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/ndg/ - Nier/Drakengard General #XLIV

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>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

Least Wrong Edition

If you have any suggestions or links you think would be useful, then respond with it to the OP and help build up the archives.

>[Official NieR:Automata page]
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

>[DRAKENGARD/NIER COLLECTION ARCHIVE] - World Guides, Novellas, Lore, etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

>[PC Troubleshooting]
http://pastebin.com/qEZD3VLJ (embed) (embed)
>[NieR:Automata Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia] - Untranslated, use Chrome
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>[/ndg/ Downloads Pastebin] - Ripped OST, Lewds, Steam Reskin
http://pastebin.com/YWG8irCu (embed) (embed)

>[NieR: Automata Mining and Moddin Steam Group]
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nierMnM

>Nier Automata Lossless OST + Bonus HACKING TRACKS Disc

>PASSWORD=hikaru
https://mega.nz/#F!xpND2ZQI!SGnaDUc7MW5VDCJ4B9q4xA
https://mega.nz/#F!ppsjEICJ!SH2WwEAxnsQd99rZfN6u8Q

>English track list
http://vgmdb.net/album/65091

Previous thread: >>172477278
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>>172529421
What is fast travel machine?
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First for weapon stories.
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>>172529432
Higher modifier and much higher chance.
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>>172529548
>first
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>>172529538
Save points. Vending machines. If you have Emil unlocked you should have them.
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>>172529548
I miss the old longer weapon stories.
They are so short now
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Is there any resource guide? I need pure water upgrade parts for pods. Also stretched coils.
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>>172529728
Google the mat name + automata usually.

Pure water spawns on the ground in the flooded city.
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2B is the cure for Gally addiction
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>>172529728
The only materials you can't buy are Pure Water (gather in Flooded City) and the different kinds of Gadgets (Simple, Elaborate, Complex - save at the Forest Castle throne room and gather at the king's crib, reload if you don't get one).
The Gadgets are what really sucks, you can easily spend hours farming them. And no, there isn't a better way.
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This game fucked me up. I finished Ending E just a little bit ago. They're gonna live and be happy forever... right?

I didn't want to give up doing the credits solo but eventually I gave in. I'm sorry to the bros whose data protected me.
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>>172509819
Yeah, dodging cancels out your hack animation since 9S just stands there after he shoots his hack ball. So it's faster to just hack, dodge, hack
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>>172529604
When does Emil start selling weapons?
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>>172529963
no, probably not.
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>>172530112
After you stop him in front of the resistance camp
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You guys post too fast for a general.
I was trying to keep up but between work and automata, I ended up 3 threads deep in the archive.
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>>172529963
Well maybe not forever but Nines totally gets to explore Toobies Iron Pipe now
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2B AND 9S ARE LEWD!
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>>172529952
You can get many Gadgets as quest rewards thankfully, Complex ones from the first sidequest you recieve (from the weapon seller) that's actually repeatable through chapter select, and Elaborate ones from the unit data sidequest. The Simple one I think you can get it too through some quest, but I'm not sure which one.

Farming the throne room is painful.

>>172529728
>stetched coils

You can get most machine pieces at Emil's shop depending on his location. Otherwise, I think the tall giant-dildo-looking robots drop them too, which you can find outside the resistance camp in C.
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>>172530262
So no progression required?
Guess I'll keep trying.
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>>172530376
Reported.
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>Emils home
>Kaine's hut
Whoever was the muther fucker to choose the music piece for those areas is a fucking monster
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>>172530394
Yeah, but after getting all the ones from quest rewards and chests you will still have to farm quite a few.
I think it's like 3 Simple, 3 Complex, and 2 Elaborate Gadget you just have to get via gathering at one point in time or another? Hopefully you got a couple from random gathering points while playing, because running to the crib for hours on end is easily the most painful thing in this game
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>>172530317
This is like medium speed compared to other generals I've been in.
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>>172530523
Where is the Kaine's hut?
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>>172529963
>Happy forever
There's always a cycle for happiness and suffering, so no. But hey, at least Earth is a bit better now.
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>>172530617
under the mall
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Very important question: What does Adam mean by this?
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>>172530692
Feelings too complex to be put into words
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>>172530621
>>172530621
New yorha will be worse that before
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>>172530524
The unit data sidequest gives you more than enough I think, because I remember not having to farm any thanks to that quest reward. You may need 3 Elaborate, but 4S gives you like 5 or something.

Complex ones, like I said, you can get them in a repeatable sidequest, so again, you don't have to farm the throne room for that, you just get the quest, go to the location to get the items but never actually finish the quest so you get to keep the items, and repeat until you have all you need.

The Simple ones, I don't know, but at least they have the higher drop rate of any other gadget.
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>>172530734
It's not a "feeling".
It's a verb depicting an action basing on the sentence's grammar structure.
What kind of action is Adam referring to?
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>>172530692
Asking if 9S wanted to triangle ass 2B, clearly
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>>172530827
It's an action born from a feeling too complex to put into words. A mixture of hate, love, desperation, desire, reassurance, and confusion.
What 9S wants from 2B is too complex to be put into a single word, a single action.
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>>172530827
An action that you DO TO someone, not NO WITH
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>>172530524
Just run around with your scanner out as you play.
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>equip 95% in weapon attack chips
>equip an 8% down attack chip
>100% weapon attack limit reached
>???

For some reason Down Attack chips count towards the weapon attack limit. Are they the most useless chip? I thought maybe you would be able to get some strong hits that way, since the chip seems bad on it's own, but it doesn't work.
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How do i hack control machines? I did it once but now they just blows up.
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>>172530974
scanners out for 2B
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>>172531028
Sneak hack it. Can only subjugate or control if you are undetected.
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Suru : to do
Shimasu [-masu form of suru] : to do
Shitai [-tai form of suru] : want to do
>>172530827
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>>172530692
You're thinking about how much you want to lick 2B, aren't you?
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>>172530778
At first I thought the top S-unit was being put in a chokehold by a man in a hazmat suit.
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>>172531042
Affirmative. Deploying Scanners.
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>>172531314
I now need a Saigado doujin with 2B and a bunch of 9S clones.
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>>172531239
That's kinda hot.
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Stopped Emil near camp exit and he still doesn't sell weapon, what to do?
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WHY

WHY DID THEY HAVE TO DIE

NOT A SINGLE SOUL IN THIS FUCKING GAME DESERVED THEIR FATE

ROT IN HELL YOKO TARO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172531314
So what was the deal with that weapon story on one of 9S' swords that talked about a group of brothers that had a murderous traitor in their midst?

Was 9S turning into Caim a feature rather than a bug?
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>9S got the collective consciousness of the machine network to fall in love with him
Is there anyone this shota can't seduce?
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>>172531361
You get AS109 or ShindoL and you like it.
wait til C92. Some people have suffering on the backburners that they've been holding off on releasing samples of.
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>>172531441
Well, it also depends on which version of the song he's singing. He has to be singing the sped up version. Haha, double RNG
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>>172531460
>implying anyone deserves or doesn't deserve anything
it's easier to live if you stop thinking like that
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>>172531601
He does sing speed up version and sell +6 stuff!
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>>172531601
Ha!
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>>172531470
9S is psychotic. The fact that you only see it get to him once doesn't mean it didn't happen before. Reasons are arbitrary.
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>tfw can't get last ending because this faggot keeps glitching out in chapter 3 verse XIV
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>played through the game without any mods
>no crash
>tried to install FAR for second playthrough
>crashes in 15 minutes
fug, looks like I'm going to endure shitty SSAO and upscale for a while
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>>172531692
This. There's no fair or unfair. No right or wrong. No good or bad. Life's more dynamic than blacks and whites or stric adherence to poor labels and the more you look its actually all just shades of grey that ultimately doesn't mean jackshit so enjoy yourself before you cease.
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>>172531812
He deserved to go nuclear

His waifu was literally stabbed by a bitter dirty catslut before he could save her
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>>172531470
So what was the deal with that weapon story >on one of 9S' swords that talked about a group of brothers that had a murderous traitor in their midst?

I saw it as one (or all of them) becoming extremely paranoid after hearing that there was a traitor, paranoid enough that the sole survivor refused to believe the "traitor" hadn't already faked his death
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>>172531460
>thinking emil is the cruel god 2B wanted to kill so much
Time to read between the lines anon
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>>172532048
dont you shit talk A2 you piece of shit
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>>172532126
>fucked up the quote that hard
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>>172532157
She's a dirty catslut.

And she likes it!
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>>172532264
FIGHT ME!!
game needs PVP
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>>172532264
What the hell is that supposed to mean and who's spreading this slander?
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>>172529963
Yes. Fuck those who tell you otherwise.
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>>172532048
>could save her
>logic virus
Uh oh
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>>172532126
No anon.
They feared a traitor despite all being innocent and so one was born from that fear where originally there were none.
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>>172532406
yeah
that's why i put traitor in quotation marks
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>>172532368
Its okay, anon. We're here for you.
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>>172532502
Oh. Well i'm extraordinarily tired so i missed that.
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>>172532326
Would it even work?

Everyone would be 9s and hack everyone

Even without that the fighting styles are too imba
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For the twin stick segments of Automata, what are the KB controls like? I heard WASD controls shooting direction but that doesn't make sense to me to have both movement and direction on the same binding. I know you can rebind, but is there anything you can do for those segments?
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>>172532852
You can use the mouse to point, but that was unreliable as fuck for me, though that may have been cause mine was on the fritz.
Arrow keys do that too, but you're obviously limited to shooting in eight directions
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>>172532721
Dohoho, you think you can beat me in pvp shmup? You probably can
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>>172532969
Playing 9S with keyboard is a special kind of hell.
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>>172532545
In my headcanon, knowing that humanity is already dead, they just get away from all the pointless bullshit together, and at the point when they would need more and more maintenance they just remove their OS chips together and go to android heaven.
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>>172531546
He has A4's personality. Everyone loved her and it worked out for him in the end. It made me love him too.
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Finally got him. I thought he sell head fist weapon that looks like him? It just two fist weapons.
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>>172533013
I don't get it, I looked at a bunch of hacking levels and it seems easy to just dodge bullets and focus on the main thing/node/whatever the fuck its called in this game. Even with only 8 directions (if you're limiting yourself to KB exclusively for these segments) I don't see how these can be hard at all. Is 9S's hitbox xbox hueg?

Maybe I'm just used to being limited to 8 directions and folks today are spoiled by analog controls. I just can't imagine bullet hells being difficult, to me it's like solving a puzzle over and over again.
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>>172532721
I just want a coop mode to be able to play as 2 cute scanners doing cute things while murdering thoroughly.
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>Route C
>fighting against 9S
>he hacks you
>you don't play as the black sphere trying to destroy 9S' hack ship

Missed opportunity
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>>172533585
You get those by defeating Emil in his cave.
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How much are you willing to pay for the DLC?
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>the leader/captain of the YoRHa Betrayers (side quest) is 8B
>the only squad that can stand against the machines on it's own during Route C/D start is 8B's squad
She was the GOAT B-model, wasn't she?
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>>172533703
I just feel an extreme amount of discomfort doing it with keyboard.
I used to play 2hus shmup with keyboard but I can't do it in here for some reason.
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>>172533928
I'd really like a co-op Taro game. Maybe you're playing as twins that can take damage for one another or some such, or you gain access to information the other isn't privy to, kind of like the hallucinations in Dead Space 3. I feel like Taro could really do something interesting with co-op.

>>172533992
Depends on the content, but I hope it won't exceed 15 EUR.
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>>172534165
Well 2hu is a vertical shmup in which you shoot in one direction and your hitbox is tiny.
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>>172533995
A gorrilion dollars to see 2B9S happiry ever after
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>>172533992
But he never in that cave.
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>>172534276
Whoops, meant to quote >>172533995.
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Whats your favourite pod program anon?
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>>172534321
Isn't that "implyied" in ending E?
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>>172534382
Scanner :^)
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>>172534351
Make sure he talked to you about his house deep underground, go there and steal his mask, go find and talk to him outside again, then go back and hack the chest that will be at his house.
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>>172534351
Are you going to the right cave? The one you access through a pipe near City Ruins: Cave.
You have to talk to Emil first and then go down there to get into his cave. Steal one of his masks, talk to Emil again and walk to his cave again.
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>>172534382
Wire is too much fun. Pop on the Engine Blade and it's like I'm really playing FFXV.
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>>172534165
eh different beast as >>172534285 says. Touhou was also made for keyboard.
>your hitbox is tiny
True...but in this minigame you can destroy half the bullets by just shooting at them and (it seems like, idk i havent played) youve got multiple hits before you die. Maybe the hitbox is much larger than I think it is but I don't see the need to even shoot in multiple directions unless you start with enemies behind you or if theres those indestructable blocks.
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>>172534398
Ending E is a fucking joke and it's not cannon.

Even if it is, it's not enough to make up for all the suffering I went through
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>>172534592
>>172534592
>>172534592
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>>172534382
Hammer is satisfying as fuck.
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>>172534382
Spear, Hammer
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He is so retarded that it reaches new comedy levels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuKEOS9zsls

Why is he so stupid? Guys? How is this possible?
It's like he is not tainted with a single thought.
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>>172534841
Please don't tell me he's- Oh good. It's dark souls.

You know, i'd half want to see How You Don't Play Nier Automata
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>>172534841
sorry guise wrong thred
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>>172534841
He just needs to realize it's time to pack it in and get a real job
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>>172534841
what

wrong general.
unless he is playing automata, but I don't care.
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>>172534592
>ending E, the true ending, is not canon
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>>172534382
I only ever used laser
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>>172534841
>>>/dsg/
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>>172535141
>>172535007
yes, sorry guise
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>>172534494
>>172534517
Oh i did wrong cave. Also how do i hack the bunny if there only zombies around and they always explode.
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>>172534841
>check his other recent vids
>he's actually been playing Automata
>ended the playthrough at ending A

I'm not even angry at his fuckups at this point.
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Want to see something depressing?

https://www.patreon.com/darksydephil
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>NieR Automata soundtrack CD doesn't have Kaine Salvation
Well, time to kill myself
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>>172535028
>ending E, the true ending
Says who? Your mom?
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>>172535415
Taro himself said so
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>>172535415
Says the fact that it doesn't actually diverge from anything, it just carries on
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>>172535474
Give source. Otherwise bs
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>>172535265
he's a retard
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>>172535217
I may be wrong, but I think you can only hack it in Route B chapters.
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>>172535530
Please tell me you are just pretending.
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>>172535669
No. I am dead serious.
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>>172535530
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>>172535530
No I won't you can google it on your own but here's a transcript: Yoko Taro, Director: I believe that E was essentially the happy ending. This is the first time I’ve taken on this kind of challenge. I actually didn’t come up with the happy ending initially when creating and developing this game. I kind of left that off to the side for a very long time and continued to work on some of the other aspects of the game. As I developed all of the characters’ journeys, I started thinking about what would be the most fitting ending for all of those characters, and that resulted in the E ending.
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>>172535415
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>>172535217
In C you have to attack it for a while to activate, then you can hack during the fight.
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Is this like an anime where I should play with JP voices and English subs or are the English VAs good?
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>>172536116
Do whatever you like most. I played with English voices
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>>172536116
jp all the way
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>>172534382
Shout-out to my boy Mirage
>nifty i-frames
>neat AoE when charged
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Just started playing the game. Fun as fuck. Wondering What tips or things you guys suggest doing though
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>>172536116
>not wanting to listen to Toobies cute "URUSAIIIII"'s
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>>172536116
I personally played with EN because I did not want to miss a thing, and the game constantly throws exposition to you mid-battle.

Your mileage may vary greatly. 2B JP is superior, A2 EN is variable but has some great moments. I've seen people really dislike 9S EN but I thought he was absolutely fucking fantastic. I actually prefer 042's EN VA to JP, too.
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>>172536116
9S is fucking phenomenal in ENG, 2B is more true to the character in JPN
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>>172534382
>Taunt a bunch of enemies
>charge mirage
>dive into the middle of them and release

And they run when the sun comes up.
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>>172536360
Avoid this thread, many spoilers here.
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>>172536473
WITH THEIR CORES ON THE LINE
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>>172536116
JP voice acting all the way. Eng dub is utter garbage that almost made me throw up.
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>>172536584
ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE
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>>172536116
all characters are better in jp, obviously
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>>172536360
Leave before you get spoiled. Don't drop the game after the first ending. Thats it.
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I feel danger.
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>>172536639
>>172536613
Oh boy I see this ol argument is starting up again. Let's not
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>>172531574
>suffering
The game has enough suffering, I need happiness.
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>>172536360
Avoid this thread if spoilers kill your emotional investment in games. Complete the side quests, you don't want to be underleveled for round C, because it jumps somewhat in difficulty (I won't tell you who they are but you'll be fighting a lot of enemies who don't telegraph their attacks at the start of that one).
>>172536370
A2's are the qtest.
>>172536473
This is pretty much exactly what came to my mind when I first started A2, I had already been using the Type 40 blades before but then I started her line in C.
>>172536613
>>172536639
Honestly having heard both the VA work sounds fine to me, although there is an inevitable slight shift in tone and personality. I think it's all aboot preferences.
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>>172536850
Why are you saying it's an "argument"?
This is an objective fact.
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>>172536850
fuck off dub kiddy, go watch toonami
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>>172536978
> slight shift in tone and personality
Don't think so. 2B's eng voice sounds like a typical blonde slut without any real emotion put into her voice acting. It's like she's just trying to get it over with.
Eng dub 9S is bearable but his playful bantering is way better in Japanese voice.
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>>172535410
>CD doesn't have Kaine Salvation
>a game CD dont have the tracks from teh previous game
well, yeah,
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So if you're a 2B fan, is ending [L] the best ending?
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>>172536360
These are the only tips you need:
1. Do not stop playing till you get ending E.
2. Do not come back here or go in any /v/ threads about the game until you get ending E.

If you have questions about what's going on, you're supposed to. You'll find out. Keep playing. Enjoy!
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>>172537375
It was in the game though. And it has Dark Colossus and Grandma Destruction, tracks that are also from the first NieR's OST
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>>172537342
Eh, it's possible. I started with the Japanese dub because I thought it would be more appropriate, I haven't heard as much of the English one. Sometime I'll watch an hour or two of someone else playing with the English to hear some more of it.
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>>172537509
It's pretty damn good, the english voices for both Nier games were solid
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I have to fucking replay the beginning of C route now because I reloaded before it.

Fuck this, shit's depressing
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>>172537124
>>172536983
>>172536639
>>172536613
>the people who prefer the english voices accept it's high and low points.

>the people who prefer japanese voices claim that all english voices are garbage and japanese is the height of perfection despite not actually understanding the language
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Just finished the first nier. Kaine had a hard life. I just want to comfort her and her feminine penis
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>>172537454
yes but those 2 are related to teh main plot. but Kaine and Emil tracks are side quest
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>>172537425
There's also O
>they were fune
and
>2B went to fish and never returned, she likes her new life way more
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>>172537571
To be perfectly honest, this is 4chan, and a discussion thread for a Japanese game no less. There will always be people like that around. The best way to go about it is acknowledge that our tastes are subjective and no amount of arguing will change eachothers' views, best to leave it at that
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>>172537509
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D1CIXq-UN8&t=1781s
(See timestamps in description)
You can clearly see the difference.
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>>172536360
Well if you insist
>Do main quest till you have access fast travel
>Don't stop at ending A
>Do sidequests. They give you lots of lore and information.
>Get out from this thread, seriously.
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>>172537646
Not to mention I'm pretty sure the two he listed are remixes for Automata. The version of Kaine used is the exact same as the one in the first game.
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>6O japanese VA is a literal no body this being her 1st job
how the fuck did she pass the screening
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>>172537342
Aside from 2B I honestly prefer the English dub.
Kyle McCarley is underrated as fuck, he has one hell of a range and his 9S is very well done. It's a lot better than Hanae's generic deliverance, it sounds like he just mimic'd his Kaneki for 9S. I think he has one of the weakest performances out of the entire JP cast
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What's with the 10 virtual robot bodies around Gestalt report #2?
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>>172537571
>not actually understanding the language
>implying everyone is an EOP like you
Nah, not really.
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Post yfw this becomes real because of the good sales of Automata and fans asking for it
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>>172538383
>third
What a dream
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>>172538383
Don't you mean PC?
No one cares about the ps4.
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>>172538383
Why is it RepliCant?
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>>172537571
>assumes everyone who listens to the JP dub doesn't understand Japanese

Come on now, you know what they say about assuming. Also, this is an age old debate that's not even worth giving any attention to.
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>>172538504
Anon, Drakengard is a sony IP
>>172538607
>RepliCant
That's the official logo
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>>172538668
Not really. Every dub has a different quality so it's like... A month old debate at best
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>>172538607
Are you a RepliCan or a RepliCan't?
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>>172538383
Where is Nowe's game?

>>172538771
Sub vs dub goes way back
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>>172538901
Fuck off Nowe
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>>172538901
>every dub has a different quality

Are you that dense?
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>>172538994
Are you?
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>>172538383
I wouldn't care much except for Replicant version. Playing DoD3 at more than 20fps would be nice though.
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What would happen if Taro actually worked hard on a game?
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>>172538729
PC fags were spoiled by the Dark Souls release
>Demons Souls is a Sony IP
>Bloodborne is a Sony IP
>Still think that PC releases could ever happen
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Nier Gestalt HD for PC when.
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nsfw https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8F2f6rXwAQ3_c0.jpg:orig
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I watched a let's play on youtube and now I have been spoiled. This was a bad idea
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>>172539393
Delete this!
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How the fuck do you do the giant laser snake thing at the end of A/B on hard/very hard.

For that matter how are you meant to do the A2 desert boss
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>>172538729
>Anon, Drakengard is a sony IP

I just checked the manuals of 1 and 3, it clearly states that the trademark is owned by Square Enix.

>>172539645
Who would've thought that removing the experience of the one thing that makes videogames special would be a bad idea?
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>>172539289
>implying I want to play the drakengard series again

I've played one and three and they're both fucking terrible games. DOD1 at least has a good story, but they're both miserable to play. I will never understand why people get off over Drakengard 3's story. It's a low point for Taro.
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>>172539645
You only have yourself to blame
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>>172540140
exactly, i have no idea whats supposed to be interesting about 3, what a waste of time
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>>172539645
Are you somehow surprised? What did you think was going to happen? you were going to watch an LP and somehow not get spoiled?

should've just
P L A Y E D T H E G A M E retard
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>>172540140
Nier truly is the master race.

But I think a Platinum remaster of 1 and 3 with some polishing on the story would make them pretty good games to go back and play and for newcomers to get into.
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>>172539393
That video is in the zip of the Twitter in the OP: https://twitter.com/2b_butt
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>>172540230
>>172540140
The accord stuff is kind of neat, and I think that's why everyone likes DOD3's story, but it really makes up a small percentage of the total story.

Honestly DOD3's story is only a little bit above DOD2's.
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>>172540136
Sorry I meant it's exclusive for sony
at least for now
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why do people always ignore 2? if you are going to do a collection you might as well include 2, it also gives nice lore info on the dragons, also the writers who always work with yoko taro worked on drakengard 2..
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>>172538901
>Sub vs dub goes way back
I think he meant the discussion specific to Nier Automata

But yes. Sub vs Dub in general is as old as time. The quality of Dubs can vary dramatically, but the western market usually leads to trashy dubs on mainstream stuff, and there is a long established precedent for english dubs having worse scripts.

Or sometimes in my case, if you watched something subbed first, you get attached to the script and/or performances and there is no way that you'll be satisfied with the dub. The subs for Redline had a far better script than the dub, it's a real shame.

It's not really an issue on topic. Taro dubs seem to average out positive overall.
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>>172540483
There was a 2?
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>>172540483
2 isn't canon in the NieR universe
Taro didn't even direct it
He wanted a dragons in space game and they fucked him over
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>>172540289
No I'm not at all surprised. I'm just saying it would have been better to experience it first hand and I shouldn't have watched it
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>>172540437
No port will make DG3 polpular ever.
It needs a remake that's gong to look better and have a better combat system.
If not platinum then at least something better than that.
A game that looks like Gothick and plays like Gothick on 5 fps isnt ever going to sell well.
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>>172540140
>I will never understand why people get off over Drakengard 3's story. It's a low point for Taro.
I agree with you.
Zero has some good moments,
on her own and with Mikhail, and the Flower fight is pretty a e s t h e t i c. Everything else, I don't really care about.
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>>172531832
I still can't get him to spawn. I'm just going to kill myself.
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>>172540784
>automata is popular
>they decide to remake the DoD 1, 3 and Nier 1
>DoD 3 by Platinum
>DoD by Omega Force
>Nier 1 by Taro Team again just better looking
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>>172540720
Why did you watch it anon?

Btw you should still play if you haven't. I didn't watch no let's play but I was accidentally spoiled on what happens to 2B when I was still on Route A, and it still felt powerful in-game because I'd been the one playing her. A lot of stuff is like that

I'd watched a nearly 2 hour long full story recap of Nier 1 before I ever played it and I still really enjoyed that too
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I'm probably in the minority but I actually prefer DoD3's story slightly over the first one, I also empathized a lot more with the characters, even if their development was all over the place. The like that the structure is similar to Automata, you get the first ending and you're like "oookay nothing makes any sense". But from that point on, the real story is revealed and everything gets deranged as fuck, I love it.

It also has my favourite final boss fight in any game. Unironically.

>>172540648
Well, he also wanted the main character to be a loli that summoned dragons through her cellphone if I remember right. Squeenix can't appreciate his genius vision.
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>>172541514
>loli that summoned dragons through her cellphone
Pretty much contemporary Shin Megami Tensei. Maybe Taro was on to something.
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>>172541254
I was sick in bed and I made a bad decision. I will still play it. I had already bought it anyway. Also haven't seen any of the side quests and most of the weapons so I'll have those at least
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>>172536835
Get ready to die homie
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Nier/Drag-on Dragoon anime when?
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>>172542285
Wouldn't that ruin the point?
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>>172536835
Make sure to clean up the bodies beforehand.
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>>172542464
It would probably have to serve a different point like the stage plays and novella's do. He said he wants to do something besides video games now and this series has had every adaptation but an anime.
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Is there any quest in the game where given a y/n option telling the truth is better?
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>>172536835
No danger in there Anon, absolutely none. You'll be 100% daijoubu.
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What's the lore behind The Flower bringing about the destruction of the world?
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>>172542810
Just a way to fuck with humans and destroy them
God loves it
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>>172542810
DRAW NOT THE WATCHERS
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>>172543014
But there's little endgame for it besides "Fuck everything"?

I know that usually suffices as a motive in these games, I'm just wondering if I missed something.
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>>172543131
Well it's there because intoners were supposed to kill humans but Zero wasn't having none of that
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What's the deal with the towers archive looking like D+P's library from Nier's village? That reference seemed a little out of place otherwise compared to all of the others which at least had a place and reason.
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I want a Taro game to take place in this tower.
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>>172542659
>>172542285
I can see maybe Nier (both as anime) but Drakengard seems harder due to plot and all teh forking paths
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How much does it cost to fuck Zero?
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>>172543587
>Drakengard seems harder due to plot and all teh forking paths
They could go the Steins;Gate route and just do one path
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>>172543247
I thought the Intoners were created by the Flower as a defence against Zero's suicide attempt, so the will to destroy humanity given to them existed before the Intoners did, no?

Speaking of which, the Intoner's plan to destroy humanity also involves liberating them from despotic leaders at first. Is the logic behind that plan made more clear or is it mainly there as another instance of the theme that compassion has a destructive component that keeps popping up in Taro's works?

(I should really replay DoD3 some time, the wiki isn't enough to fully refresh my memories, apparently.)
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>>172542756
11b's desertion quest comes to mind
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What's this update for FAR? Does it really uncap the fps?
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>>172543441
it'd probably end up with that rock falling and killing everyone/having already killed everyone
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I have a question with regards to the decision with Pascal. Can I just walk out and not choose either? Does this change anything or is it more or less a choice where nothing happens?
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>>172543994
bump

pondering if I should stay with lite-resolutionfix or update everything for the latest
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>>172544636
Uncapping the FPS is a toggle, so whatever it does, if you don't want it, you can turn it off (or on.)
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>>172544635
He becomes as god if you just walk away.
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>>172544635
If you delete his memories he sells robot parts in his village so that's the "best" choice. You can just walk out and leave him to live with his misery too if you like, yes.
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Who Stubby here?
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>>172543441
>They won't just tether it to the ground properly and make it a space elevator.
Ree.
Reeee.
REEEEEEEE!
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>>172544736
I just dont understand the texture cache and the refresh rate (I think) 0.3 default.
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>>172545101
Does he reappear in any of the endings or is mentioned if I make this choice?
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>>172545215
If they do that (to the one in that particular picture), would the tower be ripped apart from being tethered to the ground and the asteroid orbiting the planet?
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did 21O get converted to a combat model so she could protect 9s?
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>>172545581
Yup. She wanted to protect her son. ;_;
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>>172545505
There is added stress if space elevators aren't placed exactly on the equator (there are even specific locations on the equator that are better than others) however this problem can simply be overcome by building redundant tethers which are anchored in different places on the globe to deal with those stresses. In reality, a graphene or nanotube tether is more than strong enough to deal with the stress of simply supporting itself, the only limiter is how many tethers you're willing to pay for, and the availability of optimal tether placement locations. You can construct a space elevator in most places on the globe, so long as you're willing to pay for extra supporting tethers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc8_AuzeYKE
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why can A2 use the transport machines?
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Literally what did he mean by this.
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>>172546147
Why does Taro-san's mask have that 6 on its forehead?
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>>172545891
>son

>implying she wasn't trying to get his attention, the converted herself to a combat model when it became apparent he had a thing for B models
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>>172546259
Because he's the sixth Intoner.

The Flower still won in the end.
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>>172546147
Quick google-fu
>This is all related information...
>I am sorry for the news posted before and after the game release.
He might be referring to DLC but I don't speak moon yet
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Can someone tell me what Emil tells you when you visit his truck shop as Nines in b/cd? Only visited him as 2B and A2 and then fulfilled my obligation in [E]nding.
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>>172545143
Why must they be cute.
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>>172545143
Stubs are OK.
>>172547475
Because you're the real bad guy here Anon. Why did you kill them Anon, are you some kind of monster?
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Quick reminder:

>[09/02/12422] I confirmed that the machine lifeforms released by the aliens have reconstructed their network. I've started to see units with gravity-controlling capabilities again as well.

>[10/15/12422] I was spawned about a week ago, so I don't have clear recollections of anything before that. Say, I wonder where the Original disappeared to all those millennia ago...

>[12/14/12422] I confirmed that the 25th one born after me has stopped his biological activity. Although we're technically immortal - since we can respawn indefinitely and all - we're still not exempt from death.

>[01/19/12423] Our memories are only copies, so they're pretty vague. That android wearing black... I have the feeling I've met her before. She had a complicated look on her face, but I can't remember anything...
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>>172546078
She shouldn't be able to considering her circumstances, but I have a feeling they were kept functional for the convenience of the player. Technically, she shouldn't have the ability to upload her data anywhere to save either.
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So /ndg/ What is the meaning of life?
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>>172547573
>Why did you kill them Anon
For the Glory of Mankind
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>>172547887
Is he going to show androids what human religion of peace was about?
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>>172548098
To make things better.
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>>172548098
The classic response is the correct one. The meaning of life is to find it.
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>>172548098
To live but especially find something that makes you happy
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>>172548098
With "meaning" there's already a previous interpretation that comes with it, there is no definite meaning in anything, let alone life. For me, self-aware life is about finding finding purpose and try keep improving as a person through it, about giving something to the world, making it slightly better, even if it's just with very small things, like making videogames that others may enjoy.

That's what I think my purpose is anyway. It's that way because it's what it felt natural for me to do.
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>>172548098
To Crush Your Enemies, See Them Driven Before You, and to Hear The Lamentations of Their Audio Chips

At least nier has no goddamned WRIST ROCKETS!
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>>172548098
To suffer
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>>172548098
That's something each individual has to figure out themselves, through experimentation, trial, and error. Nature doesn't give us an easy answer, and other people can't (or at least usually can't) possibly know you well enough to give you an answer either.

Things that give my life meaning are self and species improvement, the people I love, and the principles I hold.
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>>172548098
Murder
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>>172545143
Is there anything special about the red-and-black machines?

>>172547475
The one in the Family Squabble quest is cutest.

>>172548098
I don't think there is any real meaning.
Just live and try not to suffer. Take care of your vessel/health. Everything else is secondary.
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>>172548973
Come back to bed before I make you
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>>172549086
>Is there anything special about the red-and-black machines?

They're alpha machines that are so badass they took after ancient humans and applied war paint to their bodies.
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>>172548098
If we're in this Earth, I assume its probably one of worse world to live in, for me I feel like I did something really nasty to end up here of all place.
Regardless, I live for the sake of living, none less or more and hope I get into better place when I'm done with this shit.
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So you do you think Pod 042 put the sand in A2's vagina to make her rely on the Resistance and via that way, the machines? They conspire and manipulate things a lot.
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>>172548753
So, why are machines styled after Emil?

Is the DLC going to reveal that the alien attack were humans who shot themselves up into Mars to avoid WCS, genetically modified themselves over the course of millennia to make themselves immune, and then came back to reclaim their own planet?
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>>172549086
They're betterer because red makes them hit you harder.
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The locked elevators/doors with the suicide machines, I'm guessing they never actually open?
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>>172548098
To bring ever-greater glories to Mankind.

in a non-meme sense, I'd have to say that the meaning of life would be to live a happy life, however one defines it
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>>172549341
>do you think Pod 042 put the sand in A2's vagina
I think A2 had sand in her vagina even before she met 042.
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>>172549193
But Angelus, my pelvis is still sore!
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I just finished the beginning of C route and now I'm killing ALL the machines. I can't even guarantee the safety of Pascal's village. Sorry.
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>>172549739
Would angelus even be able to feel Caim's dick? I figure it would be pretty small relative to Dragon Cloaca
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>>172549842
I really recommend you disable the online functionalities until you finish the game.
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>>172550176
because deletes the save game?
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>>172549365
Because Emil spooked the shit out of the ayys.
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>>172549842
>Can't even guarantee the safety of Pascal's village.
Oh Anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gFnCwVqbWs
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>>172550264
>Because Emil spooked the shit out of the ayys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KIKrSG-Xzc
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>>172550238
Don't listen to that fag, keep online on and leave this thread godspeed and don't return until finishing [E]nding.
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since theres no bunker during route c, what happens if you die? The game was too easy by the time I got to route C, but is there no respawn and previous bodies to pick up?
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>>172550964
Hard game over screen with the option to load from last save.
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>>172550964
>what happens if you die?
reloads last save
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>>172550964
You better remember to save often
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>>172546601
Anyone?
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>>172551206
Same thing he says to 2B as I recall.

Only difference is when he scans your brain for the receipt he refers to you as 9S. There's a bug though where he then says "See you later, 2B!"
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>>172550918
Hey, he would've deserved it, he was being rude to the machines.
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So everyone gets that Emil is a Demilich, right?
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Hey guys, I have a problem with Automata on PC. I start it on Steam, but nothing will start. The process is in background and Steam tells I'm playing, but it just won't start. Anyone knows how to fix this?
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>>172543945
But she goes suicidal nuts after that, isn't she?
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>>172551513
He might as well be one.
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>>172551627
Well, I mean, he started as a skeleton. And then only his head remained. And though some claim he died he probably just got really bored and fucked off somewhere else. Because that's what demiliches do.
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>>172551713
>he started as a skeleton
Well, you know what I mean. After that bit. He started the progression of ascent through lichdom by going skelly.
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At the beginning of C it displayed the letters for both it and D. Are C/D split between the choices of supporting 9S or 2A?
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>>172551713
Speaking about Emil dying, did my game glitch out and skip a cutscene or something at the end of the secret boss?
All the heads went into self destruct mode so I attacked them to cancel it out (after getting Ending Y of course) and the screen just went white and when I came back it was all over. Really felt like there should have been a cutscene of Emil stopping them or something that was just missing
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>>172551361
Even in c/d?
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>>172551892
are you gonna ask that and not expect spoilers?
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>>172551713
Also, I decided to read the Wikipedia entry for demiliches and read that retarded fucking comment by Cracked.com. Yes, the demilich seems like a pathetic creature if you consider it to just be a skull. But it isn't just a skull. The skull with immense magic power and the ability to erase your party from existence is the demilich's answering machine.
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Am I the only one scared that story DLC might just punish characters I like even more? I'd be happy to just get a dungeon or A2 content as long as it isn't after my happy ever after-ish ending E.
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Where can i find Emil cave song?
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>>172548098
42

>>172552948
I want more suffering. I crave it. I need it.
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>>172552948
>more suffering
this. automata was way too happy for me. i want more dark scenarios like in dod1.
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>>172553079
Go play/read some nakige
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>>172552957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu_MDp5KxdA
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>>172549842
Spoilers: Pascal's village doesn't need your help in getting themselves killed.
Also, it gives you hard game overs/ "endings" at most, if not all, of the opportunities to attack them indiscriminately.

Joke's on you.
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I just killed Emil on my first try and now apparently I will never get ending Y
Fuck this shit
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>>172548098
to die for Darseid
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>>172552894
That whole article was awful.
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>>172553574
Time to delete your save and do it again
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>>172553303
>i want more dark scenarios
The world you live in is likely doomed and instead of doing anything about it you're being governed by aging hoarders elected by the willfully ignorant.
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>>172553574
>buy cheevo
>delete your save

You do have options. No use in whining about it.
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Everyone who prefers JP 2B over Eng 2B is a faggot who likes Ayanami over Asuka and whose favourite Haruhi character is Yuki.

They are not that different, they both are hiding their real emotions behind the mask. The difference is that JP's 2B is just your typical kuudere who doesn't show any emotions at all. After a single urusai in prologue she acts like lifeless doll who doesn't care about anything up until ending A (and even when strangling 9S she was less emotional when Eng 2B). How is it even possible to like this character? I guess some people like this 2B just because she's moe.
But Eng 2B has character on her own. She distances herself from 9S not by simply ignoring him, but by outclassing him. You feel her power, her dominant side. Her stare can probably break your dick. But it also make it more depressing that despite looking so strong she is so fragile inside.
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>>172553897
stopped after the first line, mccuckatron
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>>172553897
Uhh, waiter, I didn't order the sub vs dub
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>>172553803
I wanted to have a pure 100% save, so it's rather irritating.
I'll just erase my save for the good of humanity, I guess.
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>>172553897
NieR Automata has a different script in English, you would make a point if we weren't talking about those hacks known as 8-4
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I thought we outgrew the pointless dub vs sub argument like 20 threads ago.
Here's the bottom line; like what you like. There's no point in shitting on someone else's taste because it won't change their mind and it makes you look like a prick. We all have our voices at different settings so leave it at that
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>>172553372
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu_MDp5KxdA
Thats not it. i mean one with HIS house masks and voice singing.
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>>172553897
>Wanting a quiet, submissive, loyal girl is gay.
>Wanting an obnoxious, domineering, promiscuous girl is straight.
I think you're a fag Anon, sorry.
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>>172554109
Eh, you can have whatever completionist standards that suit you, but the only 100% that actually matters is getting all the Intel files, in case you have a need to be academic and reference something later.

[Y] is really the only thing that you can mess up anyway, I have faith that you can start over again.
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>>172537571
I consider the japanese version as superior, except maybe for pod 153's voice wich sound better in english. But I find that the english version is not that bad either, most voices are fine except for Commander and A2 who sounds really bad in my opinion. Also Im not a huge fan of the character change that 2B got.

Ultimately, I like jap 2B, A2, Commander and Pod 042 way too much to play the english version.
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>>172554179
Did we ever get compilation of all the differences in script?
I saw people mentioning for example that japanese "oh no" is sarcastic "oh great" in english. But are there more dramatic changes?
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>>172553332
I prefer utsuge, and besides, none of the ones I've come across have been as beautiful as Nier.

The only other game I would put in the same category as it would be Fragile Dreams.
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2B is NOT for sexualizing
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>>172553897
Everyone who preferes dub over sub is a faggot. Trust me, I'm an anime expert with over 1000 anime watched.
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>>172554473
>wanting an empty, barely human shell
>over a character with some semblance of an emotional life and is capable of reciprocating feelings.
This is a fun game, anon.
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>>172554738
Yoko Taro disagrees.
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What was your worst moment emotionally in Nier: Automata?

For me it was in the 3rd branch.
When you fight to protect the children, and you take control of the one Engels, the only thing running through my mind was "Aw hell yeah I'm not letting any of these things get near the kids." Finding out they ended up killing themselves anyway broke me.
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>>172554738
2B is for sexual, as are all the androids except 9S

>>172554862
Realizing you only control 2B for one route.
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>>172554862
For me it was a sidequest in early Route C.
9S's delivery of "I don't know if we even have a soul to concern ourselves with, but I hope you're at rest, 2B. Sweet dreams. I'll be with you before long" followed by Kaine's theme nearly brought me to tears
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Good morning lads.
Started route C again, what order of playing as A2 and 9S would you recommend?
I started with A2 tho, like the last time
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>>172553897
>literally "fanfic > canon" post
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>>172554989
I started with 9S and swapped at each prompt, kept things nicely varied
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>>172554960
>Realizing you only control 2B for one route.

This. Alongside A2 being so underused. And discovering that 9S is basically the main character.
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>>172554719
9S's character got turned into a overtly snarky character instead of just having the lowkey snark his lines imply. It bothers me every time I read those stupid subtitles. I've learned my lesson.

>>172554989
I played 9S first and it made the reveal of what happened to Pascal's village absolutely wild.
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>>172554738
>>172554862
Pretty much the same, less about the tragic part specifically and more about the whole emotional ride of that segment of the game. Pascal's breakdown really got me, I gave him the sweet release of death and I keep his core and go out of my way to make money other ways.
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>>172554989
Same shit, different turns. Doesn't matter who you pick.
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>the 2B actually matters outside of characterizing A2 and 9S meme
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>>172554719
No, but you can start playing in Japanese and you will immediately notice the difference in tone of the characters. Also 2 of the most important archives are a fucking mess in English, spoiling stuff
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>>172554862
that sidequest where the girl re-writes her boyfriend's personality.
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>>172554862

Either the death of the children or realising why 2B is so negative towards 9S at the start. To a lesser extent BECOME AS GODS made me sad since it made me think that the Machines were attempting to emulate both Humanity and the Aliens by killing themselves and becoming like their 'Gods'
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>>172554960
>Realizing you only control 2B for one route.
This. It's actually eating my motivation.
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>>172554994
How can you be sure that japanese 2B is how Taro imagined her character? Maybe he wanted her to be more like english 2B, but nips just can't play strong female characters, it's just not part of their culture of politeness and acceptance. When they need to be harsh, strong and show some power, they just replace all emotions with silly screams. That's for example how every tsundere is made in anime.
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>>172554862
Pascal's rage and determination at that moment was beautiful and pure. Then, mere minutes later, his entire reason for living was gone. It was great.

But the moment that took me the lowest was at the end when Adam asked 9S if he'd like to come with them. I thought long and hard before choosing to stay. It was the painful choice, but it felt like the right one.

Then I cried a bit/spoiler]
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>>172554862
Pic related, Red Hood quest finale, Gathering Keepsakes finale shit made me put pad down and take a walk, A2 that coundn't talk 9S from fighting and her sad gaze, failures during credits boss
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>>172531460
But they're alive in E anon.
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>>172554738
What about hand holding?

>>172554862
Having to kill everyone in Pascal's village. But the exact moment was when I had to kill the two sisters with the ribbons. I remember screaming at the screen insulting Yoko Taro in many different ways.

>>172554960
>Not sexualizing best android
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That whole section at the end of C/D where you're constantly swapping controls between A2 and 9S on the way up the tower was easily one of the best leadups to the final sequence I've ever played
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>>172554862
Realizing this game has no replay value after it all, and no way to enjoy a run through as 2B with the new game plus without it being absurdly easy.

If that doesnt count, I actually almost cried when during the E credits, and i stopped being a bitch and accepted help, and the chorus kicked in, and the help players started dying for my sake.
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>>172555596
Your posts miss SJW label
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>>172554862
The only thing that hit me emotionally was ending E.
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>>172555660
I was convinced that last minute betrayals was hard coded into the Devola/Popola models when this scene started.
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>>172555596
Because the Director can have input over the original voices, but rarely ever have input over localization. In fact Yoko Taro himself said that he had no input on localization for Nier: Automata in numerous interviews.

So the closest thing there is to Taro's vision is most likely the original japanese version.

You don't know what you're talking about anon.
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>>172554862
Killing the operator who had motherly feelings for you.
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>>172531460
>deserved
shit happens
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>>172555660
are the weapons Dev and Pop use the same ones Kaine had?
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>>172556149
They're just the Type-3 swords that they sell.
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>>172556057
>motherly
>implying 9S isn't Shinji, 2B isn't Rei, and 21O isn't Asuka
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>>172556231
get in the fucking flight unit 9S
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>>172556231
so is the Commander, Jackass, or 6O Misato?

>>172556298
Shut Up about pacifism and get in the goddamned Engel, Pascal
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>>172555596
because only the west likes le quirky sarcasm characters
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Quwstions

If i want to get the E ending but still want to go back to 100% a few things can I just save my game in two slots and be fine or do I need to manually back up the file?

And is there a specific place emil has to be to get the changing room thing from the shop or is it just RNG
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>>172556231
>9S voiced by Megumi Ogata
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MOTHERFUCKING MONEY
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>>172556456
You can get E without deleting save.
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>>172556456
you can say no to it deleting your save, but otherwise no, you need to manually back it up, when it deletes, it deletes all 3 slots.
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How does the damage work in Automata?
Are the two numbers a range, like a weapon with 5 - 7 could do anywhere from 5 to 7 damage?
Or is it for normal and critical hits? 5 on normal, 7 on crits?
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>>172553372
Okay you guys not very useful, i found it myself.
Really beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go6YVUSwSsc
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>>172546259
Halua was code-named number 6.

Emil is number 7.
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>>172554768
>I'm an anime expert with over 1000 anime watched.
More like newfag who doesn't know why sub > dub and just parrots what everyone says. The difference is that in anime producers usually dedicates a good portion of their budget on seiyuus. And usually director or someone else important from the staff sits on all voice recording sessions to explain how every scene should be played. Anime dubs almost always have no budget at all, they just hire the cheapest voice actors availbale and record everything as fast as possible. That's why sub >>> dub in anime.
But this process is completely different for big games. Localization and voicing gets a lot more budget. Localization team usually has direct contact with people who made the actual game. And producers QC and approve/disapprove results.
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>>172555660
9s' reaction made no sense for someone who hasn't played the first nier (like me) and doesn't know about the whole betrayal thing

There was literally no reason for 9s to believe they were heading in to attack him after what they have done to him. And it's not like he knows about their backstory either.
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>>172556436
>only the west likes le quirky sarcasm characters
Then why is Bakemonogatori the best selling anime of 21st century?
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>>172547887
500 years of peace ain't bad.
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>>172556647
>Localization team usually has direct contact with people who made the actual game.

not with automata
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>>172548098
As long as you're not hurting anyone, find your own meaning and enjoy the time you have.
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>>172531832
>>172540931
>Ended up importing a 100% save and starting where I left off
Feels like cheating desu
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>>172556456
I got the dress module when he appeared near the building where you start the game. Also I did 100% a few things after ending E and it's really not interesting to do. I quickly regretted not deleting my save after ending E.

>>172556647
Im pretty sure he was joking.

>>172556231
Evangelion is a really bad analogy for the characters though.
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>>172556881
>She had a complicated look on her face.
>Peace.
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is it plausible that Drakengard/Drakengard2/Drakengard3 could be HD'd for pc within a decade?
Drakengard3 having stable fps would be HD enough for me but still
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>>172556854
forced meme anime that got popular because some memesters spread bullshit about how "good" it this now everyone thinks they're supposed to like it
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>>172552948
If there's more suffering I'd expect it to be a prequel of sorts.

We only saw the tail-end of the cycle of sacrifice.
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>>172556662
It's definite more of a nod to people who know the previous one but I don't think it's completely farfetched in context.

I mean even if he doesn't know their backstory at that point it was set up that they did something bad before and it wasn't until the backstory part where it clarifies that they aren't the same devola and popola.
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>>172542285
anime is a 10000% inferior medium to videogames
No
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>>172557175
>not watching it when it aired
you're the meme
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>>172557037
Allowing yourself to feel isn't always easy.

Doesn't mean that it's bad.
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>>172557315
but I did
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>>172557037
Could be because she knows Emil doesn't recognize her.
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>>172556976
Square Enix is a big cmpany. They have producers who manage all that shit. Even if Yoko Taro doesn't know english his only role is to make a game. Producers must ensure it sells. They are the ones who find and approve lozalization teams. They are the bridge between everyone involved in making the game. Localization teams do not work directly with director or developers, but they have contact with production staff. And any good producer would be able to deliver any message to Taro and back.
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>>172556881
I'd like to know what's going on between sweet couple and A2.
For some reason I think that they don't really interact for quite some time, thanks to their memories of en[D]ing and A2 being asocial af for quite some time.
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>>172554862
The start of route C when everything went to shit. When 9S placed a stick with 2B's blindfold in Emil's special place/Kaine's shack. When 9S found 2B's message in her flight unit.
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>>172530692
it can't be kill.
that's a single character in Japanese.

Could be : 房事
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>>172557882
>All of 9S during Route C
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>2B wants to fuck 9S
>A2 wants to fuck 9S
>21O wants to fuck 9S
>Devola wants to fuck 9S
>Popola wants to fuck 9S
>Adam wants to fuck 9S
>N2 wants to fuck 9S
>N2 goes to the lengths of creating three towers specifically to fuck with 9S
>N2 built a space cannon solely for the purpose of fucking with 9S
>N2 gets pissed off because A2 is interfering in shit meant for 9S
>21O is tsun for 9S as long as 2B's within earshot
>21O can't stop slobbering over 9S when he's alone
>2B is tsun for 9S once he starts doing favors for other women
>A2 is a grumpier 2B when she's not around 9S
>since Emil is gay he probably wants to fuck 9S
>since the Commander just handed over top secret documents despite knowing what's gonna happen once he learns the truth, she probably wants to fuck 9S
>the logic virus probably wants to fuck 9S
>Little Sis Machine probably would've wanted to fuck 9S after puberty
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>>172557836
That, and things will probably be pretty awkward post-murder-death match.

Give em a week or two to adjust. Ease into the uncomfortable apologies.
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>Everyone wants to kill someone else
>No one is happy
>That one guy that gave up and started a family got killed too
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Remember how you switched between 9S and A2 when you fought 2 Spider?

Why can't you do that during Route A/B?
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>>172558391
Oh god he really is Kirito
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>>172558391
9S is the worst thing about Automata.
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>>172558779
go fuck yourself lad
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>>172558665
That didn't piss me off until right now
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>>172551582
her apprentice no, but 11b likely got killswitched sometime after landing
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So why did Taro decide to kill Devola and Popola again? When they appeared in Automata I though it would be an excuse to all players who were sad about killing them in Nier1. Nope, more suffering and even more meaningless death.
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>>172545505
wouldnt wind resistance fuck their shit up?

just the design of this thing looks off the charts. we might be talking about a skyscrapper with 10k floors thats about less that a kilometer wide
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>>172558391
>>since Emil is gay he probably wants to fuck 9S
I want to see 9S covered in balls.
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>>172559351
I thought only Devola actually died?

>Nope, more suffering and even more meaningless death.

Fits with the nihilistic themes of the game
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>>172548098
to try your hardest and find the leastest regret on what you do
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>>172559351
it never said they actually died
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>>172559540
It's heavily implied Popola died from the hacking and it was made pretty clear during their novel section (And the first Nier) that one would absolutely refuse to live without the other.
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>>172559536
Popola fried herself and died.

Devola chose to die with her.
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>>172559536
>Fits with the nihilistic themes of the game
What? The game is 100% anti-nihilism, ending E has you flat out say that life has meaning. It's full of hope in dire, awful, totally fucked up circumstances.
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>machine lifeforms have been evolving ever since Emil beat the shit out of the aliens
>gradually becoming more human
>starting to develop personalities, sense of self, aspirations
>huge amounts of machine lifeforms developing familial bonds
>Pascal cherished family, friends, and life beyond an endless conflict
>Auguste, Friedrich, Big Sis, Little Sis and Eve all cherished siblings
>Grun went insane because no matter how hard he tried, he was a war machine
>Simone Beauvoir went insane because she couldn't understand love until it was too late
>multiple machine lifeforms are desperately pleading for their mothers
>Eve doesn't give a shit about anything except a happy life with his brother, who is also probably his lover since this series has incest and other shit in it
>Nier 2 wants to keep evolving no matter the cost and doesn't mellow out until he kills himself, just like last time
>Adam is a huge dickhead for literally no reason other than 'man humans were assholes; maybe we should be assholes too'

Let's talk about Adam and Eve for a second.
>is the result of some bizarre phenomenon in which hundreds of machine lifeforms turned into a giant womb and shat him out
>upon being born, he doesn't do anything
>he looks at 2B and 9S and just stands there because he doesn't know what to do yet
>2B and 9S take this unique opportunity to attack a non-hostile newborn, one-of-a-kind being
>killing him results in a second Adam being born anyway
>apparently Eve is capable of dying repeatedly and just coming back but it's never explained or seen
>Eve, instead of being a crazy dickhead like his brother, is actually really mellow
>Eve just wants to hang out with his brother; that's it
>Eve does what he's told because he loves his big bro and just wants to make him happy
>Eve goes nuts because his asshole brother got himself killed
>Adam got himself killed because 'lol hate'
>Adam caused a huge fucking crisis because 'lol hate'
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>>172554862
When I fully realized how much gameplay time 9S got.
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>>172559351
Showing some of the emotional aftermath of Project Gestalt's failure with the other android's pointless scapegoating the twins in hopes of finding a reason for humanity's extinction where there was no good or satisfying reason to be found.

>>172559587
I choose to believe that there was enough of them left for an Ending E repair-job.
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>>172558391
what a bunch of horseshit

the only ones interested in 9s are 2b and 21o, where the fuck do people get ideas of a2 wanting 9s or anyone else for that matter?
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>>172560456
Ending E only brings back 2B, 9S and A2. Everyone else is dead and they have to live with the guilt of that and knowing their entire existence is a lie that served no purpose. Also the fact that they know the truth about humanity and the war, a truth the machine illuminati doesn't want to get out.
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>>172560759
Android illuminati, FUCK
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>>172560759
now that their struggles are over they can live happily ever after
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>>172560229
I thought Adam spawned Eve when you killed him in the orgy pit?
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>>172560759
They have time to kill and repair kits to spare.


Also, I think Jackass found the info on the truth and forwarded it to everyone who still has wifi, so I guess they'll cross that bridge when they come to it.
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>>172561034
He did, except in the beginning they looked exactly the same. They're twins with different haircuts, like Devo and Popo.
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>>172561034
Yup, out of his ribs.

DO YOU GET IT?! EVE CAME OUT OF ADAM'S RIBS.
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>>172561098
if they survived the red virus they will die of idleness

>>172560759
YoRHa will likely be remade in 400 years by whoever was left on earth/the moon
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>>172560229
Adam talks all this shit about hate, but he displays exactly the opposite of hate in his interactions with the androids, and with his ever-present thirst for knowledge. His interest and obsession with becoming human reflects his strong desire to understand and be like them. Despite his fascination with human conflict and hate, he never actually develops his own combat skills beyond the very basics he learns in his first encounter with the androids, choosing instead to delve into learning about human literature, religion, and architecture. His physical mannerisms toward both 9S and 2B are very intimate and almost sexual, such as when he taunts 2B by cupping 9S's chin in his hand, or when 2B runs him through and Adam holds her head close to his chest. You could interpret those gestures as ones of love, contrasting the antagonistic relationship he holds with androids in general.

That's Adam's whole thing. He was born from a bunch of machines who were delving into the concept of love, hence the machine orgy. Those same machines who had been practicing love for who knows how long suddenly encountered their hated enemies, the androids. Being overwhelmed with hatred while being shaped for love confused the machines immensely and caused an error overflow, which resulted in being the spark of miracle that was the birth of Adam and Eve, machines who could feel both love and hate without running into a logic bomb.

So what Adam valued above all was both love and hate, because they're the flip-sides of the same coin.
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>Preorder OST from Amazon.co.jp, straight from Amazon itself
>Just arrived
>Open it up
>No Hacking Tracks included

What the fuck.
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>>172558665
Well, that would be really handy. Or at least unlock close range chest hacking for 2B and A2.
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So, I'm on Emil's first fight at level 76. I can stay alive pretty easily, and mixing hacking and counters brings his health down quite fast.

That said, he does that blast attack when he's almost dying, and I can't seem to evade it in any way, and I don't think I can deal enough damage to kill him while he's charging. Am I missing something here?
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>>172558665
I understand them wanting to make switching perspectives a story-driven novelty. But I wish we could unlock being able to switch between characters freely post-game.
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>>172561284
That's actually a great observation. I thought it was strange how he hugged 2B after she practically gutted him, but now his unfortunately low screentime makes a lot more sense.
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>>172561535
The spinning laser attack?

Yeah, I think that's either a matter of trying to dodge around behind him, or just healing up enough so you can tank it.
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>>172561681
that would screw with quests
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>>172561103
>>172561136
So maybe Eve is mellow because he didn't fight 2b and 9s and adam is a raging autist because the first thing he experienced was pain followed shortly by death?
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>>172561338
you have to buy from squeenix.
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>>172529963
Just finished ending E as well. Deleted my save in order to help some random person. This game brings the most beautiful thing in humanity.
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>>172561827
I think it's more of a shockwave? Can't really tell to be honest since I just die instantly, but he charges up an orange looking blob in front of him.
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>>172538383
You mean remasters? DoD1 would need a full remake, the ground gameplay and the short music loops are fucking terrible. If they could do a remake with Platinum I think it could be pretty great, since it would make the combat at least feel very satisfying, making the player like killing enemies much like Caim does.
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>>172561851
Not if they treated switching characters/skillsets like changing accessories.
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>>172562361
get koei to do the remake. The developers of Dynasty Warriors remaking a ripoff of Dynasty warriors would be funny
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>>172560659
pod 042 mentions that A2 seems unusually concerned about 9S' well-being when he falls off a tower before the Auguste fight

it's because 2B's memories are bleeding into A2's, and that would include how much she deeply loves 9S. i don't think it would actually make A2 want to fuck him but there's enough to go on to joke about it
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>>172562171
Ah, then I'm not sure.

I ended up having to grind for several levels before I was able to take or do any damage with him.
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Finally encountered an infected body.
Noticed the health bar on corpse before repairing it and found it weird.
Attacked me immediately after fixing it.
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>>172562447
That would probably work pretty well, too. But honestly, if the combat could make it feel as satisfying to slice up enemies as MGR, that would work great for DoD1
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>>172560759

The game is about both the Machines and Androids realising that the purpose they were created for (War) is based on lies and accepting that they have to find some other purpose to live for. At least thats how i understand it
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>>172562361
As unlikely as it is, I wouldn't mind a Drakengard 1 Director's Cut of sorts. Cutting out some of the censorship and putting in some of the things that got trimmed down the first time around.

And make requirements for weapon collection less terrible and nonsensical.
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>>172561925
Honestly, part of me would really like to have the droids bump into Eve somewhere without him being immediately hostile; just like 'hey guys just getting some more of this weird 'clothes' shit'

As a side note about mellow and rage; many people in the game lose their shit when someone they care about is in danger/killed. This game is about existentialism, and a big theme is friends and family.

2B lost her shit because 9S was missing/tortured.
9S lost his shit because 2B was dead.
Eve lost his shit because Adam was dead.
Pascal lost his shit because his villagers were dead and his kids were in danger.
Devola and Popola lose their shit whenever one of them is hurt.
The E unit lost her shit because her friend was dead, and hadn't known she did it yet.
A2 lost her shit because her friends got killed.
Anemone lost her shit because her friends got killed, but mellowed out over time, unlike A2.

Hell, the original Nier doomed all of mankind to extinction because his daughter was missing.
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>>172562584
>I'mAGenius/OhNo.jpg
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>>172561975
That's weird, I can see a couple of reviews on Amazon mentioning the Hacking Tracks as if they got it in their delivery...
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>tfw I haven't touched Automata in a week but I'm here every day
I probably just don't want to 100% and have a reason to move forward.
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>>172562584
This can actually happen? Holy shit.
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am I stupid for pronouncing it auto-mata
someone keeps telling me it's pronounced ah-tomata
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>>172563276
>tfw Age of Mythology taught you the proper pronounciation decades ago
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>>172563276
Well from what I've seen Japanese people tend toward the former while English speakers tend toward the latter. English speakers pronounce automata the same way the pronounce automaton. (Awe-ta-ma-tawn) -> (Awe-ta-ma-ta)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kis8NJrO6vA
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It should be illegal to review a game without finishing the story.
It's like refusing to eat a meal because it doesn't start with desert.
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>>172563641
These kind of autists would review Half Minute Hero after first credits roll or MGS2 after the Tanker
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>>172563812
>or MGS2 after the Tanker

That's basically what this is.
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Question: Do you get the all endings cheevo if you have all but Ending E and after you prompt to delete your save?
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>>172563641
Private enterprises should be allowed to have their own standards, bet hey high or low. It's the job of people who consume that media to point out when it's shit and refuse to support it until it gets better.

But yeah, fuck reviewers who don't properly finish reviews, especially for story-heavy content. Their review is shit and shouldn't be taken seriously.
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>>172562972
It's been over a week since I finished the game and I still haven't managed to play anything after that. I even tried to play some good ol' Panzer Dragoon but my emulator shat the bed so I can't even do that. I can't bring myself to play anything else, there's only emptiness. Took me many days to be able to go back to work efficiently too.

>>172563276
Auto-mata is the greek pronunciation as far as I know, and latin languages also pronounce it like that. Everyone else says otomata including japs, but it's not necessarily wrong I think.
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>>172564112
You have to read just like you read the other games name. Isn't it obvious?
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Reading is for fags.
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>>172562093
Has anyone tried backing up their save first?
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>>172564780
Good.
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>>172563592
It should obviously mirror the pronunciation and emphasis of automaton but anyone who truly cares should also obviously castrate themselves.
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>>172562417
>its as easy as switching OS chips
fuck me i didnt thought of that
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>>172563641
Same people consider the new Zelda a 10/10. It's a good game, but definitely not without its issues. Yet the reviewers are very superficial.
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Just finished my second playthru. I think I may have had more fan than during the first, which is weird as hell. Admittedly, the port issues and the ensuing pcfag shitfit I threw really dampened the first half of the game down on the first playthrough.
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>>172564097
This dude gets it, the rest of you are dumb babies as usual.
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>>172564986
Only Japanese pronunciation is correct.
Ah-tsu
Nainu-ehsu (close friends call him nainusu)
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>>172564097
>>172565585
Well and good if that would actually be happening, but people are retarded.
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>>172565038
Everytime I think about reading some "professional" reviews, I just remember Nier's Metacritic and it all goes away. I even worried for a second that Automata would be bad when I saw that 90/100 or something.

Only an idiot looks at reviews and scores as an indication of quality.
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>>172559536
The game is arguably more existentialist than nihilistic. It searches for meaning instead of establishing there isn't one. The conclusion (and prevailing theme) is that life is a struggle within a cycle, which is absurdism.
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>>172562584
Wait, so if someone dies as 2B from the virus portion they leave behind an infected corpse?

How does this work?
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>>172541847
>I had already bought it
>decides to watch LP anyway
Congratulations.
This is the stupidest post I have ever read.
It takes true skill to write something that stupid and not be shitposting.
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guys it's as easy as not looking at the fucking metacritic score and reviews, just stop this retarded /v/ habit
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>>172565876
Not too sure it works like that, i found one in the... god box, i think?

I was thinking more along the lines of some bodies being infected after route C started, but I didn't really try to repair many more after that
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>>172565932
Eh, it's up to them to decide how they want to consume media.

Even if they're doing it wrong.
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>>172562972
I've been filling my vidya time with Hekseville adventures. It's just the vacation the doctor ordered.

>>172563957
Yup. On the PS4 at least the trophy doesn't pop until after the save deletion choice.
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>>172565876
There's a random chance when you repair a body (not retrieve) it will be infected and attack you. Try going to Emil's cave and attempt to turn all the bodies into allies, at least half of them when I tried as A2 were infected. I think corrupted only applies to your own body, but I haven't seen one yet.
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>toying with rpcs3
>basically the 20th time I'm hearing WEISS YOU DUMBASS today
I'm gonna go mad.
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>Empty bodies being latched on to by something that makes them hostile
Hmm. Interesting.
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>>172558391
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I need a couple of answers guys. Who started the Yohra project? Why?
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>>172566718
Did you get all the endings?
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Quick question.
I've heard that at some point of the game your saves can be removed, what chooses I must evade if I don't want this to happen?
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>>172566718
Maybe the androids? Maybe the machines? The machines needed an eternal enemy to fight.
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>>172566847
It's a choice you consciously make, rather than a trick the game plays on you.
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>>172566847
It will ask you in plain English six times if you want to delete your save
All you have to say is "No"
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>>172566681
Keep it fag, I don't want it.
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>>172565876
It's a random chance.
I >>172562584 went to the same place again, and repaired the same body without it attacking me.
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>>172566847
You can't do that accidentally.
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>>172566964
Will I miss something important then?
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Who here picked 9S because what's the point anymore? Might as well destroy everything.

I feel like the truth turned me into Eve.
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>>172567041
Maybe. No one can make the choice for you. You must come to your own conclusions.
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>>172567041
If you don't then you'll never A2 kills the commander.
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>>172567041
If you suffer anxiety attacks from not knowing everything there is to know about a game, just keep in mind you can 100% the game after getting ending C. There is one ending you can unknowingly lock yourself out of on a save file, it's Y.

Best advice for you though is to just play the goddamn game. It's designed to be played blind.
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Why is the day one edition the only version of Nier I can find on the PSN store?
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>>172566818
Only the real ones.

>>172566919
T-that's not an answer, senpai..
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>>172567092
>Face the end of the world
>Crumple like a baby
laughing_nietzschian_ubermensches.jpg
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>>172567092
A2 because 9S is a dweeb who is boring to play as and he got annoying,
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>>172567092
Ending D is legit just way better than C. A2 just doesn't get enough time to herself to get the audience to latch on her as much, so her resolution is a lot weaker than Nines' who you've known for the entire game.
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>>172567092
The only people who didn't pick 9S are the ones who couldn't emphasize with 9S' world falling apart around him.
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>>172566681
Just noticed how much it looks like 9S was LITERALLY crucified.
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>>172567684
Nah m8 I think you mean figuratively. There's no cross.
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>>172567371
An unknown group of androids set up YoRHa in an attempt to boost android morale, which was going down because humanity wasn't around, robbing androids of a reason to fight.

With YoRHa being set up as this super high end top sikkrit cadre of androids protecting humans who are still totally on the moon, it was also designed to be destroyed. They'd last long enough for the lie to take root, but then be wiped out so no one would be able to find out it's a lie and no one would be able to disprove that humanity's still kicking on the moon.
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>>172567092
>Might as well destroy everything.
>A2 destroys more than 9S

Really makes me ticklish.
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>>172567969
>A2 chooses to destroy the tower for no reason
>even though the machines just want to fuck off and get away from the fighting
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>>172568134
>no reason
Machines are the enemy. N2 is a bastard.

Genocide is the solution.
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What's with the Black Box intel record anyways? The first part of it is a slightly different translation of the YoRHa Disposal record that is obtained later. Was it just some copy paste fuck up?
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>>172568134
Yeah, but given how the consciousness manifests as the girl in red, I have a suspicion that the Ark ends up on Midgard and somehow causes all the shit that happens in the Drakengard games, in which case C breaks the cycle.
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yo i'm about to play automata, i watched a longplay of nier and read some of grimoire nier but there's something i still don't understand, what the fuck is up with replicants? like, why is nier's replicant living 1300 years later? Also do replicants have babies even though they're just made up humans? i don't get it, if the corrisponding gestalt relapsing causes them to die how can a replicant that doesn't even have a gestalt do begin with even live?

i know that's a lot of questions that probably've been answered in these topics but i'm not reading them because i don't want to spoil me automata, sorry about that
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>>172568134
As far as she knew it was a cannon aimed at the moon.

I chose a2 right away and ending d is still my favorite.
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>>172568134
She was pretty much the same as 9S was at the end, just wanted to destroy every goddamn machine. 2B's memories may have softened her up a little bit, but that was her desire for a long while.
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At the end of the day there's no justifiable reason to be nice to machines.
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>>172568632
>I chose a character with no personality, backstory or development right away
Is it just because she has tits?
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>>172568134
>>172568632
It was a cannon, wasn't it? 9S mentions N2 changing their mind last minute.

To be honest, I feel like everything that 9S experiences during his last moments as potentially false. Our only knowledge of the Ark is through an android driven mad by emotional strife and a logic virus both, and that's while he's dying and slowly suffering the equivalent of brain damage.
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>>172569440
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>>172569394
>I chose a character with no personality, backstory or development right away

Terribly wrong.
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>>172569394
A character with no character is a better character than 9S.
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>>172568134
>machines want to run away after destroying everything

Oh no you don't. A2's coming for that machine booty.
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>>172569394
I felt most connected to A2 in that scene, so that's what I chose.
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>>172569697
Don't be so rough on him. 9S.. had a hard life.
I hated him for the first 35 or so hours with the game, became more tolerant for the next 10 and now past 75 hours I actually kind of like him.
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>>172567092
Why would someone not choose a character that's starting to resemble Caim?
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>>172568134
>Just letting invaders leave

I bet you think hiroshima and nagasaki were a mistake
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>>172569394
It's because she was in the right and sane while S9 was a suicidal autist screeching loudly.
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How many of you sacrificed your data?
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>>172569964
This is the worst meme. 9S's edgy teenager persona doesn't even begin to approach Caim.
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>>172563812
They probably think MGSV requires 52 playthroughs.
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>>172529415
As I'm nearing the end of my first playthrough is there anything I should do to prepare for the second one as 9S?

I have 2 quests left - Father Servo (fuck fighting him at lvl 35 when he is 60) and the Half Wit Inventor.

Do I spend all of my money on the Inventor to complete the quest during my first playthrough? I invested 41k for now but I know he wants a lot more.

Should I buy weapons from vendors like the Twins and Emil and the Resistance Vendor now or wait for the second playthrough? I will be able to buy them right?
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>>172569394
As much as I liked 9S as a character, I felt like he was too far gone after having given in to grief and hatred. A2 tries to reason with him and he still chooses to fight, ignoring newly received information. Most importantly, he was infected with the logic virus. In that situation, fuck yeah I will support A2.
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>>172570062
When wasn't 9S right? He wanted to kill all machines too. And don't forget that A2 is still deserter and he got direct order from Commander to eliminate her. So killing her was right too.

>>172570275
Progress for those 2 quests carries over. You won't lose any money you invested and Father Servo will still be at level 60.
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>>172570275
Just play the game fucking hell
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>>172570229
>9S's edgy teenager persona
So, Caim?
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>>172570275
You don't need them, but they have their own stories and if you aren't buying weapons you should at least be upgrading the ones you do have. Route C will be tougher than A or B, and you'll want upgraded weapons then.
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>>172570448
Oh great I'll wait then. What about buying all of the weapons? Should I now or will I be able to buy everything later?
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>>172570275
The inventor quest remembers how much you gave him the first time around. And all the weapons will still be available to buy. Just remember that Emil's inventory changes based on his location.
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>>172570483
You wish bitch.
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>>172570473
I am but I like to do everything I can always.

>>172570493
I want them for the trophy and yeah most of the stuff I use is lvl 3 already. It would be lvl 4 if I had any machine parts.
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>>172566156
Why bother buying the game then?
>>172566347
I tried going back to gravity rush, which was one of my favorite games but all I could think was that the gameplay was slow and far too simple and the repetitive music was really annoying.
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>>172570557
There's one missable questline for Emil, the ending boss. Everything else isn't missable. Play the goddamn game.
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>>172570730
Alright, so tell me what the difference is between a blood thirsty psycho, and an oil thirsty psycho.
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>>172570641
Yeah I know about that. Took me an hour to get 4 weapon +6 chips from him to fuse it to +8. Fuck him, seriously.
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>>172570828
>Gravity Rush
>Ever one of your favorite games
I can relate to having "sitting stupefied in front of a screen with zero meaningful interaction occurring" as a favorite hobby because I spend so much time here.
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What exactly is the logic virus? How does it affect them/what does it do?
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Who loved 9S more 21O or 2B?
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>>172570938
Tell me their similarities are. It's gonna such an embarrassingly trivial list that you probably won't even post it.
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>>172571213
N2.
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>>172554862
ISN'T THAT RIGHT [spolier]KAINE[/spoiler]?
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>>172571245
They're edgy.
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>>172571532
Caim isn't edgy.
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>>172570828
I can definitely see that. I myself enjoy the simplistic nature of it, especially after Automata. It just feels cosy and relaxing. Plus Kat's my kindred spirit.

I have Yakuza 0 lined up next, I just needed something light first.
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>>172567382
>end of the world
Not even that. I just felt intense feelings of disdain towards 2B for betraying me.
I'm over that now. It was just a heat of the moment thing.
Reading all the posts about how it was effecting 2B made me simpathize with her.
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>>172571213
2B loved him more. She probably fucked him several times too.
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>>172571662
Someone hasn't played Drakengard.
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>>172558391
>>Devola and Popola

>Fucking anything but each other
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>>172571857
Nier knows from first-hand experience that Devola tends to get kind of "friendly" when she gets drunk.
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>>172571857
>9 thousand years without tasting a dick
Literally impossible. Even I would manage to lose virginity if I lived that long.
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>>172572184
I wouldn't.
Step your game up.
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>>172572184
>Being unable to save your virginity for a human dick instead
They don't make androids like they used to.
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I regret not erasing my save the first time. The comments left this time were bad, but it is my own fault in the end.
Putting ending E after completing Emil's Determination would probably have been good though.
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>>172572184
>>172572284
If I had been alive that long, I would have sucked a dick at some point just to keep things interesting.
Sexuality be damned.
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>>172572184
Not looking like Emil you wouldn't.
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>>172558391
>t. 9S
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the Japanese translation of Automata still refers to the alien machines as Biomachines like in the novellas?

I thought it was kind of odd that they were just referred to as "machines" in-game after reading Flames of Prometheus.
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>>172571687
I think my feelings towards GR might have been influenced by the depressive state of mind Automata put me in.
I should play MGR. It has the platinum gameplay without the deprssiveness.
If I do that, I should be able to enjoy GR again. It was the last game I played before playing GR the first time after all.
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>>172574083
The word they use just means machine.
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How many pods are there? I just got one by fishing.
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>>172574083
they say 機械生命体(machine lifeform)
sometimes they just say 機械(machine)
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>>172574294
3
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>>172574294
4
your camera is the fourth one
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>>172574156
>>172574407
Thanks. Though now I'm curious if "biomachine" was ever used, or if its just a variation of "machine lifeform" in fan translations.
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SO CAN THEY SEE OUT OF THE BLINDFOLDS OR WHAT!? LIKE THEIR HEADS TURN TO "LOOK" AT STUFF! WHAT THE FUCK!?
I WAS WAITING ALL GAME FOR THEM TO THROW THAT LIL BIT OF LORE AT ME AND I DIDN'T SEE SHIT!
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>>172568981
They don't have a reason to be nice to you either. You just kind of all happen to exist under the same roof.
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>play the game a second time
>only kill a couple of extra enemies during the whole playthrough
>lose only a couple hundred exp total via deaths
>never use exp gain chips

>during route A, complete every sidequest except Emil's Determination, the last two Father Servo qs, Half-Wit Inventor, Lord of the Valley and Parade Escort because these were too high level
>total quests done exactly 50%, finish route A at lvl35
>during route B, finish every side quest available except Emil's Determination
>total quests done exactly 80%, finish route B at lvl50
>during route C, finish every side quest except Emil's Determination and that 4S data collecting thing
>finish route C at lvl60
It's almost like this was the intended way to progress through the game.
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I've checked the wiki and I have all the sidequests completed but for some reason my percent is stuck at 98%. What gives?
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The fuck is that. Why would the aliens make mecha sharks?

Is it safe to sell all of my fish?
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>>172575368
The blindfolds have a display on their interior.
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>>172575496
They found episodes from shark week
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>>172575425
levels were a mistake
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>>172575370
>They don't have a reason to be nice to you either
And they aren't.
So might as well kill them.
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>>172575496
Stuff that says can be sold for money is in 99% of cases free money
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>>172575930
You would make for an example YoRHa soldier, anon. Keep up the good fight.
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>>172575496
Eat the mackerel.
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>>172576074
Pet the pod.
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How many times I can fuck up Parade Escort before it's ogre?
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>>172575368
They're described as high-tech visors.
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>>172576429
As many times as you want
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>>172575482
Did you unlock the secret quest at the shopping center that pops up after finding and fully upgrading every weapon?
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>get to level 93
>even debug room against 50 lv99 2Bs is easy as cake
i guess im finished with the game now
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>>172530692
お前は2Bを…犯したいと、思ってるんだろう?
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>>172575496
>Why would the aliens make mecha sharks?
A few of the fish actually have pretty interesting info in the archive data. I think some of them were developed during the centuries of conflict, but a lot of them just integrated into the environment after acclimating to surviving with real fish for so long.
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>>172576969
>Ywn be crushed to death with the thighs of 50 lvl99 2Bs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNwICMDMV-g
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>>172575496
>bare butt pleb

the skirt is for true patricians
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>>172576971
What did he mean by this?
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>>172577825
That kanji has more than one meaning
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>>172577825
2b belongs in a lunatic asylum
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>finish route A
>look forward to going through again to do quests I missed and grind some loot
>can't play 2B again yet
>experience ruined

Wow 0/10 game blows
>>
Does anyone have the image of yoko taro holding a knife over 2b and 9s dolls saying he will write a happy ending?
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>>172577990
You'll only play her again once for the briefest time in Route C and you can't do side quests with her.

Next time you can play her properly is when you unlock chapter select.

Enjoy 9S!
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>>172568497
I looked at a video of a jp playthrough, and that disposal record text is not in the black box record. It just goes from the SS confidentiality text to a main section labeled [Black Box] in japanese. English version spoils the record that's obtained later in the game, and 9S only comments on the black box part of it. It was weird when playing through the game because he acts shocked when you obtain the YoRHa Disposal intel when its text you've already read.
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>>172577825
Weird, my translator cleaned that up a bit differently.
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i just realized that A2 isn't actually wearing shorts....the skin peeled off and she's just walking around with her butthole exposed....
how many times do you think she's been raped by machines?
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>>172554719
Dialogue that bothered me:
JP: nani...are? (what's that?)
EN: Well that's new.

Early in route C when the bots were getting their EMP blast ready:
JP: nan no oto? (what's that sound?)
EN: What's that?

This one threw me for a sec since the subs had me focusing on the bots' appearance. I felt for the hearing-impaired on that one.

>>172554738
I hear you, anon. There isn't enough non-lewd art of 2B.

>>172554862
This >>172554975

>>172555532
It put a dent in my motivation, too. Keep going, anon. At least see things through to the end for her!

>>172555718
Nearly everyone was already dead when I got to them. Maybe it's because I had shock wave chip installed. Geez, that took a lot from the experience if so.

>>172555746
I quite liked that too.
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>Because this is the world my friend tried to save!

Who is he referring to?

Kaine and Nier were never interested in saving the world, just Yonah. They actively damned the world.
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>>172579116
Read the novellas that came out leading to automata
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>>172579020
I think those parts of her body are just what the synthetic skin is colored (for modesty's sake I assume) but it definitely looks like her "skin" is just sections of whatever heat/cut/wear/puncture resistant material androids are made of. I wonder if she has any precision feeling in her skin, or if that's only something models with seamless skin get.
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So did they pull an MGS2 with 9S actually being the main character like Raiden was?
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>>172579319
Highly inaccurate comparison for a number of reasons but hey you compared thing to thing aren't you insightful.
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>>172554719

I could be wrong here but I'm pretty sure during the robot orgy one of the machines is saying "oppai suki" and the dub translates it as 'feed me'
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>>172579456

Insightful enough to release a review for the game :^)
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>>172579319
It's similar in a way, yes. Both Snake and 2B were pretty much the characters everyone was expecting to play as and Japs love to toy with people's expectations. Although Automata seems to do that mostly to fuck with you and for story reasons, while in MGS2 it was a key element of its theme.

Also, coincidence or not, in both cases we end up playing as the cute boy.
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>>172556598
Crits are massive, you'll notice it easily. Like 4x damage i think.
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I was under the impression that during the bits where you hack A2 the black boxes formed Angelic letters, but I've been trying to figure out what they spell out in pic related using the following site, but can't quite determine what glyphs are shown here:

http://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/angelic.htm

I've used the same table to look at the letters "Simone" is written in during her fight on Route A, and it vaguely lines up with her name, similar to how katakana approximate English, just using Angelic glyphs.
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>>172575103
Finding that ruined Pod in route C had me thinking I'd get a fourth one, but it was just a Pod program.
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>>172576971
Nope, 犯し , including the し、only takes up two of the three characters shown there.

That'd be too lewd anyway
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>>172580579
Did you hack her four times?
It makes sense after that.
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>>172581350
There's only two characters and it fits if you write it phonetically.
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>>172581698
I did. So those other stages are just the distorted ones you see on the edges here?

Last thread another Anon was calling them Angelic glyphs, that's why I went to take those screenshots. Guess that was wrong?
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>>172561338
>>172561975
>>172562908
my amazon copy also does not have a 4th disc

they probably had some gaijin-detecting thing in place.
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>>172561338
>>172561975
>>172562908
>>172582038
I just got my delivery from amazon a couple minutes ago.
It brought the hacking tracks bonus.
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>>172582027
I think it was left intentionally distorted so that the player wouldn't figure it out until the final stage.
At least that seems to make sense to me.
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>>172582313
da fug

was it a different page?? or a certain time limit?
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>>172561338
>>172562908
>>172582038
>>172582313
There were two different amazon articles for the OST. As I understood it, one includes the bonus cd and the other doesn't, regardless whether you "preorder" it or not.
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>>172582849
Yea what this guy >>172582868
said
You made sure to get that says 早期購入特典あり, right?
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>>172582868
here

with the bonus
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%97%A9%E6%9C%9F%E8%B3%BC%E5%85%A5%E7%89%B9%E5%85%B8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8A-NieR-Automata-Original-Soundtrack-%E3%82%AA%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B8%E3%83%8A%E3%83%AB-%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A6%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/dp/B01LTI9I72

and without it I think
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%97%A9%E6%9C%9F%E8%B3%BC%E5%85%A5%E7%89%B9%E5%85%B8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8A-NieR-Automata-Original-Soundtrack-%E3%82%AA%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B8%E3%83%8A%E3%83%AB-%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A6%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/dp/B01LTI9I72
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>>172582785
It does. Would've been a neat way to hide some little message, but you're probably right.
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>>172583096
whoops here is the one without it
https://www.amazon.co.jp/NieR-Automata-Soundtrack-%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/dp/B01N7TGP1L
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So I FINALLY got Emil to spawn in front of the resistance camp, and he wasn't selling any weapons. Just +6 versions of his chips. The +6 chips is kinda cool but how do I get him to load with his weapon inventory? Anyone else had trouble with this?
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>>172582868
>>172583017
>>172583096
fuggggggggg

>This seller for the item you selected does not deliver to your selected location.

sheeeeeeit

oh well then.
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>>172583303
Yea that's a third party seller since Amazon doesn't sell it directly anymore.
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How I git here??
Thanks bois.
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>>172582313
Is there anything inside the OST booklet?
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>>172583684
Are you for real? Kill yourself.
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>>172583684
Fall down and dash and/or jump to the left.
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Guys
but what happens to 4S
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>>172584249
ded all ded :(
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>>172583754
A message from Keiichi, Yoko, Takahisa, & Yosuke.
Also the lyrics for the Weight of the World in JP and English
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>>172583684
I did it with precise gliding before i knew you could just do air attacks to reset dash timer.
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>>172584249
Considering he's a shota in a Yoko Taro game, I'd say it's pretty much guaranteed he eventually goes nuclear at some point for not having a strong YoRFu to dominate him.
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>>172584249
Not as high-spec so he succumbs to the virus.
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Why didn't Manah just ask for a psychologist?
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>>172584548
>precise
lmao yeah that's a really "precise" jump

whew this fucking general
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>>172585120
The idea of having a psychologist in the Drakengard universe sounds hilarous. DoD4's story should go around that.
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>>172584548
>precise gliding
There's nothing precise about pressing dash then holding glide to get in there.

>do air attacks to reset dash timer
I didn't know about that, but there's multiple ways to gain air distance. Mainly the two pod attacks that are designed specifically for air movement.
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What's your favorite picture of 2B?
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>>172586834
>>
Every day I've had a song stuck in my head while I'm at work.
Today it's that melancholic song that plays after some of the resistance side quests.
Yesterday it was the Simone fight music.
The day before it was the park overworld music.
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Okay what the fuck am I missing here? Been wasting an hour to look for this god damn quest.
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>>172587092
Teleport to the bunker.
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So what was up with the picturebook stuff in route B anyway? I assumed it was fluff but then there was the bit with 9S hearing the yoke of iron dialogue before it happened.
>>
I want to suck Kaine's throbbing, pulsing, meaty dick, just to make her feel better about its existence
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>>172587254
They're stories from the machine's POV. The one with the volcano god is a direct callback to Beepy/P-33/MechaJesusKatamariDamacy and tells how the machines gained consciousness.
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>>172587552
I want to suck Kaine's throbbing, pulsing, meaty dick, just to satisfy my urges.
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>>172586834
Can't get enough.

>>172586449
There are two pod _attacks_ for air movement??
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>>172587716
that too
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has anyone reuploaded the ost yet with the tracks retitled?
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>>172587182
Holy shit I love you anon
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>>172587552
Only if she's uncircumcised
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>>172587254
I don't think it's before it happened, I think he hears it at the exact time it does happen since it's the moment he wakes up out of hacking due to 2B's distress call (which she issues right as the religious machines go berserk.)

I took it as implying 9S was already somehow jacked into the machine network at that point, foreshadowing him being an easier target for the virus during the Eve fight, but the unit data for the machines at the factory says they are cut off from the network, so I'm not entirely sure anymore.
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>>172587807
>There are two pod _attacks_ for air movement??
I can't tell if that is sarcasm. R1+X for pod fling, and Square or Triangle while gliding for spin kick. The fling auto targets the nearest enemy and does damage too.
>>
What's the life expectancy of a replicant?
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I just honestly deleted all my data guys
;______; I just need to tell someone I'm feeling very sad right now and yet so happy I helped someone
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>>172588872
You did a good thing anon.
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How do I use debug mode? I'm pressing R2 + left part of the touch pad but that just opens the menu.
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>>172586449
>There's nothing precise about pressing dash then holding glide to get in there.
Where do you fit a dash there? I just glided all the way from right side and it was precise.
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>>172586834
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>>172588267
Ah, spin kick. I saw it happen once or twice but couldn't figure out wtf I'd pressed. Thanks.
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>>172588872
Don't worry. It will take only 20 hours to get back to where you were from the beginning (including 5 endings with 95% of all sidequests).
Then you can refuse to delete your save the 2nd time without feeling bad.
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>>172587552
I'm surprised Kaine's cock didn't get more love in Nier, do shemale/futa fetishists don't exist there?

She'd fit right in modern world.
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>>172589223
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>>172589887
I did it in completely different fashion so yeah.
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Fuggit.

Any giantess or fetish content in general for N:A yet?
>>
I feel conflicted.
Over the years I've gotten the impression that my friend can't emotionally connect with anything fictional.
On one hand I want as many people to play Automata as possible but on the other hand I think the experience would be wasted on him and he doesn't deserve to play it.

Also he never finishes games and thinks batman is the epitome of story telling.

Should I deter him from playing it?
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Hey guys, I'm a little but late to the party but,

Emil (Despair)
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>>172590219
someone who probably isn't going to get past ending A shouldn't play it
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>>172590109
I've seen some 2fat images posted on /v/
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Need help again on finding this (last) one. Your kindness is much appreciated.
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>We're gonna shout it out loud
>Even if our words seem meaningless
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>>172590742
Did you upgrade all the weapons to level 4?
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>>172590747

>A,B,C,D
>Weight of the World is nice but Ashes of Dreams is way better
>E
>Weight of the World is the absolute perfect song for the situation in both tone and lyrics
>>
>>172591381
Yeah, I also felt like that.
Not even I could help but tear up during the final credits of E and the following scene.
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>>172591381
>route E's Weight of the world goes through every language version as people from all around the world sacrifice their data to help you
Why is it raining in front of my computer?
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>>172590747
>listening the official version while working
>eh, doesn't seem different than the game rips
>language changes in the middle of chorus
>>
I want to see 9S have awkward confused sex with 210.
>>
Have you brought Glory to Mankind today, /ndg/?
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>>172591932
Each ending has a different version of the music, anon.
Endings A has the english, B has the japanese, C and D have the french one and E has the mixed version.
>>
So I just finished the last ending.

One complaint I have is I don't feel many of the bosses were really that inspired. The Opera Singer was my favorite boss and I don't really feel any of the bosses were as interesting as her.

Especially the final fight. 9S having hacking was cool, but otherwise they were pretty simple fights. I suppose it would have been harder on hard mode, but unless the AI was different it probably would have turned out the same because I never really got hit.

Anyway, in short I didn't feel any of the bosses were quite as interesting as the opera singer boss, except maybe that one boss after you kill 9S's operator. The big brother bot, he was neat
>>
How do I get into this series? Where do I start?
>>
>>172592493
Well it depends

Honestly, Automata is a fine place to start. The important stuff will be explained in game, they made it so newbies will still be able to jump in.

Basically the further back you go, the more shoddy the gameplay you have to put up with. Nier's gameplay is just really really meh and Drakengard's gameplay is pretty bad.

So really how much you want to see/ experience is based on how much you are willing to put up with.
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>>172591932
That's the End of YoRHa version.

Easily the best one.
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>>172592696
>>172592493
But honestly people play Taro games for the storylines, not the gameplay so yeah.

It really is just how much are you willing to put up with for batshit crazy (in a good way) stories.

Especially because they all have at least some repetition due to their multiple endings.
>>
>>172592696
>>172592823
Primarily interested in the atmosphere and story.
>>
So the endings that aren't just jokes are A B and C right?
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>>172592908
D, E as well get cutscenes.
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>>172591141
No? How is that related to the quest? What is the quest name anyways?
>>
>>172592254
>>172592764
I know, the languages are just mixed differently than in the E credits. Probably so they can keep it a bit shorter.
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>>172592885
Well if you are willing to put up with the gameplay, start with Drakengard 1.
2 is optional since it wasn't by Taro.
Then just go from there.

Automata is really the only one that feels very good to play, but if you don't mind rough gameplay, start with Drakengard 1 then play Nier, then Automata.
>>172592992
A through E are the serious endings.
>>
>>172592404

Agreed. to be honest even the original Nier had more interesting looking bosses. half a dozen android/Adam&Eve fights and like 5 fights with that Spiderbot kinda water down things.
>>
>>172593056
I have a GTX950 and a PS4 (non-pro).

Which version of Automata should I get?
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>>172593151
It's not really that optimized, even on the PS4 you'll get some frame drops. The PC version is the same, but there are community fixes for it, and they hinted an incoming patch, so pick whichever you feel most comfortable in.
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>>172593284
Will my PC be able to run it? That's my biggest concern, really.
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>>172593151
I'm not sure.

There should be a demo available on PSN to try so you could play that to see how well it runs for you there. Dunno if PC has a demo
>>
>>172593151
>>172593338
PS4 runs at 900p.
You could easily get a good 900p experience with 670-770 and anything better already puts you a level above.
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>>172593338
Should have no problems with FAR (the mod being talked about)
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>>172593551
What's FAR? I'm assuming that that's an unreleased fan-made mod that fixes the FPS?
>>
>>172593151
I have no issue on plain PS4. The most I remember is getting the "Loading Map" screen once.
But also I'm not a grafix whore.
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>>172593338
Yes. I think you'd get stable 60 on 1080p, and you can probably put shadows and other settings on low if you can't.
Use the mod or reduce the resolution if you want even more.
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>>172593628
Its a mod/patch thing thats in the OP

It helps but the game is still pretty intensive even with it.

I had to run at medium/low to get a decent speed that still had framedrops, and I can run dark souls 3 at max settings
>>
>>172593284
Is it true the PC version is missing a cutscene regarding 9S after the choice of leaving or staying? I saw one anon mention it and I've been wondering.

>>172593423
PC version doesn't have a demo. I have not played the PS4 version nor demo, but don't think the demo will reflect the framedrops that are experienced later in the game.
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>>172593737
>>172593698
Cool, thanks for answering my questions. Gonna go to my sociology class now, then play some Nier when I get back. :)
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>>172593628
Fix Automata Resolution, it's released and being updated. Yes, it's a fan mod.

The game devs said they were looking into the issues.
>>
>>172593628
Released fan-made mod. Fix Automata Resolution. Initially it just fixed the fullscreen bug (no matter what you do it upscales from 900p, with FAR it runs at native), but now it has extra features such as reducing the largest performance hit for practically no performance loss (30% boost on high end cards, 60-100% on low end) and even a beta framerate unlocker.
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>>172593739
Well when I started it on PC, the factory area made my game run like shit. It was super slow. It wasn't until I started adjusting visuals and install FAR afterward that I got a decent framerate.

And it was only the fight against that giant scrap snake that really caused my FPS to drop later on.
>>
>>172561284
Hate is not the opposite of love. Apathy or indifference would be it's opposite.
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How do I JoJo on them hoes?
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>>172593739
You mean on ending D? I don't remember any missing scene there.
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>>172593903
Apathy and indifference is a middle ground between all feelings.
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>>172593995
Play the video at 0.25, see each individual move they are doing. Work your way to copying them.

Once you like the lengths of combos you can do from plain copying you should start building a basic idea about what each move does and why it works (should come naturally), then you can start to experiment and make your own combos.

Though that's more guilty gear and blazblue than jojo though. No posing.
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>>172592764
>that transition from the chiptune version to the actual song
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>>172593995
>Immediately goes from spear into hammer
Stacking recovery chips, I assume?
Or just some debug memery that has no relevance outside of Debug Mode?
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Hi guys
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>>172594238
I was referring specifically to the move at the timecode I linked (36 seconds in).

Thank you for the earnest reply, though.
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>>172594396
try "switches pods mid combo like you're intended to in normal gameplay" no fancy tricks required
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>>172594396

Haven't watched the video all the way though, but I think different pods have different ability cooldowns.

>>172594464

Shit. Timecode didn't work and it started from the beginning. Thought it was a general question. Idunno, haven't played with fists yet
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>>172593739
Just checked a youtube version of ending D, I don't remember seeing Pascal there, since I killed him, afterall, but it was otherwise the same.
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>>172594132
>>172594679
I'm wondering about what this anon said >>172442378
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Is 9S alive after ending C?
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>>172594679
He's talking about the scene that happens if he stays. He looks toward the sky, says "Ha, so that's where you were", 2B..." and dies.
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>>172594856
>>172594885
Then it's bullshit, I saw that scene on the PC.
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>>172594606
My issue is pod ability cool downs. I thought they shared a cool down.

>>172594608
>but I think different pods have different ability cooldowns.
I swear my experience has been the opposite, but I'm not in a position to say conclusively.

This is why I shouldn't have deleted my save, I can't just check for myself and I haven't been in the mood to start my new save file again.
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>>172595087
Can guarantee they don't have shared cooldowns barring pod ability charges which in-universe use all three pods simultaneously.
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>>172594863
The Pods say all black box signals are gone before Ending E, so no.
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>>172594986
Maybe I missed it because I don't recall seeing it.

>>172594885
Fuck. I don't remember this either.
I chose to leave, but went back in the archives to see what'd happen if I chose to stay. Damn, I might be in line for two more playthroughs.

Thanks anons.
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>>172595087
Each pod has its own cooldown. The other pods cooldowns are only used when you charge the skill since the other pods help in.
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>>172594885

What the fuck I did both of the 9S options and didnt see that
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Guys talk to me
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need new thread
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>>172595338
>>172595596
You can't see it if you just chapter select to the last fight.
There's a hidden trigger before it you have to activate and keep playing from that point on without chapter selecting forward.
Much like how the pascal shop works.
If you just load up as 9S during Route C Pascal won't be there. You have to chapter select to the A2 factory defense part, erase her memories and then continue the story into 9S seamlessly.
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>>172595765
We're not even at the limit.

>>172595930
Thanks, anon.
Btw, Pascal's a dude. Surprised me too, initially.
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>>172596423
>Pascal's a dude
Shit yeah I always forget.
That's just what I naturally typed out.
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>>172593029
Final quest appears when you gather and upgrade all weapons.
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