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Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/016ysnkhenaxkud/sv+uncensor+1.4.61.zip

All-in-one Android undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g3wprejd9foygnr/v1461+Folders+a+and+v.zip

Tools for deckbuilding and card checking
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
http://sv.bagoum.com

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

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>>172324569
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>>172345030
>not wanting actual board interaction and games not tied to what your opening hand is and whether you went 1st/2nd
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arisa pleases orcs for free
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I want to go on a cute date with Luna!
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GOOOO
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Arisa is beautiful and strong!
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12597946

http://www.strawpoll.me/12597951

The pack value calculator / collection tracker in the pastebin has been updated for ToG. Please remember to download the new sheet before the cards are released, so you can track what you open right away.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit#gid=877059207
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>mfw retards play blood moon and I drop them to 6 hp next turn.
Yeah buddy awesome card you got there.
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>>172345448
>mfw retards play blood
Could have just truncated it there buddy.
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>>172345256
dtards don't play games. they're too dumb to strategize based on their opponent's plays so they just play statistics.
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>>172345325

>ruined by bitch witch

RUNE DOESN'T DESERVE HIM
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>people think forest is currently t1
>people think forest is going to be t1 in ToG
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Uh, how do you deal with a turn 6 snek
Without themis
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>MFW that Swordcraft has the shittiest cards in the next expansion.

Oh well. Looks like it's Dragon and Blood for the next few months.
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Post useless cards.
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>>172345448
Someone screencap this post so we can repost it when everyone starts complaining about how overpowered blood moon is.

It's already a joke to wreck aggro with cblood, blood moon just makes it even easier.
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>against rune
>it's daria
>he goes second
>has Levi on turn 4, 5 and 6
>also has 2 piercing runes
Not like I wanted to have fun, tbqh
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70412
I'm gonna keep the room up for a while so try again another time if you can't get in.
If you want to win, just attack one of my followers and I'll throw the game.
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>>172345448
>mfw retards play cblood and I just SAA TOBUWAYO
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>>172345642

What cards are YOU looking at?
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>>172345605

Those are just haters who don't want to see Forest getting a decent deck again.

We need more support for combo next expansion. Also more cheap bound effects if possible.
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>>172345605
>forest has been op for so long that the thought of having tier 2 decks leaves them LITERALLY SHAKING and crying
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>>172345618
same as vs any other control decks decks
Albert->evolve->dead opponent/concede
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>>172345645
>Vengeance is active for you even when your leader's defense is more than 10

wait. does that mean vengeance will be active for me when my defense is below 20? unbelievable
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>shadow is now false flagging as a sword to shit on blood
Truly amazing.
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>>172345526
Should play coinflips then.
>Oh, he got a better opening hand and a better matchup, I lose
>He got a better opening, but worse matchup, fighting chance
>Worse opening and better matchup, depends on the matchup, but fighting chance
>Worse opening and match up, just Rowen
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>>172345265
That's a lie!
She charges a small fee which is donated to various wildlife conservation efforts.
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>>172345448
You realize blood moon doesn't actually set your health to 10 right?
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>>172345605
>wanting this to ever be a common sight ever again
Please no. Stay in the trash.
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>>172345871
It's like they think people don't know who all the shitposters have been since the lightning blast reveal.
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>>172345383
how do I use this?
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-= OFFICIAL /svg/ - Shadowverse General FUN RANKINGS =-

>1. Dragon
>2. Blood
>3. Shadow
>4. Sword
>5. Forest
>6. Haven
>7. Rune

-= OFFICIAL /svg/ - Shadowverse General FUN RANKINGS =-


You are free to slightly deviatefrom this list, however please be aware that you will most likely not be taken seriously as this is the objectively correct and agreed upon ranking of the classes by fun.
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>>172345960

Just Death's Breath bro.
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>>172345856
most of the time you will be at <10 hp after playing "turn 3 LITERALLY DO NOTHING" so you will have DOUBLE VENGEANCE!
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>tfw you bluff t9 Albert
>tfw you topdeck him anyway
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>>172345878
They know that's where this game is headed.
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I'm new to this game, are these pulls worth keeping or do I reroll? I'm a but unsure what I'm going to play mainly, was thinking of swordcraft.
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>>172346019
Your list is upside down
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>>172346074
What exactly do you mean by "bluff albert"
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>>172345976
On the bottom of the sheet you'll see instructions for how to download. Once you do, you can input your own cards, and what cards you want/don't want, and the sheet will do all the calculations.
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>>172345871
>swordbabs
>not shitposters by nature
they unironically think their craft is honest and balanced
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>>172346108

>Rune is fun to play against

Now there's a rare opinion.
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>>172346089
It's hard to say since the expansion comes out in a day. If it were any other time I'd say keep rerolling for Albert if you want to play sword, and that's likely going to remain true, but aside from that it's just theorycraft and guesswork.
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>>172345758
Both JP and West consider Gawain and Roland are not good.

Saying that cost reduction is useless, it does not affect how you will play your followers.

Roland is shit because people will still prefer frontguard general.

The only good card is Lecia.
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>>172346187
cool thanks
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>>172346089
>Flute, Soul Dealer, Meme Queen
Sorry, try again.
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>>172346167
Keeping a play point assuming you're going to draw into Alberto
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>>172346089
If you want sword you need sword legos
You don't have sword legos
reroll
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>>172346019
>>172346108

Exactly my thought. I never played Rune but I can understand why people are having fun with Daria deck.
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>>172346275
>things I pulled out of my ass: the post
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>>172346089
Soul dealer
>garbage

rose queen
>meme

Wolf
>good but requires 20k vials deck

Reroll
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>>172346363
There is more to rune all around than just daria memeing
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unga bunga my dudes, youve breathed your last
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>>172346275
>JP conisder gawain useless
lmao
post proof
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>>172346275
Roland does sound useless but Gawain?

I honestly don't know about that. And yes Lecia is op.
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Nobody expects Otohime anymore.
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>>172345672
Thank you neighboor.
Only 5 games left.
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>>172346040
even the most finely tuned aggro decks will be luck to get you at 14hp by turn 4 if they curve out perfectly.
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>>172346275

>Sword legendaries being bad on release

I'll believe it when I see it.
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>>172346167
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>play ranked
>run into TWO (2) fucking Dshitters running nothing but fucking snowmen in a row
>still lose because Dshit

Are they literally allowed to do fucking anything?
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>>172346437

I am pretty sure solitaire is more fun than Dshift.
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>>172346229
Who said anything about "against?"
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>>172346575
>2-3 extra turns in a row
Yes.
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concede plox 40200
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>>172346476
I love using foul tempest when people play otomeme
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>>172346275
>The only good card is Lecia.

Dude, are you fucking kidding me?

This card is pure cancer.
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>>172346575
>2 to 3 turns in a row
>a fuckton of pp to work with
yes, they're basically allowed to do anything
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>>172346089
You could get a good start on White Wolf with that batch. You'd need to break down everything except Wolf and Olivia. Craft a second wolf and two silver bolts. Maybe keep Rose Queen until you get a third wolf. You'd need some ancient elves too. Consider buying a forest premade deck.
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When will I be able to pre-order ToG packs? Shouldn't it be available before maintenance?
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>>172346476
If it was tog you woudve been dead allready.
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>>172346615

>played 2 shifts then went face

wow so crazy and cool
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>Banish like the jews!
wtf I love Tsubaki now!
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>>172346723
>I love using foul tempest when people play otomeme

Otohime is just fun for the whole family
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>Win 4 ranked daily
>Total games: 10+
>End result: +100 points
Here I thought the final 3k to masters would be faster
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>>172346825
FUN AND INTERACTIVE
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>Removal/draw/mask on 2
>Blood Moon 3
>Righteous Devil on 4
Daily reminder Righteous Devil is 3 of auto include now. It always was good, but it's guaranteed to pop off. Aggro literally can't win against CBlood now. They'll be cucked into 2 or 3 for 1s against Righteous, and Rev is always around the corner.

Snek isn't that great against control decks, but combo decks were always the bane of CBlood's existence, and they're the decks that will the hardest time against turn 6 board of 5/5s.
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>>172346813
>pre-ordering digital cards

That concept is still beyond retarded.
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>>172346746
There will be times where Monika is better.
That being said if she stick on board, bah gawd

Also why does this artist draw the softest girls? The skindentation is off the charts.
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>>172345672
let me win please
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>>172346962
every

time
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>>172347110
How is it any more retarded than pre-ordering anything?
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I thought Albert could only attack 2 times per turn the turn is played but nooo if it's enchanced can attack every fucking turn twice, nice fucking game shadowbabs
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>>172346275

>the sword legendaries are bad

Roland literally beats Silver Bolt, Roach, and even sometimes D-shift. It makes frontguards better too.

Gawain is literally another rush follower with a ramping mechanic IN SWORD.
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>>172346968
>I will always draw my shit amulets on curve

Times like this make me really appreciate prism priestess.
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>>172346471
Is true though. I mean, ok so gawain was able to reduce the cost I if commanders in his turn. So?

Roland is useless because why not frontguard instead?

Lecia is only good in aggro and ambush decks.

Luminous mage is the next best card after Lecia.

All in all sword is just the same as RoB, but not effective anymore.
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>>172345672
Thanks Luna.
4 more.
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>>172347263
guaranteed replies
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Will geryon be playable in a control blood/midrange deck with more vengence activators? 4 mana 3/3 destroy amulet if vengence active.
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>>172346962
>Hagfag switched to bungasword
As expected
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Need a concede for daily please
Emote 3 times if you need the full match

38934
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>>172347230
>Company makes 200 copies of item a
>sends them to Gamestore
>Item A is great and sells like hot pockets
>people either preordered item A or have to wait
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>>172347438
>geryon
Why does he wear the mask?
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>>172347156
>There will be times where Monika is better.

For midrange and control Monika is literally the most underrated card in the game and Luminous Mage STILL has to compete with Alberto and Aurelia too (Aurelia is still amazing). Gonna be tough to slot Luminous in there.

For aggro tho, this Luminous Mage is gonna be disgusting, especially in face decks that run lots of officers. If she can enable multiple evolves on a single turn, aggro sword will be tier 1 for sure.
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>>172346968
If it was that easy to always get the cards you want, disco dragoon would be T1.
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>>172347583
>If she can enable multiple evolves on a single turn
Look up Titanias
You only get 1 evo per turn, whether it's free or not is irrelevant.
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>>172347507
Most modern digital sales will include pre-order bonuses. In Hearthstone for example, you get an exclusive sleeve for buying expansion packs early.
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>>172347110
It's less retarded than preordering conventional games when you think about it.

You're paying a reduced rate (at least that's how HS does it) for cards that are revealed to you prior to the set launching.

When you preorder a videogame you are essentially hoping it's going to be good based on trailers and leaked gameplay footage. Most of the time you aren't even getting a discount, just some shitty preorder bonus.
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>>172347567
Hes a big guy.
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>play ranked
>rune
>rune
>rune
>rune
>rune

MAKE IT STOP
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>>172347156
>why does this artist draw the softest girls? The skindentation is off the charts.

D-do you not like soft girls?
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>>172347347
>3x Pact
>3x Belph
>Uriel
>Hard mulligan
Blood has better draw than Haven, there are better odds of Blood getting Mask or Blood Moon, than Haven getting Prism or the specific amulet its tutoring. Also, Blood Moon is still a good play on 4 (+Diabolic) 5 (Diabolic or 2, +Mask), and 7 (Rev, Righteous, Belph). You people haven't played control Blood outside dumpster ranks a day in your life if you think CBlood needs to get it on 3 or lose.
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>meanwhile Hearthstone is killing itself
>https://dotesports.com/hearthstone/hearthstone-mobile-superdata-report-february-13819
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>>172347404
t. swordcuck
I hope you die of cancer of AIDS
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>>172347775
>Why
Meant how
My dick can't take it
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>>172347320
>use gawain evo on turn 4/5 for my free spellboost
>frontguard and roland now cost 6 each
>can now play roland on turn 6 and frontguard on turn 7
>dshitter has to triple dshift to have a chance of fucking you
unless they get the dreaded turn 6 dshift of course and you're going second
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Is there a sword control deck that doesn't completely suck balls?
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>>172347737
Except people preordered ungoro packs before all of the cards were fully revealed.

There are retards with 50 packs just sitting there that can't be opened until mid april.
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>>172347695
You also get a reduced rate on the packs. (1$ per pack compared to $1.17 if you buy 60 packs at a time).

It's still jewstone, but I'd consider buying an SV equivalent if they offered something like 50 packs at 50 crystals each.
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>>172347818
Fake news
Hearthstone is the best card game on the market right now
Pirates are cool!
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>>172347675
>Look up Titanias
>You only get 1 evo per turn, whether it's free or not is irrelevant.

>Titania's Sanctuary
>Can Evolve an allied Fairy each turn for 0 evolution points.

>Luminous Mage
>Evolution points won't be used when you evolve allied Commanders.

It's not the same.

Also, there ARE cards that enable multiple EVOs in a turn such as Tia and Reina.

Unless devs have confirmed otherwise this is debatable.
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>>172347926
Yes but it doesn't change the fact that you CAN still preorder after the entire set has been spoiled if you wait for it.

If you wait for reviews to come out for a videogame you have missed the pre-order window.
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>>172347967
Tia says that she herself evolves Eve
Same with Neptune and Reina

The 1evo/turn restriction is on the player.
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>>172347503
Still need one

To the elf player who just entered to proceed to tryhard for a win when you don't need to - fuck off
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>>172347775
Arisa makes my heart soft.
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>>172347818

>Hearthstone is sucking because of complaints about rps meta and basically being made to coinflip to win
>Cygames is getting bitched at because of rps meta and being made to coinflip to win

Cygames isn't going to learn from this, are they?
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>>172347890
If the Alberto fags start playing patrician Roland and delete D-shitters from the ladder I'll be eternally grateful
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>>172347967
Not him, but they're obviously the fucking same. Both Mage and Titanias are MANUAL evolutions. You have to click evolve to get the effect, which consumes your 1 allowed evolve per turn. Tia, Reina, and Neptune are different.
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>>172347818
>"Blizzard Entertainment may have dealt itself a few bad hands lately in regards to its PC and mobile hit Hearthstone. Superdata today released its worldwide digital games market report for February, and the research firm concluded that "Hearthstone is killing itself."

>According to Superdata, February saw Hearthstone revenues on iOS and Android at their lowest since those versions of the game launched, down significantly year-over-year and month-over-month. The desktop version of the game has also seen declining revenues, though not to the same extent as on mobile. "

Ah, so this is the reason for those price hikes.
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>>172348143
Well we make them more money than Goyblue Fantasy so it would be in their best interest to stop the bleeding. Fingers crossed.
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>>172348143
Hearthstone sucks because no waifus.
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>>172347956

Just heard that hearthstone is gonna die in a few years in /hsg/ though.
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>>172348164
Turn 6 snek might remove D.Shift, because that deck always struggled with swarms of big guys. Elana might also fuck it in the ass with Kell and Mist Shaman, especially if it runs even more target immunity.
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>>172347890
That implies you ever have a target to ram Gawain into or he survives a turn
Both unlikely to happen
The only time Gawain sticks is if you evo him turn 4 on an empty board (which is a good play btw) or right after they used a big wind blast fiery and are unlikely to be able to deal 6 damage
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>>172348209
>Not him, but they're obviously the fucking same. Both Mage and Titanias are MANUAL evolutions. You have to click evolve to get the effect, which consumes your 1 allowed evolve per turn. Tia, Reina, and Neptune are different.

You're probably right but the cards have different wording so it's stilldebatable.
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>>172348259
>revenue decreases
>just raise the prices

So this... is the power... of... a... business degree... whoa...
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>>172347890
I will personally craft x3 of each if it means bullying D-shit out of the game.
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>>172348323
SV will die in a few months
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>>172348323
>hearthstone is gonna die in a few years
Hearthstone 2 announced? Thanks for the news anon didn't know that one yet
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>>172348435

In the US? Possibly.

In Japan? No way in hell.
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>>172348331
There have and always will be decks that kill dshift before it gets to go off. The decks that beat the dshift killers will be some super slow control lists. I think you can guess which deck will beat those.
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As much as I'd like to see Team 5 get some comeuppance, I doubt that Hearthstone is going to go belly up within the next year or two. Never underestimate blizdrones.
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>>172348435
Very possible if you're talking about the West. It might just go the way of RoB. But, it's here to stay in Japan. You highly underestimate the power of waifus. Hell, they can keep it alive just by offering exclusive Goyblu shit if you play SV. It would bring all the Goyblue whales over.
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>>172348408
They are losing players and new players aren't spending any money so the only choice they have is to squeeze every whale and long time player they have.

I mean they have already shown to be resistant to the tons of abuse Blizzard dishes out to them for the crime of being their customer.
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>>172348304

>Not making your deck insanely inconsistent for the sake of that glorious chin and grin

nah just kidding SV girls are better and more plentiful
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>>172348143
HS's problem isn't even an rps-coinflip problem. The overall viability of decks is just too low. There's way more viable decks in SV that you can do well with, even if there's an RPS problem.
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Why are you guys so tsun for jewstone?
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>>172348524

It has some strong following outside Japan unlike RoB card game.

>>172348323

Hearthstone won't die so easily because all those Blizzdrones will buy anything with a Blizzard tag. Then again whether it is profitable or not is another question. It might go down the road as another HotS.
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>>172348650
I prefer our reno
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>>172348304
this
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>>172348567
But the difference is now there's a control deck that can survive AFTER a D-Shift, which has previously been nearly impossible.
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Why did RoB die?
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>>172348616
> the only choice they have is to squeeze every whale and long time player they have

Or just improve the game so more people want to play it. Simply raising the price on a product is NEVER a long-term solution for a business. Something like this really indicates the game will be dying soon.
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Hey guys where can I PREORDER TotG?
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>>172348860
Why is jewstone so tsun for MTG? You always get compared to you predecessor/competitor. I never see this shit when we bring up YGO or MTG,
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explain how this nigger is fair
>10pp win next turn
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>>172349089
>10PP do nothing
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So what are some possible Wolf memes this expansion?
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>>172349089
>10 pp do nothing
>fanfare: have a 70% chance to draw something useful next turn
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>>172349057
battle.net
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>>172348986
localization team was bunch of jews, Cygames did nothing wrong
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>>172348813

I definitely feel a viability problem up here in masters.

>either has to be able to suppress daria and sword or smorc down dshift

in order to pull off either task, you can't be like "oh i'm going to run a meme deck with X card as the centerpiece" because your deck has to be so focused on burn, or board wiping and healing that you can't even dedicate 6 cards to memes.
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>>172347818
Is gwent the game people occassionally shill here where there's no rng and you get to keep cards you draft? Maybe I should go play that.
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>>172349089
10pp do nothing and "HOPE" you win next turn.
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>>172346968
Lets see what decks can deal with SnekHime on turns 6 or 8
>Forest
Dead on 6, Homecoming on 8
>Sword
If Amelia stuck on the board, Evo + Cyclone on 6
If Banner on board, 0Gelt(from Amelia proc, unlikely), Evo + Cyclone on 6
Tsukkome Evo + Cyclone on 8
Roland + Frontguard stall all 4 sneks, killing 2 on 8
>Rune
Can't spellboost Firechain enough in time
Muta bolt on 6
Calamitous on 6
Petrify to stall combo
>Dragon
t6 Bahamut
t6 Burst stream
Both possible with nutRamp
Odin to stall combo
JO Charged Conflag
>Shadow
Goetia to stall combo
Foul Tempest *2 (Need 11 shadows, impossible unless Minthe) on 6
Nep deals with 2 Sneks while equalizing board on 8
>Blood
Sneks going first
Revelation
>Haven
Just themis bro
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>>172348880

Reno is cutest boy
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>>172349089
>10pp do nothing on the turn it's played
It's a win more card, you can only play it if you already are winning the game.
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>>172349089
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>>172349181
wolf.
anomaly.
win the game.
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>>172348860
N-No one is tsun for your shitty card game! B-Baka!
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>>172349264
I play perfectly then they topdeck and drop that nigger and win the following turn with epic 7 damage burn or 8 damage storm
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>>172348612
>Very possible if you're talking about the West. It might just go the way of RoB. But, it's here to stay in Japan. You highly underestimate the power of waifus. Hell, they can keep it alive just by offering exclusive Goyblu shit if you play SV. It would bring all the Goyblue whales over.

I mean Granblue literally just got an anime. Seems like Cygames is doing very well right now.
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>>172347495
I can't see the hag's hand very well with the webm's quality, but I'm guessing she could have won that? I saw the dance of death but what would do the other 5 damage?
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>>172346962
Please tell me that Gandalf recovered and kicked his ass.
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>>172348880
How do you make those webm's of cards? I have a lot of animated cards that would like to share, but all my webms look like shit.
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>>172346962
>the other player doesnt know what timeless witch is

This is obviously in D rank.
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>>172348402
If Mage allows you to evo both her and every other commander on board that means she's at MINIMUM
>5/5 rush
>3/2 rush
>+1/+0 to everything else on board this turn
Cygames wouldn't print something this retarded, would they?
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>>172348919
shut up nicocchi
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>>172349235
Depends, if you like LifeCoach play Gwent, if you like Krip play SV
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1-drop that's considered a bat for bloodcraft when
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>>172349235
That would be Eternal.

It's dead and you are better off just playing MtG desu.
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>>172349264
>>172349193
>>172349178

6 HP Ward
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>>172348860

Don't get the wrong idea, i-it's not like I like playing with fire and getting everyone in here or anything!
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>>172349420
The tiger
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>>172349212
But classes are within a 5% winrate at masters, from 47% to 52%, and the playrates are also bunched up together fairly well. I guess that's a bad example of "viability" since that could mean as few as 7 decks, but that's still words better than Hearthstone, where three of the nine classes basically don't exist, and the majority of the rest just feel like afterthoughts sometimes, especially as you go up.
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>>172349420
evo tiger -> DoD -> win
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>>172349420
evolve the tiger and hit face.
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>>172349463

But doesn't "allied commanders" mean Mage herself is automatically excluded?
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>>172345672
Closing room now.
Thanks everyone.
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>>172349442
OBS for recording, ffmpeg or webmconverter to make webums
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>>172349731
she's an allied commander, if it said OTHER allied commander than it would exclude her. Learn engrish
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Tell me Haven is gonna be good, guys..
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>>172349731
maybe if it said "all other allied commanders" but the way it's worded looks like mage is included
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>>172349497
make me
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>>172349212
This is more of a problem with D-shift basically forcing the meta to be aggro heavy.

Maybe Roland is the hero we need.
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>>172349897
>she's an allied commander, if it said OTHER allied commander than it would exclude her. Learn engrish

But wouldn't "Allied Commander" = "Commanders allied with Mage?"
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is lightning blast an unironically good card
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>>172349926

Elana will be the new nepnep, as in it's a control deck that eats other control decks and only fears niche matchups.
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>>172349926

Haven is gonna be good m8.
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>Nicoposting is back
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>>172349926
>snek meta
>haven not good
J U S T
U
S
T
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>>172349975
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>>172349607
>>172349652
>>172349713
OH! I didn't even notice she still had an evo point
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is there a way to edit the card art so I can have this image as Prince of DArkness
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>>172350025
The commanders are allied with you and not your opponent, unless one of them is a turncoat.
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>>172350025

Allied with you, anon.

>>172350047

It's usefulness as a tech card is there, but it's still just a tech card.
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>>172349926
Haven is happy not being bottom 2 or 3 as it usually is. Even at its best it was 3rd, so I seriously doubt it will be top, but it's definitely bound to be in a good spot.
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>>172349926
Haven will be great, haven will be best craft in TotG, T1 will have Elana,Storm, Seraph, Sun, PtP-Rabbit, Stealth-Rabbit decks as T1, Eris will receive tons of new art, JoJo portrait and doujins
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>>172349089
>he can't deal with satan and his crew
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>>172350161
>turncoat
when
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>>172349575
Eternal is not that bad, maybe is a bit harder to get your first complete deck but at least it requires more skill than HS or SV a shame it's dead.
And it's not like there's a better card game than MtG desu.
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>>172349089
the only time i see this is in arena right before a concede
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>>172350047
Yes, but I think it's still overhyped.
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Would you put it on?
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>>172349235
Play Krosmaga instead.
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>>172350435
I decided a while ago that I'm not cute enough to crossdress and wouldn't do it unless I magically become so, so no.
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>>172350435
Why is this even a question?
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>>172350435
only if i'll get the princess' cock
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>>172350435
only if I also had a futanari princess to serve
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>>172350435
I want Erika to force me into it then call me a disgusting freak
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>control+f
>ourguy
>no result
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Will there be new prebuilt decks for TotG?
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>>172350695
was posted on the wrong thread I think
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>>172350695
Is Kripp even back from Bahamas yet?
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>>172350435
>you will never try on Erika's meido armor while she's not looking and start fapping while looking at your frilly dress and long stockings, only to have Erika find you and call you a pervert and then start stroking you off with her foot and squeezing your cock between her thighs
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>>172350435

I don't wear my wife's clothing.
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>>172350778
yes, he streamed late last night for a few hours, should be on at normal time tonight. hopefully he'll get an SV stream in before the HS expansion comes out
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>>172350435
https://twitter.com/harima_mekkai/status/730020266336641024
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It will never happen again in TOTG.
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>>172350838

wow, that was an incredibly gay thing to say.
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When's the maintenance?
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>playing against aggro shadow
>hit him
>he plays 2 1/2s and a shadow reaper
>ignore them and hit him again
>ropes and dcs
>>
58280

need concede plz
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48246
No concede onegai
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>>172350695
I can't always make it to start of the thread.
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How much money should I spend on the TotG packs?
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>>172350927
Good to see that the samurai spirit is still alive and strong.
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>>172351257

Their field is going to be a real threat once it's the exact same thing but stickier when ToG hits.

J-just you wait.
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>>172351257
>plays 2 reaper fodder
>dcs
why would anyone do that in that situation

usually you only play 1 other follower along with reaper and it's still good enough
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>>172351442
probably all ur gold unless u like doing take two then save like 1 thousand

i promise u the new packs will have tons of necessary staples
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>>172351283
Thank you pure maiden
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>>172351197
8 am - 6 pm pst
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>>172346195
>they unironically think their craft is honest and balanced
We never said anything about being balanced, just honest. We are supreme tacticians and realize that our craft is strong atm, we'll see how it goes in ToG tho.
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>>172351597
Tell me about Erika, why does she wear the pantsu?
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>>172349507
>play summon bloodkin
>bat gets kaleidoscope'd
>now you have a 1drop bat
already in the game
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>>172350482
What's so great about it that i'd want to play a game that isn't even in english?
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>tfw just got memed by phoenix roost into 5pp Bahamut into 5pp Satan on turn 6.

Unbelievable how lucky your opponents can actually get.
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>>172351649
a lot of loyalty from a hired guard
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>>172351701

>dubcuck
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>>172351649

Do you not wear panties when you are going out?
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>>172351649
For the sake of Hime sama and her sexual desires.
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>>172351728

There is the counter.
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>>172351728
be glad he didn't pull the forbidden combo on you
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>>172351761

This post really nanis my sores.
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>Make absolutely retarded misplay near the end of the game
>Still win due to lucky topdeck

I sure am good at this game haha
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If anyone wants to play T2 until the daily reset I'm waiting.

49050
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>>172350216
>PtP-Rabbit
I actually fought a guy using this. He won.
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Which ward do you run for storm haven?
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>>172352116

Who needs skill when you have Sky Knights?
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>>172352056
>reduced animations setting
I didn't know a Bahamut drop could look this boring.
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I finally succeed the B0 trial.

What is this rank meta?
D was full of sword
C was full of rune
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>>172352385
yeahp and later you get a lot of mixed control and then d-shift .
doesn't matter because everything will change in some hours
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>>172352159
I want to spectate.
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>>172348860

I started in HS, got tired of the bullshit because it showed signs of never changing for the better and began playing SV. Does that make me "Tsun"?
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>>172352560
nah it just makes you lacking in pattern recognition
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>>172352560

It depends, are you talking about the gameplay, or the jewness? or both?
>>
Will Commandercraft be a thing?
What if I want Avant Blader to tutor Tsubaki only?
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>>172352659

>nah it just makes you lacking in pattern recognition

?
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>>172352791
>Will Commandercraft be a thing?
>What if I want Avant Blader to tutor Tsubaki only?

In that case why not use Conscription as your tutor?
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If they nerfed d-shift to be unplayable.
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>>172350927
That's actually cool and a bit erotic too
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>>172352532
Will they change current cards?

Because I doubt the meta will change quickly in low rank unless they pay real money.
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>>172352791
commandercraft with banner?
or commandercraft with cannon?
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>>172349864
Holy shit why is that so hard, am I retarded?
>Can't get to select only a small area to capture with obs
>Have no idea on how to run ffmpeg
>Tried to download webmconcerted from GitHub but HOLY FUCK I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE FUCKING SOURCE CODE GIVE ME A .exe GODDAMIT
Fuck webms, i wanted to share my animated Daria but guess it's a lost cause.
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>>172352791
>Will Commandercraft be a thing?
Yes.
>What if I want Avant Blader to tutor Tsubaki only?
More likely to have Conscription being used.
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>>172353163
One of the gif boards has a webm tutorial peep that.
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>>172353101
>cards?
>Because I doubt the meta will change quickly in low rank unless
they give tons of new cards the low ranks will change too.
the first t1 deck will swarm till everyone tech.

tip:aggro bloos will have 56% of winrate like always in the first week
>>
My wife Forte is so cute.
>>
What happens to ongoing arena runs after an patch usually?
I can still continue with my arena deck after the patch right?
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>>172353358
>tip:aggro bloos will have 56% of winrate like always in the first week

Might not be a ton of aggro blood this time because Midblood is clearly THE deck this next expansion.
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>>172353358
>tip:aggro bloos will have 56% of winrate like always in the first week

As an aggro bats player, my favorite moment.
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>>172353539
yeahp
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>>172353358
>>172353562
>>172353631
Aggro (none meme, established lists) will always do well at the beginning of the expansion when people are experimenting and meming.
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>>172353163
Usually I'd explain in detail what you're doing wrong when it comes to webms but you seem like a lost cause already.
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>>172352159
That was fun Magisa. Thanks for the games!

>>172352550
Maybe next time cutie.
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>>172353631
remember the swordbbs bitching about yurius when RoB was released?
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>>172352385
Sword AND Rune
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Haven't played since around the goblin/piercing rune nerf, has the meta changed at all?

I'm mostly wondering about shadow, but a general on all the classes would be nice if it's not too much to ask
>>
>fighting the same person twice in a row
>he immediately concedes

what the fuck
>>
I started a couple of weeks ago and have zero gold saved up for this expansion. Will have around 300 after today's and tomorrow's quests though and around 4k vials. How screwed am I? How many packs do they give away for new content?
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>>172353983
whatever in some hours everything will change.
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>>172352159
>>172353946
GG. I actually lost the second game with this draft, face dragon op.
>>172352550
No turtles allowed
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>>172353819

I'd hand off the credit to Daria then.
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>>172354075
You're fine if you have some pre-pack meta decks.
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>>172354098
is the expansion coming out in a few hours or something?
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>>172354075
they won't give in ToG free packs are over.
>>
>wake up
>expansion still isn't out
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Lets see your final counts before the expansion; my next missions won't be up until maintenance.

Also finally got a Laura in the 7 match pack, so that was nice.
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>>172354240
Like 30 hours.
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>>172354113
I was so afraid you'd play Khawy I didn't want to overextend, then I topdecked that Emissary. A-all skill.
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>>/v/372091416

Who made this thread?
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>>172354075
Has been 10, plus 1 if you got 1000 score this month. Don't see why they'd change it.

You're fine if still have a couple strong pre-expansion decks. Things won't change that much, particularly for aggro.
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>>172354240
yes

>>172354306
and 10k of vials
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>>172354306
4620
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>>172353854
FUCK YOU I DID IT

>>172353324
Thanks anon, that guide helped alot

Testing if it looks good or it's shit
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>still need twenty private matches
>new expansion in a day
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>>172354075
Did you complete your 20 private matches and beat the elite AI yet?

As a new player you should also use a cheap but effective deck to save up, like aggro bats or royal banner.
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>>172354612
That isn't going to expire.
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>>172354306
That's more than double what I had before RoB.
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>>172354612
84378 join and beat me up, Anon.
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>>172354306
2805, im addicted to t2
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>>172354306
>tfw been willing to start paying crystals for a while now but have no actual need to
I hope they release new decks soon. Also some better alternate skins.
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>>172354681
they will reset and give more 20 private mtaches quest
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>>172354612
just go to the subreddit on it and post an id and wait for people to show up. youll be don ein an hour tops.
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>>172354463
I actually had one in my deck but he didn't want to come out, what a pussy.
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>>172354306
4500
With tomorrow rewards I'll break 4600
With rewards I'll open like 60 packs, which should net me like 7 legos and enough dust to craft the deck I had in mind
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>>172354537
We need more metal cards.
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>>172354306
I might be able to do my set of dailies before maintenance tomorrow if I'm quick about it.
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>>172354889
>telling people to make a Reddit account
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>>172354204
I have Storm Haven, Nephthys Shadow, and a janky Midrange Mary/Laura Blood deck along with the cards for Aggro Blood which people are saying will be the best to play this week?
>>172354251
reeee
>>172354489
Okay, that's good. My score is 9900 so I can get another pack.
>>172354665
I did all the freebie stuff and the elite/elite 2 AI and immediately spent everything on packs... which is how I was able to make the decks I have now lol

thanks guys
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>draft leonidas in take two
>he never shows up outside of mulligan stage
Lazy greek piece of shit has lost me 2 games with his slacking, i'm fucking pissed.
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Made it to clown town just in time for ToG.
>>172353163
My post is a bit late but take a look at this, it's literally just drag/drop
https://github.com/Cephel/4chan-webm-maker
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>>172354916
I always thought the skeleton was fused with the viper, but it looks like he's really riding it.
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>>172354916

We've got Chaos Ship, and RoB has no shortage of metal cards

>Dark Airjammer

Still an awesome name if you're going to name your air guitar.
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>>172354876
>2000 more free Rupies
I wish.
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>>172354916
I think there's plenty. You only need to look.
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>>172354612
Post your code and I'll give you a game.
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>>172354916
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>>172354876
Too good to be true
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>>172354537
looks good
what guide did you use?
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>>172355218
I'm going to find a way to make this card work goddamn it.
>>
36377
no concede pls
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>>172354849
Same. With 86 packs day 1 I'll be able to make whatever I want for the most part. I'd buy more premades if they added RoB ones, there's still a couple leggos from there I wouldn't mind having. I guess they'll wait until next set and do a RoB/ToG set.
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>>172354612
You can easily do all those in a couple of hours, just open a room. Most people did it the moment RoB came out and the general was nothing but room numbers for hours.
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>>172355274
>I'm going to find a way to make this card work goddamn it.

I think it might be possible. It does essentially summon a storm unit every turn even if the value is crap.
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Reminder that if you play Forest you're no different than the Dshitters.
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>>172355274

It provides you a 2/2 with charge so I can see it in aggro.
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>>172355545
What about the 3 people who still play Tempo?
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>>172355271
The one that is pinned on /wsg/
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>>172354306
>700g

Im too addicted collecting animated sets from the Rob set........
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>>172355564
Aggro doesn't generate enough. It can be hard to even get two full power Howls off before the match ends.
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>>172355545

Forest only wins because they calculate correctly and you never play around combo.

>>172355586

I play tempo since forever. I like i more than bolt, OTK or the late PtP deck.
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any announced expansion bonsues? like free packs for logging in or anything?
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Are they gonna give us free packs or shekels again
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Anyone wants to see a card?
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>>172355653
I wanted a playset of Khazia, but I never pulled more 1 after who knows how many packs. I did get 3 animated ducks though.
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>>172355307
thanks dark dragoon
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>>172355653
>addicted
>only has 1 playset
I'm sorry...
Hope you have more on the other pages
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>>172355713

Burial ground m8.

>>172355747

They didn't mention anything yet but we always have free packs.
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>>172355274
If you run this you can't run howl
But beside that it might be okay

Maybe
You need to feed it 12 shadows to make it decent and 20 to make it good

Also additional copies of it are kinda bad to draw
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Another noob question. If I'm in C3 should I go up to B? I've seen a lot of posts saying that you shouldn't rank up too fast as a new player but is it really THAT bad?
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>>172355653

Is this you by any chance anon?
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>tfw playing this game for several months and only now realized that the start screen changes with the time of day
I am not a very clever man.
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>>172355849
Eh, that's two turns wasted playing amulets. I could see it work with Atomeme though.
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>>172355849
they won't give free packs this time m8
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>>172355946

Just rank up. Don't be a pussy. Look at how many masters are here.
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>>172355274
maybe it can work with midnight haunt, burial means you only get to use 3 slots of your board sadly

>>172355816
do veight's evo
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NEed concede please! 48522
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>>172355946
It doesn't get "hard" until you hit the As, moreso the AAs.
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>he's crafting a Dragon deck on day 1

have fun spending 10k vials on your tier 4 deck, loser
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>>172354306
1750, I haven't been playing much as of recent due to the Smash 4 grind
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>>172355946

It's really that bad.
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>>172351701
But it is in english.
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>>172355997
I've realized because I've seen anons post screens where the menu had a different color tint than mine.
That's when I realize there's a day/night difference.
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>>172355946
B is still easy. You lose your streak bonuses at A rank though, making it harder to get monthly rewards. Decide carefully before moving past B3.
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>>172355838
I almost have a page, i just wanyed to show that i have almost all of Rob animated. I'm hunting neutrals down more than anything, as there will always be a use for them.
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>>172356138
but its fine because I can build 2 other full decks too :^)
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>still 2500 points left for my Date sleeves
Really hoping they don't fuck up with the maintenance again.
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>>172355586
You play 35 of the same cards that every other Forest deck plays, nothing changes.
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>>172356072
Thank you porte!
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>>172356229
Ranked was down for something like a full day when RoB came out. There should still be time even if that happens but you might be cutting it close.
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>>172355485
>>172355218
You can get a zombie out of it every single turn if you curve your generators well.

Burial Grounds/Skull Beast
Grave Desecration
>Spartoi Soldier + Free Zombie
>Spartoi Elder + Free Zombie
>almost anything still gets you a zombie because you have shadows to spare at this point

The problem is that it's just a slightly stronger stat curve at the cost of your 2-drop (which is a big deal) and the ability to do pretty much anything other than play spartoi minions. It'll just get rolled over by decks like Daria that get much more value for free, and control decks like haven will absolutely rape you because lmaobanish is such a good mechanic.
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>>172356070
There you go anon
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>>172356234
That applies to most classes though. You can play against a bricked Daria deck and think it was dshit the entire time.
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>>172356138
>10k vials
Try 20k
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>>172356445
veight is such a good fuckboy
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Remember people saying that T2 is gonna have RoB packs at the end of the cycle?
I remember.
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>>172355624
Thanks
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>>172356386

>Spartoi Soliders aren't enough to do the job

When will we get our Spartoi Lord?
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>tfw you waifu saves you from the brink of defeat
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>>172356138
>crafting anything on day 1
>>
How many packs are you buying day one? We get 10 free right off the bat, right?
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>>172355982
Maybe...
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first take two, how did I fuck up
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>>172356902
cygames stopped to give free packs in expansions
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>>172356905
I want to make her a cute little mommy
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>>172356882
>Not having a set of each card from the expansion day 1
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What will be the meta cancer deck in Tempest of the Gods guys? Meta flavor of the month cancer decks are the only decks I play.
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>>172356875
spicy af anon
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>>172356982
anon stopped using english
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>>172356882
You should know enough about the game by know to know what's shit and what's playable. I'd like to play something new, not the same shit I've been playing for 3 months.
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>>172356495
Rune and Forest are the only 2 that this really applies for, except maybe Haven.
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>>172356882
>tier 1 only fuckboy
I'm crafting 3x Magical Big Guys off the bat if I don't find them in packs
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>>172357038
Commander Midsword is going to be absolutely vile
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>>172357024
This, i hope these gold hoarders already have a set of every useful leggo, otherwise whats the point? Even with the new cards I still believe Rob holds the highest value and powercreeped cards.
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>>172356882
Nothing's gonna keep me from meming it up.
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>>172357226
do you have a deck in mind already anon?
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Evolved Blade Mage looks pretty rad
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>>172357258
Will it use cannon though? That's the only way it'll be fun.
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I just made an aggro swordcraft as my first deck like... yesterday

what cards from the new xpac do I need to keep up?
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>>172357226
>>tier 1 only fuckboy
Nah, just a poorfag. I'm going to keep opening packs for 1-2 weeks before crafting anything.
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>>172357368
>i hope these gold hoarders already have a set of every useful leggo,
It's why I started saving so early in the first place. I got insanely lucky with RoB packs. I hope I didn't drain all of my pack luck for TotG.
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>>172357460
ugly*
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>>172357460
you're giving me PTSD flashbacks to all the deaths to this+piercing rune I've had, stop it
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Is this a better pull for a swordcraft start?
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>>172357647
Yeah its okay. You can dust fiary princess for 2.5k vitals and maybe flute.
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>>172357442
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>>172357647
>only 7 legos
nope reroll
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>>172357647
Only 1 Albert. No aurelias, tsubakis, otohimes. Could do better for a swordcraft start but you honestly have a decent roll of cards.
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>>172357847

>Dusting fairy princess

You fucking monster.
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just started but this is bad right

this guy is just asking to be liquefied right
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>>172357647
Albert and Alwida is great, but the other cards I assume you're talking about (White Paladin, Wind God, Fangblade) are used in only a small fraction of decks. Olivia's nice too as a one-of to help rejuvenate your endgame. You have a pretty decent spread of cards, but if you're rerolling then you'll need to keep going.
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>>172353953
OMG 3HP IS OP CYGAMES PLZ NERF NAO
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>>172357368
? But that's exactly why anyone started hording gold. I have every RoB card aside from a couple leggos I don't need, and somehow have never pulled a Sarissa who's cute but useless. There's some Standard bits and pieces I could still use of course, but there's no point in pulling Standard packs as the odds of getting exactly what you wanted are very low.
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>>172357921
Yeah, he's garbage. Was so close to being good if they made him untargetable by spells
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>>172357647
It's fine if you want to play sword, do your newbie stuff and open more RoB packs with the gold and hope to get albert.

>>172357865
Look closely
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>>172357921

I once got him in take 2. I win every game when he is in my starting hand. But it is pretty shit since we have Bel now.
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>>172357647
Just wait until patch day and reroll then.
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>>172357593
Good luck my dude, I got lucky too....to be honest I feel like most ToG Leggos are meme tier, EXCEPT dragons leggos. Im happy with a set of gold and silvers more than anything, especially if they're animated!
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>>172357647
That's a strong pull for your first 30 packs. You can vial the animated princess and Gandalf for another Albert immediately.
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I put in conscription to thin the deck out and draw maid leaders.
Am debating whether to put in Monika or Luminous Mage in the 5 slot.
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Have you bullied a dshift shitter today, /svg/?
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Started playing last night, shit's fun but I'm worried it'll turn into another hearth stone what with new expansions coming out every 3 months with no standard format and accelerated power creep.
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>>172358170

>8 spells

What monstrosity is this?
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>Play one day, 7 win streak
>Play the day after with the exact same deck, 5 lost in a row

Nice game shadowbabs
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>>172358246
people are going to tell you "no bro there is no power creep" but its going to legitimately be a problem with no rotation/banlist

but the likelihood of a rotating format is very high
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>>172358246
Welcome to card games.
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>>172357865
Not only is that NINE legos, you're also forgetting the fact that an animated is worth x2.5, amounting to 11.5 legos.
And already having an Albert saves him 3500 vials.
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>>172358272
swing to survive the early game
conscription for card draw
and cyclone blade to keep the board empty just in case.

Support cannon doesn't hit face unless the opponent's board is empty but either way you get value from having it on the field since it will most likely be a free ping on an enemy follower.
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>>172358368
>amounting to 11.5

Hope you're not playing any roach decks, anon
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Posting best husbando
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what did she do to deserve this
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>>172358343
>card game
>no complicated inputs
>no health bars
>no precision needed
>no 1 frame complicated timings to show your master execution

What did he meme by this?
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>>172358358
This is probably a pretty casual opinion, but I think mtg got it right as far as rotating blocks go*. Because I figure in 2 years, with no formats, getting new players in is gonna be hell

*of course, it was also a ploy to get more shekels
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>>172358665
That's not Albert anon.
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>>172358170
I'd go one step further. remove all officers except Gawain from the deck and replace them with useful neutrals such as Unica. This way you can guarantee a Gawain or two on curve with Conscription.
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>>172358665
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>>172358857
lord of flies is female shitlord
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>>172358678
I always make sure to dick Unica with a Wraith using Medusa's Gaze.
What she deserves for being a cunny.
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>>172358170
Triple Ruthless seems kind of greedy to me. I can't see you getting the Storm effect until turn 7 or so most of the time, since you don't have a permanent Commander until you drop Roland.
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>>172358665
I really wanted to like this card, but it just doesn't work well without Rush.
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>>172358972

Did you just assume it?
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>>172358678
Ate his bread.
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>>172358972
But Beelzebub (the fly in the image), isn't
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Forestfags?
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>>172358857
>that woman in the mage hat chilling next to it

what's her story? did she summon it? is she its concubine for making bug babies?
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>>172358741
No matter the format, the fact of the matter is there is very little skill in card games and that's just fine, if they can still be "fun". Probably the biggest part of skill in card games in my honest opinion is deck building, which hardly matters when everyone can just netdeck. Luck and bluffing holds a bigger role outsise of Digital CCGs but even then the deck does most of the work.
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>>172358217
I sincerely hope you roped him first. Otherwise they don't learn.
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>>172358170
garbage
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>>172358972
Then why is Erika always mating with him?
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>>172358746
>>172359005
Thanks, these are good suggestions.
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>>172359232

>Unga sword

Pot calling the kettle black.
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>>172358343
Almost like it's glorified RPS
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>tfw you drop morde in t2 and they just concede
cards probably too good for arena desu
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>>172357847
>>172357908
>>172357950
>>172358049
>>172358151
Thanks allot for the advice! I'm keeping this one then.
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>>172359256
She's the lord of the flies.
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>>172359327
I didn't but I did report him for disconnecting
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>>172359495
>Lurching corpse is female

Is everything female!!!?
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>>172359668
It's waifuverse bro.
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>>172359668
albert and yurius are pretty much female
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31158
No concede please
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Court jester card for royalcraft when?
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>>172359345
show
pics
now
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Nung na nung!
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More bounce effect for forest when?
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>>172359853
Thanks Vampy bro
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>>172359495
She's not.
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>>172359807
Which has the better pucci?
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Just started, this is my Lego pull. Is this even half decent?
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>>172360210
>No Atomy
reroll
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>>172358217
Did we bully the same guy? Just got done beating a dshift player with the same cardback.

Idiot wasted a flame destroyer to kill my shrine knight maiden.
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>>172360210
Pretty good actually. Everything except maybe Eidolon is playable.
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>>172360210
A good spread. No real good concentration for a single deck.
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Fairy Caster is cutest husbando
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>>172360372
I believe mine was named "tilly"
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>>172357647
Anon, just take your high dust rolls and play around with decks until the expansion hits. You're going to have 10 more packs to roll with, which is on average an entire additional legendary.

For an average start you just want 1 legendary per 8 packs, maybe 1 in 3 of those actually being good, and around 2 legendaries you know you want is very good to have. You can go for maybe 1 in 6 packs if you have patience and free time, but don't be too greedy. What people don't realize is that getting a "great" roll is actually harder than it used to be. Back in the day people rolled like 15 packs for 4+ legendaries, a very good ratio that was feasible because a low sample makes for a wider variation in rolls. You're probably rolling 3 or 4 times as many packs, meaning you're going to have a MUCH harder time getting anything other than an average roll in terms of quantity.

Don't ignore gold cards either. A gold card you'd craft is 800 dust while a legendary you'd dust is 1k. If you get a gold that you definitely know you're going to want then you can consider that as being almost a legendary you don't.

Tl;dr: Going for high quantity rolls is a bad idea at this point. Prioritize getting cards you want out of the gate instead. If you're not sure of what you want to play (you probably aren't) then just play some accounts knowing you're going to throw them away anyway (and craft on them aggressively) until you get a better idea of what kind of playstyle you want to pursue. This is particularly the case right now since the meta is going to change in like a day and you're going to get another 10 packs added to your reroll pool.

The most important thing to remember is that this is a game that gives you a lot of shit over the long term as well, not just the short term. Even if you get a starting advantage it'll be dwarfed by your total card pool in a month or two. You just want to know you have something you like playing in that time.
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>>172360323
Why would he want a shit meme lego?
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17532
Need one more no concede
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What does JP Goblin mage say when she comes into play, I can't really make it out
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>>172360210
Pretty good pull yeah
Tia is forests second best lego
Forte is dragon's best lego
Seraph has an entire deck build around her which is somewhat viable

Mary is fun card, not meta though
Otohime is good, but not meta again
Ignore saha for now

Olivia is a nice card that can be teched into a lot of decks
Not a win condition, but a good card if you need some extra power in the late

Keep if you wanna play dragon,forest or haven
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???
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>>172357647
You're getting 10 packs tomorrow, why are you rerolling now?
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>>172360660

Just thermis it bruh
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>>172360453
Different guy I guess, he dc'd on me when I had lethal so I was hoping it was the same guy who was sick of being bullied by bunnies.
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>>172360660
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>>172360660
>tfw never see daria in AA anymore
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>>172360158
>She's not.
Here, read a little
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beelzebub
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>>172360660
Just like
Lightning blast it away bro
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>>172360583
Thank you!
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>>172360660
Outplayed.
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>>172360660
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>>172360807
No u.
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/d/%8E%CD%8E%DE%8E%D9%8E%BE%8E%DE%8E%CC%8E%DE%8E%CC%8E%DE%20%28%8E%DA%8E%BC%8E%DE%8E%AA%8E%DD%8E%C4%8E%DE%29
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>>172360660
I really hope they pack some Daria nerfs into the next set. She's actually ruining the goddamn game.
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>cygames don't announced free packs for ToG

they did it for DE abd RoB is fulljew time now?
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TSUKOME TSUKOME

SONO KUBI MORAIMASU~~~
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>>172361408
>For the first week of ToG, packs can only be acquired through gem purchases
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>>172361238
What is this supposed to prove?
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>>172360210
Imo you should just play on this account then reroll tomorrow after maintenance, since you'll be able to reroll for another expansion's legendaries (tempest of gods) on top of standard/darkness/bahamut.
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>>172361496
>can only be purchased with crystals
>prices reduced to 25 crystals per pack for the first week
How jew would you go
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>>172361531
How can the witch with the hat be lord of the flies if Beelzebub, aka lord of the flies in the game doesn't look anything like her?
The giant fly is her familiar
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will i get bullied for playing eidolon?
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>>172360194
veight
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>>172346019
Conjuring Snowmen is pretty tight, your chart is invalid. Nobody expects the 16/2 penguin wizard
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Bet she didn't expect this lethal.
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>>172361408
The RoB packs announcement on their website was dated after the release of the expansion. I don't see one for DE either.
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Truly amazing deck, he just doesn't have a window for seraph.
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>>172346089

Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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>Last 4 cards are 2 D.shifts and 2 flame destroyers
I think I'm getting scammed, how the fuck can this happen? I just want to get my daily mission done.
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can i get a poverty aggro forest list?
I dont mind making roach or elf but i don't want to commit to a list until a bit after tempest
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>>172361920
That's one of the biggest overlooked weaknesses of Seraph. They have to actually play an 8 mana do nothing.
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>>172362094
Decks with a 4-card combo are relatively inconsistent.
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>>172361976
>Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks
>Don't liquefy your cards in general
these statements are getting more ridiculous as time goes on
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>>172362192
Brainlets here don't understand the meaning of pressure
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>>172361875
I did that to an unga shadow who had a khawy on the field.

Good times.
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>>172362094
Welcome to actually playing DShift.
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>>172362287
>pressure

Remove storm and rush from your cheap bullshit cards and you'll fold on turn 8 like every other deck does.
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concede please
45992
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>>172362509
? what
I'm agreeing with you
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>>172361920
Sword is amazing vs all of the TX do nothing decks. It's pretty much never safe to do nothing vs Sword lategame.
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Reminder that this is your last chance to throw Gobu and Feena in the dumpster for full value.
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What's the most broken 2PP follower, and why is it Levi?
IDS JUSDD LIKE BAG IN DA OLDD DAYS :DDD
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>>172361976
>netdecking
>netdecking budget decks
Other than this, good advice. Although it should be mentioned that leeching private matches off from other forums is a viable alternative to asking in the thread.

If anon is going to actually learn the game and git gud in arena he shouldn't need to rob himself of the poverty deckbuilding experience. There's no reason to actively climb ranked anyway.
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>>172360472
>What people don't realize is that getting a "great" roll is actually harder than it used to be. Back in the day people rolled like 15 packs for 4+ legendaries, a very good ratio that was feasible because a low sample makes for a wider variation in rolls. You're probably rolling 3 or 4 times as many packs, meaning you're going to have a MUCH harder time getting anything other than an average roll in terms of quantity.
What? 3.5% of 15 pack samples will have 4 or more legendaries, 3% of 30 pack samples will have 7 or more legendaries. 97th percentile rolls are still 97th percentile rolls, it's not any easier or harder to get an above average roll. You won't get the same ratios, but that's not relevant to how exceptional a roll is.
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>>172362595
It's not that they can't understand. They just can't pressure because no matter what you do, you get removed unless every card is instant value with storm.
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>>172362509
>complains about cheap bullshit cards
>has themis
You're not one to talk.
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>>172347967
Like the others said, it's 1 evo per turn that you manually do. So if you play elven princess mage into titania's into elder treant you would be able to play the 2 faeries, evolve 1, then the treant would evolve from its effect. You can't play a fairy, evolve it for free with titania's then play and evolve a forest gigas for example.
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>>172362653
Good call. Not like you can't just craft them again for no loss if they actually turn out useful.
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>>172345165
Arisa's pussy still stinks
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>>172362878
6 pp and kills your own board. hardly the most op or broken thing in this game.
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>>172362676
It's roach.
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>>172362878
LOL, what a faggot!
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>>172362878
I don't even play Haven. I'm just saying that barging about "pressure" with infinite storm is no better than retarded haven shitters bragging about themising a board, pretending they've outplayed the opponent.
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>>172362676
>What's the most broken 2PP follower
Also good looking swing animation.
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>>172362953
In a cute way
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>>172363125
>needs board to do anything
>best
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>>172362816
>>172362585
Thanks frank!
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Shadowbabs could something like this work?
Suggestions?
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>>172362946
Unless you main Forest I'm not seeing it. Daria will still want a couple PRs, but those two have completely disappeared outside of that. I guess Dragon OTK memes run them still, but they have legit deck options next set and don't need to resort to that anymore.
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>>172363008
>and kills your own board
Actually no, it doesn't involve your precious amulets, that's the bullshit part about themis.
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77108
Playing a suicide blood deck for the private match gold achievement, please come beat me up.
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>>172362692
Are you saying that the chance of getting 16 legendaries in 2 packs is the same as getting 8 legendaries in one pack?
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>>172363284
Okay, top3 maybe. I like this guy.
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>>172346929

How does she even control a tail that weighs more than she does
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>>172362676
Roach by far.
Levi is cancer though
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>>172348612
RoB died because the localization team was literally not doing their jobs which meant western players weren't getting key event stuff which they needed to stay competitive. Basically, they learned that burgers are irredeemable thieving cunts.

>>172349181
Wolf anomaly or forest dragon to play a target immune anomaly to get hit by winter's caprice next turn
You can fill wolf turns with titania's faeries and vist to stall while you build a hand of an ancient forest dragon and 2-3 forest gigas

>>172349238
Nobody remembers that rune have winter's caprice too that bricks their board without still giving them 8 face on their turn

>>172350710
Not announced but there should be with RoB legos. At least if kikegames wants to rake in sheckles.
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>>172363437
if it banished, you wouldnt be able to have last words to counter it and would be useless as fuck for a class built on amulets. stop being a moron.
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>>172363365
Kelana will save Gobu and Feena. Maybe.
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>>172363347
really weak early game and lacking good removal
non of your 2 drops can trade into anything
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>>172363485
96053
Second verse same as the first.
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>>172363437
You realize most traditional control decks specifically don't run creatures so that they don't get hurt by their own board wipes, right? Perhaps if this wasn't your first card game, you would know this.
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>>172364196
This is not mtg and stop trying to make it so.
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>>172362692
>>172363513
Disregard that, I didn't actually read the post because I assumed that contesting the actual point and not a completely inane semantics issue.

No you are not any less likely to get "lucky". Yes you are, in fact, getting less total dust advantage for getting "lucky" the more packs you reroll, thus making it less of an advantage and less worth the time and effort.

So for all intents and purposes, rerolling pays off considerably less than it used to, and will continue to pay off less the bigger the pool gets.

I apologize for the confusion.
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>Rune goes second and has Levi on turn 4, 5 and 6
This has happened 5 times today
Fuck this faggot craft
Fuck you too if you play it
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>>172364109
I don't think removal is such a big problem but you're right about 2 drops, maybe mummies could be good
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>>172363994
Then revelation, cyclone blade, breath of the salamander are also useless since they destroy allied followers too. Destroying your followers in follower based deck is fine but destroying your amulets in amulet based deck isn't.
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>>172364110
16401
And a third.
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>>172363125
Great summoning animation too.
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>>172364379
>breath of the salamander
what
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>>172364465
You don't have to change the match ID every time, just stay in the menu and wait for new opponents.
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>playing cancer Daria on unranked against my meme deck
>I am about to drop my meme
>concedes
Fuck those people.
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>>172364286
Doesn't address my point.

The same logic applies to nearly all class-specific mechanics in the game.

Forest isn't hurt by bounce spells because they gain from playing cards many times.
Blood isn't hurt by self-damage because they gain from being at low health.
Dragon isn't hurt by a high concentration of expensive followers because they ramp.

Decks are built around the mechanics given to them. If you can't handle that, you're the guy that whines when someone uses a strategy that they don't know how to beat. You have no place here.
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>>172356138

Try 45k
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>>172352791
It already is with arthur's light. You use ironwrought fortress to generate followers you buff then use the storm and stat boost to chip to win or drop resolve and kill from hand

In TotG, you'll be able to swap in support cannon instead of light so instead of trading with old commanders, they just kill on play and let you go face
Ironwrought-light will get more board spread, ramp and a lightning rod in luminous mage and gawain
Luminous standard will have its moments since it can push some key drops to trade 2 for 1 instead of 1 for 1 but I don't think it'll have the gas to make tier 2

While not commandcraft, Gawain will help slow down and ramp up memes in the sky for a t7-8 Leonidas into a t9 Otomemer activation for 17 face that is potentially cheap enough for a swordsman or something to clear a ward
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>>172364673
>Forest isn't hurt by bounce spells because they gain from playing cards many times.
Forest doesn't treat bounce as a cost in any of their cards.

>Blood isn't hurt by self-damage
This just plain isn't true.

>Dragon isn't hurt by a high concentration of expensive followers because they ramp.
There's literally nothing stopping Dragon from building a normal curve.

Meanwhile Themis is a hard clear with a "drawback" that doesn't even affect Haven's board presence in many cases. If Themis were neutral it would be played in literally every control deck, not just Haven for """"synergy"""".
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>>172364310
>Rune goes second and has Levi on turn 4, 5 and 6

I do that at least twice per day.
It feels so good.
Sometimes I fap after I do that and I drop Daria into double Ogler
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>>172360764

its turn 5 anon
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>>172365150
this sort of degeneracy is why god has forsaken humanity
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>>172348143
What's rps??
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How do I make Satan Dragon good? I just want the good old Darkness Evolved days back
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>>172365374
roleplay sex
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>>172365374
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Nep is legit fun, why the hate? Is a balanced deck
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>>172364310
My least favorite meme. Right next to T4, 5 and 6 Floral evolves and T6 and 7 Death's Breath.
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>>172365374
Rock paper scissors.
One deck beats a deck but loses to other deck and it's about who wins round 1 basically.
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>>172355274
They want you to use it with Othrus, prince catacomb, curse of rebirth, dolorblade, etc to generate value trades into a death's breath stabilization then run over the board with eachtar, minthe, death's breath and undying until they keel over before the bahamuts start flying.
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>>172365129
Forest doesn't treat bounce as a cost because it isn't, it's a benefit that's unique to them because of their ability.

Blood gains from self-damage because their unique ability helps them when low on health.

There's nothing stopping dragon from building a normal curve, except for its unique ability to ramp and get extra benefits from playing lower-cost followers when they have lots of PP.

What would normally be a "cost" in shadow, killing one's own followers, is often a benefit due to their last words and shadows.

"If Themis were neutral" isn't an argument, because it isn't neutral. Your only counterpoint thus far has been "this game shouldn't have similarities to MTG," which hasn't been explained in any way, and is pretty null since the devs are MTG players who ported many of the aspects of the game over to this one.
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>>172365389
Throw Stan in Sahaluci
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>>172365389
Satan is a decent addition to Saha decks.
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>>172365558
>8pp 5/5 that summons mordecai, kills the strongest enemy follower + restores health, and summons a lich
>balanced
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>>172365558
kys
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>>172365678
>>172365702

>le 45% winrate deck

I said GOOD decks, not tier 4 decks
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>>172356867
Never. They don't want to obsolete dullahan
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>>172364673
>The same logic applies to nearly all class-specific mechanics in the game.
Exept control decks have to play followers.
>Forest isn't hurt by bounce spells because they gain from playing cards many times.
I was talking specifically about themis. Just look at other board clear spells, most of them have downsides, the risk to hurt your allies or use sigil, etc. Themis just wipes, tt's not like i wine or don't know how to deal with it, just telling obvious things, it doesn't touch your amulets and you can even play themis with storm based deck. That's far from being balanced, I realize that haven's not the best class atm but i am not talking about the whole class, just particular spell.
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Will I finally get 5 wins in take 2?
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>>172365389
Honestly Satan just isn't that good if it isnt played early enough and you dont have good draws.

In this meta its a 10pp do nothing and hope you draw something good next turn.

Even in saha luci decks Im inclined not to play satan unless i have at least 2 sahas and 1 luci in hand.

Im honestly going to replace satan with the new angel next expansion cause to many crafts have easy access to removal ward and heals making the whole point of satan decks null.

Its cool but a lot of people have easy counter plays to it now.
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>Clarke and 3 Oglers turn 4
How am I supposed to just Themis this?
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>tfw two fire chains with 20 spellboosts
Kek.
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>>172365720
Yeah, and it has to build and gimp its entire deck around doing that.

>lich
Even in decks that run attendant, it's only about a 1/3 chance.
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>>172365720
The game can be decided by that turn, is not THAT strong, is a legendary for something tho
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>>172365801
>self-reported winrates
Pffft.
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>>172361793

>A noble lord of the underworld, served by grotesque vermin that devour any who would harm their master.

>Seated upon a mountain of skulls, the lord calmly partakes of his meal. There's no hurry. After all, the souls of the underworld are countless.

so, lord of the flies is male and seats on the throne

i.e. he is the giant fly on the art, even if we assume that the witch on his lap identifies herself as "he", she is stitting on his lap, not on a throne, while if you look attentively, the fly is sitting on a throne

that's also leaving aside that the main focus of the art is on the fly too, the witch is just a minor decoration
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>>172358007
Psssst, galretto
You can also t6 him with bloody mary and not give a fuck
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>>172365558
>why do people hate this curate that plays aegis and tribunal at the same time
i wonder
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>>172364534
My bad, actually thought about conflagration.
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>>172365841
>implying you're not going to get rekt by some legendless nip with a perfect curve
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>>172365937
"he has to build a deck around it" is not a valid argument for something being balanced. try telling that to dshift or roach decks

>>172365946
"the game can be decided by the time it works" is the same argument people make for dshift
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>>172365908
And then 2 Levis back to back. Boy am I glad this meta is almost over.
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>>172365829
Salamander's breath just wipes.
Will of the forest just wipes.
Calamitous curse just wipes.
Ancient lion spirit just wipes.

How are you defining balanced? It's a card that's useful because it plays around the deck's strategy. Why would I play followers in a deck that regularly plans to wipe all followers, and then win with an OTK card? There's no point.
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>>172366146
>is the same argument people make for dshift
when you drop D-shit you most likely won the game, when you drop nep is not decided 100% yet
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>tfw your winstreak gets ended by a turn 4 daria into double oogler
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
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>>172366035
>you will never be a giant fly that just chills upon mountains of skulls with a cute witch concubine
Why live?
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>>172366248
Daria isn't going anywhere.
If anything the board flood will just get worse since other classes will have access to 1card summon 5 as well.
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>>172361314
Pray with me brother,
Just revelationx3 bro!
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>>172366095
>faced a perfect aggro deck
>4 hp on turn 5
>mfw aurelia single handedly turned the game around
Truly the best waifu
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>>172366320
it's still a retardedly powerful effect for 8pp, especially with a 5/5 body attached

also it limits design space, now they can't give shadow / neutral cards powerful last words effects because it'd make nep more broken
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>>172366146
D-shift doesn't have the restriction nep does. Roach at most has to exclude 1cost followers but even then there exist roach decks that forgo that restriction for a more consistent early game.

The restriction placed upon nep lends the deck to naturally having weak turns where it can't curve out well which is why it has an unfavorable matchup against midrange sword and tempo rune.
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>>172361314
Nerf the tier 1 craft first, then we'll talk.
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>>172366035
What are you even on about?
You DO know that the original name for this specific fly card in RoB is "Beelzebub's familiar", while Beelzebub is >>172360158.
They just changed it for SV.
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>>172366721
Daria is tier 1
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>>172366523
She's truly the most beautiful waifu.
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>>172366759
Not anymore.

Game Ai moved it into low tier 2
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>>172365829
>Nothing can burn fast enough
>Can't play followers in DELETDELETDELETDELETDELET verse
>Wards and heals on the board cucking storm
>Seraph gets played under destruction amulets
>It's a race to see who has more odins or seraphs
>Win because I can tutor seraphs
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>>172366759
According to who?
>>
Does expansion hit today in nip land or tommorow?
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will my aggro sword deck be ok post-expac???????
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>>172354916
Damn straight
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Is it even possible to play around Khawy? Or is free Last Word effects just a natural bullshit gimmick to Shadow like Spellboost to Rune and Amulets to Haven
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>>172366523
Can't wait for turn 8, potentially 7 Leonidas.
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>>172366818
>gameai
Wow, almost gave a fuck.
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>>172366818
Game AI is retarded. Ever since they put saha-luci ramp t1 like the week it won a tourney it lost all credibility.

>>172366886
They both hit tomorrow which for them is Friday

>>172366956
Yes. Control will be better at shutting you down but it wont be enough
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>>172367026
Why shouldn't we follow GameAI's tier list? And whose tier list should we follow, and why should we follow it?
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>>172366818
>low
What did he mean by this?
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>>172367003
Just summon a bunch of small followers and go -3 to kill one khawy
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>>172366624
>also it limits design space
This is such a bullshit argument. Do you realize how many cards in SV "limit design space"?

Roach limits forest getting more cheap spells.

Daria limits how many more cost reduction followers Rune can get.

Haven is getting an 8/8 that literally cannot be interacted with in any meaningful way in the game. Which along with decks like Dshift, completely shut off cards in any class designed around attrition or long term value.

Don't try to act like you're some kind of forward thinker who's concerned with the health of the game. You just dislike a certain deck and grasp at whatever straw you can find to support your salt.
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>>172366818
>gameai
You mean the same brainlets who have d-shift, a 44.5% winrate deck in tier 1, while Daria, a 53% winrate deck, is somehow in tier 2 for them?

>>172366857
Anyone who isn't a double digit IQ brainlet.
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>>172367175
They just got a chimera. They don't give a fuck
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>>172367175
everything you said is completely right though, roach, daria, and haven does literally limit design space
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>>172366294
>just wipes.
Yea, sure, don't even want to argue cause all of those are obviously have condition and not "just wipes".
>>172366294
>How are you defining balanced?
Balanced board clears should have conditions, drawbacks. Not just wipe everything on board. That's what i call balanced. For example cyclone needs a follower with high atk, will of the forest requires to have cards in hand, ancient lion spirit just does 2 dmg to all enemy followers, not clears or banishes everything and requires evolve. Just read card descriptions, i don't want to repeat everything.
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>>172367137
Make your own opinions and don't trust self-reported wins?
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>>172366818
no they didn't
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How do you build control forest? How are you supposed to build shadows for elf queen or activate combos if you have so many lategame cards?
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>>172367214
No arguments spotted here.
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>>172367314
>literal factual objective stats are somehow not an argument
lol
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>>172367302
You just get them as a function of not dying
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>>172366624
>give shadow a "broken" effect that is exactly the same cost as an existing follower
>you now have to choose what you want instead of just throwing in the most OP cards in, like every single other class

I'd welcome a card that can be a nice alternative for Kamura/Morde for even more variation.
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>>172367302
>control forest
Just like bounce tia 20 times bro
Don't forget your odins
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>>172367214
they have dshift in tier 2 and aria in tier 1 though
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>>172367214
No, he means the ones that actually kept Daria in T1 while stuffing DShift in T2. You're all just blindly following the words of a shitposter without actually bothering to find things out for yourself.
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>>172365638
>Forest doesn't treat bounce as a cost because it isn't, it's a benefit that's unique to them because of their ability.
Meaning your comparison doesn't work, as Themis full wiping is treated as a cost and why it's 6 mana.

>Blood gains from self-damage because their unique ability helps them when low on health.
They still lose HP, which they need to not die, which is why they suck against anything with burst. Self-harm cards will kill them outright if their HP is too low. Meanwhile Themis costs nothing when your board is empty or full of amulets.

>except for its unique ability to ramp and get extra benefits from playing lower-cost followers when they have lots of PP.
Do you know what the word "stop" means?

>What would normally be a "cost" in shadow, killing one's own followers, is often a benefit due to their last words and shadows.
Shadow's cost actually requires you to have something to sacrifice in the first place, as well as actually sacrifice it. Themis is unconditional and often free.

>"If Themis were neutral" isn't an argument
Good thing that wasn't the argument. The argument was that Themis' drawback is so trivial that you don't even need Haven's tools to exploit it, with it being neutral simply being used as an example.
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>>172366818
u wot m8?
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>>172367175
>Haven is getting an 8/8 that literally cannot be interacted with in any meaningful way in the game.

And that will be tier 5 at best. mods pls nerf haven plox
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>>172367175
i don't give a shit about nep, i play fucking haven

that doesn't prevent me from thinking it's a dumb card that shouldn't exist, just like roach shouldn't
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Is there any better feeling?
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>>172367261
I'm not asking you to repeat anything, because I would see no point in you doing so. Every card I mentioned there is unconditional. You play the card, pay its PP / evolution, and the effect printed on the card occurs. You haven't put forth any reasoning why Themis should cost more other than simply stating "it should, due to my own definition of what's balanced." Also forgot to mention lightning breath, which by your definition, would also be unbalanced. Again, card games have functioned just fine with control decks that spam board wipes while playing no followers themselves. You have put forth no reason why this should change.
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>>172367302
you can build it as """control"""" forest with roach or go full control with teena and jungle alberts

in the first scenario fairy beast is better since you have fairy generators, in the second elf queen is better but your only "combo" card will probably be glimmering wings.
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I am completely new and was wondering if there is any downside to playing the steam version. can i play against any other player from different regions still? Am i missing out on any content? Seems like the only thing minor annoyance is changing the language
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>>172367583
>replying to a shadowbab and saying you play Haven in the same post
Boy he's about to start mentioning the 6 trillion banished last words and how Haven is the most broken tier 0 craft in the game again
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>>172367137
Tournament results.
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>>172367467
>T1
>no deck counters them
Don't you classify decks that beat all other decks T0?

According to my logic that would mean than all T2 decks are actually T1
And that means Dragon IS T1 BABY
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>>172367380
Do you have any evidence showing their winrates and what tiers the decks were in at the time?
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>>172367709
There's no downside other than having to use an android emulator or your phone to reroll, you can, you're not.
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>>172367175
>Roach limits forest getting more cheap spells.
This is why forest is getting shit cards.

>Daria limits how many more cost reduction followers Rune can get.
This is why only dirt is getting good cards
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Could I get a concede?
55436
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>>172367467
What's the difference between midrange and aggro sword? Like 2 cards?
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>>172367529
>No longer comrade Dorothy Tempovich
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>>172367809
Aggro evolves as soon as possible, midrange saves evo points for turn 9 albert :^)
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>>172367809
Aggro runs the 1 pp spell that adds 1 damage and draws a card
Midrange has tsubakis instead, since it doesn't aim to end the game on T6 and has the realistic approuch of ending the game turn 7 instead
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>>172367807
Thanks Eris
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>>172367583
Nobody is telling you that you can't have your own stupid opinions.

Just don't try to back them up by saying shit like "it limits design space" when Cygames has pretty evidently already abandoned "limiting design" space as a design constraint.
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Do any fellow Elana players use Uriel? I'm not drawing any Elanas lately.
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>>172367809
This is their example list for Aggro. It doesn't have any of those cards that let you clear board while saving evo points like Angel of the Word or Jeno, and has more Commander/Officer interactions.
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>against rowen
>super expensive sahaluci deck
>slaps legos left and right
>against forte
>cheap face dragon deck
>plays goblins and carrots
And that's why you buy the packs instead
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>>172367763
There's counters to both Daria and Albert.
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>drop Seraph with only 1 CD reduction in hand
>emote constantly
>opponent concedes on their turn
LOL
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You WILL HEAR
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>>172368334
>Gabriel
Uh?
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>>172368340
I bought Forte and played Ramp Dragon on Steam release. Face Dragon > Ramp Dragon right now anyway.
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>>172368334
>Gelt
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>>172368264
Uriel is an option (so is Prism), yes.

Or just add more card draw.
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>>172368473
Tsubaki into Gab is pretty strong m8. You can also quick blader into Gab on 8.
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>>172367636
>Every card I mentioned there is unconditional.
Try to play will of the forest with just that card in hand and enjoy your time. That's what i mean by "condition", specific condition to activate this card and make it stronger, just like with cyclone.

>You haven't put forth any reasoning why Themis should cost more
It's not about cost. it's about risks of playing such retarded spells. Haven's the only craft which has close to zero risks involving themis, due to their amulets, you can read it as "easiest to pull board wipe". Just put "banish one random amulet for ally and enemy" and it becames balanced immediately. But with weak class like haven we can't just do that, we have to rebalance the whole craft or add some strong cards to compensate.

>You have put forth no reason why this should change.
I am not sure if you're trolling or being serious. Plenty of reasons here, just reread. Here's the short explanation - strong board clears without drawback is bad and unhealthy design.
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>1PP roach

Rowen you madman
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>>172368595
Prism Priestess only gets countdown cards so she wouldn't work unless you're playing Seraph too.
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>>172368595
Never mind, Prism doesn't work.
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>>172349202
Bullshit Cygames were huge jews with RoB and GBF after that. They are literally only generous with Shadowverse.
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>>172368264
I thought Prism only put amulets with countdowns into your hand
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>>172368212
are there recent cards that limit design space? sure, minthe and blood moon are good examples. but there are almost none that go so far as to limit neutral cards

i wouldn't be surprised if they made goblin princess weaker just because it could be thrown into nep decks
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>>172368702
Why do you assume that "killing your own entire fucking board" isn't a cost?

Dragon doesn't even have to do that.
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I wish I could use my spells as instants
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>>172368836
>limit neutral cards
There should be a cap on how many neutral cards Dragon can have.
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>>172368702
You aren't explaining what I would gain from Themis having a bigger drawback. I still haven't seen any reasoning. You've attempted to do so by saying "strong board clears without drawback is bad and unhealthy design." Why? Again, what do I gain as a player, playing with and against Themis, by having Themis have a bigger drawback?
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>>172369007
But then how will they play Impartial Strix
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I cant fucking win as dragon, what do i do? its my quest
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>>172368438
Is that some face dragon? Post dick
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>pick haven in t2
>2 olivias
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>>172368836
>i wouldn't be surprised if they made goblin princess weaker just because it could be thrown into nep decks

That's some next level reaching right there. Especially funny coming form a class that literally got an invincible, unremovable 8/8.
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>>172369080
OTK and budget face
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>>172369196
Offscreen are 3x Ivory and 3x Gob. I was playing storm ramp, but this is a lot better. It wins all the same against D.Shift, but does a lot better against aggro thanks to the pings.
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>game down for 24 hours
What are we gonna do bros?
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>>172369548
I'm gonna jerk off to Kig porn.
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>>172368836
>limit neutral cards

I don't know, I don't think they could design too many crazy ones because it always benefits dragon the most solely because of the ramp mechanic. If they ever made a neutral that just guarantees a win on the spot then dragon would destroy every single control/midrange deck in the game.

They could literally never print something like Aegis that is usable by dragon because that shit would be coming out on turn 6. Its probably why they're so afraid of printing powerhouse cards or are trying out the turn limiter legendaries like Sybil. If she didn't have the turn limiter on the ramp she would be insane.
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>>172369548
what we always do bro
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>>172361920
Havencraft is the only honestcraft and the Chemocraft of this game.
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>>172369548
Post waifus
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>>172369640
kig?
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>>172369548
Aegis shitposting
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>>172369548
>24 hours
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>>172369815
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>>172369692
Post it.
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>>172369893
>necroassin the 9pp do nothing
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>>172369849
Those anime girl masks
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>>172369548
post webms and pretend we're playing
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While waiting for ToG to come out, I've progressed further in my other card game.

I just beat some black nigger called Kevin who used a pumped up Frost Giant guardian that deals 330 damage a pop with my green deck.

Got some good cards as drops after the match
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>>172369849
Kigurumi
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>>172366523
not a perfect draw then, a perfect draw aggro would then finish you off with burn (lots of ways from angel/ambling + claw/dstrike to vampy shananigans) or would kill aurelia (i mean i have won games vs maximally enhanced evolved aurelia as aggro blood)
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>>172369548
Unless you're counting the inevitable extra maintenance, it's only going to be down for 10. And the most irrelevant 10 for the majority of burgers at that.
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>>172369815
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>>172369692

You know the drill anon
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31920

concede pls
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Who's the boss now swordbab?
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>>172369950
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Who else is playing gorillacraft to boost the playrate while raking in free wins to encourage nerfing it?
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>>172370018

Into the trash it goes
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>>172370164
what
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>>172369962
>>172370054
How do people jerk to this?
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>>172370089
>tfw lost the sauce
>tfw lost all my brownish girls/gyaru hentai list
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>>172370167
Your mom's already there
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>>172370018
>no waifus
Shit game.
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>>172370089
https://exhentai.org/g/886666/2c901e53da/
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>>172370270
It has elements of bondage and genderbending.

Imagine a hot girl locking you into one of those suits with a dildo up your ass and forcing you to walk around in public. You could be squirming in pleasure and no one would know.
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>>172365829
It costs 6 meaning you skip a whole turn to wipe the board, and in this game its not a big deal. Storm and lastw ord followers are abundant or just value cards as a whole. In Darkness evolve its was one of the strongest spells in the game because it was the ONLY biard wipe. Now theres a ton of board wipe and follower value with RUSH, STORM, SHIT OUT MINION FOLLOWERS, which no longer gives a fuck if you themis or not, that's why they gave Havencraft Tribunal which is a good card. If board clears where so prevalent Bahamut would be the only meta allowed, but since rush stotm and early board flood is the norm turn 6 remove a body who already dealt face dmg isnt a big deal. If you don't understand this pls kill yourself, thank you.
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>>172370119

trust no one, not even yourself

thx
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87635
may i have a concede
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>>172368875
>Why do you assume that "killing your own entire fucking board" isn't a cost?
Because it doesn't kill your full of amulets board, they're protected. Fuck your board but keep mine, because amulets are core mechanic for haven and followers isn't core mechanic for sword and sigils isn't core mechanic for rune.

>>172369048
>You aren't explaining what I would gain from Themis having a bigger drawback
It's not like you as a haven player should gain something from balancing tweak. Rune doesn't gain anything from piercing rune nerf but it was required to make that spell balanced. Haven gains nothing, harder to use themis just makes their game more complex and some people consider it more fun. There's not much fun if you just remove stuff, not for you and not for your opponents who have to use complex board clears.
For me, the game with thinner line of decision making is more appealing.
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>>172370148
one of my favorite artists, the one where the girl whores herself out to all the homeless guys is the best
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>>172369548
but its up??????
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>>172368654
not as strong as tsubaki into arriet
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>>172369815
>Best ass
>best feet
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>>172360158
bug synergy when?
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>>172370018
The fuck is this?
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>>172370552
thanks a lot
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>>172370382
you shut your whore mouth
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>>172349258
Tomboy, you mean.
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>>172370426

Thanks anon
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>>172370342
>"losing" sauce
>on 4chan, in 2017
disdain for plebs.jpg
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>>172370763
i could do it but i had i list of top tier gyary hentais to share.
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>>172370664
beast dominator has the best feet
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>>172370559
Let me tell you something: I don't actually own a single copy of Themis. I'm not speaking from a place of them nerfing a card that I own. But I do have to consider what will happen in the future, when I eventually own it, and how it will affect the game I'm playing today. Despite playing against Themis, I still wouldn't say it needs to be nerfed. I can understand you now with wanting complexity, but not everything needs to be complex. If you want a more complex board clear, you don't have to play haven, you already said classes with those more complex ones exist. But what constitutes fun is extremely variable for each person. I respect your taste, but that's not the only factor in the game.
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>>172369815
>>
>patching starts 4 pm
>patching ends when it's like 2 am in europe
Fucking nips
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>Play against Haven
>Every single time all D.shifts are in the last 10 cards
I can believe that this happens once or twice but it happens literally every time I play against Haven.
Are they rigging D.shift to give Haven a chance?
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>>172370703
a better game than Shadowverse before ToG comes out
>>
Why do Sword and Shadow have wards that are overwhelmingly stronger than any other cards with ward?
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>>172346429
>SD
>garbage
You'll be proven wrong tomorrow.
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Is it accurate?
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>>172370940
>this post
is like the first good post of the year
>>
49026
Need a concede please.
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>>172368438
except i wont really? the only thing that will be heard is a dragon cock going into your tight little ass, and your moans
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Liquefied neptits.
Eachtar filling the board with rush 4-2 in t7 is much better.
Maybe i should liquefy morde too, since even dragon can banish now and he is slow af.
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>>172371172
They're the two classes with the heaviest focus on the board.

Contrast to Rune, a class focused mostly on the hand, that has very few wards (unless we're talking Dirt, which uses a dozen copies of the same ward).
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>>172370664
how can non elves even compete?
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>>172369548
>only 24 hours
You're too naive, anon.
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>>172369548

Fapping to oppai lolis and nobody can stop me
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>>172363667
>How does she even control a tail that weighs more than she does

Reptile tails can be extremely muscular, anon.
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>>172370664
nice horse indeed
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>>172371191
Is that countdown until the maint starts or ends?

>>172371668
>oppai
You sick bastard.
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Aiming for those private match rupies, playing suicide blood join PLS

83433
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>>172371417
Thanks, fellow Flipbro.
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>>172371740
I am not sure, someone posted it in the thread.
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>>172371695

Doesnt matter if the tail itself is muscular if there aint much on the other end to actually balance the control.

She is literally a freak that would need someone to carry the tail for her.
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>>172371191
i don't think the 1 day should be there
6 PM PT March 29 is 1 hour 37 min from now
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>>172363667
never underestimate tail muscles
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>>172371740
>maint starts or ends?
Is this a trick question?
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Dshift cant handle the lightning.
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>>172370559
Do you not understand why themis has no cost besides just playing it? It's because the class is about being slow but snowballing, amulets with countdowns are a cost, imagine every storm card in the game was an amulet, every class would be slower and play the same. You need to understand card design, i really think you're to retarded to comprehend this.
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>>172371549
>>172371549
>>172371549
migrate
quick!
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>>172369548
Reading femdom ryona doujin
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>>172371952
anon please
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>>172371880
First of all that tail is not bigger than her.

2nd of all its fluff

3rd its anime physics
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>>172371878
hello timetraveller
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>>172372032
>its anime physics
well, what the fuck do you think are playing?
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>>172371878
I think the 1 day should definitely be there
TotG is 1 day 1 hour and a half away
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>>172371952
Shadowverse is NOT a roguelike.
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>>172371952
poschengband shilling in my /svg/?
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>>172372032
crocodiles have tails bigger than them


tfw no fluffy tail/
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>have lethal next turn
>dariashitter quits and I get this error

So if I press retry I'll get a loss too right?

Goddammit I'll never finish this Bloodcraft quest
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>>172372187
vampy? more like trampy!
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>>172371910
>It's because the class is about being slow but snowballing
Yes, especially storm haven decks, those are slowest in the game sarcasm. You're the only retard here who uses card design to justify broken spells.
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>>172372116

A card game, but you cant just take 1 point of out context, look at the first two points too.

Anon please
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>>172372318

Did you miss the part about tail:Body ratio?

Her main body is not as big as a crocodile
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>>172372353
How the fuck can you have trouble doing Bloodcraft?
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>>172371741
still looking for people roll up roll up
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>>172372385
we need another poll, which leader would most likely participate in a slut parade
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>>172371129
The only VN with a card game attached that I know of is Arterial of Origin and it doesn't look like that. Name?
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Concede pls
21185
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>>172372529
they kill yurius up here in masters
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>>172371952
PozCuminButt is not a card game and not even a good roguelike.. Lenley would be disappointed in you anon.
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>>172372628
I could include that one in the list of polls to do. Though I have already done one a little similar: Who would enjoy having sex in a public place the most. Depends on how much you would differentiate public nudity with public sex.
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is the end of shadowbbs
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>>172372857
Sometimes I don't play Yurius first for that reason
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>>172372854
Thanks Mommy Forte. Please don't have anymore seizures though
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>>172372926
don't relate my favorite class to garbage like that please
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>>172372926
big floppy dragon tiddies
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>>172371849
>Doesnt matter if the tail itself is muscular if there aint much on the other end to actually balance the control.
>She is literally a freak that would need someone to carry the tail for her.

Wrong.

She would probably move using her tail to support like a Wallaby or a Kangaroo.

It's a very efficient form of locomotion.
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>>172372926
>you will never be serviced by Lucoa

Why even live?
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>>172373158
>>172373143shadowbbs will die
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>>172373352
If I'm going to die I want to be smothered by fat dragon tits.
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>>172373352
Dumb sample poster
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>>172372742
>Name
Verethragna ~Seisen no Duelist~
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is this the last thread
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>>172345143
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>>172373859
>>172345143
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>>172370883
Beast dom's feet smells awful

Pegasus elf's feet smells like sunflowers
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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