/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

FIRST FOR CHINESE FOOD THE BEST DEV FOOD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkosGBfzVig
post devmusic

>check googums twitter
>hes retweeting sarah silverman, michael moore and bernies sanders
hmmmm . . .
really jogs the ol noggin . . .

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Is it possible to talk about fucking GAME DESIGN without you faggots shitting the bed over 'hurf durf not REAL dev get a game idea guy, etc.' and all the other shit memes?

Game design is a legitimate concern and, based on the bullshit you see in these threads, is sorely needed so you people can actually start making good games.

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style testing for a 2048xCiv game Im making with my dudes from school
r8,h8,deb8?

>>171235030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjqk2vlkAno

>>171235191
The trouble is it often requires a deeper than surface understanding of anon's game to decide whether some piece of design is a good idea or not.

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I can't stop shitposting at myself in my text boxes and I broke the enemy fighter's AI by fucking up his animation indexes, but it's PROGRESS!

>>171235191
Sure, I wouldn't mind talking about it. I'm always up to discussing game design. Not expecting that one anon who enjoys shitposting nearly 24/7 to try and stir shit on your post though is just ignorant.

>>171235191
Shitposting has zero (0) effect on your ability to post ideas

>>171235191
give it a shot

>>171235213
I mean, they're cute and the watercolor aesthetic works, but you're pretty much asking us to rate some nice concept doodles, unless you're gonna be watercoloring the entire game.

>>171235213
zug zug

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>>171235306
its furry but it doesn't make me want to throw up.

good job!

>>171235665
Look at it this way: If you ever want a game that lets you punch furries, I think I'll have you covered.

>>171235213
the eyes look too "reddit"

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did a screencap in case anyone missed the last incredible thread

someone please immortalize this in the Google Drive

>>171235782
is a furry an animal character or someone who likes animal characters

>>171235919
danke

>>171235957
Both, I guess?
Either way, there will in fact be punching animal characters once I unfuck the animation indexes so the enemy animates and spawns hitboxes like he's supposed to.

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>>171235527
that's the goal for now anyways.
Individual sprites are pretty small so I can get away with being bad
>>171235792
This better?

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progress:
playing around with different views, still not completely sure which one looks best.

>>171235792
kys

How do you strongly tie progression and exploration? As in; if you want the players to explore the world but also get stronger doing it, do you just make all the progression gear based and let them go find good shit?

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Started work on the last major character subsystem in Dixie, which is reloading (I guess technically I haven't 100% finished ground pounding yet since it doesn't do impact damage but still).

Ironically, I did so by doing something that only works for melee weapons and doesn't involve reloading: throwing!

Like in Mayhem League, if you hold reload, you "prep" your magazine as a throwable weapon (a grenade or some other lobbed projectile, usually) for when you press shoot. However, since you can wield melee weapons in your "gun hands" in Dixie, I've extended this subsystem to enable the throwing of melee weapons as well.

Most melee weapons, when thrown, will actually be removed from Dixie's inventory. They can be reclaimed from the ground/wall where they land later. I can envision some having boomerang-like properties, but for the most part this is the system. However, when unarmed, there's nothing to throw, so I've implemented a special system for "throwing" one of your fists (that disables unarmed gun-hand combat until the animation is over). This has very little actual use in combat, since it does fairly moderate impact damage and has no splash (and a small collision sphere) though it can be used when no other ranged options are available.

The main function is to provide Dixie with SOME sort of projectile for those pieces of level geometry (like the bullseye drawbridge switches in the first level) which require it, even if she doesn't have a gun equipped.

Still to come, camera fixing for the "grenade aim" as well as a dedicated toss reticle which shows the in-air arc.

>>171236367
hue

>>171236586
how did you make the model characters in your game?

>>171235213
Boring and uninspired. Not trying to be a negative shithead or anything, but I've seen the vacant-eyed cutesy potato look a million times already.

>>171235306
I can already imagine the street fighter ko shout in sheep form

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new meta game discovered

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Illustrator crashed far to many times making this.
If you can't think of a better name, work with what you've got.

I know the buildings still aren't fixed, one thing at a time

>>171236647
Just cobbled them together in Blender the usual way (edge loop splitting, extruding, and vertex manipulation)

>>171236715
cool neo tokyo

>>171236669
Guess you're gonna get hired by Rockstar.

>>171236715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofr8qqdZ_f0

>>171236715
It looks great. It feels so sharp.

>>171236580
Depends how much exploration/items you can have.

On a bigger and more boring scale you can let the player find generic stuff which gives XP or money for upgrades.

>>171236768
any good blender tutorials you recommend?

right now I am on learning loop cuts for Blender

>>171236715
project pulseman

first for python

>>171237346
Lua is better

>>171237075
I didn't really follow any, except one I don't recall the name of in the VERY beginning which was on the basics of blocking-out.

It's a good process; get together a 2D image of the object you want to model, set it as your background, press num3 or num1 (side-on orthogonal views) and use extrusion to get a 2D silhouette of the object. Then you use loop cuts to thin and thicken segments to model the object, and subdivision/smoothing to round out the edges.

For Dixie herself I use like 5 separate meshes, though; she's low poly so her legs and torso are disconnected, and the skirt covers that. Her hands and head are also separate from her body. I get away with a lot of tricks like that which lets me avoid having to use rigging-conscious geometry (adding tris in areas which deform most heavily) because a lot of the key joints are just disconnected entities that intersect.

I cheated with my N64 art style specifically to avoid having to develop good models, because I have zero talent for modeling and rigging. My only real knack (I think, anyway) is animating, which I think I'm pretty alright at for an amateur.

>>171237553
>starting indexes with 1

>>171237553
the only scripting language you should be using is a functional one 2bqh.

>>171237643
Why does everyone make a big deal out of this

How do I balance an RPG without fucking everything up?

Or basically; how do I make sure the enemies aren't too easy or hard? How do I tell how fast the player should grow in power and how to balance the combat around that?

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>>171236837
>>171236903
That's the idea. The design doc is essencialy a list of anime and Technosoft games.

>>171236957
Thanks anon!

>>171237085
There's no mans to pulse and I don't think gamefreak would be too happy about that.

I can't launch Gamemaker unless i'm offline, how do i fix this?

How hellish is it to use Git with Unity and multiple contributors? (It has to be Git because reasons.)

>>171236715
i can just hear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMXEsII85C0 [Embed] playing in that webm right now

god speed shmoopdev

>>171237767
lots of trial and error iteration
RPGs are really a planned genre and not something you should just make as you go and decide a stopping point randomly.
>map out all the areas and their general difficulty
>map said difficulties to a level range
>then play with the transition progression from area 1 & 2

>>171237875
I would probably change the colors a tiny bit but I really love how good your game looks

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http://pastebin.com/sD6h65ih

So this is my reload script

I need to add in incremental reloading (aka shotguns)

Here's the deal though, I need the animation to replay over and over until the shotgun is loaded.

Ideally I'd like to have this flow chart, is this standard for the incremental reloading or is there an established method?

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Two weeks until Rush Hour Jam
https://itch.io/jam/rush-hour-jam

>>171237767
The correct answer you don't want to hear: playtesting and iteration.

What I'd suggest is determining how many concrete "sections" your game has. I'd then divide that number by roughly half the level cap (if it's 99, the player should be clearing the game at level 50-60; if it's 50, the player should be clearing it at 25-30) to get how many level-increments, roughly, the player should progress through.

So if there are, say, 8 dungeons, and your level cap is 99, you'd have 60/8 or roughly 7.5 levels to be gained per-dungeon This might flex a little bit with a non-linear XP curve but whatever.

So you then want to determine, through iterative testing, about how many fights the player will encounter between each segment. So if the stretch between dungeon 1 and 2, for instance, has 100 fights for a player taking an average route (i.e. not exploring every nook and cranny, but also not running from every encounter), he should be gaining enough XP from winning to grow roughly 7 levels, which is about 35%-distance-to-level-gain per fight.

That's not exact since XP needed should increase with each level, but it's a decent way to start approximating.

Then, you playtest. When you find that one segment seems to leave you underleveled, you reduce the levels of ALL following enemies to compensate. Etc. etc.

There's no strict formula, unfortunately. Just play and tune over and over until it feels right.

t. someone who has no experience developing an RPG, but this is how I'd do it.

>>171237762
Why do the USA still use imperial units?

>>171237957
You should stop pirating.

>>171238434
That's exactly how I'm gonna do it for Dixie

>>171238610
laziness in not wanting to convert everything.
thats literally it.

>>171238636
>It's the 1.4 free version
Thanks for the insightful reply anon

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I've finally got puzzles loading from external files.

>>171238610
Because metric is not American enough for them, I guess

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i made my hotbar too good now I have to redraw everything!

>>171238881
>Ruby
That's a new one

>>171238881
>Powershell
>Ruby
I see you're trying to give /g/ a heart attack.
Also I like your artstyle.

>>171239060
We already have someone making this game, NEXT

>>171238753
I assume it's some kind of dumbshit thing with the steam version 'cause you're a dumbshit who gets his game development software through a digital distributor rather than directly through the source.

>>171239985
Nah i got it from the site, anyway fixed it by disabling "show news on startup"

>>171240215
Sorry for calling you a dumbshit then.

>>171237957
>GameMaker
Found the problem.

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I'm not sure if I should tone down the amount that the player moves or tone up the amoung that the enemy fighter moves (or both). My eye's being drawn to the player character instead of the enemy and that's not good since in games like this you need to keep your eyes on your opponent.

>>171240492
pls no bully

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>>171240730
The problem is that the player is almost completely in front of the enemy, in Punch-Out the player is just a tiny guy.

>>171241084
Super Punchout had a transparent view like that dev's

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>>171241084
And my game is a clone of Super Punch-out, where the player covers a lot of screen space and is transparent. I can totally rescale them though so that they're larger than the player.

The enemy player is going to need to be moved either lower, closer to the player, or the player needs to be moved higher, closer to the enemy, to make sure that the punches line up, too.

I'm about to get my masters degree in software engineering. I would rather kill myself than become a mindless drone and work on shit I hate as all friends and relatives expect me to. Which of the paths do you think would give me the best chance of becoming a successful yesdev?

1. My current savings would allow me to stay afloat for around 6 months without working. Those 6 months would be my deadline before I release/kickstart or go to support myself part-time.
2. Return to parents' home (from UK to a third-world EU country) and start gamedeving in their basement. Blow all savings on assets and marketing instead.
3. Get into any gamedev company for any wage to get experience on a working gamedev pipeline, possibly some contacts and then leave in a year or two and dedicate all resources to my own project.

>>171242008
>6 months
I have serious doubts that you will be able to stick to that deadline.

>>171242008
4. Discard those options and follow this simple advice.

https://youtu.be/YcS7ZIS_sG0

>tfw you're not sure if your engine is finished

>>171242008
0. Get a job, London is one of the best places in Europe to be a software engineer.

>>171242298
should of bought clickteam fusion 2.5

>>171242473
what?

>>171236669
Time to make a frog game Anon.
Battletoad reboot

>>171242008
>1. My current savings would allow me to stay afloat for around 6 months without working. Those 6 months would be my deadline before I release/kickstart or go to support myself part-time.

I did this, and let me just say that things never go as you plan. I'm actually still "in it". I quit my job and had 5 months of living expenses, 6 if I was tight. Before I quit I laid it all out, how long everything would take me, down to aprox how long each model would take to make. I'm at month 4 right now and nowhere near done. I estimate I have maybe another 5 months. I would do a kickstarter but honestly I don't have a lot to show, stuff just kept happening in the development cycle and I had to force myself to start taking breaks because I was starting to get health issues. Luckily I won a smaller prize in the lotto here that landed me 4k which will let me develop those extra few months. Almost seems like fate.

ANYWAY, take your estimated time to finish, then double it.

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if Nintendo won't make F-Zero, someone will have to

>>171237767
Math

"Playtesting" is just for polishing. RPG systems must rely on coherent math

>>171243576
Isn't that just Wipeout?

>>171242008
If you decide to work on your game rather than getting a job then you need to make your game your job. That means working on it 8+ hours a day regardless of if you feel like it or not otherwise your just wasting your time.

>>171242170
That's mainly the reason why I think it's the poorest choice.

>>171242207
>>171242452
I know that London is a great place to be a wagecuck (and a brown-infested shithole to live in). But then what? I already have an offer from my previous internship (not London but good salary) and during that 6 month employment of fixing bugs (I was basically a full-time programmer that got paid less) I got a clear understanding that it's impossible for me to work on a personal project while having a full-time job.

>>171242787
Thanks for the life advice anon. I hope the day I'll be able to play your game will come. Godspeed.

>>171243576
They funded a SS of srts for the wii-u and switch though. Its just no body fucking knows about it because they did 0 advertising for it.
I honestly have no idea why they didnt just do atleast a remaster of GX

ez sales

>>171242008
3 if you want to go AAA and actually make money, but be forced to work on garbage until you can luck your way into a decent company
Mindless drone job if you want to spend half your time hating yourself but being able to work on anything you want

I'm the mindless drone option, and boy does it drain your motivation over the years. My friends are 3, and while they fucking hated grinding through shit companies they're getting into some decent companies after 4-5 years

>>171242008
>I would rather kill myself than become a mindless drone and work on shit I hate as all friends and relatives expect me to

Hey, I know exactly how you feel. I think your plan sounds reasonable, though I too expect you to fail at meeting that deadline.
That's not a bad thing, though. Having a goal and a plan helps motivate progress.

Maybe you shouldn't take advice from me, since I'm being even more stupid in my pursuit of this dream, but I'd go for option 3 (minus blowing money on advertising) or 1 if I were you.

I have a degree in moonrunes, and for about 1 year I've been living on saved up student loans while trying to make a game. Now I'm taking up a 3D/animation course so that I can get more loans and grants (studying is free in my country) just to fuel more gamedev. I think it's going to work well because I pretty much know everything they teach, so I'll have a lot of time to make progress while "studying".

Whatever you do, I don't think it'll be a big problem, seeing as you have a proper education in a profession. You should never have trouble finding work if you run into money problems.

>>171243809
the webm doesn't really show it but you can drive over any surface

>>171243960
>saved up student loans
Won't you need to pay those back at some point?

Medieval peasant simulator?

Thoughts?

>>171244076
Not before I stop studying.
Interest isn't added before that time either (and is generally very low compared to normal loans).
I can also get up to 36 months of extensions, no questions asked.

>>171244207
[uncommon, often mundane, vague idea with nothing else]
Thoughts?

>>171244209
Just be careful anon. The interest might be low now but I don't trust govts not to hike it up in the future.

>>171244207
Farming Simulator 2016 is doing well, don't see why Farming Simulator 1016 wouldn't.

>>171244370
heheheh, good one
>>171244207
I'd play it

>>171244362
Oh yeah, but I literally would rather kill myself than be a wagecuck in an office. I tried an internship once in Japan, and it was pretty much the worst experience I've ever had.
So, if I fail I'll either kill myself or just live on NEETbux.

>>171244370
kek'd out loud

>>171244343
You could till the fields, harvest crops for the landlord, drink beer and stuff.

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Ok so Im trying to work on the gui a bit, and the way I have it is there are 10 abilities to choose from, so I thought I could make 10 orbs, each numbered 0 through 9 (excuse the fact that in the screenshot some of them are the same color and are all numbered "1"), and you could just hit the numbers 0-9 on your keyboard to choose the ability. So lets say you wanted to choose the wind ability. So you would look at the orb, see the green orb, know that's wind, see a little "3" next to it, so you know you have to hit "3" to equip it. Once you equip it that Orb will glow or some shit to know you currently have it selected.

Is that good? Or would that be too much information on the screen? Keep in mind you would only get a new ability at certain intervals of the game, so you would only start with 1. So the player will also have time to learn that hitting a certain number will result in a certain ability, like muscle memory.

>>171237875
Cant see the turrets, need to be red or something

>>171244545
Japanese office worker culture is insane, anon. Yeah, working for a living sucks, but it's nowhere near as bad in Europe as it is in Japan.

>>171244601
So Stardew Harvest Crossing: Ye Old Edition?
pass

I'd rather just play Stronghold

>>171244732
I'm certain it isn't (I worked 9-10 hours a day doing mindless work, with a 2 hour commute on a tuna-can tube, getting scolded randomly for the most random shit all the time), but it has made me realize that it isn't possible to find fulfillment in life that way, so why even waste so much effort on it?
I'd rather spend that time chasing impossible dreams. Failure doesn't even seem like failure in the light of that revelation.
Better to try and possibly fail, than to just be a slave and die.

>>171244853
>Stronghold
I don't understand how the series isn't dead yet. Every single game after Crusader was rightfully shit on in the ratings, yet they keep releasing new attempts.

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I made the player's animation less pronounced, increased the player's opacity, and made the enemy's animation more pronounced and less evenly spaced. Does this do a better job of drawing the eyes upwards?

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left or right?

Crazy Uber Driver?

Rush Hour Simulator 2017?

Stuck Behind A Truck: Platinum Edition?

>>171245024
Is this a VR trick?

>>171244989
Get a 9-5 with a 45 minute commute. That way you have several hours a day you can use for gamedev.

>>171245024
left

>>171245008
All they had to do was just change the environment of 1 and mafbe throw in a gimmick or two. But Firefly are fucking idiots

>>171245018
can you make the player just slightly more transparent?

>>171245024
Neither is great

>>171245208
>Get a 9-5 with a 45 minute commute. That way you have several hours a day you can use for gamedev.
Or just spend all day dev'ing?
I'll keep going as long as I can support myself, after that I guess I'll consider a part-time job.

>>171245024
Left

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>>171245313
How's this? I set it to 180, which is in the middle of where it was before.

>>171240730
was at 168
>>171245018
was at 191.

>>171245024
Left for sure. Wouldn't it be better to make some frame for a beam, instead of painting it white? It's looks bad.

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>>171244645
Or would something like this look better? (excuse the crude mockup, just imagine some nice looking orbs on a belt-buckle type of graphic) Or does that still use up too much of the screen?

>>171245701
You could probably go a bit lower, but it certainly looks better. I feel myself looking at the enemy more than the back of the player character's head. The bobbing motion is fine too.

>>171246316
I like the wheel but I think whichever one you decide to go with should fade out slightly. This way even with the space they are taking up it won't completely obscure what is happening in that area of the game.

>>171246316
juggling 10 swappable abilities is a little much. Most people will just default to the 2-3 they like the most.

Consider a DMC/Bayonetta style system of equippables ables with an upgrade tree

Hotbars are fucking gross no matter how you skin them

Artist and writer trying to find a programmer for an RPG. Best place to look these days? Used to use NG and Kong, but it's harder to find there now.

Released a couple of moderately successful Flash RPGs (and other genres), the earlier ones are primitive and kind of mediocre, but people liked them.

>>171243839
The difference is that I would be working for myself. I can live with that.

>>171243909
Eventually, I want to create my own IP that will be able to rival with big titles.sky should be high but I think you are right that even working on garbage (albeit related to games) will be able to give me a much clearer view on how to structure a gamedev process.

I can totally feel you. In those 6 months of full-time employment I got to feel the terror I never want to experience again. I hope you get out of this loop of insanity and get to do with your life what you enjoy doing.

>>171243960
It's always great being able to absorb life experience from others. I appreciate it.

I agree that I would most likely fail to meet the deadline which is exactly why I thought returning to parents sounds sane. Interesting how nobody said that was a good choice though.

I'd be more wary of loans if I were in your shoes. I really hope you don't get crushed by their poison. Good luck and thanks for the write-up.

>>171210152
how does one do this and live with it/not lose face? i'd feel so ashamed to have made something like this, and i'm pretty sure everyone i know would judge me very harshly for it as well.

i guess you could always just keep it a secret but that seems tedious

>>171246773
>going back to parents
That just really depends on your parents, I guess.
Mine are terrible, so I wouldn't want to live there, and they'd never allow me to do so either.

>>171246695
Well the thing is that they're not just abilities like in Diablo where like you said, you pick 2 or 3 of your favorite and use those almost exclusively. It's a puzzle game where you're going to be needing to use all your abilities (as you get them one by one), so there isn't really a thing where you pick your 3 favorite and just use those.

I was also thinking maybe if you press and hold shift, the game pauses, and a menu is brought up on the screen with the abilities that you can choose from. You then click on it, then it returns you to the game. But I was thinking this may be too intrusive and annoying.

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>>171246530
Thanks for the feedback!
The challenge is trying to get the opacity to the point where the enemy is easy to distinguish but where it's not too hard to see the player; It's why the player character has the darker-colored horns and wrist-strap, to try and help me incase I ran into this problem.

Here's what it looks like with the opacity back at 168, which is where I started. I'm reluctant to go too much lower than this because that's when it starts to get harder to distinguish the player.

>>171246974
At $500 it's an embarassment. At $10k it's a business.

>>171246974
Are you kidding? I'd be the envy of everyone I know. I get paid 10,000 a month to sit at home and basically make porno for fun. I don't know anyone who wouldn't be jelly

>>171239084
Eversion and RPG Maker VX Ace were made with Ruby

>>171247151
>. But I was thinking this may be too intrusive and annoying.
it is

>It's a puzzle game where you're going to be needing to use all your abilities

Consider trying to condense the abilities into less and add more puzzle variables.
Sounds like youre going for a "hit the target with its color coded elemental spell" thing. Which is just boring.

>>171247151
No reason not to do both at the same time, like the new Doom. Selectable by menu and also by the number keys.

>>171247156
Yeah, getting opacity just right can be a little difficult. I didn't think about it until just now, but what if you were to make the player solid the second a hit connects? It might give a cool looking effect.

Also, do you post your stuff elsewhere? I'd like to follow your work.

>>171247606
I don't post my stuff elsewhere although I'm thinking of making a tumblr or something for it to blog about progress and stuff.

I'm reluctant to make the player solid when the player connects a hit, but I do plan on making the player solid when either the enemy connects a hit on them or the player is put into a state where they lose control (Grabbed or pushed if I decide to do either of those) or are KO'd to give a clearer visual indication that the player has lost control of their character. As an added bonus, making the player more opague in these moments make it harder to tell what the enemy is doing, which should help in reinforcing that if the player is in any situation where their body turns opague they're about to be in for a world of hurt.

>>171246546
this is a much better gameplay gif than the one you posted in discord earlier

>>171235068
He's still shitting out those godawful "yesdev" youtubes for some reason. They get like 10 views I don't understand why he's even bothering.

>>171235919
xD EBIN
Everyone involved in attempts to force memes in agdg should kill themselves for making the rest of us cringe so hard.

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I decided to work on my planet terrain generator for a while

How does anyone learn Blender?

There is so many shortcut keys and so many menus it's ridiculous

>>171249175
stay mad friend

>>171247898
Sounds good! I think I like your idea better about combat tells, I want to see how that looks in practice. I'm interested in seeing more in the future and will follow you if you decide to do a tumblr/twitter later on down the line.

>>171246546
What are the watchers supposed to be?

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https://conceptiongames.itch.io/bokube-alpha-demo

If I could get some feedback from those of you that have NOT played bokube yet to try the kickstarter demo, (Before I release my kickstarter) and get some feedback on it that would be great.

Reminder I forgot to mention Left shift or RB and LB on a gamepad is to sprint roll/roll boku fast without key tapping. (I will update that to be mentioned in-game soon).

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What's that? You haven't watched gogem's new youtubes yet? WHERE IS YOUR GAME?

Look at his wicked progress and awesome game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOhTMFbeeyg

Heed his professional proven gamedev advice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlD9K5mY5n8

>>171249567
>tfw still haven't appeared in YESDEV[int]
might as well just end it all

>>171249631
same tbqh
one day...

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>>171249567
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOhTMFbeeyg
>actually sharing this and thinking anyone will find it interesting
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlD9K5mY5n8
>unironically still pushing marketing advice on agdg when he has no followers on twitter youtube or tumblr and atrocious sales
I ... but...

This man is a fool.

>>171249567
I am only gamedeving so my game can appear in one of these videos

>>171249567
At least he isn't stealing progress posts from agdg anymo-

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlD9K5mY5n8

I give up gogem. I give up on you.

>>171249895
He actually has first-hand experience about what he's talking about in his video though.

>>171235919
you missed the initial "how are my pixels" post and the "I'm stealing those eyes post
t. reading the thread now

>>171249567
>ironically talking like a heroin addict
Sasuga our very own edgy mongoloid.

To the other programmers here, how do you guys get your music and your art? Did you get it from a kind anon who offered to make some for you? Do you have an artist in your team/contacts? Are you using free assets? Or did you learn to make your own? If so, how did you learn and what do you use?

Asking to get an idea for myself because programming is my only real relevant skill so I'm worried I won't have good assets for my games. I can make basic art like logos and maybe tiles but I don't think I'd be able to make characters. Likewise, I've looked into making MIDI music but it seems like a lot of work for something that would sound better if made by a real artist.

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spooky alyum

having trouble with the hands a little bit, they're a bit too darkly shaded. it's hard to suggest a high level of detail and make the hands appropriately threatening without sacrficing the minimalist aesthetic

anybody got any tips?

also, should i make the border around his main body / arms thicker? maybe that would match the hands better?

>>171250726
My own art and an artist on my team. I don't have any music since I'm still looking for a composer to pay for some tunes.

>>171250726
I make music by putting some notes into my DAW and being disappointed at how bad it sounds and never putting it in my game

>>171250726
I make my own music and I'm currently using shitty MS Paint assets. I'll probably find an artist to make a few assets for me when the rest is completed.

>>171250726
>music
Talented friend does it for free. Get you a musicbro.

>art
Collab with an artist for very short jams.

For other projects, I make games with an aesthetic that requires no real art, only a bit of visual taste and shader knowledge. And for the love of god learn some color theory.

If you go the 1MA route, you have to realize that the WORST artstyle is naively trying to be good, "programmer art". You can make ironic shitty art and find an audience, but you have to put some intention into it.

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>>171250726
>music
I make it myself
>art
uhhhh

>>171250726
been doing """""music""""" since i was 13 and cuurently learning art

1MA is the only way

>>171250726
I do all art, music and programming

Learning how to make music was a bitch...but I somehow made out with decent results.

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I can't fucking understand UE4 Blueprint Communication at all, I just want to get a boolean from a different blueprint.

>>171250726
learn to draw it's not hard to draw well

>>171251169
1MA? Explain.

>>171251564
Uno homme army

>>171251527
>it's not hard bro just grind for 4 hours a day for a year and don't forget your loomis

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>>171250726
1ma 1ma 1ma 1ma 1ma 1ma 1ma 1ma

>>171251564
1 man army/ doing everything yourself.

>>171251459
Do you have a reference to the object?

>>171251459
l2program

>>171251667
>>171251717
Mildly concerned of my IQ now but thanks.

>>171250726
Also a 1MA here. If you're wanting to make your own music, look into soundfonts. They're generally a step or two above MIDI in terms of quality, just as easy to use, and there's a ton of free ones out there.

>>171251679
1 hour a day max ez

>>171251726
In the blueprint I want to access the boolean from? The whole problem I'm having is trying to get a valid reference to the blueprint in which the boolean is located, I just don't understand how blueprints interact with one another.

>>171251947
I'm trying.

>>171252306
There are lots of ways to get a reference, what sort of thing are the two blueprints?

>>171247156
I like the look of your tummy kissing game, anon.

Will there be a raspberry combo multiplier?

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>>171252950

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>guy actually says a lot of worthwhile things about good game design
>CANNOT STAND HIS FUCKING VOICE AND THAT RETARDED SHIT HE EDITS IT WITH

>>171252469
Basically I have a pawn being controlled by the player and I need to read a boolean from the pawn's blueprint from the player controller blueprint in order to enable/disable the mouse cursor. It shouldn't be difficult, I want the space bar to lock the player camera and enable the mouse cursor, mouse handling is done in the player controller, not the pawn, so I need the player controller to be able to know when the player has enabled the "camera lock" (which is just a boolean) so it can know when to enable the cursor also.

>>171253103
Extra Credits fucking sucks, though.

@171253103
>>guy actually says a lot of worthwhile things about good game design
he literally regurgitates common sense like its some meditated wisdom.

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>>171253103
>guy actually says a lot of worthwhile things about good game design

>>171253164
'Get controlled pawn'

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>>171253103
>>171253254
prove it

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>>171253394

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>>171236370
this shit is clearly broken

>>171253532
Gave me a good laugh.

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>>171253807
it's alright, could be better

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>>171253985
nah its broken

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>>171253807
Looking good over here

>>171254290
Well that's just misogynistic.

>>171235919
I hate how the funny shit happens when I'm taking a nap

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>spend 2-3 days working on sprites
>wake up today
>realize they look like shit
I hate this.

>>171238519
Sort of a weird theme. I never watched that movie, so I wont be participating. But I hope other anons have fun.

>>171254737
They probably aren't that bad. Let's have a look.

>>171254737
Post one

>>171254926
I want to join the gameplay jam instead

>>171255282
i forgot about that, i scheduled it to start in 3 hours
https://itch.io/jam/gameplay

is anyone actually making a game for it? we should cancel or push it back otherwise

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こんにちは。私たちのウェブサイトは急速に進歩していません。
(圧縮は気にしないでください)

私はここに投稿できますか

>>171254305
>car

>>171255485
what the fuck

you didnt even decide on assets

no I wouldn't be joining

>>171255485
Sorry man, I'm busy with putting this game together now that I've got the game's script outline mostly written.

I've got a lot of typing ahead of me to do and not a whole lot of time to do it in.

>>171255604
Yeah, I'd love to see what the AI was thinking with that tag. I bet it's something trippy.

>>171255620
>>171255732

cancelled then. it's a good idea, push for it as the post dd14 jam

>>171255282
A jam about gameplay sounds a lot better than a jam about a movie. I'm in.

>>171255486
And a ching chong nip nong to you too

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>>171254939
>>171255128
The shading looks bad in motion and the silhouette sucks. Probably gonna scrap these and start over.

I could only understand konnichiha

>>171249264
>How does anyone learn Blender?

Step one is that its 2017 and nobody uses shortcut keys Grandpa

>>171255486
オイオイオイ
なぜ日本語で
このところにみんなは英語だけの悪い奴ら

>>171256225
私は英語を話さない。私はアメリカの文化が好きです、私はTHEWEEKNDが好きです。

I will might try english to speak

>>171256725
>私はアメリカの文化が好きです、私はTHEWEEKNDが好きです。
wwwwwwww

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>>171256725
>I like American culture
I like this guy.

>>171255486
>>171255817
>Konnichiwa. We aren't making progress fast on our website.
>(Please don't worry about the compression)
>Can I post here.

>>171256225
>Shitsureishimasu
>Oioioi
>Why are you writing in japanese
>Everyone here are english-speaking bad dudes

>>171256725
>I don't speak english. I like american civilization, I like THE WEEKND.

>>171256991
>kek lol lmao rofl XD

>>171255990
just fix the red scarf and the white orb on top and it's all g

>>171256725
There are not only Americans, just so you know.

>>171257203
>There are not only Americans
WHAT

>>171256725
>>171257237
Polish people also talk here
Maybe even French people

>>171256725
>implying i'm a pig disgusting american

>>171257357
we have swedes, aussies,bongs, frogs, and huehues.

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>>171256725
OK
がんばって

>>171257357
very cool!

>>171257203
yes ok

>>171257076
i am a you friend

>>171256991
:)

look this >>171255486 information about this you talk

>>171257465
Don't forget the cheeki breeki arujiobros

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>>171257237
he's joshing
theres only us american joes here

>>171257572
I like your art!

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>>171238881
Dude, you should make steve/goal/cube placement in the map itself, not by coords. Just assign them a letter and it will save you a ton of time and get you a ghetto editor.

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>>171257357
>>171257465
>frogs, slavs, and swedes in my /agdg/
>probably mexicans too
We need an /aagdg/.

American Amateur Game Dev General

>>171257763
Go on to /pol/ and you can have exactly what you'd like.

>>171257763
>tfw no freedomchan where only americans are allwed to post and the rest of the world has to lurk

>>171257701
But it's true. Desertdev is from Poland

>>171250726
I do everything except Music.

For music I go to Looperman. It's like 10-20 second loops that people make, royalty free. What I do is I search for music that fits the scene, then look through that persons profile for similar sounding tunes. Lots of artists tend to have their own sound that stays familiar across their music. So I find 3 -5 similar loops, open up my shitty music editing program, and literally blend the loops together into a coherent melody, with only minor editing.

Yeah, all royalty free. Shit, I don't even have to give any credit If I don't want to.

>>171258021
>tfw 90% of the posts would be about fast food

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>>171256725

>>171258204
Do you get good results doing that? I'm interested on trying.

>>171250726
>how do you guys get your music and your art?
bought premade stuff

$10 for character portraits, $20 for UI, $250 for a bunch of vector assets, $100 for sound effects, $20 for music

All premade so its a little limiting, and also kind of a trap because now the game has to be within the bounds of whatever art there is. But its also helpful to have limits

>>171258408
Honestly, yeah. Most of it is cutting and blending the cuts together (which most of the time I do with a quick decrease in volume followed by a quick rise).

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>>171258063
no i assure you, everyone here are American Millennials who are familiar with great taste of P.B. Crisps.

>>171258559
Neat, I'll give it a try then

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nice

>>171250726
>how do you get your music
Don't have any.

>how do you get your art
Don't have any but my shitty placeholders.

Either you get lucky and find someone willing to team or just face it, you will have to buy or do everything by yourself.

I made my first-ish real game. It's a Tetris-clone with 5square pieces instead of 4 square pieces and currently no sound. It's coded in Lua for use with Love2D. Here's the code: https://bitbucket.org/M3cha/pentominus/src tell me why it's terrible

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i warned you about stairs brah

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So due to personal reasons, my partner cannot work for a few months. I can't match his art so I've decided to go back to 2.5D (again) and continue this project solo. I'm trying to go for klonoa/prinny style environments. Curious as to what you guys think

>>171259735
>I've got this
>I've got this
>Don't got this

>>171259735
>IT KEEPS HAPPENING

>>171259735
Is your game called Wobble or something?
Everyone is always so wobbly.
But seriously keep up the good work

>>171259782
The fate of all collabs. I like it but I've a major nostalgia hardon for the era (and Tomba especially) so I'm biased.

>>171236715
looks cool. although if the buildings get redder as they get farther back, the 2nd layer of bluish buildings throws that off

>>171259782
Old frog sprites still look better.
2.5D's cool though, but I don't fully understand, when your artist can begin work again won't you just end up switching back to a normal 2D environment?

>>171259864
i guess im sticking with Dreggs for now. thats the working title.

>>171259982
He's kicking that trash by the wayside because he's smart enough not to be chained to someone who can't commit (I ASSUME).

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Soon.

https://youtu.be/FPp4qb-phrA

>>171259782

jumping doesn't look fun at all

>>171245208
>>171245214
>>171245340
anything specific you can point out as being terrible?

>>171245024
thanks for the feedback all

>>171246084
what beams do you mean?

>>171260139
>what beams do you mean?
I think he means the planks.
And I think he means making an outline (yellow/orange? that's standard "selecting" colors) around the selected plank instead of changing the color of the plank when it is selected.

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Does it look better or worse when running on a lower resolution?

>>171259910
Same, I love that era. And I think the 2.5D would help me stand out, especially since there aren't any indies going for this look.

>>171259982
I'm continuing the project solo.

>>171260057
what do you mean?

>>171260759
Do you think maybe it would look better if you only did the squish on medium/big falls? And smaller ones just an extremely light deform or none at all?

>>171260759
>And I think the 2.5D would help me stand out, especially since there aren't any indies going for this look.
Aren't there other 2.5D projects even within agdg?

>>171260921
Blade of Blood and the strange/interesting Terraria game thing, at the very least, but none that use 2D sprites on a 2D plane with 3D environments.

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>>171249382

>>171261048
*as far as I remember

>>171261061
lookin good lil nigga

>>171260759
I dont get why youre trying for 2.5d, doesnt even seem like youre doing anything extra to benefit.
Your game looked so much better at 2d.

Freddy just doesnt look right and your art-style doesnt either.
Stop Leto'ing yourself and go back to 2d.

>>171261061
>>cult classic<<

>>171261404
>I dont get why youre trying for 2.5d
We've been telling him that for ages but he won't listen, give up.
He's just trying to impress god knows who by making 3D in gamemaker.

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I'm having a weird issue with slopes. I'm very new, working off of tutorials, and I am getting some but not everything. The code at the top of my pastebin (http://pastebin.com/fPufjB8q) is what I think is in question. Basically, I can move down a slope just fine, but my character can't negotiate going back up.

I try and break down this code to understand but I get lost at the part where it says while(!place_meeting(x,y+1,pobj_floor)). If we just said && place_meeting, how can we say while !place_meeting?

And how do I do this/restructure this to go back up slopes?

Should I bother attempting to make a game with a small amount of coding experience? I took a course on it and we did basic garbage about ten years ago. I would like to use unity but, I'm not sure if jumping into it without being experienced is something I should even do.

I've already seen some tutorials and reading code isn't difficult seeing as I've made very very basic text adventures in C++ in the past.

>>171261838
A dumbfuck who doesn't know anything can make a game.

>should you bother
"If you want to"

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>>171261151
What do you mean it looks good it looks like trash

>>171260759

You stay in the air far too long(even on a drop) and the jumps themselves give you an insignificant boost. The dust clouds are a nice touch but froggo looks like he's moving at a brisk pace, and I agree with what >>171260901 said about the squish, but I also think the squish animation needs to play out much faster, because it seems drawn out as it is. which All of these things together give the game a floaty and sluggish feeling, when platformers should generally feel tight and fast.

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>>171261926

Where can I find artdevs willing to make me boxart/game logo/commission them?

>>171261926
I don't like the outline thing going on either, but aside from that, it's good.

>>171262074
>>171261926
Who even are these devs and what games are they making?

>>171261926
>>171261061
I actually thought it looked kind of nice. Gives me early PS2 game vibes.
Just, for the love of god throw some AA on

>>171243889
Can you rewrite this in English?

>>171261838
Its okay, 90% of unity users dont even know C# and just skiddie everything from store assets and SO

>>171260901
I just reduced it.

>>171261404
>>171261723
If I go back to 2D, it'll have to be the style I originally started with, and I'm not happy with that. I just want to make a 2.5D platformer.

>Your game looked so much better at 2d.
only in agdg do I get this response.

>He's just trying to impress god knows who by making 3D in gamemaker.
when have I ever even bragged about doing 3D in gamemaker? It isn't even difficult to do, so who could it even impress?

>>171262151
>fleech
The game with the physics box men
>russian
a shitty platformer and unity asset store shit

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does this look like fire or jello? never mind the walk animation I am too lazy to work on it right now

>>171262151
Shout:
>Furry tetris backpack simulator RPG
Thumbtack:
>Megaman Battle network ripoff
Scarf:
>Some game about throwing robots

>>171262409
It looks like a bunch of leaves taped to a sword.

>>171262279
Nintendo have Fast Racing Neo which is basically a spiritual successor to FZero.

But no one knows about it.
And i have no idea why they didnt just make a new one or at the very least a GX remaster

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>>171261920
And just like that I've become more powerful.

>>171262293
I figured. I guess I'll give it a shot. I'm just more so worried about hitting a wall when it comes to quality but we'll see how it goes. Thanks anon.

>>171262409
It looks like a sword made of coach McGuirk's hair

>>171262314
>only in agdg do I get this response.
Where else have you posted?
2.5d is extremely hard to make look and feel good. Thats why its not nearly as popular.
> I just want to make a 2.5D platformer.
doesnt seem like it considering you just have a 2d game with a different camera.
> and I'm not happy with that.
then improve it.

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>>171262191
>Throw some AA/camera effects on.

I see.

>>171260139
The title aesthetic clashes with the menu aesthetic, really badly and the title looks pretty squished and also blends in with that unfortunately placed poster.
My advice would be to put the title over a part of the background that is less busy and has better colour contrast and also make it more dominant in terms of size and position. Also consider making the menu bars more synth wave; that detailed woodgrain doesn't mesh with the room behind it, let alone the title style.

>>171262717
>got rid of the jaggies finally
praise jesus

>>171261729
I've never done slopes before and I'm tired as fuck so maybe this is retarded, but for going up slopes you could do a placemeeting with your xspeed and if you're gonna hit a slope then you set your height based on the proportion of your distance across that slope tile. I'm too tired to help debug code, sorry.

>>171262717
I actually liked the outlines, I just wanted them smooth

>>171262717
Have boku sit or lean over mp spikef who's spike is facing straight down.

You have too much asymmetry.

>>171262717
I feel like there's nothing in the center but to the sides is just bombarding me with information

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>>171234774
Here's a logo you can use for demo-day.

>>171262409
Came to say it looks like leaves too. The leaves falling doesn't help.

>>171249217
Talk about this please

>>171259782
Tough break. The current environment looks dark and lifeless. But you should keep doing the best you can.

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>>171263073
Ok il place him in the center with his friends then!

>>171262917
:( I cant get outlines to be smooth so il just add even more AA

>>171263040
Hows this pic related? I figured having him and his friends riding on eachothers heads and he jumps off to get the puzzle cube. (cough the puzzle cubes of the game etc etc bla bla bla).

>>171262409
Looks like a $2 halloween prop made of thin fabric.

Have boku sit directly on the spike lol

>>171263671
bad.
Get rid of bokube and spike man and just slap the logo in the center.

>>171263671
The top is just empty

>>171263821
>not showing off your MC
lol

>>171263671
Do you actually think the spike cube in the foreground looks good?

>>171263671
Put Bokube/the cast in the logo itself - you don't need to show him separately.

>>171263671
Perhaps a cuter 2D bokube + friend would be better...

>>171263671
yea move the spike way back and the other character foreward.

>>171263870
Plenty of posters dont have the MC. And 2bph, bokube is not a good or interesting MC

Bokube dev abandon thread. There is nothing good for you here.

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with a little editing it fits right in!

>>171264265
>. There is nothing good for you here.
Weve been helping him for ages now, fuck off

>>171263935
this

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Added in a hand model, I've really duct tape and WD-40'd the current implementation though.

I think I'm gonna actually write out on paper the way I want the different pieces to talk to each other in a more robust way and redo it, before I make all the animations and particle effects.

>learning 3d modeling
>for the 10th time

How do I stop myself from giving up again? I always learn for a week or two but I never feel any progress

>>171264339
what kind of hellish toaster are you on mang

>>171264708
he's clearly devving at us from the year 2007

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Finished the shmup and platformer Game Maker tutorial from that Benjamin/heart beast guy. From here which tutorials or reading material should I follow to learn more about making a platform game in GM to get the knowledge to cobble together my own shitty platformer?

Asking for myself of course.

I'm currently playing
The Witcher 3
Deus Ex: DLC Fiasco
Doom

I'm purposefully dragging my feet on Doom because it's so good I take it in gulps. Witcher 3 feels like a giant game that will last forever. Deus Ex is exactly what I always wanted gameplay wise but the story is totally watered down bullshit compared to the original.

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>>171263821
Noted

>>171263836
Time to start meme shitting some title fonts bare with me.

>>171263872
I have no idea how to make boxart but im trying.

>>171263879
Noted I may do this later if I keep failing.

>>171263934
Need to find someone to commission for this so Idk I do want some 2D box ar/a new logo commissioned though.

>>171264001
</3

>>171264265
But you are here.

>>171265294
kay

>>171264708
why?
>>171264809
this computer is from 2014, recently got it
my last one, the one I started devving on, was from 2009

>>171265505
correction, it was from 2008

>>171265505
He was teasing you about your framerate during what looks to be a fairly simple game.

>>171265354
best one yet

the title should be white, maybe with a subtle second color

>>171265573
oh that's because of the capture program, without it I hover in the 105-120 FPS range

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made an item that lets you fly, and god damn it these fucking shitty shadows are biting me in the ass again...

debating of dropping them altogether or replacing them with circular ones below the units.

but i really like the look of the on the terrain and such... but somehow on that flying character it looks like a giant dark blob that follows you around or something.

any opinions of this?

>>171261926
>>171262717
>>171263671
Get that giant pink rhino dildo out of your game and stop being silly you know it looks like shit. Cmon bokube straighten up and fly right.

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>>171265354
Bokube N E E D S to be smaller and farther away with your current concept.

Or else scrap it all and just do something like pic related.

>>171265746
maybe i just made it too big? but it follows the same way i used for everything else.

>>171265805
It's like looking up reference material is beyond him. Either that or he just likes (You)s.