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Asscraft Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play class-based CCG.

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

The GBF collab event is LIVE AND ENDS IN 3 DAYS. Check the following pastebin for details:
http://pastebin.com/3U2KM9p5

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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR

FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/


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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#


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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U

Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs


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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

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Bloody Mary is a very good card
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Reminder to filter and ignore trip/namefags.

Enjoy shadowverse!
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need a private win for a daily

29626

thanks
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Cerberus is in heat!
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>>170413945
Pretty flat ass S M H
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BOW BEFORE DARK DRAGOON, RULER OF THE SKIES
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>he plays dragon
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Some anon in the last thread claimed that Sword never gets meme legendaries and other classes always get shit, let's see if it's true:

FOREST
>Ancient Elf (amazing)
>Tia (amazing)
>White Wolf (meme)
>Princess (meme)
>Ass Queen (meme)

2 Good legendaries in total, the others only enable inconsistent alternate-win condition decks

RUNE
>Merlin (amazing in Dshift)
>Golem (meme)
>Erasmus (meme)
>Pascale (meme)
>Daria (AMAZING)

2 amazing legendaries in total staple in 2 different decks, because they don't sinergize with each other

DRAGON
>Forte (was a staple, mostly ignored in today's builds)
>Flute (meme)
>Dragoon (meme)
>Fafnir (powercreeped into meme)
>Zimitra (meme)

Arguably only 1 good legendary that's not even used anymore, 2 if Disco Dragon becomes good in Tempest. Most are inconsistent alt-win condition bait.

SHADOW
>Cerberus (good)
>Fly Lord (meme)
>Pluto (meme)
>Atomy (meme)
>Nepnep (good)

2 good legendaries, nep even created her own deck, but generally aren't used together because of the lack of sinergy

BLOOD
>Soul Dealer (meme)
>Blood Mary (meme)
>Beast Dom (meme)
>Matriach (so so)
>Milf Vania (good)

1 good legendary, but you could argue that Matriach is good in some control or midrange builds but most of the time ignored because it's too late. Blood Mary decks are too inconsistent, the others are awful.

HAVEN
>Eidolon (memes)
>Skullfane (memes)
>Seraph (amazing)
>Moon (was good, but got powercreeped)
>Jeanne (meme and powercreeped)

Once again, 1 good legendary that created her own deck and 1 arguably good legendary in Storm builds, but mostly forgotten today.

SWORD
>Aurelia (was good in control, but mostly ignored nowdays anyway)
>Albert (AMAZING)
>Otomeme (was good, got powercreeped)
>Alex (decent in control, powercreeped)
>Tsubaki (good)

2 amazing legendaries, 3 other were good before but got powercreeped by new removal options or better followers at the same slot.
These cards do sinergize with each other

Does this seems like favoritism?
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>Gawain

When this follower attacks, subtract 1 from all commander cards in your hand.
Enhance (6) +1/+1 and Rush
Evolve: Subtract 1 from all commander cards in your hand.

Think Latham but more cancerous.

>turn 5 frontguard going second

This is FINE.
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>>170413134
You forgot to add that Zirnitra is literally proto-Nepthys. Nep drops just under the same body, but destroys, heals, and gets some misc effect(s)

>>170413396
Make a deck that uses:

2pp Dwarf perfumer: If an evolved allied follower is in play, choose an enemy follower, it can't attack next turn
2pp Forest of Dreams countdown (2) at the end of your turn, select a random enemy follower, it can't attack until after the end of the opponents turn
3pp Fen sprite fanfare: choose an enemy follower. it can't attack next turn
6pp Grand archer Selwyn. Choose an enemy follower it can't attack next turn
7pp Forest Archelon Fanfare: ALL enemy followers in play lose the ability to attack next turn if at least 2 other cards were played this turn
3(8)pp Selwyn's Command: Summon a skystride Raptor. Enhance (8): Put a Grand Archer Selwyn into your hand and change its cost to 0.

Or do a tempo deck that uses lionel to get a 0cost fencer to drop with a 1 and 0-cost faeries with an elf of the gemstones.

Try to nut a t3 soccer mom and play a harvest festival behind her to do a control deck
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Reminder that the promo video of the new expansion is released today.
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>>170414256
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P-play shadowcraft. We have a lot of cuties!
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>gourmet emperor
>ultimate carrot
>dragon egg
is dragon the chef class now?
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>>170414614
Where?
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>>170414598
>X finding Protoman

I'm fucking triggered over here. The fucking timegap between Classic and X is so fucking massive reeeeeeeee
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>>170414576
>2 amazing legendaries, 3 other were good before but got powercreeped by new removal options or better followers at the same slot.
That's an incredibly biased way of putting it. The fact that Otomeme isn't used anymore doesn't changed the fact that it was a strong meta card when it was released. Every single sword legendary were meta when they were released, it's not like other classes where the cards were shit to begin with.
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>>170414580
>turn 5 frontguard going second
Your math doesn't add up anon
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>>170414405
What's better a small ass but really firm and thigh.

Or a bigger soft thick ass?
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>>170414580
>3pp albert is real
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>>170414831
>Dragon egg slots into neutralcraft seamlessly
Oh yes.
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>>170414580
There's another translation where evo subtract is when you attack? So which is correct?
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>>170414870

Asses, unlike breasts, have a minimum size threshold. Mind you, that doesn't mean all asses need to be fat, but there should be some meat/muscle there. Nobody likes a Lightning in the room.
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>>170414868

>Evolve and attack with Gawain on turn 4
>frontguard is now 5PP

You better believe it.
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>>170414868
No wait never mind I misread that
I thought the second reduction was the enhance effect
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>>170414580
IRONWROUGHT-LIGHT CONFIRMED TIER 0 DECK.
CAN'T CONTAIN STORM BURST OF THIS MAGNITUDE!
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>>170414870

You tell me
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>>170414580
>2pp banner
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>>170414870
I like girls with fat butts. Not big necessarily, but fat. Not enough artists draw that.
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>>170414985

>turn 4 Gawain
>turn 5 Luminous Mage + Gawain

We need to go DEEPER
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how the fuck did the last three swords i faced have 3 alberts in hand by turn 9? they didn't even tutor him. so fucking retarded
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I need pictures, pictures of dork Forte.
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Wait, is Erika seriously a lesbian?
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>>170415213
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>>170415303
What do you think, anon?
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>>170415303
Uh, yeah? How is her homolust not obvious enough?
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>>170414074
I want to make some, but I don't feel so sure about spending vials so close to an expansion
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>>170415303

There are no lesbians, only delusional bisexuals.
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>>170415209
This has also been happening to me only today, i dont know whats up.
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>>170415303

You mean have we actually seen anything sexual words or advances happening? No

But she really gives off "I'm lesbian for the princess" vibes.

Futa princess x3 gangbanging Erika when?
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>>170415420
Just play your deck and think, what could ?I do if I had a bloody mary that dies next turn.
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>>170415213
you dont deserve the dork
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>all other classes, even fucking neutral, get cool stuffs
>dragon gets a fucking egg

ROAR
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Which is the real Gawayn effect? I'm confused. There's no way it can subtract 2 in 1 turn right?
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I thought I was fighting D-Shift, but then I hear "WITH A BANG AND A BOOM"
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>>170413945
THICC
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>>170415745
Erasmus?
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>>170415745
Kys Dubcuck
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>>170415516
all that storm damage is completely stupid. nearly every turn is free damage to your face and then you clean up. too fast even for my dirt rune
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>>170415669
It's hard to say because a) nobody here speaks Korean, and b) even the Korean article doesn't quote the effect directly, only describes it.
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>>170415303
they're just friends, take off those yuri goggles
>>>/u/
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>>170414956
>Wanting a fat ass
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>>170415609
Our cards are pretty good. If you weren't a saha-luci bandwagon shitter you'd know that
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>>170414576
The other anon is right. It's pointless to analyze it based on whats currently good because it doesn't give you the entire picture of how the game meta changes. The point people are making is that every expansion sword gets good legendaries to build decks around where as other classes often get garbage to play with.

Of course some cards are going to stop being used over time, that's the nature of card games, but at least the sword cards actually got used at some point. Look at fucking flute for dragon. If they printed something like that for sword we would never hear the end of it from you faggots. Having a good legendary eventually get powercreeped by your own cards is better than having complete dogshit legendaries that never see the light of day in real decks.

In terms of who has gotten favored the most in terms of legendary quality every new expansion it's easily.

Sword > Shadow = Haven = Rune > Forest > Blood >>>>>>> Dragon
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>>170415872
just make albert 6pp and remove maid leader from the game and the deck is now fine
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>>170415819
Daria is with a bang and a boom

>>170415901
>"she is my Everything"
>Goggles
uh...
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Im going to play Satan Dragoncraft and theres nothing you can do to stop me
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>gawain boost twice on t4 and t5
>0 pp banner/cursed general
>buffs/storms for days till the next next expansion
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>>170413945
>current revealed cards are from RoB

Please stop fucking with the OP. Someone fix it next time please.
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>>170415957

All I said was "minimum threshold", you fucking paddy piece of shit.

A washboard-flat chest can be attractive. Hank Hill's ass can never be attractive.
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>>170416086
ah
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>>170415669

>can't into sheet

Mate.
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>>170416173
Fuck everything I'm switching to Sword
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>>170415083
give me examples so i can learn how to draw fat butts
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>>170416271
>Hank Hill's ass

Worst taste. Flat everything or go home.
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>>170415213
I was red pilled into liking SV/RoB Forte over Granblue Forte
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i love when it's turn 4 and i'm at 6 health
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>>170416326

Not that guy, but I'm pretty sure I know what he's on about. Takeda Hiromitsu draws some pretty fatty butts. So does methonium (pic related) and Rebis (you could say almost comically so)

It's about the appearance of "softness", rather than the more typical round bubble butt.
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>>170416512
Just ward and heal bro
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>>170416083
i'll rather just remove albert from the game. he removes any need of synergy from sword decks. they might as well take commander/officers from the class
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>>170414580
>turn 7 leonidas
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>Sword will have a 5/6 ward that throws out a 2/3 ward on turn 5 if they go second

I thought they wanted to fix the fucking game regarding going first vs second, not breaking it further.
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Looking for a complete game, come beat me up

I still have to do the 100 gold quests

93409
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It's turn 7 and this guy just slapped your leader's cunny
What do you do?
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>>170416736

Make that turn 6.
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>>170416736
>4pp Otomeme
>4pp Sage Commander
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>>170416875
who?
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>>170416874
No one?
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>>170417062
it's a Barong. Ward and target immune
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>>170413945
Does anyone know if they ever released a physical Odin card from promotions? These cards from DE are being touted as a "complete set" but someone supposedly has an odin
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>>170417021
>Sage Commander
You're just a little baby.

>T4 Gawain evo
>T5 Otomeme
>T6 Captain Wilfrid (+2/+2, Ward for the guards)
Ahhh shiettttt
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>>170417203
Assuming the Otomeme guards survive, that combo is very disgusting
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>>170417149
Thou merely hath to inflict Themis' upon it, brethren
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>>170416648
>every other craft
>you must utilize your main class gimmick to get any value from your followers
>swordcraft
>"ummm what is swords trait again?"
>"lol who cares just give them more stats"

There were only 2 cards in swordcraft from RoB that utilize commander/officer.

Meanwhile Dragon had 5 discard garbage cards and 1 overflow. Nearly half of its total cards in RoB
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66726 need a concede
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>>170417314
To be "fair", none of Sword's legendaries before Gawain had the words Officer or Commander in their card text. Not one.
So it's nothing new, and ToG is actually a step in the other direction.
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>>170416736
>>turn 7 leonidas
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Sword is T0 right now and from the looks of it going to have another T0 deck.
Guess its time to make a sword deck
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>>170417314
Walfrid buffs and wards officers
Tristan needs a commander to pop last words to have a non-amulet sticky officer to buff
Luminous mage evos commanders and luminous knight buffs officer dmg
Gawain reduces commander costs
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>t4 Gawain evolve
>t5 Gawain evolve
>t6 Gawain Enhance
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>>170416736
>>170417582

Follow that up with a double Urd next turn.
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>dont like sword
>pulled a full csword set from packs anyways
if i must become cancer to survive the next expansion then so be it
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>>170414576
Nigga dont you dare to downplay Saber
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>>170416326
I can't right now sorry, other people are around. But >>170416542 has the right idea. They should prioritize being meaty and 'dense' over large.
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>>170417695
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>170417668
Nice vials
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sorry luna, khawy's not gonna save you.

>when you ramp into satan with card draw still in hand
feels goodman
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Play cunnycraft.
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>>170418134
The moon drives me crazy
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>>170417668
You're gonna have fun with a vengeance deck in TotG
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I can check my ranked match wins, but is there a way to check my ranked match losses? I only have one deck that I've used in ranked if it matters.
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>Use Wyvern Cavalier on Phoenix Roost twice

>Next turn
>Phoenix Roost
>Forte
>Urd x3

Would that work?
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>>170418191
kill yourself dubcuck
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>>170414952
It subtracts whenever you either evo or attack. So basically you'll get -2 on cards whenever you play this guy on turn 4 going 2nd. Midrange and control are about to become stupid when you go 2nd.
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>>170418261
isnt it about like 15 damage?
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>>170418271
kill yourself weebcuck
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>>170417818
She is not even used anymore on Control anon.

She is just too slow and do nothing T5.
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>>170418331
That's 20 damage
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>>170417149
This is why you run Medusa's Gaze.
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oops i accidentally bought this
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能力:攻撃するたびに、手札にある「指揮官」カードのコストを-1する。
【エンハンス6】+1/+1突進の効果を持つ。

there's no mention of it getting the reduction on evo and this is straight from the game ai page, please don't spread false info
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>>170418429
so it only lowers the cost when it attacks?
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>>170418621
according to this, yes.
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>>170418191
I've always heard it as "Me mum drives me crazy"
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Gawain works exactly like Merlin (minus the spellboost draw).
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>>170417668
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>>170414576
I was looking at my collection the other day to check what came in what set. Looking at dragon since it's my favorite craft was so depressing. I didn't realize that every remotely decent legendary we have was from the original launch. Every set we've gotten memes. It started as a joke, but I'm starting to believe that Cygames really doesn't like the craft.
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>>170417539
The problem with his effect is that it is given FOR FREE and is just a bonus by playing the card. If it were a blood card or dragon card it probably wouldn't do anything until overflow/vengeance. If it were forest you would have to play 2 cards. Shadow would have a necromancy cost to get this effect. Rune would have to spellboost it. Haven it would have some sort of countdown before it activated. Sword is the only craft that routinely gets their effects handed to them for free, Gawain is no different.

The only way his effect would be remotely comparable would be if Gawain didn't activate unless an officer was also on the field. It's literally not hard to have a commander in your hand to reap the benefits of the card.

>>170417636
>Walfrid buffs and wards officers
Walfrid buffs EVERYTHING. It only gives ward to officers. So he still works without explicitly being forced to use the trait

>Luminous mage evos commanders and luminous knight buffs officer dmg
Luminous mage summons 2 commanders. You get its bonus for free the turn you play it. It requires no set up. And again Luminous knight buffs all followers, not just officers.

>Gawain reduces commander costs
Read above. It's a bonus effect given for free. It is not even remotely comparable to hurdles other classes have to go through.

>Tristan
Ding ding. The only card that actually uses the trait and it's trash. Yes that's the real reason sword cards don't use them. The trait synergy is trash so they just don't print cards that explicitly use it in swordcraft while everyone else has to use their own.

That is the current problem with shadowverse design and why dragon and blood are so shit right now. To many hurdles to jump through just to play cards that are barely mediocre.
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>>170418873
all animated? fug
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>>170418429
Does Game AI have a source that's different to the Korean one?
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>>170418898
What the fuck is this ? Well thought-out criticism, in my /svg/ ?
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>>170418271
>Complain about dubs
>The only way to know that sentence is from the dub is if you use it yourself
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>>170418429
Their source is still probably random people on twitter until something official comes out. I feel like they leaked these cards in Korean because apparently nobody that plays this game knows how to navigate Korean sites or speaks Korean.
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>>170418387
Only in those super specialized control vs control decks
She is still core ward for sword
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>>170419047
>>170418898
Samefag
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>>170419065
weebcucks eternally btfo
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i want to mention that no matter how much gawain reduces albert's cost the enhance will ALWAYS make it cost 9 if you have 9 mana available
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>>170418826
>I can devour your teeth!
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>>170419142
Yep you caught me. Only me and you in this thread, bud.
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>>170414576
Stop calling everything a meme already, you vocabulary-limited cretins. Only a handful of those legendaries actually are memes.
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>>170419142
Wrong
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>>170419142
How can you tell?
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what's with all of these faggots in unranked roping and hoping that the opponent forfeits
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>>170419228
What is the point of unranked
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>>170418898
There'd be a lot more withotu the board space issues. You can use ironwrought and/or arthur's light to have a board for commanders to buff but together you just don't have the space
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Is it good? Last card is fangblade slayer x2.
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>>170419065
Or because you keep seeing dubcucks typing this quote.
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>>170419250
the point of unranked is not playing ranked because this meta is hot garbage
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>>170419250
doing dailies that is not suitable for rank
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>>170419250
Dragoncraft dailies
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when the fuck is the expansion coming out? i need something to spend my money on to fill the empty void of my life.
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>>170419065
>The only way to know that sentence is from the dub is if you use it yourself
not the first time someones said that line in /svg/, dumb new faggot

and dubcucks are the only ones you see randomly spouting character lines, its not hard to identify literally at all
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When is the next Crystal sale guna be?
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>>170419432
>he can't win as dragoncraft on the ladder
wew
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>>170419526
not all of us are in B3
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Finally done with Granblue missions thank fuck
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>>170419519
December ;^)
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Starting player with 4k gold saved up. I'm going to assume power creep is inevitable so should I save it all for the expansion?
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>>170419297
Banner is supposed to have many cards like ascetic knight that generate multiple followers, and buffers like the fencers.
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>>170419697
AA2 and dragoncraft dailies are not a problem, or are you saying that somehow being in Master would make dragoncraft dailies impossible even though I already face master players?
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>>170419297
Take out the assassins, the banners, the centaur vanguards, and the mentor's teaching. No one runs these cards anymore.
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>>170419721
>6370
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>>170419297
Too many commanders for the maid to reliably grab Alberto Too few officers to justify avant. Hell, Avant isn't justified in anything outside of T2.

Also the midgame looks kinda weak. As a midrange, you lack trading options. Also too weak for aggro.

Switch Unica for the 2 pp ward. Unica is a pseudo ward anyways, and it doesn't benefit from the banners.
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>>170419770
>banner
>fencers

kys
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Need a concede: 64437
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>>170419776
not all of us spent over 10k vials on a meme craft
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>>170419889
Thanks, you too.
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>Fanfare: Gain +2/+2 if there are at least 20 Neutralcraft cards in your deck.

I mean, are we going to get more meme like this?
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>It's another "weebcucks vs dubcucks" episode
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Why did sword once again get the best legendary?
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>>170419967
more like weebcucks v people who just play the fucking game
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>>170419784
7k over here
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>>170419297
>Assassin, Avant, Centaur, Banner, Fangblade
>in current year

Sadly all too slow

>Unica in a mostly aggro deck with banner

You know veteran lancer exists for sword and basically does the same thing with the bonus of being an officer in banner
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>>170419508
TSUKOME
TSUKOME
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>>170419784
>he hasn't started saving for TOG
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Can't wait to see all the new commons/uncommons so we can figure out what the new Daria will be.
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>>170420016
>more like patricians versus plebeians
ftfy
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>>170419931
Oh yeah you know it. Rowen is gonna be the king of neutralcraft.

>>170419973
Because dragon got 10pp Terror of Innsmouth. 5/5, fanfare: Summon a hydra. Evolve: Evolve and give all hydra's target immunity
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Hey
It's me
Vania
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>there are those in this general that says this card is too slow for dshift
>when it's common for them to use magic missle and light for cantrip

Control literally bends over to DShift this coming April.
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>>170419784
>>170420018

>lowly peasant with only 5k saved up
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>>170419508
>and dubcucks are the only ones you see randomly spouting character lines

Least intelligent post of the year?
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>>170420161
Surely Cygames will finally release the anti-DShift card in the next expac so we can all stop playing aggro.
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>>170419891
Any takers?
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>>170419967
>>170420016
>>170420114
I'd really like it if there was a way to implement subtitles.
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>>170420161
You're right, but on the other hand this doesn't spellboost your hand
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>>170420161
yes, and playing magic missile or light on turn 2 vs aggro tends to lose you the game
it just makes the matchup vs control decks better, but you were already favored, so it's redundant
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>>170420115
Stop bullying dragons with impossible dreams. It's not nice. There's a limit to how much suffering we can take, even if we got eggs.
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>>170419770
>>170419778
>>170419846
>>170420075
I am quite new to swordcraft, can you suggest some good royal banner deck?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSAo0ekHm6g
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>>170420161
>random spell
>SV doesn't have rng they said
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>>170420232
Still open, fucking steam fuck things up
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>>170420161
>kaleidoscopic glowing your own library
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>>170420450
Alright, as much as I would like to help you, the game isn't loading. Sorry anon..
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>>170420161
Some people actually use their magic missiles for helping in removal against aggro. This thing doesn't spellboost either and using Merlin with it mills yourself. It's not slow it's just not needed or useful at all.
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Does Cygames want to kill Aggro? If you don't trade with Gawayn as aggro you're going to deal with 3pp Aurelia and 2 PP Amelia next turn. 6PP Frontguard also can't be taken easily.
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>>170420442
>shitposting
Drawing a card is random by nature. This simply draws you a card but guaranteeing that it can't be a follower or amulet. So it's less random than stuff like Sacred Plea.
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>>170420389
>royal banner deck
They haven't been good since Rise of Bahamut released, just run your deck without them. Mid-range sword is the new cancer on ladder.
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>>170420515
Okay, I'm gonna wait for another anon


Need a concede: 64437
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fuck Urd.
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With a bang and badaboom
Ya fackin mook
Ey I'm walking here
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>>170420389
My bad, that list you're running is actually fairly up to date. Going off of netdecks, that may be your best for now. I don't play the deck enough to make specific changes.
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Google doc anon reporting. Apparently Gawain doesn't have the Evolve line and probably someone misinterpreted the gook article.

So his rule text will be

Whenever this follower attacks, subtract 1 from all Commander cards in your hand.
Enhance (6): Gain +1/+1 and Rush.

So it is not as cancerous as we think, I hope.
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61354 (Golly)
need a full win or just a concede if we already played
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>>170420663
I like it just because it may actually be a chance to have a deck based around commanders instead of nothing but officers.
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>>170420663
You can still evolve him to get his text use since his text is baseline. Nothing changes.
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>>170420695
>>170420574
I'm this anon, I'll concede first, then concede please
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>>170420715

The difference is you don't get double subtraction on the evolution turn. That is what will most fear about.
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>>170420663
It's still really strong. He's a soft ward, gain full stats on evo, 3/4 4PP and has flexibility with enhance.
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>>170420715
It still lets you on-curve do disgusting things like get out of Otomeme before salamander, then buff otomeme after that with Walfrid. At least as far as what I was concerned about, he's still cancerous. I'll be over here gnawing on eggs while my face disappears.
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>>170420715
the original translation implied he would spellboost twice on your turn and if your opponent had to attack him to kill him he would spellboost your commanders again, for a grand total of -3 to all commanders (2 pp albert, 3 pp otohime, etc.)
with this new translation, he's probably only gonna spellboost once at most, which is a world of difference
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>>170420161
>a card that makes d-shift better against control
Wow, just what the deck needed to be t1.

>no immediate impact
>doesn't even spellboost your hand
It fills your hand with cards that become even harder to use because you played an amulet the previous turn instead of a spell that has actual synergy with the spellboost mechanic by making things cheaper/stronger. Which complicates things further because having your hand get too full to be able to continue cycling and playing cards is something D-shift has to actually deal with.

It only really has a place in dirt rune decks.
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>>170420663
Jeno BTFO
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>>170420695
Thanks Mr.Vampire
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Can't wait for the new forest lego that reduces the cost of all cards in your hand by one every time you play a fairy!
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lazyfag here did they announce the release date for tempest yet?
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>>170420854
You need lots of commanders though.
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>>170420854
Retard?
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>>170420871
Ramp sure looks worth it when every other class gets it at a better value. :^)
At least before I could argue it was only Runecraft being bullshit, swordcraft getting value memes has to be the final nail in the coffin.
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>>170420969
No your mom is.
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>>170420893
All expansions have come out the thursday 29th of each month.

So probably this will get released on the 29/30
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>tfw you lose because May doesn't shoot what you want
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Is there a beginers guide anywhere? I got the android app which im assuming is the same game and im losing a lot in story mode.
Also do you need yo go through steam for the pc or is there a standalone client
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>>170421304
git gud
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Is Gawain a commander as well?
If so he reduces other Gawains too.

>tfw Gawain+Cursed General meme decks
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>Henriette
I guess neutralcraft finally has another wincon.
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>>170421373
How 2 git gud
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>>170421304
Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR

FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
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>>170421304
>im losing a lot in story mode.
Get good

>Also do you need yo go through steam for the pc or is there a standalone client
Its steam only.
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?????
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>Daria drops a mob at me
>drop homecoming
>thinking...

Ahhh, tis like the singin' ah the angels
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guys... I think made discard dragon viable.
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>>170421304
>Losing a lot in story mode

What class are you playing man? I can see losing once or twice with the starter near the end.
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>>170421663
Read the card.
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>>170421763
how? post dicklist
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>tfw you reach a 0 floor and can now dick around in ranked without fear of losing points.

give me your best memes.
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>>170420663
Would make sense since it says he got +2/+2 off evolve and he had an evolve effect. Still seems pretty interesting even if he's like this. Basically a bad version of Merlin but better stats, and I wonder if people will even opt to use him for evolving if they don't have to. Otohime will still probably suck even if she's out on turn 5 since Salamander Breath is 6PP and Lion Spirit is 5PP, but it'll be interesting to see how you can use this guy.
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>>170421794
Im using the starting forest deck. Im on chapter 8 i think. Ive actually never played a card game like this so im trying to learn the general strategies and flow of the game.

Im pretty sure i do suck but i dont think i should be losing this much.
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>>170421853
I'm not wondering why the card did that, I'm wondering why my opponent thought now was a good time to play it
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>>170421763
>I went on a winstreak with a deck, this means its good
Anon...
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>>170422006
>Forest

Kind of makes sense then. I'd suggest trying a few other factions to unlock their cards then practice a tad more in beginner and unranked.
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>winning frequently with a strange roach control deck

What the fuck am I playing.
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>Has 1k rupies.
>Tempted to use some to open packs

HELP
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>Have a 13/13 and a 4/4 on board
>Opponent has 9 health
>Opponent uses Dance of Death on the 4/4 then concedes
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51158 Quick concede please
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>>170422514
Look at the google doc and see how overloaded those new cards are. Resist the temptation, you'll get rewarded at the end of the month.
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>>170421858

Here you go. I found it better to play it as a tempo deck instead of a control/ramp. I got rid of all the ramp because it either bricked my hand or made my hand too small for any options.
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>>170422684
>egg
>OVERLOADED
:')
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>>170422514
>saving up
>go 4 days without opening a pack
>the itch starts kicking in
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>>170421981
>Basically a bad version of Merlin
THIS IS WHAT SWORDFAGS ACTUALLY BELIEVE, HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS ARE CANCER
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>>170421763

Nigger I went on a 12 winstreak with Fortecraft in Masters, Discard Dragon is a fucking joke.
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>>170421947
PtP Forest/Dirt rune/discard Dragon/Blood/Rune/haven
Saha-Luci Neutralcraft Satan Core

Snowman/conjuring force rune
Conjuring dirt rune
Conjuring ptp rune
Dragonbond/Magisa Reina Simalcrum Conj Force
Flame&Glass DShift
Dirt Rune
Flame&Glass guardian wall dirt rune

Ambush royal
Ambush Royal feat. Flame&Glass
Cursed general combo royal
Castle Arthur's Resolve Royal
Otomemes tempo royal

Saha Ramp dragon
Ramped pendant storm dragon
Overflow board flood disco draw dragon
Polyphonic Ramp
Pheonix roost Ramp
Fluted spire disco flood
JO dragon
JO Deathmist ramp dragon
Discard/JO dragon
Discard dragon
OTK Discard dragon
Ramped pendant ward flame&Glass dragon
Ramped grea-hydra boost dragon
Midrange boost dragon feat. Zirnitra
Cannot be attacked boost dragon
Megalorca Simalacrum Seacraft boost Dragon

Tyrant Lord Atomemes
Midrange Atomemes
Burial banquet Atomemes
Last word shadowcraft
Phantom Dragon Mid range

Non-Roach combo forest
Tempo Rose queen Forest
Festival control forest
Titania's tempo forest
Titania-Reina Simulacrum tempo forest

Soul Dealer vengeancecraft
Soul Dealer Draincraft
Dark General, Azazel, laura-servant Control Blood
Laura Neutralcraft blood
Moriana Control Blood

Eido-Skullfam Count havencraft
Laelia defense Haven
Sun Satan Haven
Spell immune stat boost Haven

Reina-Simalacrum Neutralcraft
Well-spear boost Neutralcraft
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>>170422843
dick pls
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>>170422514

I have over 3k at the moment, you don't even know what temptation is.
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>>170422701
Looks about right. An urd would allow you to double storm, heal a cavalier, or pop the pyrox for 2 draw.
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>>170422683
Thank you Ruler of the Sky chan
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>>170422892

I'm not saying it's good, I'm just saying a winstreak in Masters doesn't mean shit anymore.
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>>170422965
ah thats understandable
>>
STORM WAS A MISTAKE
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>>170422843
>forest is bad
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>>170423123
>reading is hard
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>>170420835
>Wow, just what the deck needed to be t1.
This card doesn't help much. D-shift have a lot of draw and spells anyway so you just skip a turn without spellboosts or make your deck weaker to constantly pull d-shift, that means you don't have much spells. In any way i see it the card is useless for any rune deck.
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>>170423123

Where the hell did I say that?
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>Use Dragon Emissary twice to get two of either Phoenix Roost, Skull Dragon or Henriette
>Use Wyvern Cavalier on Phoenix Woorst

>Phoenix Roost
>Skull Dragon
>Zell
>Henriette

WE DID IT BOYS DRAGON IS FINALLY GOOD
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>>170416038
>Haven = Rune > Forest > Blood
Go back to see which legends those crafts got in RoB and reorganize that list.
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hello, operator?

I have just been memed on.
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>>170423797
someone got ROOSTED
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>>170423797
>noble fairy
>pegasus elf
>titania
>baalt
This game was a big meme war and you lost it, but you fought well.
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any phoenix roost decklist?
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>Owl of Balance
>Rarity: Silver
>Class: Neutral
>Type: Follower
>4pp 3/3
>Fanfare: If you have 20 or more neutral cards in your deck, gain +2/+2

Are you fucking ready for neutralcraft?
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>>170423996
>4pp 5/5 vanilla

Not impressed, if you want me to run 20 neutrals at least give him ward AND a removal effect on fanfarre.

Go away with your shitty fair card.
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>>170423996
But how would that even work?

The "in your deck" mechanic in OTHER GAME works so that it looks at what you haven't drawn yet rather than the 40 card deck in its entirety. I'd assume this means that if you just run 20/40 neutral cards in your deck as a whole it works even if you drop it when you have 5 cards left in your deck in any specific game.
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>>170423996
>4pp do nothing
It's useless
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>>170423996
5/5 for 4 without an evo, not bad, not sure if worth it but if we get further support it could become a thing
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>>170420114
>more like shitposters vs shitposters
Spamming the same sentence is cancer, par the course of a general
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>Enchanted Blade
>Rarity: Sliver
>Class: Runecraft
>Type: Spell
>Give a friendly follower +2/+2
>Spellboost: Reduce the cost of this card by 1.

Will this make Daria great again?
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I'm powerless... for now...
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>>170423890
>"""fought well""
>actually got completely fucked creamed
sure thing lad
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>>170424191
kill yourself
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>>170424191
It's a 6-7/5 depending on your spear drops. they'd have to nut to crash into him

>>170424341
No. What it is good for though is snowmen
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>>170424341
It's not a minion so no.
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>Owl of BALANCE
>4 pp 7/7
Can't make this shit up
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>>170414576
this list is a heavily opinionated shit and doesn't deserve to be reposted
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>>170424341
Conjuring Force mememen will appreciate this card
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>170424556
deleting kiwi when?
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>losing to shitty fucking trash decks because they keep topdecking hyper specific shit cards that somehow end up being the perfect answer for the current boardstate only
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>>170423764
The point of the post was about every expansion so far.

Haven got a viable deck defining legendary in DE. Rune got a viable deck defining legendary in RoB

Forest got a deck defining legendary in RoB but it's not viable, blood got a decent legendary in DE but it's not exactly strong enough to build a deck around.

A well designed legendary is something you can build a deck around, not just a good card. Haven and Rune both got one of them and the decks that were built around them were both very strong the expansions they were introduced. Wolf and Mary have future potential, but they don't compete with the support that Seraph and Daria had on release.
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>>170424505
The funny thing is that in Shadowverse that actually is balanced or even bad. 4 mana is when you want to be evolving, so an evolve that does nothing then is kind of bad. If you don't want to evolve on 4, or just want to play a 4 body later on it is quite good, though. A slight value play in a game where slight value plays lose you the game, pretty debatable.
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>>170420161
svg is retarded, prepare for tempo rune running it
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>>170424556
Eat shiiiiiiit. Nep is so fucking broken.
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>>170414870
this
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>>170424556
I hope he banished every single one of your Khawys and Mord.
>>
reveal stream starts in two hours
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>>170424717
I'm 12 and what's this?
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>>170414870
The bigger the better, arguably.

The only reason the game doesn't have any girls with huge butts is that they'd be completely broken cards. Reduces damage dealt from the extra padding and whatnot.
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>>170424505
i don't get its text, if you should have 20 neutral cards in your deck overall or in your available deck i.e. minus those on hands and in the graveyard
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Live by the memes, die by the memes
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>>170424349
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>>170424831
she is cute :3
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>>170424830
what are those 7/2 cards?
>>
>>170424657
lmfao shadow confirmed top tier
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>>170425005
Phantom dragon
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>>170424717
Isn't stream at the 15th? Or is this another famitsu one like yesterday's?
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>>170425069
Channeru is on 15th. Shadowverse Academy airs today.
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>atomeme into turn 6 13/13 tyrant
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>>170425161
What's shadowverse academy? Source info?
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Should I keep saving at 2000 rupies for next set if I just started playing 4 or 5 days ago
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>>170425318
No.
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>>170424661
Source image please?
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>>170425318
Na. Open RoB, more vital per pack. Or DE if you have most of the RoB cards.
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new player here. on t4 how do i decide whether to drop a elf and then play a 1point follower or do the opoosite
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>>170425449
U T S U
T
S
U
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>>170425318
Save until the full set is revealed to see if there is anything good for the decks you want to play.

Depends what craft you play as well. Some crafts, like forest, still get most of their cards from standard.
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ancient elf* i meant
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>>170424341
>+2/+2 for one turn until your opponent removes
>7pp
I would rather use one more DoD or demonic strike, you don't really need more defense for your followers. +2 def for entire board would've been better. cause you survive foul tempest or salamander breath. Also oglers or anything better with +2 atk are delicious targets for tsubaki or dods. We already have cheaper keen enchantment.
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>>170425546
tell me, /svg/. why does she have the hole?
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>>170425657
urgent defecation!
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Went full retard and liquefied all my card.
What's a good deck for 18000 vials
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FUCK DRAGONIGGERS AND THEIR INSANE SAHALUCI HEALS
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>mfw I got so many meme deck ideas, but can't craft the needed cards because of the next expansion looming
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>>170425536
>>170425607
Gernerally it doesn't matter whether AE is at 2/3 or 3/4 but some crafts have those ''Evolve: Deal x damage'' followers It would be better to keep the fairy in hand if you are playing against one of those.
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>>170425769
maybe you should ask this before turning all your cards to 1/5 their value
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>>170425780
>Complaining about dragon of all fucking crafts while playing shadow and winning the match
This is some shitty bait
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>>170425813
>mfw I got so many meme decks created because I only get meme cards from packs and my OCD refuses to let me vial any card
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>>170425769
nothing lol
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Somebody please post a Haven list that can actually complete missions in this swamp of Sword cancer.
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>>170425867
not that guy but heals make the game unfun
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>>170426017
fuck off
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>>170424661
>this is an angel's butt
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praise garuda
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>>170426107
kys unga bunga
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>>170426017
>I hit leader very good but leader keep healing
>wards and heals are unfun omgg
I want to punch you.
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Will the Street Fighter leaders released alongside Tempest?
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How the hell can people run pegasus statue in their Elana decks?
The Pleas and Beastcalls dilute Uriels pulls enough already.
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>>170426050
>>170426138
two cancers have spoken
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>>170425536
You want to drop AE at 3, because it much easier to kill it on evolve turns.
Elf fatness usually decided by possible opponent removal options or by your plan to bounce certain cards back.
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>>170426242
Unga?
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fuck shadow mirrors
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>>170426242
Yeah man fuck wards and heals let's all just bend right over for Albert.
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>>170426290
How did you draw 16 more cards than him
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>>170425780
>"Dragon" niggers
>Neutralcraft
>Is playing nep which for 8pp and NO EVO POINT will kill 1 enemies, heal itself, drop 2 5/5 bodies one of which is virtually immortal to 5/7 decks, AND, YES AND, do another 2 effects
>Insane
Fucking kill yourself

>>170426017
You're fucking unfun faggot. You ward, removal and pseudoward out then spam faggots for 3-4 turns to win. What you're so mad about? That's what you do but better
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>>170425883
Hotaru sleeves when, Cygays?
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>>170426371
he was pure control, he had no neps or soul conversions
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>>170426290
Just soulhungry wraith, phantom dragon, shadow reaper, guilty courier, cursed warrior spirit cycle him bro
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>>170425780
>spend 7 mana and have 2 card combo to heal 4
If that's a problem for you, you must auto concede against haven
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>>170425883
I got 4 Soul Dealers, 3 Atomemes, 2 Eidolons of Madness, 2 Breast Dominators, 5(!) Heavencraft Storm Self-healing Bunnies.

I only disenchant the excess ones.
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>dshift is autowin vs control just concede bro
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>>170426480
He had no card draw at all? Strange.
I assume you also had some 2pp card drawing minions and he didn't huh?
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>>170426519
This. Only vital when I have 4 or more. The only card I vital was orb dragon because its complete shit and not even a meme.
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You're ramping in the club when these two dudes walk up and slap your angel gf's butt.
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>Dragon Egg

lol, making the strongest class even better
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>>170426578
Who would've thought any deck can lose against any deck because of shitty draws.
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>>170426578
Seraph vs DShift is basically a race on who can do their wincon faster, isn't it?
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>>170426624
this is my favorite svg post
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>>170426578
>not running petify for this exact reason

Lmao, its also good for bahamut and frontguard
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>>170426242
You fucking pedocuck is why i have fun with my sun satan haha
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Need a concede please
73014
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So I just found the dumbest Daria player I've seen all day. They kept using Kaleidoscopic glow over and over on my sacred plea instead of dropping minions. Meanwhile I was dropping down Elanas preparing to drop a stupid board down.
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>>170426624
ALL THE EGGS
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>>170425172
Dies to Themis Intensifies
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>>170426871
Maybe they didn't have minions? After all if they kept using spells these minions would be free to drop
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>>170426492
>The feeling of absolute joy when you heal 9 health in a single turn. While also popping three amulets at the same time.
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>>170426868
Thanks Forte
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>>170426891
Themis doesn't matter if you're storming them for 13
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>There's no one else I'd rather lose to!
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>>170427004
Wait, what? How do you get enough shadows on turn 6?
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>>170426871
>>170426979
Yes, unless you're in D or C ranks, chances are they just had a brick of a hand. If their hand was like 2 darias 2 piercing runes, aside from the kaleidoscopic glows, what could they do?

Alternatively, they may have been Daria Dshift which may even further explain the bricking. When you end up with a daria and two dshifts in your hand you just keep spamming spells while hoping you don't die.
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>>170427053
New cards famalam
there's a 4 drop that sets your shadows to infinite
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>>170423996
Hello Rowen my old friend.
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what is dragon egg?
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>>170427053
Play that +13 shadow card at turn 5
Atomemeing your own stuff can get you to the 7 shadows needed to get 20 with it pretty easily.
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>>170423996
I will unironically play 100% neutral for dragon whenever I get dragon dailies in the next expansion. It's only fitting anyway.
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Need a concede
41620
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>>170427245
I hate how Midnight Haunt is in DE.
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>>170426979
When they hit turn 4 they dropped two Craigs. On turn one they played insight. Then turn 2-3 they used nothing but Kaleidoscopic glow on sacred plea. But I think the odds of them not having any minions at all with 5-6 cards in hand Is pretty low at turn 2-3.

So I was pretty much spending the entire first half the game dropping elanas back to back and a single amulet for him to bounce back.

Afterwards they pulled Daria and unloaded their entire hand right when I hit turn 6 as havencraft and didn't have any more minions to play afterwards.
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>>170427309
Thanks Luna bro.
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>>170420161
great. now we just need amulet that spellboosts your hand each turn
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>>170427245
And then he wards you because midnight haunt literally screams TYRANT INCOMING.
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>>170427124
If it can survive a turn which it never will. Otherwise it's a t10 combo

>>170427245
Damn didn't think that was possible. It's an extremely unlikely combo though.
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>>170426884
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>>170427548
Atomeme is fine on his own and the list is packed. Polluting your list with Haunt + Tyrant doesn't seem productive, it's purely for maximum meme potential.
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>>170426107
furry
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>>170427548
You don't really need automeme. Skull beast, spartoi soldier and spartoi sergeant all dying will get you 7 shadows.
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>Been like 30 packs since I got a lego.
>Getting weird ass packs like this though.
At this point I'll take another dupe lego.
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>>170427634
Just change Rowen to the smiling madman Rowen and Forte to a sad or upset Forte and it's good.
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>>170427534
>what is ethereal form
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Anyone can link me today's leaks?
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>>170427694
How do you play Ethereal Form + Tyrant on T6 or T7?
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>>170427706
read the op, it's there for a reason
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>>170427668
Don't worry, you will get beast dominator in your next pack.
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>Daria loses to ramp!
>ramp 4 ahead
>still lose to faceburn
I sure like "hard countering" Daria :^)
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>it's a DS shitter tries to BM and decks himself episode

These are my favorite episodes.
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>>170427859
daria only loses to brick
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>>170427772
>have TWO animated beast doms that will never, ever be viable enough to use
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>>170427534
Atomeme usually lives long enough that the opponent has to throw all their resources at him instead of warding
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>>170427908
The worst thing now is we have to guess whether they are actually daria, D Shift, or some shitty D Shift daria that will either kill you through aggression because you thought they were D Shift, or kill you with D Shift because you thought they were Daria
What will Cygames come up with next to make Runecraft even more cancerous?
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What can I replace Tsubaki with in the cancer midrange
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I hope we see some Shadowverse characters in this game
http://gematsu.com/2017/03/six-new-granblue-fantasy-project-re-link-screenshots
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>>170427989
DoD
Fangblade Slayer.
Swordsman
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>>170427694
Another clunky piece of the puzzle that never fucking comes out.

>have Tyrant and shadows and Midnight Haunt
>no Ethereal so have to wait till turn 9 and die
>have ethereal and midnight
>don't have Tyrant and die
>have Tyrant, midnight haunt and Ethereal
>don't have enough shadows and die
>have shadows and Tyrant, midnight haunt and Ethereal
>didn't do enough damage to the opponent to kill him with Tyrant
>have shadows and tyrant and midnight
>opponent wards

I've tried playing tyrant a lot of times. It works maybe 1/10 games. It's just not consistent enough. Roaches can kill you on turn 7-8 consistently as an afterthought while shadow has to throw away its best cards to do less damage overall.
I even tried the ptp into Tyrant but that's even more complicated to pull off.
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Does anyone else get irrationally angry when you see someone playing Rune or Sword?
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I hope we get a good 7-drop as Forest, there isn't anything good at all in this slot.
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>>170427706
4 mana 7/7 for neutralcraft
More broken swordcraft legendary bullshit
Conjuring force memes
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>dragoncraft
>8pp 8/8
>havencraft
>9pp 8/8 that can't die
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>>170427750
So OP sword leggo, Daria spell and meme owl? Haven gets no love again.
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>>170428197
>bronze vs legendary
Nice
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>I'm fine i've outvalued the swordcancer
>drops leonidas

fuck this shit
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>>170428180
No, all I feel is despair
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>>170428234
>8/8 that literally LITERALLY cannot be killed
>no love
meanwhile dragon gets more memes
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>ramp dragon lose to aggro
>lose to khawy and morde
>lose to aegis
>lose to seraph
>lose to dshift
>only can win against daria if they brick

Is there any future at for Dragon at all?
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>>170428180
You make it sound like a rare occurence, rather than the 90% of games it is. You must always be irrationally angry (and yes, we all are).
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>>170428259
Oh shit, I just realized. All this bullshit with Gawain can allow a T8 Leonidas into Albert T9 with Leo-nii's amulet.
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JUST THEMIS BRO TOO BAD YOU ALREADY USED EVERYTHING TO SURVIVE TO THIS POINT
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>>170428258
>still using the rarity argument
feel free to compare lord of the flies with khawy
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>>170428258
>implying rarities matter
Reminder that Khawy is a silver who cockblocks the best 10 mana legendary in the game
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>>170428349
Just bahamut bro
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>>170428319
Stop playing ramp. Seriously.
Storm/Face is much better. Nothing will save you from turn 5 evolve forte, turn 6 evolve forte, turn 7 Genesis dragon.
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>sword can drop leo turn 7

This is not okay.
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>>170428349
The problem there is you not drawing your win condition, not whatever the fuck your opponent is doing.
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>>170428319
No, and I say this as someone who went from beginner to AA2 playing nothing but dragon. It's a "grind more wins than the other guy" meme craft, and Cygames likes this.
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>>170428290
>turn 9
>drop big dude 8/8
>pass
>enemy turn
>albert in your face for 10HP
>lose

Wow, great card.
Now if he could be warded, amazing. But that's not the case.
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>>170428425
>turn 7 genesis dragon
>in any way consistent
If you're going to play face decks, anything but dragon is far better and more consistent
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>>170428425
This. Face dragon is far more tolerable to play after Forest nerf. Stop torturing yourself.
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>>170428234
haven is mixed feelings

aegis is ???? tier

nigger jeanne is having mixed reception, some say the 6pp aoe with a body is worth the buffs to the surviving enemy

the new effect damage immune silver ward seems mediocre and theres one obligatory elana card

no gold cards have been revealed yet
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>tfw shadowed assassin garbage has a better winrate than 48k vial dragon
EGGS WILL SAVE US THO
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>>170428319
Cygames has made it clear Dragon is the designated meme class feat. Neutralcraft
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>>170428180
When I still played dragon I'd get mad at swordfags.

I've just been running Elana now and I've yet to discover what the really bad matchup is apart from getting rekt by control if they have decent draws.
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>>170428591
Aegis is a literal meme, Jeanne 2.0 is better than 1.0 but still very situational.

Let's hope in the golds.

>inb4 4PP spell that halves the cost of your amulets
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>>170428604
What are you talking about
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>>170414576
>Aurelia (was good in control, but mostly ignored nowdays anyway)
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>>170428680
Never work in shadowverse, it's bad enough without you.
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>>170428674
>I've just been running Elana now and I've yet to discover what the really bad matchup is

>many Baha dicks
>dick shift
>rune if your wincon is seraph
>fast aggro
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>>170428674
>I've just been running Elana now and I've yet to discover what the really bad matchup is
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>>170428674
post dicklist
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>tfw sword gets attackboostable commanders in a all in one package coupled with the obligatory rush so you don't have to waste your precious Albert evo points

Were it ANY other craft this would've been an on evolve effect or just on attack without the ability to gain rush.
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So a Gawain centered play will be commander ramp dick?
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>>170428749
But I have great ideas:

Rune 2PP spell: deal 10 damage to your leader, spellboost your hand 10 times.
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>>170428349
2 Leonidas
Dude
2 Leonidas
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>bloodhungry matriarch in aggro bats
Is this a thing, or did I get memed on?
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>>170428763
Can you stop crying? Holy shit shut the fuck up
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>>170428816
Meme.
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>>170428850
Spotted the swordfag.
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>>170428850
You HAVE to go back, swordshitter
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>>170428756
>>170428759
All I fucking face is aggro and sword so it's been working out well so far.
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STREAM STARTS IN TEN MINUTES

GET HYPE

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv291839859
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>>170428808
I wonder who could be behind this post..
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All-Commander decks soon, brothers
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where's my rin shibuya alt leader cygays
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Charlotte or momma's boy for sword 8 drop?
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>>170428763
Sword literally doesn't care about any of the new cards so far.
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>>170428349
Should have saved those banishes for leonidas :^)
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Why is Gawain 3/4 for 4PP?
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>>170428850
You have to go back
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>>170428964
Shove that real magic up your mingehole and out your throat you fucking splongegobbler
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>>170429018
Because mouthbreather is a 4/3 for 4 already
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>>170428961
It is on other sites like twitch or openrec? Eventually free users will get booted for premium users.
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>>170429006
>/svg/ armchair analyst opinion

But then you wouldn't, because it fucks your precious Albert pulls.
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>gawain can enable cursed shadowed general
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>>170428964
It's me, Ogler!
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>>170414580
>tfw this is a combofags dream
My dick is max erect right now
I'm probably gonna spend a good week in the lab trying to make stupid combos work
>2cost Leo
>Urd
>Urd
>Alberto
>Alberto
18, can make it 20 with evo
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i wish all the sword player would fuck off back to HS

>ooga booga me play aggro me go storm
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>>170429018
Why wouldn't it be?
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>>170428961
are they gonna reveal new cards?
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>>170428980
I'm not a fan of idols but at least they are redesigned to fit in the setting and have an artstyle that fits. Those Street Fighter leader we're getting look retarded.
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QUIZ TIME:
Which is the correct target for Temptress in this scenario?
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>>170428189
1/1
Fanfare: Change an enemy followers attack to 4. All enemy followers in play lose the ability to attack next turn. Increases cost of the enemy cards by 3 for the next two turns.
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>>170429165
Yes, and the new promo video.
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>>170429158
>hating the most honest craft in the game

Kys.
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>>170429018
The real question is why does he get full stats on evolve with an evolve effect as a 4 drop
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12485835 Poll time
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>>170429234
because he doesnt have an evolve effect
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>>170429203
>bane
>bane
>bane
>10 damage to face
>"honest"
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>>170429203
if what mean "honest" is braindead me play follower me go face then sure

fuck off back to HS nigger
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>>170429234
It's assumed that was a mistranslation and he doesn't have evolve effect.
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>>170429281
post rank
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>100% of revealed dragon cards are memes
Rowen is suffering
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>>170429282
If he doesn't have an evolve effect, then it's not a mistranslation but the Korean source was straight up wrong.
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>>170429185
>Max health
>All these good cards in hand
I don't think I'd play Temptress here
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>people actually complaining about a shitty merlin that doesn't even tutor cards


Are you guys retarded?
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>>170429364
Tell me what you'd do.
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>>170429324
top 30 master pic related why do you ask
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>>170429381
>shitty merlin
THIS IS WHAT SWORDFAGS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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>>170429335
Zell is decent
Lets you storm at 3-5pp to cover the gap between Maelstrom and Forte
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>>170429409
Satan
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>>170429409
Not him, but i'm just gonna summon Satan's Servant and Healing Angel.
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>>170429257
>>170429282
If he evolves he gets to have his enhance effect prematurely.
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>>170429335
When I saw the new cards I went back and looked at what other sets gave us, and this big fat NOTHING is actually in line with the past. The legends we got in DE: FLUTE. The legends we got in RoB: IMPERIAL DISCARDAROON. Dragon is a trash craft, but it's always been a trash craft, it's our fault for not listening to Cygames before.
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>>170429381
people will complain about every fucking sword card, even if it actually caters to slower decks like this one
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>>170428319
>lose to aggro
Yes, unless you get a good curve going first it's a hard matchup

>lose to Khawys and Morde
This matchup improves if you use Satan as a finisher, still pretty one-sided though.

>lose to Seraph
No, unless you never draw Odin it's a fairly even matchup. And you have a lot of extra time to ramp and draw cards due to low pressure from Seraph decks.

>lose to aegis
Saying this is retarded considering we see like how many cards in the set. Either way even though Aegis is like Morde, Morde isn't why dragon loses that matchup, it's Khawys that is the problem.

>lose to d-shift
Another game where you have low pressure and can ramp and drop big cards. Depends on how they hit their removal to determine whether they win or not.

>only can win against daria if they brick
No, Daria is not a bad matchup against dragon since you can heal through the burn and clear their board. Look at Dragon win-rate versus Rune on shadowlog if you don't believe me

Dragon is still pretty decent against blood and forest decks as well. It's biggest problem is fucking swordcraft and it's retarded unga storm shit every turn and shadow with it's khawys degeneracy.

But Sword is a fucking problem for every craft right now. It's worse than rune and forest ever were this expansion.
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>>170429439
Except his storm-giving doesnt work until 7pp
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>>170429186
That's brutal. I like it.
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>>170429489
>make albert come out quicker
>"slow"
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>>170428961
how the fuck do i enable my flash player?
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Do you use any program or site to track your games?
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>>170429203
If by honest you mean completely braindead without any special mechanic going for it because it's too complicated for the average swordfag, then yes, it's honest.
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>>170429541
>make albert come out quicker

you're fucking retarded

First of all it's a 4 drop so albert still comes out on turn 5, then it doesn't change the enhance cost

you fucking retard, delete your idiotic post
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>>170427418
>Then turn 2-3 they used nothing but Kaleidoscopic glow on sacred plea.
Because he didn't have minions to spellboost Daria. He chose to draw her by using kaleidos, nothing's wrong here. And then her dropped craigs after he got his daria to spellboost her.
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>>170429447
>>170429440
Congratulations. He now plays Deathly Tyrant and wins.

I won the game about 2 turns later. He didn't actually have Tyrant but he had such a shadow heavy deck that I couldn't help but play around it.

Fun fact: He played Lurching as his final card from his hand and evolved it into an attack on my Goblinmount, I assume thinking it would kill itself and pop it.
When it didn't, I Odin'd it for BM and he conceded.
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>>170429603
>I only have 1 albert, the post
>I can't combo albert with other cards with reduced cost
???
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What would you change? Metal gargoyle is pretty good vs the sword cancer.
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>>170429381
But every sword lego literally breaks the game. Using it on turn 4 or 5 for evolve is pretty mediocre right now. Floral Fencer is better for turn 4 and 5 has other choices too. The enhance effect is pretty strong since it's basically a better Jeno but it's only good for control decks. The card seems interesting but it doesn't seem too strong right now. Right now the best thing is that you can play Albert with other cards easier in turns 5+ if you subtract him.
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>>170429620
>make albert come out quicker
>make albert come out quicker
>make albert come out quicker


fucking retard don't backpedal now
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>Otohime fills up the board with shitty 1/2s that do nothing and leaves you no room to do anything else that turn
Why the fuck is that a legendary?
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>>170429439
>Zell
What
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>>170429706
MEMES
IN
THE
SKY
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>>170429630
swap dark general for gobu
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>>170429706
Because it used to be the only class that could put out a bunch of followers at once.
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>>170429678
Yeah, as in multiple alberts. You know, how you win the game? The only retard here is you.
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>>170429653
>second
>T4 Gawain evo
>T5 Otohime
>T6 Sage/Otohime if they clear

Being able to use Otohime on T5 instead of T6 is a big difference. If we learned anything with RoB, it's that T5 board floods are pretty hard to handle.
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>>170429706
Because Sage Commander and because it would actually survive in pre-Removalverse era.
Nos shadow gets Otohimeme 2.0 for an stupid amount of shadows.
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This boy is one handsum fucker (lol
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>>170429706
It also used to be very hard to clear that many followers at once.
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>tfw have 22 unused t2 tickets
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>>170429807
>t5 floods
>a turn before themis
>a turn before calamity
>a turn before salamander

I think you meant turn 4 Dorothy board floods.
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>>170429797
>Yeah, as in multiple alberts.

You antiswordfags are fucking pathetic
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>>170429523
Wow I hadn't noticed that
Fucking hell Cygames would it kill you to give Dragon one fucking useable card

OVERFLOW SHOULD GIVE ME BONUSES, NOT BEING A FUCKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE CARDS TO WORK
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>>170429706
>Otohime was the most broken lego in the game
>now its trash
Interesting how things change without any modifications to the card itself
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>>170429738
Isn't gobu shit now after the nerf?
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>>170429884
Here is a take 2 guide. You know what to do now.
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>>170429807
That's only useful going 2nd and Otohime will still die to Lion Spirit and Salamander Breath the next turn if the opponent has it. The Dorothy flood works because Gazers are immune to those things along with Blade Mage turning into a 1 cost storm.
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>>170429943
Not in that deck
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>>170429896
Overflow and Vengeance, sitting in a tree, S-U-C-K-I-N-G.
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>>170429964
I do this all the time, it's pretty good.
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>>170429893
Yes, it's weaker but it's much more consistent than Daria. There's a reason why Daria has lower winrates than Midrange Sword. Don't forget that if they board clear your Otohime you will have the tempo advantage and you probably have other commanders with 1 less cost.
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>원탁의 기사 가웨인’은 비용4 추종자로 ‘로얄’ 직업 전용 전설 카드다. 병종은 ‘병사’로 분류된다. 공격력3, 체력4라는 평범한 능력치를 가졌지만 이 카드는 진화 또는 강화 시 공격할 때마다 플레이어 손 안 지휘관 카드의 비용을 1씩 감소시키는 특수 능력이 생긴다.

Reminder that the sword legend gives -2, because it reduces on attack and evo. T5 Frontguard, this is the future you choose.
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KEKED
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>>170430048
It doesn't reduce cost on evo you fucking retard.
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who are these fags on the stream?

>>170430048
>korean
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>>170429978
>>170429893
They wasted a board clear for 1 card. And they didn't develop their board.

T6 Otohime is bad right now because they can use the T4 to clear and the T5 to develop a board. Which means that if you get your Otohime cleared on T6, they will have a huge tempo lead whereas on T5 it's no big deal. It's the difference between using a DoD when your board is empty, and when your board has followers.
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>Have 18 HP.
>Get OTK'd by roach doing exactly 18 damage.
>Had the means to heal myself back to 20 but thought "THERE'S NO WAY HE'LL ALREADY HAVE ALL THE CARDS HE NEEDS"
Kill me.
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>>170430018
>theres a reason why Daria has lower winrates than Midrange Sword

That reason being that decks have been specialized against it for 3 months
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>>170430136
>THERE'S NO WAY HE'LL ALREADY HAVE ALL THE CARDS HE NEEDS
Why would you think that?
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>>170430094
It literally says it does.
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23564

Need a win, boys and girls
Can be a concede or can be passing for the 100 gold, whichever you have the time for
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>>170430136
What turn?
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>>170429990
IT'S NOT FUCKING FUNNY

I DIDN'T SEE ZELL NEEDED OVERFLOW

I WAS ALREADY THEORYCRAFTING MY NEW STORM DECK AND LOOKING AT WHICH CARD HE'D COMBO WELL WITH DEPENDING ON MY PP AMOUNT

IT'S NOT EVEN LIKE THE EFFECT WOULD BE BROKEN BEFORE OVERFLOW BECAUSE IT MEANS YOU'D USE IT ON WEAKER FOLLOWERS
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>>170430048
>this card
>Albert
>Lucifer

My deck is gonna be FULL of husbandos
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>>170430181
>>170430228
This was turn 10 exactly and he'd played cards every turn up to there without any bounceback stuff like Ancient Elf.
In future games, I guess I will strive to literally never lose HP against Elf.
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>>170430234
You actually thought dragon would get a good card, lmao
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>>170430234
I DISAGREE ANON, IT'S HILARIOUS ONCE YOU EMBRACE THE SADO-MASOCHISM THAT IS A DRAGONCRAFT PLAYERS BIRTHRIGHT
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>>170430214
Thank you, anon
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>>170430018
The reason why "midrange" sword has higher winrate is because every single piece of shit card has either storm or rush so it doesn't matter if you remove them because they've served their purpose.
If gazers and Dorothy had storm or at least rush, Dorothy would be unbeatable.
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>>170412051
>this tourney doesn't look fair imo, from its table it seems people had to play different number of games, the winner even won less matches in a row than the guy on the second place

That's because it was double elimination.
Think about it like this: If it was single elimination, all the guys from losers bracket would be out of the tourney already with their first loss.

Double elim ensures you get to play at least two matches before you're out. And the earlier you lose your first match, the longer your road to top4/top8 will be. That's just the nature of this format.

For fairness we could do round-robin style tournaments as well. those are supposed to be more more telling of actual strength, also everyone gets to play each other. (also resulting in more games/rounds though)

On another note, repostan poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/12485732/r
For those who don't know, i will host another tourney on the weekends. details are still being decided.
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>>170430271
>>170430234
Yeah, that's pretty funny actually.

Overflow and vengeance are such awesome class mechanics
>Halfway kill yourself to be able to do something
>Opponent combos you down the next turn

>Have to be at 7 PP to do something
>Be dead by the time you do reach overflow as the third Albert is revving up his sabers
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>>170430304
I want to rape Vampy-chan
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>>170430127
The potential of turn 5 Otohime really doesn't matter much because it's still a going 2nd only move that requires you to have both cards. Dragon doesn't care about developing a board and the only Bishop deck that cares about a strong board uses amulets to do that. Being able to do Otohime into Otohime a turn earlier won't change much except against decks that have a hard time dealing with her anyway.
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>>170430252
Keep track of their 0-cost cards to gauge their burst damage. On turn 10, they can do 17 damage out of hand with 2 roaches, 3 fairies and 1 guidance, that's easily achievable. If they have a Fairy circle and 1 0-cost, that's 20 burst damage without evo.
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Is this an ok build for wolfbolt or I'm toast against aggro/mid/control sword?

I'm just sticking Feena so she can shit a free card when evolved and carrot of eternal value so I can keep chucking something and pad my hand.
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>Going through my missions looking for ez gold.
>Notice this.
WISH ME LUCK LADS.
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>>170430252
If you're taking longer than 7-8 turns to kill them, you have to have full health or be able to shit out wards every turn to be safe.
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>>170430423
I think Tia is necessary in any Forest that tries to go beyond turn 8
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>>170430423
>gourmet emperor
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>>170430234
>Thinking Dragon would get a good card
HE PLAYS DRAGON AND STILL HASN'T BECOME A MADMAN
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CSwordbros, do you still use Aurelia?
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>Storm Sword
>All your Storm cards have Storm right away

>Storm Dragon
>None of your cards have Storm unless you're in overflow
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>>170430354
They added 2 different cards that can buff your board in the exp (Walfrid + Luminous Mage), I'd be surprised if Otohime shenanigens don't become meta again. We'll see soon enough anyway.
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>>170430521
carrot is very good in forest, I use it in my roach deck too, against Dragon u can even use them as a win condition by bouncing the emperor
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>>170430470
Ganbare anon-kun!!
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>>170430531
it's instawin against blood lots of the times so yeah
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>>170430536
F-Forte has storm and can be played on turn 6...
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>>170430094
I asked a korean friend and she told me it's evolve and attack. unless this translation is not official, the guy is right
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>>170430531
Yes. Why wouldn't you?
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>>170430531
Yes
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>>170416736
>>170414868
>>170414879
>>170414580

Ure all thinking small

Evolve turn 4 AND 5 and you will have a turn 6 with 3 Aureli-sabers and 2 levinsabers, against anyone without a massive turn 6 clear (themis) then its auto-loss for them.
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how do people calculate roach lethal so fast im always amazed when i watch streams and shit while when i do it myself the clock ticks down
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>>170430563
>against Dragon u can even use them as a win condition

why not just roach them to death on turn 7?
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>>170429848
>enemy is at full health the entire game
>2 alberts later he's at 4
What a fun card
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>opened animated EPM

Sure is pretty
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>>170430531
yes
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>>170430609
Remember when Forte's "cannot be attacked" trait actually did anything? M-me neither...
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>>170430614
So an evolved non-enhanced Gawain grants -2 cost?

Damn, those KR reveals are so annoying, we have to struggle to know exactly what the card does. The same thing happened with Dark Jeanne, it's so frustrating.
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>>170430640
practice
after a while you just know without calculating actually
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>>170430641
because its not so easy anymore since you cant poke them early
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>>170430680
>Dark Jeanne

Whoa, she's in SV?
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>>170430680
Yeah, provided that text is legit. it should be both -1 on attack AND evo, which is probably what he was saying with turn 5 frontguard
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>turn 1 quickblader
>turn 2 lancer
>turn 3 blitz/novice
>turn 4 jeno if go first, gawain if go 2nd
>turn 5 rush/storm
>turn 6 rush/storm
>turn 7 rush/storm
>turn 8 rush/storm
>turn 9 albert hit face twice and you're dead

All sword need is 2/2 2pp rush or 2/1 2pp storm. Do it Cygames.
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>>170430640
Practice. When you're used to the combos and their potential damage, it's easier.
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>>170430758
It's really funny the examples are 20 damage vs. 21 damage.

It's not like they both don't just fucking kill you from full HP.

That deck was, and still is, fucking retarded.
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>>170430732
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>>170430742
So the T7 leonidas dream is real, disgusting.
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>play unga bunga
>go 2nd 5times in a row

nice meme
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>>170430561
I think Gawain has more potential with other cards over Otohime honestly. One turn earlier Frontguard can be pretty good along with cost reducing cards like Amelia, Aurelia, and Albert of course. I hope I pull him so I can test to see if Otohime has any life left though.
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>>170430834
>not wanting to go 2nd with perfect curve
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>>170430828
Now i have a reason to use Havencraft.
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>>170430836
Pic related, it's me. I want to see the fishies dance again.
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>>170430609
>6pp Storm Dragon
>5/1 Storm
>Can't be attacked, but only in Overflow

>6pp Storm Sword
>3/2 Storm + 2/3 Ward
>4 more stats, Ward has no conditional
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>>170430830
>turn 5 Otomeme into Turn 6 Walfrid dream might be real
Ayy
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>>170430836
Amelia is done with floral fencers, Jeno and Gawain all on 4 pp
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>>170430914
>we don't play sword here at cygames, h-honest
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>>170430914
But you can Ramp so you play it earlier, Forte!
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Can someone post oppai Luna
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>>170431001
>give up your first few turns to ramp
>spend the turns ahead just trying to recover the board
>lose anyway
Ramp is a disadvantage at this point
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>>170431039
DELET THIS
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>>170430758
thx for the table , i was actually looking for something like that
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>My mobile version of SV now crashes literally every time I enter a match
Nice "mobile" game, shadowbabs
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>sword lego apparently also fucking works on evolve
>3 cost alberts and aurelias.
>7 cost Leonidas
>and that's just playing 1 of them

Jesus fucking christ Cygames what are you doing. Has Dorothy taught you nothing?
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24192
May I have a concede?
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>>170431094
>apparently also fucking works on evolve

stop lying, we confirmed it doesn't
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>>170431094
T-the translations just wrong there's no way Cygames would make a sword card that op r-right?
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>>170431104
tyvm vampy!
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Turn 7 lethal feels so good, I can feel their PTSD triggering
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>>170431094
while it might be broken in paper, it's not like sword has a lot of card draw unlike daria which basically allows them to throw away their cards regardless if you have clear. If you somehow survive the dump, they have no ability to recover. Early frontline is going to be hard to deal with though
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>>170430564
WISH ME MORE LUCK. HARDER. SO FAR I'VE HAD THE OPPOSITE.
UNGA SWORD AND MY HAND WAS TRASH.
FACE DRAGON THAT TOPDECKS LETHAL WHILE OTHERWISE RUNNING OUT OF STEAM.
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>tfw good deck in Arena

I-I'm scared I'm going to fuck up with it now
I prefer playing shitty decks since they can suprise me
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49360
concede pls
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>>170431094
did you bother to read the fucking text? it's a clash effect which that card gets either if it was played enhanced or after evolve
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>>170431180
does Cost reduction work on enhance? Or is enhanced albert always 9?
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>>170430834
it's actually 10 times now, is this a fucking joke
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>>170431001
I assume this is what Cygames think but it doesn't work
While you're busy ramping, Sword can set up board and attack
You can play your big cards earlier, but the problem is that you're still only allowed one big cards per turn because of the 10pp limit. So once you've ramped, you recover from what the opponent was doing while you were ramping, then they catch up to you in pps. From then one they win the game because for the same PPs their card does more than yours.
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26639

need a concede
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>>170431238
>2 Alberts
>TWO Alberts
>Bahamut
What the fuck man
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>>170431094
>not maining man realm(Sword and Rune) since launch
Bahahaha baka anon
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>>170431238
>2 Albert
>1 Bahamut

are you fucking kidding me?
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>>170431261
So basiaclly still 2 reduction unless you want to use removal, have no board and get 5/7 Albert to the face next turn.
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>>170431238
Nice constructed deck famalam
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>>170418418
cute!
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>>170431271
albert will always be 9 cost when enhanced. Gawain looks better for csword rather than mid or unga
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>>170431291
thank you
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what does "mananozoni" mean?
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>>170431292
Exactly
The early game for it is a bit weak and I only have Cyclone blade as a comeback mechanism before which gives me a concern

>>170431319
I will still manage to fuck up and brick it somehow, just you wait and see
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>>170431289
Yeah, I play Dragon or at least I like to pretend I play dragon while playing other decks because losing gets dull before long.

You'd need a high impact card that'd let you get the board back. I imagine conflagration is what they had in mind. You'd ramp to 7, clear the board with conflag, and then start slamming down big minion after big minion.

It just never works because our bad match-ups don't work like that. Sure, if you wipe an unga board on turn 7 without being one and a half feet in the grave, you're usually alright. However, decks like sword and shadow don't give a shit about 4 damage to board. Sword will just slam another storm into your face the next turn because you were unable to play anything onto the board that turn, and at best you'll just be looking at a lich or two after doing that to shadow.

Maybe if we had board clear that banishes everything AND sets up a 0/8 ward fucking wall between Dragoncountry and Albertico, it'd work.
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NEW CARD REVEALS STARTING IN 10 MINUTES
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>>170431247
pls am on phone
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Gawain can allow a 2PP Commander to be 0PP. What does it mean? Turn 5 Cyclone Blade for 4 is available to Sword. Think about it.
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>>170431318
>man realm
girl leaders
man realm

pshaw!
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>Instinctively mulligan away my Odin.
>I'm against Haven.
>They play Prism Priestess.
not like this
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>>170431289
>>170431424
Blame DoD. GMD actually used to buy you a turn before every aggro and midrange deck started using it.
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>>170431435
where?
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>>170430423
Not so toast since you got some 1 drops, but still toast because slowbolt. This list lacks card draw, hard removals and maybe bit too much evolve followers for this kind of deck.
>>170430501
Tia consumes hand and 0costers, dies to some aoe. I think shes really great overall, but not necessity.
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>>170431497
Prism is a card that can be played in any Haven deck, yes even Storm, it doesn't mean anything at all.
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How do I stop playing unga bunga until I get to master and start playing a deck I actually enjoy?
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I won't ever ask again I can't find it anywhere, oppai Luna
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Wow all these bleeding vaginas crying
Never seen such a bunch of slack jawed faggots
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>>170431503

implying execution that also kills amulets isn't from the standard pack
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>>170431549
>Turn 7 right now.
>They've not played Elana/Sun Meme/Storm Amulets/cards.
NOT LIKE THIS.
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Yep
The lack of card draw kills the deck
You can have Baha and two alberts but they aren't worth shit if you can never draw them
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>>170431613
rip
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>>170431583
Nobody used that card though.
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>>170431636
just stratagem lmao
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>>170431673
>>170431613
Odin I'm sorry, I didn't mean to mulligan you.
I lost.
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>>170431636
Story of my life in T2 as Dragon.

You get good minions and decent ramp but no card draw. Then you're just sitting there at 10 pp slamming down Luxfang Kits and one game you're like "oh wow I didn't even remember I had a bahamut in this deck" when you see it in your starting hand.
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>>170431583

Execution doesn't slap you for 2.

>>170431435

Please post here, dude. I will try to translate on phone.
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>>170431470
RoB man realm, famalam. The blue sword and shield insignia. Much of the cards that make up Sword and Rune are man realm
>>
NEW CARDS NOW
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47296 (Bakery)

Need some friends please! 4/20
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>>170431775
>unironically LIKING cancer, not just playing it to win
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>>170430914
+2 attack on a storm unit >>>> +4 def
Especially when most of that def is on another unit
>>
What's the most current aggro sword deck?
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>>170431731
>Play 5 games in T2
>Remebered I had Bahamut or Olivia but literally never drew them
Every fucking time, the worst part is seeing that shit card that ends up in your hand in all games
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>>170431729
>Seraph is an honest deck just Odin it bro
>only shadowfags hate honest chemocraft because gorrilion something something
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>>170431880
I'm sorry, are you seriously arguing Forte is better than Alwida? Are you fucking insane?
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>>170431949
>complaining about Awilda when Forte/Urd does 12 face damage

Is there any card that people don't complain about?
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>>170432028
You can't find room to use Forte/Urd combo in the current meta. That's why storm ramp went away and was replaced by a decklist that is just full of heals, taunts, and early game contesting. At least play the craft before you complain about things that aren't even used anymore.
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GAHHH STOP PLAYING ON STREAM AND REVEAL THE CARDS ALREADY AHHHH
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Thanks to the Vampy! I think I disconnected on you a couple hours ago when my net died. Sorry about that.

47296 (Bakery)

6/20

Also thanks Luna
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>>170432081
Storm is still decent but people just don't play it because they want to copy inconsistent decks they see in tournament.
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>>170432086
DELET
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170418873
>animated Gobu

I'm jealous!
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>>170431152
confirmed where dude? because so far I only saw the some guy say he asked a korean friend about the translation and have them come up with it for us, show your "proof" or fuck off
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Unranked has all the memes
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>>170432194
I play storm ramp. That's why I'm telling you Forte is much worse than Alwida on the ladder. It is a dead card in most situations. The combo is nice, but really only sees use against other dragon mirrors. 90% of time you're being pressured and trying to throw forte out will just lead to you dying next turn. If it doesn't, it will absolutely be removed 100% of the time anyway. So the only thing it DOES have is the out of hand combo. It is only usable when the opponent is at 10 health, then. So it's a 2 card Albert.

Meanwhile, alwida is flexible. You can use it to defend or attack. If attacking, there's a fair chance the taunt will let the storm get in more than one turn's worth of damage. It's just plain better. If "cannot attack" as a trait meant anything in this meta, I'd agree with you, but it doesn't.
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>>170432306
kys swordfaggot
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>>170431924
>Every fucking time, the worst part is seeing that shit card that ends up in your hand in all games
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

>Have to pick between 2 bad cards and one amazing card and one shit card
>Pick the latter because it's not like you'll see it all that often in Take Two
>It sits in your hand 3 games out of 5 since turn 2
>Never see those legendaries
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>170432306
>shitter actually proud of laying down minions and dragging them to opponents face
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>>170432306
Post rank.
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Got kicked out of the stream, is there a mirror somewhere?
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>>170432496
WHITO PIGGU GO HOMU
>>
fucking niconico cancer shit kicking people
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Oh hey
Another loss

If only one of the three broken legendaries I have that win the game by themselves would be kind enough to show up
Alas
They are very comfortable there at the bottom of the deck
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>>170432756
why the hell are you running carrot in what i assume is Csword?
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>>170429203

Honest is boring and promotes straight forward play without thinking.
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>>170432343
I get your point about flexibility and I agree with it but listen to yourself:
>fair chance the taunt will let the storm get in more than one turn's worth of damage
>better than "cannot attack"
How is ward a better def for your storm unit than "cannot attack"?
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>>170432756
Oh, NOW you show up
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>>170432816
Sword, just like Blood, has issues filling out their PP
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>>170432823
The ward protects from creatures. If you evolve the pirate, it is at 4 health, out of range of most 1-3 health nukes. Forte unevolved dies to the slightest ping, evolved she still dies to crimson sorcery and its ilk (which wouldn't kill pirate). That's a small sidenote, the real reason I consider alwida more useful as a control player is that flexibility, the fact that you're getting 2 for one in a single card.
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>>170432756
>Complaining about Sword
>Complaining about Sword while losing a dragon deck running fucking disaster dragon
Oh I'm laffin.

Is this D1?
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>>170432816
It's Take Two
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>>170431852
>e-sportfag
For fun and your heart is the best way to play, Daria-sensei is a good lady
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>>170432903
I disagree. Csword has good cards to play on curve for every amount of PP. If you need a filler card like carrot you likely built your deck wrong.
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>>170432889

>3pp 2/3
>enhance (6) Gain +3/+3

At least Fighter doesn't get dicked again.
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>>170432956
He's playing take two.
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>>170432956
He's playing t2.
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>>170432889
>>170432892

translate it weebs
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>>170432956
>can't tell its t2
Beginner 3?
>>
>>170432889
>>170432892
WEEEEEEBS DO YOUR JOB
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>>170432987
TRANSLATE IT NOW WEEBS
>>
Fairy butler seems nice but not in roach
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Would you
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>>170432956
>>170432985
>>170432756
Oh, right, it's that anon.

I'm sorry but all the back and forth whining about sword threw me off to the point where I thought you were being salty about not drawing Alberts and the "three broken legendaries I have that win the game by themselves" was supposed to be an ironic jab at people complaining about Albert.

Rip, anon.
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>>170432889
>>170432892

Enhance : get +3/+3

That's it
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>>170432987
>>170432998
Tempest of the Shotas confirmed
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>>170432987

Ward
Whenever you play a follower with at least 6 play point, subtract 3 from this follower's cost

Forest
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>>170433034
Neural memes
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>>170432998
>Elf boy butler
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>>170433047
I'd lovingly scruffle this adorable horsegirl's fringe
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>>170432987
>>170432998
>>170433106

Forestcraft follower with at least 6 play point.

It's shit.
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>>170433073
You know the funniest part?

Both losses were to dragon because it went to lategame.
In both losses I only had 10 cards left in the deck by the end, and in both losses I have not seen either albert or Baha.
This deck really was a one trick pony
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>>170433182
NEW DRAGON LEGENDARY
TRANSLATE please pleas
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>>170433227
Its blood, tard

Also bad card
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>>170432998
>finally a butler
>it's a forest card
Lmao at swordcucks
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>>170433182
This shit better be good
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>>170433182
Bell-chan!
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>>170433227
it's shit or meme
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>>170433182
>>170433194
here's your fucking vengeance activator your bloodcucks
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>>170433182
>>170433194

Vampire
Fanfare: Draw 2 cards. Change your defense to 10 if Vengeance is not active for you.
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Thanks to the previous swordbro.
Please fite me so I have the rupees to buy these fantastic new cards being revealed.
47296 (Bakery)
6/20
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>>170433194
blood
4/4
fanfare draw 2 cards
if you're not in vengeance damage your leader hp until it becomes 10
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>>170432453
a1
>>
>Cygames forcing us to put more and more boys in our decks every expansion
>Game also getting worse with each new expansion

Coincidence?
>>
>>170433182
Fanfare
Draw 2 cards
If not in vengeance then damage your leader until you have 10 hp
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>>170433297
>For what purpose?, the card
>>
>>170433297
>kill yourself the card
Ayy lmao
>>
>>170433297
>>170433323
I'm dying, at least there's the ebin bloody mary turn 9 combo.
>>
>Soul dealer without ward
Blood is saved!
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Play bad, get rewarde
The other pack had Merlin too

T-Thanks Take Two
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>>170433297
They should just fucking delete Bloodcraft already holy fucking shit. Why in the fucking world would you want to put your hp down to fucking 10 on turn 4??????????????
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>>170433194
when will they stop making shit cards for blood/

>>170433317
>Please fite me

i have read it as "please, fill me" :3
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>>170433297
>4PP kill urself

Lmao
>>
>4pp 4/4 draw 2 cards
>bad

/svg/ everyone..........
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>>170433342
>This plus blood mary

T9 0TK for CBlood
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This has been going better than I expected for a self made deck.
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>blood
>dragon
>good
Aegis Elana, Albert sword and Daria rune will be supreme. With some forest and shadow, here and there
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>>170433402
>zero animated cards
trash pack
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>>170433182
>>170433194

This is literally your blood lego in other lore.
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>>170433194
>>170433182
>deal 10 damage to your leader
>treated as a benefit
>does the same thing another legendary already fucking does

You literally can't make this shit up guys

>No Urias wojak edits
>>
Yeah, just let that turn 5 Albert murder you more easily.
>>
>>170433442
You mean mill 2 cards.
>>
>>170433342
>>170433323
>>170433297
Just to add, her name is Belphegor.
>>
>>170433442
>Turn 4 draw 2
>Turn 5 get Albert to the face and killed the whatever board sword has left
Great leggo there cygames.
>>
>>170433458
>Aegis Elana
Only in your fever induced nightmares, shadowcuck
>>
>>170433445
implying you are at 20hp on turn 9
>>
>>170433442
Draw 2 is great, stats are good, killing your leader is bad.
>>
>>170433297
I'm losing my shit here.

It's fucking over. The devs don't even play their own game if they're actually printing cards like this when the meta is like this. I no longer have any hope for Dragon either seeing as they have no idea what the fuck they're doing.

Here, drop your HP down to 10 for Albert-sama so futameido doesn't have to bother hitting your ugly face with anything else and you can move onto the next loss a bit faster.
>>
>>170433543
With CBlood you are
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>>170433464
I did have a pack that was exclusively aniamted cards some time back
>>
>>170433442
>needing this when you have direbond and bloodpact
Killing yoursef is fucking awful compared to the clearly better options
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OH BOY ANOTHER BLOOD CARD TO KILL MYSELF?

THANKS CYGAMES.
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Oh shit
I got Zeus in Take Two
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>>170433342
GUYS
GUYS
GUYS
This is the real card.
That's an OTK with Bloody Mary guaranteed. If you are protected by Bloody Mary, the card will never stop damaging you, because Vampire will damage your opponent. It's a 2-card guaranteed OTK on T9.
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>>170433450
Post deck?
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>>170433607
>>170433567
Unlike Bond and Pact, it sets you to vengeance. Means you can use Devil and Diabolic Draon next turn. It doesn't have any downside when you're in vengeance too.
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>he still plays dragon/blood in 2017
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>>170433732
that's not how it works dumbass, it'll just damage your opponent equal to the difference between your current hp and 10
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>>170433182
>Cygames literally telling blood players to kill themselves
My sides have left the earth, sorry Blood and Dragon fags
>>
>>170433182
Dire Bond, a fucking standard gold card is still better than this piece of shit.

WTF ARE YOU DOING CYGAMES?!
>>
>>170433860
The best dragon cards are also standards.
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>>170433732
>completely unstoppable 2 card autowin
If it did work that way then it would be broken beyond belief.

If it doesn't then it's par for course with the absolute terrible blood legendaries.

One of these scenarios is way more realistic.
>>
>>170432889
>>170432987
Axe Fighter
2/3 3pp
Enhance 6, gain +3/+3

Elf Butler, Vist
Ward 2/5 4pp
If you play follower who cost 6pp or more, reduce this card card by 3.
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>first cygames gives a better bloody mary to shadow
>then they release a lego that literally tells blood players to kill themselves
my sides
>>
New thread
>>170433949
>>170433949
>>170433949
>>170433949
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This is why I hate Shadow in T2
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>>170433732
If it works that way is amazing, but i doubt it
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>>170433182
>>170433297
Cygames are only fucking with bloodkin at this point
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>>170433985
I still manage to lose to shadow every time
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>>170433751
Still quite experimental
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>>170433297
>blood is shit because all good effects are locked behind vengeance
>here's a card that instantly activates vengeance
>waaah, it's shit, post memes
Never change, /svg/.
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>>170433297
There's your early vengeance enabler bloodbros, h-heh.
>>
>>170434051
>blood is shit because all good effects are locked behind vengeance
Correct, but that's because vengeance in itself is shit. In a game where the max HP is 20 and there are various ways of doing 10 damage from hand in one turn in the lategame, having to teeter on 10 HP is a huge liability.

>Just drop wards dude
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>>170434051
That just means vengance is a shit mechanic which eveyone already knew
>>
>4 mana 4/4, draw 2 cards
>blood players still crying

>B-but if you're at 20 health it deals 10 damage to your face!!
>>
>>170434047
I had a nice win streak win a self made control deck because I wanted to play LotF too. They always excpect a Nep. Then it stopped working and I had to go back to Nep.
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>>170434051
>Being half dead in a game where Albert and roach exists
You won't even be able to play her against aggro because if you drop her at a board disadvantage you're just going to get your shit shoved in. She'll be good against seraph Haven :^)
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>>170434051
>turn 4 Belohegor
>turn 5 Albert to face
>turn 6 evolved alwida to face

What blood needs is literally the Shadow legendary but with vengeance. Granted it would probably still be shit like shadow's is for early game but at least you don't need to kill yourself.
>>
Can I get a concede please?

68681
>>
Insider information. They're gonna nerf Albert to make all the new shiny stuff like Aegis and Beru-chan work.
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>>170434465
How is nerfing Albert going to make it better? It's not the only deck that aims to kill you fast atm.
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>>170430252

At turn 10, 20 damage is not hard at all if you don't have wards.
>>
>>170430825

It matters if you need to ram a roach into a ward and they aren't at full HP, but rather have some other effective HP amount.
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>>170434457
Pls respond
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