/parag/ - Paragon General

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>>171087885
Let me play Yin...

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Which hero do you always do well with, /parag/?

>Last thread reached over 750 posts over the night
Da hell? Whats' with the sudden burst of speed?

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Now that the bitch called "Aurora" is nerfed how should I be building Shinbi?

More damage? Defense? A mix of both? I really wanna play best girl.

>>171090045
Everyone wants a piece of dat Chinese pussy.

When the discount ends? I have 1700 coins from chests, might buy some skins with it.

>>171090045
New hero

Hi. Im that player.
Offlane or mid when the ally jungler does not gank I get to lvl 5 then afk jungle myself. You tell me to retreat from jungle but since im on console I cant respond with a fuck off. I outfarm every other player and hard carry the team to a win.

What im basically saying is junglers can get fucked.

So, tell me about your experiences with Necroveil in Countess.

>>171093376

It's gewd.

Do you need to activate Hunter's Guile / Censer after Aurora caster her ult or when you are in stun? Does it prevents damage the damage from if you activate it after she casted?

>>171094201
after cast
hunter's can't even be used while stunned, which is stupid

Oh boy

So what's the deal with Serath my dudes?
Never played her, but since she received a nice buff Im thinking of trying her out.
Is she still a carry or jungle? Or is she now an Offlane champ?

Also what are her must have cards in her deck or just what I should focus on building?

Every guide I see out there seems a little dated imo.

>>171097502
Attack speed, Lifesteal and Crit, iirc.
I guess build Whirling Wands and/ or Windcarver Blades and Curse of The Leech with Sword of The Altar.

>>171089927
Shinbi
But I can't carry a team with her.

>>171090161
Ash of the witch a tele blink with no upgrades on it. Hunters guile. Vine heart all HP upgrades. The rest do what you want.

>>171098047

I really want to play her, but she never has enough mana and you're doing a lot of work to stack wolves.

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>tfw playing dekker with a team that actually follows up on your stuns

>tfw people unironically picking greystone above silver

must enjoy being fucking useless

>>171101060
Play her off lane not mid. Shinbi does not need to spam her abilities in either lane through.
T. Master shinbi

>>171101060
Iv seen shinbis get 6 stacks on you in like 2 secs. You gotta use ur dashes for the stacks too. Witch is why you carry tele blink.

>>171102359
He really is useless. The most he can do is be the most annoying lane push intercepted ever.

>>171103027
Honestly, I just do push the lane back at him and never try too kill him alone because it's such a chore.
You have to get through his tankiness, avoid his slow/ damage with your escape, catch him after he uses his escape, then kill him again while hoping his teammates aren't rotating on you. It's such a hassle.

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>>171102359
>tfw when people still bitch about Greystone
At the absolute most his abilities need to have a slightly higher mana cost, but people act like he's crazy overpowered when he's barely in the top 10.

>>171102359
I don't understand this meme. He walks up to me and shreds my health and people call him useless

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>>171104776
>tfw when
God damn it

>>171102359
>>171103027
>>171104509
>>171104776
>tfw Greystone main
I'll just be here pushing your lane and hitting you for 500s

I rolled so many card packs I got an extra Ash of the Witch. Crafted Stinger boost for Yin. Can't wait

>>171104903
why are you letting him walk up to you though

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>entire team get mercilessly harassed and called NUUUUBS by our shitty Aurora whose whole game plan consists of jumping into a group of enemies, ulting, and hoping they can get out alive they didn't
>check their agora
>1.39 KDA
>currently in-game as Twin
>overall KDA with Twin is 1.13
Makes me wonder if they have the slightest idea that they're the problem. Why is self-awareness so fucking rare?

>>171105543
Watch it not be as amazing as people are making it out to be.

>>171105560
I can't stop him from walking up to me with no CC
I stay far and walk back but he can jump and has a shit ton of range on his Q

>>171105796
It functions like Rapid Fire Cannon in League of Legends. My build already has 80 crit and 100% crit bonus, and about 30-40 attack speed but I want more attack speed. I've yet to try thermobond you know building 8pt cards is a total bitch

>>171105954
Spacing isn't some secret technique under lock-and-key at the FGC headquarters, anon: know that he can close the gap and keep an appropriate distance away so that, even with it, he can't catch you. If he makes moves in your direction, turn around and run in a straight line to the nearest teammate or tower, or ping for help before it gets to that point.

>>171106108
>80 crit
Completely unnecessary, my dude: at least 20 of that could be dumped into damage or attack speed. At least.

>>171106320
>unnecessary to continuously crit on every auto
How about no

>>171106208
If I can't 1v1 him he isn't balanced

>>171106592
well math says you're doing it wrong but feel free to continue to gimp yourself because you like seeing big numbers pop up

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>>171106742
>If I can't 1v1 him he isn't balanced

>>171108064
500+ on each auto says I'm doing it right

Unless your math thinks critting 40% of the time will win you a trade

>>171108212
>but the big numbers
ok man whatever stay silver

>>171108212
>500
Lol

>>171108337
>>171108335
Except I'm about to be plat
Stay mad because you don't know how to build decks

>>171108212
he said take twenty percent of it off, not half of your crit chance
I don't know about the math but 50-60% crit chance is what feels right to me and what I build towards to while putting points on other stats
If you're going crit, you already need to make a big CP investment and below 50 doesn't make the investment worth while over 70 is just too much of an investment where I can apply those stats to power, attack speed and lifesteal

>Enemy team pick Iggy
>No ranged hero on the team dares to destroy his turrets
Nice game faggots

>>171108615
Simple. While you're doing 200 per auto and are waiting for a crit, I already killed you because I crit every shot and lifesteal scales with crit so I healed faster too.

The difference in power you probably think it is, isn't. Because if I take away 2 3pt crit for 2 3pt power the difference is 36 power.

I need more diamond chests baby. After I level up me masteries, is there any free way to get them? Can they randomly drop?

>>171109031
You're assuming that person just dumped everything into power. A proper balance of power, attack speed, and crit will out-DPS you every time. It's basic math.

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>make new friends yesterday in the new hero/patch bliss
>actually win a bunch of games, great times were had
>today, get invite while building deck, excited to play
>see we have a new third, lvl 40 so he's one level higher than me, probably good
>new friend picks yin, goes offlane
>o-okay man, if you think so
>other person in group goes sparrow
>"play dekker"

It went fucking terrible.

Sparrow is on her second game ever as Sparrow, just holding down the auto-attack button and not even trying to get last hits. Yin is getting shit on in offlane.

Try to stay non-toxic, but when the surrender vote comes out I say yes and say, "Good Game!" It hangs at 3 yes 0 no 2 abstain, we continue to play

We actually lost! Crazy, I know.

After game, instantly un-friended. As if I give a fuck, since they were console peasants anyways.

.

>>171109375

I've had silver chests that contain gold chests that went on to contain a diamond chest that I got two keys out of.

>>171108517
>plat
Lol

I have yet to cross paths with a good Yin player.

Do they exist?

I have 1,600 coins on hand and I'm wondering if I should get the Steel bundle or two other bundles with stuff I don't really want
I don't really like the Steel tier 3 skin either though but I play him a bit
I wish they would come out with more tier 3 skins for champs I actually play

>>171110373
Steel is pretty shit now senpai

I wouldn't.

>>171110504
Steel's still good, he's just not as good as he used to be. Still got a better ult than when he was on Legacy, but it's much harder to hit with than before the nerf.

>>171110504
I'll probably hold onto these coins until I see a tier 3 skin I like and will actually use and wait for it go on sale
this is really tempting not to just waste them on this year one sale
>>171110504
>>171110703
that steel nerf is was a bit excessive, they should give it a bit more range than it had before, all he has going for him is his bull rush and his ult while his bulwark is completely useless and his big wall is very situational

>>171111005

IMO hoard your coins. cool new shit is coming out.

>>171109554
Yeah genius you don't know anything about my deck so your "basic math" is just you assuming it's hard to reach 80 crit
You're also assuming that you need to dump everything in power to reach high levels of it.

Basically from the start you're assuming a whole lotta bullshit because you can't build decks and like to do abstract geometry.

Have fun stuck in your elo, you ain't getting out.

>>171110250

The first Yin I played with yesterday was good, or maybe I'm just a really good support Rampage.

>>171110250
>yin is bad
What is this meme. She's a monster especially late game.

>>171111564
I never said that it was hard to do. 80 crit and 40 attack speed is terrible on every hero. I also never said dump everything anywhere, I said a balance of all 3 is optimal.

>>171111781
She's good in theory but I've never seen one person do anything with her but feed incessantly

>>171111941
>hi this is my first moba!
>attack speed it bad guys especially when you rely on your autos
>especially when people can dodge autos

>>171113137
literally who are you quoting

>>171106742
By that logic, your hero would be overpowered if you did beat him.

>>171113512
no if I win it's skill
if I lose he's overpowered

>>171112116
Really? I play her and I usually reck and I've seen them dominate

>>171113512>>171113628
If I can't have an equal chance at winning 1v1 he's unbalanced
Nobody can 1v1 Greystone with equal CP and exp

>>171113137
I swear it's the same faggot that posts this "must be your first moba, lol" shit every time someone disagrees with him.

>>171113798
Does that mean Dekker is underpowered then, since pretty much everyone can 1v1 her?

>>171113798
It's called match-ups/ picks and counter picks. Why do you think people are always going on about team composition?

>>171114237
Nothing counters Greystone

>>171114845
Everything with good stun, slow or escape can counter him. Or with an armour reduction card in deck.

Although I agree he's still a bit overpowered now.

>>171113805
>gets mad when he gets called out for it being his first moba

>>171115235
There are about 3 new cards with counter measures to stuns/knockup cleanses spell blocks heals

All he really needs to do is build 1
And if he is actually skilled he'll just fuck everybody up

>>171114021
Yes. Her ult must stun for the full duration.
Take that, Aurora!

Which hero is the most underpowered one in your opinion?

>>171113628
If I lose it's op pls nerf
If I win it's gg ez

>>171118630
right now serath

She is hyper carry tier and shes alone at the top. Especially in everyone picks yin meta serath gets even strong because most of yins kit is useless against a melee carry.

>yin
>medium ranged carry
>mobility
>can stop projectiles
what a fucking nightmare

>>171119592
>point and click juke
>longer range than Serath
>useless
?

>>171118630
The Fey. Epitome of useless if you have no coordination

>>171120323
Yes she has on ability that gives her range and cleave. Very useful against serath gap closer so every fight is a melee fight.

1v1 serath wins every time.

>>171119836
Yin is basically long range late game. Her W on a 8 sec cd duration 6 seconds.

>>171114845
What lane does yin belong in

>>171120412
What elo are you that you can't dodge Serath gap closer? And build a blink card retard. Dozens of actives and you don't want to use any. That's called artificial diffcu5

>>171113798
I do it with Narbash all the time. Don't be a shitter.

>start of game
>adc picks ward
>places it fucking in middle of nowhere
>goes back and gets healing pot + dmg tokens
wtf??

>>171121181
Define "middle of nowhere".
Putting an empty ward in your deck to stick on the river before minions spawn is good practise, and it only costs 1/40 of your deck.

>>171121181
anywhere that isn't in lane and behind t2 is pretty much a good spot for a free ward m8

>>171121181
>baby's first encounter with a dummy ward
cute

Paragon does f2p right but I almost feel bad never feeling the need to spend a cent on this game.

it's a "i'm the support so everything is my fault" episode

>>171124271
Drop 10 of your local currency on some coins and buy a skin/ crate+key when you feel you've sunk a reasonable amount of time into the game.

>>171125107
>why didn't you stun that guy exactly when I wanted you to?!
>why aren't you following directly behind me for the entirety of the game?
>why aren't you placing wards to protect my stupid ass every time i move location

Does anyone know if you can stack Crit Bonuses? I just fought against a Yin that had Agora Blade and Heart of the Apex in her final build. She did a shitload of damage and I'm trying to figure out if that was why. Or if Crit is just better than Power. I was playing Seraph going full power. Yin was winning in our 1v1

>>171126204
You can. Passives labeled "Unique" won't stack though.

>>171126204
You can't stack anything with [Unique] on it, city bonuses included

>>171121690
explain this dummy ward meme to me please

>>171131119
take a 3 pt shadow ward at the beginning of game

place in river/enemy jungle

tele back to base and pick the starting cards you actually want

you now have a free ward for a little bit and can see what the enemy is doing/incoming ganks

>there's no good r34 on countess

:(

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>>171131585

They fucking ruined her with that lip ring anyway.

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> tfw 4 losses in a row
It feels like it became worse after the update.
I seriously consider evading all drafts with Yin for a month or so.

Just met this super toxic Yin who spammed GJ on every occasion and went foll caps in chat.
Look at his match history, even if he wins, he feeds. A threat to himself and others.

>>171131820
it's a stud, bud

>2015+2
>not wanting to hatefuck countess

>>171132072
> not wanting the countess to sit on your face with her latex ass

>>171089927
literally none.

>>171102359
greystone gets picked in tournaments. not often, but sometimes. i dont see a problem.

>>171109798
>console peasants
>please don't act this way, paragon is a cross platform game of peace

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>>171133168
>>171131820
>>171132072

>>171133675
Cute.

Piercing haters gtfo.

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>>171133976

>>171131119
>>171131293

As Belica, I take my dummy ward to the enemy jungle and place it near the enemy green buff.

When the jungler goes to do it, I rotate through river fog and hug the right side. I can see the health of the minions and the jungler. 9 times out of 10 I steal the buff and am able to finish off the weakened jungler.

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Today's been a good day, just carried a game and finished my Greystone mastery and got a crate from the game. I was hoping to get any banner from the crate and got just that too.
I want to keep playing but the lag spikes are getting crazy wtf ebin

>>171135960
I want a banner so bad i have 2100 but i wanna roll it

>>171136221
I was gonna drop some coins I got from a chests on one of the banners they're gonna sell this week but it's just best to wait it out and roll one, they're too pricey imo

>>171136415
Why do you even need this stupid thing?
It's not like you can design a custom one.

>>171136984
It's just something extra, cool to have after taking a tower or a kill

>>171135519
Damn anon, I honestly have never encountered that before. Good shit.

>>171135519
>bullying junglers
Die

>>171137374

i want to make a video of it. it works way too well, and I'd love to show it off. What's anon's preferred video program? do i have to pirate sony vegas?

removing debuff cards let you walk out of gideons ult right? Like censer and guile?

>>171108212
>500+ on each auto says I'm doing it right
What character allows that with so much speed at the same time? Tim are you lying to me?

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NA_Player, where's your retarded ass at? I'm calling you out.

>>171137476
Do it, I've been wanting to make paragon videos because I feel like there are hardly any good ones out there. But I'm too busy with work and shit.

As for software, I have no idea friendo.

>>171140102
>falling for meme coins
>not just day trading

wew can't wait for the crash

>>171140661

Yeah show me that 100%+ ROI on your 3 fucking day trades per week.

>>171135519
Lmao I've noticed a couple people do this, you're not gonna play me like that fucker.

>7 consecutive wins over past 3 days
feels great

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>>171133976

Aweful taste my friend. Shit is unsanitary as fuck.

>>171139060
Is this a joke? 1 3pt Kinetic card is 16.5 attck speed respectively you only need 2 and grt the upgrade bonus while adding either crit or power

It's like this general is full of shitposters.

>>171139060
Any of the carries can hit that much on a crit. What do you mean "So much speed" - that's a pretty low speed for 80% crit.

>adc sub 50 cxp
>free xp

>adc above 50 cxp
>walking death train

>>171141382
>6 cp of attack speed if enough
>going max crit is good

m8 we have the math. Like you can't dispute this. Going full crit is bad and putting a low amount of attack speed is also bad.

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>>171141112
> unsanitary as fuck
What does it have to do with attractiveness?
Besides I think it is perfectly sanitary if they do it in decent shop.

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>>171141761

>Having holes punched through your face is considered attractive

You obviously just like attention driven abusive issue centered whores, anon. Admit it.

>>171140238
>>171140897

vegas pro downloaded, replays taken. let me whip something together here. first time using this shit, you're not getting a commentary.

>>171142331
>>171135519
>ganking the gankers
this is some 4D level chess

>>171141638
Ahh the shitposter.

Is the Fey going to be revamped?

I can't be the only one who thinks she's bad

Any tips on playing/ building Rampage effectively? I'm having success with attack speed and one big Tempered Plate, but I'm not doing the crazy shit I see happening where pro Rampages bully the shit out of everyone and rack up a high kill count.

>>171143935
As soon as you get lvl 5 just tower dive and rock and fuck up squishies under tower.

>>171143238
Fey is so garbage ill never understand why people play her
>1456 elo
>picks fey
>does nothing
>tells us fey is solid

>>171144452
Sounds like a quick way to get myself killed, but I'll give it a shot.

>>171145151
Fey was my main on Legacy: she has good wave clear, a free ability attack (build some ability pen and it hurts like fuck late-game) and she has good cc with her slow and ult. A Fey that knows how to manage their mana effectively can hold a tower almost indefinitely.

>>171145391
Tower basically does nothing when you have your ult going, I use clearheart and a bit of health regen on another card so my regen during ult is pumping late game.

>>171145714
>Clearheart
Now there's a card I'm going to start using. Thanks, anon.

>>171143238
>>171145151
>fey
>garbage
People who dont know how to combo

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Holy fuck this build
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/deckbuilder/en-US/decks/MezMezzy/6b97ef97-1716-4524-9f13-8e0534ceb3d7
>most of the game bully the shit out of everyone to face me, even the enemy Serath
>midgame, enemies take their time to isolate me and I mostly face 3v1s, until I decided to stop being solo after 2 deaths
>lategame 88% crit, 100% crit bonus, 1 shotting minions and even ability doing upwards of 500 damage
>Kallari thinks she's hot shit taking Raptors
>get in there and kill her, kill raptors for health, kill Aurora pushing safelane, die to Crunch and Feng combo
>Come back, solo OP only to have the Kallari take it from me
>not too mad since they can't do shit with it
>Take their jungle buff because ynot
>Get a bit too bold against their Feng, and he combo's with their Serath to kill me
>See OP is about to come back and their Kallari is kill
>Tell team I'm gonna solo OP when I come back, they just need to keep up the offensive
>Either we get Orb and then we can take Inhibs and destroy core ez, or we don't get Orb and we still get their inhibs and damage their core
>Team for some reason, ditches offensive to help me
>"You absolute niggers, if we lose the advantage, I'm gonna lose my shit"
>We don't
>We win
Now that was a wild ride. It worked out for us, but people are so quick to ignore.

Also, Windcarver is for chumps

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>>171137374
>>171137462
>>171140238
>>171140897
>>171142517

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pyOMJi4N7Q

Here you guys go. It honestly took me longer to disassociate my real Google+ identity and create a brand account than it did for me to chop that video together. Youtube tutorials for transitions and exporting as .mp4, self-fulfilling cycle mirite.

No commentary because I'm not ready for that yet, but here's what the script would look like.

Hello everyone BLORTH here with a quick tip on how to place your dummy ward to gank their jungler at green buff from mid lane.

I immediately grab my dummy ward and beeline straight to the enemy jungle to drop the ward and immediately retreat to safety.

Later, when the jungler is working on green buff, I rotate to the fog wall and wait until the buff is low. As you can see here, I actually miss Feng Mao with both of my abilities, but still manage to get the green buff.

At this point, the jungler is in a bad situation. I leveled to 3 off of that and he is still level 2 with half health and half mana. If he sits to fight me, he has to wear down my green buff and deal with the damage. His best option is to run. Unfortunately for Feng, he chooses this a bit too late and I finish him off with green buff intact as I grab river buff.

There are three conditions that will allow this to go off without a hitch. First, mid-lane being pushed to the enemy tower will give you the time and space needed to attack their jungler. Second, the don't have their own shadow ward sitting in river, this is a decent counter play because the enemy jungler is very enticing and a rotation from the opposing mid will most certainly kill you. Third and finally, you're not near dead yourself.

That's all for now folks. Subscrube and like for more Paragon tips and tricks. :)

>Tfw you just beat a dev while he's streaming
Exciting game

>>171151991
FOOKIN WREKT

Thanks for the vid bro

>>171153587
Which one? Sundown?

>>171154206
Superville, He was muriel, I was feng mao

>>171151991
lol anyone here /bbg/ this reminsd me of lucy
not as annoying just making me nostalgic for hating tripfags

>>171155095

op anon what is /bbg/lucy

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>>171155343
just a trip fag from /bloodborne general/ who would always brag he could do X hard thing (i.e. defeat x boss without dying) in game an then go make a video to prove it. he then spammed his webms constantly.
you arent as smug as him but it just reminds me of that...

>>171155624
>without dying
er i meant taking damage, obviously you defeat bosses w/o dying

>>171155624

Oh. Not trying to be smug at all, but I get what you're saying. I suppose I could convert these to webm too. :^)

It's a tactic I've been using for some time now in high gold and it seems to have a pretty high success rate. It tends to snowball me early and sends their jungler into disarray.

>>171120551
Prob right. But off can be done. She is a carry.

I'm still having bugs with the menu. It won't display what I get in diamond chests and when I open card packs I get stuck on an empty screen. Is anyone else having these issues?

>>171156873
yeah they're known issues.

>>171151991
>Hello everyone BLORTH here
Plz no

>>171157101

thx m8 this is why we have trial runs on these things.

what do you suggest?

>>171157237
I'd suggest the computerized meme voice, and skipping on the "BLORTH here", we know your channel name, you don't have to repeat it. it's something I hate about most channels these days.

>>171157237
get an anime intro instead

>>171158184

not much of a weeb myself, any suggestions?

>>171157402
it's like the video equivalent of those guys that sign their forum posts even though their name is right there next to it

-Anonymous

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What kind of sick joke was this game? If I hadn't killed 3 of them by the end of the gsme and pushed mid we would've lost

Funny this Serath autist was saying I'm the problem

>>171151909
mate... don't do make me do this...
>silver
>like, not high or low silver but SILVER
>toxic as well, it all fits
>0.85 KDA on a carry
>viper bolt on a crit build
>touch of thieves
>no cards built for early power spikes
>88% crit chance build with lifesteal but abysmal attack speed
terrible build mate, it doesn't seem like you're doing too hot on Serath either

PSA for my fellow Yurofags: don't play after 23:00 GMT unless you're looking for a way to get rid of hard-earned ELO.

>>171164398
why

>>171159482
5 seconds of evangeleion intro, then a cut to being hit by the stun rock with loud sound

>>171159482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcG79IVMf00

>>171163871
What's wrong with Viper Bolt? I'm open to suggestions, and the Touch of Thieves is just there, but never used, instead the Curse of The Leech is used. And the attack speed is enough, you don't need more than 33 from cards. That's effectively a Major and a normal Kinetic card's worth of attack speed.

And yeah, can't leave the damn place. Really wanna rise, but I guess fate just has worse in store for me.

>>171164398
As an amerifat who played during that time I deem this to be true. Nothing good

>>171164473
The quality of the teams goes to shit in the small hours because there are so few people playing.

wew after a horrible draft full of fighting and people not getting the heroes they wanted we somehow dominated.
i was hoping someone would dodge because i was sure i was going to be a shit show. sometimes teams just work out.

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what does this little star mean on agora.gg

>>171168312
https://agora.gg/supporter

>>171168484
oh thanks

>>171167094
>And the attack speed is enough, you don't need more than 33 from cards.
It isn't really, you should have almost double that spent on speed.

>>171168993
I heartily disagree, since that's enough to attack about 3 times every second, and considering I do about 540 damage each hit, it's enough to kill most enemies

>>171087885
can i /r/equest someone to put the gimp image too big window on the OP image?

>>171169090
>>171169090
Your build:
215.20 / 538 Crit
DPS: 681.50

Optimal:
209.20 / 523 Crit
DPS: 734.21

Feel free to lose out on 50 damage a second though.

>>171169468
>what is dodging

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>>171169146
like so?

>>171169580
yeah like that thanks anon

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>>171169736
is this better? i cut it out of a pony image i got off google images so i tried to remove part of the eye, or u want a v with just the mouth like the original (+ no pony border on the dialogue window like so)

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>>171169801
well i'll just post v3 just in case anyone cares or whatever

>>171169801
actually that's probably better now we see more of steel

>>171169564
yeah if you're a baddie who hits 1 shot every 10 I guess you'd want that 1 shot to hit hard

Stinger Boost Twinblast, good idea or bad idea?

how are you building your tier 1 mlg pro Narbash decks?

>>171172940
6x Bounty Stalker

our post rate has been better in the past two weeks, with more substantial posts filling the gen but we only average about 40 posters a thread. I know there's more people who browse this damn board that play paragon so what gives

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>Active
For 6 seconds, on hit with ability, gain vision of target(s) for 10 seconds.
>no upgrade bonus
>5cp
Was this card put in the game as a prank?

>>171173658
Of all targets?
Can you hit a minion and see where enemy heroes are?
Lol, I know you can't, just a wild idea.

Patch that fixes issues is live fan

> won a game
> a new patch, please restart
> no rewards
Great.
Epic manages to irritate even with positive things.

>>171176350
Where are the patch notes?

>>171177037

We will be patching tomorrow at 4 AM EST. The patch will be addressing the following live issues:
Fixed PS4 crash issues
Fixed an issue where the Open Chest page would become unresponsive
Fixed an issue where cards were not shown and players could not exit when opening a card pack
Fixed a localization bug regarding Yin
In addition to these fixes, we will be implementing a feature that will let us better track down latency issues that some players may be experiencing.

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>winning a game
>everyone just fixates on me because 'lol ur k/d is bad' and decides to flame me nonstop
>feed
>lose
>they're mad as fuck saying REPORT REPORT
>they can't even report me because new patch kicks everyone after the game

>>171177131
700 mb to fix a few minor bugs, wow.

>>171177185
You sure showed them, how to feed like a pro.

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bump in the night
>>171177185 was in a shit situation, but he sounds shitty as well

>>171179249
you too

>>171179306
it sucks when one is the butt of flaming, but its best to just ignore people like that

>>171177185
>because new patch kicks everyone after the game
what? why

So, can a Countess carry the team of feeders?
What do you think?

>>171179514
Nah I'd rather just give them the loss they deserve, it doesn't happen often enough for me to get a ban for it and I can make the elo back no problem.

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Alright what is the best way to build the mean-green metal fighting machine known as CRUNCH.

Auto-Attacks? Burst? Tank? Help me out here, I just wanna be a cute robot punching people.

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How to stop getting into teams of feeders?

>>171182732
stop being so bad you have to get placed with them lul

Bedtime bump. Something positive for you late night toxic fucks.

Made a new friend the day of the patch. He primarily plays support, but will fill any role. Comms are pleasant. 8-4 thus far in high gold.

>>171184168
American playerbase is less toxic and more teamplay oriented.

>adc rages at me for no reason, calls me every thing in the book
>we're only 10 min in
>go to other lanes to help other teammates instead
>never save his ass
Be careful with how you treat your supports, anon.

we still won

>>171185260
Did you last hit his creeps in revenge?

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>Lose a game because of a scrub Riktor
>play against him next game
>he is sev this time
>he's actually decent
>Kill him with Belica ult every time I can
>win
Fuck you Gustav

>>171186670
Can you whisper to an enemy in this game?
One thing I mastered is smack talking to console babbies who can't respond and just ping "Good Job" numerous times like broken robots.

>>171186876
Only can whisper to your friends I'm pretty sure. I play on PS4, but I have a keyboard plugged in for shit talk and general talk reasons

>>171187013
> Got himself a keyboard specifically for shit talk
Good boi.

>>171187126
Nah I just used the one from my PC. I don't play on PC cause mine is 6 years old.

About to start playing this after having played smite for about 300 hours because it's about to die. What would you want me to know if I was on your team?

>>171188070
Wards save lives

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Just had my first game with Gideon in ages. How is it even possible that some people suck with him? He's such an enjoyable easy mode.

>>171189203
He is shit late game cause your ass just gets focused when you drop your ult.

>>171182732
Don't play at night

>>171190275
Why?

>>171192383
Less players in general and more of them are shitters

>>171189203
>play lt belica
>knockup
>drop drone
>void bomb
>neural disruptor
Like that
Or
>play Howitzer
>ult gideon while he channels

characters talking when

New HUD when

Cards removed when?

>>171173625
Bruh, I've seen the general survive at 16 posters. 40 is pretty big for us

>>171189203
>be Sparrow
>96% crit, 470 damage per hit
>Gideon sees me closing in
>he ults
>I use Blink Charm to escape
>shoot his ass while he ults and he's dead in 2 seconds
lel

>>171184947

t. amerifat here

it's great. i'm white, he's black. i'm in minnesota, he's in texas.

>>171199075
> it's great. i'm white, he's black.
BLACKED

>>171173625
who would want to be part of a community with that fag posting on /v/?

>>171199698
We do not approve of this faggot
>>171197160
This, voice lines sound great. Also I want some music and more lore

>>171200280
I hope the don't just dump all the lore all together. Part of the fun is making theories and putting it together.

>>171201134
Agreed. They kind of do it, since they add more and more background info for every new hero. I guess they will add proper character bios soon and then perhaps reveal more lore through various events and videos.

Talking about lore, have any redditors or someone decyphered the alien alphabet found on maps? If not I might give it a try since it's probably a simple one English letter=one sign code

>>171201683
Jees, It's not Morrowind.

>>171169090
>silver not taking advice
know your place

>>171173625
considering /ksg/ has made it's #3282 thread with fewer numbers than us, I think we're fine

>>171201916
? Care to elaborate what do you mean by bringing Morrowind up?

>>171197160
Anything to make the game feel less dull and lifeless please

Oh shit, Grux's voice actor is Reinhardt

>>171202752
I mean this it's not the type of game where you can expect some deep good story, a well established world, original interesting characters, an artificial language.
It's a stupid moba-like hero shooter.

I'd like to see games in other genres starring the characters from Paragon. Sort of like HotS in reverse.

>>171204975
I'm a lore junkie man, straight from /tg/. Of course I'm not expecting high levels of world building, but I would like to see the story behind all of this, especially that I really dig Paragon's stylistics(or at least did back on Legacy)

As for the alphabet thing it's more a matter of "if it's there it has to be solved" kind of thing. I'm honestly surprised that no one tried to decypher this shit earlier, seeing that game has been playable for a year now, but I can't find any such attempts.

>>171203205
that man's throat must be in terrible pain

>>171205901
Alright then, just wait for the so called "movie" to come and see Muriel get spitroasted by Steel and Riktor

>>171202414
Not silver
I find the criticism on builds hilarious when I have not only a high kda winrate and am on my way to 1600 elo
Unlike league of legends you can't have something exponentially broken when your ability to aim is factored in.

somehow have fallen into a 5 stack after a winning streak with positive players.

will post results.

>>171209468
Are you the guy that posted that deck? If not, why are you responding like you're him?

>>171181650
ability -> attack -> repeat
its a toss up between power crunch or tanky crunch, both fulfill a specific niche.

Serath pros, what do you think about this build?
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/deckbuilder/en-US/decks/Prokul/31f89240-bf98-4ebc-9343-c84b4eb82dae

Oh theres a general now, cool

>tfw Monolith would have been perfect
>but they made it 1v2 meme lanes to copy dota when they're completely different games and paragon lacks over half the mechanics to make 1v2 lanes work

won't ever understand why they did this
even the gold buff is pointless

>>171216332
not really a pro bu i'd rather have a higher upgrade ward to keep around longer, and more damage is probably better on her than eldermage amulet because her lifesteal is intense.

>>171216332
>>171217248
oh also i like 100% crit meme serath, so idk if you want to try to fit in 12% more crit or whatever it is. don't think yours hit 100%. my bad if i'm mistaken.

>>171212165
I'm not him just the criticism that always goes out about decks when this doesnt function like a regular moba

>>171217248
I don't want to discard Assassin's Ward.
Final build is 2x12 Rifthunters, 9 Sword of the Altar, 11 Whirling Wand, 10 Curse of the Leech, 6 Assassin's Ward.
Eldermage Amulet is an alternative to Curse of the Leech. I don't know if life leech or health buffer is better in a team fight, I'm afraid that as a melee carry Serath will be focused first and will instantly die.

>>171217436
What to sacrifice, power or attack speed? Or lifesteal?
How much power do I need?
I have 96 power, 44 attack speed, 32 life steal. Crit is 84%

>>171218481
Yeah, Sage's Ward is dummy ward, Scout's Ward is in case something will go and I won't have CP for Assassin's ward. I should probably replace it with strike token, but I don't have one and don't have metal to craft one.

>>171216986
>take gold buff
>teamfight mid have to leave
>take gold buff
>lane is pushed
>take gold buff
>get ganked
Why the fuck does it exist

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/deckbuilder/en-US/decks/Synonynonym/393cec3e-596f-4a09-b380-96118ee7f82a

I'm trying to make a bulky Kwang deck, any Kwang mains want to help a guy out? I went 5-1 with this deck in my last game but I feel like I could've done more damage. I'm looking for a good balance of sustain, health, armor and damage.
I went ability pen because I heard it's pretty good on Kwang and I was doing around 550 damage on his ultimate and 350 on light of the heavens. at least these are the numbers the game told me, I didn't really get to see the numbers pop off on heroes because of the heat of the moment
Anyways, I start off w/ health pot/token start in Offlane (I have a key in the deck in case I'm forced to jungle) and the rest goes...
>early Eldermage Amulet
>early Whirling Wand
>get my Sorceror's Ward (I don't put any points into this until late game, I just need the active)
>early Tempered Plate
>discard early Whirling Wand for 9 pt Whirling Wand
>discard Eldermage Amulet for 9 pt Adamant Edge
>Shadow Scroll or Tuned Barrier, depending on my needs
>discard early Tempered Plate to build up to my 12 pt Tempered Plate whilst putting points into my ward in case I need damage.
That's my deck but it''s a rough draft and I'm looking to improve it, any tips?

I'm gonna pick Shinbi

>>171219131
It is only useful if you have voice comms and can ask your support or jungler to help you to get it earlier. If you can solo take it than it is usually way too late for lane farm.

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follow-up to >>171209764

of course it had to go this way. i was howitzer.

I liked it better when you picked your character before queueing

>>171222360
you liked two hour long waits and weird team composition?

>get a loot crate and key
>it's the amber colored Yin skin with the mask
>don't even play Yin

>>171223695
Go ahead and feed with style.

>>171222783
>>171222360
Hero - no, role - yes.
Like Dungeon Finder in WoW.

>>171222360
Retards

is this game fun

>>171228553
"No"
I say as I am booting it up to play it again

>>171228553

are MOBAs fun?

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>know the game well, do relatively well with squishy heroes who have no escape
>then applying those solid fundamentals to Greystone play

>more and more people building extremely high crit
>either that or it's one guy baiting everyone
Either way, I'm conflicted: more people doing it will make it easier to kill them, but it might also land me on the same team as them.

>>171223695
>buy crate and key last night
>purple default Twinblast variant
>get crate and key from chests today
>orange default Twinblast variant
I mean, I wanted one of the energised variants, but these are good, too.

>got twinblast skin from event
>would've took literally anything else because I fucking hate playing him
>will play any adc except him
fucking rng

>>171233448
are you that greystone who's always kiting my idiot team around the map?

someone explain dekker's butt to me please

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420 blaze it

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>>171236310

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>>171236306
Nah, pretty new to him.

Did discover a problem with playing Greystone, though: you can't carry with him if your team are bad/ the enemy team is good. Just went up against a team with exactly one good player (their Sparrow) that decimated my team. Since3 I was laning against them, they made me their bitch from minute one and I couldn't build power fast enough to make a difference. Seems to be my curse as Greystone: good KDA, awful win rate.
>enemy Greystone is always ALWAYS left to his own devices constantly pushing a lane until he reaches the inhibitors
>when I try it, the entire enemy team rotates on me in a second

>>171236157
Nice one.

how could anyone actually fucking go through 1v2 lanes and think "yeah this is fun, put it in"

Boy I love chasing around deckers and murdocks for 15 minutes unable to do shit while my jungler fucks off and their carry gets free farm

I mean fuck dude if I wanted to play dota I'd just play dota. At least there I can stun someone for 10 seconds while my supports tp in

>>171240385
offlane is my favorite role

>>171240385
No idea. As a carry its fun as a offlaner it's torture

>>171240385

I have fun in the offlane.
It's better if you have a character with a really good ultimate or a power spike at level 5 because you get there faster.

Heal token is a must though.

>>171242135
>>171243072
I don't doubt some people have fun, but is it really more fun universally than fighting 1v1 on even ground?
Sure it's more challenging if you consider standing back and dodging autos while waiting for level 5 so you can cheese a double kill if they're silver and don't understand they should play safe after you've been level 4 for a few times to be challenging. But eventually theres a point where all you're going to be doing is soaking xp and taking the jungle camp when you can because you have zero influence on the lane outside of your jungler or the enemy duo seriously fucking up.
Don't know if any of you watch the competitive games but thats exactly what happens. You really don't do shit in the offlane, you're just there as a nuisance while the carry gets free farm.

Wait just got here

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>>171240115
Master Greystone, just speaking from experience, it's harder for you to carry games but you're a pretty damn good asset in any team. Considering who your match-up is, Sparrow will always poke the crap out of you so you always want to keep your distance. I recommend putting health regen in your deck if you're being poked a lot. As far as being left to your own devices, you'll want an early ward so you can start being a nuisance for the enemy team.
If you want, I can post a deck I've been using since Monolith begun that is early sustain/damage with a ton of damage late game.

>>171240385
>>171245678
I agree with you, I've been playing offlane since Legacy and I found the one versus one match-ups to be more tactical and challenging while I found the "two versus one" thing to get really boring, it's always the same thing of being very passive in lane, trying to soak up as much exp until you're level 5, etc. etc.

Opinions on this build for sparrow?
Feel like I should have attack speed but to be honest, I havent found the need for it yet
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/deckbuilder/en-US/decks/SRG_Valo/ea2743e3-36a1-4c5d-a462-0783dc02c83d

>>171249902
I'd suggest replacing the Windcarvers with Whirling Wands, you're gonna be hitting too slow to make any actual effect as is with the build.

>>171249859
Sure, go for it. Always up for new deck ideas.

Don't duo queue, especially if you're not very good: it's skews the matchmaking terribly and is bad news for everyone on your team because they have two awful teammates and have to deal with a statistically better team. Same principle applies to premades of any size under five, actually.

>>171252719
>they have two awful teammates and have to deal with a statistically better
Salty af

>>171252303
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/deckbuilder/en-US/decks/Synonynonym/05f0096d-2468-4a84-b791-47baf8ec0d1f

Here ya go man, the build order should be something like this..
>typical health pot/token start
>Silverspear if you're being poked a lot, 6 pt Windcarver Blade if you're ahead
>pick up the Guardian's Ward without putting any points into it just yet
If you picked up Silverspear instead of Windcarver Blade in the beginning, pick it up now, otherwise, build to either the Whirling Wand or the Windcarver Blade, it doesn't matter which one you choose.
>Spear of the Rifthunter
Now you want to pick up Impact Hammer but do not finish it, instead, pick up the critical chance and then get rid of those early 6 pt cards to pick up your Hunger Maul and get your critical bonus online.
>Finish your Impact Hammer and then finish your Guardian's Ward.

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>keep getting put on teams with people with awful, abysmal KDA's who are somehow higher ELO
>consistently lose
How.
How are they winning their games when they're so shit, while I'm objectively better than them and I keep losing?
I followed up on a guy on my team on agora after playing with him a few times and figured that it must have been his friends that were carrying him (they won over 70% of their games together), but they were hovering around the same awful KDA and didn't have a KDA of more than 2 with any character.
I don't. Fucking. Get. It.

>>171253662
I may be salty af, but it doesn't make it any less true.
The matchmaking compensates for premades by putting higher ELO players on the enemy team, that is a fact. If the premade group on your team is bad, like I've been experiencing (a team of Italians today: surrendered at 20 minutes because they got our inhib; there were more examples today alone, but fuck it), then you've got bad teammates going up against what is a better team according to the internal Epic matchmaking.

>>171253816
Cheers, building now.

>>171219305
I'll do it tomorrow maybe, I don't know

How do I git gud with Lt Belica? Rather, what should I be doing with her? Mid lane?

>first pick, I lock in Sparrow
>second picks Yin
>third picks Serath
>fourth picks Murdock
>and an Aurora makes five
Thank God someone didn't load in. I hate this fucking game.

>>171256231
Mid or support, usually mid because that's also where other casters go. She's an anti caster and is not as good against any other kind.

With her, it's best to first understand the combat zone, when there is one and neither party is running away from one another, and set up her droid, then you have to earthshatter and bomb combo, that's your main source of damage, but as you can imagine, a single combo isn't gonna kill anyone, so she works best with another player.

Her ult is extremely deadly against any high mana characters like Countess, Dekker or Muriel and is quite useful against anyone with low mana, as a result of the droid most of the time.

In conclusion, she's a high skill character that needs someone else to do the heavy duty damage while she uses her CC and whatever damage she can deal to get shit done. And sometimes pop up behind a low mana Countess and oneshot the shadbase lookin' hoe

>>171256919
To be honest, that looks like a pretty decent team. You've got damage, you've got CC, what's the problem here?

>>171253980
KD doesn't matter.
One team wipe at end game and it's over.
I should know I've clutched games like that on stupid cocky team wipes from the enemy team and train ride a wave to mid

>>171257551
Not that person, but I always say at least one tank is needed on every team.

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Yin being bad is a meme.
Soon Epic are going to start releasing mages/ranged and they're all going to be shooting projectiles everywhere I cannot wait. Still practicing my backlash timing

>>171257551
Squishy squishy

>>171257551
>>171257994
>>171258958
Not him but I had a full ADC team Yin Murdock Serath Sparrow and Twinblast
Gold elo
Somehow we won

>first pick
>say I'm going to adc
>yin calls me rude
>everyone else starts spamming me
>tell me if we lose its my fault
>keep spamming my name
>shinbi mid
>I'm the only gold
>dodge asap

>>171258773
Build? It looks like the hype is starting to die down so I can finally play her some. Any tips?

>right lane khaimera
>twinblast AND Murdock
>already dodged
FUCK
now I'm stuck with this idiot team

>>171260871
Your ult stops(and rmb reflects): Sparrow ultand rmb, grim ult and knock away, rampage rock, dekker stun, Howitzer rocket, all ranged autos, Belica ult, Kallari dagger, Twinblast ult, and The Fey Q

Start with some attack speed early so you can make the most of the 6 second duration of long range. Stinger boost on her is pretty decent but since that's something I do as a niche, just use that extra card for power.

Recommend Hunger Maul for your crit bonus, it's good to have lifesteal but 0 good fury cards that give power lifesteal or ample attack speed and power. I mean you could always stack whirling wands or windcarvers.

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>Be Serath
>have to help ally Aurora offlane at 2 minutes in because he's a dumbass that didn't ward
>Allies dying in safelane like a pair of dumbasses
>Go to help midlane from being ganked and die in the process
>Overall a losing game
>Final stretch
>They took one inhib, but we're still fighting strong
>See that we're finally on the offensive
>Go get Orb Prime because that might be our chance
>Get it no hitch
>Allies are a bunch of dingdongs and get killed mid, die while taking left inhib in a last ditch effort
>Team is swiped
>We lose
I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR, BUT IN THE END, IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

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Let's see it /parag/

>>171230874
see >>171229978

>>171240385
literally play any other role then.
tho it is more fun when your jungler is actually involved.

>>171263037
No accounting for feeders and idiots, anon.
Seems to be the majority of teams, sorry to say.

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>>171264279
SURE

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>>171264279

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need to get on that +80 level

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>>171264279
I've been on a shit run, I'll bounce back soon.

>>171222360
It was shit unless you're a kid who just HAS to play a one specific character. Caused atrocious queuing times and made it basically impossible to make a balanced team
>>171224551
This however would have been nice. Epic scrapped the "standard" roles though, replacing them with tags thing.

>>171252719
Not from my experience. I usually duo queue with my room mate and we get easy matches with enemies on same or lower skill level as our team mates 75% of time.

>>171256231
She works well on all lanes except jungle, but mid is probably the best. It would be probably a good idea to pick your lanes based on counters: go where enemy team caster is since she's an antimage.

Your bombs have high damage and ridiculously short cooldown and also return your mana if used on a group of enemies. Throw up and bomb combo can deal serious damage to squishy heroes, but her autos are rather weak lategame. Deploy drone whenever you feel threatened, are fighting against casters or during a teamfight, try placing it kinda on the side on in the back, so it won't be destroyed so quickly. If your enemy has low mana, throw up, bomb and ult combo is almost a guaranteed kill and if he has no mana at all ult itself may suffice.

Bear in mind that she has no escapes other than throwing her enemies up or setting up drone to prevent them from using pursuit abilities, so blink might be useful.

i feel like ive gotten first pic like 5 times in a row now

sneeky speeky on year 2 heros later today

u herd it here first

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alloy tier 3 skin for Sparrow when?

>>171272864
no thanks

>>171272926
but shes cute

>>171273063
>90s hair
>looks like a teenage boy

pls no

>>171272864
I'd fuck her, she's not cute though, she's just pretty. Look at that man jaw.

>>171273317
you'd fuck anything though

>>171273675
how'd you know that

>>171274460
we've been watching you for a long time

bed time bump

ending the night at 1490, hoping to break 1500 for the first time tomorrow.

>>171272438
What did he mean by this?

Serath is OP as fuck now lads. I haven't beat one today.

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>>171264279

>>171283970
But did you won any games with her? Can she carry or just gank and win duels?