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HASAGI edition

News & Patch Notes: https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news

Hero Related Info:
Latest Hero - Yasuo:
https://youtu.be/DGMsUWVNgkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIX8Xgjst0A
Leaks -
https://soundcloud.com/mehteh-trollfacer/tracks
https://soundcloud.com/omedamusic
http://imgur.com/a/fdnFM
http://imgur.com/a/5t1Am

MMR Tracking (community) and Other Information:
https://agora.gg/
https://fury.gg/
https://paragon.gg/

More Hero Build Info:
https://paragondb.info/calc
http://paragon.wikia.com/wiki/Paragon_Wiki

User IDs: pastebin.com/tMqksTK4
Currently accepting.

Previous Thread: >>170224719
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>>170656842
>Death is like the wind, always by my side
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WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU LAST PICK KHAIMERA FOR JUNGLE WHEN THE OPPOSING TEAM HAS SO MUCH CC?
GREYMANE GOES FULL CRIT BUILD, TEAMMATES CAN'T FATHOM HOW TO FIGHT HIM

GUESS I'LL GET MY VICTORY CHEST IN A
COOP VS. AI GAME.

DONE WITH THIS SHIT, CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.
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>>170657428

SO ENRAGED I CALLED GREYSTONE GREYMANE. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>170657615
Calm down, Muradin
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>>170656842
This game is boring and it's putting me to sleep, and it's making me claustrophobic
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>>170659309
but nobody plays riktor
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>>170659309
Why claustrophobic?
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>>170659642
because all this game has are very narrow hallways, there's hardly any space to maneuver
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>>170659642
Monolith is claustrophobic in comparison with Legacy.
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>>170660380
>>170660049
Well it surely is more tight than Legacy, but not enough to call it claustrophobic I would say.
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>>170657176
> That is why my kda 4/16/8
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>>170660586
there's only forwards or backwards, nothing else
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>>170660739
Like in any other moba. And come on, there is some room for manouvers and side corridors.
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>3 losses in a row
Holy shit
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>>170659309
B-BUT THE CARD REWORKS WILL SAVE THE GAME
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more skins and emotes confirmed
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>Kallari draft dodges because someone picks Grim
>They're terrible
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>>170663192

Oh shit son
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>>170663192
I should fucking think so, too.

>>170663442
Honestly I've come to expect this and dodge any match with a Kallari on my team. He did you a favor.

Shit hero in the hands of 99% of players.

Side note:

>play dekker
>have awesome game where stuff's going great
>finish something like 2 - 3 - 20
>friend invitation after finishing
>+9 elo
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>4th loss
I'm done
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>4th win
Should I keep going?
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>2 wins and 2 losses
meh
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>>170665015
>>170663442
people that play offlane kallari are mentally disabled
>takes the squishiest character in the game in a 1v2 lane
>takes the character with no sustain in a lane against two ranged
>no farming potential
>if she hits R to kill someone else her turret goes
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>>170669446
You feeling it bruh?
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>went from high gold to silver in a week
I feel like I keeping rolling bad teammates, I don't know what the hell I'm doing wrong but I'm just gonna take a break for a day or two... Is this my punishment for forgetting to bump /parag/?

some of my stats are fucking stupid too
>4.14 KDA on Offlane Aurora but 18.2% win rate (2-9)
It's not like I chase kills; I push my lane, help in team fights, etc. etc.
but what's funny is whenever I use my ult as Aurora, my team never follows up
I don't really use Aurora but I know how to use her decently...
I don't want to blame my teammates for all my loses but fuuuuck me is it tough when one of your teammates is playing like damn retard
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>>170669853
>perfectly capable of landing a kill alone
>kallari ults in and takes it

i've also seen one try to get a killing blow, only to get stunlocked and ganked herself.
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>>170663192
AWESOMENESS OF THE MASTER SKIN

Do you feel the AWESOMENESS, fuccbois?
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>>170663192
>specialist skin
A 5 minute recolor, calling it now
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where are all the women of color besides yellow
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>>170672718
You got that jungle fever?
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>>170672718
Aura's color is blue.
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>>170672830
Gee, I meant Aurora's
Aura is black.
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>>170672682
well its supposed to be between challenger and master so obviously
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>>170672796
you know it
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>>170672682
the more stuff i can collect onto my account, the better
I like hoarding shit

>>170673861
nnnnghhh
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>>170671312
just take a break man
I just had a team that refused to group or kept overextending for no reason
"master" gideon but did nothing AT ALL

How I see it: When Greystones and Kwangs AREN'T on my team, I'm gonna lose
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>>170675030
We should duo queue sometime anon, I'm about to reach mastery with Greystone and when I finish, I'll probably be playing more Kwang.
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>>170675403
What's your username bruv, I wouldn't mind queing together sometime
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>>170676209
#21 on the pastebin, feel free to inv if you ever see me online
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>>170676572
I think we've queued together before and won like 2 or 3 in a row. So I'll look forward to it again.
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>>170676693
I'm really curious as to what's your username now; I've played a couple games with like 2 dudes from this thread and we lost them. Unless we met somewhere else or way back in the old /parag/ threads.
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>>170677407
Really? Then it might not have been me
I'm #12 on the pastebin
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>>170677664
You have me added but we haven't played together but I've seen post complimenting the good games they've had with you, and some of your screenshots. Nevertheless, looking forward to queuing with you.
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Tonight's the night motherfuckers I'm not letting any noob STOP ME
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>>170678887
After anon posted this, he lost a game and was never heard from again...
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>>170679115
enemy team has a Steel so far....I already got a 15min ban for dodging h-haha
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>>170671309
I should have stopped.
>reach new ELO high
>immediately begin to plunge because that's the exact moment that the matchmaking decides your fun is over
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PARAGOOOOOOOOOOOO-
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>>170680119
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>>170679115
you jinxed me bruh
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Damn, the difference between a good and a bad Khaimera is damn small. How easy is he actually to play as? I don't wanna be shitty enough to actually play him tho
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>>170682442
he's easy to use but he's a little ass. I don't see why anyone would pick him over countess.
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Broke my loss streak LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO
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>>170682442
>right click someone
>Hold left click
congrats you're playing khaimera
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>>170685758
congratulations young anon
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>enemy crunch gets taken down to 0 hp but doesn't die
>his model is still in game and he has full control of movement but can't attack or use ability and he can't respawn
>full ghost
>4v5

ez elo
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>draft
>get stomped
>surrender
>draft
>stomp
>enemy team surrenders
This matchmaking is...not very good.
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>>170687328
no it really isnt. people that play kallari offlane and riktor shouldnt be anywhere high plat games and yet theyre always there
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How do I add my Username to the pastebin in the OP? I've never done this before.
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im in a big slump what do i do
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>>170688830
climb out
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>>170686397
Just had the same thing happen to an enemy Aurora. Initially thought she was hacking when I saw her with no health but not taking damage.

>>170688830
git gud
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>1600 elo guy on my team
>he gets 7 elo
>i get 6
Come on now
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>>170689238
>>170689194
>git gud
fuk but how
i used to be getting okay, but now i just die a ton every match and cant hit anything anymore
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>>170689480
It's based on the decimal, I think: you were closer to a whole number than he was, so you got what you needed to round you off.
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>>170688830
i'm 3-10-3 rn with steel wtf
what happened to the days when i would be 3-0-10
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>>170663192
meanwhile I'm turning downright skeletal waiting for those card system changes
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>>170691249
perhaps you're playing better players now
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>>170692470
yeah that and seriously idk this past week i havent been able to land abilities or last hits for shit.
i've crawled my way up to 7-14-13 this game, but thats not very good either. we also have no inhibitors left.
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>>170692580
7-14-3* i mean, not 13
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>>170671312
>told myself I'll take a break from playing
>got that itch to play Paragon, oh boy
>log in, queue up, ready to go
>someone wants to go Kwang mid
>fortunately somebody dodges
I-I'll just play something else then...
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>waste 1 hour because Aurora miraculously won't group and keeps dying
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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bump in the night
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>>170696464
ahh that scared me
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they are making me play crunch jungle and I can barely kill one full camp without dying this is great much better than laning desu
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>>170697148
l2 circle strafe
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>dipshit locks in Howitzer
>waaah waah I don't wanna mid
>was already locked in as support forced to mid
>Howitzer can't even build right
>team sucks with no support
>somehow they don't want to surrender while Greystone starts fucking around
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>>170697148
Crunch has one of the fastest jungle clears imo and you aren't strafing if you're taking a ton of damage; it reduces the damage you take significantly.
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>>170697712
Every game.
Learn to evade, boy.
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>>170698727
Already dodged like 5 times today
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>tfw pulling an a nighter and then going to work
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>>170702064
Hopefully you didn't lose all night and it was worth it.
Good luck at your McDonald's cashier workplace!
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>>170702191
It's actually a local supermarket
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Why did I use the fucking 3 day boost?
Now I have to play this shitty game the whole time.
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>>170688053
Post it here and anon taking care of pastebin should add you
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>>170704358
pls no bully
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>finished my last game before work
>1 hour 15 minutes
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there should be more to do to influence lanes

like mini jungle bosses that once killed join the lane

the raptors and prime are boring as fuck
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>>170705729
There should be more stuff and mechanics in general. The problem is that EBIN was to lazy to balance every single one they added back on Legacy, so they decided to scrap them
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>>170705959
I used to like Epic Games because of UT, but now I feel like Paragon really gives them a bad name.
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>>170705729

>paragon should be more like HOTS

better to end it all now, friend
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How would you fix Iggy? What other characters could use some fixing?
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>>170711687
I playrd with a 1600 elo iggy and he destroyed the entire enemy team God knows how he even survived Kallari ults at 1 hit away
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>>170711687
Delete from game, along with Kallari
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>>170715471
Kinda shame really.
Iggy and Scorch is at least an interesting original hero(s), unlike some generic sexy female.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gELLHUK2WgY

Kallari in the other hand, yeah, delete that boring useless shit.
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I wish Iggy was a god again like on Legacy.
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lmao they're going to make you have to unlock heroes, even deader game
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>>170716040
A.I turrets are a bad mechanic and should be replaced entirely.
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>>170716752
Hey, if it will keep high skill heroes away from the hands of noobs I'm all right with that. As long as it's "unlock", not "buy"
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>>170716387
No ty
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We got a daily log-in bonus now! Check it out!

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/log-in-and-get-stuff
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>>170720604
They owe me mad shit then
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>>170720604
Am I getting it right that they replace ALL level up rewards with chests? Won't that make getting new cards like 10 times slower for the new players?
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>>170721410
I'm not quite sure, there were a couple things that weren't made clear in the article. They said you get hero unlocks through daily log-ins instead of leveling your account to 7... or something like that
I read something about our chests and shit giving out crates or something. I'm not too sure but I'll just wait until the next patch.
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>>170720604
horrible
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>>170725565
why
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>>170729194
Too much of a bother to login every day.
But I'm too greedy to ignore it.
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Why are these thread always so slow on weekends? Are paragon players really so normie?
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>>170733438
yes paragonians are all chads
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>>170735854
At fucking last
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>>170705729
play dota
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>>170736004
>dota

Only league and hots have jungles that do things other than give gold and exp.
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>>170736271

>stacking, pulling lane creeps into jungle

yeah okay kiddo. time to go back to Fisher Price: My First MOBA.
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been playing a lot of belica lately.

what's the deal with enemies hit with her Q flying up super high into the air?
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>>170739131
That's the stun animation
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>>170739131
That's the entire point of her Q. It basically works like a mini-stun
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>>170739348
>>170739360

Holy shit anon I know that. I'm saying they are going -extra- high in the air.
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>>170741154
You mean like, higher than they usually do, or just higher than you think they should because it looks kind of silly?
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>>170741154
did you want it to send them into the ground instead?
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>>170741154
Yeah, something broke. I think that's how Aurora got into orbit here >>170735854
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>>170734189
How I spend my day:
Played Paragon, evaded few drafts, won 3, lost 1.
Played Dirty Bomb ranked and normal, won 1 ranked, lost 2.
Basically I login into one game, play until lose or draft evade resulting in a ban, then switch to the other, play until lose, rinse and repeat

Such a fun weekend I have. I wish I had a gf to spend time with instead of playing stupid video games and raging at bad teammates. Or gf could at least cheer me up when I have a bad losing streak. ;_;
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>>170742032
You'll get there anon. I was like you once, then I got a gf and everything was great. Then I kept getting more demanding jobs, and then got married, and now have a kid on the way, and now Im at a point where I can only squeeze in one game a day due to work and household chores and life stuff.
I dream of the days where I could sink in 3 hours into a video game a day. But that happens maybe once a month for me now. However, you do learn to appreciate your free time a lot more.

/blogpost
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>>170743917
>having a kid

WEW
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>>170744948
>Not wanting to play vidya with your son or daughter and let him/her kick your ass.
>Not wanting a person you can always Duo lane with.
>Not to utter the word "you can play vidya when you finish your homework.

Step it up my man.
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>>170746127
>not beating junior to teach him that the world is rough, and if a man's gotta make it he's gotta be tough

4/10 dad would not be the son of
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>>170721316
They haven't even given anything special to players who paid for the alpha, no way they're giving retroactive bonuses just for playing the game.
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I'm not ready for Paragon today.
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Won a 4v5. Time to retire.
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>>170746127
>doesn't have time to play vidya at all
>will somehow have time to play with vidya after having a kid

WWEEWW
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why do i have to exit game if i unplug/plugin my headphones? i thought this was 2017...
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>>170754321
What are you on? I do that all the time
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>>170754576

WIN10. Paragon is the only game that has this issue.
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>>170755190
Kek, Win 7 and no problems with that.
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>>170743917
>then I got a gf and a kid and now I can't spend tons of time doing things I enjoy
Somebody didn't think this thru
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>>170755327
same
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>>170743917
My condolences.

I like my free time, money and personal space too much to get into a relationship, let alone spending 18+ years raising a kid.
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>It's a 0 - 5 - 0 steel episode

Did they nerfhammer too hard or am I just unlucky
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>>170760381
Why run steel when you can just run aurora
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>>170760381
He's still good
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>>170754321

Paragon won't let you switch audio outputs while the game is running. The devs know this.
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>>170755327
Windows 8. 1 me neither
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>>170760528
Because Aurora is going offlane?
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Slept for 9 hours after work and ready tp play Paragon
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>>170764070
Good.
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holy shit they need to speed up the time it takes to get Grux's ultimate off...
some people can just walk past my range because it takes what feels like a second to get it off only for a half second stun
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>>170764628
>first game of the day
>first pick is Grim adc
>third pick whines I NEED 2 GAMES FOR MASTER and locks in murdock
>fourth locks in sparrow
>have to dodge and can't take the chance of going into game like this
Nice
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>>170756668
>>170758537
Eh, you'll get there eventually my friends.

Anyway, can someone add my username to the pastebin? I'm sick of playing my games solo.

Mr.comix - PST Mon-Fri 5:30pm-9pm and Various times on Sat-Sun.
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Is it necessary to use voice comms to play with anons?
Can I just be decent and not feed and listen?
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>>170763665
but you already have an offlane

aurora is the best support
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>>170766551
I main Aurora and I always pick offlane first. I support only if there is someone who wants offlane badly.
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>>170765667
I won't get there because I don't want to be pregnant for 9 months and neglect my children for paragon.
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>>170767643
>I don't want to be pregnant for 9 months

wat
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>in queue
>first pick
>soft lock shinbi offlane cuz i love playing shinbi
>Be in high gold elo
>"please pick a different hero"
>"shinbi fucking sucks change character"
>reply with ":^)"
>lock her in.
>"report shinbi for throwing guys."
>"we lose"

>tfw dominate off lane and carry the match 12/2/13

>type in "Sh-shinbi Sucks"

fucking ass wipes just let me play the game.
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>have Kallari jg, aurora gideon murdock and Countess me
>every step of the way enemy team always grouping collapsing
>my team splits and dies
>3 of the enemy team mid and aurora won't even come and ult them
Why play offlane for fucks sake really?
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>instead of a ramged carry they pick serath
>nobody knows how to play against gadget
Hmm
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>>170775823
gadget is a fucking asshole of a whore though
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>>170776107
Still doesn't mean stand in her ult
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>our support goes rampage but can't protect our carry
>our carry goes 10 cp damage over two madstone gems then gets one crit stick for like 20% crit and then goes for a 12 cp hunger maul

What the fuck reee

you don't rush crit bonus u scrubs. You go full attack then attack speed then crit then crit bonus. It doesn't scale as well if you just go crit bonus with low crit and low attack speed. I better not catch you math failing scrubs in my games.
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>mfw I saw a crit build Belica
Back up the elo train I go
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>>170768013
? Why would I want to be pregnant
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>3 losses in a row because of trash junglers
>in the last game one got executed by a camp because he wasn't kiting the minions
That's enough Paragon for me today
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seriously what the hell, I've played three games and each game it crashed or froze.

Any solutions??
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>My team
Fucking kill me.
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>>170778931
you dont need to end game 2-3 ticks does half ur hp.
combo with a dekker ult and ur ded easy
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anyone up for a few games? I'm on ps4, level 20ish. kinda new to paragon. PSN younganimal85
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>>170656842
>tfw Epic has killed smurfs in just one update
BASED
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>enemy team Countess gets killed by Belica ult at 75% health
>rest of the game lives in constant fear of my droid
YES
FEAR THE DROID
RUN FROM THE DROID
THE DROID DESTROYS ALL
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The game I lost was so bad I don't even want to play anymore.
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>>170784676
Is Belica a hard counter to Countess?

Getting rid of that droid is pretty much impossible for her and landing Bel's stun when Countess teleports in is pretty easy.
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>Draft has 2 guys wanting to play carry
>Pick Aurora but see that we have no support so hover that
>"Someone should pick Aurora"
>Fuck it
>Pick Aurora
>Already accepted defeat
>We won
The other carry wanted Frosty mommy to babysit him on the offlane. Guess they were all new, considering one of them even said they didn't bring wards when I told them to take it because enemy Kallari
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>enemy Aurora glitches
>they can't attack or die
>team attacking her like retards
>explain to them that this is a glitch and the game is a 4v5 just group and we win easy
>30 minutes of realizing how bad my team actually was and they couldn't end without me constantly typing or saying follow me
>the enemy team actually made it to our inhibitors
>if Aurora didn't glitch it would have been a crushing defeat
What the fuck how bad can you possibly be in fucking gold.

>>170783172
They didn't have a dekker so there was no excuse
They had no CC actually and my team had a steel
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>>170784903
Pretty damn hard, though if she goes ham on you before you set up the droid, or you get too confident when your droid is on cooldown, accept your death for being a dumbass
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>>170785032
>purple Belica
Her default is better yuck
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>>170785153
It's a pretty old screenie, and I just got the challenger skin then, so I was trying it out a few matches. One of them had me bully a Countess really hard
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>>170785221
I love getting ulted by Countess and running as my drone shoots her and surviving at like 100 hp
Hilarious how desperate they are.
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>>170785323
In >>170784676
She went absolutely ham on me, before a quick ult decided her fate and I just pushed back the lane

Though in >>170785032
I just walked up behind her from the jungle and ulted. Didn't even need foreplay for that one
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>>170783172
>end game 2-3 ticks does half ur hp
Gadget's ult does seem a little ridiculous. Not really sure how you would go about fixing it.
>tfw tanking will never be viable again
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>go to edit pastebin
>accidentally dodge a game
>have to wait 20 minutes
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>>170785775
Is it just me, but the more I play Belica, the less I feat Khaimera? I mean in my early days, seeing a Khai meant accepting my death, now it's just a case of either earthshatter, or Cast Converter
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>searching for players
>not searching for retards
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>tfw play Legacy Murdock
100% crit buuld never gets old
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2 more days until I climb to Diamond with Yin
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I like the memes we have thus far
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Anyone making memes? Shit ones too?

Could anyone replace the girl's head with Belica and the guys with random guys on the roster?
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>When you're Countess mid and enemy team has Belica mid
YOU CAN'T HAVE A CHARACTER THAT HARD COUNTERS THAT FUCKING HARD.
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Yin is going to be 10 times more annoying than Aurora.
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>>170793329
Wow rude. Aurora is not annoying.
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>>170793329
You just have to be careful with Aurora and ward your asses so that she can't gank you.

Yin seems more troublesome since we're not even too sure how her reflect works. Because in the trailer, she deflected Rampage's boulder and it homed back to him. In most circumstances, Rampage actually has to aim it
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>>170785153
Objectively yes, but my inner Saints Row fan kicks in whenever I play her and I pick purple anyway
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>>170794546
Did you forget about her ultimate? Have fun missing every ability and your autos
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>>170795845
Doesn't it work only on actual solid projectiles?
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>>170793329
I feel like Yin is Seraph that was made right.
Seraph too have her gimmick abilities of immunity and ascend, but former requires a difficult timing and have a long cooldown, and latter used mostly for escape instead of chasing fleeing enemy. She have a useful slow and high damage ult though, and will probably do more raw damage than Yin but have weak defense tools and short range attack.
Yin have gimmick (?) anti projectile abilities and huge attack range and cleave. Her main damage source will be her auto attacks and reflects. Unlike Seraph, she can counter or at least drive away proper ranged adc with her ult. We don't know the cooldown on her reflect. What will she do if a fighter like Rampage or Greystone will just rush at her without throwing anything? Can she kite a melee with her attack range? I get that in a team fight she will throw ult to neutralize the hostile ranged adc and then attack, but what if the enemy is clever and will expect that? Make her use her ult, wait it out, then attack like normal. And her jump is much better than Seraph's ascent, you don't need to predict where the fleeing enemy is going, you just aim and click.
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Zzz work
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>>170801385
Why can't you play at work, anon? You do manual labor, are you a loser?
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>>170793329
Yin sounds like a hero with hard counters

>pick hero with no projectiles
>easy elo
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>>170804515
This, her other abilities are still pretty powerfull, but half of her kit is useless against heroes with no projectiles(or ones who simply don't intend to use them)
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>>170804515
Gonna farm her with Countess.
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Which hero have you played the least? Are there any you haven't even tried yet?
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>>170808314
I'm new and I play almost exclusively Aurora. Few games left until mastery rank 10.
Rate my edginess.
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>>170782181

oh lawdy is that some spotted cow?
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Draft evading and boosts wasting weekend, here we go again!
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>>170769863
it's not like they were wrong
congrats on having a good game with a bad hero though
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>>170801541
You wanna tell my Lieutenant why I'm playing Paragon instead of serving my country go ahead boss
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>>170813271
What country? I doubt you are at war.

> lost the war
> I have +200 elo for the last 25 games. I may lost the one war, but I won the other.
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>>170808314
Level 34 and I have no idea what Iggy or Crunch's abilities even are. Judging from playing against them, I'd say Iggy has one ability called Put Down Useless Turret and Crunch just has the ability to punch things for 10 damage per hit
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>>170808314
I haven't played anything that's not Belica, Serath, Sevarog, Aurora and Gideon. Played Gideon the least.

There are some I want to try like Riktor and Countess, but they seem kind of hard to get into, plus I don't have nearly enough shadow scrolls and 1 cost cards to make a decent Countess deck.
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When I pick a hero without mastery people tell bad things to me.
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>>170792736
This is Shindol right? What's the name of this doujin?

please do this one
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Which hero has the best ass?
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I feel like I'm still in a huge slump, been going like 1-5-4 every game, with different heroes, but I've been winning more often than not somehow and am climbing into gold soon. Less than one point away from gold right now. Wtf is going on. How do I stop sucking so hard. Am I just like the worst player in silver or whatever so I'm getting put into teams that will carry me?
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>>170821052
Countess
>>170821117
I wish I was you anon, I've dropped from high gold to silver from a big losing streak and while I maintain a high KDA, it's not enough for me to win games.
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>>170716387
I would be down if he could at least be an okay tank. Like a force of nature at pushing lanes that your team needs some coordination to stop.
I mean, once he gets going. Not off top.
Right now he just sucks so bad. Like sure every so often you see a good iggy who gets fed somehow, but that's a blue moon level occurance.
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Is this game actually fun or is it just GRAPHICS
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>>170821587
I wouldn't say it's really fun but it's fun enough that I still play it
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>>170819694
Emergence, but that's an edit to say nice things instead
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>>170821587
When you can watch the futile struggle of a solo Countess as Belica walks up behind her and activates her droid, you know you're having fun
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>>170822093
I felt like it was Emergence but I don't remember the desk saying nice things about her

someone should edit the original one to Belica and this one to Aurora
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>>170822324
STOP BEING SUCH A MEANIE TO AURORA
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>>170821052
Dickher
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>>170822324
Jesus anon, you really don't like Aurora
Got a story to share?
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>>170822838
She's crazy op and I hateher, I have decks built just for when the enemy team picks her but that's not enough...
Avoid her hoarfrost? You have to stay inside her circle for an eternity, which can be much more deadly than being caught by the hoarfrost
Hunter's Guile'd/Purity Censer'd her ult? Too bad, you will still take the freeze if you didn't time it at the exact moment and if you did, you'll still take the damage.
Caught her overextending? She's low health and about to die? Too bad, she has a guaranteed escape plus a back-up escape. The only way to guarantee a kill is by crowd controlling her to death or using a long-ranged attack when she's low
the funny thing is, is that I enjoy playing her too
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>>170823578
Aurora works best against noobs when she q-es from unwarded jungle and takes enemies by surprise. Skillful players always expect her ult.
Q>R>E
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>>170823578
She isn't crazy OP, she's good, but not OP.
She's probably more dangerous than Khai in terms of ganking lanes due to her ult, but unless you're a noob, you'd ward your jungle and see it coming.
To avoid her hoarfrost, just don't get too close, and if you do, stand still for a while, shit takes 3 seconds to go away and it's better than losing your shit and getting caught in it.
Sure her escapes are good, but escapes don't win games. She can avoid a fight, but that just means you can take the objective.
Her chasing capabilities are good, but not so good that there aren't ways to avoid it, such as pulling a 180 when she frozones to you.

Aurora is only aggravating to noobs. Most people fear Countess, Kwang and Howie when they reach a certain skill level. So in the end, you just gotta git gud
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>>170824319
That's not my issue though, I take advantage of that when I play Aurora but when I'm playing against an Aurora, I'm looking at the map constantly. The issue is when it's a 1 v 1 situation and she's losing, she can easily escape and if it's a 2 v 2 situation, she can zone you out and depending on the enemy hero she's with, cause some major damage to you or your teammate. In a full team fight scenario? You always have to mindful of where she's positioned herself and even then, some teammates aren't aware of her presence leading them to get killed and giving them the advantage in a team fight. Forget initiating with an Aurora the team too because if you don't cc her to oblivion, she'll ult your team on her dying breath and give the enemy team the chance to counter/pull back.
This is my fault but this shows how dangerous not being caught out by Aurora's hoarfrost can be..
>jungle
>Aurora and Belica low, they just killed my Aurora who was walking to the tier 1 tower in safe lane
>full health me
>surprise Belica when she passes the jungle fog and she manages to escape with a sliver of health
>Aurora hoarfrost, I'm caught in the middle giving the chance for Belica to easily grenade, stun me combo
>die
It was my fault but the amount of time that thing is up is just as deadly as being caught in it.
It's not about skill level either, I'm in plat and I hate dealing with Aurora's shenanigans. They need to nerf her as most of her abilities are too impactful for her not too be picked in a team.
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>>170825409
Well, I've lost with Auroras on our team and won with Aurora on their team. Yes, you have to be aware of the character with high CC, be it Dekker or Aurora
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>>170825409
I think if they just nerf her ultimate a bit and increase her mana costs she'll be okay. As is it feels like her ult just does too much and she can just spam her abilities nonstop.
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>>170824960
>Aurora isn't OP
She had the third highest ban rate in the last PCL despite being relatively new and not being a tank. She's OP as hell man
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>>170831302
>3rd highest
What were the top 2 then? Dekker and?
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>>170831302
Not OP, just forces extreme counter measures for teamfights
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>>170831517
Steel had the highest ban rate while Rampage had the second. Keep in mind this was before Steel's ult got nerfed. Dekker had the 4th highest ban rate.
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>>170825409
The only thing that needs a nerf is the Hoarfrost duration. I rarely stand in her ring and I get matched with plat players. I usually get close to her and circle around while autoing. If you are not in the center of her attack it becomes cleave damage. When I play Belica I do that and escape. When I play Countess Aurora dies. Her power ratios are piss poor but NOBODY should be forced to duel for 5 to 6 seconds because of that fucking ring duration. It's completely unfair. At that point skill goes out the window if you aren't melee
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>>170831596
>Not OP, just forces extreme counter measures for teamfights
I remember people using the exact same excuse for the original Rampage kit, which was also OP as hell.
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It's almost like Aurora's whorefrost is a mini Dekker ult, with the ability to keep one or two players confined whether you're caught in the middle of it or rooted (and you're able to escape from it if you have a blink/jump ability)
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any tips for catching people with Riktors whip thing?
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>>170833026
have good aim
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>>170832725
I honestly never want to trap myself in with a Kwang or Feng Mao literally prison death sentence
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Tips for someone just starting today?
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>>170833338
Have your name added to the pastebin
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Um
I just won a game but got no rewards and on Agora it says that the match is still live.
Sad. I had 7/1/7 with Aurora.
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>>170833623
But I don't like being added to pastebins until I'm at least somewhat competent at a game.
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>>170833683
? Agora takes a while to update after the match. Refresh after a few minutes.

>>170833779
Half the people here play for fun,
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>>170833683
>I just won a game but got no rewards
>I had 7/1/7 with Aurora
You got what you deserved anon
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Just had two games in a row that were so abysmal that I had to quit for fear that I would choke on my own bile.
>Twin and his Narbash are feeding like crazy while I'm carrying with 11 kills 20 minutes in
>defending our inhibitors, I might add
>Gideon leaves
>I put in no less than three surrender votes that Twinblast and Narbash immediately vote down, then:
>"PLAY"
>"NOOB"
As I just let them take our core.
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>>170833964
Yeah, but more importantly I want rewards.
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>>170834029
If you dced or were afk at any point in match = no rewards
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>>170813085
no i have a good game withher every game m8 every game i lost was cuz my team goin 0/7
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>>170813085
also im rank 9 with the bitch i know what im doing.
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>>170833338
Are you familiar with MOBA basics?
Here is a list of heroes with their common roles. Some can do different things but this are the most common ones.
http://paragon.wikia.com/wiki/Heroes

Here is a tier list, casual for low elo solo queue
http://paragontierlist.com/casual

Look for guides at Agora.gg or ask here.
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>>170814457
Do you actually think crunch does no damage? Crunch... Crunch Crunch?
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>>170834613
I've played Dota 2 and LoL in the past for copious amounts of times, but grew bored and disillusioned with them.

Thanks for the help, I'll check it out.
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>>170814457
I just saw this post, boy, Crunch is the best 1 v 1 hero besides Greystone, his damage can get pretty fucking crazy too
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>>170833338
Don't let enemy split to your base
Team work wins games
Don't split all the way to enemy base, keep your minion wave alive and they push on their own

If your team is bad flame them and let them know they're bad
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>>170834116
I didn't I swear.
Btw now the game disappeared from Agora completely, it is not in history and not live.
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>>170835229
you sure you weren't just dreaming anon?
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Is shinbi a good or bad character. Some pro streamers say she good and don't need buffs (mostly the ones the play her regularly like becertifed
and some say she bad cuz no cc at all.
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>>170835696
Shits out damage but nobody can play her right
She's the more difficult Countess
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>>170835678
ehh might as well just throw shinbi in b tier as well.
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>>170835696
iv seen some shinbis fuck shit up in higher elo.. From what iv seen you can't miss ur shit and use ur whole kit to delete. get circle rythem goin while hitting along with line tempo and ur dashes. you can delete tanks faster than any other character. Just build more hp and pen cus she does not need damage as much since her scaling is crap.
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>>170835678
is Aurora really still considered SS?
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>>170837328
yes, I don't think she's had any changes since she's been released
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>>170837328
>Two hard Crowd Control methods
>Two escapes
>Good waveclear
>Good damage
You tell me.
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>>170837328
Scroll up a bit and you'll see my earlier posts about Aurora. She's absolutely top tier and needs a nerf
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ded weekend
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>>170833779
Then learn with us. Add me bruh. Epic ID is on line 14 of pastebin. If you need Belica tips, I'm here to help
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>>170835678
I think greystone, Murdock, and kallari should be moved down one each, riktor and serath should be moved up. Then that's about it, and obviously a good C is better than a bad A.
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>>170837660
Also not super squishy.
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>>170835678
>aurora SS tier only because she is best support in game but other wise is shit tier
>dekker rampage going to drop hard as fug because yin destroys cc meta
>murdock higher than grim because people don't know how to use grim but clearly every single ability is beyond superior to murdock in every way but requires actual skill and mana management to use

wew
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>>170841939
Still so salty towards Aurora waifu. Wow. Take a break and return with Censer.
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>>170842517
I always have censer you scrub thats why aurora is so shit
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>>170841939
>aurora SS tier only because she is best support in game but other wise is shit tier
Delusional. She's SS tier in any role, her kit is powerful.
>dekker rampage going to drop hard as fug because yin destroys cc meta
Yin isn't even out yet, one hero with a cc blocking ability isn't going to destory the cc meta... Dekker is still going to be a top pick, as well as Rampage.
>murdock higher than grim because people don't know how to use grim but clearly every single ability is beyond superior to murdock in every way but requires actual skill and mana management to use
I was debating to put Grim higher and he probably deserves it but he deserves nothing more than A tier, he's just as good as Murdock.
>clearly every single ability is beyond superior to murdock in every way
Debatable, Murdock's kit is great but you're fucking deluded if you think Grim's kit is beyond superior; it's just better in the right hands.
Grim's ult is a waste though, Murdock's is clearly superior.
>able to body block his ultimate
>it's a projectile
>it's range is limited
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>>170843268
nope :)
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Ready to play Paragon
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>>170843268
>Yin isn't going to destroy the projectile meta
I love how nobody here knows about the Yasuo
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>>170844903
yes :^)
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>>170849291
>yasuo is melee
>melee crit in mid lane pffft that'll never work
>arrogant mid laners wordwide
>FACE THE WIND
>w-why didn't my ult hit him
>h-he survived my ignite with a shield wtf
>HASAGI
>where team?????
>Y-Y-Yasuo is sh-shit guys haha let the enemy pick him
>DEFEAT
>why did they make this champion
And let's not forget about Genji
>RYUJINNOKENWOKURAE
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>>170843268
>Yin isn't even out yet, one hero with a cc blocking ability isn't going to destory the cc meta... Dekker is still going to be a top pick, as well as Rampage
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Did anyone else play vainglory before they played paragon?
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>>170841416
Alright, here's my take on it

SS
Countess, Aurora, Dekker, Sparrow, Kallari

All these guys are the best at what they do. Countess and Kallari are the best assassins and have the enemy team look out for them always, Aurora and Dekker are the CC queens and the team with a good Aurora or Dekker on it definitely has an advantage in a team fight. Sparrow is the best adc with her ult letting her attack multiple targets at once and is very devastating given Dekker's or Aurora's ult.

S
Howitzer, Rampage, Grux, Gadget

These guys are good, but not the best of their areas. Howitzer and Gadget are great midlaners and their skills allow midlane domination to a high degree, yet neither are real threats given their skillsets aren't the scariest thing to come across. Grux and Rampage are also great, Grux with the added malleability of being able to be built up in any way and still be very viable given his very even stats and his skills which can be used in any way the player pleases. Rampage is also great, and also the best tank in the game given his ult, his rock throw is also dangerous and is notorious for it, though singularly, the thing is not a threat.

A
Belica, Kwang, Murdock, Twinblast, Gideon

Very good at what they do, but are often overshadowed by others. Belica, even though the cutest, has a pretty decent moveset, but her basic damage is too low to be considered a real threat, but she also has access to a pretty decent CC as well as a unique CC, so her skillset is very much dependent on her skills and if the enemy lives after she's exhausted them to cooldown, she's ded. Kwang is like Aurora, but not as good at the same job since he's much more damage dependant and although good at ganks, not as good at much else, being overshadowed in the offlane by Aurora and the jungle by Rampage and Grux, with his CC just being a not as good version of Sevarog's.

[cont...]
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>>170852435
>Kallari
>SS
Get out of Silver
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>>170852918
Silver Kallari mains are the most toxic players of this game.
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>>170852435
>Belica
>basic damage too low
No shit dumbass it's the same as every other burst mage
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>>170853191
>its the same

she has the lowest scaling in the game and lower than all casters. She is literally in her own lague at .2 scaling. Even supports have .3
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>>170853338
This is so sexist.
She is a soldier like Murdock, but do very little damage because she is a girl. Literally hits like a girl.
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>>170853338
>even supports have .3
Yeah jackass supports can't kill anyone late game if you failed to understand what their abilities do.
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>3 min queue time
I'm not even high elo stop
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>>170854307
What is your elo?
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>>170854421
1381
>tell kallari to pick something different
>guy below him steals kallari
>kallari picks iggy
>i dont have a deck fyi
>dodge
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>>170852435

Twinblast has great damage but optimally can only focus at one enemy at a time, with an ult that is nigh useless if you don't get every shot in, so being not as good as Sparrow. Gideon is great at dealing damage, but is overshadowed by Howie and can be knocked out of his ult, or even killed during it's duration.

B
Steel, Riktor, Grim, Sevarog, Muriel, Feng Mao, Greystone, Muriel

Decent, and still viable for high skill plays, but are edged out by superior options. That is especially true for Feng Mao and Greystone being overshadowed by Kwang being able to dish out the same damage with better CC. Sevarog is too weak earlygame and it just takes one surprise earlygame Khai or Kwnag to get killed and get farmed ez, even though lategame his potential for greatness increases exponentially with his higher health and damage counters, as well as minion clearing and low cooldown for ult. His CC also has great range is is one of the best for ganks and chases. Muriel's granting of temp shields is something of note, but she has no real crowd control, outside her ult and isn't even capable of much lategame, even for reversing pushed lanes. Steel and Riktor both have good and unique crowd controls and can keep an enemy on their toes when they see one, but are still overshadowed in those departments. Grim can dish out damage, but the rate of damage is overshadowed by every other adc, add in the fact that he has next to no real escapes nor crowd control, with a very limited mana pool that requires constant supervision and he's not really able to do much.

C
Khaimera, Iggy and Scorch, Crunch, Fey, Serath

These guys have no real place in a match where people know what they're doing. Their skillsets allow for very limited approaches to the game and generally can be countered as long as the team wards, quite reliably due to how monotone their play potential is.

[cont...]
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>>170854856
And finally

D
Narbash

Literally has no real merit in a match, does too low damage to be a threat, CCs are just worse versions of other's CCs and healing special has no real effect either. Literally no reason to take him

As for Shinbi, I'd put her in A rank, without any good crowd control she's very much dependant on others for that when fighting and although has one of the best escapes/chases, is overshadowed by assassins that can inflict slow or the like.

>>170852918
>he didn't get melted by Kallari in 2 seconds
I still have nightmares anon. I warded my asshole really hard, but the knife throw does not let me get away from the horror that was that Kallari
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>>170850913
>mobile moba thrash
no
>>
>finally enter game
>support is named slut juice
>feng main is named idiot feng and says he loves my nuts
>Countess says she played with me

Pls god
>>
Um hello?
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>>170859885
hi
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>>170859885
don't FUCKING speak to me
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>>170859885
Is it me you're looking for?
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>2 people want to jg
>somehow 1400s getting beat by 1200s
Hmmm
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It's only 11.
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few more hours till we are outta weekend dedness
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>>170866671
It's monday tomorrow and people gotta work. Guess most paragon players are actually functioning members of society
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>>170716040
>interesting
>original
hahah we made batrider a midget who rides on an goblin thing.

WHOA ORIGINAL
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>>170716040
what? gremlins and monsters are are original characters now?
fuck off and just say you want a stupid monster you furry.
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>get fey on my team
>auto lose
Why do th3y do this
>>
I really wish there was another type of ward or wards were not unique actives.
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>>170874214
>play support
>only one with wards
>entire enemy team has them
>team gets mad that nobody on our team is warding because my team can't be bothered
I'd fucking run just Censer, Honor and Wards on Dekker if I could.
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>lose another game because aurora won't recall
I hate splitters
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>yesterday
>look at my clock, 1:40 AM
>oh cool, lemme just finish this level and I'll play a match and go to bed
>half an hour later
>3:10 AM
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>try Hydroverser on Belica
>she does 800 damage per bomb
HOLY SHIT
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>another loss
>>
This game was fun while it lasted
>>
I like this game until I lose and then it's a fucking piece of shit. What's this phenomenon called?
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>>170868081
Definitely more original and interesting than another human m8
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>>170880549
>human

wew
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>>170879979
moba
and the worst part about it is despite the results you will be back to playing same time next day.
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>>170880549
>human
so you are one of those fags huh?
if they arent quadrupeds multi armed freaks of nature you fail to see whats quirks a character have.
Im sorry you are the cancer that plagues all mobas
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>me (Howitzer) and steel have our ults up
>team won't group
>enemy groups on us and we die
Is coordination really suxh a bizarre concept?
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>jungling as sevarog
>its another "offlaner takes both camps everytwime they spawn and then loses turret" episode
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>>170881879
>jungle doesn't gank offlane and if I try to get in lane I will get bullied out of it and possibly killed so we will lose tower anyway so I need to get some exp somehow
>maybe if jungle has less camps to farm he will realize he needs to come offlane
>doesn't come offlane

every time
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>>170882000
the faster i get stacks the faster i carry
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>>170881879
>
thats kinda what the off laner does. thats good sign of a good off laner. it allows him to keep ahead when the safe laners are freezing lane.
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>>170882790
the only camp the offlaner should be taking is the one directly next to his turret, as a sevarog main losing those early stacks hurts a lot more than youd think
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>late night matchmaking
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>>170882858
steal enemy camps
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>>170882858
not him but i don't like sev players because of this.
the off laner needs a rotate o his lane around the 5-6 min mark because the 6 min mark is usually when the first tier tower is about to go down from agro safe laners. sev players are are to busy playing there stupid minigame that they can never gank by that time mark.
so yeah i will take those fucking camps if it means i can get a rotate faster.
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>>170882997
how did the howie do better than the other players?
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slump 1-5-1 anon here, i'm a few wins into gold now somehow and i played countess for the first time in a while and got 5-3-5, first positive KDA in the last 9 matches.
countess is pretty rad but my deck is crazy wtf was i smoking when i made this.
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>>170883618
knocking retards into turrets
>>170883541
i do what i have to do to win, i'll take my minigame rewards over your turret any day
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>play Howitzer
>my team runs out of my ult
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>>170883697
why is /vg/ so full of countess and belicafags?
t. sad shinbifag cuz she get no love here.
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>>170883779
idk im not rly a countess fag just when i started playing paragon i got that gold skin in a chest so i started playing her coz i didnt know who else to play.
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>>170883779
Currently waiting for this game to disband
Someone on my team picked shinbi jg
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>>170883728
by giving the enemy adc turret cxp? real winning strat there bud.
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>>170883852
works wonders for me. adcs cant do diddly shit to sevarog
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>>170883830
fuck man im sorry as a near master shinbi player i can say she fucking sucks in jung so bad. i thinks shes best off lane to be honest.
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>tfw Voidsteel dagger gideon
Makes me laugh always

>>170883929
Yeah I know I tried it
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why does no one in solo queue ever set or freeze lanes
and if i ever start setting one someone will come out of nowhere and clear everything for me
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>>170883917
i agree
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>>170884042
>no lifesteal
uhhhhh?
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>tfw no matter how hard i try and how well i do i can't carry myself outta gold elo cuz i can't carry my team with my waifu
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>>170884406
SHINBI IS SHIT STOP PLAYING HER
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>>170884406
forgot pic
>>170884042
It would not be a meme build if it did
never lost a match with that build i just take no damage at all.
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>>170884447
but shes not shit and i can't wait till she gets buffed and you faggots make me even more powerful cuz you can't use her well.
also tele blink on her is max fun
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>>170884551
tell me how you do it? i never seen a shinbi do as well as ur scores ever.
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>>170835678
sooo... riktor is shit?
Should one keep playing him knowing that it's a gimped hero and might eventually get buffed?
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>>170885358
he recently got buffed, so idk if you want to hold your breath
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>>170884551
Shinbi deck pls
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>winning game
>all of a sudden sparrow and serath just DIE
>lose
>-9 elo
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>we have Orb Prime
>one enemy is dead
>nobody groups
Lmao
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>>170890895
>four enemies are dead
>entire team goes for the one lane that still has a tier 1 turret instead of the other two open inhibitors or prime
>lose less than 10 minutes later
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>another Fey picker
>forced to dodge

>>170891194
It's like playing with brick walls
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>>170891370
>team picks iggy grim and riktor
>they all have matching names
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>20 minute wait to not get retards
I hate moba communities sometimes
>>
Do you usually get the first kill of the game?

>Playing Riktor.
>Going offlane.
>Fighting minions.
>Back off.
>[Insert Any Character Here]
>Get on my friendly tower.
>Whiplash them onto the tower.

First Blood all the time man.
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>>170892123
>play support
>walk through the right side of mid and when minions meet walk from the side of enemy turret and hit midlaner with support cc
>ez first blood
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>play for 12 hours straight
>still lose more than I win
Must be the time of day
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>>170894823
Learn to evade draft ffs.
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>>170894929
>Evading drafts

reported your ip to epic
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>>170895398
I'm pretty sure they already know me as a recurring felon.
Draft evading bans are reset in 6 hours.
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>new deckslot drop
>try out the fey

I can't imagine playing him without tele blink, crono tonic, and natures muse. I had none of those so I went with the intelligence team shield, converter, and bubble for maximum actives. Was really meme like to build those actives and go full armor so my regen and double shields kept me alive for tens of seconds when getting 3v1'd because I have no escapes.

still won with kellari on my team

meme dream team
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>>170880725
>>170880842
No, I'm just saying that SOME diversity in cast is welcome. And even if I&S aren't exactly the most original thing ever, they're still one of the more original designs we got
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>>170896064
>wanting original designs
wew
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>>170896042
>him
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>>170896064
They will make hero's that fit into there lore. Remember they had 39 characters planned from the get go. Until then fan complaints really won't change what hero's we get sinse they are literally following a script.
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>>170896336
not to mention 2 of the planets are humanoid

people who complain about humanoid heros need to get there head out of their ass.
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>>170896336
I know, it's not like I'm sending them complaint messages, I'm just personally a bit dissatisfied myself with the characters we were recently getting, but it's their game after all. And that wasn't even the main point of my previous post, I was just saying that it's kind of dumb calling Iggy generic if you compare him to the rest of the cast, that's all.
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>>170841939
>Aurora mains are still this delusional
>>
>56% win rate
>get put on a team of people with 44-48% win rate
>enemy team is a well-oiled machine that has total control of the river buffs and our jungle
>lose, of course
How is that fair?
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>>170899242
I cri everyteam.
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>Just had a basically won game
>Most of their team feed or simply suck
>We gain a big advantage early on
>Game gets stale because teammates don't push properly
>They catch up
>Still manage to win a teamfight and destroy 2 inhibs
>We sure we've won
>We go to finish their core
>Lol nope
>Khaimera rushes forward and dies
>We lost a teamfight and got whole teamwipe
>They destroy our inhib and core and win

Fuuuuuuuuuck, how could we fuck this up so much? Just look at their Grim!
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>>170902281
People can't focus and forget that it's not about getting the epic kills browse. That mentality loses so many games: Paragon needs a real tutorial that stresses the importance of objectives.
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>>170902281
> Khaimera rushes forward and dies
Did he ping like madman while dead and called everyone noobs in the end?
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>>170903072
good shit go౦ԁ sHit thats some goodshit rightthere rightthere if i do ƽaү so my self i say so thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷM HO0OଠOOOOOOଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ Good shit
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>>170903508
Wut's on Twitch, a new chink bitch?
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>>170903384
Nah, he was quite ok, just fucked up in the end really. Although acting like a typical Khaimera would probably make this loss much funnier
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No one watching?
Twitch / playparagon
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>>170905056
I have lots of better things to do than watch other people play games anon. Actually playing them myself just to name one of them.
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>>170905267
It's a dev stream about Yin.
But you right, I might play the game instead. Unless I have a bad for evading a draft, kek.
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Anyone read the patch notes yet?
Aurora's whorefrost nerf is perfect.
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>>170905752
>Aurora and Rampage got nerfed
>Serath, Iggy and Grim got buffed
>All active cards got buffed
Holy shit i'm in love with this patch
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>>170905752
I just finished reading it. A lot of this makes me really happy. There's some things that I feel still need done, but maybe the card rework will will fix those better than buffs/nerfs.
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>>170905752
Nooo RIP Aurora waifu.
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>>170905752
>Ash of the Witch buff might be an indirect Greystone buff
perfect
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I want Serath to be good, I got the golden skin for her from a loot crate and I never play her.
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>>170882000
If you see a jungle Sev, know that offlane will be alone for at least the first 8 minutes, until he gets Subjugate, then he's gonna go in to help out and scare them away with his spooky visage.

Though if he doesn't come to help even after that, know that your jungler is a piece of shit. Even mid needs jungle help when the enemy jungler is pushing with midlaner
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>>170881203
>All lanes pushed in
>inhibs will be lost in 30 seconds if not pushed back
>Some asshole says to [Group up]
Look, I get your intentions, but if we grouped up without pushing the lanes first, we'd lose, so first help out, then we can group up
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Finally a good update, can't wait to try Serath after it. I don't really like the fact that they changed some cards to universal and that characters will now have to be unlocked(and unlocked by visiting the game daily, not by leveling up, what fucking sense does this have?), but other than that it's pretty great. Iggy could still use a stronger buff though.
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>>170906949
Greystone?
They just turned shinbi into a fucking monster
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>>170908759
oh shit, can't wait to her play her too
what other hero can spam abilities like crazy?
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>>170908907
Crunch is going to be a fucking beast, he's cool-downs are crazy short
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>>170909521
>Hero based on combos
>Now his combos can additionally increase his base attacks damage
Oh shit negro
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>>170908759
>they gave shinbi cc
Now you guys will see true cancer.
>>
Damn conversation on this patch died quick.
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>>170912593
It's not out yet.
This>>170908759>>170909657 might be a new meta.
Sad that I don't have that card.
>>
REMINDER TO CRAFT THE REWORKED CARDS BEFORE THEY CHANGE TO UNIVERSAL AFFINITY
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>>170894929
I had been evading drafts.
Even solid team comps blew donkey dick
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>>170913154
Why?
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>>170913807
Steel is one of the harder materials to come by
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Holy fuck this patch is ridiculous.
>buffing Kallari Khaimera Iggy Riktor Serath Shinbi
>buffing tHese autistic players ever
>GIVING GADGETS ULT A SLOW
>TWINBLAST
STOP
STOP IT RIGHT NOW
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>>170912873
how big of a difference does one second of slow make?
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>>170914676
You do know shinbi has a 2 second cool down on her q right? That's not including her hitting you with her e and rmb all the mean while. Not to mention her ult got a serious damage buff.
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>>170914660
>autistic
Going to be pretty difficult for you to prove that the se are autistic whre others arent at all.
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>>170914676
Have you played against a good shinbi? Cuz trust me they are about to become the best assassin in game if they get free slow on her already crazy ability spam.
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>>170914660
You scared of the new meta sparrowfag?
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>Shinbi with Ash of the Witch
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>>170914660
Kallari ult has Khaimera syndrome. Better make sure she at least gets the kill.

Khaimera just got some health regen, he'll still murder you alone. Git frends.

Iggy is hot garbage.

Riktor got a QoL adjustment more than anything.

Serath needed to be more impactful.

Shinbi's ult tickled. This Ash of the Witch thing sounds awful though.

Gadget's ult gets a small slow because it barely dealt damage before.

Twinblast's Q tickled.
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>>170914676
>how much of a difference does 1 second make in a moba
?
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>>170916606
Shinbis ult did lot o damage before. Idiot just never knew how to build stacks. Base 100 per wolf now makes her ult stronger than countesses at five stacks with some power built.
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> reporting two horrible feeders as mismatched after the game
> check agora report, well no shit, they are minimum 100 elo lower than everyone else
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>>170917746
And one of them has 10 games played total.
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>>170656842
Is this game any different from Smite gameplay?
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>another loss
>xd 8 more games for MASTER
How do you be vad at Severog for fucks sake
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>>170913154
I'm noob and don't much cards to dismantle and craft.
I've made myself one Ash of the Witch as it looks like it be the hot shit.
Should I make Divine Shield? I have a few order cards I can dismantle.
Idk it's kinda high cost and I don't really play tanks.
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>>170919713
As far as combat, many things are similar. There's an actual y axis, which makes abilities a bit more difficult to aim and allows for more interesting environmental stuff. You'll recognize many abilities as parallels to Smite.

Since we're still in beta, the meta on many heroes and game "phases" is still up in the air. You might think that's good or bad, but it is interesting.

Most abilities have smaller cooldowns, and most heroes can be taken to multiple roles, usually mids/solos who can jungle and vice versa.

Most heroes can't snap their fingers and kill a target like a lot of smite gods do. Teamfights are still plenty lethal, though.

Wards play a little differently, and you don't have to buy new potions/wards every time you back.

I think Paragon has the potential to be a better game, and in many ways it already is.
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>>170920850
Does it feel like an FPS (third person)?
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I never knew tilt such as the type in League of Legends existed elsewhere
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>>170921559

>first person shooter(third person)

What in the name of almighty fuck is wrong with you?
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>>170921902
I know its retarded such as girl (male).

But does it feel FPSish?
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>>170921559
A little? Why are you asking this question?
>>
Ya its free just give it a go and see
>>
It is a shooter x moba game.
Play Sparrow and shoot everyone in the head no scope.
>>
I think this new update is going to be the shit.
>Tons of people playing the new hero
>hopefully a lot less people playing Aurora
>more people playing Iggy and GRIM
>80%of hero's will now build Ash of the Witch.

The only downside is there will now probably be a lot more people playing Shinbi.

Glad to see my man Kwang is still looking good this patch.
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>>170916606
Gadget's ult dealt a lot of damage if you haven't moved out of the way quickly. And now this will be much harder.
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>>170922127
>does a third person moba feel like a first person shooter
no.
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>>170920469
Craft whatever you need for a build, unless you have most of the cards already and want to have them all there is no point in crafting cards that you're not sure you need.
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>>170673172
RIP dirty bomb, fun for a little bit

splash damage is so hopelessly incompetent lmao
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>>170819694
>>170822093
7 parter doujin, this is an edit from the beginning before it goes way the fuck downhill (in a good way[?]) in shindol fashion
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>>170922673
Don't be naive.
Not many people from Paragon's playerbase read patch notes.
Fact that Yin will be in every game is good and bad at the same time. Good because I will gank that squishy bitch, bad because friendly Yin will feed enemies. Once in a while you will meet a decent Yin, if you are lucky she will be in your team, but it's gamble.

>>170923124
I still play, it's fine. But ranked matchmaking is worse than Paragon's because ranked mode opens at level 7.
RIP Dirty Bomb general.
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>>170922127
To me, yes it does in some ways. It's free man, just give it a shot.
>>
Played this game on ps4 to pass the time, had fun, yeah yeah.
Then I tried it on PC. Holy shit, how badly optimized is it? I don't really think that my 770 is any worse than whatever they put into the ps4
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>>170868081
i mean i guess you can compare the 2 but only the debuff + fire spell part of it

not like you're ever gonna see any real Mobas in the future that don't take from other, much more established mobas with massive rosters
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>>170923646
I actually think it's optimised pretty great. My roommate plays it on a crappy toster-laptop, and although it looks like shit it runs completely smooth.
>>
>170923646
It's actually pretty well optimized. Perhaps your internet connection is garbage, or you're trying to run on an emachine?
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>>170923770
It freezes and sometime crashes for me.
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So how dead is Aurora?
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>>170923770
yeah I'm not really planning to play it on 720p with minimal render distance. I'd rather stick to console controls
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>>170924063
Literally the worst hero in the game.
Evade at all costs.
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>they nerfed every single aspect of aurora
I know I said remove aurora but I didn't think they'd actually do it
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>>170925410
I couldn't be happier. She was a fucking abomination.
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>>170924063
she was dead before

waiting on reply from webster for the new word to describe aurora now
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>patch just in time for blizzard

feels good

going to take some sleeping pills right now to time travel to tomorrow
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>>170855212
So you just play with bad Narbash then.
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>>170902281
>Enemy ganking left and right
>trying to save whoever I can and die a lot
>but keep lanes pushed everytime
>we win while they engage in a 5v3 midlane
>because I had right pushed and nobody noticed until it was too late and the minions took inhib and then core.
Eheheh
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>>170923646
>1440p
>game says ideal setting is max settings but nvidea experience says it's all medium on my 1070
>get like 90 fps on max but with constant drops to fps randomly so forced to play on medium

at least I have all these extra pixels tho
>>
I mained Aurora.
Which hero should I main now?
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>>170925562
She had too much cc and mobility for the damage she could deal. I'm glad she got nerfed into the ground.

She's probably still good, just not as a carry pick.
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>>170926989
Shinbi sounds like she's gunna be hot shit next patch.
>>
So apparently Serath and Grim are the new DPS gods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO0OC8XIst4
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>>170929949
Grim was god already, it's just that most people couldn't use him for shit

Excited for Serath buff though
>>
>>170929949
Its a shame he has not seen the glory of ash of the witch yet. Shinbi and crunch are gunna be scary as hell mid game monsters
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>>170932732
Crunch already has a slow fairly often, I think a Stinger build will be more interesting.
>>
>THAT DVINE SHIELD REWORK
GOAT
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>>170933210
STinger build will be fucking wild
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>>170929949
>your waifu is getting overbuffed
I fear for the future
>>
>>170933598
Should I dismantle 4 Hemorrhages for 1 Stinger?
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>>170935341
Maybe, maybe
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>>170934475
eh we see how she turns out.
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THAT'S IT I AN SICK AND TIRED OF LOSING
I WILL PLAY COUNTESS MERCILESSLY EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME UNTIL I LEAVE THIS GOD FORSAKEN ELO
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>>170929949
>happy that everyone though grim was shit when he was actually the strongest carry
>gets an extra 100 dps
>now everyone is going to play my husbando

fucking epic games
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>>170938415
countess sucks tho
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>>170938437
>Could have 68% crit and 250 damage.
>Crit damage well over 700
Grim was on a whole nother level
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Team feeds badly.
All our t1 and t2 towers down, all their t2 up. Seems like there is not hope.
They attack our mid inhibitor, I ult, they all ded, we destroy their mid t2 and inhib, then the core.
gg ez

Sadly today is the last day of my Aurora domination. Goodbye, icy waifu!
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>>170940535
Im switching to Yin anyways
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>>170940535
>11-7 Fey
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>>170941505
it happeneds
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>tfw 13 card packs 6 loot crates and 1 loot key saved up for tomorrow's patch
Can't wait
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>Losing games off one failed team fight
who else knows this feel?
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>>170944652
Nigga don't remind me
>>
Just woke up, thoughts on the upcoming patch?
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>>170948820
shinbi is gunna be cancer. and im gunna love it
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>>170949293
Kys~
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>>170951809
t. angry aurora main
>>
Aside from the usual awful matchmaking, I've been getting terrible slowdown and frame drops recently: any idea what the latest recommended drivers are?
>>
>60 minute penalty
Good I would rather not play on a Fey Serath Aurora Sparrow Cuntess team
>>
>Invite someone
>No one ever accepts
I guess im bad
>>
>>170955743
im just always afk
>>
>just lost to an enemy team with 2 supports
>one was plat
Hmm
>>
>>170959256
no shame in losing to a rampage and aurora
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>>170959730
It was a dekker and muriel
Murdock was silver but had like 25 kills
Has to be a smurf or duo

>Aurora
Dekker man fuck that hero
>>
>it's a mid laner runs across the map instead of recalling edition
If I met these people in real life I swear I'd damn near beat them to death
>>
>>170962901
I prefer that over lazy backs.
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>>170959256
Just won in a team which made no sense
>Aurora, Countess, Grux, Greystone and Twinblast
>everyone just went wherever
>I was TB with Basic deck
IT MAKES NO SENSE. I HAD ALMOST NO IDEA WHAT MY TEAMMATES WERE DOING YET WE WON
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What the fuck are they thinking? Now it'll be ever harder for them to get new players
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>>170964179
That team does make sense
You have alot of CC and countess can one v One most heros and leave easily
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>>170965571
We didn't even pick lanes. I was solo TB on right while everyone was shuffling everywhere.
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ok which cards are worth crafting before the switch tomorrow?
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>hit 1400 elo at 62% winrate
>all of a sudden my games take a nosedive
>my teammates play like they're Brazilian
>enemy teams play like they're a premade
Hmm
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>every time I get my role or uave a solid team someone dodges
>saw a Countess with 5 shadow scrolls barely clear minion waves
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>>170966568
help
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>>170966568
I'd say all but the blight ones. Those two might be nice, but they seem far more situational than the others.
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>>170964632
it combats smurfs and locks the more advanced heros away just like how it normally does. Except instead of games played its days played.

ebin games can do no wrong
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>>170968159
so I have a question. if I'm level 8 with Grux and then buy the mastery challenge, can I use his mastery taunt unlocked at lvl 8 or do I need to be level 10 to get all rewards at once?

weird question but I've heard of people not being able to use the taunt at level 8
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>>170968845
You need to be at level 8 mastery to get it, at least in theory, but dunno for sure
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>+7 elo
>+7 elo
>+7 elo
>-9 elo
>-9 elo
>-9 elo
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>>170938415
just play adc if you're good and CARRY you team
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>>170969760
i feel ya.
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>Crunch Support
>Retarded Grim that was actively trying to sabotoge the game towards the end

The absolute worst game of Paragon I have ever played, ugh.
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>>170902281
i had a similar experience but my team was the one with the comeback
>say jungle or feed in lobby
>not only does someone else take jungle they take the character i was going to use
>insta lock grim
>suicide no less than 30 times into the enemy team
>enemy team is so fucking bad that they never get to our inhibs
>65 minute game
>at 60 power now
>end up winning by backdooring the core while the rest of my team is dead and as they start the final push(this was before protection was added)
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>>170969760
same
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>was on a huge 10 game losing streak
>now on a 5 game win streak
>tfw scared to keep playing
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>>170973117
you can do it anon
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>>170973117
you only have 2 hours m8
>>
fug back down to silver
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Does anybody have crashing problems with Paragon on PC or know how to fix them?

I have a relatively fresh up to date install of Windows 10, and all of my other games run perfectly fine on ultra so I don't think it's a glaring software or hardware issue on my end. I verified the Paragon game files and that didn't help at all. I updated to the newest Nvidia graphics drivers and that didn't help either. I even made an exception for it in Windows Defender after some googling suggesting that anti virus might be the problem. No matter what graphics settings I change to I can't stop the game from randomly crashing.

I'm out of ideas on what to do desu senpai baka
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>>170977363
uninstall the virus known as "Windows 10"
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>>170977363
buy win 10 don't pirate it my man
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>>170977576
>buy win 10
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>>170972781
> The absolute
My, you didn't see much.
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>>170977576
I have a legitimate copy
>>170977681
I didn't have a Windows 7 install to upgrade from during the free upgrade period because I was on Linux. So yes, I actually paid for a copy of Windows 10 lol
>>170977485
Everything else works fine on it like I said
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>>170968159
But what sense doest that make? I mean, locking advanced heroes away from hands of newbies until they level up is fine, but making them unlock based on days played? What kind of criteria is that?
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>>170972781
you think white squares will stop the hacker known as 4chan from stealing everyone in that pics account? call the nsa, call the marines, call your mom, because your ass is grass now.
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>>170973174
Thank you, anon. I managed to win two more games and now it's off to bed.
That last game was close though, we managed to wipe them, take 2 inhibitors and wrap the game up from there.
The enemy team was crazy though, I've seen this done before but it's still bizarre...
>two supports
>offlane Muriel
>>
>downloading update

HABBENING

thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f55RlA9mVec
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>hero unlocks appear in the reward table even if you already have them
looks like this will affect you even if you are an existing player
this update really makes me think
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>>170981002
>Open the video
>Anime girl appears and greets the player with gesture
Yeah, I guess that's not a bad way to make loading screens more enjo...
>She starts shouting like a retard in a loud and annoying and as fuck voice
>Immediately switch the video off
A-are people really into this?
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>>170981002
Iwill listen to this until my download is finished
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>chests arent given retroactively for levels
>level 44
at least i waited before i kept going. now 45 gives a diamond chest instead of 3 card packs
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>
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>>170982714
you said what now?
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did this update make everyone retarded
I just keep getting dodge after dodge because suddenly no one cares about team comp anymore
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>>170983078
most of the leveling up rewards were replaced with different tiered chests. people that hit these levels before the patch are not given the chests. level 45 prepatch would have given me 3 card packs, level 45 post patch gives me a diamond chest
>>170983438
technically the meta just changed. we dont know for sure whats good yet
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>>170983468
pretty sure sparrow support is still bad
>>
>unable to connect to chat server
i have a feeling this may be foreshadowing
>>
Is Hydroverser+Infinity Stream a meme build? I feel like this limits your build if you decide to slot the Infinity Stream with A.Pen.

It's great to have a lot of mana regen, but I feel like pure power with a couple of mana regen points would be better.
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>>170984135
hydroverser isnt very good
takes a lot of mana to even get close at max mana to the power you would get if you just went power, then if you use an ability it falls off fast
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>>170984626
>2cp of non power
>6cp dedicated to obtaining power (36 power)
>every caster ends with over 1k mana without any mana

at 500 mana you are getting 35 power which is one power shy of 6cp of power. Casters can easily push into 1.5k mana

You can get 18cp of power for 6 cp.
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>midnight muriel vault skin

feels good mane
>>
>5 minutes to find a match
>someone dodges
>5 more minutes to find a match
>someone dodges
>5 more minutes to find a match
>someone dodges


loving this patch
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>>170986649
its that fucker that isnt getting yin and locks iggy
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>>170986649
>first game first guy instapick yin
>someone gets mad and picks twin
>game starts and twin just starts feeding cuz he couldn't pick yin.
No game is an exception to new character bull shit.the yin was actually good to wtf we could have won if twin hadn't been such a bitchbaby.
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Haven't played after update yet, if everyone indeed dodges or feeds would someone here be willing to make a proper team in few hours? I have a friend who will probably gladly tag along and can play pretty well.
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>450 coins from level up chests
>buy a key
BOI
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so anyone have a favorite new item yet?
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>>170988835
ash of the witch on sevarog makes me cum
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> Yin master skin
> black and red leather, fishnet pantyhose, red rope, red lipstick, leather panties
H-hot.
Also finally a girl with sexy high heeled shoes done properly. Others didn't get this right.
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They promised specialist skins, not this time huh?
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>>170989958
they "announced" specialist skins. ie next patch probably
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> already have violet Muriel skin from loot crate
> recieve Midnight skin for her as Year One reward

Fuck, I never did and never will play this robocunt.
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>>170984135
Depends on hero.

I like high mana regeneration builds cause I dont die often as Gideon, and you need mana to drop rocks on niggas. Which you should be doing a lot
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So, have you seen a good Yin yet? One that gets many kills and never dies?
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Can someone please tell me what the latest recommended drivers are?
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>>170993881
Dale Earnhardt Jr.
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Today is a bad day to play Paragon.
It was predictable though.
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>I'm first pick
>Go Kwang
>rest of team locks in kallari, yin, khaimera and grim

I dodged that shit so fast.
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>Nobody wants to pick Aurora now that she isn't overpowered
Like clockwork
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>>170993881
Bumping to ask again: my performance has gone to shit lately.
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Is Serath overtuned?
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>>170997872
probably
>>
Every time there's an update I forget how fucking long it takes
>installing
>downloading 25%
>installing
>downloading 26%
>installing
>installing
>installing
>installing
>installing
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>>170988436

get out epic marketing.
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>>170998379
>epic
>marketing
If only.
Those banners are ugly as sin and are fucking retarded as a concept
>>
1v1 a Yin last game with Rampage. She froze my rock with her ult then walked into it and got stunned anyway.

>mfw
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Well...
I must say Aurora's ult is still balanced op.
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>>171001540
Forgot the pic.
But still, is super feeding Yin an absolute necessity in every game? For how long will this madness continue?
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>>170933435
Are card cooldowns affected by Chronomancer Disc?
>>
Why are there two of chronomancer disc and chronospike in the base set when they're both unique passives meaning you'd only ever want to use one of them in a deck
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>>170994387
I'm not going to be playing Yin so today is a perfect day form me.
Countess and Belica every game since they gutted Aurora.

I'm so glad they also balanced Rampage was sick of the Rampage every game with 2 second stuns.

Also for me it's back to playing Shinbi
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>>171003253
CD reduction used to be something you could build on Legacy, but Monolith's much faster game speed reduced cooldowns across the board, so they had to change the cards to reflect that.
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>>171003785
Weong image
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Anyone find some good strats in the new changes? The second someone here mentioned Ashe of The Withc on Shinbi/ Grey, the very same observation popped up on Reddit, so let's try to keep what we find a /vg/ sekrit club secret.
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Is Hydroverser good on Shinbi?
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>wasteland twinblast

just fucking kill me then
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>>171003910
post yfw i hunter's guile your ult for the 5th time this game
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>>171005565
I told my friend about Ash card and he said he thinks nobody will use it. How hard do you think he's going to regret not crafting it before the switch?
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>>171005840
hydroverser isn't good on anyone
>>
Anybody tried thermobond on HP stacked greystone yet?
>>
So on a scale from viable to mandatory, how good is Ash of the Witch now?
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>>171008986
meta defining must have in every deck on every hero
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>>170765096
Dunno man, seems like late game domination from the looks of it
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>>170784964
This phenomenon happened in one of my games as well. What the fuck is going on?
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>>171009807
Fuck off faggot

Has anyone actually had some games with Ash of the Witch?
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>>171010340
Just played against bots.
I never played Shinbi much, kinda struggle with mana.
Need to test against players.
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>it's a yin feeds 20 kills to serath and she 2 hits everyone episode
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>>171011578
Your best bet is to rape their Yin more than yours die and carry the team with that.
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>>171010340
Not as useful as you might've thought
Anybody looking to play? #21 on the pastebin
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>>171013023
I will be playing with a friend of mine in about 5-10 minutes. Username's sargos, 11 on pastebin I think I have you in friends all ready. Rather no voice chat though, since he can't speak English too well
>>
Which one should I main and play mid now? Shinbi or Countess?
It was a nice ride with Aurora.
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>>171013479
shinbi
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>>171013479
Shinbi is a monster right now.
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Ass of the Witch or Ash of the Bitch?
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Anyone plat Yin yet? How is she
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>Midnight Muriel skin
Yeah, don't read my profile data to see that I suck with'/ never play Muriel and that. all things considered, I might want the Monarch skin for Murdock, my main.
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>>171019365
I got monarch sparrow, monarch and pumpkin murdock, and midnight muriel
Good times
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>>171019365
Same. And I got another one for her from a loot crate before.
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>>171019429
>pumpkin Murdock
Everyone had that, but the only people who bothered to unlock it permanently are either normalfags with active Facebook accounts, or turbo-autists who made one for it.
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>>171019956
So that means only few people have it
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>>171019308
I just unlocked master skin with her today. She's pretty fun.
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>>170988436
>>170999029
You could say.. the banners are an abomination
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>>171018820
ass ass ass ass ass ass ass
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>>171021506
From zero to Master in one day? Are you are wizard?
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How the fuck do I get out of silver rank as a support player.
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>>171027075
don't solo q
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lol

I mean, I didn't get much that I'll use out of it, just a few base skin swaps, an Iggy skin and a Feng Mao mastery that is no longer as valuable as it might have been, but still. And a shitload of coins and cards.
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>>171023110
You might, at that.
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>>171028421
how did you get 14 diamond chests?
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>>171028661
Awarded for the mastery levels I unlocked before the system was introduced. You should get some, too, if you've been leveling up masteries. There's surely a post on Reddit about it.
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>>171027283
My only friend playing is gold and they're even more retarded since they tend to ignore destroying wards more than silver players for some ungodly reason.
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>>171029035
what if I purchase masteries now? do they retroactively reward them? I have a few heroes close to ten but didn't buy the mastery yet
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>>171029239

fix it then. then tell them to rate you "strategist" after the game.
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>>171029239
look for people to play with here or any other Paragon community
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why didn't I get me year one founders gift? what the fuck ebin
>>
>>171029360
Not quite sure how that works desu. I bought Belica's mastery (had her at level 6) to check, but nothing happened. Then again, the 14 crates were only awarded after I completed a game, so it's possible that they're just locked behind a victory. It's also possible that they're locked until you level up the character again, but it's also possible that you just don't get anything.

tl;dr I dunno.
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>muting a player doesn't mute their pings
which literal retard thought this was okay
>>
>>171029427
>>171029748
Sorry for bitching about the game. I really like it but it makes me really salty.
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>>171028421
I had 15
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>>171032035
just tried it, you get the chests right away.
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>>170735854
Purity makes her useless.
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>tfw tearing all these tiny women new assholes with grux
i love this update
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>played against the zame person 3 times
>lost all 3
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this game is rigged
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>>171035436
Don't remind me
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>>171035436

not sure what happened to the matchmaking, if anything, but i was queueing with and against the same people in 3-4 games with frequent dodges in between.
>>
pro tip

check your emails for the yin announcement and click on the diamond towards the bottom for a free code.
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>>171033604
Cool, good to know.
>>
did all of the oldfags get Monarch Dekker?
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>>171037882
>nothing
I know they have my email: I spent money on their damn coins ffs.
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>>171039154
Got Muriel
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>>171039519
OK ANON let me help you out

UB5VH-SZU8E-U9BVN-ARZME
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>>171036332
Same here.
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>you DO get diamond chests retroactively
thank god
>>
>mfw founder
Heeehehheehehh
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>>171040261
you didn't at first, people complained and epic fixed it like an hour later
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>>171040140
O-okay.
What do I do with it?
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>>171040591
oh i figured it was a bug that we didnt get them at first. thank god they listened
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>>171033604
Turns out the chest was in my inventory, I just didn't get notified of it. Good stuff.
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>>171040660
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/redeem?code=UB5VH-SZU8E-U9BVN-ARZME
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>>171040820
>3k reputation
t-thanks
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>>171040820
I got a key, gave me blue lizard murdock
now I won't have to play as a nigger anymore
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>>171040820
Cool, thanks anon. Assuming this guy >>171041150 didn't beat me to it.
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>>171041383
its not a one person code
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870 COINS AND ALREADY HAVE THE SKINS AND EMOTES I WANT
CRATES?
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>>171041794
gib coins pls
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>>171041631
>>171041383
Cool, got me some Rep. Better than not having gotten it: thanks again anon.

>>171041794
Save them if there's nothing you want: stuff's always coming out.
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>>171042208
>>171042179
i didnt save them
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>someone pings something stupid like "attack orb prime" while all the enemies are still up and waiting to pounce
>ping "No"
>game says "Not right now..."
that's not the same thing at all
why does the option say no if the ping doesn't say no
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how much skill does Yindall Jenner take? she looks kind of tough to use.
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>>171042379
Would have been a better choice, you have my condolences.
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>>171042379
i dont understand banners. why should I spend ten dollars on one?
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>>171044135
you shouldn't
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>play Yin offlane
>against a grim
>shoots his stupid knockaway at me
>i reflect it
>it hits behind him and he gets thrown into my turret
>i hop on him for the kill
LMAOOOOO
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>>171044925
you got lucky kid. i'll get you next time
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>countess serath yin
I really don't give a shit who plays Yin but come on with these picks
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>>171045330
You're not going to actually try to ult me are you

Just a reminder projectiles that go through her ultimate ate halted not slowed
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FUCK IF I DON'T GET THE FUCKING YIN I GET THE FUCKING KALLARI AND SERATH FUCK
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>>171046073
its the new meta dude calm down
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>>171047389
Yeah new meta feed until you die
>>
>tfw your squad shows up to rape the 2 people who chased you for 2 minutes
>>
It's a "nobody has the balls to initiate the fight so you all stand around doing nothing" match
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>>171051339
>someone tries to initiate a fight on our team
>they die instantly
>someone tries to initiate a fight on their team
>they die instantly but then win the fight
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>>171051339
>It's a "nobody has the balls to just push the damn core when the enemy team has two disconnects, mid inhib down, and all three enemies dead" episode
just fucking destroy the core motherfuckers, why do you keep taking down towers?
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>>171051718
>most of enemy team dead
>most of ours alive
>take orb prime
>people decide now is the best time to farm jungle, hearth to spawn and push lanes to last inhibitors
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Well, I quit Paragon a couple weeks before Shinbi was released and was planning on putting all my chips on For Honor.

However, that game is a broken, unbalanced mess. It was fun at first, but it quickly lost both its appeal and over half of its playerbase within two weeks.

At least Paragon is free when it's unbalanced.

Is the game worth picking up again, or have there been any new controversial patches that ruined it?
>>
>tfw carried as Yinsuo
Hahahahahehheheehehe elo climb here i come
>hopping on grey as he ults
>dodge ult and finish him off
>ult during teamfight
>triple kill because every ranged player and every projectile just STOPS
HAHAHAHEHEHEHHEEHEH
>>
>>171052860
you mean yesterdays patch?
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>>171052860
it's more fun that for honor i'll tell you that. new patch seems to be most balanced game has been in a while and here you don't have to worry about getting carried to the edge of the map and thrown off
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>>171052860
>putting chips on anything made by Ubisoft
played yourself
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>>171052976

So the game is unplayable for how broken it is now?
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>post yfw the next hero is yang
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>>171053016

Rainbow Six Siege is my favorite competitive FPS and I've put thousands of hours into it.

Was hoping For Honor would follow suit, but it seems R6S was just a flash in the pan.
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>>171053197
Water support pls
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>Haven't played since before K-Pop
>Log in today
>A shitload of free diamond chests

Nice.
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>toxic crybaby Yin who Good Jobs me after they indirectly cause my death
>leave them to handle the lane alone and go help the offlaner instead
>mfw I don't good job them when they inevitably die
Won't give you the satisfaction fgt
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>>171006997
>oh cool, does Wasteland Twinblast have sideburns? That's nea-
>it's just a shitty tat
Bad luck, son: I got Wasteland Rampage the other day and wasn't best pleased.
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>>171033429
It's not a contest anon.
Fuck you
>>
>yesterday I had 30k rep and 400 coins
>getting chests and loot crates like candy
>today I have 150k rep and 1500 coins
wew I was almost considering dropping some money for some items but thanks again ebin
>>
>>171054552
I hope they keep the ball rolling. Those prices are outrageous but if they keep making me happy I might actually drop a couple bones on this game.
>>
>about to win
>our iggy is splitting
EVERY FUCKING GAME SOMEONE IS SPLITTING STOP FUCKING SPLITTING YOU DONT NEED TO SPLIT ALL THE WAY TO THEIR FUCKING BASE
>>
>be Sparrow
>Support Riktor a pro and always helps out
>Going through river to get buff while he's behind me
>See it's a black buff, lucky me
>Take it without a second thought
>See Riktor behind me
>He pauses, he wanted it to restore mana
I am so inconsiderate. Riktoranon, if you're here, I hope you have it in your heart to forgive me. You were a great support and you did great putting up with me.

I am so sorry.
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>>171056446
I sometimes split if we have another lane pushed just to give it a nudge to move faster so that the enemy has to deal with 2 lanes rather than just one
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>second pick, put up Rampage jungle
>first pick takes Serath jungle
>fine, I'll go safelane with the Yin
>2 carries, but whatever
>4th pick locks in Murdock
>Yin still goes ahead with their pick
Thank fuck someone dodged. Why do something like that? This is the quality of people you're playing with on a daily basis, /parag/: retards that have no idea what they're doing.
>>
Do passives stack? Can I put 2 Merciless on Grux and get +24 crit on bleeding people?
>>
I haven't played in a month or so.

What's this I'm reading here about just pushing one lane, knocking down the inhib and diving the core?

Is that really better than pressuring multiple lanes and at least taking two inhibs so they have to divide attention?
>>
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>Come back to Paragon
>4 one handed melee waifus released in a row

What the fuck is happening?
>>
>>171057852
quote what you're talking about
>>
>>171058286

>>171056446
>>171051718
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>>171057852
If teams are even or your team is at a disadvantage numbers wise, split pushing is often a good idea. People here are complaining that when they have an advantage, teammates waste time pushing multiple lanes instead of grouping up to quickly push one lane while the enemy team is respawning.
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>>171056446
>>171051718
>>171057852

>plebs learning about rat doto for the first time

rat or die
>>
Where the fuck can I see all the banners?
Why don't they have a model of the banner in the store instead of a picture?
>>
just how different is Paragon from other mobas aside from the obvious perspective and control differences ?
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>>171062182

It has actual graphics.
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>Doomsday Steel skin on sale, 33% off
>1005 coins
Surely they know how dumb it looks.
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>>171058229
>3 of them are worse than iggy
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>>171063934
>basically every chest in the game now gives you 40 coins minimum
w-woah
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>bought the Energised Twin skin because the variations look great
>the default, not so much
Come on loot crates.
>>
>>171064108
>FUCKING EPIC GAMES ADDING IN ALL THIS CASH SHOP SHIT REEE
>next week everybody gets a shit ton of free stuff

lel entitled fags got btfo
>>
>>171064108
Good. Coins were like gold dust before this update, I went months without any dropping.
>>
so is shinbi good now?
>>
>be countessfag
>can now 1v1 rampage
Thanks epic.
>>
>>171057327
To be honest, it's when I have the most confusing team comp, that I'm sure I'll win, but I just won't know how
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>>171064750
shes was good before but is great now
>>
Opinions on deck?
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/deckbuilder/en-US/decks/MezMezzy/36000e8e-8771-4c1a-acf6-fc8f2dbff62a
It seems to work out in most matches, and given the upgrade boosts, I get pretty decent attack speed. Though I'm still a silver shitter, and I've yet to make it to 60 CP with her so I still couldn't get it to the 96% crit chance

So any way to make this better?
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>its another yin goes 1/15 episode and 'gets back at you' by taking every jungle camp and then dying some more
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>entire team takes every single jungle camp for 40 minutes
>wonders why im the last to hit 60 power
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>mfw getting into a groove with Rampage
Holy shit he's fun.
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>>171066358
It does happen sometimes, but I don't think it's worth the risk.

>>171066792
You don't need anywhere near that amount of crit: build two of the Spears with damage (12% incidental crit for both completed), then 2 x 3 point wounds and one strike in another spear.
Put at least one major kinetic in one whirling wand.
Crit chance should be just below 50%.
As for the crit bonus card, it's good practise to make the upgrades as cheap as possible (3 x 1 point cards), so I wouldn't bother with something you're not already building: a Feral stone with three minor kinetics would be good, but the lifesteal will help a little if you decide to go ahead with it.
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>>171068684
Shit man, a feel I know all too well.
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>>171066792
you should have some cheap early-game cards with minor upgrades to get ahead in farming and kills from the start. My Sparrow brings a ward and then starts building a cheap Whirling Wand and Windcarver blade to carry me through the first 20 minutes. After that, I start building the ward proper.
>>
>get to 1689
>lose 3/4 games
>get to 1688
>lose 3/4 games
>get to 1687
>lose 3/4 games
STOP
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>>171069745
I agree, stop losing so damn much.
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>playing Ramapge
>rotate to push back a wave on safelane
>enemy team Yin carves chunks out of my massive scaly hide every time she gets close, not a fight I'm going to be winning
>like clockwork, she appears and fucks me up hard
>try to escape but know I'm done for
>my team rotate in the nick of time to scare her off and chase her back down the lane
>I'm at the safelane t1 tower, she's made it just beyond her t1 with my team chasing her
>"well, why the fuck not"
>pick up a rock and give it a toss in her general direction
>direct hit
>team finish the job
>>
fucking hate these idiots
>>
>>171069346
>>171069696
The problem is I have very few "minor" cards, and the Lifesteal helps when I need it. The final plan is to solo orb as fast as possible and be a real force to be reckoned with considering 96% is gonna send almost everybody running. Also, in the end, I remove the ward to make space only to replace it with an empty ward, the crit and the percent of it should suffice in theory for damage.
>>
>>171071595
I can see what you're going for man, but it's not optimal. If you want to have a ward, you should incorporate it into your deck as a source of damage. As an ADC, Sparrow's natural damage is good, but investing that much in crit is gimping you. If you don't have that many minor cards, then make the cheapest one you can for early game and save what's left for the crit bonus card. The empty ward taking up space might work when you have a bunch of expensive upgrades in the others, but it's not a done thing. I would reconsider some of the choices, but maybe just make a compromise between what was listed above and what you can afford to do with the cards you have.
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>>171053062
It's not the game that was broken by this patch, it's the playerbase. They all pick random shit and feed their hearts out now.
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>our howtizer loses mid to fucking riktor
>offlane gets solod by iggy
>i have to kill their entire team myself multiple times
>i have to get the inhib myself
>lose to minions because our team dives their core without our minions
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>>171071828
That's the plan, but Sparrow has a pretty good attack speed to begin with. The completed whirling wands give 22 attack speed, which is enough since when I finish that, I find it good enough. The damage she deals is also great, but I still haven't been able to build crit yet to a good extent since I focus on the lifesteal first before the crit. The amount of crit I did get (10%) showed me enough to be impressed. And due to the new chest system, I crafted another 2 lesser drains, so I guess that's one problem fixed
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>>171072664
>howtizer loses mid to fucking riktor
>offlane gets solod by iggy
Looks like plat is no different than gold.
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>>171072980
platinum is the shiniest bronze in both paragon and league
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>>171072874
Good stuff, but I'd insist that you get your crit percentage down to just under/ hovering around 50%. Make up the points difference in either damage, attack speed or lifesteal, but do cut back on it.
Alternatively, replace a couple of the Spears of The Rifthunter with Riftmagus Sceptres: they're like shitty Micro Nukes, but they're universal.
That way you can build decent incidental damage while still using the crit cards you've accumulated.
>>
>>171073054
Fuck, going to be a long wait for competitive play.
>>
just played my first game as jungle serath. she does so much damage end game wtf. jungling makes me so anxious though.
>>
>>171073193
But 96% crit man, half the people getting shot by me lategame are gonna call me broken. With the 100% crit bonus and the lifesteal, I can solo orb prime and hopefully have full health to boot.

Hell, I'm even considering getting rid of the blink and replacing the strikes with Major Strikes, with the final card being an empty Spear of Rifthunter to get 100% crit chance
>>
SO chests arent showing up, and I see epic said its a known issue right now they are working on. am i ever going to be able to see what my first chest i opened was?
>>
how
>>
goodnight bump
>>
>>171073472
More power to you man. I don't bother with Blink Charms, I just try to position myself well: doesn't always work out, because there's an element of chance in everything, but it does free up five points.
Why not make two builds: one with all the crit, and one that's more balanced? That way you can feel out where changes can be made. One important thing is being able to feel a smooth progression in power, but you have 4 point crit cards inthere, so it's going to be sow going.

This might be interesting to you: he's playing on a smurf account and doesn't have much to work with, so the situation's similar even if the cards and build are insanely different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtvWgXzZRvs&list=PLM8AD7aoQyI5nhVNBD5rWkI4kUkKzgvKi&index=17
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>>171074073
The losses and deaths might be concentrated on the first few games in the list: try winning a few more so they get bumped out.
>>
>>171074073
>>171074217
wait what's the issue here?
>>
>>171074356
i just suck so bad but somehow we keep winning.
>>
>>171074356
I'm assuming they're not happy that their KDA doesn't reflect their score.
>>
>>171074478
are you playing support most of the time? this is a fine KDA if you're playing support but KDA in general doesn't matter too much, as long as you got objectives
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>>171074356
>>171074497
>>171074728
i just feel like ive advanced in elo for some reason consistently, but everyone has gotten better and i just keep getting worse.
im in gold right now, and i actually just did okay in our last game for once.
i want to start playing with a group but i feel like i just suck so bad.
>>
>>171075038
you're trapped in elo heaven
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>>171075038
General tips:
Try playing more conservatively and only go for fights and kill you know you can win.
Push a wave and leave if there's no one else in the lane or in the general area, then group with your teammates for whatever.
Know your hero matchups: who you can comfortably kill, who can 1v1 you.
Ward fucking everywhere.
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>>171075209
>elo heaven
what do I have to do to get there?
>>
>>171075310
If you have to ask, you'll never know.
>>
>>171074128
Hmm, thanks, earlygame I find base damage more valuable, and the crit build-up happens with the removal of the ward, so then I start up bretty good. And yeah, without escapes, I find I need that blink
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>3 are dead
>ping prime
>serath decides now is the time to split
>sparrow decides now is the time to farm the jungle
>belica decides now is the time to 1v3
>sparrow starts prime 3 minutes later
>when theyre all within sight of it
>lose game within 50 seconds
>>
>win 3 in a row
>lose 3 in a row
Can you stop
>>
>Doing fine in offlane
>Jungler, carry, mid all hanging out in my lane for some reason
>Getting pushed back in offlane
>Everybody's on the other half of the map
>>
>lol countess why you run from the 3v2
>what are you stupid
>are you a pacifist
>lol countess you know left click does dmg right
holy shit faggots leave me alone. you know it was your fault you died for fighting that dumb fight right?
>>
>>171078340
the annoying part about this for me is that people like that literally DON'T know that its their fault
>>
>>171078340
>2 of the enemies are low
>third is full health
>all of us are full health
>countess runs away
>lose fight
w-woah!
>>
>>171078340
>t2 tower needs 3 more hits to be taken down
>half hp aurora runs past tower and throws a statue to go attack a full hp howitzer
>team attacks tower since it's only 3 hits and we don't want to back up stupid aurora while taking tower damage
>in that time dumb aurora gets killed
>WHY DIDNT YOU GUYS COME WITH ME OMG

every time
>>
>people who are awful and die every time they fight
>instead of realizing that they need to get good, they conclude that fighting always results in dying and spam retreat pings while running away no matter how big an advantage the team has in the fight
>>
>Its a jungler never helps left lane and then blames them episode
>>
>>171080841
I think we can all agree junglers are the worse kind of people

junglers get out
>>
>>171080915
There needs to be a rule book for jungling early game
>>
>retard decides to YIN JUNGLE XD
>so everyone else picks carries while yin calls herself a semi carry
Like why does the enemy team NEVER have a fucking problem
>>
"I need to take something from you..."

She didn't wait for my response, her hands deftly undid my pants and
they were around my knees in a blink. She took me in her mouth and the
feelings of joy radiated from my cock to all my extremities. She had
mentioned when I first me her that she was famous amongst the men she
knew for her oral abilities. She was not a braggart, she was the best
I'd ever had. I have a nickname for her "Suck Queen" although I have
never told her. She might be proud or she might be pissed...so I never
mentioned it. She crawled forward as she took more of me, her hands
around my ass, walking me backwards towards her bed. Her web, her
lair, her power place. As I fell backwards onto the bed she let me
slip out of her mouth and busied herself removing my shoes, socks,
pants until there was nothing between her and my hard on. She leaned
forward and kissed me again, and I could taste my pre-cum on her lips.
She let her Satin robe fall and I leaned back onto the stack of
pillows. Her eye contact never stopped as she knelt between my legs
and held my cock upright. "You have such a beautiful cock...it's very
schlongy...and it's dripping sweet stuff, I love it." She held the
base of my cock tightly which caused it to get even harder, the veins
were bulging and the pre-come kept flowing, running down the sides.
She turned her head sideways and kissed me on the sensitive spot. She
applied suction with her lips and ran her tongue around in circles at
the spot simultaneously. My heart pounded, my head throbbed. She made
a loud slurping sound as she engulfed my cock in her lip lock.
Immediately she took the first three inches into her mouth and started
nipping me with her teeth. Not too hard, love bites. It makes me crazy
and very hard.
>>
>>171081598
BBBBBRRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPP
>>
>>171081598
"Your cock is so big...do you have something for me?"


"You bet sweetheart...show me what you do best..." I groaned to her. I
didn't have to tell her twice, because in a heartbeat she swallowed me
to my balls. She started this soft, sexy moaning around my man-meat,
which only made me leak sweet stuff more copiously. The more I leaked,
the more and louder she groaned. It was as if my juice was necessary
for her to live. Again she made eye contact and held my cock with
just her teeth. She gazed deep into my eyes while she reached behind
her to unfasten the demi-bra. It fell to the bed and she cradled my
balls in her left hand while stroking me with her right. Her saliva
was flooding my cock, and made a slick mess of the staff as she jacked
me rhythmically in a cadence she knew well. I swear, my cockhead
flared to twice it's size which brought a delightful moan from my
little suck queen. She increased the tempo, and her sounds got
louder. You could hear her hand and mouth sounds...separate from her
moans as she expertly worked my cock. Just a bit faster, just a bit
firmer on her grip...Throb, Throb, Throb...the contractions were
starting deep in my prostrate. She kneeled closer to me and started
dragging her nipples on my thighs. I moaned my approval and scraped
some of our mutual slime off my cock and rubbed it into her nipples.
They stuck out from her gorgeous breasts like pencil erasers. More of
her eye contact, she batted her lashes at me and dove in for more.
Mmmhhhhppppphhhh.......mmmmmmmmm, louder, faster, as I responded her
sounds got higher...uh huh..............uh huh........Yes.....uh huh,
mmmmm,mmmmmm MMMMMMMMMMM and I saw stars. The first jolt came from my
toes, lights flashed in my brain, my hearing and vision became acute.
Throb.....juice.....throb....juice....throb....juice.. I must have
spurted six or seven times compared to my normal three. She let my
cock slip out of her mouth for the last two spurts and let them land
on her tits.
>>
>open Silver chest
>get gold chest
>opens gold chest
>get diamond chest
Hmmm
>>
>>171085009
>open chest
>can't see what I got
It's been happening all day.
>>
>want to play Yin
>last pick threatens to feed
>I'm just trying to climb
>give in
Wish it was bannable
>>
>>171085290
>want to feed
>last pick threatens to feed
is it really that important who does the feeding
>>
>>171085009
And then
>open diamond chest
>get silver chest
The circle continues!
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>>171085807

>>171087885
>>171087885>>171087885
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