/ndg/ - Nier/Drakengard General #43

First for 2Bx6O

Gay robot edition.

>>172473615
Honestly, I also just don't think the concept of big friend doing stuff for you with indirect controls translates to fun gameplay very well.

It kind of looked like they went to Kamiya and said "make us something with a giant animal friend that we can take on The Last Guardian with". Kamiya took forever trying to make the concept fun, TLG actually released, and the higher ups decided the moment had passed.

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>>172476642
Just the fact that machine murder-lust lives on.

I hope Taro's happy with the reception. He's had a strange journey with game development.

>>172477585


nth for What was the Programming language for N:A?

What was the video editing software?

>Game Creator Machine: Actually, I've sort of run out of ideas.
>I never knew how difficult it was to be a creative genius.
>Thats why I've decided to go out on top.
>Thank you for your support!

Reminder that this is the end for Yoko Taro games.

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>>172477585
>>172477675
Forgot image

>>172477585
Why was his reaction so retarded and edgy in this scene?

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Why do clickbait shit reviews make me so salty? I know I shouldn't bother, but they make me mad. Even more when they lower scores.....fuck.

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Warning: incoming butt

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>>172477897

tribute to Caim

>>172477897
Because he's literally Cuck Rage: The Character. Also androids get off to combat so that's probably the closest he'll ever be to ****ing 2B.

>>172477901
Don't even look at it if it bothers you so much. Why do you do this to yourself?

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2B AND 9S ARE FOR SWEET KISSING!!!!!!

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>>172477897
>machines mass producing the image of the one he loved to kill him
I mean, it's kind of a cruel slap in the face on top of everything else. Further dehumanizing 2B and the relationship that 9S had with her in favor of reminding him that they're just another pair of tools in a pointless war.

>>172477779
If he gets the money he literally said he'll remaster the Drakengard series, and that anything is possible.

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Any ideas if I can expect the level of story in Automata in Persona 5? I need to fill this empty void in me.

>don't watch the title screen video because I remembered how much shit was spoiled in the one NieR had
>watch it after getting all endings
>like 90% of it is clips and audio from Route C

Does Taro approve these before they get added or what

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>Drakengard 1 Ending E

Finally i'm free
What a garbage game, holy shit
Never again

This is Yoko Taro.Why are you trusting anything he says.

Obviously he's going to open a restaurant and retire exactly like he said he would.

>>172478226
I understand his despair. I just thought that particular line from him was edgy.

>>172478052
>Asking people who play Taro games why they hurt themselves.
You know why he does it Anon, we all do.

>>172478240

I can see him doing remasters for his older stuff but I'd be surprised if we get an actual new entry again.

>>172478328
>https://lparchive.org/Drakengard/

Congrats for wasting your time

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Welp, finally caught up on playthroughs of Drakengard 2.

I thought people were exaggerating, but Nowe's character arc was more of a mess than I expected it to be.

Caim and Angelus's role was actually pretty emotional though.

>>172478489
Well he kinda seems to have written himself into a corner with Automata, but then again it seemed a bit like that with NieR too.

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>>172478052
idk

>>172477897
Taro is an edgy child.

I mean, usually he channels it into something interesting, but you'll still get stuff like this once in a while because he's ultimately still a big edgy kid.

>>172478524
i wanted to experience it myself
i understood way too late that it was a mistake
at least i can strangle anyone who actually suggest playing it

>>172478562
DLC with Accord's creation/reformation of androids to glorify humanity across timelines.

DLC with previous 2B/9S missions with the obvious ending

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>>172478404
I think he lost emotional stability a few towers prior to that point.

>>172478694
This, I mean shit after hackerman tower he's already literally blowing fuses.

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>>172478489
>>172478562

The (true) ending of Automata is beautiful and I'd rather it be left alone. It's incredibly rare to get such a worthy sequel to a great game that I'd not count on it happening again. It's better to leave that saga closed outside of some small DLC maybe to expand on some elements already introduced rather than a whole new entry that could tarnish the conclusion I'm very content with personally.


I'd rather he worked on a whole new series and see what he comes up with.

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>>172478328
Did you find out that you can cheat your way through the final rhythm game by repeatedly pausing it? I doubt I would have gotten through otherwise.

>>172478895
After Drakengard 3 no rhythm game will ever worry me.

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>>172478810
I naively cling to the hope that we'll get some more answers to the unresolved questions regarding Accord, Angelus, and the Watchers in another game someday, but I'd be interested in seeing what kind of new series Taro could come up with.

>60
>A2
>Commander

So many best girls

>>172477675
>>172477848
PROPRIETARY.

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>>172478895
it's literally the first thing I did after seeing the more complicated patterns
in fact the entire latter half of the game was about me finding the lamest way to cheese the missions because actually trying to play the game was greeting me with 80 arbalests stunlocking me to death or 500 quintillions infinite dodge enemy that throw homing shots taking each a quarter of your health
i'll be even honest and say the rhythm game wasn't even that bad all considering

at least manah was nice

>>172478947
>Drakengard 3's rhythm game
Lord, I gave up on that one before making it halfway through it.

>>172478810
>a whole new series

He'll grab one of the joke endings from Automata and work off of that.

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>das3 dlc
>persona 5

haha I've gotten over this game, only took a month no biggie

>>172478524
>cheapening the experience by not enjoying the suffering

>>172479158

>not 21O
>not Jackass
>not Amnesia E-type
>not Pod 153

Didn't realize the previous thread was so old. Reposting
>>172467952
Speaking of that bot, the record of that beast machine it had you kill was written in all caps, just like the animal-loving bot spoke. It claimed to not be aware of the beast bot, but I still find that kind of weird.
I'll have to go back and check, but I'm tempted to say he knew the bot, took a liking to real animals and abandoned the imitation.
Or maybe all bots related to the wilderness speak/write in all caps.

>>172469529
I had a chuckle when Pascal's village was on fire and saw the kid was probably locked inside. Then I was kind of shocked when I swung my sword and saw it making contact with something in the house. He should've already been dead.

Now I wonder if I'd be able to hack his door open when visiting as 9S if I hadn't killed him as A2.

Just finished the routes.
This game is a fucking hecatomb, I'm literally shaking right now.

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Alright,i just finished the game 10 seconds ago and i did THAT and now i don't know how to feel.

help me /ndg/.

>>172479532
Taro demands your sacrifice. He MUST feed.

>>172479639
>help me
Go buy $800 worth of STRONG moonshine and/or gutrot, buy a long sippy straw, curl up in bed, drink and forget about the world for a good while.
Once you do that learn slowly how to live with the emptiness.

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>>172478526
You know, if Drakengard 2 skipped Nowe and primarily focused on Manah and Caim's stories, kind of reversing their roles from the first game as they both tried to deal with the demons from their pasts, than I think it could have been top tier.

Or at least more salvageable.

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Black haired 9S is cute! CUTE!

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>>172479532
>>172479639
Don't worry guys, time will dull the pain.

>>172479320
desu the only difficult note is the very last one where the tempo goes to practically 0 AND dialogue is playing over it.

Otherwise it's a 4/4 call and response, it might actually be easier to do it with your eyes closed.

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>>172479532
>pascal's village

DEATH TO TARO WHEN???

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>>172479471
I don't think you can hack his door again after the village was destroyed, but I like to think that he's doing alright.

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>>172480016
Y-yeah...!
Its been 3 weeks and i'm totally f-fine!

>>172480093
Killing Taro won't bring the children[/spoiler back.

>>172480093
How the fuck did that even happen to Pascal's Village? I thought they disconnected from the network.

>>172478293
Fuck no, dude.

I left Pascal to his own nightmare and didn't kill him. I can't kill aoi yuki

Did he sudoku?

>>172480005

was the implication that he was being used as a sex bot and ended up killing himself and the resistance member?

>>172480005
I want to take care of him ;_;

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>>172480039
> it might actually be easier to do it with your eyes closed.
You see, people say that, but I have no sense of rhythm or timing for that sort of thing. Like it's a foreign concept to me.

>>172480259
The network let them disconnect in order for them to provide evolutionary pressure, naturally it can also forcefully reconnect them, in the same what that it effects YoRHa in the start of C

>>172480341
Yea

>>172480039
>tried to actively describe this to mates when the game came out
>didn't believe me that it could be done on ears alone even the last note
>did it for them then turned off the system and MADE them do it themselves before anything else was spoiled

>>172480259
The Network gained sentience and decided to experiment with different forms of government and societies that humans have used.

Pascal's village was simply allowed it's freedom until Terminal decided it was no longer necessary.

>>172480341
>I left Pascal to his own nightmare

ur a monster m8

>>172478293
Kind of apples and oranges there.

>>172480341

>skipping a weapon
>skipping what happens at 100% weapon stories

ya fucked up

>>172480575
I can't still do it again with the chapter option can't I?

>>172480341
Yes.
>>172480368
Its less ambiguous in jap but basically he's repeating the same begging "please" of the Dad to not tell anyone.
The implication is it might have actually been an E-Model that did them in.
>>172480380
Its honestly the only good being classically trained has done me.
>>172480093
Don't do it. Its what he wants now let him suffer when he realizes the booze money ran out and he has to sell himself again.

>>172480341
Nah, he's probably so depressed that he can't even marshal the will to off himself. He'll just sit in that room suffering until he breaks down.

You're the bad guy anon.

How do I look up 2B's skirt?

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>>172477848
>>172478024
But who wore it best?

>>172480847
Just self-destruct

>>172480847
H-hentai

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>>172480852

>>172480847
Just self destruct. If you stare at it for too long tho she'll do something cute.

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The saddest thing is i never got to find out what those locked elevators do with the machine doing pushups infront of it and sudokus when you talk to him.

Time to suffer all over again on hard i guess.

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>>172481195
>locked elevators
They're a joke. Or cut content. Or future DLC. Maybe.

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>>172480963
>>172480852
Me? Is it me, legna?

>>172481195
Nothing in them, my dude, don't believe them?

>>172481195

Those are presumably spots set aside for possible DLC.

>>172481195
Its poop. Just poop. Tell your friends if they ask that its poop.

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>>172478526
>>172479958
I just want more wacky/tragic pact partner relationships.

>>172478636
Is it really that terrible? I always thought I was totally prepared to run through a kusoge for the reward that is beautiful suffering, but now I'm not so sure.

At the same time, I looked at the LP and I'm afraid that the amused/disgusted commentary may change my interpretation of it.

Confess your Automata sins:

I installed death rattle as soon as I got it, and enjoyed it.

>>172481571
I wonder what Hanch's butt crack smells like?

>>172480093
Best part of Pascal's village ruin is the kid who swore to never step foot outside again.
Would someone do a "this is fine" edit of him?

>>172480193
Can the bots even withstand all that heat?

>>172480368
Didn't seem that way to me. I'd have liked something scandalous, but I guess the two were too weak and were killed by machines.

>>172480341
>Did he sudoku?
Probably, in the form of visiting the dangerous parts of the factory or hopping into the lava pit, or walking out into the desert all after cleaning up the bodies of his children.

>>172480464
He asked enough favors of someone who hates machines AND had the nerve to ask to help him be a coward.

>>172481195
>pushups
Cute, anon.

>>172481162
>If you stare at it for too long tho she'll do something cute.
I was actually watching her dress after being in water when she did this. Took me by surprise and then I kept doing it just to see her reaction, earning the achievement. I felt kinda bad at that point. 2B 2cute

>>172481571
>a child loses his innocence
>a general loses his sense of loyalty
>a politician loses his sight
>a musician loses his left hand

I always wondered if people that play these games are M. I know I am even if just lightly.

Is the high jump trick only with 2B?

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>>172481938
Personally, I think the mass majority of my dislike for the gameplay in Drakengard 1 comes from collecting weapons for unlocking the Ending E boss.

The rest of it is merely tedious and annoying, but going back to recycled stages, playing on higher difficulties on a time-limit, and sifting through guides to find the ridiculous requirements for unlocking every weapon was genuinely painful.

>>172482219
Oh.
>a philosopher loses his sanity

>>172481938
Clemp's videos are a lot more positive. But they are a recap, not a playthough.

>>172482228
M, like, masochists? No. I'm the opposite. I'm enjoying it from the sadistic angle, in that I really enjoy people being sad.

>>172482072
I don't think that's a sin.

Anyway, my first death was to a boar. I wish there was achievement for that.

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>>172482072
I hacked Father Servo.

>>172482072
I spoiled myself by coming to this thread before finishing the game.
It literally did nothing to soften the impact the game had on me.

>>172482454
Proof that sadists aren't people.

>>172482072
I created a backup of my save file before E because I assumed there'd be something similar to the first game.

I deleted it after

>>172482072

I robbed Emil

I don't deserve his friendship

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>>172481938
i played through everything with as low expections as possible
i never had fun through the entire game a single time, it's boring at its best and legit frustrating at its worst, the gameplay is fucked, the missions are boring, it's ugly, the music is a nightmare, and by the end i just wanted it to stop, some of the weapon requirements felt like genuine dick moves as well (how the fuck are you even supposed to find out the secret weapons when you're chasing Manah, seriously?)

it's more controversial, but i don't think the game is well written at all too
each character has the depth of a puddle when you look past their shock factor (aside of maybe angelus and manah)
everyone repeats themselves again and again for the entirety of the game and every tiny bit of plot and character trait is spoonfed to you repeatedly
there's no reason to at all care about the world
the disturbing factor outside of ending B and D is pretty sparce as well

i just don't really understand how that game took off as a cult classic at all

>>172482725
>>172482072

I created a backup and haven't deleted it yet because I'm holding out for the chance of DLC

>>172482072
I'm posting her despite having only finished the first 3 endings.

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>>172482228
I often wonder why I seek out games that make me sad.

I guess I feel that for a game to genuinely be able to make me depressed, it has to succeed in enough areas of pacing and storytelling to form an emotional connection with me. So I crave stories and characters that are well-crafted enough to actually be able to make me feel something for their plight.

>>172482874
???

D and E are like, 20 min away, tops

>>172482072
[Spoiler] Once i figured out hacking was OP as fuck i hacked into literally everything and everyone with barely even using my weapons.
And i did the whole route B like that.
[/spoiler]

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>>172482759
I'm sorry emil, I just wanted that trophy.

>tfw he's still nice to you even after you had the audacity to break into his home and steal from him TWICE and then beat the shit out of him after he tried to get you to stop it

You really are the bad guy in this game.

>>172482072
>put one on
>second i realize what it did i start laughing maniacally
>can hear the little sadistic bit of myself in my own laugh even as i do it again
>have to actively stop and debate myself whether this is okay or not because its just a game right
>settle on just one more
>....and one more
>and one...
>and...

>>172482874
D and E are really short just go do them

>>172482313
Respond pls senpai

God damn it did anyone else have a hard time getting to the cypress stick? Landing on these pillars is fucking my shit up.

>>172482979
ignore the faulty spoiler tags,i can't see through the tears.

>>172483083
Double jump and glide down to the pillars, dash after the double jump to get to the arches

>>172482934
I feel the same way. I tend to be drawn to sad or depressing stories where I get attached to the characters. I hate to use this phrase but it makes me "feel".

>>172482802
>shitda pleb

Ah that explains it.

Best fucking thing about hacking is being able to one shot those flying snakes. Fuck them

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Anyone load scans of the world guide yet?

>>172483083
No

>>172483189
I just got it. For some reason I was just having a cunt of a time locating my landing on those pillars. I think I was trying too hard honestly.

Does anyone have the untranslated version of The Memory Cage?

>>172482934
>>172483208
but why do we do it

>>172483419
We are machines searching for things that make us feel human.

>>172482971
>>172483014
I'm emotionally broken, I was too weak for this game. Can't go on.
Why did 6O had to die? She was so cheerful and cute despite the rude times of war. And all those comrades you have to kill by your own hands. I can't take it anymore

>>172479161
PROPRIETARY != IN HOUSE

PLEASE ELABORATE

>>172483083
>"I was in a dead sleep when mum started shouting. "Wakey-wakey!" she squawked. "Rise and shine! Today's a very important day! Today's your first visit to the castle!" ...Annoying, right? But I got up anyway."

>"Today's my 16th birthday, and I have an audience with the king. Mum's apparently worried that he'll charge me with some big important task, so she gave me a cypress stick...for some reason. Pffft. Like that'll help."

>"As we walk to the castle, Mum keeps blabbing about how excited she is and how long she's been waiting for this day. She's told me this story a million and one times, so I just keep quiet like always."

>"When we arrive, I see my friend coming out of the castle. He's 16, too, but his fearless gaze makes him look like a legendary hero-to-be. I'm sure he's got a lot to live up to! MY dad's just a carpenter, so I've got it easy, heh."

What exactly in Dragon Quest is the Cypress Stick story referencing?

>>172483651
It's the first weapon you get.

Humanity just keeps getting fucked in the ass in games.

>>172483252
Amen to that.

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>>172483419
I suppose that depends on why you enjoy storytelling in general.

>>172483419
Catharsis and meaning.
Why suffering living scenarios that we can just experience vicariously? Its a better alternative as it spells everything out more or less and we benefit from the viewpoint of an outside observer while the emotional drama of these peoples lives plays out before us. Real life doesn't work this way as any actual situation requires serious reflection and introspection to glean the tiniest tidbit of insight that 9/10 doesn't yield any active meaning or incorporatable knowledge.

How do you change the target of your lock-on on PC (Steam version)? It's annoying the hell out of me.

>>172483590
We don't know and probably won't unless we get lucky or one spills the beans.
>>172483812
You make it sound like we don't deserve it.

>>172483252
My nigga
Snakes are the cancer killing Nier automata

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>>172479958
I wonder if Taro would consider returning to remake a direct continuation of the first Drakengard, or if that chapter's closed.

>>172477675
>What was the Programming language for N:A?
Their own version of Haskell with manual memory management.

>>172484101
Don't lock on ever again. It's somewhat annoying with precise pod fire but it makes the game so much better.

>>172484256
Why?

how good is the final playthrough .. been putting off doing 9s playthrough once I heard its at least 70% the exact same thing as 2b except now with a shittier fighting style.

How do I make Emil show up near the resistance camp, nigga?

>>172479321
2B fishing/android killing game when

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>>172483419
Because most of my day to day interactions with other people are relatively shallow and superficial. I need something meaningful and heavy to keep myself from feeling empty.

>>172484436
Soft lock on is practically the same (except for pod fire) and it automatically changes the target to what you are looking at

>>172483651
Most similar one I can think of is DQ7, but it's also the most recent one I've played. You have a companion about your age in that game.

>>172484554
Fantastic. A and B barely register compared to it.

You can blast through B really quickly if you ignore side quests

>>172484554
Just wait until you play 2A in part3
beast mode super saiyajin, ki dash, big ass, cute and stuffs.

>been playing 26 hours in a row

>>172482072
1) I tossed out some chips so I could get it and immediately installed it.
My only complaint about it is that androids let out the same scream.

2) Accidentally, but gladly walked out on Pascal. I didn't like the two options he was asking of you, so I had A2 walk around the room as if to think about it while I thought about it.

>>172482228
I've only played Automata. Not M nor S, but I like a rollercoaster of surprises, twists and mindfucks; bonus if I feel the feels.

>>172482547
In his final form, I did minimal hacking if any out of respect for him.

>>172482759
What's this robbing of Emil I've heard about??
I've stopped his car maybe five times (one of the times, he was going at high speed), found the lunar tears for him and accessed his special place, gotten ending E and have not battled him (though I have seen the heads in the desert).

>>172484554
Oh yeah, make sure to do amnesia (sidequest in the ~3rd floor of that first building) as 9S

It gives the best pod program in the game.

>>172484554
Route C is short in comparison, but I enjoyed it a lot more than B.

>>172485217

You found his special place but you never found his home.

tip: check the area above the hole.

>>172482547
>I am... the Nier Automata

>>172485214
>cut my almost lethal insomnia fueled 56 hour days and 10 hour sleeps down to 62 hour days and 4 hour sleeps for automata
Is it weird i feel better than i have in a LONG time.

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>Made it to SE Business Division IV
Oh good, I'm not incompetent.

If only I had that level of bullet dodging in the Soul Box, it would have saved me some frustration.

I wish I could do fancy combo like those guys in videos.

>>172482072
I let Devola and Popola die. Multiple times.

Not a sin, just bragging.

>>172485889
Wait you can actually save them?

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>>172485651
Would pay for coliseum DLC.

>>172486154
No, but you can refuse to hack and let them die prematurely.

>>172484861
>Punching into things really hard as 2A in super saiyajin mode with hp back/per death
Nothing feels better than this in this game

>>172485651
Main interesting thing is a launcher (jump + heavy) cancelled (dash after the hit)

That makes it so that the enemy flies up but you stay on the ground. Then wait for them to fall and continue the combo

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>>172485651
It's not really all that hard, Anon. Certainly not the level execution you need for, say, DMC4 Dante.

Just practice, learn the strings for each weapon, and know when you can dodge-cancel out of things to do something new or use a pod program.

>>172483326
Someone posted it a couple of threads ago.

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Okay, in C, when you're playing as A2 and the villagers are going crazy, is it possible to get the recluse boy out of his house? I mistakenly slashed at the door and saw an explosion and then I felt so incredibly awful.

Is there anything I could have done?

also
>having to kill the father robot
>seeing the cocky inventor robot getting eaten


Did I truly do the right thing? 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>172482228
It's possible I'm subconciously punishing myself for not grieving for my sister properly.

If ending E is my last ending, when does the 'complete the alphabet' trophy pop? I'm worried that it's a trap if I delete my save.

>>172486629
Nope. you have to kill him.

>>172486387
>he doesn't have a 450% taunt, 2% health back on attack, and crit chips with a cypress stick
Hows it feel not riding the razors edge not knowing whether that next swing will freeze your game or not from pure badassery?

>>172483419
I was emotionally dead for a few years. Things like this remind me that I'm human.

>>172486830
This feels good too I have to agree

>>172486705
There's a joke ending for every remaining letter of the alphabet.

>>172487027
I implied that I have the other 25 letters.
E is my last one.

>>172486705

I got the alphabet achievement at the title screen. Don't worry if it doesnt show up at the same time as E's achievement.

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I just fell into the water by accident while going to Emil's house, I never asked for this

>>172486705
I can answer that, interestingly enough, you get it way after the last cutscene. The pods will ask you whenever do you want to sacrifice the save, and if you say no like a fag(me) they will say acknowledged and it will pop up, I assume for the other answer it will pop after the deletion animation is complete and pods thank you for playing.

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>tfw you realize the robots at the beginning of route B are Adam and Eve before evolving

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What's the Commander's total semen capacity?
If I were a horse, I'd probably not have enough to fill a tenth of her useable volume

>>172487632
But that's wrong, you fight the brother bots in the God box, so they're not A&E

> what should be the first boss players fight once they gain control of A2, the melee berserker character?

>how about a boss that is in flight 50% of the time and requires constant target switching across long distances

I feel like this is Taro trying to prank the Platinum team by giving them a really stupid boss idea.

>>172487632
>that corpse pile
Oh god.

>>172487574
Is that your character's sword?

Or the sword from the epilogue?

>>172487632
No, it's Auguste, the boss you fight as A2 right after 9S kills 21O. The big brother robot had no arms, but there were those chain-head robots on either side of him at the garbage dump. The little robots even have the same buckets on their heads. I want to fuck A2 in a missionary/mating press.

>>172487724
You sure about that? It's very possible that Eve's personality spread throughout the network at a blisteringly high speed considering how many robots in the game are siblings.

>>172487632
Fugg

>>172487837
9S sword

>>172487842
Me too

>>172487849

Boss name says 'Auguste' not 'Adam and Steve''

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>>172483506
>Having to kill 6O during the escape

>>172484559
Fucking this.

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>>172488218

>discovering that 21O didn't die at the Bunker and now you have to kill her too

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>>172488441
I didn't mind killing the borderline incestuous whore. Even 9S wanted to murder her dead.

>Trying to meme an ""encouraging"" message
>Only one Hell and multiple versions of ideal afterlives of a few cultures

I just wanted to tell people to die for Darkseid

>>172488218
you don't kill 6O directly during the bunker escape, she's talking to you over the intercom as you leave

>>172488018
It's not outside the realm of possibility that Eve was born from the Machine's desires for siblings. Hell, Adam was born shortly after a bunch of Machines got angry at 2B and 9S for killing their Machine Friends; Machines that only a few moments beforehand were imitating act of sex.

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>>172484559
>>172488362
I think it's a matter of luck. Talk to him, fast travel to the resistance camp from the city center, then talk to him again. Repeat.

Sometimes he changes routes, sometimes he doesn't.

>>172484559
>>172488362

do not teleport. You need to reset his position by moving to a different zone on foot. Easiest to go to the desert and back. Check the map each time you reenter the ruins.

Usually he'll send an email to you just before he goes to the camp.

Sonetimes he wont be on the map at all, just keep doing it.

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>>172488441
>hack 100% of the machine's air defense during the Route C intro mission
>210's last communication with 9S was complimenting how well he did

>>172487574
Is this where the new title screen background takes place?

>>172488753
Really? It felt like I could never get him to change locations without fast traveling.

Guys. The alcohols not helping anymore and tears pop out before i even notice it sometimes in public. Help me.

How to find low cost chips?
I somehow have some at [9] meanwhile Emil sell them for [15] for the same effect, not worth I guess.
The one dropped on mobs are cheaper?

>>172488595
She only talks to you during that one segment, then she never talks to you again. I'm pretty sure you have to put her down yourself.

>>172489035

Its the advice I saw when I looked around and it worked for me. through all of my first route while I was teleporting around to do sidequests Emil never changed his position by the desert once.

>>172488575
>Even 9S wanted to murder her dead.
To be fair, 9S wanted everything dead.

>>172489130
If you do her side quests, she's talking about flowers past the point where you've killed off all the yorha in the corridor.

>>172489183
I got it last night through fast travelling between Pascal's and the Reistance Bunker. You have to talk to him at each place first, then he'll send you some emails at different points. Only then did he seem to get close to the resistance camp, and i had to shoot him really close to the entrance to get him to sell the weapons.

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>>172489103

>>172488938
No, that's 9S while he keeps falling in an endless cycle. Was pretty amusing for a while, I couldn't get any button to work while stuck there so I just sat there watching him fall again, and again, and again.

>>172489323
I did her sidequest, and she didn't talk any more after one of the middle sections of the run to the flying machines. Maybe it was a glitch or I was extremely slow or something?

>>172485398
Oh I forgot I wanted to try looking for it. Thanks.

>>172486629
Why did you feel bad? Serves him right for being a hikki.

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>>172489113
You're gonna have to farm for low cost chips, yeah. Vendor chips are all garbage, except for stuff like item scan and auto pickup cause you can't get those from drops.

[This is an unwinnable fight.][But][you've got us with you.] [Hell]

Can't really think of anything else without just completely memeing

>>172489485
It isn't subtitled, but as you get to the elevator, she tells you about how the virus infection has blossomed into a "beautiful flower", which you can take as a DoD3 reference if you want.

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>>172489103
Just remember it was a happy ending.

>>172489791
FUCK YOU YOKO TARO ;_;

>>172487578
Can confirm that it does pop after the deletion process.

>>172489686
Oh, I'm playing with Jap audio so that's why I missed that. Thanks! A-at least she didn't die by my hand, then.

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>>172484119
>You make it sound like we don't deserve it.
Debatable.

Decided to keep powering my way through DS2. Actually ran into a save file bug that caused my game to crash and had to hex edit. On the third DLC now. This dude's a badass for surviving. Total dick for selling everyone else out, though.

>>172490953
>DS2
Is that game any good? Should I try it?

>>172491070
Different anon. its fun but the collection portion is almost as bad as Nier and its own unique hell.

>>172478293
Heal your soul with waifus, lad. It is the natural order of things.

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>>172491070
It's okay. Deathfinitive Edition requires a monster CPU, though. I'm playing the normal one. Has a 300kb save file size limit issue. Keep it in mind going in for the event you encounter it.

>>172491070

Play the first one. Its a charming little mix of Zelda and God of War.

DS2 is similar but also has Diablo elements added.

>>172478810
>automatafags
There are so many hanging threads left in the Taroverse, with Accord being the most gaping. Automata is a solid individual experience, but it isn't fit to put a cap on the series.

>>172491607

It also introduces threads, like why the fuck does Eve have the Watcher symbol on his chest.

>>172478810
Automata is not a good end to this series. Why would you think that another nier game would have anything to do with these characters anyway, Taro has never done that.

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I just got ending E. Holy shit the feels. I couldn't help myself and I deleted it all. Seeing all those messages.....I was going to feel like an ass if I kept it....

Is there any hope of the non-yorha androids making some kind of successor-society? Maybe something underground or on the moon?
how would yoko fuck them over?

>>172480093
>the devouring of Pascal's village manages to be shocking even though they already played the cannibalism card earlier in the game
>Pascal's rage is genuinely exciting and tragic and amazing
>completely ruins the entire thing with Twilight Zone-tier ironic tragedy IF ONLY I HADN'T TAUGHT THEM TO FEARRRR
thanks taro

>>172484641
How do you soft lock?

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>>172477278
So i'm one quest away from finishing route A.

After that I'll keep all my shit in route B, right?

What about 2B's equipped weapons and chips?

Will I get them back?

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>>172492004
They already have the Resistance Camp which seems to exist in some kind of quantum pocket plane. Even being set ablaze and ransacked by ravenous machines including a Goliath didn't manage to interrupt their way of life or structural integrity in any meaningful capacity.

Hell, they were so cozy they couldn't be bothered to come check on the massive tower of Isengard that sprang up a few blocks down, or lend any aid whatsoever to YoRHa's final confrontation with the machines that they were presumably resisting.

>>172492040
Yeah this. That was part was too cheesey for me to take seriously even though the voice acting was good. Pascal selling the children's body parts later on made up for it though.
>>172492449
Yes you'll have all your chips and weapons.

>>172491749
I really don't think we are going to get watchers stuff any time soon.

Obviously it's because the machine network later evolves into the watchers and now has the task to wipe out humanity across timelines /s.

Being serious on the same note, i'm almost certain that YoRHa reforms to glorify humanity across timelines and that's where Accord comes from. Next game YorHA vs Watchers.

>>172492313
It just happens. The white targeting reticle that appears when not locked on is the soft lock

>>172492646
Thanks for help.

>>172489686
I was doing my second playthrough in Japanese but now I see that I must change it back.
I wasn't really noticing much improvement in VA anyway.

>>172492449
You keep everything. 2B uses a copy of whatever you had equipped last, and you can't change it, so make sure you swap to your ideal partner weapons when the final boss's health gets low.

>>172492504
Because they're resisting progress.
Please take note of Taro's muslim hate and their attire and way of living.

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>>172492504

>see the corpses of all the shopkeepers during the climax of A and B

>they're all alive again in C

>>172492504
disgusting fat senran

>>172492504
>can't land near the camp because the machines might find it
>after an all out machine assault on the camp the resistance moves right back in
I'm getting mixed messages here.

>>172493102
Androids.

>>172493215

Nigga do you remember that the machines were eating them

>>172493295
We murdered those guys though. Also, being eaten doesn't stop you from being restored from a server.

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Is there a way to do the large sword/combat bracer baseball bat every time?

>>172492841
Well I'm using the Overlord sword and the Twin Fangs since they seem the best in terms of pure damage upgraded to lvl 3 in route A.

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>>172493102
>>172493193
Compare it to the first Nier where life was miserable in Nier's village after Jack's raid, or the obliteration of the Aerie.

The Resistance Camp feels like such an after thought. Including Anemone herself.

>>172493140
Fuck off, Bebe-tan.

>>172493428
If I remember correctly, the Resistance androids can't respawn like YoRHa androids can. There's no central database to download their data from.

>>172493568
Hikage and Shiki are better.

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>>172493450
No, you're welcome

>>172493568

>read Yorha stageplay before game is out
>know Anemone is gonna be in the game, think she'll be a big part of the story

>shes Popola without the plot relevance

well shit

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>>172490953
>This dude's a badass for surviving.
Huh. That sure lasted.

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>>172491997
Yeah, I kind of regret keeping mine on my first time through. But I wanted that weapon completion quest.

So at the end of ending D we see Pascal looking at the sky.....I assume he has no memories of the village right? What if you choose to kill him instead of erasing his memories?

>>172494149
He doesn't appear.

>>172494149
He doesn't appear

So when 210 was treating 9S like a kid in the beginning of route C, did that mean anything or was she just fucking with 9S?

>>172494207
>>172494235
I'm getting memed right?

>>172494291
She starts treating him like a kid because she's yearning for a family. If you did her sidequests about finding stuff from humans she talks to 9S about "familial units" and strongly hints at him being her son if they were a family.

>>172494291
If you do her sidequest, she learns about the concept of families. Her behavior in route C is her awkwardly imitating what she learned, in an attempt to express how she's always felt about 9S.

Where did the name "Nier" come from anyway?
I know it was the name of the dude but...who decided to call him Nier?
Why use it as the title for Automata?

>>172494318
What's hard to believe?
He doesn't appear because you kill him.
Simple as that.

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>>172493568
>>172493841
Yeah, that might be one of my few nitpicks.

Apart from the twins, Anenome and the rest of the resistance feel kind of vestigial during the final stretch of the game, despite the big backstory they have to work with.

I would have settled for them forming a convoy and helping you travel to the final tower in the end or something, but I guess that 9S and A2 weren't really being team-players by that point.

>>172494491
It's the same design....literally. I'm not crazy......

>>172494485
Who knows.
Yoko Taro.
Because it's a sequel.

Biggest question: Why the fuck is DoD 3 DoD 3 and not DoD 0

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>>172494291
I chalked it up to early stages of logic virus infection causing her to act a little loopy.

>>172494420
I can literally smell the doujins being drawn...

>>172494601
>It's the same design....literally. I'm not crazy......
What are you even babbling about now?

>>172494601

He doesnt appear if you kill him

He appears if you wiped him

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>>172494318
He DOESN'T appear.
He. Doesn't. APPEAR.

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>>172494291
>>172494676
>All these people not doing the Operator side quests

>>172494685

MOMMY

>>172494775
Birth of a wish plays

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>>172494804
I did do 21O's quests, I'm saying the logic virus is causing her to say that stuff when normally she'd be more composed about it.

>>172494641
But Nier is also a sequel to Drakengard so it's not like they were required to keep the title.

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Big thanks to whoever did the OST disc uploads.

Only complaint was that I had to edit every song name/title to English.

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>>172494723
>>172494730
>>172494775
Ok, thanks. When you guys answered "he doesn't appear" at first I thought you were saying he doesn't appear at all....even when you don't kill him. A misunderstanding, thought I was seeing things.....

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>>172494485
I dunno. Maybe because the end of humanity is Neeaar?

Though I do find it funny that you get the option to name your character, despite his canon name being the title. When I first played I assumed that "Nier" was referring to something else plot relevant, so I was afraid to name the protagonist that.

>>172494804
If you fast travel all the time you miss 6O sidequest, their loss anyway since there is a reason fast travel isn't available for a while

>>172494685
I'm working so you can SEE them, naive anon.
Someday soon but you won't like them.

>>172494804
Boop

>Got my Plat
>Deleted my save
>Might play through again for dialogue

I'm kind of numb, I guess. I can appreciate the game from a distance, but not playing the game blind probably softened the blows.
Or I am just dead inside.

I have a back-up save on a usb drive,
in case I ever wanted to try and reference an in-game documents, but I do kinda want to play again on a fresh save. If I power through the story, and don't fuck around and over-level, I might actually feel something again. The moment that I was the least bit over-leveled ruined any of the tension in the game.

>>172494947
But nier isn't in the same universe as drakengard.

Drakengard games take place in bizzaro land with the world map turned upside down.

Nier games take place after the events of Drakengard E introduces magic to modern day.

>>172494934
She acts like that because 2B isn't there, and she can act more openly about her feelings. 21O is fully aware of 2B being 2E, since Operator memories aren't wiped.

>>172495053
Don't you get 6O's sidequest after checking back in on her a few times at the bunker?

>>172495297
You can? I have been replaying and every time I have gotten that quest is by walking around the city ruins

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>>172478094
I like 9S and 2B.

>>172495217
No and yes. Nier is a world much like drakengard where shit like red eyes and magic happened but we clamped down on that shit harder than hitler did the jews and everything more or less went like our history did afterwards till 2026 and QB duked it out with Caim/Angelus.

>>172495203
The only thing that really ruined the difficulty right away for me was the overclock chip.

Goes from fast-paced dashing and slashing to immediately being able to wreck anyone after every dodge.

Wait don't ALL the Yorha android's have 2B's face?
Couldn't he just take one of the twins and PRETEND it's 2B? They do have dye you know.
It'd be enough to get his rocks off right?

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>>172492040
This actually really upset me. The scene was perfect as it was before Pascal opened his fucking mouth and ruined it almost entirely with that bullshit.

>>172495413
Yeah, I knew she always gives you the quest while you're on Earth, but I wasn't sure if you had to talk to her in the bunker and acknowledge her existence and interest in data collection first before she sends the message.

>>172495575

The twins aren't Yorha androids though. The Popola Devola models date back to before even the first nier.

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>>172495575
You can't replace a true waifu.

>>172495929
Yet somehow they are absolutely bonkers in combat

>>172496048
Yeah watching them one shot level 40 machines left and right was pretty funny.

>>172496048
They're not particularly strong, but they're old enough to have more combat experience than everyone else by a large margin.

>>172495524
I can see that.

I'm still sticking to my "rush through the story" idea.

>Platinum can scale the level of Moose and Boar mounts
>Can't scale all enemy levels.
I just want a "You won't get ohko, but everyone is lvl99" difficulty.
But fixing the """postgame""" would kinda send some mixed messages with the game giving you no excuse for deleting your save.

>>172496048

Imagine if they could use sealed verses like the other Devola and Popola.

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You know, when I first started the game, I remember wondering what was up with 2B. She seemed bipolar to me, because she was so sad at 9S's death in the prologue, but then seemed to dislike him the rest of the first playthrough.

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>replaying thinking i already got over the despair
>i didnt
>"I almost never get a partner"
>he always does
>despair

>>172496207
What is she saying to him Anons?

>>172496230
A and B are incredibly sad after having seen C anon. Your despair isn't over by a longshot.

>>172496301
Nines
Delet ur save, my dude

>>172496352
Maybe drinking will help

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>>172496301
I'm ovulating right now

>>172495627
I'm glad to see other anons feel the same way. All I ever hear is people LITERALLY SHAKING over that scene.

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>>172496301

Are the A-Z endings in English even in Japan?

If so, was that the same for the original Drakengard?

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>>172496452
Take it from. It doesn't...... ;_;
nothing helps and its not going away like its supposed to.

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>>172496579
Those are the same people who thought that the climax was the dead children and were excited for the Engels fight.
Their opinions are best ignored.

>>172496301
Mayonegg.

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>>172495627
>>172496579
I thought it was decent. I guess because I thought the children dying was to be expected, but the fact that they killed themselves over Pascal's good intentions added an unexpected layer to his tragedy and emphasized how none of the machines were meant to feel what it means to be human in the first place.

>>172496753
Anon... Japs know what the alphabet is.

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I always fucking wondered, if taro wanted to make the Androids resemble the human beings why the flying fuck he didn't added sexual content or at least some sort of confirmation that they actually can have sex, or maybe a cannon couple that fuck like rabbits.

Sex is a human shit and even the machines understand that, why the fuck the Androids don't do shit, they have free time.

>>172497336
Well no shit I was just wondering if the full names of the endings were translated or not.

[K] prompted the question

So, apparently you have to just brute force talk to Anemone as A2 until she finally gives you some background stuff? Jesus, that's where the missing Novels are.

Is it worth using my backup save or should I just power through the main game again?

>>172482072
I don't feel anything from this game. I think you guys are just being melodramatic cunts.

>>172497373
It's at least implied that operators do. At the very least we know the go on dates. B models are probably just stoic by design, O models seem to have some personality variation, and AeiToo isn't unemotional at all. They do have shittons of books and old human records, as well as music.

>>172497489

Chapter select to the part where you first enter the camp as A2, right when you save Pascal. Then keep talking to Anemone.

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>>172497472
What does "aji wo kutta" translate to?

>>172497607
Romance doesn't automatically mean coitus.

Yes, Machines clearly know what sex is, but it's debatable if they have any real understanding of it, or if it's a child-like, 'daddy pees in mommy and I have a baby brother!'

>>172497489
I remember only having to talk to her once after accepting the quest to get a fuel filter from Pascal.

>>172497489
>brute force talk
What? you only need to talk to her 2 or 3 times for the first time after leaving the desert since NPC have 2 sets of dialogue

>>172497607
Yeah but the basics of any human being - and again something machines knows - are: Eating, Survive, Reproduction.

Androids don't do any of them while the machines does the second one and try to do the third one.

>>172497336
I'd hope so. We did drop an A-Bomb on them.

>>172497373
It's unclear. 9S seems to know how children are made. But then on the other hand, no one seems to make any comments on 2B's lewd outfit or that A2 is basically completely naked. I like to think that their love is pure.

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>>172497876
My original source of information only said "Talk to Anemone as A2", which I did. And it didn't work.

But now it's clarified that it's under more specific conditions, so It makes sense.
I wish I knew to do it at that specific point, before I "deleted" my save.
I may as well just play through the game again and delete my back-up like I know I should. I've wanted a fresh save ever since I hit level 90.

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>>172497916
The resistance eats (not fish though), and struggles to survive.

Lovers just probably find alternative ways to express affection.

>>172486602
Link? Can't seem to find it.