Shadowverse is a free-to-play class-based CCG.
Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/
New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/
Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390
The GBF collab event is LIVE. Check the following pastebin for details:
http://pastebin.com/3U2KM9p5
Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR
FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/
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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1
Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#
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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing
All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U
Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs
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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872
Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/
Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html
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>>170373245 →
any new leaks yet?
>→ →
First time making a general, you cuckold OP?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12378077
>>170395526
Besides one from like 10 hours ago?
>>170395526
No. We'll get some jp tomorrow
>>170395567
don't bully our new friends!
Play cunnycraft.
When/Why did we go back to the long OP?
>>170395660
Nice thumbnail.
EGGGGGSSS
I feel like the only purpose of the OP beyond identifying the thread is to give something for people to complain about.
Why is sword allowed to be so stupidly OP in T2?
Seriously I choose it every time I can and only get 4-5 wins each time.
I literally only lose if they go second and have a Olivia/Bahamut, it's fucking retarded.
>>170395789
WHO CARES
>Spend the night out withfriends
>Come back and do dailies
>tfw my dailies are now 6 hours behind
>>170395762
No. Sarissa costs too much and she's too weak so even if she doesn't get immediately removed If I shrine her next turn she's not durable enough to make it. and if I make her durable, she just eats removal.
>>170395789
Because death to discord trolls
>>170395874
Second literally doesn't matter anymore for Sword. I just ran into double Tsukome double Jeno who went first, and didn't miss a single mana crystal from 1 to 8. I died to Fangblade.
Sword is beyond a doubt tier 0 in arena. It's infinitely worse than shitstone's arena Mage.
>>170395904
Don't ever reply to me again with that bullshit. I'm in fucking AA1 kid, I don't need your bullshit.
I'll ask again, when did we go back to the long OP? I don't like it.
Please take "egg" out of your OP, you're messing with my catalog.
>>170395874
Becuase Cygames masturbates to their lesbian knight maid waifu.
God forbid she be anything less then tier1
>>170396007
Why do Hearthstone players need to let everyone know they play Hearthstone? Why can't you just talk about Shadowverse in /svg/?
>>170396045
>egg
please dont mention this word here
>>170396045
Remove svg from yours as well, /egg/tard.
Need a concede 44958, please.
>>170395874
I don't understand how they'd do anything about it.
Sword will eventually get nerfed for being OP in the actual meta, but they'll always be best in T2.
How can they nerf their stuff for T2 without messing up the constructed formats?
>>170396149
Because Hearthstone is a perfect example of bad game design and poor balance choices? Because Shadowverse without a doubt copies many aspects from it? You're like the retards who used to bitch and moan whenever the MTG comparisons came up back when Hearthstone was the only choice for digital CCG.
>>170396045
>>170396186
>not even other generals will leave we dragoncucks alone
STOP
>>170396305
Thank you vampy chan.
>>170396372
Can you delete this post? It's fucking stupid, and it just makes our general look bad. Additionally, just don't post in the future.
t. Literally everyone else here
>>170396372
>>170396007
>>170395874
>>/hsg/
Here you can blag about all your shit gameand """"""badly designed""""""" arguments
>>170396045
That's funny, another general I used to post in was asked to put egg back in their OPs because /egg/ liked seeing them.
>>170396186
>>170396609
You don't speak for me faggot. The failings of a game's predecessors will always keep coming up as examples of where they went wrong.
Immortal King
Rarity: Gold
Shadowcraft Follower
Cost 7
4/5
Fanfare: Summon 2 Wights.
Last Word: Add 1 Wight King to your hand, also make its cost 0.
so this card is fucking crazy right? hell it might even be good enough to make it into nep, let alone the midrange tempo deck they seem to be pushing
>>170395762
Don't you mean bunnycraft?
>only 3 days until granblue quests are over
>have only done half of them
Forte is waiting for you
>neutral that summons two goblins
>Sword that summons a commander
>Shadow that summons 2 wights
Is this the theme they are going for ToG?
Congratulations to the Winner of the first SVG Open Tourney: GEARREI
Bracket: challonge.com/en/SVGOT
1st Gearrei
2nd Taigah
3rd Lonfo
4th StrongestCol
5th SatMB, 雪々
7th Catarino
Thank you all for participating, it was fun!
Special thank you to nikojims for streaming GFs. (and me getting BTFO by rowen)
Next Tourney will be on the weekend. Do you guys want a meme, competitive or something more casual like this? There's enough time to discuss.
Post suggestions for rules/format and gimme some feedback if something can be done differently, i'll try to make things more efficient (especially stream and spectator wise i'll need to figure something out).
GGs everybody
>>170396742
Shadowverse isn't the predecessor of Hearthstone. Shadowverse is the successor of great card games like MtG and YGO, and Hearthstone is more in line with games like Candy Crush and Clash Royale.
Seriously, stop posting.
>>170396759
Don't you want FREE rupies? Just do them all in one sitting, it doesn't take that long.
>>170396759
Doable if you don't have a job
>>170396746
It competes with Kawaii in Nep.
>>170396812
You forgot
>A fucking frog
>A fucking egg
Good classes get more good cards that will not see play, because they already have too many good cards. Shit classes get more space filler, because they need them to be constantly at the bottom so that Rune/Forest/Sword players can "Enjoy Shadowverse" with their brain dead tier 1 tempo/combo deck.
>>170396746
He's competing against khawy so no.
>>170396871
Something about shadowverse's lategame seems to remind me of yugioh.
I fucking love yugioh, so that isn't a bad thing.
>>170396759
i got the last of mine yesterday, those cerb and forte sleeves took a lot of effort
>>170396746
>7
He's competing with Kawaii.
Nepnep needs to swing the board state hard on her summon.
>>170396871
>Hearthstone is more in line with games like Candy Crush and Clash Royale.
Lmao. Good bait.
>>170396835
here's the deck I ran if anyone cares
>>170396835
It should be a meme t2 no sword tourney. Also next time post the tourney in advance, that way people can prepare for them and make room, they're interesting but announcing one the same day is kind of jarring.
>>170396835
That was fun! Thanks for hosting the tourney and thanks for the games everyone. It was pretty exciting.
I would like something competitive or casual like this. I don't have many memes on me.
>>170396871
Just end yourself, you pathetic waste of air.
>>170396759
>being a late grinder
Most got their sleeves before day 5. You should be fine if you take it to unranked.
>>170396835
gg all, lost two hard games (mirror seraph going second and roaches going first)
Also gearrei actually won despite a bad matchup, gratz.
>>170396908
>rupies
>granblue quests
you get icons and sleeves, you dumb nigger
>>170396982
>egg isn't good.
It's a great opener for Wizard Dragon since it stops them from dying horribly as they get setup and it becomes fodder for Council later on.
>>170396871
Do you even know what predecessor means? Hearthstone came before it and shit though it may be it's still a major ccg that made a lot of bad choices that serve as examples of where sv is hurtling towards.
>>170397050
Glad I didn't enter, I was about to bring my Elana hybrid. Would have auto lost to pure Seraph, because I'm not gonna fucking run Odins that never show up, unless I play against aggro.
>>170397142
>expecting any more from an attention whore
>replying to it
Please anon. Stop it.
>>170396982
To be fair, blood still has the unrevealed trump cards in the legendaries while Shadow gets a Goliath. Feels bad as a shadow main.
>>170397050
Here's mine too in case anyone was wondering.
>>170397194
Name a single bad choice that Cygames have made.
I'm waiting.
>>170397073
>T2 tourney
oh, sounds fun
>>170396835
take two tourney like >>170397054 said
would be fun desu
>>170396216
>someone who plays a childrens card game calling the engineering games general retarded
wew lad
Control your spergs.
This is low functioning autism as fug.
>>170397046
>>170397017
both those crafts are great in t2 though
>>170397142
Only the bots and AIs gave gold? I got so much I might've become confused with where it came from. Either way, it's no big deal. I finished all quests in a couple hours on day 1 so there's no reason not to do them.
>dumb nigger
Rude.
>>170396982
I dunno, I enjoy beating t1 decks with seacraft or polyphonic.
I need 10 private games with different people for some free rupees. I'm just going to pass my turns so feel free to do whatever.
It'd be nice to have some kind anons help me out.
Match ID: 80409
>>170396352
Reduce the probability of getting cards that are OP for T2 in your picks.
>>170397243
Printing Daria and allowing her atrocities throughout 3 months. Ginger actually looks shitty because she is balanced.
>>170397243
They nerfed PR and Gobu.
These cards were blanced and healthy to the game blizzard would never do something like this.
>>170397229
>Goliath
She's an objectively better Bloody Mary, stop crying. Blood doesn't have a single good legendary. No, 6/6 across 3 bodies for 6 isn't good. I would trade every single Blood legendary for just Cerberus.
>>170397286
i only play t2 once a month
>>170396835
I wouldn't mind streaming again but the only way I would stream a meme tourney is if it was the highest quality of memes, otherwise I would rater off myself instead.
>>170397345
>complaiming about daria
Bet you still cry about Elana
>>170397272
>le epic children's cg meme xDDD
Fuck off, go back to your dead general.
>>170397345
Daria is pretty manageable post PR nerf. Levi is still OP but it's not as bad anymore. That slight change alone helped Sword's viability greatly.
>>170397510
Dude be nice to /egg/. They're cool. Stop being a spastic.
>>170397325
Thank you Luna.
Its still open friends, if anyone else wants to join
>>170397562
No Daria is retard and unfun to play with and against so i will start to throw hshitters buzzword.
She is overstatted,badly designated and not fun to play with and against.
And sword is ded with forest too.
>>170397345
If by "balanced" you mean "hopelessly unplayable" then sure.
This has nothing to do with Rune just having better shit to play; Ginger would be awful in ANY class bar Dragon, and even that's a stretch considering just how many superior memes they have.
She makes Eidolon look good.
>>170397790
Stop playing svg, shower and get a gym membership.
Or rape if you are a turk
>>170397798
Do not give it attention, newfriend.
>>170397790
Just pay a fucking whore.
>>170397790
Women can smell desperation a mile away. As soon as you stop being so thirsty, they will be more interested in you.
>>170397798
Playing with daria IS fun. Nigger
>>170397451
Ha, i can't promise anything. Don't even know how to define a meme tourney. Like how meme is meme enough? And what's the strongest meme deck?
We'll probably just get a bunch of crappy decks if we do this imo.
>>170397247
>>170397054
Yeah i did it on the fly. the weekend one will be up by tomorrow or thursday i figure.
>Take 2
How would that work though? Do people keep their decks and rooms until they lose and have to draft a new one in losers side? That will be easy to fumble.
Or do they draft one for every single round?
Either way the drafting will take away good chunks of time, and doing well in T2 requires you to take your time drafting imo.
>>170397828
Erasmus, baha, zeus, flame destroyers, etc.
>>170397828
Exactly. Daria is busted while Ginger looks like her crippled sister. Her existence is sort of like Emmara Tandris in mtg.
>>170397790
>keep playing shadowverse
>make it big in one of the upcoming svg tourneys
>one of the cuties in this thread will notice and start feeling tingly when they see you scraping face
>get married
>etc. etc.
it's foolproof
I dust every forest and havencraft card I open.
>>170398048
Erasmus, taboos, and lucifer still lets you do some thing on the turn
>>170397736
Out sudokued my guy
>>170397798
>daria is unfun to play with
daria is one of the most fun decks in the game though
>>170398195
Don't even want to meme with petal fencer tempo/non-roach combo/ saha-reina/tia/treant/titania simalacrum evo tempo or do target immune stat boost/count haven?
>>170398209
>turn 9 right into the Bahamut turn, if your opponent has not killed you yet
She doesn't even refill your hand.
>>170396759
I did all mines but fuck rune
>>170398287
That was an impressive amount of self damage senpai
>>170398195
I main those two classes, fight me
>>170398336
Bahamut was such a disaster for deckbuilding
55343
Need private win for daily, preferably not a concede because I still need some matches for the achievement.
>>170397325
Based dingdong
>>170398460
Forestcraft is lame.
>>170398002
The winner would keep the deck, you could make it a king of the hill style tourney and after 2 or 3 loses you're out.
>>170397798
>No Daria is retard and unfun to play with and against so i will start to throw hshitters buzzword.
She can be very oppressive, but I feel it's not any more oppressive than other decks which get god draws.
I dislike Dshift more or Prince of Darkness.
>>170398656
The winner shouldn't keep since is possible to get something OP with triple Baha and 2 Albert
How many Bahamuts/Odins you need? Is one of each enough or should you shoot for 2?
have they confirmed which slot they gimped for the extra lego for each class? are we only gonna have two golds?
>>170398806
3 Odins 2 Bahamuts
>>170398796
Sword would be way to good to be allowed.
Can I do it bros?
Deck code: lirx
>>170398460
Thanks Erika!
>>170398002
I think a nice way to define a meme tourney is to make a list of notable meme golds and legendaries and requires all decks to run at least one of them.
>>170398727
>>170398321
>>170398001
You guys realize that i was being ironic about how hsg players always use the same buzzwords right?
>>170398893
>replying to namefags
Stop it.
>tfw your finish your 3 dailies in 7 minutes
The best feeling in the world. Back to shitposting.
Is he right bros?
>>170398621
I swear the filesize of this image seems to be getting bigger and bigger.
>>170398823
Google doc anon here. I set it as 2 Gold per craft for now until they show us a third. Then I will probably take a slot out of Silver.
so thoughts on this?
>>170398796
you can only get 4 golds/legos in t2
you can't get 3 of the same lego/gold, since you can't get the same card paired with itself
>>170399061
Cancer/10
>>170399061
It's going in non-follower heavy Rune deck. I know I will run a playset
>>170399061
Only useful against snail slow decks.
>>170398997
>>170399061
D.Shift vs control matchup went from 80/20 to 99/1. Can't even "just don't play anything bro" anymore, they can just bounce this and get everything they need. Really good in dirt, that deck is always hurting for draw. Almost a Calamitous tutor for that deck really.
How do you get rid of Sun Aegis?
It's take two, why are people so salty
>>170399248
Stop shitposting retard
>Little Soulsquasher
Cute.
>>170399248
Dies to bane.
>>170399061
I feel like this card is kind of disgusting
>>170399272
I am asking a legit question. I can't think of a way to do so without going full burn.dek
>>170399061
if you drop this against aggro turn 2 instead of removing their shit, you're gonna die. it also doesnt help that it doesnt spellboost the cards you have in your hand. it's only good against slow decks, which you're already favored against (i'm assuming you're gonna play this in d-shift if you do play it), so i don't think this is gonna see much play.
>>170399272
>>170399248
Samefag
>>170399250
>ruining my chances at 5-0
>expecting me not to be salty
>>170396352
Remove classes from T2, cross class decks become norm. Meme the dream
>>170398997
I've never felt that polyphonic put a clock on the game cause they just jerk off then odin/bahamut since you already sacrificed board to ramp and a whole power play turn to drop your 'phonic.
>>170399331
>Legt Question
>Namefag
No, you just want to derail the thread. Kys
need a concede, 97260
>big claw loli
I want to try her out, but that Necromancy and condition might be a tad steep.
>>170398857
fuck you
>>170399061
Conjuring force t1
>>170399327
Is that confirmed? it straight up says it's unaffected by abilities, but if that's the case then it's good that there's counterplay to it granted it's not available to everyone.
>>170399402
I dunno about the other player, but this was my first match of the set
I assume they match people with similar rates, yeah?
>>170399498
Is CyGames pulling a Blizzard and just making it Shadow's turn it be op?
>>170399498
What does a handjob from her feel like?
>>170399498
I want her to squash my little soul.
>>170399061
terrible meme card anyone else who says otherwise is fucking retarded
>>170399498
Well they finally made an evo-related card that's better for player 1 than player 2
>>170399061
>>170399498
where are you guys getting these images from? they're not on the official site nor on the twitter
>>170399498
Just minthe bro
>>170399607
their facebook page
>opponent plays satan
>they get 3 dis damnations in a row
>I play satan
>get 3 servants in a row
>>170399607
Intern-kun's Facebook corner
Also, we /Ghibli/ now.
>>170399498
Shadow generation deck should be fine and you can just minth off-curve
>>170399539
>What is Zeus
>>170399498
>still waiting for a blood lego or gold reveal
i cant take this suspense anymore
>>170399498
wait, so it isn't a fanfare?
so it just automatically kills an evolved follower if you have 4 shadows even if it wasn't just played?
Can anyone help me get a private match win for one of the 20x wins achievement? Stick around if you want or need a concede for dailes.
Lobby: 55344
>>170399693
Good, we didn't have enough shota leaders
>>170399765
>turn 6 play at best since Minthe is just a desert rider on turn 4
Not sure if Midrange needs squashed, but seems good on paper when Soldier gets killed by an evolution.
God damn it.
God damn it.
Daria always draws Blade Mage.
God fucking damn it.
I hate this I hate this I hate this.
I hate starting first and just watching him rape my face and I can't do anything about it I hate this I hate this I hate this.
>>170399840
necromancy is a fanfare effect unless otherwise stated
>>170399840
It's a fanfare you dummy.
>>170399906
Just ward ir bro :^)
>>170399797
Do not give it attention.
>>170399840
What ? No, Necromancy is a "subtype" of fanfare, so when it's on followers it works like a fanfare.
>>170398880
>>170398656
>>170398796
Strawpoll: http://www.strawpoll.me/12485732
also
>Saturday/Sunday? Best time for you?
>Special rules or restrictions?
I'm liking the T2 idea though. Redrafting every round is probably better since we're slightly less at the mercy of rng and we get to draft more, which is the point of T2.
Maybe i'll make a poll on that too.
>>170399498
>shadow needs more retarded cheap removal
>>170399973Sorry, didn't look.
>>170399840
If an effect triggers when the follower is played, then it's a fanfare. Since there is no "at the start of your turn" or "att the end of your turn" clause, Little Soulsquasher Necromancy is fanfare.
>we'll never have different arena's
>no use any card from any craft
>no unlimited pp
>no health set to 50 and cards cost health
>no speed draw where you can both players can play at the same time
>we'll only have take two forever
>>170400073
What's exactly would a meme tourney be?
>>170399906
Ward, heal, and board clear bro. Or just fist his no-no place with more VALUE
>literally just a better jeanne
kek
>>170400073
saturday or friday night would be great
>>170400084
>shadow emptying their shadow pool instead of saving for Death's breath
How about no?
Need a concede senpai!
39384
>>170399824
>Fanfare: kys if you have vengence. If you have vengeance, bend over for your opponent instead.
There, saved you the trouble for waiting. That's literally what every Blood card over 4 mana will ever be. The rest are filler, and if we're lucky, they might release a mediocre aggro drop. How can you suckers still have hope for good Blood and Dragon cards is beyond me, they showed time and time again they have no intention of ever making good cards for these classes. Dragon is the Timmy class for memes, Blood is the budget aggro class til people can build a real deck for a real class.
>>170400223
STORM HAVEN T1 NOW BOYS
>>170399498
Yes now forestcucks will think twice before evolving their ancient elves against me.
>>170400223
Time to dust my Jeanne and craft a different Jeanne
>>170400185
Snowman/conjuring force rune
Conjuring dirt rune
Conjuring ptp rune
Dragonbond/Magisa Reina Simalcrum Conj Force
Flame&Glass DShift
Dirt Rune
Flame&Glass guardian wall dirt rune
Ambush royal
Ambush Royal feat. Flame&Glass
Cursed general combo royal
Castle Arthur's Resolve Royal
Otomemes tempo royal
Saha Ramp dragon
Ramped pendant storm dragon
Overflow board flood disco draw dragon
Polyphonic Ramp
Pheonix roost Ramp
Fluted spire disco flood
JO dragon
JO Deathmist ramp dragon
Discard/JO dragon
Discard dragon
OTK Discard dragon
Ramped pendant ward flame&Glass dragon
Ramped grea-hydra boost dragon
Midrange boost dragon feat. Zirnitra
Cannot be attacked boost dragon
Megalorca Simalacrum Seacraft boost Dragon
Tyrant Lord Atomemes
Midrange Atomemes
Burial banquet Atomemes
Last word shadowcraft
Phantom Dragon Mid range
Non-Roach combo forest
Tempo Rose queen Forest
Festival control forest
Titania's tempo forest
Titania-Reina Simulacrum tempo forest
Soul Dealer vengeancecraft
Soul Dealer Draincraft
Dark General, Azazel, laura-servant Control Blood
Laura Neutralcraft blood
Moriana Control Blood
Eido-Skullfam Count havencraft
Laelia defense Haven
Spell immune stat boost Haven
Reina-Simalacrum Neutralcraft
Well-spear boost Neutralcraft
>>170400223
hey wait hold up
its gives +2 to enemy followers as well?
>>170400223
>blackened Jeanne
I can see it. Unica into Healing Angel into Calm Medic into Radiance Angel into DaJe.
Get aggro'd, aggroshitters.
>>170399498
>people who don't play shadow overreacting to this card
necromancy isn't infinite and you probably have other things you want to use it on, it's not "retarded cheap removal"
>inb4 minthe
she won't stick 99/100 times so it's a 6pp combo to kill one follower, though I know how you guys love shitposting about overpowered 6pp combos in shadow
>>170400185
Don't ask me that, anon. I have no clue.
probably something like this?
>no T1 deck allowed
>must include copies of "meme cards"
>>170400348
Yes.
>>170400223
>reading
>>170400348
Yep. :))
>>170400268
Thanks Canadabro
>>170400073
I'm not going to participate because I would rather play in the Excelsior tournament but you are doing this on really short notice.
For the next time, how about posting the strawpoll on monday and let people vote until friday or something like that? Thanks for doing this anyway.
>>170400223
Jeanne is cute!
>>170400223
>more aoeshit for Haven
Fuck off Cygames Lion Spirit is already a fucking instant include in all haven decks and now this shit.
>>170400348
And deals damage to your own as well. Watch no one run it after all this hype. Not a single storm follower other than tigers, big eagles and Garuda survive the fucking AoE. You were hoping to buff those Mainyu/small eagles/Reno/Dog? Too bad.
>>170400223
The 2dmg ripping your board is gonna hurt rip 2/1 birbs. You also have to wait to t8 if you want to love's gospel the damage off. Guess it'll be a nice closer though
>>170400327
Shouldn't
>>170400348
Yep
>>170399857
Thanks Forte-mama
>>170400301
>4 shadows by turn 4
nothing will stop me from cheesing
>>170400223
its still shit tho
>>170400223
So you are kinda screwed if opponent plays 3+ health followers?
concede please
65831
>b-blood needs more removal
What does cygames mean by this?
>>170400495
>When haven has more and better follower aoe than dragon
>>170400546
>When you can't suicide your spartoi because they only got tokens
JUST
>>170400223
BLACKED
>>170400223
Synergy with aegis confirmed
powercreepverse
>>170400625
>3 dmg
>6pp
>"removal"
It's a tempo punishment is all while bricking the shitfuck out of your hand.
>>170400702
We warned you bro.
>>170400625
that's bretty good for a bronze tho
it looks like it should be for shadow
YAMEROOOO
>>170400583
It's a meme, no defensive deck will ever run a clear that bricks if the enemy has 3+ def followers. There's only so much redundancy in AoE the deck needs, Lion already does this well enough.
It's a storm card, and even then it doesn't allow you to burst with small eagles, because it kills them off. The card is very balanced, but people will still blow it out of proportion.
>>170400625
Wait
Only 3 damage?
Wasn't it 4?
Sheet that's even worse
Like compare this with valhallen general
SO much worse
>add even more aoe and removal in shadowverse
>people are surprise that otk/stormshit decks are on the rise
>Need Forest and Blood wins for the sleeves
>Have no cards for either so try my best and go for unranked after massive shitter ranked loss streak
>Run into this faggot
And as usual I can't do anything about
>>170400762
>dragon cucks will shitpost this until it comes out and they realize it's good
>>170400750
>it looks like it should be for shadow
stealing peoples life force is a vampire thing though
>>170400762
>a card like this in a game where followers never stick
what did cygames mean by this?
in another note, I'm excited to see what kind of flashy shit they did for the summon animation on the new legos, and this time around we have double the legos to look forward to
>>170400762
Don't want a flute closer or something?
concede pls
86669
>>170400762
>more storms card
>>170400858
Not like I enjoyed Otohime into Sage back in the day, famalam
>>170400762
>gain 1 for each other follower in play
>assuming that I would actually have followers in play before hitting 10 mana
I hope they change this a bit I like this card
>>170400623
>5 minutes later
>no concede
>>170400762
I mean
With 3 followers that's 4/5
That's not bad mean moon bunny only has 3 and that works well
Needs some testing, but I can't see myself using this over forte
>>170400884
Oh, I see. It looked like a zombie at first glance.
H-HEAR
>>170400762
I wonder if storm dragon decks could actually benefit from running all 3 of Forte, Eyfa and Aina.
>>170400762
It's a decent card for Storm
The problem is that 1. The base attack is too low, 2. The cost is too high to play it alongside other Storm cards
Which mean it'll only be good if you use cards to reduce its cost
Which means it has Storm but it's a fucking slow piece of shit
>>170400762
That card is shit though. Might as well just stick with Forte.
>>170400905
She gets stats from enemy followers too, they'll stick if you want them to:^)
>>170400998
Kinda like storm ramp in the early weeks of rob, face any ward and they just lose.
>>170401074
It's not like storm dragon is having a saying in that matter
>>170400979
>>170400623
thanks dragon bro
>tfw brick
>>170400975
im pretty sure it counts all followers on the field, not just yours
>>170400762
At 6, is this ever worth running over Forte?
>>170401025
It's unplayable. Control wants to keep the board clear, so it will never be big, and can't be used as a finisher in control mirror. Aggro wants to not run a fucking conditional face damage that can brick your hand and pollute your Emissary pulls.
It's an arena card.
>can't dump fairies vs non aggro sword since the very start of this game
>sword enjoys an advantage over forest in general
>now a very bad idea to do it against dragon too
>>170400135
>no unlimited pp
Infinite scaling or like infinite from turn 1?
>>170401035
>subject to change
hope they fix it though
74284 0/20 :^) just started this game pls help
>>170400998
>mfw I realise Aina is mentioned in Eyfa's evo descroption
>>170401242
both would be fun, but scaling would be more balanced.
>>170400950
What's wrong with Storm?
I hate bloodcraft
I'm I an asshole for wanting to impregnate Luna and not take responsiblity?
>>170401361
Why?
Is there a good ramp Dragon list that requires less than 12 legendaries?
>>170401165
>counts all followers on the field, not just yours
oh shit thanks for correcting me
Alright, i'll repost the poll and ask for suggestions a few more times tomorrow and then create the challonge on thursday/friday.
>>170400487
Is this really still short notice? Oh well, i'll keep this in mind for next time.
>>170400237
noted
>Start first five games in a row
>Lose all five of those games
>Next game start second
>Win
When are they going to fix this.
>>170401359
See people complaining about albert. And roach before the gobu nerf.
>>170401359
>latham
>>170401361
>their unga actually runs out of steam and gets cucked by on curve wards/heals
>their control can be stomped by other stuff consistently
They seem very balanced to me. Sure, unga bats will kill you on T5 if they get godly draws and you brick but at least it's fast and almost every t1-2 deck can do that with the right conditions.
So I keep hearing mid range aggro sword is the hottest meme right now. Can anyone post a deck? I've been away from the game for a few of weeks.
>>170400762
>Turn 6
>Facing sword
>They play otomemes
>Play Aina and evolve her
>8 damage to face
This might be worth teching 1 or 2 as a counter to specific decks. It might be a decent counter to a mid-game Daria too.
>>170401594
>8 damage to face
>Then you lose the game because you let the opponent have 5 followers on board
Is there a site I can use to check RoB cards/artworks?
>>170401567
Go game ai for decklist
>>170401417
Aggro blood specifically, feels like more of a coin toss than the other aggro decks since you kill yourself in the process.
>first 5-0 is with Haven
5 less wins for rewards, thank you T2.
>>170400762
I assume this would be like a "meh" card for sword, but dragon?
This doesnt even fit in with anything in their class.
have you guys seen this yet?
it was posted yesterday
pretty good stuff
https://my.mixtape.moe/afmgds.webm
>Turn 8
>*drop Seraph*
What are you gonna do now, Aegisfags???
>>170396751
man why does this bunny looks so sexy?
>>170401512
>not playing male leaders exclusively
>not playing as a manly archer, dragon bro, spooky skeleton, gandalf, dracula or a bird person on a video game as your avatar
Way cooler than generic anime waifubait.
>>170401835
>Turn 9
>Odin
?
>>170401816
The original clip was posted on /svg/ like a week ago maybe.
>>170401567
enjoy
watch out for the "chemo" crew tho
>>170401835
Sleipnir, we ride to zero battorufield
>>170401901
I love how you didn't mention mouth breather.
>>170401835
/hsg/ here, whats turn 8?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12485835 Poll time
>>170399061
all the better to topdeck burn, my dear
A simple solution to shit classes. The game has 7 classes right? How about they make it 6 instead. We all know Blood is just an after thought joke of a class with a none functioning card pool and a self defeating mechanic. Why not give the like 4 good cards it has to Dragon, so we can have 1 solid class, instead 2 separate classes that are half memes half shit?
>>170396751
What's the decklist that runs this dude?
I've seen in while playing in unranked and it seems pretty fun.
Also post more bunnies
>>170402062
Don't kid yourself Rowen, if any class is going to be deleted it's yours.
>>170402009
I voted Garuda because I and still angry about DE
Maybe in a few years I will get over it and vote Albert instead.
>>170402009
Where is "The guy in charge of making Dragon cards"?
>>170400762
>gain +2/+0
Fixed
>>170401670
>Hitting anything other than face
>face Dragon
kek
>>170401427
Post legos+golds dipshit because otherwise the answer is yes, fucking anything because you ramp up and keep nutting till they ahegao from running out of removal.
>>170401985
It's a birth defect, asshole.He really does look dumb, I don't know why they even chose him but at least he's somewhat manly.
>>170402062
>Implying we get rid of Vampy-chan
Go
Kill
Yourself
>>170402062
>dragon can't give blood cards because dragon relies on neutrals
Tell me why dragon shouldn't be deleted.
>dragon legendary revealed
>it's discard dragon
>fanfare: discard all the cards from your hand then draw X cards and heal X defense to your leader, X equals to the number of cards discard
>it's 9pp with shit stats
You know it's gonna happen soon dragonbois
>>170402062
>Dude what if we gave cards to Dragon that let them kill themselves
>And with Ramp they can kill themselves even faster than Blood can!
Fucking brilliant man
>>170402062
wait for the legos
ancient elf and roach carried a dead class into tier 1
you guys just need one decent card and you are set
>>170402062
No, just print better cards and redo blood's mechanic. Keep vengeance on the cards that have it but take away the vengeance counter on the main screen and replace it with the new mechanic.
>>170402307
stop posting this every thread, it's not funny
>>170402206
I'll add it to the next poll.
>>170402196
I missed when Garuda was OP. Storm haven is still viable though.
>>170402431
You're not funny
>>170400762
Finally the card dragon deserves
5 enemy followers
2 friendly
8 attack first time
urd it and evolve
11 attack second time
combines to...19 damage!
Now you can kys of how much of a failure that deck is and that you're 1 off
>>170402431
Posting what? this is the first time i posted this
>>170402383
Vengeance just needs to be worth a damn desu
Very few cards have effects that actually do much during vengeance
A lot of them are just +1/+1 that doesn't mean squat when you're dead next turn
>>170402540
What if you have JO tough
>>170402540
>urd
I bet you Urd a Seabrand Dragon too, you madman.
>>170401726
>>170401967
Damn I don't have the 3 Tsubakis to make this work and I don't want to have to use up my vials this close to an expac. Guess I'll hold off on joining the mid sword meme.
>>170402540
>19 dmg
Nerf dragon
>>170402540
>fanfare
>urd
>11 damage
not on my watch kid ;^)
>>170402643
Oh it's fanfare
That makes it worse lmao
>>170402687
If it's just the Tsubakis you're missing you can probably just swap something else with a similar PP cost in.
>>170402141pls
>>170402506
you are not funny
you are a bunny
with a tight cunny
how is my rap attempt
>>170399061
Spellboost decks can't afford the tempo loss and do not need the card draw.
Dirt is probably your best bet. It's a hell of a lot better than Teachings even if it isn't a sigil.
>>170402284
Stop shitposting, autist.
>>170402141
He can be used in a super stally Seraph, Eidolon memes or bunny.dek. They're all awful though I did have him in my deck when I climbed from B to AA on and off. He's decent against some decks when you go first and don't draw plea but too slow to solely rely on him. USE AT YOUR OWN PERIL.
>>170402632
That's the point though. Vengeance is straight copied from MTG and it sucked there too. But the problem is either way it's going to be unsatisfying. If it's too weak it's pointless, if it's too strong it makes it too hard to play around vengeance effects since it triggers just from playing the game normally. If every card was as tedious to play around as revelation blood would be more powerful but it would also just be a pain in the ass.
>>170402687
run dod
the trick with this deck is to not add any commanders so you always have albert on turn 5
tsubaki is just there because she is a non commander lego and she can deal 4 damage after removing a ward, dod is just as good
>>170402806
a for effort, anon-kun!
>>170402540
fanfare doesnt count when its been urd'ed. If im retarded try it out with other things that has fanfare
>>170402838
Stop shitposting and fuck off back to your subreddit, newfag.
>>170402904
You're not, Urd doesn't give fanfare, so it doesn't work on Seabrand Dragon and it downgrades your enhanced Eyfa.
>>170402878
>>170402787
Would may Call of Cocystus work as a pseudo Tsubaki replacement?
>>170401221
>Ramp Dragon is Control
>Face Dragon is Aggro
t. D0
>>170402793
he isn't very good, just used in a meme ptp stall deck with the new rob lego
it kind of sucks because you can't really use themis and your deck as a whole is just one big meme
>>170403038
I'd go 2x DoD 1x CoC if you wanted to. I like CoC coz it's almost an alternative win condition, but it's greedy and generally DoD is better.
>>170403038
sure but it's a face deck more so then a midrange deck
dod gives you a free evo point worth of damage on top of removal
try out cocystus and see if you like it
>>170403196
The lists that I saw posted and on Game Ai both already run 2 DoD along with 3 Tsubaki. So I can do 3x DoD but I'm still left with 2 slots that I duno what to fill with.
>>170401724
http://rageofbahamut.wikia.com/wiki/Rage_of_bahamut_Wiki
Create a card that would make medusa less shit
Like Selwyn's Command or Pact with the Nethergod
>>170403505
One more of the 2drop that's 2x, last card just have mentor teaching
Free packs?
I heard there's a thicc fairy? Is this true? I am a thick inspector
>>170403669
I'd rather not
Blood has too much removal as is
>>170403669
it already exists
>>170403669
Sounds to me like you just wanna powercreep her.
>>170403806
Enhanced version is too expensive
>>170403794
>>170403794
Definitely a thicc one.
>Heavenly Aegis, the untouchable armor of a god. Smite your foes and laugh when they try to smite you back!
Intern-kun, you're so adorable
>>170403524
That wiki doesn't seem to have everything, that's why I asked. I guess I have no better option though.
>>170403968
Look in the OP
>>170403968
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/
This should be in the OP
Could I get some help with a snow list? I don't main rune so the cantrip ratio stuff is lost on me.
Here's my silvers, golds and legos and I gotta pull 8 cards so it fits.
Uriel's in there as a pseudo-force because I only have 1
Grabass to t-4
Levi and rune to get the board back in range
2 Rune blade, 2 goblinmounts to stick on the board and bump up against their board throughout the game
Get the conj force out
Keep flooding with summons, cantrips, and a dingdong while redrawing my hand
Close out with board+blade mages, anne or secrets of erasmus. Thinking of throwing my 1 dragonbond mage in there since I have fate's and fiery
>>170403669
You can baphomet medusa-axe for a t6 evo removal and any point past t6 she's basically a removal+body
>>170403942
I still find it hard to believe Bane kills it. That description is way off.
>>170403918
>Just pass T4 lmao
What were they thinking?
>>170403918
>>170403934
Thicc? more like fat
>>170404081
It doesn't. That bogus magazine spread that meme.
>>170398997
No, Aegis is countered by so many lategames since it cannot achieve ward.
This means you still die to Levin, you still die to roach comboes, you still die to Dshift, and you cant counter seraph and put down aegis at the same time, so seraph will most likely win over it too.
Satan too if the player got some wards to cover
The only ones that are truly fucked here are perhaps grind decks like Neph and Dirt, but we will see how it works out in practice first.
>>170404140
>not liking fat fairies
>>170404104
Like harvest festival, play it behind your ancient elf to sacrifice the immediate tempo gain for momentum going forward. You can lionel fencer t5 while taking a hit then go gangbusters with elf of the gemstones
>>170399061
Dirt might use it, its a toss-up between light and library for dshift
>>170404165
Has it been confirmed whether it can be bounced by Pixie Mischief, Homecoming and such?
>>170403942
will we even get to turn 9 in the coming meta
the early/mid game shit they're printing this time is ridiculous
>>170404081
Aegis cannot be removed from the board by any means. The only counter is to reduce its attack. Stop falling for rumors, and use your head for a second. a 9 mana beat stick is already mediocre, a 9 mana beat stick that dies to fucking Fangblade is beyond worthless.
>>170404140
>>170404054
>>170404047
Ahhh, thanks. The OP is such a clusterfuck that I never realized that thing was there.
>>170399498
Very good in T2
>>170404291
Stop shitposting, autismo.
1 Flame Destroyer in Daria y/n?
>>170404291
It cannot be affected by static ability like Sun Guardian, so I assume those won't work.
Just finish them off before turn 9.
need a concede
28194
thanks
>>170399061
More like Pot of Greed.
>>170404337
Will they ever update the fairy art? The current one feels off when next to the rest of the cards.
>>170404406
y/y
>>170404424
Stop replying to yourself m8 Its really sad.
>>170403909
dont need the enhance
>>170404438
are these for daily quests that let you complete them with private games
>>170404309
I was under that impression but earlier in that thread, someone said it did so now I'm confused.
>>170399539
>>170399797
Then there's the magazine >>170404165 referenced so it seems a lot of people are on and off about it. The reason I'm doubting is because I've encountered a lot of weird, unintuitive resolution effect scenarios like when mini-devil doesn't proc her ability if the evolution effect kills her when a creature must evolve in order to use that ability, meaning devil should've done her thing. The wording should have been "After another follower evolves" rather than "Whenever a follower evolves", basically.
>>170404292
Seraph is already deadly slow and this doesn't even guarantee face damage next turn let alone winning.
>still no actual English reveal yet
We got Axe for RoB. I wonder what we will be getting before gook and nip.
How do I board clear as Dragon?
>>170404708
Stop shitposting.
>>170399061
Dirt runes lists will probably drop fate's hand for this. With the new rune legendary, Control Rune might be playable and will be centered around this card, and Library fits perfectly too. Paying 2 mana to draw 2 answers is great.
>Thinking anything other than storm will be tier 1 in stormverse
LMAOing @ your lives family.
Whether it's aggro or combo, it doesn't matter, it depend heavily on storm, and will be tier 1.
Tier 1 decks in the history of Shadowverse:-
Standard: Aggro Shadow (Phantom howl combo), PtP (roach), storm dragon (Urd combo)
DE:-
Tempo Forest (roach), midrange Sword (half the card pool)
RoB;-
Dorothy tempovich (Blade Mage), OTK Elf (roach), """midrange"""" Sword (half the card pool)
>>170404686
it's for the win 1 private match daily
>>170404781
Salamander
>>170404438
>tfw missed bellringer sleeves and emblem
>>170404778
Oh, good question. Who got to do the reveal last time ?
>>170404337
>>170403934
I..I wanna main Forest!
>>170404908
Intern-kun. Complete with a nice pun.
>>170404781
bahamut
>>170404835
>Roaches have always been tier1
Hmm, maybe it's just me, but I think I'm starting to see a trend here.
>>170404848
I hope I get that one soon, sounds easy
>>170405049
Kanna stop eating everything!
>>170404781
Breath of the salamander and dragon wings/angelic barrage is your go-to. If you need a heavy hitter, conflagration turns heads.
You get good value from blazing breath, humpty, dragon warrior, any damage effect+sieg, grea, saha, dragonsong flute
If you commit, you can ramp pendants then use damage or discard fanfares to basically conflagration the board every turn
>>170405117
What would happen if Kanna ate Ultimate Carrot?
May I have a concede for the usual quest?
29767.
On an unrelated note, any forest deck that doesn't include soccermom? I have 3 Tias and 3 memewolves. Anything else I can craft. Anything but 3 leggos.
>>170405214
No. She's that good.
Roaches?
What class is he playing?
Don't open this
>>170405181
Kanna's stomach is pretty much a black hole, so it would get banished
>>170405214
need 3 soccermoms, her and roach are the only good cards forest has
So is the new 4 drop going to finally make Earth Rite a viable deck?
>>170400223
It's shit. She kills your Holy Falcons, she boosts any enemies that survive, making it harder to evolve her and trade, and she doesn't give at least Rush to just summoned Tigers like Valhallan at least does, it will just damage them to make it easier for your opponent to get rid of them.
One of those effects should've been one sided in a positive way for this card to be playable. There is no reason to drop Moon or General for this.
>>170405214
There has never been a single viable Forest deck without a play set of soccermoms and le balanced bug of storms, not one.
>>170405167
Salamander and Conflag are the 2 only board clears you should consider in your deck. I get it that you talk about all the possible board clears, but those cards can't be played. Bahamut is a board clear too, but it's too late to be considered as one unless you got the dream ramp.
>>170405338
daria
>>170405214
I play a bounce heavy forest deck because I have no soccermoms but it runs absolutely no wards so it loses to most aggro decks.
>>170405340
I-Its huge!
>>170405214
Thanks, canadian dragonbro.
>>170405280
>>170405360
Welp, fuck this gay earth. I'm sticking to T2 for the sleeves.
>>170405378
>ALL for both effects
Holy shit I never noticed this.
She could actually be worse than regular Jeanne.
>>170405338
CBlood
>>170405340
http://www.gamechosun.co.kr/webzine/article/view.php?no=139775
>>170400223
>people are literally thinking this card is goood
AHAHA OH WOW
LEMME BUFF ALL MY ENEMIES CARDS +2 AND THEN KILL ALL MY FALCONS AND NUMS
>tfw they are so scared of buffing dshift we wont get more 1-3 cost rune spells
meh
>>170405459
wingers wangers the temposhits.
>>170405545
All you need are 3 roaches to grind it out. 3 wolves and 3 tias is gravy dude.
>>170405378
Yep, she'll never see play. Defensive Haven can't afford a clear that bricks if the opponent has a single follower with more than 3 defense (they always will), and offensive Haven can't play a 6 mana card that will clear 75% of their followers.
>>170400223
All the people saying this is a storm card is wrong. It's clearly an Elana finisher.
>>170405643
NEW CARDS? Gimme my fix, I wanna know.
>>170405643
>Forest birb
>another sword legendary faggot
>overly priced spell
>>170405683
I want more spells that work with earth rite and vice versa.
>>170405643
what digusting language is that?
Hoot goes there?
>>170405763I'm a dummy, meant for >>170405643
TRANSLATE IT, ELUSIVE KOREAN SPEAKERS
>>170400223
>>170405881
what does it do?
>>170405643
>Sword legendary
>4 mana
>It's another bishonen
Here we fucking go again. Tier 0 Sword incoming.
>>170405643
Knight of the Roundtable Gawain
Legendary
Each time it attacks or is evolved reduce the cost of commander cards in your hand by 1
>TFW people say sword is not Cygames favorite
>>170405954
4 PP 3/3 Gain +2/+2 if you have 20 or more neutral cards in deck.
>>170405643
>a second albert
what the fuck
Sword Legend
4 pp 3/4
Clash: Reduce the cost of all commanders in your hand by 1.
Evolve: Reduce the cost of all commanders in your hand by 1.
Neutral Silver
4pp 3/3
Fanfare: If there are 20 or more neutral cards in your deck, gain +2/+2.
Rune Silver
7pp Spell
Give an allied follower +2/+2. Spellboost:Reduce the cost of this card by 1.
>>170405954
Neutral birb have more than 20 neutral cards gain 2/2
>>170406035
>>170406045
thanks
>>170405643
>>170405891
Got it boss.
Owl of Balance
Fanfare: If you your deck has 20 cards or more left, gain +2/+2
>>170405782
Elana doesn't have the board space for it, and has no problems closing games if they have a board. The card is bad, just like the original Jeannu. They needed to make one of the effects one sided in your favor for it to be playable.
>>170406001
Sorry guys, it also has enhance 6 give it +1/+1 and rush
>>170406043
Thanks Koreanbro
>>170406043
>3 cost albert and saber
>5 cost fortress
nice fucking class
>>170406043
>4pp albert
>>170406001
It's a control Sword card. Enhance Albert will always be 9, regardless of Albert's cost, and unga Sword doesn't run any other commanders. This will make Aurelia and Frontguard ridiculously OP though.
>>170406157
Reducing the base cost of an enhance card does nothing when using the enhance though
>>170406001
Holy shit. This can't be true, sword gets all the good cards and we dragonbros got a fucking egg
>>170406001
>>170406043
>super good sword legend is cute boy
>again
Do cute girls play sword the most or what?
>>170406035
Cool dragon gets a new 4 drop
>>170406224
3 with evolve dude
>>170406043
All commander deck, we spellboost now. Disgustingly good.
>>170406131
>>170406043
>What does Cygames mean by this?
>Go first snowmen
>Play insight against a B rank blood
>Waiting for connection...
>>170406043
>Reduce commander cost by 2, 3 if they don't removal it
>>170406262
Yes, I'm a cute girl and only started playing because of Albert.
>>170406250
its still a 3 PP 3/5 storm.
You telling me that aint value?
>>170406095
Oh I'm not saying it's that good either. But in storm haven it's going to wipe your birds, and the only other haven deck that cares about building a board is Elana or sun satan. And Elana is the more likely of the two to have followers that will survive the aoe due to the buffs from Elana. It's a fringe wincon though, and you'd only be running it if you're maxed out on healing cards.
here we go
>>170406043
You forgot sword legend has enhance 6 gain +1/+1 and rush
>>170406224
>4
Family, if you evolve and attack with it that's a 2 mana cheat. Albert will be 3. Turn 6 double Alberts lmao, fuck I'm done.
Keep in mind Enhance doesn't count discounted (heh) PP. So you will still pay 9PP for Albert.
Need concede pls. 37604
>tfw you can't be bothered undubbing straight away when a new expansion hits so you end up learning a few english lines and memeing with the dubfriends
>>170406043
>How do we nerf Maid-Albert
Buff Commanders!
>>170406001
>>170406043
SURE LET'S GIVE SWORD YET ANOTHER BROKEN LEGO.
IN FACT IT'LL BE BY FAR THE BEST ONE IN THE SET.
>>170406131
OF COURSE, I KNEW IT WAS MISSING SOMETHING
>>170405881
>Powercreeped leviathan without a drawback
>Dragon is even more neutralcraft now
H-Hear!
>>170406321
I honestly wouldn't put it past some people to just pick a class because they like the look of a card. Albert was in one of the ads, he's a super good looking guy, any low info player could google him and see people put him in decks and just go sword because of it.
>>170406425
MAID LEADER NERFED AAAAA
>>170405881
>tfw neutralcraft is not a meme anymore
How to make a class good 101:-
Storm+Mana cheat.
Enjoy Shadowverse.
Enhance overrides cost reduction so no albert shenanigans with the new lego thank god.
>>170406131
Ohh i was afraid that was the only abilities, it is a sword legendary after all
>>170406362
see
>>170406231
>It's a control Sword card. Enhance Albert will always be 9, regardless of Albert's cost, and unga Sword doesn't run any other commanders. This will make Aurelia and Frontguard ridiculously OP though.
>>170406526
You mean like Daria.dek ?
>>170405643
someone wanna explain to me why the card leaks are in fucking korean? i thought it was a jp game? i cant put my weeb skills to use like this
>>170406386
Ty very much vampy!
>>170406131
It didn't even need this! It was already really good before with this its just fucking crazy. You don't even need the evolve to get the clash off, another rush effect which I still think people undervalue and is a crazy good keyword. I'm in, man. I am now the cute girl.
>>170406451
>
but I dont want it to become a neutral craft class
>>170406580
I doesn't say it's a commander
Hey senpaitachi what if you could throw down 3 Aurelia saber in one turn?
Wouldnt that sound fun and interactive?
>>170406637
Korea bought the game ;^)
>>170405782
If Elana has that big of a board for this to be relevant, they are better off just spamming heals. Elana's win con is basicaly setting up a board anyways.
One of her effects should've been one sided. I don't know what they were thinking when they made this. Original Jeanne would probably only be a significantly strong card if she was 6pp-7pp anyways. I don't understand why they thought making an aggressive Jeanne with a huge downside for 6pp would make it a good card.
leddit says that on evolve it doesn't reduce cost;
Evolve: gain Clash: reduce cost of commander cards in hand by 1
or something to that effect
Not that I'm happy about 4 cost Alberts though
>>170406637
They're trying hard to get the korean market.
>>170406637
Turns out Google is pretty decent in figuring out gook language.
Late to the party, but is that new Shadow legendary even going to ever see play?
>>170406637
Koreans are kinda sorta the Canadians to Japan's U.S.A.
Sometimes.
>>170406001
>4pp 5/6
should be 6/5, this shit is gonna be so fucking hard to kill
3 pp aurelia HAHAHHAHA
Bye bye Aggro fucker
>>170406001
>tfw you held off on crafting Alberts and other sword cards because you wanted to see if the deck got toned down next expansion but its actually only getting stronger.
>evolve owl
>4pp 7/7
>>170406231
He's an officer faggot
>>170406791
The better Bloody Mary (still shit), or the Otohime on roids? Either way, both are shit. Combos that don't do 10+ damage are unplayable in this game, and setting up board in removalverse? lmao. Just mana cheat and go face with storms using Sword or Rune, this game is dead.
>>170406001
Its even stat efficient when evolving and just thrown down
>>170406853
What are you talking about, Amelia and other 3/4s become 5/6s as well. Nothing special.
>>170406043
>still no blood leaks
heh, hoo boy im starting to feel pretty ree'd tbqh with you my dude
>>170406908
FOUR
O
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MANA
SEVEN
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V
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N
>>170406001
Card is shit
>>170406043
>Penguin wiz survives a turn in a conjuring deck
>15+ dmg next turn
Oh YISSSSSSSSS
>>170406001
Well, floral fencer did her best. She can rest easy and go back to gardening.
>>170406853
Does it really matter, there's no reasonable way to clear him without hard removal.
On t4 not using removal lets the commanders in hand get cost-reduced by 3
>>170406931
The former. I wanted more broken Last Sword stuff, not that. It doesn't help aggro control or midrange.
>play it for 4
>its on curve 3/4 baseline stats
>play it for enhanced 6
>its an on curve 4/5 with good keyword
You don't even need fucking commanders with this dude, he's just super solid.
>>170406908
>he didn't even factor in the 3 Valhalla spear amulet for 10/10
>>170406001
Sword supposed to be a waifucraft WTF is this gay bishounen shit REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>play ranked
>face counter
>brick
getting sick of this meme
Every single Sword lego is ridiculously good. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. OF. THEM.
>meanwhile shadow got a desert rider
>Put 3 Valkyrie Spear
>Summon Hoot Hoot of Neutral
>Evolve Dragon Shota to give it Storm
>>170406001
>2 mana Amelia
>3 mana Senor Alberto
>3 mana Seiba
>4 mana Otomeme
>4 mana Sage Commander
>5 mana Frontguard
>6 mana Alex
>7 mana Leonidas
WAKE ME UP
>>170404930
elves best girls
>>170407160
Sup.
>>170406531
>3/5 Storm for 3pp
>No Albert shenanigans
Keep telling yourself that. Remember that they also got a stupid Silver that makes commader evolves free.
I cant wait for my new meme deck list
2PP 3/3 Cursed General
Do crystals ever go on sale?
>>170407208
at this point i just wanna see the /svg/ meltdown when the dragon legendaries are revealed
>>170407035
>tfw she'll be stuck making floral arrangements for her own grave with rose gardener
>tfw ywn help them garden and cheer them up by sowing seeds into their fertile plots
why even live?
>>170407368
Some of you are alright, don't go to Cygames HQ tomorrow.
>>170406719
Google Translate says this:
>this card has a special ability to reduce the cost of the Commander's card in the player's hand by 1 each time it is attacked or evolved.
>>170407208
Sword is the pet class.
>>170407289
Realized I haven't seen a Forest since the nerfs. Is it that dead?
>yfw there is still 1 sword legendary left to be revealed
>>170407001
He has an evolve effect though.
>>170407002
Blood leaks? Are you talking about the blood leaking from your anus?
>>170400762
So in any average scenario where you're not massively behind on board, you're looking at 3 or maybe even 4 total attack from the fanfare. So basically a worse imp lancer or slightly better one
Yep it's a dragon gold alright.
This fucking thing should have had either +1/+1, 5 PP, or ward. Just add one of those effects to the card and it could actually be useful. When will Cygames stop being massive faggots and actually design dragon cards as strong as other crafts?
>Dragon Egg
>1PP Amulet
>Countdown: 2
>Last Words: Gain an empty play point orb and draw a card.
HOW FUCKING HARD WAS IT TO PRINT SOMETHING LIKE THIS INSTEAD OF THE SCHLOCK WE GOT?
>>170407620I know. My uncle works for Cygames, they don't want you to notice that Merlin only gets +1/+1.
>>170407550
>Mary and Queen as good as Tsubaki
>>170407513
>>170406719
Koreebu here
>>170406001
>>170406131
This guy has the closest translation
Slowly but surely, the sword lists will look like pic related.
What's a good Al'miraj list I should try?
Thanks for the (you)s in advance
>>170407550
matriarch is dog shit
whelp, it's done, now we go into hell.
>>170406713
I said, I agree that they're better off spamming heals. My point was that this Jeanne is basically an extra card that can be run when you're already running 3 of all your healing cards, and still want another buff. Again, I don't know if this will be good, but this is the only situation I could see it being advantageous.
Why does Cygames love Sword so much?
>>170407763
>Implying Sword will play a single card that doesn't have storm, rush, or broken mana cheat/removal on an on curve body
>>170407367
fuck you
>>170407809
Congratz and good luck!
>>170407786
its ok for midrange mary lists that can benefit from the face damage.
>>170407668
ramp x1
sword get 3-4 on board
you evolve this turn 4, 6/7 storm on turn 4
W E W
they're probably just scared that you run this into sword's face turn 4 and evolve Forte turn 6 = gg sword
because we all know sword is the pet class
GUYS
According to the article, the cost decrease effect only happens when it's either evolved or played with Enhance.
You can relax now
>tfw Sword main
>>170407912
>4PP 5/5 or 7/7
Balance Owl is getting Neutral craft to tier 0.
>>170407828
>Cygames couldn't even keep SV afloat for a year.
>>170407935
Sure, because there's no way you're going to evo a 4-drop just for the evo effect right?
>>170407974
dumb dykeposter
>>170407935
>Implying you wont evolve it turn 4
>Implying an officer 6 drop 4/5 with the effect and rush is bad
>Implying 3 drop albert is fine
Boy I'm relaxed as can be watching this shit go down
>>170407974
>tfw switched to csword back in A0 because need a decent 50/50 matchup deck
>>170407550
>Forte anywhere near as vital for Dragon and AE is for Forest
Uh....
>>170407783
Storm haven
>>170408036
so it's a legendary with normal stats that only works when you have a commander at hand
I don't see the issue, he can't mana cheat multiple times
>>170407935
Nothing in the article makes me think that is the case. In fact, reading it just makes it seem like the translation posted here is very accurate.
>>170407786
>matriarch is dog shit
no she isn't
>>170407935
Yeah, because """wasting"""" an evolve for a 5/6 follower that mana cheats your bombs is such a fucking tempo/value lost.
It's Daria for Sword, and Sword's follower quality is infinitely better than any other class'.
Guys. GUYS.3PP Luminous Mage
Now we see who wins the board. Sword or Rune.
>>170407912
>its ok for midrange mary lists that can benefit from the face damage.
except its not, alucard is still better
>>170407783
I just use her as the token bunny.
>>170407551
They don't have any good decks left and sword has the hip new list
Take a wild fucking guess what he played next
>>170408160
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
>>170408247
>3pp 4/5 Rush + 2/1 + 2pp left for anything you want
FUCKING CYGAMES
>>170407367
They did during the new year around the time RoB was released.
Man, I feel so sorry for you suckers that haven't made it to masters, and will have to live through the upcoming Sword meta.
Why aren't there any Blood card leak? Is it because it may become the next cancer so Cygames try to leak them as late as possible?I hope.
>>170408309
Satan?
>>170408160
only useful against bunga decks that you have no problem beating anyways
shes useless against literally everything else
>>170406908
You have 1-2 valk spears for another +2 dude.
>>170407367
during, christmas and new years. They only do it for like 300 crystals at a time. They'll probably do it again a few times, like the aniversary or some shit.
you guys can talk shit about hearthstone all you want but at least its run was longer than 9 months
great job cygames, sword DESPERATELY needed a way to fucking spellboost followers
>>170408437
>mfw bouncing between 500 and 1000 points needed to reach Masters trial for like 30 games.
>>170408443
I'll bet real money that Blood won't get a single meta defining card, at the very least not tier 1. I'll bet even more money that aggro Blood will remain the best deck for the class, and the list will be almost the exact same shit it has been since DE, just with 1 or 2 different cards.
>>170408347
>Luminous MageAND another Gawain
We need to go DEEPER
>>170408309
khavy
>>170407276
>Almost everybody has ramp now
>And it's all better than Dragon's
>>170408483
Lurching necroassassin then killed my last dragon with morde. It was fucking disgusting. Nep is such utter faggotry.
>>170408518
Their formula for tier 1 is pretty transparent at this point. Just give the shit you're obviously pushing storm and mana cheat.
>>170408437
Jokes on you I am a Sword main.
>Another Daria-style deck
>Now in Swordcraft
If the game is going to eventually follow this retarded bullshit playstyle for every craft, can we just do it for all the crafts at once?
Let everybody have equal playrates and winrates?
EVERYONE STOP FUCKING PANICKING
EVERY fucking legendary leak we have a meltdown only to find that the other cards will counter or the card isn't good as we thought.
Fucking THINK for once
Friendsday Wednesday and I need rupees
19151
1/20
Please help!
>>170408347
You'd want to evolve the knight seeing as it gives your followers +1/+0
>>170408443
Watch it be another meme tier vengeance card
>>170408841
>EVERY fucking legendary leak we have a meltdown only to find that the other cards will counter or the card isn't good as we thought.
yeah, daria was such a dud.
>>170408764
Mirror matches are the least fun experience you could have these games. You think the brain dead overpowered auto pilot class of the format won't be played by 30%+ of the playerbase? Enjoy rolling dice and flipping coins on who curves into Gawain and Albert better.
>>170408280
i thought alucard was better until midsword started showing up every other game and now i think that matriarch edges him out slightly as a one of.
my list is also more on the control side than the unga side.
>>170407595
How big is this expansion going to be? I guess every class is getting two legendaries so cygames can get more money.
>>170408913
Did you read what he posted? His point was that the random opinions taken in this thread are mostly retarded and shouldn't be taken seriously, regardless of if the card is claimed to be good or bad.
>>170408841
>think for once
Where do you think you are.
Swordverse? More like commanderverse.
>Luminous Mage for free EP for everyone
>Albert and sader
>front guard starts cucking on turn 5
>all thanks to Gawain
Might as well start calling him Gavan
>>170408913
yeah and remember how days ago we thought aegis was the fucking end of the world?
WHEN
IS
THE
NEW
EXPANSION
RELEASED
WHEN
!!!!!!!!!!!
I
WANT
MY
TIER 0
SWORD
FORMAT
>>170406685
Just themis it bro :^)
>>170408793
I think you are over exaggerating It neither has the draw engine or the consistency of the spell boost mechanic and you will at most get -2pp reduction from it at turn 6 since it won't stay on the board for long.
NOW a fun workable combo would be something like cursed general(reduced)+assassin+another low cost minion etc to give your general shroud, hit face and hope it lives next turn so that you can hit face again.
>>170408841
I still think most legendary revealed are shit.
Eachtar and that sword might be the only one i actually would like to get so far.
The 9pp cost win con for haven in particular leave me scratching my head. I mean the only deck where it would work you might aswell seraph and win the exact same turn you could have played it. What's the point? At best it's only a failproof in case of odin.
>Sword still have one (1) unrevealed legend.
Nice game shadowbbs
GUYS EVERYONE CALM DOWN, THE TRANSLATIONS IN THIS THREAD ARE SHIT
the REAL effect is closer to something like this:
Officer
4 pp 3/4
Enhance (6): Gain +1/+1, rush, and "whenever this follower attacks, reduce the cost of all commanders in your hand by 1".
Evolve: Gain "Whenever this follower attacks, reduce the cost of all commanders in your hand by 1"
so he's only gonna be able to reduce the cost of the commanders in your hand by essentially 1 at most, so we're not gonna have 3 pp albert bullshit
>>170402284
>lantham mouthbreather
>>170409363
With jeno and him, floral is finally kill
We can just run all the 2pp commanders and drop all of them on turn 4, similar to what Tempo Rune does, when evolving Gawain. He's an officer, so stuff like Palace Fencer can even buff him.
>sword has ramp now
>haven gets a mordecai on steroids
>nep decks will probably get stronger
This will be the death of dragon. It's over dragonbros
>>170408841
There were only meltdowns over Aegis and this one. Nobody batted an eye at any of the others, and Aegis was 99% the Elana shitposter going into overdrive.
Given that people originally thought the new Sword leggo gave two spellboosts on evolve there was valid reason for panic on that one.
>>170409350
delete this
>>170409363
Can you explain where does this change come from? The translation seemed to be accurate
>>170400223
>instead of fixing jeanne theyre just going to powercreep her with herself
bravo
>>170409295
Rune only runs Daria and Insight as their draw. I don't even count Daria then because if she's in your hand then you've already got the card you'd be drawing to get.
They don't search out anything either.
Saying it's prone to not nutting or bricking isn't valid justification for making a card.
>>170409470
Maybe in some archetypes.
Floral is still better in a more tempo aggressive deck.
>>170400785
Valhallan General is a gold card, you little fucking retard
Fuck you and fuck your dumbass parents
I can't stand stupid people at all
>>170409524
Maybe they'll have JO support
>>170409213
DE and RoB where both released on the 29 of their month, but both of those 29 were on Thursday
So I'd say either the 29 or last Thursday of the month
>>170409629
It's not a powercreep at all
>>170409524
n-neither dragon lego has been revealed yet, there's still hope!
>>170409524
On the contrary dragon will be back stronger than ever and I predict there will be daria levels of whining and I told you so's when the expansion hits.
>>170409629
Dark Jeanne is just as bad.
>>170409625
The official source doesn't give the actual card text, it only sort of describes what the card does. But rest assured, the card can only spellboost if it's summoned with enhance or you evolve it, and the wording implies that it won't stack.
Thank you Bloodfriend and Swordfriends!
19151
4/20
>>170409819
>>170409759
She's 6pp, which instantly makes her significantly better.
>>170409640
w-whoa there! calm down lad
>>170409819
6pp is miles better. She ads another 6 face or clears the other board.
>>170409651
That Wind God dude is the new wincon for JO.
>dark Jeanne is bad
Unica
Healing Angel
That 4PP 3/3 that heals for 2
Radiance Angel
Only one of the followers die to Jeanne. You guys are overreacting.
>On tilt
>Rowen appears
Right on time
>>170409896
The difference between a bad 8pp card and a bad 6pp card is meaningless. I'd pick regular Jeanne in arena over dark.
>>170409896
except she also gives +2 to enemy followers and also damages your own, it would be good if you end the game right there but it could get crazy after your turn is over.
>>170409896
Yeah, better at never ever being considered as an option because you already have Garuda, Valhallan and Moon as aggressive 6 drops, and Lion Spirit as 5pp 2 damage AoE, and neither of those cards have huge downsides like Dark Jeanne.
>>170410039
Unica won't stay alive for more than 1 turn anyway
>>170410039
probably would be good in a Elena dick
Who is ready to craft and play /GawaixAlbert/ deck on day 1 of the new expansion?
Thank God I main Swordcraft and Daria, too bad for the noobs maining Shadow/Dragon/Blood. You're going to get fucking owned.
>>170410051
Except she's a good card. She's literally a 1pp extra Ancient Lion Spirit with better numbers and the ability to buff your turn 5 Radiance Angel.
>>170410053
That's irrelevant. Is Themis now bad because it damages your own?
>>170410085
>Garuda, Valhallan and Moon
None of those cards are useful in anything except Storm.
>>170409629
>buffs surviving enemy followers
>Kills anything of yours with 2 defence
It's pretty shit actually. It might have been decent if one of the two effects were one-sided.
>>170410039
Having a big board as Elana just means you won anyways
>>170409995
She also adds damage that can go to YOUR OWN face, and clears YOUR board. Conditional board clears are always shit, you play board clears to get back from a losing position, you can't afford to have your come back not work half the time, because they have a fuck follower or 2 with 3 or more health.
:V
>>170409192
>we
Speak for yourself. Aegis is strong, but it only works as an alternative to decks like sun satan that try to stall.
This new sword legendary is more overpowered rush shit that ensures sword never has to spend their evo points and can always smack you for 10 on turn 9 with Mr. balanced card. Not only that but it allows you to play other commanders like Frontguard a turn earlier so you can stall with your control decks even easier.
Sword never gets a bad legendary. It's hilarious how they even have a meme playstyle (ambush) yet Cygames wouldn't ever think about giving them a shitty legendary built around that. No, we couldn't do that to sword. Meanwhile every other craft in the game gets constant meme legendaries.
>>170410039
>My opponent did nothing for 4 turns
Not everyone plays Ramp Dragon you know.
>>170410215
>None of those cards are useful in anything except Storm.
And where do you intend on fucking playing this? Elana? Don't make me laugh. If you have a board big enough for this to make a significant impact, you are better off just spamming heals, always.
Guys I need a deck that beats every other deck.
>>170410414
bunga sword
>>170410414
Tempest of the Gods Sword.
>>170410039
>unica is a 2/2
>jeanne does 2 damage
?????????????????
>>170410414
Gawain Tempo Sword
What was his endgame?
>>170410513
>only one
>>170410383
Them trading only means Jeanne will kill them off with the fanfare.
Forte is level 100!
>>170410531
post yfw this becomes a thing
>>170410604
to be turned into a meme post on 4chan. looks like you lost.
>>170410254
>Godsteel Wings
What? Why? It's absolutely shit past turn 2.
>>170410414
Dirtrune
>>170410383
>dragon doing nothing
>drops 3 dragon eggs
Pssssh nothing personal kid
>heals for 6 and draw 3 cards
>>170410773
What did she mean by this?
Reminder that the current #1 master is a Blood main.
>>170410682
How is Face Dragon? I heard it started popping up on Master again.
>>170410709
becauseI netdecked
>there's people
>on this thread
>RIGHT NOW
>that main Shadow/Dragon/Blood decks
>instead of Sword/Rune decks
Everyone please thank them, because they give us free wins everyday after all.
They prefer to give us free wins and happiness, and their own expense by losing again and again.
They take the bullet with bad legendaries, so we in Sword get the best cards every expansion.
Thanks Dragon/Shadow/Blood, you're bros.
>>170410906
>guy who grinded the most plays the fastest deck
no fuckin way
>>170410043
>Slugging it out with snowbros against a haven
>He plays a 5/4 evo'd elana mainyu on t7 thinking he got me
>Magic missile his face then summon snow. Evo a snowman into his mainyu
>Start hitting his face
>He's waiting for response for a second
>Finish hitting him in the face
>Hit end turn
>Nothing happens
>90 seconds later, You lose!
>Look in replay, it was a jap yet again
Holy shit kikegames fix the fucking drophack already. I lose like 11 games a day to "mysteriously" losing connection right when I bend a nip over the barrel
>>170410224
Can. As in it can if you're making such poor decisions you shouldn't be allowed near card games.
Anybody got a meme cblood dicklist that uses moriana and bloodhungry matriarch?
>Implying Gawain can survive more than 1 turn
It just Sword version of Merlin. Fucking Anti-Swordfags being paranoid again.
>>170411042
G-glad I could help
>>170410414
Dark General, Azazel tech, laura-servant Control Blood
>>170411042
sluts
>the most recently revealed 8 cards were meant for magazine issue to showcase the good stuffs each classes gets
>forest now get to have a 2 1/1 and a 4/4 on turn 4
>Sword gets disgusting free EP with two bodies
>shadow gets a value board flood
>dragon
I admit. I'm desperately curious on what the fuck they wrote for the egg.
>>170411275
>merlin the card people play in dshift
>dshift the deck that people here complain about
>>170411375
>>forest now get to have a 2 1/1 and a 4/4 on turn 4
woah... incredible dude....
>>170411275
it doesn't have to. Clash means 1-2pp of reduction across however many commanders they have
why does forest have draw as shitty as it does?
>>170409635
Why are her arms so thin?
>>170411260
I would love to give you my Moriana control deck but I'm too lazy and it's not viable, maybe until ToG.
>>170411479
>2PP for 4/4 as long as you combo
Forest fans will defend this.
>aggro blood can do 14 damage at turn 4
how is that balanced?
>>170411275
>It's just one of the best card from a T1 deck put into another deck that's already T1, why are you complaining?
>>170411629
Because if they don't they die by turn 6.
>>170411629
Because you didn't throw wards at them until they died.
>>170411275
It gets its effect FOR FREE on turn 6 because of rush. It doesn't need to survive more than one. Hitting the board, trading with a minion, and reducing all commanders in your hand by 1 is insane value that costs sword nothing.
Sword now has turn 4 rush, turn 5 free commander evolve rush, and turn 6 rush. They don't even have to use evolution points to trade anymore.
>>170411629
Maybe you should have used those 2 PP followers in your hand to trade instead of playing Aria.
>>170411479
>t1 fairy circle
>t2 fairy fairy
>t3 ancient elf
>t4 fairy fairy 4/4 dude
That's quite the early game.
If you have a Wind God or Liza + Fairy Dancer in hand, it can get ugly pretty fast. It'll probably be too slow for ToG meta, but in RoB meta, it's decent.
>>170411228
>b-buttt according to /svg/ aggro blood is tier 3!
>>170411629
Where's your ward?
>>170411629
You had a reno and a dogma. Were you jacking off to t4?
Shadowverse Channel episode with ToG info on the 15th.
https://twitter.com/shadowverse_jp/status/839339920955101184
>>170411781
It doesn't have rush. It has storm.
>>170411629
mate, aggro blood is the only balanced aggro deck in the game. it runs out of steam, its minions are small, and it can't burst you for half your health with one card. its the only aggro deck that adheres to the definition of an aggro deck.
>>170411275
Actually that's not even a good comparison.
First of all, Merlin is severely under-stated due to her other ability of digging for cards. A lot of the time Merlin won't even survive her own turn. On the other hand, Gawain will need to be answered by the enemy expanding some sort of resource.
Second, Merlin is in a deck where you have no board. So even if Merlin does survive, it is more likely that the enemy has followers leftover to finish of Merlin on the next turn without expanding large amount of resource. Unlike that, a tempo sword will have much stronger board presence during the same turn.
>>170411783
>dude
That's rudeeven for a palm size midget.
>>170411629
because after turn 5 they no long exist as a class.
d-dragon w-will be t-tier o-one this time r-right g-guys? t-they're j-just saving the b-best for l-last!
>>170411629
>playing against an aggro deck
>dropping a slow ass amulet instead of the follower that can trade
You don't get the luxury of playing amulets against aggro if you're going second. Understand that turn order really fucking matters in how you change your gamestyle against certain decks.
>>170396835
this tourney doesn't look fair imo, from its table it seems people had to play different number of games, the winner even won less matches in a row than the guy on the second place
What reason is there to play Forest now?
Seraph is the only haven deck I enjoy playing.
>>170412034
my sides
>>170412034
Seriously needed an update with Eggs.
>>170412087
Cynthia is pretty cute.
>>170412087
Arisa's gasp.
>>170412087
Wolfbolt does alright.
>>170411897
>>170411771
i don't run ward on this deck ;_;
>>170411912
>>170411782
I-i thought i could wait a turn or 2 to pop my amulets
Okay you cucks, I'm trying to have fun with this goddamn game and I'm stalling out at fucking B0 promotions, so how would you improve this fucker without changing the overall idea?
Why the fuck do shitters love to BM in Take Two.
It's a fucking random mode.
Does anyone else feel that legendaries are too strong?
By which I mean, certain legendaries like Daria, Albert, and Bahamut are just so stupidly strong that they define entire archtypes, but this is bad because then power levels of decks in game become super swingy based on how many/when they draw these powerhouse cards.
Play a Daria deck and draw a Daria early, then draw Darias off your first Daria? It's like you're playing a Unstoppable Tier -1 Ultra Elder God Tier Deck. Never draw a Daria? Your deck plays like trash.
I guess I could say the same about Albert, but sword now gets around it by literally making him the only commander and tutoring with maid, which goes a long way towards explaining why sword right now is the deck to beat. In any case, Albert represents a HUGE chunk of the deck's power. Like, without that one card, the entire deck would fall apart. If you have no Alberts, there's nothing even approximating his power or his role that can compensate.
And then Bahamut. I mean, what is there to say? Every 10 drop ever is basically now forever consigned to being compared to this fucking table flip of a card. And it's like, how can any new 10 drop even compete? You can't make shit BETTER than Bahamut because Bahamut is already completely bananas. The only reason he isn't 3x in every deck is because a large number of games end before 10 - but in a universe where the meta slows down enough that games routinely go past turn 10, Bahamut is basically just going to be required in almost every deck.
I mean, they teased that new Zeus card and all I can think is... what's the point, when there's Bahamut?
And good god don't even get me started on what these fucking cards have done to T2.
What I would like to see in the next expansion is concentrating less power in flashy legendaries and putting more effort into making good stalwarts. A lot of crafts have extremely limited options in some point slots even now.
Anyone agree?
>Shadow probably doesn't have his nep
>Get dropped after I kill his khawy
What the fuck
>>170412087
Petal fencer is my forestfu
>>170412303
3 frontlines and 3 1/1 ninja dude with stealth.
>>170412303
Oh and before you suckers get too excited, those sevens are a pair of Gabriels
>>170412336
No
>inb4 Sword/Rune shitter.
>>170412336
>the rarest rarity has the overall stronger followers
really discard my luxfangs
> Dragon is bad
> New card enables Phoenix Roost+ Baha + Zel which is 13 face on to (5 if you ramp)
Funny how the game is over once you have 5hp or less because of the burn everyone has.
>>170412087
Those moments when you draw all your Mays and an ancient elf and completely shit all over aggro decks, especially sword roaches.
>>170411629
>>170412289
Aggro blood damages very fast in the early turn, but it runs out of cards very fast and it kills itself to hurt you, so instead of setting up amulets and stuff you change your early game and focus on setting up a board and killing their followers, once they're weak you finish them off
inb4 gawein making your alberts cost 1 point less while also not preventing maid leader from pulling albert
>>170412336
Bahamut destroyed deckbuilding headroom
>>170412303
Learn to use an image editing program to have everything on one page.
Take feena to fetch combos
Gelt for a 3/2 ward that helps you not die
>>170412087
Tempo Forest is a fun and relevant deck in removalverse that can still get wins by playing for the board instead of storming your opponent down. It's enjoyable as fuck. Look at this webm and tell me it isn't fun, I dare you.
https://track5.mixtape.moe/evolnj.webm
>>170412675
It was the definition of cancer before RoB. It is not fun for others to play against.
>>170412336
>And it's like, how can any new 10 drop even compete?
You realize every other 10 drop in the game is currently used?
>>170412451
By that logic, why not just make a super legendary rarity, maybe call it mythic legendary, and make those cards EVEN STRONGER than legendaries.
After all, it's ok, because they're rare right? And when every deck you face has 3x or 6x of these super rare cards, you'll be ok with that, because they're rare after all right? So rare!
Actually, fuck it. Let's print a 1 PP ultra mega exodia tier legendary card that wins the game when you play it. But it only appears once in every billion packs, and costs a trillion dust to make.
It's ok, because as you've stated, card rarity is basically a license for making things overpowered. It's ok to have overpowered cards as long as they have a shiny border! Good to know you fucking retard.
PS: Khawy and May say hey
>>170412303
Drop Conscription, Thief, Art, Cyclone, and Wind God
Add Gelt, Goblin Mage, Blitz Lancer, DoD
Craft more Alwida's Command.
>>170412514
>Turn 4 gawein
>Turn 5 4pp albert
???
You are talking about running albert as your only commander?
Will Blood ever get good cards?
>>170412034
>T1 Egg
>T2 Oracle
>T3 Uriel to fetch roost, or emissary to tutor >forte/baha/fervor
>T4 Phoenix Roost
>T5 Forte evo = 7 face
>T6 Baha + Zel evo = 13 face
gg
>>170412747
Cancer is a buzzword.
>>170412454
>play Roost
>opponent plays Mord/Khawys/Seraph/Heavenly Aegis/storms your face for 15 damage
H-hear
>>170412675
Looks like topdeck magic to me.
>>170412914
>uriel
I hope you love eggs, because you have 50% odds to fetch one.
>>170412837
Why does rarity exist except to outline general card potency?
Fucking retard.
>>170412454
>retarded post
> this spacing
hello r*ddit
>>170412837
>>170412946
Evolves dude that blocks fanfare
Drops phoenix roost
Alter fate into bahamut
Gg no re
>>170411629
>godsteel wings
nice deck you retarded fucking shitter
>>170412984
Cut the eggs, slap some ivory or something. When baha drops all wards and timeless witches are kill so it's literally unblockable 13 face at T6.
34411 need a concede
How do we end Swordcraft?
>>170412952
We were both pretty lucky. I sealed the game twice and he gets motherfucking Winter Caprice twice. Daria into daria into daria, levi into 2x piercing, while I topdeck the perfect answers when he checks me. A crazy game.
>>170410294
>No, we couldn't do that to sword. Meanwhile every other craft in the game gets constant meme legendaries.
Let's see if what you say it's true:
FOREST
>Ancient Elf (amazing)
>Tia (amazing)
>White Wolf (meme)
>Princess (meme)
>Ass Queen (meme)
2 Good legendaries in total
RUNE
>Merlin (amazing in Dshift)
>Golem (meme)
>Erasmus (meme)
>Pascale (meme)
>Daria (AMAZING)
2 Good legendaries in total
DRAGON
>Forte (was a staple, mostly ignored in today's builds)
>Flute (meme)
>Dragoon (meme)
>Fafnir (powercreeped into meme)
>Zimitra (meme)
Arguably only 1 good legendary that's not even used anymore, 2 if Disco Dragon becomes good in Tempest.
SHADOW
>Cerberus (good)
>Fly Lord (meme)
>Pluto (meme)
>Atomy (meme)
>Nepnep (good)
2 good legendaries, either for aggro or control builds
BLOOD
>Soul Dealer (meme)
>Blood Mary (meme)
>Beast Dom (meme)
>Matriach (meme)
>Milf Vania (good)
1 good legendary, but you could argue that Matriach is good in some control or midrange builds.
HAVEN
>Eidolon (memes)
>Skullfane (memes)
>Seraph (amazing)
>Moon (was good, but got powercreeped)
>Jeanne (meme and powercreeped)
Once again, 1 good legendary and 1 arguably good legendary in SOME decks, but mostly forgotten today.
SWORD
>Aurelia (was good in control, but mostly ignored nowdays anyway)
>Albert (AMAZING)
>Otomeme (was good, got powercreeped)
>Alex (decent in control, powercreeped)
>Tsubaki (good)
2 amazing legendaries, 3 other were good before but got powercreeped by new removal options or better followers at the same slot.
Does this seems like favoritism?
This rune deck was disgusting
The worst part is that these """midrange""" sword fuckers still get salty when losing.
>>170412336
>>170412837
tldr
>>170413051
please do not post my wife
>>170413093
Thanks vampy
>>170412675
Tempo in RoB is straight up garbage without the advantage of going 2nd.
>>170413213
Zato stop posting.
>>170412837
>does anyone else feel super legendaries are too strong
>by that logic why not make a super duper legendary rarity
what are some spicy memes I can try out in forest?
>>170413341
Venom please go.
>>170413134
The thing to note is that, due to the unsplintered nature of the Craft, there's no reason keeping you from piling all those legendaries together, Elf has this same bullshit issue.
For comparison, Merlin and Daria typically don't go together, outside of the super-greedy Daria-D-Shift fusion deck. Cerb and Nep are both great legendaries, but you'll never see them in the same decklist unless the person making it is nutzo. CBlood only sometimes includes Matriarch or Mary with Queen Vamp, and both Haven and Dragon have only 1 lego worth a damn.
>>170412751
I guess I'm looking at it primarily from a T2 point of view, since that's what I play the most. In T2, Bahamut is so, so far above Genesis Dragon and Satan that it isn't even funny. And again, it's not even like Genesis Dragon or Satan are bad, even in T2. But Bahamut is just on a totally different level.
Genesis Dragon can close out a game. But it won't save you if you're losing. Satan even more so, you can only really play him if you're already in a very safe (that is, winning) position.
Bahamut, on the other hand, just fucking flips the table AND puts a lethal threat at the same time. There's really not any other card that both answers AND develops a threat so efficiently and so devastatingly in T2. There's nothing even close. It's a Themis' that also hits amulets, and then has a 13/13 body tacked on...
>>170412034
Am I doing this right?
>>170413396
Make a deck with Forest Archelon, Fen Sprite, Dwarf Perfumer and Forest of Dreams
>>170413516
>Nep and Cerb
Yet some dude won a tourney with 2578.
>>170413568
>a0
what did you mean by this post anon?
>>170413165
How is the list with Executioners? It seems too risky to play against so much Sword.
>>170413516
2578 Nep isn't nutzo. Cerberus + Howl can give you that extra reach at the end, or allow you to play more aggressive early if need be (dshit).
And Nep still gives you Mord + Khawy, which is all that matters.
>thread goes into panic overload over legendary
>then dies
Why this is more common and common?
>>170413625
Oh, I didn't know that. Post dick? One of the biggest reasons I haven't made a Nep.dek is because I like Cerb way too much
>>170413568
Should have concede instead.
>>170413693
Ive been playing with my meme dragon deck for most of ranked
>>170413761
>1-3 posts per minute
>dead
Are you sure about this?
>>170413761
AAAAAAAAAAAH I AM REALLY MAD I'M QUITTING THE GAME AFTER THIS EXPANSION I SWEAR THIS TIME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH FUCKKEKCRAFTERS
>>170413163
>dragonbond + juno
That combo actually got me my first rune 5 win during DE.
Plus the 2 "balanced mageman"
61998
pls concede
or play a card if you need a full match
>>170413761
The Americans went to sleep.
>>170413945
>>170413945
>>170413945
new thread
need a private win for a daily
29626
thanks
>>170413754
It lets me trade well against the 2/2s they run, and it helps me trigger the generals. Nice tech against that midrange sword.
>>170413798
i dont care faggot
can someone post a crop of just crazy smiling rowen's face?
>>170413971
>10 post early
>>170413923
thanks nigga
>>170413559
>I'm looking at it primarily from a T2 point of view
Those cards are balanced around deck building, not T2
>Genesis Dragon can close out a game. But it won't save you if you're losing.
Genesis Dragon is a Dragon card, the whole point is you ramp up and shit out Storm. Bahamut may "put" a threat, but it's a threat the opponent can deal with; Genesis Dragon acts before the opponent can do anything. And because it's a Dragon card, it can come out well before T10 (Of course this applies to Bahamut too, but a T7 Genesis Dragon is much more effective than a T7 Bahamut to win the game)
>Satan even more so, you can only really play him if you're already in a very safe (that is, winning) position.
Safe =/= winning. Many Satan decks NEED Satan to win because their whole point is to stall the game as long as possible until you get Satan. If they don't get Satan, they don't win, they just keep putting out wards and doing no face damage.
And you forgot to take into account Flame Destroyer and Dimension Shift
So the nip somehow retranslated Gawain
When this follower attack, subtract 1 from all commander cards in your hand.
Enhance (6) +1/+1 and Rush
Evolve: Subtract 1 from all commander cards in your hand.
It is not Clash.
>>170414025
t. Cuck
>>170414090
Flame Destroyer is no more a 10 drop than Dimension Shift is an 18 drop.
>>170413783
This one.
http://game-ai.jp/24689/
>>170414221
i dont play dragon
>>170413974
anyone?
>>170414261
By that logic Genesis Dragon isn't a 10 drop either.
The point is "Cards that have a cost of 10 (or higher)" are just as useable as Bahamut.
>>170410221
Depends a lot on if they have a board wipe or not. It's always terrible when blood uses two revelations on your board of 12/12s.
Does anyone else feel like they are generally more lucky with card draw and opening packs and win a lot more on their phone?
As a newer player, how does path to purgatory work?
I mean it mentions shadows but thats only a shadowcraft thing, can I just not see their shadow count as their opponent or are they blind to it too? Are they counting cards?
I don't quite get it.
>>170417784
If your on a phone you tap on your deck on how much shadows you or the enemy has and if they have enough shadows it activates the Ptp
>>170418519
Ah, neat
Thanks mate