/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>170937376
>it's an "enemy with hyper armor and lots of health does an unstoppable 8 hit combo and you just have to wait for it to stop" episode

Stop it From

Ds3 has really good enemy design. Only thing is that they have some good attacks to counter r1 spam, but it just isn't fast enough, so they'll still get stunlocked.

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>>170937428
it is fun, but you either gotta be patient with the poison, run around the mercury or use the ultra greatsword and realize it does less than a straight sword at best.

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>DLC final boss is the snake from pic related
Pls

>>170937376
You already did that guy, From. He just gained weight, and a belly flop now. Still pissed that we can't get the two-man saw weapon, for the record.

Can I get a quick rundown on Souls lore?

>>170937829
Clandestine coat might make for a nice SS uniform.

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nth for best boss

>>170937997
>Gwyn's daughter guarding the true first flame

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>>170930820
Gwyndolin was totally a trap in DS1.

I think he adopted a more masculine identity after he stopped living in his father's shadow after DS1.

>>170937997
When it's a huge thing like that, it's almost certain to be a gimmick fight. I much prefer humanoid enemies desu.

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>>170938149
Really? I actually got that for my jew character, so...

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there is 4.5 bosses in TRC DLC2.

1. Demon Prince
2. Aman the Abyss Dragon
3. The White King
4. Gael the Mad
5. Filianore

Filianore is the most interesting, she has five stages:

1. filianore
2. pus of man

- dies and is reborn here -

3. avatar of man pt. 1
4. avatar of man pt. 2

- dies and is reborn for the last time

5. pain of ages

>>170938407
Hmm maybe not then.

Still new to DaS3. How the fuck do I get this brown nigger with a sword near Firelink Shrine? I can't parry for shit.

>>170938429
>no demon of feces
Seems fake.

>>170938639
parry

the new greatsword looks good, I really hope it has an original moveset

>>170938639
You hit him until he is dead. If he kills you try hitting harder next time.

>>170938639
jump

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>the pigs at majula are harder to kill than hollows in armor
Explain this shit.

So how does using the black separation crystal regularly effect matchmaking?

>>170939006
Pigs have more souls.

>>170939163
It doesn't.

>>170939006
>tfw the cat in Majula is the only npc in the franchise who doesn't lie or try to control you

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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.

>>170939449
Laurentius, Benhart, Lucathiel, Crestfallen were very nice to us though

>>170939006
They're really fat

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>>170939538

>>170938129
>dragons in charge of a boring, gray world
>flame appears out of nowhere
>creates light and shadows and shit
>4 people each take one piece of the flame which grants them immense power
>Furtive Pygmy (basically one of the first humans) takes his part and fucks off, splits his soul (the Dark Soul) to create humanity
>the other 3 (Gwyn, Witch of Izalith, Nito) decide to fight the dragons together with Seath the scaleles dragon who's a cuck and was bullied for not being a proper dragon
>Gwyn's son switches sides because he's a dragonfucking furry retard
>they fuck up the dragons real bad anyway. Kill almost all of them
>Witch fucks off beneath the earth and creates retarded pyromancies and demons (on accident) with her sisters
>Nito fucks off back to the Catacombs and chills there. he's based as fuck
>Gwyn gives Seath a big library near the big city he built for his family and lets him fuck his wife and/or daughter which may or may not have consequences later on
>in order to keep the flame burning you have to keep throwing shit into it (usually powerful beings)
>Gwyn sacrifices himself first and after him many more come to burn to keep the world as we know it going
>if you don't, the Flame will go out and the world will fall into darkness. No one really knows what exactly happens then, but it is implied in Dark Souls 3 that even if the flame goes out, some embers or smaller flames might appear somewhere, which basically means it's never too late to relight the flame

Some (a lot of this) may be wrong but Dark Souls lore is mostly retarded desu. Not many things are explicitly stated and you have to kind of piece it togerther. Just google if you wanna know more. That's just the early shit

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>>170937376
>that damage
>it's probably just on NG

>>170937376
I'm pretty fucking excited for a fully relised Kiln area that was promised in the early leaks.

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>>170938562
I'll still consider it tho, since idk what other top would work.

>>170940374
It's a pretty slow attack.
Lothric Knights hit just as hard

>Earthen Peak in DLC

So Lorian was the prince that the medusa bitch wanted to fuck?

>>170940752
earthen peak is there just to make a mockery of elevator and give lewd outfit
only now instead of going up nonsensically there's a hole down that nonsensically leads to DS1 firelink

>>170938292

>not Gwyn's son's evolved chaos bug form

Amd we already fought him in demon ruins anyway

There, 10 swordgrass. Thank god the best reward is the first one.
This was the first time in 3 I did much invading, and holy shit, Ds3 invasions might be the least fun thing in the franchise. Stacked odds, twinks and ganks everywhere, old news I know, but god damn. I thought people were exaggerating, but no, all true, it really is that bad.

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>>170939449

Shalquoir is one of the most mysterious characters in the series.

>>170940941

What are you even talking about?

>>170940941
>Final boss is horribly mutated Solaire
>For the entire fight he's moaning garbled quotes from earlier games

Would love and hate this.

>>170939449
Ludleth is very honest, Siegward, Solaire, there's plenty examples.

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FFFFF WHY ISN'T IT THE 15th YET

>>170941635
Because time is convoluted, anon.

Hey guys i am downloading DS2 SOTFS, which i have never played before, i want to have fun but be a strengthfag, is that possible in ds2? Oh yea when i get the bonefists i'll probably replay all the bosses.

>>170941635
>Gertrude fucked an angel and laid an egg
But what does it all mean.

>>170941760
It means that the final boss is a angel baby.

>>170941635
what happens the 15th? dlc is out the 28th right?

>>170941051
>Part of watchdog gank covenant
>Still conplaining about stacked odds
Only annoying thing in ds3 pvp is healing pivot/being able to move, and rolling is low good for its low stamina costs.

>>170941920
Based Vaati gets to play the full DLC the 15th
He'll spoil everything

>>170942007
That nigga gets all the best shit.

>>170941841
>Final boss of DS is a burned dude
>Final boss of DLC is a massive sorcery using beast
>Final boss of DS2 is a decrepit lady
>Final boss of DLC2 is a massive flame using beast
>Final boss of DS3 is several burned dudes
>Final boss of DLC3 is a massive divine using angel

Poetry.

>>170941754
>DS2 SOTFS
>i want to have fun
Anon, I have some bad news.

>>170942129
That's because he's not a nazi like Pewjewsdie

Is there any story on why Cleric in DaS1 starts out in the Way of the White covenant? Do all clerics hail from there?

>>170942220
I don't care that you were disappointed and overhyped i don't have that problem so i'll be fine.

>>170941754
Absolutely
STR weapons are great in Dark Souls 2. Massive damage, lots of fun ones. Strike damage is OP
You can legitimately play through the game with only Greatshield jump attacks

Scaling is generally lower and base damage is MUCH higher

So, just where the fuck did the Dragonslayer's Armor come from? Its a pretty random boss all things considered.

>>170942312

Knight starts with WoW as well. I think it's just common for knights and clerics to be part of that faith.

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Guy using dark sword that tried parrying my ultra greatsword nonstop. I thought those didn't exist anymore.

>>170942963
It's a suit of armor used by Lothric dragonslayers back in the day, animated by the Pilgrim Butterflies to prevent you from reaching the Grand Archives. What's not to get?

I'm doing a faith build in DS3. What should I expect?

>>170943231
It's never too late to be new

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>>170942497
>disappointed and overhyped
It's just a bad game anon. I can't speak for the DLC, but the rest of the DS2 is easily the worst in the series.

>>170943231
There's just as many darksword shitters as there is Butcher shitters.

>>170941093
is slutcat the tom bombadil-o of soulsbourne

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>>170943435
I guess, but up to the untended grave? they should've at least learned that they couldn't parry me.

>>170943943
pve never teaches you what can and can;t be parried.
Hell, even pvp does a poor job of teaching that since there's no difference between an unparryable move and a failed attempt at parrying, and the inconsistencies in timing due to netcode mean that there's never any certainty that the failure was not human-error.

People only learn that ultras are all unparryable when 2H by looking it up online or dueling for hours and hours and hours. Random casual invaders who don't care enough to seek out a community don't really have any way of learning.

is there any difference matchmaking wise between SL120 and SL125?

will I miss all those SL100 fellas summoning me if I'm SL125?

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>>170944239
Fair enough, I started by using great hammers so I kinda got it on my first run but I get that not everyone does that.

What's the DaS2 Longsword of DaS3?

>>170944702
>>170944702
Longsword.

>>170941987
>gank covenant
Shit, you're right, it must be even worse usually.

>Only annoying thing in ds3 pvp is healing pivot/being able to move, and rolling is low good for its low stamina costs.
That's it, huh?
The host is running away. What do you do?

>DaS3 will never have Sack as a helm slot
Why live, bros?

How likely is it that I'd get banned if I ce'd in 99 souls of a great champ and used them all as soon as I got to firelink?

>Playing around with http://rezuaq.tumblr.com/newArea
>Get Blight World
What sort of magical place is Blight World?

>decide to hop back into DS2 for invading
>get someone in Eleum Loyce
>immediately pulls the plug
>check his profile
>hundreds of hours between all three soul games

Glad to see some things remain unchanged

>>170943258
To hit things with a raw ASS then later switch to hitting things with a raw DCA, though you don't have to, they're just the best options basically. If you're okay with giving Irina severe conniptions you can get Gnaw, Deep Protection, and Dark Blade early on for some actually decent early miracles besides just heals. You can also slap Dancer and run the castle even earlier than that to get Blessed Weapon, Bountiful Light, and Magic Barrier from nearly the beginning of the game.

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>>170945589

>>170943258
To lose faith in your build.
Don't. Seriously, don't. It's the worst class of magic in a game with really really bad magic.

>>170945589
>The Shrine
>The Londo
>The Brume Valley Tower of the First Flame
>The Undead Majula
This is silly.

>>170945589
>Blighteleum Catacombs
>Grand Sinner's Things
>The Undead Outskirts of the First Flame
>Drangleic Londo

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>>170945589
how private is it?

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>>170945589
>Keep of the Deep
you think you're so fucking funny don't you

>>170944702
>every move is godlike
>destroys people in a single roll catch combo
>good at defensive, passive, or aggressive play
>rewards mastery and skill
>capable of dealing with any type of weapon

Doesn't exist

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>>170945589

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Post new WAs for existing weapons that have no chance of happening but that you think would be ten times more fun/cool than whatever shitty WA they have now.

>Great Mace: Blessed Strike
>Enchant the mace with light, allowing it to slowly regenerate the wielder's health and deal increased damage. Any attacks which strike a surface will leave behind a ball of energy which explodes after a delay.

>Fume Ultra Greatsword: Nadalia's Flame
>Call forth the power of Nadalia, Bride of Ash, to enwreathe the weapon with dark flames.

>Darkmoon Longbow: Gwyndolin's Barrage
>Charge the bow with magic power, and let loose a storm of arrows.

>Dragonslayer Spear: Dragonslayer Bolt
>Focus the power of lightning into the tip of the spear, and let loose a bolt of lightning at distant targets.

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>>170945589
>The Ash Valley of Sacrifices
>Undead Crystal Domain of the Giants
>The Painted Quelaag's Londo
>Sen's Wood

>>170940941
Is this the Solaire being the rockworm theory?
Why is that theory even a thing?

>>170945589
>Sen's Road of the Boreal Valley

Do we have a release date yet for Ringed City?

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>>170945589
I love this site, it can make some names that are just word vomit.
>The Fishing Stonefang Cathedral
>Consumed King's Eleum Loyce
>The Upper Tower of Defilement
>The Anor Memories Dungeon
>Dark Catacombs of Yorshka

Then you can get some that sound pretty good:
>The Lake of Mensis
>Grand Forest of Old
>The Drangleic Tower Of Flame
>Cainhurst Cemetery
>The Nightmare Palace

Thought "The Rest of the First Flame" will always be my favorite.

If I had any talent, I would do what this guy did and draw some of that stuff.

>>170945589
>Ash Cemetery of Ash
Well that's a bit redundant.

>>170946610
28th

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>>170945589
> Dragon's Chasm

>>170943576
I will see when this shit gets done downloading.

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>>170945589

>>170945589
>Dungeon of the Abyss.
Sounds like a final level.

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>>170945589

>Memories of the Abyss

Sounds like a good place for LORE

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>>170946657
>the lake of mensis
>sounds pretty good
do you even know what mensis IS anon

>>170945589
>Firelink Earthen Shulva, Peak


Full of shulva platforms, high damaging pyromancers(with shulva poise), chain axe dragons and a booming firelink shrine theme in the background.

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>>170945589
This is either the best or lamest location in all of Soulsborne.

>>170938429
>pain of ages
Remind me where this joke comes from again?

>>170945589
>Boletarian Dream
>Aldia's Cemetery
>Nightmare of Defilement
>Sinner's Nexus
>Archdragon Frontier
Not bad
>The Fishing Memory of Fallen Giants
.......

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>>170946804

>Releases the same damn day as the Destiny update
>AGAIN

Thanks.

>>170947179
is this a JoJo reference?

>>170947246
Do you have full size?

>>170945589
>Dragon Yharnam of the First Flame

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I'm trying to decide between a sorcery or a faith build. Does the DLC offer anything good for these?

So do people like the crazy speed Ds3 has? Serious question.

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>>170946440
>Farron Greatsword
>Legion stance
R1 is Identical to the large leaping combo used by the legion in embered form. Unparryable and comes with a fire buff. R2 is parry.

>>170947456
>crazy speed
>i never played bloodborne

>>170946440
What the Great Mace really needs is to not have such high requirements and weight for how abysmally mediocre it's damage is (or a damage buff to make them worth it). Though having a buffed Blessed weapon as it's WA is something I would totally agree with once the aforementioned issue was fixed, as long as Blessed Weapon itself was also buffed similarly. Too bad it will never happen.

>>170947351

I think that is full size even though it says resize.

Why would you need a resolution larger than that anyways it's already bigger than most monitors.

>>170947635
I did play Bloodborne. It's about this fast, but is also built around said speed, so it's fine.

Anyone on ps4 up for helping a nigga transfer some rings?

>>170946001
>The Undead Outskirts of the First Flame
A ruined settlement outside of the First Flame, filled with Undead who feared Fire and the future so they chose to stay.

>>170946518
>Sen's Wood
A forested garden filled with traps, but making use of nature instead of machines.

>>170947094
>Memories of the Abyss
Memory of what was left of Manus, heavily broken and fractured.

>>170947230
>Aldia's Cemetery
The dumping ground of Aldia's earlier, and crudest, experiments.

>>170947820

How can you say BB is built around the speed it has and DS3 isn't.

DS3 has some of the fastest enemies in the series after BB.

>>170947930
>Sen's Wood
>A forested garden filled with traps, but making use of nature instead of machines.

>Vietnam: First Flame Edition

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>>170947820
The good hunter is much faster than the ashen one, and even though his dashes have less iframes they are faster and chain into themselves much more instantly. The weapons are also faster, even the ultra equivalents, and none of the enemies in ds3, not even Nameless King, are as aggressive as Gascoigne let alone some of the more intense bosses like Ludwig.

>>170948170
>thou aren't I starts playing

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>>170945589
Well, fuck you too.

>>170948056
BB has mechanics that work with it's speed. It's based entirely around speed and aggression, rewards you for zipping around like a madman, and punishes passivity.
DS does none of this. It's got the same old DS mechanics, but BB levels of speed. It doesn't work at all.

Theres a twink hacker been sitting in my world for the last half an hour while I hide in the dancers room. I don't mind since i'm just eating dinner and watching movies, doin laundry etc, but I wonder when he's gonna give up.

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>not a single katana has a weapon art that involves dashing and slashing followed by sheathing dramatically

One job.

>Quelaag's Harvest Things
I...what?
>New Londo Settlement
Sounds like what New Londo would have been called prior to the flooding.
>Undead Peak of Ash
Where the ashen ones go to train to their peak level
>Undead Chaos
Dark Souls world in a nutshell
>New Londo Keep Dungeon
This one sounds cool
>The Undead Quelaag's Aerie
Revenge of Quelaag

>>170937829
if you're still here can you post your build?

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>>170948725
>people thought the generic katana unsheath weapon art that ended up being on all but one katanas was better than this
lamo

>>170948974
B-but you can parry out of it! That makes it better! Right? Right!?

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>>170949201
>FOUR (4) parry frames
l a m o

>>170944398
please respond

how many people stay at SL100?

>>170945589
>Farron Cathedral
Literally the cathedral of the deep?
>Smouldering Irithyll Wood
The remnants of the forest around Irithyll after it was burnt to the ground?
>Profaned Abyss
The actual city of Irithyll after the roof of the cave that the Profaned Capital is in collapsed?
>The Things
Oh.

>>170949331
>pick regular mob
>give it a name
>put it in a room with a fog wall

Chalice dungeons everyone.

>>170949710
No one said they were fun.

>>170945589
>the Lecture Clinic of Vammar

Oh boy. I guess it's like a medical university of giants where everything is fuckhuge and really primitive like Flintstones tech but it still kinda works and the challenge of the area is to overcome your anti-giant racism and realize that there are smart and educated giants too in addition to the ones who want to smash everything with a club.

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was this the Irithyll of das2?

>>170941920
rising storm 2 beta wave 7 starts

>>170950375
Clearly they needed to start somewhere.

>>170946657
I love those deaigns by the way.
Why doesn't this guy work for Fromsoft already?

Woah we ded

>>170942312
>Do all clerics hail from there?
Way of White is a set of faith that in the time of Dark Souls 1 deifies Gwyn and Allfather Lloyd. The Way of White considers Gwyn sacred and Lordran is the land of the ancient Lords and also with the Undead curse, the clerics of Way of White are sent to Lordran on a mission to seek Kindling.

But no, in the Dark Souls world not EVERY cleric belongs to Way of White. In Dark Souls 2 which took place in a different land, the Clerics of Lindelt are distinctly different from the Way of White organization.

But in DS3 the Herald and Cleric start with some distinctly Way of White stuff. Although the headquarters of Wow is now in Carim. It's reasonable that Cathedral of the Deep is a Church of Thorolund that rell to the deep.

>>170950375
>was this the Irithyll of das2?

care to elaborate?

Give me a FUN DaS3 build that isn't quality, something that revolves around niche weapons or magics. Also fuck this rebirth limit, I really want to do TRC on this char but I don't know if it'll be any fun on NG+++ at SL125

>>170951938
Morne's greathammer with heavy resistances/ steel protection ring for heavy emphasis on coming out on top in trades.

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>>170941093

>>170941339
Greirat is a top tier bro as well.

>>170937376
Which dark souls have the worst npc invasions mechanics wise?

I personally don't mind ds3 npcs they generally follow the same rules that players are bound to.

Ds2 iirc has the worst npcs. Ds2 npcs have extreme amounts of health and absorption compared to players and they seem to cheat with their hit and hurt boxes

>>170941093
Is it just me or does that cat come off as very flirty ?

If ashen one gave Friede a good dicking, would she have dropped her edgy "let the world rot" routine?

>>170942007

I guess I'll avoid any Souls discussion from the 15th, then.

>>170952990
No, because sex always causes more problems than it solves. Just ask your parents, anon.

>>170952825
DS1 imo had the worst NPC invaders.
When they were spawning in, you could just preemptively position yourself behind them and backstab them with ease.

>>170952963
She's playful at the very least, but she's a cat, so she's either amused by people, or utterly disinterested in them.

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>>170937376
Can someone EXPLAIN to me like I'm a retard how exactly to trigger Patches in the Cathedral of the Deep?

This is maybe my 4th or 5th character and I've never triggered him tricking me on the bridge dressed in onion armor.

>>170941760

That's not Gertrude

She's dead anyway in the cell

>>170952825
They can also cancel out of their attack animations. So it's possible for them to start a jumping attack, and in the middle of the animation, roll out.

>>170952825
>>170953229
I just had a very long afternoon getting pissed at the stupidest boss I've ever seen in soulsborne. Gank Squad is the stupidest shit.

>>170951938
Gwyndolin cosplay. It's kinda difficult to find armor that fits it though.

>>170953196
You shouldn't light the Rosaria's chamber bonfire and you should open the big double doors in the upper floor. Opening those doors makes Patches spawn actually.

>>170947145

>glowing lights in the distance
>BbbZERRRRRRRRRRRRRR

How early could I potential go to Eleum Loyce and get the Bone Fist?

>>170953656
I think you have to talk to siegward first

>>170953196
Help out seig with the fire demon in the settlement, then once you get to the cathedral, don't go up on the rafters to rosaria and instead open the big double doors then he'll spawn on the landing to the right of the doors (when facing inside the cathedral).

>>170954836
Either beat this game's Big Four or get 1 million Soul Memory. The entrance to Eleum Loyce is right at the Shrine of Winter.

FC when and where

>>170942007
Shit, I just hope he actually does spoil everything, I need my fix

>>170942007
I just want to know ALL the weapons/armor/spells in the DLC. As long as he tells me that, I'll be okay.

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I did it. I finally beat the Fume Knigger. I used all but one of my Effigies. I haven't even touched the Shaded Woods so I can get to Ornifex. I'm glad that battle is behind me.

>silver knight weapons never
How did they fuck up so hard

>>170956089
Trying to think about it, but is there any other weapon you see enemies using that you can't acquire? I can only think of Silver Knights and those four armed demons in Smoldering Lake.

>>170955579
Of what? Why do fags like you want to get spoiled so much?
This is so fucking stupid.

>>170956273
you can get the lake weapons, it's the great machete and it drops from the big guys in the settlement for no fucking reason
We can't get dragonslayer ARMOR's armor, the big pots the settlement guys use, the lothric clerics dagger/sword, the thin version of the lothric k***ht greatswords impaled everywhere in high wall and kiln, and maybe a couple I'm missing

>>170956867
Not getting Dragonslayer's Armour is dogshit and I will always be salty about that.

>>170957008
>>170956867
>one less shitty tanky armor that people mistakenly use because they think armor actually matters in DaS3
Good.

>>170957194
>armor doesn't matter in ds3
Thanks for bringing up another pile of tucked away hatred you ghru

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>>170957257
Any time.

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>>170953191
>>170952963
>>170941093

talking animals are a common vector of the gods, especially when communicating with mortals.

chances are sweet sexy cat was a literal god (not a gwyn god, a god god) who wanted to make sure things were going smoothly.
her literal immortality, knowledge of basically everything, the fact that she LIKES humanity as opposed to hating it, and what she says once you've completed the game, I'd say sweet sexy cat was meant to be deific.

>It seems that we must now part.
>Why now? I don't see how it should matter.
>Just because, because I'm a cat. Hee hee…

gods used animals to fuck people, she was totally DTF

>>170956273

most of them, actually

for that matter, I can't even think of more than like one enemy that drops their weapon.

SKS is hands down one of the best looking weapons in DaS1. It's such a shame that SK's are in 3 but you can't get either the Sword or Spear.

>>170957635
Most do, it's just that we have a few infamous examples like those, ruin sentinel hammer in 2, 4kings sword.

>>170957841

I was talking about dark souls 3, not 1 and 2. there's like, the saw men in the settlement and that's all I know.

>>170957741
I loved silver knight spear

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>invading Catacombs at SL45
>+5 Sellsword Twinblades
>30 Dex
>offhand +5 Crossbow
>killing people in like 4 hits and regularly winning 2v1s and even 3v1s
Since when are these things so powerful? It almost feels like twinking to use this shit.

>>170956273
Serpentman Chain axes.

>>170957994
Enemies that drop their weapons:

>hollows with normal weapons
>lothric knights
>evangelists and settlement hollows
>black knights
>darkwraiths
>ghrus
>corvians
>grave wardens
>cathedral knights
>thralls
>all different types of carthus skellies

I didn't even reach half of the game.

What's the optimal level to invade in the CotD?

>>170958535
30-40.

>>170958598
Maximum upgrade?

What will happen after the Ashen One completes TRC, receives the Dark Soul of Man, and returns it to the painter in Ariandel?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12526131

>>170958661
Like +4, maybe.

>>170958747

>getting the complete dark soul

hoho, fucking faggot retard piece of shit, you really think it'll be that easy?

no, dipshit, we're just getting a single piece of humanity.

description:

>This black sprite is called humanity, but little is known about its true nature. If the soul is the source of all life, then what distinguishes the humanity we hold within ourselves?

>Permanently gain the strength of flame and increase max HP, transpose to extract its true strength, or maybe...

you can transpose it into the pyromancy "the dark within", which greatly increases attack but gradually lose a large amount of hp, or into a shitty split damage sword that has D faith scaling.

giving it to the painter girl causes her to start painting and gives you the miracle "divine power within" that increases your attack, defense, and gradually regens your HP.

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Quick, what armor and swords should I use on a Geralt cosplay build? This is important.

I'm getting the feeling that a plot point of the TRC is that mankind was originally nothing more than slaves to gwyn and his royalty.

I get the feeling that there was a slave revolt lead by people like havel and priscilla that was instigated by the free will granting properties of the dark soul.

>>170958367
>Since when are these things so powerful?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pONPAxIOWQ

The tree thing from the high wall is optional, right? I don't really want to forge boss weapons. Will I be missing any other thing by not killing it?

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Does anyone know if this is a new Miracle or a bow's WA?

Also, is there anymore info on the new DLC other than what the Fextralife wiki has?

>>170960225
>FUCK that does a lot of damage
>surprised a big fucking axe took out 70% of his hp when he just insta-killed some guy with two curved swords

>>170960305
Have you read the OP?

>>170960264
You mean the Curserotted Greatwood in Undead Settlement? Yeah, he's optional.

You do miss on some pretty cool Boss weapons and rings though. He's not a hard fight and I always thought he was kind of fun. If you don't want to fit him now, I highly suggest going back and fighting him later.

>>170959515
dragon bone smasher

>>170960484
Yeah, I was just wondering if any other anons had any other info.

>>170960264
There's no reason not to lol.

>The art of war has been a constant since ages past, and those who would follow in Havel's footsteps are no fewer now than in his own day.

Jesus christ. Thousands of years after the events of DaS1 and even more time since Gwyn's time and Havel's fanclub is still intact. What a man.

>>170947425
AoA gives you Snap Freeze and Frozen Weapon for sorcery - snap freeze is pretty good. For faith, all you get is Way of White Circlet, which would be good if it didn't break if it touches literally any terrain. For weapons, Friede's Scythe scales well with int, and the Rose of Ariandel is a whip that casts miracles.

Not sure what all is going to come with Ringed City, but the Aquamarine dagger scales with Int and has a neat magical sword WA.

Of the 2, Sorcery is more viable overall.

>>170961478
Friede's Scythe only has Int scaling on its stance R2. It does physical damage otherwise, so it's a Dex weapon really.

>>170961440
If only his gear wasn't shit in 3.

>>170961594
The int scaling also affects the stance R1. Basically every attack involving the OH scythe uses the magic portion of the weapon's damage stat.

>>170961594
>>170961697
Good point. While we're at it, it's fair to assume the Aquamarine dagger is similar (only gains int scaling when using it's magic blade WA).

For a sorcerer, you really want either a crystal weapon, or a raw weapon for buffing.

>>170959515

>Claymore
>Some other silvery greatsword like Drakeblood or Greatsword of Judgement
>pick whatever fits your favorite iteration for armor

Anyone on PS4 want to help me with the Dancer? Password of dsg.

>>170962058
Be right there, just gotta switch characters.

>>170947425
AoA has
For faith:
Way of White Corona, a really shitty and worthless miracle that was obviously unfinished
Earthseeker, a str/fth hybrid greataxe with the standard moveset and a firestorm-style AoE WA.
and the Rose of Ariandel, a str/fth whip with the club moveset that can cast miracles with its R2. Its spell buff scaling is shit but has a high base so good for lower-fth builds.

For int:
Snap Freeze, a massive linear status cloud that rapidly applies frostbite
Frozen Weapon, a shitty and worthless buff that adds a trivial amount of frost buildup to a weapon.
Friede's Scythe a hybrid dex/int scythe with a unique 2H moveset and a WA stance that causes it to become a paired weapon with two scythes and hyperarmour (also doesn't consume FP). Unfortunately, the int scaling only applies to the offhand scythe that's only active during the WA stance, so it's more like a dex weapon with a little int on the side.

>>170962058
>>170962114
OK, sign down.

>>170962114
Thank you kindly friend.

>>170962563
No worries!

>>170947425
No, no it does not

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In just two weeks the first /dsg/ thread tourney is starting. On March 25th, 2pm PST a PC tournament will be held prior the release of The Ringed City DLC.
Participants will be matched up with others who sign-up and fight for the claim to be /dsg/'s champion. The winner and runner-ups will receive prizes including Steam games and being better than everyone else who fought.

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Sign-ups close on 22nd of March, 2pm PST with brackets announced shortly after.

For the sake of organization either your Steam ID or a Discord ID will be needed to sign-up. If using only one, Steam IDs will be organized via that messages there and Discord users can join the accompanying server in the link above to ensure we don't have last minute drop-outs with no explanation.

RULES:
-Maximum Soul Level of 125 allowed. Someone with CE open will be monitoring all players to make sure this rule and others aren't broken.
-The starting location will be High Wall, followed by Farron Keep bridge and ending at the Darkmoon Tomb.
-Fights are best of 3
-Each fight is 2 minutes long, the one with the most % health left at the end will win if both are alive.
-Gargoyle Flame Spear, Washing Pole, Throwing Knives, Anri's Straight Sword, Ethereal Oak Shield, Ancient Dragon Greatshield, and Fire Surge are banned.
-Only two Ashen Estus sips per fight, any more and your win will not count, initiating a rematch. Do this twice and you are disqualified
-All Regen items and spells are banned to disencentize passive shittery. This includes Sun Princess Ring, Blessed Weapon, Spells like Bountiful Sunlight, the weapons/shields mentioned above with innate regen and anything infused with Blessed.
-Normal FC rules still apply such as no healing items. Fight rotation will be determined once brackets are set.

Discord link: https://discord.gg/5PBsgsV

>>170962236
Adding onto this, the Ethereal Oak Shield has good synergy with Faith builds, since it's a 100% block shield with passive HP regen.

>>170963332
It has synergy with EVERY build, because nobody uses HP regen better than anybody else and most of the passive regen available to the player comes from free sources

>>170963464
But Faith builds can use HP regen spells as well as Blessed Weapon. Slap that on Anri's Straight Sword, which can be buffed and also has passive regen, and you're basically regrowing limbs.

What's the best Katana to use in Dark Souls 1 and 3? Watching Samurai Jack has made me get into the Samurai mood.

>>170964196
>1
Gucci

>3
2kat

>>170963567
>making a build that can only use one weapon

>>170964454
When did I say you can only use one weapon? You still have stupid amounts of regen even without Anri's Sword.

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Doing a FTH/DEX build in DS3.

So far, it's going well. Got a scimitar and a dagger at +1, and got myself Heal Aid to help heal myself without wasting my estus.

I'm in like the very VERY early stages of the game, and it's been a fucking while since I played.

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Why does shit like this exist?

>Here's a staff that casts spells, but those spells are based on your Faith!
>Here's a spear that also acts like a catalyst, and also scales by your Faith!
>Here's a chime that scales with Int and Faith, but sucks at casting Dark miracles!
>Here's a talisman that also scales with Int and Faith, but is specifically good for casting Dark miracles!
>Here's a staff that casts sorceries, but those sorceries are based on how high your Luck is!
>Here's a sword that can also cast sorceries, but for some fucking retarded reason it also requires you to have 12 Faith, which does absolutely nothing!
>Oh and by the way, you still need to level the stat that it doesn't scale with if you want access to those spells at all!

Worst case, the only shit that worked like this in DaS1 were Velka's things, and in DaS2 everything was consistent due to elemental scaling.

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>>170964704
Nobody expects SLS trades from a sorcerer.

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>duelfags
the host disconnected a few seconds later

>>170940374
Given how the Bamco rep was swinging wildly (you can see the Harald Knight taking damage just as he lands), I'm betting that there's counter damage factored into that somewhere.

>start new game
>roll through dancer and gundyrs at sl10 for the twinkling chain
>level up to 50 later and go fight aldrich
>get fucking destroyed over and over again
I don't get it, why does everyone say gundyr and nameless king are the hardest bosses when aldrich exists. nameless needs good timing and positioning, sure, but I swear there are situations fighting Aldrich where it's literally impossible to avoid damage. what the fuck are you supposed to do when there's homing magic arrows on your ass, Aldrich starts spraying deep orbs out of his staff, and then when you get close to actually hurt him he teleports away.

>>170964704

I wish there was more to pick and choose between when it comes to catalysts. And chimes/talismans. More interesting weapon arts would certainly be nice, but that applies to basically everything.

>>170966224

I'll have to try that, I always fight him at the appropriate level and usually crush him.

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>>170945589
>The Old Iosefka's Clinic
Sounds like it'd be perfect as a DLC location in Bloodborne 2, if they ever made it.
>Untended Shrine
Could be something demon related or something.
>Central Smoldering Throne
Sounds like a great area for a fire boss.
Or a Lord of Cinder bossfight.
>Anor Yharnam
OK, now this is just a bit silly.
But sounds awesome at the same time.
>Catacombs of the First Flame
SKELETON GWYN
>Irithyll Frontier
Snowy forests everywhere.
Basically a knock-off of the AoA DLC.

>>170947179
Is that a motherfucking JoJo reference?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

>>170950223
das a big boi

>>170947179
>The World
>Literally go to the center of the world to fight the core of the world itself.
>After killing the core, you get a secret ending showing the entire world exploding.

>Or maybe you get to fight the Furtive Pygmy.

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>>170945589
brevity is the soul of wit after all

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>>170967786
I concur.

>>170966972
>Literally entering The World
>As in sexually penetrating it.

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Why was Jon Snow in Dark Souls?

>>170967990
He was a bastard.
He knew nothing about what world he was transported to.

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>>170967895
It ain't gonna beat itself.

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>>170968282
I don't wanna know what "things" these dragons have.

>>170960029

From the DS1 intro, you're led to believe that man was pretty much cavemen dwellers due to the surface being too damn dangerous.

When they found the Dark Soul, after the Gods, Witches and Dead killed off the dragons with their Lord Souls, the Gods seem to have realized it was a threat to them, so they...kinda had this odd relationship where the Gods did help man, and man in return helped them.

The relationship seems to have been fairly respectable for both sides.

>>170964704

dark soul gonna make a catalyst that can cast everything, scales from luck

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>>170968458
Do you think it would fit?

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>>170968803
Man, these names are pretty original huh?

Someone give me a GSOJ build pls

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>>170968879
When will they learn?

How do I use the rapier stance attacks effectively? They're kind of tricky to land somehow.

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>>170969092
Now we know what Master Willem called his chair.

God I love messing with stupid shit like this.

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Hard drive died and lost save files. Including all the slabs I was hording for the DLC. What's the fastest cheesiest quality build I can do to get to NG++?

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there's like a thousand different directions to go at the start of Dark Souls 2
this better be the best choice!

>>170959349
>permanent crown- I mean, ember mode
>or a better power within
>or a split damage faith weapon
>or a blessed weapon that goes on your face

This sounds like the fakest shit ever, but I still want it.

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>>170969289
It's dumb but it's a fun dumb.

>decide to co-op stomp the game with a friend
>kick the shit out of the highwall together, move on to settlement, no trouble, even when we got invaded while fighting Hod the God
>I advance for a while as buddy goes to work
>decide to pick up where we left off, I'm level 34, he's level 20
>even with the password system, he can't see my signs and I can't see his
I thought I'd get scaled down? Seems like something's gone fucky.

>>170969930
Are you both embered

>>170969427
lol, you're going to end into a deadend, faggot

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>>170969785
Yeah.
Then you get shit like this.

>>170970037
Yep.

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>>170970126
A Byrgen is a byrgen even in a dream.

>>170964704

>implying Golden Ritual Spear is bad
>implying Archdeacon's Staff is bad
>implying Crystal Chime is bad
>implying Man-Grub Staff is bad

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>>170970405
Imagine if this was an actual boss.
A frost-based version of Quelaag, who's also a dragon.

>>170964704
Most of those exist to validate really, really specific builds that wouldn't work otherwise.

>archdeacon's great staff technically has the absolute best spellbuff scaling in the game. court sorcerer's staff gets a massive scaling spike from 50 to 60, but archdeacon's is stronger before that point and eventually outperforms it again at around 80 to 90. archdeacon's at 99fth casts the strongest sorceries in the game
>golden ritual spear has the lowest str/dex requirements of all weapon catalysts, can cast strong magic shield on your greatshield and poke from behind it without needing to switch weapons, and boosts its own attack power and spell power with its weapon art
>crystal chime gives dual int and fth scaling to magic sorceries and lightning miracles, you dork. it's actually really fucking good, only loses 20% power compared to court sorcerer's at 60int or yorshka's at 60fth. this includes dark spells, both sorcery and miracle; it isn't actually bad at casting dark spells, it's just that the other catalysts you could be using with the exact same stat spread are so much better you might as well not
>the talisman is for casting dark miracles, clearly. side note, I hope you weren't talking about caitha's chime for the above one, because caitha's is actually better at dark miracles than the talisman is.
>man-grub staff is shit, I'll give you that. slightly stronger at 40lck than heretic's staff is at 40int, but that's it. note that all the good sorceries don't actually have all that high int requirements, so it isn't as big a deal as you'd think it'd be.
>try using that sword in your left hand sometime. it frees up the need to attune flashsword, which is pretty nice.
>cleric's candlestick scales with int up to 60, what the hell are you smoking?

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>>170970710
>yfw Shulva is on top of a raising platform

wheres the ce tables now? the topics gone

okay idk what the fuck I did but I can't find any bows and arrows anywhere and i want the drake sword. Where can I get some?

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>>170971105
Maybe, just maybe, this is where Ocelotte was hiding all along

>>170970281
Is he at Road of Sacrifices

You can't summon on Road of Sacrifices

>>170971436
Nope, undead settlement. He had to quit after the greatwood, and hadn't yet gone through the tower with the outrider knight. I know we can't summon in there, but the cliff underside bonfire should be fine.

>>170971002

So the best way to sorcerer is either 60 int Court Sorcerer or get yourself an Archdeacon's staff and level your faith?

Actually, that seems way better because then you can also pyro.

>>170971404
Alternatively, you could run up on top of the bridge, hide behind the wall thing behind the stairs, wait for the hellkite drake to jump down, then time it so you start running past him as soon as he starts jumping down so you can attack his tail until it falls off.

>>170971513
>He had to quit after the greatwood
Can't summon with dead bosses, moron.

>>170971513
>he had to quit after the greatwood
Did HE kill the Greatwood, because that'd stop summoning signs

>>170971585
>then time it so you start running past him as soon as he starts jumping down so you can attack his tail until it falls off.
how many times would that take though?

>>170971536
Yes and no. If you're only going minimum Int requirements for sorceries, archdeacon's is better. If you're going 40int/40fth for pyromancy, crystal chime is better. Court sorcerer's staff at 60int does just under 5% more damage than archdeacon's at 60fth, but archdeacon's is stronger before that point.

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>>170971431
Welcome to Burg, home of the ByrgenBurg.

>>170971673
You can get it in three hits two-handed if you use the claymore on the same bridge.

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I am upset

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>>170971765
Look's like you've been sent to the Shadow Realm.

...Or the DS equivalent of it.

>>170971585
>>170971587
. . . well fug. I did not know that, explains a lot.

>>170971819
that sounds really tricky since the dragon moves around a lot. i'll give it a shot

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Is this true, regarding Quelaag's Sister?

>>170971970
On that note, I hope you know the drake sword is actually a piece of shit and that claymore is way the hell better.

>>170971892
hit box porn

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>>170971927
Women amirite?

>>170972058
how so?

>>170971002
>so you need 90 fai on top of spell reqs
>is also weak as fuck
>dark is so shit on its own you have to use the best or bust
I don't know why he brought up sunless talisman. It's weird to be the one for dark, but functionally it's fine

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>>170972138
This is basically what fishing is.

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>>170972321
What a dumb name, I seriously hope nobody thinks these could be real areas.

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>>170972160
... You poor, poor bastard. Alright, here we go.

>drake sword does not scale with your stats. at all. it gets literally zero damage no matter how much you put into strength, dexterity, or whatever
>drake sword requires an extremely rare upgrade material and a whopping 10,000 souls per upgrade, only to cap out at an extremely pitiful 300 attack rating
>drake sword is short and slow compared to other longswords, on top of being weaker (the basic longsword can reach 400 AR thanks to stat scaling)
>meanwhile, the claymore has the exact same strength and dex requirements, exact same weight, but has longer range, deals more damage thanks to attack multipliers, scales with your stats, and can stunlock nearly everything in the game

>>170972287
>so you need 90 fai
Nope, just has highly specific build parameters. Alternative builds don't need to do more damage just to be viable you qualityfag, it's okay to trade a little damage for extra options in other areas. For 60fth, you only lose 5% damage compared to court sorcerer's but get all miracles and full damage on them. It's a specific build that gives up more than the average caster to do things pyromancers can't.

>weak as fuck
Actually, it's better at both sorceries and miracles than pyromancers are, even when the pyro uses a crystal chime.

>dark is so shit on its own you have to use the best or bust
That's absolutely false. Dark is so shit that even when you're using the best it's still busted. Hopefully the DLC buffs it enough to be worth using.

>>170970126
this is beginning to sound dangerously swedish

>>170972943
Drakesword is pretty good up to gargoyles. Maybe up to finding the large ember

>>170971002
>>try using that sword in your left hand sometime. it frees up the need to attune flashsword, which is pretty nice.
Unfortunately you still need to increase your faith on a sorcery build, which is pretty bad unless you specifically want to be a hybrid.

BRING BACK BLUE FLAME, MAKE SWORDCERIES GREAT AGAIN

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>>170973327
Gargoyles maybe, but only because they give you enough souls to buy enough titanite shards to upgrade a claymore to +5. I wouldn't say to large ember though, because your weapons should be +5 by that point.

>>170973406
>he doesn't start his pyromancers as sorcerers
Have you never used Immolation Tinder? It's like sex on a stick.

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Fucking hell, From has some sort of obsession with bosses that spontaneously get all their health back. Why the fuck do I keep have to fighting people that you kill, then are like "HAHA SURPRISE I SHOVED A THUMB UP MY ASS AND REGENERATED ALL MY HEALTH LOL AREN'T YOU TOTALLY IN AWE OF MY AWESOME ABILITY".

It just gets so fucking old that I have to keep killing something effectively pretending to be a boss before some lame animation happens and I get to fight the real boss.

>>170973480
>he doesn't start his pyromancers as sorcerers
I meant "start his sorcerers as pyromancers". As in, the class.

Sorry, it's tired and I'm late now. Goodnight, /dsg/.

>>170973572
>leveling faith
>on a sorcerer build
lmao

>>170973631
Pyromancer starts with 14 faith. That's why you start as pyromancer on a sorcery build, so you can use Immolation Tinder.

What character will you guys be taking into the dlc? I just made a sorcerer hoping to use it, but I am doing so much fucking damage at 60 int I feel like it might be too easy.

>>170973680
Nigga I've got a court sorcerer staff in one hand and crow quills in the other. I don't need no immolation tinder.

>>170973694
See above. SL90 spellsword at the end of NG, ready to do the DLC and hop into NG+ immediately.

>>170973680
>wasting stats on one weapon
>using anything larger than a crystal infused rapier at base str and dex
wew lad

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>>170973694

>>170973894
is having no fucking endurance okay?

>>170973815
>wasting stats
I'm sorry, I didn't think not putting a single point into faith counted as wasting stats. By the way, how's that 12 luck working out for you?

>using the shittiest rapier in the game when you could be using the best rapier in the game
>and a giant burning stick that casts spells and fire
And a jolly good wew lad right back at you.

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>>170973894
>Mangrub Staff
>not Mendicant Staff

>>170973960
It's a rapier, its attacks cost less stamina than rolling.

>>170974086
Ooh, good point.

>>170974010
>single point
>5 levels
>single point

I dont think you understand math friend

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Does anybody want to help me scum some shit on PC? Just trying to get duplicates of various +0 weapons so that I can upgrade them for personal use and still have the +0's for twinking and/or creating new characters. You'll get to keep copies of that stuff if you back up your save after you get them.

Please place red sign at High Wall with pass dsg if interested.

>>170971984
Yeah, she gets a little life back in her.

>>170974260
>for twinking and/or
You can't twink on the same character if you upgrade their weapons

>>170974246
Actually, the difference between a sorcerer with base faith and a pyromancer with base faith is only two levels. Faith is a way more valuable stat to have than luck, though.

>>170974378
Which is why I'm getting duplicates of them at +0. Then I can upgrade the ones I use on that character, and still have a +0 to scum later.

>>170970684
>implying that this is implicit rather than explicit
>implying that sorcery isn't trash

>>170974569
Not even him, but the Crystal Chime is fantastic. The first two are okay but not great, you need a specific build to use them though. Man-grub has no reason to exist.

>>170974397
pyro also has more useless vit

>Rosaria refuses to turn you into a grub

what a casual baby game

>>170974743
Uh huh. Two things for you to consider, here:

1) That still isn't a five level difference

2) I'm looking at both in the build calculator and they're under SL120 anyways

>>170974861
there certainly isn't 1 or 2 either

>>170974945
I never said it was a one level difference, I said pyromancer didn't have to invest a single point into faith because it already started with more than 12. I did forget about the one extra vit, but it really isn't as useless as you'd think when you have weapons that actually deal damage instead of just using the weakest rapier in the game because you mistook restrictions for efficiency.

>>170969292
prob sharp twinblades until you have enough stats to refine it
switch to Grave Warden Twinblades later on