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/ndg/ - Nier/Drakengard General #31

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>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

If you have any suggestions or links you think would be useful, then respond with it to the OP and help build up the archives.

>[Official NieR:Automata page]
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

>[DRAKENGARD/NIER COLLECTION ARCHIVE] - World Guides, Novellas, Lore, etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

>[PC Troubleshooting]
http://pastebin.com/qEZD3VLJ

>[NieR:Automata Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia] - Untranslated, use Chrome
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>[/ndg/ Downloads Pastebin] - Ripped OST, Lewds, Steam Reskin
http://pastebin.com/YWG8irCu

Old >>171982569
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>you're just thinking about how much you want to **** 9s huh?
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>>172014491
Who else laughed at that line?
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Took me another playthrough to notice dem torches.
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>>172014630
Was it meant to be kill? Why would 9S think about killing 2B in that case
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>>172014714
What made them think that dying lead to them being gods?

I want to think it's the Project Gestalt data that was stored on their server but I unno.
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>>172014850
Thought they'd be reborn as "gods" afaik
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>>172013730
>There is no reason to believe that the cycle, on the android side at least, would continue in the same way based on the information that is given to use directly by the game.
No proof.
We don't know how they manage the cycle, but we do know that the bunker attack is a planned event.
I think that after tower collapses new cycle actually will be more about recreating humans using the genome than fighting machines.
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>>172014789
There are a lot of 4 letter words come to think of it.

Kill could be valid because 9S knows that 2B is actually 2E and assigned to him just to make sure he doesn't learn to much, and kills him to be reset to factory each time he does.

>>172014913
Either way, where did they get that notion from?
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>>172014850
>>172014913
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>>172015194
So like being tang'd in eva
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>>172015229
The same concept, except death doesn't unite like juice does.
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How to cum so hard to 2B's ass your vision goes blurry

Prerequisites:
Nier: Automata (game or related media)
1 DS4 Controller
1 USB Cable
BetterDS3 software
Autoclicker software
1 penis

1. Look at 2B
2. Set your auto-clicker to double click every 4 seconds
3. Select Edit in BetterDS3 next to your controller
4. Set Rumble to 150%
5. Click Test Light so it's set to On
6. Click Test Heavy so it's set to On
7. Hover cursor over Test Heavy and activate auto-clicker
8. Place penis on underside of DS4 controller between analog sticks
9. Hold DS4 controller by the cord to minimize the amount of vibration being dulled by your hand
10. Endure
11. Right as you're going over the edge remove controller from penis and jerk hard and fast. Correct timing achieves an almost double orgasm
12. Cum so hard to 2B's ass your vision goes blurry

Hope this helps!
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>>172015258
Well, in ending D all the machine consciousnesses are backed up on the moon-gun-ark-thing so maybe it is exactly like getting tanged.
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>>172015420
This sounds like the shit 9s would do
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>>172014714
[BECOME AS GOD INTENSIFIES]
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>>172015420
Does this work on a XBONE controller for the PC?
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Before the fall of yorha kicks off, 9s communicates with another scanner 11s.
This got me wishing to see other models interact with our two bionic babies. Am I the only one that wants to see another S model nudge nines in approval for getting paired up with the popular 2b?
also commander did 9 11s :^y
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>>172016123
Yes anon
You're the only one who wants the androids to be happy.
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>>172016208
correct. Everyone else would like to see them chopped up and put in the meat box
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Did anyone else have this weird Pushy Pascal glitch happen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE2gqhcRNoY
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>>172016260
Man, what was up with those "boxes" anyway. I feel like I missed something philisophical there.
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>>172016393
>playing with english VA
leave and never come back
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>>172016445
It symbolizes the trinity.
Body (meat)
Mind (god)
Soul

>>172016532
Optimal way to play the game is EN voice + EN subs or JP voice + JP subs.

JP voice + EN subs is cancer
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>>172016651
Lile id miss oit on Aoi Yukis voice just cuz i dont know jap.
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>>172016716
The localization isn't very good
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>>172016651
>JP voice + EN subs is cancer
you are infected by logical virus and have to be put down
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>>172016789

I think you're overreacting. It really ins't THAT bad.
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KAMI NI NARE
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>>172016789
Oh it's not that bad. There's a couple ones that are way off the voice line and the text, especially for Emil
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Reminder to talk to Anemone as A2 in C route after defeating desert thing and taking the filter quest from her.
powerful stuff
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I can't do anything.
Every game I've tried to play since finishing Automata just feels disappointing.
Nothing can live up to that experience.

This is exactly what I had wrongly expected with MGSV.
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>>172017430
It happened to me with MGSV too, just for the wrong reasons.
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>>172015009
From what I've read it actually is kill. Less of the word is censored in Japanese.
I don't understand why Adam would think that 9S wants to kill her. He doesn't know about 2E at that point.
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>>172017430
I feel the same.
I'm thinking about buying DS3 season pass to play through DLC, but i'm afraid i'll be disappointed and bored .
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>>172017492
>>172017430
If you've learned from Taro, then you'll find despair no matter where you go now!
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As a Muslim, I'm very happy that Taro-san has included our religion's fundamentals into this game.
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we wuz robots n shiet
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>>172017645
How did you put that green border on your window?
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9S is very nervous.
Give him some words of encouragement.
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>>172017761
I've seen so many glitches like this happen to other people yet I haven't seen a single one in over 40 hours.
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>>172017695
Colored border is an integrated feature of Win10.
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>>172017897
I've been using it since the official launch but I didn't know this.

Thanks.
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>>172010795
I beg to differ i've seen a 2B that while i wouldn't say exceeds actual 2B's high standard she meets them in her own way.
and a picture perfect Commander.i always knew deep down marrying was the right choice.
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>>172017867
Hoverhand only happened once. I don't know what triggered it.

This is the only other bug I encountered.
It happened every time I sprinted into a fallen table.
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>>172017761
Had that shit happen my first time through and little shit was stuck that way derp running behind me for 3 hours while i tried to marvel at shit.
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>>172017761
>GAS THE TWINS! ROBOT WAR NOW!
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>>172017971
wtb pics of picture perfect commander
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>>172017991
Happened for me when he got stuck behind some shit a mile back but tried to keep attacking so midswing he just rubberbanded to me in half a second and was stuck that way.
Fucker floated/ran that way till i transponded.
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>Cherish Our Resources. Have 100 bodies collected.
is this online thing?
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>>172017991
GET
DOWN
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>>172018157
Hol' up. Lemme jus nudge 'er awake for a photo sesh....
she might test run it at Detour in 2 weeks if i can convince her. Right now the outfits "incomplete" but i'm not seeing whats missing from it for the life of me. Either she means the "collar" thing which either we're going to make due with, have a buddy make a fitted one using that thermoplastic and a heatgun, or we get lucky off ebay or amazon or craigslist or some shit. OR she's just going back to being shy about people seeing her skin again despite there being zero fucking wrinkles or stretchmarks which is a god damn miracle and i pray our kid inherits those genes and not mine.
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>>172018432
Yeah. If you aren't online you can't see the player corpses which are the ones it wants.
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Post chuckles
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Does someone have the link to all weapon stories?
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I think this falls into running jokes category.
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>>172018732
meant for >>172018608
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>>172018608
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>>172018732
I don't get it.
Do I have to play the other Taro games?
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>>172014491
Ofcourse..
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>>172018979
9S never did fully recover from that virus.
Eventually it took over completely.
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>normal too easy
>hard too hard

fugg
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>>172019096
Hard is only hard early game before you get chips and stuff.
Just start normal and switch to hard later on.
Game gets better.
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>>172019096
Just push through it.
You won't see the full potential of the combat until you're good enough for hard.
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Lady Zero is cute. CUTE!

I mean, since D3's gameplay is serviceable at best, being fairly repetitive and lacking in enemy variety (not to mention a good chunk of the side missions are far too punishing to be considered fun)... latching on to Zero as a character is the only viable option here.
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>>172018850
>when you're the protagonist in a magnificent story but all people care about is your junk
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>>172019239
I thought it was fun....
Though i could be like Lord of the Rings anon where my hyper specific mumble mumble just happens to be DoD3's shit.
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I have no Idea why, but I was thinking of doing a "no way fag" edit with Caim and Angelus. What would be good for Angelus to say?
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I want to feel the softness of 2b's skin across the side of my face
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKt3EFOELwg
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>>172014325
A little question. Once I beat A I'm gonna be playing as 9S in B and after that as A2 in C right?

Will I have to do all of the side quests again? Will they be available in other routes or are the other routes just for the main story?
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>>172020184
All the completed sidequests are supposed to stay completed. For some reason Retrieve the Confidential Intel reset for me after ending A.
A few are character specific but most of them can be completed in either A or B.
AFAIK all the A/B sidequests disappear after ending B.
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>>172020126
Fuck, I was an idiot and always walked on the left/right pathways there taking me forever.
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Admit it, you've been all 'this shit again, not that I didn't expect this, treacherous whores'
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>>172020503
No I've been all "Ah, the cuties from the resistance camp are here to help me"
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>>172020503
I thought I was going to fight them and I never played Nier.
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>>172020364
Thank you very much. I'd kill myself if I'd have to do Jean Paul's Melancholy yet again.
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>>172020503
That was my exact reaction...and then the atonement theme kicks me right in the heart
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9S screaming like a little bitch at the end of D was probably the worst thing ever
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>>172020650
Pre-programming their guilt has been the cruelest shit ever
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>>172020661
I think that the jap VA did a pretty good job in that part
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>>172020661
His death throes gave me a boner.
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>>172020661
I dunno man, seemed likke a good job to me.

Run a sharp stick through your own guts and records yor own screaming so i could compare.
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>>172021694
man that writhing on the ground genuinely looked fucking painful
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>>172021762
but why was he screaming? a2 wasnt screaming she just instant died and 2b didnt scream like that when she got stabbed either no one did except for him
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>Adam and Eve
I'm surprised at how much I ended up enjoying them as characters. At first I thought they were lame, typical JRPG pretty boy villains, but I enjoyed their conversations in route B and even started finding them kind of endearing. I almost teared up during the text scene in ending D.

I'm glad they found peace.
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Just finished Five's prologue. That was a mistake. She is just outrageously annoying and shallow. In fact, given the game's tone, I'm a little disappointed they didn't go further with her. She should've talked about wanting to fuck that centaur, or comparing each monster type's dick size.

Let's hope the next sister is more interesting.
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4S wants more enemies but I have no idea what I'm missing.
I've done every ending but D E Y
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>>172021898
Rage and desperation
Something inside is telling him he just killed A2 for no objective reason and she held the last memories of 2b and she wasn't even his enemy.
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>>172021898
somebody made nice remark about it that their pre-death behavior is a reflection of their mental state
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>>172021898
2B and A2 are much better at hiding their suffering.

9S didn't care about being professional or dignified or ANYTHING anymore and it hurt like hell so he screamed as much as he could.
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>>172021898
I dont even think he actually fought to win.
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>>172021898
>but why was he screaming?

Actually we have had 9s losing limbs repeatedly.
It's not physical pain he is screaming about.
He's screaming out of rage
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/ndg/ I just finished the game and I have no motivation to play anything else anymore because nothing else will compare, what do I do?
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>>172023292
Nothing.
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>>172023292
ive been feeling this way for a week now
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>>172023292
Find someone who can bring you happiness and who you can protect from the pain and suffering.
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Did Taro answer that anon about android having genitals?
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>>172021898
They were both more accepting of their fate. 9S died kicking and screaming because its what the world around him brought him to
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>>172023812
No... ;_;
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>tutorial operator in Bunker tells me you can change clothes at a transport terminal
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how is yorha written in japanese? Does it use kanji, katakana or what?
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>>172024280
Supposedly it uses the Kanji for Passing Leaf and Taro just thought it was cool sounding.
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>>172024259
Maybe you should tweet it to him instead of a message or something.
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>>172015194
>RoDiTD
i wonder if we can find a 4chan in the future
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>>172024259
The dude barely speaks English at all and you message him in such flowery fashion. It would be best to find a weeb and message him in Jap, if anything.
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Started devouring books on nihilism and existentialism after finishing nier


No idea where this is taking me, but I feel like it's too late to stop
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>>172024784
>>172024614
Someone translate it into weebanese i'm not good at this.

Google translate says this is what he'll see when he translates that.
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>>172024939
Too small man.
Google the names of all the bosses, find primers on them, read those, then branch out to their other works.

You're basically looking at a Javascript for idiots and expecting it to teach you every programming language and how to build a PC.
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Um, so that's Four's prologue. Now that's more like it.

Wow. Four, you horrible, sanctimonious piece of shit. Goddamn. Why couldn't Five be this entertainingly awful?

Well, on to Three. I have no idea what to expect.
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>>172024275
there are no clothes at all

>no cat ears for A2
>no white dress for 2B PSO has it as a rare drop on a premium scratch
>no swimwear for commander
>no cardboard box machine suit for 9S
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>>172025151
>three
Enjoy that.
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>>172024969
That seems good.
I think Taro would get a kick out of it.
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So the lore of """"""transporters"""""" is that the ones set up in the world have spare parts in them which are assembled into your own unique body which then has your consciousness transferred into it, right?

And why the fuck is 9S always there before me?
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>>172025486
Maybe scouts get priority when traveling.
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>>172025486
>they have spare parts for all unique weapons and their upgrades
wow wat
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>>172025486
You're close.
Basically all androids use a standardized frame hence them all being the same height barring heel sizes.
This makes everything a standard size in the transponder to so shit works for everyone.
When you pop into a new one the transponder takes an empty frame, fills the internals to spec using your info, then gives it the covering also stated in your info.
>why is 9S always there before me
he's nuclear powered.
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Reminder that 9S was a dilberately shoehorned in character. Added in order to appeal to the common demographic that requires a forced lead male and female romance to enjoy their fiction. Like just about every trash anime that is released these days.

Taro then subverted this by having 2B kill 9S repeatedly and never be happy.

9S should have been a female but was likely denied by square enix due to muh demographics.

Proof? YoRHa is a female only combat unit, all the prototypes were female. The S unit should have also been female. And based off the S unit from the YoRHa stageplay.
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>>172025728
Magic, ain't gotta splain shit, taro, 3D printing.
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>>172025783
Scanner models have to be male because men are smarter
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>>172025783
>shoehorned
Dude literally had a fight with the Dev team that halted production over this shit.
9S would have been a Adam/Eve lookalike and 2B would have been a hyper loli.
Taro had to make concessions in places such as the romance but we got 2 younger people (demographics in japan like this while the rest is indifferent) but 2B got the worlds most perfect ass at the cost of her not having a matching rack like in his dreams whereas 9S got shunted into the submissive male category. Originally there was no romance just a deep friendship and respect between brothers in arms but SE feared it wasn't relatable.
Taro worked with what he was given beautiful all things considered.
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>>172025987
You should ring your supplier... That's some low quality bait.
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>>172026191
I mean...technically, he's right given the lore of the game. S-Models are the smartest and most advanced models and they ARE male.
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>>172025750
Do they have a fucking atom replicators inside? Or how the fuck do they transport the unique weapons like accords ones and the chips?
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>>172026093
>Dude literally had a fight with the Dev team that halted production over this shit.
Tell me about that.
I heard people talking about it but I don't know shit about drama during production.
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>>172026093
9S legitimately brings the game down, he isn't remotely a good character. He's your typical anime rage guy who finds out he's been betrayed and goes on a psychopathic hurr durr warpath. Only for better characters to then unjustifyably sacrafice themselves for him.

If 9S and 2B have any legitimate reason to be romantically interested in one another, it all happens off screen before the game. And thus doesn't in anyway help or contribute to 9S not being a shitty character.
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>>172026353
Please see
>>172025827

Its probably magitech and the usual Dimensional Pocket all protagonists and storage devices use in this genre.
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>>172017761
>hoverhanding
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>>172026353
it's a videogame, how do they carry around hundreds of consumables and materials in their asscrack? How can they jump from mid air?
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>>172026448
Keen observation of the filename there buddy.
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>mfw BigGuy4You's data has been lost
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>>172025728
My conjecture is that both the Androids and their weapons are constructed entirely of nanomachines, note how both weapons and dead androids can dissolve when given (presumably) some command by a still living android. In normal function the nanomachines are organized into ordered macrostructures, but when commanded they fall apart into a cloud of particles.
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Is the weapon story for the Emil Heads on the wiki right? It's dated 500 years after the game.
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>MGR comes out on pc in 2014
>needs a resolution fix to work and they never released an official patch
surely platinum has gotten his shit together since last time
>Automata comes out on pc in 2017
>fullscreen resolution is still fucked
>no official patch
if fans can fix it in 24 hours every time how can it be so difficult?
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>>172026425
9S is a great character.
Hes a well made beta nerd boy who cares about 2B because she's about the only person he knows.
Then he goes hysterical whn he lost everything he cared about which is exactly whjat happens to people when shit hits the fan.

Also Pop-Dev sacrificed themselves for him for their own personal reasons that they thoroughly explained right at the spot.
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>>172026638
im more willing to belive a dedicated point to point telly porter
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>>172026384
Basically taro wanted a more mature team and for 2B to be his idealized Oppai Onee-san.
The dev team and SE wanted a hyper loli and an edgelord.
Their fighting halted production so they settled on everyone being young adults, 2B gets the ass yoko taro dreamed of with a more petite upper body but only if she wears heels 24/7 cause thats like taro's TomCruiseMotorcycle but the relationship had to be reworked from both ends so now 9S gets to be the "younger" member which also sells well so SE still won technically.
SE has to use demographics cause Taro's shit doesn't usually sell amazingly so they felt they needed every successful trope they could get whereas Taro hates you cramping his style.
Its not the best outcome but considering the trainwreck SE wanted and Taro salvaging what he could its still a damn sight better than neutral.
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>>172026558
We should do a Taro pic with the subtitles being "no one cared who i was until i put on the mask." Or a Despair4U.
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>>172026709
>Oppai Onee-san.

Taro is /My Guy/
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>>172026425
>He's your typical anime rage guy who finds out
but you are wrong, faggot
He didn't rage when he found out that his life is a lie.
He only raged because his only close friend were killed right before his eyes.
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>>172023292
Make the sacrifice and start over.
A lot of the strange ways the characters act are going to make a lot more sense too.
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>>172026686
Yes.
>>172026698
He's the 9S baiter. Ignore and hide.
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>>172026853
And then his anger and denial about YoRHa's truth only made it worse, he had an exponential downward spiral
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>>172026871
So the pods were right about the possibility of the same thing happening again, huh
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Did Adam and Eve know YoRHa was lying about there being humans on the moon?
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just picked this up after several friends with good taste in games recommended it

after throwing a few hours at it, I only have one question

how the hell do I play dressup and switch clothing on the main character/s? would prefer something less fluffy on 2B
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>>172026709
I think 2B worked out exactly as a harsh but caring older sister to me constantly trying to set Nines straight "stop being emotional" "stop questioning orders" "don't go outside without a hat"

And Nines looked to me like a teenage nerd little brother or something.
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>>172026709
Still makes 9S generic trashbait though.
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>>172026980
You can't switch clothes NOW GET OUT BEFORE YOU GET SPOILED!
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>>172026980
Beat the game and you get some cool armour.
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>>172026972
Probably not.
In fact Adam didnt know anything except what he learned by looking around himself and reading old books he found in the ground.

He literally thought apples made people intelligent.
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>>172026972
Depends how much access they had to N2's network.
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>>172026972
Obviously not or else they wouldn't have bothered asking politely to dissect them.
N2 probably didn't even know until it fucked up the yorha servers.
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>>172027059
fuck, aight

>>172027064
thanks
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>>172027097
Good point. In the end they were no better than the humping machines that created them.
>>172027131
They probably did but that didn't matter since >>172027157
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It sucks that they don't have money for DLC
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>>172027216
>the machines gave birth after an orgy
Well at least they kind of understand sexual reproduction.
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>>172026941
Possibly but probably.
>>172026972
Nah. Even connected they were still ultimately separate. They ony know what info they could glean from nearby. Ex: they read the bible but didn't have any context so they were just going through the motions to see if somehow it just MADE them understand. Why are we eating apples? Humans gained knowledge from them. Why are we wearing underwear? Humans found showing their genitals problematic. Etc. all they could do was walk in the same shoes and hope that literally gave them knowledge.
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>>172027267
>best selling yoko taro game
>squix has now 2 choices
>DLC or the mobage they already started
sadly the mobage will handle alote of monies more that it possibly should, mobage whales are fucking retarded.

only good thing is that we should get nier and drakengard characters on it
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>>172027267
>It sucks that they don't have money for DLC

Square has money for anything it wants... Square just doesn't want to invest in DLC if the game sales are as poor as Nier. Reminder that square-enix are the ones that said: "3.4 million copies of Tomb Raider have been sold in four weeks, publisher Square Enix has revealed, which is not enough to hit the game's sales target."
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>>172027307
But no one told them about babbies.
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>>172027406
Square are already back to treating yoko taro like a commodity.

That mobage trash will likely convince Taro to go back to being unemployed.
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It feels so good to be able to participate in these threads now that I don't have to worry about spoilers.
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>>172027307
>Well at least they kind of understand sexual reproduction.

Machines were literally humping each other fot thousands of years trying to make a baby like humans do until it actually worked.
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>>172027504
>tfw he gets even by adding a restaurant on the next nier game
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How do I get pascals book to spawn?
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>>172027465
Nah. Remember the robot rocking the cradle going "child, child,..." during the orgy. They knew the motions of love they just didn't understand it.
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>>172026941
I think they were referring more to the 3 protagonists than the world as a whole when they said that was a possibility. Considering that same weapon story also mentions him meeting someone that sounds exactly like 2B 500 years later, I like to believe that while the world may or not be fucked again, our protagonists are doing pretty well for themselves.
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>>172027606
You have to sacrifice child and a truly innocent being in front of an altar to Yoko Taro to amass enough despair for him to hear your wish.
Perhaps the Pascifist Village knows something?
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>>172027750
looking at the video about it its just there by default.
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>>172027750
Children*. Just onne shall not do.
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>>172027787
Oh. I only found it after the place went to Despair Town population: 1.
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>>172017430
Gonna see if Persona 5 can fill the void for me.
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>>172027880
Did you finish the quest where you turn in all the archives to him? Maybe that's it.
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>>172018853
A2 keeps saving 9S by killing the ones he loves right in front of him, but 9S never understands.
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>Ps4 HDMI fucking died during Ending E shump
anyway good game
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>>172028141
>but 9S never understands.
He does though.
He's still mad
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>>172020503
I thought it was a great callback to the original. Devola and Popola were both fantastic characters in the original, and I loved the VN part for them in Automata.
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>>172028159
Better than having it fucking crash on the PC version.
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>>172028208
>have to hack hard on 2B to clear her of the virus!
>A2 stabs her before he gets to make a move
no matter how you look into it, he should be Platinum mad anyway
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>>172027602
>Next Taro game is a Diner Dash clone with shmup elements
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>he actually gathers the achievments legitimatly
Who else has bought their Platinum trophy?
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>>172028085
Maaaybe? Try it?
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>>172028313
>end credits is serving sushi to all the marketing department
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>>172028373
>bought
Explain
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>>172028518
the trophy/achievment shop?
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>>172025750
This shit is making me hesitant to use transporters. I tend to only use fast travel when it makes sense in some way
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Great game but after doing the first three endings I honestly have no desire to continue. Maybe burnt out?
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>>172028373
I couldn't bring myself to buy any.
I had plenty of money with nothing to spend it on but it just seemed cheap.
I'm not a trophy whore but I don't want a record of my achievements to be a lie.
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>>172028607
Dude, you literally only have to play for 15 more minutes to get the last 2.
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>>172028373
No.
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>>172028373
At this point I'm going to buy everything but all endings and get that trophy last, I have 0 desire for pod farming
hopefully I don't buy the all endings trophy by accident
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>>172028607
>the first three endings

Use chapter select to the last chapter and chose a diffewrent character
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>>172027670
If pods can learn to love, anything is possible I guess.
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>Hey 2B, why do you think they sent a combat model if all they need is intel? We Scanners are built for that kind of thing
>mfw it all makes sense now
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And that's Three's prologue.

Three is adorable when technobabbling. Wish we could've seen more of that in the main game, but still. Also, the twist at the end was pretty good.

Okay, now on to Two. Should be interesting since two Branches focused on her for whatever reason.
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>>172028684
watch you fucking up getting ending Y
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>>172028781
>both 210 and Sb want to be professional with him.
>They both have probably seen him die many times
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>>172028853
I already have ending Y
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>>172028373
i bought shit achievements like kill 50 things during via hacked robot.
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>Model E? I didnt know such thing existed
>#Something# E is casually named during the first shmup sequence as if her identity was no secret at all
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>>172028636
>>172028692
Yeah I'll get around to it soon but fuck man I just don't like being 9S.
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>>172028948
>I just don't like being 9S.
He isn't that bad if you get used to his combat potential.
You can get taunt charge attack and crits, learn to do combos by swapping weapons and get used to his inconvenient strong attack
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What would you do if you had a thirsty 2B?
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>>172029574
Those are some incredibly cute designs
Fem9S looks like some unkept hikki kind of girl who would totally lust over male2B constantly
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>>172029574
>Punished loli gone mad
I like that idea
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>>172029453
Use her as a mattress while i ram commanders tailpipe.
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>>172014325
pepe automata is a shit
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Goodnight everyone.
It was an honor to suffer with you. Truly.
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>>172029453
>9S has, like, the only non-lesbian YoRHa girl
>turns her away when she comes on to him

It's like he wants A2 to take 2B in a rare yuri NTR scene. I now want to see this doujin desperately.
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>>172016123
Watch them all turn out to crave dick and 9S is the weirdo.
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I dont have a console and mental capacity to endure Drakengard 3 gameplay.

Does the uncensored version of 5 death even exist?
Or is the "the sound is inappropriate for human consumption" the actual genuine part of the game?
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>>172029721
Nah. A4 was the dyke. 2B and A2 have the same personality so they're both the sub. It'd just be an awkward moment or 2 maybe one comes close to cracking that ice but then 9S pops up or some well timed call from the commander or their operator happens and the moment is gone.
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>trying to explain to someone who recently completed the game the meaning behind ending E and "what's the point if the cycle just continues and all this shit happens again"

really makes me realise how uninformed some people can be
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>>172029871
Geuine part.
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>>172025783
That just makes it less sexist. An entire series of hot women built for the sole purpose of being disposable? That's the sexist thing ony a misogynistic female and male androids would think of.
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>>172030027
just say being alive is important
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>>172030372
Thats subjective.
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Just finished ending E. Pod is the biggest fucking bro ever.
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Did Intoners really deserve what Zero did to them?
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1. is the thing where you shoot your hand at people counter?

2. if so, why does it sometimes do literally no damage

3. if so, why does it sometimes trigger when i definitely don't have it equipped, nor have i recovered it from anyone else
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>>172030840

i want to *** pod 153
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>>172030027

>have to say that life isn't meaningless to continue

That part kind of rubbed me wrong. I'm not even an edgelord, I find focusing on the meaninglessness a nice relief for my anxiety and depression.
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>>172030871
It doesn't matter, really. Them just being alive would lead to the flower destroying everything.
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>>172022158
H-Help?
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If I don't have a working PS3 (only PS4 and PC) is there anyway at all for me to experience Drakengarde/original Nier? Or am I basically stuck to just watching a lore video or a lets play
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>>172030907
Read what absurdism means and then realise how it applies to the pods ending
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>>172031025
Emulator is your only hope
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>>172031020
You need to find all the red and black painted machines. They are rare spawns... And by all I mean every variation.
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>>172030120
Can't say I give a fuck about apparent depictions of sexism in fictional media, sorry.
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>>172030897
042 please.
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>>172030871

No, but: >>172030953

If Zero didn't step up to bat, One would have had to. In fact, given that the other Intoners trusted her, One would have had a much easier time of it.
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I wonder if debug mode is fun...
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>>172030840
People that say "Pod is the best character/bro" forget that all of those events happened because of the Pods in the first place.
They're the ones who left a backdoor to the servers.
They're the ones who let all the YoRHa get infected and didn't stop it.
They're the reason why the Commander, 21O, 6O and 2B died.
Don't forget that.
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>>172019171
You could beat very hard and never see the full potential of the combat. The perfect evade system they copied from Devastation and the plethora of ranged options alleviate the necessity of any real skill in beating the game as long as one is patient and defensive.
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>>172030881
Isn't that just the hold attack for fist weapons?
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>>172031606
Sure is.
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what are the best weapons? I ended up using Level 4 sword and spear of the weapons D&P sold
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>>172032373
Machine sword and the white spear along with deadly heal.
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>Go to /gif/ to look for some 2B
>Find a thread
>It's completely spammed to hell with "BECOME AS GODS"
PCfags ruin every community.
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Where is the best place to farm memory alloys?
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... Just finished Two's prologue.

I need a drink.

Welp, of to One's story. Been really looking forward to this one since she's my favorite of Zero's sisters. I gotta know what's going on with her.
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>>172029961
>2B and A2 have the same personality
Only in english.
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>>172032510
go become as gods faggot
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>>172032510
>I went to one of the most cancerous meme boards for porn
I'm not sure what you expected.
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>>172032097
They weren't programmed to feel things. They developed over time.

It's probably the council over Project Geztalt that did all this anyways, since they have authority over producing and stopped twins fom being produced in all future lines.
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>>172032510

Memefags and normies ruin every community, anon.
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>>172032549
I forget whether you can get them in the desert apartment pit but you'll almost certainly need the other materials there for weapon upgrades so it won't be a huge loss if you can't get them there.
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Why did they make fist weapons so shitty?
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>>172032416
why machine sword? It has pretty bad stats
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In automata if you are using heavy sword and fists, one of the combos is like a baseball wind up and you swing and hit the fist weapon like a baseball but it doesnt seem to do any dmg. whats up?
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>>172032510
At least it's not Undertale.
I'm thankful that Nier has a basic casual filter and can't be consumed in 5 hours or less.
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>>172032745
But fist weapons are the best?
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>>172032828
git gud
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>>172032510
>After making this post suddenly more BECOME AS GODS appear
Seems like you guys are no better
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>Play Route B for the first time
>wtf only one weapon
>hacking? lolwut?
>fucking minigame?
>i suck at it
>fucking minigame EVERYTIME?
>What a load of bullshit
>it does shit ton of damage
>hmm he's not so bad
>it's actually pretty fucking OP
>get a bat
>realize how OP 9S is
>got gud with shmup minigame
>hmm that's actually pretty fun
And thus Taro made me love shmups
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>>172032941
They have slow windup and no range and worse damage than other shit.
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Where can I get a 2B dakimakura?
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>>172032986
>slow windup
Are you using them in the heavy slot?
They're the fastest weapons in the game.
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>>172032974
>now I love shmups 'cause I played baby's first twin stick
lol k
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>>172033037
They're visibly slower than light swords though.
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>>172032510
>PCfags
become as gods you fucking faggot
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>>172033116
Wrong
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>>172033116
If you self destruct cancel and only do the first two moves of a light sword light combo, maybe. Are you pretending to be retarded?
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>yfw Ending E credits and SQUARE ENIX appears
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>>172032620
did you also read the prequel novellas? They're pretty good
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>>172032510
I actually like Possessed by Disease alot
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>>172032974
>got gud with shmup minigame
>hmm that's actually pretty fun

Tell me that at soulbox faggit.
I was screaming already when hit Eve at route B
Well, after the soulbox everything was great compared to it.
>hacking
>feel relaxing
>its boring
>but at very least i'm not in the fucking soulbox.
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How the hell does the Bodies Infected stat/mechanic work? I've 100%'d the game and never got a single tick in either of those stats.
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>>172032974
>tfw you hijack a stubby and subjugate three of those massive swinging arms motherfuckers
>tfw you lead a suicide attack against that horde of enemies in the robot orgy area and pop out as 9S to finish the murdering
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>>172033518

3? Amateur hour, my friend.
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>>172033330
>Publisher and specially Marketing Department are the hardest enemies in the entire game

meta
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>>172033518
>>172033696
Wonder how long it took to implement player controls for every normal machine enemy. Seems almost a waste of time considering how rarely you need to use it.
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Just found Pod C, don't have Pod B but I wanted to ask how I should use it

So far I've been using Pod A with laser program for big group encounters since it can fuck a lot of enemies up at a time and the damage per bullet is consistent

on the flip side I've been using Pod C with shield program against heavy enemies or smaller encounters since all the rockets fire on the same enemy, which does a lot of consecutive damage to all enemies
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>>172033973

AAA game dev here, probably not as long as you think. More so than just one character but not as long as if they had to do the same for every single robot.

You can abstract a lot of the control scheme away and it becomes fairly trivial based on how you build. Even an engine like UE4 has support pretty much right out of the box to allow for controlling multiple characters like that, and while Platinum obviously build their own engine, it wouldn't be a huge time sink to do it.
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>>172033330
>Square Enix is the true final boss
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>>172033518
>Caim's status: Loving this shit!
>Manah's pants status: Thoroughly shat!
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>>172033973
Actually, it's common to do that during development to playtest and debug the general behaviour of the enemies since usually that's done before the actual AI is implemented.
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Where in the fuck is this chest?
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>>172034317
Above you you DOOFUS
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>>172034061
Pod B just lies in the middle of a desert.

If you ever hear an EAR RAPE sound of high pitch whine that causes you physical pain - it's the pod or some other weapon.
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>>172034317
Inside one of the bridge support things iirc
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That side quest with the resistant member adopting the S model Yorha he stole was creepy as shit
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>>172034416
But I found Pod C lying in the desert, I think B is the one you fish
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>>172034416
no, Pod B is the one you have to fish
Pod C is the one in the desert
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>>172034378
>>172034417
wew
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How do I get the celestial alphabet text that I see people using?
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>>172034438
P-please kill me.
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>>172034553
9S can read it
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>>172034553
9S can read it
Play further and it will all appear in English later
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>>172034653
>>172034667
if 9S can read it, why can't he read the name of the Meat Box? Is that not the same language?
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>>172034438
>was creepy as shit
It wasnt.
If #S didnt like him he would have ripped his head clear off.
And BTW S models are lonely as fuck and really want to have a friend
>>
>>172034653
>>172034667
You mean it appears by default on a first run? Damn, I must be really unobservant.
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>>172034747
Well maybe 9S's POD can read it,
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>>172034747
He hacked them duh.

He can't hack words on a Box.
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>>172034843
>You mean it appears by default on a first run? Damn, I must be really unobservant.
Yes.
Names are spelled in gibberish only when you play as 2B
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>>172028373
Platinum is piss easy in Automata why would i even buy them
>>
How do I get Emil to sell rare materials? He only sells Rustend Clump and that other low-tier materials every time. I just need a couple of shit to max the weapons goddammit
>>
>>172034438
Nah. Being left for dead by YoRHa who only cared about the chips was worse.

They even stage him and the Resistance guys death as a machine attack.
>>
>>172035024
I dont feel like grinding, I felt it was time to let go and move on
>>
>>172035024
I bought time wasting shit like kill x enemies with y and ride a boar for 5km, it's not like there was any challenge to it
>>
>>172035062
he has 3 routes
-chips
-low level mats
-high level mats
it changes depending where he spawned.
he sells weapons and high level mats when he is in front of resistance camp route
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>>172019568
>Lord of the Rings anon
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>>172035062
>>172035225
He despawns and respawns when you cross the bridge to the forest/

So you can keep respawning him until he's at the camp.
>go to the forest
>go to the bridge
>check the map
>he's not near the camp
>repeat
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>>172035225
Do I need to retransport myself there if he doesn't spawn fast or do I have to wait?
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anyone want to turn this into Caim?
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>>172035384
You mean the passage from City Ruins to Pascal's Village?
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Playing DoD3
>kill Two
I feel really bad about this one. Fuck.
>no option to kill Cent
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>>172035507
the rope bridge between the city ruins and the king's forest
>>
what is up with the top of the building near the starting area? the building with the redhaired yorha android. If you climb the ladder all the way up the path outside is blocked by crates or something
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>>172029453
Bet they fucked afterwards because 2B is persuasive.
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>>172035672
play the game
>>
>>172035225
What chapter does one have to be in for him to spawn with his high level material shop inventory?

I ask because I got him to spawn with it once and I purchased the two weapons he sells plus some materials.

I could never get him to sell his high level materials again, despite the fact that I got him to spawn in front of the resistance camp multiple times.

The only thing I can guess is that he has a lower/no chance to sell his high level materials inventory after you've purchased his weapons, or I was too early in the story (or too late? god forbid that there's a sweet spot in the middle one must be in).

It also seems like he won't spawn at all if you're too late in the story. After talking to him once in the desert he's stop spawning for me as late late game 9S.

Someone give me the skinny on this Emil bullshit.
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>>172035713
I finished the game
>>
So what do you lose when you die in this game? I only played on normal.
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>>172035776
ending A isnt finishing the game
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>>172035798
Chips
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>>172035823
Ending E is?
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>>172035798
Chips and I guess some exp early game. You can reload save and get your chips back even early game when the bunker is still up, though.
>>
>>172035890
Then I don't see how it's still locked for you
Sucks to be you I guess
>>
How can people do the ending that requires you do go online if they dont have PS+?
>>
>>172035972
What ending requires you to go online
>>
>>172035776
go to one of the later chapters, it will always be locked on the earlier ones
>>
>>172035768
Route C for high level materials near resistance camp
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>>172036076
my save is in save nirvana and I dont care enough to replay the game
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>>172035972
It's not a multiplayer, so i guess you don't need PS+ for that
You don't need to have it to post messages in Bloodborne for example
>>
>>172035972
It doesen't require PS+, it works fine without it
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>>172036168
The only thing you get up there are Adam's glasses anyway.
>>
>>172036168
You can find the table where Adam and Eve interact in cutscenes there, you can't do anything with it though
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>>172036152
Nah. He stopped spawning for me when I picked third playthrough chapters as 9S, so it's got to be more complicated than that.
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>>172035972
>How
the hard way
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>>172036318
wait what? I've been there multiple times and I found nothing
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Anyone else think that A2 is hotter then 2B?
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>>172036457
You pick it up from Adam's chair. You can wear them and be /fa/ as fuck.
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>>172036409
Because his entire existence resets every time you select a new chapter, so you first gotta do the encounter with him near the desert and then reload until he starts doing his usual patrols
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>>172032097
While you are right you have to remember that they were never meant to be more than simple support tools. Them developing a conciousness was not part of the plan and they did end up being bros.
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>Blade pod program destroys bullets and lasts longer than the actual bullet shield program.
What did they mean by this?
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>>172036473
With long hair equipped
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>>172036473
Her ass is bigger but inferior in shape.
>>172036550
pleb, long hair is shit taste
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>>172036473
No question about it
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>>172036515
I specifically stated in my original post that he stops spawning after I speak to him near the desert.
>It also seems like he won't spawn at all if you're too late in the story. After talking to him once in the desert he's stop spawning for me as late late game 9S.
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>>172036539
Does it destroy both types of bullets?
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>>172032510
>implying you need to be a PCfag to become as gods
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>>172036650
Except he doesn't.
Keep reloading.
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>>172036521
geez, why does that remind me of something
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>>172036720
>Except he doesn't.
I know from personal experience that he does. "Thanks" for the "help" though.
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Finished One's prologue. The whole time, I had that "One is the loneliest number" song stuck in my head.

But yeah, One is pretty great, and a surprisingly complex villain. Once again, disappointed that this stuff is barely in the main game. I also love Gabriella.

So I guess it's about time move on to my girl Zero and finish this DLC. Then all that's left is that novella, and the supplementary material will have finished
explaining the stuff that should've been in the game proper to begin with.
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>>172032316
Sweet Jesus, that juggle. Nicely done.
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>>172036830
And I know from personal experience that he doesn't because I've used his shop in every chapter on route C before entering the tower.
So your personal experience is absolutely irrelevant when he factually DOES appear during those chapters as a shop.
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WTF does A2 even do inside 9S's head that causes her to drop dead and make the tower crumble?
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>>172036867
The DLC really isn't worth it. I like what it adds, but 30 bucks for it all is just awful, especially since it's just a grindfest in maps you've already been in.
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>>172033761
Woah.
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Guys, I'm stuck at 98% Unit Data on Nier Automata.

Is the remaining 2%, the Emil boss?
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>>172036918
personally I bought everything from him in chapter 7-2 so you don't even need to go to route C, though it's pretty random what makes him change route and what he sells when he does
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>>172037225
Use the jap wiki to see what you're missing. He does count, though.
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>>172037225
there are unit data lists online
be self sufficient and do some comparison
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>>172036946
Oh I agree, gameplay wise it's pretty crap, but D3's gameplay was already pretty meh to begin with. I'm in this for the surprisingly entertaining story and characters. It might be the case that Yoko Taro is a better writer than a game designer.
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>>172037387
>It might be the case that Yoko Taro is a better writer than a game designer.
Gee you think?
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Finally done! Now I'll just sit around listening to music until I hit a clean 70 hour file, then I'll start up a new file so I won't be terribly overpowered for the DLC.
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>>172037745
The actual madman actually suffered getting all the fish
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>>172037859
>he doesnt know
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>>172037859
I just idly fished while talking to friends. It was pretty relaxing.

I still wish the fishing were more involved like in Nier 1, though. That was really fun.
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Did someone scan and upload the automata world guide novels yet?
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>>172038020
no it wasnt
fuck nier 1 fishing
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>>172038283
noob
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>>172038283
Nier 1 fishing was fun. I enjoy the more involved fishing of games like Nier or Okami.

Automata's fishing is basically just pokemon tier.
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>>172038283
welcome to the Drakengard/Nier fanbase, where the quality of tasks is judged by the level of attentional involvement they demand and the tediousness of their repetition

it's not enough for something to be tedious, it must also demand your attention while being so
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>Every girl on previous Taro games
>Sluts with huge amount of semen from random guys inside them
>Degenerate failures like Kaine
>MUH GUILT grills

>Automata came out
>2B pure thicc delicious android
>A2 faithful for A4 clit
>Commander a pure goddess

Seems like Taro finally improved the girls on his games.
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>>172037859

I like fishing...
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Why did aliens attack earth again?
I played the first Nier and thought the androids were lying about the ayy lmaos
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>>172038708
>commander
>pure
>tried to hit on 6O and got shot down by her
lmao
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>>172038708

> commander a goddess

commander is dating 21O
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be honest, how many of you actually gave up your savefile.
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>>172038795
no reason is ever given, they just show up and attack earth in the drama cd and Emil fights against them
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>>172038798
>>172038845
Commander dumped the slutty operator because the work is more important than chilling around with one of the countless sluts on YoRHa faggots.
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>>172038852
I gave up A savefile.
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>>172038939
>Commander
>dumped
She's the one that GOT dumped
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>>172038962

if you give them up it deletes all of them

unless you savescummed in which case fuck you
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>>172038989
>Not paying attention at 6O dialogue

6O said herself that she was rejected by her crush, play the game.
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>>172038852
I gave up my savefile in Nier and after buying all the trophies I gave up my save file in automata
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>>172039052
Wrong
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>>172039030
>unless you savescummed in which case fuck you
:^)
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>>172038708
>>A2 faithful for A4 clit
A4 likes this. Best girl!
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>>172039052

6O is crushing on Commander and tried to get with her. Commander declined her because she is currently dating 21O.

21O starts to have feelings for 9S during route C.9S and dumps Commander. Commander is now dumpee and is sad.
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>>172039030
sue me faggot
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>>172039152

who even teh fuck is A4? I saw nothing in the game about an A4. That wouldnt make sense because A2 is only called A2 because she was number 2 and they decided to add the letter to her designation afterwards. Anyone after her would have been 3A, 4A
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>>172039287
Read Anemone's logs.
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post lewd pics
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>>172039287
Did you skip over the Pearl Harbor files or what?
Number 4??
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>>172039061
well there is no point in keeping your nier savefile, if you want to replay through the story you have to restart from scratch either way because there's no way to replay the first part
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>>172038708
>2B pure thicc delicious android
2B has had Nines shota cock inside her many times.
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>>172039170
>21O starts to have feelings for 9S during route C.9S and dumps Commander. Commander is now dumpee and is sad.
>9S says she's treating him like a kid
>All their conversation until the end is basically 21O wanting to act like a mother/big sis

Are you delusional or what?

21O wants to be a mother for 9S, maybe his big sister, there is no romantic feelings there.

The only romantic relationships confirmed in the game are:
-21O with commander
-2B and 9S
-A2 and A4
-The 2 dykes in the Pearl Harbor memories
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>>172036473
Yes
She is also a proper attacker model and very fun to play
And her voice is pure sex, based Ayaka Suwa
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>>172039287
A4 is from the Pearl Harbor suicide mission. She was A2's lover. She sacrificed herself to save A2 when N2(Terminal Alpha/Beta) were fucking with them. ;_;
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>>172038852
I did.

I was pretty paranoid about the whole savefile thing because I accidentally read something about the game messing with your save files.
So after the bunker was gone I freaked out and switched save slots every other save just to be sure it doesn't delete it when I game over.

But after ending E I gladly gave it up thinking "this is fine"
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most A E S T H I C weapon?
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>>172039785
The only good Four
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>>172039921
The Angel's Folly.

>>172039969
Damn right!
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>>172039921
Virtuous Treaty
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>>172038852
I gave it up. I like that when Nier games end they fucking END.
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>>172039921
Engine Blade
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>>172039921
Demon's Cry
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>>172039423
>21O with commander
>Confirmed
Where? I most likely missed it, but I only saw vague references and never once was the commander brought up.
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Is there a trick in getting iron pipe from the sewers?
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>>172039423
>The 2 dykes in the Pearl Harbor memories
You mean G16 and that resistance member?
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>>172039405
But shota cocks are pure, so 2B is still pure.
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>>172040371
Nut up and do it. You can check a video of someone finding it and fish at the same location as them if you think it'll help.
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>>172034074
I recall N:A using UE4
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>>172040407
Alright. I believe you.
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>>172040072
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>>172040230

vague references is literally the entire nier series lore
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>>172025783
>implying 9S isn't the most relatable character
He's literally an angry cuck that wants to fuck 2B, just like the fan base for the game.
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>>172040532
No, it's an in-house engine by PG otherwise they have to declare it is made from UE as per UE's terms and agreements.
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>>172040532

nope, automata uses a custom platinum engine
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Don't go dieing out on me while I'm asleep you sacks of shit
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>>172040592
Is A2 the best character for this boss fight?
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>>172040712
So mean.
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>>172040802
no because she fucking destroys them
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Does anything change if I do Emil's boss fight in Route C compared to Route A, with A2 or with 9S?
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>>172039921
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>>172038708
I want the origin of this picture posted please
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Goliath class enemy incoming and shit.

>2B: holy fug we need flying units and the entire YoRHa fighters
>9S: shieeetttt we need everyone to destroy this fucker or we're doomed

Meanwhile A2
>Goliath class? that shit can't touch me
>Proceed to kick asses
>EZPZ GG NOOB L2P
>Goodbye goliath
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>>172041125
Only if you lick my left nut.
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>>172041209
great post
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>>172041209
A2 has been fighting for 3 years non stop. She doesn't give a shit.
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is taro the kojima we need?
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>>172041345
wonder why the nude one doesn't show up with saucenao
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>>172041412
yes
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>>172041412
He peaked with Nier. Expect a steady decline.
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Is 4B also an executioner? Or just 2B
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>>172041412
Nah. They do different stuff with different methods and different goals. Comparing them is pointless and inaccurate.

>>172041545
I mean, just like Kojima peaked with Sons of Liberty, that doesn't mean what comes after that isn't interesting. And time will tell, but I think Automata is only slightly inferior to Nier, but superior to DoD3. As long as he can keep doing unique and surprising stuff, I don't really care that much about the overall quality.
>>
And so, that's it for Zero's prologue. That was a trip and a half.

Zero continues to be the best character. And no offense to Mikhail, but I kinda wish we hadn't bothered with this whole reincarnation plot point, since Michael is already enough of a doofus to fill his role anyway.

Guess I'll read that novel later. Drakengard is kind of exhausting.
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>>172039405
Monogamous dedicated waifu is pure
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two things:

there's a 7E in the opening sequence. why? apparently E isn't a classified role. who was she there to execute? 9S I guess? but 2B was always 2E so that's kind of nonsensical.

endings A and B have 9S uploaded to the machine network. Did that have any significance at all? Ending C just have them ripping apart machines right away
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Nier Automata is like one of those settings where all the adults die and the kids are left to go Lord Of The Flies.
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In a 1 vs 1 between Raiden and A2, who's the winner?

Considering both of them are the most broken characters of their games.
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>>172042183
E is a rare role, but not classified, yeah.

One was probably included in a squad in the case of rogue androids etc, not necessarily Yorha.

Having one in a squad is just fine, having one as your partner is PRETTY SKETCHY
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>>172042183
Either that part of endings A and B is non-canonical or they simply redownloaded 9S off the machine network and moved on with their lives.
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>>172042183
>expected at least one of those balls to turn around and be an Emil head
>was disappointing
>>
When did 2b get infected with the virus again?
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>>172042402
hmm. can't say I'm satisfied with that but a lot of the fun of the story was the emotional impact, not the tightly woven plot so whatever I guess
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>>172042365
You're joking right? Raiden throws around metal gear Rays and swordfights with the arm of Excelsus. Nothing anyone does in Automata even comes close.

>>172042369
>E is a rare role, but not classified, yeah.
Oh bullshit. The sidequest about the executioner unit goes into detail about the extremely extensive lengths that yorha goes to in order to conceal the existence of executioner units.
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>>172042579
It's more about the way E acts, not the existence.

Common knowledge:

>E is for killing rogue androids, probably infected by logic virus or something!

Classified:

>E is for executing rogue Yorha androids that know too much!
>>
I'm having a real hard time deciding which weapon set I want to use. All rank 4 so they are all viable, but I cant decide if I like spear + heavy sword or fist + spear or fist + heavy or light + heavy... so many choices
>>
>>172018732
>>172018732
Another running joke is that 9S can't stop falling into holes
>>
Just in case my guys and gals ITT don't already realize, you can move quickly through bushes using dash (R2) instead of stumbling. I'll come at you with more tips every hour so hold onto your hats everypony
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>>172042679
9S was surprised by and 2E pretended to be surprised by the existence of executioner droids. It's not common knowledge.
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>>172014325
What are some good weapons you would recommend? I'm like 11 hours in route A (going into the hole in city ruins now) and I'm still using the default ones, light attack one is at lvl 3 and heavy attack is at lvl 2 since I can't find any Titanium Alloys and I need 2.

Are the Beastlord swords any good? There doesn't seem to be many weapons you can get in route A. I only found 2 spears and those 3 swords I can buy from the camp.

Also is it safe to sell stuff that is labeled as "can be exchanged for currency" ?
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>>172042183
I don't remember right now but maybe there was another S type in the team? I don't think so, though. I've been wondering about that too but perhaps it's just standard procedure during operations just in case. It definitely doesn't seem like an oversight in the script, it must have a reason.

I was also surprised by how A and B are never mentioned again in the game, but maybe it was simply used as a way to "save" 9S's current memories without having to use a backup from Bunker.
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>>172042852
Well then, I know!

She doesn't actually show as E designation to other androids, the only reason we can see that she's an E is because 2B is an E as well!!

How's that? Eh? Pretty good!
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>>172042770
I'm partial to small sword + spear for that rushing strong ender, and I like spears on the offhand because their charge attacks are both fast and useful.
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>>172042950
Actually that is pretty good, yeah. I can accept that.
>>
>>172042975

yea small sword in light is a real huge draw simply for Faith
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>>172042917
So, what's the deal with Taro's damaged Emil head?
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>>172043089
I prefer Ancient Overlord since that was my favorite weapon in DoD1, and I'd rather use a shockwave to destroy all bullets around me than just heal back a bit; there's plenty of ways to heal already.
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>>172042402
9S was restored from his upload to the junk robots. He retained all his memores from the A/B routes in C/D/E. Don't ask me to explain it, it's android magic.
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>>172039921
Phoenix Spear and Sword combo
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Guys where does the game take place. I would think japan but what is a German castle doing in Japan? Also why are the cars all from the 40s
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>>172043073
Yeah! Yeah!!
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>>172036473
I just reached Route C and she's very.. sexual.
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>>172038795
the Goliath model in his memories says that aliens had only 1 purpose - destroy, nothing more.
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>>172042854
>Also is it safe to sell stuff that is labeled as "can be exchanged for currency" ?
yes, knock yourself out
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>>172043174
Taro wasn't able to show up during one presentation, so they brought his head and put it on a dummy. They then accidentally knocked the dummy over and broke it, so they had to glue it back together.
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>>172043174
Probably "it looks cool".
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>>172043185
2B probably didn't tell the commander that 9S still had his memories. She kept it a secret, so he can live longer.
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>>172042950
I'm pretty sure they call her by name when she dies though and say "7E down" or something like that.

>>172043174
It fell form a mannequin during an event and broke. The additional pieces are just for dramatic effect.
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>>172043424
Hmm, isn't that 2B reporting it, anyway?

Her operator is probably in the know, after all.
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>>172043424
Taro must've cried. He spent $500 on that Emil head. It's looks cooler now tho.
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>>172043294
>>172043424
>even the fucking hat has lore
sasuga Taro
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Someone shoop 2B and 9S onto this.
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>>172043387
Well we don't know when she was supposed to kill him in the previous scenarios. There was probably always a moment when he shared his findings with her and that was the point where she had to kill him. But the last 9S kept it from her until route C happened. Also, after him coming back from death probably broke 2B away from the cycle, considering how she saves him from the infected yorha flight suits.
>>
>>172043525
>>172043351
>yfw Nier 3 has Punished Emil with that design.
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>>172043742
Emil is confirmed dead forever. All his clones and the original are dead when you complete his quest.
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>>172042419
I guess the other androids infected her. Notice how she wants to go to a secluded area to prevent infecting other androids.
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>>172043715
Oops, there's an extra after in that last sentence.
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>>172043715
>considering how she saves him from the infected yorha flight suits
Bunker and yorha were totally defunct at that point, absolutely no reason for her to kill her only companion/let him die.
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>>172043790
I choose to believe.
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>>172043812
>pod find me a place with no androids
>immediately gets ambushed by androids when reaching objective
what did pod mean by this?
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>>172043790
The Emil heads tell a different story though.
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>>172043968
The unit data tells you the truth.
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>>172043506
I guess that could be an explanation, still a bit of a stretch I think.

>>172043790
Check his weapon story, 500 years in the future he's still alive.
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>>172043923
Probably meant a place away from good androids so she wouldn't hurt any of them.
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>>172043923
reminder that the pods were double agents for literally the whole game
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>>172043387
>2B probably didn't tell the commander
it's more like 9S didn't say anything to 2B so Commander decided not to execute him, especially since the cycle's end was near.
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>>172043902
Valid point, I'm retarded. Still, my headcanon says that him surviving the eve fight changed her. This small detail enforces my belief:
my.mixtape.moe/wocsmw.webm
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>>172043923
Well they probably hunted 2B and A2 was hunting the infected androids. Also the playable are in the game is somewhat limited!
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>>172043923
>We should keep 9S and A2 separate
>Agreed

>pod deliberately sends A2 to the tower while 9S is there
What did pod mean by this?
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>>172043968
What do they say?
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>>172044025
>500 years in the future he's still alive.
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>>172044141
Emil clones are still alive 500 years later, along with 2B and a resurging machine network.
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>>172044025
I can't tell when the game takes place, but the unit data on the Emil boss says "At the end of this pitched battle, the true Emil stopped his doppelgangers with heartfelt words before annihilating them with a final strike. He then passed away with an expression of great relief, as if he had finally met the person he'd longed to see."
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>>172044106
I mean, you're still right. Hence why she said she was glad he was alive when he appeared to her through the machines; she knew she'd made a mistake killing him and she'd been given a second chance.
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>>172044106
Do you also think the Commander was tired as well from all this shit? I mean she lets 9S decide what to do with all that information he isn't supposed to have.
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>>172044314
The intel is confusing Shop Emil with True Emil. Shop Emil said he was a copy and True Emil vanished a long time ago.
>>
How did you react when you find out Jackass wrote the report?
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>>172044550
You're just going to take the word of an amnesiac? He forgot everything, even that he was the original. It was only at the end of his life that he remembered everything.
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>>172044593
Annoyed because I don't like Taro's tendency towards the George Lucas-style integration of throwaway comedy characters as being of pivotal plot significance.
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>>172044252
its time travel man, it aint gonna explain shit
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will there ever be a new nier or is this the end? The Human Genome is still on the moon and the earth is now safe after all...
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>>172044252
(For those who don't get the reference, they're the artfiicial god creatures from the Elder Scrolls loreverse. Akulakhan, an Imperfect, the the Numidium. Numidium was created by the Dwemer to be their vessel to divine immortality, but they sort of fucked up one of the intonations and ended up being psychicly fused as a race into the core of the ultimate WMD. Tiber Septim unleashed Numidium on the elves, and it, to this day, continues to annihilate them in parallel dimensions where it was banished. The High Elves of the Summerset Isles, to this day, have to keep mages maging constantly to veil themselves from this gigantic dimension-raping fuckbot that is set to keep going for the forseeable future until it very likely eventually breaks through.)
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>>172044530
see >>172044090
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>>172044789
i'm pretty sure no one really expected a sequel in the first place since nier closed the book on its story enough. but we got a sequel. theres enough there for them to build off and make a 3rd, but while i'm sure SE is seeing money signs it kinda depends on if the madman himself actually wants to make a 3rd
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>>172044839
"Kill all the elves."
"Killing ALL the elves."
"OH FU-"
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>>172044789
no game in the whole meta series is a direct sequel outside of drakengard 2, which is collectively hated and shat on by the whole fanbase.
There's probably going to be more nier or drakengard games in the future but they'll probably have a completely different setting and tone just like every other game
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>>172044789
>>172045004
The real answer is "Taro can asspull the plot indefinitely for as long as his enthusiasm and funding remains".
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>>172044640
>You're just going to take the word of an amnesiac
Over the word of Pods making assumptions? Yes.

>>172044765
Fucking Accord, no respect for the time stream.

... Now i'm picturing Emil going with Accord on time travel adventure. I want this so much.
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>>172044789
just look at DS3
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>>172045089
>"Taro can asspull the plot indefinitely for as long as his enthusiasm and funding remains".

And booze. Can't forget the booze.
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>>172044990
But there's no cycle and the Commander didn't knew about YoRHa being a ticking bomb.
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ACCORD WILL BE CREATED BY 9S USING TOOBIES AND HIS DATA! CALLING IT NOW.
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>>172044530
>>172045310
No, I think she just swallowed the whole thing. It was 2B who did the actual killings at it was her it affected the most.
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>>172045310
the cycle was made by whoever the fuck made yorha

commander had a slight clue of what was wrong but she didnt knew it was this bad. likely 9s was allowed to keep weapons because she wanted him to serve as a scapegoat in case it being irrelevant
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>>172045416
No. What? No.
Remember that DoD3 is a prequal to DoD1, which leads into Nier.
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>>172045690
Remember that Accord is capable of both time travel and dimension hopping. She could be from fucking anywhere.
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>the cycle
Are people seriously under the impression that the plot of this game is a reflection of some infinitely repetitious cycle? I don't remember anything indicating that yorha organizations rose and fell in pre-planned perpetuity before the events of the game.
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So what's the difference between hard and very hard if you get one shot by most enemies in either difficulty?
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>>172045690
Time travel, anon.
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>tfw you won't face Father Servo ever again
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>>172045514
I don't get why people are calling it a cycle.
After this iteration of yorha is sacrificed, there won't be any more proof of the lie about humanity. It's one single operation, there wouldn't be any reason to repeat it over and over
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>>172045862
Hard oscillates between needing to heal after every hit and being one-shot, whereas very hard is always one-shot.

Yes, the difficulty curve in this game is completely fucked and could've been executed much, much better.
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>>172045690
The girl with the robot mask in the Resistance Camp mentions Accord, she's clearly time-traveling.
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>>172045690
Accord comes from the cathedral city, which is a modern day city that one day shows up in the world of drakengard during the calamity.
She's literally from the future, she's also dressed like Adam.
Also dod3 doesen't lead into dod1, I don't know who put this forward and why it's getting parroted so much, the real prequel to dod1 is the dod3 novelization
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>>172045923
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>>172045923
The conspiracy of the lie of humanity's remnants wasn't enough so fans have to confabulate something even more grandiose, I guess.

Or people feel like literally everything in the DrakeNier universe must be completely devoid of meaning and thus the plot needs to be a completely futile loop with no forseeable end.

Or they played Dark Souls 2 and they want that plot again.
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Can you still buy from Emil after you beat him the first time?
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>>172045880
King Crimson?
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>>172038852
I'll give mine up.

after making a backup in my documents

And then I'll give those up again

and again

and again
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>>172014714
WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE ROBOTS SO CRAZY.
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>>172045923
a new yorha is made with better androids.

its how they remake the war cycle. yorha is the evolution of the androids and the machines are given artifical victories to keep them fighting as well

less that 400 years from ending E, a new yorha with new androids would be made and they are gonna keep blind to the truth while fighting for mankind/androidkind
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>>172046143
>>172046225
yeah I guess the matrix and dark souls are popular things, but I don't think the concept of a never ending cycle is especially deep or interesting and I don't get the need to push it everywhere
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>>172046274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9dEI-Ru1CI
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>>172046396
so I guess world war 2 was also a never ending cycle because they kept drafting new soldiers?
Basing new models on the old ones battle data isn't exactly a "cycle"
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>>172046504
Blame Nietzsche.
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>>172046274
sauce on image.
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i want to fuck Angelus
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>>172035525
Keep playing.

Decadus = Octa > Cent > Shiiiiiiit > Dito
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>>172046504
I don't get the need for media to turn to bittersweetness instead of just giving people the potential of a happy ending. But most of them do.
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>>172035525
Two wants Cent to live no matter what tho
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>>172046870
Gunsmith Cats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXE4wO-Qt48
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Do any weapons or costume items increase drop rate? I'm farming in the orgy pit with 90% drop rate but I'm wondering if there's anything that can give me furthr
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>>172046948
“There is a line somewhere in Wozzeck that translates out to, roughly, 'The world is awful.' Yes, I said to myself as I shot across the Bay Bridge not giving a fuck how fast I drove, that sums it up. That is high art: 'The world is awful.' That says it all. This is what we pay composers and painters and the great writers to do: tell us this; from figuring this out, they earn a living. What a masterful, incisive insight. What penetrating intelligence. A rat in a drain ditch could tell you the same thing, were it able to talk. If rats could talk, I'd do anything they said.”
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>>172046225
>>172045923
>>172045310
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>>172046870
Gunsmith Cats.
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Finally, a patrician among machines.
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>>172047061
90% is the peak anyway, if you increased it further it wouldn't make a difference. Just like you can't go past 20% movement speed.
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>>172047135
>Juliet 3 is not his machinefu

PISSETH OFF
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>>172046948
what does this have to do with anything?
The idea that nier automata is a neverending repeating cycle is being pushed by the fanbase, it's nowhere in the game. The androids are actively trying to win the war and the destruction of yorha is part of their plan to motivate the troups, since yohras are expendable suicide troops anyway built from machine cores.
>>172047102
yeah and there's one bunker that blows up once, how is that a cycle?
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>>172047135
He just doesn't get it.
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>>172036643
BREASTS TOO BIG REEEE
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>>172047135
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>>172046104
Pretty sure people just got tired of explaining the timeline perfectly every time and started to short hand it to simply "DoD3 > DoD1"

Which isn't inaccurate it's just lacking nueance that it's the DoD3 novelisation.
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>>172046687
thats exactly what it is. before the red eye virus from the machine the androids were winning but they couldnt simply claim victory because that would idle them to death

so they postpone the war indefinitively
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>>172047135
but it makes sense. It is about monogamy and models.
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>>172044530
>>172044990
>>172045310
>Do you also think the Commander was tired as well from all this shit? I mean she lets 9S decide what to do with all that information he isn't supposed to have.

I think Nines was killed when he discovered about the purpose of YoRha, not about humanity's extinction.
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>>172047249
>yeah and there's one bunker that blows up once, how is that a cycle?
Yeah, but who created the bunker and Yorha?
I bet those are alive and safe, and they going to produce the NEXT GENERATION using the transferred data.
Bunker was designed to be captured/destroyed at some point by SOMEONE.
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>>172038852
I did.

I hope I helped someone.
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>no romance triangle where 9S is into his 2B but another 2B model gets her panties wet for him
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>>172014325
Guys i have a beyond bad laptop how hard is nier to run, i could run MGR pretty well.
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>>172046563
Pretty much.
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>>172037745
mfw you'll upload your 100% savegame for everyone to enjoy
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>>172047754
If only there were some sort of list of "lowest specifications" that a computer might need right in order to run this software...

Alas.
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>>172047754
better save for a ps4
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>>172047324
honestly I never watched any of the "lore" videos but I'm sure someone on jewtube must be pushing some myths about the drakengard "canon" because recently a lot of people have been parroting stuff that only exists within rekka's mind
I miss the times when we had 10 different people translating shit instead of 1 that doesen't really care and isn't any good
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Is the 2B breakdown even possible on very hard?
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>>172046104
same shit
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>>172047871
not him but I can do it if you want, I have both a complete 100% save and a save that has everything 100%d except for sidequests and sidequest related content
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How do I get Project Gestalt 8?
I read that it's exactly here, but there's sort of rocky platform I can't seem to be able to get on. At the base there's nothing. Where is the damn chest?
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Are there more Bunkers?
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>>172046104
>Also dod3 doesen't lead into dod1
DoD 3 > DoD 1 doesn't mean that 3 leads into 1, it means that 3 happens before 1.
No shit, DoD 1 doesn't directly lead into Nier and Nier doesn't directly lead into Automata either. It's for chronological reasons.
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>>172047575
The whole point of the game is that both the aliens that made the robots and the humans that made the androids are dead. The robots and androids are evolving on their own.

If anything I wonder if perhaps the pods are the true beings of this game because they remember each cycle and some of their dialog shows they are slowly evolving consciousness.
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>>172047971
Drakengard had only meme translations since the beginning. So it doesn't matter.
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>>172048138
actually they do, Nier picks up after ending E of dod1 and Automata picks up after ending E of nier (which is novel only but takes place after ending D of the actual game, it's not a different timeline)
meanwhile there's no actual connection from dod3 to dod1 outside of the novel, none of the dod3 endings lead into 1
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>>172048113
Nah, I hit 100% on everything myself, I'm on the verge of starting all over. I hope we get some expansions/dlc.
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Can someone post that screenshot showing the Commander doesn't wear panties? Having an argument
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDeYhYqLihw

So The final fight with Adam in A was pretty fun. I didn't notice it till after rewatching it though that I took what he did to S9 rather personally and changed my approach attacking him and became really aggressive.

I know I did this with Ace Combat 5 when Chopper was shot down years ago.

I also know I'm not very good.
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>>172048126
It's at the location of the player icon, not where the camera is centered. it's next to a rock guarded by 2 Medium Flyers.
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how long do you guys think it will take for a price drop for automata on pc?
i completed it on ps4 already and kinda feel like starting a new playthrough on pc but i cant just pay 50 yuropoors for a game i already own
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>>172048296
Locked doors with the apologetic machines are most likely dlc path placeholders.
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>>172048417
she does. wait up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXIQxT1oML4
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>>172047882
>implying this is ever a way to judge
The requirements are usually blown way out of proportion or are way bellow what it requires
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Why are there so many bodies in the machine village?
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Can you still purchase items from Emil after beating him for the first time?
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>>172048492
Thanks man, I spent half an hour trying to get on the rock like an idiot
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>>172048614
Don't worry about it buddy
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>>172046880
Dragons are not for lewd!
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>>172026310
I don't know about S models, but the prototype of scanner androids were female №21
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>>172048417
She's wearing a leotard just like toods, but apparently it's stuck in between her labia. ahowing the sides of it.
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>>172048614
it's just garbage, sell it for profit
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Give me a reason to bother with any weapon except the ones you get from the start?
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>>172048195
Eh, i don't think that Pods are responsible for Project Yorha.
Everything about that project is fishy, i feel like i'm talking about DaS lore again, where developer didn't think that through and i have to try to explain everything by myself.
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>>172049140
They have different moves unlockable by Lvl4 upgrade
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>>172048295
It doesn't pick up after ending E of NieR.
In Automatas timeline, ending E of NieR never happened. Kainé never reunited with the young Nier. That's why her shack is built around a field of flowers that grant dreams. She -really- wanted to remember what she had forgotten that day, but she couldn't, no matter how man Lunar Tears she had.
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Time to go fishing I guess. Is there a complete list of the Archives/Novels and ideally where to get them? Also, what's with the non-100% tutorials?
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>>172048436
now that i think about it how did Adam capture 9S after he launched the missile?
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>>172049140
stats, aesthetic
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>>172048725
they are for my dick
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>>172049140
More variety, I guess. Rusty pipe a best.
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The Adam and Eve fight is fucking impossible on hard holy FUCK.
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>>172048614
I think they died during the "logic virus" outbreak.

In honor of Pascal.
https://soundcloud.com/kcirrr/51-nier-automata-ost-mourning?in=soobag/sets/nier-automata
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>>172049426
>not stick
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Good chapters for running around doin shit without triggering dumb endings?

Looks like for 9S/2B it's chapter 07-01 and just dont go talk to Pascal, and for A2 it looks like you HAVE to do 14-01 A2 and the OIl Filter and just dont go to the resistance camp. Anything else and you are stuck in places that if you leave early you get an ending
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>>172049270
I figured he snagged him after the blowout, after all adam did have an interest in both 2B and 9S. And it was 8 hours until 2B woke up.
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>>172014325
How long until people can mod and access to console commands?

I hope its possible, this game needs that to feel more sandbox like.
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>>172049352
What does a dragon need a detective for?
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>>172049665
for human cummies
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Someone post Adam stealing 9Ses first kiss and making him wear a dress.
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>>172049738
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>>172049738
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>>172049226
Emil remembers Nier therefore he came back, his whole existance got erased during ending D.
Not to mention that in the fight against the aliens, in the drama cd, he also mentions Nier.
The ending E side story also connects to 80 days around the world which is the story about Emil's return to civilization, by showing him with a completely different body when he returns.
But you're free to believe what you want of course
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>>172049738
>>172049930
>>172049976
Finale
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>>172045880
https://my.mixtape.moe/yykwks.webm
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>>172050106
But Emil doesn't have a body in Automata, and I don't see how he remembers Nier when he explicitly only ever mentions Kainé in dialogue.
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>>172049459
>that track
>right in the feels
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What does it even do?
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Who else agrees seeing Pascal break from seeing the dead robot children is the most feels part of this game?
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>>172050253
he says "my friend" a couple of times, Nier doesen't really have a canonical name since you could pick him yourself in the original.
Also his body was obviously lost during the war, it has been almost 7000 years, I'm just saying that 80 days establishes that Emil can rebuild a body with the stuff he finds around (an ability he displays in automata by turning into a piaggio ape car) and also in the Ending E side story.
I mean I don't see any indication whatsoever that it isn't canon, your comment about the flowers could really mean everything, Emil could have planted those back when he had hands, almost 7000 years went by. But again, if you don't like that specific story you can believe whatever, it is included in the 10th anniversary timeline but people have ignored that since day one so it doesen't really matter
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>>172050713
Bonus damage while you're glowing red. It's like a super brief let-er-rip mode.
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really makes you think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMggr8DTbWs
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>>172050736
Tobie... TOOBIE! Dont worry!

Nothing beats that.
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I need to buy crafting mats from Emil when he is near resistance camp but I can't fucking get him to spawn over there. Anyone got a sure fire way to get him over there?
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What's the song that starts playing at the beginning of the first Anemone novels? I need the version of it that has vocals.
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>>172051312
I think it's just random so he might spawn anywhere, and if youre unlucky he'll keep spawning in wrong places.
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Any particular weapon good to level up in DoD1? Caim's sword doesn't seem to be that good at higher levels.
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>2B's only job is to keep killing 9s
>9S can kill a whole room full of 2B's alone

Does it mean he just kept letting it happen every time, like never fighting back against her?
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>>172051408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKOM3lNFajE
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>>172051762
Moonfire if you have that, I haven't played it in years though
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>>172051820
No, It's because 2B is actually 11E.
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>>172051849
Thanks.
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>>172051762
Get the big Guts-tier sword. You can spam it super-fast if you use the jump-attack to pseudo-animation cancel.
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>>172051864
Sorry, I should have precised early game weapons. Moonfire seems to be found in Chapter 8.
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>>172051892
You think she kept stabbibg him in the back?

Or was he just accepting his death at her hands?
I'm really inclined to thing he was aware of her actual purpose/
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>>172052201
he likely always knew thanks to the memories on the blade, including how awkward it was for her to do this
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>>172047575
Them producing the next gen of androids based on data is mentioned in Yorha Disposal too.
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>>172051820
He's definitely thought back on occasion as seen in the novella, it's also said that in a straight fight she should trounce him but here she only pulls through by infecting him with the logic virus. I figure that even through all the rests he's still becoming stronger over time which eventually led to him surpassing her head on, there's also pic related which goes fairly well with your thoughts.

http://nier2.com/blog/2017/03/07/nierautomata-world-guide-novellas/

Shit thinking about it, it could be that even when he fights back it's just a bluff and he lets her barely win each time. Like in the example of the novella he could be aware of the virus and so deliberately got infected.
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>>172052629
>we will never get proper translations ever again since rekka chased out the whole translation community, so we can only get her unfinished summaries in broken english with her thoughts and headcanon injected into them
fuck everything and everyone
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>>172052889
Wait what?
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>>172052629
9S confirmed mary sue of the taroverse.
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>>172052889
>>we will never get proper translations ever again since rekka chased out the whole translation community, so we can only get her unfinished summaries in broken english with her thoughts and headcanon injected into them
>fuck everything and everyone

Who? What?
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>>172052534
just reread that yorha disposal that you mentioned.
Didn't find anything about next generation.
But apparently, even Commander didn't know that bunker is supposed to be destroyed by machines.
Seems like there are still someone behind all of this, but we will probably never know who.
>>
I can't figure out how to end the Wise Machine sidequest. I get to what I think is the end, drop down and pick up my item and... that's it. There's no continuation.
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if you take gg out of nigger, it spells nier
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>>172053485
It's ended.
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>jukebox actually has all the variations of all the songs
nice
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>>172052534
>The backdoor of the Bunker has been set to open once the time approaches to switch to new models when enough combat data has been collected.
From YoRHa disposal.

>>172052629
9S is the state in the art android. Anons calling him the equivalent of Adam and Eve in past isn't a lie.

During the story 9S has had plenty of time to get better at fighting, compared to the first time he revealed he hacked himself
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>>172052042
>pseudo-animation cancel
>pseudo
>implying any of the cancels in this game were included by any means other than intentional
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>>172053575
But every time I go back to a chapter with it I see the Wise Machine again. Does it repeat infinitely?
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>>172053189
>>172053360
When drakengard 3 dropped, this one girl pretty much hijacked the western community for drakengard by spamming her shit everywhere, posing as a yoko taro spokesperson (by telling people to give her questions so she could give them to taro instead of asking him themselves, when all she did was ask on facebook like everyone else, but somehow she felt she was more important) and starting translations on side materials before anyone else did, this led to all the translators moving away from the community because apparently she was taking care of everything, too bad she never finished any of her projects and they stand untranslated to this day. Even the ones she did work on are "summaries" where she constantly injects her personal thoughts and "theories" into every line and weaving her fanfiction into the actual canon
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>>172053461
See >>172053632

For my fuckup.
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>>172053698
>implying DoD1 had any thought put into the gameplay
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>>172053587
>even the game calls the chiptune versions "8-bit"
Are they actually 8-bit or is it simply for the benefit of braindead normies?
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>>172053762
There's 3 wise machines. You hack all 3 of them, then the third one jumps down, you pick up its item, and thats it.
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>>172053826
Wew did I pull an illiterate on that one.

You're 100% right, my bad.
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>>172053842
That's exactly what I've done several times now.
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>>172053797
somehow i missed that part about new generation, you are right
that's my fuckup
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>>172053780
Does she raise holy hell if anyone else tries to start translating stuff?
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>>172053461
Speaks of the next generation right here.
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>>172053961
No offense taken, anon.
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So who creates the next generation of YoRHa androids?
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>>172054064
>>172053986
i actually this guy too >>172047575
so i kinda argued with myself
my bad, too tired
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>>172054187
Same android Jews who created the previous batch
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>>172054187
The "next generation" it's referring to is the S series. It's not referring to an entirely new iteration of the yorha organization.
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>>172054007
not directly but when someone asks if she's ever going to finish them or if it should be handled by someone else she always swears that she's definetly going to work on it, this has been going on for years with drakengard 1.3 mind you.
I think the worst part is how she passed herself off as some sort of official spokesperson by saying "you should give me your questions for yoko taro so I will ask him, otherwise you'll just bother him" when she had no official connection whatsoever and just posted on his facebook wall.
Also she started translating the mangas instead of enetirnel which was actually cleaning up her scans and translating in a comprehensible english, which led enetirnel to drop the project and all we got are the absolutely garbage looking scans with giant watermarks and terrible translation, and those are the good ones because one time she posted thumbnails instead of images and that's how they are to this day
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>>172054064

I dont see why people still dont understand this. It's not complicated.

The original plan was that the machines would cycle and a new set of androids reborn with the replaced knowledge. However in Automata, Commander decided AGAINST doing that and destroyed the bunker, ending the cycle for good.
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>>172054187
Presumably whatever government has formed within the Android resistance. They clearly have the capacity to build spacestations and aircraft carriers.

So while it is a resistance... Somewhere on earth there must be an android society.
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>>172054408
If nobody else has stepped up then it's as much their fault as hers.
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>>172054414
that is really not what happened, the destruction of the bunker was planned from the start to dispose of any proof that humanity was dead
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How the hell do you farm memory alloys ? I tried the desert pit and I don't seem to get the drop, I tried the castle door too but it doesn't seem to work either (maybe I should try harder for that spot).

Does anyone with 100% weapons know how to farm that shit ?
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>>172054408
I thought another scanlation group did Utahime Five and Shi Ni Whatsits. But that sucks since I really want to read Drakengard 1.3
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>>172054334
Pretty sure you pulled that out your arse, well done.
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Hang in there Anon you can do it!
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>>172054334
It does though.

Then the time comes it's a full scale harvest and then they make new better A's new operators, new commander new S's and a new Bunker too.
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>>172054602
just buy them from emil
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>>172054732
How can you beat the game without an Internet connection?
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>>172054548
what's your motivation when the fanbase only listens to one person?
Kho Dazat made a full translation for fire of prometheus years ago and nobody gave a shit because rekka was spamming her own incomplete translation in every outlet available, I had to look it up on the wayback machine because nobody gave enough of a shit to even archive it and he only reposted it recently
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>>172054683
100% sure everyone who thinks there's a "cycle" has pulled it out of their arse.

>>172054735
Oh yeah I remember when the game said this. It was:
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>>172054743
Tried, when he sells materials he doesn't sell memory alloy. Or maybe he has a second "material shop" that can trigger ?
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>>172054550

Did you skip over a lot of the readables then? Because the back door was not at all to do with exploding the place
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>>172054414
Commander was a disposal unit too
I finally realized why she didn't order to kill 9S when he find out about that whole Yorha thing.
She didn't suppose to know that too.
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>172054819
That's shitty and I can relate but ultimately attention whores gonna whore.
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>>172054602
Got a shitload of them playing through the forest castle with an item drop chip
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>>172054879
he has 2 material shops, a garbage one and rare materials
if he is in front of the resistance camp its the rare materials shop
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>>172054334
No it means the next gen of models on the because the backdoor opens to destroy YoRHa.

We never said the next gen models are YoRHa, but they already did this with A2.

9S never receives such data either. Nor 4S.
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>mfw ending C, D, and E

Jesus I wasn't expecting that, especially the whole ending in the tower part
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>>172054879
He has 3 different inventories. He sells more common things when he's circling around the crater, and more rare things when he's circling around the resistance camp. He also sells some weapons you'll want to buy.

In order to get him to change locations, go to any chapter, talk to him, then buy/sell something. Then warp back to the resistance camp and he should be in a different location. Go to his new location, buy/sell something, then warp back again. He should now be outside the resistance camp and you can buy his weapons/rare mats.
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>>172054548
Translators are a weird bunch. A lot of them do it for e-peen, so they don't like "muscling in" on others work. Or they don't want to waste time and effort on something someone else is already doing.
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>>172055006

not always. Sometimes he just sells chips at +6 but still not his materials or weapon shop
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>>172054907
oh, no I just assumed you were referring to the backdoor. What does blowing up the bunker change though? The thing that actually ruined their plan was the machine network hacking into the android database and cataloguing their plan, and Jackass finding it in the wreckage. Otherwise they would have just built another yorha unit with the lie about humanity intact and safe
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>>172054334
I don't see anything to suggest that, the S models are just a subset of the current YoRHa types, just like Bs and Es. On top of that the E credits tell you that all current YoRHa personnel are dead, which would obviously include the S types. It's 33 seconds in.

https://youtu.be/6ReSKu1TblQ
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>>172054875
>Oh yeah I remember when the game said this. It was:
Well for starters you can consider such facts as
- ALL YorHa androids went nuts and started killing each other
- Even the commander
- The Bunker blew itself up
And the pods dialogue
>all Yorha confirmed dead
>it's time to delete their data and start from a scratch according to protocol
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>>172055089
Okay, I already got all his weapons (I only need to get the Iron Pipe from the Sewers and the Emil Heads) but I didn't really know how that shit worked. Thanks, this should be less tedious than what I've been trying up until now since Im swimming in money.
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>>172055152

Blowing it up means no more androids. Bunker is where androids are built. The machines would have built a new set of androids with the old data and the cycle began anew, but the Commander decided it was better for them to make their own future after seeing what 9S/2B were capable of, and all the shit that went down on earth.

So she said fuck it, detonated it. She knew that the only real hope the androids had for a future was to let them have their own fate/future and not be driven by the machines machinations
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>>172054907
do you know what disposal means?
document literally says
>The Bunker will be disposed of by having it be deliberately attacked by machines
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>>172054875
I don't think there is a cycle... People are reading too much into that single line of text. The YoRHa prototypes were the first generation. (A2, A4, ect..)

2B and 9S were made from the data of the prototype drop with the intention of giving the illusion that there was an elite space force fighting for the humans on the moon. So when YoRHa is destroyed to hide the evidence this generation has been gathering a sufficent amount of data so as not to waste the experience and pass it on to the next generation of combat androids.

TL;DR: The point of YoRHa is to decieve the android population into thinking the moon houses several thousand humans. The recycling of combat data is just a perk of the system they setup.

It woud only be a cycle if it keeps reoccuring exactly the same way. And there is zero evidence to support that theory.

This being said... The S model being the "next generation" is also you being full of shit.
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>>172055169
>I don't see anything to suggest that
You don't see anything to suggest that the S series, the series so advanced that its discovering the truth of humanity's fate is not only anticipated but regarded as an inevitability, constitutes a new generation of androids? The S series, with its new designation indicating that it is a new generation of android? Nothing to suggest it?
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>>172055015
>9S never receives such data either. Nor 4S.

9S didnt get hit by EMP hacking attack.
All other S models are probably dead.

The pods are talking about ALL Yorha units being confirmed dead. And they say it goes according to protocol.
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>pods say after ending E that they can restore 2B and 9S with their memories intact, but that the story might repeat itself.
And why would that happen again? There's no Bunker anymore, the two know the truth, why would anything dramatic happen after that?
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>>172055329
>Bunker is where androids are built
>The machines would have built a new set of androids with the old data and the cycle began anew
>but the Commander decided it was better for them to make their own future
Are you 15 years old or something?

That's your primitive fantasies without any proofs, stop it.
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>>172055329
Where do you get that the bunker is the only way to build yohras? The first batch, the one that A2 was a part of, wasn't built in the bunker at all, there was no bunker back then
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>>172016042
Yes.
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>>172055276
You're citing evidence that there was a single plan to destroy yorha once as evidence of a cycle that repeats ad infinitum.
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>>172055519
makes you wonder why 4s and the 2 drugged androids die offscreen
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>>172055329
>the Commander decided it was better for them to make their own future after seeing what 9S/2B were capable of, and all the shit that went down on earth.
>So she said fuck it, detonated it. She knew that the only real hope the androids had for a future was to let them have their own fate/future and not be driven by the machines machinations
Did we play the same fucking game?
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>>172054817
Like this guy did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Hz6m2BDsg
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>>172055596
>>172055561

Whatever. I think we can all agree to disagree and that htere are multiple interpretations on what the story means.
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>>172055485
The S do into the grinder for the sake of a new S generation.
The A's and all other go as well.

2A was a prototype for 2B(2E) because she was a sole survivor of the previous harvest cycle.

It's not like the next bunker will be exclusively S models.
They will make ned better B's D's E's, a better Commander and everyone.
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>>172055828
"Multiple interpretations"

That's dark souls lore for "you are full of shit with nothing to back your theories up".
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>>172055825
I've been waiting for this.
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>>172055485
No I don't, not when the game tells you that the current generation will be purged with the virus/destruction of the bunker and their data will be handed over to the next generation. We know that the S models are among those destroyed in this purge so I just don't see them as somehow also being the yet to be created next generation.
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>>172055685
Chased down by the crazed zombie Yorha
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So besides the Jackass sidequest revealing 2B is too smart for a B-class android and the E-class android sidequest, are there any other important side quests that make more sense in the C&D path?
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>>172055828
yeah you can believe whatever you want, but there's info within the actual game that contradicts what you say since A2 exists from before the bunker
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>>172055329
Androids were being built on earth too. The council overseeing Project Gestaltt removed Twin Models from production lines and the bases didn't exist till after aliens arrived.

Resources became harder to get following the machines, but they still have shit like Carriers and Anemone travelled from Hawaii to Japan in less than three years
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>>172055825
>2 fucking hours of that shit
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>>172055828
You are just objectively wrong. A large amount of androids aren't even directly connected to YorHa or the bunker what so ever. The resistance co-operates with YorHa and the bunker, they are not part of YorHa nor do they have access to the bunker.
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>>172055825
oh look, he only spent 2 hours trying
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>>172056037
>contradicts what you say since A2 exists from before the bunker
She exists from the previous bunker though.
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>>172056084
Trivial for a career shmupper, which I assume that guy is.
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>>172055472
Androids descending from space had been done awhile.

Anemone's team 200 years ago descended and were abandoned.
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>tfw the end of pascal's character arc

He was too pure for this world
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>>172056149
there was no previous bunker, why does every game have to be dark souls? There is one bunker that gets destroyed and that's the plan, not everything has to be part of an unending cycle.
The war would have been over millennia ago if not for the fact that the machines had an investment in keeping it going for as long as possible, otherwise they would have eradicated the androids by now
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>even shitty /v/ is full of Nier threads
may be we will get DLC
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>>172056316
>Delete his memory
>talk to him back at the village
It's sad. I don't know what happens if you leave him without doing anything when he asks you to kill or hack him though. I sort of assume he joins the children, but I didn't try yet.
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>>172055472
Not him but if they want to maintain the façade as they should accordingly to the YoRHa plan, then they HAVE to create a new generation of combat androids that they'll later also dispose of. For the YoRHa plan to work it has to be a cycle, if they ever stop then the lie will eventually crumble as well.

They might not always dispose of them in the same way (A prototypes were set against overwhelming odds, B/S/H/E/etc. gen had the backdoor) but they still create/destroy/create, that's a cycle for me.
I do agree that thinking that the S models being a new generation is stupid though. Especially when texts explecitly state how they decided to create different models for the second generation (at least B and E).
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>>172056440
I think it just forces you to go back
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How does the antigrav system for the melee weapons and Pods work, and why aren't they using it for the flight units instead of regular thrusters?
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>>172056440
>>172056316
>i had to replay that part 4 times because game always freezes in the Factory
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>>172055825
>no unique dialogue for beating it solo

Shitty world, shitty game!
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>>172055472
>S model is the new series of android and is directly seen to upset the one-sided flow of information that maintains the equilibrium of the yorha's deception
>backdoor gets exploited shortly after it's unveiled
>text refers to backdoor being exploited in tandem with new generation of android
lel surely this must all be coincidence
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Has anyone made a nice video yet to explain all of the lore? Even the arguing going on in this thread has me confused and I've read as much as I've found and gotten and E ending. Would like to find a nice succinct package that explains it all for me including the little side pieces
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>>172056368
if the people in the "wheres the crack" threads buy the game
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>>172056326
The Council of humanity mentions multiple bases, and something in space explodes as they escape the infected Bunker.

Hell even the Commanders war plan shows the three bases on C.

Anemone's unit was also dropped from 200 years ago.
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>>172056639
>nice video yet to explain all of the lore
>>172056647
well, we got like 200k sales already according to steamspy. Now they need to patch the port.
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>>172023792
FAT
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>>172056639
most lore videos are based on rekka's headcanon, you should just look up the archive in the op and read everything for yourself if you want
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>>172056639
I'm sure there are vaatividya-tier regurgitations of precisely the level of speculation that's appeared in this thread.

Why would someone making a video about it make their opinion more valid?
>>
>he needed to call for help before Square enix showed up
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>>172056310

It's hilarious to me how hard you people cling to shitty unfounded ideas.

That's you meaninglessy assuming the "drop" in Anemone's text log implied space drop instead of air drop.

You realise you can be air dropped via planes too, we've been doing it for nearly 100 years now infact. So unless you have some evidence that she was dropped from space from a bunker or bunker like predescessor, I suggest you rethink your bullshit.

And even if Anemone dropped from space this still doesn't in any way prove a cycle relating to the YoRHa droids... Of which A2 is literally the first generation. The YoRHa droids specifically use black boxes which makes them unique from AI possessing androids.

It simply amazes me how hard people will desperately cling to dumb fucking ideas.
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>>172056868
There are people who had trouble with the soul box.

Think about that.
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>>172056819

> look up the archive in the op

>>[NieR:Automata Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia] - Untranslated, use Chrome

> untranslated

I don't speak nip
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>>172056639
archive fag here, I was thinking of making some lore videos that sum up the more obscure points and concepts without injecting humor or fanfiction into it, but english is not my first language so I would need someone to dub them.
Also most people wouldn't like them since I wouldn't put sad music, memes or game theory tier bullshit into them, so I don't know if it would be worth the effort
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>>172057036
ching chong swordfish kokoro genki
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>>172051892
>11E.
where was this said? I know the E-type part but the number
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>>172057036
not that one, the mega archive in the op has all the translated side stories, mangas and shit
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>>172056326
>there was no previous bunker, why does every game have to be dark souls?

Nobody would ever know if the previous Bunker blew up and they set up a new one.
You cant see what's going on in space.
For the Resistance androids it all looked like the YorHa just horribly lost a battle, just like back then when A2 was sent to a suicide attack mission and survived.

BY THE WAY

At the end of C route you receive a new message from the council of humanity EXACTLY LIKE THE FIRST ONE.
Which implies that the new Yorha cycle has already started.

Remember that "Yorha betrayers quest?"
They keep mumbling about "you dont know anything, the command betrayed us"
They could be the survivors from the previous cycle as well. Hard to imagine them figuring it out any other way.
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>>172028159
What does this say
>>
>>172056519
>They might not always dispose of them in the same way (A prototypes were set against overwhelming odds, B/S/H/E/etc. gen had the backdoor) but they still create/destroy/create, that's a cycle for me.

Two data points a trend does not establish.
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>>172057405
>I love this game, buuut I hate platinum games
>>
>>172057376
>At the end of C route you receive a new message from the council of humanity

This, I thought this was strange but couldn't think of why.

Who the fuck is behind Yorha? Such a huge fucking mystery.
>>
>>172057376
This is some crayyyzeee reaching. The androids in the betrayers quest were of the same series as 2B.
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>>172057446
Ohhhh snap.
>>
best place to farm rusty bolts? last thing i need to get all weapons to lv4
>>
Are there any other notably strong enemies aside from Emil?
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>>172057551
>Who the fuck is behind Yorha? Such a huge fucking mystery.
The rest of the android race.

They can have a massive city on the moon, without humans but with Androids, why the fuck not? They dont even need air or food the moon should be OK for them.

And there are still normal Androids on Earth, they have aircraft carriers and launch rockets to space. They have infrastructure and production power.
They can keep making new bunkers and shit.
>>
nu thred

>>172057756
>>172057756
>>172057756
>>172057756
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>>172057551
>Who the fuck is behind Yorha? Such a huge fucking mystery.

There's really only two options.

Either it's the machines to give themselves an enemy to fight.

Or it's the android government.

My money is on the latter frankly.
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>>172057806
It's all the watchers.
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>>172057592
>This is some crayyyzeee reaching. The androids in the betrayers quest were of the same series as 2B.
They were equipped in heavy assault armor with helmets off.
And they knew they are betrayed.

How else would they know?
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>>172057806
>Either it's the machines to give themselves an enemy to fight.
not even an option
it's androids
I guess Taro didn't have a budget to stretch the story this far.
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>>172058068
>not even an option
>even though the machines are literally demonstrated as doing this throughout the course of the story
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>>172056562
Magic. They probably don't use it for flight units because they are still not too confident about mixing technology and magic to much (see Type-40 weapon stories).
That said pods probably use a shit ton of magic as well, so there's that.

>>172057446
It's not just based on the first two generations. But also on he fact that YoRHa is a plan made to keep the moral up for the war against the machines.
They never talk about ending the YoRHa project in the archives, in fact for the YoRHa project to work effectively they pretty much need to keep it going as long as the war go on.

The VERY NATURE of the project mean that it has to be cyclic in order to work. If they don't destroy the current generation of androids, then they'll figure out the truth and the project will invariably fail. If they don't reuse the data from the previous generation then they lose incredibly valuable combat data and run the risk of losing the war.

It's not because it only happened two times that it's not a cycle.

>>172057962
>>172057376
I think those androids probably were from the same generation but got their hands on intel proving that humanity didn't exist anymore or something along those lines. 9S isn't the only Scanner type (even though we don't fight one as a part of that quest).
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>>172058209
you are being dumb
they already were doing enough for this battle to last forever, why would they over-complicate things this much
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>>172053835
Definitely not actual 8-bit, actual 8-bit sounds like ass.
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>>172058585
>why would they over-complicate things this much
You're definitely the one being dumb. The machine network allows portions of itself to selectively faux-detach and it then attacks those portions with zombified machines, and you're going to say a proxy war with an elite android organization is too complicated to be plausible?
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>>172055825
where's the 1cc video
>>
>>172058851
oh yea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9UyD7KG2Uc
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>>172049186
The Pods aren't responsible for the creation of Project Yorha, but they are the main control unit that keeps resetting things. You see in one of the endings that the Pods are rebuilding all of the destroyed crap. They decide to put 2B, 9S, and A2 back together and store restore their data because they think they deserve a chance or something like that.

Their dialog implies that the Pods are the only static creation of man left and that they are actually evolving as some of them have developed a sense of humor and able to think in abstract concepts.

One of the Pods tells a joke and the other says "I am not yet capable of understanding the humor of that joke, I will store it until I develop that ability" and several other lines that show the Pods are growing.

Again, the humans and aliens are responsible for creating the systems that keep producing Androids and Robots, but both species died off centuries ago to the point that the androids and robots are able to slowly evolve due to their self improvement cycles into actual life forms.
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>>172059824
Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of actual 8-bit music that I like, but every single song is held back by technical limitations. Just because you have a good melody doesn't mean the song doesn't sound like shit.
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>>172058896
Except androids straight up wrote that they created YoRHa androids from machine cores because they felt that sacrificing "real" androids would be too cruel.

If the machine network could create it's own ennemy, it would have crushed the androids (the non-YoRHa ones) long ago and then created YoRHa as a new ennemy. Not only that, but N2 litterally fight among itself debating over wether or not they should get rid of androids. If YoRHa was a part of the Network then that fight would have never happened since the androids wouldn't be an existential threat as it can still regain control over them whenever it wishes to do so.
>>
I found Shin Goji as 9s.
It was surprisingly simple, you just go to the waterfall and maybe just be lucky.

My mystery has been solved: even as I approached him as a remote controlled machine, he was still hostile to me, so it appears that you can't remote control him.

So, of course this isn't conclusive, but it seems pretty clear.

Also, he took at least two hacking actions to kill, and dropped a tree sap.
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