/rlg/ - Roguelike General

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First for Chei.

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>that filename
Wait, living is a sacrifice?

Isn't it only a sacrifice when thanks to you being alive, someone else doesn't need to be?

ah the classic cat shitposter
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>>172240647
>Wait, living is a sacrifice?

The ultimate sacrifice.

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I'm at Zig 25 and it's a mummy floor.
Only have rN+ but loads of scrolls of holy word and immolation and disc of storms with 27 Evo
Help

>>172240520
Thats not how it works, anon..

>>172241142
quaff haste, invis and then blink to the downstair or portal outside

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>>172240823
Since when is blini kot classic?

>>172241142
If you have rF++ or rF+++, go deep, immolation, disc or holy word or any other aoe shit, EXPLODING KNEES

>>172241260
*FeBe

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>>172241351
Felids are cute, cute, CUTE!

Does DCSS still have steel dragons breathing shards of shrapnel?

That was some badass, metal shit.

>>172241478
you don't have to yell anon, we're right here

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>>172241725
Are you really?
What's to say you aren't just some AI pretending to be human? I mean, who else would be able to stand roguelikes

>>172242102
We're just felids IRL.
We don't play roguelikes because we have no lives, but because we have 8 lives each, waiting for splatting.

>>172242102
all of us are artificial entities crafted by a malevolent god to keep you trapped in a nightmare reality

>>172241603
but does it have dragons that breathe subjugation or reanimation or inertia

>>172242102
What Felid do you like playing as? I was trying FeBe just now.

>using my early game reading strategy
>found a truck with 20% fuel and battery
>start reading by control light with engine on
>battery is empty an hour later
Apparently one of the faulty engine things stops the alternator from working, who knew.

any roguelikes where i can play as a black person?

>>172243831
That *hack convict challenge and CDDA

>>172243831
pretty sure in steamband the "race selection" is actually race
i remember that asians get a racial bonus to martial arts

>>172243831
Steamband, probably.

>>172243831
Well, orcs are a playable race in several roguelikes...

>>172218831

yes

>>172245285
>big lips
>dark skin
>steal and kill everything if not facing someone who can control them
>Slavers, but become slaves too if someone is powerful enough
>fight like gorillas between themselves to establish a social structure
>More muscular then white humans

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I guess hellband is a Zang variant? I've seen every single one of these classes except druid/warlock in PCB

it even has the whole "realm choice" thing with normal mages getting 2 and high-mages getting 1 etc

Hi, does anyone here knows a bit about damage calculations in DCSS?

I am playing MiBe and have the choice between 2 weapons:
1. Broad Axe +8 of Speed (Mithril) and Magic Resist. It's base dmg is 13, but minimum cooldown is 0.4.
2. Executioners axe +5 of Antimagic. Base dmg is 18 and minimum cooldown is 0.6.

My question is, are the 0.2 seconds worth it? I could even level up shields and use it with the Broad Axe too? I don't know if I got super lucky with this weapon or if it is meh.

>>172246281
Arga is pretty good but that Exec axe is great

>>172246281
hand axe bec. it attacks faster

>>172246281
speed is one of the best brands in the game. Arga is always a good choice and it allows you to use a shield for increased defenses

The exe axe is also a great option though, and antimagic brand will make it much safer to fight dangerous magic-users like archliches and oofs

>>172245852
PCB has warlocks, but no druids. I guess they're just nature mages?

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>>172245852
>I guess hellband is a Zang variant?

It certainly looks like it.

My only beef right now is that the fonts are sort of fucked up if you want to use something special.

>>172247105
and the subwindows are really fucked up
they seem impossible to resize, the "monster recall" window doesn't seem to work at all, but the "monster list" window chances to "monster recall" whenever you attack something. which is annoying

What roguelike has the most involved character creation?

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>>172247105
There sure are a lot of popes in hell.

>>172250515
that'd be Incursion for sure

Is there another roguelike with tiles and a mechanic similar to otab from DCSS?

>>172250628
Demon has o and while it doesn't have the tab, your mons can make easy decisions on their own.

>>172246748
>>172246650
>>172246367

Ok I think I will leave my Axe skill on 20 and take the Speed axe ("arga"), but keep the exec axe in inventory if I fight magic users, like when I go into Elven Halls.
Thanks for advise

>>172250730
Thanks, that seems nice as I love monster catching
Is there a guide or something so I don't get squashed to death a million times before getting good?

>>172250628
demon veil tank
instead of tab you press wait command while everything kills itself on you

>>172251071
the big axe is better than Arga
enchant that fucker to +9 because it's not an artifact
You'll thank me later.

>>172251071
That doesn't work too well since you'll also need to remove your shield to use the exe axe.
Shields count as armor and take ~5 turns to put on or take off.

It's probably best to choose one of them and EITHER get 26 axe skill for exe axe or 15+ shield skill for 1h axe + shield.

the 2h axe is still going to be better damage. speedbrand is amazing but it just means that Arga is nearly as good damage while only using one hand, not that it's better damage
the advantage of Arga is the extra defense from a shield

>>172251076
There should be a pasta in one of the OP links.
Other than that, be a hypergamous slut and discard your friends as soon as you see something better. Make sure to keep a lot of weak elemental attacks on your stuff to exploit weaknesses.

You need to get a feel of the game, though. Memorize the levels at which mons spawn and their stats. You will need to die a few times for that.

>>172251401
>discard your friends as soon as you see something better.
The existence of recycle makes keeping them longer actually viable now.

As a general rule, support > fighter for your summoner. But going full nodamage makes some demons hard to capture because a damage-focused summoner will always deal more damage than any demon of the same level. A summoner will never deal as much damage as Bigfoot though.

>>172251360
Can't discount the MR bonus, although he is a MiBe so it isn't nearly as good.

>>172252096
Did recycle stop being utter shit now?

>>172252618
If you get lucky with relic wraiths, you can make a shitload of credits.

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mindcrafter in hellband seems to have a sliiiight problem
they keep the ADOM thing where they suffer negative effects from using psionic spells on undead/demons
but the game is named HELLband
there's shitloads of demons everywhere

>>172253963
Big surprise that a band has really dumb balance issues.

>>172240293
>>172211786
>>172211981
https://pastebin.com/RfrrQiJ0
>Elona pastas: http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD (main), http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn (mods)
Seems the pastakeeper didn't actually bother checking the contents. They have been just updated and have a lot more stuff and specially download links. The one in the old list is very outdated.

>>172252618
Recycle is an upgrade that, if you're a bad enough dude to sacrifice 1-2 of your slots for a rotating buffet of low-level demons and are gud enough to reliably get multiple recruits from corpse encounters, will give you more money than you'll ever spend

But if you're at the gud level where you're struggling to not die, Recycle doesn't help much and you should just get SEPI

Are golem ego boots new in PCB? Don't remember seeing them before.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Tomb should be pretty easy with Necromutation, right?

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>>172256050
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>172230629
>>172236859
>>172236942
>sludge elves
basically merfolk but objectively worse
>>172238685
Unreal World is strikingly similar to DF Adventurer mode.

>>172257016
>but objectively worse
muh earth aptitude

>>172245668
You're forgetting
>+3 Wis
>Toughness feat
>Spellfury ability
>Devouring

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>kobold with a wand of death on level 1
This shit should be fucking illegal.

>>172256050
>In this day and age, people still barge into Yiuf's house without the orb
You do know that this was a search and rescue right?

>>172256059
Be very careful of those living dudes. They'll dispel you.

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>>172256050
>>172256272
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>172257460
>This shit should be fucking illegal.

dpeg pls

pls

>>172251076
Orb is pretty fun to play imo, but it's not really otabby. In Demon even though there is auto explore, you should still manually fight all your encounters either to clear them quickly for a link or because the encounter is roughly about as powerful as your own (summoner +3 demons vs anywhere from 4-6 demons + uniques)

>>172257460
Wands of death in general can fuck off, i've had many a good run ended by some humanoid with a wand of death

The fact that there is no saving throw and it's just boom your dead is what really irks me.

>>172257460
>not dying on turn 1
Look at this fag

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TEST YOUR MIGHT

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wut

>>172262321
I hope you like aggravated cyberdemons.

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>>172262321
heyyy

>>172263794
Can you recall to a town and sell stuff?

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well fuck

there are coffins in the 6th circle that summon super-powerful OOD skulls of vengeance to kill you dead if you damage them
but apparently they also summon skulls if they are damaged by monster infighting
a pack of bickering demons got to one of them and started poking at it and I was just getting deathskulls appearing on my ass anywhere on the level, even after teleporting away

>>172264021
What the fuck

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>that comfy feeling when abusing bloatnado to destroy everything

When should I teach a demon tireless?

>>172265081
wen hes tiyerd

>>172265081
It's usually the best for healers early on. It is also good for certain things like the electricity passive overload, which is based upon having 100 or more SP.

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>click on Death's Door by mistake
It wasn't supposed to be like this

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>>172268108
>Clicking

>>172268108
>and then I saw her face
Every time

>>172268108
Spam disto unwields and borg in the Abyss.

>>172268823
Oh I was in a zigg and just exit it
It just annoyed me because I had to go into tomb to get the figgurine I was saving

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>>172264021
You aren't kidding about those skulls.

Damn.

>>172268108
>click
What did he mean by this?

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Apparently if your race is 'Vampire', Hellband's Phial will kill you dead
no problems with normal lanterns though

In DCSS, can you re-enter the abyss if I flee from it for now? (fuckin trog gifting me axes of corruption)

>>172274383
Yes, there is always a portal on Depths and sometimes labyrinths
Monsters can also banish you there with low MR

>>172274383
No anon you have to go all the way down to abyss 5 and retrieve the rune.

>>172274521
i'm a retard, I can just use the shitty axe trog gifted me again, right?

>>172274639
Well, that too.
But it's best to wait until Depths anyways

>>172274383
>>172274639
Yes. You can even try to banish yourself if things go really badly.

>>172274639
The distortion axe won't always send you to the abyss. Sometimes it just hurts you, other times it teleports you and confuses you, there are a couple of things that it can do.

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>27 Axes
>20 Fighting
>+8 Exec Axe of Freezing
>+5 Slaying
>you closely miss the short sword of flaming
>you closely miss the short sword of flaming
>you miss the short sword of flaming
>you hit the short sword of flaming but do no damage
What

>>172277884
crawl damage calculations, everybody
You're rolling 1dX+1d5-1d17
I think it's 17 AC
X is some function of your base damage, your weapon skill, and your fighting skill.

>>172275059
>You can even try to banish yourself if things go really badly.
does this ever actually work for anyone?
you might get a lucky tele or blink as well, but if you're that much trouble you'll probably just die from taking warp damage

>>172278401
I used to watch live Zigraiding pretty frequently, it worked a surprisingly large amount of the time.

>>172278401
25% of unwields banish you. If you recognize that a situation is fucked well before you're in true danger of dying, you can probably get out of it pretty easily with hasted wields/unwields.

Oh god I just saw what a Felid on the Tileset looks like.

This is exactly why I play ASCII. Felids are humanoid cats (like skyrim), not regular cats. No way regular cats have 15 strength.
ASCII graphics are awesome

Is anomaly shog enough to defeat madevra?

>>172279589
>can't wield weapons
>can't use wands
>no armor
they're literal regular cats

>>172279589
Felids are cats which magically human-level intelligence anon
they walk on 4 paws
they even get a stealth penalty for casting bladehands because they're suddenly using giant swords for two of their feet

>>172279589
>humanoid cats
Did you even read the description for felids?

>>172279845
>can wear rings
maybe they are just retarded?

>>172281441
rings are magic and go on legs

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Waifu status: Online

Nothing can stop me now. Except Madevra, but I already skipped past her.

>>172281028
reading is gay they should make a (ascii) video

>>172279845
They can zap wands in 19.5

>>172281692
>felids can zap wands
FUCKING DEVILS TEAM

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literally thranduil with a new name

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>>172281692
>Brags about playing only @ (ascii)
>But can't read ON THE MODE WHERE YOU HAVE TO READ TO SEE WHAT ENEMIES ARE WEARING/WIELDING
No one knows you're an orange crystal statue when you post online.

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this is only like DL30
where am i going to go in hellband after i get past the 9th circle of hell?

What does Trunk mean in DCSS? What's the difference to the newest version?

>>172283206
So, where the Hell is he ?

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_probing said he has 30,000 hit points
meanwhile the tankiest unique I've fought so far had like 1000

luckily there was nothing stopping me from LITERALLYWALKAWAY(tm) and I just took a down stair and left him behind

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And after this I get out of the 9th circle and just end up on "Hell (level 27)"
I guess they ran out of level names.

>>172283881
you just cucked satan

>>172283527
"Trunk" means the most bleeding-edge version of Crawl:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunk_(software)

Crawl's trunk is available on Github at https://github.com/crawl/crawl. If you've played online, then servers will have this listed as the "git" option: they compile the most recent commits after each day.

Since 0.19 has been officially released, the current trunk is intended for 0.20, so (right now) "trunk" refers to all alpha versions of 0.20. When 0.20 gets released, "trunk" will refer to versions intended for 0.21, and so on.

To reiterate and add on to things, trunk has the most bleeding-edge changes to the code BUT anything committed can be reverted or tweaked, too. For instance, a new race called Barachi (who initially were named Barachians) were pretty weak, but after a few months of being in trunk, the devs changed them to be quite a bit stronger overall.

I predict that the next build of Demon will have never ending fights, what with supports having access to Lucky Aid and Meditate.

>>172281681
>No SP abilities
You better have some Refresh spammers online or your waifu will be a two-pump chump


>>172285005
Nah, shit still dies, though lucky charm+lucky aid will probably be borderline OP in early levels.

The main change will be that Its just harder to instagib enemies with a party of AoE nukers.

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>>172285005
>>172286540
Maybe he's referring to relic wraiths.

>>172281681
You need to dump Freezing Touch and Arctic Veil for Tireless and Tormenter.

Is Madevra bad game design, or deepest lore?

>>172287861
She's probably the hardest hero to kill (you either have to drain her max HP extensively or have tons of electricity damage), but you can still walk away from her (slowly).

>>172287861
She's good game design. I wish there were more things like her that aren't pretty much auto-defeated just by swapping out demons.

Figuring out the 'one weird trick' of positioning to defeat her was pretty satisfying.

>>172281818

Wands are noob traps anyway so it doesn't matter

>>172283881
>Satan
>angel
>symbol is a 'U'

>>172284029
Hell goes all the way to floor 100 where you fight Lucifer.

>>172288256
She's literally "spam max HP drains on her until 1 HP", "slam on her forever until she maybe dies if she doesn't multiguilt heal all her shit up", or "leave a decoy and walk away from her forever", the unique

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didn't know Hell was inside Zot

How could a take on Demon where you play as a Hero-type character instead work?

>Your character is much more powerful and your goal is to defeat as many summoners as possible.

>>172288202
>but you can still walk away from her (slowly).
Except she can leap at you every three turns(heroism reduces cooldowns by a lot).

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ah fuck
apparently EVERY SINGLE 'A' ENEMY can bloodcurse you in hellband, instead of in zangband where it's just a small list of uniques

and i just killed like 5 of them at once with a beam spell

>>172290125
Bull rush's range makes her unable to attack you as long as she remains adjacent to your character, which she will be if you have no demons out.

>>172288829
If Zaji is supposed to teach you 'swap out your demons to win fights you scrub,' Madevra is supposed to teach you more advanced stuff about summoning positioning and unsummoning for more reasons than 'oh no 1HP left'

The right positioning lets you kill her with a Faerie, an Ukobach or any other elemental/dark ranged attacker, and pretty much any Light-resistant demon.

If you think she's 2stronk because dogpiling doesn't work, you're playing demon like a MiBe

>>172289789
Isn't that basically every other roguelike

The only non-fetch way of reliably getting through Madevra's defenses is using high shock chance, cannot miss spells. Cannot miss also means something can't be blocked.

>>172290490
Zaji doesn't teach you shit. You can literally "dogpile" him without even thinking and kill him dead.

Madevra on the other hand is tedious as shit to kill without max HP drains or "MiBe" builds. If you have two ranged magic demons and a tanky light resistant early game demon (?) all with low profile good for you my man. What Madevra teaches you is that you can kill everything in demon with any setup if you like watching paint dry or just walk away if you don't.

>>172292213
I find that simply blasting her with strong electricity attacks to be the fastest way to defeat her, even much more so than max HP draining. Even then, you would have to have your PC up to it or an early nabbed kitsune or raiju.

>>172292213
Don't need low profile, you need to pay attention to the range of bullrush and position accordingly.

How do you feel about the Artemis/Actaeon link? Do you hate that too because it's hard to do without Flesh/Souleaters or AoE?

Whatabout Archangel links, since they're similar to Madevra? Do you think they're too hard?

I dunno dude. I just think Madevra is a good change of pace and she made me better at demon by trying to figure out how to kill her without maxHP cheese or electricity.

>>172292803
Actaeon/Artemis link is super easy if you're in hallway. No soul/flesh eater needed.
Archangel links are easy too because by that time you have access to a wide variety of powerful demons and consumables/buffers to prebuff your dudes. Not to mention they don't have bullrush or leap attack or whatever.
Madevra on the other hand, as I said before, is not hard, just tedious if you don't have max HP drains or electricity.

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oh look

Is there any way to enhance those +0 stat items in Sil?

Why do rings, amulets, lites and belts never fucking spawn in ToME? 80% of everything is weapons and charms. And shops aren't of much help either.

>>172296046
no
that would be scummy and nethacky

>only know how to play demon like a mibe
The only thing I can get anywhere is the tankiest melee summoner whose only contribution to the fight is having more defenses than the other guy.

Not sure I've ever completed any of the "kill me in x turns links" past like python.

>>172296046
No, but note that +0 stat rings still protect you against stat draining, so they're not completely useless.

>>172297276
>Not sure I've ever completed any of the "kill me in x turns links" past like python.

buffs and items are your friends for those things

If you have never known the joy of a Whirling Turdak you have not lived

>>172296237
You need to go into options and deactivate confirmation bias.

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>can't amputate head
oh well

>>172297276
Orb isn't braindead easy, but it can be fun with minimal effort put into your build since copying abilities is extremely cheap allowing you to copy/delete abilities as you want. Ice Ring is a god-tier ability and makes the Actaeon link near trivial due to it's large AoE. What I like about Orb is the variety of magic damage options, allowing you to deal a combination of fire/ice/electric/light/dark damage by tower 5 meaning that all your demons have to do is not die while you blast away at enemy weaknesses with your 125 sp.

>>172257460
>Not playing a wizard, getting free magic resistance at the start of the game, killing him and getting a wand of death
FAULT

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hellband Sorcery realm seems really good
ID spell at level 10, and *ID* at 33 in a game where *ID* matters
(actually it matters even more than PCB because you can also *ID* every potion to find out its alchemy recipe. in my game !boldness+!restorestrength = !strength, woo!)
and book 3 has a level 12, 12sp cost dimension door which is just amazing
Especially in hellband which seems to be chock full of melee-only shit just begging to get kited to death. I'm at dlvl 45 and most monsters and uniques I see are still melee-only.
ethereal dragons seem to only cast blind and not have any of the terrifying 350light/dark/confusion breath attacks they have in Zang/PCB
death knights have lost their nether bolt and cause mortal wounds and now only cast summon monster

like 99% of the enemies you can kill just by spamming magic missile (which is still my most sp-efficient damage spell) with the occasional blink/ddoor thrown in
and actually on top of that the game seems to have some kind of PCB yellow-mage system where low-level spells take less than a full turn to cast which just makes magic missile spam even more effective

>!boldness+!restorestrength = !strength
you can't make this stuff up
>book 3 has a level 12, 12sp cost dimension door
someone at some point thought this was a good idea; I think it's disgusting

>>172305135
also there's a pair of artifact boots with +10strconspeed
i guess the aggravate is supposed to balance that out?

>>172303468
Neat. I'd forgotten how much I miss alchemy systems.

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unfortunately it looks like !boldness isn't sold by town shops
!con recipe is just !csw + !restorecon though, so i'm gonna abuse the shit outta that

funniest recipe so far:
I can combine a !sickness and a !*healing* to make !healing

>>172305135
If you think it's too strong just dont use it

>>172308691
if only crawl devs had that mentality

>>172309765

I'm pretty sure they have that tolerance. After all, gods and spells still exist

>>172310105
hmmm true
but those are all nobrainers so I'd imagine all of that will be phased out sooner or later

>>172310406

Nah. These are no-brainers that they will tolerate forever, like armor.

>what I don't like is a no-brainer
>what I like is meaningful choices
Pots, kettles etc.

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>page 10

>>172313615
>tfw you can no longer destroy beogh altars

>>172313874
Why could you destroy Beogh's altars but no one else's?

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>>172314103
Filthy orcs and their """""gods""""" should be purged from the dungeon.

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>page 9

>>172315790
>zap:1
>playing easy versions

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>>172316376
>wands ID themselves

>>172316376
Did the zap id not give it away?

>>172316434
Ah, I should have known
The blighted animeposter

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>>172316482
Nice meme, but there are more than just one man who has cute 2D reaction images on /rlg/.

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>>172316482
>labelposter shitting on anyone

>>172316778
dumb catposter
>>172316558
dumb animeposter

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THE ONE TIME I DONT WORSHIP BEOGH

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>>172316482
>>172316819
>hating weebshit on a weebsite made by a weeblord and run by a nip

Do spells have viewable descriptions in PCB, or do I have to use them and use context to figure out what they do?

>>172318581
dumb tumposter

use b to browse your spells

>>172318708
More like
dumposter

>>172318708
Thanks, senpai.

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>>172316482
>>172316819
Donit bully!

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Any political roguelikes?

>>172321258
(Trump) branded weapons

Trump spells.

>>172318708
not that guy but can i do that with items too?

>>172321986
"I" for inspect for items in your inventory,
x in shops.

Not all spells/abilities have proper descriptions

>>172321258
ToME

>Demon runs on Unity
>Unity has spyware that transmits all data of your computer to the jews in Unity HQ and can't be opted out of
Yeah fuck that shit

>>172322682
Source? Aren't some of the big games, like hearthstone, running from unity?

>download PCB 6.0.0
>game crashes during load

this is what i get for playing vanilla

>>172323528
>http://demon.ferretdev.org/license.html
>Unity3D games, such as this software, collect information when run that is transmitted to Unity. If you run this software, you are consenting to the collection and transmission of this data. You can read more about what information Unity collects, and how it is used, at: https://unity3d.com/legal/privacy-policy
>https://unity3d.com/legal/privacy-policy
Hope you like advertisers,three letter organizations and anyone who might acquire Unity in a trade or a merger knowing literally everything about your computer.

>>172324279
It looks like basic analytics and ad-shit intended for mobiles. Besides, you can just play it offline.

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>>172321258
Liberal Crime Squad

>>172321258
Liberal Crime Squad sort of

>>172326634
>It looks like basic analytics
Constantly collecting information like your unique device ID, all your hardware configuration, your IP and geolocation and your OS language is nowhere close to basic analytics. Especially when the monitoring happens always without a need for a crash report or anything.

>for mobiles
For all devices.

>Besides, you can just play it offline.
You can't play it offline unless you mean cutting your internet connection entirely, and who knows if it queues up reports for when you go back online or some shit. The "analytics" is coded into the Unity engine and can't be disabled even by the DEVELOPER. It's not even opt-out, it's automatically forced opt-in forever.

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>Zigg
>it's a pan lord floor

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>>172330883

Hey, I just started playing MiBe and got gifted an Executioners Axe. Is it worth to use it at my low level or should I wait until my axes skill is a bit higher?

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NOT A DRILL
https://sites.google.com/site/poschengband/
PCB 6.0 is out
Archery for the masses

>>172332940
Depends on how good that Exec axe is, anon.
How's the enchantment compared to whatever weapon you are using now?
Do you have good AC/EV to make up for the loss of SH?
Where are you in the game?

>>172332940
I'd use it, an Executioner's axe is a great weapon that will carry you through the entire game

But train your axes skills until 26

>>172333106
>>172333464
currently at lair
Just found a scroll of identify. I didn't want to try the axe cause I am a bit scared of the abyss.
a +7 antimagic exec axe vs a +3 battleaxe

>>172330883

>not a mummy floor

>>172333625
Yeah, use it, that's a pretty good weapon

>>172332982
Good job slowpoke
It's been out for days and the update completely breaks loading games.
Wait for 6.0.1

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>>172333676
Mummies are piss easy with Necromut
Pan lords can be a pain due to chaos brands, chaos clouds, silence, dispel undead, torment
Mummies basically can't do shit if you are immune to torment and just explode in nuclear fire after a scroll of immolation

>>172333106
>loss of SH
>implying a MiBe will use shields

>>172333625
Exec axe is better, but you'll want to be sure you can get your delay to 1 turn or lower (thus, Axe skill level 20 or higher) as soon as possible.

>>172328294
>You can't play it offline unless you mean cutting your internet connection entirely
Do you mean it won't run unless you give it an internet connection? Because blocking individual programs from accessing the internet is entirely possible, especially if the attacker is expecting a certain degree of cooperation from the target machine.
If you suspect that the program is masking its outbound traffic (for instance, by hijacking some other program to send its data), you can catch them at it by just monitoring your outbound traffic.

why cant i craft a flamebrand sword in cdda? i have all the materials and 2 broadswords even, but even the one that isnt damaged at all isn't highlighted for use

>>172337410
Keep in mind there are three quality levels of a lot of the medieval weapons: cheap replica, budget steel (worth as much as the real deal, but the stats and description is different) and steel.
The budget steel and steel versions can easily be mixed. Maybe the recipe calls for the high quality one?

>>172337410
Some genius thought having replicas named the same as proper weapons is a good idea - even though you can trivially check the description to tell them apart.

As it often happens in DDA development, voices of reason got overruled by "but muh realism, you don't SEE it from afar" (you do, with V keybind), so now there are multiple items sharing names, but not stats or recipes.

I HATE SIGMUND fddkslfjsdkf

also, page 10

>>172338751
Grinder is worse

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>>172339027
>>172338751
just quaff a pot of might, bro
You ARE starting as best class fighter, right?

>>172337940
>>172338554

yeah its budget steel, i didn't realize that. i guess the recipe needs a regular quality sword. that's annoying

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>>172339508
Also, it looks like the diamond katana is removed? Can't really use the CVD for anything, it seems.

Also, despite trying on both the old stable build, and several experimentals now and then, I have yet to meet a single NPC.

>>172339985
>Also, it looks like the diamond katana is removed?
You examine it now, because diamondness is a flag now.

>Also, despite trying on both the old stable build, and several experimentals now and then, I have yet to meet a single NPC.
Could be that you have low rate or NPCs disabled.
Also, there was a bug with options being rounded down, so if you had 0.05 NPC rate, it would round down to 0. It's fixed now.

>>172340339
A-ha. That might explain it, yeah..
How rare would you say NPCs are, though? Are they only supposed to be in FEMA camps?

>>172340517
>How rare would you say NPCs are, though?
Static NPCs only spawn in refugee center (3x3 building surrounded by roads).
Random NPCs depend on rate. Bump the rate until you start seeing them. 0.2 is fine.

>>172339496
Who is this mysterious Daniel and why is he larping as solid snake

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>>172340869
It's me
I just don't see the need to create a meme worthy name or hide it.
I mean, only autismo overlords play roguelikes anyways

about to return to CDDA, any major changes in past 3 months? I've been playing when they were messing around with vehicle fuel rates, so you couldnt drive anywhere really.

Also any tips for surviving with roaming zombies? I want to make a actual fortress that i will have to defend, buts its hard if i trigger a horde early on and it will just fuck me hard in the ass

>>172344524
>Also any tips for surviving with roaming zombies?
Basements
Cities attract hordes, so if you actually want to defend things, you need to build it around a house.

>any major changes in past 3 months?
Mostly just fixes because stable version """soon"""

>tfw when +7 cursed battle axe on D:8

>tfw cursed club on d:1 and can't butcher anymore

>tfw dead on D:9

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>start up Crawl
>wonder where my save file's gone
>remember how horribly I splatted my character last night
>don't feel like playing anymore

>>172346394
>tfw he didn't go axe fighter of Gozag
>tfw he didn't abuse retarded gear shops and retarded jew daze + cleave
>tfw he didn't switch to Mak during late/extended

>>172346397
Did the exact same thing in nethack

Really unlucky roll on attacking a floating eye and a zombie nibbled me to death. I'm way too impatient for this shit.

>>172346126
Rip that feel

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>>172346686
>retarded jew daze
removed I thought because of le zigscummer

>>172338554
You can't even use martial arts styles with the fake versions.
I actually tried adding that once, but KevinGranade didn't want it.
I'm still salty.

>>172339496

>/tele
>/haste
>!cmut

yuck

>tfw no rescued naga waifu to guide me through the dungeon that is life

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>>172347279
Hmm, well that's kind of stupid. If the weight (and supposedly, balance) is identical, then they should naturally be similarly useable.
Oh well.
I can't get myself to dislike Grade the 'nade, though.
From all I've seen he's so gloriously rational and open to feedback and suggestions.
>Long and detailed description of a feature he's making, laden with arguments
>Someone suggests a better alternative
>He doesn't cling to his pride and get defensive
>actually recognizes and accepts good suggestions, even if it invalidates his own hard work
I have a really good feeling about him, actually, and I tend to be right about indie devs.
Oof.. Though there's shit on everyone of course. We're only human, after all. ..and most likely someone in here have some saltstory or other that might colour my sentiment

>>172347586
B-be still my heart

>>172347586
>tfw no rescued salamander waifu to set my house on fire without being convicted of arson just so we can escape this horrible life together

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>>172347279
>tfw no Cataclysm 2

>>172349125
>FT 1024+3dogs+12 cock
What does this mean

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>negative adamantite
im gettin flashbacks to 555

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>>172349125
Hmm. I wonder if it ultimately would be for the best or not; making an improved Cataclysm 2, or building on and changing the old one.

(Also, what tileset in this gif?)

>>172348291
>From all I've seen he's so gloriously rational and open to feedback and suggestions.
He holds on to some indefensibly horrible ideas once in a while

>wanted to force everyone to play with filthy clothing on
>when an option was added to disable filthy effects, he wanted to force those playing without filthy to have items displayed as filthy (he backed off when everyone univocally went "what the fuck", though)
>he's all for jacks and cranes, even in their halfway implemented form left by mugling
>doesn't understand how should UI look, supports "features" that do nothing but add tedium such as book id and replicas named like originals
>supports intentionally misleading accuracy display on ranged weapons

He can actually be convinced that he's wrong, which is obviously a good thing, but the problem is that the more wrong he is, the harder he defends his position.

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>>172350192
Really? Yeah.. I figured there must be at least something.
I can see where he's coming from with the filthy thing though.
>jacks 'n cranes
Haha didn't know that. That's kind of hilarious. Or charming. Or frustrating as hell, I dunno
>doesn't understand x
Damn, that's too bad. ..but not everyone can be Toady I guess.

At least he can actually be convinced, yeah. That's the most important part, I think (especially seeing how many people are contributing to Cataclysm and its mods at the moment).
>the more wrong he is, the harder he defends his position
Oh. Well that's not good

Thanks for the run-down. I hope he can stay level-headed and humble, since the game has fantastic potential, really.

On a related note, a thought: Vehicle physics in cdda is already a thing (sort of), but I wonder how hard it would be to implement vehicular angular momentum. Like if you crash into the corner/end of a vehicle, it will both spin and slide.

Wait
Are deathswords disallowed from reforging artefacts?

>>172351578
Well, they frankly don't get much out of it. Although I could remove that limitation - later.

>>172351578
Yes. Rings are as well.

>>172350896
DF's UI isn't exactly the best thing ever

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>>172349756
You've found antimoney.

>>172352903
Could you not reforge garbage armour onto a weapon and then eat it?

i drink all unidentified potions and read all unidentified scrolls as soon as pick them up

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>Clint brewer wants to talk!
>"Drop the fucking V29 Laser Pistol+, asshole!"
>Wielding a knife spear

>>172353637
Me too

>>172353637
I read ID scrolls but why would you ever read ID potions you fucking imbecile

>>172353637
best try all weapons and jewelry first. Then when you find a scroll of remove curse, you don't waste it

Anybody know if not opening chests in Gungeon increases the chance of finding A or S tier chests later on? Someone told me that but I can't find anything correlating it so I'm inclined to agree it's bullshit

>>172355769
Go ask the gungeon general.

>>172356505
no

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chaos resistance, pff, who needs it?

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>>172356652
HUGE!

>>172353745
>npc with a crossbow tries to mug me
>except they used all their bolts shooting zombies, so they are smacking me with it
>slowly stab them to death with my damaged knife spear
Could have went a lot worse.

>>172292803
Art/Act link is also very easy if you have Pyre Rite.

>>172353745
It's nice when they end pronouncing all the plusses

>>172358926
>teacher, anon has Nintendo Gameboy DS in his Jansport!

>>172338751
>D:2 MuMo
>Fist sigmund to establish dominance and jam his huge unwieldy tool up in my inventory

>>172349125
>Fork cock gun
That's DDA alright

>>172352905
Rings have a shop in Zul that sells literally only jewelery.
That's not fair.

>>172359856
rings have like 660 max hp at cl50 though

>>172360525
But they can possess stuff that has 3 K HP though

>>172360640
rings don't possess they just ride
that's like saying cavalry is invincible because they can sit on a great hell wyrm that has 6khp

>>172360803
Well, the mount tanks half the damage, so kinda

WHO THE FUCK MAKES A ROGUELIKE WITHOUT A NAME GENERATOR GODDAMIT

CENTAUR
A
V
A
L
R
Y

>>172360947
monsters have a 50/50 chance to target mount instead of you
if they target you they still do full damage
if they target mount with aoe spells like manastorm or breath you take damage as if you were 1 tile away (so half)

you still have a very high chance of bullshit instadeath

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>>172361002
>Not just using your real name
>not being John, the Mummy Berserker
>not being Allen, the Kobold Necromancer
>not being Edward the Deep Elf Conjurer
>not being Alex, the Ogre Gladiator
>not being Ronaldo, the Spprigan Hunter
>not being Jamal, the Halfling Transmuter
>not being Chad, the Octopode Assassin

>>172361215
>monsters have a 50/50 chance to target mount instead of you
I read it as
>monsters have a 50/50 chance to mount you instead
#just4chanthings

>>172361215
but you also get summons
and resistances out the w*zoo
and globe of invulnerability if necessary
AND ddoor
AND an actual sense of fun and novelty

Scroll of Immolation is so fucking op. Try in in Vaults 5 or even Orcish Mines just for the lulz
Trust me, you will survive maybe

>>172362480
Scroll of Immolation is pretty much an instant win on Vault:5, Elf:3, Slime, many Ziggurats if you have Makhleb which is basically the true otab god even through extended.

when picking things up in poschengband is there a way to get a dialog rather than just grabbing everything in the tile

>>172362760
turn on easy_floor in the options
i dont know why it isn't default

>>172362869
thank god

>>172362678
I always threw it away because of the color

>>172348291
That's like the opposite of the Granade I've seen. The one in my timeline always argues against any change, seemingly on principle.
I don't hate him, though, I just think he's kind of annoying to talk to. It's been like two years since the last stable release, so arbitrarily opposing new features does have some merit.

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>poschengband 5.0.5
>poschengband-R
>pseudoellipsoposchengband
>poschengband 6.0.0

help

Can Anzu hurt my shoggoth?

>>172366951
there is also a pseudoelliposchengband-R
also elliposchengband
and there used to be an mpa-poschengband as well

>>172367562
>not playing poschengband-R: psuedoellipsismpaposchengbandRemix

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>>172366951
>>172367562
>>172367940
>have serious issues making complex decisions where there isn't a clear optimal choice
>even something as simple as choosing between brands of detergent leaves me standing in the aisle for ten minutes
>panic when making complex decisions of valuation such as win legitimacy versus fun versus time cost versus variable xyz
>cannot commit to a choice unless absolutely certain
>wind up staring at the massive commit logs, doing nothing

you guys aren't helping

>>172368445
>tfw playing with 555 still

>>172368445
fck this is me

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>>172368548
NO

What the hell, oni are really hard to capture. I almost failed the link despite my Vikhor attacking between 3 and 5 times per turn.

who is the mibe of poscheng

>>172369370
Balrog warrior or Tonberry nature monk.

>>172366951
6 crashed on loading, last I heard, so don't play that.

>>172369370
i don't think anything in poscheng can win while playing as brainlessly and otabbily as a mibe

some OP options:
-tonberry monk of nature
-psion
-tonberry psion (start as blasty caster and transition to melee once you get the melee transformation power)
-skillmaster with craft and archery (i don't think this was nerfed in 6.00?)

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>>172369162
just use an offering

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>>172352961
That was a clever comment and deserves a reply.

>>172369787
>psion

Speaking of psions, is there a list of recommended powers?

>>172369979
I literally had an easier time capturing Anzu than the oni I got from his sanctum.

Although I did have the oni while capturing Anzu. Now I just gotta collect enough shekels to put Leadership on the oni, and maybe Oppressor for value against light enemies.

>>172370610
Take one of the offensive powers at level 1 unless you hate yourself. You can always repick with new life later.

The really bad ones are mostly obvious like the stealth one. Also you should probably take crafting for a bit if you are making a melee psion.

>>172370610
you get to re-choose your powers when you drink potion of new life, so don't get too hung up on getting the perfect set early on

off the top of my head:
-psionic speed is really good, up to a +20 bonus from the highest level version
-the detection power is a no-brainer, never skip this
-same for psionic transportation. eventual 0% fail dimension door is ridiculously OP
-clarity is good late but kinda useless early, i wouldn't take it until you're level 40-50 and you're using a !newlife to replace your level 1 damage spell because you have psistorm now
-if you ARE gonna !newlife at level 40, take crafting before you reroll and enchant all your shit for free

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Is tog too harsh to chemo?

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I LIVE BY THE SWORD

>>172372236
shit wrong general

>>172369370
Tonberry mauler

great race, great class

wait this isn't /svg/

>>172372816
Star vs. General?

>>172372757
My game won't let me play as that...

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>>172372937
sitting on vampires general?

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>>172372816
>>172372357
>>172372236
>>172372147
heh

>>172372236
>>172372357
>>172372816
>getting rused by a wrong thread post

how dumb r u??????

it clearly wasnt even an op post, what the h*ck

>>172371952

>>172373332
My girlfriend Satania is so cute

Anyone else play Tales of Maj'Eyal here?

>>172375021
Yes, but it's easy to graduate out of if you just give ASCII a try

>>172375021
no it's modal go to roguelite please
if you don't believe me look in the berlin interpretation it's a very accurate and relevant way to describe a rogueway

HOW

DO

YOU

FUCKING

BEAT

DRAGONCRAFT?

(Crawl Question) I just a +1 demon whip of freezing on my Human Berseker. Through Cross training he has min delay, since he has 20 on axes.
The weapon seems pretty strong, is it worth to use it from now?

>>172377014
Demon whips are strong base weapons but I'm pretty sure if you trained 20 axes t means you already have a decent axe
Also you cannot cleave with anything but axes so no comfy tabbing

>>172377014
A demon whip of freezing is decently strong, yeah, although you'll want a weapon with higher than 12(iirc?) base damage for enemies with high AC -- any enemy listed with AC+++ or higher, even AC++ in many cases.

Branding it to electrocution will be even better.

>>172377483
>>172377608
I realized I can't tab anymore. Fuck this whip, especially in orcish mines

>>172377786
Axes are frankly the best weapon for comfy tabbing
Also try switching to Makhleb eventually for hp on kills and you'll see how comfy it can get

Is there anything I should be aware of when trying to link with Reprobus?

>>172377014
Keep it around just for hydras. They get slowed by it + don't grow the new head.

>>172376512
It has an infinite dungeon mode that's non-modal

>>172378084
Sry super noob but am currently worshipping trog. I will read up on makleb but won't trog punish me hard when I change religion? How long will he punish and when is a good point to change?

>>172378452
Don't switch now, just try makhleb on your next run.

>>172378452
Trog's wrath can be pretty dangerous since he will keep summoning berseked enemies that pretty much surround you, and will do for some time.
If you have any source of invisibility from an item or lots of potions it's pretty easy to avoid.
Same with blinking/teleport scrolls or wand
Or just having enough defense and stats to massacred the enemies he summons.
Still if you aren't sure of it don't do it.
It's futile anyways, if this is one of your first times you will die eventually to a new monster with a gimmick you do'nt know about

>>172378284
you can't walk away

>DeVoe

OOOOH, VILLAIN FOR NEXT SEASON?

>>172378764
It would have been better to know that mordecai has a hidden ability that makes him deal double damage and take no damage.

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>>172378819
nani

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>>172376960
>>172378819

>>172378858
kek
so true

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>>172378930
do NOT frogpost

>>172378084
btw, is there a way I can edit my rc to disable the "more" messages for better comfy tabbing?

>>172378704
Usually play Minotaur, now I play human which are pretty much just a downgrade. Might aswell try it. My items are pretty dank this run though, so I will see

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>>172379189
>lumping apu apustaji in with frogposters