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kill all Luna players

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>tfw mord gets cucked even harder by haven and dragon tomorrow

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15688
concede please

>>172324371
>>172324431
This is kinda insane desu. I've stopped vialing "bad cards" after about a month of play, only vial extra cards and still have enough vials to craft 2-3 legos every 2 weeks, even with me saving all my gold for the expansion.
If I dust all the x3 copies I have of all the silvers I'm never going to play I can probably make much more.

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>>172324657
The day is coming

http://usamin.love/card/floral_fencer/j_death.wav
http://usamin.love/card/rabbit_necromancer/j_death.wav

>Walfrid, legend in the sky, got only 1 card and it's not even that good
>Lecia, his useless daughter who abandoned her duty to chase after cocks, got 2 OP cards
Explain this shadowbabbs

>>172324723
HS is bigger premium game
It pulls more demand so it costs more to play

>link shadowverse with another service
what does this even mean I want 3 packs

>>172324717
thanks neptits

>>172324760
mst of jap neets can't fap to walfried

>>172324869
play it on an emulator or your phone and link it to your google play/facebook account

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Isn't the Shadoverse manga anthology out already? Does anyone managed to get their hands on a copy? Or is it already available on the net somewhere?

tfw losing all the time

>>172324869
It's too difficult to explain

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>>172324774

>>172324725

It can't come soon enough.

>>172324760
Chasing after cocks is a noble aspiration.

>>172324723
Good thing aboutt SV is that a pack nets you 8 cards. You will soon gain back the collection of useless gold/silver you have vialed.

It's okay to turn them into vials. It's not like that Front Lines will be meta overnight.

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How fucked am I?

>>172324760
Walfrid will be more useful than ambush liza and meme cannon

>>172324760
everyone loves sluts

Will Rimewind ever be meta?

>>172324760
Waifu > dad

At least in nipland.

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>>172324817
A-Anyone

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FUCKING SHIT GUYS

WOLFBOLT AND ROWEN ARE FUCKING UNSTOPPABLE
FORGET ABOUT SWORD
>100% WIN RATE
NERF ROWEN!
NERF FOREST!

>>172324949
If there's one thing hs is better at is this fucking slut. Goddamn, I've fapped so many times to her bikini pic.

>>172325028
Eh, if you get really lucky it might not be that bad. Not gonna gain much extra dust, though.

>>172325028
Not that fucked since you will get several free packs to add to this number.
50/50 pray to the gods for good pulls and you should be fine.

>>172325028
You'll be that one guy who'll only get 2 shitty golds and the ginger and rake in all those sweet pity (you)'s

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How many expansions do you think they get by recycling RoB art?

Captcha: babby listen

>>172325028
20 + 10 (free) packs on first day, hope to pull at least 3 legos

>>172325102
Thanks Morde!

>>172325218
They will pull the plug the moment they run out

Oy mates. Anyone else need to get the "play a private match without quitting" missions for 100 rupees each done? I'm at 8/20 so far. Please join in. Playing a suicide bloodcraft deck to make it quick.

87986

Excluding outliers like Aggro Blood or wallet ramp, an average meta deck is what, 3 legendaries, a handful of golds and the rest silver/bronze, let's say 15k vials. I know HS has much shittier rates, but how much dust does an average deck cost?

>Elana vs Daria
>17 cards left in deck
>don't pull single board clear
fuck this

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Sneak peek at next week's meta.

IT'S JUST LIKE BACK IN THE OLD DAYS!

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>>172325156
>this slut better than our channeru girls
I implore you to reconsider.

can't even win one match against actual players

>>172325331
kys dubcuck

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>>172325028
You are like a little baby

>>172325360
Have Sugita talked about SV in any of the Encounter epiodes?

>>172325305
Even Pirate Warrior requires you to have one legendary, so that's 1600 dust. There is also the issue that most good cards are from those adventures, which requires 2800 gold in average each.

>>172325108
>0% vs Rune
New chemo?

>>172325218
depends on how many we still have left, divide that number by ~100 and you have your answer

>win 4 matches with Rune
>oh easy
>brick 5 times in a row
wow nice game shadowbabs

>>172325393
>having to go through an ordeal every day to get JP voices back cause of patches

I know most of you don't care, but some of you wanted me to stream opening 150 packs when the expac hits. But I got hit with a severe cold and lost my voice as a result. So it's not gonna happen. Sorry, to those few of you.

>>172325370
Post your deck

>>172325459
>ordeal
>literally 2minutes max
>i can listen to the based jap dub for tens or hundred hours until the next patch

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the game is really fucked right now because of albert
he's 3/5 and can attack face the same turn for 5 mana, but you can evolve him for 5/7
that's 25% of your hp gone from 1 card with no combo needed
now if he's played on turn 9, he can attack twice which means 10 face damage (50% of your hp pool)
but there's more! he is also invincible while attacking the turn he is play which means he can rip through wards the same turn
all of this ONLY with one card
but wait! he also has a mentor with 100% change to pull him for only 2 mana
now all of this may seem pretty good, but the real deal breaker is that he is in swordcraft which means there are followers with rush, storm, ward, and even bane printed on everything else in the deck
just imagine a pirate aggro deck that usually kills you on turn 5 or 6 but can also deal 15 face damage to you on turn 9 just in case you managed to survive
got wards? too bad! any ward you play by turn 3 can be killed while leaving a 4/x minion on board
got late game wards? too bad! fangblade can kill any minion and deal 3 face damage while leaving a minion on board to do the same thing next turn (in addition to albert's removal ability)
every sword deck runs 3 and there is no reason not too
the game devs realized they fucked up and are printing a shit ton of commander deck buffs to encourage people to play a deck with only commanders instead of just albert (this way he can't be mentored)
if they nerfed him everyone would get 12k vials at the start of a brand new expansion to craft whatever deck they want and they don't want people to get too much free shit otherwise they won't make any money
copied and pasted from /hsg/
do they know the game better than us?

>>172325578
We know already. No need for this retarded wall of text.

>>172325331
>not ITDS LIGE BAGG IN DE OLD DAYS :DDDDD

>>172325434
I think he even played it one episode.

>>172325360
Sorry man. I just have a thing with short-haired girls. Plus she's hot.

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>>172325419
Says the toddler.

>>172325305
I don't know the exact price, but here's the deal: in SV you can do quest to buy 1 pack a day and still have a bit of gold left. Usually I get around 150-200 vials from those packs just by pressing the liquidfy button.
In HS you can buy a pack every 2-3 days, depend on the quest.
When I want to craft a deck in SV, I go through my collection to dust garbage silvers and golds. When I want to craft a deck in HS, you bet your ass I will need to either spend $50 upward, or dust half my fucking collection.

>>172325002
I know, I'm just doing it for collection's sake.
I'm sitting on 3 rose queens, Soul Dealer and Beast Dominator for no reason. Also 3 Orb dragons for example.

Would Albert be good but not broken if his evolve were +1/+1 instead?

>>172325542
>doesn't even speak Japanese who he has no idea what they are saying

>>172325028
Started RoB with the same amount. You'll be fine after a week or two.

>>172325736
Just one less health on evolve would be fine honestly. It's just that nothing can deal with an evolved Albert by evolving itself, since 7 health is just too damn much.

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>>172325736
he needs to not have 7 defense

>>172325736
I'd rather just take away 1 health from Albert. As it is currently it is impossible to cleanly deal with a turn 5 Albert without a hard removal.

>>172325745
But I do speak English and understand how awful the voices are.

>>172325735
I won't turn legendaries into vial unless I have more than a playset, and even then, the silver/gold is more than enough to suffice myself.

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Now that Dark Jeanne is a thing, can we have a Dark Aurelia next?

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What is his endgame?

>go first
>lose
epic

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Why did they change the classes names in the translation? FYI
Elf -> Forestcraft
Royal -> Swordcraft
Witch -> Runecraft
Necromancer -> Shadowcraft
Vampire -> Bloodcraft
Bishop -> Havencraft
Forte -> Rowen

Whats wrong with using classic rpg classes names? Do they really think these classes names appeal to hs players? Like Hey this is called ___craft too so you should play this.

>>172325930
Summon daria evolve and trade
pretty clean

>>172325028
I stocked 1k for RoB and still ended up with:
>4 Alberts (vialed 1)
>2 Sahas
>2 Bahas
>4 Wolves (vialed 1)
>3 Darias
>2 Nep
>1 Dragoon (vialed 1)
You'll be fine.

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elf!

>>172326005
ah yes, classic rpg names such as forte and rowen
really makes me think of dragons

>>172326005
_craft sounds more edgy

I'm so amazed by your sick plays Dariashitters. Truly sick plays.

>>172325853
>>172325876
This. Albert was never really a problem in the control decks that used him as a finisher. The game was around finished by that point anyways.

He's bullshit now because he's a 5 7 storm on turn 5, they can then make another 5 7 storm on turn 6 if they want. And the worst part is that if all else fails they can still do the 10 damage finisher in the lategame, when other aggro decks had run out of steam.

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>>172325969
Dark Dingdong when?

>>172325287
Thanks m8s.

At 10/20 right now. Still looking for people to do the private match missions without conceding with.

Code is 87986.

>>172326067
But we're not crafting anything

>>172325578
tempo rune kills any version of sword and also kills dshift

>>172326102
>2/0
>last word
>discard a card
Fund it

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>>172326102
No

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Very nice.

3/4 games of on curve CerbHowl, with the other game being against Dshift where drawing Howl late was okay.

>>172326042
>Fairy Princess still not viable
It hurts. What kind of card have to be printed to make her relevant?

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>>172326102
Easy.

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Magisa is for _____

>>172326138
>2pp discard a card
stop stealing rowen's cards

>>172326119
"Craft" like an art or skill, you nerd.

>>172326179
A card that turns your fairies into crimson sorceries

>>172326220
shitters with terrible taste

>>172326258
So basically Rose Queen powercreep

Is face dragon getting anything good in tempest?

>>172326231
You can have them. Not like he's making discard work anyway,

>>172326220
Mating press.

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when will she be viable shadowbros

>against sword
>he misses his 2 pp play
>instantly win on the back of that
I thought the day would never come, where I meet a bricking sword

>>172326287
Basically.

>>172326306
>Is face dragon getting anything good in tempest?
They are getting Aina, but she isn't good.

>>172326321
my dick thinks she's viable

When will this "aggro shit that doesn't run out of steam" meme fucking end already? Why not remove the weaknesses of other archetypes too?

>>172326138
Only if it had Storm.

>>172326258
How about a card that randomly turns each of your Fairies into either a Roach, a Nature's Guidance or an Angelic Snipe

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Roughly 24 hours until maintenance and 34 hours for new meta. Have you theorycrafted the deck to try out?

>>172326408
Aggro decks do run out of steam.

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>try shadowverse cause some guy keeps shitposting in the hearthstone general
>read the new players guide
>get my take two tickets
>play a couple
>end up going 5-0 6 times in a row
I thought people were better in this game?

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>>172326424

>>172326450
And then they topdeck albert for lethal

>>172326424
I wish Atomy actually becomes good so I have a reason to craft it

>>172326458
How about to back up your claims nerd.

>>172326458
Post proof

>>172326487
If they are topdecking they ran out of steam.

>>172326179
Fairy princess is one of the best animated cards. I will never dust it even though she is useless.

>>172326458
If you have any experience with card games it's not hard to make the right plays. The rest is deckbuilding and not bricking.

>>172326524
>not crafting our lord and saviour regardless of meta
You sorry fool, you could not be the chosen one.

>>172326458
Mostly beginners play the Arena

If you want a challenge you should look for a skill based game though

>>172326404
Your dick also told you the Senran Kagura games are worth spending money on and look where that got you.

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The next main tourney will be held on friday since saturday is bad for me this time.
Or is that too early? Sunday is the other option, but we'd have to do it earlier than usual.

Also, I'll hold a small single elimination T2 tourney on thursday if there is interest.

Is streamanon, or any streamanon here for those days? The weekend one won't happen without a stream, but i think i'll hold the T2 one regardless (if it happens in the first place).

How many perfect arena runs do you need for taker of two?

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>the only class that has ever done better than sword was forest
>if forest any any point in time does better than the most popular sword deck it get's nerf
>forest was nerfed 3 times
>rune and shadow have never surpassed sword and both were nerfed (rune was nerfed twice)
>sword has never been nerfed

just some food for though

>>172326585
I'm sorry senpai, I'm vial poor

>>172326542
Then won regardless, so it doesn't matter if their hand is full, or has two cards. As some put it, having card advantage just means you'll have more options you can't use

>>172326612
Is that your Reimu man?

>>172326306
Sibyl, Nereid, Scyther.

Although I can't speak with any authority on the subject since I haven't used or encountered the deck much.

>Sahaquiel's celestial harem will keep increasing with every new expansion
Horrifying

>>172326608
>projecting
I pirated it.

>>172326102
dongding?

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>>172326632
Doesn't face dragon have a higher win rate than sword right now?

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>>172321829
>Netdecking niggers always playing on easy mode.
My daria decks are always fresh and homebrew. You don't need to netdeck to know that iceform and cheap spells destroys aggro. Made this one just for a few days until expansion hits.

Now show me your homebrew deck. nii chan.

>>172326629
20, I think

>>172326220
Wild sex.

>>172326632
>rune has never surpassed sword
Nice lie.

>>172326450
>Daria
>OTK roach
>""""midrange"""" Sword
Yes, they're all aggro decks. Play 1 fucking big finisher or late game card doesn't make you not aggro. OTK roach had the most aggressive early game out of any deck in the fucking game with endless 1 drops. Daria never runs out of cards, just shits a board, burns face, reload hand, rinse and repeat, and finally, "midrange" just goes face mindlessly til they draw one of their 6 Alberts to finish the game, because a 10 damage 1 card for 9 mana is balanced for a fucking aggro deck apparently, when control decks can't dream of doing that much without a big combo.

>>172326424
>Atomeme
Nice, epic, I like it.

>>172326706
Truly the sluttiest angel

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Who else /animated Satan/ here?

You jelly, poorfags?

2 copy limit for legendary when?
9 free packs for 9 million downloads when?
When should we expect some free shit? I mean any BIG holyday in weebland soon?

>>172326813
Don't need to be. I have animated Forte and Bahamut.

>>172326774
>Daria is aggro
Ignored.

>>172326716
Quite the meme there.

>play "control" sword
>lose to some ptp forest nigger because he magically had 2 ptp left in hand after two back to back altered fates.

Fuck this game.

>>172326813
Not me. It's my only animate lego though.

>>172326813
I actually am
I pulled 3 satans
Wish I could turn them in for an animated one

>>172326718
>Homebrew
Looks like every other daria deck to me.

>>172326716
Finally, we can bench that useless piece of shit Veight. 2 health fucking ward in a game where even aggro decks run 2 mana removal, and literally every fucking AoE that's played hits it? What a worthless card.

Don't even care about the enhance effect, Grimnir fixes a hole in the curve of a lot of control decks.

>>172325578
No. It just casually leaves out all the counters and every weakness of that deck. Budget blood aggro has a great chance of victory too.

>>172326718
>My daria decks are always fresh and homebrew.

That's because Daria pretty much makes itself. Your deck doesn't look any different than any other's, except you have wind blast and witchbolt for no reason.

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>3 of my 5 games won today were dcs

>>172326813
check out animated hungering horde, it's amazing how good cards look when you add in the lighting effect

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>>172326813
It looks nice, maybe i'll get one at some point.

>>172326813
Very. I always fucking die of jealousy whenever my enemy plays an animated one right after I play my regular one.

also, post a webm of it

>>172326130
>tempo rune kills any version of sword
Control sword shits on temporune with aurelia.

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>>172326813
Got mine a few days ago.

I fear for my Tempest pack RNG.

What is the difference between elite and elite 2 AI? Should I beat both, do both give rewards?

>>172326469
>that lone masamune
>only 2 fervor

I know sibyl is the new hotness, but I think 2 sibyl and 3 fervor will be better.

>>172327026
they're both easy as fuck
yes
yes

>>172327026
Different decks, beat both for $$$

>>172327026
Elite 2 is harder, you get 200g per win, that's a grand total of 2.8k gold for 14 AI games.

>>172327026
Both give you 200 gold each for beating them, so that's 2800 total.

Elite 1 is a cakewalk, elite 2 Arisa is a little tricky.

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Vampy-chan wants you to lick her feet!

>>172326774
Daria is not aggro.
Roach was an Aggro Forest variant pre-nerf. Nowadays it is not.
Midrange Sword builds have started to drop some number of 1 drops and other cards for Fangblade, Avant and/or Aurelia, what makes them true Midrange.
Go back to your shitter rank, D0

66248

>>172326813
does it make all apoc cards animated too?

>>172326612
thursday and friday sound good

>>172327112
It's Vania.

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>>172326548
>Playing unranked against forest with my Albert sword for dailies
>Opponent managed to play an animated Fairy Princess, generating 7 animated fairies
>evo and attack a minion with her
>I saber strike him for the win
>Even though I won I felt like I've lost

>>172327225
kill yourself autist

>>172327112
She's gotta lick something of mine firs

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>>172326424

i theoricrafted a couple of decks, already posted them here to ask advice - ramp ouroboros midrange and burn&storm blood midrange (with no leggos btw), but the dragon one looks too expensive with a questionable efficiency, and i am not sure about the blood one too

>>172327019
You've never played Control Sword. It was by far CSword's worst match up before the nerfs (when the deck was doing good thanks to its Roach match up) and it still is in Daria's favor. Their followers are too far for Aurelia to be of any relevance.

t. Control Unga main

>>172327118
>None combo burn deck is not aggro
>Deck was aggro for over 50% of the expansion, but now it isn't, so that doesn't count :^)))))))
>Deck played pure aggro the moment others were nerfed, but a week away from the new expansion some new jank variants started experimenting with a more midrangey list, so that also doesn't as aggro anymore ;)
End yourself.

>>172326612
Please make this one at a more human time, thanks.

>>172327302
*too fat
Also, when I say the worst match up, I am not counting DShift.

>>172327121
cheers

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>>172326424
ready to get master

>>172327130
Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpSQVHwucbM&feature=youtu.be

go to 10:14

>>172327225
That's her!

>>172327275
put yurius in the first one and it's perfect

>haven't played in several months, even before the last expansion
>but have logged in faithfully every day since I stopped playing and now have 2k rupies

Is 2.7k geld and 12k vials enough for ToG? I'm starting to get worried.

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>>172327450
>not playing 3x dragonslayer's price

>>172327532
>no one cares

>>172326957
>>172326130
can't believe I'm actually reading this shit
roach had multiple counters and decks like c sword were an automatic victory against it as well
but everyone complained
now it's swords turn to be completely broken but it's okay because
>lol there is this one other deck that has a positive win rate against it

>>172327569
Probably not enough, depends on what you need I guess. There's more legendaries this time around, so it will be harder to get the ones you need through packs.

Friendly reminder that ranked was down for a while after RoB came out so today might be your last day to get sleeves

>>172327676
Dude albertcraft will die in 2 days, shut up.

>>172327505
cutting 1 grimnir and 1 summon bloodkin? the space is kind of tight

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>>172326948
Every other daria deck uses demonics and dods instead of withbolts and wind blasts.You can't change a lot in daria deck anyway. The concept is still the same - get as much draw as you can and pull daria with cheap followers. New chimera is also horrible for daria.
>>172326971
>That's because Daria pretty much makes itself.
It's because you don't have a lot of different followers to spellboost. What can i chose? Get a few flame destroyers instead of something and that's it. Rune blade summoner might've been a viable option but clarke/craig can't spellboost him, only spells. In the end i can only change a few spells in this deck.

>>172327676

Unga sword cannot into rigourous mental activity, you must forgive them.

>>172327694
My fault for wasting shekels in Arena. At least I have vials for 3x of any leggo?

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>>172327275
This is my take on ouro ramp
Should work better than yours, it's only a little different from my current dragon deck which I use to climb in Masters with

>>172327676
wolfbolt wins it too

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Aggro shadow vs aggro blood vs aggro sword vs face dragon. Who is the king of aggro?

>>172327676
Oh its this shitty ''just play wards bro'' argument.EVERYONE FUCKING KNOWS THAT WORDS DON'T DO SHIT AGAINST ROACH FUCK YOU FORESTNIGGER

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Just in case you are wondering, this is what people are currently defending

>>172327756
cut all of the grimnirs, he seems better for control

>>172327720
OH SHIT

>>172327842
well, it's full control

ouroboros is probably better in control though

>>172327863
>even with bats

That's a filthy lie.

>>172327863
>doesn't have a positive winrate in mirror

it's balanced

>>172327863
Just tech against it bro haha

How the fuck do I win as shadow """aggro"""? The moment I try playing this shit deck I queue into a forest nigger with turn 3 and turn 5 Ancient 5/7 ancient elves. No need to mention that Cerberus in nowhere to be seen and you run out of cards and options by turn 5.

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>>172326424
The more I look at this the more I think Wolfbolt will just be better.

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>>172327863
aaaand this is what they WHERE defending last month as
>it's just like aggro blood because the meta is changing
>the win rates will stabilize retard

>>172327857
Sword, because it's "gimmick" is good followers, instead of an actual gimmick. Blood just kys, Shadow needs to jump too many hoops "Shadow reaper board, combo with ghosts), and Dragon is too easy to shutdown, because Forte is the only real threat, and she gets cucked by a single ward.

None of the other aggro decks have cards as good as Jeno, Alwida, or Albert.

>>172327905
even aggro blood runs 3x veight and aggro sword runs 3x vet lancer... face dragon sometimes runs imprisoned dragons, i think shadow is the only aggro that doesn't run wards (it often runs unica though)

>>172327857
blood ez

#11713

Please concede. If you want to play the match for the 20 wins, spam emotes when it starts.

>>172328039
i was one of the people saying that

i regret every word

>>172327983
post deck and rank

you're most likely doing something wrong

>>172327842
>>172327450
As someone who's played a lot of Saha Ramp I think it's going the way of the dodo and these new storm related variants are going to reign.

>>172327740

You are implying they didn't get a lot of good cards from ToG too.

>>172327859

Sure thing Unga sword. Roach is just 1/1 at the end of the turn. And if forest run them into the ward they can't return roaches into their hand anymore. The problem is you didn't run stronger and bulkier ward.

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r8 my memes

not pictured: 2x Blazing Breath, 3x Ivory Dragon

>>172328110
sword is much weaker vs wards than aggro blood because it has less burn

>>172328170
>As someone who's played a lot of Saha Ramp I think it's going the way of the dodo

Good fucking riddance.

>>172328118
aggro blood runs veight because of the bats, not the ward

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>>172327375
so you mean earlier?

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>>172328157
Thanks Luna.

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>lose 7 games in a row with a variety of decks
>try """"mid"""sword after not having played sword in months
>5 game winning streak, one of the games with me bricking hard early on

>>172328187
If you honestly think that wards stop Roach you are a shitter.

>Sure thing Unga sword.
I play every craft except Dragon.

>>172328254
They run it because it's a 3/2 you can't ignore

>>172328039
Aggro Blood is a real aggro deck, with real aggro deck weaknesses. It lives and dies by its curve, and runs out of steam. A single fucking heal can shutdown the deck. """midrange""" Sword has no such weaknesses, because it deals half your life with 1 card, and 25% of your life with the other 2 copies. This doesn't account for 3x Alwida (9 damage), 3x Quick Blader (3 damage), 3x 3 mana slut (6 damage), any copies of Fangblade, and DoD. This is all 100% damage from hand, we're not accounting for a single face hit.

>>172328170
I already dropped saha luci memes in favour of this deck that I currently run

>>172328217
>prince as win con
>sybil polluting the emissary pool
Seems okay
Maybe consider running urds for silent rider synergy and additional ramp with aiela

>>172328361
you don't usually ignore a 3/2 anyways

What is the strongest loli deck right now?

>2 expansions in a row there is no good forest card
>People still bitch about roach when it is the least of their problem

Forest is one bad expansion away from having less than 45% winrate. They seriously need another good return effect and reduce hand cost effect.

>>172327594
Don't be mad at me because you didn't save up rupies for the new expansion

>>172327302
>You've never played Control Sword.
You don't need to play control sword to get how aurelia works against constant spam of followers and you have decent chance to get her with maid leader.
> It was by far CSword's worst match up before the nerfs
So you're comparing CSword to daria before the nerfs for the sake of an argument, nice.

It's weird that you don't understand your deck's strength, even tho you're sword main. Even shadowlog tells that csword's advantageous in such game, but it should be obvious without such date. Csword just has plenty of tools to stall until it gets to stronger late game.

>>172328334
dunno, i usually have it vice versa

>>172328169
It's the same deck that's been around forever. x3 everything with skeleton knights and 1 soul conversion. I'm in AA3.
It's fucking impossible. Not to mention I constantly matched against haven if I try playing anything else shadow who always have 3 scriptures and 2 Odins in hand.

>>172328240
>What are rush followers
Reach is worthless if you can't get them down low enough, and Blood can't get them down low enough, because it has no way of dealing with wards efficiently. Whereas Sword can shit out a Jeno that trades for a ward, and leaves a 4/x behind.

>>172328415
Aggro Luna

>>172328418
Cry more bitch nigga

>>172328418
>I want turn 5 roach lethals

>>172328386
Maybe it's because midrange sword isn't aggro so why would you be comparing it to aggro blood?

Sword actually has an aggro variant and it has the same weaknesses.

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>>172326424
My memes are ready

>>172328350

Oh shit! Roaches can get pass ward!


Tell me how does forest kill your ward? You are just being greedy and didn't include enough wards.

>>172328553
>its not aggro
>basically aggro with albert

>>172328418
>Forest is one bad expansion away from having less than 45% winrate.
Cry the fuck more nigger. We have classes right now that have hit 45% winrate multiple times, and they're not classes that were fucking tier 1 for multiple expansion. Fuck outta here with that, Forest, Rune, and Sword need to be bottom tier unplayable for at least 2 expansion to balance out. Yes, yes, "why make x bad, instead of making y good!", but shit doesn't work that way, balance is a zero sum game. Some classes have to be bad for others to be good, and in Shadowverse, the good classes are always Forest, Sword, and Rune, at the cost of Blood, Dragon, and Haven.

>>172328246
>hating fun decks

>>172327857
1. Aggro sword (i think i don't need to explain)
2. Face dragon (good against every other deck)
3. Aggro shadow (shits on aggro blood)
4. Aggro blood

>>172328387
Urd is just win-more bullshit. Using it on Aiela is too slow against most decks, and if you play Prince you've usually already won. The only decent target is Bellringer, but Urd is not worth running over something that actually affects the board like Siegfried.

>>172328648
I've seen Roach overcome ward through Homecoming, but it's rare.

>>172328387
Mind posting what you run now?

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>>172328690
>no shadow
>Haven, a class full of hard removal and I win cards

>>172328508
suiciding jeno into a ward on turn 6 for two 1/1 is a powerful play?

powerful play it's when you on t6 remove enhanced death breath, all its 3 wards, and deal 3 face damage with 1 spell

blood also has a spell that removes wards while also spawning bats

leaving aside that on turn 6 you theoretically can do 9 burn damage (6 burn damage as either demonic + claw or 2 claws is pretty common) and finish them off without worrying about removing wards whatsoever

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Post justice

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>>172326424
I've never been good at card games. Will probably netdeck after a 4 loss streak.

>>172328539

>Implying we only play roach

Forest's hand is so easy to read as you always know the exact cards are in part of their hands most of the time. And they only have one turn to work with. You just didn't think through hard enough at your turn to counter them.

>>172328753
aggro shadow and face dragon are memes

>>172328753
Is face dragon really that good now or is this a meme? I don't think i've ever lost to it.

>>172328313
Yes, before midnight yuro if possible.

>>172328690
Face dragon has the highest win rate right now.

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>>172328773
>urd is win more bullshit
I use her regularly to remove alberts and still have a 5/2

I use her regulary to remove an ancient soccer mom and still have a 5/3 left over

>>172328828
Storm memes

>>172328975
What would you use Laura with?

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how much of a joyless fag do you have to be to concede before someone summons Flame and Glass?

>>172328790

Unless you've pull home coming with wolf forest only have 1 mana to work with. You don't need to worry about such a small roach. And with wolf, homecoming is the least you can worry about. Bolt is more scary.

>play shadow aggro
>constantly lose because shit draws
>switch to nep
>instantly matched against Dshift/Haven
>Never draw a single Nep in 5 games
>lose to sword face damage

I'm so fucking pissed. I can't even climb 100 points anymore with this absolute shit class.

>>172328962
>Olivia
Seems like a cool swordcraft player

>>172329051
Had it in there to combo with a tutored Mastema. Forgot to take her out when I wanted a guaranteed search for serpent.

>>172328849
>Haven, a class full of hard removal and I win cards
And is that supposed to mean something?
Standard: lowest playrate and winrate in the game
DE: highest playrate third best winrate
RoB: lowest playrate (before gobu nerf) second lowest after, lowest winrate

If the best a class can manage is to be third best in an expansion focused solely on buffing it, the class is shit. Daria, and Albertcraft is how real classes function when they get overpowered shit. Haven is a joke.

>>172328690

Forest is the class that requires higher skill to play it correctly because the order is important. They should always has a tier 0 deck. Said tier 0 deck will have less than 50% winrate if you just netdeck like an idiot and didn't learn to play it before hand.

>>172329029
that's why nobody cares of winrates on shadowlog seriously

>>172328724
>"Dragon"craft
>Just ramp and shit out OP neural leggos
>have fun dealing with t7 satan lol

At least things like Storm Dragon use their own cards.

>>172327857
Sword and Blood are the best of those. You're fucked if you ever get to low health because of all of the storm and burn. Shadow is hoping you get enough damage early on for your wombo combo to finish them, I don't know anything about Face Dragon.

>>172329229
>highest playrate third best winrate

That must be a pretty mindless deck, possibly more brain dead than unga bunga sword.

>>172329074
>swordshitter complains about "no joy"

>>172329273
But that deck bricked harder than Daria half of the time.

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Elana is not that bad right now.

>>172329229
One day we'll get there, too. Maybe.

t. Haven main at masters

>>172329265
Saha luci is broken a fuck, dude. You should ladder some ranks up to Master to witness yourself.

>>172327983
You curve Cerb into Phantom Howl, my dude. Prior to that it's just vomiting whatever you have onto the board, making sure to drop Shadow Reaper on the turn before evos start flying around.

Most games are decided one way or the other by turn 7. If you queue into a bad matchup, whatever, just move on.

Elf specifically only proves problematic if they get the first turn and draw their Mays leading into a turn 5 Will of the Forest. The average Ancient Elf dies to a Pact, Lyrial, or Rabbit Necromancer.

>>172329013
Good against aggro or tempo decks, bad in the next expansion.

>>172329424
Post dick. I don't have the Elanas but I could craft them.

>>172329404
I said it was BS, not that it was consistent.

>>172329459
>face dragon
>saha luci

face dragon it's lyrial, eyfa, forte, seabrand and the carrot man of infinite value

>>172329424
Any stall game is a good deck right now. And forever. Elana, Sun Satan, Dire Bond, Sahaluci, Shadow, Dshift

>>172329449

Pretty sure if you play correctly, seraph will have high winrate.

>>172329016
before might be a bit tough, but i can try midnight (yuro). i'll see what i can do.

>>172329620
>Coinflipshift
>good
Oops!

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>>172329559

>>172329395

do you see me playing albert?

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>>172329505
It doesn't fucking work because I keep fucking running into shit like this every single fucking match.
Oh and btw, he had another Daria+Iceform next turn too. I can go 10 matches without seeing a Daria, let alone Daria with iceform, but the moment I switch to something shadow related I start get countermatched so much it's fucking unreal.
Of course if I happen to run into aggro shadow they have a perfect curve into a turn 6 howl.

Every time I try playing shadow aggro I swear to myself that I'm never going to fall for this shit meme deck again and I've been playing it since forever. This class should just fucking die already.

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I hope so

>>172329956

>Aggro shadow

Pretty happy that every time I see you lost a game.

Is there an actual release time for ToG yet, or are people just guessing?

>>172329567
Oh ok. You forgot the 2pp storm, he's such a big deal.

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>>172329956

It's not Luna's fault that Daria is bullshit incarnate.

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Who's your God now?

>>172330167
the maintenance time is literally on the fucking official fucking site

>>172326608
>Actually bought the new game having never played one before
>It's somehow even worse than Dynasty Warriors 2, with every stage being 'walk down a single corridor, fight 1 or 2 mook waves, and then spam supers on the boss until you win'
Jews got me, I admit. At least modders got a working full nude mode within a couple days of release.

>>172329567
Eyfa is 2slow for that deck

>>172330187

Luna needs to join her parents asap.

>>172329675
Seraph's life gets harder every passing day because people run more Odins.

It's playable but nowhere near Tier 1.

>sun satan nerd draws the game out to turn 17 only to lose
how to you """"control""""freaks have fun with this shit?

>>172330117
You mean """aggro""" shadow. Because of the shitty shadow mechanic you're being forced to work twice as hard for something other classes get for free.

>>172330187
It's her fault for being so shit against pretty much everything in the meta right now.

>>172330175
>2pp storm
nani?

>>172329459
>broken as fuck
Maybe if you're sword
Any other craft barely gives a fuck

>>172330305
For cake, right?

>>172330187
The only reason Daria wins against phantom howl is if they happen to run iceform, a single tech card that they may not even draw and only counters you because you do all your damage in one turn. Any deck with a good ward will fuck you. Otherwise Daria doesn't do particularly well against phantom howl.

>>172330317
>harder
>1 one legendary is the only thing that counters it for 6, 5 in tog, out of 7 decks

>>172330175
No one plays that shit.

>>172330117
>being this mad about the most inconsistent aggro deck in the game
huh? what decks are you even playing my man?

>>172329074
When rob released and we were doing 20 room matches quests, people always killed my flame and glass even when they would end the game faster.

>>172330369
The 2/1 little dragon, it's like the ultimate card for face dragon.

>>172330321
Did he actually draw Santa?

>>172330340
But shadowlogs says it has a high win ratio so you must just be shit :^)

The limit of cards on board should be raised from 5 to 6

Discuss

>>172330454

>The only reason Daria wins against howl is iceform

Daria could just also have lethal on board and be out of howl range which is a situation that happens often enough.

>>172330503

I have decent winrate against it, but shadowcraft players seems to be the most annoying of the bunch here.

>>172330520
He only has storm turn 7 onwards
He's garbage

>>172329459
t. Daria

When is maintenance?

>>172330039
I hope not, I want more free packs

>>172330454
Thank god earth rite and spellboost don't mix well.

I remember back in DE, dshift would sometimes run that 1pp dirt rune that summoned a scrap golem. I wonder if there are people that still do that.

>>172329459
The deck's big tempo play is removal, a 4 heal and leaving behind a 4/4 body. If it ramps up to do this early, it's behind on card advantage. If it doesn't ramp up, it's not even a big deal to handle.

>>172330686
I hope they fuck up another card and we get packs for that too.
Aegis seems like a prime candidate seeing how many effects he has to interact with.

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Nice try Rowen

>>172330503
>>being this mad about the most inconsistent aggro deck in the game

That explains why they have 53.3% winrate.

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rate my deck faggots

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Need a concede please.

20964

>>172330768
>top decking a storm card
outfucking skilled

Fighting sword makes me want to kill myself

>>172330392
3 straight turns of removal+Luci, plus 1 additional with Luci himself? The question here is which deck doesn't give a fuck.

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is it a boy or a girl?

i mean i need to know who wants to hide me from the mean word in a piece of mist

>>172330890

>Complaining about the only honest craft in the game

Kill yourself then.

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>>172330864
Thank you Urias.

>>172330813
so I guess shadowlog stats matter now

I better jump on that face dragon train before maintenance starts

>>172330923
>is it a boy or a girl?
Yes

>>172330591
If that happened, you bricked or your deck is too inconsistent. Even without phantom howl, a turn 4 reaper with his full board of 1 drops means at least 5 damage, because I'm not clearing that stuff just to buff your reaper. Basically my winrate with Daria against aggro shadow improved dramatically when I realized you should often just deny them shadows or reaper buffs and go face. And if an aggro deck's best counter is to go face and ignore their followers, I don't think you can call it good.

>>172328418
Forest needed Roach to be gutted to unplayable status, and then rebuilt with new cards in expansions to give them other options. ToG is a step in the right direction, but Roach still needs to fuck off so they can start giving Forest some decent 2-for-1 evos and rush followers that aren't shit so they aren't so evo dependent.

>>172329827
Thanks, fampai.

>>172330856
brick/10

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For once I found myself WANTING the dyke to evolve Albert into my face.

(Yes, she did it.)

>>172330605
Only because all the cblood players mysteriously disappeared

>>172330923

Boy or girl

Xe is genderqueer demimale demifemale dragon-rabbit-hybrid-kin and a wormself by heart.

>>172330856
>israfil
>satan
>3 bahamuts
10/10 tourney deck

>>172328495
>skeleton knight

Swap those with Angel of the Word. Knight is too frail in this ping infested meta.

>>172330610
You can't run a deck with only high cost bodies.

>>172330856
>78,950

WHALECRAFT.

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Reminder to finish up your dailies before the 10 hour maintenance.

>>172330856
Might as well just throw in 3 Odins too.

>>172331145
>Sword stealing Rowen's whales.

>>172331042

You need to be gutted irl.

Roach is not even the biggest threat forest have right now. It is overshadowed by the increase quality of cards of other classes got. In fact, on the contrary, they need to release more support for roach to make it stay relevant.

need concede, 19791
Will concede back if you need it