/fhg/ - For Honor General

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First for PK mains

>>171895252
>Not Rep 3 Edition
I'm disappointed in you Anon-kun.

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>>171895380
DELET THIS

So this game is dead yeah? I've been waiting for 5 minutes or so and can't even find a 1v1

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>Valkyrie throws me off a bridge
>trys a plunging attack to finish me off
>misses and dies from the fall

>>171895380
Why are PK mains except for me this autistic?

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So this is more or less optimal, right?

I'm not sure the two Block Damage related stats are worth bothering with, based on that one gear stats effectiveness video showing the differences to be like 1 damage.

Honestly, I've just started playing versus AI with matchmaking off. It's the only way I can actually play the game without ragequitting due to chronic leavers or bad connections.

Anyone else in the same situation as me?

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10th for warden mains think this isn't overpowered

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$24.95

Someone talk me out of it.

>>171896192
Go for it. It will do wonders for your self esteem, you'll blame the shirt for no one talking to you instead of your horrible personality/appearance

>>171895853
Are we talking about the same map? I don't know of any permadeath ledges on Overwatch.

>>171896167
That was not done on reaction. Judging by the Warden's low health, the PK had been countering bashes like this for some time and established a predictable pattern.

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>>171896367
Literally every hazard around C. Spikes on the walls and pits.

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>>171896367
>I don't know of any permadeath ledges on Overwatch.

Did you forget why Point C is such a clusterfuck?

>>171896645
>>171896696
Oh, duh. I had the points flipped. Yeah, C is garbage, but so is Overwatch.

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So tried the game after patch, played 12 games in a row with zero drops from anyone, did ubi actually find a solution ?

>Final round of elimination
>Enemy team has two fucking PKs
>We're all fighting in the same area
>I die, but right now it's 3v1, enemy is a PK, we can definitely pull this around
>Spectating the Valk on my team
>She's just standing back watching the other two fight the PK
>PK kills one, and then ledges the other
>About the fucking scream at the Valk for being an honor fag, and not reviving my while just watching the fight
>It's a fucking bot
WHY ARE THE BOTS ON MY TEAM ALWAYS FUCKING BRAINDEAD?

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>>171895929
>except for me

>>171896930
Ditto. I had a few desyncs in one specific match, but no one dropped and we finished it just fine.

Not sure if coincidence. I'm going to remain pessimistic.

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>>171896930
No, I still had a couple games that went nuts after someone left. I can't say whether it is better than before though.

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>Orders are ALL skirmish, dominion and AI

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>>171896696
Point C is the best objective point in Overwatch. It's the only map where I killed 3 enemies with very high gear stats (Level 108) via the ledge.

>>171897354
I just enjoy it because people forget point A exists a lot of the time. I get to camp there all comfy-like and observe the chaos from safety, soaking up that sweet Renown until I can start calling Catapult strikes on C from above.

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Even AI flips out when PK pops that revenge.

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>>171897439
I got killed in Point C by a catapult once, was that you?

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>>171897637

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Found this after leveling up, what does the star mean?

>>171897791
It's a unique weapon piece. Pretty much nothing.

>>171897791
Unique design I think.

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This thread is not nearly as active as I'd expect one to me. I thought For Honor was AAA?

Still looking for challengers, by the way. Uplay pk_is_skill

Beat me and I'll stop playing PK forever. :^)

Any tips on avoiding traps? Always gets me every time.

>>171898415
Make sure there's a vagina?

>>171898415
Look for suspicious bulges. They'll say it's puffy vulva but they're usually of slighter builds anyway, so you can easily disprove that.

>>171898210
ded game, shit devs, no porn

>Tie breaker round in a duel
>We're both low health, and he's one hit from dead
>He back dashes to try to regen his health
>RESYNCHING CONNECTION
>Game freezes and loads
>When we're finally back in he's mid fucking heavy hit and kills me
>Quit instantly because that's complete bullshit
>He messages me talking shit
I don't care if he intentionally fucked with his connection or if it was on ubisofts side, that's complete bullshit and I'm not staying through it

>>171894707
>Attacks don't go through your block
There is a lag that happens with all top-attacks, even if you're holding your guard at top and not change it at all - attack still goes through.

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>>171898210
I had some shit like this happening to me earlier today. I was playing shugoki and did my running tackle. I locked on and started trying to dash towards the guy I just knocked over. For some reason I was dashing away, over and over. I unlock and lock on and the problem fixed itself but I was really confused. I even had a back breaker just head the opposite direction from my opponent. They mentioned it in chat right after I did it because they were as confused as I was.

Who's still playing? And what keeps you going?

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>>171898415

>>171898210
The game is on the cusp of just being gone. Your class is one of the primary reasons.

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>>171898817
Oh that's completely fine, just wait out a year or two until it gets patched up properly, they'll put it on 50% sale and a wave of new players will revive it.

>>171898771
Salt. As long as people will hate me for playing PK, I'm motivated.

Anyone else just get the pre-order outfits out of nowhere? is this what they meant by outfits? I got it for free but it might be a gold edition thing.

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>>171898771
>Who's still playing? And what keeps you going?

The salt. That feeling when someone goes nuts in chat and I reply with :^) and they disconnect.

>>171895921
Nah you just have shit internet

>>171899043
ayyyyyyyyyyyyy my boy

>>171898817
> primary reasons
Wrong. Connection Errors were the main reasons.
>>171898771
It's fun

>>171896167
that was a read and couldve been punished for it. Nothing to see here move along

>>171898771
I like the concept of the game and really want it to do well. I'm just sad there's gear balance and defense meta issues.

The salt is also amusing.

>>171899043
I play Shugoki and Kensei btw

>>171898415
All memeing aside, traps in this game are overpowered as shit
>Viking character places a bear trap next to a ledge and REFUSES to move away from it
You're basically at a standstill unless you willingly walk onto the trap.

>>171895896
L A W G E N D A R Y

>>171899131
>one of the
Connection errors and class imbalance, Warlord and Peacekeeper being the two standout broken as shit classes.

>>171896069
Yes, this is optimal. The block damage is useless because nobody is gonna throw out random heavy attacks without getting parried , and even them the damage is minimal

>>171898210
this happened to me as well against a nobushi ai I wonder if its specific to her.

Also if you ran away she would just chase you around like that pretty funny

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>>171899173
>Goes the long way around

Traps are frustrating but every class gets some kind of feat that is complete bullshit. Its just on you to use it right.

>>171898210
>tripfagging

kill yourself

>>171897259
As usual, I wish contract orders refreshed every 24 hours instead of 48 so we could sift through this shit faster

>>171895252
So i got the game 2 days ago
Tried kensei, started getting a bit better but i play against people so much more experienced than I that i hardly have a chance to learn.
I also tried warlord because i like sword and board and felt much more at ease playing him rather than kensei, does this mean i should main him?

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>>171899531
>Can't tell between a trip and a name

I hope a PK bleeds you out.

>>171899391
>Go the long way around
Are you implying that they're not just gonna walk to the other side of the trap? It's literally a game of ring around the rosie when someone is babysitting their trap. When it comes down to it you basically have to just give in and step on the trap and tech the GB that's coming

Feats definitely need a nerf across the board, it's fucking nonsense.
>Vanguards and hybrids can heal 4 times in a row
>Bleed+Fear itself bleeds someone try in 3-5 light hits
>Warlord can self revive
The list goes on

>>171899708
PERI!

>>171897791
>>171897852
>>171897860
Isn't every design unique? I think the star means literally nothing

>>171899672
no it means warlord is a much better character. He is considered the best character in the game and kensei is one of the worst

I know that deflecting gets me a GB into free side heavy, and a heavy parry can net me a GB if they're not pushed too far away from me, but what does a light parry get me and what does it look like as a zerk?

>>171899531
>>171899708
kek

Question to other PKs here. Why the fuck does none of you ever use Heavy cancel into guardbreak? It almost always fucking lands thanks to how underused technique it is.

>>171899672

If you like how warlord plays then play warlord. Expect to lose a lot. Like don't expect to feel like you are doing decent until you play enough to hit Rep 2. Then expect to be trash again if you start playing a new character. Just don't be afraid to lose and try to learn something every game you play. Even if it just something little.

>>171899817
Oh okay i guess, maybe im not as horrible as i thought i was then, ill keep practicing.
I really liked kensei's aesthetic's though and wanted to get gud at him

>>171900010
if you like 4s than hes good but hes only a noob killer either than that.

>>171899892
>light parry

Gets you a top heavy unless it's a Conq, I think.

>>171899672
play who you like man, don't play them because they're good, play them because you're having fun.
t. rep 5 kensei

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>>171899990
I think it's because all the light spam just works so why bother mixing in anything else. I had a PK on me earlier today that felt like a fucking monster compared to the usual trash. He kept doing his LLH chain but would feint the heavy into another light and almost always catch me doing something stupid. My only chance as Shugoki was a light parry into something. I ended 2 round of a duel with light parry GB into wallslam into oneshot back breaker. Guy left after the second one :^)

>Enemy bot carried their team in elimination
Serious question, what the fuck determines if a bot is going to be a input reading god or a brainless piece of shit? I've lost so many games because the bots on my team can do fucking nothing, and sometimes lose games because the enemy team has a bot that reads my inputs, techs every GB including ones after parrys, and they parry attacks regularly.
So what the fuck determines if they're gonna be good or trash? It should be the same across the board

>Play Dominion for the first time since closed beta
>It's actually kind of fun
I do not remember this being fun

>>171900403
Just wait until the bot attacks and parry it. All level 3 bots are shit because they don't turtle.

>>171899990
if ur talkin about kara throw people have been doing that since release

>>171899790
I assumed maybe they have lower drop rates but since all those designs have been gaudy gold shit they just go straight into salvage.

>want to practise parries
>select lb since one of slowest guard changers.
>opponent is a miseru faggot.

>>171900403
If you're in a pvp mode then I hear the GS of the player it's replacing is the determiner with higher GS=harder bot. Outside of that though I don't know

any other xbros get an update?

Is it possible to parry the heavy during a shield bash mixup?

I try to doge away but its really finicky sometimes.

Law

>>171900334
light spam don't work against people with brains who actually wait and block/reflect all your attacks. NOT attacking is how you beat every PK unless they also have brains and bait you out with faints/heavy cancel into gb etc.

Always keep your guard idle on the left so you can't get surprised with a zone attack, too.

PK is actually pretty fucking easy to beat as long as you're not a retard ganking her and giving her free revenge = free kills

>>171900543
no idea what kara throw means, I'm talking about the cancel of heavy into gb that is exclusive to Peacekeeper. I've played against tons of other PKs and not a single time did any of them use it against me.

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>>171895252
What are moments that made you feel like pic related?

>>171899990
What's the point? I already 3-0 people with light spam.

>>171900508
The issue with that is that some bots literally cheat and tech the GB after a parry.
But my main concern is why the enemy team ALWAYS has bots that can fend for themselves until help arrives, but my team has bots that can't tech GBs and never parry.
>>171900701
It's got to be more than just that, because some games start with bots being hard.

>>171901157
Try to 3-0 me with that silly technique of yours and say it again

>Duel a fellow LB.
>Accidentally ledge him.
>Entire round 2-3 are him getting 100% GB because I cannot change region restriction myself.

What is the fucking point of that "Settings" button honestly?. I can't see attacks coming, They teleport around, and I basically have to predict GB's.

>>171900962
Blocking lights gets you nowhere, because you can't follow up with any damage of your own. Reflecting is just as risky as parrying, and is not an option for Berzerker because the second PK light will hit the 'zerk before the automatic GB can hit.

Zone hits peoples right. Keeping it left will get you killed.

A good PK is not easy to beat. If you are, then you are not a good PK.

>>171900753
Yeah, no idea what it's for though

>>171900962
PK's just have to occasionally purposefully miss the first light to completely shut down parry attempts.

>>171901212
Is my console rigged then? Zones always come from the left for me, 100% sure.

You can block lights forever and she'll run low on stamina if she spams it. If not, she'll start trying other things if she can't hit you with lights only. It's really not hard at all to make PK not spam light.

>>171900962

Yeah my experience against PKs with Shugoki does not make me think she is easy to beat. I can't do much of anything except get a parry and when I do I really need a ledge or a wall near me so I can get the back breaker and get some health back to even the score. Shugoki can hardly trade even with armor because of the PK attacks that she can combo into bleed. I've been starting to no even bother changing my guard direction and just letting myself get hit until they attack where I am blocking and I just parry them for the kill or to get my health back and start the whole process over again. It's frustrating but with how much faster she is I don't have a lot of options if they are any good.

>>171896069
>low revenge time
No.

>>171901458
Not surprised there. Shugoki and Lawbringer might as well kill themselves on spot if they're matched versus PK.

>>171901407
You're retarded, and apparently have never fought a PK and undersood which of her attacks was her Zone. Immediately sheds doubt on your ability to give advice fighting PKs.

Blocking lights forever gets you nothing. She'll just stop attacking and back off when her stamina gets low, and you won't be able to punish because of the strength of defense in this game. Then she'll hop back in. Rinse repeat.

Your argument to beat PK is just to block hits. That's not how this game works: blocking doesn't somehow kill your enemy.

Tfw everyone from vg is bad

>>171897037
Because youre shit enough that it was a level 1 bot

>>171901661

I just resign myself to getting hit until I get that crucial parry and turn it around. Fat man is so slow but I love him :-\

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>Kensei SUCKS
?Que? I've been playing him for a day now; murdering 108's with ease. I promised I'd never be a weeb, but tried him out and he's now my main.

t. ex-warden/zerker

>>171901698
I'd bother to record it for you how zones come from the left for me if you weren't baiting so obviously.

If you can't get past light attack spam despite being able to block every single attack you're retarded. There's enough ways to disrupt the rythm of such monotone strategy, especially with classes Kensei or Warden.

Being able to block, reflect and dodge are the primary mechanics. Being aggressive won't get you far. Learn to punish aggressive players.

>>171901887
Wow a dumb frog poster, nothing new here

>>171901887
108s aren't usually that skilled. Several of them bought a steel pack after AFKing or grinding bots to 3rd prestige. Some of the worse players I've fought against were 108.

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>>171901982
not that guy but you're retarded

>>171901887
Wait until someone turtles

>>171901982
Wow dude you sound really good. Go tell all the tournament players your secret of "just block until they run out of stamina"

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>three enemies in dominion with yiff or fur in their names
>PK on my team with lewdkeeper emblem named yiffkeeper
>do everything in my power to get friendly PK killed and still end up on top of the leaderboards
>tfw

>>171902227
Why don't you just come and prove me wrong?

pk_is_skill :^)

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>>171901982
>tfw when you don't know your right from left

>>171901887
Sometimes Kenseis are unstoppable in 4v4 modes, not because they're a good character, but because of their beyond broken feat
>Playing elimination
>Tie breaker round
>It's 4v1, looks like it's gonna be an easy win
>Last enemy alive is a Kensei
>He pops the feat to make every attack unblockable
>He gets revenge because my teammates are wailing on him
>We now have a Kensie who can two shot you with attacks that have to be parried or blocked
>We nearly lose because he's just spamming lights and zone nonstop
Thank god I had teammates smart enough to back off and pick each other up

>>171901982
They come from your left. You're telling your opponent to block left. Think about this in a spacial sense, I'm sure you can figure it out you dolt.

PK has 2 easily accessible 400ms attacks: her light followup and her zone. These will hit before any other attack in the game, because only PK has 400ms attacks. Blocking a PK initial light doesn't guarantee you a hit. Trying to punish a PK whiff gets you hit because her followup will come out before your attack. Trying to GB after blocking gets you hit, because she recovers soon enough to swing again.

The only thing you can do against a spamming PK is parry initial lights and hope she isn't smart enough to start whiffing them every time, or play the range game as hard as you can and try to poke her to death. There is no other strategy.

Reflect is not a thing. Deflect is not a primary mechanic, only Assassins can do it. Being able to block and dodge doesn't confirm shit for damage.

Take your (you) and choke on it.

>>171902308
I'm not a retarded console baby and you have no argument.

lewds when

>>171902453
Is her zone only 400? I thought it was 300.

>>171896069

Whats the point of debuff resistance on Warden if you're gonna run thick skin anyway?

>>171902308
I would but something tells me you're not being truthful, because you have called it your uplay name, as well as saying that you're on console.

>>171902550
It's 400, which is still absurdly fucking fast. People bitch about Warden's being unreactable and that's only 500ms.

>>171902453
Dude just like
Parry her lights lmao it's that simple
Run up and go her after she's oos

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>>171902308
Do you play PK? Aye you getting confused by the fact that when you are using your ZA it swings on your left side? Do realize if you attack on your left side I have to block it on my right?

>>171902695
>PK starts whiffing her first light
>Trying to parry a 400ms attack that can come from any direction

>PK is out of stamina
>Her backdash is so far that by the time you sprint to her she'll already have half her stamina back
>Being out of stamina doesn't make her ability to defend and worse than if she had full stamina

okay man whatever you say

I just recently looked at some high skill warden play

warden mains will tell you how balanced the zone attack is and how "easy it is to react" to it..

Irony at it's best, because I don't think the "high skill wardens" blocked even one zone coming from another warden, and they all used it as their main source of damage

>>171903038
honestly the only time the zone is good is far range and off the run mixup, i can block it on reaction

>>171903038
>people can parry PK initial lights on reaction
>PK lights have the same frames as Warden's zone

Real high level players you're watching there.

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>>171903038
zone is 30 frames, does 20 damage, half your stam and gives a free GB on block

a GB leads to 2 side lights(24 dmg), a side heavy(30 dmg), or a wall throw(40 dmg)

even on Warden, offense is very punishable

>>171903038
If you BLOCK, yes BLOCK not even parry wardens zone you get a free gb. Fffffreeeeeeeeeeee

Do the current contract orders expire tonight or tomorrow night? I can't check myself right not, trying to decide if I should get on later and finish them at the last minute

>>171899990
I do though. Please I know how to git gud.

>>171899790
The star is the unique part

>>171902308
Pc or stop talking friendo.

>>171902832
>letting a pk whiff a light and hit you with another light
wew

>>171903604
You can't punish the whiffed light, you know. The second light comes out too quickly for any attack to land.

>>171903278
>pks lights have the same startup frames as wardens zone
>shitters actually believe this
why do you people suck so bad?

>>171903604
>letting
Her follow up is faster than every attack on reaction, bar another pk's>>171903698

>>171903604
The best you can do is dash back and hope you got far enough, or guess at a block direction.

>>171903357
You're acting like Warden is the only class that this happens to.
Poor fucking Kensei can't even dodge attack without getting gb'd and they don't even get your gb mixup.

I leave elimination matches if my teammates can't get a single fucking kill over a few rounds. I'm not sticking around to get gangbanged and lose because they're so fucking bad they end up with ZERO kills over 5 fucking rounds

>>171903706
But they literally do.

Go measure it if you want, my dude. Prove me wrong.

>>171903706
But they actually do. Imagine that, imagine a class where their slowest light attack hit as quickly as another "Broken" class's most screamed about "Unreactable" attack.

>>171903780
Dont move tbe goalposts friendo. Its balanced.

On the chance that you arent tat anon, id say that having a fast za costing lots of stamina and being risky is the way to go for this game.

>>171903809
We care

>>171903305
wardens zone is 24 frames not 30 and wardens top light is 30 not 32

>>171903940
then what exactly is going on in the video?

I've provided evidence Warden top light and zone are approximately the same speed, please prove how they are not.

>>171896069
>not getting revenge attack and throw distance

revenge gain by injury is pretty lame.

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warlord looks much better when his eyebrows are visible

i got warden to rep 4 and law to rep 3, either gonna go for warlord or kensei next

>Boosts: 10
>Kills: 1
>Deaths: 6
What did he mean by this?

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>>171904192
Lame, Yes.
Broken, very so.

>>171904217
No, stop there: you're only supposed to play 1 or 2 classes, remember?

>>171901982
Added you. Teach me the ways of PK sensei

>>171903698
>>171903716
>>171903765
Thars completely untrue you can even react punish it with an 18 frame light

>>171895921
Comfirmed for red nat. I'm on right now and got a match in 20 seconds.

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>>171899171
>>171900319
>>171901887
>>171904217
>>171899672

Please don't play Kensei!

>>171904280
PURE UNADULTERATED SKILL

>>171904451
man you better be pretty because you sure as shit are dumb as a rock

>>171904451
Yeah the peacekeeper's first light is definitely on par with HEAVY ATTACKS.

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Made this for a drawthread

Buffs or patches fucking when

>>171904645
I like it

>Playing elimination
>End up dying against a Roach, signal once for a revive to let the team know where I am and go to spectate
>As the round progresses the Roach is the only one alive, and two wardens are fighting him literally 30-40 feet away from my body
>Signal again for a revive
>They ignore it and keep fighting
>Spam over and over for a fucking revive, because they're just endlessly giving the Roach revenge
>One of them backs up to regain health since he's one hit from dead
>The timer on my revive is almost done, but he can still make it
>REVIVE REVIVE REVIVE
>He runs back into the fight, then backs up again to try picking me up once I'm already dead
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING RETARDED THEY'D RATHER ENDLESS GIVE SOMEONE REVENGE BY GANKING RATHER THAN PICK UP A TEAMMATE?
And the irony of it all is next round he died and spent the entire fucking round spamming for a revive the second he died

>>171904471
But why?

>>171904645
Heh. Breddy gud.

>>171904217
i got pk up after lb and warden and it was time well spent, being comfortable with her matchup makes life a lot easier

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Is the reason why I'm always matched up with top tier because I play too much?

>take a break from law after hitting rep 10
>start warden and only use the fundamentals developed from the law, don't even touch his shoulderbash and still win reliably
>always get people whining about my vortex spam anyways
I shouldn't be so triggered but I am

>>171904451
I knew pk players were dumb but this...
This almost smells like bait...

>>171904805
Welcome to every Warden main that wants the roster to be buffed up to his level.

The character is fun to play as because he has actual options in his kit, why isn't every character like that?

>>171904805
Tfw vortexing niggas all day

Just light attack my niggas.

>>171905030
>Just light attack
>When he can cancel and block that light attack
I'm looking forward to Warden tears when that shit gets nerfed.

>>171905115
HE CAN'T DO THAT ON REACTION. How many of you imbeciles are there that think Warden can actually cancel and parry on reaction to any light attack?

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I really want to get good at parrying, so please help. Other than playing with players what option do I have? Which level 3 bot would be best. Also As you can see from webm I have to actually change direction first for successful parry. I've seen people do switch+parry at same time, how does that happen. Whenever I try to do that I always get hit. Even against Level 1 bot Raider.
>>171905030
>Just light attack my niggas.
>Warden Cancels and Parries
"N-NANI!?"

>>171905238
I mean after first shoulder bash connection, It's either I get GB/d or Parried.

>>171905238
>Dude just throw out a light lmao it's the only way to stop me
>I totally won't predict that you'll do the one thing that can stop me though :^)
Wardens mix up is too strong to also have the option of canceling it to counter the vortexs counter. You should have to commit to it.

>>171905382
>2/3 countered with a light
>1/3 countered with a GB

>>171903383
anyone?

>>171904217
I can't decide between pale blonde Warlord or intense blonde Warlord

>>171905486
>I DESERVE A STRONG MIX UP THAT CAN ALSO BE CANCELED TO COUNTER THE ONLY COUNTER TO MY MIX UP
Neck yourself

>>171895896
The most versatile Raider

>>171905030
>Just light attack
That sure helps me when I play Shugoki
>inb4 H-HYPER ARMOR!
You can GB me once, it doesn't matter if I tech it, and then vortex all you fucking want and I don't have light attacks fast enough to stop you. And when my armor comes back again it just takes one GB attempt to get rid of it

>>171905784
>the only counter
>when you can counter the counter to the counter
If they're canceling constantly, GB.

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>>171904584
>>171904589
>>171904905

>>171904645
I don't get the sean bean part

>>171906370
>start up the counter attack during the whiff
That's the thing, PK's range is so strange you aren't going to be assured of your spacing ever. Not to mention her zone being able to be done from medium range.

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when do I get to make my warden this cute?

>>171906797
kek wasn't expecting that

>>171906797
Messing with the game files or something?

>>171906616
>Literally cant do it
>Oh its weird to do and can be countered

>>171907338
You can't do it on reaction, and even if you did it during the first whiff they can parry it. There's no guaranteed punishment.

>>171907281
probably a bug

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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club

>>171907726
Was waiting for you.

METALKID HAS SPOKEN

>>171906473
>You captured Sean Bean
>You lost Sean Bean

I think it's Zone B but sounds muffled ingame

>>171907603
There's literally a video right in front of you doing it on reaction with slow lights.
They can parry it if they read it not react its a punish

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>>171907726
> metaldad267

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>>171907975
>>171907726

>>171907910
Are you joking? They can totally parry that on reaction.

>>171908012
>>171907975
>>171907726
> tfw you can never play with metaldad because you're on PC

Can someone tell me why in the world conq's shield bash and warlord's head butt is15 frames

>>171908074
No youd have to not do the second light, wait for the recovery and then parry.

You cant throw out one light and wait for the attack and do a second light at the same time. Also this is just an example with conq that even slow characters can punish it, most characters have 500ms moves

pound me, metaldaddy

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>>171907726
IRON CHILD PLS GO

>>171907726
STAHLKIND!

>>171908258
You can switch blocks between chain inputs, you know.

HUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR LET ME JUST RUN IN AND HEAVY EVEN THOUGH MY TEAM MATE PARRIED THIS GUY DUUURRRRRRRR OH MAN HE GOT REVENGE HOW DID THIS HAPPEN XD?

If you're going to gank don't be a fucking moron about it.

>>171908435
Not if you play lawbringer.

>>171908435
You cant block while you are attacking you know

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>>171908463
This is why I just run in and grab. Worst case scenario they GBC. Best case I grab the guy and get a free heavy. Usual case I grab and my teammate stands there wondering wtf to do.

>>171908585
Unless you are conqueror.

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>>171904451

At 30 fps reacting takes ~7 frames ignoring input delay. Here's how I think you see it:

The first light takes 15 frames, and you'll react to it once there are 8 left where she's locked into her whiff. If positioning isn't an issue and that you just need to get you hitbox out before her second light comes out, you have those 8 frames to start, plus the 12 frames her attack has. That's 20 frames, which is indeed enough for her to be hit with an 18 frame light if your input delay is somehow under 2 frames. You missed some stuff though.

This requires knowing from the instant you recognize her R1 that it won't actually be a zone attack. The zone attack cancel's false indicator lasts up to a whopping six frames if done properly, five if we're being nice. If you were to wait that long then go "yeah, that light isn't actually going to end up being a zone," your light attack won't come out fast enough to punish her first swing before the second light comes out, since adding five frames when you only had two to spare puts you at a three frame deficit. However, if you go early and just guess that her R1 isn't a zone in order to punish the second R1 only to find out that she was doing a zone cancel, her zone can hit you before your light comes out even if the faked R1 one was to far away to strike you given the lurch the zone has.

This ALSO requires knowing form the first R1 that she'll throw the second R1 out afterwards, because remember, even if we react to the first light we only have two frames worth of room to spare. However, a PK will only actually throw this second R1 out amid your preemptive-punish attempt if she's mashing the button. If you react to her initial R1 immediately, by the time her R1 has finished, your light will have been active for 8 frames (more than the 7, so SHE CAN REACT), and thus if it's an 18 frame light, there are 10 left afterward (enough for an IMMEDIATE GUARD CHANGE). So she can JUST BLOCK THE DOUBLE READ ON REACTION.

Am I the only one who finds femZerkers voice grunting and laughing really hot.

>>171908585
You hit him after he started his second attack. If he just reactively blocked and parried your light instead of starting the second attack in the chain he'd get a free gb.

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>Beat a guy as Lawbringer a few times
>He changes to Warden, his "main"
>Beat him anyway
>He changes to Warlord, his "other main"
>Beat him as Warden
>He changes to Valkyrie, his super main
>He beats me once
>Stands over my corpse taunting and calls me a faggot
>Next round
>Rush him down
>Grab him
>Throw him off a ledge
>Tell him "That's for taunting"
>He rage quits

Normally I don't get annoyed at people, but there's something about a guy whose mains are Warden, Valk and Warlord that gives me the shits. Literally all he did as Valk was try and spam the sweep. The moment he beat me, he starts spamming his taunt. He'd also clearly spent at least some money on the game, because he had the Mythic packs for every faction despite having no characters over Rep 3.

>>171908875
>femzerker will never ride you cowgirl, axes in hand, roaring and laughing and celebrating her victory

>>171908854
>if your input [and screen] delay is somehow under 2 frames
I don't think any store bought controllers have less than 3 frames of input delay, I know gamecube controllers for smash have 7 frames of delay at 60 fps. And good luck getting a screen that has under 2 frames of screen delay.

>>171908878
he cant do a light right after the first light and still be able to block, you either do a light after or you dont. He would have to whiff the first light and just sit there after so it would be just like a feint if he read it

>>171909145
>wanting someone who will scream raider's name whenever she cums

>Order to kill 300 soldiers in dominion
>Hate dominion, but it's an easy 1000 exp and 100 steel for my conq
>Go to the middle to kill grunts
>Beserker on my team also clearly has that order
>The entire fucking match they're nonstop hitting me with their zone attack
>Even when I'm fighting someone they """"""""help""""""" by just spamming their zone attack and hit me nonstop because they don't give a shit about friendly fire, getting me killed several times because they're interupting my attacks
I fucking hate dominion

>>171909340
You don't have to read it though, he can SEE that you've started up an attack well before he has to input his second attack. He's not committed to it until AFTER his first attack ends. It's not like the warden charge cancel where you have to input the cancel shortly after starting the charge, he can see your attempted punish the entire time.

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Yes they ended up quitting. I mean c'mon could've gotten 100 exp and 30 steel, but salt was real from this.

>>171909504
>I play warlord and ledge people
I'd be mad too, what with warlord and his superior to raider throw.

>>171909504
It's his own fault for going for the spear sweep after being punished twice in a row.

t. Valk main

Honestly, I don't main him at all. Only have him at rank 6. I just get bored from getting my ass kicked all the time, and Warlord gets fun for shit and giggles every now and then.

>>171909617
Oh yes, in round 3 she just stopped with sweep completely. Just mashed first light. :^) You can see how that turned out as well.

>>171909173
If you're measuring your controller's delay by seeing how long it takes something to appear on the screen, you're already factoring in screen delay. But yeah, having two frames of input delay isn't really possible anyway, and I'm pretty sure most controllers come out closer to 4 at 30 fps.

If we took my example a step further and assumed anon somehow had only 3 frames of input delay and a monstrously low 6 frame reaction time, that adds up to 9 frames, leaving 6 frames post-reaction where the PK is locked into the initial whiff, which in addition to the 12 frames her next attack has gives you only 18 frames, which is only just enough to react. With an 18 frame light you need to be a superhuman with a supercontroller/keyboard to just reacto to the first as a means of punishing the second, and that's ignoring the double read you're making by doing so since the first light might be a zone and the second light might not even come out after the first.

So when are they going to fix Dusk and Storm being locked for everyone?

You pick a faction and can only contribute to the war effort with that faction's heroes. You can play the others but cannot contribute with them.

Yes or Yes?

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>>171909896
I'd much rather they put high fort and river fort back into the game.

>go to duel VS a.i.
>pick zerk cause I want to play something other than conq
>get matched up with a conq with iron legion colors

Why can't we get those colors if the bots already have them? Why aren't they an option for us if they're already in the game?

>Watch Legionunchained play conq
>Want to up my game
>Youtube "high level conq" to see if there are any good gameplay vids
>Find this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBftainJ1Y

Here I am, cancelling zones, feinting, making reads and he's getting away with this shit. How are the people he plays against this bad? All he does is shield bash > heavy ad infinitum. No one falls for that at my level. His obnoxious/cocky commentary doesn't help on some videos.

>>171910269
>How to further ensure the faction war is meaningless
Sounds great
What we need is a faction war game mode, where you can only play your faction, and be teamed with your faction against others.

>>171910342
I'm fucking sick of all the Vikings/Samurai playing PK because she's an easy win.

Warlord or Warden? Why pick one over the other?

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>>171910342
Please. :(

>>171910448
Warlord has the better toolkit and a spammable headbutt and a ridiculous throw distance if you get a GB.

>>171910312
>1:39
>enemy conq revives a shogoki mid fight, point blank
>there are people on this board right now who think you shouldn't always have either max revive speed or the revive feat

>>171909354
not every femzerker is siv

>>171910536
What are the best gear stats aside from the obvious revenge build? I never know if I'm wasting stuff on block damage reduction and stamina recovery and all that.

>>171910448
Warlord is the best class in the game and has every tool in his kit, as well as the best options at any given time. He has superior block on every light attack. Warden has his vortex and an overhead counterattack.

>>171909573
Faggot should have probably stopped doing sweep combos then.

>wow i keep getting punished for ending my combos in sweeps better keep doing it wow warlord is so overpowered

>>171910536
This, revive feat is god tier in elims

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anyone on pc want to play some elim? i dont have any friends ;_;

>>171910286
They said the Viking maps will be back in custom matches on Friday to gather data. Once they gather enough data, if Ubisoft likes what they see, they'll reimplement them in regular matchmaking.

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> duel
> me at rep 1
> vs. rep 16
> ohshit.jpg
> does this stupid shit
Is this how you afk farm? How do you do that?

>>171910990
>>171910854
You can delete your own posts, you know.

>>171910990
>blind warden tries his luck

>>171911036
I did. You must be using 4chanX if you're still seeing it.

>>171909145
>femZerker will never ride you cowgirl with her axes across your throat, her riding getting more intense as she sees the the combination of fear and pleasure in your eyes. then when the pleasure overcomes the fear you will never grab her hips as she grinds furiously into your dick laughing and moaning until you cum so hard inside her your balls turn inside out.

To be quite honesty my family, it feels rather bad.

>>171910990

autohotkey

>>171910617
First pump up those revenge stats unless you're playing a dogshit class where you're not going to win without the environment anyway (i.e. throws and feats). Revenge gain is more important than damage/defense but you get all you'll want by just having it as the second highest stat on a purple, you'll often get revenge in the same number of interactions max or not.

Debuff resistance is scheduled to be fixed so no comment on helmets.

Sprint speed is arguably the best chestplate stat but some characters you just won't be able to outrun anyway. Execution health and block damage both do very little, though I only looked at execution health regen with a fast execution.

Max revive speed is important, but the revive speed feat combined with minimum revive speed is even faster than the max speed on it's own, so you don't need to max it out if you have the feat. Stamina regen is better than block damage resistance.

Defense is better than attack on your sword, same goes for attack/defense feats. It just scales better. The penalty for minimizing defense is also a lot larger than the penalty for minimizing attack. Stamina cost reduction is really really good, it basically gives you ~35% more endurance whereas the recovery stat on arms only gives you around 30% faster recovery. Plus less cost means you can burst out more attacks in succession, an advantage not offered by regen.

There's a youtube video you can find somewhere that explains most of this.

>>171911109
Updated right after I posted that

>8 kill streak in skirmish contract
wish me luck lads

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>>171911251

>ever queuing skirmish

You deserve everything you're about to get.

Holy shit why is conqueror so fucking broken this is hilarious

>>171910990
why the fuck would you afk farm duels though

that shit must be slow as fuck

>>171911251
Warlord or Conq with regen feat/heal on block. Play like a bitch. Got it 2nd game.

>>171911379
>he thinks I don't know this

it's the only contract left, I put it off long enough

>>171911432
Maybe he actually doesn't want to be a deadweight to his team

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>>171910990
>Once did this back in the day
>Went for a snack
>Came back to see somehow I won 3-2
>What the fuck.jpg
>Enemy was an Orochi
Figures

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>>171910478
>when it happens

Do you guys even do order everyday anymore?
now I just log in and play few duel and thats it

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>>171911980
>>when it happens
Never Ever

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I got 30+ screenshots of people rage quitting. what do I do with them?

>>171912095
Make a >>/r/eddit post saying "When you Rep 30"

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>>171910990
Dominion vs AI matchmaking off
Has no AFK timer
Just need to spam accept somehow (keyboard macro/program to do turbo inputs like xpadder)
Games can go from 5mins-10mins so i average it out with the 1minute 30second next round and loading screens to be 1 match every 10mins.
You get 150xp and 20steel a round so 120 an hour or 2880 steel a day.
Since i have no clue how much exp you need to hit prestige the closest i can guess is its around 19 levels a day.
You also get a ton of loot for doing this since u level so slow. Something like 150 pieces of gear a day without champion status.

This all assumes you stay off your computer all day. You can manually do it while working on the pc if you have dual monitor pretty easy. Put the game on low in a small window and the game to downscale and it uses like 2% of your gpu because its playing at like 320x180.

I have almost every char to rep 4 and never got warned for doing this.

>>171912006

Depends on the orders and the day.
If the orders seem easy or I feel like farming, I'll do a couple.

I will never even attempt orders in Skirmish or Elim though. Total waste of time.

I usually prefer to just do a few duels and call it a night though. I'm in for the long haul, not the fast-grind & burnout. It's not really worth getting good at this game - look at the trash mechanics high-tier players have to deal with. Stick to low-effort, low-winrate shit and you get to play the game as intended.

>>171911216
So Feats that "increase attack" aren't really worth it then?

Why don't they just buff lawbringer already?

Holy shit i'd like to play some FUN duels. Ones that aren't me just light attacking the whole time.

>almost every shugoki, raider, and valyrie i see are black

is there some sort of ebin meme i'm missing

>>171898771
i can't stop playing kensei.

send help.

>>171912318
because lawbringer and raider are presumably getting buffed in the same patch that nerfs warlord, conqeuror, and revenge gear.

ubisoft is taking way too fucking long with this shit though, it's been at least 3 weeks since they announced the patch coming.

>>171910965
They've been in custom matches though.

>>171912445
Then keep playing them, as Ubisoft wants people to play them more and gather data on whether the optimizations were enough, starting on Friday.

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>>171912142
Only rep 10

>>171912208
they're def worth it, on epic gear you should get two stats.

attack+defense at the cost of stam regen, unless you're a really stam reliant class

i think revenge attack has feat cooldowns on it? feat cooldowns isn't really necessary unless you want to set a ton of traps on a dominion point.

New global event starting in 10 hours. What could it be? Reward is 2K steel

>>171912331
I just like being able to make black vikings and samurai. It's a novelty.

All my samurai are black

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>A game finally lets me play as cool as fuck knights and pit them against nords and weebs deadliest warrior style
>Beautiful animations with good graphics
>Nice armour A E S T H E T I C S
>Good core mechanics
>Ubishite runs it into the ground with poor balancing, P2P, bad progression and other problems

Grant me death, undo my shackles

>>171913081
It's probably gonna be "get x amount of exections across all game modes".
People were fucking PISSED that the last one was dominion, because it's one of the shittest modes if you play a character without 108 gear. If they make it complete dominion matches again people are gonna flip

So apparently, I logged into the game and got all the preorder costumes or something. They're rep-level costumes for all 12 heroes.

>>171913192
They should just make it Brawl executions.

>>171913260
Brawl is also a shitty mode.
>Faggots realize they can't win alone
>So they start running to their buddy to gangbang right from the beginning or camp ledges because brawl is fucking designed around them
Fuck that shit

>>171913315
So what wouldn't be shit then, just 1v1 Executions?

Gear ruins 3 game modes.

>>171913356
Executions across all game modes, so people can play whatever the fuck they want

>>171913418
yeah that's pretty good.

I the thing hearthstone and other blizz games do where you can turn away a quest once a day (maybe make it two, cos there's 6 in for honor.)
Be nice to turn away fucking shitty orders and maybe get less shitty ones back

>>171913578
Or maybe make it revives so people get it through their thick fucking skulls that TEAM BASED MODES ARE NOT THEIR PERSONAL ONE MAN ARMY FANTASY
>Playing elimination
>We're all fighting near each other
>Die
>It's now 2v1, but I can be revived
>Both Roaches on my team just try to gank the enemy even though I'm right fucking next to them and reviving me would be the easiest thing in the world
This shit gets me so goddamn mad, especially when they just end up giving the enemy revenge and dying

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>>171913081
>people are mad about us being stingy on steel
>lets have another event
>make it 2k steel this time!
My fucking sides. You know you are doing an awful job when your subreddit is 90% shit posting on you.

>>171914335
>That pic
My fucking sides

Seriously though, I'm glad even reddit is shitting on them. Hopefully they'll feel the fucking urgency to fix this fucking game. It's honestly a fantastic game, just ran by shit devs who can't maintain servers

>>171911216
Thanks anon.

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>>171914335
>>171914610
>You weren't supposed to unlock everything right away XD you dummies, you need to grind for months to buy a single cosmetic epic raite??? xddDdxd
I mean, yeah, you're supposed to grind but not everyone plays 8 hours straight
>No time? Then buy the steel xdxdxd you dork

What are the exact numbers for max defense or attack?

Was it 24% defense and 20% attack?

>>171914916
Yes

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>2-0 against a nobushi
>left the session
>queued up together immediately after again

>>171914913
I love how they never commented on how getting ONE character to 108 gear costs several thousand steel to upgrade, even more if you bought boxes trying to get the stats you wanted

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>>171915121
>mfw I'm not even 80 gear yet
Lonely and painful is the road of the Law

>reach reputation 5 as an orochi
>try to play a different hero
>feel like a turtle with a butter knife and a shell made of styrofoam
haha, no thanks, back to orochi with me

>>171915265
I feel bad for you. You aren't going to enjoy going up against any decent players.

>>171915219
I have two characters to 108, and it costs so much fucking steel getting the right stat gear pieces and upgrading them. Also fun fact, it costs 500 fucking steel to change the appearance of a gear piece to the unique piece. So even if you get a unique piece to drop it might have the wrong stats for your build, and you have to spend steel to make the right piece look like it

>>171915265
I bet you also love Roach because you can "tactically" run away in every fight

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>>171915265
>reach rep 14 as conq
>try out berserker
>no clue what to do with my feints
>forget to follow up my dodge attacks
>forget that my gaurd isn't permanent
>can't time parrys to save my life
>got decent at deflect though
>except against conqs

>>171911216
If you have minimized attack on a purple piece, can you still kill someone in a single side heavy when they're on that last bit of regenerated health?

I have a Nob with a max def/stam blade and a max att/stam blade, and I don't really notice myself doing more damage or taking less damage. The stamina reduction is really the only stat I can clearly see.

What are the numbers on attack and defense? For example, a top heavy warden does 40 dmg. If he has attack maxed out, what's the damage then? Same for defense: if he has defense maxed, how much dmg does he take from a normally 40 dmg hit?

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>dueling
>raider because big damage and throwing is fun
>duels some dude with tryhard name
>peacekeeper
>does the stupid tryhard weapon shuffle the whole time and tries to go in
>3-0 the fucker
>he pulls the plug on the last execution
>queue again
>same guy
>he starts to get ground, is 2-1 because I cant block lights
>turn it around and win 3-2 and end with a perfect
>he disconnects again, same time

shoutout to I.N.F.I.N.I.T.E. for making my night

>>171915775
MUH FUCKIN WINRATE MAN
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, HOW WILL I GET SCOUTED BY ESPORTS WITHOUT A 90% WINRATE?

>>171915862
>Tfw have a 70% win rate and only ragequit over enemies teleporting around or killing me when the game rolls back due to lag
I feel like that's pretty decent

>>171915734
If I max my attack as conq I can kill in one heavy definitely, the same can't be said when I trade attack for stam regen (cost?), like wise even if I don't max my defense it being high is pretty noticeable when I get hit. Still I think I should have atk>stam>def, I like being able to get as many hits in as I can.

>>171916000
I have 68% in duels and over 79 in the 4man but I dunno if it factors in AI matches.

>>171915734
max attack is approximately +20-25% damage, so a warden top heavy, assuming base defense, would be 50 or so. minimum defense is something like +10% dmg taken, so that'd go up to 55

The real shit is when they have max revenge mode attack for +95% or so, so that top heavy now does almost 100 damage

I oneshot a peacekeeper once with max revenge mode attack/max attack as lawbringer, got a parry in revenge mode for AD MORTEM, 45 x 1.25 x 1.95 x 1.10 = 121 damage

>>171916227
I'm all but certain that yes, AI matches count in your in-game winrate.

I think its time for the Knights and Vikings to team up and genocide the disgusting weeb samurai.

>>171915734
forgot to mention, minimum attack is something like -4% damage done, and since nobushi does huge damage off of GB, it's never really an issue

I want more gear sets for characters.

I want a fast revenge set, a strong revenge set, and high attack set, a high defense set, and a max revive/sprint set for funsies. But I have only 3 slots :(

Thats the fifth time someone has called me or asked me to be their dad.

>>171916778
be my daddy and fill my peacekeeper pussy

unless you're not metalkid267. in which case, wait in line.

>>171916304
>teaming up with sheep fucking ViKANGZ AN SHEIT
No thanks.

>>171904280
This shit is the reason all my friends quit after the first week. Ubisofts response to broken gear is "we will fix it soonTM". They should have just turned off gear stats til they fixed it but that would stop people from buying steel to upgrade gear.

>>171917059
Its worth it to wipe out the animu fanboy menace.

You know in your heart it's true.

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>3000 steel for the ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED emote for raider
>should probably work on getting his gear to 108

What do? He at least has the revenge parts of the gear maxed.

>>171917213
Buy champion status, buckle down and do nothing but For Honor over the weekend. Do both.

>>171917213
Gear is infinitely more important than emotes. But the global event this weekend is going to give us 2000 steel, so you should be able to get both done easy

>>171910797
Best way to get friends on FH is to chat in the game, say hello, glhf and all that and see if someone responds. Play a few games with them and then add them afterwards if they stick in the lobby.

>>171912331
WE WUZ VIKANGZ AND SHEIT

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I think the reason the matchmaking is so shit is that there's literally not enough players for the system to find suitable matches.

>>171917213
I personally don't spend steel on anything because im saving steel for the dlc characters and they are just going to add more gear over and over so you miswel save the 10-20k steel it would take to upgrade and use it on emotes that will never get destroyed.

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>>171917273
I would do that but I was gonna go over to my friends house and play a sundry of fighting games.
Gotta rep the best girl at least

>>171917317
I know, i have a lawbringer at 108 and boy is it bullshit.

What's with all the fucks saying Conq is OP?
He can do literally one thing - bash - light - bash into a wall until he runs out of stamina. Charged heavy is literally useless unless you you can drop enemy on the floor, running shield bash is only useful for baiting retards to dodge into grab, worst zone in the game, shield and everything that comes with it is not something exclusive to him, he might as well not have any combos since no one is going to miss the second hit of reaper's crush because it's just as slow as first, and the light spam that other classes do just by flailing the guard direction around is for some reason considered a combo on conqueror.
What am i missing here?

>>171917468
No. It's shit because of NAT, and how system has to find 7 people with green NAT for one with red.

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>>171915265

>started played warden to appease my soulsfagness
>start playin roach because campaign was dope and nothing but assassin orders lately
>try playin warden again to maintain a balance
>that same exact turtle feel

I thought it was just me.

I can't go back now. Shame roach has such a shitty moveset.

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I would like to point out that I beat (((Keehu))) in a single round, once, about a week ago. He was the reigning champ of an official tournament, playing one of the most broken characters in the game, facing me, a relatively fledgling Beserker.

He lost and called me an idiot. But alas, I beat him fair and square, and he is but a salty douche turd that lost to a scrub who chooses to righteously, ethically, and dare I say... honorably, play as a mere Beserker. I have risen above you lowly plebs, and am now a God among weebs and tryhard faggots.

Kill yourselves, and git gud.

>>171919214
I've fucked a woman.

>>171919280
No dude, this actually happened.

matchmaking is slow as shit today. is it a server problem?

>>171919423
Nah, there's just not many people playing anymore.

>>171919348
Uh-huh, sure.

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>playing PK
>beserker is winning
>spam light attacks
>end up winning
>he quits
What did he mean by this?

Can you even fucking win against a Warden as an Orochi? One Warden I kept fighting would recover from any and all fuckups in enough time such that Storm Rush would do absolutely nothing and would just be blocked. His top lights come out faster than my ZA does if I want to ever initiate or follow up, he goes into shoulder bash mode the moment he gets any opportunity. I can't do jackshit against him if he knows how to play the damn guy.

Also, why the fuck can you GB an Orochi already starting Storm Rush? The fuck were they thinking with Orochi

>>171920157
Orochi and Warden's top lights are the same speed, as well as their zones.

Storm Rush input has a backdash and dashes lose to gbs.