/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>170828379
>>170828401
The reason I asked is because I remember an item description implying that the occult powers come from people stealing power from Nito.
If Occult is actually related to the dark soul...
Well, Velka being the Furtive Pygmy is less of a joke theory than I thought.

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>painted world literally made from the dark soul
>shits out divine magic when you touch it

what did miyazai-san-chan mean by this?

>>170828686
I like the part where he healed with full health after aggroing the lothric knight

>>170828837

>item description implying that the occult powers come from people stealing power from Nito.
that's speculation based on item location, there is no direct connection.

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>>170828886
Humans are divine beings now.

>>170829019
>speculation based on item location

what? the occult club is found in a room next to havel's set, and the occult ember is found in a prison for unwanted human beings and a dragon person.

>>170828686
Jesus christ, you can tell whoever this was had no idea what they were doing and panicked because people were watching

>>170828809

Gracious. Passing fine ass thou'st given.

>>170829038
>>170828886

>humans are the actual sons of man, a literal dragon god named man
>gwyn got butthurt and killed it so he could steal its soul
>dragon war was the dragons defending themselves

>>170828686
>gotta take a sip
>better make sure I'm in the middle of all these enemies first
Fucking perfect.

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>>170829250

>>170829338
>fuck, they might damage me
>better heal preemptively
>don't want people to think I don't know what I'm doing

>>170828686
What do the weight equip break points do in ds3?

Is there any reason to be under 30% weight?

Anyone else having trouble getting Japanese to work in Dark Souls 1? I don't have any mods installed.

>>170829437
Your rolls physically move faster and carry you farther across the screen. IIRC, it also slightly boosts your stamina regen.

30-69.99% is standard stamina regeneration with standard rolls

70%-99.99% is slowed stamina regeneration with slow, low iframe rolls. Interestingly, the low amount of distance can be used as a metagame when using weapons with good rolling attacks against certain weapons.

>>170829432
Oh shit I didn't even realise he had full health
Pure, solid gold.

I did that in front of an invader once

>>170829293
>tfw Dragons and Angels are one and the same.

>>170829437
There's only two equip load break points: 30%, and 70%. The one that most people stay at is 70% since it's much easier. Being under 30% gives you a faster roll, don't know the specific i-frame data though.

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In just two weeks the first /dsg/ thread tourney is starting. On March 25th, 2pm PST a PC tournament will be held prior the release of The Ringed City DLC.
Participants will be matched up with others who sign-up and fight for the claim to be /dsg/'s champion. The winner and runner-ups will receive prizes including Steam games and being better than everyone else who fought.

Sign-up sheet is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform?usp=sf_link

Sign-ups close on 22nd of March, 2pm PST with brackets announced shortly after.

For the sake of organization either your Steam ID or a Discord ID will be needed to sign-up. If using only one, Steam IDs will be organized via that messages there and Discord users can join the accompanying server in the link above to ensure we don't have last minute drop-outs with no explanation.

RULES:
-Maximum Soul Level of 125 allowed. Someone with CE open will be monitoring all players to make sure this rule and others aren't broken.
-The starting location will be High Wall, followed by Farron Keep bridge and ending at the Darkmoon Tomb.
-Fights are best of 3
-Each fight is 2 minutes long, the one with the most % health left at the end will win if both are alive.
-Gargoyle Flame Spear, Washing Pole, Throwing Knives, Anri's Straight Sword, Ethereal Oak Shield, Ancient Dragon Greatshield, and Fire Surge are banned.
-Only two Ashen Estus sips per fight, any more and your win will not count, initiating a rematch. Do this twice and you are disqualified
-All Regen items and spells are banned to disencentize passive shittery. This includes Sun Princess Ring, Blessed Weapon, Spells like Bountiful Sunlight, the weapons/shields mentioned above with innate regen and anything infused with Blessed.
-Normal FC rules still apply such as no healing items. Fight rotation will be determined once brackets are set.

Discord link: https://discord.gg/5PBsgsV

>>170829867
fuck off with your spam, it's in the OP

>>170829867
literally who cares

>>170828686
>webm
gives me conniptions

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Help
I can't find the way to Nito. Whenever I get into the Catacombs I ended up to Pinwheel bossroom.
I also have the skull lantern, do I need to light it in a specific location ?

>>170829925
>>170830009
only the sign up form is there, thank you kindly for your attention

>>170830184
Nope, just keep looking

>>170830184
>I ended up
I meant "always end up"

>>170830184
"Nestle in coffin"

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>>170830220
Maybe just fucking make a pastebin or some shit with all the bans and whatever so you don't have to post this shit every fucking thread and wedge it with the other link

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>>170830184
you need to go deeper

>>170830038
>still preferring GIFs

>>170830473
>not preferring rapidly cycling through jpgs in a powerpoint presentation file
spotted the plebian

>>170828886
>>170829038
>>170829293
>>170829673
But seriously, why is divine stuff being associated with humanity and the Dark Soul all of a sudden?

>>170830580
>not running an executive file in DOS to display ASCII graphics

wew lad

>>170830580
>powerpoint
>not mashing the right arrow in Windows Photo Viewer as fast as you can

>>170830386
I already did that, found a covenant, and nowhere else to go so I left. Now I can't get back here anymore.

>>170830439
How deep ?

What's the best class of magic for spellblading in 2? Besides miracles, of course.

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>>170830827
because humanity isn't evil, the abyss and the deep are corruptions of humanity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWu5YqWjy8o

>>170831068
what are your thoughts about the difference between the abyss and the deep?
i'm asking before i watch the video, but i'm gonna watch now

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>>170831043
>How deep ?

if you hit ash lake, you've gone too deep

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>>170829019
My guess is that he tried to switch to his shield to pre-block, or wanted to chuck a Lightning Spear (most probably the former, given his penchant for constantly holding up the shield throughout the gameplay video).

I'm still surprised at how people have trouble with Lothric Knights when they're so ridiculously easy to parry.

>>170830827
Some shitter posted in one of the older threads a few days ago that since divinity was created by humans, and humans are the spawn of the Dark Soul, divine light = dark.

>>170831043
You use the lantern in the next area, look in the boss arena for a ladder.

>>170831006
>>170830897
>not putting all the jpgs in one folder you've set as your screensaver and waiting for your computer to fall asleep

>>170831272
>when they're so ridiculously easy to parry.

you dont even need to go that far, if you have a shield they're the easiest thing in the world to get a backstab off on

spoiler: Does anyone even still play DaS1 on xbox 360?

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>>170831509
>playing on dedbox 360

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>>170831272
>they're so ridiculously easy to parry
As are the majority of things in this game. If you aren't good at parrying or just aren't using something that could, then they can get annoying quick.

>>170831272
>>170831431
Yeah, yeah, you're real hot shit.
Lothric knights are hard. They're fast and strong and can vary up their attacks a lot and you can't parry half of them.

>>170831061
Hexes are pretty powerful. That being said, it's primarily dark orb and (great) resonant soul you'll be using since the other hexes are either much later on in the game or pretty situational.

>>170831272
>My guess is that he tried to switch to his shield to pre-block
You can see the talisman icon flashing as he's trying to switch to a shield

I wish I watched the stream now.

>>170831431
I prefer the parry, since their 2- or 3-swing combo is so predictable that you can always parry the second swing after baiting the first one, even if you're a shitter. Much more satisfying, takes less time and does more damage. Plus circling for the backstab risks them attempting the shield bash.

Or at least, parrying against the straight sword ones is easy. I still have no idea what to do except backstab against the spear and greatsword wielders.

>>170831753
Having played through the other games lately, it's pretty impressive just how much more aggressive and strong the standard Lothric Knight is compared to the Black/Silver knights of I or the Syan Knights in II.

>>170831509
>>170831604
You can play Dark Souls 1 on Xbox One You can also play Demon's Souls on PS4 In japanese

>>170831815
A kind anon ripped the stream footage and uploaded it to Mega, check the OP.

>>170831960
>not playing Demon's Souls on your PC via emulator

>>170831931
Lothric Knights are strong within the context of 3 in order to provide a challenge. A DaS1 Black Knight in 3 would be piss easy because they were, even then, sort of slow. They're tough in 1 because of how long their attacks linger and damage they deal, not necessarily because they swing at light speed.

>>170832106
what a time to be alive

emulating ps3 on pc.

>>170831960
>jap Des on PS4
nani?

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I'm making a sorta cosplay build in dark souls 3 with the stuff I liked to run more in dark souls 1, I'll be using a black knight glaive, and staying at sl120, where do you think those 6 points I have leftover would be better spent? the increase in 2h AR is minimal if I put them in str, but 1h it's still quite something

>>170832232
just imagine when we're all using quantum computers in 8 years time to emulate the PS4 to finally play BB on pc

>>170831213
>what are your thoughts about the difference between the abyss and the deep?
I haven't watch the video, but from my understanding, the abyss is wild humanity while the deep is rotten humanity.

>>170831272
>that webm
my pug could play better, and she's retarded

>>170831931
Oh, nice.

>>170831931
>it's pretty impressive just how much more aggressive and strong the standard Lothric Knight is
I have rather fond memories of the day after release and nearly dropping the game because that first knight killed me so many times, then I heard that there was a castle full of them.

pcfc?

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>>170830827
Dark isn't evil unless it's corrupted, then it turns into the Abyss/Deep

I don´t get Dark Souls 3.
I just don´t know what i should do.
This is no fun.

>>170832481
have you attempted to gain proficiency?

>>170831931
In my first playthrough that first knight in high wall killed me more times than any single boss. Lothric knights throughout the game killed me more times than all the bosses combined. They're easily the single hardest enemy in the series, baring weird gimmick baddies like Winter Lanterns. A lot of that is Ds3's speed problems, though.

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what is wrong with pic relateds hips? They are bigger than big ben and the eifell tower combined

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>>170832664
I don't see any problem

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>that one gwyn attack you can't parry

>>170832664
The perspective on Nashandra's body in that pic is really fucked up in general, her lower half is ridiculously large compared to the rest of her.

>>170831272
Whats this? Polygone playing dark souls?

>>170832873
Cute!

>>170832283
It's been on PSnow since before DaS3 came out. But only for Japanese accounts.

>>170832481
Play light and r1 spam. R1s, roll attacks, dash attacks, r2s if they get stunned.
Don't try to be fancy, not even a little bit. It either won't give enough returns for the effort or straight up won't work.
Don't use sorcery, it's bad. Don't use miracles, they're awful. Don't use heavy armor, it's like half a percent less damage than your leather rags and sucks, and you'd have to put points into vitality, which also sucks. Don't use heavy weapons unless you like gimping yourself. Don't use bows, don't use a dash of support magic, don't use fire/deep/chaos/blessed/simple/crystal/lightning infusions, don't use any infusions besides refined for most weapons, don't even think of playing heavy, don't even bother with that cool fancy weapon with the special weapon art, don't even try whatever it is you're thinking of. It won't work.

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3 favourite non-boss enemies to fight
3 most hated non-boss enemies to fight

>favourite
Giant crystal lizards, outrider knights, lesser capra demon
>most hated
DS1 dogs, corvians of any description, fucking Flamberge Thralls
Honorable mention to those big tick assholes and maggots in Bloodborne.

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>>170832958
>watch friend fight Gwyn for the first time
>dies twice
>tell him to parry
>nah man, I got this
>puts on full Havel
>mfw he facetanks and mauls him with his Zweihänder

Gwyn did basically no damage. Absolutely hilarious

>>170833314
O-oh okay...
Thanks i think i switch back to witcher or skyrim.
I don´t think this is my genre

>>170832635
I honestly don't think the Lothric Knights are really a problem, speed-wise. They're fast, sure, but there's still enough of a tell in their attacks that I don't feel like they're bullshit or anything.
The fact that they have such a high number of moves that can rush you down and pressure you, partially thanks to the stances each one can take, is probably what makes them feel so fast. You can't simply roll away and assume you're safe when they have several attacks intended to chase you down.

>>170833402
There are people who unironically want this sort of thing to be a legitimate playstyle.

>>170833327
>favourite
Blue/red eye knights, Giant mushroom men, farron followers

>most hated
DS3 dogs, thralls, horsefuck valley horses

>>170832458
Dark accepts and reflects the inner nature of the humans that stare into it. This is explicit in Dark Magic. Pursuers is even "a strong expression of envy or love imprinted on fragments of Dark" which can only gravitate to other people.

>>170833579
>assume you're safe when they have several attacks intended to chase you down

>that one spear knight outside of Vordt's room that can shoot down the entire flight of steps in 0.5 seconds to hit you with a -1 estus if you try to heal
I love that guy.

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>>170833402
>puts on full Havel
Go fucking figure

>>170833579
It's mostly down to which weapon you're using. If you're carrying something heavy enough to both stagger them on hit and plow through their shield if they continue blocking, you don't need to do anything more complicated than get the first R1 in and then mash them to death.
If you're using Twinblades where all of your attacks will bounce off the shield and you don't have a kick option, well good luck.

>>170833762
>DS3 dogs, thralls,

Just block them. Or use alluring skull.

>>170832635
The first Lothric Knight I ran into wrecked my shit for a little while, because I kept trying to stick to ass-hugging circle-strafing shield up, and they absolutely punish that with the biggest metal cock possible.

Now I mostly hate the greatsword using cathedral knights, especially in the Consumed King's Garden.

>>170833939
Doesn't make them any less annoying.

>>170833737
That strat stops working real quick when you go into higher NG cycles but yea, it's pretty stupid

>>170833579
I disagree. IF they paused more or had some sort of openings that lasted longer than half a second, it'd be fine, but no. They just don't stop attacking. And it all tracks so well! I have seen these fucks make a full 90 degree turn mid-charge. This is the exact same problem so many Ds2 enemies had with the roomba feet, it's just better animated now and on an actually fast enemy.
SO MUCH of my problems with them is the shield bash. It's to fast and tracks WAY to well and staggers your out of absolutely anything. It makes them completely unapproachable. Blocking? Bashed. Circling around? Bashed. Kicking his guard? Bashed. Try and get him at the end of a combo? Bashed. Back off? Well sure, but you're not gonna kill him like that. It's to much.

>>170834042
>Doesn't make them any less annoying.
>When it completely neutralises them

They get stunned if they attack your shield. Alluring skull does alluring skull things.

You could also use a fire dagger against dogs.

>>170833314
I mean, you can make literally anything work if we're talking about single player. There's always been optimal builds, but it doesn't magically make everything else totally unusable. That's been the case in every game in this series, hasn't it?

>>170833536
>I don´t think this is my genre
It might be. The other games are much more flexible in how you can approach them. 3's just a real special little shit.

>>170833928
>Twinblades
Jesus fuck HOW.
I genuinely have no idea how to beat the spear knights with twinblades.

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>>170832458
Anon, its 100% CANON CONFIRMED that Manus just wanted cuddles.

>>170832635
>They're easily the single hardest enemy in the series


The sword and shield version will block 90% of the time after have hit him twice with your longsword. Then you can immediately follow up with a guard break weapon art.

Then you are done.

>>170831257
I'm in too deep
Send help

>>170831275
Thanks lad

>>170832448

bf??

>trying out a greatshield for the first time
>but sign down for Oceiros because I'll get the most use out of it there
>I'm literally immortal
This is fantastic. I'm a literal wall of "suck my dick I'm a wall"

>>170834272
That's not really the point though, I just dislike those enemies. The thing I really hate the most about DS3 dogs is how they teleport because it just looks janky as fuck and not intentional.

Same with thralls, they aren't hard to deal with but I dislike their visual design and the look of their obnoxious stupid flailing.

>>170834568
pcfcg(b)f

>>170834282
Yes that guy is just being overly bitter. E.G Big weapons wreck shit in PVE just as much as in the other games. Some bosses are even eaiser with it.

Dark and Chaos infusions can be just as useful as refined too.


>>170833536
Don't give up m8. What are you having problems with?

>>170834224
I don't know, I kind of like that they have an attack that tries to knock you out of being able to just stand there and block, or circle-strafe for an easy backstab. In other words, something to try and prevent what was usually a really easy way to trivialize encounters in the previous games.

You do have a point in how fast it comes out though, the thing has very little windup.

Is there any new spoilers from PAX?

>>170834947
No. They didn't managed to show any mostly because the player sucked.

>>170834947
Ahahahaha...no.

>>170834224
>Back off? Well sure, but you're not gonna kill him like that. It's to much.
They have a bash for that. It has a longer wind-up though so it's easier to avoid.

>>170834632
Oceiros, like a bunch of bosses with only physical attacks, are easily cheesed by any 100% physical block shield. You literally only have to watch out for a few of his breath attacks, and that's it.

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>>170834224
>and staggers your out of absolutely anything

try a greatshield next time faggit

FIGHT CLUB

>>170835287
That's why I put my sign down there rather than, say, the dancer.
I normally roll wooden shields because they look cool, but obviously you take massive a stamina hit from the low stability. Fully upgraded Dragonslayer GS is just insane for how much you can take before even coming close to having your guard broken.

>>170835794
Oh, and not to mention staggering Lothric Knights out of everything that isn't a charged attack.
Even Greatsword Cathedral Knights get staggered after a couple of swings.

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why did they have to make Sir Alonne's fog door run so shit

Holy hell can anyone help me with Gwyn on NG+ on xbox? I literally can't parry him 20 times to beat him

>>170836124
Get a fuckler

>>170836027
It was probably designed by the same guy that made iron passage

>>170836027
If you're carefully avoiding enemies as they come, you have a brief period of safety after that first drop down, and again just outside of his fog gate. Alonne himself also takes a second or two to become hostile, which gives you enough time to heal if you need it.
It's still pretty brutal though, yes.

>>170835287
I will never understand people's fixation on the idea that shields are garbage. A good shield is almost a crutch in how well it'll carry you through the game.

>>170834834
No, I'm not. No, they don't. No, they aren't.
Yes, you can try other things in PvE and win with them, but so what? You can beat the game naked with your fists, or worse, twindaggers. It's still NOWHERE NEAR as effective as the best shit, and the game will be enormously harder because of it. This has always been the case, true, but never to the extreme extent it is 3.

>E.G Big weapons wreck shit in PVE just as much as in the other games.
This especially. I've swung a UGS in against every enemy in every game and holy FUCK is it bad in 3, moreso than any game previously, especially compared to lighter weapons.

>>170836027
Why did they have to make lmao2cat's run even worse? Or else why did they create the multi-layered petrification spit statue gauntlet to get to the gank squad?

It's called "garbage level design". I swear it's the same fucking guy who everyone in the office is trying to keep busy because he turns everything he gets his hands on to shit.

>>170836124
>I can't cheese this boss with a single button
>please come and help me :'(

Try using the skills you learned during the game. Dodging, blocking, timing, healing. He dies like every other boss. He's not immortal to anything but parrying.

>>170836483
I think it's mostly that they aren't as powerful as they were in 1 (where they were incredibly powerful), and that a lot of enemies have attacks that will burn through your stamina at a rate that's way worse than if you just dodge.

>>170836483
Most enemies attack so fast and so aggressively that they tear through and most shields and blocking staggers you so much. It's a pretty easy thing to understand, man.

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AAAAAAH my titanite FUCK

>>170836680
>haha look at me I make fun of people asking for help on a game on a Malaysian water skiing forum
>meanwhile Gwyn's attack patterns are far reaching enough and aggressive enough that with one person, using estus is almost impossible without already parrying him first

>Lost bastille
>Only path that leads to anywhere useful is 'dude get ganked lmao'

Will I get something useful for beating the pursuer again?

>>170836613
>never to the extreme extent it is 3
Definitely false when it comes to Demon's and Bloodborne. Magic in Demon's breaks the game in half so hard and is so insanely powerful that there's no other way to play through the game that comes close.
The entirety of Bloodborne is trivialized by LHB r1 spam, and trying to make more specialized builds is notoriously difficult to the point that they may as well not exist for the average player.

>>170836680
Cave of the Dead is fine. Short, dumb, and uninteresting, but not offensively bad like Outskirts. The statues don't spit much and the petrification builds up so slow.

How many endings does this game have? I remember something about 3 endings, but I'm not sure.

>>170837427
3 endings with corresponding achievements, 1 ending that is a 'secret' modification of one of the endings with no corresponding achievement.

>>170829682
>>170829617
Wait so rolls actually go faster under 30? I know they cover more distance

>>170836613
Heavy Great Club on an early STR build is fucking brutal, just because they don't literally one shot bosses like they do in DS1 doesn't mean they aren't useful. Straight Sword 1HR1 is overtuned, but this is literally every new players first attack so it's been tuned to suit a particular audience.

>>170837224
Which one? There's at least 3 in Lost Bastille.

>>170837269
I did just mean the Darks.
You're right about Demons. Holy shit. I can forgive it because it's the very first, very experimental game, but still true.
Dead wrong about BB. LHB is strong but doesn't come close to being the end-all, be-all, and specialty builds are only inaccessible when talking about Chalice stuff. Which I guess is fair, but I've never heard of a pve build so specialized that it needs a chalice weapon and nothing else will do.

>>170837593
what's the secret ending?

>>170837224
you get twinkling titanite every time you kill him

>>170837898
4 even.

>>170838008
Where you kill the Firekeeper and seize the First Flame for yourself.

>>170838008
Kill the firekeeper and stomp on her face.

>>170836919
>I bought a game that is designed so that the fun comes from the sense of satisfaction from learning through failure and overcoming challenges, and I'm butthurt someone is looking down on me for getting someone else to play the game for me

>>170838008
The secret modified ending?
When you let the Firekeeper snuff out the flame you can hit her during a short window and take the flame for yourself. It's pretty neat

>>170838178
oh sweet, i'm going to do this

>>170834224
Try rolling.

Seriously, learn to roll past them for a backstab, or guard break them for a riposte. They're enemies from the first real area of the game, they can't make them too hard. Later versions just do more damage and take more punishment, they don't have any appreciably different moves (greatsword knights excluded because they don't show up until lothric castle.)

>>170837224
Where? The courtyard with the dogs archer towers? Don't just rush right into it, trim the herd first. The pursuer there won't spawn until you start going down the courtyard, plenty of space to fight some dogs. Or just ignore the whole thing and go through the boards.

>>170828686
I always believed they had shit people play previews of games on purpose, so people see how shit they play and want to do it right

If I want to do a sorcery run, is starting sorcerer actually advisable, or is it shit because of the luck and I should go knight again?

>>170838240
watch out not to miss it. I had no idea you could do that until I read about it

>>170838268
>they can't make them too hard
Oh yes they can. Again, first knight, more deaths than any boss. All knights, more deaths than all bosses.

I've tried. Believe me, I've tried. Bashed, bashed, bashed.

>>170838164
>I call out people on asking for help with a boss and strawman their arguments so that I can feel happy that once again I won an internet argument

>>170838614
Then your timing is off.

>>170838443
Starting sorcerer is good unless you need the knights str dex and vit.

>>170838337
yea I know about those guys, I just don't want to waste my time/effigys on him. The ganksquad I was referencing in the post was the 4 greatsword hollows after you unpetrify that guy

>>170838667
>argument
>responding to tone

All you have to say is "this is hard and I'd rather not try to get better at it. also you're mean :'("

Clearly it's not "nearly impossible" if everyone else can do it.

>>170837992
The amount of effort required to make a bloodtinge or arcane build in Bloodborne versus a simple physical one is pretty absurd. Consider that Bloodtinge has two physical weapons in the entire game that actually scale off of your stat (rifle spear and reiter don't count, their only bloodtinge scaling comes from their gun abilities, not their physical attacks). One of them is all the way at the tail end of the DLC, and the other requires you to have cleared a significant amount of the game to even reach.

Arcane isn't as awful as there's gems that can convert the scaling on your weapon, but a fair amount of your utility is still locked behind late places in the game. An arcane character at low level is infinitely more of a hassle to make than any standard physical build. And god help you if you want to be a low/mid-level ayy or anything.

>>170838890
Oh. Yeah, that part sucks.
Fight them in the doorway, fight them on the bridge, fight them on the platform with the last two guys. Either have enough room to move or make it so their numbers don't matter.

>>170838890
Use a thrusting weapon with decent range (estoc, spears) and fight them on the bridge immediately before the petrified dude, where you can keep the all in your sights.

>>170838965
Haha holy shit you can't read if you really think I'm asking for help because I think it's nearly impossible

>>170838240
it's by far the coolest of all four endings, have fun

Anyone on PS4 want to dupe soul of a great champion?

>>170833327

>favorites
Those Smouldering Lake demons with chest fireballs, AoA wolves, Lothric Knights

>hated
Those shotel skeletons with kukri, dogs, the ghru that only grab and jump

Most of the hate only comes if I'm using a very slow weapon or casting, though.

>>170839046
That's because BT and arcane were intended as secondary stats, not primary. Hence why there are so few weapons which scale primarily with them, and none of the starting weapons use those stats.

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>>170834397
>Jesus fuck HOW.
You kind of have to do this. At a higher level you may be able to blow the shield off with the WA, since that doesn't bounce off. Against the sword knights you can hit the shield with R2, but even R2 bounces off against the Spear+Greatshield guy, and you can't 2H like a Straightsword can.

>>170838443
I found sorcerer start fine and incredibly easy

>>170833327
Millwood and Corvian knights are both challenging and well designed enemies. I also really enjoy fighting the guys with a cross strapped to their back in crucifixtion woods. Ds3 really has satisfying enemies to fight.
Most annoying are the smoldering lake demons with infinite poise who summon fireballs. I also hate rats. Teleporting dogs are fuckers too. And lastly the crossbowmen in lothric castle who shoot through walls.

>>170840003
>barefist parry
>swap weapons
>riposte
Or
>get deep axe from mimic
>2hr2
Or
>backstab

Having some chest armor might help.

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>>170840003
Meanwhile an Axe run looks like this...

Oh boy it's another episode of invader with 50% of his actual range and host with 200% more range.
I find it fun the idiots who kite away from me continually. I go in for a hit and not only blatantly miss but they can hit me from a good two rolls off. I can sum up DaS3 with a few words "fuck you gaijin" the video game.

>>170840234
Yes a viable strategy for killing Lothric Knights with Twinblades is to not use Twinblades. Well done.

Taking chest off a Mercenary gives you just under 30% weight for the long roll. Just feels better to use.

>>170840257
>non-scaling infused weapon is better than uninfused dex weapon at low SLs with low STR/DEX/INT/FTH/LCK
Who would have guessed? Stupid waifufag put a shirt on.

Redpill me on Morne's Greathammer

>>170840480
I think the point here is that the axe isn't going to be shut down by a shield as hard as the twinblades are.

>place sunbro sign down
>You are being summoned
>As a hostile phantom
???

>>170840480
The important part is not the damage. It's the fact that it doesn't matter when you hit the guy so you don't have to catch recovery frames. Just walk up and hit it. If it's winding up you'll break its poise and stagger it, if it blocks you can just keep on swinging and break the shield. Anything weightier than a 1H straight sword (Including 2H straight swords) will plow through Lothric Knights for free.

>>170840704
Is a boss and weapon in DS3.

>>170836483
For starters, there's a bunch of WAs and weapons that go through shields, so they're not viable in PvP outside of skill shields like BKS.

And in PvE, there's a lot of enemies with moves specifically designed to burn through your shield and stamina. You can use shields fine against most mobs, but a lot of bosses (especially Champ) can dump straight through your stamina.

Also, they're nowhere near as good as the first two games. DaS1's Tower Shield had 86 stability (higher than anything in DaS3), was purchasable via merchant and was the lightest greatshield that still gave 100% physical block. Artorias's Greatshield was a bit heavier but was even more stable (88 stability, you lost 17% less stamina per hit than even the Tower Shield).

In DaS2 you had Baneful Bird Ring, and could stack that with Strong Magic Shield (which also lasts at least 4 times longer than it did in DaS1, and twice as long as in DaS3). Put those two on a Havel's or Gyrm, and you had a 93 stability greatshield that blocked 100% of all incoming damage, including spells, for 60 seconds (or up to at least 84 seconds if you also have Lingering Dragoncrest +2).

>>170840448
That long roll may not be worth the defense penalties from not wearing four pieces of armor. In DaS3 one piece of Havel's with three empty slots gives damage reduction than master's set with ragged mask and loincloth because of how flat defense and absorption work. Those 30% rolls would be worth it if they had more iframes than 70% rolls.

For twinblades, wait for them to end their chain and attack immediately after. Early game twinblades aren't the greatest, but midgame and after they become DPS monsters. The WA doesn't bounce of shields if that's what's giving you trouble.

>>170840917
You're right, but I don't need defense to make a 20 second webm of a fighting an enemy in the first zone of the game. It feels better to use, it isn't more effective.

Honest chances of any more leaks or another early release screw up for TRC before the end of the month?

>>170830827

>occult weapons are made from divine weapons
>way of white clerics are 100% humans
>ariamis painting also shrouded you in white light
>fire keeper souls are pure white
>human souls are pure white

it always was, you just never noticed before.

Is STR really the only viable DS2 build?

If not, what is fun

>>170841328
Not playing DaS2 is best.

>>170840480

the part he's talking about is that heavy weapons brute force through shields in DaS3 like they're nothing

>>170841328
HEX IS SEX

Sup /dsg/

I'm on playthrough 3 and I'm at 60/60 str/dex. What's are some good weapons to inscribe?

>>170841328
Twinblade is fun. Vanilla Twinblade, manually aimed, lean to your left to catch with the first part of the hitbox then pivot to the right so you get 3 hits out of the 2HR1, or 4 hits on big targets. Stack flat damage buffs and start to melt things late game.
Takes a long time to come online and is shit when you first pick it up, so start with a Longsword or Blacksteel until you have the rings you need to make it work.

If you wanna go pure Dex then Rapier/Blacksteel/Murakumo.

>>170841328
One of DS2's best points is that most any build is viable. I'm a fan of Int, with enough str/dex to use a good weapon to enchant.

>>170841328
Dex rolley-fag builds are very viable if you put 25 points into VIT and get those tasty iframes

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What should I do before linking the fire ?

>>170842382
Too late now. If you walk out you get the other ending.

>>170842382
If you've already killed Gwyn then it's impossible to do anything else. Leaving the boss room gets Dark Lord ending and linking the flame gets Link the Fire ending.

>>170842382
Kill yourself for being French.

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should i buy nier to hold me over until dlc bros

Quick /dsg/, give me a Ds avatar I can use for discord and steam

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>>170842718

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>>170842718
Nito!

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>>170842718

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>tfw the abyss dragon is man
>tfw the third boss is gael
>tfw ringed city is boring and mediocre

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>>170842718

>>170841328
retard

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>>170842718

>>170842454
>>170842458
Welp.
I got the other ending, time to get the linking one now.

@170842508
How about you kill (you)rself for being the piece of shit that you are ?

>>170841328
I replayed it as faith/str with shitloads of levels sunk into FTH and ATT and it was still pretty ez

Conversely I found the DLC segments incredibly hard compared to the series

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>>170842718

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>Haven't played since before DLC came out

>DS3 doesn't seem to respond to controller inputs
>using a DS3 controller with scptool
>windows and steam respond to inputs, but not the game

>I have changed literally nothing in regards to drivers since the last time I played, when this worked


reeeee what the fuck do I do. I've been trying to disable and enable various input devices in device manager but nothing is working

>>170844017
No joke, have you made sure the controller is the first thing you use at the main menu, and have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in and mashing the buttons

>>170844017
Steam's native PS4 pad support grabs the inputs before SCP so it renders it useless. I haven't found a good way around this. To use Steam's own support go into controller settings for the game and enable PS4 pad support, then you'll need to grab a community made pad profile which changes the control setup to default PS4 layout. You can do all of that within Steam and it'll work again without using SCP.

If gwyn is a god why I can I parry him like a birch?

>>170844681
Because From made it that way

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>>170833402
>put on full havel in ds3
>get shit on

>>170844681
Birch trees don't really have any form of defense aside from their bark, parrying one shouldn't be hard.

>>170844369
Tried that, no luck

>>170844403
>go into controller settings for the game and enable PS4 pad support

Is this within DS3? Or steam? I couldn't find any controller-specific options within the game itself other than vibration level

>tfw soltaire killed Gwyn for me because my pyromancy is too slow
I will never know the true satisfaction of killing fake gods.

>>170833402

First time I fought him I had Black Iron armor on and a Zwei; beat him

You can get hit 2 times without dying and hitting back due to poise, so you just heal up and go back to swinging.

SOC was harder by far.

Seath is the only sword that doesn't die like a bitch to 2h swings of greatswords.

wtf Scholar of the First Sin is $40

>>170844939
Fucking how? Pyromancy rapes Gwyn and SOLAIRE is prone to spamming lightning

If Gwyn went to link the fire, why isn't it linked? Why does the chosen one have to do it?

>>170845224
I stood back and let soltaire tank him.

>>170844912
Go to Bigscreen mode.

Yes I know this is retarded.

>>170844939
>>170845286
>soltaire
leave

>>170845286
It's on a cycle. You have to keep linking it if you want it to come back to full strength.

can someone recommend a good website where I can download dark souls 2 scholar of the first sin?
Gdrive would be appreciated because torrents are risky.

>>170843209
>@170842508
What the fuck

>>170845286
Linking the fire is a temporary solution. Even after linking it, it will continue to fade. Eventually someone will have to link it again or else it will go out.

>>170845286
>If Gwyn went to link the fire, why isn't it linked? Why does the chosen one have to do it?
Not a one and done thing, Gwyn was gradually kindling it why ChosUn just fucking throws himself and all the souls he's collected into it at once.

>>170844939
>Soltaire
>Fake god
Are you stupid?

where is solitaire's summon sign for gwyn?

>>170845680
Gwyn isn't a god. He's just a glorified faggot.

>>170845680
Gwyn isn't really a god because he isn't like a god in abrahamic religions xdddd

>>170845745
How is Gwyn not a god?

>>170845527
Reply please. I found dark souls PTDE on nicoblog(recommended by someone on here) but dark souls 2 scholar of the first sin isn't there.

>>170845745
DaS has an odd idea of divinity, but by the series' standards he is not just a god, but the head of the gods.

>>170845856
He dies and doesn't have infinite power.

>>170845894
The nips do the same in dragonball super. Gods can die for some reason in their culture.

>>170845856

was vendrick a god? was king lothric a god?

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>>170845745
Go home, Kaathe. You're drunk.

>>170845551
hello newfriend

>>170845874
Buy the game cunt.

>>170846042
that's just because japan never had their pantheistic animist system supplanted by an abrahamic system and an abrahamic conception of divinity

>>170846042
What qualifies as a god by your standards in the dark souls series?

>>170846074
You guys are misinterpreting what "God" means in this context. The gods in Dark Souls were a race like humans, pygmies, and demon people/witches. They're not literal gods as you understand the term.

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>>170845874
Someone guide me.

>>170842620
No. You should get your character to NG+7. This is the final DLC of the last Dark Souls game. Gotta do it right

>>170846226
>newfriend
In all the years i've spent in this cesspool i've never seen something that retarded.

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>>170846042
>he dies and doesn't have infinite power
You're mixing up "a god" and "The God"

>>170845745

He's a god, as are all his species.

He's not an all powerful omnipotent being, but he's still a god as what defines them in Dark Souls.

Closer to Greek myth than your Semite shit.

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>>170846427
This anon speaks the truth. Solo NG+7 is the best way to do the final DLC.

>>170846558
i'll give you the benefit of the doubt, though for your information it's used as a means to not give the person you're replying to a (You)

>>170846397
Everyone looks the same checkmate.

>>170846645
>>170846427
For all the issues it has in terms of lack of changes, DS3 does seem to have the best NG+ in terms of how health and damage scales. Nothing seems to get too excessive.

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>>170845335
Wow, you weren't lying, that really was retarded. Why the hell are half of steam's settings buried in there? I never would have thought to look there if you hadn't suggested it.

That helped me figure out the issue, it seemed like some driver fuckery had caused a second 'ghost' controller to be listed. I guess that one was taking precedence over the real one for the game.

Thanks for the help

>>170846407
Here you go, friend.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/335300/

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>>170846879
I'm not a dumb goy.
Give me a real link.
I already played dark souls 1 for free

>>170846694
>it's used as a means to not give the person you're replying to a (You)
Then why even respond.
It's not like he's going to notice your post.

>>170847054
to show disdain, idk
some anons prefer to use it but if someone makes a retarded post I just ignore it

>>170847001
>i'm not dumb
You're pretty fucking retarded if you need help with finding a torrent.

>>170847001
www.learn2bootl.eg/dsii-sotfs

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>>170847001
>I'm not a dumb goy
You're certainly pretty dumb though.

>>170847001
All right, maybe this is more your speed then.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/dark-souls-ii-scholar-of-the-first-sin/bvbq72fdb4lk

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I feel like a cunt

Sony x From = Greatness

Namco x From - Rushed, Unfinished, Season Passes, Cash Grabs

so how dead is the return to Yharnam event gonna be

>>170847328
>season pass implies there is another season of dlc
>there never is

hol up

>>170847317
It's his own damn fault for deciding to fight mobs when he knows there's an invader about.

>>170847001

>not using piratebay

idio

https://uk.gamesplanet.com/game/dark-souls-ii-scholar-of-the-first-sin-steam-key--1003-3

>>170847317
>Using Gundyr's crutch

>>170847490
I spawned like right behind him lmao

>>170842954
>Vilhelm's helmet is literally half the size of a normal characters head and has no jawspace at all
>Most helmets just have flat grey textures instead of slots or holes to the face
>Head equipment that literally sits 4-5 inches higher on the head for no reason
>Knight helmet gorget gets removed from nearly ever set, exposing the neck
>Silver and Black Knight helmets expose the neck
>This will never be fixed
Fuck Miyazaki

>>170847458
You need to pay Sony to use the multiplayer portion for that game, right? I can't imagine many people deciding to buy a subscription just for that. And anybody who already does have a subscription is probably already playing the game anyways since it's one of the few good games for the system.

>>170847559
>not liking good weapons
nice claw build faggot

>>170847502
>>170847316
>>170847291
>>170847254
>>170847194
I can't use conventional torrents because the government watches them.

>>170847610
Not an argument.

Why is bloodborne so much better than the other games in the series guys?

>>170847761

what dogshit retard country do you live in?

>>170847291
>that edit
wow
that was fast

>>170847458
>paid online
>online was already relatively empty to start with because of paid online and idiotic matchmaking system

dead as fuck

Haven't played since well before the first DLC was a thing, what's the "Meta" level again? And what were the recommended VIG/END stats?

Were there any weapons in Ashes worth building a character for? How is the DLC? How is the meta currently? Haven't played much since August

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>>170847761

>>170847810
not an argument isn't an argument either

>>170847761
Then I guess you're out of luck then.

Oh wait, I have one more link that maybe you could try.

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/dark-souls-ii-scholar-of-the-first-sin/cid=UP0700-CUSA01760_00-DARKSOULS2000003

How long will Siegward wait at the fire demon?

>>170847853
germany fits that bill

>>170847997
Level 120 for duels, 40 is the softcap for vig/end.

>>170831272
Does that Knight look fucked up?

>>170848258
If germany would watch torrents I would have an army of police officers at my door.
So don't talk shit about my shitty home country. We just censor youtube videos.

>>170848287
I haven't gone 40 End since DaS1

>>170848287
You mean hardcap for end. It stays at 160

>>170848535
You get one stamina for every six levels in END past 40. It's one hell of a softcap, but it's still a softcap.

>>170848001
DLC had some notable weapons.
Millwood axe is the best light weapon for strenght builds and its weapon guard works nice against turtlefags. Friede's scythe may just be the best scythe in the franchise, on par with ds1 great scythe and bb burial blade. Quakestone hammer has amazing tracking for its kind and the weapon art obliterates anyone who isnt prepared for it, easily doing a 2 hit ~800 damage on my 40 str build. The crow quils make for the first interesting rapier in ds3. The javelin is fun for duels while using a weapon art shield. And the follower sabre and valorheart are top tier quality pvp weapons.

Source: I just beat ludex gundyr, trust me

>>170847328
The Sony FROM games were also rushed and unfinished though

>>170848761
Note: the best light weapon was meant for pve. For pvp you have lacking reach, recovery and poise. Still fast and quite strong

>>170848751
I really hoped Andre would just come hurtling down in a plunging attack on the center guy.

>>170848287
27 is optimized softcap for vigor, the the definitive softcap is at 40.
Also faith/int caps are at 45/60 and the luck cap is at 70

>>170848761
>Friede's scythe may just be the best scythe in the franchise
Trolling new players like this is mean.

>>170848751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHq68t2kgwM

>>170848442
I live right above you and I got already got a warning.

>>170848761

you forgot the hp regen shield with 100% block

>>170833402
i did this the first playthrough because i have never learned to parry. And i did it the second time as well. Fuck parrying

>>170849258
That I did. Scores high on utility, stability/weight ratio, and motherfucking fashion

>>170841328
the best thing i have seen is Bonefist/Caestus with that sick Kickboxing moveset. Im getting it right now after i fucking kill Aava https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USAU3vQ5Nd0

>>170848116
>>170848051
>>170847853
Right I'm heading to private tracker general. Maybe there's hope there.

>>170828686
anyone want to help a brother out at Throne of Want soul memory 1483441

>>170849684
What is happening here?

>>170849563
>tfw no wuxia souls

>>170849563
Can you do ANYTHING like that in DaS3? I have never equipped the Caestus nor Demon's Fist in DaS3.

>>170847328
>Cash Grabs
>Gash Crabs
>Giant Crabs that inflict build up bleed

I want a dark souls NPC that's just a shopkeeper sitting on top of a giant pile of gold and trinkets

And he's really smug and proud of it. The whole time he'd be laughing at you for not being nearly as rich as him

>>170848151
Until you trigger the patches encounter in the Cathedral. If you do that before killing the demon it just skips that portion.

>>170850150
Not even close. There is a moveset similar to gundyr's punches and kicks, but it's unavailable to the player
>>170849998
Pontiff eye second stage.

>>170850439
A shame. Highly unlikely they'll put anything like that in TRC.

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>>170850206
>mfw I realize Miyazaki is just crazy enough to include a giant crab boss in the final DLC
>mfw I realize that, even with all the variations, we've yet to see a Dark-infused crab

>>170850614
The little crab in the skeleball accompanies a dark gem
It was foreshadowing

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>>170850614

>>170850828
Didn't those shoot projectiles similar to what the angels throw?

>>170850828
C-could this be.... The Dark Soul of Man?

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>>170850737
>>170850828

Redpill me on morne's great hammer. Could it be viable at 50 str 60 fth? Is the moveset any good? Gotta know this before I respec.

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Man, this guy is difficult. I only deal 216-218 damage to him per hit and by the time I rarely get him to his second phase, I'm out of estus. I'm just trying to get his soul as soon as possible so I can get his weapon the moment I can from Ornifex.

Any tips on fighting Fume Knight? I know not to attack him when he blocks and how it's not safe to heal in most situations considering his delayed combo extensions. Also, yes. I am trying to git gud, it's just very difficult for this fight.

>made the host and his butt brigade chase me around the map twice while exhausting their estus
>before they finally cornered me I threw a turd behind me and black crystal'd out
No better feeling bros.

The first flame is divine.

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>>170851063
Yes.
They also have a small miracle resonance ring near their tendrils.
Tendrils themselves are the same as the growth on the back of Oceiros.
And the funny part is that in NPC id list he's called DragonAngel.

>>170851154
>>170851646
we were crabs all along.

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>>170850614
>DaS1 had spider waifu
>DaS2 had scorpion waifu
>DaS3 will have crab waifu

>>170850828

>go back and watch a vid of the vagrant

>red phantom
>has the same head tendrils as oceiros
>shoots divine projectiles
>literally has way of white circlets float out of its head as a particle effect

what did miyazaki mean by this?

>>170851503
In the first phase, it's easiest to simply run away from him. He has no followups to his little jumping or dashing attacks so it's always safe to punish them or heal after dodging one. The main difficulty of the first phase comes from his constant 3-4 hit combos draining your stamina. You circumvent this by running and baiting his gap-closing moves instead.

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>>170851646

You're divine, anon.

>>170851351
It's shit. Don't think it can be parried though

the last boss is a fucking vagrant. fucking miyazaki

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>>170851839
>last DLC is going balls deep into the whole multiverse thing and ends up with fighting a true God and creator of the soulsverse

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What do you think guys?

Since the last DLC is out, dark souls is over isn't it?

>>170851787
Who was the drawfriend who made that for us? Because they're awesome.

What's the simplest way to create characters for DaS3 PVP without actually having to grind through the PVE for the umpteenth time? CE?

>>170851503
https://youtu.be/qKK25yhbTZA?t=8m24s
As with most of DS2, think about movement and positioning rather than just roll timing. DS2 undeads are blessed with the fastest sprint startup of any Souls game, just hold the button and sanic the hedgehog out of the way of things on reaction. Fume's swings are slow and his hitboxes accurate, so if you can see free space, just use the free space instead of mashing roll.

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HUMANS ARE THE SONS OF CRABS

BORN OF THE CRAB, CONSUMED BY THE CRAB

FEAR THE OLD CRAB

>>170851745
We are born of the crab. Made men by the crab. Undone by the crab
Fear the old crab

Grant us pincers

>>170852010
>drops 1 humanity
>same description as in 1
>you can give it to the painter and she'll be able to paint her world, having the DARK SOUL™ OF MAN in her possession

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>>170849684
You're responsible for this

>>170852357
spawn in 99 soul of great champion and use them all at once to prevent any invalid data warnings

>>170848913
Bloodborne is not unfinished and it had a full development time.

>>170847328
LOL.
The reason DeS is the way it is is because Sony had absolutely no faith in the game and wrote it off as a failed project. That's also why they let Miyazaki to do as he pleased with the game. With Bloodborne Sony wanted a system seller and poured money at From to help make it so.
Also, the actual talent of From Software was making Bloodborne so the B team was handling DS2.

As far as Bamco is concerned... Well, they own the Dark Souls i.p so they might as well milk it as much they can y'know?

>>170852535
Carthus beacon lasts too little and you'll never manage to get the second stage if you only hit 1 person