/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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>>170998506
First for dragon things.

>>170998000
I'm sort of surprised that you can still find players in DaS2, I guess RtD is still active.

>>170998148
>>170998289
Remember that item next to that fire-breathing statue in the very beginning of the level? And remember when you turned off all the fire-breathing statues in the area at the top of Eygil's Idol?

Try going back and exploring the area near the Last Giant after grabbing that item.

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First for qtest Soulstuber

>>170998485
Well. Yes. Community engagement is what keeps games alive once the dev content inevitably dries up.
This either manifests itself in the form of multiplayer or modding content.

Since modding is basically out of the question beyond texture swaps with this being a hardcoded nip game made for consoles, what other alternative would you suggest?

>>170998393
souls games are staples of vidya culture. So I'm going through them. Ds1 is a master piece but I don't feel like replaying anytime soon unless I have to. Based on your reply I'll just do ds2

>game with the worst selection of bosses introduces a mechanic that lets you rematch them as many times as you want
>game with the best selection of bosses removes this mechanic
fuck Miyazaki

>>170999191
>worst game has all the fun weapons

kill me right now. Mizazaki just hates fun

>>170999191
I don't know why people hated bonfire ascetics so much
I liked the idea of fighting against my favorite boss again without the need to go through the whole game again

Where's a shop I can buy resins at in dark souls 2

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>>170998681
>liking Plagiarizing Nintendo Fanboy

>>170999140
That sounds like the one place I've been trying to figure out how to get to since I started playing this game

>>170998148
in that area you can summon people who don't own the DLC
>>170998289
SotFS?
you can find the key in the pit with the fire lizards in the forest of fallen giants

>>170999279
Literally nobody hated ascetics. They were removed because Miyazaki is biased against 'gamey' mechanics like that in his RPGs. He only included respeccing begrudgingly because BAMCO made an issue of that feature reappearing.

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>>170999327
He's hot tho

>>170999307
all over the place i think
>Felkin sells Dark Resin
>Vengarl sells Lightning Resin
>Gilligan sells Magic Resin and Bleed i think
>Magerold sells Fire
>Gavlan sells poison

>>170999543
eh. He's a 7/10 at most.

>>170998904
>Community engagement is what keeps games alive

For PvPfags.

Since taking the time to read the things you're responding to is apparently beneath you I'll reiterate that I'm a PvEfag. I play these games a million times in a million ways and fighting other people is ancillary to me.

>>170999649
7's a lot when the average anon is a 3 at best

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>>170999327
>that webm
I fucking hate those rafters so much

>>170999679
Vaati wouldn't stand out in a crowd, that's all you have to know.

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Let's be serious here.

The only worthwhile online mechanics are messages and Co-op. Everything else is just extra fluff used to extend your playtime.

>>170999649
Each to their own, but 7? He has aryan god genes, is Aussie af, and is one of relative few attractive people into vidya, let alone lore and shit.

>>170999656
>is ancillary

*isn't ancillary

>>170999409
you need the iron key to enter that room
it's located in the first room of iron keep, in front of the fire breathing bull statue
after you turn off the fire right before the old iron king boss battle you can grab the key safely

alternatively you can go to forest of fallen giants and drop into the pit if you're wearing the silvercat ring or the flying feline boots

>>170999889
>He has aryan god genes

He's an Australian with dark hair.

The Aryans were light-haired sandniggers.

>>170999874
Bosses are fluff that extends your playtime
Enemies are fluff that extends your playtime
Areas are fluff that extends your playtime
Loot is fluff that extends your playtime
Weapons, spells, combat mechanics, content are all just fluff that extends your playtime.

Did it ever cross your mind that the player goes into a game looking for playtime?

>>170999874
>he doesn't enjoy invading and fucking over casuals just trying to get through the game
If you're not being an asshole to other people over the internet at every opportunity, then you don't belong on 4chan.

>>170999889
get the fuck out of here, Vaati. Hope you get stung by a poisonous spider, you stupid cunt

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>>171000028
Looks like a blondie to me, at least in his vids. I don't think anyone using the word "aryan" is referring to the original meaning. Makes you wonder wtf Addie was on when he applied the term to nordic folk.

>>171000141
Spoidahs boite, not sting, and they're venomous, not poisonous ya shitcunt

>>170999656
Then what are you complaining about? If you can get unlimited enjoyment from playing the same game over and over again then good for you but you're in the minority.
Nobody's forcing you to deal with pvpfags but it doesn't change the fact that they're going to be the main thing keeping people playing after the last DLC drops.

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>>170998681

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This is the first build in which I've seen more than 1 cheater. I don't get what's so fun about it tho, at least in PVP.

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>>171000802
heh....
git gud, kid....
>points down
nothin personelle...

>>171000707
pls explain. It's 2 am and I have the sleepy dumbs

>>171000802
machine gun follower javelin?

Which chime or talisman is best for throwing Lightning spears in DS3?

>>171001054
Canvas or Sunlight talisman for the weapon art. Lets you cast without being interrupted. Canvas is stronger, but Sunlight has slightly stronger anti-stagger

why do clerics throw lightening spears?
wtf?

>>170999992
these enimease are retarded

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>>171000962
I should make a coldsteel build, but it wouldn't work at all with the face.
>>171001018
Yup, didn't know that existed.

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I want to go full Chaos in Dark Souls. What are the closest armors to this in the series?

>>171001259

When TRC comes out, you should make "Lord Trump" and use the Wall Shields. I'm sure you won't be the only one.

>>171001526
Black Knight Armour, I think.

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Trying this again, does anyone on PC have 5-10 minutes to spare to help me scum/dupe some items? I need to make +0 versions of some weapons so that I can upgrade them on this character and can still have +0s to mule/twink onto new characters. You'll get to keep copies of the stuff I need to dupe.

>>171001848
damn now i wanna cum in that.

Anybody on PC want to Co-op Deacons? I'm playing a pure int build, and I can't scratch them.

Pass is dsg.

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>>171001538
That's why I haven't done stuff like adolf hitler. I don't have the DLCs anymore.

On another story, I got a dark sword + shield user, took half his estus before another guy invaded. He sat there and the guy tried attacking him so I attacked back, then he ran and I fought him again with him using the anime furry sword. I took the rest of his estus and he ran to summon a phantom, but didn't find any and ended up dying. A pretty nice compensation after the cheaters.
S-Sorry for the blog

>>171002106
Forgot to mention: anybody who wants to Co-op, just throw your sign down in front of the boss fog.

>>171002106
Gimme 2-3 minutes
Where do you want that sign?

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Whats the best SL to invade cathedral, farron keep and Catacombs at?

SL40 with +4?

can I get watchdog action at the level?

>>171002353
In front of the boss fog, if that works for you.
Thanks anon.

Is Friedes Great Scythe still a high tier /shit-eating PvP weapon, or can I use it without getting dirty looks?

>>171001848
Holy shit what enemy is that? I don't remember anything similar

>>171000519
>Then what are you complaining about?

Currently it's your lack of ability to comprehend the written word.

>Nobody's forcing you to deal with pvpfags

Except for the people who invite themselvves into my game to murder me, a fact that I'd think you'd have snapped to since you're asserting that invasions are the main reason for playing the game for most of the community, which I'll point out is a dubious claim.

>>171002378
You'll more likely get Watchdog action at SL25-30 with a +3 or +4 weapon. But who knows, I once got summoned as a Dorkmoon into Crucifixion Woods at SL50+8, might have been a NG+ host.

Thanks a bunch anons

>>171002605
>Except for the people who invite themselvves into my game to murder me
There's an extremely simple solution to that, you know.

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>>171002527
sanctum priestess, from the crown of the sunken king DLC

>>171002615
I figured since you can invade SL36 as SL40 then it would be low enough?

>>171002525
People have stopped using it because they suck at it.

>>171002752
it pissed me off that you could only get the hat, I wanted a butt reevaling flower dress to go with it

>>171002754
To be honest, I don't know if Watchdogs can even invade into Farron Keep, which is why I said Crucifixion Woods. Of all the times I invaded as a purple into Farron Keep, I've never seen a Watchdog, whereas when I do the same in Crucifixion Woods there's almost always at least one Watchdog who comes to help me kill the host (or vice versa).

Thus my reasoning for the lower SL is that people are more likely to be lower SL when they enter in from Undead Settlement, as opposed to having grinded a few levels and then entered Farron Keep.

>>171003037
fair enough, SL30 +4 it is then (because boss soul weapons dont have +3 level)

guess I'll just have to 2hand constantly

>>171002702
I'll refer you back to:
>you're still trying to oversimplify what I'm saying so you can drop a "ur just not gud play offline."

The fact remains that if I want access to everything that DS3 has I have to play online or farm rare covenant items for an unreasonable amount of time. Sometimes I have to do both, like if I want DMB.

Would your response to "I hate the giant seed" be something along the lines of "just don't invade"?

>>170999656
>and fighting other people is ancillary to me
That... sucks.

If dueling wasn't a thing these games might actually be worse than Nioh.

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DaS2 lore at launch would have been good and make a lot more sense if it never mentioned the flamelinking cycle, and was entirely about taking the mantle of a lord.

This is irrefutable

>>171003696

Dark souls is better offline, multiplayer was always a side benefit.

>>171002605
They're not the main reason to play the game. They're the main reason to keep playing the game after you're done with it. Not as bold of a claim as you might think.
Just turn offline on faggot, it takes 3 seconds to do and its completely infallible. The only thing you're missing on is a bunch of worthless catalysts & spells, a ring that's only good for invasions, and a miracle that you're gonna have to farm in single player anyway because the covenant is broken.

>>171003696
>If dueling wasn't a thing these games might actually be worse than Nioh.

I'm amazed at how many of the people who play these games don't actually seem to like them.

>>171003850
>Just turn offline on

That won't fix the design flaws that were introduced by catering to PvPfags.

That also doesn't answer the question I asked.

Would your response to "I hate the giant seed" be something along the lines of "just don't invade"?

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>Filianore goes mad after you wake her up
>after the boss battle you receive the second half of Manus' pendant

>>171003498
So, you're complaining that a game that is designed from the ground up to include integrated multiplayer, is rewarding players who actually use the multiplayer component of the game.

If you're trying to be a completionist, then suck it up and participate in the multiplayer component of the game. Or use Collector's Edition. Otherwise, just accept that this aspect of the game is not going to change, and deal with it.

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I am PVP god

>Finally find other Ultra user
>Hoping for fun duel, he's probably just as relieved to not be fighting a fast weapon run spammer
>Fight the most passive shitter in all my playtime
GODDAMMIT

>>171004181

Chester already had it idoit

>>171004184
>So, you're complaining that a game that is designed from the ground up to include integrated multiplayer, is rewarding players who actually use the multiplayer component of the game.

No, I'm complaining that a bunch of shit was locked behind PvP. DeS was designed from the ground up with integrated online and didn't have that issue. Bloodborne was designed with integrated online from the ground up and didn't have that issue.

It's not an issue that needs to exist.

There better be a UGS with DBS moveset in the last DLC

>>171004464
I think he's implying the Filianore is Marvelous Chester.

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Say I want to do a peasant build/farmer cosplay. How fucked is my play through/pvp going to be using only fourplow, scythe, mallet, handaxe etc? Which "peasant" weapon could be considered best?

>>171004514

From didnt add the peasant items to the game

>>171004503
If people didn't need to participate in PvP in order to get the PvP rewards, then why would they PvP in the first place?

Lots of games have things that are locked behind PvP, it's a fact of life. It's not an issue, it's a deliberate design decision that was made to encourage people to PvP.

>>171003697
Dark Souls 2 is about the concept of the Curse.

The Undead are cursed to come back from death over and over, reliving their lives over and over.

The same is true for the world itself. Kingdoms rise and fall on the same spot and the First Flame dies and is reborn over and over.

>>171004593
Thats why I put it in quotes. I meant things a literal peasant could grab from their barn and fight with. For example the various shitty farm tools you can pick up in undead settlement.

was the datamined stuff the four legit bosses or not FUCK

I doubt they will be showing boss weapons on wednesday's stream

>>171004514
Plow is alright, use harpe for memetic value

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I miss Vanilla DaS2.

>>171004132
I'm curious what giants seeds have to do with anything, and they're truly the least of PvP's problems.

Now how about you answer my question of what you would replace multiplayer with to ensue the longevity of the game since you vehemently believe that it has to reason to exist.

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Are you even trying to make this game good from? How does this shit pass?

>>171004964
*no reason to exist

ban dark souls 2 posters when. ruins the general.

>>171004984
Every game has that. There's parts of Lost Izalith like that, not to mention all the missing textures in places like Lothric Castle, Carthus and ADP.

>>171004904
>Vanilla DaS2
Literally a worse gaming experience than Lords of the Fallen.

>>171000031
The difference is you don't need to kill bosses or clear areas 30 times to get an item. (Or in DS2, 150 times)

Rare loot drops ARE fluff that extends playtime.

>>171005383
lotf>das2

>>171004725
>Lots of games have things that are locked behind PvP

But the only games in the Soulsborne series where that's a thing are the games that Bamco had a hand in. It may be a deliberate design choice but it's a shitty one and that's why it's an issue.

>>171004964
>I'm curious what giants seeds have to do with anything

Probably because you didn't bother to read the string before jumping in.

Would your response to "I hate the giant seed" be something along the lines of "just don't invade"?

>Now how about you answer my question of what you would replace multiplayer with to ensue the longevity of the game

When you put out a fire, what do you replace it with?

At that, is it really beyond your fucking comprehension that my issue is the covenant system and the shit locked behind it and not the invasion system itself? I don't have this problem with DeS or BB.

>banned from dark souls discord for rightfully calling out a manlet

WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?

>>171000031
>Did it ever cross your mind that the player goes into a game looking for playtime?
I don't. I buy mine for a few disinterested hours of noises making me feel good about myself before I move on to the next thing my flavor-of-the-week LPer is playing on YouTube.

>>171005509
>player character is always a manlet
>when will they learn

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>>171005509
>dark souls discord

>>171004984
>Implying this is any worse than the pots with no physics in DaS3

>>171002525
It's still shit-eating because it's a breandead HA weapon but it's not, and was never, high tier.
People will just think you're retarded for using something that isn't a washingpole in the washingpole meta and abuse you with a washingpole

>>171005570
I know this is a joke but I think there's a lot of truth to it, that'd explain the quick cycles on /v/ and it would explain why like half of the people who put Bloodborne in their PS4 didn't beat Gascoigne.

I'm at the place with the giant crabs and I'm wondering whether it's a good idea to kill them or just run past them. They hit like a truck, but they don't give too many souls when killed and so far I haven't got any drops from them.

>>171006359
Run past. They are meant for invades to lure you into so they can gank you for easy kills.

>>171006359
Farm them if you want the best weapon in the game

>>171006359
The giant crabs aren't really worth killing. They're more or less just a stage hazard to scare you away from the water. They won't follow you onto land.

>>171006359
One of the giant crabs in the upper swamp drops a ring that you'll already have if you're a pyromancer. The giant crab in the lower swamp drops a ring or a headpiece, can't remember which. Killing the crabs in the painting gets you a crystal gem.

Outside of that they're not worth killing.

I just found soldiers rest and it's stupid why does it exist.

>>171006359
Which place? There's at least 3-4 places with giant crabs.

If you're talking about Crucifixion Woods, they're kind of pointless to try to kill if you don't have enough damage output. Their main reason for being there is to guard some loot that can be useful for various builds.

>>171006568
Access to the tree that drops Giant Seeds.

>>171006568
For loot purposes and a convenient way to farm a ng+ red phantom, though this was invalidated by the DLC taking the armor he drops and putting it in chests spread across all 3 of them.

>>171006568
Easy access to Seed. You have to kill Armorer Dennis first though.

Why is everyone jerking off anri's straight sword? It has shit stats

Help me dsg: how do I defeat reactive greatshield play? It's the only playstyle that consistently shits on me and I feel like a complete retard for not being able to overcome it

>>171006832
It's actually a decent straightsword for a very specific build but there's nothing noteworthy about it otherwise.

>>171006832
It heals like a +10 blessed weapon at any level and scales well off of luck.

>>171000437

what is this and where do i find it

how come people like to forgo shields so much in 3 pve? I decided to use the follower shield on my third run and it actually seems to save me in spots that plain rolling couldn't?

is it just some meme that you should just always roll around no matter what?

>>171006832
Hidden luck scaling.

It's still mediocre and I know a few people who swear by the barbed straight sword over it if you want a luck / bleed build

What are the best Halberds in DaS 3? How do I build around them?

>>171007039
http://rezuaq.tumblr.com/newArea

>>171006568
Treeseed and, IIRC, there's some decent loot in that area.

I think the funny part about it is that Dennis is only difficult earlygame, but there's no reason to need a treeseed that early so you can just skip it and come back after clearing Bastille

>>171006832
>>171007074

In addition to the hidden luck scaling, it also has hidden bleed damage, which is only enabled when using Carthus Rouge.

>that DLC dagger from last trailer
>unique
Good start. But
>mage weapon
>two handed
The fuck

>>171007109
The best halberds are Gundyr's and BKH
Gundyr's is a pure str weapon. Meet the minimum dex requirement and then pack as much strength as you can afford. 66 will give you effective99 while 2H, the hardcap.

BKH is a quality weapon. Go 40/40.

Both are mainly good for their WAs.

>>171007109
gundyr's is simply the best. You farm it by killing Champion Gundyr once and transposing his soul. It works best at 40/40 just like everything else

Do most pvp players play on NG or NG+?

>>171007275
>dagger, which means it takes a lot of hits to kill something
>attacking costs FP
It's not meant to be a mage weapon, it;s meant to substitute magecraft

>>171007073
>using a shield with 80% physical block, shit elemental defense and 55 stability
If that's what's saving you, then may you should consider a better shield.

Rolling is almost always better than blocking, this has been the case in all Souls games. If you can block an attack, you can probably dodge it instead. Especially in DaS3 where rolls cost so little stamina and regen is absurdly fast.

>>171007073
Compared to previous games, rolling in dark souls 3 has very low stamina cost. When you compare the amount of stamina you lose from blocking to rolling, it's fairly clear that while you may guarantee yourself safety from damage through blocking, you won't be blocking for long before you get guard broken and riposted.

It's simply way more viable to roll in terms of stamina cost and as a result shield use is nearly extinct

>>171007138

:ok_hand:

>>171007339
The BKH has a vastly superior moveset and an unparryable weapon art attack, compared to the champion's "press l2 for free riposte" charge.

eleum loyce forever #1,

>>171007073
People exaggerate how bad shields are but rolling really is ridiculously good.

It's probably the one thing I hate the most about DS3 because rolling in all these games, especially when they are in rapid succession is one of the stupidest looking things I've ever seen.

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It doesn't matter what I intend to do when I roll a new build, they all turn into midrolling zweisexuals

>>171006359
You fight the crabs by being in their face while dodging their attacks. When they lift their whole body for an attack you can do a immediate riposte. They will also go into ripostable state if you hit them enough. They are really trivial if you if do it like this. You might have to use a few minutes to get the timing, but that's all.

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>>171007729
>rolling in all these games, especially when they are in rapid succession is one of the stupidest looking things I've ever seen.

>>171006359
Fucking Crab Souls


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a90MEIBI2iA

It's quite pointless to fight the crabs; when you're low level they're too OP and when you're high they yield little reward, and either way they're easy to avoid

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This shit can get pretty funky.

>>171007073
Shields are still useful in dark souls 3 because you have a lot of enemies that bounce of the shields when they attack. E.G Dogs become trivial.

The flailing attacks that a lot of people go reeeeeeeee about is easily countered by shields(which stuns most enemies using that type of attack)

>>171008175
Just stay close to them and hit them with something heavy like a mace. They have 1 attack that is hard to dodge, but they won't use that one if you are in their face.

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What are some fun PvE builds for DaS2?

SotFS to be specific.

>>171007409
NG++ for the rings, not like it matters

>>171006890
Pls help. My ego is suffering.

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>>171008219
HURRRRR

>>171008707
use kick

>>171008543
>Kill Benhart
>Make BMGS raw
>Get MLGS
>Make MLGS magic
>Powerstance

>>171008543
A midrolling zaphander+10 build with no shield

>>171006890
Try warpick.

Whenever I play I put all my stat points evenly into all stats.
VIT END DEX STR ATT INT FAI are all at the same level (22).
Is this efficient and does it make me a jack of all trades?

>>171008842
"Londo of Despair" sounds like a castlevania game

>>171008707
Kick, parry, quickstep to backstab, hit it twice with an ultra, use one of the various weapons or arts that ignore shields... git gud

>>171006890
WotG and low equip loads with high endurance and a heavy emphasis on curved weapons and DEX. Get dem staggers.

>>171008996
Only if you're level 387

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zMr9PRrx4

>>171008996
It's only efficient if you're taking all those stats to at least 40 or even 60.

Good idea if you're into doing a lot of ng+ pve stuff.

>>171008543
Bleed(with all the ring and armor gear needed).

Full Moon Sickle + offhand bleed bandit knife


Or use the Greatsword of the Forlorn in the Arena.

>>171009295
I'm only going to play once on the same account

>>171009236
>It's just cuts to backstabs and riposts

zzzzzzzzz

>>171009338
Health, endurance, enough in vit and your damage stat to be good with the gear you like. You're done

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>>171009441

>i didn't watch the video

>>171009484
but there are tons of damage stats

>>171009493
Half of it.

What are the most feminine looking armors in DS3? Ignoring outright slutwear, at least.

>>171009606

Typically the damage stat(s) people choose to invest in is dictated by the weapon they wish to use, as different weapons have different scaling with different stats. For example, the chaos blade, a katana, has very high dexterity scaling, so you would invest in dexterity if you enjoyed the weapon and wanted to play the game using it. If you haven't found a weapon you like yet, I would recommend investing evenly across strength and dexterity until you do

>>171009726
brass

>second heaviest armour in the game with best resistances all around only adds around 10-12% resistances from the dancer's armour which is one of the lightest metal armor sets

who greenlit this. vitality is such a worthless stat in 3

>>171009726
The ones that say in the description they were made for women? Most armor is unisex and steel boob cups are a bad meme.

>>171009606
Different weapons scale with different stats.

Do you really need this spelled out for you?

>>171009726
Conjurator set, The priestess stuff. Black leather set, Antiquated Set, Painting guardian set, fire keeper

>>171009965
don't women need steel boob cups?

>>171009934
They were trying to prevent anymore giant dads, havel moms, and supersonic smelters, but they mainly just made all armor equally useless like bloodborne.

>>171010095
>>171009851
I can't decide which weapons I like. So I put points evenly into dex and str so I can use both axes and swords. And then I put points into faith and int so I can use spells.

How should I distribute my stats if i wanted to play as ornstien at about lvl 80?

>>171001938
Someone please help.

>>171009934
sounds like ds1 is the best game ever

>>171010286
evenly

>>171010286
*in DS3

>>171010124
Actually no. If a woman is going into combat (or anything serious and athletic) shes going to strap down the girls till they barely register and cant bounce around. That's why even the big jugged Olympic athletes look like they have A cups.

>>171010352
Just collect the +0 weapons you want and back up your save

>mfw trying to use full Black Iron set, Fume, and a Greatshield.

Havels, and Favor, and I'm still not quite there, using a baby King's Shield for the time being.

>>171010286
Bare minimum Vit for the armor, spear and rings while remaining at 69.9% equip load (Havel's +2 and FaP +2 help with this)
14 Str
At least 30-35 Vig
Dump the rest into Dex, End and Fai in that order

>>171007502
I had it upgraded and its around 66, what would you recommend instead?

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>Beat DS3 with a melee/pyro build
>Try to do a new character focused on miracles
>check videos of miracle builds to see how well they do with PvE/PvP
>Even at high FTH lightning spears do about the same damage as a lightning urn
>'ok maybe sorceries are better than miracles'
>You can be good with them as long as you have like 12 buffs on at once
>no room for creativity unless you like doing shit damage with melee and spells
>you only get the better spells in the last areas of the game
I guess I'll just do another pyroknight build then

>>171010265
you're going to have fuck all for hp and endurance and damage with that shitty """"""build""""".

level vigor and endurance to 27 and ignore int, fth, and attunement (this is assuming you picked knight) because it's complete shit until late game and resin buffs are better in terms of return investment until you get at least 60 faith and you won't be casting much of anything so you don't need attunement unless you need 100 FP for tears of denial. ideally you want to get 40 str and 40 dex, this will allow you to wield pretty much every worthwhile weapon and use it effectively.

>>171010708
Black K***ht Shield is one of the most-used medium shields, even in PvP. It's really heavy but it has 100% physical block, some of the best fire resistance of any shields in the game and enough stability to rival some greatshields.

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>Lothric long spear increases poise.
>The only move that can use poise is the super parryable WA.
What did they mean by this?

>>171010609
I'm still running through NG+, so if I make a backup now then it won't have the +2 rings or duplicates of other boss weapons.

>>171010286
>>171010464
something along the lines of https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/152551

>>171010924
>sorcerer
>buffs
I hope you aren't talking about the damage rings, because pyros and clerics rely on those too.

>>171010924
Yup, faith in pve doesn't really come into an acceptable power output until endgame of a NG run or throughout a NG+ run.

Even at 'full power' in NG+ it leaves a lot to be desired considering what a breeze the game is on a basic bitch melee build by comparison.

Why is farron keep so shit? Walking is so damn boring. Have I missed the ring that allows you to run in deep water?

>>171011175
>cant even be offhanded well with a hyperarmor weapon in the other hand due to shit onehanded pike R1s
we've been memed

>>171010924
on the bright side, onyx blade pyromancer build is extremely fun. I would use it now but I only have 1 respec left on this playthrough and I want to save it for my TRC run through, not keen on fighting the demon in pain and his butt buddy on NG+++ with a pyro build.

>>171011538
No, but you missed the Brigand Twindaggers, whose weapon art allows you to cruise through the murk.

Anyone on ds3 on the xbone want some co op

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>45int at level 40
>+4 sorcerer's staff
>Red tear stone ring active
>Crown of Dusk
>Soul spear doesn't even do half of the hosts HP
Literally, with absolutely no possibility of hyperbole, with ultimately no degree of exaggeration WHAT did Miyahacki mean by this?

>>171011702
Why do people obsess over the twindaggers? You can buy a quickstep dagger from the handmaiden right from the getgo

No mobile footage from PAX? Wow

>>171010708
pvp wise anything with 100 physical and at least as much stability as the lothric knight shield is good, I would suggest weaponart midshields over parrying midshields

pve wise people care more about defenses than stability since a lot of the times you can get your shield flipped and just go unpunished anyway since mobs and bosses aren't too sharp, but ultimately it's not worth the stamina and just makes fights longer since shieldpoking blows ass

>>171011773
Because you have to kill a fat feminist SJW to get them.

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>played for 300 hours
>just found a new area in firelink shrine
wew

>>171010926
if I go 40 str and 40 dex, I won't be able to use magic effectively.

>>171011769
>not 48 INT
>not CSS
>no morion blade
I hope you have both sorcery damage rings too

>>171011769
Casting tools are fucked.
Upgrading a casting tool doesn't increase its base spell buff at all, only its scaling.
So the difference between a +4 casting tool with base int and 99 int is only like 30 or 40 spellbuff.

Spells only begin doing instantkill-levels of damage when they are slabbed with every single possible damage amp stacked. Anything less and you tickle because your weapon's scaling is fucked and you get nothing from your massive int investnment

>>171012032
>not tracking the sound of a crystal lizard on your first playthrough

must suck being an earlet

>>171011769
>no offhand Morion Blade
>no Bellowing Dragoncrest
If you're going to hypermode, at least do it right.

>>171010924
Lightning stake is fun 2bh.

>>171009726
>no one suggesting the Dancer's set
You have failed me for the last time /dsg/

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14 DAYS TO GO

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>171011293
Let's do some comparisons:
>Pyromancer
>Witche's Ring
>(Optional) Great Swamp Ring
>(Optional) Fire Clutch Ring
>That's pretty much it

>Sorceries
>Court Sorcerer's Staff
>Scholar's Candlestick
>Crown of Dusk
>Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring
>Young Dragon Ring
>Magic Clutch Ring

>Miracles
>Ring Of The Sun's First Born
>Morne's Ring
>Is there anything else really

Sorcerers rely heavily on more equipment just to be up to par with Pyros that can run the more powerful ring buff than having all three at once.
You either become a glasscanon or do shit damage for better survivability. You can't deny that.

>>171012032
you're luckier than I am. That was the first area I discovered in firelink shrine and I spent 15 hours trying to clear the skeletons and catacombs before fucking off and going to undead burg in defeat

>>171012058
>magic
>effective

It's complete shit until grand archives, one of the last areas in the game. It's terribad early on compared to using a melee build.

What starting class did you choose?

>>171012140
Forgot to mention I had both young and bellowing dragoncrest rings

>morion blade
Fuck. I knew I was forgetting something

>>171012058
read the thread, magic is arse especially early on

>>171012382
sorcerer

>>171012250
>calls smaller damage ring and clutch ring optional for pyro but mandatory for sorcerer
>calls a catalyst mandatory for sorcerers but both other casters when sorcerers have the most weapon-catalyst choices
I go without criwn if dusk and clutch ring on my sorcerer and only sometimes use the candlestick. It's fine.

>court sorcerers staff
>60 int
>young + bellowing dragon rings
>sages ring
>crown of dusk on female character

>crystal soul spear
>crystal homing soulmass
>soul stream
>crystal magic weapon + raw lothric k***ht sword

Am I in for a good time pve wise?

>>171012180
>ignoring outright slutwear atleast
???

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>>171012191
>tfw you've been playing mostly just DS3 for all this time and you're just starting to get burned out when the dlc is about to hit

I gotta quit right now

>>171012020
there's no such thing as SJW

>>171008175
>People doing bullshit like this
>Still don't have a Dark Souls 3 collision data in a map viewer.

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>>170998631

why do people use katanas?
Are they weebs?

>>171012530
J U S T.

Don't worry, you can respec at anytime provided you have a pale tongue at rosaria in cathedral of the deep. I can't tell you how to play but unless you go full glass cannon, you're not going to do well for most of the game. If I were you, I'd use a typical melee build with some utility buffs/spells until I get the good sorceries and catalysts in late game then respec to a typical caster build.

>>171012917
I like the eastern armour but it feels wrong to use other weapons with it

I've always wondered but never bothered to check, is it softbannable to CE your estus? I mean just giving yourself shards and bone dusts to manually upgrade, I'd imagine editing the uses itself would be a ban. I think in 2 it had a way of knowing the progress you made and if you had more uses than the progress you've made it would be a softban, but I'm not sure if I'm remembering that correctly or if that carried over to 3.

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>>171012573
They are optional because you already do insane damage with an upgraded pyromancy glove
>Witch's Ring
>Sage Ring
>Chloranthy Ring
>Ring of Favor
>Still do 700 damage with Chaos Bed Vestiges

As opposed to stacking at least 3 sorcery rings plus the candlestick on your right hand and the SPECIFIC BEST SORCERY STAFF that you only get halfway through the game. Meanwhile with pyro you get the only good pyromancer glove the moment you rescue Cornyx, in the Undead Settlement, the 2nd area of the game.


>calls a catalyst mandatory for sorcerers but both other casters when sorcerers have the most weapon-catalyst choices
...What?

>nobody told me to get the master key as a gift when starting ds1
>have to waste time finding keys instead of opening all doors by default
is the master key the best gift in ds2 and ds3 as well?

>>171013012
Yes it is, you'll very likely get an invalid data warning for that.

>>171012917
The special attack is fun as fuck.

>>171012714
Damn right, haven't touched DS3 since february. I get these itches to play it again, but i resist them to play the DLC with cock cocked and locked on

>>171011773
Thanks for the info, anon

>>171013071
Later games don't have a Master Key

>>171013225
okay. Any advice for those games then?
I don't want to be an angry cuck as I walk past gates that I should have opened with the master key again.

>>171010265
I would advise you to settle on something relatively early into the game so you don't end up with low damage on whatever you're using

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>>170998000
>You will never power stance 2 zweihander again
why live

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You'll never survive the terror of... Peak

>>171013378
The later games aren't even designed in such a way that there really are any locked doors like that.

>>171013035
No called court sorcerer staff mandatory when you have other options. But you didn't call a pyromancy flame mandatory. You also didn't call talisman mandatory for FTH when most miracles were buiot around poise casting.

Sorcery has the widest options for casting because of stuff like the heysel pick and immolation tinder

>>171013454
M-maybe the last DLC will finally give us paired ultras

>>171013378
Instead, you'll at least be able to teleport around and the keys aren't that bad to collect, like in DS1 where there's so many fucking different keys.

>>171013071
>opening all doors by default
Master Key doesn't open ALL doors, only a few, most notably the door between New Londo and Valley of Drakes.

>>171013071
Master Key is only really good if you're a sequence breaking motherfucker, otherwise it's only good in one or two cases for an actual new player (mainly just the bonfire room in the Depths, and maybe gaining early access to Havel's shortcut).

One has to wonder though, why should any of the player characters have to go around searching for keys when they could just two-hand that greathammer they picked up somewhere and just smash the door down? A bunch of the doors that block your way in DaS1 are either rusted iron that's probably about to fall off their hinges, metal bars that are just as decrepit, or wood.

>>171013487
> [Take me somewhere else intensifies]

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>>171013487

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>>170998631

>>171013530
There's actually a lot of locked doors in Dark Souls II.

And the Petrified enemies standing in the way of things.

>>171013530
okay. That's great

>>171013543
I suppose but is there anything like the master key that i'll wish that I had picked in the start?
Not getting it in ds1 pissed me off because I would have been able to release big hat logan

>>171013586
I wanted to go get that divine sword at the undead dragons feet but I couldn't

>>171013661
I broke the sequence by overleveling in darkroot garden and then shitstomping undead burg, depths, blighttown and anorlondo

Hopefully Vati will tell us how to access the DLC tommorow.

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>>171012883


There's worse out there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s7GXnX0lSM

>>171013828
What's tomorrow?

I want to make a pyro warrior with a somewhat heavy armor. It's more for roleplay reasons but it's the first time I make such a messy build so I don't know how to make it effective. Suggestions?

I like how watching for honor gameplay by scott jund manages to be more boring than dark souls 3 pvp gameplay by him.
How is For Honor doing nowadays anyway?

>>171013859
He gets full access to the DLC

>>171013798
You know you can buy the Master Key off Domnhall of Zena at Firelink Shrine after meeting him in the depths, right?

>>171013916
Why not you check the For Honor thread?

>>171014097
Going strong it seems. Neat

>>171004831

Demon prince is crimson bat

The angel boss is ruin capital king

Abyss dragon is mother dragon

Filianore is part of snakesoul

>>171014094
He doesn't actually make that move until you've rung both bells of awakening, effectively cutting off any use you might get out of the master key, save for being able to free Logan without getting the cage key first.

>>171013916
That game is my biggest buyer's remorse. It's not bad at all but it gets boring very fast and the "meta" is shit considering it rewards being an overly defensive shit.
Also I heard it lost 80% of the playerbase from launch

I hope DS3 being the last Dark Souls dramatically increases the chance of a new edition of DaS1 for PC.
It would be so great to have a fully functional version of that game.

>>171014328
You only had to see that Ubisoft was making it to know it would be a disappointment.

>>171014376
There already is. Dark Souls 1 with Ds Fix, Mouse fix, and texture mods.

>>171013861
use a dark-infused longsword, estoc, mace or a warpick, they are extremely light and pyro glove weights nothing giving a shitload of room for armor

>>171014376
What is non-functional about the current version of DaS1 for pc? Sure you need mods to really get it going properly but literally anyone should be able to figure out how to use those simple fixes.

>>171014553
I bet he isn't capable.

>>171014376
HEY SEATH, HOW DOES I HAVE FEEL TO BE A bitch?

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>>171005586
Dark Souls 3 characters are fucking 6'0", not as tall as Bloodborne characters but there's no excuse anymore manlets

>>170998681
Vaati is our guy and one of the only souls youtuber fucks not to look like a dribbling autistic failure

>>171014474
>>171014553
Uninformed buyers to this day get it and immediately refund it when they see the resolution problem or that the online doesn't work.
It would be a good move financially even if it's just stealing the work modders did and integrating it, studios have done that plenty of times before.

>>171014817
People can just pirate it if they want to play it. And all pirates will use dsfix

>>171014817
Uninformed buyers only have to take one look at something as easily accessible as the steam discussion page of the game to see pinned links to every fix they will need.

Also the game is 6 years old, sales don't matter anymore.

Is an onyx blade pyro build viable? My friend told me I'm better off dark infusing an astora greatsword because the damage and moveset sucks.

>>171014974
>Also the game is 6 years old,
Well there's room to pull a skyrim special edition

>>171014974
Doesn't VAC lynch you for messing with the game?

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>>171014778
>Vaati
>Our guy
http://vocaroo.com/i/s12ZGfMYCTiT

FUCK THESE GODDAMN CATACOMBS

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How should I proceed with this archery only run?
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/152556
Do I even bother with a regular bow? I don't think they would ever be more useful than this crossbow, even at 40 DEX.

>>171015181
Use divine weapon to kill all the skellies without killing necro mancers.
Silver knights swords and SHIET

>>171015150
No, DS1 has absolutely no anti-cheat of any sort, save for a mod that will only sever the connection between people online if it detects stuff like impossible stats.

None of the DS games use VAC, it was considered for DS2 but they dropped it.

>>171015002
>claymore moveset
>sucks
>onyx blade damage
>sucks
Your friend is full of shit. Onyx Blade is a meta weapon.

>>171015346
He's good on his word on a lot of things but fuck him, it seems pretty powerful in youtube videos. I'll try it out.

>>171015150
The first game is DaS: Custom Edition, It's not like on console at all.

>>171015286
In carthus catacombs? Can't find any necromancers

>>171015180
The autismal rage he causes and misleading people with stupid theories most certainly makes him /ourguy/

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>>171015180
>tfw your stupid idea of mocking vaati gets acknowledged

Is the parry part of the katana weapon arts really bad? Never see anyone use it.

>>171014328
That's what you get with Ubisoft, now: A cool core concept with terrible execution and a pricing model made by someone who's clearly high.

>>171015967
4 parry frames, so yes.

>>171013691
>>171013710
Wallmind

>>171014328
>>171016205
People knew it was going to be this way when the first NDA'd alpha gameplay leaked and got uploaded all over porn sites. It looked so underwhelming compared to official material.

is it a bad idea to go into the new DLC on NG+?

I feel like I'm going to get raped if I do, but I also want to go to NG+ to get better rings and some stuff I missed or didn't try out this playthrough.

>>171011242
Looks p good, but then I cant throw lightning

What exactly is the breakdown for the weight stat? I hate that its divorced from endurance

>>171015472
It could be he isn't keeping it buffed, in which case that's his own fault. Any ultra outside of Yhorm's machete and the Farron Greatsword isn't very viable in pvp this time around so l really don't know what he's on here.

>>171016619
Just make a new character and scum him your new rings. You have two weeks to prep for the DLC anyways.

>>171016745
>scum him your new rings
excuse me

>>171015567
In that case blessed weapons stop the respawn but they only respawn once to begin with. Anon thought you meant Nito's grave rave in ds1.

>>171015967
The only thing it really has going for it is increased defense during and after the parry frames (and even then only if you have the FP), so if you fuck up a parry you're punished less.

That being said, anybody who wants to parry in PvP is just going to use the Caestus.

Cant decide between using 2kat or Gotthards, is there an advantage either of them have?

>>171017021
2kat WA is a super strong gimmick and pairs extremely well with bleed
Gotthards are the longest SS and their rolling L1 is still the best rolling attack in the game, even after its nerf

>>171016810
If you're on PC, back up your save file, trade someone the shit you want to give your character, restore your save, then log in as that character and pick up the stuff. The other guy also gets to keep duplicates if he backs up his save after you give him the stuff.

I think it also works on PS4, but only under very specific conditions.

>>171017109
Nothing specific about it. Either back your save to the cloud if you have ps+ or just copy it to a usb.

>>171017084
Will I ever actually bleed anything out as a quality build without buffing with 2kat?

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>>171016952
Explain the caestus meme to me. I understand that it comes out fast and the frames are alright. But l honestly have a lot more luck parrying with a target shield than a fist weapon, and it can also take a hit or two in a pinch.

>>171017519
>I understand that it comes out fast and the frames are alright
That's pretty much it. It is also really light and you can make it blessed/simple for some shitty regen.

>>171017512
Hollow bleed is a meme, quality+rouge 2kat bleeds no problem.
If you can't decide though, why not be a 4sword f4g? I assume you're 2 handing most of the time and you can get the best of both worlds.

>>171017650
You can do the same with the target shield though?

>>171017519
You shouldn't be blocking hits with a parry shield, period. Either roll or use a medium shield or bigger.

Caestus is also lighter, and apparently has less recovery frames (which means if they fuck up they have to wait less before they can roll away). And it's harder for shitters to actually see that you have a Caestus equipped since it's just a small thing at the tip of your fist as opposed to an obvious shield either in the hand or on the back.

>>171017759
Yeah, but the caestus is objectively superior if you want some pocket regen.

>>171017650
My issue with the caestus is if you partial parry, you're eating the whole chunk of damage. I don't know, I feel like with latency as a consideration having more frames > faster because there are a lot of parries I felt like I should have gotten from the caestus but with the target I don't have any issue at all.
For that matter, a lot of folks like small shields like the iron round shield. Anything special there?

>>171017512
No
But the buff is fucking free so there's no reason to not use it when your weapon has synergy with it.

Hollow builds are a bad meme. You get +35 bleed from rouge (which straight doubles it for most bleed weapons) while 40 luck gives you like +6 at best. A quality 2kat with rouge bleeds in the same amount of hits as a hollow luck 2kat with rouge, but the former does more damage for less stats

>>171017836
Target shield can block a straight sword no problem. It's not ideal, but then again you wouldn't do it in ideal conditions.

>>171017519
Its super light so you can squeeze it trough practically any build, it also doesn't have nearly as many recovery frames making it way more spammable.

>>171017992
From my experience, the timing on small non-target/buckler shields feels way more consistent than any other parry tool.

>>171018247
They bumped up the recovery frames a number of patches ago iirc. It used to be that you could spam it and get a parry pretty damn often. Seems like that doesn't work anymore, l almost never get parried by a caestus but other tools have thrown me off. One motherfucker got me with his wooden round shield EVERY time.

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kek

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Will we finally get a new crossbow with some special attack in DLC?
Want my Kevin Graham build.

Anyone know how to get the scene with Hawkwood standing by the farron warrior grave outside firelink?

>>171017868
why? Lower weight?

I find I would rather have a shield that can at least absorb something if I have to take a hit, over a caestus which I'm never going to use except parrying, which my target shield can also do.

>a carim knight will dedicate his entire career to protecting a single maiden
Who was Lautrec's maiden?

>>171019160
Fina, goddess of Love and Protection

>>171018827
Just use splintering bolts.

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This is going to sound retarded but is there a rapier in DS3 that 'feels' like velkas rapier? I know rapiers are all about the stabby action but velkas felt kind of like a longsword if that makes sense?

>>171019035
I've only ever gotten it once, I think it is either a random thing that will occur before you defeat the abyss watchers upon loading into firelink or has a specific progress related trigger during some pre-abyss watcher bit of content.

>>171019389
There's a rapier in DS3 that does V motion as well but it feels and plays absolutely differently to Velka's Rapier.
Imagine a rapier paired with Black Keys from nasuverse.

>>171019389
Crow quills. Similar aesthetic though thinner as well.

>>171019389
Crow quills or estoc I guess, they have a few move different from other rapier

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Is Fingolfin basically a Dark Souls character?

>>171019389
There really isn't anything quite like that. DS3 is really lacking in the thrusting swords department in favor of plenty of straight/curved swords instead.

>>171019740
DS3 has the single craziest thrusting sword in the series and also Crystal Sage Rapier which allows to go full Silver Chariot.
As far as i'm concerned, it makes it the game with the best thrusting swords in series.

>>171019125
Yeah, because of the lower weight. Obviously your choice in parry tool will be up to your own tastes, but if you just want an off-hand regen tool then caestus is the way to go.

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>mage runs
haha

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http://www.iammajor.me/

Shamelessly stolen from other boards. Let's see the worst you guys can make.

>>171021040
>garbage spell
>garbage vig

>Nito fight with a divine weapon
This feels almost unfair

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>>171021065

>>171021290
Divine weapons would probably be completely worthless without that little tidbit of value.

>>171021040
Those aren't inframes, he's just straight up missing a hitbox in portions of his body because they're out of reach from grounded melee. Lots of large enemies are like that. Yhorm's chest is missing one, too.

If you want the MLGS early, just grab chaos fireball. It has 0 reqs and is both faster and stronger vs oceiros than soul spear.

Are leo ring counter hits enough of a big deal to justify wearing it if I'm using stuff like a straight sword or ultra greatsword that happen to have thrust R2 attacks?

>>171017748
4 sword? you mean... double 2kats?

>>171021402
Don't they also do bonus damage to 4kings?

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>>171021065

>>171021040
>that HP
>when fucking embered
just why, anon?

TOMORROW

>>171021839
Livestream ?

So, what's the max I can upgrade my weapon and still get decent Watchdog invasions?