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Spin me right round edition

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NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
>http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn (embed)

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK (embed)

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
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>For those that have signed up:
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>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
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[MODEM SOUNDS]
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>For Honor opening trailer has a Knight, a Samurai and a Viking fight over a stream of water
>Mid fight they consider having peace and sharing the stream
>The inbred Viking ape starts shouting and attacks
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>its another "lose because I should of just blocked instead of trying to parry king" episode
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Repost time!
>>171959782
>not attacking another guy immediately
>not enjoying the salt afterwards
>not anticipating their pathetic 2v1 attempts
>not playing the game properly
>not having fun
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I want to marry FemWarden!
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PROPOSED BERZERKER BUFF:

Hitting GB during the feint window for a heavy soft feints into a bash with the offhand axe, confirming a light. As it confirms a light, it doesn't interrupt the Berzerker's infinite.

Does this fix 'zerker?
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>>171960898
And how do you counter this?
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shugoki walks up to you in the club and does this

what do you do?
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>>171960809
>"Unfortunately for you, dirty old man. Used on the battlefield."

>"Armor is... expecting someone to not chase you down because they are clad in iron is a fatal blunder"

What did he mean by this?
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>>171960898
Zerker is fine
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>>171961081
Dodge instead of trying to block or parry the heavy.
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>>171960898
I'm with >>171961081

It should be like Valk's shield bash heavy cancel into light, doesn't confirm a light, but used as a mix up to throw them off. I said in another thread that all characters should have moves similar to this, or like PK's dagger cancel, or Raider's head bop cancel.
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>>171961209
Objectively false
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>>171960898
Chain can't be broken by blocks after 2 hits not counting spin chop.
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>>171961426
The heavies can be easily parried.
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>>171961189
????????????
Is this even possible with a controller.
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>>171961345
>he cant feint
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Seriously, why do people refer to me as their dad post game?


I play a high level Lawbringer.

>Will you be my dad?
>OK DAD
>ledge me daddy
>dad?
>daddy?


When i asked one person why they called me dad they replied:
>"Big, Strong arms I guess? All homo btw.
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>>171961559
Seems like it. Heavy, unlock, heavy, cancel while holding backwards, dash.
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>>171961582
>feinting doing anything against good players
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>>171961681
Theyre gay. Report and move on
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>>171961856
This can be said for every single thing for every single class in the game
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so whats /fhg/ up to this evening
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>>171962167
Waiting for the balance patch and watching all my friends quit the game.

Really depressing times right now.
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>>171962167
Playing Brawls.
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>>171962167
trying to farm brawls with a friend who consistently gets disconnected during the black screens between rounds
Anyone know how to fix btw?
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>Valk main
>load up a duel, go against a Zerk
>fuck, I suck against Zerks. Oh well, it's good practice
>we play a few matches
>finally 3-0 him after getting 2-3'd consistently
>he switches to Orochi, clearly hasn't used it a lot
>destroy him
>he asks me to teach him how to Valk
>load up a custom match, show him Valk's moves, combos, strengths, and weaknesses
>he likes it a lot, says he's ready to try it in real matches

I didn't know a game could give me these feelings.
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>>171962167
Getting pissed that I spent 5000 steel on an emote and every time I try to use it, the character instead does a different emote that I don't even own.
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>>171961189
>>171961559
>>171961763
Fuck I finally did it, I'm so uncoordinated.

I think the video is a macro tho since it's all done perfectly.

GB cancel>Heavy1>Heavy2>Hold Move Back>Hold Sprint>Feint>Move Forward>Charge>Heavy
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>>171962740
I've heard a lot of these stories, and experienced them a few times myself and it's always neat.
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>>171960582
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>>171962963
it's not a macro i just play too much
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>>171963963
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>>171964149
Nice, I can't do it consistently because I'm dogshit with timings. I can't do the GB cancel consistently and I keep rolling when trying to charge.
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>>171964168
but genghis khan is revered as a legendary ruler who was fair to his subjects and the crusades were a response to over 300 years of muslim raiding and slaughtering in european lands
also
>war crimes
>1090AD
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>>171960582
Holy shit I love how he just zips away after you die
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>>171962040
I mean yeah that's right too, that's why it's horse shit when anyone comes out with L-LE JUS FEINT THEM against pretty much any class.
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>>171963963
>holding the sword like this
>greathelm doesnt even touch shoulders
Would not take jerusalem with/10
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>>171964408
The timing really doesn't matter desu, you can say whatever this and that for "morality of the time", but there's virtually never been a point where people weren't aware that wanton slaughter is some pretty evil shit.
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>>171964737
>holding sword like this
fix
>>171964543
Nigga you dont get it. Zerker is THE feint central
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>>171964959
Feinting into a light doesn't make the light unblockable, my dude
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>>171964338
for the gb feint it's

stance change -> guard break (during the stance change) -> attack (make sure you are not holding guard break when you input the attack)

for the shugoki charge you input the dash before the directional change
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>>171965032
But what if he blocks the other way? Or feiting into gb? Or other options that you have?
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>>171964738
muslims aren't people
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>>171964737
>greathelm doesnt even touch shoulders
he's literally wearing one of those 30 dollar costume helmets from amazon
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Anybody has that law and disorder pic that looks like a movie poster with the text?
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>>171965443
Feinting during 'zerkers chain doesn't confirm anything, it just makes it harder for the enemy to react to. Harder, not impossible.

Even if you feint everything and are completely unpredictable, anyone with an even slightly average reaction time can still block you or tech the GB.
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>already at 200,000 out of 800,000 brawl matches on PS4

At this rate we're gonna be done with this in 8 hours or less
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>>171965661
>during chain
I dont know of any chain that cant be blocked/parried at one point or another
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>>171965736

Good or bad?
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>>171965872
There are none. I didn't say it was a stunlock, it's just an attack chain.
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>>171965987
Fine by me. 2000 Steel for free is pretty nice.
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Need a friend to play allied orders wth from 2 days ago, add me- ubisoft ID: deSoap
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>>171966221
So were back to square one? You cant win against a guy that plays better than you?
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this game is so dead LMAO
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>>171966375
Oh my god talking to you is actually harder than talking to a brick wall.

Feinting doesn't do anything except hopefully throw off your opponent. If your opponent is reacting to shit at an even mildly decent speed feints wont do shit.

Where are you getting confused by this?
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>tfw get some mexican cuck on my team
>hes fucking awful

Go back to flipping tacos Pedro
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>brawls
>"Sir.Warden" rep 9 warden with black armor oh boy
>master of the vortex
>master of canceling charge into gb if I dodge
>master of canceling charge into parry if I light
>just spams guardbreaks in between or off of parries, sideheavy
>never does anything aside from 1 top light and vortex

damn what fun to fight against :)
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>>171965491
this
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>>171966567
>Feinting doesn't do anything except hopefully throw off your opponent.
Here. At "hopefully" part. Thats exactly what feints are for, and if that doesnt work - do something else. If your enemy is completely passive - thats not a zerker problem, its everyones problem.
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>>171966950
feints are way too weak, for one they should cost less stamina and not beak the chain
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>>171967051
Timings man, feint completely changes timings
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>Brawls
>Playing Warlord
>Ledge the enemy Nobushi both times I fight her, because they're so trash they can't counter GB
>Afterwards get hatemail saying I'm trash
What compels people to lose in a fight because they can't counter GB, and then message the winner acting as if they're better?
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>"""pro""" high-rep warlord
>literally spams headbutt and fullguard
>you can't combo because fullguard stops it every time
>if you hit the fullguard he always gets a near free attack
>you can only side-dodge, otherwise headbutt homes in on you
>fast distracting zone in the middle of turtling
>his only weakness is guardbreak but he's not stupid so he counters all of them
>side dodging the headbutt doesn't give you an opening for free gb, or even free attack

the only character who even mildly stands a chance against a good warlord is the Warden
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>>171967278
because people need a reason to blame something else, they cannot accept the fact that they lost because they fucked up. they can't possibly be the one to blame.

If you get ledged by ANY character, tough fucking shit, learn how to Guard Break tech.
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cost less? are you stupid? they should cost more.
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>>171966950
It is Berzerker's problem, though, because some characters have bashes that get through that. Shoulder bash, shield bash, headbutt.

Hence, the proposed buff of giving 'zerker one of those.

How retarded are you that you don't understand this?
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>>171967464
And some characters got hyperarmor, that can negate any zerker attack. Can you really not find a way around that shit
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>>171962723
Unfortunately the answer is stop playing with friends.
My favorite AAA quality bug is how if there aren't enough players in a lobby to start a new 4v4 game (<6) it drops all players back to the menu and disbands my party.
Either the QA team is basically retarded or they get ignored 100% of the time.
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>>171965491
>>171966926
Lay epin /pol/ro
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>>171967419
>Reddit finds out it takes 2.5 years to unlock everything in the game
>Freak out
>Ubisoft uncharacteristically responds immediately and says they'll fix the problem right away
>New patch comes out the very next day
>All prices raised, now it takes 5 years to unlock everything in game
The salt would be incredible
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>>171967656
You're either the single best person I've ever seen at baiting, or you're braindead.

Either way I'm done talking to you.
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>>171967762
>Ecks dee salt

Go
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>>171967404
This game just produces so much fucking salt. I've had 30 people now message me calling me shit even though I'm the one who won
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>>171967741
it's true
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since we are talking about zerker
proposed addition to his kit:

>shoulder bash after a forward dash
>does not confirm anything, drains stamina, acts as a combo starter
>bash after a heavy hit is armored and confirms into a light, also wall stuns
>heavy bash after deflect
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>>171967972
For some reason ive never gotten hate male, and i win a majority of my matches. maybe cause im riader
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>>171967806
Zerkers fine, l2p
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If you guys don't want hatemail, stop cheesing and/or playing OP heros
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>>171968214
who said we don't want it?
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>>171968214
bro its so funny making people mad like chill dude lol
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>>171968124
no he isn't
fight good players
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>>171968415
>He blocked the wrong way for the dash
Fuck, I know how that feels. For some reason Kensei's dash being opposite his direction throws me off every fucking time.

I'm Rep 6 I should know this by now
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>>171967741
t. london cuck
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>>171968214
I get hatemail for loosing in brawls or duels as a REP 20+ Lawbringer.

I don't even duel anymore unless theres an order.

Still doesn't feel right.
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>>171968415
Yes he is
stop whining
also, that cancel into side is completely parriable
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>>171968589
Certainly doesn't feel like that as kensei considering it will get me parried every time and I need to stop using it
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>>171968732
I learned it, got used to it, and then hit the point where Kensei's stopped using it so I unlearned it.

It catches me off guard and gets me hit at least once a duel, if the Ken is ballsy enough to throw it out.

>>171968652
'zerker is not fine my dude. He is easily one of the worst characters in the game.
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Raider and Law players should be bros, the most under appreciated classes that every one says sucks
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>Play at a decent level most of the time
>Sometimes play 4v4s
>Expect the Rep 8 enemy Berserker to do feints and shit
>He just ape mashes attacks and it completely throws me off guard
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>>171968982
Everyone says they suck unless you can nail every parry.

As a Raider main, I agree with them.
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>>171969082
Im a Raider main too, yeah parries and stun tap are the key to being a good Raider
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>>171968114
I've gotten it across all characters, people find the stupidest shit to bitch over
>Playing elimination as Shugoki
>Get matched up with a Warden
>He's playing super defensively, keeping his distance so I can't hit him with my unblockable hit
>After a while see my teammates are dying
>Definitely gonna get gangbanged if I stay with this fag who's too afraid to fight me on his own
>Oni charge away and grab a shield
>Warden just runs away for health
>Try to run to my last teammate, but he dies
>It's now me vs 3 high rep Wardens when I'm just a rep 1 Shugoki
>Charge away and grab an attack buff
>Take them all on and win
>Get hatemail after calling me a terrified pussy for grabbing buffs against three fucking people
I didn't even have revenge gear and yet they still bitched about me pulling off a 1v3 against them all playing a high tier character
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How many patches is Ubi gonna need to fix this broken ass game.
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>>171968931
>zerker is easily one of the worst characters in the game
>when LB exists
Just what I thought, you dont know shit and just want some easy damage combo for zerk
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>>171968982
What about Ken
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BALANCE PATCH WHEN

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171966719
Maybe you should stop being so incredibly easy to read then my man.
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>>171969210
fuck weebs
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>>171968589
>>171968732
if it gets blocked they can guard break you immediately after, but it's still good to pop in out of the blue when they aren't expecting it

>>171968652
i know it is
i'm not whining about anything, berserker is awful right now
just because you shit on retards with him doesn't make him good
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Is there a better feeling than ganking someone on their last pip of health after they yell END YOUR LIFE NIGGERS over allchat due to dying in the previous round?
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>>171961681
>play LB
>be called daddy
>little do they know you're actually the qt trap and not a strong man irl
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>Addressed the Conqueror graphical glitch introduced in the last Live Update as part of our ongoing session stability fixes.

What do they mean by this, i can still use the retarded shield bash combo and destroy my enemy's stamina so i don't know what got fixed.
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>>171965736
Hopefully not, I can't play till tomorrow night and I don't want to miss out. If they're going to put 2000 steel on line they'll need to give us more than 24 hours to participate
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>>171969209
>One of the worst
>NO THERE'S A CLASS WORSE
>But I said 'one of,' not 'the'
>LB IS WORSE UR DUMB

Okay my dude
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>>171969448
If a guy is losing it doesnt mean hes bad. Just worse than you. Been winning against people that know their character through and through by mindgames alone
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>Decide to try Brawl because of the event.
>Nothing but Valkyries, Warlords and Conquerors.

Nah fuck this.
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>>171967278
That's because warlord is actually busted. All the benefits of raider-length pushes and none pf the drawbacks.
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>>171969540
>saying "one of" when theres only one single character that is the worst out of them all
Whatever you say my man
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>>171968214

>implying people don't want hatemail
>implying people don't know how to make it stop

How autistic are you that you thought this post was insightful in any way?
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>>171969778
True, but you can still counter GB, it's not even like I did it after parrying.
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I
FUCKING
HATE
WARLORD
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171969804

>"The worst" can't be applied as a generalizing characteristic modifier to multiple entities

Ugh, the stupidity
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>>171969804
"one of" is still applicable in that case. You're a fucking embarrassment. kys.
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>>171969297
"in the coming weeks"

So basically they are going to just stretch this out until their first "DLC"
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>>171969668
that doesn't mean the character is good
you can do the exact same shit on lawbringer and raider just by having superior fundamentals, that doesn't make raider or lawbringer good
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Holy fuck Conq is broken. What can you even fucking do against this piece of shit?

>Dodging Shield Bash doesn't confirm anything
>Throwing out a heavy ever gets you GB'd
>Running out of stamina means you just lose
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>>171970084
>>171970140
>"one of" is the same as "single one"
Learn some english, fags
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>>171969804
Are you disabled?
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>>171970272
you dodge to the side and hope for a miracle.
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>>171970405
>Dodge a bash
>Can do nothing at all
>Conq still has a perfect defense
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>>171968214
I like hatemail because it's basically someone showing how pathetic and insecure they are that they can't handle losing in a video game without trying to justify it somehow
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>>171970520
No it just shows that they're human. Whats pathetic is people trying to show their peers how cool and big their ego is.
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>>171969421
>try to dodge instead of light attack
>he cancels and guardbreaks
>try to light attack and he just cancels into parry

Maybe it doesn't help that I was playing Raider and Lawbringer, who both have extremely slow lights, but I couldn't do a goddamn thing it felt like. Guy might as well have been playing chess against himself.
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>>171970310

He didn't say "single one," you ignorant swine. He said "one of the worst."
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>>171971046
English is hard for some people it seems
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>>171969493
I believe if you unlocked while mid-animation into a heavy as Conq, you would sperg out and spin or some shit while still attacking. Rather disorienting to face because it would be an attack indicator coming from your right, then he unlocks and his model is coming at you from your left, then he re-locks and he smacks you.
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>Fight a defensive Rep 8 Conq 3 games in a row despite leaving after each match
>Finally get someone else
>It's a Berserker
>He literally runs from me each and every fight

I'm gonna go do other things for a bit
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>>171971030
He can't do any of that on reaction. Unless you were dodging SUPER early or attacking SUPER early, and even if you did start the attack early the input to parry it would be real difficult.
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>>171970520
t. warden/pk/warlord/valk/conq
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>>171968415
Damn that fuckin dash-block-gb is hot

Is this intended? It's a very interesting technique and I hope they don't remove it
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>>171969765
>Get teamed with a warlord
>Agaisnt a warlord and a pk
>They have red nat.

why
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>>171970027
>tfw win brawl match by throwing off 4 times in a row
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>>171971270
>He can't do any of that on reaction

I mean it sure as fuck feels like he does. It might just be me reacting too fast, because I've encountered wardens before where I feel like they just react to everything I do. I mean I swear they can charge their shoulder for as long as they want and even engage it for the first few frames that he moves/charges, and then cancel it into a guardbreak. Fucking absurd man.
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>>171971573
>Is this intended?
I think so, Kensei has been know to be able to block while dashing
Im so used to Kensei that when I get hit dashing while playing other characters it throws me off
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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club
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>>171971713
You want to dodge away from the charge late, there's a dodge sweet spot that's before the point where the dodge will stagger you anyway and after the time where he can no longer input the gb cancel.
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>>171971664
>PK

deserves it

>4 times in a row

Did he ragequit on the rematch when you threw him off in the first round?
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>>171945529
>Braindead
>conq
>OROCHI
>balanced, tune down A BIT
>WARLORD
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>when you bait an exhuasted parry but still fuck up the counter parry
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>>171971882
Conq is pretty braindead.
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>play dominion because of orders
>enemy team: PK, Roach, Conq, Zerk
>literally all of them are revenge builds
>Block three of my hits, use revenge, kill me
>fucking every single one of them
>get a kill, execution menu pops up, but wait PK uses revenge after death and comes back to life and kills me
I think im done with dominion now
>>
someone tell me why Valk barely gets half the btiching Wardens get? Her first light is PK-tier, she has a 33/33/33 vortex with the sole way out of it being a dodge with impeccable timing, her shield bash has the tracking of a fucking sidewinder missile, AND she covers a stupid amount of distance unlike Warden. So where is the Valk hate?
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>>171971573
it is
he has a dash guard break specifically, and if you parry someone with high range and dash gb them it's techable; i don't see the purpose otherwise

>>171971943
i baited this guy's exhausted parry and went for a gb IMMEDIATELY after, and it didn't go through and he lumped me
i don't get why it's harder to gb someone mid heavy when they are exhausted
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Is it bad i just quit everytime i see someone having a red nat on duels.

Their fucking lag is fustrating.
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>>171972163
People that usually dont know what they're talking about
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>>171971854
nah, it was today
they said nothing
>>
>>171972163
I'm pretty sure the agreed cancer of this game are; PK, Valk, Warlord
and then vortex exploiting Warden and shield bash spam Conq
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>>171972163
her vortex is reactable
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>>171970709
Going out of your way to message someone making excuses for why you lost in a video game is pretty fucking sad dude
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>>171971664
>mfw realising you can hold heavy to drag people further with impale charge on LB
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>>171972556
Why is someone spending a couple seconds of their time to make themselves feel better sad?

Playing a $100 game for free seems a little bit more pathetic to me.
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>>171972264
We should honestly genocide all the people that play with red nat.
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>>171972180
>i don't get why it's harder to gb someone mid heavy when they are exhausted
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THANK YOU ANON
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>>171972509
>reactable

>need a perfectly time dodge to skip the sweep
>or have to guess whether or not she'll shield base into another combo OR a sweep
>OR have to guess if she's going to cancel into a GB which extends the combo again and then you have to do it all over OR she'll throw you behind her for a guaranteed sweep and then try it again

yeah, 'reactable'
>>
>>171972727
Because it's just a game. If you lose accept it, move on and improve so you don't.
What's absolutely pathetic is making excuses for why you lost instead of accepting it and learning what do to/not to do next time
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>>171972778
what did i do
please don't throw out random heavies when you are exhausted, it'll get you killed
>>
>Vikings finally making a push
god damn i thought we were gonna lose our stronghold for a second
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>>171973151
I thought im just so bad with gbs that they outplay me while exhausted
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>>171973140
But a game is a part of 90% of your life is it not?
Why wouldn't you take it seriously if its gonna take up most of your life.

Its pretty pathetic to not take something seriously thats gonna be with you for so long. Why else would you play games? It sounds pretty depressing to me if you play it just to pass time.
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>>171973273
i just don't get it
the heavies take longer to go out but they still just fucking smash you up
it's so annoying with kensei when i try to feint into a gb and they just fuck me in the arse because of it
>>
>>171973151
Jesus that Raider is bad
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>>171973089
yup
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>>171973340
You're taking it seriously enough to make excuses for yourself instead of just shrugging off the loss that's just too much. Games are for fun, not for you to throw a tantrum and make excuses every single time you lose one
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>>171973402
That gb vulnerability window stays the same probably?
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>>171973717
But I don't? You're projecting hard here I'm just trying to reason with you on why people type out their emotions, they're human.

I really don't get the hostility from you, you come off as very angry.
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>>171972180
>i don't get why it's harder to gb someone mid heavy when they are exhausted
Because you can't get gb when you're in an animation, and exhausted animations take longer to start up
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>>171973404
with experience comes perspective

>>171973843
>>171973913
that's a fucking joke
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>>171972005
Try him and you'll see that he needs a lot of dedication to be strong against non-braindead players who dont spam raw heavies and learned how to dodge
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>>171974147
He really doesn't. He might be a little weak damage wise but he never needs to ever stop shield chargine.
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>>171973896
I'm not saying you do, I'm saying people who do are pathetic. I have over a fucking dozen messages from different people making excuses for why they lost, or even better calling me trash even though they lost.
>>
>Killed a dude with the damage from a toss
That felt cool.
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>>171974374
Why do you have so many messages of hate saved? Are you some sort of masochist?
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Holy shit that felt good.
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Tfw bored as fuck already god damn I need friends
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>>171974332
Shield charge is avoidable, much easier than warden's shouder bash and especially than warlord's headbutt.
Conq braindead only against braindead opponents with 1 sec reaction time, against any other decent player you need to be much smarter and faster, but yeah, you'll be rewarded for it, im not saying that conq is weak, he's strong, but definitely not braindead and his skill ceiling is much higher than skill floor.
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>>171973994
True enough, I main Raider and never got why people say Raider is garbage in duel cause I win a majority of my matches but that...now i see why
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>tfw return to warden after a couple days of absence
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>finally slog through campaign on realistic
>beat final mission
>black screen after credits
>have to restart the mission
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>>171974936
Here's the thing though, outside of maybe another conq or a warden the shield bash is unpunishable. You recover from it so quickly someone can react to it with a dodge attack and you can still block.
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>>171975047
>tfw returning to Kensei after a week of Warden
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>>171975069
realistic wasn't even hard
>>
Vikings and Samurai need to team up and make sure Vultards never win a single rounds for the entire existence of the game.
>>
>all these bad players playing brawl because of the order
>>
>>171975656
you wish
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>>171975656
It would be fucking hilarious if all the Deus Vult Reddit fags never won a single round in season 1
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>>171974941
i think raider is severely underrated, but for sure not even scratching the balls of pk/conq/warlord

>>171975492
realistic was a mega disappointment for me, I expected to oneshot everything but also get oneshot
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Do parries just mindbreak some people or what?
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>>171975047
How do i connect top heavy after full charge
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test
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>>171976163
AD
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>>171976250

BLOCKER
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>>171976028
you need to input the top heavy before the charge connects
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>>171976028
Don't full charge. There's a sweetspot where it stuns them long enough to eat the heavy, but doesn't through them out of range. It's right after you flash white and get hyperarmor.
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>>171976250
*dodge*
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>>171974626
I find it funny, might make a collage
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>>171976613
Post it here.
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>>171974626
i do the same anon
i-i dont know why
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>>171976771
Manlet syndrome
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>>171976771
>lewdkeeper
Does that even count
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>>171976892
im 6ft 1 anon, i thought this wasnt manlet territory
>>171976923
no, i just wanted to include him in it
>>
>>171976985
Lying on the internet isnt healthy
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>>171975719
>Including you
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>>171976771
you fucking mongol
>>
why does Warlord has fast attacks?
he all ready has particularly everything apart from deflects
who designed this character?
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>>171977517
Warlords heavies are pretty fucking slow, and I have people parry my light attack, even in the combos where it's slightly faster
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>>171978181
>warlord attacks
>slow
his attack speed is literally the second highest in the game
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>>171978423
You cant reason with a Warlord main
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>>171978423
>tells for lights and heavies are so similar you need to rely on the constipated HRRRNGH which doesn't play for some reason 10% of the time
>has one of the four fast zone attacks, yet his does a full 25 damage and can kill on 1 pip of health

Even without headbutt spam, Warlord would be pretty bullshit.
>>
>>171978423
I said his heavies are slow. Lights aren't bad, but some people still manage to parry them
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>>171978181
he has faster side lights than roach's
>>
1-4 Main Warden
5-9 Main Kensei
0 Main Peacekeeper
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>>171978762
SWORD
DAD
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>Have rep 12 Raider on our team in dominion
>Enemy has a rep4 Raider
>Orochi joins
>OH MY GOD THE ENEMY HAS A REP 12, WATCH OUT
>THAT REP12 IS SO BAD HAHA LOOK AT HIM
>Try to tell him 500 times that his team is on the left side during the Vs screen and that his teammate is the rep12 and not the other way around
>Didn't understand it even after the match
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>>171978762
stop being a pussy and main raider. these dubs demand it.
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>>171978762
Welcome to the big leagues, kid.
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>>171971664
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>>171978916
>dubs on /vg/
your class is representative of your intelligence
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>>171978813
>>171978916
>>171978919
I love Kensei too much not to play him i'll main both desu
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>>171978985
>What is 00
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>>171979067
>dubs
>on /vg/
>at all

are you dumb
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>Fighting a Warden that's defensive as fuck as Kensai
>>
What can nobushi confirm off of light parries? Heavy parries?
>>
>>171979360
>short range heavies
gb > top heavy
>long range heavies
s + light attack (vipers retreat)
>light parry
top heavy
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>>171975307
If you make it punishable that would throw conq down to a shit-tier, either if you want it to be punishable then it needs to be quicker and light attacks must be stronger as a follow-up.
Warden and warlord are much more simplier on medium or high-level of play and as overall skill ceiling and floor (but anyway only one truly braindead character its a PK). Conq requires a lot more practice against any decent opponent due to his somewhere retarded timings, lack of speed and special feinting mechanic.
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>>171979360
>>171979496
vipers retreat must be done instantly on parry, otherwise it will get blocked
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>law does less damage than PK despite his attacks being twice as slow
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>>171976163
In the end he killed you with a bow and kunai?
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>some shitter gets their feelings hurt
>game crashes
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>>171979937

close! but see

>>171974789
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Does anyone have the one with the conqueror saying get me outta here?
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>>171980303
>>
nobushi might be shit but she's still anti-fun as fuck to fight against
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Why is dominion dominant game mode and not 4v4 deathmatch?
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NEW ELITE OUTFITS WHEN?
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>>171980558
>nobushi with a faster guard swap speed
it's terrifying to think of
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>>171980781
Because I say so
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>>171978958
>That 90 degree turn that happens the instant you start charging the raider off a ledge
Even you have to admit that was fucking bullshit
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>>171980927
you can see me line it up but im not gonna pretend that thing isnt a heat seeking missile
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>>171979930
PK "balance" reminds me of genji in overwatch during the period when he was safest, versatile, fastest, mobile, literally the best character in the game without any decent 1v1 counterplay when he has 8sec ultimate, triple-jump, ledge-boost and melee-cancel swiftstrike combo.
And people somehow defended him and he was nerfed only by the time when 2d competitive season was launched.
>>
>>171981012
>when he had
fxd
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>>171980997
I can see you starting the impale in a direction that would make him hit a wall and suddenly it turned into a ledge seeking missle
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>>171980927
Impaling charge will always move in the direction the enemy is from you when you hit them.

If you run to the side of someone with charge and just barely clip them on the side hitbox, the characters will make a turn and go in that direction.
>>
>>171981556
i was unlocked, it always goes dead straight from your character

if anything the warden got burned the hardest, but that's his own fault for using the warping running heavy
>>
What if Lawbringer had a gun?
>>
what am I support to do as Conq?
all I can do is poke light attack people to dead
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>>171982639
Then he could actually bring the law
>>
>tfw thanks to For Honor you potentially just found your significant other and also discovered you're gay

T-thanks Ubisoft
>>
>>171983012
Are you the trap or is he?
>>
>>171983012
t. Warlord main
>>
>tfw made my teammate PK rq
>by calling her a retarded pk main
>she starts raging how conq and warden is a noob class
>rages a bit more
>gets killed by shugi
>rqits
>>
>>171983048
I'm pretty feminine, he's 6'4" and built like a brick shit house. He lives maybe only an hour away from me.
>>
>>171983012
explain
>>
>>171983156
You about to get some dick?
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>>171983270
>Like For Honor
>Join For Honor related RP groups (nor the erotic kind, actual DnD style ones)
>Meet a guy
>He RPs as a Warden, I RP as a Peacekeeper
>Our characters fall in love
>We talk a lot over the past two or so weeks
>We fucking fall in love

Kill me, I didn't know I was gay. Talking to the guy makes my damn chest flutter and my face burn bright red.
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>>171960642
>not feinting into an actual parry

bad
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>>171983591
ive pretended to be a woman online, but then i fell in love, but then i realized i only felt guilty because i was recieving free stuff online, but then i realized i am not heartless and cannot be a woman online. and then i realized i was not in love i was just guilty i was leading somebody on online
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>>171983591
Holy shit, anon.

Just go fuck him and kill yourself right after.
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>>171983591
The fuck you got some iss-

Ay im happy for you anon. Good on you.
>>
>>171983591
What group? It better not be the knights discord; everyone there is a massive whore
>>
>>171983591
Yeah, I know that feeling. I fell for Warden too ~
>>
Why is Kensei so based against all these assasins?
>>
>>171984726
t.nobushi
>>
>playin brawls
>skys on the enemy team
>literally 2000 people about to watch me play
>teammate literally goes 0-5, have to carry
>lose 3-2 but at least i kills him twice and didnt embarrass myself
>say ggs in his twitch chat
>doesnt seem impressed
>watch the vod
>turns out he was getting salty over how i was beating him
>dunno whether to feel good that i made a pro player mad or feel bad that 2k people now think im an asshole

fuck me for playing the game right
>>
>>171985264
who were you playing as?
>>
>>171984397
It wasn't really a group, to be honest I met him on here.
>>
>tfw you will never discover your new lover and true sexuality through For Honor

Someone hold me.
>>
>>171985347
warden
>>
>>171985264
>He spams ''Good fight!'' when he destroys his opponent
>Doesnt do anything when he gets destroyed

Hes a salty nigger being carried by the Vortex
>>
>>171985510
>Beating him with his main

Dude has no excuses. Even if you were being max tier cheesy, he should have been able to take it.
>>
>>171985264
You made a somewhat popular streamer mad. That's like the holy grail of hatemail.
You should feel accomplished.
>>
>>171985264
Yeah fuck that. Just body him and move on.

It really depends on his mood and when he drinks he cocaine juice. Theres times where hes cool with being beat and other times hes clearly not.
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>>171985264
>caring about what those retards think

I don't understand why people even bother with these streamers, they're all so bad
>>
>>171985510
send vod, i wanna see good wardens play
>>
ok so newshitter here
what the fuck am I support to do with warden shoulder charge spam?

>dodge it
>he grab me
>try to to tech it
>he just bump me and keep attacking
>try to light attack him
>he cancel and parry
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>tfw I always get destroyed by my own Kensei's tricks

I know what he can do yet I never counter it
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>>171985675
>>171985594
>somewhat popular
>so bad
skys places pretty high in tournies and hes easily one of the top 3 for honor streamers. so you both are selling him short
>>171985676
twitch dot tv
/videos/130908890?t=03h46m21s

plz no bully
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>>171985843
just guard top
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>Valk mirror match
>holy shit, it's actually fun
>keep playing, bunch of close matches
>guy goes out of his way to message me
>Dude ur nice
>I've faced alot of Valk's, but You're better then the rest
>mfw

For every 25 salty players who rage quit and spam wow, there's one of these.
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>>171985767
Don't be readable. Everything he's doing is based on prediction, not reaction.

Or just unlock and roll away: that gets you out for free.
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Man these servers are such shit, aren't they? We ran into this rep 4 Nobushi multiple times during brawls and she kept disconnecting for some reason. I hope she gets it fixed!
>>
>>171985936
this is why duels are much better than brawls. brawls is just a cheese fest of retards abusing annoying shit trying to piss people off. duels are either people who are really bad and salty or really good and cooperative. shame it gives like 0 xp and steel

dont even get me started on 4v4
>>
Is law basically OP in the right hands and against the right person?

Right hands being someone who can parry really well.

Right person being someone who's not a goddamn turtle, and actually attacks, especially light attacks.

Of course, against turtles, there's literally nothing he can do, but that's not the point.
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>>171986348
>Is LB good in the only situation he's good in

Yes.
But then again so is every character.
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>>171985925
yo uwere throwing way too many top lights, surprised he did not parry you more
>>
>>171986348
anyone is op against anyone else if they turtle and know how to parry and the enemy is over-aggressive
>>
>>171979338
>Kensai

I swear I will sodomize you fuckers with a polehammer
>>
>>171986348
No.
>>
>classes with fast Zone attacka are top tier
>classes with shit zone attack are meh at best
and I doubt this will ever be balance
>>
>>171986460
yes i know, easy to critique in hindsight
>>
>>171986441
>>171986502
Well I just meant parrying light attacks.

Obviously, parrying is great for any character, and is too powerful, but law, if I'm not mistaken, has the best light parry punish in the game, aside from memelord/ledgendary environment killing people off of a parry GB.
>>
>>171986579
But you're wrong. Conq has a shit tier Zone, and Warlord's is alright at best.
PK is the only top tier with a good Zone. Warden is not top tier.

Orochi also has a super good zone, and he's not top tier by an stretch.

Stop being an idiot
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>>171986708
>warlord's is alright at best


t. halfdan
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FACT: Lawbringer is the most fun character in the game.

He's also considered underpowered

I think this is because it's the only character that uses everything in the game's mechanics and game knowledge.

My conclusion: Do not buff LB. Make the other characters more deep and satisfying to play and nerf them where needed.

If it wasn't for LB I wouldn't even play this game anymore.
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>>171986960
it's slow tho
damage is a bot too high, it's basically a heavy
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>>171987410
you can't be more wrong even if you tried your best
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>>171987440
I really can;t figure out how to parry shugs.

Its either way to slow or too fast and i have no idea which it's going to be.
>>
>>171987410
>he's underpowered but don't buff him
what?
>>
>>171987781
Red indicator flashes parry timings.
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>>171983012
>>171983156
I can just picture you going to meet him, it's going to be so romantic.
>You drive the hour away to his house
>He told you in advance his parents would probably answer the door since he uses headphones and won't hear the bell
>You introduce yourself as his boyfriend and ask to come inside
>The parents look at you like you're a fucking retard and say they don't have a son
>Later you find out he sent you to a random address and blocked you on all accounts while you were driving
>>
>>171987830
because then all the tierwhore autists will flood to lawbringer like they did to valk
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>>171988168
and then what?
you won't feel special?
that's a daft reason for wanting a character to not get a buff
>>
>>171987440
I find stam drained shugs to be the hardest thing to parry in the game.
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>>171987921
I can't see my screen that well, so I try to look for the animations.

But i'll check that next time to learn the timing.
>>
>>171979338
Is this picture a loss joke or have I just been conditioned to see that fucking comic everywhere?
>>
>>171988345
notice how everybody whines for valk to get nerfed now
itll happen to valk and she'll be absolute shit again
and then itll happen when law gets buffed
and he'll be even worse than he is now
>>
>>171988168
>Dude keep one character blantantly overpowered so I can feel like a special snowflake and have an excuse for when I lose
This is why Lawbringers are scum
>>
>>171988452
It might be but fuck is that subtle
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>>171987534
kara cancel it or do it out of allblock and it almost always hits

besides it's almost as fast as his lights
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>>171988472
I mean Valk is bullshit though.
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>>171988472
Valk is ridiculous though. She's too fast for how hard she hits, and her shield stance is a literal free time out for her in a fight since it has superior block. You can't get close enough to GB her otherwise you'll be bashed.
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>>171988769
why would you do it out of a full block
that literally all of you stamina, when you can just throw a fast heavy out of it
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>>171960159
Is the new patch any good?
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>>171988878
>>171989012
valk is not even as strong as a warden, what are you whining about?
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>>171988472
no that's you being a nonce, a valk nerf wouldn't even happen because as valk stands she still isn't in the top 4 even after her buff
face it you only want law to be bad so you can blame the fact that you lose on your characters
>>
3 Decides my main.

If you roll 8, you main who you suggested.
>>
anyone else notice that some of the best opponents you face are the ones who lag?

They rely on lag as a crutch to win and it makes parrying them almost impossible
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>>171989227
>not knowing how ubibalancing works
they dont buff or nerf characters based on their performance in the game
they buff and nerf them based on how much the playerbase whines about them
and the playerbase as a whole finds valk's "sweepchain" (which you can easily dodge every time) overpowered
nerf inc
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>>171989371
that's just wrong, it's based on win rate they even said so on the dev stream
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>>171989371
>the division
>people were whining about seeker mines since for ever
>still not nerfed

i guess PK nerf never then
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>>171989596

Siege gets changes

Eventually
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>>171989371
how come Warden still havnt been nerf yet?
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>>171989354
RAIDERRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>171989760
>warden
>needs nerfs
opinion discarded
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>>171989354
Join the Lawbringer order
and just wait for the buff instead.
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>>171989354
LMAO 2AXE

2AXE
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>>171990053
>tfw already have 'zerk at Rep 1
Rep 3 here I come, I guess.
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>>171960616
Doesn't Appolyn's archer shoot him?
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>>171987781
really just have to wait, the parry windows are huge on shugo so you have plenty of time to parry. as the other anon said, the indicator does flash white at the start of the parry window.
>>171988387
The animation surprised me as much it did the lawbringer in that fight. Actually I have no idea why the animation did that, I just tried to record the animation and I can't replicate it. Guess its a bug?
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>>171989560
>believing their lies
>>171989760
he will because people whine about him so much, cap it
>>171989859
>having no reading comprehension at all
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>>171969804
Is English your second language?
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>>171990345
well it's obvious that they don't balance based om public opinion otherwise we would have PK and Warlord nerfs
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>>171989354
BE THE LAW
>>
>Play elimination and absolutely demolish the enemy team
>End up going 9-0
>Everyone leaves the lobby afterwards except one dude, who invites me to play with him
>Figure why not
>We group up and start playing
>Again this match I'm having to carry us hard and getting a lot of kills
>It's close, but I can't carry us hard enough and we lose
>Check the team to see who wasn't pulling their weight
>Guy who invited me to group up has zero kills over 5 rounds
>I leave and he tries inviting me back
Why do people expect strangers to carry them to a win?
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>>171990581
because they've only done one balance patch since the launch and are being lazy with the next one
>>
Do people still pretend Dominion isn't shit?
>>
Why are you at a disadvantage in a 2v1?
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>>171990946
but they've also said that instead of nerfing characters that they'll buff the weaker ones, and that's why law, raider and zerker are getting buffed
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>>171991216
Because of revenge, or to be more specific, the fact that stacking revenge gain gear is the most effective thing in the game.
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i found this in another thread and thought it was cool
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I wish i knew how much damage it does.
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>>171983012
As expected of Ubi
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>>171990975
Dominion is okay to switch it up now and again, skirmish is the real dogshit mode.
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>>171991728
>They talk about honor yet let their teammates die
>And they want ubisoft to enforce it
This is what pisses me off about honorfags
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>mfw absolutely dominating a PK as Conq
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>>171983591
>/fhg/ - fucking hella gay
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>rep 26 Orochis exist
>>
WHY THE FUCK AM I ALWAYS FIGHTING PEOPLE WITH YELLOW AND RED NAT
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>>171989218
>lightning fast lights
>if you play law or shugoki, dodging her spearsweep after eating the second light is nearly impossible
>lel superior block on shield charge which has bullshit tracking
>retarded fucking fast speed
>tons of mixup potential

she's pretty bad lad
>>
>>171992419
I main law and find her lights super easy to parry, I have more trouble with the roach top lights
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>>171992362
>Get matched against a rep 20 Peacekeeper
>They act surprised and upset when I ledge them
I'm not dealing with their bullshit speed when I can just ledge them
>>
So elimination AI is the fastest way to get exp right?
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>>171992558
For me its the problem of once i get hit once im boned because the second stance change timing is all fucked.
>>
>duel
>Rep 10 Warden
>Meso
>Meso
>Zone
>Meso
>Zone
>Meso
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>>171993062
yep. get used to it.
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What's the fastest way to get XP? I think this dude would like to know too.
>>171992754
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Post DAUBENY

Also, does anyone have the r6s/for honor webms?
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>when they quit and the bots better than they were
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>>171993271
Dominion match, semi-afk on one point to boost it.

Win or lose you get a huge amount of XP because your ending score was through the roof.
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>>171992419
>>lightning fast lights
>>if you play law or shugoki, dodging her spearsweep after eating the second light is nearly impossible
>>lel superior block on shield charge which h

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CpVpf4G76w

block any dash attack, and it's a free guard break, dodge the shield bash successfully (if it's charged), free guard break
>>
Good roach players are fucking rage inducing desu

fuck his bugged zone attack too it's by far the most bullshit one
>>
Are you supposed to be able to eyeball a PK's light attack spam for blocking? I'm not nearly fast enough to keep up with that.
>>
>Play elimination
>Get paired with low level retards because there is no actual matchmaking system
>Low level retards don't get a single kill, and leave the final round to avoid taking the loss, sometimes crashing the game
EVERY FUCKING TIME
>>
>>171993782
No.

PKs light spam is one of the only things that everyone in the game (except pk mains who don't get a voice) agree is bullshit and needs a nerf.

Unless you have the reflexes of a god (and lets be real here, you don't, and neither do the vast majority of people), you can't reliably block/parry PK light spam.
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>>171993381
Thanks
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>>171991216
You arent, learn how to attack into enemy attacks when he's focused on your teammate, learn how to chain your attacks and guardbreaks with your teammates, spam control abilities and trap your enemy into a wall. 2v1 shouldnt be about brainless spam without any chance to survive for the one who's being ganked (and if you gank somebody with a shugoki on your side or a lawbringer there is no chance for him to survive actually, except you're all retarded).
The only one character which is a complete fucking joke during revenge mode its a PK, if she's not garbage-tier player and you dont have enough competent lawbringer/shugo in your team who's will flip/hug her endlessly while she's in revenge - just leave from match.
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Experienced my first 50/50 shugoki match, don't know what i expected
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Holy shit going from secondary stamina cost to no stamina cost stat is horrifying for Lawbringer.
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>>171994481
But anon, his armor is so bulky it must be like wearing a refrigerator.
And from the way he swings it his poleaxe must have a 20lb head on it.
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>>171989354
zerker
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>>171989354
PEACEKEEPER
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>>171989354
Raider
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feels fuckin good man
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>>171994296
the 50/50 shugoki run spammers are genuinely the biggest cancer in this game imo, maybe even with PK
>>
I'm going back to immediately quitting out of brawl and duel every time it's a PK. It's never fun or challenging or interesting, it's the same shit every single fucking time and I'd have more fun rolling my hands in thumbtacks by this point.
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>>171989354
pk
>>
Why do orochi always run? It never fails to happen.
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>>171995315
PK*
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>>171995315
They don't play one of the fastest in the game to not run away.
Running away is gay as shit, it's literally running my fun in elimination
>Want to play Shugoki
>Everytime I do there's some assassin that IMMEDIATELY runs away for buffs or to gank knowing I can't stop them
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>>171994806
Nice bait, but I do want to touch on the second point.

WHY THE FUCK does the LB go into battle with a weapon he can't wield effectively?
Also Raider/Shugoki ffs.
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>>171989354
CancerKeeper
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>>171989354
Peace fucking keeper
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>>171995315
>>171995489
Because when you know you can disengage safely it frequently seems like a good idea. Especially in Elim where you can get powerups, or Dom where you can leave to heal/gank someone else.

Yes it makes you look like a bitch, but sometimes it really is the smarter option. You don't do you team any good dead after all.
>>
>>171995489
>>171995791
just get rid of powerups in general, they're fucking stupid. I cant count how many times i've fought people far worse than me who've beaten me cause every time i get them to critical health they run away. Just today i had a guy get 4 health regen powerups during our fight and the game timed out to a draw. I took down 4, almost 5 health bars and he didnt do even 1.
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>>171995791
When they are the last one standing and there is no one to revive, it makes 0 sense.
>>
>tfw see someone playing blackgoki or vikangz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmk8dbFv_o
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>>171995791
I'm talking about before the fight even fucking starts. They just see that I'm Shugoki and have no chance of catching up to them and they run away.
>>171995989
I'd like it if the pickups didn't spawn in until like a minute into the round
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>>171996032
If you expect gamers not to engage in pointless cuntery you're gonna have a bad time.
In any game.
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>>171996202

This is EXACTLY why I play blackgoki and vikang. It fucks with your head in ways that I can take advantage of. Makes you predictable.
>>
>>171966719
>>171969421
What is the counter to the Warden's Vortex? To my knowledge the only reliable way out is to roll backwards.
>>
>>171993480
I know your pain bro.
>>
>>171996586
>missing the joke so hard
but keep bragging about how you think people actually get shook by what color your character is
>>
How do I deal with headbutt spam as Law?
>>
>>171996608
>>171993480
The trick is to be reactive instead of attacking first.
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>>171996324
Pragmatism wins, they render your fat ass ineffective by refusing to fight, and they can help a teammate out while you try to catch up, ideally turning 2 1v1s into two 2v1s in their favor.
I agree that it's an asshole move, and not fun to be on the receiving end of, but it often wins games, and competitors play to win.
>>
>>171996731

>shook

lolno

they get aggressive and stupid

like you
>>
>>171996785
back and light, so you step out of it which lets oyu get a hit in, this only works sometimes, and he'll probably still work cause warlord, but you can hope
>>
>>171986348
>right hands being someone who can parry really well

You mean how every single class can parry so saying he is OP for this reason is redundant?
>>
>>171996939
It's game breaking in the sense that I'm automatically playing with a handicap if I pick Shugoki because I can't catch them if they decide to run.
>>
>>171994962
>>171995051
>>171995284
>>171995608
>>171995713
You retards, look at their replies, someone beat you to it a long time ago and it was someone not being a nig.
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>>171997314
DANN MITT BOB
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I shall play like this.
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>>171989354
peacekeeper
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>>171997003
>But you can hope
Lawbringer mains are build on hope
>>
>>171997189
>didn't read my next post
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>>171997256
That's because Ubi designed the chars based on Dominion and tried to balance for 1v1 after. The heavies are supposed to be point guardians, where you never have to chase. Picking a heavy you trade mobility for a larger health pool.
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>>171980389
Underrated use of hyper armor
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>>171960159

>Be Shugoki
>biggest from my village
>like carrying heavy things
>pretty good at lifting up and putting down heavy things
>one day the emperor tells me that I can't just lift heavy things all my life
> "A Samurai needs master both the mind and body"
>He sends me on a mission to gather information on enemy weaponry
>Musashi once said to know yor enemy is to know his sword or something
>I find metal man on a bridge
>he's screaming something in latin so I hit him with big stick to make him stop
>I hear more Latin yelling coming from far away
>I panic and start putting on the metal man armor
>Other metal men see me and start talking to me in Latin
>I don't understand, but I start yelling
"Dus volt!"
>It seems to work because they all start yelling "DEUS VULT!"
>I followed them back to their castle and it has been 12 weeks
>everytime they talk to me in Latin I just yell "DEUS VULT!" They do the same and continue walking
>I think I like it here
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has anyone noticed after the patch, feinting a heavy into light attack seems much more fluid and quicker?
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>>171997721
>Dus Volt
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>>171997956
I can't do that.
>>
>>171983591
jesus christ
>>
Is it possible to parry an outside source?

Say i'm targeting one guy then i parry the guy whos hitting me from the side.
>>
>>171998223
Yes, you can parry attacks from flanking enemies by parrying in that direction. Also, if multiple people swing at the same time and you parry one attack, you automatically parry all attacks in that same window, regardless of origin.
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>>play pk
>>have head so far up my ass yet can't keep my shit from falling out
>>constantly scream at people that parry my attacks
>>utterly lose my mind when people hit me
>>crying bloody tears when I lose one round
>>UH OH BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPP
>>mommy brings in fresh diapers and tendies
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rate these lawguys
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>>171997616
>someone saved your ebin meme
Now I can die happy
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What are you listening anon?
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>>171999383
>Lawbringer
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God damn i'm such a fucking shitter
I know i just started but i wish i could do more than just flail around aimlessly most of the time to try and not get murdered
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>>171999383
Right now its my library on shuffle
Currently 3 Libras by A Perfect Circle
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should I take speed revive or attack increase for first feat?
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>>171999383
>Viking
>Not listening to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsem83orRHM
>>
>>171999383
Slayer: Seasons in the Abyss

Conqueror
>>
>>171999014
Yeah sounds about right
>>
I'm literally going to hit 30 on Law before the patch comes out.
>>
>>171998015
Desu burutsu? Deuusu burutsu? Hows that?
>>
>>171999383
>lawbringer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6rJn_TEu5Y
>>
>>171999383
tfw I'm the viking anon that posted that Amon Amarth album so much before and I'm still listening to it between others of theirs
>>
>>172000072
They absolutely fucked with the loot box system. I'm a rep fucking 5 warlord and I'm still getting some blues in every box I buy, this is bullshit. This never happened on my main
>>
>>171999514
>>171999617
>>171999654
>>171999660
>>171999979
Do you even shed the blood of the saxon men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY&index=81&list=PLU4qPCOQyeLxebrRrUwMKUr0KW6j88zLy
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>>171999383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMHkYijJW3M
Lawbringer
>>
>>172000237
christopher lee's part is way too short and the shitty normal vocalist's parts are way too long
>>
>>171968415
This starts off with heavy > feint > dash > gb right?
>>
Hyper Armor is the most cancerous mechanic ever invented.
>>
>>171999383
>Lawbringer with hellfire execution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3NoDEu7kpg
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>>172000545
Maybe you should quit mashing you retarded PK main
>>
>>172000207
It's always been that way though, there's only 2 guaranteed high pieces in one of the boxes, so that usually ends up meaning 3 blue and 2 purps or rarely you'll get a third purple.
>>
>Want to Practise Parry.
>Match up with people who abuse zone glitch.
>Have hard time parrying it.
>Match up with laggy conqs whose charged heavy comes out faster than zone.
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>>172000545
That would be bleed, you giant fagmaster.
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>tfw you suck but want to git gud and play with /fhg/
>tfw you still haven't been able to pin down a main so you can't truly git gud with one hero

It hurts.
>>
>>171999363
You can't, I need more. Get to it
>>
FUCKING SHITTY ASS FUCKING ZONE FAKE FUCKING INDICATORS FUCK
>>
>>172000895
On my main I was getting all purple from every box after rep 4.
>>
>get guard broken
>2 bars of health gone

PK is so fair and balanced and not AE Yun levels of braindead cancer, no way no how.
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>>172001163
Get stubborn.
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>>172001667
>AE Yun
Don't ever bring that thing up again
>>
>>172001681
I don't understand. Do you just mean bite the pillow and keep going?
>>
Has anyone else gotten a micro delay since the connectivity patch? It used to run fine and I could parry most things reliably, but now things feel muddled. For example, when I parry with Shugoki the enemy has time to block my light attack follow up which I never remember happening before the patch. Everything I do seems to be a bit delayed now
>>
>Dominion for order
>"Very High" activity
>duels/brawls lower

Why? 4v4s are garbage.
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>>172001808
Vanilla Sagat
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>>172001954
Pick a main and stick with it.
>>
>>172002138

Fuck you.
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>>172002138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEFnH0Fu-e4
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Ever wish you could record something as soon as it happens, but completely forgot to highlight it?

>just fighting a PK
>beat her match before
>decide to play LB just cause
>Kills me a few times with light spam "wow how are *you* rep 10?"
>"lolol so bad"
>last round, 2-2, she zone spams,I take the hit and parry her follow up light
>AD MORTEM
>does it again
>AD MORTEM
>Impale execute
>left the session
>>
>>172002206
>>172002207

Is this a meme from the cesspit that is /fgg/?
>>
>>172002097
It's fun and it's easier to git gud at ganking than to actually get good.
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>>172002029

Daubeny please help me. I can't play the game anymore until I can get this fixed
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>>172002138
>people always bring up Vanilla Sagat and not Vanilla Akuma or Seth

If vanilla SFIV had a longer life those two characters would have utterly dominated every single tournament.
>>
>>172002391
Vanilla wasn't vortex hell
>>
>>172002334
Sagar from the original version of Street Fighter IV was insanely strong, arguably one his strongest incarnations ever. That's saying something.
>>
>>172002195
I try, but I just can't seem to find whether the Kensei or Warden feel better to play. I know that Warden I'd better, but that's not too big of a thing for me as how a character feels.
>>
>>172002440
It was going to be until Super came out. Vanilla Akuma and Vanilla Seth were absolutely ridiculous even without the vortex. Sagat just had high damage.
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>>172002097
Duels/brawls you run into complete fags a lot more often in my opinion
>Play a heavy in a duel, if you're gonna win the fag will literally run in circles around the map to get a draw instead
>People nonstop using cheap shit in duels because you have no teammate to stop them (wardens shoulder, warlord headbutt)
>Brawl faggots will instantly run to gank if they start losing or camp ledges/bridges as Warlord and Shugoki
>Brawls people will hide behind "honor" except when it's a tie breaker round and they'll gank the shit out of you
Also brawls get a shit ton more hatemail
>>
>>172002704

There are definitely a lot of sassy bitches in duel/brawl. I play this one dude and he beats me, then we rematch. I never say anything unless I'm responding. Next match when I'm winning he says I'm a whore suddenly. I can always tell the'll be like that when they're spinning their attack direction and running back and forth out of lock on. I love it when they get mad
>>
>>172002334

Pre-dates /fgg/ and indeed /vg/.
Maybe even /v/. I don't remember.

Sagat was fucking PK levels of cancer in Vanilla.
>>
>>172003036

I dont really play fighting games For honor is like the 1st major one Im getting into
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>>172003036
You're pushing it really hard there my friend. Sagat is like Warlord and Akuma was like PK.
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>>172003036
PK can't do 650 damage off an anti-air.
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>>171993480
Orochi is a one trick pony. Block the attack you have more trouble with (for me it's AoE), then parry his other attack. They'll usually start doing a top feint into guard break, so if you feel they're going that route just follow through with your top heavy. You have to make reads like that to survive any Assassin matchup.
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>>172003124
Sagat had
>Long ass reach in every normal
>Instant moves with priority
>Fireballs out of the ass
>Shoots more than fucking Megaman
>TIGER KNEE
>TIGER UPPARCUHT
>Insane damage output in various combo openers
>Capcom backing him up and not releasing patches for IV unless it's a ultra deluxe hyper blaster edition championship edition edition

Zangief was also bull shit but nobody mentions him no more.
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>>172001808
>AE Yun was braindead shit
>AE 2012 Yun was actually a very balanced character
>Ultra Yun went back to braindead shit thanks to his buffs and Capcom's poor implementation of RFC
>Sagat just go shittier and shitter even after his deserved nerfs going into Super

Fuck you Capcom.
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>>172003426
>that one time bonchan used yun instead of sagat
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>>172003378
Gief, Akuma, and Seth were all fucking ridiculous, people only remember Sagat because Vanilla Sagat is a fucking meme.
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They need to fix elimination, because playing with pussies is so fucking frustrating. I just went up against an entire team of faggots who would instantly abandon their fights to grab buffs, and instantly run away the second they start losing to get health. This shit is fucking nonsense
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All these fighter people coming in over FH.

Wew. I miss the days when FH was ruled by DS fags who couldn't frame perfect predict /read shit.
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>>172003528
>Oh boy it's Zangief time
>Are you close? ATOMIC BUSTAHR
>Are you spamming proyectiles? Green Slap into ATOMIC BUSTAHR
>Are you trying to mix up me? Hyper armor gold into ATOMIC BUSTAHR
>Want to aerial kick me? Lariat into ATOMIC BUSTAHR
>Combos? lol Lariat is my combo, finishes with ATOMIC BUSTAHR
>Are you away? doesn't matter, my ATOMIC BUSTAHR grabs 2 bodies afar
>Spacing me? Lariat is invul against proyectiles and has the priority of a Shoryuken, and you won't guess what comes ne- ULTIMATE
>ATOMIC
>BUSTAHR

A friend played Zangief with the 3punches macro only online and won like 80% of the matches
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Is there a way to block players? I'm so fucking sick of playing elimination with faggots who leave and crash the game because they don't want to lose, and then seeing them again in the next game I get into.
It just happened to me, a level 4 Warden never got a kill on our team, he leaves and the whole game crashes. Next game he's on my team. I don't want to play with these faggots who will happily crash games to preserve their precious win/loss ratio
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>>172004065
>Lariat into SPD
what
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>>172003147

Warlord is a better analogy, yeah.
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>Facing an Orochi as Lawbringer
>All he has to do is swap between his zone and top light
>Due to the indicator bug there is literally no way I can tell which direction his attack is actually coming from
>My stance change is so slow that if I guess wrong, even for less than a second, I lose

Amazing.
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>>172004354
Power Rangers SPD?
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>>172004776
Spinning Pile Drive
Did he use to be able to combo lariat into his command grab?
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>>172004776

How do you even make that association?
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>Play an assload of dominion as Kensei
>Switch over to duels
>Get annihilated game after game

Dominion has spoiled me and turned me into irredeemable garbage.
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>>172004652

>knowingly pick a trash-tier
>whine about being trash-tier

...
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>guy gets mad when I attack him because he goes afk in the middle of a fight

?
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>>172004652
I usually just go super fucking aggro in sheer frustration and it ends up throwing the orochi off
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>>172005068
>hurr hurr muh tiers

Fuck off faggot. Fighting Roaches as Law is a nightmare
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>>172005068
Have you ever faced a Conquerer that has his defensive meta on? Ever? I'd pick roach than Conq.
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>>171996859
I know. But it's just that Orochis that spam those attacks are so few and far that it always tilts the shit out of me and I fuck up basic moves.
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>>172005068
I'm more annoyed about how EVERY SINGLE OROCHI PLAYS EXACTLY THE SAME. They NEVER deflect, they never dodge. They just stand there, block you, and do the unblockable fuckzone attack and instant double overhead over and over and over. This isn't an issue as anyone but Lawbringer, because he has absolutely no way to prevent it. What's more is that his stance changes are so slow that he literally can't defend from their attacks unless he double-predicts whether it's a real attack or a bugged zone attack.

Orochis always do "le epic cool naruto darkness walk" too. Without fail. As if hitting the exact same buttons over and over makes them Sasuka Uchiha.
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>>172005187
Centurion
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I want to give LB a try. Any tips? I read somewhere that shove can combo into AD MORTEM or something? Just treat me like a retard, tell me everything you know
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>>172005462
Do their unblockables they get from deflect just parry bait or do they all just never go for deflect?
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>>172005187

PK
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>>172005742
Shove can't combo Ad Mortem. Your options are to parry and that's about it. You can confirm an Ad Mortem off a light parry, and a grab off any other parry. Those are your options. If your enemy is incredibly slow or particularly braindead, you can get a NO SUPERSTES off on them for a single light confirm.

My advice would be to not do it and play someone better.
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>>172005462
Feel the pain of shugo where one of his main methods of damage, trading, is stopped by instant double top lights from orochi doing fucking 35 damage. always playing exactly like you described, god I hate roaches.
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>>172005742
lawbringer relies entirely on you outplaying the fuck out of your opponent with parries, guardbreaks, and feints
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>>172005840
I mean the zone is unblockable if you are playing LB, Raider or Nobushi and aren't superhuman at guesswork.
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>>172005904
I thought roaches were low tier?
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>>172005952
If you are facing an opponent that literally never parries (like a Roach, Conq or Nobushi) then you can't actually do much. Feints are worthless if your enemy refuses to react to them.
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Post yfw you parry a pk light
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>>172005187
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>>172006105
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>>172006070
They are low tier, but they are truly obnoxious little niggers that Shugo, Raider and LB can't really beat.
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>>172006095
then use everything else

>ultra defensive never attack meta
then you're fucked, just go get a sandwich or something
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>>172006164
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>>172005998
Roaches get unblockables off of deflect, has anyone ever seen them go for deflect into unblockable?
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>playing Warden, beat a LB without vortexing once, just making use of the shoulder and feinting it, tricking him up with it
>"LOOL VORTEXING FAGGOT NEEDS TO VORTEX TO WIN"
>tell him I didn't vortex him once multiple times, he just quits
what the fuck is wrong with these retards, using the shoulder bash, the main attack of my entire fucking kit, is now "vortexing"? How do these people breath
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>>172006237
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>>172006246
You deserve it honestly, if they get deflect just press r1. You either get insta hit with their quick attack or you fuck their deflect's unblockable since it takes goodd 1.5 seconds to happen.
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>>172006294
I think they're just salty that they still have to predict what you're going to do. Though he should've figured out if you were just shouldering and feinting it, but after facing countless wardens you just don't know whether they gonna vortex or not.
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>>172006070
Mid to low tier, they only have top light and zone attack. all the top tier characters shit on him with unpunishable guaranteed damage. Shugo has trouble against roach because he is able to minimize charge by staying close and double top light completely counters shugo armor.
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>>172006294
fuck shoulder charge
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>Go against a PK
>He never attacks
>Just fucking stands there
>When I do any sort of attack he dodges and hits me
>This is the entire game
>End up beating him because he fucking sucks anyway
>He complains that I'm not attacking so he can dodge and get a free hit on me

Gonna be honest, I am glad this game is dying. If Ubi don't want to fix anything, then it doesn't deserve to live. I doubt they care anyway.
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>>172006195

Shugo here
I have zero problems beating Roach consistently.

I'm not going to tell you how. Just use all your tools.
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>>172006294
The shoulder is blatantly overpowered though
>Most characters too slow to interrupt it
>You can actively cancel out of it to counter their counter
>It costs almost no stamina
>Even if they guess right when you use the shoulder there's no actual punishing it
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>>172006867
Are you retarded? Just feint and parry the resulting dodge attack.
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>>172006324
So there's no reason to go for it against a good player then.
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>>172006986
That's how I won, dumpass.
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>>172007076
Nope senpai. Never go for it unless opponent is a retard. So do it first time, if it connects keep going for it until they realize what you upto.
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>>172005742
No one will teach you the fundamentals better than Law. He's one of the few characters that doesn't spoil you with gimmicks, which is why I always recommend people get him to at least Rep 2 if they want to learn how to actually play this game optimally.

In neutral, your two options are shove and feint. From shove you can either predict a dodge and go for a GB or a heavy/feint. With a feint you can bait out a heavy for a parry, and if they counter-feint you can GB. Parrying a light combos directly into ad mortem. Parrying a heavy gets you a GB which gets you a side heavy which you can then follow up with a shove.
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>>172007328
>No one will teach you the fundamentals better than the character who gets most of his kills from the enviroment
LB is a massive fucking faggot most of the time. I can't tell you the number of times I'm playing elimination and he's the last one on the enemy team and he camps a bridge, REFUSING to leave it, even if it means he loses when the time runs out
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I feel bad for making a Kensei rage quit, but he quit as soon as I killed him with the Lawbringer's dumb skewer thing. It was fucking funny.
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>>172007664
>Playing Elim
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>>172007843
It's definitely the best 4v4 mode, and I play with two friends regularly, it's our only good choice if we want to group up
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>>172007979
I can't see any reason to play 4v4 unless you play with majority friends in the mode, but even then I find duel more fun
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>>172007732
Feel proud.
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Getting stuck in execution because someone disconnected is kinda BS.

Also anyone from SEA want to help a random anon out on how to parry lights? I just can't do them at all and it annoys me alot that I match up with people who can and fuck all my offense.
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>>172005187
PK
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>>172008289
I am from Australia. What's your name?
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>>171961189
*teleports behind u*
Pssh, nothing personal, kid
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>>171993381
>>171993271
>>171992754
Semi-afking in dominion vs AI is the fastest but you get the same reward no matter what your score is. The only difference is win or lose.
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>>172008547
No, your xp/steel gain is based on the score you get in the match as well.
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I'm so fucking tired of having to carry my team. Regularly I get paired with people who can't get more than 1-2 kills if they even get that, and it comes down to me to try winning a 1v4 when they all have buffs/shields.
Is there any form of matchmaking at all? I get paired with incompetent retards and the enemy team is always solid people who can hold their own
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>>172008646
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>>172008392
From India in game ID is JXerona, though I think Australia might be too far. We may get into yellow connection zone.

>>172008646
>Is there any form of matchmaking at all?
Who knows, it does says in settings, "Skill Level" but it means fuck all if it goes into "All Skill Levels" everytime and you can't manually set it to restricted.
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>>171961189
PSSHH, nothin' personnell, kiddo
*teleportation behind u*
BWAAAPPPP
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>>172008289
SAIGO NO BAKUDAN, BAITS DA DASTO
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>>172008987
>SAIGO NO BAKUDAN
Is this a meme, because it's
DAISAN NO BAKUDAN.
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>>172008709
It really is like that. I've averaging 10 or more kills in elimination matches while my team has between 0-3 at best.
It just gets fucking tiring. I can't win every single 1v4, especially when the enemy team has Lawbringers, Shugokis, or Valks to make my revenge useless.
>>172008726
Matchmaking is something they desperately need. Also they NEED to start punishing quitters. I'm so fucking sick of getting a low level faggot on my team who quits round one as soon as he dies because he's protecting his precious k/d
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>>172008726
>From India
POO
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>>172009218
>he's protecting his precious k/d

Personally, I rather have low k/d so maybe one day they'll add in matchmaking and I'll be matched up against actual people of my skill level. Instead of people who just "LOL PARRIED YOUR LIGHT, TOP HEAVIED" everytime.

You don't know how hard it is for me to see people complaining about Orochi, Lawbringer when I got people who just parry those zones like nothing. *gets top heavied*
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>>172009514
>Lawbringer
I meant Warden.
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>>171999383
Nothing because I'm lame and I like the way the music wells up near the end of a duel/brawl
>>
[SPOILERS] SPOOKY SKINS WHEN
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>>172010447
>tfw no samurai jack skin
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>>172000754
so if a little girl sings let it go in public it's cute but if i sing hellfire in public i need to leave?
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>>171971847
M-metaldad posted!
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>>171969152
Raider is all about timing. Playing him is like a dance, I know it sounds cliché but it's true for Raider at least. It's beyond satisfying to go against an assassin class like PK or Roachi and swing at the hair then when they go for the dodge in attack you've already got to Raider fury ready to meet them. Their only option is to not take the bait (they always take the bait) and play a strong defense. If they go hard for defense, Raider is still top tier because he can feint into light over head and get a gb 70% of the time. Or at least a regular hit.
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>>172009514
I don't care ultimately about my k/d because no one is perfect, I'm not gonna win every game.
But people need to be fucking punished for quitting to preserve their k/d because having a bot on your team in elimination is almost a guaranteed loss
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How do I guard break cancel?
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lewds when
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>>171970520
>get ganged up on by 4 snowapes all black as coal and playing berserkers
>team sucks
>last to die while they 4v1 me
>emote over my body
>send message saying gg
>invite me to the party
>mfw they're all niggers
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>>172009150
I'm not a weeb, sorry for the misspell
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>>172006158
>tfw no season 3
>>
>Can't parry attacks that are too slow because I'm hardwired against assassins
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>>172006158
>>172010952
What's this?
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>Two of Kensei emotes has him leaning on the tip of his sword
>all Japanese sword training says to never do this
>what does he mean by this?
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>>172011164
lawbringerthreatensclock.jpeg
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>>172005187
MISERO
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>>172011301
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_(TV_series)
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>>172005187
JINJOU NI SHOUBU
>>
Oh, I just realized how horrific it would be if Shove could wall splat. It would basically be the exact same as conq's wall>heavy shenanigans.
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>>172011331
TE SECABO!
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>>172011318
>being a literal weeb

gaijin shikuda na mae warudo
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>playing dominion
>enemy team has THREE fully revenge geras shukogis
>we can't outdamage them for fuck due to their massive defense

shukogis are fucking broken in dominion. no class is better for holding a point
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>>172011453
Good, let it wall splat. THE LAW needs SOMETHING.


Also call me a fag but I really wish there was a helmet for Lawbringer that had a hood like PKs do. I just have a thing for hoods.
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>>172005187
RAIDER
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>>172003260
>>171993480
Orochi has that glitch where he can do a light and a heavy at the same time from different directions. He can start a top light and immediately get the marker for a side heavy which lands as soon as he hits his second top light. It's impossible to defend against. Even if you parry one of the directions you still end up getting hit, and when it lands without you blocking or parrying at least one of the directions it does obsecene damage. 1/3 of your health gone from the equivalent of a single top light from Roachi.
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>>172011164
tfw you die to a lawbringer because you keep parrying too early
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>>172005187
LAWBROOOO
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>>171993916
It's not that bad. Just set everyone's stance change to the same speed.
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>>172005187
play warden f a m
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>>172011525
I'd rather have improvements that don't him a dick.

>Shove staggers the target allowing a free light.
>better stance change speed
>Light riposte does as much damage as a heavy so we don't have to GB>side heavy
>make way knocks down targets
>armor on heavies
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>>172011465
yeah it's gross, playing team games against geared shugs is super difficult. Even 1 shug plus a supporting team is strong as fuck
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>>172011318
All sword training literally anywhere in the world says to never do this.
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>>172011604
>their heavy is faster than mine so it hits me anyway even if they mess up the timing.

Actually now that i think about it, i don't heavy out of nowhere generally.
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>>172006149
>playing LB
>PK goes all 2fast4u
>gave up trying to react and just spastically hitting stance change, dodge, and heavy
>mfw parry a light and shove her off a cliff
>>
What the fuck Ubisoft? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELxN0KgCL9w&feature=youtu.be

Why isn't this helmet available right now? Please don't tell me they're going to add it with the new season.
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>>172012609
future dlc, steelgoy
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>>172012642
pls no
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>>172006868
You guard break him don't you?
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>rep 25 Conq
>max stamina reduction
>endless shield bash/guard break 50/50's
>macro to infinite loop off of heavy bashes with soft feints
>body count, shield basher, heal on block, max execution health
>camps one objective all game
>pops max defense revenge in two blocks
>tornados you infinitely
>>
Why are top tier fags such fucking cunts. Every single player that plays only top tier characters always taunt spam, chat spam, message you and overall play really shitty. What is it about top tier that makes these players literal cancer.
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>>172013203
I once had two 108 gear shugokis who just camped an objective and would cover each other's asses so tightly you'd think they were fucking. Oni charges, bow and arrow shots, everything.

Best thing was: if you managed to fight them one on one, they were shit.
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>>172013394
And people say revenge is broken.
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>>172013482
Oh, that too. Plus trying to damage them was like trying to destroy a tank with a butter knife.
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I swear if i lose to one more fucking broken pk who taunt spams me and then leaves im going kms
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>>172012969
THE STIFF ARM OF THE LAW SHUTS DOWN ENEMY TEAM'S BLITZ PLAY WITH THIS SPECIAL TRICK
>>
>Get a match
>Peacekeeper or Warlord
>Alt-F4

I ain't dealing with this shit.
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>>172013203
>we're up 4 to 2 in Dominion
>both teams are breaking
>nothing can be done if any points are taken
>tell my team to just chill since they have to come to us, we have numbers
>two of them rush the Rep 3 Conqueror and Rep 7 Peacekeeper and die almost instantly
>other dude on my team runs over there
>dies
>I sit at mid farming soldiers because gg
>"dude what the fuck are you doing, you just lost this game for us bro"
>I'm 11-3 with 250 more points than him
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>>172013830
What are the counters to Warlord?
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>>172013887
>what are the counters to Warlord
LOL
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>go up against Warlord PK as Shugoki and paired with an Orochi
>monster the Warlord
>PK is talking a ton of shit
>2-2, start the bear hug critical on the Warlord
>PK hops in and backstabs me, spewing more buzzwords in chat

Now I get why there's an option to disable the chat, the Knight community (minus Lawbros) are all complete cunts.
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>>172013949
Lawbringer players are the worst.
t. Lawbringer
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>>172013830
>what is conqueror
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>>172005187
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>>172005187
Law
Now watch this four
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>>172014029
This.
>hurr I'm justified in abusing glitches because my character is slightly worse than others
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>>172014029
They can't be worse than PKs. The community that dredges up tiny non-issues to try and justify their class being one of the most oppressive forces in the meta. I'd take the worst of the unlocking fags any day of the week.
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>>172013875
>>tell my team to just chill since they have to come to us, we have numbers
I have lost so many games, elimination and dominion, when we had the numbers advantage and my retard teammates run in to die to someone camping a ledge
>Playing elimination
>It's 3v1
>Enemy is a Lawbringer just camping a narrow fucking bridge emoting nonstop
>One teammate instantly rushes over just to get hit by the Laws shove and go off the bridge
>The other one, seeing this shit runs in and has the exact same shit happen
>The round ends as a draw because the Lawbringer refuses to leave the bridge and I'm not dumb enough to try fighting him on it
Thankfully the next round the same thing happened and my team learned their goddamn lesson and didn't follow him
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>>172013887
Shugoki
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>>172012969
>mfw anyone mentions deja vu
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>>172013930
>>172014394
I didn't mean classes. I meant tactics.
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>>172014345
>not running in and then dashing backwards away from the shove
>not then punishing him by throwing him off

sounds like you're the shitter here
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>>172014094
The man has spoken
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>>172014506
>Ever taking a risk on a ledge when you don't have to
People play mindgames all the time on ledges. For all I know I could have ran in and back dashed just for him to GB and be unable to tech it because I just dashed.
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>Load into elimination
>Entire enemy team is running away from their fights round fucking one to grab buffs/gank
>They do this every single round
We barely won, but my god that was the least fun fucking game I've ever played. Powerups should not be spawned in right away because it just encourages that shit
>>
>just had several incredibly good brawl rounds as Nobushi

Fuck, it feels so good to just completely rip people new ones and they're powerless to stop it, either too slow to react or they start panicking.

>heavy -> kick or whiffed heavy -> kick -> bleed follow-up -> dodge heavy -> kick -> bleed follow-up -> dodge heavy

more than half of their health gone

once they wise up to the dodge heavy switch it for the dodge light and they don't know what the fuck to do because as soon as I dodge they have to hope they read quick enough from either direction to block what I'm about to do

and if they start to anticipate and try parrying I just don't do it and then I parry their attempted parry

earned like, 6 rage-quits tonight
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>>172014579
No balls.
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>>172014716
>No balls because you didn't rush onto a bridge against the character that can go 0-100mph impaling people off ledges
I'd rather play it smart and win
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>>172014457
quitting
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>>171999383
De Bello Gaulica
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>Meet Nice bunch of people in Brawl
>LB and Warden
>Clearly Warden is low rep and trying new class.
>They lose but it was good game anyways.
>Next match, I pick LB instead of Nobushi.
>They are Warlord and PK.
>Rep 10+ each.
>Quit match.
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>>172015323
>Load into a 4v4 match
>We're in the loading screen
>My team is all rep 1 or below grey/blue gear people
>Enemy team is full of rep 10s 108 gear, PK, Warlord, Warden, Conq
>One by one my teammates quit while we're still in the loading screen
I don't blame them. Personally I quit if I have two bots on my team before we even load into the game
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>>172015530
I also instantly quit if someone picks warlord or PK, unless I know for a fact that they are brand new and don't know how to abuse the characters.
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>>172015530
>dominion lobby
>my team
>four 108's
>enemy team
>one 108, three grays
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>>172015763
If I'm that one 108 I'll fucking quit. I know I'm going to have a bad fucking time if I stay
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>>172014029
No, fuck no. Lawbringer players are bad, but the worst are by far Berserker. Any "good" Berserker player you will see just mashes light attacks and nothing else. They'll feint into GB every once in a while before just going back to mashing. I have never once seen somebody play that character that wasn't a massive fucking faggot, and the people that play him constantly go on about how he's one of the worst characters in the game when his wallbounces get two bars and he has so many gimmicks.
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>>172014103
Are you talking about soft feinting?

Cause almost nobody actually does that.
>>
>Play against some guy.
>His lights hit lightning fast and I am unable to block them at all. (zerk)
>Pick nobushi just because
>he parries all my lights.
>he parries all mixups.

How do I transform into this kind of robot?
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>>172016119
what even is soft feinting?
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>>172016119
No, his unlocked attack off of shove. Soft feinting is retarded too but at least it requires some skill to pull off
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>>172016073
Raiders too. Raider has a lot of good tools and mixups but they'll constantly cry about MUH 22 FRAME GUARD
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>>172016219
An exploit in the game where the enemy sees the attack coming from one direction but it actually comes from another.
>>
So i'm late to the party when it comes to gear. What level do you get the gear level stuff that upgrades you to 108?
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>>172016232
Oh, that. That actually does require decent timing to pull off, although not as strict as soft feinting, and it doesn't really do any damage at all.

I tried a few times when I first picked up lawbringer but I couldn't seem to do it, and I never tried again, and I don't think I've ever seen a lawbringer use it before.

>>172016219
Feinting something you shouldn't be able to feint. Feinting a light attack into something else, feinting a GB into something else, or in lawbringer's case, feinting a no superstes into something else.
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>>172016409
Rep 3.

Although if you want to save some steel, wait until rep 4-5 to buy crates/upgrade gear.

The gear you get as rep 3 can be upgraded to level 18, the max level, to get you to 108, but the gear you get from being rep 4-5 starts off a level or two higher, so you don't have to upgrade as much, saving some steel.
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>>172016376
You have to remember that soft feinting specifically starts a new animation entirely, unlike conq heavy bug or zone attack bugs which show a ghost indicator/animation. Its a good deal less bullshit and, a lot less consistant
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So what makes Warlords so hard for you all? I never have any particular issues with them?
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>>171990128
yes
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>>172017048
Has Light Hit Confirm from headbutt with good tracking.
Have to dodge headbutt at perfect timing.
He can ledge you 7ft in any direction after parry.
He can drain your entire stamina bar after a parry. (I could never do this as WL. He went for grab always)
He has superior block properties on all lights.
He has Hyper armor on all heavies so can't trade.
All Block, and very fast lights in general.
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>>172011318

He's not leaning on it, just resting his hand on it.
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>>172017048
Parry windows are all over the place with warlord
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>>172017220

What are superior block properties and how does hyper armor work?
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Doesn't nobushi's running attack count as light? I parried that shit but didn't got free GB for ledge.

The one with bleed effect.
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>>172017457
It's basically he can block while attacking in same direction. Useful if you don't want to commit a parry.

Just like Dark Souls If he's going for Heavy and you go for heavy, his attack with stagger you while he keeps his momentum. Even if you hit him quickly with light his heavy still connects because he hyper armored through it.
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>>172017524

You are very kind, thanks
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>>171964738
wrong. take some history classes, any century will do
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>>171967396
shugoki can poop on him pretty bad
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>>172005187
All Knight classes.
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>>171993916
arent valks lights just as fast as hers?
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I got my Lawman to Rep 10 and can finally rest. With this peace comes the realization that this game will not get better. I'm done /fhg/.
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>>172001808
>omega gen

i know it wasnt ranked but god that was funny
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>>172019086
bye
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>be shugoki main
>start doing backbreaker when i throw someone down and they fall
>havnt missed one except when i do it too early

is this guaranteed? can they not dodge it? im assuming they cant since the iframes arent instant
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>Raider & Shugoki Vs Raider & Shugoki
The first fun brawl match I had this week
>>
Why the fuck can't I parry Valkyrie since the patch?
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>>172019653
cuz u bad
Her first attack is fast but her second light is 18f, same as most other characters.
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>>172019675

I don't know man. I took a week break between the connectivity patch, and I swear now I can't parry anyone as well as I could before. Think it fucked up my latency just slightly and threw my timing off. It's infuriating
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>>172019653
>>172019830
they reduced the recovery on her light attacks, so they do hit you faster now
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>Try to GB Valk after a parry but my LB cant reach her
>She does that perfectly well from any distance
>sometimes people cancel my GB right after parry
I'm legit interested WHAT THE FUCK
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>>172020249
Debuff resistance bug
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>>172020343
I'm playing duel
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WHY THE FUCK IS DOMINION UNPLAYABLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>172005187
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>PK, Valk and Orochi bots play exactly like real players
>even playing with bots, the can only run around and try and fuck up 1v1s for both friend and foe
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>>171999383
Should I just stop playing weebs and having something resembling honor and fighting fairly just to play LB with Hellfire effects on fucking everything and listen to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M
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>For Honor has 3k less players than Souls on the weekend
Sad!
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>>172020924
nah, pk bot spams heavies and gbs too much
valk almost never sweeps
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>>172021246
i had a bot warden vortex me yesterday
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>>172005187
Nobushi!
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>>172019608
They CAN dodge it unless you throw them, either backstepping or sidestepping enough and putting enough distance between you.
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>>172021226
>an actual human being came to a thread about a game he probably doesn't even play just for (negative) attention

Genuinely depressing
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>>172021274
he does not do a real vortex
he is programmed to read your inputs, so it's cancer
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>>172005187
Peacekeeper.

Because I really don't care.
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>>172005187
main this
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What kind of fucking bullshit is this? Both green ping, yet the fucker is warping towards me and my game is lagging like shit. I swear some of these fuckers are only high level because they lag the opponent to death
>>
>>172021315
I play it though
>>
>>172021562
Ubisoft tries really hard to hide bad connections rather than fixing them
>>
>>172021709

I like this game but I'm getting REALLY FUCKING ANNOYED because they broke it for me. It used to run fine, now I can't even fucking parry people and a fourth of the time they're warping towards me or hitting me even though it showed I blocked on the screen. Been trying to find answers from Ubisoft but the fucking cunts won't say anything or even try to fix it
>>
I'm really of what will happen when Lawbringer gets buffed

I don't want a new Warlord
>>
>>172021779
Blocking doesn't interrupt his strings and he has valk recovery on everything
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>>172021779

Whiners want him to confirm a light off Shove, not realizing that it will literally turn him into Warlord.
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>>172021887
>but le law man xd
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>>172021887
no, his shove is slow as fuck
light out of it would be fine
tho i want him to be able to start an unblockable heavy after shove
>>
>>172021887
How about you give fucking everyone something to break a guard. The thing Warlord, Conq and to an extend Warden have is something everyone should have, not something you should remove.
>>172022024
Shove goes in all directions though and can be used from a dodge etc. it would be the same as conq's shieldbash and that one is universally hated already as well. No infinite (aka 2 times until stamina is gone) wall combo though of course.
>>
>>172022130
>every assassin is now literally unstoppable
>>
>elmination is "high activity"
>can't find a match

great getting these new contracts done
>>
>>172022130
This. >>172022185
Assassins don't need to be buffed.
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>>172022703
roach and berserk are weak tho


zerker kit addition:
>shoulder bash after a forward dash
>does not confirm anything, drains stamina, acts as a combo starter
>bash after a heavy hit is armored and confirms into a light, also wall stuns
>heavy bash after deflect

roach kit addition:
>backdash meme slash
>can be canceled into a bash, that confirms something
>>
>>172022917
>make the game into even more of a shitty guessing game
>>
>>172022987
>leave the game as a shitty staring contest
>>
>>172023087
Yeah real fighting games only work because you can cancel everything into unblockables
>>
>>172022917
>backdash meme slash
like they don't have that already, you just mean to buff it.
>can be canceled into a bash that confirms something
so light attacks from different angles are near unstoppable

i'll stick with my ability to cancel and the timing of 'my enemy is about to attack, release the button'
>>
>Headbutt costs 3x the stamina
>Missing a headbutt and getting hit within 1 second after that makes you take increased damage
Fixed??
>>
>team in elimination cannot defeat their opponent for the life of them
>this inevitable results in a 4v1 because my team is shit

goddamn this game mode
>>
>>172022917
K.
>>
>Warlord can tech in full block stance
>Warlord can not cancel being stunned with full block

>Conqueror can not tech in full block stance
>Conqueror can cancel being stunned with full block

It's like they accidentally balanced that.
>>
>>172023161
Orochi's backdash attacks are pretty useless because everything you could use it against is easily parriable
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>Zerker tries to bait me into hole
>Throw him in
>Quits

Lots of rage quits today.
>>
>>172022917
>turn zerk into mini conk
>>
>>172024630
Had an LB rq when I was executing them even though he was on the stacked team and mine had no chance of winning
>>
>>172024209
I dont think anynody cares about faction war anymore, buddy
>>
>>172025294
I definitely don't. The difference between coming in first or third is 1k steel worth of salvage boxes
>>
>>172025193
LB is not a cancerous class but its players sure as fuck are cancer
>>
>>172025509
I havent even open any boxes. Was saving it for when I make some hero pres 3, but didnt even get that far.
>>
>>171986057
thats him rage quiting, there are no servers
>>
>>172025615
Yeah the typical LB is just as bad as the the other characters people shit on for having annoying players
>>
>suck at every fighting game I have ever touched
>decide to get For Honor anyway because it isn't strictly 1v1 and the beta was pretty fun
>still suck
>can't parry
>can't GBC
>even miss blocking sometimes
>don't remember combos
>lose and lose and lose
>decide to try peacekeeper
>still can't parry
>still can't GBC
>doesn't matter, win anyway
>constantly, even
>don't even have to know any combos or know how to block, just dodge and light/zone spam for days

thanks ubisoft for creating a character which even a cretin like myself can get into playing.
>>
Peaceshitter nerf when?
>>
>>172022917
What if you give zerk a counter parry that he gains nothing except also draining the opponent's stamina and reset to neutral?
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>wow that's so cheap how could anyone ever possibly beat me and my revenge build

- every single warlord who lost ever

and people think PK mains are cancerous
>>
>>172026557
Disregard this post I gave it some thought and I don't even know how it would work.
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>>172026670
PK main detected
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>>172026737
My highest rep is kensei but dont have a main
>>
>>172026670
I'd much rather rather fight a Warlord than a PK.
>>
>>172026557
>>172026690
basically thing warlords headbutt, but no follow up
stamina drain is good for zerker since he then could start his combos safer
and bash after a ehavy hit, think conq, would give the light hit (like after parrying), same after a deflect
>>
>>171996596
Rolling is the only surefire way out, otherwise you need to make GUESS like a real FIGHTING GAME
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>>172002391
>Seths vanilla j.hp
>>
Ever have a teammate so bad you wonder if they're trying to throw the game on purpose?
>>
>>172027451
I sometimes play the game in sillyways to have fun and mess with people. It usually results in loosing the match. So yeah Im sure some people had teamates like that.
>>
>>172027751
>trapping all the entrances to a control point
>then watching them run the gauntlet
>fireflask if they make it through

Just berserker things.
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>Skirmish orders
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>Roll Sword and Board whenever possible
>My choice is #1 in this game
Make no mistake though, I give no fuck. Time to rock as long as anyone is still playing
>>
They will never nerf peacekeeper because it will cause a drop in the playerbase when peacekeeper players have to meet the game the way everyone else has to play it
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>Run into a guy
>He's pretty impressed by my ability to consistently parry, dodge, guard break counter and punish
>Teach him a few things
>Let him practice parrying and GBC, testing out a few heroes
>We do this for around an hour, maybe more
>Realise it's past midnight
>Call it a night
>He actually thanks me

Fuck, I love being a good person. Teaching people how to play, even though I am pretty mediocre, is really satisfying.
>>
>>172028298
I know that feel

>like the concept of fast attacking, high risk character
>closest match is PK or roach

I play PK anyway, despite the salt.
>>
>>172029000
Or they move to conq or warlord
>>
>cant find a match in dominion

who'da thunk it
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>>172029087
good job anon, i love teaching people new stuff.
too bad for one good encounter there are at least 10 shitty ones
>>
>>172029000
trips confirm

>>172029283
they are nerfing warlord and conq tho
>>
Can the Shugoki be guard broken out of his knockdown run even if his armor is up? I saw a Kensei do it twice and assume it is a guardbreak or a move speic to him.
>>
>>172030138
yes, characters who do not have a speacial gb move while sprinting can gb him every time
>>
>>172030138

It happened to me once. I missed him with the run and the fucker guardbroke me from the side during the run.
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>>172021438
Better yet, this.
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>>172029087
Can you really call yourself a good person if you need to go and tell people how good of a person you are?
>>
>Still this thread
lol
If you want to be Katawa Shoujo General tier, you are close.
>>
>>172029545
Oh right forgot about that, balance patch when?
>>
>>172030262

thanks doc
>>
are the servers fucked? I've been kicked the the title screen three times now losing connection to ubisoft servers
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>tfw you wish they would nerf PK because you actually want to main her but don't want to be a shitter using a severely broken class
How the fuck haven't they nerfed her already? She's one of the biggest memes in the game.
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It's nice to have a supportive team!
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>>172031259
same brah. I like every aspect of her except how easy she is to play
>>
>>172031313
>LB

didn't even watch
>>
>>172031447
Buttflustered baddie spotted
>>
>>172031259
devs are balancing the game by overall global winrates rather than the high level meta, how fucked is that?

so because some retard PK's that are terrible at the game play it's keeping her winrates in check and preventing her from being nerfed
>>
>>172032357

Thanks for giving a perfect example why nobody likes LB players
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>>172031313
Shame it wasn't a Conq. Still great.
>>
>>172032389
Guaranteed that's where the mind-numbing "Raider is a PK killer" shit came from too, because against awful players who are only just starting with her, yeah probably because all it takes is a raider going heavy, heavy, unblockable and she's dead.
>>
>>172032396
Not an LB player, they're one of my lowest down in the dumps with PK and conq, but this revisionist fagmastery people have been on lately is stupid looking.
>>
>>172032580
LB players have been annoying since day 1.
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>>172032396
I love Lawbros
>Raider main
Raider and law players should be bros
>>172032495
>as a raider main this triggers me.
I'd say im pretty good as Raider >le top 2% in FHtracker. But against an experienced PK i swear i never have a chance
>>
migr8 whenev
>>172032698
>>172032698
>>172032698
>>172032698
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