/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

First for UPDATE WHENN

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second for senshi best husbando

>>170236921
I wish to wrap myself in his freshly washed and dried fluffy beard.

>>170237450
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Soldier on, soldier!

>>170235183
I am using the legacy one, but it doesn't want to show up for new thread posting, it only works here in the reply box.

>>170236921
>truth
Senshi should be first always.

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>>170236921
Such a great dwarf.

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>>170238937
>captcha: SENS STREET
So close, captcha, try again.

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Hmmm, using this script in play kinda makes you feel like Azazel from Fallen.

http://pastebin.com/qjmq9T3c

>ti~i~iime
>is on my side
>yes it is
>hey there Hobbes
>havin' fun yet?

Anyone play the newest version of Masterwork? I always crash when I try to generate a new world.

>>170242515
>Anyone play the newest version of Masterwork?
no

>I always crash when I try to generate a new world.
ok

>>170242515
Masterwork is bloaty and fucked kinda. You're gonna crash a lot no matter what you do. Just turn off features until its working again.

>>170242515
>Bloat
I found it funny how they made it way to easy to get everything everywhere, want flux stone? Just taking fucking crabs that lay them!
Way too fucked up.

>>170242904
You say that as if the game is hard at all as it is. What you described sounds fine to me, honestly. Who the hell wants to skip over a cool embark because you'll be gimped out of steel?

>>170243304
There are any number of ways to do that without even approaching the general vicinity of masterwork and all the crap it comes with.

>>170243304
No one forces you to embark where there's flux. Iron works just fine on its own.

>>170243386
Yeah, like installing the individual mod that does that. Masterwork is shit because it slaps a truckload of mishmashing mods together while hogging all the glory, basically. Not because the mods themselves suck or make the game worse.

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>mastershit

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>Why yes, m'lady, I do play Mastershit

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>>170243878
who art thou quoting?

>>170244043
Buckethead bax, probably

>>170244114
Båx*

>>170242515
Jesus fuck why such hate for MW? I just asked if anyone played it because I was having trouble.

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>mastershit

>>170246491
word from the wise: don't

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>mfw I'm the average Mastershit user

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>>169266487
>>169267406
>>169273517
Here's the tileset I mentioned several threads ago. As promised, it was not worth waiting for. It's simply curses_640x300 adjusted to make it square with no other changes at all. I'm not sure if it's just that I'm not used to a square tileset or if the blank space is throwing me off or what, but it just looks kind of weird to me, which is disappointing. Oh well.

>>170246491
Because none of us have a clue what is wrong in such a big grab bag of clusterfucks as that one, and have no interest in learning enough about it to be able to diagnose a problem or suggest a solution besides "play something besides masterwork" really.

There are people who think masterwork //is// dwarf fortress, and there are people who think meph did shit besides go around asking modders if he can use their shit.

>>170246609
Ok then, was just curious.
>>170246689
Oh that actually makes a lot of since. I was just looking for a new DF experience, I wouldn't mind trying some crafting mods for adventure mod or something. Any suggestions? Or is Vanilla the best route?

>>170246847
>Any suggestions?
Just go through the post listing and linking the mods on the bayforum and grab what gets your attention.

>>170246847
For adventuring mods that are kept up to date and should be fun, adventurecraft is kinda carrying the torch from wanderer's friend and similar such mods that add more crafting/weapon/tool/etc reactions for adventurers. Plus it doesn't add in a shit ton of random crap so it's easy to diagnose!

>>170246847
>Any suggestions?

Adventurecraft and All Races Playable are good.

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>>170246647
there are indeed many versions of square curses with different levels of modification, you can find them here
I use this one myself
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tileset_repository

>>170246491
Dont listen to these kids. Half of them only browse dfg in order to view dankmemes without actually playing DF.

Masterwork is a bold mod and with that comes a lot of bugs but thats not why people hate it. They literally hate it because Meph (the masterwork dev) started a patreon and uses the money to travel the world experiencing things that they never will.

Some say this violates some ethical code and that the money should go directly into the mod but the way I see it he has been doing the work and continues to do so so where the money goes is irrelevant.

In summary: Fuck off elves.

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>>170247228
Sweet I'll try out Adventurecraft and All Races Playable. I have DFhack, LAA, Dwarftherapist, and soundsense, did I miss anything? Just out of curiousity does anyone play with soundsense? I kind of like having interactions make sound but its quality it can be a bit lacking.

>>170247406
It sounds like a pretty typical mod argument to me then. Assuming you've played it, have you tried out Hermit mode in 1.23 yet?

>>170247406
>nobody could ever object to anyone else's actions except out of envy
God, I hate this way of thinking.

The reason people object to Meph's money shenanigans is because he's getting paid for something that is about 99.9% other people's work.

I'd give you a 5/10, except that I'm afraid you're serious.

>>170247571
I haven't. I only use masterwork on occasion when I feel like exploring other playable races and new workshops/furnaces etc

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>>170247406
>Bold
>Meph
>Patreon
It's just bloat, none of the features it adds works well. Sure the mods by themselves might be balanced but it's at most a 3/10 for a mod.

>Pic related
Any good mod with drow?

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>>170247406
pretty decent b8

bound to piss some autist off

I'll give it a 7/10

>>170247736
>Nexus shouldnt collect advertising revenue because they didnt do 99.9% of the work

K

>>170247869
Just dupe one of the actual civilised entities (like the gobbos or the humans), change the name and change the creature to drows.

For the drow creature, just make a creature that copies all tokens from elves, but then changes the colours used for the skin and hair.

>>170248051
I'll bite.

Nexus actually hosts the content, which is more than can be said about Meph. He just leeches off the repository (which Toady pays for himself nowadays, IIRC).

Meph is actually so low that he takes donations for files that other people host for free for him.

>>170247886
That picture is funnier than it should be.

Also don't respond to the masterb̶a̶i̶t̶workfag, I do agree that it is shitty for him to make an income off of it, because he presents it like he's doing shit, and it's money that could go towards the toad.

Mostly I just don't like having questions or requests for help in /dfg/ which I can't even offer the slightest assistance with beyond a standoffish "do something else" response, but I'm not about to delve into that shitpile to figure out which part of whatever pre-digested mod might be responsible for whichever problem.

>>170248176
Is this what were doing tonight? Arguing the nuances of a mod launcher?

All im saying is the guy loved the game, did something to try to help other players, and found a way to make money doing so. I dont understand why he's being vilified.

If anything you should be mad at the people donating.

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>>170248176
Nexus rents server space...They dont actually host anything

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>>170248637
I'd let Libash spelunk in my cave any day~

>>170248540
I'm sorry. I'm just so tired of many of the MW users.

They always assume that the features in MW are actually vanilla users.

For example, (special raw-defined variants, I assume) werebeasts and demons have civs in MW, so many players who are used to them assume that that's the way those work in vanilla, as well.

One time a few weeks ago, someone mentioned that they had found a werebeast in human form in a lair (this behaviour among werebeasts is well known). Then some fucking MW user came in and said that it can't be a werebeast, because they only form civs, and don't live in lairs.

I know I'm rambling. I'm just so tired of people spreading misinfo because of this stupid """official""" modpack. It's just a matter of time before MW-fags tart rewriting the main wiki.

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>>170248867
>They always assume that the features in MW are actually vanilla features.
fixed

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>>170248940
Also, the post that inspired these sketches

>>170249209
Nicely done, I couldn't remember why that seemed familiar off the top of my head.

>>170248867
Yeah, the "well, I'm pretty sure the only people who do x are succubi, and werebeasts never do y" in response to shit like glowing eyes or lairs is pretty fucking annoying.

>>170249209
Oh hey that's me. Never thought my adventures would get arted. Thanks dude.

>>170249502
I'd been meaning to do them for months, but I just kept getting distracted by stuff.

Anyway, if you got anymore idea or something, or more antics the rhino dude got up to post them, it was a fun draw.

>>170248846
Woah there partner, the rhino is not for fug.

He is for wrasslin' moles!

Forgoing most defenses and just making the first layer of my fort a bunch of barracks+squads, the idea is that instead of bothering with long ass sieges and the attackers just walk straight into 40+ military dwarfs and get instantly rekt. Good idea or bad idea?

>>170249413
No problem. And I did learn a few other things during my adventures.

>You can recruit underground tribe people to follow you if they aren't hostile, and sleeping in their camp will protect you from most common dangers.

>Climbing skill is essential, of course. Especially for pits that extend from one layer to another.

>As of the current update, cavern monsters like blind cave ogres and trolls won't attack you unless you attack them. I think its a bug though

>Remember to bring an axe with you before you go down into the cave, as you can't find those small rocks you need to make one.

>If you have an axe, you can construct an underground log cabin.

>You can make a lot of money collecting undeground vermin such as purring maggots, as you can sell them to vendors in adventure mode, if they're in a cage.

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>>170249413
>well, I'm pretty sure the only people who do x are succubi

>tfw play with succubus mod but don't use masterwork.

Feels good to be superior.

>>170250162
saved, I'll add them to the rest of the adventures of Libash, although it might take a while maybe a few months

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>not using twbt

>>170250308
Its totally fine. I didn't even request any art in the first place so its not like you have an obligation or a schedule or whatever. Just do what you wanna do.

>>170250329
ok not gonna lie, I'm a vanilla masterrace fag who cannot stand tilesets and stuff, but that is super fucking pretty

>>170250329
Oh god muh dick. How do you get the z levels to all be visible like that? Also what graphics set?

>>170250484
twbt

>>170250329
Can one install/uninstall twbt without messing things up?

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>>170250484
its a dfhack plugin, "Text will be Text" or tbwt, which has a subplugin "multilevel" which renders multiple z levels

tileset is spacefox

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>>170250484
That's spacefox.

>>170250536
You can enable/disable twbt with a change of df/data/init/init.txt lines.

>>170250162
Cavern cabins are super cozy, make a world with the magma sea layer on but hell layer off and go find a volcano, it'll be open to the sea and you can build homes inside them.

Yo newfag here does Dwarf Fortress has a rimworld tileset?

>>170251645
You can make one if you want.

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bampin' with an old pic

>>170251912
wouldn't it be cool to make rimworld tileset for df and a ascii df mod rimworld?

>>170253397
You can make them if you want.

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>>170248831
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>>170249209
nice work, though strangely homoerotic

>>170253521
I guess it is yeah, weird.

It's that last panel, isn't it.

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>>170253521
>implying there is anything homoerotic about this fine lizard lass

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>>170253695
first and last I'd say, but I think it might be inherent in the rhino's design

>>170253863
Goddamnit.

>>170253794
Pls no sex the animal people

>A goblin waves a white flag covered in blood at your gate

>The gate keeper is confused and can not properly make a good judgment on the case

What does it mean?

>>170253284
comfy drawing

pls no more furry

>>170253284
in their tongue he is Måmgoznóton, Dragonborn!
MAR-TIAL-TRANCE

>>170255802
Sorry friendo, can't help it if the guy who posted the cavern tips played a rhino man.

>>170255387
>>170255948
cheers guys, I guess I'll come back and take requests once I finish the libash cavern survival thing

what kind of performance gains are you getting with overclocking in DF?

>>170257719
My CPU can't overclock

Let's settle this once and for all

http://www.strawpoll.me/12475256

>>170253521
Ahah, you put to words what was on the back of my mind.

>>170258335
Putting that survey here will skew your results.

>>170258553
I posted it on /rwg/ too though

>>170258553

>Implying it was not meant to be rigged

Its just like CNN running a poll on Trump

>>170258335
>>170258553
he put it in the rimworld thread too
it's still ridiculous since
1. it's just a "which game has more players on /vg/ right now" vote
2 it's too easy to vote multiple times

all in all I think this is just a strangely innovative bait that's supposed to make us shitstorm about rimfags again

>>170258335
Dwarf fortress is more fun than rimworld in its current state. Rimworld has alot of potential but it still isn't as good as dorfs atm. If Tynan were to start putting a little more depth behind pawns in Rimworld and make them feel less like mindless bots then I would probably have voted rimworld. Rimworld with mods definitely beats Dwarf fortress without mods though.

>>170236814
>Rimworld with mods definitely beats Dwarf fortress without mods though.
I disagree

>>170259776
You just haven't been using the right mods.

>>170259808
Suck my cock dude.

>>170259808
Not him, but I also disagree. The most I can get out of mods is making the game feel more like DF, which just makes me want to play DF.

>>170259956
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>170260041
Yeah making fun of me is so funny, so funny I forgot to laugh. If you wanna talk like that to me why don't you come here and say it to me face so I can answer your insults with a swift fist to the nose. Yeah you have a lot to say from hundreds of miles away but I bet if my fists were in reach of your face you would be like a tv on mute with no volume button. So do yourself a favor and keep your mouth shut unless you want to die. Next time you think about saying something like that to me I want you to remember one thing. I know the guy that created google maps and I can locate you in the time it took me to type this. Don't want anymore problems.... didn't think so faggot. You have any idea what gorilla warfare is? I do, I was in the US Marine Core and I perfected it. I'm fully capable of using it on you motherfuckers. Do you know the dander your in if I find you? I am 100$ serious. Bunch of god damn newfaf loser here and I will not have it. At least I've had sex, had girlfriends, and gotten laid, and blowjobbed unlike you virgin piece of unpatriotic SHIT.

>>170260124
how wonderful and romantic here's a soft piano track... but dudes, I've fucked HUNDREDS of anime girls, this isn't "my" first time, this is just another anime girl staining my cum rag among hundreds of others, so what if she offers "me" her virginity I've conquered like 100 other virgins. Anyway, yeah.

>>170260301
shut the fuck up. Do you hear these words that are coming out of my mouth? SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. Don't dare dream of speaking to a fucking superior like that. Im perfectly capable of snapping your fucking spine in half, and I'm perfectly willing to do it. You fucking faggot, you have no idea what you're getting yourself in to. I'll rip your spine out from your fucking throat, and i'll use it as a dildo to assrape your mom with while I make her gag on my fucking cock. Then I'll pull your shit-covered spine out from your mothers asshole, and force your father to lick the shit off of it while I jizz in his fucking mouth at the same time. I'll make your dad snowball the resulting mouthful of your moms shit and my cum, over to your little sister, who i'll force to fucking gargle it while i rape her in the asshole and whip her with a belt. All of this will be in front of your spineless, dying body, laying on the floor waiting to die. The last fucking thing you'll ever see is me castrating your fucking dad and shoving his dick down your throat until you fucking suffocate.

>>170260608
Wow, I can't fucking wait for /m/ to win. AGAIN.
Jesus Christ those a arrogant fucks think they're so fucking tough by picking on unprepared teams, what a load of shit.
What's the point of having a friendly if we know what the result will be anyways
Fucking /m/ ruining the cup, they should be out.

>>170260608
Hot.

>>170260759
Go fuck yourself, worthless kid. Whenever something happens you go up to your little /b/ folder・ pick up UMAD.jpg and post it here, thinking you are the best, laughing behind your screen, flapping these adipous cheeks of yours while your wawa chocolate milk drips all overy your XXXL t-shirt. Fucking pederast. You rotten, disgusting slug, bucephalus leech. I hate you and your entire body smells like feces. Do you have any idea of how long you have been there, sitting on this same chair that because of some unknown miracle managed to withstand your massive weight? You have been there for weeks, months, locked up in your room that smells like Doritos and Wawa milk, jacking off to your Haruhi wallpaper and posting 填MAD.jpg・on this fucking imageboard. I don稚 even know how you manage to type with your thick, greasy fingers, or how you still manage to find your tiny penis among all the fat flaps on your belly and groin area. You pile of shit, bipedal sperm-whale!!!

please stop guys, this is not what /dfg/ is for

>>170261025

you are a child and you and everything you believe are the cancer.
this is 4chan, and once upon a time that meant something. it meant we checked our egos at the door in the spirit of having fun and not taking ourselves seriously. that was when adults controlled this place, but those times will never come back. there will never be enough good people left to stand up against your childish high-school level sectarianism, your empty buzzwords and your entitled little fevered ego. but i'll still be here to remind you, you are the cancer.
you are not special, you are not exceptional, and your ego is not worth one fucking red cent. grow up and get over yourself, please, and quickly.

Remember the days when /dfg/ didn't have all this Rimworld shitposting and instead died with 300 replies?

I don't know which I preferred.,

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With my last migration wave I've got a master stone engraver who keeps engraving "sqaure within a square". He like fucking covered 1/3 of fortress with it. Then fucker got taken by mood and created pic related.
Could it be a sign that this fucking guy is a vampire or something? Because this obsession with creating obiects withi objects is spooky. He actually visits dinning hall and food stockpiles from time to time, but I'm not sure if he actually eating anything. On top of that he's reportely over 90 years old, but looks like someone 50. And he is THIN. I mean, what kind of dorf is fucking THIN?!

>>170261210
I'm enjoying the pasta though

>>170261210
It was almost two year ago the thread died regularily. It still happens on rare occations, but it's pretty rare.

What I mean is that we usually have a relatively vital thread, that still manages to be relatively shitpost-free.

All this shitposting started in the last few months.

>>170261210

No those are ages ago when myths were real and Moot still existed

now i don't even remember how to live properly

>>170261210
The only way to stop shitposting is with updates

>>170263871
Then we might as well close the general down until June.

>>170264641
come on, it's not that bad. it's still one of the best generals on here, with active drawfags, discussion and events like the last tourney
there is just a bit less discussion and a bit more shitposting as a result of content starvation

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This dragon was killed by a giant snail

>>170265271
talk about "getting killed by the snail" (get it?)

>>170265706
>get it?
no

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I've never seen the trees do this on this screen, is it the passage of the seasons causing this?

>>170266226
>is it the passage of the seasons causing this?
yeah

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I'm not going to lie, this is a pretty shitty bandit gang. It's just a single peasant and me.

Behold Armok himself appear before you

He present you with two choices

1. Toady will enter a zen like state and release new updates 10x the speed he already is doing (Due to tremendous stress there is a 7% chance Toady will die of fatigue)

2. you will receive a copy of the current DF build that will never lagg or crash. it will be frozen in its current build forever


Choose wisely

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Holy shit.

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>>170250329
As much as I like the vanilla ASCII for how it makes me imagine what's going on instead of simply visualising it for me, that tileset looks hella fuckin' good.

>>170266585
nice

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It's not attacking me, so it must be pretty chill I guess?

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>>170266585
Nice find.

>>170266585
Prepare your änus.

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>>170253521

Recently bought a pretty cheap laptop. It has a shitty 2.3 ghz i3 processor. Around what size/pop fort should I expect this thing to handle at reasonable fps.

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She was NOT chill AT ALL.

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Time to call in the cavalry.

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>>170261852
I truly do not understand how anyone can find copypasta entertaining.

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>>170260890

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I found a hole with water in it.

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FUTAMOD WHEN

With:
-male & female reproductive organs (womb & balls}, both applicable on the same pawn
-male & female sexual organs (dick & pussy}, both applicable on the same pawn
-necrophilia & nymphomaniac traits, necrophiliacs getting mood boost from harvested organs from zombies / dead pawns
-pawn thoughts from dick sizes in relationship, masochists getting mood boost from it
-craftable reproductive organs, from balls of steel, wooden and iron dildos to bionic vacuum pussies and golden pleasuresticks
-pawns with ascetic and prostophobe trait prefer and enjoy the low-grade solutions while greedy, prostophile and others the high-grade ones
-sculptable nudes, dildos and wooden horses
-new disease called "futa fever" needing regular treatment in every few days - if futa fever is not treated a new minor break called "stalking" will happen - after multiple minor breaks a major break will make the colonist leave to look for futas elsewhere - futa fever may disappear on its own or after being in a relationship with a futa
-futa dick juice with medicinal properties and as a luxury food ingredient (think of incest jelly but hotter) - may cause "futa fever" if taken regularly - may cause minor non-harmful addiction raising consciousness a little when taking in moderation and decreasing it when overdosed (range is from +10% to -10%)
-unarmed melee attack called "futacockslap" which incapacitates the opponent with a very high chance
-growable dickshroom / cockshroom plant which can be refined into aphrodisiac (effects yet to be determined)
-OPTIONAL: dick graphics for pawns when nude

WE ARE LOOKING FOR CODERS AND ARTISTS FOR THE PROJECT
THE CREATIVE STAFF IS FULL BUT IS ALWAYS OPEN TO DISCUSS NEW IDEAS

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I feel like this wouldn't bee very filling

>>170267597
I just love how over the top they can be

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>>170268097
>fission mailed

>>170268379
DID THE WAGON FALL OVER?

>>170268305
they can be funny when used sparingly, but spamming them is some of the worst shitposting possible

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>>170268379

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>>170268071
How about no.

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>>170268869
Don't respond to the shitty pasta anon.

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http://imgur.com/a/ZgtEi
Japa is neat.

>>170268753
Oh dear!

>>170268435
Somehow, which raises many questions.

>>170265179
We've gone through much longer update droughts without this shit. It's just a couple of assholes who have decided to use /dfg/ as their toilet when they get bored. I doubt they care about DF or when its updates come.

254: Nularofela Imeril•mifo, "Buriedfatal the Ashen Crypts", lair
11 bleak hags

>Deploy the Werebear

>>170269090
Dwarves truly are the moralfags of the world

>>170269090
What about humans

>>170270563
Human ethics are randomly generated per civilization iirc

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>>170270563
Humans have variable values/ethics.

>>170270563
Every human civ has rng-based beliefs and morals. I've seen humans believe power over others and romance are the highest values, I've also had some where they don't really believe anything.

>>170269090
>Only if it's for fun
Pls, cutebolds, no!

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>>170269090
>Goblins are full on chaotic stupid,
How the fuck do they ever get anything done?

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>>170272304
>cutebolds
reminder

>>170270330
Regardless of that, out of all three they're the only one that could actually build an acceptable society.

>>170272503
That's why they get wiped out by goblins most of the time right?

>>170272657
Goblin society only functions because demons control it. Goblins are essentially wannabe ancappers who actually just follow the orders of a race far beyond them.

>>170272782
so demons > everybody

>>170272867
Considering Demons are basically forgotten beasts/titans with sentience, yes.

>>170272782
Demons get murdered in worldgen all the time and goblin society carries on like nothing happened.

>>170273101
What are demon beliefs/ethics

>>170272782
There's a reason why goblins migrate en masse to dwarf and human towns

>>170273586
So do megabeasts, but that doesn't make dragons or hydras any less of a pain. They never go full extinct anyway, at least I've never had it happen.

>>170273626
Probably world domination or similar.

>>170273775
The discussion wasn't about whether or not they're a pain. Anon claimed goblin society only functions because demons are in charge, which clearly isn't the case.
Also, megas hardly die at all in worldgen since 40.16.

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>>170272396
No!

>>170273775
>>170273626
Demons don't have values or ethics. They aren't a civ. The only ones that are historical are goblin rulers, and they have they values and ethics for goblin civs.

>>170274029
Goblins being ruled by demons is pretty heavily implied, anon. Dark Forts and other gobbo sites sometimes, at least once per worldgen iirc, have connections to underworld spires, so at the very least one would assume goblins and demons have some form of contact.

And like I said, not all demons are wiped out in worldgen, and they're not impossible to kill. Titans and FBs also can get killed in worldgen too, but it's less frequent as there are A LOT more demons spawned in worldgen. The only reason people have trouble with demons at all is that they usually swarm, especially when popping a vein.

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>>170274037
A Kobold, by Toady ~2006

Now that demons are tied to Dark Spires will they still masquerade as gods and take over human civilizations? I haven't seen any in my worlds in a really long time.

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>>170274846
Doesn't happen as much, no, but if you add [POWER] to any sapient mega/semimega they'll take over shit left and right.

I was trying to find out on my own and came across this awesome bug report
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=596

>>170274683
A Kobold (and a Dwarf), by someone
~whenever

>>170273719
>There's a reason why goblins migrate en masse to dwarf and human towns
Jokes aside, gobbos don't actually do this.

The only time a civ gets non-histfigs of a different race, is when they captured a site of that race.

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>>170275184
Could have sworn I selected this picture

>>170274683
That kobold can easily be artistically interpreted as a cutebold, though.

I come, dear caves
I come, hospitable places,
until at last, destroyed by my grief,
I will entomb myself there.

>>170274528
It's not implied. It's explicit. Every goblin civ is initially ruled by a demon. That demon ruler is often murdered by a literally who goblin, after which point the goblin civ is ruled by a goblin and behaves exactly as it did before in every sense.
There aren't a lot of demons spawned in worldgen. There are exactly as many demons spawned as there are goblin civs, and they will often be wiped out in small or old worlds. No other demons interact with the world in any way or exist in any sense at all except as a procgenned raw in world.dat until a player goes and finds them after worldgen. They're spawned from thin air as needed when a player either goes to hell in adv mode or pops the adamantine tube in fort mode. They don't even have a defined abstract pop, they're just "unnumbered", like vermin.

>>170272379
>do not age
>require neither food nor water to live
>ruled by a demon from hell
It's not really reflected in the game right now, but it's a common feature of orcs that they actually DON'T get anything done, except when united under a non-goblin leader who can inspire enough fear to organize them into an army. Left to their own devices, they quickly descend into tribal warfare.

>>170276790
>ruled by a goblin and behaves exactly as it did before in every sense
You can argue that's either inherited behavior from being under a demon's rule, or toady being lazy and not making gobbo civs complete anarchy as per their morals after their demon overlord dies.

>>170274683
That's pretty cute.

Alright so i am using mephs tile set, and whenever I look in adventure mode, the yellow text is still all symbols.. I am using twbt and everything else still works so idk

What is the pinnacle f dwarwen science?

>>170280167
Zoom in with the mouse wheel

>>170280535
dwarven cheese

>>170276790
Technically killing the ruler is treason and they are supposed to be executed for it.

>>170280717

Yes the most useless food type with a obscene smell and the wight to even challenge a weregorilla

>>170280535
dwarven computing probably
I wonder, is it possible to build an actual perpetum mobile in this game?

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>>170280167
>mephs tile set
fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuu that's another reason to be mad about masterwork shit, fucking says "here's muh tileset, it's stuff these talented people made but aren't using right now, and I totally want to make my own at some point, but until then this is mine" straight up.

You can't use twbt in adventurer mode, it doesn't work right, it'll fuck up the text and crash you regularly.

>>170281740
>no tiles made by him
>still puts his name in it
Ok this is ridiculous

>>170281740
I didn't know about this and just assumed people meant phoebus when they referred to meph's tileset. My jimjams are a bit rustled.

>>170282089
>I didn't know about this and just assumed people meant phoebus when they referred to meph's tileset
How?

>>170236914
never

>>170282283
When I tried masterwork back in the 34.11 days it used a phoebus variant by default, and whenever I see people post mw screeshots here they're using something that looks like phoebus, so I assumed that was still the case.

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emu's give so much meat and they're everywhere in my world. or at least in this forest.

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thought this was dwarf fortress general and not dwarf fortress modding general baka..

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«|'◊'|».|+|.«|'◊'|»
«|'◊'|».|+|.«|'◊'|»
«|'◊'|».|+|.«|'◊'|»

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>>170281740
>not play vanilla in 2017

>>170281031
Goblins don't care about murder, treason isn't a thing in DF, and executions only happen in worldgen with captured enemies after a battle.

>>170282949
Very nice. Although I kept waiting for something to flash when I saw it was a gif.

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>>170282949
Nice to see you again. It's been a while, hasn't it?

Can you take a small request?

I want to see the inside of a vault, with angels and everything (including the archangel). Can you draw that? Please?

>>170282647
a subtle political message, perhaps?

an implication that EMU puts food on the table?

>>170282949
nice work. nice seeing you again dots.

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>>170283529
sure, but not today

pic related looked up size of an archangel

Is there any way to get divine metal in fort mode without previously playing adventure mode on the same region?

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>>170282949
>«|'◊'|».|+|.«|'◊'|»
I could not agree more!

>>170285401
You can get lucky and embark on a vault. You could get even luckier and embark on one of the rare kobold caves that isn't bugged vacant and happens to have been near enough to a vault for kobolds to have stolen a bunch of stuff from them.

>>170285840
>You can get lucky and embark on a vault.
No you can't.

I've tried embarking in spots where I know there are vaults (without having discovered them in-game). The 3x3 embark tile area in which the vault is located will be unembarkable, regardless of whether the vault has been discovered or not.

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>>170285802
>>170282949
>>170248940
>tfw 3 drawfags in a single thread, all with nice distinct styles
even in times of content starvation and shitopsting this general is still god tier

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>>170286730
i haven't gone anywhere either

>>170287014
draw this >>170283529
, then

>>170286730
>3
There's more then 3, though the other ones are slower and go for higher quality.

I want to be draw but I'm very bad.

>>170286730
You know what they must do now, don't you...?

A three-way death battle, with frown-anon appearing halfway through the fight by bodyslamming the current leader and dragging everyone into a cage match.

>>170287014
You can join in too if you want, wilba.


And then Enclave appears with a metal chair

>>170287118
sounds like a lot of effort
screw that

>>170287289
>sounds like a lot of effort
t. can't dorf

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Only did two things, fuck doing pixels to this quality though.

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>>170287014
>>170287175
ye I know, it's just rare to see three drawfags in the lifespan of a single thread
>>170287234
reminds me of the timbuk x 9dots thing where they tried replicating the other's style

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>>170287437
i'm dorfing right now.
can't dorf if I drawf though.

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>>170287527
Never finished this one sadly.

>>170286665
Really? I've never tried myself, I was just going off what I've seen other anons post here. I suppose it's possible they were just using embark anywhere. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to embark on a vault, though, when you can embark on lairs, shrines, camps, caves, etc.

>>170287527
that's pretty nice, looks like a character from some theoretical indie rpg

>>170287663
Nice color scheme. What is it?

>>170285802
GARFOFELES STOP KICKING KOBOLDIE

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>>170287874
Rjak from Master of Magic is what it's based on.

>>170238937
>adamantine
>crush bones
the rumors are wrong
so
updaet alreadygheer?

>>170283110
Executions can happen in fort mode as well. It's what the hammerer is for.

/dfg/ is a goddamn goldmine of randomly talented people...

>>170287983
Lee's V2 iirc. it's nice on the eyes.

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>>170287527
>>170288037
actually I just realised what indie game it reminds me of

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I haven't played in a few years, anything new I should know about?

>>170288181
That's why I specified worldgen. Although executions aren't always fatal in fort mode if your hammerer is a wimp with a nerf bat.

>>170288324
nope
but really yes
I'm sure someone will post the image

So is there any utilities to quickly manage job allocation for 43_05?
And is there any way to set a very low population cap and still get nobles and stuff?

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>>170287527
makes me think of Dagerfall.

>>170287990

>>170288580
Allright guess I'll find out. Also, I used to play kobold camp when someone first had the bright idea to mod them in as a playable race. Anything like that around besides masterwork?

I don't need all the stuff in dwarf therapist or DfHack. I just want to set jobs really quickly for tons of guys in fortress mode.

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>>170282854
>it's n-n-not like I wanted a drink or anything
>I just needed to work your handle and plunge your bucket deep inside you

>>170282061
>>170282089
A bit ridiculous, yeah, I mean, most of the dibujor tiles are just pulled off the demo images dibujor posted in his own thread it looks like.

Do I resize/rescale tilesets and share them? Yes. I've done a lot of this shit.

Do I tell people "I didn't make these, but I totally intend to I swear, but until then I made these" like that?
Fuck no! I love my goddamn tile/graphic artists, I love my drawfags, without them all of us fuckers would be sitting around using pixelated mushed up tiny tiles or trying to make our own and fucking up totally.

The difference between the sets I upscaled and snipped and fussed over for a dickyear in GIMP vs the fucking tech demo dePlatino set up to show how vector art can be used with tilesets is painful but fuck if I'm not gonna use the better looking set!

>>170283110
[ENTITY:EVIL]
[...]
[ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]

>>170289202
Nevermind found it on the forums...

Thinking about doing a strictly vanilla LP. Or is that cringe?

>>170289163
Damnit Drew, you know I can't stay mad when you do that.

>>170289163
it's time to kick Urist off the +Oaken Table+

>>170288324
The last big thing, I think, was the addition of temples, taverns and libraries, and reworking dwarven needs. Instead of going on breaks, the dwarves will now go party/pray/read in whatever recreational quarters you provide. They'll also attract offsite visitors if you let them, and you occasionally get bards, mercenaries or scholars asking to stay at your fort for longer.
Also we have 64-bit support now.

The next update will have worldgen artifacts, item display cases, and the ability to send dwarves from your fortress to attack other sites.

>>170289250
If you've got dfhack (the current beta for 43.05 is stable as fuck, to crash it I have to do really stupid shit while trying to see what exactly can crash in a script I'm writing, just in case, for people who aren't trying to crash it and aren't using TWBT in adventurer mode it's fine) then you can just open the units screen and go into the manipulator to do it.

Draw me a gang of dwarf in leather vests with spiky helmets riding mean hogs

with the sunset in the back

>>170289267
I guess it's technically not treason if the sovereign is dead?
You'd presumably get punished for a failed murder attempt.

>>170250329
The only downfall of vanilla DF is that we cannot see z levels like this.

I've only ever used ASCII and this actually looks pretty nice.

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>>170289527
>>170289632

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>>170238937
>Adamantine
>Crushing anything

>>170290043
I think it's more that they don't wanna risk it unless the demon tries to kick their ass and they fight back/kill it, but they pick other random targets to murder due to that tag.

>>170255129
A new gatekeeper is needed.

>>170269090
>only if it's for fun
>torturing animals is also a no-no
is this lawful or chaotic?

>>170289425
>strictly vanilla
sure
>>170289425
>LP
fuck off
DF is terrible to watch, even with an entertaining/not cringey commentator.
The best way to do a DF LP is either writing a story about it as you go or after the fact.

>>170291618
I find stories boring to read m8. just play the game or watch it. fuck off to a book if you wanna read a story m8

>>170291618
Case in point: Roomcarnage, it's entertaining and fun looking through the gifs and stories, but no matter how entertaining DS may be, watching it at 2 FPS live would be fuckawful.

>>170291761
Fuck u. I would seriously punch you in the face if I saw u rite now

>>170269090
>>170291419
>Dwarves
lawful good. they have a very strict moral code
>Elves
chaotic good. nice and friendly, but easy to anger and won't have qualms about eating u after they kill u
>Goblins
chaotic evil, obviously. too bad they don't have more depth, it would be nice if they were the ancap race instead of the stupid evil race
>Kobolds
chaotic neutral. they're filthy thieves, but it's the only way of life they know. kinda fun loving with strong tribalism, sort of like gypsies

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>>170291909

>>170292558
i kek'd

>>170292558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ocX3-XIDNY

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>>170292773

There are no proof or evidence that support the claim that Goblins is a evil race bend on violence and carnage.

>>170293065
Same could be said about african americans. But statistics don't lie.

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>>170293251

>>170293065
>they're not evil if you exclude these evil acts

>>170293251

Ill murder you for that comment you stump bearded bastard

>>170293065
they literally have a token called [EVIL].

if that's not proof enough, then I don't know what is

>>170293331
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N07YD7Ha3e4
Old man Ammy would fit perfectly into gobbo society.

Goblins cant become necromancers right? I want to make a badass goblin necromancer

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>>170293585
"Hahahaha"

Dwarf fortress is actually the best game ever fucking made. I have blisters on my hand from constantly pressing hotkeys. Thanks bay12games. Interacting with the world via a colony on a piece of land or as a single person who can go anywhere is so fucking dope. I don't play with any mods or graphic packs either. One time I killed a commander in their sleep and a couple days later two crossbow men hunted me down and shot me in the head. This community is helpful as fuck and Tarn has even answered some of my dumbass emails.

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>>170272304
They are lewd creatures.

>>170295016
wtf lmao love this

>>170294609
>shilling this hard

Haha don't you know that not only is df just a rip-off of team fortress 2, but Toady actually committed genocide against tentacle demons. If you endorse bay12, you literally endorse pure evil.

>>170295016
That is no kobold! THATS A N ARGONIAN AAAAAAAAAAA!

>>170295336
lmao yeah totally df is a rip off of a fps. that's total bs and you know it dude. Also tentacle demons aren't real dude. So therefore bay12games didnt kill anybody. Get a grip dude.

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>>170295551
this is some next level shit

Yesterday marked the 8 month without an update anniversary. How old do you feel now?

>>170289267
>[ENTITY:EVIL]
>[...]
>[ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
Yeah, but nothing they do, or anyone else for that matter, is considered treasonous, and there are no historical events for treason or the execution therefore. It's just a line in a text file with no effect in game.

>>170291016
Murders don't involve combat or duels or anything like that. The entire historical event is "X murdered Y on date Z". If there's any such thing as a failed murder attempt, there's no evidence of it. From all appearances they're entirely random, can target any member of a goblin civ, and are successful 100% of the time.

>>170293935
No. They have to be mortal.

>>170296320
Pretty sure that's not true anymore, I know I've seen some knife ear necromancers running around.

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>Fire in the farming area
How the fuck.

>>170297668
MAGA crab?

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Alright, I'm out of ideas /dfg/

I want a solid ground, because that's neat
But muh tileset has to be all whites, blacks and pure alpha, no inbetweens
And the way I'm handling it right now makes workshops nigh invisible on rough terrain

How the fuck do I handle this

>>170297819
Turns out it was the blood from the titan, might have got on one of the animals.

>>170297838
Have a look at CLA.

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>tfw my tiger man is ambushed by bandits

>>170293065
How about the fact that they don't spawn at all if you disable evil biomes from spawning?

>>170298071
screenshots or it didnt happen

>>170297838
Use diagonal lines for the dirt tiles.

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>>170298170
Don't have any but its pretty cut and dry.
>Make tigerman
>put all skills into punch and dodge
>Get into crazy karate battles

>>170298457
there's no fucking skill named "punch"

post screenshots or admit that you're a lousy liar

>>170298810
>What is the striker skill

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>Goblins show up
>Killed the speardwarfs
Oh well it's pretty much over now.

>>170298810
Striking is punching, you goober.

>>170299027
I'm not seeing any screenshots

Time for a new fort.

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>>170299735
Wrong img.

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>>170298042
kinda thought CLA was more on the critters side of thing

>>170298224
loving it
guess I'll head to bed before I get too caught up in tweaking it around and exploring it

>>170299916
rip in p[eas

>>170299735
>>170299916
Yeah, that's the issue with making a fort out of the paths your dwarves automine. It looks cool as shit, but it's usually not defensible at all.

>>170300198
That looks surprisingly good.

>>170296793
The interaction to make a creature a necromancer has [IT_REQUIRES:I_TARGET:CREATURE:MORTAL] (I think that's the syntax, cba to check exactly now). If you're seeing elf necros then it's a bug.

>>170302014
If you only have one entrance it's still defensible enough

>>170302014
Not him, but it's obvious that the defensibility of the design isn't at fault here. A good militia can kill all resistance on any ground, assuming they aren't vomiting from cave adaption or anything like that.

He didn't have a proper militia, it's as easy as that.

>>170302287
I lost a lot of them to the firebreathing squirrel. Still would have needed about 30 dwarfs at least. Though the 6 that did fight were poorly trained.

>>170302562
>I lost a lot of them to the firebreathing squirrel
just dorf fortress things

>Check the Dwarf Civ I want to go with
>Queen born in year 7
>87 start wandering the wilds
>87 became a monster slayer
>88 married and settled
>106 become Queen
>Worships a hydra after being attacked in 111
Might as well make a whole fort based around this Hydra.

What will /dfg/ have engraved in their tomb?

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The fuck? Where is the bone and shell opción? Do I really need to do this shit manually?

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>>170305218
A Dwarf eating cheese

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>>170305218
>A masterful rendition of timbukdrew engraving an image of a timbukdrew engraving an image of wilba and enclave drawing an image of a dwarf and indianon jones by ninedots.

>The indianon jones is exploring, the dwarf is saying OOOOOH, the wilba and enclave are fighting, the timbukdrew is melting, and everything is pulsating in a surreal trippy fashion because why not.

>It menaces with spikes of awesome drawfaggotry and goat bone.

>It is encircled by bands of cave spider silk and some fuckbag drew "/rwg is #1" on it in... oh god, is that feces, who the fuck would do that?

No, fuck it, I'm getting out of here, that's disgusting.

>>170290034
>>170290124
Drew I think he meant you.
Would be pretty sweet to see.
<3

>>170306541
Incidentally if I missed a drawfag, I'm sorry, I love you guys, yes, even you honestanon, wherever you are. I blame the lingering remnants of my chest cold for making me logey.

>Thanks for another great month! Now that I'm back from GDC, I can jump into fortress mode (after that, the release only needs kobold maps and some random promises handled). I'm also in the last stage of editing a book (Procedural Generation in Game Design, with Tanya Short), and our final deadline is March 16. So there could be a short lull this week, but I think I'll have enough time to do my normal DF work as well.

>It has been a busy month at Bay 12, but now that all that is over we can get down to the real business. This means foreign policy, dwarf style! Task your dwarven squads to retrieve stolen artifacts and generally cause trouble in the outside world which is now yours to plunder (or at least annoy!) Bonus material for this next push is the ability to identify and punish goblin agents seeking information about your hoard. I hope you are excited as we approach the end of this development phase!

>>170309054
>Bonus material for this next push is the ability to identify and punish goblin agents seeking information about your hoard.
Oh boy, MORE things to be paranoid about.

>>170309153
Yup, I really am excited as hell to see how all the agents/identities stuff plays out.

>>170309054
>Punish every visitor that shows up at the fortress.
>Send off squads to start wars.
>Watch as your Civ gets destroyed outside your fort from all the wars

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>>170309673
>start being prejudicial with visitors and belligerent
>send off a group to gather information on a stolen artifact
>locals discover where they came from and lynch them

Really hoping he goes with something kinda like the mockup I did for the identity swapping.

>>170309054
Wait a minute this isn't showing up on the bay12 update blog

>>170313024
Oh, it's from the monthly report, he's probably going through FotF shit atm.

So my impression is more or less that i'm playing this wrong because for a very long time, I had my dwarves focused on a pretty wide variety of jobs. Watching other people play and seeing the way they laid out their fortresses it seems like a smarter thing to do is to make the vast majority of your dwarves miners, with a few smiths, furnace operators, farmers, and maybe a carpenter or two + military to keep the rest of them occupied. But a solid 80% of the fortress should be miners. This is also came out because I noticed that mining doesn't really seem to have any "traits" attached to it - more or less every dwarf seems like they are "fit to mine."

So I guess I'd like some kind of confirmation on this. I realize management styles differ, but as far as textbook, someone who's working on their first fortress advice.

I do have a second question, which is how many masons / stone detailers do you guys have? I feel like that's also paramount to having a good fortress, obviously you eventually want the stone fortress to be smooth and valuable so everyone gets happy thoughts and what not, but again, as a percentage of population, what do you recommend? Is it low, to keep the stone detailing skills high, despite the slowness of the progress? Is it high? Somewhere in between?

>>170315778
That 80% should be haulers or the largest %.

>>170315778
I usually only ever have two or three miners.
Mining isn't a terribly crucial job that needs to be done super fast, and a legendary miner or two will mine through stone fast enough unless you're trying to totally hollow out the earth or something.
I tend to have more masons when I'm doing an aboveground fort and more stone detailers when doing a below ground fort. Typically for stone detailing, I enable it on everyone who isn't a farmer, because I care about having a smoothed out fortress more than high quality engravings.

In general though I don't pay too close attention to what labors dwarves have enabled, I just enable the master labor for whatever a dwarf's highest skill is, so proficient clothiers get all crafting labors, competent farmers get all farming labors, novice soapmakers get drafted into the military, etc. and if I find I need more of a certain labor I just add it to a couple of random dwarves.

>>170315778
For me a handful of miners carve out shit faster than the rest can clean up after them. So I have a shitload of useless bastards set to haul/engrave. Sometimes a wave of 20 immigrants ends up on their knees, smoothing floors until they die or the fortress is finished.

>>170315778
80% is ridiculously excessive.
I have an enormous fort, and still growing. I run a population of 125 with ~40 miners. The fort is just shy of 18 years old, and many of my miners have been mining for less than half the fort's life. Most forts could get away with a lot fewer miners, and most do.
As for stone detailers, I have a few dedicated detailers but many of my miners do double (or triple) duty. It's useful to have them able to finish mining a level and smooth the walls right away so I don't have to wait for other dwarves to get there and do their work before I can start the next leg of mining. Unless you have a shitton of smoothing to do you probably don't need to do that, a4nd can get away with only a handful of detailers. Consider having a few dwarves with no other moodable skills do your detailing, because one fey or secretive mood will get you a low-effort legendary detailer. You need even fewer masons. Once you get a couple up to a high level they can shit out more exceptional and masterwork furniture in one year than you're likely to ever need. A block farm is a good way to achieve that if you have enough projects to use the blocks on.

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>A stray yak cow has grown to become a honey bee

>Stress
How the fuck do I make them go insane?
Just cut off the booze supply?

>>170319217
I think you may have misread.

>>170319680

I double checked, I did not.

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>>170319217
Impressive.

>>170320195
So now there's a bee the size of a yak flying around?

>>170320478

One of the Yaks I started with has up and disappeared. Other than that there doesn't seem to be anything abnormal happening.