/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

First for I'm making a visual novel.

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Second for making a RPG

Languagedev

Third for nodev.

I've got a ton of ideas that I want to make, but I have a hard time focusing on completing just one. I keep wanting to switch and work on some other idea part way through.

How do I dedicate myself to finishing one idea?

>>171298557
>>171298540
FUG

>>171298628

>corrupting your ideas by making them into games

>>171298594
Does anyone still have those link resources that were posted here about language development?

>>171298685

>a fucking leaf

>>171298540
Looks like there's a problem with collision detection.

>>171298628
I made peace with the fact that I will never be able to create all of the games I want before my time on this earth is through.
I made peace by promising myself that I would make as many of them as I could without sacrificing quality but also not becoming obsessed with perfection.
I will make a game to the best of my ability at the time, hopefully become a better dev in the process, and then make the next with this increased skill. Rinse and repeat.

>>171298512
Hello there anon. Making a Kinetic novel here.

>>171299067
Yup. Current implementation is just an absolutely horrible and unoptimized piece of shit. I just wanted to have a visual indication of my progress, for a change.
I'm currently working on making it not shit.

>>171299076
>without sacrificing quality
>not becoming obsessed with perfection
Nice oxymoron, by saying you won't sacrifice quality you are already falling for the perfection meme.

>>171299308
I mean I won't rush through it and be satisfied with placeholder boxes, broken mechanics or stolen sound assets. I will do my best, with my current ability, and won't become obsessed with going back and redoing something if I get better at it during the process.

>>171299235
>a visual indication of my progress

Carefull. Shit leads to heaps of bad, rushed code that you'll end up not feeling like rewriting later and potentially scraping the project. Happened to me before.

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Making an Advance Wars clones. Will PCfags get butthurt if there is no mouse support? Keep in mind, the movement path drawing from Advance Wars feels a lot better with d-pad/keyboard control.

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>>171298512
>>171298540
Oh? So am I. I think. I'm not sure what the official designation is for this game.

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What do you guys think about using this kind of weapon transition? I'm gonna be using abilities which I have 10 of, and I was going to map them to the 0-9 keys and just have permanent little icons on the screen that show which one is being used at the time. Would something like what zelda is doing here be better?

>>171299530
Why wouldn't you support mouse? It's ridiculously easy to program.

>>171299492
I hear ye. My solution is pulling an all-nighter the day after doing that; night-coding is always motivating.

>>171299530
You don't actually draw a path in Advance Wars, though. You choose a goal tile and the path is the shortest path to the tile. No mouse needed.

>>171299530
>>171299829
Er, what I mean is that the mouse works just fine. Not sure how that came out as "no mouse needed".

>>171299829

You can draw paths, too.

>>171299987
Why would you ever want a path that isn't the shortest path?

>>171299591
I have sort of mixed feelings about it. On one hand opening a menu to switch weapons/use items/whatever can kind of break the flow of an exciting battle. But on the other hand it's super useful to have so you can make switches without having to worry about misclicking and fucking up.

Of course it would also be fine to have both as an option. And in some games instead of pausing while the menu is open, they simply slow time down. That could be a good compromise between real-time switching and paused menu switching.

>>171300043

To avoid fog of war which might cause a unit collision.

Why are you still making a shitty 2D pixelshit game to bloat an already heavily saturated market?

Be smart and learn Blender.

>>171299530
>frog
>question
when will devs finally start posting their games along with their questions?

>I'm still getting a few views and downloads here than there from my DD13 game
I'm gonna make it fãms, I will be the next Notch.

>>171300178
Presently and for the last several years. Welcome to /agdg/.

>>171300125
I'm waiting for Godot 3 before I start making a 3D game. But my dream game is 3D, so I will be making one.

>>171300125
Video games in general is an ovetsaturated market

In unity, raycast only hit if the ray cross the object complety?

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>free
>open source
>liberal license
>consistently updated
>can run scripts in both C++ and Python
Why aren't you making your game in Panda3D, anon? Why are you letting yourself be cucked by Unity, GMS and UE4?

>>171300125

We done have the several million to spend on making it not look like complete garbage.

>>171300370
Both C++ and Python are awful.

>>171300125
It's not the amount of dimensions that will define your game's chance at success.

>>171300248
Is that a bad thing? Most of it are shit bad games from bad indie devs that will eventually quit the industry.

Do you think video games will get to a point where there genuinely won't be any real original games at all and all games are just rehashed ideas and whichever one looks best does well?

>>171300473
Use a droplet of creativity and pick an art style that doesn't require AAA realism.

>>171300210
It's just me.

>>171300557
Obviously

>>171300492
For talentless hacks like you, sure.

For anyone with a working brain, some genuinely interesting mechanics can be written.

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I love particles.
Slowmo on purpose.

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>>171299598
>>171299829
It's not about difficulty, the game actually works with mouse exclusively right now. But I was playing the original and realized the movement path drawing worked different and it doesn't feel as good with a mouse.

This:
>>171300104
It's small, but important.

>>171300178
Fair point.

>>171300574

Then you'd complain it looks like SNES 3D.

>>171300681
>(You)
>alive
Neat. Where's the demo?

>>171300661
Wannabe devs that have flooded the industry and will die out in the next couple years and eventually lead to a "crash" with people not wanting to make games because "it doesn't make money" will be perfect for us with autism enough to stay in the industry and survive.

>>171300547
It actually does to an extent. Your pixelshit will just drop into the ocean of them.

3D has a smaller market and a larger appeal base.

>>171300570
No because I'm not a myopic minded retard who only sees games for their boiled down similarities. You can do that with all media, thankfully if you don't see enough original ideas out there you have the chance to make your own. Instead most people just complain.

>>171300679
"Genuinely interesting mechanics" can be implemented in anything.

>>171300687
You're a fucking idiot.

Wind Waker Link looks great, and is extremely easy to model.

>>171300570

No, because the number of potential game ideas is effectively an infinite value.

For a turn-based RPG should I hardcode skills like "Attack", "Defend", "Wait", "Use Item" or should I try to create a modular system that would allow me to create any skills including the Attack,Defend equivalent? Is it worth the hassle?

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>>171300687
I'm not the original baiter but why does your mind immediately regress to pixelshit?
A game like Thumper is attainable by a one man dev using shaders and blender. No AAA textures and animations needed.

>>171300881
>it's easy to make a game look like Wind Waker
Ok nodev. Try taking a Unity tutorial some time.

>>171300681
Can you give Shroomo some Tums? He looks like he's on the losing end of taco night

>>171300570
No because current generations are forgetful/naive and view things in a completely different light to how older ones did with the same media.

That and you can mash old ideas or mechanics together and see what you get new out of it. E.g mash Intelligent Qube, Q*Bert and Persona together and if you squint you might get something that vaguely resembles Catherine

>>171300125
Polishing a 3D game is much, much harder than polishing a 2D game. But I'm only in gamedev to have fun. I don't have a goal to support myself from this. Obviously if it ever gets to that point, great. But I don't expect it and don't plan for it.

If you really want to make money doing game dev, just make a porn game. You can EASILY make 100k a year if your art isn't dogshit.

>>171300881

It doesn't look how you remember.

Many technical limitations of the gamecube become hugely apparent.

It isn't the timeless art style that people used to assume it would be.

>>171301014
The only difference is that you override a virtual method instead of switching on an enum. When in doubt, go with the virtual method approach. Then it will be really easy to add more skills in the future if you need to, whereas with the enum approach you have to go through and modify all the switches.

>>171300370
You have convinced me. Though their name is bad the logo is okay. I will give it a shot.

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>>171300737
>Neat. Where's the demo?
Soon™
Gotta make new enemies and player animations

>>171301098
Kek

How do you feel about turn timers in single player games?

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>being a neverdev

>>171301451
Just...why?

>>171300125
One of the reasons that I make game is that AAA turned the genres I like into 3DPD or 2D with skeletal animation.

>>171301548
Force players to make quick decisions based on estimates instead of brute-forcing a solution, which is the best way to play but is also kind of boring.

>>171301668
Why even make it turn-based, then?

How do you make First person melee combat fun?

>>171301628

3D ruined platformers, imo.

>>171301715
Why play Chess with a timer instead of a real time action game? The answer is that the experience is different.

>>171301746
Mount and Blade.
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.

>>171301451
I feel like the main point of turn based games is having time to think about a move. I can't really think of a reason to have turn timers in single player.

You can add other real time mechanics though. Like the rolling health meters in Earthbound. A character wont die if the health bar animation is still going down, so if you're quick you can save them with healing.

>>171301668
How can turn timers reduce players brute-forcing a situation? Wouldn't that make them want to brute force it more? Because they wont have time to think of strategic alternatives, so they'll just go for the easiest way.

Limiting the number of turns in some way could maybe work though.

>>171301818
Chess isn't fucking singleplayer.

>>171301818
Chess was designed to be turn-based and the timer is just to prevent games from lasting for hours.

>>171301451
Depends on the sort of game you want.

It's like the difference between realtime roguelites and roguelikes, do you want it to be frantic or deep?
Personally I'd really dislike having a time limit in a roguelike.

>>171301746
Do literally anything except make melee weapons have one attack that's just a short hitscan in front of you.

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reminder

>>171301023
Not him, but pixelshit is tried and true, and its been done, it has tutorials, communities and a following.

On the other hand, coming up with something like your pic - a unique style and pleasing aesthetic (not that all pixelart looks the same) can be challenging and may require planing and hard work, which is beyond many of us aggydaggs.

Also, whats with the "t." thing? I've been away for a while.

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>>171301265
>Though their name is bad the logo is okay
That isn't the real logo, this is the real logo.

>>171275731
I think this is a great idea. I've thought about this and assuming my company isn't big enough to where I would just want to buy the mocap stuff, I'm hoping to need a service like this in 8-10 years.

If you seemed sharp and competent, I would invest in you (in a theoretical world where I had money to invest).

Two things will determine your success in such a venture:

Your ability to generate awareness in the different local groups that need such a service (small devs who are biting off more than they can chew, small filmmakers, whomever else)

Being in a city that actually has enough population/creative need for this. I don't think this would fly just anywhere. LA would seem like the ideal market, and beyond NYC I don't know how many other cities across the country could support it. Probably less than 10 in 2017, maybe just 2 or 3.

>>171302373
I know right? What a reektard (You) are xD

>>171300125
>Why are you still making a shitty 2D pixelshit game to bloat an already heavily saturated market?
the only thing saturated is pixelshit platformers

pixelshit RPGs are a relatively untapped market

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>>171300370
HIGH-TECH GRAFIX

>>171301873
>How can turn timers reduce players brute-forcing a situation?
It prevents players from going over all possible answers because there is no time to do that, forcing them to use a heuristic.

>>171301903
It could be? This is a really odd thing to say.

>>171301934
The way you play Chess with a timer is very different from the way you play it without one. The purpose is not just to make games shorter. It is to alter the way you play them.

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>>171302252

>>171302662
Are you for real?

>>171302474
I feel lied to

What's a game with a good flaming sword I can use for reference? At the end of my rope here.

>>171302750
name some pixelshit RPGs

go

>>171302749
poetry

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>>171302816

>>171302510
I don't think so.

Professional mocap systems are about to become obsolete. We have depth cameras and inexpensive chink sensor-based systems that can be bought for under $2k right now.

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>>171302816

>>171302816
>>171302904
I should have specified: 3D only

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>>171302828
Oficcial RPGmaker site hosts 3994 games
go read their titlesw fag

>>171302691
>It prevents players from going over all possible answers
It forces them to go for the simplest solution. If they don't have time to think of a more elaborate way to beat an encounter they're going to just brute force the simplest solution.
I guess if your game has no strategic depth then it wont matter.

>>171302510
>great idea
no it isn't

Mocap is extremely cheap nowadays, you can simply use a repurposed Vive and trackers for example.
In 8-10 years it will be literally everywhere.

>>171303050
why is he dancing?

>>171303153
>Mocap is extremely cheap nowadays, you can simply use a repurposed Vive and trackers for example.
where are your mocapped animations then

>>171302816
Just make it a normal sword with an orange tint and some particle effects.

Reminder: if you are making pixelshit you will NEVER make it. And even if you do, NOT A SINGLE PERSON will want to play your pixelshit game.

>>171303050
Thank you this looks pretty good

How can I rotate the screen in unity, for a top down shooter?

>>171303248
Indie game studios are already using them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R0TVLGne3U

A mocap studio aimed at indies is a dead-on-arrival idea unless you make it pathetically cheap or something.

>>171303086
>2017
>le reddit viper man
hang yourself grandpa

>>171303086
name some pixelshit RPGs that are actually playable and that people actually buy

like there are tons of pixelshit platformers that are good and that people buy but the market is still oversaturated with them

for rpgs there's like undertale and nothing else

>>171303392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khoer5DpQkE

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http://journals.sfu.ca/loading/index.php/loading/article/viewFile/73/72

>tfw agdg is too pleb to implement this

>>171303458
LISA

>>171302749

>reading turns you into a fat white tumblrite

noted

>>171303336
Good thing I am making pixel art instead of shit.

>>171303392
If anyone here is planning on buying it, make sure to do a research first. Some people say Perception Neuron is not as perfect as people claim it to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDXXFnoDJvU

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>>171298329
Allocating new strings is a really really bad idea.

Something like this should work.

>>171303392
cant you just use kinnect?

>>171303360
Furries and Gays need to get the fuck out of my thread.

>>171303650
ok there's LISA but that kinda blends into the oversaturated pixelshit platformer market anyway

just don't make it a sidescroller and your game will look different from most pixelshit

>>171303858
at least 50% of 4chan is gay/in denial

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>>171303458
I'm not going to name shit.
First you say the market is saturated with platformers and that pixel RPG's are untapped market, now that you got cockslapped with 4000 pixel RPG's you want those which sell good and are popular, as if the whole fucking world was waiting for you to make one, because the rest is just mediocre, but yours will be like a shining diamond in a pile of pig shit.
Right.

>>171303138
Any solution is a solution. You're just trying to win. If finding the simplest solution isn't challenging then the challenge was artificial in the first place.

>>171303392
>>171303153

thanks for the info. I'm guessing this still isn't as good as the professional-level stuff, and primarily I was actually thinking about the tech that captures all of the subtle factial detail with cameras as seen here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmrXK4fNOEo

I guess I should think twice next time before I try to provide business advice to an American Anime Board.

>>171303960
>50% of the general population is gay
kys fag

>>171304023
>got cockslapped with 4000 pixel RPG
4000 pixel RPGs that nobody fucking buys you autist

it's called developing an argument genius
>because the rest is just mediocre, but yours will be like a shining diamond in a pile of pig shit.
you say it like that but yes that's going to happen

i'm also not using fucking rpgmaker so suck it

>>171301023
I've just gotta say... I ran into a demo reel of this game running at Frys the other day when I was buying Doom (2016)... WOW. This is my design aesthetic to a T. I'm gonna buy it as soon as I'm done with Doom.

What are you guys playing these days?

>>171303597
I was considering this once pucks come out - IKINEMA have an indie license for UE4 for only £99 so theoretically it should be fairly straightforward to record animations. The only problems I have with this solution is that you can still see the solver is not perfect 1:1 at all times and no way to record hands either. I am starting to think that investing into Perception Neuron might be better considering that this Vive solution would still cost me £500 on top of a headset (I already own one) compared to perfect full-body tracking for 1500USD.

>>171304221
Where is your game?

>>171304445
Nice blogpost. Do you even have a game?

>>171304221
>4000 pixel RPGs that nobody fucking buys you autist

yes, exactly, remember that, because that is what awaits you
because it's a stupidly niche genre nobody fucking plays anymore

thinking you're going to climb over all competition and on first try at that is pretty fucking delusional

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>>171304612
i have a mockup
>>171304616
>because it's a stupidly niche genre nobody fucking plays anymore

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>>171304616
>s(he) makes 3D games

hey senpais /agdg/ :3

c-can you umm.... make me art for my game please??? ):
i'm just a cute programmer girl lol


..):

>>171305150
post game

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>>171305150
I'm tired of your bullshit

>>171305150
Post code

>>171305150
>i'm just a cute programmer girl lol
post face

>>171305029
I do. Now what? Are you gonna ask me where is it?

>>171305150
can you do voice acting?

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>>171300682
Just support both. There's no reason not to. Some people will prefer a mouse. I agree that directional buttons feel better though.

im making the same game, but I keep getting pissed off and progress stops because I can't get the AI right

>>171304612
Yes I do. Not posting anything yet but it's going pretty well.

Does anyone who has ported to Mac with GM:S know if your game key rebinds work 1:1 with it or do you have to make a Mac specific set because of some weird way they handle their keyboard logic?

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What's an every day bit of furniture which could function as a start/end/tunnel for a toy train?

Sorta unusual post but if anyone needs a male voice actor I gotchu. I'm not talking potato mic, I mean actually good stuff. Want to get some extra credits under my belt.

Yey, i made the most boring mall ever.
https://youtu.be/Ag8cckj-l2o

maybe they will hire me to do the next dead rising.

>he thought he was a game designer
REEEEEKEK

>>171300370
>Keep horrible ugly screenshots in your gallery
Why? It'd be like Unreal having Unreal 2 screenshots in their gallery or Unity having a gallery.

>>171307487
build it out of blocks or books or w/e

Remember, Reek. Your name is and always will be Reek.

>>171303743
Thanks. Don't get it, but saved for later. Apparently I could also be using TryParse instead of Parse, but I'm shit at code so...

>>171307308
Why aren't you using Unity?

>>171307935
Wow. You're really in a tizzy now. And it's all going to be archived. Enjoy having it shown off in court when the FBI finishes building their case on you. :^)

>>171307487
Couldn't you just use the box that the toy train came in?

Reek is fully in meltdown mode now. Just watch that proxy slut go. Fucking trannies, so easy. :^)

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>>171303647
18 pages of bullcrap.
Shittiest prototype ever.
Never even ponders if an implementation of NPCs this way would break the game because of NPCs attacking each other or not being where they are supposed to be (it totally would).
Doesn't ponder what happens after a long term simulaton when everything balances out and the players start behaving in the most deterministic manner possible.
Crappy paper written by an idea guy with 3 months of programming lessons under his belt.

>>171308271
Okay reek.

>>171307308
I believe keys will work fine but macOS reads gamepad input differently so if you have controller support then you'll need to change some of the button values. I may be wrong though I'm not sure.

>>171307487
yo >>171308484 is a ffucking genius use that

Riiiiiiicolaaaaaaaaa!

Hahahahaha. I own you. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

>>171308493
how would you implement a game about realistic NPC behaviours?

>>171308885
I do own you, Reek. For 2 years so far. Make it another 2.

>>171307487
A couch with an arching base

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>>171307487
book ends would make for really cool portals if you wanna get into changing worlds since this is a pretty common kind of bookends

When will the "unity looks like shit" meme die?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6rR-890Gb4

>>171308970

They walk in a random direction for a random time period, or stand still for a random time period facing away from the nearest wall, unless they hit an object which will reverse their direction and they will stop for a random period of time before walking in the direction they're facing for a random period of time, unless they've collided with objects before the timer runs out twice, in which case their new direction will be set to 90 degrees from the old one.

Riiiiiiiiiicolaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

I own you and I own this thread. I am the puppetmaster! You are going back to jail, you and googem. That's what you get for making threats against my family. :^)

>>171308970
Are you saying it's hard?
First of all define realistic, that paper considers realistic the fact that the NPCs react to each others statuses and act accordingly, triggering changes on those statuses. This can be really crappy if you have 4 actions, or it can get interesting if you have 200 actions available for NPCs. It's not really hard at all, the complexity comes when you need NPCs in a game where NPC interactions with the player are necessary to beat the game, in that case you just implemented something that is almost non deterministic and will probably break your game in a thousand different ways.
This system could be applied to games like the sims, where actions with other NPCs are not crucial to beat the game (there's actually no 'beating' the sims anyways).
But yeah, nothing innovative or particularly hard about that paper.

>>171309460
At the time the "ms paint looks bad" meme dies

>>171309513
but rpg maker is crap anon.

>>171309571
but the SIMS is garbage.

I want to make a game about NPCs doing NPC shit.

>>171309691
Welcome to the bad opinion zone.

>>171309460
When steam direct happens, and unity isn't synonyms with scam devs.

>>171309691
>but rpg maker is crap anon.
what did he mean by this?

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>>171307487
>>171308484
Just adjust the art however you'd please.

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>>171309460
when you make a good and good looking game using Unity instead of something like pic related

>>171309538
>he says while unironically dancing on strings for 2 years
What a nigger lmao

What makes your game unique?

>>171310254
Unprecedented levels of retardation

>tfw drawing good pixel art is too difficult and making good looking 3d models in Blender is also difficult

How do you even make good assets for your game?

>>171310385
GITHELP

>>171310385
keep practicing until its not too difficult

>>171309691
You lost me there anon, not sure where you are going.
I initially answered to the dumb frogposter that claimed it was hard to implement (he said agdg is too pleb for it). My response was that it's not hard, it's just a stupid idea for most games.
Then I explained in which kind of games you could use it without turning it into a game breaking nightmare (you can use it in any game that does not rely on interactions between the player and NPCs, or you need to make sure that they can't be killed and that they still interact with the player no matter what).

You need to be more specific about your question unless it's just smooth shitposting.
also the sims 1 and 2 are great games, fuck you

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>>171298406
I would say thing are getting pretty serious.

>>171310686
have you played Dwarve fortress anon?

compare DF to the sims and tell me how great is the sims.

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PROGRESS

>implemented basic SSO for my custom string class
>idle FPS is 2-3x what it was before
>could optimize further, but will probably do so only when performance becomes an issue
Next is optimizing Map and/or Entities. Gonna get that FPS towards 4k again.

After I get that done, I'll probably start creating a proper input handling system.

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>>171309106
that's fucking cool

>>171310316
Looks like someone is triggered

>Buy decent asset from unity asset store
>Never use it because I always get bored and switch projects a month in

>>171310984
2 more years :^)

>>171310731
what's that? Mig 23?

>tfw trying to fix a bug for 10 minutes
>the problem was I was using Pi instead of 2Pi
I keep forgetting that a circle is 2Pi. Tau just needs to become the norm already, Pi is shit.

>>171311286
>#define Tau 2Pi

how to model butt and tiddies

>>171311368
I'm using an engine.

>>171311286
Don't blame Pi for your faulty memory
Also norms are memes you can use whatever you want on your code. Why aren't you using Tau if you want to use Tau?

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>>171311439

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Welp. Heres my """""progress""""".

Visually it's not much different from how I did my level generation up till now, but this is just a bad generator. The thing is, I can now have the Master Generator object spawn a bunch of pre-defined spawner objects that will act in different ways. For instance, I can spawn one who's job is to turn the map into an island, or draw a road, a lake, a boss arena, etc... Still need to write those obviously. And write some basic logic that makes sure they all connect to the main level branch. That comes tomorrow though.

Yes. I'm aware I could be generating the levels way waaaay more optimally.

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>tfw you realize you're going to need to enginedev

>>171311243
Yeah.
I dont know if I should go full autist and try to incorporate all parts in a single layer.

>>171300232
>waiting for godot
mild kek

>>171311635
What kind of game idea do you have that requires you to enginedev?

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Good morning agdg

>>171311816
Intergalactic Dwarf Fortress

>>171311834
Now show us your pussy.

How bad is using if/else in shader code?

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>>171300370
>https://www.panda3d.org/reference/cxx
>Obsolete version. Do not use.

>>171311926
"very bad" but I do it fairly often and don't take any performance hits.

>>171311926
twice as slow than not using any

>>171311926
It's probably fine. Depending on what you're coding in, you'll have hidden branches and conditionals that you don't even know about.

>>171311926
Branching is not inherently bad in shaders. What you want to avoid is having multiple invocations in the same group branch differently. In a compute shader this is pretty easy to figure out since you decide what the groups are and how they split up the work. It's also easy in a fragment shader since shader invocations are grouped into tiles, so you want your branches to be as spatially coherent as possible (i.e., if you graphed the branches taken for each fragment, you'd end up with a picture that is mostly big blobs of the same branch). I'm not sure what the standard grouping for vertex or other shaders is but typically you only use branching in a compute or fragment shader.

Anyone familiar with this error in GML?
>Push :: Execution Error - Variable Index [1,0] out of range [14,0] - -1.unit(100119,32000)

How the fuck is [1,0] out of range of [14,0] ?

>>171311926
>>171312275
Also, if every invocation takes the same branch (i.e. you branch on some uniform expression) then it should be basically free.

>>171312312
Never used GameMaker shit in my life but it sounds like the 2nd part [0] has NO elements in it. It should probably have at least one. [14,1]

>>171312312
Can't have an index with zero height sonny.

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>>171310837
>>idle FPS is 2-3x what it was before

Good man. Bravely posting progress, attempting to save aggydag. And they say people don't believe in heroes anymore... You and me Max. We're gonna give them back their heroes!

Why did the volunteer stop deleting Admin's posts?

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>>171312614
>>171312483
I dont know if I understand right. so [0,0] would be invalid but [0,1] is not ?

>>171311926
what is your conditions? what are you trying to do? i find that when needing an if/else there's usually a way to do it with math

>>171312989
Coordinates start at [0,0], the [14,0] tells you the width and height of the array, not its coordinates.

If the array is [2,2] then its only coordinates are [0,0], [0,1], [1,0] and [1,1].

You are making an array of zero height so it can't have any data.

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I guess I should unit test my code

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>>171312792

Is depth of field a meme? Should it be avoided?

>>171313402
It can look good. It's great for allowing the players to pause the game and take bullshots, but that's when players are in control of the focus. If you fuck up the automatic focus adjustment, it will look bad.

why is wrong to enginedev if you're in CS in a college?

>>171313402
It has it's place, like any graphics effect

>>171313402
Use it in moderation, what this guy said >>171313573

>>171313402
Depending on the game type, it can be difficult to use well. You never want to blur something the player needs to see. But if you have a specific use case in mind you can give it a shot.

Point being, don't just plug it in and expect it to look good. Use it only with specific intent.

>>171313649
Moderation? What's that? Some sort of new-fangled shader library?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJc41uYDPk8

I'm making high fidelity 3D games.

Should I abandon Unity and take the time to learn Unreal?

Every single "feature" in Unity works fairly poorly and I am tired of coding things myself. The only reason I haven't switched yet is I like C# more than C++ and I like the quicker compile times, but is it even worth it at this point?

Unreal devs please share your experiences.

Depth of Field NEVER EVER looks good.

Prove me wrong.

>>171313402
It looks acceptable in real time cut scenes and such but generally I turn it off cause it feels too blunt in the vast majority of games.

>>171312312

Probably "1" is actually less than the integer 1 due to MUH FLOATS

Try using the round() function.

>>171313841
I'm short sighted. Depth of field is great when you have to talk in front of a group, but can't bear to see their face.

>>171313835
Yeah the compile times are a shame, thought it has gotten much faster in a recent update and you can use blueprints for that kind of quick iterative testing anyway.

Personally I can't see myself going back to Unity.

You're all always talking about doing a tight game with quick placeholders and then hiring an artist to do the art.

Is the opposite possible? Making a minimally functional game prototype with fully done art and then hiring a coder to do the code?

>>171313835
>I'm making high fidelity 3D games.
>Should I abandon Unity and take the time to learn Unreal?
yes

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>>171313841

>>171314326
that looks terrible

the realistic textures clash with the cartoony characters too

>>171314246
Sure, as a coder having all the art ready from the start would be lovely.

>>171314107
Can you sell me on it a little bit?

For example, I see things like "master materials" sometimes when people are working with UE4, do you know what those are? Also I hear it has a built in node based shader editor which is pretty cool too.

The thing is I really want a compelling argument to switch because I have a ton of C# code that if I want to continue to use, I'll have to port to C++.

>>171314246
Depends on the game. For a visual novel or a mystery game that could work just fine.

>>171313835
Whether or not Unreal is "better" in terms of workflow, it is certainly better in terms of visual fidelity.

>>171312312
>>171312989
I have had a lot of problems with arrays in GML, but now I have "tamed' them. Can you post code that makes that problem? I will probably help.

>>171314326
>falling for the "literally anything you respond with I'm going to say you're wrong" bait

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so turned up the force recoil by 500%

pretty much what you would expect.

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>>171314778
>pretty much what you would expect
>arm literally rips off

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Is this true?!

>>171314990
No.

>>171314990
how many times are you going to post about crossdressing?

>>171315203
until you stop responding

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Got some basic neighbor-aware tiles thrown together for making farmland, although I think I'm going to make the middle tiles totally solid dirt rather than having noisy edges, so its a solid shape with no grass poking through.

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Google Drive folder update, what a wonderful world edition.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6j4pcv3V-vfb3hKSlhRRzlLbFE

Demo Day is over and it was marvelous! We've got a chance to finally play all those games what we were excited about, and on top of that, we got to see many wonderful fan creations based on them. I've updated the folder with ~70 new items, so that's a lot of things to browse, and a lot of content to say thank you for!

- Cube-chan: some images I only got in thumbnails now added in the original resolution
- A kind anon drew concept art for those who asked for it
- Bokube got a clay figure (or marzipan?), and some other… things…
- Art infographs, game design etc.
- The girl from Traveler got another reaction pic
- Group pic from ages ago
- Fun, misc., etc.
- Mishima from Towards The Pantheon got a nice drawing
- Proof was posted that the Demo Day 9 painting is still "hanging" on a wall in a room on this planet in our reality
- Battle Network Clone fan art
- Theonian got a 3D printed /agdg/ logo with some hearth warming message
- Demo Day 13 group pictures from 5 different artists (if I can distinguish the styles correctly)
- The MoGiSho fan art I've mentioned earlier got finished
- Frost fan art
- Girl in blue with the skull, you know, from the game where everything explodes got some fan art (and edits)
- An anon posted some eyes as a free resource, and other anons went wild with it
- Pantsu harvest fan art
- A music bro shared a free album to use
- Moth girl fan art
- Cyber-Vania fan art
- Umbrella Warriors fan art
- An anon modeled a bookshelf with books recommended by anons from the thread

Thank you for the wonderful games and the motivating creations! See you at the next DD!
Have a nice day!

>>171315712
Remember to split tiles into quadrants. It reduces the complexity a lot.

>tfw agdg is full of gamemakerlets
GameMaker was a mistake.

>>171314578
Master materials are just materials which have a set of exposed parameters (variables basically)
You can then create a material instance (child) from this and change the values of these parameters in the instance.
The instance will update with any changes you make to the master and do so without needing to recompile multiple materials. So if you need 4 different colors of wood, you'd just make 1 wood master and then make instances of it with different shades.

The material editor, animation tools and UI editor are all top notch, good landscape editor, sexy and diverse graphics, I feel every little thing is just nicer to use than the Unity equivalent.

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What weapons or shields should I make next?

>>171315856
The most complex and polished games here are the in GM.

>>171315976
>Hmm how do I add ____ feature in my game
>_____ feature gamemaker asset store
>nice my game is gonna be so good and polished

>>171316124
Name one agdg GM game with assets.

Anyone looking for idea guy?

>>171316408
post idea

>>171316408

Sure.

Tell me how to update the combat system of a Bethesda-like game (open world RPG, first or third person). Basically so it doesn't play like total ass. How to make combat more satisfying then just spammy light attacks, power attacks, blocks?

>>171316664
Impossible
Next

>>171316664
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic

>>171310828
Both are great and yours is a false dichotomy.

>>171315763
>Have a nice day!
y-you too

>>171315763
Best post ITT

>>171316956

Could you explain WHY that game has good combat instead of just posting it?

I've already downloaded the game since last time and while the combat is certainly faster and more dynamic then Skyrim but it doesn't feel that much more controllable. Enemies never die unless you kick them into shit or use magic or the carefully scripted big barrel drop shit, you just attack them with your sword until you get full adrenaline and then finish them off with a slow mo so epik fatality.

The fuck is the game so overrated, I'll never know.

>>171317396
Git gud

How do I design a good combat system?

>>171316664
Try playing one of the Dark Souls games with a first person mod. It works quite well, and would be even better if it was designed that way instead of being hacked on with a Cheat Engine table.

>>171317785
Define "combat" in this context

>>171313295
I feel like I understand what you're saying but what's happening doesn't make sense. I must have a fucked up for loop or something or data is being passed incorrectly
>>171314740
dude if you can figure this out i will love you forever

http://pastebin.com/gkk5UYUS

It's probably something simple because it always is for me, but i'm not seeing what I am doing wrong here

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Need/want a sprite? Give me a (You) and maybe you'll get it.

>>171317906
I don't even know where to start. Do I want my game to be fast paced? Slow paced? Turn based? Do I want to include dodging/rolling? I don't know how to brainstorm this shit and I don't know how to make sure what I end up with is fun.

>>171318084
do you even know what you like?

>>171318084
Nigga, what is your motivation to make games?

>>171305348
depends, what engine are you using?

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How's this for selecting your ability? You'd press shift, hold it, and select your ability that you want to equip to use. Either clicking on the ability or letting go of shift takes you out of the ability select screen. Time is slowed to 10% of the original speed while selecting.

>>171318032
Arrays in most languages start counting at 0. When you have an array of size [14,0], it has an array of 14 elements. (0 through 13] wide and none [none!] long. Not even [1,0] is valid. A length of 1 means you can access element 0. A length of 0 (which is what you have) means there are no valid elements.

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>>171318041
Make a 16-bit representation of this (yes, that's the best I have)

>he's making a pixel platformer

>>171316664

Mount and Blade combat system that has been use in a few games since.

>>171318041
Milana Vayntrub is a fuckin goddess

>>171318165
I-I like a lot of games
>>171318217
I-I don't even know ;-; I want to make something people enjoy and I want to tell a story

>>171318041
MUH DICK

>>171318041

>normies find this 3D shit arousing

>>171318041
this woman is ugly

>>171318416
>Arrays in most languages start counting at 0
Okay, I know that.

>When you have an array of size [14,0], it has an array of 14 elements. (0 through 13] wide and none [none!] long. Not even [1,0] is valid.

This is what I don't get. First of all
>for(i=0;i<participants;i++)
If the number of participants is 2, how the heck am I getting 14??

Then
>with(instance_create(irandom_range(0,room_width),irandom_range(0,room_height),unit[i,0]))

Just so im sure I understand this right, for 'unit[i,0]' "i" is my length, and "0" is my height, right?

>>171319002
>>171319004
Her physical form is irrelevant. I get off from imagining the sound recorded by that mic when its rubbed on her tits

>>171318032
Okay, it's hard to test without some testing in GM:S, but let's try that.

You have that "other.creator.participants+=1". Assuming there are 8 units around square, that counter would become 8.

Than go with that loop "for(i=0;i<participants;i++)".
It will check for number 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 AND 0, so it's more than those 8 you wan to check.

Simply try "for(i=0;i<participants-1;i++)" instead of "for(i=0;i<participants;i++)" and write if that helped. If not, we will try other things.

>>171319002
People who talk about women in terms of "3d" or "2d" disgust me.

>>171319250

I forgot to add in my post

When it comes to info like " //Push :: Execution Error - Variable Index [1,0] out of range [14,0] - -1.unit(100119,32000)"

GM:S tends to post some random number in those arrays if ther are wrong, at least that's what heppened to me a lot of times.

I'm bored but I don't wanna work on my gamd

>>171319346
Why?

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>>171319346
>he loves 3d women

>>171319531
When I get bored I play 100% Orange Juice, it never doesn't make me not bored

>>171319604
It's so... Out of touch with reality.

>>171319781
That's the whole point

>>171319531
It's St. Paddy's. Go out and get hammered.

>>171319346

Yeah, true, m8.

We shouldn't grant the badge of honour that is 'woman' to these 3D abominations.

>>171319995
Its St. Patrick's Day?

>>171319995
I don't have any friends to drink with. Also I got drunk once and I felt incredibly sick the next day.

>>171319346
Right? 2D should be the only way since they're perfection. 3D "women" are just overglorified sex toys.

>>171320140
>I got drunk once and I felt incredibly sick the next day.
That's called a hangover, anon, it's natural.

>>171318032
>>171319250
>>171319454
Almost forgot - also you can try to start loop with "for(i=1;i<participants;i++)", so it will start counting from 1 and you will have those 1,2,3 (...), 7,8.

>>171320254
>normies poison their bodies thinking alcohol will make them more sociable
kek

>>171320445
You sound bitter anon. Who hurt you?

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>>171310731
I will stop here my back hurts

>>171320445

It's worse.

They get addicted to poisoning themselves.

Truly a sub-species.

>>171320535
What is it

>>171320282
>>171319454
>>171319250

Thanks, I gave it a shot, using i =1 and I don't get a crash, if there is only 1 unit surrounding the square, however they aren't spawned ( I dont think the loop runs?) If there are more than 1 it runs but crashes with the same error message.

on the plus side my debug message is counting up the participants up correctly and giving the correct names for them..i just don't understand why that isn't being read from the array.

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Not much visual progress yet but this is how the windows look so far.

Bye Reek.

>>171320445
>thinknig
it does
you just have to know your limit, otherwise you will either go off the fucking rails and do some stupid shit you will barely remember next morning, or quietly drink yourself under the table, both of which tend to leave a massive hangover and a feeling of regret and anxiety in introverts

>>171319781
>2D girls aren't real

you're blowing my mind here

>Anon tells me to learn c++ and sfml for 2d
>It's hard
>Quit and use gm
>it's easy
Did I get memed on? Is there a single reason to use sfml over gm?

>>171321765
>using C++
>without proper formal education in CS

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What does it need agdg?

>>171322041
>tiddies
>signs(?) are too sharp and not affected by the fog(?)
>more AA
>tiddies
>something below the world

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OK, rasterization is working great and it only took me the entire day
I decided it would be neat to have it output each step of the process and make WebMs of that nonsense, so I did that too
Now I have to do UV unwrapping, and I guess figure out why my tetrahedron subdivisions are fucked up

>>171322208
>>something below the world
some horizon blur or (whatever it is called when things are more blue and blurry when they're further away), and some islands should do the trick.

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>>171322367

>>171322041

delete it

i want to fucking die

>>171322367
Muh dik.

>>171322719
there is a 100% chance you will experience this one day!

>>171322719
>try to develop a game
>develop anxiety and depression instead

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>>171322959

>>171322959
>try to develop a game
>realize how stupid you were to think that you can do it
>carry on with your life having learned from that experience

wow that was hard

>>171320782
Loop runs for sure, the problem must be somewhere else.

Things worth checking:
1." for(i=0;i<ds_list_size(units);i++) // while there are still units in the list" - if we have 8 items on the list, it will check from 0 to 8 (so 9 positions) - same thing as before
2. Your alarm event works like this right now:
>create loop
>create instance of unit
>take stats (like hit_points) from current object.

Shouldn't those stats be taken from creator?
So basically
hit_points = other.creator.unit[other.i,4]
instead of
hit_points = other.unit[other.i,4]
?

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>>171323074

>being a quitter

>>171322957
Unless it's instantaneous and you don't get a chance to feel it.

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>tfw you suck so much art art you can't even do pixel art properly

>>171323435
Just needs some shading.

>>171323435
>you talkin' to me?

>>171323597
I don't understand this pixel art how do you draw really good pixel art compared to what I have

>>171315974
You should figure out an actual style instead of reposting this shit in every thread.

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started working on chapter 4. still need to improve the breakable walls sprite and particles

>want attention and praise for game
>no game
What do

>>171324204
Just like...

Make game.

>>171324204
just like..

>>171324204
Make some pixel art gifs

>>171324204
collab

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Ok I added some blur when you choose your ability to make the gui pop out more but I'm not sure if the brightness increase is overkill now or if it makes it look better. This is with the brightness. I'll post the one without the increase in brightness right after this

>>171324293
And pretend it's game?
And get Kickstarter bux and never show up again?
Brilliant