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EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS
>EO V Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/

>EOMD2
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/

>EO V Skill Simulator
http://waifusims.com/EOV/skillSim.html
https://jii.moe/EkvsTrdY-.html# (Class Skills)
https://jii.moe/VyvBiy6dW.html# (Race Skills)

>EO V item and quest translation list
http://pastebin.com/c4uzKptj (Item list)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Oz2FGmL0QpE2-Qkb8zz-t_MP_WEpDo6gzlA29-wJIDw/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0 (Quest list)
http://pastebin.com/8sJhutN7 (Conditional drops)

>EO V color editor.
http://edit.s2.xrea.com/sq5/
>EO V VA list
http://pastebin.com/gM4KaYjs

>EO V Game & DLC.cia link
https://mega.nz/#F!XkJiHBIb!vzL2CLjZZVA-yAGS7UZgdA

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qt
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>>172217246
i want neneposters to leave
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>>172217442
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Shitter here

Having trouble with EO4's dragons, but I don't want to go all (insert dragon element) charms + (insert element) Runes. Is there any feasible way to actually win outside of retarded elemental resistance?
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>take out some long unused character
>half HP and 4 TP
Jesus fucking christ you were resting for like months how the hell you're still the same state as you were left in you little shit
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>>172217001
Use the scrolls you got after the mazes or just retire your current team to get fresh level 30 characters.
There are no other shortcuts.

>>172218130
Turn 1 Burst skill that negates elemental attacks.
You should have at least 1 or two safe turns on which they won't use the breath again.
Head bind them before then and just blow them up while all they can do is scratch you.

>>172218372
They were not sleeping. They were standing in the Explorer's Guild, waiting for you like a sad puppy.
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Solo Fortress anon here.

Did you know that Vanguard allows even Drive skills to outspeed the Defence command?
Logre decided to show me and spray my intestines all over the walls.
In my fourth try against him.
On turn 131.
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>>172218835
Why do you do this to your loli
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>>172219157

Suffering builds character.
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>>172219157
Until now she managed to show every boss the true power of the way of the loli.
Seems Logre is immune to that since he has a stick up his ass.
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>>172218130
you also get (resist element) food... usually next to the dragon. but really it's just aegis to beat turn 1. dance mastery / yagrushes if you want to spam it.

>>172218835
yup. learned in eo3 that falcon thrust outspeeds line guard. i hope you brought a lot of cut mists.
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>>172220851

The little lady's adventuring days are over.
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So EOV is confirmed never coming to the west then
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>>172221587
yes
cute masuraos never ever
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>>172221587
Nothing is confirmed until the company themselves say it.
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>>172218835
Yay for imperials, the nearly epitome of glass cannon. Should have picked them instead of highlander as EO2U class dlc, who the hell even cares about highlander
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>>172222074
>the nearly epitome of glass cannon
They're just missing the glass part. Fuckers are made of forged iron.
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>>172222074
shiitake master race here, Highlander is CUTE
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>>172222074
Highlander was the player class for EOU - that is the only reason they are in EO2U.
But I don't think Imperial would be such a good fit for EO2U either. Between Fafnir and Gunner they would not really stand out.

I think Imperials would work well in EO3U. Since EO3 is missing a dedicated mixed elemental attacker (outside of shitty Chasers) they would be very valuable.
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>>172222507
>implying they won't just make a faaf DLC and call it a day
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>>172222507
>that is the only reason they are in EO2U
That and they being stated to come from around High Lagaard in EOU.
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>>172223024
As stupid as that is they will probably do exactly that. But even then it's DLC and both Fafnir and Gunner could coexist. Adding Imperial would be overkill.
But now that Gunner is out Imperial can come in.

And since the main girl was a class from the next game in both Untolds I can see her being an Imperial in EO3U.
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>>172223224
>imperial from the start of the game
A man can dream
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>shit on Fafnir for being OP, breaking the game and blaming him for HP sponge bosses
>praise Imperials and try to bring them back at every turn
Sometimes I just don't understand you guys.
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>>172223329
Ronin and Hexer had to be unlocked in EO and could be chosen from the start in EOU.
Same with Beast in EO2 and EO2U.

So even if Imperial is not originally from EO3 the dream is alive and well, yes.
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>>172223493
faaf is a guy
imp can be a girl

which do you think we'll choose
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>>172223224
>designated waifu being stronger than self-insert MC
Never gonna happen.
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>>172223224
>EOU: Gunner
>EO2U: Princess
It will be a Landshark since Phalanx makes Fortress redundant.
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>>172223584
So if there were a fafnir class in classic mode would nobody have shat on them like they have with the nigga?
Makes sense to me.
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>>172223592
What if they make a class which does even more DPS while the remaining 3 members are full support
or MC is faaf who travelled far enough and the girl is Arianna who found him and reclassed into an Imperial
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>>172223592
Ricky is pretty fucking strong. With Action Boost maxed she can pump out damage like it's nobody's business.
And she doesn't have to wait for four turns every time she wants to use her burst.
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>>172223684
I love how they keep picking the blondes.

>>172223739
>imperial
>stronger-than-imperial
>in the same party
Please no, I don't want EO3U to be a broken balance mess.
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>>172224023
>I don't want EO3U to be a broken balance mess.
At least it would be a faithful remake.
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>>172224023
>first boss will have 30k HP
>last one will have 120k
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>>172224023
Blonde agenda needs to stop
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>>172224146
>Abyssal God party-wide element attacks are completely random
>killing tentacles lowers his health but makes him hit harder
>phase 2 can move twice in one turn and always uses either Nameless Wall or Mist Curtain or both at random
>Abyssal Offering every 3 turns
>Post Turn-40 assault mode now happens after turn 10
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>>172223864
And it takes her quite some time to get there. Meanwhile highlander is the one doing the killing and the protecting.

On the other hand, imperials just need to get their drives to break everything on their knee, which is what their class is designed to do.

There's just no way around it. Gunner might have a technical way to outperform highlander but by default she's under the highlander's protection, both in gameplay and aesthetics (Frederica looks and acts comparatively frail to the highlander, and being a gunner she keeps distance to the enemy contrary to him). An imperial, on the other hand, is huge with their bulky armor and pulverizing enemies with oversized mechanical swords. There's no believable way to make an imperial look weaker than MC and necessarily be under his protection, not visually and (hopefully) neither gameplay-wise.
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>>172223493
Fafnir and Imperial work pretty differently.
Their Drive skills are good but they have a cooldown (that doesn't have an entire skill tree, several skills of another class and a consumable build around negating it).
Ignition takes a while to get going and Overdrive is their only way to deal area damage whereas Fafnir can just throw out Waves to clean stuff.
Also no Accelerate.

I feel HP can be lower against a class that has good burst damage every few turns compared to constant murder mode.
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>>172224258
>protector
>gunner
>princess
>landsknecht
>fencer
It should never stop.
It will never stop.
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Is Wiglaf ship being stuck at the same place and infinitely giving out encounters while Wiglaf gets added to your party a normal occurence or my game glitched?
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>>172224602
Solution: She is his guard.
Make him a (non-Sovereign) person of high importance and let the otakus and weeabos dream about dominating women by political power instead of physical prowess.
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>>172224756
It's a glitch I hear about now the second time.
Getting into constant battles (with an additional member that doesn't even soak XP) is great to grind.
Make use of it if you want.
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>>172224820
It won't be as cute as faaf and his pet princess
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>>172224820
Hah, that works. And since the MC is mostly silent, he won't deny it when imperial goes all submissive.
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What if EO4U will have a masurao as the story girl and buffs bushi
double the bunny waifus
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>>172225075
But do you wnat them to rehash the same kind of pairing again?
Having a strong, usually stern girl get all submissive towards you and you alone has also some nice tension and cuteness factor.
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>>172226291
tsunderes a shit
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>>172226291
what if they fuck it up?
Having the Imperial be Darkness levels of masochistic, and getting off of verbal abuse
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>>172226407
>80 hours of playing as a cuck
pls no
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What composition did you choose as the best among all?
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/vote/
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>>172226308
That's not what a Tsundere is.
A Tsundere is borderline abusive to you while actually liking you.
What I'm thinking about is someone that acts professionally at most times but can not keep that up when it comes to you.
Like half the roster in any battle harem and that shit sells way better than it deserves.

>>172226407
If they fuck it up they fuck it up.
Neither Ricky's cold start towards the group nor Arianna's airhead tendencies are safe bets when it comes to writing and for many people both of them are crossing the line into cringe territory every now and then.

And Darkness is always willing to get abused she just sometimes forgets about it.
No one in Konosuba is usually strong or stern. Sometimes they try to act like it but fail miserably.
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>>172226875
Calling That Detestable Name - EO3 version
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I wish i could easily reproduce that Wiglaf bug, it's so fucking dope
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>>172227965
Easy and more importantly quick experience for days.
If you have the Holy Gift Burst skill slot it in, use it and boost your XP even further.
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>>172224258
In EOV every portrait can be blonde.
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So apparently this wiglaf bug is a positioning bug and probably is related to spawning her in a wrong place since fighting a dream eater doesn't break it but fighting an icy pincer (a mob spawning in the other area she may have an event) ends the event as expected. At least it seems to persist through saving since i just reloaded the save for reasons and she's still there
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>>172232084
Thicc bunny girl, won't you come over to the west? We have tasty carrots here.
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EOV Artbook when?
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How should EO3U fix Buccaneers? Their main gimmick (which is chases) is hot garbage and all of their skills save for one are incredibly mediocre. I mean for the most part assuming you don't invest in their useless chases you're gonna have a relatively weak class that can only debuff with Eagle Eye, and has access to two very mediocre Rapier/Gun skills until you inevitably rest them so they can spend the rest of the game spamming Pincushion.
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>>172235061
Since I would like Shogun to have a class skill that is more fitting than "How about... two swords!?" Buccaneer should get their dual wield.
Rapier and Pistol is how I imagine a pirate in the first place.
Since pirates were always fighting on ships (and because they were poor) they got rid of armor in favor for footing so instead of Chasers they can get skill that have them switch lines adn increase their evasion (without making them dodge tanks - just for their own good). This way they can make use of both the Rapier and the Gun in different ways.
Focus on multi-hit attacks and you have a speedy class that is about raw damage and evasion instead of ailments like Ninja/Nightseeker.

EO2U Survivalist got some heafty rework and picked up ailments and I feel Buccaneer can pick up new tricks and more damage skills in the same way.
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>>172235792
>Rapier and Pistol is how I imagine a pirate in the first place.
Yeah me too, but wait how about the Buccaneer being able to switch his gun and rapier out in battle instead? Not only would it be a fun interesting playstyle but it would also have some really neat subclass options.
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>>172218835
Defending doesn't have priority, but Vanguard does. The games don't give enemies access to priority often, thankfully.
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>>172235964
It might make for interesting Gameplay but I can not see them doing it.
That would need completely new interface elements for one old class in a remake. Unless you don't mean they should add a fifth slot for their second weapon in which case it's mechanically not different from Bushi-style dual wielding.
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>>172236234
They're able to switch with a weapon they can equip out of your weapon inventory. Make Rapiers and Guns play completely differently so they compliment each other's strengths and weaknesses.
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>>172235061
There are few classes with defined niches in EO3, which imo is one the main reason that it is one of the worse balanced games in the franchise.
Bucc's niche should be consistant damage from front or back line. I have never felt that their chase skill fit with their pirate theme. But I do like their "fight in groups" flavor text.
While typing this, this anon >>172235792
posted his idea, which I think would really work to fix these problems. Have their mastery skill be dual wielding, but only with a gun and rapier (ie, not 2 guns, not 2 rapiers), additional skill points raise damage dealt with each. Have rapier be more about debilitating, and the gun about finishing off; so they'd play like sword Dark hunters. Your turns would go something like:
(Start in front line) Blinding stab
(New skill that attacks, then changes line and changes primary weapon)
Blind shot (or similar)

This'd also add a class focused on ailments aside from Wilding, which is only a good thing.
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>>172237071
>This'd also add a class focused on ailments aside from Wilding, which is only a good thing.

Me too.
Wildling had access to a lot of ailments and all binds but their targeting was strange. Sometimes their beasts could target all, sometimes only a single enemy.
I would let them keep them at mostly being single targeted since they also get beasts (in the summoning line) while the new class has more linewide or piercing effects but a more limited selection of ailments.

I would also have them take advantage of binds but we had "deal more damage against enemy with bind/ailment" in Dark Hunter and Nightseeker so it may get a bit samey using it again.
Instead I'm thinking something like a skill that is really good at binding the enemy's legs and all their other infliction skills have a higher chance if the enemy is leg bound.
Add in a way to reset accumulated resistances early like Arcanist in EOIV could and you have a different kind of ailment/bind user.
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>>172235792
>EO2U Survivalist got some heafty rework
and still was shit outside of very specialised stuff
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>>172239164
But it at least had some place in the roster and could offer something valuable depending on your team.

Compare that to EO2's "What can I even do?" Survivalist or EOU's wanna-be Healer Survivalist.
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>>172240225
I wanted to say something about class names not being capitalized but that bitch doesn't deserve to be capitalized.
Mineralogy, really? She's a bit early - Farmer is only in EMD2.
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>>172240225
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>>172240225
Brown girls are cute!
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>>172240591
>Takusans of 'em!
Fucking kek
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>>172241543
How does this party even work? Does the Dancer use Guard Tango so Nightseeker and/or Medic are not constantly dying?

That Runemaster deserved to die for being neither Fluffmaster nor Comfymaster.
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So if Fafnir Knight plays off EO2's main gimmick of Force Boost, would the MC of EO3U play off subclassing?
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>>172244297
Force Boost got invented for EO2U and for Fafnir.
EO2 has essentially only Force Breaks back then simply called Force.
A similar mechanic in EO3 would be Limits but I really hope we don't get Limit Boosts...
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>>172244297
onion knight
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>>172244415
That's supposed to be a floating Highlander doll, right?
Because the stain makes it look like Highlander got killed and is lying on the ground not very happy with himself.
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>>172244297
A mysterious young man appears who has the strange ability to master the skills of any class?
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>>172244982
>ultimate support and his imperial waifu
FUND IT
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What if the main girl of 3 Untold is the silent MC?
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>>172244982
Sounds like Persona MC. Everyone is bound to one way of fighting - except you, you can do anything, lol.

>>172246178
No self insert potential, won't work for a franchise with such a huge amount of cute girls.
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Would EOU1's party and EOU2's story parties be friends?
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etrian tiddies
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lagaardian titties
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>>172246957
I hope both parties are in EO2U and I also hope Ricky hates Arianna's guts so they end up supporting different factions.
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>>172246957
No
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>>172246957
Half of them already belong to the same place. And Arianna doesn't have it in herself to hate anyone.
The EOU party can easily buy Chloe with Rosa's ice cream or whatever. It all hinges on Frederica.
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>>172247471
why is ricky so fucking mean
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>>172247117
>reverse search image
>cartoon network
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>>172247735
happens every time i reverse search anime titties too.
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>>172247614
Maybe you'll be mean if you came from the XXI centuary and you wake up as the world regressed to middle age.

She could be a world breaker with her knowledge.
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>>172247117
Regina is so delicious.
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>>172247117
You have the sauce by chance?
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>>172241082
I the Japanese version she throws in random English like that so yeah
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Is Imperial or Bushi a better subclass for Nightseeker in EO4?
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>>172249358
I guess that makes sense
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>>172249701
Bushi is the best damage subclass without competition. It's especially good for physicals but even Runemaster can pick them and make use of Blood Surge.
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Every fucking day. Every single fucking day when i play EO2U this little faggot just sits there and gives me this stupid look on her face
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>>172250756
Imagine how the bosses must feel when she negates their big elemental burst with a flick of her shield.
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>>172249701
For sheer damage output, yes. I like Arcanist more for the safer ailment stacking, though.
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8 more days.
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>>172251125
54 days until ultimate desperation
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>>172249701
bushi is all around better but I played nightseeker + imperial with maxed blade flurry and follow trance and that shit is fun as fuck

watching endgame bosses and F.O.E.s get obliterated by numerous drives in one turn from one character is so satisfying
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Is this the mascot of EO now?
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>>172254472
>smoking
No wonder Fang is such a shit-tier hag.
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>>172254472
No smoking for Fang.
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>Everyone says that EO IV on normal is easiest of all games
>I find it harder than II which I find harder than III which I find harder than I

Could anybody explain?
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>>172254885
>4
>harder than 2
Is this bait
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>>172254765
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>>172254885
I can only assume you know exactly what you are doing in EOII since the game can be broken in half and trivialized rather easily.
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>>172254796
>>172254818
It's actually just a prop, she's trying to look cool like the big kids at the mall
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>>172255004

Funny enough, in terms of final (not post-game) bosses, I would say it was IV>I>III>II for me.

I tend to play defensive, so II was really not suited for me, as it was designed about going all out.
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>>172254885
it's mostly oldfags being oldfags who suck at video games and want to think about the "good old days" when they sucked even harder.

but to give a nonmeme answer: the series got better at actually keep normal battle difficulty consistent. in the first three games, you could autobattle your way through the first 3 stratums and most of the 4th with a shitty party. if you actually look at how people describe "hard" difficulty in the old games, they describe it in terms of memorable unfair specific moments or bosses and never ever talk about just the random encounters. starting with 4 and going on into untold randoms actually started to get somewhat hard on higher difficulty modes, and bosses had shitty mechanics taken away from them that would have made them difficult
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>>172217006
wait wtf are those characters?
is there a new EO?
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>>172255450
yeah, eo6 was announced yesterday
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>>172254885
There is no way EOIV is harder than EO2.
You can beat EOIV with almost any part composition, EO2 is less balanced around that and you need to grind for years to get a character up to level 99
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>>172255502
but we don't even have 5 yet? wtf atlus let me play your game
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>>172255450
>>172255502
Dont let that anon troll you - it's obviously EO3U.
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>>172255734
so did 5 get a release date? cba bricking my 3ds
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>>172255631

Thats how I felt it, sorry. Again, I talk about normal game, not post-game sections and normal difficulty mode for IV, not casual.

Not to mention that in II I defeated last boss on first try with party that was not really "optimal" (Protector, Ronin, Dark Hunter, Medic, Gunner), while in IV I had to replace party members to go from defensive to more offensive approach (namely, replaced Medic with Arcanist and Nightseeker with Imperial, while keeping Fort, RM and Lands), after I couldnt beat the boss in three tries. Then it took me two more.

I just voiced that dissonance that I found IV to be harder in final fight than previous games. Some people for example consider Progenitor from III to be hard, while I blocked his offensive options with prper setup and it was cakewalk then.
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>>172255879
Distributed by invites only, you must post bunny waifus for at least 2 weeks to get one
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>>172255879
EOV is coming to the west 5/20
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>>172255879

>cba bricking my 3ds

Wut?
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>>172256403
>needing more than 1 try to beat heavenbringer
fucking how, imperial rapes his shit harder than a tentacle monster in a typical loli doijin
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>>172246957
>Chloe was supposed to have a crush on Arthur, but it got replaced with the fsteak obsession.
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>>172256403
EOIV rewards heavily offensive play so I can see someone struggle if you take the more defensive root - especially if you rely on ailments without an Archanist.
Accumulated resistances don't run out on their own in EOIV, only Releasal Spell can make enemies vulnerable against ailments and binds again.
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>>172256792

Two tries after I added Imp. First one missed too often.
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>>172256571
what kind

>>172256616
nice, but there aren't 20 months in a year tho
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>>172257485
I thought you were american so I tried to be understanding
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>>172257610
thanks, aprici8ed
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>>172255631
>and you need to grind for years to get a character up to level 99
>implying you need to grind that high
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>>172256904
But Chloe doesn't even know Arthur.
Fafnir and Flavio are from the Midgard Library, Chloe is a random autism loli.
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>>172258423
>But Chloe doesn't even know Arthur.
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Who would win in a fight Primeval or Abyssal God?
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>>172255450
To not let you run around with false information:
The OP is from Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2. It was announced yesterday together with a Radiant Historia and a Strange Journey remake.
It was a Japanese stream so no info about a localisation of EOV.

20th of May is the stream for the 10th anniversary of EO. Until then the entire franchise is still in limbo.
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>>172258519
>Fabulous hair Bertrand
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>>172258740
You should've let him dream longer
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Are there any EO games that are beatable without investing a single skill point?
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>>172258519
I take it back partially.
That pretty obviously isn't Chloe. Just a War Magus with glasses and pigtails.
Calling her Chloe is like saying "Arianna was supposed to be a Trauma Center cameo" just because it is mentioned in the text.

But interesting nontheless.
Still I prefer our Chloe. I don't think I could stand if such an important member of my party was stupid enough to have a crush on Arthur of all people...
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>>172259103
Does qr code grimoire-only EO2U count?
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>>172259392
No grimoires either.
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>>172259103
EOMD
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>>172259103
I don't think you could carry enough items to sustain you throughout a battle with just normal attacks against any 5th Stratum boss even with a full 70R70 party.
Without defensive skills they just deal too much damage and Stonards and Mists only works for 4 turns (including the one you used it on).
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>>172259103
picnig EOU2 maybe, you'll still have force break
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>>172260661
I'm fairly certain you can get through all of picnic with just auto battle
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>>172261420
Ronin/Ronin/Ronin
Gunner/Gunner

Since enemies deal no damage anyways you can go for maximum hurt.
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>>172258527
I think Abyssal God.
It has counter moves and can use its heal freely instead of only when changing phases.
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What happens if two DOE at once reach the empty fort, do both get sent off or it's auto failure?
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So strange journey is basically an EO game but all the classes are scattered around as random enjounters? And those classes all have diferent stats. And you can't build a team you want without first talking to those classes and giving them what they want like a dating sime? Then you fuse them?
That sounds so odd.
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>>172264065
Have you never played a Pokemon game or something jesus fuck it's not a hard concept to grasp.
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>>172264065
Oh and the cant invest in the skills you want on what character unless you give your life up to RNG decendance.
Why would anyone play this game?
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>>172264065

Give me a Life Stone.
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>>172264065
>demon dick sucking simulator
what did you expect
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>>172264431
Do I have shoulders?
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>>172265526

Yes, Momunofu, you have shoulders.
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>>172266237
YoU'LL pAY fOr ThAAAAAt!
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>>172265386
That looks not comfy enough for Comfymaster.
She wears only wide, warm sweatpants.
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>>172264065
The original was Shin Megami Tensei slapped onto the EO engine (literally).
I don't know if the remake will be the same but I am pretty sure the demon thing will not change to anything more EO like.

It's still very much likely EO developers are used for the Strange Journey remake and thus unable to work on EO6 or EO3U.
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>>172264065
We and the SMT general need to unite against Personafags for Atlus pandering to them

We can't fight it out amongst ourselves
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>>172266668
>It's still very much likely EO developers are used for the Strange Journey remake and thus unable to work on EO6 or EO3U.
Oh God please no.
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>>172266668
Are we getting 3D demon models on the 3ds?
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>>172266668
I have no clue how things are handled at Atlus, but back in the EO1 days the EO team was only 6 people, if you look at the any EO on the DS, Lancarse was codeveloper, and they also worked on SJ. But starting from 4, they're no longer credited
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>>172268352
Oh so that means the Untold and original teams are completely different for the most part?
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>not connected to main path lond dead end branches
what fucking asshole thought this is a fun idea
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>>172268620
Komori is the director of EO2,3, 5, and untolds. While he worked on the Untolds they got Kaneda on 4 and PQ, so I'm guessing the team is a lot bigger now
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>>172266864

Himukai belongs to us now. :^)
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>>172270568
Himukai actually sold his soul to FE: Heroes and Final Fantasy.
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>>172270568
>wasting a good artist on trash series
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>>172271001

I require more Himukai Manakete.
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What happens if you retire story characters? Would they retain their unique sprite or they will be forced to take generic as well?
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>>172271573
You can't retire story characters.

Are you talking about EOIV characters? They will be forced to take generic sprites.
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>>172271892
>They will be forced to take generic sprites.
now that's fucking disappointing
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>>172271892
>tfw wanted to use Wufan but she can't get retire bonuses
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Should i finish 7th Dragon VFD, which i think I'm almost at the end of, or should i drop it in favour of restarting EOU2 even though i think grimoures are stuipd?
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etrian pusy
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>>172272576
>VFD
you shouldn't have played it in a first place
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Is eov inside
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>>172273080
No, only disappointment
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>>172273080
Didn't know McCree was a Persona fan
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>>172272760
why is vfd bad?

>>172272576
>grimoires
just don't use them my dude

I barely pay attention to them unless I get a good one
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>>172273657
Because they don't even try actually making it good for the third game already?
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>Untold 3
>Eddie: Forges
>Sister: Grimoires
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Remove trees
Remove deer
Remove hat from runemaster
Remove blondes
Remove lack of EOV in the west
Remove boss puzzles
Remove dragons
Remove Himukai from jobs which don't involve working on EO
Remove people bullying Arianna
Remove nene and voreposter
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>>172275542
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>>172280351
Atlus is at least smart enough to keep these hideous designs out of the EMD games
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>>172280696
Remove yourself
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>>172280696
I'm not even a big fan of the zodiac portraits and I even don't see the point of this bullying against the zodiac grills.
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>>172280923
all the zodiacs are strange tube people
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>>172281048

There is nothing wrong with tubes.
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Jesus christ Lost Shinjuku is amazing
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>>172285129
no it isn't

stop enjoying games
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>>172285905
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>>172286303

Will Atlus ever be able to make a character more bullyable than Arianna?
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>>172288641

Give it back.
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>>172286585
maybe if she had a child with flavio, who is equally bullyable
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>>172289547

Rev up that NTR
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>>172290423
Lesbian sex is so boring.
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Anyone got a list of all the new atlus games coming?
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>>172217214
Jappari Odyssey when?
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>>172247117
dat cloe dou
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>>172292989
MYPL OT
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>>172292989

KANEKO COME BACK

WE NEED YOU
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>>172293892
smt 1 and 2 remake wen
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>>172294109

soon
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>>172297115
Me on the left
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I'm really, really hoping that now that P5 is done, the translation team is now working on EOV.

Please...
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>>172297510
now they're working on EMD2 for a concurrent release, silly.
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>>172297510
Give up
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>>172297582
>>172297603
If Atlus is doing this I'll learn Japanese, they can't keep getting away with this
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>still no EMD2 fan art
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>>172301852
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>>172302738
twitter a shit
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>>172285129
It is. Probably the best 5th Stratum available in the west.
And that plot twist in the original. Unfortunately the entirety of Gladsheim spoils that in EOU.
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>>172297510
Hahahahaha
HaHaHaHaHa
never ever
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>>172277960
Now you have to post that great lynx picture separately
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>>172307695
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>>172277960
Outstanding work, anon.
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Logre has fallen to the solo Fortress.
It took 183 turns and consisted of much Defending, Regen Waltzing and normal attacking.
I simply saved 3 Burst gauges for Aegis Shield on the turn of his Vanguard boosted Drive and used my TP to heal after some of his normal Drives with Holy Smite.
His boosted Drive missed so playing super careful for 140 turns was kind of unneccessary. But since I could not be sure he would wiff it was the right thing to do.

I don't think this strategy will work against the Imperial Prince so I probably will need to get some proper resistance equipment then.
Until now I have gotten away with just using one of Kirjonen's Icons.
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>>172310042

You're gonna do Warped Savior without chemicals, right?
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>>172310457
B3F of Hall of Darkness is pretty irritating so it's probably easier and faster to just run through and smash that wannabe Yggdrasil core to pieces.
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>>172304862
The twist was so great too.
I remember when I discovered it in EO I. Really was mindblowing and well done.
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I never invest in the skills that are "physical attack to one unit"
Are those any good?
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>>172312575
What do you mean? You don't invest in single target physical skills?
Those early in a skill tree are usually not worth it but those later down the line are usually stronger than area based skills.
And since your hardest fights often are against a single boss or FOE not being an area attack is not a big problem.
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>>172312739
As in I always go for attack skills that have elemental, ailment or binding properties.
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>>172313414
We make funny jokes here at /Etrian/
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>>172312851
Depends on the class. I some cases going for pure physical damage is worth it.
War Magus' Ailing Slash and Dark Hunter's Ecstasy are among the strongest skills in EO2U.
EOU Ronin is better off going for physical skills for boss fights as well.

It's all a question of how high the multipliers are and those usually get reduced for added effects.

Which classes and games are you thinking of in particular?
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>>172313414
Implying EMD2 will even make it over here and Atlus has not completely given up on anything Etrian related in the west.
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>>172313868
They will bring it just to spite us.
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>>172314069
That would really hurt
like a lot
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>>172314069
Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2
Japan release:
31th of August 2017
NA and EU release:
14th of September 2017

Meanwhile EOV and EO3U never make it over to the west.
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>>172314705
11 of September 2017
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7 days.
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>>172313553
What else can we do but post spicy memes
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>>172314069
This is hilarious, the guy must be crying at a corner right now.
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EO VN when?
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>>172315083

After the isekai anime.
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>>172314813
53 days until we can finally give up.
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>>172315083
Very Never
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>>172315196
Isnt that kinda EOU? If you look at it from Ricky's perspective
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Explain me the meme about princess and great lynx? I never played 3
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>>172315556
great lynx is a random encounter monster on the first floor that can easily 1HKO your party for the first five levels or so
new parties start exploring the first floor like any other EO, only to run into a great lynx and get fucked up
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>>172315735
But why princess of all people
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>>172315782
Because she's cute and it's always funny seeing cute things die
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>>172316032
>it's always funny seeing cute things die
I want vorefag to leave
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>>172315782
Game's mascot.
You also see zodiac often in that situation, because she's so bulliable.
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>>172316901
>>
o shit post more
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>>172316984
Why is meme cat doin this to a little girl
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>>172317427

Simply because it can.
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>>172318005

I want to pamper Arianna.
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Remember that guy
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I want to take off her hat
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>>172320646
So you can pat her head directly?
Nice thinking. You're promoted.
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>can install some literal magic to fly through tornadoes
>cannot install a fucking cannon
>cannot even use foodapult to shoot something like rocks or whatever
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>>172321528
>fly above trees no problem
>kangaroos still reach me
Are they the size of mountains or something?
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>>172321876

WARNING: Objects in Atlus games are larger than they appear.
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>>172321260
But don't forget to ask beforehand.
It is impotant that cute girls are always happy with what you do to them.
Sullying the headpat by making her uncomfortable is unforgivable.
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>>172323875
We will force them to be happy whether they want it or not
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I've seen many different names for these two, and I got confused.
Left is Lolimaster and right is Sleepymaster, obviously
But the part I'm confused about is Comfy-, and Fluffy-, since they both fill the requirements for those
Which one is fluffier or comfier?
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>>172324905
Left is fluffy but her wide eyes and disapproving mouth make her not very comfy unless rectified through headpats.
Right is not as fluffy but she is clearly very comfy about every situation she is in.
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>>172324905
jikomaster
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>>172325303
Did loli Fortress get a growth spurt or why is she so tall? Even when trying to hide Bobshark should not be smaller than her.
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>>172325546
She's a big slut
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Do you think loli fortress would be mad if you hold her gently in front of you like a shield
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>>172326663
You hold a shield by bolting straps to its back for your arm. I don't think loli Fortress would like that.
But it could look funny of you did it to her armor.
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>>172325136
How is this for comfy?
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>>172329040
Way more comfy. The best thing about EMD.
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>>172325136
Just look at them, both of them are fluffy and comfy!
>>172329040
>>172329184
So the question stands..
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it was a japan release area anyways because they get it new why would they announce eo5 in the west i mean later yeah it will happen just because there no twitter and atlus usa is busy and it will some soon and for please jp stream is for jp people and not us so logically they would be for new game show and shows that etrian isnt dead so yeah good thing might pay for.. 5 in the west and.. a... and
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>>172330086
Stop being drunk
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>>172330086
yea man, h-haha, eov is def coming out later, i mean the anniversary stream in may and everything, r-right haha
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>eo4 events self-reset a few days after
rip my EZ grinding spot
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>>172330086
It's ok anon. No one expected anything for the western market out of that stream.
That no localisation was announced at that event doesn't mean it will never happen.
That there was no talk about it before this event however does.
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>>172332165
remove trees
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>>172332559
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slutmaster
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>>172330326
reprint of the DS titles as a bundle
two new Etrian mobage
Etrian Pachinko machine
Etrian Fire Emblem
Persona Q 2
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I tried giving EMD a chance again.
Its such a shitty game holy shit I can't believe i blew money on this.
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>>172334917
don't forget etrian 2020
>>172336867
it's pretty okay, better than the pokemon ones at least but still worse than actual shiren games
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What is the best place to grind levels in 4 from 50 to 70? Dragons are out of the question
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>>172337273
casual mode dragons
casual mode post-game bird
6th maze FOEs

If you want to grind bosses or FOEs always make a new lvl1 character who's only purpose is to sleep at the inn for one (FOE) or two (boss) weeks.
It's cheaper this way and post-game equipment is expensive.
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>>172337273
>Dragons are out of the question
The first time you fight a dragon (quest) you'll go with a guest member.

If you have the right shields and runemaster's elemental shields, you can do it at level 50
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>>172337712
>Adventurer's guild
>Notice board:
>Guild member wanted! LVL 1 only
>''Ah, neat, finally! So what do I do?''
>-''You sleep at the inn. We'll cover for you''
>''Huh?''
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>>172334917
>Etrian Fire Emblem
I would play that. Even if it was about the entertainment industry.
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Post stick
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>>172340027
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>>172340027
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We have a new record!
Cradle Guardian managed to stand up against the solo Fortress for 249 turns.
I... kind of forgot to put an elemental forge on my weapon - so I hit him for 8 to 18 damage in his elemental forms.
And I was super TP starved since he wasted a lot of turns changing his forms and trying to paralyze or head bind (lol) me even after I was completely immune to these effects.

But really, he was a pushover and couldn't do anything against me. Even his TEC attack barely broke 200 damage and that only when I was head bound.

I'm now level 67 so I'm not even at max level before dragons... Once I hit 70 I will retire my Fortress. After Logre I am pretty sure I will need the stats for the Imperial Prince.
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>>172342795
I call bullshit until you post pics
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>>172343151
Totally in your right to do so.
But I'm not gonna hack my system just to take screenshots, sorry.
Btw. If you don't recruit Logre to your Guild he waits in the Echoing Library. Not that that's surprising and I'm not interested in looking for his exact position but it was the first time I ever not allowed him in.
It would be funnier if he would wait in the Old Forest Mine.
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>>172340027
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>>172346023
Those are some big tits for such a malnourished looking body.
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>>172340027
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>>172334917
Etrian Odyssey: The Animation
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>>172334917
>Etrian mobage
Ingame days are now real days
You can buy boosters to pass them faster with real money
Money tokens exist as well, mid to late game equip costs a week worth of grind if you don't buy these, same for exp
Super casual paywall difficulty, even easier than 2U picnic
Dungeon unlocks
Character portrait unlocks, only two portraits per class else
No actual games released anymore ever
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>>172349542
k
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>>172351685
delet this
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>>172351685
What the fuck is this
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>>172351685
Stop
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>>172351685
i want it
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Ricky loves dicky
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Does entering the 5th Stratum part of Golden Lair cause the pile of scales on B3F to respawn immediatly?
I went and destroyed it beforehand but everything was thawed up again. And I did not take a week to do it.
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>>172354867
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Do you think Raquna and vessels would like each other a lot
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>>172358036
Their thin little bodies can't take the amount of alcohol
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>>172358036
Just because she likes to drink doesn't mean she likes straws.
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>>172358534
But won't a fucking leaf and sticks be a perfect fit?
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>>172358735
She'll just use the sticks to play hockey
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>>172358845
And to club seals
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I'm playing EO2U. Any tips to defeat Expert Juggernaut? He deals way too much damage to my team and I can only hex him enough before he decides to destroy me.

My team is HiP/GSoH.
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>>172359767
Use your Sovereign or the Unihorn item to remove all buffs on your team the turn after he uses Eradicate.
He hates it if you have any buffs and goes berserk on that turn if any are left when he is able to take his action.
The buff he puts on you counts as well. But don't debuff it too quickly since you need the damage increase.
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>>172360052
So White Noble? Then I guess I'll have to rest my characters again. Thanks.
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>>172360978
You are welcome.

But packing some Unihorn should also do the trick - and it removes all buffs and debuffs whereas White Noble affects only one each.
So you could use Sovereign buffs in between the purging without worrying about them running out in time.
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>>172359767
if he takes elemental damage he boosts his defense via an auto-buff. so i'd probably not do this unless you have a free turn to re-debuff him each time. dunno if Hi + G can do enough damage without some grinding; you could always kill salamander for the ultimate gun. or reclass sov to T. or H to A. hexer isn't super useful (at this point) without a D or WM.
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>>172360978
No, use Clearance. If you don't want to rest your character, you can always use the Grimoire the game gives you before the fight.
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So when you New Game+ in Untold does it save guild card data? I was a bit sloppy with farming guild cards with QR scan and I hope that data doesn't transfer over.
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>>172361441
>kill postgame stuff to kill monster 10 levels below it
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>>172361354
Ok, I'm confused here. Everything was going fine, he uses Eradicate, removes all my buffs then AOE attacks me next turn and kills everyone except my Protector. So either I didn't understand how this works or I shoukd debuff during the Eradicate turn.
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>>172362347
You have to remove your buffs before he does it with eradicate.
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>>172318716
it's over le le millenom girl bois
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>>172362347
>removes all my buffs
Did he remove your buffs or did he do it himself?
He uses Eradicate to telegraph his big attack and on the next turn Violent Cry if you have any buffs left when he can act.
On the turn after Violent Cry he uses King Rush and kills everyone.

If you remove your buffs before he can use Violent Cry he will use something else and King's Rush will not come out.
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>>172362523
Yeah, he'd still AOE kill me. I somehow managed to revive everyone and beat him with only Hi and P alive. Way too clutch.

What an asshole.
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>>172363596
That was probably the reason. I somehow managed to kept him binded and confused as much as I could so when he used King Rush he didn't kill me after I revived my team. And just at the very end I noticed that attack uses his legs so I barely survived the fight. Glad is over, this was seriously one bullshit fight.
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>>172363596
And even then, when his HP falls low (or repeats his pattern several times) there's a chance he'll use King's Rush out of order. Or at least that's what he did with me.
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>>172363609
Did he use King's Rush right after Eradicate without Violent Cry?
It sounds like he was almost dead at that point - was it a pretty high turn number? Some bosses like to break pattern when the fight goes on too long so that might be it.

Congrats on your victory anyways. Even if you know his gimmick Juggernaut is not easy to kill.
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>>172363941
>Glad is over, this was seriously one bullshit fight.
Be ready to fight him again for a quest later. Try to fight it at full health the next one
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>>172364307
>Be ready to fight him again for a quest later.
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>>172363941
>>172364307

That's post-game stuff though.
You can finish the "story" (as much as classic mode has one) just fine without ever seeing Juggernaut again.
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>>172363941
>this was seriously one bullshit fight.
Oh boy bet you'll love overlord 2 of gear check
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>>172365124
Overlord wasn't as bad in my opinion. Juggernaut was much more bullshit.
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>>172365124
With a Protector especially Overlord is not that bad.
Looking at the team both Highlander and Gunner are good at single target damage. Sovereign can help with Link Order II.
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>>172365571
>looks at a star
>enemy erupts in flames
Zodiacs, not even once.
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>Chimera in Untold 2 has more HP than Overlord's phase 2 in the original game
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>>172366319
The line of thinking "faaf is OP way later in the game, let's give everything pastgame boss tier HP" was a mistake
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>>172366319
Can already have 1k hits by the 2nd statum when that endgame damage in the original
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Does the faaf in classic still use the story portrait or it actually has generics?
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>>172367191
Faaf is only the brown guy iirc
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Innkeeps are fucking scary
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>>172367191
New Game+ from story and option to take characters over is the only way to get Fafnir in classic.
All five characters stay the same and you can neither retire nor dismiss them. (There is training which is like retiring without making a new character.)

Fafnir only has one portrait, there are no generic Fafnirs (for the player). And all story characters also stay fully voiced in the labyrinth which can be a bit strange if you pit four mute classic characters and Fafnir.
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>>172367852
Does the name stays as well or you can rename faaf?
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>>172368081
Fafnir can only be named at the start of story mode.
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>>172367848
>The secret ninjutsu of being nakadashi'd inside
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>>172368326
>teleports behind you
>stores all your items and money
>saves your game
>gives you lunch
pssssh nothing personnel guest
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>>172368562
But I wish it was very, very personnel.
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>>172367852
>there are no generic Fafnirs
>(for the player)
I'm still mad. Why take faf away from classic mode because muh story reasons but then go and make a thousand fafnir grimoire traders?
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Are there actually people who pick trapshark over bandana
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>>172368562
>gives you lunch
I hope they allow you to turn item off in EMD2
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>>172369081
What, you don't want to use Kasumi's Lunch on [party member name]?
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>>172369050
There are people who pick the completely bland and boring slef-insert male protagonist.
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>>172369050
I never even once picked Bandanashark.
Both Bobshark and trap are way cuter.
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>>172369286
Shit taste. Good thing EMD didn't care.
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>>172369286
>Both Bobshark and trap are way cuter.
Objectively wrong.
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>>172369286
awful
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>>172369286
i didn't know it was possible to be this wrong
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>>172369286
My nigga
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>>172369462
>>172369570
>>172369976
>>172370332
I'm glad there are sensible people still around
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delet
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>>172369273
I picked him because the girls are overrated and the other guy was a trap, so I was left with no other choice. I didn't self insert, mostly because he was plain.
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>>172371120
Bandana is great, but this is still OTP, right guys?
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>>172371520
Slutress is everyone's girl
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>>172371520
The only OTP is flatress x my cock
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>>172371520
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>>172371968
sauce
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>>172372129
It was a dozen threads ago, but I actually bought this from a japanese website and uploaded it to mega
>https://mega.nz/#!z89UmSRR!6L2M_WAmyDrL3u-9zlwzQ1sfNC7F2BajsMH_gt3n5GA
I also just started putting them up in sankakuchannel
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>>172372006
DELET THIS
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I told you to remove hat but you never listened
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>>172217006
I really hope they make Buccaneer and Monk feel better in EMD2 than their EO3 incarnations.
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>>172372994
I hope they make a EO3U period.
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>>172372994
>Monks are once again healsluts and can barely punch anything.
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>>172373160
Why does it matter if it will never come to the west anyway
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>>172373235
They learned their lesson I think. Look at how they fixed War Magus.
>>172373286
Maybe one day I'll learn moon in that case who knows.
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>>172373235
>Breakfire First attacks random panels
>Never hits anything
Darkness Fist could finally be useful for crowd control at least with how characters in roguelikes autoheal while traversing the dungeon. Counters might also be useful in chokepoints.
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>>172373412
>learning a useless language for porn comics and videogames
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>>172373671
Either way my point is I'll worry about that shit in due time.
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>>172373671
Well, it's not like I enjoy anything else.
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>>172373630
I just hope the counter is better than Ninpo: Caltrops. And the return for leveling up skills in general isn't as awful as it was in the first game.
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>>172373671
Why not?
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>Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2
FUCKING WHY, THE FIRST ONE WAS SHIT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172375807
Because your tears are delicious
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>>172375807

Because sold 90% of its shipment in Japan.
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>>172375807
>still no EOV localization
>EMD2 announced
>PQ2 announced
>few months later
>EMD2 NA announced
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>>172375807
Because fuck you and everything you want.
Enjoy your EMD2 translated within a month.
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>>172376183
Fucking Malady Dungeon fans ruining everything.
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>>172376797
remove nene from the premises
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>>172376797
Nene a shit
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Killer rabbits when
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>>172379859
Pff, what could a tiny rabbit do?
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>>172380034
>she'll never nibble your bum
why live
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>>172315083

If no Switch version is hinted, we may still have a chance. Otherwise the 3DS is almost dead by now, we'd have gotten at least some info on the localization by now if it were to happen.
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>>172380736
Nintendo announced that they killed the Wii U but not the 3ds.

I doubt the switch will replace the 3ds, it's not a pocket console
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3ds needs to die desu
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>>172381279
fuck the switch
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>>172381187
It will, they're just milking the platform while they can. They clearly can't support two platforms anymore, that's why they made the Switch a handheld with a HDMI port.
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when is her game coming
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>>172381602
NEVER EVER ;_;
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>>172381571
I doubt they will, I think we have more chances to see a 3ds 2 or any other portable.

The fact that you can take the switch outside, doesn't make it a portable console
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>>172381602
Wait until May 20.
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>>172381987
No reason to make a portable when switch is already a glorified portable, hell it even runs a modified 3ds firmware or at least uses the same base. We all know switch is just testing the waters and once it or some other variation takes off 3ds will instantly die out.
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>>172381987
It kind of does, actually. It isn't even that bulky, sure it won't fit in most pockets (not many portables do) but it can be carried pretty much elsewhere.

Anyway, the only reason they said 3DS wasn't going to be replaced by Switch is because 3DS is still very healthy. Saying it would be replaced would kill 3DS's momentum, and if after that Switch had failed there goes the neighborhood.

From what Iwata said before he died, the whole point of NX was to unify their development environments so they don't have to divide their resources between handheld games and console games. If anything it would make sense to have another handheld with a similar architecture to Switch, but as it stands keeping both Switch and 3DS alive defeats the point of Switch.

Just wait for it, in a year's time the lineup for 3DS will be even more barren except for a couple Atlus games, ironically.
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ded
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playing through EOU expert right now, on the 3rd stratum

can someone tell me when grimoires actually start to become useful? I've barely used them since my classes' skills are generally more useful 90% of the time. the only thing grimoire-related I've used is a hurricane punch grimoire i got from Cernunnos and that hexer grimoire you get in the 2nd stratum. just what's the point
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>>172397648
It's to allow a modicum of subclass-style customization.

EO2U does it much better.
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Why is Atlus holding votes for a best song when they could be holding votes for best girl?
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>>172398197
who is best girl?
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>>172398197
They're afraid of Ricky getting last place.
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>>172398197
Because the winner would be obvious
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>>172398197

Because she's already in the game.
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>>172393539
I miss teach. No one ever posts her anymore
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>>172398451
She's old as fuck
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>>172398576

Aging like wine.
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>>172398451
She tries her best day by day.
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>>172398451
Atlus better bring back the teach puppet for EMD 2
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>>172400854
im going to marry this old hag
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>>172400854
>her face when you propose to her, and she says yes because she knows the biological clock is ticking
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EUMD when?
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Is it time for teach posting again?
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Stop posting Teach
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>>172404164
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>>172397648
Grimoires start becoming useful on New Game+ or if you change your party for another reason.
Aside from a select few it really doesn't help your party that much to get skill you already have.
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>>172404236
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>>172408309
I want to headpat her.
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>>172372402
Many thanks, anon.
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>fight elemental monster
>put on their element resist accessory
>win
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>>172411517
And that's why the dragons usually have either physical moves or some other "fuck you" mechanic like the Blizzard King's mirror shield or the Storm Emperor's fit of autism if you have too many buffs.
It's trying to keep fights interesting even though you are essentially fighting three times the same enemy in different flavors.
It doesn't manage to keep the fights interesting.
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>etrian dakimakuras
I need them.
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>15 classes

So they're fucked when it comes to the equipment initials, right?
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>>172416708
That's why it won't get localized.
Or maybe they'll learn to ditch initials in favor of icons like grimoire stones.

Now seriously, we only have one coincidence, quite easy to solve. The Japanese have two and the way they handle it is less fit to solve it.
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>>172412409
>boss fights
>interesting
>>172415224
no you don't
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Did japs have an autistic fit about EMD2 too?
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>>172419090

Did they even hate EMD as much as us?
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>>172419414
I'm not sure, but I think japs liked EMD
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>>172419414
>japs hating a mystery dungeon game with cute girls
They love that shit.
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>>172419464
So japs have good taste at least in this regard?
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If I rest a retired character, do I keep the retirement bonus?
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>>172419814

yes
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>>172419814
The only thing that overwrites retire bonus is another retire.
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Hey kid, wanna see a cool camping spot?
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>>172422553
remove robots
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>>172422553
I never understood why she was nice to you in the beginning. Was it to gain your trust to lure you into a trap?
Explorers would fall into it anyways since the true way forward is a fucking wall that you can only pass because Olympia punched a hole in it.
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>>172425074
What am I looking at here?
Is she putting her gun to a wall threatening to shoot it?
Or is she doing some sort of elevated crossfit push-ups in a dress and has her gun to the floor?

Also who is this?
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>>172425074

Put the gun down, Yin.
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>>172425685
No
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>>172428682

I want Princess to be buried underneath a pile of copies of Caligula and all the other recent not-EOV Atlus games.
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>>172429153
Stop bullying princesses
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>>172429847
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>>172430380
Who gave mayonaise to a dumb girl
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>>172429153
>copies of Caligula
So... nothing? That shit is digital only in NA.
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>>172430649
bodysuit > sarashi
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>>172430826
They're basically cosplaying chinchin
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>>172422553
I would follow her to every camping spot.
The possibility to get killed makes it even better.
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>>172434232
hot
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>>172436124
just 100 en
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>>172436832
don't fuck shrooms
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>>172437091
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>>172437828
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>>172439232
You know, maybe EMD2 won't be too bad.
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>>172439232
Young looking and busty?
Surely that can not be EO!
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>>172439232
>freckles

best girl
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>>172439232
I can't deal with the stereotype. So great.
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>>172439232
>manface
thanks satan
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>>172439470
>best girl
But that's not Rickt
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>>172439738
ricky is ugly and should die
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>>172439634
not even Himukai men look like that
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>>172439738
>dicky
>even remotely close to best girl
highlander pls go and stay go
>>172439814
take away the braid and tits and tell me it's not a man
although if they tried to replicate cuck tavern girl stereotype they had a success
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>>172439634
>big eyes
>round face
>long hair
>eyelashes
>small nose
>blush
Aren't those the features of a girl? You look at weird men, dude
I think she looks cute, it's better than that stupid looking mf in EO2(U)
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>>172440510
Meant EO1
the greenshirt guy
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>>172436124
Have you ever wonder what's under her bra?
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>>172439470
Agreed.
Also her tits are neither non-existant nor bigger than her head which is a definite plus.
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>>172439798
She looks so lowkey smug in this image.
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>>172442112
>she'll never work on your shroom with her mouth
>you'll never put your shroom into her basket
why live
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Why are FOEs in EO2 so much more dangerous than bosses? Seriously that Mantis is way more deadly than the Chimaera.
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>>172448985
because they are not and can even go to retarded extremes like blue gel which absolutely cannot do shit but meatwall your attacks and explode when it dies
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>>172448890
remove hat
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stop fucking dying
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>>172451081
neVer
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>>172451081
just kill me already
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>>172451709
>dancer, medic, arcanist
>3 healers and a fortress

Holy shit, battles must take ages for this party.
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>>172454296
battles with a cake maybe
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>>172454346
>mfw still no V announcement
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Where the hell are my bunny girls atlus, i'm not learning fucking japanese
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THOSE FUCKING BIRDS IN CLARET HALLOWS IN UNTOLD CAN GO EAT A FUCKING BOWL OF DICKS
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>>172457608
It's hollows
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>>172458253
Clarinet Hellos
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>>172457608
Wait until you reach floor 30.
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>>172458638
I AM AT FLOOR 30 AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO MAKE PRIMEVAL SPAWN
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>>172458464
Or just disgusting shit, which it is. Why couldn't ancient people just use fucking napalm instead of some useless nuke and how a vacuum cleaner can even fucking evolve
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>>172458746
Every 13 days as usual.
In Story mode, you don't need to wait for a spawn, just talk to the wall were Privemal was
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Remind me what was heavenbringer even going to do? I played eo4 3 years ago and i'm not sure i want to replay it now
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>>172459585
ancient evil
humanity
all life
danger
must kill
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>>172459585
turn everyone into shrubs
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>>172459585
Turn everybody into plants.
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>>172459585
It would mindlessly cause everyone and everything around it to grow vines and die.

My theory is that the Yggdrasil we see in EO4 has terraforming abilities and after it went berserk and got shut down a hundred years ago (which is the same time the Deep City had to be brought to the ocean floor and the last Fafnir ritual failed) it stopped maintaining the terraformed land.
That's why the Empire wants to reawaken it because their land turns back into a desert.
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>>172460028
>>172460059
Don't it have enough stick people worshipping it? What a greedy fuck
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>>172460571
There are never enough twigs.

We need twigs in Etria.
We need twigs in High Lagaard.
We need twigs in Armoroad.
We need twigs in Aeolis.
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>>172461934
Plantgirls are the best non-humans
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>>172461934
Heavenbringer pls go
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>>172462534
I wonder who can be behind that post
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>>172465359
I want to sniff megane too!
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>>172465732
Medic is not for sniffing
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>>172466078
Only for head pats.
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>>172467103
Don't be sad, Fang.
You already had your remake, you are golden.
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>>172468014
She's sad because her friends from Armoroad are left with just one game
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>>172468139
She is such a good girl, wheeping for others...
Too pure for this world full of Atlus cruelty.
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Reviews for Persona 5 are coming out.
Everyone praises it nearly as hard as Breath of the Wild.
Maybe it will sell well enough that AtlusUSA can hire someone to localize EOV.

A tiny glimmer of hope...
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>>172439232
>this semen demon gets posts right after i go to bed

fuck
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>>172470394
You mean make Persona Q2
>>172471442
>this
>semen demon
pick one
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>>172470394
hope is dead
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>>172470394
>every new shiny toy gets praised by journalists
>especially the overrated and overdelayed shitsona 5
wow who would have expected this
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>>172471715
what do you think is in those mugs?
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>>172472519
Alternative form of piss known as beer
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>>172472169
I just hope they praise it hard enough so people actually buy it.
Whether or not Shitsona is worth a damn could not be any less relevant to me. All I care about is that Atlus has enough money to localize actually good games.
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>>172472732
>he thinks atlus will spend persona money on something other than persona
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>>172472925
Using money from a successful franchise only on said successful franchise would be the safe and smart thing to do.
But since when are video game executives smart?
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>>172473153
Actually, it would be pretty stupid to keep Persona money only for Persona. Atlus USA doesn't get a say on what games are made so it's not like they can invest it on making PQ2.
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>>172472519

Frothy breast milk.
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>>172473153
Everyone is smart enough to think "this series literally prints money and this one is played by 3 weebs in the entire country, guess which one shall we dump money upon"
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>>172439232
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>>172473659
>they are localizing underwater ray romano and caligula effect
>both sold half as well as eov
You were saying?
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>>172475092
money laundering
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>>172475092
3DS easier to hack
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>>172475092
Caligula will sell well on persona hype alone
Don't know the fuck ray romano is and why it's translated
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>>172475092
I want to reason that they can be more careless with those since their parent company wouldn't suffer from it but it doesn't make that much sense.

>>172475453
Utawarerumono. That one where everyone has kemonomimi and/or tails
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>>172475668
>Utawarerumono
Waifus probably
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heh, persona 5 destroyed ffxv on metacritic
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>>172476407
>destroyed ffxv
How bad the game should be to not destroy final failure xv?
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>>172476407
fujoshi fantasy is shit
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>>172476407
EOV totally DESTROYED drumpf on HBO last night
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>>172476772
so does that mean it's trump's fault we're not getting eov in the west?
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>>172476772
what
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>>172476772
>>172476951
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How does one farm gold grimoires in Untold 1?
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>>172480415
When you reach level 90 you start to get a lot of flawless grimoires
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Is it even possible to unlock formaldehyde in eo2u or these are chest only?
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>>172481278
Post-game FOE conditional drop. The FOE is annoying as fuck to fight though.
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>>172483869
I hate twitter
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This is why we got EMD2
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>>172481585
you don't really need formaldehydes anymore unlike in U1
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Do my completed quests from classic (I'm playing it first) transfer like completed to story mode in Untold 1? I don't want to farm like a retard again
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>>172483869
Give sauce
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>>172486284
nope
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>>172487131
So, I have to do them again?
fug
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>>172487630
You can just farm them now, storage them and just complete the quest as soon as you get it in NG+
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And I defeated Overlord in EO2U. He was a fucking asshole.

I'm starting postgame now and resting my whole team: HiP/GSoH. What skills should I max and focus on now?
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>>172488823
you'll have to kill the dragons next
have a backup member with element guard grimoires because they can spam two elemental AOEs per turn in Untold 2
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>>172489107
You gotta be fucking kidding me.
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>>172489551

Cores were a mistake.
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>>172489551
By the way.
Never, NEVER, bind the legs of a Dragon. It will be Game Over if you do that.

Because the Core's elemental attack will go first, leaving you to die to the dragon big elemental attack.
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I'll go one by one, I wanna be as optimal as possible for postgame since EO2U Expert is seriously some next level shit in terms of difficulty.

Highlander: Max Spear Mastery, ATK Up and Cross Charge. Should I max Delayed Spear and Bloody Offense or leave it at a minimum? Should I spend in Long Trust and HP Up?
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>>172494203
Unless you dual-wield elemental walls! If they're different level they don't overwrite each other Thus making the combat way longer than it should.

For red dragon this doesn't matter much. The core has so much HP and eventually gets so damn powerful that there might as well be two dragons. Full power fire breath every single turn was a sick joke.
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>>172494780
postgame is ezpz right up until the last dragon and ur-child bro don't overthink it
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>>172485954
She says she's sorry for the lack of stock.
I guess nips do like EMD
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>>172500068
>>172501580
>>172502561

Nene is for impregnating.
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>>172503518
Nips know good games. Hope we get an NA of it.
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How often does /eog/ use their real names when creating characters?
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>>172510464
Never.
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Goodnight, thread
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>>172510464
The mere thought is disgusting.
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Big megaten player here branching out, why did they start out with such a terrible boss?
I managed to beat Fenrir but the fight was pretty much just checking your level/gear.
Are there going to be more interesting bossfights later on?
Playing original EO and running PL/MST
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>>172512448
>starting with EO1
nice, you took the deep dive. I can't really remember if EO1 has much in the way of gimmick bosses. once you party's skills get rolling they just start to drop anyway
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>he plays with a protector and medic in his team
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>>172513219
I really like the difficulty curve between levels and the pacing in the game so far.
The beginning was rough and I had to once grind for inn money but it wasn't too bad.
I like how you keep getting a bit further every trip and at floor 4 onwards you got enough resources that you can start using consumables and skills the combat is pretty fun.
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>>172514328
That's the appeal of EO.
It's a no bullshit RPG, that gets to the heart of what rog strategy should be.
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>Still can't decide on color palettes.

I'm almost glad we're not getting EO5.
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>>172514318
Doesn't immunize and defender stack?
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>>172514318
Sometimes you just don't want to take damage.
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>>172512448
The first two games are pretty rough and their balancing is all over the place.
They are good games and the core principles that make the series great are already present.
But the amount of bullshit they throw at you can sometimes be a bit annoying.

I salute you for not taking the easy route but starting with the first game instead of later ones.
You have a good party going so you should be able to get through without too many problems.
(A word of warning for EO2: Atlus didn't like that Landsknecht and Survivalist were strong so they got gutted pretty hard...)
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>>172515169
Please don't jinx it.
Just pick standard colors so the game can get localized. Everyone is waiting for you.
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>>172514318
>he is a dumb namefag and neneposts
kys anytime
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>>172518050
Well technically Persona Q is my first EO game.
And I don't mind bullshit as long as there is a smart way to avoid it.
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>>172518050
>playing an objectively worse game is not taking the easy route
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Nene is béne.
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>>172519429
Well, at least Persona Q prepared you for stepping on every tile (I'm still baffled they thought including that was a good idea...)

In the DS EOs you can only see FOEs on your map if they are on tiles that you stepped on or that are next to tiles that you stepped on.
So stepping on every tile makes your map contain more information.

Thankfully in EO4 they changed it so that dicovered tiles are a 4x3 area in front of your party (so turning 360° discoveres a circle around you) and starting with EOU maps have fog of war showing you the areas in which you can or cannot track FOEs.

Be careful about Defender and Immunize. Both of them greatly reduce the damage you take and are a great way to deal with hard fights - but using both at the same time really trivializes nearly all encounters because of the way they influence the math.
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>>172519553
>objectively worse
That's a strong word to use here.
I would say EOU story mode has the objectively worst introduction to the series ever.
It sets you up with two utterly overleveld characters that solve every encounter with normal attacks.
So it not only fails to teach you how the game works it actively misleads you as to what you are expected to do in any fights beyond this tutorial.

EOU Fenrir is a complete joke, only there to teach you a mechanic you will never need after his fight.

And Grimoires.
Having them clog up your inventory, wasting your time for throwing them away or identifying them and taunting you with bad RNG is worse then flat out not having them.
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>>172519989
>I'm still baffled they thought including that was a good idea
Don't forget you're talking about people who thought making a persona game with EO mechanics is a good idea
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>>172519989
>In the DS EOs you can only see FOEs on your map if they are on tiles that you stepped on
I though that was what the monster marker was for.
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>>172520823
But it was a good idea, I really enjoyed it and playing it was the reason why I decided to give EO another try.
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>>172520951
awful fucking taste
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>>172520829
You mean the purple ball? That's just an icon, it doesn't move.
Stepping on every tile means you can keep track of patrolling FOEs.
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>>172521015
It's a good fanservice game for persona.
And a good introduction to EO gimmick.

Honestly, if PQ brought player in EO and increased our chance to get more, then it's a success.
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>>172521089
Yeah, you can mark patrol areas of foes on tiles you haven't explored yet.
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>>172521015
Hey now, don't be mean. We need each and every single Etrian bro.
Also it's Persona + EO. If you only knew Persona without EO beforehand of course you will like it.
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>>172521137
no last thing we need is personababs
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>>172521142
As long as you don't hit the icon limit that's probably true.
But would it show you where the FOE is right at that moment? Iirc looking around corners was a bit of a problem in the DS EOs.
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>>172521178
Bullshit.
Just because someone started out only knowing certain stuff doesn't know they are somehow tainted and unable to see the light.

Your past doesn't matter. Only how far you make it in the labyrinth is important.
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>>172521178
Last thing we need is a lower marketting cible that would make EO a non profitable game.
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>>172521156
Well for me it I tried EO when it came out and gave up thanks to the confusing skill system with no way to know beforehand if something was good or not. I think my party was something like Landsknecht/Darkhunter/Medic front row and Alchemist/troubadour back row.
In megaten games you can just try stuff out and if the skill isn't good you can just toss the demon/persona into fusion fodder.
>>172521242
Nope, I just use it to remind me of general positions where foes are so I don't run in before I see them.
I remove them after I've walked on the tiles.
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>>172521702
>if the skill isn't good you can just toss the demon/persona into fusion fodder.
And in EO you can rest, not like there are that many skills which are plain shit
>Nope, I just use it to remind me of general positions where foes are so I don't run in before I see them. I remove them after I've walked on the tiles.
Nice job doing stuff in reverse
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>>172522062
Well I usually explore the areas without FOEs first so it works for me. Sorry for not playing the game exactly like you do.
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Stop dying you little shits. we still have to live until tuesday
>>
I just finished the story in EOU2 and I'm playing it again in Classic. I want to make a party that's balanced but also contains none of the classes from the story party. Would something like the EOU1 party with Canada-chan replaced with a beast work?
Alternatively give me ideas for OP meme parties.
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>>172522992
le fourth of april meme
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>>172520823
PQ sold better than any EO and probably was dirt cheap to develop, it was a good idea.
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>>172523874
that sort of thinking gave us 7th dragon 2020 and vfd
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>>172523554
Meme party?
Hexer, Dark Hunter, Troubadour
A fully boosted Dark Hunter can two shot some post game bosses.
Trance doubles the damage against enemies with a bind or ailment and Ecstasy has a higher damage multiplier than some Force Breaks.
Just throw in a Beast and either a Healer or give your Beast a Healing Rythm Grimoire and someone some healing Grimoires for emergencies and take another damage dealer along.

EOU party with Beast instead of leaf would work but Gunner's Action Boost got weakened a bit and Highlander is all around not as strong as it was in EOU.
You would need to be careful when it comes to elemental damage though Beasts don't like taking those hits. But it's nothing equipment and/or Mists can't fix.
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>>172524027
Never played any 7th Dragon, what do you mean?
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>>172523667
I won't let this guy walk away unscathed
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>>172510464
I register a character with my HN. He doesn't resemble me at all, in looks or personality.
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>>172524794
No wonder, no EO game still has the disappointment class
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Um.. Hello! If I'm not bothering anyone, may I ask something?

I've looked this series and played a demo a year or two ago and it looks interesting! Is this a series worth investing into?

Sorry if this isn't the proper place to ask that, I'm just curious..
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>>172520823
It was better than a MD game with EO characters.
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>>172524948
EO2's Beast was pretty bad.
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>>172525065
get EO4 demo and play it
If you like it buy the whole game, then the untolds. Don't let the memers coax you into playing DS games, only 3 is worth playing now solely because atlus refuses to release EO3U
>>172525097
It's not
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>>172525225
Thank you!
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>>172524948
Any day now! In EO6 for sure I'll be able to self-insert properly!
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So, about the quest where you have to spend N days in a certain floor, can I fail it or can I try until I get it?
EO1
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>>172526725
I think there was an easier way to do it like walking around the spring or boss room or something
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>>172526985
Yeah, but I might as well gather money while doing it.
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>>172524462
The original 7th Dragon was EO fighting mechanics on a more standard RPG game.
Top down 3rd person view (like the early Final Fantasys), 4 man party, no map drawing, save-the-world plot, sword and sorcery setting.
It was easier since all classes were way stronger and you were supposed to fight their version of FOEs upon first seeing them instead of evading any.

7th Dragon 2020 played in 2020 - weeabo classes like Hacker and Idol, 3 man party in one line, dumbed down combat, skill points were a currency you could farm instead of something rare and valuable.
Also horrible 3D models but that is the least of its problems.
It got a successor in 2020-II

VFD was a rehash of 2020, combat feels even more dumbed down and somehow more repetitive.

Since 2020 the series has nothing in common with EO whatsoever and while the first game had a lot - a fucking lot - of problems I feel it was easily the best 7th Dragon.
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>>172527096
You'll run out of bag space in day 1
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>>172527360
Good point, I guess I'll just go gather the take nodes every day and chill at the fountain.
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>>172526725
Iirc failing a quest means you have to abondon and take it again at the bar.
I know for a fact that it works like this later in the series and I'm pretty sure it works like this in the original.
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>>172524948
EO2U has Ronin which is pretty close.
A pure damage dealer class that gets outdamaged by a healer - top kek.
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any way to play EO2U on citra with highlander DLC?
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>>172527838
get a job
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682nd for resting costing ten levels
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>>172529270
10 levels for rest is a mistake
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>>172529360
That's why they pushed it down to 5 first and finally to a more acceptable 2 in the 3DS games.

It means you think about a build you can run all game instead of resting for every halfway challenging encounter but it also doesn't make your character useless should you mess up.
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Etrian odyssey more like blonde sluts
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>>172530106
EO2U had no blond slut on the cover and sold like shit.
Stupid release date has nothing to do with it, it's all Arianna's fault.
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>>172530224
Dicky pls go
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>tfw I used the team on the EO4 cover because muh canon
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>>172531639
Some boring classes in the mix but at least you took the best portrait for every class.
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>>172531768
>bobshark
>autism sniper
>teleports behind u nightstalker
>best
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>>172531768
literally the only case where that might be true is fortress and even there I prefer nee-san fort
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>>172533857
>not liking the glasses medic
>thinking anything is better than lewdress
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>>172512448
That was my team when playing that game, I can assure you you got a very good team that will serve you up to the True Final Boss. I'm gonna say, don't be afraid of using a guide or ask for help for skills as Resting costs 10 Levels and it can be a true bitch to get them back.
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>>172533981
scruffy > shitty lolis who aren't as good as medigirl
pink slut > other NSs
bandana > bobcuck
ponytail > other snipers
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>>172534140
>scruffy
gay
>medislut
>good
remove yourself
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I'm convinced they make them lewd on purpose
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>>172534330
Scruffy is absolutely the best medic in EOIV.
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>>172534797
Wrong and gay
Glasses medic best medic
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>>172534618
How did you come to that conclusion?
Japs making animu girls lewd on perpose? Never!
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>>172534140
>lolis who aren't as good as medigirl
lol
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>>172535432
But they do it
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>>172535598
It must be a coincidence. Lewding out qute girls is outright nefarious.
What could they possibly gain from doing so?
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>>172534140
scruffy is for faggots. period
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>>172536028
pictures
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>>172536526
A worthy cause, indeed.

Also: Great taste. Brown Etrian girls need more attention.
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>>172536526
>like red hair and green eyes
>hate brown
I don't know how to feel about this.
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>check all types of sites for 2017 upcoming 3ds games
>eo5 no where to be seen
>but the list goes well into december
i want the pain to.. stop
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>>172536982
Where would the sides get their info from other than official announcements?
Leaks happen but why risk your job at Atlus for a small series like EO?
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>>172536982
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>>172514318
>Neneposter was a fucking namefag all along
I am not surprised
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What should I level up on my EOU2 Hexer? I already maxed out binds/poison/defense debuff.
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>>172538841
fear, chained benefit, blind, sleep, weakness curse
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Is ultimate gear even worth it in 4 or better find something with a lot of forging slots?
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>>172539403
Ultimate weapons have the most forging slots out of anything.
And they are not worth it since you need to kill the post-game super boss over and over to get them.
The second tier of weapons only requires normal post-game bosses except the knife and staff which need FOEs. The second tier stuff has a bit less ATK and less forge slots.
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>>172539713
>post-game super boss
the saviour?
what about armor, the same?
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>>172539057
That's a lot of points to invest into
If I had to pick 1 or 2 to prioritize what would they be
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>>172539863
from left to right in order of importance
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>>172539808
Nah, armor is usually bound to either conditional drops from FOEs or multiple normal drops from different FOEs.
Getting it is no problem since one type of FOE in the 6th maze has the ingredient for Formaldehyde as their normal drop.

Ultimate armor is still the best since armor never has empty forge slots, only weapons have those.
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>>172539808
Yes, you need to defeat the Warped Savior to get one material for the ultimate weapons.
All weapons use the same material. All weapons have 8 forge slots.

It's pretty stupid how often you would need to kill the Warped Savior to outfit your team.
And all that you would use the weapons against is the stronger form of the Warped Savior (without useing chemicals to weaken him) which isn't even that hard to begin with.
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>>172540157
But are the armors actually worth it or better get something like aurora veil and its resists?
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>>172539057
No Madness Curse? It's only slightly weaker than fear in preventing the enemy from doing anything truely dangerous.
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>>172540459
All armors except the Fortress one have offensive stats (or at least LUC for Archanist) so they are better than Aurora Veil.
Going for damage is heavily rewarded in EO4.

Fortress would need some testing. 2 HP Up and 2 VIT forges aren't bad by any means.
And in EO4 Armor reduces TEC-based damage (which got removed in the Untolds) so Aurora Veil would make you more vulnerable against these while (potentially) offering better defence against the type of attack that barely scratches you anyways.

I think ultimate armor is always worth it.
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>>172540545
Pretty sure like everything worth putting a status on resists panic
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>>172538841
Poison and Sleep are solid choices for ailments.

Poison is one of the least resisted ailments in the game and Sleep has the ability for enemies to skip their turn and still allow them to take the sleep hit bonus if your Hexer is fast enough.

After that, work on the atk/def debuffs for FoEs/bosses. and near end game (strat 5 or so) start working on Madness
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>>172541051
Ur-Devil and Ur-Child immune to both
Great Dragon immune to panic, resists fear
Blizzard King resists both
Storm Emperor resists panic, immune to fear
Hecaton normal to panic, resists fear
Wyvern resists both
Salamander resists both
Cursed Pumpkin normal to panic, resists fear
Hazardous Petal resists both

Fear and panic are about the same in how easily they can be inflicted.
EOU was the game in which they forgot to put in fear resistances making it normal against pretty much anyone.

It's a matter of taste if fear or panic are better but I think fear is definitely better than sleep at the very least (and blind if you don't take the blind food).
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>>172527838
The EO games barely play on Citra. They crash after the first stratum.
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>>172541690
Fear also has a separate skilltree for trolling stuff and better conditionals
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>>172541736
i wonder if that retarded thunder spam will be in EMD2
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>>172541863
That's why it's a matter of taste.
Fear has extra skills but Madness doesn't need extra skills.
What is better between those two is up for debate.

But whatever you pick I would say the other is hot on its heels - if only so you have another hard control with a different batch of accumulated resistances.
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>>172542114
yes
and more owls, fuck owls seriously
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Is it true that japs hated EOU2?
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>>172544201
There were some fake reviews outraged about things that turned out not to be true (most things that got fixed between EOU and EO2U) and some well deserved hate for the DLC.

But one pretty big reason EO2U did shitty is that it got released in the same week as actually big titles both in JP and NA.
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I'm gonna start over in U2. I already have a couple of classes i know i want to use (Beast and War Magus specifically), I'm interested in other classes that work well with them. Do note that I'm not going to use grimoures at all - i think that they're stupid.
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>>172546290
Hexer is always great with War Magus.
And Dark Hunter is great with Hexer.
Then get some Alchemist or Gunner and you are pretty much set already.
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>>172546290
Just a word of warning: Without Grimoires Barrier won't be reliable so be prepared to have some turns that are nothing but cleansing.
Picking a Sovereign could at least protect you from ailments.

You can get through the game just fine without Grimoires although your damage will naturally be lower if you cap your skills at 10.
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>>172544201
I'm more surprised people liked EO2U
It's not a bad game but very hard to like either
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>>172547810
It fixes pretty much everything wrong with Untold 1. What's wrong with it?
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>>172547810
The bosses are pretty bad but bosses have always been the least enjoyable and least important part of EO for me.

You have a great selection of classes that are fairly well balanced and exploration and map maping is really smooth and interesting. Visually the Stratums are easily the prettiest ever.
Iguess if you don't like ice puzzles the 3rd Stratum could drap a little but I like them so all is well.

And while story is not the main focus of the game having interesting characters (and some somewhat interesting lore) in story mode definitely helped my enjoyment of the game.
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>>172548075
Retard strong tier HP on every boss
Chimera and its bullshit boogaloo as the first boss
3rd stratum in general and scylla especially
Wildly varying difficulty (like how 3rd stratum is cancer personalised and then you just roflstomp everything in 4)
Too much shit relying purely on "you don't know what we do, get rekt"
Story party NEEDS adjustments, it just plain sucks until you reclass and grimoire that shit up
Too long imo either, it took me 20 more hours to reach the postgame compared to both 4 and 1U, it seriously just drags in the end.
inb4 some of these are general EO2 faults - they had the chance to change that, they decided to not bother, end result is the same
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>>172547810
Other than the postgame, I don't see many ways to make it better than it is.
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>>172546471
Hexer im kinda meh on. I'm a little worried that my team will be too squishy with one. I haven't used a Dark Hunter before but don't they have some stuff that inflicts status ailments? I've used a Palm Alchemist before but he was a little underwhelming.

>>172547084
Sovereigns are ok but kind of TP heavy, no? Also have too worry about healing too
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>>172549869
I think you just might be bad
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>>172550016
> too squishy
It won't if you will keep throwing binds and ailments
>kind of TP heavy, no?
Wrong, sovereigns have shitloads of tp and don't spend much
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>>172550016
I thought you are using a Beast and a War Magus?
With a Beast tank it doesn't matter how squishy your team is, no one besides your Beast should take damage after the first few levels.
And Beast damage dealer is something you just don't do. Their STR, weapons and skills are all really bad for that.

Sovereign has usually no TP issues. Their pool is huge and their buffs have a good duration to them. Since you don't want to use Grimoires none of their skills ever get that expensive.

Protect Order plus War Magus should be way more healing than you ever need.
During the mid game a War Magus with even one point in Vampire using Ailing Slash on an enemy with an ailment will often be enough to heal your Beast to full even in most turns in a boss boss fights and especially the boss is properly controlled.
Make sure you get Lick Wounds and Auto-Lick.
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>>172549869
>Story party NEEDS adjustments, it just plain sucks until you reclass and grimoire that shit up

Story party works well together.
Flavio is enough to set up ailments for Chloe so she can properly deal damage. You need neither Hexer nor Gunner.
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>>172550756
>And Beast damage dealer is something you just don't do. Their STR, weapons and skills are all really bad for that.
Why does a fucking bear/tiger/wolf have less strength than a teenage girl with a katana anyways?
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>>172550914
>set up ailments for Chloe
And hexer does that way better, weak ass arrows with maybe a leg bind don't do enough to cover the difference. Reclassing Flavio at least makes the game way more tolerable.
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>>172550756
I hear Beasts don't handle AoE damage very well which is why I was concerned
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>>172550941
japanese steel
folded over a mirrion times
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>>172551416
It might be a problem without Grimoires, yes.
Especially elemental damage is something they don't like.
Equipment and Mists can help.

Also healing doesn't really help much in this regard. If the damage gets too big your Beast just dies usually.
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>>172551691
>>172551691
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>>172551287
Not that much better, actually. Mostly because hexers can target a whole line.
Otheriwse, hexer Flavio is about inflicting ailments than survivalist Flavio: even when taking into account curse mastery, for most of the game the base infliction rate of blind/sleep/panic arrow is higher than blindness/torpor/madness curse. That is compensated with items that grant higher LUK.

So while, yes, the dedicated ailment inflicting class is better at inflicting ailments, a hexer Flavio isn't so superior to survivalist Flavio that the change is anywhere close to necessary.
And by doing so you lose your third attacker, specially flank shot and drop shot which are damn useful for random encounters when you can't go full Kamen Rider.
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>>172551714
They're so sturdy they can deal with it. Combine a protection vow+back line(+defend when needed) set with auto-lick+chase heal and they can shrug everything but dragon breaths off.
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>>172552568
>+back line
Doesn't work. Beasts that take hits for someone are always treated like they are in the front line.

For the most part Beasts can take everything that gets thrown at them but you have to be careful sometimes.
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>>172552994
>Beasts that take hits for someone are always treated like they are in the front line
I'm pretty sure that's only for hit-taker whereas protection vow gets back line reduction.
At any rate, there's the possibility of using defend to make up for it while still doing their job. And protection vow granting damage reduction regardless of where it's taking a hit for someone else or not is also pretty nifty.
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