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>Somehow became even weaker in a form that isn't even parry-able:
>>170828686

>Discord-sponsored tournament on March 25:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU
Redacted "Capital Knight" armor set screenshots: http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS, read with a grain of salt): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
Leaked first boss fight (SPOILERS): https://sendvid.com/ppo6urmb
Famitsu screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/A6diD
TRC gameplay from PAX East stream: https://mega.nz/#!nFUhTJTY!sVWEb4jeiteATO9mFWKPmtOuyPQiPI6IKEWXH1uS3qo

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Reposting in new bread
Have some frenly frens being frens
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>>170888274
>>170888274
I am a blue man. How does this work?
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>>170888392
Way of Blue, or Blue Sentinels?

>>170888380
That makes it worse then, the guy gets possessed and goes on a murderous rampage, only to lose his sun and go dark when he gets put down.

If that's what qualifies as a "happy" ending, then you know what to expect from the DLC.
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>>170888550
way of the blue. What dick head would have two blue groups. I guess the same dick head that made this shit game
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>>170888380
But Solaire linking the flame is canon within his own timeline
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>>170888585
There's your problem right there then. Way of Blue is the "Help me, I'm being invaded!" covenant that you talk to Saulden to join. Blue Sentinels is the "Let's kill some sinners!" covenant that you talk to Targray in Cathedral of Blue to join.
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>>170888651
I tried to join the Blue Sentinels once but he said I wasn't cool enough. Do I have to leave my covenant to join another one?
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>>170888756
You need to get one of those tokens from doing coop or whatever.
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>>170888756
You need a token of fidelity, go coop
>>170888550
He finds his sun though. That's happiness for him. Its temporal nature doesn't nullify it
>>170888614
No, miya likes to think that IF we save him and IF we don't link the flame, he does
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how do you even get up there
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>>170889256
There's a path you need to drop down to by the second group of tarpits; it's the location of one of the dark chasms, and has some giants further down. It'll lead back up there. There's usually some messages pointing it out - carrying a torch also helps to spot it.
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>>170889256
Jump harder
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I remember in vanilla DaS2 enemies would eventually despawn permanently if you killed them enough. Did they take that out in Scholar?
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Stop using Estus.
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>>170889350
you can take it out by joining the company of champions
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>>170889350
No, but if you join the company of champions they'll respawn indefinitely as long as you're in the covenant. It also brings back despawned enemies, IIRC.
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What's a good level for watchdogs?
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>>170889330
he kicked me out shortly after. I spent like five minutes looking for him
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>>170889402
Yes, except for once per ng ones. Killing while in CoC also doesn't count towards the spawn limit
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It's locked.
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convince me to go back into ds3 pvp, dsg
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>>170889731
You need to go deeper
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>>170889860
yea i saw another guy jump down and followed him. I died to the giants right after
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>>170889838
It's hilarious to get hatemail from metafags after you beat them with some gimmicky shit like golden ritualspear.
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>>170889893
Welcome to Shitbox City. Population: 2. Enjoy your stay
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>first mimic in the game dropped the symbol of avarice
Gat damn
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>>170890187
>first mimic dropped me some overpowered axe
Get on my level
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>>170890335
>i didnt kill the first mimic
you arent even trying :^)
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If I ever do a pyro build should I just use the Dark Hand as my weapon until I get a Dark gem or what?
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>>170890335
>didn't get both
You got played, lad.

>winged knight killed himself without any intervention from myself and actually fucking dropped something
This is the luckiest start I've ever had
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What SL +weapon should I be in Lothric castle? I haven't been invaded a single time at SL 60 +6
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>>170890482
Did he eat those lothric knights? Also, what's the standard procedure for this fat fuck? Only thing I've found is repeatedly plunging him
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I'm looking for a few guys to do a DS2 (scholar of the first sin) co-op challenge run with.

Not sure what exactly, but something among the lines of pick a class theme and stick to it (like fighter, wizard, paladin or something), and maybe something like you're only allowed to heal with estus, but you're only allowed to have 2-3 flasks.

Does this sound appealing enough for anyone to be up for it?

I've beaten base DS2, but I've never gotten around to playing the DLCs. So I've only recently bought the game of the year championship ultra DX edition, and it's a bit dull running through the default game with the same builds as always.
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>>170890589
roll, roll backstab
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>>170890589
>what's the standard procedure for this fat fuck?
same as everything
roll through attacks
attack the enemy when they're not attacking
backstab whenever you can
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>>170890589
Dodge and backstab when they finish their combo.
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Where do I co-op at sl 100 in DaS3? Sitting at Soul of Cinder and it's painfully slow
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>>170891124
should have stayed at sl80
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>>170891174
is it worth to level to 120 for pvp in ng+ or not
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>>170890639
>>170890651
>>170890676
I keep getting spinned on and rollcaught
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>rupture
>literally a flying triangle, and not the good looking kind
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>>170890589
I stand up where the RoS is and shoot him with a bow
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>>170891458
roll better
alternatively, bait an attack
don't roll but just move backwards and around his side
when he done attacking or it's just kinda safe to move around, sprint to his back and backstab

but really though just practice rolling now
you're going to need it
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>>170891527
I don't like rolling like a spastic but I feel I have to. Sage was an ass.
>>170891497
I was looking for something less cheesy, not more
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>>170891458
Drop down a level when he winds it up. Run back up and backstab him while he recovers.
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>>170891650
You didn't say that, you asked how people normally deal with him and I answered. *shrug*
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>>170891481
>posted in the wrong general
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>>170891815
Yeah, I'm annoyed at the game, not you. *unusable item gesture*
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>>170891245
you already leveled to the realm of ng+ and duelshitters, might as well go the whole way and hit 120
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>>170891124
SL100 is fine for co-op usually.
Mind you it's monday morning in the US and noon in europe, so there's probably not a lot of people playing right now.
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>>170889838
SL 90 invasions are fun from my experience. Dragon barracks best invasion spot. You could go a for a lower SL too I guess.
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What kind of damage does kirk's roll do?
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>>170893657
Maybe 3.
Like 10 for the full set I think.
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>>170893703
I meant type
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>int/quality GSoJ
>almost 700 AR
>magic damage is the least resisted in pvp
>tfw hitting people for more than 400 damage per hit
jesus
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>>170893881
That weapon is pretty sexy.
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Well, at least it works great against static enemies like giants and mimics.
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>>170893729
P sure it's just standard.
Not like it matters considering the output.
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>>170894095
Mercury is my go to tool for dealing with ganker fucking shits. They're so eager to R1 me to death that they just blunder in and lose half of their health in seconds. It's hilarious.
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>>170888514
I love when shit like this happens

I once got summoned for a fight club, and it ended up with us using White Tree branches and walked as 5 five "pope/priest" statues from pontiff to Anor Londo.

Shit took some time, but was fun
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>>170893881
what are your stats? mugenmonkey says even with 40/40/60 you only barely break 600 AR
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Is there any location in Dark Souls II that is exactly the same as one of the other two games (as in map overlap, not just the 'same location') like Anor Londo is in both Dark Souls and Dark Souls III?
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>>170894173
Yeah, it seems pretty fun, I also understand the poison weapon art better now.
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>>170894173
i've been using it in matches to give me some cover to lob CSS at my opponent, i'll give it a try in invasions
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>>170894845
27/40/40
2H it
WA gives it flat 80 magic damage boost
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>>170895151
oh, i'd forgotten the WA
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Does anyone on PS4 have a spare Silvercat Ring they could drop for me? I killed Sirris like I normally do, but didn't really think things through on this character, so I kind of need it back. If not, I'd appreciate it if someone could help me mule it over from a different save. Thanks in advance!
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I'm pretty surprised how useful the ice trail WA of Friede's Greatscythe becomes at 40 int at least for pve. I'm at NG+6 and i'm using this thing regularly.
>can continue it directly into WA combo with no delay
>ice explodes in a middle of it and deals like 400-500 damage plus triggers frostbite
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Can anyone tell me what time Ashes of Ariandel unlocked on steam for standalone purchasers/season pass owners?

And was it region specific or did it unlock at once for everyone at a certain time?
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If you guys had to get a Dark Souls related tattoo, what would you get?
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>>170895861
Aldrich's Chandelier or the full eye orb.
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>>170895861
The dark sign over the heart is probably the most common. But the best choice is Priscilla winking on the shoulder, in front of a heart
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>>170895861
A dark sign on the chest or on the back I guess? I would hate to have a character
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>>170893525
isn't SL90 to high for barracks?
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Path of the Dragon covenant symbol from DS1
The lines of grey and white are so damn intricate itd look amazing. Probably will get it one day
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>>170896076
>covenant symbol
You mean the eye?
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>>170896076
>>170895861

You know what i mean
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>>170895845
the ariandel painted world, accessed via a dude in the cleansing chapel

you unlock the undead matches aka dueling arena if you beat 1 boss, and a couple of minor sorceries, some decent weapons (and the BEST sharp weapon) and a few armor sets
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>>170895937
>Aldrich's Chandelier
The thing hes holding?
>>170895985
>>170895987
Yeah I kinda thought the Dark Sign would be the most common. I wouldnt get a characther myself as I would find it weird.

I was thinking about getting a bonfire on my forearm
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>>170895861
This across the chest
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>>170895861
Something something Priscilla boobs
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Thinking about replaying DS3 cause I only ever got one ending.

I need a fun build idea. I don't have the dlc unfortunately.
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>>170896226
Solaire pls, you're a worm, you have no chest
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>>170896173
>The thing hes holding?
I meant the covenant seal.
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/r/ that aldrich fanart of him being still somewhat human and ready to eat some folks
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>>170896131

Yes indeed. Its pretty as hell
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>>170896265
desert warrior
full caster
bowman
roman legionaire

there aren't a lot of builds out there
a lot of it boils down to "quality build, now grab literally any weapon and do what you want to do"
so just cosplay something
grab a theme and stick with it throughout the run

try a belmont run maybe, though that's less fun and more tedious frustration
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>>170896265
Twinblades
Have someone drop you the valorheart and crow quills (they are dlc weapons but you can still use them)
any black knight weapons
60 int with the moonlight greatsword
gundyr halberd
Pyromancy builds with Onyx Blade/gargoyle flamespear
Demon fist run
Full str with an Heavy mace or a Milwood axe

I advise you to look at the weapons list of Dark Souls 3, pick one and then decides what your build will be, according to the weapons
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>>170896320
Ah that makes more sense

>>170896226
Would rather get a sunlight medal


Tbh something like this would seem pretty neat
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>>170896372
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>>170896573
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>>170896573
Thanks, I love it. Also looks like something off the I Am A Hero manga.
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>>170896573
Do you also have the one that was made in black and white? He looks ay more inhuman there

It kinda looks like a concept art picture
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>>170896573
>aldrich's dress during the boss battle is actually hair
HMMMMMMMM
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>>170896797
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>>170896797
This one?
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>>170896851
>>170896856
No

its a single picture of him with his tail and shit, and only having half a face or something, he looks inhuman as fuck
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>>170897030
Pretty sure you mean this one.
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Infinite iframes killed medium shields in DS3. I can't remember the last time I've used one to defend from some attack.
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>>170891124
Lothric Lorian.
I've spent days cooping there as sl90-100 faith/int combo.
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>>170897181
yes thank you anon

It kinda reminds me of Tokyo Ghoul
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Interestingly, Aldrich's ashes show what he looked like apparently before eating the trap.

The blob, but with a maw with teeth all around it on one side, like the Sarlacc from RotJ.
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>>170896402
>>170896427

Thanks for the ideas guys. I didn't know people could drop DLC weapons for me. The crow quills look pretty interesting.

Might try something with those along with full caster or twin blades. I've spent too much time being a full STR build
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>>170897412
If you use the crow quills, use the sharp infusion and go full dex, it's insane, espacially the crit damage with the Hornet ring
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>>170897356
It's a broken skull completely surrounded by maggots.
There isn't even any ash, curiously enough.
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>>170896265
50 int+faith
Canvas left hand, chrystal chime right,
Snap freeze-lightning stake-Great Lightning spear
R1 L1 R1 L1 R1 etc
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>>170896402
quality build??
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requesting the "plz send help" soap sign.
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>>170897504
>Maggots, suppossedly its the undeads he would eat, that could not rot as they are undying.

The ones you encounter before entering the Cathedral, that pukes up maggots, are suppossedly undeads he ate
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>>170897648
half-half with str and dex in high numbers, add vigor and endurance as necessary
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>>170897504
That probably ties into the description of gnawing insects in the Deep
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>>170897762
I think that's just your usual symptoms of Deep/Abyss infestation. The examples are everywhere: gnawing, flymen in painted world, pontiff knight weapons and so on.
This element was added later in the series though, we don't really encounter any insects in AotA and Manus' cave IIRC.
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>>170897586
Can't get snap freeze unfortunately.
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>>170897912
The mobs in Oolacile have weird insect heads.
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>>170897504
I was under the impression that the maggots were his body. Look closely at the sludge in his boss room or his actual body and it's covered (filled?) with maggots.

The "sludge" is probably just something oozed by the maggots, while the maggots themselves form his actual body, allowing him to eat everywhere at once.
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>>170897912
The flies in the painted world aren't dark related, they're just flies. The world is rotting, not darkening.

The Pontiff Knight weapons are eaten through because of Aldrich. It's evidence that he passed through the streets of Irithyll ahead of the player. Similarly, Gnaw is a miracle associated with Aldrich's deep worship specifically, so the man-eating insect swarm is probably directly related to him.
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>>170898008
they are closer to keratinous cancer. certainly not an insect infestation
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What should I make as my next Character?
A Pyro or a miracle user

Ive never used magic before in any of the games
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>>170898132
No shut up, the flies are abyss monsters, the paint is made from humanity, priscilla is the furtive pygmy.
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>>170897912
That's because insects are associated with Chaos and Pyromancy in Dark Souls 1.
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>>170898317
PYRO
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>>170898317
99 STR SL 80
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>>170898317
Pyro is ez mod once you have the chaos bed vestige.
Faith is "useful" once you finished your character (except for the healing spell that are very useful but don't expect to do a lot of damage with offensive miracle until ng+ cycle)
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>>170898980
It's so fucking awesome to free aim CBVs
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>>170898859
>>170898970
>>170898980
I dont really care about ng+ cycles.
Its purely for pvp fun later on
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>>170897912

Insects are rot related, not dark related. Insects appear when shit starts to rot
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>>170899227
Then you should care for NG+ cycles lol

Especially the NG++ one.
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>>170899227
Then I guess faith might work for you, I ditch it because I don't liked it that much, you just need Rose of Ariandel, Sunlight Spear, and chuck it in their face
>>170899189
Fuck yeah it is, I felt like an asshole during the Brawl, as a Pyro, you win every time
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>>170899227
>>170898970
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>gimme warm and soft
>drop items that can be considered warm and/or soft
>gimme smooth and silky
>drop smooth and silky stuff
>picklepee and pumpmarump
what the fuck do i drop?
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>>170899249
What about the toxic field in the King's Garden? They make insect noises, and people say toxic and poison is somewhat connected with dark/deep.
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Reminder

-there is a divine dragon boss
-filianore bossfight is a fucking vagrant
-gael goes hostile so he can give painter the humanity filianore gives
-painter girl is ariamis' daughter
-ariamis was the furtive pygmy (yes, that means pygmy had a vagine
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>>170899646
Things that look like flutes or drums
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>>170899328
Why? You can easily farm to 120 on ng
I dont care about rings

>>170899332
I think wrath of the gods/force looks kinda fun
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>>170899646
All the items listed in the wikis.
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>>170899808
>I dont care about rings

If you go Pyro you'll want at least the sage ring +2. Anyway, if you really don't want to go through it, some anons here might have rings to spare to you.
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>>170899979
Ah its 10* virtual dex

Its not something im gonna cry about


It will only force me to play a bit better, as ill have to time my casts more
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Anyone on PS4/DS3 that wants to farm some things? I need like 20 sunlight medals for the platinum, but because I'm retarded I overleveled and being summoned is real slow
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Sadly, no. Thats not how itll work. Timing your casts allows them to HAVE an extra 10 frames. Makes your shit easily dodgable. The ring makes you an opponent. Without it, youre kinda just a dude throwing shit. And since pyro is probably your only trick, they know dodging is easy and your casts are finite.
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>>170900496
How overleveled are you? There are always people in need of help at NK.
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>>170900496
>>170900716
Or Friede for that matter. Unless you're like SL387 or something, you have no excuse.
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>>170895408
I'll trade you for a morion blade.
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>>170900771
The problem with being summoned for Friede is that hosts get cocky after you stunlock the first phase to death and get dumpstered before you can kill the other 2 for them. It takes ages to make any progress with medals because of that.
>host summons me, 2 other phantoms AND Gael
>gets instakilled in phase 3 by Friede's grab
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>>170900076
>Ah its 10* virtual dex
it's around 40. 10 is what you need to hit the cast speed cap with it
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>using a quickstep weapon
>opponent has their parry tool out
>they parry away while i'm just quickstepping in front of them, never attacking
this shit is too fun.
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Its 1:11am
Do i want to boot up souls or go to bed? Probably gonna play the game with an underpowered weapon for fun
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>>170901141
Go play guitar.
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>>170900895
Sure thing mate. The only catch is that I don't have the Morion Blade on the same character that I need the Silvercat Ring on, so I'll have to summon you twice. Put your red sign down at the first bonfire at High Wall. The password is dsg.
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>>170901201

Dont own a guitar, or id do that. I have a song i wanna sing on it, so.
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>>170900716
I'm around 200, actually getting a decent amount of summons at lorian right now, don't think I can consistently handle nameless king.

Still a frustrating experience, people summon 3-4 others and NPCs, giving the boss a huge health bar, or the host just gets one-shotted.
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>>170898980
from really wrecked pyromancy
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excuse me, why am i a ghost?
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Wait it just occurred to me:
Aquamarine Dagger has 3 listed FP costs: 8(2/3)
The L2 enters a stance, but as the gameplay video showed, entering the stance is free and does not cost FP.
While in the stance, R1 costs 2FP. This was also shown in the gameplay video
the 3FP cost is presumably the stance R2, which likely isn't particularly special compared to the stance R1 by its FP cost

So what is this 8FP cost listed outside of the brackets? What input would even trigger that cost, since R1, R2 and L2 are already taken?

It's quickstep. Dodging while in the WA stance must automatically trigger quickstep for an 8FP cost and keep you in the stance. When you think about it, this is kind of necessary not only by process of elimination (there's just no other buttons but roll that could be tied to that FP cost) but practically speaking. Toggling in and out of a stance (especially one that has a long startup animation like that) is clunky and cumbersome so for a weapon like a dagger where speed is literally its only strength, and for a WA concept like that where both WA moves are just normal attacks instead of one-off specials, the ability to dodge without breaking the stance is absolutely necessary for the concept to work. Otherwise being forced to roll at all would just kind of fuck over the WA completely, since you don't really have time to constantly be re-entering the WA when the animation takes as long as an attack would and, like all WA stance animations, can't be used to cancel out of a previous animation.

It's quickstep with an 8FP cost.
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>>170899654
toxic and poison are also related to chaos/pyromancy, in the first game.
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>>170901475
You're dead. You're not in Lost Izalith, you're in hell.
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>>170901469
>200

dun goofed, son.
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>>170899654
insects could breath fire and poison in blighttown
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>>170901332
Be right there
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>>170901543
>inb4 it's a special quickstep that allows you to basically phase around Vergil-style
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>>170901624
Yeah, I'm aware of that. I just thought that the ideas presented by this anon a few threads ago were pretty solid. Still a bit skeptical, though.

>>170901778
Aren't those man-insects just regular chaos demons?
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>>170897504
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>>170902062
GET VAATI ON THE PHONE
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>>170902062
What the FUCK are those things? Just rotten people put together?
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>>170902062
Fuck those things
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>>170902161
Yeah, they're just a haunted pile of rotting corpses. The vengeful dead of New Londo
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>>170902062
Imagine sticking your dick into one of those
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>>170902231
haha
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>>170901332
Still waiting here at the same bonfire
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>>170900938
Yes i meant 10 + from the original which has 30

Its too much of a hassle just for 10+
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>>170902312
Don't know what happened there, it took forever for your sign to pop up. Sorry about that. Thanks for the help man, really appreciate that ring. Would've had to restart the playthrough otherwise. Enjoy your Morion Blade shenanigans.
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>>170902231
must be very slushy
>>170902187
they are slow, nigh immobile and if you have a shield, the only attack that can hurt you is the vomit
>>170902438
oh. you want that 50 virtual dex though, you should get 20 if you dont plan on getting the ring
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Any chance there might be a patch changing lightning spears to do their full damage at range? Maybe reduce their overall damage a little, but I wish they didn't design them to be a melee spell.
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>>170902668
They're a lot more interesting as a melee spell to be honest, it gives faith a unique gimmick to separate it from the other casting schools. If lightning spear was a normal ranged spell it'd be no different from soul arrow or fireball.

It just needs better, or more efficient damage overall.
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does the hornet ring in dark souls 1 improve riposte damage?
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>>170902584
Cheers mate
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how to parry gwyn? goddamn it
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>>170895861
this way I could always claim it's Saurons eye if admitting I'm a dragonbro gets too awkward
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>>170902801
of course it does, what kind of question is this?
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>>170902974
stop bullies me
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>>170899646
give her stuff that you can make noise with
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>>170902796
It adds almost nothing to how interesting it is though. It just makes it shittier because they gut one of the main reasons anyone would choose a casting class, an that is having a ranged option. Having extra damage at melee range could be a neat bonus, but nothing more. You're better off using two r1's if you're up in soneones face anyway. Faith already has a way to distinct itself from other casting schools, it has healing and lots of AoE spells. And it would give more people a reason to use chimes as you won't have to be next to someone to deal enough damage for it to be worth your fp.
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>tfw parry Gwyn 4 times so he grabs my head and blows it up
not fair
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>>170903084
how's that supposed to help, you can make noise with anything
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>>170895861
Go big or go home
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I've been wanting to make a lightning knight build for a while but I don't have that much experience with pvp builds.
What should I change with it? is there any other good raw weapons to be buffed with lightning blade other than drakeblood or dragonslayer's axe?
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>>170903815
Lothric Knight Greatsword
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>>170903958
That needs more strength though which means I'll have to sacrifice more endurance which isn't optimal when using ultra weapons.
I mean I could technically go all the way up to 142 if I want to max out stats but that feels kinda cheap considering 120 is what most players is at.
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>you parry the final DS1 boss to death
>he takes sweet revenge in DS3
I love SoC.
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>>170903815
you're going to need sage+1
better get life+3 instead of favor
drop end to 27, get more faith, 60 would be best. you could probably switch classes for better results
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>>170904153
Isn't 15 dex + regular sage the cap for casting speed? Maybe I remember it wrong.
Life ring would be good yeah to get a little more beefy.
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>>170904145
>hitting him while he's down in Curved Sword form
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>>170903815
>raw drakeblood
>when heavy at min reqs does more damage
woow
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How the fuck do I kill the beasts like the one on the bridge to Irithyll?
this game is a piece of shit bloodborne copy-paste with enemies on meth and you being slow as fuck
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>>170904837
Hit their nose
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>>170904528
only 2handed. but if you only twohand, might as well just have 12 str, since he's stat-starved. although if he wants to mix up 1 and 2hand, he should probably go heavy
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can't wait to twink on the GOTY editionfags who fell for the prepare to die meme
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>>170904837
As with any other large, bestial foe, you have to learn their timing and range and not fuck it up.
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>>170904837
>you being slow as fuck
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>>170905081
timing? this cunt attacks multiple times a second in every fucking direction
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>>170904837
>bloodborne
hah
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>>170904837
The player character in DaS3 is hardly any slower compared to Good Hunter, the only benefit BB dodges have compared to rolls is that they have less wakeup frames.
The overall movement speed, unlocked rolling, weapon swing speed in BB are pretty much the same.
Acquire decency.
>>170905237
>playing soulshit without online features
>playing soulshit without what made the series popular in the first place
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>>170905570
this is the biggest bullshit pcuck damage control post I ever read
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>>170895861
Darksign around my asshole.
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Any tried doing a Farron Flashsword only run?

I like the idea of casting it with the Crystal Chime to look like you're swinging a lighsaber
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>>170905630
I'm not one though.
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>>170905947
It's terrible.
Flashsword's efficiency in terms of FP cost to damage is fucking terrible so you're constantly swigging blue juice while very slowly killing things. Small mobs generally take at least 2 more swings to kill than a normal straightsword would take and big things are downright tedious to chip away at. Like every other sorcery, it requires endgame stats, two rings and an offhand damage amp to even start to approach reasonable levels of damage. You'll be in the catacombs hitting skeletons for 90 damage a pop with a +6 catalyst and 180 spell buff.

You also don't get the crystal chime until archives, so it's super endgame. In fact, I think even if you went in with 100% blue estus, you wouldn't have enough casts of flashsword to clear an area without intentionally running past and skipping enemies. Fromsoft seemingly designed it to be an endgame pvp option and gave no consideration towards it's early-midgame usability or its pve value.
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>>170905947
Distortion2 did it, it is on his YT channel
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>>170906256
>13th month of 2003

Nice try.
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Been trying to kill Gwyn for an hour and I can't seem to parry him like a bitch.
I must be getting old (22)
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>>170903572
yeah but stuff like bells, drums and bombs is better at it
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>>170905148
Is it so hard to understand that some enemies can attack in combos? Because surely you have faced enemies that attack immediately after their last attack. What do you usually do in those situations?
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Should I be +7 or 8 for Lothric castle PvP?
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>>170906530
Just tank him with havel/stone set
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>>170906865
+9
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>>170906458
Appreciated, I think I'll start the run and see just how miserable it turns out
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>>170906919
That's not swordsmanship.
I already killed him using soltaire. But I want to kill him legit.
I'm weaking black iron. Why doesn't it resist his fire enough?
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>>170906865
It hardly matters since you'll start getting matched with +10's the second you Chunk your weapon, and anyone who isn't doing the Dancer skip will already have a +6 or +7 minimum.
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>>170907121
>I'm weaking black iron.
Is it +5?
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>>170907121
Have you upgraded your armor? That might help.
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>>170907121
>want to kill him legit
>uses the crutch method
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>>170907269
>>170907279
I upgraded it to full the moment I got it in anor londo
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>want to get Gargoyle Halberd
>it's a RNG drop
How do I go about getting this thing the most efficient way?
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>>170907309
>parrying
>crutch method
What's more legit than swordsmanship?
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>>170907415
Kill first bell gargoyle, if it didn't drop kys and try again
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Ariamis, the furtive pygmy, has three children:

Ariandel, the eldest

Artorias, a knight of gwyn

The as-yet unnamed painter Ariela, youngest daughter and the goddess of the forlorn

Ariamis fractured her soul and gave it to the hollows to ease their suffering, and then created the painted world for those who still could not find purpose
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>>170907415
collectors edition
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>>170907507
>Ariamis fractured her
>her
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>>170907415
Fight the gargoyles, kill one, if it doesn't drop then bone out.

Or just use Collector's Edition.

>>170907419
Using your roll button to dodge his attacks. That also reduces the damage you take from his attacks to zero instead of tanking them head-on from failed parries.
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>>170907507
[citation needed]
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>>170907507
>Ariamis, the furtive pygmy

Look at this retard and laugh, obviously Priscilla and Velka are the pygmy, split in two representing the duality of man (black and white, as seen on the humanity sprite) and locked away in the painted world to prevent them stirring a human uprising.
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>>170907185
>>170906969
So I can just pump my way to 9.
What about SL? 70?
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>>170907760
Anything from 70 to 120 will get activity, since you'll run into people who are leveling normally on their first playthrough, casuals overleveling for their first playthrough, and people running through NG+ and upward.
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>>170907609
thanks BUT I PARRIED HIM LIKE A BITCH HAHAHA
LORD OF CINDER MY ASS.
What do I do now?
kindle that bonfire or leave?
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>>170907984
Cool, I want to keep my SL as low as possible since i'm on NG.
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what's this parry fetish?
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>>170908324
You need to be """skilled""" to land parries
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>>170907984
i thought you couldn't find people in ng+ if you're still in ng
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>>170908187
leave and say hello to the primordial hydra
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>>170907507
That would imply that Artorias has human/dark origin which is explicitly stated to be false and was revealed to be the reason he got so fucked up by Manus
Gael's dialogue implies that the goddess of the forlorn has the power to grant fire for Ariandel, when the girl needs to see fire ie cannot grant it.
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>>170907507
You've got it all wrong.

"Pygmies" are just humans. It's what you might call their true name, as humankind was created by the furtive pygmy in his small and weak image. Humans are just pygmies with humanity (the dark soul).

"The Ringed City" is New Londo. It was given to the Four Kings, who at the time of Gwyn's reign, ruled four kingdoms of loyal humankind to be essentially the capital of godfearing mankind. The Goddess worshiped there, who's depicted in statues all around New Londo, is Gwyn's youngest daughter. The city is so-called "ringed" because it was effectively the capital of the Way of White before the Four Kings met Kaathe and turned against the Gods.

Being remains of a kingdom from the very first age, it's at the very bottom of the Dreg Heap, suspended over the Abyss created by Manus, which rests beneath both Oolacile and New Londo. As what essentially became the capital of the undead and the home of darkness itself, New Londo has been preserved through the ages at the bottom of the Dreg Heap as the defacto capital of dark-worship and of hollows.

The Purging Monument itself alludes to the fact that New Londo's seal was presided over by healers who could cure curses.

In all likelyhood, "Londor" isn't actually a single place or kingdom. The Sable Church doesn't reside in the Ringed City. Rather, Londor is an idea, a pledge of pilgrimage to New Londo, a hollow equivalent to Aliyah. Londor exists within the teachings of the Sable Church and in every hollow that adheres to it, and their ultimate goal is to complete the pilgrimage to their lost capital and reclaim it, and the abyss beneath it, as the seat of power for their coming Dark Age.

In other words, TRC is about the player character revisiting New Londo after eons and finding it under new management. While Anor Londo has decayed to ruin since the events of DaS1, New Londo has thrived and grown into what we know call "The Ringed City"
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>>170905148
Have you tried acquiring proficiency?
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>>170908503
Okay. Why are they bowing to me though?
What just happened?
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Any tips on Pontiff Sullycahn for a two hand greatsword build?
First playthrough, black knight sword and enough strength for ultra grt swrds


this guys combos are so lengthy and question is the block with sword command effective at all against large opponents?
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>>170908424
but you can't parry most monsters. You can only parry humans. Checkmate
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>>170907415
It's a guaranteed drop from the ones in anor londo if it doesn't drop from the ones on top of the church
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>>170907415
why don't you get a greatsword instead of halberd?
Spears and their cousins are petty weapons.
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>>170907609
>bone out
Nah, just quit to menu
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>>170908660
what does a dark age mean? does it mean those literal dark ages?
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>>170908665
Stay close to him and dodge, attack him once he finished his combo and dodge again.
Also when he invoke his ghost/stand/double try to kill it, he will summon it again and it will leave you very large attack window to destroy his life bar.
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Why is the Nameless King fight so fucking good? I mean, its one of the few times you even fight a God at his full strength.
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why are trees a central part of the origins of everything
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>>170908660
>>170909109

Congratulations, you became the Lord of Dark, the one to rule over Humanity's coming age. What exactly that means, though, no one fucking knows, which is exactly why the old gods feared it.
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>>170909535
They feared it because it meant that fucking skinny ass nerd Pygmy won. Him of all the Lords.
Unless he's actually Manus.
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>>170909504
>fight a God at his full strength

Debatable. We can see NK is clearly hollow, which means his soul's power has diminished. And this is assuming he left his father's side at his full power; I can hardly imagine Gwyn not coming to blows with his son over such a split, which could have cost him a lot of strength in injuries.
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>>170893525
Elias?
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>>170909768
True, but he's had years to heal, and Gywn himself was no slouch when he was hallow. I imagine NK has at least half his strength when you meet him, and combine that with his mounts soul that he uses in the fight, he was probably at near strength.
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>>170909504
>full strength

He's hollowed to shit, far past his prime dragon hunting days. He turned into a wimpy SJW and sided with the dragons because "they dindu nuffin" and lost his power level.
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Someone give me a quick ru through on how to create a pyro in ds3

What stats should I go for?
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>>170910056
Que?
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>>170910106
He was just doing what his dad did with that weirdo albino dragon. Gywn is such a hypocrite.
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>>170908608
Also the symbolism of the 'ring' and the way of white is that humankind are dark beings with a an outer-shell of light.

That is to say, their 'human' form is a product of fire. Humans have life and death and light because Gwyn used the power of fire to seal the darkness of humanity. The human body is a fire-based seal meant to contain the dark soul. This is what Aldia meant when he said "men assumed a fleeting form" when Gwyn "banished dark." The white ring representing the WoW is empty because they worship and focus solely on the ring itself, the 'fire' aspect of human existence, and eschew the dark side entirely.

Hollowing is caused by that seal weakening. When the power of fire declines, it's no longer strong enough to keep human's inner-dark in check. They lose the ability to die because dying itself is a property of fire, and their bodies slowly hollow because life is also a property of fire, leaving them in the in-between state of hollowing. The Darksign is a representation of this, with the ring of fire giving way to the dark center.

Even the name 'hollowing' alludes to this. The essence of their being shifts from the ring of light to the dark interior, the hollow middle of the ring. Of course, it's not really 'hollow' but that's the whole point.
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>>170910223
att
int
fai
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How viable is sorcery/pyromancy/miraclancery in general without using ANY related rings and just their best catalysts and scaling weapons? From what I'm hearing, pyromancy seems to be the best well rounded magic, but requires heavy stat investment but I'm not sure what to pick.
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>>170910106
The dragons didn't do anything. Meanwhile you see knights running around with huge "dragonslayer" bows shooting huge fucking spears. How dragons supposed to withstand that?
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>>170910493
I'm asking about DaS3
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>>170910521
Lets be honest, this is all Seath's fault.
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So who wants to bet that the 'abyss dragon' was originally being developed as a boss for the painted world and they just recoloured his frost aura and ice crystals to shove him into TRC when Bamco forced from to release the first half of the DLC early
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>>170909535
What happens if I link the fire? Do I become a hollow like gwyn so soltaire can kill me later to link the fire again?
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>>170910250
I still find it plausible that NK sided with the dragons to protect someone dear to him. Like, say Gwyn's wife was taken by the Everlasting Dragons, which made him go apeshit, but over the course of the war (because it couldn't have been won in a day), NK realized that his father's kill 'em all policy was putting his mother in danger. Tragic shit like that.
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>>170910493
Rings are only necessary if you rely on only/majority casting. Though having them do help a lot in terms of dmg. If anything, sage ring is even more important.

Pyromancy is good at 30, 30. Many of its spells (chaos) also do not have requirements outside of attunement slots.

What kind of character?
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>>170910669
I always assumed Gywn's wife had an affair with a dragon, resulting in Yorshka. NK, wanting to protect both his baby sister and mother, would side with the dragons to make sure Gywn wouldn't be able to wipe them all out.
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>>170910645
The only concrete thing we see is that you fucking explode when you link the fire. It is plausible to assume, though, that you become a hollow shell for the Flame to use as its avatar, given what we've seen with the Soul of Cinder.
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For the anon asking a few threads ago, a "tactical insertion" is when someone travels to a spot far from a bonfire to place their summon sign, knowing that someone who needs help is waiting for them at that location.
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>>170910645
Well, since it sounds like you managed to save Solaire, he's probably going to link the fire a few minutes after this, since his summon sign was right outside.
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>>170899698
Not doubting you on any of this, but I've been out of town for the last few days and missed this. Pls explain?

Also, do we know Ariamis was female?
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So, Gywnevere moved from AL, met a king, and had Lothric and Lorian, right? This might explain why Lothric was being groomed as a Lord at a young age, so Gywnevere could keep her fathers age alive just a little longer.
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>>170910965
He's just pulling shit out of his ass. None of this has been even remotely confirmed.
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>>170910613
Seath did nothing wrong
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>>170910765
good melee build with a decent quick ranged attack to punish healing or spam rolling
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>>170911149
>quick ranged attack
>>>/bloodborne/
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>>170910637
Nah, I think it was originally planned for release in the second half of the DLC, which became TRC. All the stuff in the Millwood descriptions was put there to foreshadow its coming presence. After all, why would the Millwood Knights' nemesis be drawn into the painting, when the place is supposed to be a calm haven for the Knights?
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>>170910894
dammit. I have to kill him but the game ended
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>>170911601
The millwood knight lore was very obviously slapped-together last minute.
The whole reason that AoA even had an army of greatbow-wielding str/fth knights in a tall guard tower was to set up for an ice dragon encounter. They knew they couldn't meet the deadline with it when the DLCs were split and changed the millwood descriptions to allude vaguely to an abyss dragon instead and replaced the actual fight with the slapped-together Gravetender
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>>170910613
it's not his fault he was born naked
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@the morne's hammer shills from last thread

This shit is slow as fuck and eats stamina. The only good thing about it is it's WA but is hardly good if your opponents seen it before and know not to overcommit or use tears of denial which completely negates it's surprise one shot potential.

Also it can't even be used at low levels because of it's heavy stat investment which means you're very unlikely to get any one shots with the WA unless you are doing an honorabru duel.

Extremely situational weapon. Good for team battles and pressuring gankers I guess. Makes an OK secondary weapon to swap to.
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>>170911149
that's called offhand xbow or throwing firebombs m8
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>>170911049
>So, Gywnevere moved from AL, met a king, and had Lothric and Lorian, right?

Maybe? Again, Dark Souls lore. Shit's vague and could be interpreted numerous ways. It seems to me, though, that the generational gap was a bit wider than that. Like, I get the sense that, even assuming Gwynevere is indeed the queen who came to Lothric from someplace, she just helped start the royal line.
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>>170911709
Even if Solair dies, someone else will come link the fire before it fades, and the cycle will continue.
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>>170911086
The vagrant thing seems extra outlandish, but fair enough
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>>170911830
Did he have to be such a dick about it though? I mean, I get it, but did he really have to kill all his dragon pals?
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>>170912206
They called him a bitch to his face.
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>>170912239
How could he have known that? Nigga has no eyes.
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>>170911049
>Gywnevere moved from AL, met a king, and had Lothric and Lorian, right?

doesn't the lore imply that Lorian is from a long line of people bred to link the fire? I mean DaS3 takes place waaaaay after DaS1 and 2 after all.

She'd putting on the aeons by this point and the only reason I dont question it, is because Aldrich managed to eat Gwyndolin
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>tfw bad connection

Reaction parrying is LITERALLY impossible because their attack frames start sooner than my PC registers it.
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What was the most recent version of DSFix that worked with the GFWL version?
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>>170912397
predict their attack frames
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>>170911889
The value of it is basically that the WA is strong and versatile as fuck. It's one of the fastest WAs available while also being an AoE explosion with built-in perseverance. You can cast it on reaction to a rapier thrust and force them to bounce off your startup, earning an unavoidable instability hit. Some other weapons also deflect off of perseverance and so get fucked by morne's WA.

The biggest downside to morne's is the weight and stat reqs, which make it impractical on all but a specialized sl 120 build. It pays for that in having what is very likely the best overall WA in the game.

The WA actually comes out faster than a standard GH R1, which is part of what makes it such an amazing tool for trading, baiting and so on.
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>>170912308
He's got eyes on the inside, anon.
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>>170912308
Ain't even got legs.
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>>170912764
he's got magic so he doesn't need legs
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>>170912764
we even have this crystal shit that makes us double immortal
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>>170912764
Being a dragon is amazing~
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>>170912890
why can I sense trapfapping homolust in your comment?
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>there is no stat combination where the assassin will be better than the mercenary, sorcerer or pyromancer

it isn't fair
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>>170913005
Its a reference to a DS video, anon.
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>>170912337
Yes the Lothric line is predicated on linking the fire. Doesn't necessarily disprove Gwynevere being the Queen of Lothric though does it?
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>>170913050
put all points into endurance and dex and backstab everyone with a dagger. How do you get more assassin than that?
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>>170913005
>he is unaware
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9x_koRZ2bA
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>>170913107
I find it fucked up that she just left her daughter though. Do you think she knew what Sullyvahn eventually did to her?
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>>170913005
>he hasn't seen Plague's video

Amazing.
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So as a pyro i need to upgrade in int, faith and att.

How much in each?
Should i put as many points as possible in att to start with, so i can spam more?
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>>170913226
yes att is more important than int and fai. Upgrade int and fai evenly I think. I know nothing about ds2 and 3 tho. INT wiki reader here
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>>170913179
I'm talking about optimizing starting classes stat allocation

the assassin always loses because he has one more point in faith and luck than merc, the two stats you least want on a dex/int build
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>>170913226
Depends. Are you going for a pure caster style? Or are you something more spellsword-y?
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>>170913183
>How's Cirian doing?
>Still hot. Check out this new puppy.
I love this video.
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>>170913183
>This shit is fucked. I'll go find some more dudes to set on fire.
Fucking Frampt.
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>>170913186
Are you talking about Yorshka being imprisoned or Gertrude being locked up?
Yorshka is her sister, so you're probably talking about Gertrude. Well did we know for sure Sullyvhan was directly responsible for locking her up? Regardless I think Gwynevere knew it, it probably added to the many reasons why she left.
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>>170913578
I think he's talking about the theory that the Dancer is one of her daughters, since her head wear is only given to those of direct bloodline to the Old Gods.
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It's been more than a year since I've last played das3. I have to say that the game has improved quite a bit since then. My framerate seems to be more stable now and I have not crashed at all. Also, the default key binds are not bad at all. They're different than those in das1, but once you get used to them, they're quite good.

I have one question, though. What's the point of ember mode? I don't play online so I have no need to summon or be summoned by anybody, but I still want to be invaded by NPCs. Does ember mode allow that or can i be non-embered and still get invaded by NPCs?
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>>170904145
This was bullshit the first time it happens.
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>>170913851
Ohhh okay
Yeah maybe she left to get help or something
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>>170913870
Embered mode prevents the 30% health cut you normally have. It also opens you up to invasions (even NPC ones only work while embered).
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>>170913870
>can i be non-embered and still get invaded by NPCs?

It's not impossible, but it might as well be. The way it works with invasions is that those with phantoms in their worlds get the highest priority for invasions (if they've used the Dried Finger, they get even higher), meaning anyone entering the invasion queue will go to those worlds first. Simply being embered puts you in a lower bracket, and again, being unembered basically means you've no chance.
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>introduce a new better parry system in BB
>go back to a shittier one in ds3

what did memezaki mean by this?
where's my ranged estus parry?
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I just finished dark souls 1 with pure melee combat and I don't know if I should play it again or move on to dark souls 2. It would be boring to play the same game again right?
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>>170914293
Why would you answer a question if you don't know what you're talking about?

You cannot be invaded while unembered, neither by players nor NPCs. If you are offline and want to face NPC invasions, you must be embered.
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>>170914648
if you do das 2 try out hexing
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I want to strangle the person who put two dogs in the Capra Demon arena.
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>>170914832
gain dog ring
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>>170914571
>mfw people think Memeazaki or From in general spends any time balancing the PvP mechanics when making and designing these games
BB had more "thought" (lmao) in it's PvP mechanics because the NPC hunter duels were part of the core PvE experience.
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>>170914789
make my decision for me and justify it please
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>>170913226
For what game?
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>>170915236
no
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>>170915298
please tell me what to play
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The fuck is Ghru Rotshield and why doesn't it even have a wikia page?
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>>170915525
It's a secret boss you fight after killing Morne's greathammer
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>>170915508
go outside and bathe in the sun
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who told the humans about lightening?
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>>170915646
But I killed gwyndolin
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>>170915703
Gwyn
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stretched bois
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>>170915703
old father loyd
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>>170915917
That's ALLfather Lloyd, you fucking Carim heretic.
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>>170915998
some father boyd?
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>>170914062
>(even NPC ones only work while embered)
This sucks. Thank you for answering, anon.
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>>170915821
no who told him?

>>170915917
>>170915998
>>170916047
shut up heretics
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>>170915703
Could be anyone, I'd guess at Gwyn himself or nameless
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>>170915821
gwyn is a pygmy according to this video.
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>>170916201
>>170916219
https://youtu.be/u0yuDfcOhvA?t=475
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>>170916118
Liiightning
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>>170916201
Actually NK seems the most likely.
In DaS1, the only sources of lightning damage are limited to Anor Londo weaponry (which is closed off to ordonary humans) and the miracles awarded to warriors of sunlight by NK's altar.

I think the only source of lightning damage in the game that isn't locked behind Sen's gate or the sunbros is the demon's spear you can buy from Shiva, but that's probably an oversight since those demons are only found in AL anyways.

What makes that kind of interesting is that when you realize lightning miracles were disseminated to mankind via NK and pretty much exclusively available through his worship, then Drangleic, a kingdom of drake-taming, dragonriding casterknights whose miracles are exclusively lightning-based, becomes kinda interesting.
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>>170911049

No, gwynevere married some faggot named flann. The queen of lothric is most likely rosaria, though, since she has to be related to gwynevere and rosaria gives bountiful sunlight
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>>170895861
I though of a bonfire on the back of my neck
Or some Pontiff/Irithyll design somewhere on the back
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>>170916624
>>170916201
>>170916219
>>170915821
>>170915703

So we're all talking about lightning and shit, what about the drakes in the valley that spit lightning?
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>>170916886
they're dragonbros

map wise it's actually pretty much directly above ash lake.
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>>170916624
Yeah I was thinking about nameless based on his rewards for warriors of sunlight, iirc it's what I'd thought way back was the reason for his removal from history, destruction of his alters and his outcast status, almost a Prometheus type figure
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Does fighting the Ancient Dragon accrue any sin?

Also does anyone have any tips for beating Vendrick? inb4 'git gud'
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>>170916995
The Pygmy is Dark Souls' ironic Prometheus.
He created humankind and then instead of giving them fire, gave them dark.
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>>170917024
>beating Vendrick?

get yourself some giant souls and dont wear armor, you should be rolling through his attacks.
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>>170917069
but Quelana is already the prometheus of the soulsverse by giving them pyromancy
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How do we fix it?
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>>170917069

Did you eer stop n think the pygmy gave man fire, and gwyn sealed it off? Ring city knights had their swords sealed
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>>170917102
>get yourself some giant souls
I have four. The Ancient Dragon's the last one still out there.
>and dont wear armor, you should be rolling through his attacks.
i-frames don't increase when you're naked, do they? is this a kink thing?
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>>170916886
Why couldn't they beat the dragons then?
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>>170917024
I dont think I had to roll last time I did vendrick, stick to one of his sides (can't remember which, you'll figure out which one it is), have giant souls (or don't) and then chip away a hit or two from almost complete safety
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>>170917245
Make it a pyromancy.
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So why is this thing considered bad? Skill seems like an excellent punisher for usual roll antics.
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Why did Gwyn go fight demons?
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>>170917024
>Also does anyone have any tips for beating Vendrick?
Stay on his left leg
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>>170917246
well humanity is basically the best fuel source for flame, wouldn't surprise me if they somehow have the infinite humanity that firekeepers have and then use it as fuel for their own flame.

>yfw gwyn sealed the ringed city knights away because they'd be way better at lightning the first flame than him or the gods, but he didn't want them to steal his thunder.
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>>170917245
by not using it
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>>170916624

Lightning runs in the family. NK aided the Dragons so he didn't have reason to disseminate Lightning spells. If anything he would have prevented people from getting them.
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>>170917443
Its not? Its not the best either though.
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>>170917278
>i-frames don't increase when you're naked

no just with Agility

it's a git gud thing
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I wanna ask gwyn how it feels like to be a bitch when he gets PARRIED haha
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So does this confirm that nailpolish is canon?
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>>170916886

Drakes as Wyverns are descendants of Everlasting Dragons, as are pretty much all of the dragon-like things we fight in the games. Seathe is the only actual Everlasting we fight, and he's deformed.
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>>170917632
Magic=science
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>>170917691
Kalameet.
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>>170917245
Remove steady chant because it's the most lazy idea since Princess' Guard covenant.
The "weapon art" instead casts an altered version of a spell.
Dark Edge instead makes a horisontal swing.
Farron Flashsword gets stabs.
And same applies to every spell, because magic is shit and deserves to be better. Why the fuck can't spells have their own R2s?
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>>170917447

Demons were running wild because of the Bed of Chaos and tearing shit up.
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>>170917691
What about the little guy at ash lake?
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>>170917606
Parryshitting is the worst
Also youre fighting the burnt up remains of a god that's been spending his time as a candle for the flame that lights up the known world
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>>170917691
Sinh
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>>170917245
Make it horizontal to some degree or an modest aoe dark splash and give it a faster cast speed.
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>>170914571
It's called Exploding Bolt from an off-hand Arbalest. Or Vestiges.

>>170917278
Lower equip load = longer roll distance at certain percentages. Longer roll distance = easier to get out of the way of some of his attacks.
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>>170917832
not him but you dont fight him, he cant even be killed because he is a genuine everlasting dragon.
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>>170917802
Because some weapons use spells as their r2s.
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>>170917918
I didn't know exploding bolt/vestiges put hosts into a repostable position so I can 1shot them with a hornet yhorm hit
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>>170918010
You can cut his tail off though.
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>>170918010
All the other dragons got killed despite being double immortal
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>>170917739

Kalameet is also a descendent, my friend. Not an Everlasting.

>>170917832

I only said Everlasting that we fight. I don't remember what the consensus on the Ash Lake one is, though.

>>170917915

Descendent. Never called an Everlasting.
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In DaS1, to lower the FTH requirement for the solar altar, is putting my sign down and getting summoned the only way to do so ? Or does summoning Solaire also lower the FTH requirement ?
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>>170918135

There's a difference between immortal and invulnerable.
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>>170918148
Kalameet and The Gaping Dragon are both the genuine article. The ash lake dragon is also such.
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>>170918136
>All the other dragons got killed
>what are undead dragons and dragonbutts in izalith

You cannot kill what does not live, they're just considerably worse for wear after being broken down to rubble (see ringed knights using dragon heads as personal flamethrowers) or stuffed full of nitos disease ridden farts
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>>170918148
Kalameet is never referred to as a descendant, he is directly called the last of the ancient dragons in item descriptions.
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>>170918270
Gaping dragon is a mutated freak baby tho
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>>170917453
Not in a million years.
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>finally hit rank 2 in all covenants in DaS3

Any sonybros want the rewards or +2 rings? I've got em all.
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>>170918270

They are both specifically called descendents.
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>>170917632
i wanna lick them.
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>>170918329
>streaming your games

Enjoy losing them as soon as they shut it down and even worse latency
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>>170918116
Exploding bolt lets you get in free damage and prevents them from healing back to full health. It's as good as a max HP reducer if you can get it off consistently.

Vestiges is even better in that it outright cancels any health they healed.
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>>170918270
Sinh is also very likely one just by virtue of the toxic inside him (which is stated to be not his own attribute) being powerful enough to destroy an entire civilization.

There's only one being that contended with dragons and possesses toxic that strong
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>>170918329
NO
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>>170918365
He's still an everlasting dragon.
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>>170918446
still cheaper than buying a PS4 solely for BB
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>>170918329
>sprint, jump and roll right into Greatwood's nutsack and hit him with a point blank lightning spear
>pops like waterballoon
I don't mind faith being so shit if I get to look this goddamn cool.
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>>170918713
Lightning spear should have a running cast animation like flashsword
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>>170918329
/v/ must be on fire.
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>>170918270
>>170918365
>>170918563

Dragon King Greataxe

This axe, one of the rare dragon weapons,
is formed by the tail of the Gaping Dragon,
a distant, deformed descendant of the
everlasting dragons.
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>>170918226
pls respond
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>>170918568
Not if you don't already own a pc it isn't. A ps4 is 264 freedoms used.
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In just two weeks the first /dsg/ thread tourney is starting. On March 25th, 2pm PST a PC tournament will be held prior the release of The Ringed City DLC.
Participants will be matched up with others who sign-up and fight for the claim to be /dsg/'s champion. The winner and runner-ups will receive prizes including Steam games and being better than everyone else who fought.

Sign-up sheet is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform?usp=sf_link

Sign-ups close on 22nd of March, 2pm PST with brackets announced shortly after.

For the sake of organization either your Steam ID or a Discord ID will be needed to sign-up. If using only one, Steam IDs will be organized via that messages there and Discord users can join the accompanying server in the link above to ensure we don't have last minute drop-outs with no explanation.

RULES:
-Maximum Soul Level of 125 allowed. Someone with CE open will be monitoring all players to make sure this rule and others aren't broken.
-The starting location will be High Wall, followed by Farron Keep bridge and ending at the Darkmoon Tomb.
-Fights are best of 3
-Each fight is 2 minutes long, the one with the most % health left at the end will win if both are alive.
-Gargoyle Flame Spear, Washing Pole, Throwing Knives, Anri's Straight Sword, Ethereal Oak Shield, Ancient Dragon Greatshield, and Fire Surge are banned.
-Only two Ashen Estus sips per fight, any more and your win will not count, initiating a rematch. Do this twice and you are disqualified
-All Regen items and spells are banned to disencentize passive shittery. This includes Sun Princess Ring, Blessed Weapon, Spells like Bountiful Sunlight, the weapons/shields mentioned above with innate regen and anything infused with Blessed.
-Normal FC rules still apply such as no healing items. Fight rotation will be determined once brackets are set.

Discord link: https://discord.gg/5PBsgsV
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>>170918920
>not already owning a self-built monster PC for running DaS3 smoothly at 60 fps at max settings

wew lad
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>>170918931
Nobody cares about your faggot tournament with your retarded banlist

T. Lucky Elite Knight w/ blessed sword
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>>170918931
fuck off with your spam
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>>170919042
I own a ps4 and a switch so I can play games I like.

That is my answer to your autism.
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>>170919176
fuck off with your spam
>>
just started my adventure of DS3.
why don't we hollow on death?
what's up with the fire on my armour?
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>>170919283
and just how many of those games on the ps4 are exclusive?

no comment on the switch, since nintendo has always had good shit.
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>>170919519
you aren't a normal undead, you're an ashen one, basically you tried to link the fire in the past and got turned to ash as a result because you where too much of a scrub.
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>>170919519
>why don't we hollow on death?
Those branded by the dark sign possess something... quite special
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>>170919538
Bloodborne, which l care about much more than max specs ds3.
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>>170918897
That is the only way, they lowered it to 25 specifically for losers like you and you don't even have that, what use are lightning spears to you?
Be thankful they're it's not 50 like it used to be, fag
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>>170918306

Twice called an ancient dragon, but never called an Everlasting, which was the title of the Dragons at the time.
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Anyone know what level you should be to get summoned with the Watchdogs of Farron?

I'm level 115 and this shit ain't happening, the mobs have refused to drop even one swordgrass in the hour I farmed there.

So I guess I'll just reset my levels, but to what?
Late 30s maybe, higher?
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>>170917632
Best looking vidya feet.
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>>170920040
Are dragons referred to as everlasting in any in-game source besides the opening cutscene?
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what's better if I just care about beating the game?
Dark souls 2 black armour edition or scholar of the first sin?
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>>170920148
I got constant action at 25, and I mean constant. Couldn't even turn my shit in.
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>>170920328
What weapon upgrade level?
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>>170918329
But you need a ps4 to play??
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>>170920323
What do you even mean?
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>>170920323
Don't know what black armor edition is but Scholar of the first sin makes the game better in every way.
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>>170920040
>Twice called an ancient dragon

oh so you mean like how the dragon covenant items all call them ancient dragons and never everlasting?
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>>170920410
+2
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>>170920258

Multiple, one of which is the one calling Gaping a descendent of them.
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>>170920704
But it doesn't
It has its own pros and cons, I'd almost always always recommend SOTFS regardless, but it most certainly not a complete improvement
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>>170920704
okay thanks
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>>170920894
I only care about pve till I end the game. I probably won't play after that. What do you think?
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>>170920773

Well, consider the fact that the one in Ash Lake is ALSO a descendent but was supposedly around at the time, what do you think?
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>>170919986
>playing mostly offline makes you a loser
Oh I didn't know that.
Are you mad because you maxed that covenant when the requirement was still 50 ?
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>>170920323
Wait, isn't Black Armor Edition just vanilla DaS2 in a metal case, with an OST CD included ?
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>>170921217
it is pretty fuzzy for being made of stone
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>>170921269
yes is it good? or is the last version better?
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>>170921040
If you don't care about MP at all that balances it out a bit, because old DkS2 is fairly close to death
I'd still probably recommend SOTFS unless you can get 2 + the DLC cheaper, then it's basically down to personal preference about some shit like stupid enemy spawns or things like item location changes, a few drop tweaks and some other inane tweaks
Dks2 itself got the SOTFS update, the different version just has an online community and odd changes
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>>170921350

It is, it's a deformed one for sure, as all the descendents seem to be, but it is an ancient dragon that seems to have maintained immortality through genetics, but not an original Everlasting.
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>>170920234
looks like the perfect afterlife.
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>>170921497
well it's also called stone dragon in game, so it probably has scales of immortality (hence why we cant kill it)
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>>170921224
No because helping losers beat gargoyles was enjoyable to me
It's 25, are you a FTH build, why do you want to join a faith based co-op covenant if you don't do them?
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>>170913318
I kinda want to able to use witch locks and some few weapons, pure caster seems boring as fuck
>>170915279
DS3
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>>170921640
not him, but all clerics/faith builds want that lightening spear
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>>170921720
So he should be wanting to get a few points of FTH then?
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>>170921720
Lightning Spear already requires 20 Faith. 5 more points in Faith shouldn't be an issue.
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How often do you guys replay dark souls 1?
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why did they change the dragonoid design?

it was perfect as it was
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>>170922251
Usually once a year, and I begin to hate the game more with every replay.
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>>170921807
why not max it to 40 and upgrade the main weapon to divine so it scales with faith?

>>170922048
yeah
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>>170922251
never
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>>170921718
In that case, FTH and INT are your big ones, since they control how powerful your casts are. ATN is only as important as the number of casts and spell slots you want. To give some sense of where you're headed, Great Chaos Fireball takes two slots and gets four casts at 18 ATN.

As for weapons, pick something that will scale well with either STG or DEX, but not both, because you'll be investing in other shit too much to really get a quality setup going.
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>>170922251
1-1,5 yearly.
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>>170922302
>it was perfect
I'd rather take a malnourished deer with piranha teeth than a retarded looking chicken with a dumb smile and broken animations.
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>>170922934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvYApd_X3aU
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If I give my Divine Ember to Andre, will I still be able to modify my weapon to Divine at the Giant Blacksmith in Anor Londo?
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>>170922302
They should've went with the original design, tbqh.
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>>170923236
>yfw the abyss dragon head stone from TRC gives you that head
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>not rocking a double morion blade red tearstone ring A F F I N I T Y glass cannon build

Explain whomself.
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>>170923236

There are some things to like about the version they went with, though.
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>>170923236
That model is based on Dragon God's head, not surprised it got cut. Still, it would've been way better than the shitty chicken that we got.
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>>170923683
Because it works better with HCSM
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>>170923683
If i want to be a master of the Cosmos, i would play with my BB 99 ARC build.

When i'm in DS3, i'd rather play as a pyromaniac.
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>>170923747
the DaS1 dragonoids head is based on the berserk trolls though?
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>>170923683
>affinity
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>>170923747
Dragon God has a humanoid body. Just remove the wings and you got yourself a dragon form.
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>all these people ITT who dont know what the fuck an everlasting dragon is

If it does not have

>4 wings
>4 limbs

It is not an everlasting dragon. It can be A dragon, but its not a fucking everlasting dragon.

Seath, ash lake dragon, and possibly abyss dragon are the only ones we know of
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>>170923159
it only unlocks the divine upgrade path I think.
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>>170923683
I would if I could use it in duels. I hope they give affinity a buff so you can land it easier without needing an ambush.
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>>170897412
Twinblades with an Old Wolf GS on your back is pretty unique. Lifesteal mechanic is BB-esque.
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>>170897181
Thanks for the Nighmare fuel guys...

But I also like his depiction in game. The doll like movements Gyndalion makes is really creepy.
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>>170924224
>those abs
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>>170924228
there's also mountain-sized Archdragons, whoever they might be
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>>170924228
who cares about japanese lore to that extent?
When you go that far into the japs definitions of immortality, you don't stay sane. It makes no sense. Dragons are dragons and they got rekt
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Someone come get wrekd in 1v1 undead match on playstation

password dsg
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>>170924228
Miyazaki is a hack and can't maintain any shred of internal consistency in his own lore, which is why all this garbage doesn't make any fucking sense.
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>>170924228

Ash Lake dragon is also descendent.
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>>170924645
I want to punch her dumb pig face so much.
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>>170924816
fucked up, anon
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>>170924727
explain when the endings and beginnings of naruto/bleach/dragonball ever made sense
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>>170924816
apologize
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>>170924894
>naruto/bleach/dragonball
What the fuck does Miyazaki have to do with them ?
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>>170925015
No, she's ugly.
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>>170925046
culture

>>170925115
okay that's enough
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>>170924645
SL?
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>>170925115
she's meh at best
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how do i git gut?
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>>170925260
125 I'll come back just a sec.
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>>170925282
depends on the game
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>>170924816
Slint eyes are only good for burning and making some videogames sometimes
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Plague of Grapes is a cancerous little shit who hates everything besides his precious Dark Souls 1.
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>>170925440
das racist
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>>170924759

Its still an everlasting dragon. Nobody said an everlasting dragon cant be created.

It goes something like

Man-serpent -> drake -> dragon -> everlasting
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>>170925458
but he hates dark souls 1 too anon
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>>170925260
O.K. I'm ready to duel
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>>170925458
he's also a disgusting furfag
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>>170925536
? He a Demon Souls faggot?
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>>170925458
Who?

>>170925489
It's true though, nips are fucking odd and chinks are basically like incects
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>>170925382
DS3
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>>170925660
anon he hates everything

and by hate I mean he loves bitching about everything

just look at the starsiege playthrough, he talks about how he loves it, and why it's complete shit.
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>>170925458
hey seath how does it feel to be a............
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>>170925803
acquire straight sword and start pumping str/dex, infuse with refined to best results.

consider the bloodring if you want completely OP rolls (they're already really strong thoug)
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Do you think Gywndolin fought back before Aldrich made it to Anor Londo?
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>>170926063
He probably offered his saucy ass up on a silver platter
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>>170925573
dam those are some nice soles
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I forgot to kill Manus and Kalameet before going in NG+1, I'll do them for the first time in NG+1.
How fucked am I ?
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>>170926063
Gwyndolin is a fucking loser, shame we didn't get to see traces of any silver knights that went down fighting
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>>170925458
>Plague of Grapes
Who is he?
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>>170926063
I like to imagine him hiding behind the fog gate and hoping Aldrich just came to join the darkmoon covenant
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>>170926383
I like to assume that Nito is just living his death in his coffin. Its what he would have wanted.
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>>170926312
apologize. He died to save his sister
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>>170924224
>Your dragon man will never look like this
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>>170926556
he shouldn't have tried shoving his gravelord sword up the chosen undeads ass then
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>>170926063
Better question: did Smough fight back?
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Did anybody here play TRC at PAX ?
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>>170926556
>chilling in his coffin
>cool as fuck
Why did we have to kill him again ?
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>>170926383
>denial: the comic
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>>170926653
You bet your ass he did. Sullyvahn probably ended up doing him in.
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>>170926603
How did he do that, by being frail and weak and dying to a blob of fucking shit
I'm sure if nameless were loyal and had been in anor londo when shitstain rolled up, that would have been more interesting
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>>170926669
>anyone on 4Chan
>being allowed into public society
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>>170926063
It's implied that Sullyvhan poisoned Gwyndolin. So his takeover was likely very subtle and happened under Gwyndolin's nose before he could muster a resistance of any kind.
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>>170926679
Cause we're the chosen undead. And the chosen undead is an asshole that only cares about himself.
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How good is the Twin Princes greatsword? I'm contemplating if I should go ahead and do NG+ to get it.
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>>170925513

Nothing states that it's an Everlasting.
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>>170926653
Last Knight in defense of the Ruined Cathedral. He probably died in a last stand.
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>>170927341
>Knight
Smough get out
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>>170926063
>>170926904
Sulleyvan poisoned Gwyndolin. Gwyndolin appointed his half-sister, Yorshka as his master of spies/guards, which ended badly because of how ridiculously naive and sheltered she is. I suppose she was the only one Gwyndolin could really trust, but this all ended with the entire church being subverted. Gwyndolin sacrificed his life to save Yorshka, but Suleyvan captured her as she fled and stuck her in the tower. All of the remaining loyal knights and descendents of Gwyn were enslaved and turned into beasts.

>>170926653
Smough is Aldrich. Just kidding, he probably died of old age by this point. Though it is interesting to note that Smough, the outcast of the 4 knights, is now the most revered among them within Anor Londo, while Ornstein, the leader and the one who refused Smough knighthood, is basically forgotten.
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>>170926653
>tfw crushing invaders with full smough cosplay

wish his hammer had the shovel move as R2 though
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>>170927530
Ornstein did show that he was tired of all the fame he had. Him going the way of his master and becoming a hermit on Archdragon Peak makes sense.
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>>170927530

They don't even talk about Smough, though. And there's many references to Ornstein. Also, Smough was never one of the four.
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do you guys ever feel really badly like killing yourselves ancd want to die i hate myself and wish i could die :')
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>>170927791

What is odd is why he, the top dragonslayer, would go looking for the dude who defected to the Dragons. Though it seems to imply that he found and was killed by NK.
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>>170927883
try levelling str
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>>170913226
Aiming for 120? 30 att, 40/40 int/fth
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>>170926312
>>170927530
There are no Silver Knights in Anor Londo. They're illusions, remember?
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>>170927967
His dislike of dragons were small compared to seeing the man that trained him again. I think he eventually just died of old age on the mountain.
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>>170927530
Sulyvahn could kill Yorshka whenever he wants. I'm wondering why he keeps her alive.
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>>170927974
heck yeah dude I have 50 strength right now dexterity is for little girls haha (i still really want to die help)
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>>170928013
There are in 3
Not all of gwyns knights went and got scorched by demons
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Anyone feel like trespassing the swamp while I farm for Swordgrass around level 110-120?

I suck at PVP so you can look forward to that.
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>>170928242
To give to Aldrich when he eventually finished digesting Gywndolin.
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>>170928141

Doubtful considering his proximity to NK. They basically fought for opposite sides in the end, I'm sure he wouldn't agree with all the dragon shit going on up there.
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>>170928269
Those are also illusions. Aldritch discovered the Gwyndolin's illusion magic as he was munching on him and wiped up some knights.
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>>170928272
So go farm the enemies for drops then
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>>170927530
>ornstein
>leader

he's not the actual leader of the knights, Gough is
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>>170927265

checked and you're right, i thought it was called everlasting dragon but its really called stone dragon
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>>170928272
What level are you actually supposed to do that?
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>>170928013
so if I kill gwyndolin the moment i step into anor londo, I don't have to fight any knights?
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>>170926653
He was already dead. I killed him.

I thought I killed Gwyndolin as well, but I must have just injured him, like when I thought I killed Giant Lord in a tree's memory or some shit but then remembered I'd already killed him again.

That's why it says Gwyndolin was unwell, because I fucked him up.
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>>170928446
Does it actually ever say who the leader is? I could've sworn that Ornstein was referred to as the captain or something.
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>>170928242
Aldrich gains the powers of whatever he eats. Yorshka has some special powers that Suleyvan wants Aldrich to have.
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>>170928652
Not canon.

Seems to me by all the implications, pro fire Chosen Undead is the canon path
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>>170928614
No. Gwyndolin's illusions last after his death. Gwynevere and sunny Anor Londo don't disappear if you kill him in 1.
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>>170928652
That Gwyndolin you killed was actually an illusion. So was Ornstein.

Basically, everything that doesn't make sense between DS1 and DS3, Gwyndolin did it.
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>>170928272
booting up my magnavox odyssey
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>>170928013

Only the giant knights were illusory.

On the topic of ornstein, everyone assumes that he was retconned into an illusion, but isn't it possible he was just, you know, an undead?

Both gwyndolin and smough were essentially outcasts within anor londo, it's entirely possible ornstein suffered from a secret shame (such as being undead) that would cause him to be left behind in anor londo with the other two.
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>>170928440

I am, that's what I'm farming, but an invasion every once in a while would be welcomed.
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>>170928920
>but isn't it possible he was just, you know, an undead?

No, because he's of the race of gods. Only humans can be undead.
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>>170929028
We don't know that the inhabitants of anor londo aren't just humans with a really high soul level.
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>>170929028
Can only undead be hollow?
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>>170929208
This is actually true

Otherwise how would you explain Gwyn and his Knights existing before acquiring the Lord Souls that were found in the fire?
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>>170929028

>hes of the race of the gods

Is that ever stated? Gough was a giant, you don't need to be part of the royal family to become a knight of the sun in that respect

Plus, smough literally was a cannibal, he fuckin ate people; it's almost impossible for him to have not eaten up some humanity or two
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>>170928747
>>170928829
I think you'll find I really stabbed that fucker and it was 100% canon confirmed.

Ornstein too.
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>>170929315
No, anything can become hollow. Gwyn and Nameless King have both long since hollowed by the time you fight them both.
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>>170928446
Gough is the leader of the Great Archers.
Ornstein is the leader of the Four Knights, which makes him Gough's superior.

>>170927825
Smouth was eventually made into a knight some time between DS1 and DS3. Presumably to fill out Ornstein's spot as one of the four knights.
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>>170929397
Sounds to me like you got fooled by a master magician.

It's okay, at least in DS1, the events of the story actually happened. DS2 wasn't even real. Gwyndolin's trickery knows no boundaries.
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>>170928920

Gwyndolin, ornstein, and smough all being undead would actually make a lot of lore sense, as it would allow them to provide multiple firelinking cycles. Until one of them loses faith and leaves.

Gwyndolin being undead would also explain why the poor bastard is still breathing when aldrich is eating him.
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>>170929450
He was already a knight, he just wasn't one of Gwyn's 4 favourites.
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>>170929652
That or Aldrich is taking his time with him. Remember, while consuming Gywndolin, Aldrich learned a lot of advanced magic just by dreaming.
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Are any of the katanas in DS3 good besides the memepole?
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>>170930019

So many weapons have bleed and the refined infusion is so strong that no not really
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Anyone near elana? As a hexer I'm getting fucked. Ng sm 1735615
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>>170929652
Undead don't survive multiple cycles, anon. When a cycle restarts, the remaining undead become ash and 'die'

That's why the player character is in a graveyard in the first place. The Gods can survive multiple firelinking cycles because they're immortal (in the sense that they don't die naturally). Undead do not, because their 'undeath' itself is a symptom of the fire fading.
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>>170926679
KILL MORE BOSSES
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>>170928920
>>170929652

>Hey their's a bell that's bringing back potential 'heirs to fire' back to life after the Lords of Cinder fucked off.
>Transitory lands from past ages are also appearing at the base of Lothric Castle.
...
>Hey some people I thought were dead who could potentially be 'heirs to fire' are alive again, living in transitory lands from past ages. >Why is this not explained?
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>>170930298

When the fire is linked they regain the ability to die; they then come back when the fire fades again

"Ash" are people who've linked their souls and literally burned themselves away to ashen nothing. And they STILL come back to life.

The graveyard is a resting place for previous linkers of the flame (either successfully or as failures) so that if the world fails to link the flame they'll be there to give it a last chance.
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>>170930019

Uchi is good for Quality and Chaos Blade for pure dex. Darkdrift, Black Blade and Bloodlust all are lacking in comparison. Darkdrift even with the shield piercing buff doesn't have the damage to make it worthwhile and its WA is far worse than Katana Stance. Black Blade technically has the highest Refined AR at 40/40 of Katanas but is only slightly above Washing Pole's for far worse range. Bloodlust on a pure Dex build outdamages the Chaos Blade with the WA active but it doesn't last long and activating it during a fight means taking more damage and bleed that other people can easily hit you during with a weapon that still has less range than the CB.
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>>170930298
Some would argue that they don't really die then. If they would just return as a differently labeled entity.

Also I don't believe the curse is a symptom of the fire fading, but rather it's a symptom of Gwyn linking the fire. The first sin, and upsetting of natural order, created the curse. I swear I've read this in the game itself somewhere but I can't remember where, so if you ask me for a source I won't have any.
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>think about replaying ds1
>locked fps and completely fucked node online
>think about replaying ds2
>shitty early game with adaptability, tons of areas look like shit
>think about replaying bloodborne
>crazy fps drops, chromatic aberration, and have to give sony my shekels for online
I'll never be happy.
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>>170930628

Someone coming back to life makes them undead anon. Ashen ones and heirs to fire are just fancy shmancy undead.
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so gwyndolin fooled us all?
He probably wasn't a trap and actually a manly man after all.
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>>170930820
He was the buffest of Gywn's kids, but he much preferred his feminine form.
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>>170930924
is he half snake or full human?
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>>170930647
>"Ash" are people who've linked their souls and literally burned themselves away to ashen nothing. And they STILL come back to life.
This would imply the player character has been all the way to the end of the ritual once before, which would make most of the game's exposition blatantly redundant. It would also imply that countless random fuckoffs each cycle make it to the kiln, kill its defender and throw themselves into the fire without managing to link it, which is absurd
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>>170931009
The snakes are actually his multiple penis'
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>>170928013
>this meme again
They were real in 1 and they're real in 3
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>>170930820
>>170930924
Maybe we got it the wrong way round and Gwyndolin is actually female to male.
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>>170930924
>>170931009
>>170931143

I wonder which of the snakes is his dick?
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>>170931143
No, he's Gwyn's youngest son, raised as a daughter to fill the void left when Gwyn gave up his beloved youngest daughter to the Ringed City.
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>Priscilla half dragon
>Gwyndolin half snake
>Yorshka half dragon
I'm being serious here: Did Gwyn fuck a dragon? Why else do all these characters have traits of dragons/dragonkin that are descendants of Gwyn?
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>>170922934
No taste
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>>170931425
>Gwyn got cucked by a dragon
>This is what started the war against dragons.
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>>170931425
He had to try it once just to see what it felt like. He kept going back for more.
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>>170931425
I really don't think Gwyndolin is half snake. It's just an illusion.
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>>170928272
>Game has scaling for summoned phantoms
>Wont just scale down WoB, DMB, Faithful and Watchdogs to the trespassers level

This game is so fucking stupid
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>>170931425
Either Gwyn had relations with a dragon, or his wife, whoever she is, had relations with them. I consider the latter scenario more interesting, since it gives Gwyn reason to wage war on the Everlasting Dragons in a very Greek tragedy way.
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>>170931639
but he uses those snakes to rise up during his arrow attack
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>>170931575
>>170931614
Jokes aside, what other explanation is there? Lords naturally transform into Dragons over time, fitting in with the theme of everything reverting to the age of ancients with its Great trees, crags, and dragons.
Undead turn to trees, Lords to dragons, the rest become rock.
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>>170928272
if they'd kept DaS2s invasion system I would
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Someone explain why bosses don't change their attack patterns (moonlight butterfly is an exception) when they get below a certain amount of health in dark souls 1. They stay the same, so if you figure them out, they just become easy.
Is this the case in ds2 and ds3 as well?
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>>170931890
>Lords to dragons

except only humans can turn into dragons
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>>170931704
I have this feeling Gwyn's wife will be in the dlc.
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>>170931976
Because that would have been more work and DaS1 is almost a decade old.

There are a couple bosses with second phases, but not many. DaS2 is the same deal, a few notable bosses have a phase 2 to let you know that shit is real, but most don't

They made that a big deal in DaS3, where every boss has a second phase, because people really seemed to like the concept.
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>>170931820
When an anon says 'it was just an illusion' in relation to Anor Londo they are trying to be funny.
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>>170931976
DaS1 and DaS2 are cobbled together games anon
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>>170931890
what happens when a random undead like soltaire/player kill all the "gods" and steal their lordery and souls?
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>>170931976
Because it was earlier in the series, when that sort of shit was still challenging enough to the point where they didn't need to mix it up midway through the fight. It's also a lot simpler to do with less money, which From had at the time.

It was also because of technical limitations. There's a reason why boss arenas early on in the series are absolutely barren; loading the boss's moveset, AI, and animations just ate up the RAM of the 360 and PS3.
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>>170932063
But how do you explain yorshka and Priscilla.
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>>170928691
>special powers

Consuming ears? Casting Darkmoon Blade?

Being cute?
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>>170931290
No, he's Gwyn's youngest son, raised as a daughter because of the moon or some shit. Also, Gwyndolin never had any statues built of him. In fact, there's no evidence he even exists in 1, up until you stumble upon his secret lair. It seems like Gwyn was ashamed of him and kept him hidden away.
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>>170932153
>>170931976

Starting from Bloodborne pretty much every boss has 2 or more phases. Well, excluding some of the shittier bosses in Bloodborne and DS3.
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>>170932479
How did they even know he was more inclined towards the moon as a baby anyways?
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>>170932386
sex anon, sex
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>>170932376
>>170932336
>>170932153
ds1 and ds2 are more balanced than ds3. Don't get ahead of yourselves ds3fags
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>>170932386
>half breed
>half
>breed
>BREED

anon where do you think babies come from?
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>>170932557

moon = dark

gwyndolin has fucking snakes for legs
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>>170932557
>>170932479

His inclination for the "moon" was because he was bleeding from his ass from all the rough fuckings with the giant sentinels and he explained it as a period to his mom and his dad was too busy fucking dragons to care.
>>
This general spends too much time discussing gwyndolin. He's a side character for gods sake.
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>>170932386

there's a reason priscilla and yorshka are subtly tied to dark shit anon

also somebody fucked a dragon.
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>>170932651
You join a covenant where you duel for baby eyes.
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>>170932570
but that's where you're wrong kiddo

DaS3 is the most balanced, which is also why it's the shittiest, because we love broken games
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>>170932460
The powers of being barefoot in the snow and having a fluffy tail. She must be special in some way, she's half god and half dragon.

>>170932557
Because it started casting illusions and stuff, turning invisible like Ocelotte. Seathe and Oceiros apparantly went mad researching moon magic, so it's apparantly a pretty spooky thing.
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>>170932479
I vaguely recall some item description in 1 talking about how Gwyndolin himself preferred to stay in the shadows, and let the far more regal-looking images of Gwynevere and Gwyn serve as the figureheads of Anor Londo, probably seeing as they were both the highest ranking deities in the Way of White and Gwyndolin was more the leader of the secret service if anything.
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>>170931425

gwyn fucked a human and his chocolate mixed with their peanut butter to create deific dragon people
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>Kill final boss of Ringed City
>Drops Pendant
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>>170932670
The lore is "The Moon Reflects the Sun", so it's a feminine object, as it stands as a companion to the masculine sun.
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Anybody wanna help me out with Dragonslayer armour? I'm lvl63 if that matters.
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>>170932724

~CROSSDRESSING IS MAGIC~
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>>170932812
>>170932651
>>170932567
You guys are saying dragons can't be made from a lord though. Only humans.
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>>170932857
>offensive miracles have no damage
>pyromancy requires int and fai
How is that balanced? it's boring
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>>170932812
How about why is Gwyndolin made of snakes and than apparently one big (rotting) snake in DS3.

Is he also a bastard child of dragons? Did Seath cuck Gwyn?
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>>170932724
He's the most important of the supporting characters in 1 alongside Kaathe, who is the OTHER character this general spends a lot of time arguing about. In 3 he's not AS important but he's still central to understanding what the hell is going on in Anor Londo.
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>>170932670
i dunno about that, why is moon magic 'Magic' instead of 'Dark'??
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>>170933053

I would literally and unironically love that.
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>4PM PST
So 5PM PDT ? Or did they not take the PDT transition into account when they made this announcement ?
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>>170933116
Let me just get the plates out of the dishwasher so I can fit the disc in the tray
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>>170933208
he's probably priscillas twin
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>>170933053
Why would Velka have the pendant?
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>>170933116

Sure, give me a minute to fire up my CPAP machine.
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>>170933165
>offensive miracles have no damage
>
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>>170933145
I actually just wanted to imply that Nameless King was pounding that dragon pussy.
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>>170933208
>How about why is Gwyndolin made of snakes and than apparently one big (rotting) snake in DS3.
Gwyndolin snake legs are an illusion he made to make himself look spooky when you invade his house.

In DS3, that rotting snake body is actually Aldrich.
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>>170933368
the normal Lightning Spear does probably 250 damage at melee range. Pyromancies and sorceries do like 300+ at the same levels. Also considering how melee is much more dangerous for a lightly armored character with long casting times, there are very few openings to strike the enemy without getting staggered or taking huge damage.
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>>170933274
>Really want to play Ringed City and get in on the ground floor of the series climax
>Also really want to wait for The Fire Fades to run through everything with a new character after the game gets a population boost

HELP.
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>>170933278
>>170933361
Oh I'm on PC forgot to say.
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>>170933274
Probably 4pm daylight. But we'll have to wait and see.
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What are good 40int/40faith weapons that don't rely on split damage, just pure physical? I know onyx blade is bretty good but I don't like how the WA is a glorified buff
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>>170933165
>>pyromancy requires int and fai
this was only not the case in 1 and it was completely broken
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>>170933116
Let me find some fresh vacuum tubes for the EDSAC.
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>>170933525
>int/fth scaling
>pure physical
Nothing
>good int/fth weapons
Nearly anything dark/chaos infused, GFS, TPGS, Witch's Locks.
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>>170928920
>Only the giant knights were illusory.
They were?
...
Oh fuck, they were. Nevermind.
If that's the case, why the hell are they working for Aldritch in 3?
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>>170933525
>pure physical
>onyx blade

The weapon you're looking for is Wolnir's. Lothric's if you're looking for something faster.
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>>170931119

I prefer the idea that they were all successful, but saying that really pisses some people off so I have to stick in "or as failures" to keep the autistic screeching at bay.

either way, have you seen how many fucking dead fire keepers there are in the shrine? by the time the player character has another go at the kiln, it doesn't even do anything. so many people have linked the flame you can't even find humanity anymore, it's nothing but little bits of ember; Gael has to travel all the way to the end of goddamn time and attack the pygmies directly just to find a single shred of humanity for the painter girl.

plus, humans eventually lose their memory, there's supposedly a purging shrine in the ringed city that brings back one's memory, which is why Rapp is travelling there. this would be a way for FROM to make the worst plot twist of all time, where the PC touches the purging shrine and remembers they're not only the chosen undead, but the furtive pygmy too. are you entertained? is this not why you are here?would be a neat way to bring back an old boss fight though

Filianore might be the purging shrine all we know
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>>170933663
There are no giant knights in DS3. There's giants, but they're basically slaves, just look at them.
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>>170933463
I won't speak of combat efficiency. Making miracle works is already a complicated endeavor in PvE, in PvP it might be outright impossible. But the damage of the good spells themselves seem to me to be roughly as respectable as the other schools, and I've done a run with every magic school in this game except for dedicated Dark spells. It's just a chore to not die while delivering it.
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>>170933053
>you trade it with pickle pee for the dark soul of man
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As an archer, how do you deal with shielded enemies?
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>>170933145

humans are lords anon.
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>>170933606
>this was only not the case in 1
And 2. The fire damage you got from stats was really small, it was almost all from upgrading the pyro glove. And none of the spells had stat requirements.

>and it was completely broken
Only for twinking, which is a broken concept from the very start.
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>>170933208

he's a faded fire mutant creature who was born during the implied first age of dark. he is also very tied to the dark, literally called the god of the dark sun, so I would bet a lot of money on him being human.
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>>170933663

they went hollow anon
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>>170933791
>You can consume the Dark Soul for 100,000 souls or transmute it into a Dark Soul Sword, which is like the Dark Sword, but it has a unique weapon art that causes you to spin around a bunch of times and create a dark explosion.
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Did Gwyn make humans immortal or mortal?
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>>170933730

But why does he have to travel to the future if the city exists in the current time and had since at least the First Age of Fire?
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>>170934150

>consume for 100,000 souls

you mean consume for permanent ember anon.
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>>170933739
No, no, I mean the silver knights.

>>170933865
In 3? You don't.
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>>170934201
immortal I think
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>>170934201
The First Flame gave humans as we know it life.
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>>170933730

Oh shit it never crossed my mind that we could also get our own memories back. That could lead to some real fuckery. I'm looking forward to whether or not Lapp is lying about that.
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>>170934271
are you sure? There's no way at all to deal with shields as a bow user in 3?
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>>170934219

maybe that's the only way to get there
maybe it only exists at the end of time
maybe the place hasn't fallen apart in the present and therefore there's no way to claim any humanity without getting arrested and executed

don't overthink a story that exists for the sake of interesting gameplay
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>>170934317
then what is gwyn and his knights and the witch of izalith and her witches?
All of these discovered their flames while dressed in those royal clothes and shieeet.
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>>170934350

he's very obviously patches, and I think he's telling the truth

I foresee a situation where Rapp either fucks you over after getting his memories back, or has some form of self-reflection sad ending.
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>Fuck with Life, create Chaos and demons
>Fuck with Death, create Necromancy and spooky skeletons
>Fuck with Dark, create Abyss and dickwraiths
>Fuck with Life, angels?
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>>170934608

fuck with life, create death
fuck with death, create life
fuck with light, create dark
fuck with dark, create light
>>
Is there a way to safely relock my achievements in dark souls 3 without getting banned to have fun going around and doing it all again?
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>>170934608
Fuck with light, you get the darksign.
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>>170933730
>>170934546

Is it not obvious that it would be Patches revealed to be the Furtive Pygmy?
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>>170934535

the DaS1 intro isn't a 1:1 historical recreation you tard, it's a story. Both ringed city and Izalith are pre-dragon war kingdoms. Gwyn is known as the lord of sunlight almost entirely because of winning said war and bringing humanity to the surface.
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>>170933994

>All sorts of things born under the Dark Sun are malformed
>The Angels are born as Pilgrim Butterflies
>Gwyndolin was born with snake legs, imperfect dragon and had to be raised as a girl so he could wear skirts to hide the snakes.
>Seathe probably born after a Dark Sun happened and was born mutated, as would many descendents of the Everlasting Dragons
>The War of the Ancients may have happened because Gwyn fucked everything up by removing the souls from the First Flame and starting this cycle shit, which the Dragons were pissed about.
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>>170934608
fuck with light, create humans
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>>170934535
Remember that the intro of DS1, while fairly compact, spans a waaaay longer stretch of time than one would first be led to believe. Gwyn, the Witch and Nito didn't find the Lord Souls in an afternoon and had already exterminated the Everlasting Dragons next morning. You're probably not seeing them at the very moment they find the souls, first of all because they're not in the fire at the time. Most likely it's just a stylistic choice to show the Lords in all their glory looking at their souls and allow you to associate the name and the figure. Only the Pygmy is shown doing something that could conceivably been understood as just finding the Dark Soul the moment he's on screen.
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>>170934836
>Patches murders people to try to get his pendent back
DEEPEST
E
E
P
E
S
T
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>>170934836

that would be a terrible twist and you know it. would be a perfect example of jumping multiple sharks when you turn a comic relief recurring character into one of the most important lore pieces in the entire series.
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>>170934546
>after enduring the danger of the Dreg Heap and the Ringed City, you become close friend with Rapp, the feeling is mutual
>as he regain his memory of being Patches, he is tempted to fuck you other
>he barely resist the temptation and kill himself to avoid hurting his friend
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>>170934839
gwyn was a king before he discovered the flame though.

>>170934931
maybe the pygmy was just a poorfag manlet
>>
Wew got Dragonslayer Armour.
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why the fuck won't leonhard show up
i just want that miracle nigga
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>>170934836
>there's supposedly a purging shrine in the ringed city that brings back one's memory,
>memory

OH FUCK.
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>>170935032

no he wasn't idiot, he BECAME a king in the potentially HUNDREDS of years between finding the flames and killing the dragons.
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>>170934836
>a dirty russian is actually plot relevant
nope
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>>170934836
>Patches kicked Gwyn off a cliff so he could nick the Dark Soul
>This is why Gwyn hates humanity
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>15 more days

plenty of time to get your character to NG+7, faggots CMON
>>
why no dragon slayer bow in ds3?
>>
>>170935308
I am going to go through it at level 100 on NG.
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>>170935349
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Dragonslayer+Greatbow
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I make thing
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Many are wondering how the DLC will play out, how it will end, what cool things could happen.
But what would be the literal worst, most retarded shit they could do, that would legitimately make you mad?

implying it's not the same thing
>>
can someone help me with those rats underground in the water in irythill? i only played in offline mode before, do i need to leave a co-op white sign in ember mode?
>>
>>170935086
Kill Yhorm.

>>170935432
>kekxtra
>>
I haven't played ds3 since before the DLC was released.

What have I missed? How many DLC expansions have been released?
>>
>>170935620
Leaving a white sign offers help to others. You need to look for someone else's sign while in ember mode to get help.
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>>170935653
>kekxtra

It's what he deserves for asking such a stupid question.
>>
>>170935583
Them confirming that Gwyn is Yorshka's father, the new girl being a literal who with no reason whatsoever for being added to the family this late, and the expansion not saying a word about Gwynevere, and they actually calling the damn think the Dark Souls of Man rather than just the Dark Soul.
>>
>>170935789
oh, thanks. i got invaded and killed in like 5 sec though
>>
>>170935583
Having interaction with the Primordial Serpents that's lackluster and isn't memorable at all.

A boring final boss.

Nothing of value for Faith builds.

All the cool magic shit goes to only pyros.

A new Katana that's just pure Dexterity/Quality with nothing else special to it.

STR/DEX weapons whose only distinguishing features are being better than base game STR weapons.

Generic WAs for at least half the new weapons.

The Aquamarine Dagger being garbage.
>>
>>170935620
Literally just hold up a shield to block their attack, then stagger them to death. They're not hard enemies.

>>170935715
Google is your friend.
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>>170935583
>the final boss is on par with Gravetender bossfight, just an Npc with a sword and no unique armor
>the final boss, the furtive piggy is just a hollow
>it opens more question than awnser, just like AOA with Dunnel and the snake/woman statue
>>
What talisman should I use for a cleric build in DaS1? I've currently got Lightning Spear, WotG and Greater Heal attuned. I like doing big damage with the miracles rather than healing a lot, if that matters.
>>
>>170935715
1.

Number 2 is coming out soon.

Its the last one.

Apparently.
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>>170935583
Something like this.
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anybody need any help?
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>>170934384
I guess you could use the longbow weapon art.
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Man it sure is good weapon memory stopped twinking dead in it's tracks, huh guys?
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How do you fucks play this game for a year? Do you not play anything else at all? I put hundreds of hours in but had to stop playing out of boredom after like 5 months.
>>
>>170935957
I will never stop giving EA and Bioware shit for how badly they fucked that up.

>literally the only difference in the ending, in a game where it's advertised that all your decisions will matter, is the color of the explosions, and you can literally choose which one in the end to render all of your previous choices meaningless
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>>170936181
I stopped for a while to play other games then came back
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>>170934271
Is there a way to deal with shielded enemies in ds1/2?
>>
why do i get invaded in ember every time?
>>
>>170936181
>>170936259
this anon is correct
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>>170933509
Why is The Fire Fades edition released a month after TRC ? Are they adding anything else apart from the game + DLCs to justify this wait ?
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thanks pestilent mercury for killing all bosses that can't be poisoned.
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>>170936294
Yeah you can tear through them using dragonslayer arrows.
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>>170936464
Maybe some balance changes. That's the most I can think of. But nothing near as drastic as SotFS.

It could also just be the time that's require to print out new boxes for the discs and ship all that shit to retailers. Who knows.
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>>170936181
>>170936294
>>170936360
>tfw you have a PS4 and the only games you have are
>DaSIII
>DaSII
>Bloodborne
>Minecraft With a DaS map
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>>170936464
>Are they adding anything else apart from the game + DLCs to justify this wait ?
They're advertising it as a GOTY edition (game with included DLCs), so I don't think so. The wait might have something to do with manufacturing the physical PS4/Xbox One discs for it.
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>>170936464

to give people time to buy the DLC, they make more money that way
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>>170936354
Because that's exactly how it's supposed to work.
>>
I'm introverted with a good intelligence but bad mechanics. What kind of build should I go?
I'm sure everything can work, but it's a question of what works best for me. I usually build inefficient characters in all my games by putting points into everything evenly and upgrading everything evenly because I can't decide on one.
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>>170936178
it's better than nothing
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>>170937057

you're also clearly autistic; fists only would be perfect for you
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>>170937057
>I'm introverted with a good intelligence
>a good intelligence
>intelligence
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>>170937159
Don't make fun of me.
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>>170936870
i was looking for co-op sing helps but only got killed twice
nice
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>>170937203
I'm going to get into mensa next year. Don't make fun of me.
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>>170937376
>>170937376
>>170937376
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>>170936521
Your build looks fun. Wish the storytellers WA wasn't the only good poison.
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>>170936181
I don't, I gave up on Dark Souls 3 a long time ago. I just come occasionally for news.

There's nothing to keep me going in it.
Invasions are trash, every aspect of them
PvP is dumbed down and has an extremely low skill ceiling
Game is extremely linear and repetitive with nothing to change playthroughs
Functionally no NG+ and above content
Functionally no build variety
Minimal challenge on account of the 16 stamina rolls with no instability frames and braindead healing
No long term goals, trash covenant rewards

Now, Dark Souls 2, just about all of that was reversed. I could and did play that game for a year+.
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>>170937476
Too bad the PvE in DaS2 is shit.
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>>170937476
>shilling that trash instead of DaS 1

Leave
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>>170937818
and the story and the graphics and the animations and the atmosphere and the match making and the despawning enemies
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>>170931490
No dude your taste is extremely garbage.
If the fantasy is "dragonoid human" turning into a fuzzy gimp winged little faggot is just depressing.

The fact that furshits can actually be attracted to DS1/3 dragon forms just proves how fundamentally degenerate they are. May as well shove a fleshlight in sun-dried roadkill and go wild.
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>>170938083
Despawning enemies can be circumvented, but I agree with the rest.
Oh, and the majority of bosses are trash too.
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>>170938182
>Despawning enemies can be circumvented
By doing a very long quest and grinding, yeah.
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>>170938321
What? I thought you only needed to join a covenant or something.
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>>170938321
>very long quest
>walking to Majula, a literal straight path where you have to fight 0 enemies
>it's a people who don't play or understand the most basic crap about DS2 shit on it episode
>>
>>170938536
>>170938563
What? You have to farm bonfire ascetics which only drop from monsters in the abyss place.
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>>170938789
Join the damn covenant of champions in Majula and it respawns all enemies and keeps them for as long as you're in it.
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