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Old thread >>170724271

>Discord-sponsored tournament on March 25:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0 [Embed]
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU [Embed]
Redacted "Capital Knight" armor set screenshots: http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS, read with a grain of salt): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
Leaked first boss fight (link ded again): https://sendvid.com/ppo6urmb
Famitsu screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/A6diD
TRC gameplay from PAX East stream: https://mega.nz/#!nFUhTJTY!sVWEb4jeiteATO9mFWKPmtOuyPQiPI6IKEWXH1uS3qo

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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>>170779520
>almost 20 posts early
>fucked up the embeds

Don't make threads if you don't know how, retard.
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>>170779520
>That OP image
kek, saved.
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Is Llewllyn set the best minmax set in the game? Looks like it has better stats than Alva while also having half the weight requirement.
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sadness...
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>>170780259
What happened to her human half?
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>>170780446
Maybe the spider half keeps spreading and eventually completely covers up the human half.
Or some undead came by and cut it off to use as a sex toy
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>>170780446
Freed by Quelaana's sacrifice.
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I need some who can effectively nuke the Gravetender boss or close enough to it. I only have one ember left and I need someone strong enough to help me blast through this guy and get Valorheart. I will either help or stay out of your way while you do your thing, whatever you prefer.
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>>170780841
>having difficulty with gravetender

Are you SL 1 or something? You can literally just slap on his shield and he'll guard break a million times in a row, killing him before his bitch wolf can even do anything.
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why cant anything but quality get good scaling in this game
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>>170780841
are embers tradeable? i can give you some and help you with the boss, i'm not gonna guarantee a victory 1st shot though
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>>170780904
The giant wolf part is the problem. The gravetender himself is fine, but that wolf has chewed through every single one of my embers.
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>>170781006
Yes they are and absolutely. Depths of the Painting bonfire and password dsg sound good?
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>>170781002
That's still at least a 270 AR dagger before you factor in scaling when you get that thing to +5/+10, so odds are you're going to be packing close to 400 AR (or more) depending on how the scaling improves with upgrades.
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>>170781036
Just give it the runaround around the columns until you get an angle on the Gravetender, and smash his ass in. Then keep a shield up and dodge its attacks until you find an opening.

The trick is that each one individually is piss weak, so you just need to separate them and pick off the Gravetender.
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>>170781036
He has the same attacks as the regular giant wolves that you fight earlier though. You can even riposte him for basically all his HP. Did you never fight Sif/Royal Rat/anything on four legs?
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>>170781120
ok coming
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>>170781002
Scaling improves with upgrades you obtuse fucknugget. Complain about it after we see it at +10.
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Who needs a summon in ds3 PC?
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>>170781141
>270 AR of split damage
>when flat defenses and absorption negate more than half of that
>when corvian greatknife gets 280 solid physical
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>>170781428
It'll be worse than corvian + bundles, we all know that already
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>>170781428
How convenient of you to ignore the part that says "before scaling." Try waiting to see how that changes before you whine about it.
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>>170781384
Do you want to team against one or split off?
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>>170781428
>the guy who showed it off had it at +0 without enough INT to even wield it
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Is 4 and 6 player brawl ded on PC? Any anons wanna do some brawls??
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>>170781002

I'm curious how the AR will be affected by its WA Sword form, if it'll keep the same AR or have some modifier to its damage during it. Based on the one attack they showed of the WA form on the stream it looks only about as fast as a regular SS meaning it'll need something else too if it's going to stand out in that form.
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>>170781850
whichever you'd like
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>>170781910
It probably just flat out does more damage in the WA form since the unfolding animation just looks like you're entering stance
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Post fashion.
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>>170781850
sorry dude i died, i'm down for trying until you're back to as many embers as you had though.
Going to try a diff weapon setup maybe i'll hit harder
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Ok so Aldrich is a goo person right? Wouldn't he get hurt if you stabbed your weapon into the floor, which is his body?
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>>170781920
i think if I can just keep the wolf distracted running around the pillar, then that should give you some breathing room to kill the gravetender.
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Would anyone on PS4 like to help me beat Iron Passage? SM is 3 million. If you're out of range, we can use the name ring set to Caffrey.
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>>170782187
sounds good
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>>170782139
Same, I think I'm going to just grab the uchi for some bleed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KvSl92NqtI

do you guys think this is a tranny
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>>170782312
Probably just a waifufag
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>>170782312
Who cares?
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>>170782312
Who cares about what uglies some literally who youtube "celebrity" has?
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>>170782159
>weapon has a weapon art designed to fuck over anything that uses a shield
>doesn't use it

That Lothric Knight was screaming at the guy to guardbreak and parry him and he didn't

This is why I hate watching other people play games
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>>170782294
sign's down
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>tfw you realize a you can fit 18fth onto a dex/int build at 120 and use literally every fun weapon in the game optimally on the same character
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>>170782734
Fuuuck, I'm so sorry I died dude
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>One-shot Pontiff on my first attempt.
>Die eight times like a bitch to Old Demon King before beating him.

That should not have been such an ordeal.
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>>170782294
PHEW almost had it, sorry i don't hit very hard
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>>170783228
i'm having fun :) just sorry it takes me so long to get the gravetender down
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PC HW FC
pass: dsg
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Anyone SL ~52 want to help this old man kill a giant worm?
I turned off the ballista so we don't have to worry about that shooting us in the back.
Once we're done with that we can have our merry way with the old demon cunt
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>>170783416
>leaving the worm alive
The madman
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>>170783416
Can SL 80 help or too far ahead?
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>>170783492
What's the fun in cheesing it to death?
However, in hindsight, I may not have thought this one through.
He one shot me
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>>170783495
Too far ahead
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I'm using the dragonslayer greataxe, how do i compensate for players who know how to dodge this weapon reliably?

Not locking on? Getting a shield? Swapping for yhorm's? Is there another greataxe i should be using?
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>>170783228
we could try kiting the wolf around the pillars after the gravetender is dead also
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>>170783248
>>170783339
Nah it's cool, my hits aren't that hard either
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>>170783601
BKGA and Yhorm's are the only GA worth using.
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Does anyone have the most recent tier lists for DaS1 and 3?
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>>170783495
>>170783416
just password it and itll scale him down
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>>170783651
sounds good
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>>170783808
only tier list you need :^)
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>>170783952
hmmm
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>>170783849
Too late I killed it, on the king
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https://youtu.be/PI7nRkq9CEo

Now you won't have to buy a crappy console to play DeS.
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>>170783681
Shame, the DS gaxe has a fantastic weapon art and absurc damage. Yhorm's it is.
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>>170784196
now all you need is a godlike computer because this POS emulator lags to hell and back just trying to display a simple fireball

also, DeS is massively overrated
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>>170783808
I got this, dunno if it's the most recent.
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>>170783952
I'm looking for the ones like pic related.
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>>170783952
So does versatility mean fun in this context?
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>>170783863
OMG lol that wolf glitched around that pull. i just realized how much damage my bleed spell does holy cow
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>>170784323
Thank you. All I need now is the DaS1 tier list. I remember that it was much more color coded and vertical, but I don't know what the most recent version is.
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Anybody know where I could find Scholar item swap cheat table now that the forums are fucked I hear?
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>>170784283
Emulation relies more on CPU so if you've got a beast one then you're good to go. I'd say wait a year and it'll be completely playable.

Might be overrated. But if you haven't played it, it doesn't hurt, r-right?
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>>170784551
I know, my eyes popped out when I saw the damage it did.
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It's a pain in the ass not being able to collect souls in this game. This is my current level should I even bother with the agape ring? I've gotten invaded by a couple human plays in the Iron Keep and that wanna be sens fortress with poison area
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>>170782268
Never mind, I went ahead and did it by myself in the end.

Special thanks goes to the invader who wrecked me in an honourable 1v1, who may or may not have been from here.
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>>170784047
The Kak

>>170784442
It just means what you can do with it, ideally. Rose is a pretty low tier weapon but you can do a lot of things with it, like use it as a smack stick, a catalyst, a buff catalyst, or purely just to use the strong buff at the start of a match
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>>170784620
I'm almost certain someone asked the same question a few threads back and got a link. try the archive
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>>170784634
LOL i'm having more fun than i should be. i keep laughing when the wolf gets loose and you have to run around like a rancher herding cows or something
it wouldn't be so bad if i could do more dmg to the gravetender
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>>170784554

Here you go
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>>170784780
Where have you been?
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>>170785058
>when the wolf gets lose
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>>170785168
He's been here. where have you been?
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>>170785103
>velka's rapier in bad tier
>arty's sword in high tier
>great lord greatsword above bastard sword
every damn time
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>>170785168
Barcelona
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>>170785103
>Estoc turtle
>Flipspears
>Hornetclub
>DMB Stone Greatsword

triggered
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>>170785183
hahah ironic you typo'd loose cause i did that too but saw it and corrected it
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>>170785103
Why did DS1 have the most fun weapons
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>>170785103
Sweet. Thanks, man. I'm going to love using those amazing "You Died" tier weapons. I want to make an Ultraman build with the Crystal Ring Shield.
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>>170785271

>Velka's Rapier
>a split damage short rapier meaning it doesn't benefit as much from Leo Ring and takes more stats to get optimal damage that you can't use on Health and Endurance
>also has a stylish but practically useless heavy attack

>Abyss Greatsword meanwhile at +10 humanity has really decent damage and has nothing else that makes it worse than a Claymore

>no opinion on GLGS
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>>170785058
I know, I'm kiting a giant carnivorus cow around, keeps making me do homer simpson screams when it glitches though the pillars at me.
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>>170785404
glgs has very good damage even staying at base reqs
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>made from the literal dark soul of man
>shits divine magic when you touch it

unironically what did miyazaki mean by this?
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>>170785404
Velka's damage is low but perfectly serviceable. It's a fine option for int builds. Despite the inferior strong attacks it's a good weapon by virtue of being a rapier with rapier r1s, the ability to turtlepoke, and high crits. And iirc the abyss greatsword has pretty odd and demanding stat requirements meaning it can't be used effectively on any build without wasting stats that could have been put into vit or end, as you point out for the rapier.
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>>170785421
DID HE DIE!?
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I'm SL30 and can connect to as low as lv 17

whats the comfiest place to help people in ds3? So far crucifixtion woods is nice cause people can go to farron or go to crystal sage
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>>170785058
So clooooose....
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>>170785756
I have 4 embers left if you run out
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>>170784196
GIVE
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>>170785103
>warpick bad tier
>ricard's high tier
>dark silver tracer mid tier
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>>170785603

>dark soul can create painted worlds
>fix painted worlds
>heal people
>remove illness
>literally keep people from dying
>can also kill people

treuly it is the best soul
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>>170785834
Soon, my child.
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>>170784627
It's massively overrated but it still does neat things and you get a fuzzy feeling from seeing all the groundwork it laid out for the next four games. Plus, it helps reduce the price of getting the proper rite of passage as a diehard Souls(borne) fan.
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>>170785917
What digital person do I stalk to know when soon is?
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>>170785851
Toxic isn't as useful as Bleed is in direct confrontations, but I can't help you out with those other two. Ricard's is only high tier if they have low poise, which a true PvPer wouldn't
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>>170785603

furtive pygmies name is man
all these people everyone thinks are part of the gwyn royal bloodline are actually part of man's royal bloodline
gwyn is man's brother or something who cares time is convoluted
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>>170782083
I like your berserk reference guy.
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>>170784829
I think I recall the same thing. But I just went through 5 of those thread trying to CTRL+F "Scholar" "ds" and "cheat". No luck.

If any anon has knowledge on this, please be kind and share. Fuck soul memory.

Can't play 3, because apparently my key from g2play was a "beta" key or whatever the fuck(got my money back) and 1 is just not worth it anymore imo.
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>>170782083
>that very last character
I bet it looks like shit in actual motion because of neckguard memes
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>>170784283

>DeS
>massively overrated

please commit suicide
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>>170786009
RPCS3 is open-source so there's a bunch of people helping it be made.

But follow their official site: https://rpcs3.net/
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>>170786048
Try searching for "table" instead. Or "mega."
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>>170786028
Nobody uses the dark silver tracer as a main weapon, you pull it out for backstabs and ripostes. it's very good at its purpose

Sunlight blade ricard's rapier is great fun for wrecking shitters who either have no poise or don't know how to counter it but it certainly isn't high tier
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>>170785812
It's okay, I still have eight more, I used up my homeward bones to save on embers.
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Where could I find an unpatched version of the original Dark Souls 2 (preferably, without DLC)? The only suitable repackage I could find was by RG Mechanics, but it's all patched up and includes the DLC. I only ever played through SotFS, so I'm curious what the original base-game was like before all the other stuff happened.
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>>170786124
Thank you, anon!
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>>170786194

better enemy placements, worse everything else
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>>170784679
found me a second zweihander that i'll never use ever
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>>170786132
Hey thanks Anon. I found it now. Turns out my previous searches actually did light up the post, but somehow I scrolled past it. Have a picture of a woman I guess
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and what even is this? a complete waste?
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early morning /dsg/ is so trash, go to bed losers
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>>170786182
teehehehehe i giggled like a girl
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Any have the audio or video of that white zone with the ghost black knights right before you enter the last area of DS1? The ambiance was very soothing.
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>>170786194
your best bet might be just to find a 'first playthrough' series on youtube from when the game came out by the most reasonably tolerable person you can find

>>170786351
powerstance them mate
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>>170785103
I remember when the Crystal Ring Shield shat out literally thousands of damage per shot. Good times.
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>>170786454
Yeah because your whining really contributes to the quality doesn't it?
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>>170786454
But I just woke up, anon
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>>170786042
Your pic is what got me to make my own in the first place

>>170786115
You'd think, but Leonhard's chestpiece has a pretty high collar so it covers the neck completely.
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>>170786434
forgot pic.
I also switched to jpeg
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>>170786491
I'm not even mad on that last one, graventender predicted everything and wiped me. If that were the arena I would have applauded him
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>>170786507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtf-2nz6je4

simultaneously comfy and a bit unnerving. the best atmosphere
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>>170786507
I still wonder what the stair dimension is.
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>>170786665
its > take 2 bonfires to the final boss
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>>170786510
I love you anon!
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>>170786556
Most Pharros contraptions are a waste. That one is meant to help you get the chest in the lava I assume, but the problem is that there's water jars on the other side of the furnace and two doors that provide a shortcut.

Feel glad you didn't use the one at No-Man's Wharf, it opens you up to sniper fire from the Varangians on the cliff, when you're on the docks.
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>>170786568
hahahaha ahaha SO CLOSEEE
that frost breath scares the hell out of me
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>>170786723
Not good enough. You need to get huge and pump Strength until you can powerstance those bad boys, not just dual wield them.
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>>170786427
i wanna lick her armpit
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>>170785103
>coolest looking straight sword is worst straight sword
Why is this allowed?
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>>170786863
How does one achieve this powerstance? dual wielding them is cool on it's own anyway
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>>170786948
Dual wielding just means you get mirrored attacks based on which button you press. Power-stancing means you swing both weapons at once and do a bunch of damage in one instance.

You need to reach 150% of the weapon's Str and Dex requirements, then hold down Triangle/Y.
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>>170786948
You need like 1.5 times the requirements of your weapons. Then, hold down whatever button you press to twohand normally. Become unstoppable.
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>>170786948
1.5x the stat reqs and holding the two-hand button.
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what's a good shield in dark souls 2? these kids are really annoying, every other person has lightning or magic of some sort
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>>170787051
>>170787063
>>170787082
Looks like I'm gonna be pumping everything into dex and str now
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>>170786568
fuck, that was some dbz shit i couldn't lock on to dodge cause i couldn't see him from dashing around
srry
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>>170786857
>>170787207

Ok, so. Any tips on what you need me to do to get the wolf into optimal bleed position?

>The wolf knows instant transmission
God help us all...
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>>170787249
whatever you need to do to stay alive, is all i know to say
if my bleeds are missing its my fault
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>>170787278
are you guys playing on pc or ps4
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>>170787107
Watcher's shield has very high physical, lighting, and dark defence, and it's a small shield with decent stability.
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>>170787107
Just roll through their attacks instead of blocking. And put on Dispelling Ring +1, with whatever Quartz Ring counters the magic they're using. Then cast Great Magic Barrier.

If you insist on a shield, just put on Tower + Baneful Bird, then cast Strong Magic Shield. Either that or use Rebel's.
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>>170787306
we just beat him
we were on pc
sorry i'm sure we coulda used your help cause i kinda suck
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>>170787278
YES FUCK YES THANK YOU! I have like 2 embers left you want them back man. God bless bleed magic!
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>>170787249
>>170787685
was that NG or NG+ or what?
and no problem that was a blast
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Does anybody want to help an SL70 at Nameless King? I can usually get him, but I think I'm stating to tilt. Password is dsg.
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>>170787746
on PC?
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>>170787720
NG, man that was thrilling. Almost makes me consider doing the SL1 runs.

Thank you again so much! I'm going to go make a sandwhich and eat it while crying on the kitchen floor.
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>>170787789

Correct. Sorry, that would be pretty useful information to include.
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what's a weapon that will allow me to beat anyone with minimal skill
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>>170787796
i was hoping it was NG++++ so i'd feel better about how hard i hit
yeah that was alot of fun
thanks for the summon
>>170787830
yeah i'll help
i'll put sign by that closest bonfire to nameless
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>>170787849
Yhorm machete+simple/blessed caestus+hornet ring
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>>170787849
people with minimal skill are easy to beat no matter what you use
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>>170787849
bleed infused great lance with blessed porcine shield
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I am incredibly bored, anybody want to do a dried finger run of NG Irythill? Pass is dsg if anybody is interested.
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>>170787849
Gothard's Twinsword rolling R1's
Washing Pole running R1's

Just be careful, anyone worth their salt seeing you try to spam that shit will parry you. Otherwise you'll still claim a lot of kills off people who don't know how to adapt or react.
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>>170726068
I did that last night because I was feeling naughty and knew that the darkmoon would absolutely use estus when I was out of it.

Still the worst thing I've done in a souls game.
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>>170788012
>Gothard's Twinsword rolling R1's
lol
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>>170787849
drang spears with rotten resin
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>>170787983
Sure, let me load my washing machine.
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>>170787890

Thanks. I don't think I've ever seen anybody tear through him that quickly.
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>>170788027
I'm aware that it got nerfed but it still catches people and does pretty stupid damage.
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>>170788052
whoa there are people that don't play on PC? Probably should have mentioned what platform I was on
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>>170788054
yeah the wiki said they were weak to bleeds, i should've trusted the wiki from the very beginning
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>>170787983
yeah be there in a sec
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>>170788023
On second thought, I did get summoned afterwards as a darkmoon only for the host to pull the plug just as I arrived so I guess karma works out.
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>>170788109
Admittedly /dsg/ seems to be predominately PC but there are a handful of us on PS4 as well. I don't think anyone here plays on xbone.
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>"A" team
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>>170787849
twin prince's greatsword
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>>170787830
My sign is down at Great Belfry bonfire, password is dsg right?
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>>170787916
i was talking about me
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>>170788161
I think there's literally one or two guys that have an X-Bone.
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>>170782083
>tfw to smart for fashion
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>>170787849
Titanite catch pole.
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>>170788232
people with minimal skill are easy to beat no matter what they use
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>>170788180

We were able to tear him a new asshole. Thanks though.
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>>170788259
>there are people who have lower INT than their SL
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>>170787643
ah well

if you need help with friede i will be lurking
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>>170785603

What does?
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>>170788169
Somehow I can hear him spamming the HELP ME stone.
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>>170788169

It's okay, Stephen Hawking can't use stairs either.
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just beat DaS3 this week, DaS1 last week.

should I continue with the souls and go BB or try out other games like BotW or Nier or HZD?
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>>170788879
BB and DS2 might be worth your time. DS2 is definitely the weakest, but it's not a bad game.

If you feel like moving on, I had fun with BotW for the 2 hours I played it.
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>>170788259
>claims to be too smart for fashion
>leveled strength
>doesn't wear dusk crown

2/10 would not write a dissertation on the secret connections between dragons and sorcery with
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>>170788879
There's a reason people call their consoles "Bloodborne Boxes," play it.
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>>170788879
I think it all depends on your enjoyment you got out of the souls games you have played. I'd say go with BB next. I haven't played BotW or Nier but both look super fun. I have played HZD and it was an enjoyable playthrough so you couldn't go wrong there.
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Well shit, I thought somebody would have invaded us at some point. You guys want to dick around with Faithfuls for a while?
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>>170789196
I would, but it's getting late.
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>implying I need more than 13 str to wields the legendary moon sword
>implying I need to wear some faggy winged crown to use magic
Free yourself from the shackle the dragon school my friend and study the universe itself
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>>170788998
>>170789023
>>170789061

thanks for the input guys :)

i've never felt so accomplished in a single player game until playing DaS1/3, i'm itching to play BB but i want to try my hand at some more relaxing games
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>>170789196
i'm gonna go to sleep now my man, thanks for the run though
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Can someone drop me (or help me trade it between two characters) the Farron Greatsword? I can't do my Abyss Watcher run otherwise. I'm on PC, high wall bonfire and the password being dsg
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Thought I'd be fucked here but some sick jumps saved the day.
>enter fog gate
>computer crashes
SO THIS IS THE POWER OF MICROSOFT
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>>170789262
>leveling str beyond 7
>not tuning your mind to sorcery with the dusk crown

how truly unmajestic
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>>170789485
But throwing moonbeam is so much fun
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>>170789382
>I can't do my Abyss Watcher run otherwise.
What happened to your AW soul?
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>>170789417
auto save to the rescue
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>>170789485
>>170789572
>tfw can't use any of the mage weapons without leveling str or dex or fucking faith
TRC can't deliver my aquamarine dagger fast enough.
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>>170789623
He doesn't have it yet, I scummed him the set so that he could start out with it.

>>170789658
Protip: you don't want to go that way. Look around for another path.
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>>170789623
I'm right at the beginning of the game, someone was nice enough to give me the set but he didnt have the Farron Greatsword
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>>170789687
this man gets it
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>>170789734
I just got a sliver of health. left. I'll check out another path and see what's around
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>>170789485
>limiting yourself to mere sorceries
>not also embracing the power of the sun and the inner strength of flame all at the same time
Conniptions
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>>170789820
magic pixel best pixel
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>>170789262
>that pose on the bottom right
How?
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>>170789867
i was pissed for like five second until i realized i had survived. I don't see anything other then the chest over there that I can't reach. I probably missed a ring or something.
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>>170789946
It just the gesture point forward
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>>170789946
He's clearly just pointing forward while standing on a rock, anon.
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>>170789848
>being an uncivilized pyromancer
>being a foolish faith user
>unironically being a filthy hexer

contain your shit opinions senpai
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>>170790040
>he
Did you just assume her gender?
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Is this an NPC because they're a laggy asshole.
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>>170790112
You might be meming, but it IS a girl, look at the headpiece
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Post shenanigans.
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>>170790219
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So he just shoots a straight flame that takes 90% of your health in two hits then knocks you into lava
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>>170790772
git gud
The corner is a safe spot, abuse it all you want
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Is the dank sword still the best?

I like straight swords and really wanted to use the lothric knight sword when Dark Souls 3 came out but there was no reason not to use the fucking Dark Sword.

Haven't played since I finished the game around release last year, what's the best straight sword now? I sure hope it's lothric knight
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>>170791003
It was nerfed into oblivion, and here's a good reason not to use dark sword even when it was meta: it's fucking ugly
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>>170791074

also the weapon art is shit

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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>>170791074
>nerfed into oblivion
Nine. It was lying by omission. Nine.
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>>170791074
It had fucklong reach and looked decent as long as you didn't look at the root shit at the hilt

>>170791121
So is there reason to use anything else now? Quality build
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>>170791151
use gargoyle flame spear and be a dick
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what kind of fucking spawn point is this
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>Dark Souls 2
>want to use a str greatsword build
>no ultra greatswords because of the retarded visual effects and sound effects and designs like nearly all of dark souls 2
>best str greatsword seems to be mastodon greatsword
>slow as fuck and does meh damage with fuckall stagger
>ultra GSs only slightly slower with much more damage and stagger

So are greatswords just shit, like the rest of Dark Souls 2?
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Why do NPCs seemingly randomly decided they're going to move up and attack sometimes and other times just sit there?
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>>170791003
Darksword was a meme. Slightly more AR and reach is not worth losing the r1r1r2 and SS stance.
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>>170791360
it's usually the sure sign of a shitter because it's only superior for r1 spamming through pve
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>>170791003
Lothric does slightly more damage, still insanely long and superior moveset and visuals
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>>170791768
It's only the sign of a shitter because a real PvE R1 spammer would know Raw Astora is good enough to tank the entire game by itself
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>>170791826
i was watching someone using it vs some of the later bosses, it kinda starts to wear out at lothric castle or so
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Farron Greatsword is fun
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>>170791826
raw ass is only superior if you're not going to level str or dex (or both)

at some point you'll need to put stats into something other than more end and vig
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>>170791889
sadly everything fun is also shit
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>>170779520
>my image used in the OP
kek i was just browsing too
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I love it when a boss you've fought 15 times pulls out a new move out his asshole
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Finally beat DS3 and I have to say it gets a resounding "meh". Just seemed like it was trying so hard to emulate DS1 but in an incredibly lazy manner.
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>>170791973
i almost dont want trc to come out because then i can hold onto my hope that from will fix game balance eventually forever
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>>170791973
I tried invading with it, it's not very efficient against other player.
In pve it's quite useful
It should have been a greatsword, or at least a Ultra greatsword with an higher AR
Also the weapon art is shit
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>>170792087
I swear Dancer has a new combo every time I walk into the room
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>>170792090
Gee Anon, the way you articulated that I'd almost feel like I've heard that exact same post a million times already...
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>>170792208
>In pve it's quite useful

compared to a ss? no
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Are ultra big weapons as viable in Sotfs as in DaS1?
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>>170792208
FGS has no weaponart. If you mean the parry, then yeah.

One thing you need to factor in is that the L1 does a lot of damage if the user gets the L1L1 combo going, since the blade is hitting each time. If the damage is too high L1L1 just turns fucking mental, even R1>L1 would be miserable to fight against.
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>>170792314
you can powerstance them unlike in 1 and 3 for maximum damage

so yes
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>>170792090
That's because it *was* trying to emulate DaS.
Also the way you typed DS1 shows that you have no true appreciation for DaS, and thus your opinion is invalid.
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>>170791275
Regular Greatsword (the UGS) is one of the best weapons in the game
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>>170791916
>at some point you'll need to put stats into something other than more end and vig

that's where you're wrong kiddo

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/151880

this actually seems like it would be fun to wander around pontiff's playground with, fight some bloodshades.
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>>170792390
I tried it but it looks dumb as fuck, which is why I don't want to use it.
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>>170792308
SS is always better than anything, it doesnt mean I'm not going to use other weapon, it's kind of boring to keep using a straight sword every run, sure it's not as efficient but it's a nice change of pace from "R1r1r1r1r1"
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>>170792379
Sounds great. One more thing, would it be more viable to go paladin str/fth or quality with pyro? I hear pyro scales with int in Das2?
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>>170792495
>quality with pyro?

>going 40/40/40/40

that's not a build anymore anon

that's a pile
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>>170792471
>FGS
>L1L1...[pause]...L1L1
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>>170792495

Realistically, you'll be evolving from a one-stat build to two-stat to three-stat, so just plan out your three.

I liked strength-dark and dex-dark on finished characters.

>>170792596
>Implying builds in DaS2

With SM there's just no reason to stop leveling, so don't.
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>>170792265
Sorry, I just feel so underwhelmed that I felt the need to share it.
>>170792380
Well, okay then, I guess 500+ hours don't mean shit.
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>>170792471
>change of pace
>FGS

you could make that argument with an actual versatile weapon moveset.

ironically the straight sword has a more varied moveset with it's mixture of thrusts, slashes and weapon art.
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>>170792596
You can also go 25/25/25/25.
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>>170792631
But is so flashy
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>>170792671
>With SM there's just no reason to stop leveling, so don't.

might aswell just go mundane hexer at that point though
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can someone give me the skinny on the newest dlc lore deetz?
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>>170792772
so a mundane build
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>>170792861
>yunglean
No.
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>>170792809
If you want to. You can do whatever you want in DaS2 since you're not supposed to stop leveling. My personal favorite is a quality build and use the Red Iron Twinblade. That thing shreds through everything.
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>>170792861
we're going back to drangleic
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>>170792809

Mundane kinda sucks, it's easier to just raise stats normally and ignore stuff you don't like.
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I put to many into str. What do. I wanted to get a spell or two on this character.
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>>170792596
Yeah, I don't know how pyro works with DaS2. It scales with both int and fth then?
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>>170792495
STR is STR it scales with leveling your STR
Pyro scales with int + faith and 60 combined is the soft cap
Faith is faith and scales with leveling your faith

What I'm getting at is that pyro is something you add to faith/int build, there is little reason to dedicate yourself as a pyro since you would naturally have the ability to cast some sorceries and miracles as well, so your best bet is probably to go STR + faith and then grabbing whatever pyromancy suits your fancy to top it off.

Also worth nothing that the best UGSs are:
2-handing Ivory Kings UGS which is a really really lategame unlock
Powerstanced normal greatsword which means at least 15 DEX and 42 STR
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>>170793105
If das2 or 3 you can respec
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What's the best weapon to whip out for criticals on dark souls 2? Preferably something along the lines of a dagger or rapier. Or are crit modifiers not that important and I should just use my main weapon with the highest AR?
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>>170793107

It adds up both for the scaling. It's kind of the inverse of dark, which works off whatever stat of your int or faith is lower, and you can tack pyromancy onto pure caster builds as well.
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>>170793161
how many times? This is kinda retarded desu. It probably wouldn't even be worth
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>>170793184
dagger, generally

if you're using ultra weapons, just use those
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>>170793225
>It probably wouldn't even be worth

if you want to respec do it

if not shut the fuck up
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>>170793225
>poise

it still hurts
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>>170793184
>best weapon for crits
Chicken Leg but thats really not a viable pocket weapon, generally speaking the more damage a weapon does per swing the better it is at crits, the most common being something like a lightning Lost Sinners

>>170793225
Like 10 times normally and infinite amounts by burning Aesthetics, the item is called a Soul Vessel and you probably already picked one up along the way.
DON'T USE IT, go talk to witches in the very start of the game, one of them will offer you a respec if you have a soul vessel
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>>170793225
DaS2 - However many soul vessels you can find
DaS3 - 5 per game cycle

Also you're only sl97. what are you so worried about? Literally who cares because you're not supposed to stop leveling anyways. From what I'm seeing you haven't done anything wrong either. You're stressing out too much over nothing man.
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>>170793225
In das 2 you can find item called Soul vessel, bring them to the old women in things betwixt to respec
There is a limited number of them in the game, they can be found in certain chest . You can use a bonfire ascetics to make them respawn if you want to try different build
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>>170793409
which one is the chicken leg?
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>>170793348
how many hecking times. I'm only two str over what I wanted. I've never actually tried using spells in this game.

>>170793432
>>170793415
>>170793409
oh i have one of those yea. thanks anons.
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>>170793441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClTSDMSAEqQ
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>>170793441
Smelter Great Hammer, AKA KFC
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Could someone show me the ways of the Cleric in DaS1? I'm completely clueless on what weapons support a miracle build, neither do I know what miracles are good or how much faith I should push for. Much appreciated.
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>>170793441
Smelter Hammer. 70 STR to use and 35 weight, farmed from giant headless golems in the Brume Tower, again it's not really a pocket weapon
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>>170793481
As many times as you have soul vessels
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>>170793407
Ds1/2 poise is a poorly implemented idea.
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>>170793409
>>170793310
Thanks, I'm a faith build so I'm deciding on what to convert to lightning. I have plenty of materials so I can afford to +10 a few things and see what gets the best results. Hopefully there's nothing silly that I'm missing, like crit modifiers only multiplying physical damage or something
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>>170793528
solo/duels/invasions/high sl coop/low sl coop?
if you're just going through the game, join sunbros, make your preferred non-unique weapon divine and go to the catacombs
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>Recently found out if you don't tell the shrine maiden in DaS3 where you found the Dreamcatcher's Ashes she won't sell you Green Blossoms.
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>>170793441

The true man's weapon of DS2.
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>>170793528
Get at least 2 copies of wrath of the gods and sunlight / darkmoon blade. Dex is a good stat to invest in as it improves your casting speed but don't feel bottlenecked - you'd be fine with strength if that's what you want.

The faith softcap is 40.
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>>170793673
>The faith softcap is 40.
for weapons. int/fai for spells softcaps at 50 iirc
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>Knight
>Elite Knight
>Nameless Knight
>Lothric Knight
>Black Knight
>Silver Knight
>Fallen Knight
>Drakeblood Knight
>Ringed Knight
>Cathedral Knight
>Pontiff Knight
>Outrider Knight
>Winged Knight
>Millwood Knight
>Wolf Knight
>Slave Knight
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>>170793740
>knight knight
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>>170793512
>>170793521
>>170793532
>>170793667
neat

now i'm hungry for fried chicken
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>>170793647
Why do those ashes hold so much significance?
>unique handmaid dialogue
>Sirris shows up to swear loyalty to you

Also on a similar note, does not giving Greirat his waifu's bone affect anything other than getting the gesture? I traded it because I'm in NG+
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>>170793597
I can't name the faith infusion breakpoints off the top of my head (mostly since it depends on what weapon you want to infuse) but generally speaking if you already have high STR/DEX then infusions are not actually that much better.

Go to MacTough, equip the weapon you want to infuse, enter the menu where you choose which infusion and press Y until the right screen changes to display your right hand first, second and third slot weapons damage. Since infused weapons go through 2 resistances then unless you are gaining 100 AR or more it's not actually worth it to infuse them.

Enhanced/Magical/Lightning/Fire/Dark infusions basically mostly exist for builds that entirely ignore STR/DEX, or weapons thatalready have innate elemental damage
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>>170793645
Mainly for running though the game and some high end jolly co-operation sounds fun to me. Alright, sunbros and divine weapon it is.
>>170793673
>Get at least 2 copies of wrath of the gods and sunlight / darkmoon blade
I'll keep that in mind.

Thanks for the help, lads.
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>>170793740
>In a world with medieval themes and various factions / parties, it is surprising that there are different knight groups
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>>170793843
He might not go pillaging now but I'm not sure off the top of my head
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>>170793647
>If you give her two sets of "warm" ashes in the same NG she tells you that she doesn't give a shit about anything but the souls

Shit bitch I only killed yuria, Greirat died on his own
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>>170793843
I'm unsure myself about the ashes but I haven't looked too much into it. All I initially wanted to do was see the other dialogue she would say if I lied to her about where I found them. I didn't know I'd lose out on buying green blossoms that playthrough.

And if you never give him the bone, you don't get his questline meaning yes, I'd like to think you never get the curl up gesture nor the other unique items exclusively sold by him.
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>>170793225
Once you get attunement up enough to have enough slots for your miracles, check your Agility, if its below 99 then dump some points into ADP. Right now you are running at 9 iframes, the usual stopping point for most builds is 99/100/105 giving you 12 or 13 iframes.
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>>170793740
You forgot Onion Knight
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>>170793969
Thought that might be the case. I bought everything I wanted from him in the last cycle anyway, so that's no big deal.
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>>170793528
There are two kinds of faith builds, 30 faith and 50 faith. There's no reason to level faith to anything else. With 30 faith, you bring either strength or dex to 40. If you keep attunement at 16, that leaves you enough for 40 endurance and between 40 and 50 vitality at SL125. You use pure physical weapons, not occult or divine, and enchant them with sunlight blade and darkmoon blade. You can use any weapon with a single scaling stat with just as much efficiency as a pure physical build. Things like the mace, large club and pickaxe for strength, and the falchion, uchigatana, balder side sword, and silver knight sword for dex. You can also get enough of both strength of dex for the crescent axe, which is a nice faith weapon. Sadly quality weapons are out for this build unless you don't mind doing inferior damage while unbuffed. 30 faith gives you access to all the best miracles - sunlight blade, darkmoon blade, wrath of the gods, great lightning spear, great magic barrier, great heal.

If you want 50 faith, you obviously want quite low strength and dex and use divine and occult weapons, which contrary to popular belief do decent damage at 50 faith. I like to have 20 strength and 16 dex in order to use the obsidian greatsword, which is your only candidate for buffing with sunlight blade or darkmoon blade. It has no scaling, making it perfect for this build. At 50 faith, your buffs will add outrageous amounts of damage, so I think it's a waste not to use the obsidian greatsword. You also get sunlight spear, which requires 50 faith, and is I believe the most powerful single hit spell in the game. It does massive damage, extreme poise damage, sends enemies flying, and is generally very cool. It also requires two attunement slots. You also get to use the sunlight healing miracles on this build, which will heal your teammates if they stand close, but they're generally not great and more trouble than they're worth. Very pretty though.
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>>170793907
You're welcome mate. Lightning spear is turbo OP for the PvE I'd that's what you're going for
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>>170788023
>>170726068
How does an invader "gank you" if he's alone?
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We're never getting the real armour, are we
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>>170794361
He could sneak up on him, if he's not paying attention maybe?
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>>170793740
K***ht
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>>170794515
yno
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>>170794515
What would you even call it? Dragonslayer Armour Armour?
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>>170794109
This post gave me a very good idea about the two types of build, and I'll be going for the 50 faith one. It sounds more appropriate for the whole Cleric theme. Just need to figure out which weapons I'll be packing for me to infuse with Divine and Occult. Thanks a lot!
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>>170793813
NIGGEEERR
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>>170794361
NPC enemies, I guess. But you as a darkmoon still outnumber him with the host and likely phantom, so you could easily shred the enemies.
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>>170794631
In my experience, the Gargoyle Halberd is great with Divine. You get like 500 AR with it.
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>>170794515
They would have to model all that wispy shit and they haven't bothered with Ornstein for 3 games
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>>170794631
>>170794678
Here, try something like this: http://mmdks.com/8k9g
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>>170793843
The way they both talk about them makes it sound like bothering to collect the ash is some small act of compassion? How exactly it's never clear, but if you accept that it does fit with what we see of Sirris' character.
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>>170794606
Dragonslayer Battlesuit
Gwynsen's Armor
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>>170794678
>>170794796
I'm almost at Gargoyles, here's to praying that they drop the halberd for me. Thanks for the mugenmonkey, that's very helpful.
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>>170794606
They could just remove Ornstein's set because it serves next to no fucking purpose being in the game and call it Dragonslayer Armour
Honestly, I just want the helm. I hate Ornsteins helmet but very little goes with the rest of the set.
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>>170794926
>Honestly, I just want the helm
>inb4 we get just the helm
>no plume because it's the pilgrim butterfly's tail-nerve-thingy
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>>170795020
delet
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>pyromancer is the best build if you want to do a sorcerer, pyromancer and dex/int or int/quality
why the fuck sorcerer class with his horribly high luck even exists when you can trade 1-2 levels and be a pyro with actually good stat spread
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>>170795335
Pyro, Merc, Warrior, and Knight are the only thought out classes
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>>170794906
Might be too late but don't forget you can farm the halberd by killing one of them then reloading if it didn't drop
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>>170795335
luck shouldn't contribute to starting level desu, like resistance didn't in 1
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The host took the sewers route and I followed him, but the door to the boss was closed, he then tried going to the elevator area that was closed by the fog gate, I went back to this area to clear it for him so we could get to the boss and he sends me home, great.
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>>170795661
Look at it this way even if he hadn't sent you home a person like that probably would've just died doing something stupid in the boss fight.
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>>170793740
Strange how this still isn't enough.

Also
>Has Fair Maiden + Asiatic Concubines Tier
Lothric Knights.
>High Tier
Black Knights.
Outrider Knights.
Cathedral Knights.
Drakeblood Knights.
>Mid Tier
Astora Knights.
Silver Knights.
Winged Knights.
Millwood Knights.
Slave Knights.
>Low Tier
Pontiff Knights.
>Traitors and Knaves Tier
Fallen Knights.
That one slave knight everyone is gay for because he has a beard and forget he is an oathbreaking waifu-killer.
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>sword master does a jumping attack up a flight of stairs and kills me
If there was ever a time when I was outplayed by an NPC it is now
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>>170783952
>have a list that says, "Versatility"
>Longsword ranked "C"
I don't know if you know what Versatility means.
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dark souls 2 sucks and i'm going to bed
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>>170796013
Forgot the Knight's of Catarina
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>>170794606
Change what is now Dragonslayer Set to Ornstien's Set so the cool one can be Dragonslayer Set
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>>170796120
>single example
>I don't know if you know what Versatility means.
It's an outdated model anyways, I'm working on a new version that uses a model with better control range over how I rank things. I don't really consider Longsword too much because for while it is versatile it brings little to the table at what it can be adapted to versus other weapons that fill the same niche.
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>friede's great scythe noise
>can still hear it in my ears after playing a few hours with headphones on
YAMEROOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>170796183
>Forgot the Knight's of Catarina
Oh yeah. I guess they'd be high tier. Neat armor and seem to like the zweihander.
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>>170796374
They use the Zweihander cause it's a German sword, all their names are German lol
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>>170796438
>morgenstern
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Does any other shield besides the Pierce Shield look good with Catarina's set?
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>>170796370
that's tinnitus
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From should put this in so I can wear Catarina's and use a SS/CS? and still continue the theme
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>>170796708
just use the falchion LOL
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>>170796708
A fucking straight short sword. Do people even use them?
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>>170796738
Meh, I guess that could work
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>>170793917
>>In a world with medieval themes and no mounts, it is surprising that there are different knight groups
only "riders" that come to mind is the executioner on the chariot and nameless king. maybe prince lothric if you really want to stretch it
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>beat Champ on NG+
>make it to Flameless Firelink and begin looting the place, but can't find Hornet Ring
>talk to Handmaid and buy stuff, but she isn't selling Artorias's set
>apparently both only appear once you've beaten Abyss Watchers

I was not aware of this. And furthermore, I am confused as to why this should be. If anyone on basic NG is balls enough to do the Dancer skip and beat Champ before facing Abyss Watchers, they already know what they're doing and know about the plot twist. And if anyone does the Dancer skip on NG+ and beyond, they also already know about the plot twist.
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>>170785271
Velka's Rapier seems okay only when you don't look at your alternatives.
It's outperformed by a 50 INT base dex Enchanted Rapier, which does some of the highest backstab damage in the game for less stat investment.
It's massively outperformed by a CMW rapier on the same dex/int build, which does some of the highest DPS in the game.

Abyss Greatsword is wonky to build for, but it's very long, has absurd AR, backstabs harder than a quality Rapier.

GLGS is the strongest greatsword with the fast swings. It can occasionally for some reason infinitely stunlock with 1hr1s, but that's unreliable.
It can't reliably infinitely stunlock like bastard sword, but in skilled pvp stunlock is a joke.

>>170785851
Warpick and pickaxe were nerfed to have straight sword level poise damage.
This + miss stagger + ability to be strafe backstabbed + hammer stunlock nerf + shift of PvP from actually attacking to backstab meta pretty much killed them.

Ricard's is just a mildly worse Rapier.

Silver tracer can only backstab. Abyss Greatsword, Rapier, Great Club, all can backstab better.
Daggers are a joke in DaS1, doing single digit damage on attacks and were outmatched at the one thing they were good at. Even with 160 crit mod.
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Let's play a game, DSG.

Which title am I talking about, Demon's Souls or Dark Souls 2?
Hint: None of these things are in Dark Souls 1.

>Bonfire / Archstone warping
>most re-used or copied movesets, weapons mostly vary by their stats, not moves
>upgrades are through +10, doubling weapon attack and adding a slight amount of scaling
>unique weapons are through +5, adding 50% attack
>scaling sucks unless you put >50 investment into a single stat
>worst boss fights of the series, with a lot of cool ideas but ultimately boring / easy / unnecessarily difficult and poorly designed fights
>starting area has pretty graphics, but most other areas have low-res textures
>upgrade materials are hard to buy / farm but are given plentifully (though in limited amounts) through drops and lizards
>Hub world with 5 paths
>ideal way to progress through the game is to go between different branches and snag the best equipment from each one
>Progression to semi-final boss requires clearing previous "end path" bosses
>drastically different aesthetics between each progression branch/level.
>Elemental defense is % based out of 900 total points (900 = immune) so all elemental AR is a fair representation of damage
>lots of healing items of varying size and power, player is expected to farm / buy healing equipment to make the game easier, also dropped by enemies
>multiple boss soul merchants, including spells and melee weapons from the same soul
>karma penalties for killing NPCs, which can boost / decrease the damage of certain special weapons
>health depleted by dying, a ring can be equipped to limit the health loss
>a way to semi-permanently affect game difficulty, with higher rewards for more difficulty
>more knight/dragon/king/magic aesthetic than monster/chaos/zombie aesthetic
>assassination quest
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>>170797890
DaS2
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>>170797890
>unnecessarily difficult
>scaling sucks
Das2
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welcome to /dsg/ , how hyped are ya ?
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>>170795661
If the dude didn't have the Young White Branch, then he probably would have gotten obliterated by the greatbow giant on the way to the Greatwood anyways.
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>>170791819
>more damage

Wait, more than the dark sword?
Because according to calcs even basic fucking longsword outdamages it and costs less stamina
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>>170797959
>>170797962
>it's actually both games, but DeS is the more difficult of the two and the better infusions make scaling even less effective in DeS than DS2
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>>170797890

>most re-used or copied movesets, weapons mostly vary by their stats, not moves
Demon's Souls. It didn't have ANY movesets whatsoever, and had the worst weapon variety within classes. You had no reason to ever use a bastard sword instead of claymore, or a longsword instead of a knight sword, etc.
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>>170798314
can't wait for AC6
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>>170791819
Lothric SS does not do more damage than Dark Sword, or Longsword for that matter.
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>>170798493
>DeS
>more difficult

Fucking bullshit
I even played DeS first and followed with Dark Souls when it got release and the thing about DaS2 that stuck was how unneccsesarily difficult it was, the devs fell for the marketing meme
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On what build do i use the pontiff curved sword?
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>>170798764
Anything with 40 Dex.
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>>170798696
Amen. The game falls harder for that meme than Bloodborne or Das3
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>>170795964
I guess you're right.
>>170798359
I don't get why people do, yeah it's surprising the first time, but the arrows don't do much damage, and you can lure the enemies to a safe area to kill them.
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>>170798493
>but DeS is the more difficult of the two
What the fuck. You have to trip over yourself to find any difficulty in the game. You have to restrict yourself from using 90% of the shit.
Can't use
>any magic
>Second Chance
>regeneration
>non-scaling weapons
>turpentine
>bows
>Thief Ring
>Rat rings / Morion
>an abundance of grass
>any good grass at all really
>DBS / any greataxe
>crescent falchion
etc
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>>170797890
DeS
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>>170798851
Bloodborne was hard, but it felt like a 'natural' kind of difficulty, I didn't feel that it was unneccessary, except for Shadows of fucking Yharnam fuck that fight

Also maybe chalices, I didn't bother with them but they looked like bullshit
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>>170798527
Demon Souls basically worked like this:

each weapon class had 2-3 weapons, each getting SLIGHTLY more powerful and more range and being found later in game.

Short Sword > Long Sword > Knight Sword
Bastard Sword > Claymore
Greatsword

Then they had a few special weapons in each class that could do special effects or have a unique scaling

Broken Sword (used for boss weapons)
Broadsword (can accept any infusion)
Flamberge (bleeding, dex scaling)

And then the rest was just unique or boss weapons like the DBS.


Dark Souls 2 is actually really similar, but only if you replace "slightly stronger" with "slightly different counter damage / element / scaling", and instead of looking at the whole class, look at specific movesets and how most of the unique weapons are actually variations of the same 3-4 stock movesets

Old Knight > Drangleic > Black Knight (Key)
Bastard > Mastodon (Majestic)
Royal > Flamberge
Claymore > Mirrah > Old Mirrah (Drakeblood)

in Demon's Souls, they would just treat that as 4 different weapon classes. Think of it that way and the two games are pretty much identical when it comes to movesets, Dark souls 2 just has 4x as many "classes".
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>>170798696
>>170798851
I played DS1 and DS2 then DeS and DeS was by far the hardest, but that's because I went in without a wiki and just played to instinct. DS2 was the easiest, to me, but probably would have been harder than DS1 if I had gone in without DS1 experience.

The bosses were easy but the constant grind to survive the areas and having basically only 1 chance to upgrade a weapon was way more brutal than any of the other games.

I also think DeS is the most broken, so it could be really easy if you abuse all the tactics (like >>170798871 ) but if you don't know about those tactics on your first playthrough, how the fuck are they supposed to make the game easy?

It's kind of like people saying DS2 is easy because you can buy infinite lifegems.

So maybe it's kind of like this:

Most difficult > Least Difficult

Blind, First souls game
>DS2 > DeS > DS1

Blind, but with prior game experience:
>DeS > DS1 > DS2

w/ Wiki:
>DS1 > DS2 > DeS
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>>170798565
neither longsword or darksword have 110 critical
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>>170799182
Didn't say that, said it did, "slightly more damage"
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>>170798950
>And then the rest was just unique or boss weapons like the DBS.
DBS was the exact same as the Great Sword, it was just heavier and had more AR. Same goes for any weapon in any class.

Nitpicking, but Claymore had a "unique" moveset in DaS2, it was the only greatsword to have thrust 1hr2s and 2hr2s while having the horizontal sweep 2hr1s.
I can't think of it as the same because of things like this, and the total lack of any special moves on the LSOM, what the fuck From
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>the end of the ringed city
>fight against Man the Furtive Pygmy
>boss theme is entirely done with a piano like Gwyns theme
>just like how Gwyns theme only uses white piano notes, the Furtive Pygmys will only use black piano notes

Make it happen From
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>>170797569
I like how Gundyr looks like he's begging for mercy
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>>170799287
Claymore and Mirrah were identical. Claymore's 1H or 2H movesets were subsequently cannibalized for the various unique weapons, always showing up in one but not the other.

Same for Bastard and Mastodon.

The "prime" movesets are Drangleic, Bastard, and Claymore. Every other GS moveset except for a few DLC/unique exceptions are just piecewise versions of those 3 movesets.

There's also weird exceptions like Drakeblood, which has Bastard's 2H but Claymore's 1H, but claymore's 2nd 2HR2.
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>Yesterday
>Invade in Eleum Loyce
>Fun time invasions
>Dropping "Hello" before engaging
>Following hosts around in a box
>Fight some
>Accompany some and watch them die by minions
>Duel a bit on the Outer Wall bonfire
>Today
>Invaded 3 different guys
>Everyone seeded and kept running through the map aggroing everything not even fighting
>After 8min of chase I BC'd out

I just wanna have fun times. I wonder if he had fun running away from me.
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>>170799631
Anon, I just told you why claymore and mirrah were not identical
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I've come to the conclusion that magic works best as a aid to melee combat with spells high powered but limited in number of casts.

Case in point, using a magic upgrade halberd and normal longsword buffed with magic weapon in DS1. I've got soul spear/homing soulmass for use as well but I'm using a mix of the 2.

Which is why I'm confused From didn't allow the DS2 style of buffing an elemental infused weapon with the same element. Lightning infusion plus lightning blade or dark infusion plus dark blade would be great. They could even use a special slightly lower modifier when buffing an elemental infused weapon with the same element for balance purposes.
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>>170799895
>Which is why I'm confused From didn't allow the DS2 style of buffing an elemental infused weapon with the same element.

Because DS2 was made by armored core people who actually know how to make balanced stat systems

DS1 was made by nutjobs who copied Japan Studio's choices for how RPG mechanics worked in Demon's Soul's
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>>170799895
>Because DS2 was made by armored core people who actually know how to make balanced stat systems
>armored core people who actually know how to make balanced stat systems
>armored core people
>who actually know how to
>make balanced stat systems
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>>170798314
I give 5 euros and whatever small change I got lying around in my room to miya if he releases trc now
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>>170799365
>just like how Gwyns theme only uses white piano notes
is this true? pretty gud
>>
I'm pretty hyped for TRC, only problem is that ME: Andromeda comes out a week before, going to have to juggle that lol
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>>170800183
>hey look I can quote people without evidence too

People don't make tier lists in AC because literally every weapon is usable in competitive PvP. There's more weapons in those games and more of them are usable.

Tanimura is the guy behind the stats balance in AC and he did DS2, and was brought back for DS3 too for the multiplayer balancing. The only souls games that he didn't touch (DS1 and DeS) are fucking laughably broken balance-wise and have >50% of their weapons completely useless if you want to optimize.

So yeah, the Armored Core team knows how to balance stats pretty well. The percentage of competitive weapons relative to the total weapons is highest in the games Tanimura worked on, and lowest in the games he didn't.

Miyazaki's idea of "balance" is the shitty "choose your own difficulty" of DS1 and AC4/FA where he gives you end game equipment right away and makes 90% of the weapons you get afterward objectively worse, so that you have to willingly gimp yourself to use anything else.

wait, shit I was just supposed to make a meme, not actually respond to you. I'm bad at 4chan
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>>170800296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJQUEtSRLEE
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lmao
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>trying to kill Friede on my MLGS character
>she has like a million magic defense and I only do like 200 damage a hit
Fuck.
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>>170800927
more lmao
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>>170800584
I notice that you don't say anything about ACV, the entire point of the post.

I don't know about AC4, but how does 4A give you endgame equipment off the bat?
Only thing that comes to mind is the lock-on speed of the independent mech's cpu and everything else it gets is ass.
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>>170801048
>people that keep attacking after their host is dead
I never understood that.
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>>170790161
>NPC
>Laggy
You're an idiot
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>>170801048
>heavy investment in END
>attack three times with moderately heavy weapon
>stamina completely gone and opponent free to heal

Dark Souls 3
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>>170796013
also forgot Knights of Carim
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>boss input reading

Literally the worst thing about this game
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>put on faithful covenant
>go afk for 20 minutes
>4 new dregs
>tfw no proofs
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Finally got the staff to gas 'em all and the german greatsword. Now what else should I get for the neo-nazi white trash?
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>>170801965
A fedora and the reversal ring?
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>>170801965
>>
>bows scale with dex(agility) instead of int
>bows don't have a strength requirement
dark souls is really unrealistic.
In the real medieval times, bowmen had to have high upper body strength
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>>170802190
What do they even have to do with neo nazis? It's not like he's a "nice guy"
>>170802198
Heh, I didn't notice you could do that.
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>>170802327
neonazis love traps
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>>170802267
Everyone already knows that.

Even if people didn't know it before coming here someone makes that post at least once a week.

Downvote.
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>>170802426
shut up bluepill
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>>170802456
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from the /v/ drawthreads, mecha versions of Ornstein and Smough
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>>170802530
>>170802456
>>170802426
oh wait I'm totally wrong.
They do have high str requirements
sorry.
But it should be INT instead of DEX because you need a brain to snipe people with a bow. Not just fast fingers
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>>170797006

Grosse Messer is pretty much a typical Norwich Falchion, which is close to what you see in DS3.
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>>170802536
they're not even hard, soltaire drew their aggro and I finished ornstein with the dragonslayer bow and then smough with my sword
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>>170798929
>Shadows of fucking Yharnam

NG+ Ludwig and Kos are my annoyances, plus those anchor wielding giant fish men.

Friede and Nameless were harder for me than those above, though.
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So how active are invasions in DS1? I want to BE invaded.

Also how active are the blades of the darkmoon covenant?
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>washing pole
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>>170803070
What the fuck? That can't be legit. That's some dark souls 2 counter damage shit.

Also I thought you couldn't combo with the washing pole 2hr1?
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Does the poison buildup of the storyteller's staff's weapon art scale with anything? seems pretty hard to make someone get poisoned.
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>>170803584
it doesn't scale at all, but it is one of the strongest poisons you can apply to people
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>>170803337
The Washingpole has two hitboxes due to being a sweetspot weapon. Every sweetspot weapon in the game has a bug where they'll occasionally deal double-damage because the game registers both overlapping hitboxes as two separate hits.

WP doesn't true-combo, but will often combo anyways because latency. In that webm, the 1st hit registers late and there's a skip-forward as the game rec-syncs, causing the second to register proportionally faster.
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>>170803584
>Does the poison buildup of the storyteller's staff's weapon art scale with anything?

If it was anything it'd be luck, but that particular poison might not be affected. I know toxic isn't affected by luck, which I think is lame. Ain't even any damn toxic weapons in DS3, which is a first for a Souls game.
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>>170803753
DS1 didn't have any before the DLC, I don't think.
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>>170803861
DS1 had the gravelord sword, which was great for how early you could get it.

I'm hoping that the Harald greatsword is also a toxic CGS but I won't be surprised if it isn't.
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>>170803584
No but you can build up most of the bar through normal poison means. You get the boosted damage of the storyteller's poison just so long as the cloud is the thing that actually finishes filling the bar. A few R1s of a resined ghru spear can set you up for the WA
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>>170802978
>trip
>commenting about difficulty when summoning
am i being trollered?
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>invading as watchdog of farron
>some guy fighting a giant crab
>runs away to the black knight area when I spawn
>chase
>they're using brigand twindaggers
>wtf
>start fighting
>can't land a hit
>they just keep landing a tiny hit on me and immediately backing off
>happens until I die

Well that was incredibly infuriating...
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this is the 10th "All combatants present, moving to arena." that ends with me getting teleported to the arena with no opposing player
did From downgrade their servers or something?
because I've also been experiencing great difficulty with summoning and getting summoned
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>>170803635
>>170803753
Oooh, I see. So there's no point in upgrading it since idk what spells could fit the neo nazi white trash.

>>170804051
That's pretty good to know, thanks for the help.
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>>170804409
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>>170804521
I already did that.
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>>170804409
Use sorceries. The leader of the Klan is the "Grand Wizard", after all.
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>>170804409
>So there's no point in upgrading it since idk what spells could fit the neo nazi white trash.

Pretty much. I guess pestilent mercury would be fitting but that's a lot of INT for white trash.
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>>170804646
I was thinking of getting pestilent mercury, how good is it? Never tried it.
>>170804695
Yeah, I also considered that. 30int seems like quite a lot.
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>>170804521
Do you need a safe space, Cletus?
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>>170804749
You have to go back.
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>>170804742
>how good is it?
It's fucking godlike in PVP, it eats through healthbars in a matter of seconds. Slow to cast, but incredibly effective. It affects you as well though, so you have to be careful.
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>>170804742
>>170804695
>not casting from faith
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>>170804783
You triggered or something?
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>>170804742
Pestilent Mercury is shit outside of select cheesing scenarios. The damage is great but the range is shit and nothing will stay in your cloud. It's technically faster to kill most things by spamming soul spears or GH soul arrows but a lot of enemy AIs won't react to mercury for cheesing purposes, and it can stack with the above against immobile targets for high DPS.

In pvp it might as well be a retard check since it'll devour half of somebody's healthbar before they know what's happening if they let themselves stand in it. Most people won't stand in it, but, y'know, there's always a few.
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>>170804871
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>>170804812
>>170804882
I see, sounds kinda fun. I guess I'll try it.
>>170804864
I need the gas tho.

And what kind of infusion would fit my german greatsword the best? I wanna infuse my Zwei but idk what a neo nazi would choose.
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In just two weeks the first /dsg/ thread tourney is starting. On March 25th, 2pm PST a PC tournament will be held prior the release of The Ringed City DLC.
Participants will be matched up with others who sign-up and fight for the claim to be /dsg/'s champion. The winner and runner-ups will receive prizes including Steam games and being better than everyone else who fought.

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Sign-ups close on 22nd of March, 2pm PST with brackets announced shortly after.

For the sake of organization either your Steam ID or a Discord ID will be needed to sign-up. If using only one, Steam IDs will be organized via that messages there and Discord users can join the accompanying server in the link above to ensure we don't have last minute drop-outs with no explanation.

RULES:
-Maximum Soul Level of 125 allowed. Someone with CE open will be monitoring all players to make sure this rule and others aren't broken.
-The starting location will be High Wall, followed by Farron Keep bridge and ending at the Darkmoon Tomb.
-Fights are best of 3
-Each fight is 2 minutes long, the one with the most % health left at the end will win if both are alive.
-Gargoyle Flame Spear, Washing Pole, Throwing Knives, Anri's Straight Sword, Ethereal Oak Shield, Ancient Dragon Greatshield, and Fire Surge are banned.
-Only two Ashen Estus sips per fight, any more and your win will not count, initiating a rematch. Do this twice and you are disqualified
-All Regen items and spells are banned to disencentize passive shittery. This includes Sun Princess Ring, Blessed Weapon, Spells like Bountiful Sunlight, the weapons/shields mentioned above with innate regen and anything infused with Blessed.
-Normal FC rules still apply such as no healing items. Fight rotation will be determined once brackets are set.

Discord link: https://discord.gg/5PBsgsV
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>>170805052
it's in the fucking OP

fuck off with your spam
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>>170803753
2 had no toxic weapons either.
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>>170805692
Mytha's dagger.
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>>170779520
>Leaked first boss fight (link ded again): https://sendvid.com/ppo6urmb
it's working for me. is anyone having problem with this?
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>>170805758
works fine here
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Came back to this game after a Month of For Honor. Expected to lose alot, but I still did fairly well. Also why do Bakas like these still exist. Who do they win against? Dude even casted 3 buffs pre-fight.

All in All it was fun not getting parried and thrown off a cliff after every light attack.
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Why does Vamos sound like he's talking through a walkie talkie?
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>>170806589
They probably wanted to add some effect to his voice but the quality of it ended up being terrible.
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>>170793740
Pussy K***ht
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If I wanted to make a support focused co-op build would I be better off with a 27 str faith build focused on healing with a good str scaling weapon or maybe even a two handed greatshield, or a 40/40 ""pyro"" with spells like rapport, warmth, aural decoy, a good healing miracle, and a couple of big hitters attuned?
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>invade post-Pontiff area
>get plenty of Dorkmoons popping in
>pop the Dorkmoon covenant on myself
>get no summons

What the fuck gives?
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>>170806589
*crackle*Begone or you'll spoil my focus, over.
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>>170807000
The matchmaking of the system for summoning people is kind of fucked up and there will always be more darkmoons than people with way of blue equipped and specifically getting invaded at any given time.
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Longsword is weaponfu.
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>>170806589
>>170806731

How many skeletons with tentacle faces have you heard talk before, mates?
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>>170801184
I have Collapse equipped for exactly those kinds of situations.
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>>170807139
I've always liked it but DS2 seriously spoiled me with how nice of a moveset it got so now the DS1/DS3 version seems lesser by comparison.
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>>170807139
and this is mine
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>have Untrue Dark equipped when I invade because fashion
>other idiot invaders target me
>run back into enemies, they still chase me
>don't lock on, don't attack them, just endlessly roll through their attacks
>they retardedly keep trying to kill me
>don't stop until I get far back enough to pull the ring off
>or I just lead them back to the actual host and let host whack them

Why are people so fucking retarded?
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>>170781910
What's the betting that the Dagger form just won't have any of the magic damage, and hitting the weapon art just transforms it into a SS with split magic/physical?
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>>170808495
Pretty sure it's dagger physical and lighsaber pure magic.
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>>170808495

Already confirmed that the dagger is regular physical in base and magic when transformed. Scales with dex/int
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>>170806365
Oh hey, I co-oped with him yesterday.


>infinitely better than Ornstein's Helm of Yiffing
>just enough shade difference to trigger the fuck out of me
I just want nice things. Why won't From let me have nice things?
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>>170807898
some people dont know to look for the ember effect
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>>170807413
That guy is figuratively me. I fall to pieces anytime somebody whips out a halberd
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>>170807898
reds are not very smart
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>>170809358
Aldrichs do it too when I'm red though.
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>>170809358
These days I chalk up post-Pontiff nonsense to people trolling because they don't need rewards anymore. I recently got summoned into the Aldrich area as a Dorkmoon and there were 2 Aldrichfags there helping the host fight the red.
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>>170809257
By that stage I've given them several signs that I'm not the fucking host.

>enemies aren't attacking me
>I'm not hostile to them
>I even point towards the direction of the actual host
And yet they still just blindly try to run me down.
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>>170809274
Get a crossbow or a greataxe and they won't be able to use halberds anymore. If you were serious about being like the guy in the webm then stop fucking panic rolling, halberds are way too slow to be hard to dodge.
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>>170809506
did their name contain the word bloodshade by chance?
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>>170809358
I've had reds invade and they basically act as my ally and murder everyone else then wait around for more people to show up.
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>>170809257
Why would they even need to look for the Ember effect if the game fucking tells you the name of the guy to look for and kill when you load into his world? I always check for the name first so that I know who my prey is.
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>>170809638
It's not just the one person, and no I've never met anyone with that in their name.
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>>170809924
>not tabbing out while waiting to invade
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>invading Untended Graves
>dude has White Branched right next to the bonfire
>using a White Branch in the darkness that is Untended Graves
>start attacking him
>dead in two hits

There are people who obviously are using a guide, and then there are people like this who are obviously not using a guide when they're kinda too stupid to not be using one...
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>>170806365
>For Honor

>tfw I have more fun with dark souls 3 invasions than For Honor after they fucked with the matchmaking.


?????
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>starting using friede's scythe
>well this is just OK
>finally try the special attack
>doesnt even take any MP
this shouldnt be allowed on a SL30
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>>170810029
>It's not just the one person

bloodshade is a player created covenant for ganking in anal rodeo
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>>170810643
Technically the Crusaders are for ganking and the Edgelords are to counter ganks.
But yeah, have lost count of how many times I have invaded Pontiff just to run in a Bloodshade gank squad.
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What are some chest pieces that go well with the slave knight leggings?
>inb4 Painting Guardian Gown
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>>170783952
This is the most confusing, cluttered and difficult-to-lookup tier list I have ever seen anyone design ever
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At what point am I likely to be out of range for Abyss Watchers co-op? I'm at SL33 right now and I'd like some more INT, but summons are already fairly sparse.
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>>170810892
Depends on what you are going for.
I like Slave knight leggings with Xanthous chest.
My valorheart outfit wears em with the eastern chest.
I've seen it work well with the femal version of the conjurator chest.
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>>170810892
dark armor
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>>170810892
>Slave knight leggings
Waifufag detected, off yourself fag.
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>>170809695
>>170809358
One time, as an aldrich invader, I invaded into a 5 man gank squad, and, for the sake of comedy, made friends with them and put on a white ring, so we had a 6 man gang. I would run up to other aldrich and whiff attacks intentionally they would freak out when they realized they couldn't damage me (Aldrich Faithful can't damage eachother) and run away and black crystal out, just before I took off the ring.
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>>170811181
Some people wear the slave knight leggings on male characters too.
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>>170809129
Favor Helm? But yeah. I really hate how little shading ruins alot of armor mixups.
Inb4SomeoneSuggetsDLCSpray

>>170810567
>5 Minute MatchMaking Waiting.
>Just Shitpost at FHG/DSG
That's what I do honestly.

Also did they do something with Duel Buff? I threw one at guy, and his DMB wore off. I did welcome and then he casted it again on same weapon.
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>>170810643
Oh no, a couple times it's been obvious that the invaders have been fighting on the host's side, but that's been rare. I'm Aussie, so if this Bloodshade shit is predominantly American I won't have really seen any of it.
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>>170811060
I'm going for something like this, Crow Quills/Exile GS
I think the Fire Keeper robe looks nice but the frills are a bit too annoying

>>170811181
better luck next time champ
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>>170810892
Slave knight leggings
Exile Mask
Iron Bracelets
No Chestpiece

Become The Gimp
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so

why the fuck does Aldrich have the gravelord sword?

is it because he is secretly the third reincarnation of nito after the rotten?
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>>170810639
How the hell do you even punish it? I've faced this shit in duels before where they just spam that crap. And I use a fucking halberd, but that shit just has such long range. I can avoid it really easily, but they can just roll out or chain more attacks in if I move in after they are done. I've learnt to just walk away and avoid them while they spam it until they stop using it.
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>>170811675
I can't stop looking at the fat deacon's face.
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>>170811517
Kinda looks like crossdressing. Hmm...

Try shadow or black leather chest maybe?
Cornyx chest could look great too.
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>>170811675
No, it's because he ate Nito. Clue's in the name, mate: "Devourer of Gods," as in, plural.
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>>170811740
acquire any weapon with perseverence or stomp

even the fucking dark sword will poise through it and outtrade them
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>>170811796
how can he eat someone who's died two times already?
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>>170811675
Aldritch is a prophet and seer who can create miracles from nothing. He made Lifehunt Scythe just after dreaming. Same with Nito's sword.
Alternatively, he ate the shard of his Lord Soul.
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what happens if you kill every NPC you encounter?
there's no way you can play as anything other than simple melee right?
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Does anyone have the cheat table for Dark Souls 1?
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>>170810421
Oh lordy!

>invade this person again
>they've summoned someone else
>it's this Dark Sword, Curse Ward Greatshield shitter I've killed before
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>>170811796
How does that shit work anyway, since the plyable chacter was the one to kill Nito in DaS1. Did Aldrich have his own playthrough of DaS1 or something, where our playable character doesn't exist?
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>>170811998
>Did Aldrich have his own playthrough of DaS1 or something

>yfw Aldrich is an interdimentional monster that keeps consuming souls and then hops world
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>>170811903
How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?

Seriously, though, you can eat a corpse, and you can eat the souls of corpses.

>>170811998
It could be that the Lord Souls, once returned to the First Flame, somehow arise again in new locations. When the Chosen Undead linked the fire (which canonically happened, given he/she is part of the Soul of Cinder), those souls were returned to the Flame, and thus they could presumably be found again by someone else.
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>>170811796
"Devourer of God" is a shitty name though
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Does anyone have like a list of all catalysts multiplies in dark souls 1? I´ve seen one for dark souls 3 and am wondering if there is one for Dark souls 1 that shows how much each catalyst deals damage at each point of faith/int
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Now that I've finished dark souls 1 using mainly melee and some pyro near the end, I'll be pretty good at the game in ds2 right?
It's rather similar to dark souls 1 isn't it?
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>>170811960
https://mega.nz/#!DZswmY6a!llvcxQ95V6UW5zCN5CNdlwbUSy6vYq99vr46htpsxUs

Two different tables, as well as a third that is just a script to give massive item droprate if you have at least 10 soft humanity.
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So, which is better: Sharp infusion on Lothric Knight Long Spear + Carthus Flame Arc, or just giving it a Chaos infusion? Assume 30 DEX, 15STH, 40INT and 40FTH.
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What makes Hollowslayer Greatsword higher Tier than Claymore?
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>>170812887
Yeah, they are both video games.
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>>170813052
Go with physical infusion + Darkmoonblade
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>>170813096
I just mean it took me almost 12 hours to get good at the combat in dark souls 1. Now I understand it. Will I have problems like that in dark souls 2?
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>>170812903

Thanks, anon!
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>>170812887
The basics are all pretty much the same, yes.
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>>170813078
The blender. Also Hollowslayer has the best poise of all GS
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>>170813078
it has the spinning thing after a swing
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>Grey Giant shouts "Harken to the call that summons thee"
Why do i get the feeling he's calling to the darksign in the sky?
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>>170813351
>>170813345
But the hollowslayer can't be buffed or infused while clay can. Doesn't the extra 150 some AR from human pine completely blow out the moveset differences?
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>>170813173
But I ain't no sorcerer, dammit. I'm a fucking pyro. I needs my flames, y'dig?

Also, I really don't want to grind through the Darkmoon covenant because it sucks ass.
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>>170813496

Nah, man. He's just calling to the boss of the area. Probably that big-ass dark dragon.
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>>170813670
>implying boss won't come from the darksign itself
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>>170813504
No. Resins aren't as good as you think due to the way defense works.
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>>170813496
He's going to call in the abyss corrupted greatwolf and an npc enemy with not-artorias gear.
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>>170812441
mugen
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>>170813504
Buffs only make a meaningful difference if you have like 60 faith/int and dorkmoon/lightning blade/crystal magic weapon
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Am i wasting my time running SLI for Dark Soul 3? Does anybody else do it? I just realized i have had it on for the last 700hours of gameplay.
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>>170814428
Do you feel like you're wasting your time? What do you expect to gain from it?
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>Now, what are you playing at with this circus? This cesspool of doddering oldfolk and degenerates. Couldn't be better. She must fit in perfectly here.

Seriously, what the FUCK is his problem?
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>>170814638

He's very tsun-tsun.
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>>170814537
Im basically just wondering if it affects the framerate or graphics in any. How do i know if a game is optimized for SLI to begin with? Sorry for getting a bit off topic here guys.
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>>170779520
when will this shit get a discount?
springsale or something?

I'm kinda reluctant to milk myself 85 fucking euronigger currencies.
Just a couple weeks before a sale may begin.
And certainly before they do the ultimate fucking jew again and re-release the same fucking game on separate servers as they did with the Scholar of the First Jew.
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>>170814638
He sized up firelink pretty accurately
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>>170814845
>re-release the same fucking game on separate servers

Nah, man. The Fire Fades Edition is just a GOTY edition--just the base game + DLC. No server split involved.
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>>170814827
The game is capped at 60 fps and isn't optimization all that well, if you've played the game for that long and never thought about it, it's probably running perfectly fine.

Really the best way to find out would be to turn off SLI and try it.
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>>170814428
What card are you running?
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>>170815110
2 660ti's
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>>170779520
Wait, the bat is the FIRST boss? What?
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>>170788616

the scrap of the painted world of ariandel. painted with humanity.
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>>170815458

1. bat
2. dragon
3. firekeeper
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>>170815705
Stop pulling this bullshit out of your ass every thread. The DLC isn't even out yet.
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>>170815239
Yeah, probably keep it on SLI, those cards are pretty old. It's not like you're really wasting anything by running SLI anyway, the extra power drain wouldn't be that much.
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>>170814373
Is blessed weapon worth it the points?

I got high faith holy knight build with lightning blade and I don't feel it's worth it. I'm thinking about just going 15 faith and enough FP to cast tears and blessed once.
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>going back from nioh to dark souls
>hyperarmor has an awkward delay before activation
>stealth spell lasts 15 seconds instead of a solid minute
>weapon weight counts towards total encumbrance instead of it being an armor-only stat to avoid situations where rapier users can afford more armor than a STR build with an UGS
>buffs feel awkward and really don't change the way you can play as radically as the ones in nioh
>cast speed bonuses are laughable while in nioh a single mage skill completely changes the way you're playing the game with them
Why From became so afraid of giving the player actually working things and mechanics after DeS? It feels jarring in DS1 already.
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>>170815908
No, most people use blessed weapon for the cosmetic effect only more than anything.
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>>170815908
Blessed weapon is only worth it on weapons that already have really high physical base damage. FUGS for example.
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>>170816031
You have to go back
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>put sign down for Sulyvahn even though I'm terrible with him
>get a summon
>got hit exactly once
>dodged every swing of his "stamina lol" combo twice in a fucking row
why
why can't I play like this in my own world
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>>170816502
It's different when you're doing things to help others.
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>>170816502
Most bosses are trivialized by approaching it not-solo because boss AI can't actually deal with multiple targets.
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I think I'm gonna make him a sorcerer, but idk what good spells would fit the build or what clothes I could use.
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what determines whether or not someone will fall off of a ladder when it comes to being hit with weapons/spells?
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>>170816738
It's completely based on them running out of stamina, which drains every time someone is hit while on a ladder.
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>>170816738
Stamina.
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>>170816502
Latency + Boss AI shitting the bed with multiple targets. You literally have larger windows for dodging their attacks when playing online, plus they will let you range them a lot more easily.
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Which dragon is the best husbando?
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Been replaying the game and did the DLC for the first time. Got a few questions

1. Does anyone else think the Abyss Dragon might turn out to be Ocelotte, considering he's a child of dragons and all the connections to the Abyss in the Consumed King's Garden (Untended Graves, Pus of Man)? The woman could be the queen of Lothric

2. Is Rosaria Gwynevere or no? I mean, there's no evidence but the fact that you get Gwynevere's miracle from Roaria's soul and considering you invade Leonhard in Gwynevere's chamber makes me think it's her.

3. Why was Horace in the Smoldering Lake? I'd understand if we had found his body down there because he could've just fallen but he's still alive. Did he walk down there and just hollow or what?

4. Correct me if I'm wrong on the DLC lore:

>Painted World of Ariamis rotted like all painted worlds do eventually
>Father Ariandel somehow restored the painting with the aid of the painter loli
>new painted world starting to rot again
>Friede comes in and convinces Ariandel to let the painting rot instead of just burning it down (literally?)
>Corvian Knights are loyal to Friede and kill everyone who isn't obedient or wants to destroy the painting or some shit

The fire they're talking about, is it the stuff inside Ariandel's bowl? Is Ariandel somehow controlling the flame with his blood? Why can't they put it out? How did they restore the painting? Can't they just do it again?

Also, why is the Painter inside the painting? Who the fuck is the Painter anyway? Is she some kind of god who creates worlds however she pleases? Did she also draw the first painted world?
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>>170816827
>>170816859
would hitting someone with a +0 greatbow do less stamina damage than if you were to upgrade it?
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>>170816713
>>170816914
o-oh
Speaking of, is there a list of recommended levels for co-oping bosses? I took a little while to actually get a summon this time around, but I tend to be way under the norm.
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>>170816035
>>170816114
I guess I go faithless holy knight build.
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this weapon art is amazing against bosses, I went in without estus and poisoned, and it took away all the boss' health. I just had to run and wait.
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>>170817283
>Does anyone else think the Abyss Dragon might turn out to be Ocelotte

No.

>Is Rosaria Gwynevere or no?

No.

>Why was Horace in the Smoldering Lake?

He fell for a ruse.
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>>170817695
SL 30 and lower for abyss watchers and anything before them, SL 30-40 for Wolnir, Demon king might be quite barren. SL 40-50 for Pontiff. Anywhere from SL 55-70 for Aldrich/Yhorm. SL 70-90 for anything else, including the DLC.
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>>170818045
yeah storyteller poison has the highest overall poison damage per bar in series
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>>170818128
More or less what I was shooting for, thanks.
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>>170818045
It also makes Pontiff really trivial. He takes like 56 dmg per tick
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>sign down at crucifixion woods to help with the enemies there & crystal sage
>host takes us all the way through farron keep swamp
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>>170817283
>Does anyone else think the Abyss Dragon might turn out to be Ocelotte

Nah, because Ocelotte was originally going to be present during the boss fight and get inadvertently pancaked by his father at the start of phase 2. They just turned his model's visibility off and removed some of his audio clips (such as his pained cries of being ground into mulch). As to the woman overgrown by vines in the trailer, it's likely that's Gwyn's youngest daughter, whom he gave to the pygmies inhabiting the Ringed City for some reason.

>Is Rosaria Gwynevere or no?
Who the fuck knows? There's too little info to make any sort of judgment on this.

>Why was Horace in the Smoldering Lake?
He got separated from Anri and bumbled his way down there somehow, just like you do.

>Correct me if I'm wrong on the DLC lore
All the greentext stuff is spot-on. As to the questions, yes, the fire everyone fears is that flame in the (Lord)vessel Ariandel has. He's quenching said fire by self-flagellating. It can't be put out completely, though, because it's an innate part of the world, and they can't just "restore" the painting because that's effectively what he's already doing. The painting is made with blood and fire, and he's already adding as much blood as he can.

As to who the Painter is, we don't fucking know. She's somebody important, and has some vaguely draconic features, like scales, so make of that what you will. Some think her eyes look kind of like those of the Primordial Serpents, so you might take that into account, too.
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What did titicaca mitsubishi mean by this?
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>>170818649
The same thing he meant when he had the wall sconces in the Ariandel boss room after the Father destroys the walls:

Time is convoluted.
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>tfw dragonforms isn't hued by your skin color
>tfw cant fully emulate scaless senpai

post your silly RP builds
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>>170818407
>sign down right outside crystal sage
>host runs back into the woods and r1's fucking everything in sight
I think he just wanted somebody to watch him.
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Do staves have different cast times in ds3? Also what would be the best staff to use for pure sorceries between 45-50 int?
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What does the Witches Ring in ds1 do? I took it because it seemed mysterious
First playthru btw
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Anyone else thinks the crystal sage rapier has a too large dex/str requirement?
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>>170819934
Let's you understand a certain NPC you normally wouldn't be able to.
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>>170819934
It lets you hear the voice of that which has none.
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>>170819813
heretic staff at 40
court sorcerer or sorcerer staff at 50
court sorcerer at 60

witch tree branch has faster cast speed than other catalysts, but also shitty spell buff
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>>170816031
>>weapon weight counts towards total encumbrance instead of it being an armor-only stat to avoid situations where rapier users can afford more armor than a STR build with an UGS

This made me realize. You know what would be fucking cool. If You could further increase your Equip Load by increasing STR. Gains should probably be half of Vit but yeah. Hell every stat should have one Primary and Secondary increase.
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>>170819813
Only the witchtree branch is faster, best staff for 45-50 int is the sorcerers staff.
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>>170819934
You can combine it with a soul of this gross gray spider monster for one of the best weapons in the game.
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>>170819934

Allows you to talk to someone Queelag's sister, who usually just says "?"
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>>170820020
>>170820043
Aight cool
Thanks
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>>170820078
Is it worth pushing to 60 int for a sl 100 build?
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>>170818461
Thanks for the answers.
I thought they might've just removed Ocelotte from the bossfight to reuse him sometimes later on because it's wasted potential.
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>>170820240
yes

at 50 int you'll have 202 spell buff on court sorcerer

at 60 it's 238
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>>170820242
it's more likely they removed him due to censorship, killing kids tends to get your game banned in a lot of countries
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>>170818407
>put sign down at ariandel chapel to help with Friede
>host summons 3 more phantoms
>he goes to the Depths
>make our way down the vines
>drops to death on that last vine with the archer
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>>170814638
He has standards.
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How can the Untended Grave be in the past but still physically connected to the real world? Why does it have connections to the Abyss?

Is it because time is """""convoluted"""""?
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>>170820242

Like >>170820537 said. I'm sure the ESRB flipped their shit at that. Hell, they gave Ace Attorney 5 a "Mature" rating apparently just because a minor is in close relation to a dead body. They're very sensitive to kids + violence.
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>>170820793
You answered your own question there champ.
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>>170820793
You just answered your own question. Also, it's separated from the real world by an illusion.
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>>170820793
>>170820879
The whole 'time is convoluted' thing is why I can't take any of the lore seriously. It's one of the worst excuses for shit I've ever seen.
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>>170820793
Because the Untended Graves is the "real" world, while the Firelink Shrine we inhabit over the course of the game is a separate pocket reality Ludleth willed into existence when his world fell to darkness.
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>>170820793
there's a cool theory about Ludleth on reddit. Check it out. It says that Untended Graves is actually a present, and our Firelink is a "new vision" that Ludleth painted with Firekeeper.
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First off I haven't used CE since before souls games even existed. Does everyone just use it to change soul count without consequence? I keep seeing these ridiculous numbers in people's videos and screenshots.
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>>170821029
Yea, it's just lazy

>hurr I can do whatever I want and don't have to explain shit lol
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>>170821084
You can only do that in DS1, if you do it in DS2/3 you're pretty much guaranteed to get softbanned.

Personally I only ever use CE as a way to circumvent any sort of farming because I've dumped too much time into these games to not get burned out from that kind of shit now.
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>>170821193
ON MY WAY
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>>170821080
>It says that Untended Graves is actually a present, and our Firelink is a "new vision" that Ludleth painted with Firekeeper.

and how does this shitty theory explain the fact that the shrine handmaiden recognizes you if you visit untended graves first, proving it's in the past?

or the fact that it's the only place where the sun is gone.
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>>170821193
Sure can. Password?
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>>170821307
What's your name so I know what to look for?
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>>170821358
set a password
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>>170821029
What bothers me more...

>Anri and Horace are in your world, yet you get summoned into Anri's world and apparently Horace is a phantom there too?
>but then Siegwald is just there in your world
>summoning Hawkwood somehow allows him to accomplish his goal even though phantoms are supposed to be there to help the host
>the whole shit with Sirris

Just how the fuck does all this summoning shit work? There's absolutely zero consistency.
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>>170821276
Thanks, that makes sense with what i've seen. It's a pity because shit like that is holding me off buying DaS1 on PC after years of dealing with PS3 framerates.
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>>170821415
>>170821341
>>170821307
I ran too fast and fell, password is dsg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI7nRkq9CEo
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>>170821568
>babbies first attempt at ubderstanding flows of time and reality flowing through eachother instead of multiple closed off universes
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>>170821568
I'm entirely okay with summoning having zero consistency if that means NPC questlines don't have boss fights you have to ruin by having them in them. In fact, I'm disappointed that Siegward's fight against Yhorn ALSO wasn't a summon.
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>>170821745
Yhorm's a gimmick boss anyway so it doesn't matter.
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pcfc here when
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>>170821331
>Proving it's in the past
Or, considering the Darker shrine is actually physically connected to the rest of the game world, it's in the present and the Brighter Firelink is in the Future.

What do you reckon is more likely? Travelling back in time when you essentially walk down a corrider, or traveling through time when you legitimately WARP BETWEEN TWO LOCATIONS.
>But why's it bright then?
Either Ludleth made it bright when he "painted" it, or it takes place in the "Future" after the Unkindled link's the fire once more.
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>>170822237
You got her pictured.

>weak waifu bait
>gay invisibility gimmick
>cheap wannabee Maiden Astraea
>no real place in the story
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>>170822370
when you host one
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>>170822237
Artorias is a sacred cow that has been surpassed several times in the context of tthe later games in my opinion, at least gameplay and concept wise.
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who /stealth/ here?

>obscuring ring
>slumbering dragoncrest ring
>hornet ring
>lingering dragoncrest ring +2
>hidden body
>STRONGEST FUCKING WEAPON YOU HAVE

It's the funnest build to use in DaS3 invasions. Especially good against cocky hosts who fuck around because they're surrounded by 2 or 3 butt buddies.
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>>170821690
Played it for a bit today, but my PC is not good enoughto get decent FPS (got around 9-11 fps in Boletarian Palace, and around 15-17 in the Tutorial area). Still, it's nice progress for an emulator that was almost dead 2 months ago.
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>>170821568
>>summoning Hawkwood somehow allows him to accomplish his goal even though phantoms are supposed to be there to help the host


Did you mean the dragon stone gauntled thingie? He is helping you though.
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>no new katana weapon
shit dlc desu
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I need some help, not sure how rounding works in DaS3.

If I set my estus to 11 and ashen estus to 4, will I have 5 estus and 2 ashen estus?
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>>170822638
You forgot Carthus Milk Ring and roll up to them from obscuring range before the backstab
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>>170822801
It's not like they revealed all DLC weapons.
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>>170822919
it rounds down, have your estus on even numbers
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>>170822638
Wear untrue white ring and plainish armor. With the right stuff equipped you'll look like a ghost of another player just walking around. Clever use of gestures as well (Like the Rest emote at a dormant bonfire) and you'll truly be hiding in plain sight.
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>>170822237
>>170822526
She's also a liar.
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>>170821084
Because once you stop levelling at SL125, if you keep running through NG++++ you get insane amounts of souls with nothing to spend it on after you get 999 of each bomb, resin, herb, and all the cosplay outfits.
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>>170822943
Theres no katana in the spoilers.Highly unlikely that there will be one. The thing about DaS2 was that it had a lot of katanas, the lack of katanas in DaS3 is sad.
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Again just outside of fog?
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>>170823061
>This land is peaceful, it's inhabitants kind
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>>170822623
Even Penetrator from DeS surpasses him in many ways imo.
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>>170823196
>the lack of katanas in DaS3 is sad
Weeb detected.

There are at least half a dozen katanas off the top of my head.

We don't need gay weeb weapons in a European medieval setting, what we need is a fucking strength-based greatsword other than FUG that is actually viable in PVP.
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>>170823196
>The thing about DaS2 was that it had a lot of katanas

And it became the most boring weapon class. Funny how dark souls 2 katanas stopped being complete top tier simply because they were so overused. It didn't take long before everybody knew all the "tricks" you could do with the katana movesets.
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>>170823397
Technically she's at least half right, before you got there the place was peaceful.
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>>170823529
>Bonewheels in the basement
Peace was never an option
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>>170823529
If the place really was peaceful then all the enemies would kindly have shown me the exit instead of impeding me by running me over, spitting toxic at me, or crow rape.
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>>170811796
>Devourer of Gods
His name is "the God Eater" in the original Japanese, which is much more fitting considering we only have evidence that he ate one god.
As for the Gravelord sword, maybe he joined Nito's covenant or something? He was a Way of White cleric.
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>>170823529
>You arrive to scenes of torture, mass-murder, plagued zombies, a rotting dragon.
>Things were fine till you got here
Really activates my almonds
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>>170823419
>>170823409
But in DaS2 we had 7 katanas until the dlcs released that made it to 8 katana. I expected something similar to happen to DaS3 to have another katana in the dlc to make it to 8 katanas in the game.
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>>170821331
Light Firelink is a singularity at the end of time. Time and everything else is ending as "the fire" fades. The fire is a metaphor for the Sun or star which sustains life in the DS universe. When stars run out of fuel they collapse into a black hole and go dark, DS3 applies this idea to a medieval world where time and lands are converging together as the world ends.

The black sun represents the fire collapsing into a black hole. Light Firelink is on the event horizon frozen in time. The collapsed landscape of the Kiln area is the DS world right before it collapses in on itself into a black hole and disappears.
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>>170823340
We did it, we finally became dark souls 3. I'll be at grand archives if anyone wants to help there. Pass is dsg at bonfire.
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>>170823929
Yeah, but that doesn't make it any less peaceful if everyone worked out their differences prior to your arrival.
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>>170822237
O&S
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>>170823949
No. Play Weeb Souls if you want more Katanas than the 7 already in the game.
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>want to do some low level jolly co-operation in DaS1
>never got connected to any nodes
Fuck nodes
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>>170823929
In the Dark Souls world, instead of finding a cure for cancer, they just shove it in a pocket dimension and never speak of it again.
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>>170824167
Are you using DSCM fix or just pvp watchdog?
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>>170785603
>tfw the sun looks like a way of white corona in the Hollow Lord ending.
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>>170785103
>lucerne is the lowest tier despite a having the highest dps of any +15 weapon for quality builds
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So what so you do to make a decent pyromancer in this game?
with needing both Faith and Int as well as attunement surely some other combat stat greatly suffers.
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>>170824208
Both, yet it won't connect me to any nodes. Sometimes I just get them before I've even selected my character and sometimes I don't. Am I doing something wrong?
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>>170824047
>Yeah, but that doesn't make it any less peaceful if everyone worked out their differences prior to your arrival.
They worked out their differences by tying people to the breaking wheel; burning them at the stake, and putting them in tiny little prison cubes.

Doesn't sound like they worked out any differences.

I think Priscilla is supposed to be so sheltered, she doesn't even realize what is happening outside her fog gate.
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>>170822943
The only katana we need is Alonne's odachi, anything else would be unnecessary and lame.
unless they also add a kyu gunto
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I've picked up das3 again after a year of inactivity and holy shit, why is parrying so hard compared to das1? Any tips?
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>>170824262
If we're talking DS3, it's more you just can't go quality while also going pyro. Pick either STG or DEX and find a weapon that scales well with one of those stats because you're only going to have the points for one while also running FTH/INT.
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>>170824232
It goes from the Darksign (darkness ringed by fire, the symbol of the curse) to darkness ringed by white, the symbol of Humanity.

In linking the fire ending, it stays as the darksign.

In the darkness ending, everything just goes dark.
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>>170821029
>The whole 'time is convoluted' thing is why I can't take any of the lore seriously.
Time is a property of the first flame, anon.
When the fire weakens, so does the rest of reality.
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>Decide to give Dark souls a go on pc
>Window is 1/4 of the screen, rest black
>Controls is console keys, meaning it's impossible to tell how to do actions
>Sluggish yet hypersensitive mouse
I regret it. Thank god for refunding
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Because I feel like it, I'm gonna reinstall DS1
Do I still have to install a mod so stuff actually looks half-decent and if yes,how do I do it or is it now included in the Steam version?
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>have every piece of armor, every weapon and every spell in the game
>continue to use this generic shit instead

I can't be satisfied with anything in DaS1 anymore.
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>>170824437
this desu
We need an odachi so bad. It was probably the most coolest weapon in DaS2. I miss it so much.
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>>170824437
>What we want is another katana
>Make it exactly like the washing pole
>but longer
You wish.
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>>170824446
DS1 parrying is pretty much all instant, no startup frames before the parry "sweet spot".
DS3 has startup frames on all parrying tools, so parry like fucking microseconds earlier than you're used to.
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>>170824485
>In the darkness ending, everything just goes dark.
I still don't know what this ending is about.
What does the firekeeper mean when she says she sees "tiny embers in the dark, linked by lords past" or whatever she says?
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>see someone requesting dsg help at Grand Archives
>decide to go and help
>host kicks me

Well, screw you too, mate.
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>>170824301
I don't know, I just opened up my DSCM to check and got at least 14 nodes just standing around firelink. I can only assume there's something wrong with your setup but I have no idea what it could be.
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>>170823196
In Vaati's notes ? Of course, he only got to play the first part of the DLC, up to the first boss. And Bamco would only show early DLC stuff in their info batches.
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>>170823929
Ashes of Ariandal explains this. The painted world is a peaceful place until the rot starts to settle in.
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>>170824703
In the dark ending, you are killing the world so a new one can be born eventually.

In the light ending, you are postponing the apocalypse again, even though things get worse each time, and the curse of undeath will just continue to destroy the kingdoms of men.

In the usurpation ending, you create a new world for humanity, but of uncertain nature.
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>>170824262
Assuming you're talking about DaS3, you need only get the Great Chaos Fire Orb, which you can get fairly early into the game if you rush through it a bit, get 27vig and work your way towards 40/40 int/fai, this should be enough to drag you through one game cycle. For weapons I recommend low requirement weapons that you can infuse with Chaos/Dark, any from pic related should do. Then dump whatever points you have left into end/vig. I also recommend capping out at 125, pyros are already starving for points as it is.
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>>170824649
Alonne's sword was cool because it was a fusion of katana and pole arm in terms of moveset and had one sick as fuck buff when you two hand it.
I personally would just give it a completely different moveset that more resembled Alonne's actual fighting style, but beggars can't be choosers.
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>>170824875
>>170824703
To answer your question in more specific terms: In the dark ending, the firekeeper is talking about how, once the world has ended, eventually a new first flame will appear and a new world will be born.

Also interesting to note: The firekeeper is seduced by this idea when you give her the eyes. Ludleth knows about the eyes and the other world, but actively rejects it in favor of continuing this one.
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>>170824649
But we really need a good katana .All katanas that are not washing pole have their weakness.
>Uchigatana
probably the most balanced katana but has bad AR
>Black blade
Too short
>Chaos blade
Self damage
>Darkdrift and bloodlust
they are crap
>2kat
Although they are p unique and viable they are kind of dependent on the wa making them kind of gimmicky.
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No TRC phone footage from PAX ? Or did Bamco not allow people to take footage of gameplay ?
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>Base game pyromancy has te best spells
>DLC1 adds a better pyromancy flame and a greatsword for pyromancers
>DLC2 will add a curved sword (as if that wasn't cancer enought) that doubles as a pyromancy flame
>And a pyromancy fan
>And probable a lot of cool pyromancies based on the bat boss
>Meanwhile magic and miracles have to sit in the corner eating their snots

Yeah fuck you too memehacki
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>>170825119
>DLC2 will add a curved sword (as if that wasn't cancer enought) that doubles as a pyromancy flame

You've got it backwards, mate. It's a Flame that doubles as a curved sword.
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>>170824561
noone?
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>>170824546
Did you not get the basic fix?
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>>170825119
>a better pyromancy flame
It is? I thought it was worse in almost every aspect save for an estus charge gimmick and a specific boost to touch-range combustion type spells.
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>>170825119
Is it really better than the standard version?
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>>170825041
And considering the entire theme of AoA, does this mean that the dark ending is the best one in the larger scope of things?

>The firekeeper is seduced by this idea when you give her the eyes. Ludleth knows about the eyes and the other world, but actively rejects it in favor of continuing this one.

I find it also interesting that Ludleth is steering the ashen one to link the fire, but ultimately leaves the choice to him.

>I took the mantle of Lord of Cinder of mine own volition.I speak these words with pride.
>Choose thy fate alone. Seize it with thine own hands. All the more, should thy fate entail such foul betrayal.
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>>170811796
Nito wasn't a god. And Aldritch didn't eat him.
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>>170825340
>>170825352
Yeah, he doesn't know what he's talking about. The basic Flame gives you slightly better scaling for spells once upgraded and 40 DEX/FTH.
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>>170823929
>>170824047
>>170824310

Only thing we know about the original painted world is Ariamis is no where to be found, it seems to have been a planning ground for the storied occult rebellion to kill the gods, and in turn the gods use it as a dumping ground for dangerous things and prisoners. There's a lot of Velka shit there for some reason. Pricilla seems to be a shitty steward of the place and tells people that don't belong how to gtfo. She's also delusional. There's a bunch of people outside dedicated to making sure no one gets in or out of the painting and a statue of big tits mcgee watches over the room.

>>170824848
It wasn't necessarily the rot that made things shitty in Ariandel, it was Friede usurping the place pretending to be a Pricilla like figure, and having the crow knights brutally suppress and murder all the inhabitants that disagreed with her plan.
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>>170825278
So it's Blue Flame 2.0 ?
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What's the Luck soft cap?
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How does the scaling work on the Onyx Blade? Does INT/FAI only increase the buff damage?
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>>170796043
>try to get him early game
>his r2 does literally more damage than I have health

o-okay..
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>>170825419
It seems like the dark ending is the good ending in the long term, given what facts we have.

None of them are really good though

>Kill everyone
>Let everyone live long enough so they turn into zombies that kill eachother
>Age of perpetual twilight where everyone turns into zombies with you as the zombie king
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>>170826156
It increases the dark damage. the buff is a flat increase I believe.
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>>170825681
>Nito wasn't a god. And Aldritch didn't eat him.
Nito was as much of a god as Gwyn.
"God" is more of a title than an actual species.

>>170825865
>It wasn't necessarily the rot that made things shitty in Ariandel, it was Friede usurping the place pretending to be a Pricilla like figure, and having the crow knights brutally suppress and murder all the inhabitants that disagreed with her plan.
And the reason Friede and her darkwraith corvians did what they did was so the painting wasn't burnt down to remove the rot.
Or did you miss all of those bird people dragging their own intestines and lying in rotted patchs of filth?
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>>170825119
we're getting a cool bow that shoots lightning arrows
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>>170801048
That's extra shitty cause you know it took him like an hour to be summoned
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What are you taking into TRC first, /dsg/? I'm probably taking my Quality, but I am lvling a Pyro at the moment and it's fun.
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Is the immolation tinder any fun?
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>>170826582
What level or password?
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>>170826551
I've just finished msking a dex/int character for my first dlc run. I'm going to grab that new dagger at the start and use that all the way through
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>>170826753
Yes

but most fags here will tell you to be a complete shitter and use gay spells like Great Farron Dart and Great Soul Arrow because they don't know what fun is
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>>170826406
No, its the title of Gwyn's decendants/pals. Go find me a reference calling Nito a god. Pretty certain you won't find one, because he isn't a god.

He was as much of a Lord as Gwyn, as were the Bitch of Islington and the Hidden Midget.
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>>170818347
Just killed him, poison took almost all his life and I only had to hit him once.
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>>170826551
1st - Str/Int
2nd - Str/Pyro
3rd - Dex/Int
4th - Quality
5th - Dex/Faith
6th - Pure Faith
7th - Str/Luck
8th - Pure Dex
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>>170824561
So Steam finished downloading.
And it sucks graphically, still.
What is that mod and where do i get it?
I also want to change the language from german to english, which is weird because I set my Steam to english so it automatically downloads the english version of games, normally
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>>170827150
Nito is worshipped as a god by the gravelord servants covenant.

Covenenants are religions, since Way of White (Gwyn worship) is explicitly stated as a religion with its own priests and everything.

Other religions don't necessarily have priests and a traditional religious structure though.
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>>170826551
I'll take my quality in first, just to see what it's about, then I'll have my Pyro reap all those sweet new toys.
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>>170826938
I think he's referring to the fact that he's stuck inside an object

>>170826406
>Nito was as much of a god as Gwyn.

good luck finding a single reference that calls the witch of izalith or nito a god fuckface

meanwhile occult boosted damage against silver knights and gwyndolin, giving them more in common with gods than either nito or the witches
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>>170827506
>occult boosted damage
Is occult weaponry related to Nito or to the Dark?
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>das3 has good gameplay but stutters quite a bit
>tw3 has shit gameplay but doesn't stutter

Fucking kill me.
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>>170827506
Right, but how the fuck are we supposed to pull him out of there if we can't get summoned due to SL difference?
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>>170826551
I'm having a hard time deciding on whether I should bring my sorcerer for that sweet new dagger/sword

my pyromancer for the slew of new pyromancies and new curved sword

my strength build for lmao2doors

or my quality build for just being able to use most of the stuff I find that isn't magic.
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>>170827636
it's related to havel
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>>170827506
There's an entire religion built around Nito, fuckface.

The religious nature of covenants is extremely obvious, especially in DS3, where you literally pray to certain idols or characters to deliver covenant items.
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>>170827691
>dragonbutt.webm

That's a mod, right?
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>>170827675
>pull him out

only an invader would be able to affect him and it's not like he can go touch a summon sign if he's inside an object.
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>>170827439
I don't care if he had a covenant. So did the Fair Lady and she isn't a goddess either, she's a demon. As did Kaathe, who was a Primordial serpent.

It doesn't matter if he was venerated, because this isn't a question of veneration, its a question of heritage. All those irythilian fuckers shipped to Aldritch and Sulyvaan weren't venerated. It implies half of them didn't even know what they were.
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>>170827691
I'm having a hard time too, kind of waiting til it gets closer, when we have a better idea of whats all in the DLC.
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>>170827987

Well, certainly not with that attitude.
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>>170827864
>There's an entire religion built around Nito, fuckface.

>covenant
>a religion

next you'll tell me Kaath, Alvina or the dragon in ash lake are gods too you double ghru
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>>170827853
>Havel club has occult damage
>Velka's rapier has occult damage
>dark hand does occult damage
So where does it come from?
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I just started playing AoA and I don't get what all the bitching is about, it seems pretty fucking long. I keep waiting for it to end like you guys implied but it keeps going; I haven't even found the wolf boss.
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>>170828010
>I don't care if he had a covenant. So did the Fair Lady and she isn't a goddess either, she's a demon. As did Kaathe, who was a Primordial serpent.
>It doesn't matter if he was venerated, because this isn't a question of veneration, its a question of heritage. All those irythilian fuckers shipped to Aldritch and Sulyvaan weren't venerated. It implies half of them didn't even know what they were.
Okay, so you're just plain old pulling goalposts out of your ass then.

If covenents are religious in nature (which they clearly are), then the subject of their veneration is a god.

>"But they aren't related tow gwyn's heritage"
Who ever said that was a requirement? Velka isn't related to Gwyn in any way yet is called a god.

At least 90% of the NPCs with dialogue in the series are Gwyn worshippers though, or worshippers of some variant of Way of White, which is why you hear him and his children referred to as their god.

But you can also pray to, say, Old Wolf of Farron, who is clearly not related to gwyn.
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>>170827946
you only need the collectors edition

it disappears after you quit the game and you have to change you values again
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>>170828193
Then how is Gwyn a god?
The so called gods of anor londo are just as killable as everyone else.
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>>170828201

dark soul genuis
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>>170828193
>Not realizing that the word "god" depends on the religious views of the one using it.
Just because Christians don't see Mohammed as a prophet, doesn't mean Muslims don't see him as one.
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>>170828201
Occult is the diametric opposite to Divine. That's pretty much all there is to it. Divine shit gets its strength from the gods and by the same token, light, and Occult being the opposite, well... you do the math.
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>>170828251
>I haven't even found the wolf boss.
You mean you haven't explored properly and found the first village area in the game that's literally just 5 minutes away from the entry point.
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>>170828251
The length complaints are a little bit silly, the part of it that bothers me is how shitty and low-effort the gravetender boss is and how the entire concept of the dlc is just more shitty fanservice.
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>>170828251
I'm with you. The place is fucking massive.
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>>170828378

he isn't

>>170828409

being this toasty
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>>170821568
A summon sign is consistent across all of time until the person or people it was meant for are summoned through it. If she put her summon sign there now to summon you, you would see it there until you accepted the summon, at which point it would bring "you" back in time to when she put the summon sign down.

It's how Tarkus is able to help you with the Iron Golemn despite having been dead for decades.
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>>170828378
>The so called gods of anor londo are just as killable as everyone else.

now you're getting it, religion is a lie in the soul series, I mean the sun is an illusion ffs

>>170828396
>trying to apply real world logic to a videogame that actually defines what a god is within it's world
just keep backpeddling
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None of the characters we visually see in the game are literal Gods silly willies.
The term is used differently in Souls games. God is used to describe beings of extreme power.
Velka is an example of a literal god, maybe.
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>>170828686
>>170828686
>>170828686
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>>170828573
I've never backpedalled, nor has dark souls ever explicitly defined what a god is in their world.

Keep trying though, if you say the same thing enough without anything to back it up, maybe it'll start to resemble something similar to an argument.
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>>170828378
Because that is what his race is called.
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>>170828719
>I've never backpedalled
>made baseless claims
>tried to apply real world logic instead of in game item descriptions

stop posting anytime
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>>170800584
>dks2 and 3 have more than a handful of good pvp weapons
Really gets me thinking.
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>>170828831
I'm talking about how you can, for example, literally -Pray- to Archdeacon McDonald to become an Aldrich Faithful.

Yet you are claiming that Aldrich isn't a god, and there's no religious nature behind this covenant.

You're just plain old retarded. I don't see the point in talking to you. Just don't try to spread your moronic views to others.
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what weapon should i choose for a quality build in das3

what is your favorite quality weapon
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>>170829000
No Aldritch isn't a god either.
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>>170829082
Yet he has priests, faithful, and you pray to his archdeacon when requesting divine favors from him.

Hmmmmmmmmm

Son, you might be a little bit slow to pick up on some things. But I'll share a secret with you: different religions have different ideas of what a god is.
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>people are having the "race of beings this universe considers gods aren't gods by my personal definition" debate again
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>>170829000

there is obviously a religious connotation, but you can worship someone without them being a god. I could go worship a green frog god IRL, doesn't mean it's real.
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>>170829000
>I'm talking about how you can, for example, literally -Pray- to Archdeacon McDonald

jesus christ you're fucking dumb

so now gestures bestow divinity? give me a fucking break, how do you even breathe with your head so far up your own ass?

So I guess you truly think the dragon at the bottom of ash lake is a god because you kneel down to it when you join the covenant then.
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>>170829082
Aldritch isn't of the God species like Gwyn and co >>170828829

But Aldritch is worshiped and so was Nito.
Thats what I'm getting at by calling Nito a "God".
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>>170829470
>Thats what I'm getting at by calling Nito a "God".

and that's what everyone is telling you is wrong

gods are literally a species in the soulsverse
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>>170829387
It's not even that, its that the race called gods are the only ones ever called gods. And this anon wants it to be extended to any old faggot with a covenant.
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>>170829467
>>170829000
>>170828831
>>170828719
>>170828573
The guy literally created the Sun. It's explicitly written, on the Titanite Slab, in actual real-world Norse Runes upside down, that he birthed the Sun out of the First Flame, which is forever linked. That's why he's "Lord of Sunlight", because he is the Lord who had power over the sun, and why after he fucks off to Link the Flame, the Sun slowly dies as the First Flame does in every age.

Even if you're going to be a stubborn asshole, Gwyn himself was an actual theological god and everyone else is technically a god by being biologically related to him. It's like how Izalith literally created life and an entirely new form of existence with her chaos Lordsoul shit, and brought Pyromancy into the world.
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>>170829979
To follow that up: and how everyone related to Izalith is a capital W Witch.

It's a title/species thing. Like fucking "seelie" or whatever.
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>>170829979
>Gwyn himself was an actual theological god
and then he got parried like a bitch
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>>170829470
this >>170829606
And its more than that. Aldritch was specifically targeting descendants the species living in the Undead Settlement.
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>>170830219
Swordsmanship is hard when you're a burnt out husk with less-than-animal awareness of the world around you.

Parrying is only cheating you out of a fun and memorable boss battle that people complain there aren't enough of.
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>>170830404
Flase king Allant > Gwyn
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Anyone need a dsg tactical insertion?
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>>170833982
what
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>>170795335
I dunno what you're talking about, I'm going 40/60 dex/int and Sorcerer gets me there at the lowest level.
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