/fhg/ - For Honor General

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LB players all die

PLAYERS OF VIABLE CLASSES ARE ALL SHIT LOL
BRO IT UP LAW&RAIDER BROS
!!!!!!!!!

xth for living happily ever after with my wife Nobushi
t.Warden

Reminder that all PKers cant really play the game

>>172032772
>being such a pussy that you can't main a decent character because you won't have an excuse for losing
I agree, like fucking Dan mains

>>172032816
>he's never run into a tier whore PK main who's also good at the game

It's not fun

I want to hold hands with Femwarden!

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>>172032772
Re-posting from least bread
I love Law Bros. Law & Raider players should be a broship. the most underappreciated classes

>elimination
>enemy team plays the honor game
>my team sucks, I'm left 4v1, but I wipe out the enemies after back to back duels
>they stop playing nice and start ganking me
top kek
if you can't handle losing don't even bother trying to be honorable

>>172032942
If someone plays PK it automatically means they arent good at the game

>>172032985
If anything people over appreciate you fucking wastes of life.

>>172032837
Dan was actually legit as fuck at times though and playing only M-MUH LEY EPIB TOP TIER is for actual no fun having niggers.

>>172033210
>Getting your ass whooped over and over again by any competent player because your character is garbage tier
>Fun
lol ok

>>172033390
It's legitimately more fun to lose an interesting fight than play the same brain melting flowchart shit at top tier.

>>172033150
All i get as a Raider main is
>Raider cant do shit in duel and brawl
or
>Raider is too heavy to play
or some shit like that

>The faggots that have all sprung up lately trying to push this retarded narrative against more middling or low classes

Spotted the assblasted PKs mad about being rightfully called on their shitter status since day 1.

Valk shouldn't be able to sweep off whiffed attacks desu

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7 Decides what character/characters I main

>>172033763
should be able to jump over sweep desu

>>172033081
Met yesterday 15 prestige pk who knew his shit right and wasnt bad at the game.
Literally zero counterplay, he just camped our spawn and got my health down to 60% already when my camera didnt even zoomed into my hero after respawn. Someone else respawns - boom, revenge. That was a fucking joke.
Most of them relies on revenge in 4v4 modes and they spam without even feinting and mixing up. But if you meet someone who's actually not retarded at the game there is literally nothing you can do even 1v1.

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>>172033804
LEGENDARY RAIDER

I stopped playing this game after the first week. Except for the Valkyrie buff are there some other big changes?

I just want to do my orders ubi

it's bad enough that it takes minutes to find a game at noon on a weekend and now i can't even finish a game without it kicking everyone out

>>172033804
LMAO 2AXE

>>172033819
berserker flip should jump over sweep desu

>parry assassin light attack
>they turn around and run

>>172034097
>Round starts
>PK/Roach immediately runs

Woopee, time for another one of these matches

>>172033804
THE LAW

what do i do against sidestep spam?
I really have no clue

>>172033538
>lawbringer
>interesting
his moveset is dogshit

>>172034170
GB or wait and parry

>>172034170
Guardbreak unless they're one of the faggots with a might-as-well-be-instant side attack which you know they probably are.

>>172033804
zerker

>>172034201
See now you're just being way too blatant about how your babbymode LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT class has rotted your brain, LB suffers from the inverse issue as raider, he has plenty of tools and shit to use, he just gets nothing out of them on his own most of the time. Feel free to stop being retarded any time shitter.

>>172033804
YOU TOOK AN OATH

>>172034219
>>172034245
Ok so just getgud?
GB somehow never works

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>>172033804

>>172034340
>shove
accomplishes nothing
>unblockable
piss easy to dodge/parry
>long arm
piss easy to dodge/parry

you will literally only win against bads

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reminder that this is fine
if you did not block/parry her 1st zone it's your own fault that you can't reset the block fast enough

>>172034340
I love Raider

>>172034558
>Being so garbage that you can't win solely off of parry bops and occasional well placed GBs for side heavies

>>172034558
are you talking about law or raider?

>>172034734
Same, I was just illustrating the problem with LB. Raider has truckloads of damage, he's just limited on what he can actually get that damage off of. LB has a bunch of tools that he gets no significant damage from.

>>172034632
>Flickers every single Zone
PK mains ladies and gents

>>172034895
I can agree with that

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>>172034785
>using a class that has to use parryable moves

>>172034453
GB wont if they're attacking because FH isn't a fighting game so it doesn't have a throw. So you're forced to turtle and just parry everything on reaction

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>>172034632
reminder that if you die to revenge
it's your own fault bacause generating revenge takes skill

i am done with gear modes, until they fix that shit

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>>172035261
>sees the opponent has revenge
>attacks anyway because every warden is a braindead piece of shit constantly on autopilot

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>>172035370
>opponent gets revenge at the tail end of the shoulderbash after the lights have already been input

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>>172035527
>whaa whaa my autoderp gameplay didn't work 1 time in a mirror

>>172035591
so gearscore revenge stats are fine is what you are saying?

im not the guy who posted the WEBM btw, your statement was just completely wrong

>>172035668
If gearstats fuck over warden players like that then yes I'd say ubisoft did a fine job.

>>172035370
>>172035591
>anime poster
did not expect much anyway

>>172035745
what class do you main exactly? you wouldn't happen to be an epic lawbro would you?

Someone needs to edit one of those nature videos of rams playing charge chicken, except with wardens doing their discount messatsu shoulder slides at each other over and over.

>>172035747
Epic reddit meme my friend, I'm sure you'll go far in life.

>>172035793
>maining

Sorry did I open league of faggots general by accident?

>>172035850
>pseudo-fighting game
>not having a best class
alright what is your highest level class you semantic faggot

>>172035850
Not even them but

>Not having at least a character or two you more primarily focus on

Boy I hope you never plan on playing 4v4 modes with your unsatisfactory revenge gain rate.

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>>172035939
>give me more fuel for my underage arbitrary delusions

>>172036056
>warden is for faggots
>who do you main
>n-not telling
epic redditbringer detected, for the win my bro!

>>172035745
>being mad at warden
maybe its time to get good?

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>>172036142
>everyone who laughs at a shitty warden getting punished for autopiloting must be [specific type of person who only plays a specific character]

>>172034895
>>172035021
One is the estranged son to the other, or they're brothers

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>>172036056
>>172036142
Your both faggots, stop falling for each others obvious bait.

>>172036340
BROTHERS BORN FROM THE GODS

>>172036351
I don't remember anyone asking this slut their opinion

>>172036437
The real question is, which one is the older brother and which one is the younger?

>>172036335
You are bad at the videogame For Honor.

>>172034558
>Parry light
>RIP 2 bars
Really its your own fault you can't parry

>>172036713
There's no proof of that, unlike >>172035261

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>>172032772
>play LAW because he looks cool af and forces me to get good at the game
>people hate LAW for literally no reason

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>>172036819
>he is still mad
>complains about warden
there is your proof that you are bad

>>172033804
SHUG BOIS UP IN HERE. Protect Shug Town(point C) from all invaders.

>>172036834
People hate the players and playing LB wont make you good

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>>172037008
you do know that your character revolves around a guessing game right?

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>>172037008
>laugh at someone being stupid
>wow why are you so mad

Should have said "salty" instead if you really wanted to be a master baiter.

>>172037091
Neither will PK or Conq though.

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>>172037037
fug

>>172037091
>still no reason for hate
Who will I get good with, then?

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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club

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>get matched against a rep10 PK
>parries every light I throw

yeah, okay.

>>172037927
So is it 'Metal' the material, or 'Metal' the music genre? Or something else entirely?

Is it both? Is our Ferrous Lord also a Hard Rocker?

>>172037989
I wouldn't be surprised if PKs were the most common people using shit like auto parry hacks too.

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>>172037989
>get matched against a Rep 15 PK
>her NAT goes red whenever she gets hit
>everyone else in the match is green

That's when I stopped playing 4v4 for another week.

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>>172036351
updated a bit

>>172038056
Its the genre. I grew up on things like metalica and dimmu borgir.

>>172038076
stonehead, the pk that won uses them on regular games

I fucking hate this game.

IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR AN OPONENT WITH GREEN NAT, I AM FUCKING SICK OF THESE PHANTOM HITS.

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>>172037195
what's the matter?
can't guess right?

>see opponent trying to attack me
>i try to parry it
>they feinted their attack
>they eat a heavy to the face and die
lol this game is easy

I don't understand how to fight Valk at all.
What can I punish her for doing? Her spam seems like Warden vortex with more flexibility.

>>172039157
Dodging a sweep gives you a free GB.
Blocking her pounce gives you a free GB.

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>>172038686
wanted to post this webm

>>172039157
When I fight Valks i try to block one of their attacks and quickly go on the offensive
and dodge the sweeps or you're dead

I report all offensive emblems if the player is a PK
fuck PK

>>172038284
>Grew up with dimmu borgir
Truly a kid then

>>172032813
That's the dream my friend.

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>plays warlord
>wins 3-2 after somehow managing to get revenge 1v1
>says ez

>>172039328
I do it regardless just to be an asshole to shitters who are too uncreative to come up with anything better than le epik nazy emblem.

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Daily reminder that conq is balanced and relatively strong only because he can defend himself and fight against broken characters (pk, warlord) and warden's shoulder bash due to full-block and punishment with shield bash->light after side dodging headbutt or shoulder bash.

>>172039590
Fem conq in just her helm, shoulders and tabard when?

>>172039590
>balanced
even the retarded devs admitted that he is op

Post yfw

>orochi that top light and ZA spam
https://youtu.be/aLekt6fGous

>>172039590
>Conq is balanced
>B-but they can beat the broken characters!
If they can beat the broken characters they can beat every character, now cant they?

Conq is not balanced at all. He has a perfect defense at all times. The only way you're going to damage a Conq who is committed to defensive play and Shield Bash only offense is if they fuck up and miss a block.

>>172032698
So have there been any new patches? or an update to fix the connections? I haven't picked up the game since they fixed afk farming

>>172039476
When I first listened to progenies of the great apocalypse I read the title and thought it said penguins. I was a very dumb 8 year old.

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Berserker or Kensei?

>main berserker up to this point
>saving steel to get that sweet brutal execution
>try Kensei because I wanted something new and practice feinting
>20 straight games of shitting on people who refuse to parry

I know this isn't an accurate representation of Kensei, but I'm still coming off that high. Should I switch?

>>172039590
>conq can beat than all the best characters in the game
>conq is balanced
choose 1

>>172040376
Kensei and 'zerk suffer from similar problems at higher level play, so you're equally fucked.

'zerk is maybe just a tiny bit better, because your 500ms attacks can come from two directions, instead of just upper. Plus your dash attacks aren't free GBs on block.

>>172039970
>I haven't picked up the game since they fixed afk farming

Stay gone

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>>172032772
>>172032985
LB players are always bros.

>>172040376
neither preferably, although if you insist go zerker cause he's fast and fun at least

>>172040735
>getting the deflect off on a valk or nobu main

I gotta agree.

>>172040721
>said the LB player

How long did it take you guys to get decent at this game.
Ive never played fighting games and got this 2 days ago and honestly most of the time i feel like im flailing randomly and can't do well.
Also i cannot react fast enough to counter guardblock.
My kd is like 50 kills to 75 deaths or something.
I mostly play valkyr and kensei

>>172041760
I had a 100% duel winrate in the open beta but then my skill level quickly stagnated, everyone caught up and I'm not great anymore

Made top 16 at one of them PxG tourneys tho

>>172041760
I started with the open beta, and got pretty good at the general mechanics during those 2 days. Things like parrying and teching and shit.

When the actual game came out, it took me about a week to learn how to properly capitalize on parries and how to use my entire character, instead of only the fundamentals.

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>>172041760
>136 hours
>played all the tech tests and betas
>0.5 kdr

Some people just don't get good.

Warden is balanced.

>>172041760
Kensei has no openers, switch to mouse and keyboard if you don't have steam, if you do have steam open it up in big picture and when you go to play the game from youre library you should be able to modify the deadzones on the controler to make it easier to change your block, if you are using mouse and keyboard its more awkward to learn but once you do I think it's better for when you're locked on.

>>172042345
Warden is the perfect balance that all characters should be based around, he shouldn't be nerfed and instead characters below him should be buffed

>>172042637
You want the game to turn into 50/50 coinflips the whole time?

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>>172032772
lol why u gotta be a faggot

>>172042826
Why do you refuse to give up on life

>>172042771
its not a real 50/50 though, you can roll to get out if you have the stamina or you can stuff it with an attack turning it into a 33/33/33

>>172042771
You want the game to be a cold war simulator where attacking loses you the game, because no one has a decent offense?

>>172043015
It's actually not a real 50/50 because Warden can cancel into GB on reaction so really it's a "guess right and also have full stamina at all times or fuck you"/100

>>172042641
VERSATILE

>>172043103
>whack him with a light
congrats you're out

>>172041760
idk why i just clicked in this game. I played Raider in the beta and thats all i really play now.
>top 1% in stat tracker meme
Maybe im autistic when it comes to this game or something

>>172043096
I bet he was mad about this. It's okay when he enviro's people, but not when people do it to him.

He's the type of guy that gets mad when they try to GB you with their back to a ledge, and the tech sends them over.

>>172043182

Can we start mandating warden players identify themselves at all times?

>>172043096
Jesus that hazard magnetism

>>172043068
Turning every fight into a coin flip isn't a good solution though

>>172043182
>lol just constantly be swinging with lights since he can start it from dash or part of HIS COMBOS & the window before he gets hyperarmor is short AF LOLOLOL
There's no way this could cause us problems.

>>172040376
Zerker is getting some balance changes soon. Might want to take that into consideration. Decided to stick with him because of it.

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>When people spam GB to environment kill you and you keep teching it then they miss and you do it to them

>>172043871
GB spam is so fucking retarded, I feel like I can't even get a light off in the time between GBC recovery

>>172043871
>"Wtf man"

Every time

>>172043416
>provide solution
>get upset
?

>>172043607
his hyperarmour doesn't start for fucking ages
>implying it's a 50/50 if he's just doing it in the neutral game
get good

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>Get matched up against a warden as Raider
>Oh boy here we go
>The usual overturtle bullshit
>Literally won't do a thing unless I initiate
>Have a bitchass moment and just tell him to fucking kill me because he's so dull and I can't take it anymore to fight against people like that
>He tell me my defence is too strong and he have to carefully pick his moment

Fuck I feel bad now.
Not because he complimented me, but because I shouldn't be mad at people for using every advantages the game give them, it's not their fault it was designed that way.

>>172043318
>decide to play zerker
>be shit at it
>brawl tower ruin map
>get carried by a shug
>last round get matched up to PK whose been kicking my ass extra hard
>puts her back to a ledge on the inside of the tower
>CGB her
>she falls
>quits before she hits the ground
>roach on her team pulls out a win for her team after killing me

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>>172044216
they be mad since they can't style on inferior beings

>>172044410
thing is you actually have to play like that against Raider because he can't be vortex'd and he has huge damage off parries

I'm a warden and I feel like a cunt when I fight raider but that's what you have to do to win

>>172043318
I had a warlord on this same map that wouldn't do jack but guardbreak and drag you across the map if he had to.
The funny thing is, I was playing shugoki, and next round I charged his ass in a ledge first thing, he instantly ragequitted.

I don't understand these fucking people.

>>172044551
>Dueling as a zerker
>First round CGB an Orochi off a cliff
>He was at his last bar of health and he had barely even hurt me
>He still gets pissy
>Kick his ass in round 2
>Almost lose round 3 because I choked some parries and got combo'd
>GB him
>Ledge him on purpose this time
>He leaves the game before he's even falling

>>172044705
>huge damage
>your oponnent needs to fuck up for you to land a side heavy

>>172044829
He gets a confirmed top heavy off of light parries my dude. Kills a PK in 3 parries.

>>172044623
>shoulder bash shoulder bash shoulder bash shoulder bash shoulder bash
This game is really looking up

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Man, I'm starting to dislike Brawl as much as the other non-duel modes...

>play patiently
>teammate dies instantly without doing any damage

>play aggressively
>get dumpstered because this is a turtling game

>try to gank
>teammate is an honorfag or just too dimwitted to do anything at all
>stands there and lets me get counterganked

>>172044705
Yeah I understand, but really it's the same for everyone at one point with this game; you have to wait until your opponent initiate else you have 50% chance of getting your ass kicked to oblivion.
I'm just getting more and more frustrated against overly defensive play is all.

>>172044623
>Style
>The same shit every vegetable has learned from day 2 on

*Fart*

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>parry a nobushi as LB
>too far away to gb or FUCKING ANYTHING

>>172045143
Can't you always follow up with a light?

>>172044410
>I shouldn't be mad at people for using every advantages the game give them

Except in the case of PK. People pick and play them solely because of their over the top advantages that allow even the most braindead of turds to succeed.

>>172045249
Yes

So if LB is a bad meme hero now?, what hero is the good meme hero

>>172045654
Shugoki

>>172045654
Kensei is the new LB. He's bad, but people enjoy him, and all the people that play Kensei act like they have some sort of kinship.

>>172044970
>liking duel-modes
Grind your 108 gear and embrace the fun.

>>172045143
remember there's different parry properties depending on whether you parry a light or a heavy

pretty sure the law gets top heavy from light parry

>tfw got Kensei to 108 GS, his Mythic outfit and his Spine execution without spending a single dime on Steel
>Already have 10K Steel again to gear up my Warden when hes rep 3

Why are people complaining again?

>>172045968

Duel is the ONLY mode.

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>>172046290
No idea, just doing the orders is enough to get all the steel you want.

>>172045968
>Warlord pops revenge
>Headbutts
>Knocks you down for 4 fucking bars of life
>he's in this state for a solid 10 seconds
>he gets to pop revenge every 3 hits
not my idea of fun t b h

>>172046290
It's only reddit that's whining. Outrage and bandwagoning are easy upmoats.

>>172046290
bandwagon that one reddit post. 2 weeks ago, no one was complaining.

>>172046637
The orders are so shit though, there's nearly always 3 or 4 skirmish ones and there's no way in hell I'm putting myself through that shit again

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>>172046290
>waste all my steel at rep 1 trying to get the coolest looking armour pieces and on look swaps to get the best stats
>do it again at rep 3
why do I do this to myself

iskys and richard didnt win a single game.
Its a good day

>>172046937
Do it famalam, zerker with feat build is fun.

>>172047028
king richard is a mega cunt I hate him

>>172039217
That was pretty entertaining actually

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I FUCKING HATE SHUGOKI WHY IS EVERYONE COMPLAINING ABOUT WARLORD WHEN THIS GUY EXISTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>45k steel
>conq&law at 108GS with more then 2 sets of gear maxed out
>warlord at rep 4 74GS
>want to buy 6month champ status
>waiting for patch to drop to see if they fix law

this is a make or brake patch for me

>>172046710
>Warlord pops revenge
>backdash or unlock, roll out, lock again and continue backdashing
>fucker doesnt know what to do
>engage when he's out of revenge and continue to disorient him
I dont say that warlord is balanced or some other shit, he obviously isnt, but there is a counterplay, he's just too fat with his passives in 4v4s. I rather fight and gank warlord than pk.

Are contract orders daily now?

>>172042345
>>172042637
Agreed.

>>172047872
Shugoki is super pigeonholed into doing gimmicks if he actually wants to win legit fights, warlord is ridiculous in pretty much every facet of his character.

Can you deflect unblockables?

>>172047405
All pk mains should die in agony, especially "TORNUMENT" players.

>>172048501
don't think so
I've tried many a time

I feel like such shit. Everyone in these threads says how easy PK is but I just can't get her to fucking click. I can work wonders with Warden or Kensei but every time I try to use that fucking slut I just get bodied. What's wrong with me?

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R8 my shugs

Does Conq benefit at all from parries? I'm parrying but it won't let me GB after, and the heavy hit that follows the parry is easily blocked. Am I meant to be following it up with a light attack?

Is it worth it actualy upgrading everything to 108?
Or do you just upgrade your revenge gear and stay somewhere in the 80's?
Seems like alot of investment for minimal gain.

>>172049001
Nipple Tassel Shug is the best.

Call him the Dildozer

>>172049001
Never seen that mask on the left before.
Looks dope.

>>172049070
gear is a meme, people just upgrade to 108 to make them look like theyre good

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>>172044951
>>172045131
why are you still angry?

>>172049001
middle shug with left shugs weapon

>>172049337
>Gear is a meme
It let's you fucking two shot people in revenge, become an unkillable tank in revenge mode, have higher attack and defense, faster stamina regen, faster exhaustion recovery, and debuff resistance.
Anyone saying gear is a meme is a shitter terrified that it's gonna get nerfed

>>172049618
only revenge gear is broken imho

how the fuck do you fight another assasin as berserker
>dodge attack
>his dodge attack is faster
>try being cheeky and feint
>they just spam lights
only thing that has worked was turtling

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>hit rep3
>74gs
>I look the same as rep0

>>172049618
No, its a meme because if you lrn2parry the stats dont even matter

>>172049838
Side lights. Parries.

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>>172049880
>Femsei

No mustache will piss me off forever

Have a rep 9 Ken

>>172049916
yeah and what's stopping a guy with gear lrn2parry?

they hit you twice as hard if you don't have gear

>>172049747
High defense and attack on weapons turn heavies into even bigger tanks that hit harder. Stamina cost reduction makes characters like PK able to spam lights all day, and even zone attack three times without being exhausted

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>"next patch nerf pk?"
>no, pk doesnt need a nerf
>(c)KingRichard15

Would I get anything for being in the closed alpha if I got this game? How different is it?

>>172049970
I love how short she is. I like the contrast of having a weapon as tall as the wielder.

>>172049916
>Dude no one with gear will learn to parry and hit you harder than you can if you don't have the gear as well
Are you literally retarded?

>>172050021
Dont let them hit you, senpai. I dont have 108 gear, even though i could, but its a meme so it doesnt matter

>>172050195
People who complain about 108 gear are just looking for excuses to say they dont suck. Theres game modes that take gear into consideration so go play those. Or just play 4v4 and you will eventually get to 108 gear too. quit being a whiny bitch, and just play the game

>>172050285
>Dude 108 gear is a meme lmao just parry them
>"What's to stop them from parrying"
>DON'T GET HIT LOL, GEAR DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING
Okay so you are actually retarded
>>172050581
Gear is broken because it allows you to two shot people in revenge.
>D-DON'T GET HIT, PARRY!
People with gear also parry. I have gear and parry people all day, making them eat a GB and a overpowered heavy thanks to the attack stat

>>172048382
This, shugoki is retarded but definitely not in the same tier as Warlord

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>nigga only spams zone attacks and dodges like a bitch
>calls me spammy for shove -> gb -> sideheavy over and over because he can't cgb
>rep 3

What did he mean by this, unironically?

>>172050818
shitter found

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>>172049747
>>172049618
>>172049337

>new to the game
>try duel
>lvl 17 valkyrie
>3-1's me
>wow owned by a lvl17 valkyrie xD ez noob take my disrespect
>my berserker was lvl2
??

>>172050939
>17793 salvage

jesus christ anon go outside

>>172051168
>S-shit I have no defense for how broken gear is
>It's totally not broken even though devs have already announced their nerfing it
>I know, I'll call him a s-shitter
>Haha looks like I win
This is just pathetic
I suppose you find this 100% fair>>172051175

>>172051485
there's gotta be people here worse than me

>>172050818
Gear isnt broken, revenge gain is broken in 1v1, revenge attack is broken only on pk.
Period.

>>172051231
Level 17 or rep 17?
The difference between level 2 and 17 is like a couple hours of playtime.
Either way, people are always awful to each other.

>>172051572
gear is broken retard

stop being retarded

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>>172032985
>I main Law, Raider, and Kensei
They're bro classes, and I honestly think they have the most fun play styles... Because you actually have to know the games mechanics to win

>>172051547
>getting parried

you deserved that

>>172050818
Sure gear is broken for revenge, ill give you that. Yes people with gear also parry, but you can parry just as well as they can. just because your opponent can parry doest mean it. automatically gives them an opening to get 2-3 heavy hits in, hell sometimes not even 1.My point is 108 gear is a meme that theoretically shouldn't make a difference in regular game play. People just look for reasons to say
>game is broken
>game is ded
>game is shit
just fucking stop playing if youre going to complain about it so much. All the stuff is in the game for the reason and the ONLY thing that is broken in the game, is character exploits when they spam attacks, i.e PK, Warlord, Valk, etc.
>>172051547
Yes thats 100% fair because its part of the fucking game.
>>172051572
this is correct

>>172051572
>It's not broken, I DESERVE to one shot almost an entire healthbar!>>172051175

>>172051547
>berserker being an idiot feeding revenge then proceeds to spam light attacks
>gets parried and hit by blinding justice

Yes

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>>172051485
>>172051553
ayy

>>172051553
I'm not worried about the health of other people I'm worried about you.

Long term vitamin d deficiency can cause a lot of serious health problems

>>172051778
Gear is broken though.
>Defense gives you higher defense than other players without gear
>Attack gives you higher attack than other players without gear
>Debuff resistance is literally broken and allows you to tech GBs after a parry
>Stamina cost reduction allows players to attack for much longer than others without exhausting yourself
>Exhaustion recovery lets you get your stamina back faster than people without it
Gear literally gives you an edge on every single aspect of the game. You're a full fledged retard if you're going to sit there and claim it isn't broken because "dude just don't get hit lol"

>>172051958
>"Do you think THIS is fair?"
>Yes
>Yes
>Yup

>changes subject

Poetry shitter

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>>172051812
>>172051553
i got you anon

>>172051572
>start comboing some guy
>light attack input prebuffered
>dude pops up revenge
>I fall to the ground
>dead

>>172052047
You're completely ignoring that gear literally gives people with it a big advantage and people without it have to work twice as hard for the win against a competent player.

>>172050939
>>172051812
>>172052061

Guys what are you doing
Look at this goon
>>172046637

>>172052184
>"Do you think THIS is fair?"
>Yes
>Yes
>Yup

>changes the subject and pushes the goalpost

Do you think about what you are typing or are you just so tilted that you just spew whatever comes to mind even if you are wrong?

>people are unironically defending revenge gear
>108 gs person block 3-4 attacks
>gets parried
>he now has revenge
>if you attacked him during the revenge startup you are dead because a heavy fight revenge attack one shots most classes
>debuff resistance lets you be immune to gbs
yeh sure it's fine

>>172052205
Anon, I'm >>172051812

>shugoki can do his demonic embrace when he missed one before and doing second with 10hp wouldnt kill him
>and if he catch you in that 2nd one he one-shots you
WTF?

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>zone attacks are supposed to be used against more than one enemies
>most of them work 200% better when used against one enemy

What's the trick to landing a side heavy after shugoki's charge knockdown? I whiff like half the time

>>172049006

I've really haven't found a good use to them other than parrying unblockables

>>172052338
also forgot,
you can have all these without sacrificing anything

>>172051958
All right so ill use your logic. By going with what YOU are saying every character should be exactly the same. Because I main Raider, who has the slowest guard stance change, so I am at a disadvantage against someone like a PK, who i think has the fastest. Thats the argument you are making, that because gear gives an advantage over other players, therefore its broken. You realize every fucking game has BASICALLY the same system right? Guns in shooters have different stats and some are better than others, does that make some guns unfair?

>>172052424
Yeah, it's shit, all ZA should be slow uninterruptible attacks while grounded, or stuff similar to the conq one.

>>172052286
>GEAR ISN'T BROKEN
>Gear literally gives you an advantage because of these facts
>THAT'S NOT BROKEN THAT'S FAIR
How fucking retarded can one faggot be?

Also it's funny how you've gone from gear is a meme to admitting it gives people an advantage but you're calling it fair now

>>172052424
Make way is so useless.

>>172052338
You also forgot that the only reason they get so much revenge is because a second retarded person is trying to 2v1 the person just feeding revenge.

In a 1v1 scenario the modifier is only 1x whereas it goes up exponentially for each person nearby. So by complaining about revenge you are saying you're an idiot trying to gank someone you know has a revenge build and you can't actually get damage in.

>>172052686
>"Do you think THIS is fair?"
>Yes
>Yes
>Yup

>changing the subject, moving the goal post, and now attacking the person and now the argument

How many argumentative fallacies can we go through here folks?

>>172052632
I'm arguing that you shouldn't have an advantage because you spent several thousand steel to buy and upgrade to 108 gear
>Dude guns in other games have different stats!
In most games every character can use every gun for free

>>172049382
Second person, I'm not, I'm just saying, it's literally nothing impressive whatsoever anymore.

ELITE
OUTFITS
FUCKING
WHEN

>>172052789
>I-if I don't actually answer the question I can't be wrong
Christ you're a retard
>Revenge gear is fine because it's only ganking that gives people revenge
People get revenge in 1v1s all the time thanks to revenge gained by injury you fucking retard

>>172052424

They should just reduce the dmg unless you are being 2v1

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>tfw you bully a rep 7 warlord

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>>172052424

>>172052817
What about the people who level up faster and get the gun before you? I literally have never spent any steel upgrading my stats, i just use what comes to me. I dont have 108 gear because it IS a meme that nobody needs to be good. Thats the argument Im making. Youre trying to say the whole system is broken because you get killed by people who have 108 gear. EVERYBODY in the game has gear advantages, its not like only a select few gets to use gear. Yes some people have better gear than others, but theyve probably been playing the game longer too. Which brings back the first sentence i made. gear as a whole isnt broken, is revenge gear kinda fucked up? yes i will give you that, like i said, but no gear otherwise is perfectly fine

>>172053083
those sidesweep dodge heavy attacks are so gonna get nerfed to hell

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>>172052958
>"Do you think THIS is fair?"
>Yes
>Yes
>Yup

>changing the subject, moving the goal post, attacking the person and not the argument, and now strawman
How many argumentative fallacies can we go through here folks?

It gives people an advantage mainly in ganking. People CAN get revenge in 1v1 but only if the person attacking literally cannot get damage in and they only turtle. Revenge gain by injury does not trigger in a 1v1 before you die unless it's PK bleed damage or you only spam weak lights (such as warlord's headbutt). And even if they DO get revenge in a 1v1 you're idiot ass is the one that doesn't back off when they pop it. If they have revenge and they don't fall for a revenge bait, you just wait it out and they lose the revenge.

You're a fucking idiot shitter.

>>172053410
>I know all the advantages of 108 gear and it's a meme!
>Well no I actually have never used 108 gear so I can't actually tell what a difference it makes
Opinion discarded

>>172053443
>Gear is a meme!
>Yes it gives you all these advantages, but it's still a meme!
>Also no one ever gets revenge in 1v1s unless in my super specific scenario
What about this general attracts such retards

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>>172053708
Prove me wrong faggot. Oh right you can't.

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>PK will never be nerfed because ubisoft nerfs and buffs based on global leader boards and doesn't actually pay any attention with what's actually happening in the community
tbqh I like the PK and want her to be nerfed so I can use her without being an overpowered shitter.

>>172053802
I've already proved you wrong by pointing out how gear is broken

>>172052131
>spaming meme chains while ganking someone
>you know that your enemy can get his revenge in any moment pretty fast
>still spamming
Warden main with autopilot shoulder-lights? Your own fault. That is completely legit if you're ganking. Revenge shouldnt present only in 1v1s.

>>172053538
Holy shit. Do you even play this game? Getting to 108 gear doesnt make that much of a difference. I dont go to 108 gear because its a fucking meme. I love also how you dont even try to fight my fucking argument

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Who /Vanguard/ here?

>>172053992
I have 108 gear. I maxed out defense and attack on my weapon, and I'm significantly harder to kill and I hit harder as well. It makes a difference

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>>172053903
>gear is broken because of 1 webm that is agreed on being fair
>gear is broken because in a 2v1 where the 2 can't get any damage in because they are always spamming top heavies the 1 gets revenge
>gear is broken because you get a damage boost to even the score
>gear is broken because you get a shield of HP to even the score

>gear is broken because I'm a shitter that feeds revenge by spamming top heavy attacks then I die because I kept spamming attacks at them when they proc revenge and I fall down and take a top heavy deleting half my HP instead of backing off like a smart person does

>>172051718
>Bro classes
Is this what you call the shit ones now

>>172054270
>Dude who cares if gear gives people higher defense and attack over all, makes them recover from exhaustion faster, regen stamina faster, and every single stat in the game makes them do it better
>Clearly 108 gear that costs several thousand to upgrade makes no difference
You're literally already proven wrong because the devs have said they're nerfing gear

>>172054270
yeah let's completely forget the fact how people get revenge in 1v1 and anything shove done in revenge knocks down people

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>>172054529
>max attack is beaten out by defense
>you cannot have all of the stats at the same time, and the ones you don't pick take penalties below normal
>>costs several thousand
>this is somehow a lot of steel
I bet you go to reddit and spout the same "I want my money back because I can't unlock EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF COSMETIC" as the rest of the idiots
>nerfing gear
They said they are nerfing revenge gear. Specifically revenge gain by defense.

>>172054709
>doesn't back off when they pop revenge
Wow. Good work. You're an idiot.


You guys will literally not accept anything besides what fits into your view. Good luck being bad.

>>172054083
Enjoy doing no orders ever fgt

>>172054971
>>max attack is beaten out by defense
Wow, so you're saying that 108 gear is fair if everyone has it? Gee that sure sounds like it's balanced and not overpowered as shit compared to people who don't have it

>Duel a PK
>Hes being the average cheesy PK cunt
>Get revenge
>Pop it
>Heavy and kill him
>He leaves

>Duel a Shugoki
>He's staying on the bridge on shipyard so he can charge me off
>He's fucking around because I won't come out
>Run up and GB him as he's coming out of a roll
>Throw him off
>He leaves

So am I just supposed to keep being a nice guy when I fight assholes? Why the fuck can't they take this shit on the brow when they're starting it?

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>>172049001
>blackgoki
>unpainted chest
>those weapon heads
Good taste anon

>>172054971
Dont even try anymore man, they keep dodging all the arguments.

>>172055173
Max attack is beaten by normal defense.

Also the amount of boost it gives is literally a single fragment of your HP. It's like 5 damage.

>>172053443
>>172053802
>>172054270
>>172054971
>avatarfag
>retarded
cashes out

>>172054971
>doesn't back off when they pop revenge
and spend a minute dodging? since they're full revenge duration too.

God you're a fucking moron.

1v1 one guy getting 100% boost to everything is NOT fair.
I play a shugoki and I literally one shot anyone who gets downed and I accept that it's broken as hell

>>172055289
It absolutely is not.

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>>172055296
lolk. not my fault the best images to use are from the same thing. Here's a new one for you then

>>172033804
Hasn't it been Ninja and Centurion for the past three threads

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>>172053423
literally never, in fact they should buff them with the ability to feint them

>>172055470
>>172054971
>>172054270
>>172053802
>>172053443
why are you guys keep falling for the bait?

unrelated
who /vortex/ here?

>game is turning into who can abuse flicker bug and unparryable bugs the most

>>172054379
Found the guy who won't learn the actual game mechanics

>>172056220
It's almost like the game was never meant to be played seriously

>>172056635
I know them just fine, doesn't mean I have to play shit classes.

>>172055448
No one says here that revenge gain isnt broken in 1v1, revenge gain isnt broken in 2-3-4v1.

>>172056732
its pretty broken in 2v1, you get it with literally 2 blocks

shugoki is the most cancerous character in the game btw

>>172056725
>Bitter that he lost to one of three bro classes in a 1 on 1 because he got outplayed

>>172056881
nah

>>172056732
>no one says revenge gear isn't broken 1v1
no, people say in general that revenge gear is fine when clearly it isn't
getting revenge 2 times in 8 seconds is not balanced, especially when revenge auto-knockdowns and gives you a free heavy for 2-5 bars of health

>>172056732
1. No revenge in duels
2. Lower the default multiplier of revenge so you can't get it in 1v1 so easily, and increase it in 2v1/3v1 etc to bring it back to what it is currently.

Bam

>>172056946
its the dumbest fucking matchup ever

>>172057050
for who?

>>172056925
I defeat them just fine, man. They are shit, after all. Kinda sad when you see good players wasting their skill on them. I don't know if it's insecurity of fucking up with good classes or what but they should consider droppit that shit until they are fixed.

>>172057070
anyone not playing shugoki

you aren't even locked on half the time

>>172057262
who do you play

Why does anyone like fucking Skirmish?
>Need to play skirmish for the daily
>Hate it, but it's just two games for 300 coins
>Play Conq
>The entire game I can't do a goddamn thing because everyone travels in a pack and my attacks are constantly interrupted by my own teammates
>I even had a PK on my own team fucking kill me in the middle of a fight because she was spamming zone attacks and I was already damaged
>She didn't even pick me up after, just ran away
>When we eventually break the enemy team two of them quit instantly lagging up the game
This made is cancer

>buy game
>start download, go make dinnner
>come back, download paused
ffs

What classes are good for learning core mechanics?

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>>172051816
you underestimate my NEET power

Skirmish is the worst game mode.

Proof me wrong.

>>172053423
t. shitter

>Duel
>On a bridge
>Enemy instantly goes for the GB right off the bat
>CGB
>GB him and throw him off the bridge
"Wow ok"
Seriously faggot? First thing you do beside a ledge is try to GB me and you don't think I'm going to assume you tried to ledge me? Why do people do this all the time?

>>172058080
any heavy faster than a light attack is bs, especially combined with noobushis bleed bonus

>>172057914
Elim exists

The correct way to play elim is to run around like a cunt and get power ups the second you're about to lose and fuck everything up for someone on your team and it turning into a clusterfuck

Skirmish you just play as a team the whole time

>>172058215
They do this to try to act like you only won because of a cheap throw, and that they totally could have won if you didn't do it.
Basically they have the shitty "You can't prove I was gonna do it" mentality

are the fort maps back in rotation yet

>>172057914
It starts off with both teams breaking, who ever is left wins, no points to "win" everything else is the same with no rounds and everyone spawns at the beginning with their team. Skirmish is now fixed.

How the shit can you guys even tell if you've parried a light in time to capitalize on it before just instinctually GBing?

>>172057027
Exactly this.

>>172056947
>especially when revenge auto-knockdowns and gives you a free heavy for 2-5 bars of health
Dont fucking swing blindly when you're ganking and seeing their indicator flashing, jesus, is that so fucking hard? Feint the revenge out.
Why the fuck most complaints about revenge so fucking stupid? You seriously want this game to be a gank-fest in 4-8 players modes with revenge tuned down to shit so you can just spam all over the person you outnumber?

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What the fuck am i supposed to do with 214k salvage?

>>172057716
Warden.
Kensei.

>>172058591
Someone is going to say you are me here >>172054971

But they don't know that I am actually >>172057027

>>172058591
>You seriously want outnumbered fights to favor the larger group?

Yes. It only makes sense.

>>172058720
Nothing, salvage is a retarded system that makes literally no sense.

>>172058802
There is a term in gaming called a "Death Ball"

It's where the entire team just sticks together and tries to single out a person and kill them going one at a time. The larger group would never die, and there would be no punishing them. It's the reason revenge exists.

You should look it up.

>>172058591
>Dont fucking swing blindly when you're ganking and seeing their indicator flashing,
fuck off retard, they can activate it INSTANTLY when they get it and if you can't comprehend why it's broken then stop posting anytime you mouthbreathing troglodyte

>>172058802
Its already favors the larger group, you just cant do braindead spamming, thats all.

>>172057506
Nobushi

>>172058227
It isn't faster than a light. It is 15 frames and it doesn't put a bleed. She is an incredibly weak character at the moment because of how almost everything she throws is parry bait. This is coming from a Shugo main.

>>172058981
You mean how people play Skirmish? The person caught alone was the one at fault for not sticking with his team. I don't see the issue.

Overtuned comeback mechanics just make the game more "gamey" with unintuitive emergent gameplay (i.e. "Stop helping me!")

Actually, that's a good measuring stick. Revenge can be considered balanced when joining a fight doesn't have a high likelihood of hurting your teammate.

>>172059189
running gb, will gb him out of the charge every time

>>172058591
>Someone gets revenge from bleed damage
>I'm already mid fucking swing when they get it and they instantly pop it knocking my ass down
>JUST DON'T BLINDLY SWING GUYS

>>172059189
Nobushi is actually probably one of the better classes against Shug. You have fast lights, range, a kick that comes after your attack so it won't be eaten by their super armor.

Hell, even if he parries one of your heavies, you're left outside GB range, which protects you from the wallbang>backbreaker unless he gets one of your lights.

Get fucking good my dude.