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NEW EXPANSION "Tempest of the Gods" to be released this March! Start saving rupies:
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

The GBF collab event is LIVE. Check the following pastebin for details:
http://pastebin.com/3U2KM9p5

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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR

FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/

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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U

Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Old thread: >>169988849
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Post elf
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12456776

Answer the damn poll
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Need a quick concede, thanks!

ID 67560
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Reminder that 90% of the shitpost and problems in the general are the fault of whiny green players

>Players that never played physical card games (mtg, yugioh, pokemon, vanguard, chess, etc)
>Players whose only past experience with card games is HS ranked play
>Players that have never won a tournament
>Players that have didn't even have participated in a tournament
>Players that don't know stuff BUT aren't willing to learn
>Players that give their opinion BUT get mad when they that their opinion is shit because they lack insight on how card games work

Yes you, you're the problem anon.
Crying about Daria.
About banish.
About ramp.
About bahamut.
About SahaLuci
About Nepnep
About Seraph
About aggro
About control
About combo

No, YOU are the problem. Stop being a child and wise up.
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jannu is a fucking socially awkward DORK
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>/really long fucking OP/ autist is back again
bummer
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>>170014774
>lumping daria with all that other stuff
t. daria shitter
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Never go full banner kids.
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>>170014774
>nepnep
Pretty sure 90% of the problems in this general are because of autists like you who are used to playing bad games.
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>>170014774
Do you even read your own shitty pasta?
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I want Luna to pleasure herself on my dick while Cerberus grinds her smooth cunny on my face!
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>try to play Nep
>Dshit
>sword with 2 fucking Otohimemes in a row
>Roach shitter
>Seraph


I fucking hate this game.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12378077
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>>170014886
Does Banner run Alberto?
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>>170014948
DE

LET
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>>170015159
every sword deck might as well run albert theres no reason not to
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>>170014685
all those vampyshitters
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>>170014685
BLOODKIN UNITE
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>>170015329
That's why this thread is cancer.
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>>170014521
Still looking for help, any input is appreciated
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>>170015492
You might need to play something else, it could be the current meta.
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>>170014685

Alright Shadow boys, we gotta beat these dumpires for Luna and spooky skeletons.
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Rune dropped another 0.7% since yesterday.
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>>170015492
Maybe drop a satan and replace that with a gilgamesh?
Maybe run some fortes?
You know some way to actually kill your opponent once you have board control

Satan is so slow and running 2 of them is just asking for loses
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>>170015592
I hate diverse meta is so hard to counter
t.shitter who need to complain
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Thanks universe
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>>170014575
>early thread cancer
Is it the new norm? Will I get banned if I create a thread at 680 posts?
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>>170015584
I'm doing my part!
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So dragon is the new hot bitch?
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>play against sword
>storm follower
>storm follower
>storm follower
>storm follower
>storm follower

There literally nothing you can fucking do against it. Albert was a mistake.
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1 private match win pls
87166
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>playing in beginner ranks for free coins
>playing vs aggro shadow
>he summons nepthys and grabs a mordecai
>shadow witch his mordecai
>he drops another nepthys and fetches another mordecai
What the fuck
I just want to grind coins in peace not be raped by fucks with more shit than me
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>>170015862
This autist posts early to create the long OP when everyone wants a short one, like the last thread.

Report him.
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>Forest
>Dragon
>Rune
>Sword
>Shadow
>Blood
>Haven
>Sword
>Rune
>Forest
>Dragon

What time to be alive
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87912

Need a concede
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>>170016023
>when everyone wants a short one
[citation needed]
Only phoneposter do.
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>>170015759
you are like a little baby
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>>170014575

i need Jeanne to insult me
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>>170015367

Master of Bats

Gold Bloodcraft 6PP 3/4 5/7

Ward

Whenever you summon a forest bat while your field is already full, put it under this follower and gives this follower +1/+1.

Clash: All forest bats get +1/+1

When this follower dies, summon all the forest bats under this card until the field is full.

"You think you're scared of bats now? Well you haven't seen anything yet!"
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>>170016140
You probably won.
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>>170016140
HEAR
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>get 5 win streak after a long time
>suddenly 2 aggro shadow with perfect hands
Sometimes the game just tells you to stop.
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>>170016124
I'm not a phoneposter and I prefer short OP. The number of people you see asking stupid questions because they don't bother to read this long ass wall of text is irritating.

>how long does the granblue event last?
>post-nerf? what, there's a nerf?
>i wanna git gud in t2, advices?
the list goes on.
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>>170016235
>>/gbfg/
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>>170016124
>Only phoneposter do.
I'm on a phone and I don't mind it at all.
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>>170016290
yeah, stop being bad at the game
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>>170016308
And you think they'd read a fucking pastebin?
So delusional.
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>>170015584
I believe in Luna.
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>>170016308
Most people like to be spoonfed and will never read the OP no matter which format you use.
They will just ask and wait for an answer even if the relevant info was the only thing in the OP.
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>>170015584
But I like both
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>>170014948
>cunny
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>>170014128

Dunno if you saw my response in the other thread but I'm glad that you took it seriously and it helped you. I'm just repeating what I've learned from more talented players than myself.
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>playing aggro blood against blood
>nothing for the first 2 turns
>assume it's control blood
>hold back on killing all game because don't want to trigger vengeance
>it was actually just aggro blood but he bricked
>lose because of it

Fuck these meta-based cardgames.
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>>170016496
No, because the important information would still be outside the pastebin, while the pastebin condenses all of the old shit that no one ever looks at. If they can throw a short glance at the OP and find their information they'd be more inclined to check it out than if they have to search for what they need in a huge wall.
That's the entire point.
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>>170016610


I do too, but Luna is better.
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Who here /done/?
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>>170014774
While I generally agree with you, Daria and spell boost is a cancerous mechanic. It is entirely future proof, and well only get better as better spells come out to push out the old spells.

But yes people without tcg experience are whiners.
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>>170016496
>>170016605
I guess everybody else here enjoys long ass wall of texts.

>>170016732
This guy gets it.
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>>170016440

I want to suck on her delicious flat chest
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>>170015492
Replace a Santa with Olivia.
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>>170015759
Other than this brick of a hand how is 2578 working for you?
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>>170016853
Why are the skellies behind her so embarrassed
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>>170016732
Important shit is always on top, if people miss that they can only blame themselves.
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>>170016732
>>170016845
I'm sorry that your kind has short attention span and can't read something longer than a couple sentences. Was this too long for you?
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>>170016528
>>170015906
is shadow the most autistic class?
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>>170016768
It's obvious to anyone with any CCG experience. Mana cheat and extra turns can never be balanced. They inherently break the rules of the game, and are either pure cancer, or pure shit.

Long combos are also not fun to play against. They embody everything people hate about control (remove EVERYTHING), on top of having to sit through long turns of digging for combo pieces. Witch as a class just represents pretty much everything I hate about card games. A combination of it and Elf are pretty much the worst thing I could ever imagine.
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>>170016853
I don't like her hair.
Everything else is cute.
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>>170016750
I normally don't like the reward sleeves but Date has pretty good art. I may have to grind it out.
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>>170016140
>3 Arias by turn 5
Wew
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>>170015492
>owl guardian

i would use neptune, discarding a card is bad when you are ramping
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>>170016946
Pretty good out of the last 10 games I played I only lost 3.
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>>170016953

They aren't embarrassed. Those skeletons very recently used to be people. She is literally destroying their bodies and devouring their life energy via her music.

She is literally a Killer Devil.

That is literally why she says, "Satsriku Show Hajimaru Yo!"

Deepest lore.
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>>170017271
You forgot
>Aiela
She's worthless late game. It's also fine to discard Unica and Blazing Breath if you're running those. Only real problems are Salamander and Date. I wouldn't run Owl if you're running Date, because you're bound to have either Date or Salamander at hand.
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>>170017090

You don't like short hair?
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>>170017413
I do, just not a big fan of cropped bangs.
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>>170015492
Use Grim Reaper instead of Owl.
Swap Aiela for Healing Angel.
Then Cut 1 Aiela/Angel and 1 BB for 2 Emissary
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>>170017504

That's fair. I like bangs but I've seen first hand how they divide people.
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>yurius deals 5 unavoidable damage to win
>guys blood is shit
Epic Lol Epic Lol
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>>170017061
We Just need some kind of traps or counterspells but that goes against the fast paced digital mindset
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>>170017697
Yeah blood can't have good cards
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>>170017697
>unavoidable
?
nigga play ur first follower then kill him then play the others
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>>170016654
Yeah I did but I just lost the last 6 games back to back so I don't know if im garbage, unlucky my luck ran out.
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>>170017413
Is she about to be brutally raped?
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>>170017713
Khawy is some sort of trap desu
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>>170017743
Feena and Gobus are dead Anon. What you need is Cynthia.
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>guess which deck your opponent is playing at mulligan
>guess wrong
>lose

Outskilled.
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>>170017697
>Opponent play Yurius
>TSUKKOME TSUKKOME
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>>170017697
Post rank or shut the fuck up. You b rank shitters need to learn how to fucking play, before you run your mouth.
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>>170017743

It's a very matchup dependent deck and is quite difficult to play.

If you like I could explain why I suggested those changes. But I'll be honest I have had better success at Master climbing with other decks.
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>>170017862
But I'm playing boltwolf and I never have a almost never have a board to buff
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>>170017870
>guessing wrong
What a loser lmao
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Albert is a homosexual.
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>>170017862
>Feena and Gobus are dead Anon. What you need is Cynthia.

Not in Wolf anon, Wolf lives or dies by hand size. That is why you need Goblin and Feena. It isn't about Roach at all.
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>>170017870
>always play to win instead of playing to not lose
>mulligan for a good curve instead of some autistic counter shit
>have a good time and probably more likely to win than someone guessing wrong and fucking themselves
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>>170017775

Actually, yes.
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>>170017870
only hard one is rune and maybe dragon

For rune you can't tell if they are bricking daria or dshift until around turn 4.
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>>170017990
Well I'm sure I would have climb faster with other decks but I really like the deck and have fun playing it.
But yes after playing fenna and gobbu I can see why they are better than the shit i had before
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>>170018149
Is that Yurius? He can't keep getting away with this.
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>>170018273
yurius doesnt have horns i think
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Who farming aggro shitters with control shadow here? That one game I lost was the ridiculous brick I posted here >>170015759
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>>170017697
>too dumb to have cheap removal in his deck
even aggro sword runs whole soul for a reason.
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>>170018273

Not Yurius but I think they might be related.
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>>170018365
Control no neph shadow?
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>>170018365
I don't remember subscribing to your blog anon but I'm happy you're having fun
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>>170018365
>2578
>Control Shadow
I don't think so.
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>>170018390
>have cheap removal
>don't pull it
xD
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>>170017870
>guessing wrong
I've got what you need.
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>>170018135
There are different cards in my deck that change in value depending on the opponent's deck. Wanting to draw the cards that will make it more likely to win is the exact opposite of "playing to not lose." Though I guess a player whose limit of strategy is playing on curve wouldn't realize that.
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>>170018429
2578
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>>170018135
>t. blood aggro
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How can people enjoy playing Dshift?
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>>170018365
I'm playing 2578 and getting the absolute worse matchups all evening.
2 Dshifts, 3 Havens and a whole lot of sword.

The moment I switched to aggroverse approved aggro deck I get matched with dragon.
Fuck this game's matchmaking system.
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>>170018778
There's literally nothing wrong with playing blood aggro.
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>>170018227

Fair enough. Just wanted you to to know there are probably easier options.

But Wolf is indeed a very fun deck to play.
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>tfw the only deck that I found that can literally beat dshift 90%+ is wildfang OTK

Is the dragon the true chemo craft?
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>>170018862
Playing against other people is too hard. They'd rather win or lose to RNG.
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>>170019131
Only if your leader is Forte
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Private match concede pls 18060
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I'm new. If I'm trying to build a specific deck, is it worth smelting a bunch of legendaries that I don't need for that deck in order to fund it?
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>When you KNOW some bullshit is coming and you don't draw ANY of the cards that could stop it

god

god

i HATE this feeling

i have so much card draw as i could put outside a rune deck and it's NEVER enough
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>>170014575
>NEW EXPANSION "Tempest of the Gods" to be released this March! Start saving rupies:
Man I stopped playing around new year, How was the Rage of Bahamut meta?
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>>170018862
Dshift players don't care about fun
Its all about winning to them
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>>170019385
Garbage
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>>170019325
Thanks my fellow bloodkin
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>>170019357
Only shit legendary cards.

in the future you will need other crafts to get gold
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>>170019385
It was trash, they nerfed 2 problematic cards, now it's really good. That's about it.
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>>170019357
post your legends so we can see the trash ones
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Why is that all other real aggro decks have no trouble beating Nep but aggro shadow is the only piece of shit deck that loses to it?
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Will Blood ever get a ridiculously overloaded card like the other classes? You know, something with 10 fucking effects and near on curve stats to boot? Albert, Khawy, Daria, Prof. of Taboos, Fervor, Ancient Elf etc...

Blood is the only fucking class without a single fucking threatening late game drop. You'd think they'd fucking reward the class that kills itself for surviving for so long, yet they give it the weakest fucking late game of any class. Every other fucking class wins the game on 8 except fucking Blood.

>le mary combo meme
Wew, 3 card combo that can't be tutored on turn fucking 10 to do as much damage as 1 ( O N E) Albert does on turn 9.
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>>170019385

Current meta is diverse, you can play anything.
See
>>170015592
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>>170019556
>now it's really good.
Great, it seen now it's a good time to begin my rupie farming.
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>>170019357
no because you need it to complete dailies for other classes, unless you want to take 3 hours for 5 wins with a certain class with a budget deck
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>>170019506
>>170019563
I'm thinking of getting rid of Prince, Princess and Saha. Maybe Zirni too.
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>>170019730

Well it's definitely better since the nerf but Daria is still an absolute bullshit card that should never have been printed.
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>>170019368
i hate albert and mordecai with this the most. they need to introduce more banishes for the other classes so that using urd on morde doesn't instantly win control mirrors.
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>>170019747
Vial Pluto the rest can be good in the next expansion
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>>169975510
Mulligan for rites, start slinging damage effects, hunt/sieg, serpent's force like hotcakes for value. Pressure cards like leviathan and shapeshfit keep my feet on the ground and I close out with dragoon or leviathan.
I've been experimenting with pendants for that added fuck yeah. It's gonna be nuts when we get wrath drake and venomous violet
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Is liquifying safe to press or is there some system like in hearthstone where if they nerf card they give full dust(vials) for it.
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>>170019853
>fairy princes
>ever good

If anything Pluto would be good only because on top of Bahamut everyone would be running Zeus as well.
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>have american flag on
>get roped and disconnected all day
>get rid of american flag
>not a single disconnects afterwards
Can't make this shit up
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>>170019701
Neat, I guess I'm gonna try to farm with my sword ambush deck.

>>170019802
Yeah, I have heard a ton of complains about Daria and after watching some videos bitch is insane, Piercing Rune is some bullshit too.
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I hate that card
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>>170019941
they give full dust value for nerfed cards, you can favorite ones you think have potential so they dont get dusted
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>>170019747
Fairy Princess and Pluto are bad. I'd keep the other legos, they are either unpopular but usable (Zirnitra), may become good in the next exp (Imperial Dragoon), or good (the others).
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>>170019385

There are people bitching about diverse meta now
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>>170020013
thnx


Last question: What should I aim for, unshown 2 bahamuts
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>>170019357
>>170019747
What deck loser? Zirn's great value in your daily deck until you get the powercreep. Pluto's fine until you fill out your card library.

>>170019941
There's only been 4 cards nerfed in 9 months. they were homecoming, harvest festival, piercing rune, and goblin mage. You're better off just liquefying extras and playing the game if you actually needed vials and aren't just stacking up khawy, daria's and shit to autism post when a nerf hits
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>>170019696
Just Yurius bro.
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Are there any rewards for completing the new story chapters if I already have the harbinger flair?
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whats a good deck for climbing AA->Masters?

i've been playing aggro blood again recently and surprisingly its doing really well. I thought people said it dropped off around AA?
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>>170020004
Piercing Rune is one of the 2 cards that got nerfed, it's 2 pp when you evolved. It used to be 1 pp.

Goblin mage is the 2nd card nerfed in the set, it was only able to pull 2 pp cards, now it can pull 1 and 2 pp cards. Daria was problematic, but Goblin Mage enabled an otk forest roach deck that had 60-70% winrate when played well.
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>>170020232
90 gold, 60 vials, 3 tickies for 1100 gold and 9 packs total iirc
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>>170020249
Panda sword is the best.
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>>170020364
what is panda sword
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>>170020320
>3 tickies
Well free tickies is always good.
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>>170019995
>being american
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https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/695-139200-master-rank-midrange-swordcraft-hanta

What can I run instead of 3x tsubaki? I only have one and 2poor to craft more
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>>170020190
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/master-rank-tempo-runecraft-70-wins-out-103-matches-kumi
Something like this. I played MTG and this reminds me of Delver, if you're familiar with that.

>>170020095
>>170019853
Thanks, but doesnt Saha seem awfully niche? Or do you need to build around her?
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>>170020249
/svg/ is full of fucking retards, who ever could have guessed
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>>170020456
fangblade and mentors teachings
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>>170020435
The story games are really fun anyway

>>170020473
Well since you know what you're doing, post golds too, lets see if we can nut this bitch.
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>>170020456
DoD
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>>170014575
>NEW EXPANSION "Tempest of the Gods" to be released this March! Start saving rupies

Goddamn I just started playing hearthstone again when they nerfed buccaneer and spirit claws and only now I notice this. Shiet I can't juggle 2 ccgs at once. This is a tough choice.
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>>170020473
Saha is the only viable dragon deck currently. Also unless she gets nerfed she's only going to get better as more cards come out.
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>>170019696
I feel like blood has to get some love next expansion
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>>170020629
>Hearthstone or Shadowverse
>This is a tough choice
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>>170020473
Saha's part of the neutralcraft deck core. She's a future-proof powercreep card. 7pp rush that leaves a 4/4 body is pretty good all told and a gil/zues can face from an empty board or with a saha evo clear.
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>>170020456
I run a 3rd DoD instead of the 3rd Tsubaka.
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>>170020473
Saha is important in Dragon, and saha ramp dragon is considered the best dragon deck right now. Saha into Lucifer is a crazy turn that will most likely seal the deal for any aggressive deck/Daria deck.

Sahaquiel ramp dragon is an expensive deck to build, so you might never be able to complete it. With that said, the card will get even better in the next expansion with Zeus, a 10PP 5/10 storm ward bane.
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>>170020639
>Saha is the only viable dragon deck currently.
Otk is fine and Face dragon is also good
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>>170020639
Storm Ramp is good.
"aggro" Dragon is not that bad too.
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>>170019563
Not that anon but I would like some advice too

I started 3 days ago and I'm not really sure whats good
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>>170020781
This so much. You're breaking your balls running out of steam trying to kill them in time then they t7 saha-luci clearing your shit, leaving a 6/6 body and heal for 4 then next turn they drop luci and heal for 4 again ending your game.
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>>170020886
>x3 fairy princess
aw, m8
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>>170020886
Basically, everything is good and it's even better when you don't have an all-lego playset. Don't listen to /svg/. They regurgitate x is bad memes and for 2 xpaks they've swung back around being first in line shitposting aww fuck I dusted [card] and now it's good reeeeeee!
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anyone got a fun aggroblood deck?
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>>170020886
>Safe vials
Beast Dominator
Arch Summoner Erasmus
Jeanne D'Arc

>Meme garbage
Skullfane
Fairy Princess

>Not meta but viable
Lord of the Flies
Zirnitra
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>>170020886
Vial Erasmus and Skullfane.

Jeanne seems to have a time to shine in the new expo
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>>170020984
I don't even like forestcraft that much
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Friendly reminder to play control sword right now for easy Master rank
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>>170020886
The "good, you should keep":
>Tia
>Cerberus
>Bloody mary
>Tsubaki
>Queen vamp
>Sahaquiel
>dark angel olivia
>enstatued seraph
>bahamut

The "decent but underwhelming, keep, or vial if desperate" :
>lord of the flies
>zirnitra

The "bad, vial" :
>Skullfane
>Arch summoner erasmus
>jeanne d'arc
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>>170021084
>Not meta but viable
>Zirnitra
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>>170021043
Here
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>>170021084
>Baphomet and spiderweb imp
>Ward wall closer
>Sonia and RoB for beefy target immune ward walls you just keep regenerating
>Eido-skullfam count haven
>Lionel-fencer gemstones tempo hand refill
>Zombie board into breath then value home
>Seacraft or flute-spire
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>>170021272
She's just high value. She doesn't have a set direction, but for 8 mana you're getting good stats and either face damage or removal.
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>>170021272
Don't crush a dragon's dream, let them believe in it.
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>>170021270
The "bad, vial" :
>Skullfane
>Arch summoner erasmus
>jeanne d'arc
>fairy princess
>beast dominator

I posted too fast, I forgot to type the last 2.
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>>170021272
if you're trying to make jank ramp decks out of whatever random cards you have, she's pretty decent
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Thanks for the replies about Saha, I might try out dragons but I don't know how much I'll like them.
>>170020615
Sorry, I was just playing against AI. Here they are; pretty underwhelming.
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They just confirmed more megalorca in the expansion
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>>170021084
>>Safe vials
>Beast Dominator
>Arch Summoner Erasmus
:(
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>>170021397
>>170021403
>>170021462
Oh shit I'm sorry
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>>170020984
>>170021032
>>170021084
>>170021149
Thanks anons
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>>170021272
>Cav the zirnitra
>Zirnitra+leviathan next turn
>2 dragons, levi, and zirn on the board
>Able to yoink any ward then force evo 10-11 face next turn
H-Hear!
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>>170021236
What if I play midsword?
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>>170021152
it's not the best legendary to put it lightly
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>completed all granblue quests instead of Forest
>cannot for the life of me win a match as Forest
>arena drafts never let me pick Forest

This is so miserable. Every Forest deck is so expensive and cheap alternatives are so awful. I'm not sure what to do at this point.
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>>170021498
Source.
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>>170021557
It's just a shitty card back. As long as you have Jeanne D'Arc you really don't need the rest.
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>>170021557
Craft 2 or 3 roach and try to win
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>Win some matches
>Most of the streak came from concedes
>I say hi
>They automatically leave
>One guy tried to get me to close the game by not doing anything on the card select

Free wins.
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>>170021526
mid sword actually counters me pretty hard, its probably one of the worst match ups for me. You'll lose to most other decks though.
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>>170021557
I had the same problem but with runecraft

I just ended up making some homebrew meme deck instead of trying to build a meta deck I couldn't afford
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Guys, I'm really worried about each class getting 2 legendaries in TotG. Now, I'm the kind of player who crafts good legos, and vials the meme and terrible ones. Before RoB release, I was able to save gold, despite missing a couple Seraphs and ignoring Dragonsong Flutes. When RoB release came I opened 56 packs including the 10 you got at launch. Now, I have playsets off all the RoB legos, including Eidolon. I started saving up gold around mid February, and I estimate that I will have roughly 8k gold by the time of TotG release. I finally thought the infinite f2p dream would be real, until I heard the 2 legos per class announcement. I really hope many of these legos will be meme tier. Otherwise, I won't be able to be f2p anymore! Please, tell me everything is going to be alright!
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>>170021557
I had to resort to a neutral deck for the forest missions. Saha package is strong.
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>>170021729
>D0
They are sandbaggers people who don't want to git gud
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For the new players, here is a list of the cards that are non-meta. They are meme or just bad cards. Keep if you like them and want to play with them, otherwise vial them, they don't see play in any serious constructed deck above A.
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>>170021820
They won't even give free packs this time.

is better you have some money bitch
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>>170021871

Sucks for them. They'd probably win because my deck is actually hot garbage.
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>>170020249
>whats a good deck for climbing AA->Masters?
>i've been playing aggro blood again recently and surprisingly its doing really well. I thought people said it dropped off around AA?

Aggro blood really doesn't drop off until you actually reach masters.

Even through AA3 you should probably be able to climb with aggro blood.
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>>170021820
Stop being autistic senpai.
Most of the legendaries won't even be meta.

Unless all of the legendaries are must crafts then you have a problem. I'm willing to bet only 0-1 of the class legendaries will be great, with whoever Cygames wants to push getting 2 good ones,
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>>170016308
But everyone know it's one of you, vampy avatarfags >>>169988849 Why do you even try? It's always the same thing for the Discord links, or those nonsense generals added in the OP, such as /hsg/.
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>>170021747
The only decks that counters me are aggro if I go first otherwise it works pretty well.
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>>170021729
sword sprees are so easy right now
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>>170021492
x1 Banquet if you don't want to atomeme
x1 devourer if you don't want to run count
x1 Curse, a hand neutral underdamaged spellboost removal is crap compared to all the hand neutral cantrips
x1 Phantom dragon if you don't want to off-curve midrange tempo shadow in the xpak. It's a dead 4-drop if you don't have a btter t4 play too.
x1 Ceridwen if you don't want her as a value card
x1 Lucius unless you want to keep him for another AoE against all the TotG tempo cards
Only 1500 vials sadly

If you don't care about ruining your other decks, you can vial pluto, princess, zirnitra, dragoon so you have 79600 vials for 3 Levi, a daria. and 2060 vials. You should get enough to craft the second daria in about a week. You can also not mangle your decks and play a more regular spellboost focused rune until you amass the vials to play it in a bit.

I sincerely recommend you sit on your hands since nothing you'll gain is worth setting yourself this far back but it's your library.

>>170021498
HEAR
E
A
R

4/4 RUSH AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE!
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>>170022092
The discord bullshit stopped days ago. It might come back but for now it's good.
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>>170022119
salamander breath, cyclone blade, foul tempest and themis made me stop using mid range and switch over to control
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>>170021557
Well since you didn't give us a fucking deck to look at or a vials count, or legos+golds I dunno what you expect us to tell you other than craft some roach/AE's and/or budget run aggro/tempo forest until it sticks
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>>170020249
Mind posting your list? I've been trying to figure out the optimal Aggro Blood lineup these days
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>>170022174
which archtype is superior right now?
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>replay channel
>7 losses
>3 wins
i want to die
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>>170022404
control
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Can I get a free win please? 44485
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tfw you eat a Baha to the testicles and go on to win because of 4 PtP pings while Rowen can't pull out a Storm to save his life.
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>>170021820
You fucking autist, there's 2 legos so they can give a lego to more than 1 archetype. Yes. Archetype. As you've clearly seen with Eachtar for midrange shadow that's unplayable in nep, they're trying to expand the meta, not shove soccer moms in everybodies list.
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>LMAO SUN SATAN

He obviously was going to themis, I bet he regretted that play.
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>>170022075
I'd like to think they'll use this additional leg slot to print a meme lego and a meta lego. They might release 2 meta legos for one craft, but it's a good change I think.

With more memes in the leg card pool, the good legendaries will be harder to complete, but we will have to deal with it.
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>hey lets make a high hp taunt card that not only kills the strongest minion your opponent has but heals off it's attack
>what rarity should it be I was thinking gol-
>make it silver rarity
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>>170022449
How do I get into control?
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>>170022469
Thanks to the qt vampy chan who helped me
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>>170022495
Cancer doesn't run storm, the board is his life.
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>>170022225
Thanks man. There's a 'budget' version of that spellboost deck that I prefer that focuses less on spellboost and more on offensive spellcasting, and costs about 8000 vials so I might just go with that for now.
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>>170022434
why bother
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>>170022265
If their discord is as big as I've heard, larger or about the same than Xiei's, then /svg/ is fucked.
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>>170021236
Post deck please
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My gut says left but I think right might be better. What do you guys think?
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haha xD we nerfed daria bros high five
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>>170022549
MOMMMM
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>>170022661
trade, always clear the board
save an albert and an evo for turn 9 for that 10 storm damage, chip away at them slowly, make them feel safe then drop an albert bomb and end it one go.
or get a bahamut cyclone blade going.
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>>170022871
You kiddin right?
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>>170022924
I actually don't know, all four are good cards
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>>170022646
>DE life
>All your wards have janky stats which usually results in the enemy followers surviving killing your ward necessitating having to crash a second minion, which you don't have any left on the board, or use a removal to deal with 1 enemy card which is suicide if you haven't kept spirit cycle up
Gee, I wonder why would kikegames give shadow a ward that wasn't still shit even after guzzling shadows.

>>170022897
Just foul tempest bro :^)
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>>170022897
Why'd you crop out your side of the board?
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>>170022757
see
>>170022920
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What the fuck is the point of Cyclone blade? This shit takes too much set up. You have to hope your opponent doesn't clear your high attack minion and if somehow lives next turn you have to spend 5 mana to kill your own fucking minions.
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>>170022697
I really, really wish this was true, but it's not. I've run into numerous Saha Ramps that managed to slot in Dorks and Geneshits, and the vast majority of my losses to Dragon in general are because of those cards and not the neutrals.
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>>170022756
They sometimes raid the general, if you see some vampy spam or an autist insisting that you should call vampy "vania", it's discord.

They don't fuck around with the OP anymore at least, but you can't stop those cancerous fucks from shitting up the thread from time to time.
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>>170022871
Go for Otohime.

Alexander is a good board clearer
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Well memed, wolf. Well memed.
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Post underrated waifus
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>>170022871
right, leonidas is too difficult to play since hes basially a turn 9 do nothing. You'll probably die the turn you play him unless you some how managed to save an evo point.
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>>170023035
Cause he's probably playing Daria as well.
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>>170023035
there is nothing there because she removed everything :^)
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>>170022920
>Leonidas t9
>It's dead t10
>Resolve evo headpat albert to the face for 18 dmg

>>170023107
Did he get to melt your board wih a pendant matriarch?
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>>170023057
This card don't kill the selected follower.

Also goes pretty well with ambushed shit like tsubaki and you can evolve 1 unique follower to clear an entire board
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>>170023065
>an autist insisting that you should call vampy "vania", it's discord.
Thanks for the heads up.
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>>170023057
Great with Tsubaki. Completely broken in Arena and just another card to make Sword unwinnable against in Arena.

It's strong in general. It forces the opponent to keep your board completely clear every single turn or you'll just Cyclone Blade them.
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>>170023057
it's a combo card for tsubaki or bahamut.
you can also drop a 2pp follower, evolve it and cyclone blade on turn 7 as a last resort for 4 aoe damage. 5 if you take cyclone solider.
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>>170023301
>It's strong in general. It forces the opponent to keep your board completely clear every single turn or you'll just Cyclone Blade them.
Some people are cuttin the card but in my ladder i still need to play around this shit because is really effective.
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>>170023135
NOW WHO'S TINY?
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>>170023198
I know it doesn't kill the one you select but it kills the minions you already have on the board, withc is retarded since sword is a board presense archtype.
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>>170023135
>Ironwrought and arthur's light are down
>Get a knight at the start of the turn
>Play monika
>Effects for 3 dmg
>3 more dmg reach with storm tokens
>Then can hit and survive a trade
>If they have a token heavy board, this is a board clear
She's magical to meme with
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>>170022756
>>170023065
I've been here for about 2 months and I've never seen any discord posted. People just complain about "duh discord", but I can't even tell if that thing exists or of its literally just shitposters falseflagging about a non-existing boogeyman.
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>>170023389
If you needed cyclone, you don't have a board.

>>170023420
They keep getting shitposted at when they don't lurk.
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>>170023389
maybe aggro sword or mid range, but they dont run cyclone blade, only control does. Control sword doesnt flood the board and instead drops high value single cards each turn.
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>>170023057
To make me orgasm every time I play it.
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>>170023420
Check the archives. If there's still any
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>>170023420
You really don't want discord back here
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I just started playing and want to try and go for all of the event rewards. I don't have a lot of cards yet though. Could you guys help me out with some basic ass basic only decks? I am especially struggling with bloodcraft and havencraft.
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>>170023669
Why would anyone be that autistic
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>>170023669
I love how each generation ruins nice things even more by acting like niggers
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>>170023669
We need some Daria emblem to illustrate.
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>>170023743
Run budget aggro/storm for all the decks. Your winrate sucks but you can slam it out. you can craft core class golds to beef yourself up without losing anything.
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>>170023420
I've been playing this game for 4 months and I've seen it posted many times. Early threads being made so some guy could add his discord link to the OP, early threads being made so some guy could remove the discord link from the OP, and the first 100 posts being arguments about the discord.
Personal experience says that discord channels just sap away posters from the general, and export their shitty drama/in group memes.
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Bloodcraft is my favorite class. I just wish it had better cards.

There's a lot of really good ones like Yurius and Bloody Mary, but there's more trash than gems.

What's your favorite class, anons?
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>>170023743
>blood
pic related
>haven
show your gold and legos and if you have satan or bahamut too
>>
What is the best Aggro Blood list right now?
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>>170024076
I'm totally fine with people fleeing to the discord, i just wish they'd be chipped so their head explodes if they come back to troll. Once you start nearing 100 posters the thread just goes too fast.
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>>170024107
Blood same reason but my favorite cards besides Yurius is Sexy
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>>170024076
Personally, I never use /vg/ discords because they're full of drama and autism.

I don't like that they bring it to their respective threads and shit them up.
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>>170023743
You're lucky because you'll be fighting people of your rank. Just focus on getting packs as faster as possible, then vial what's not listed in the netdeck of your choice for each craft.
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>>170022920
Damn the deck works great, thanks anon.
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>>170024107
Bloody Mary is not a good card. At the very least it isn't great. It sounds awesome on paper, but it requires a lot of card pieces to do anything worth doing. Compared to what other decks can do turn 8+, Mary combos are surprisingly underwhelming.

Control Blood has basically no great cards. It is defined by just having good or mediocre cards. It's why it can never compete with other Control Decks or with Combo Decks. It does their jobs, but worse in every way. It isn't even that good at stopping Aggro. There are better Control Decks for doing that, of which also have better win conditions.
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>>170024118
Can't he save 800 vials by dropping 1 fortress without too much power loss? He probably only has about 5 golds of vials to fix up 7 decks
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>Punishing unga shitters

There is no better feeling.
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>>170024323
He can run without vampiric fortress and add gobu really fine
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>>170024107
Forest. I love it. Tempo Forest is enjoyable as fuck. Fuck OTK Roach.

It used to be Sword, when it wasn't removalverse. I hate how Sword is played since RoB.
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>>170024118
>aggro blood
>blood pact

D rank?
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>>170022920
Why is Monika so perfect?

>>170024347
Hag is just as cancerous.
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>>170024107
>>170024237
This card is really underrated for how good it is.
I'm surprised I don't see it more often.
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Do people hard mulligan for Albert or something? They always have this shit by turn 5, regardless of if they played Maid Leader or not.
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Can I get a concede? 53262
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>>170024347
Chemo Be!
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>>170024424
>that sped up leader bouncing
I don't know why I like this, but I do
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>>170024107
Dragon, it's truly the home of the memers

>>170024468
It's like a 55% chance with 3 copies.
Many maid leaders is setup to 100% tutor albert.
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>>170024497
Thank you bone man
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>>170024453

It's a great arena card.
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>not a single card under 4 PP has been revealed yet
Is aggro fucking dead?
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>>170024453
there's just better options. control has erinyes they can use instead since she kills a t5 albert and still lives while aggro has veight, killer devil, gobu, and mini soul to choose from in that slot.
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>>170024453
Probably because it would only have value in a meta where there are a lot of aggro decks.

In other words, I have no idea why Aggro Blood hasn't been running it since this expansion hit.
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>>170024638
>no Forte leader
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>>170024638
I really really want to Themis it.
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>>170024497
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>>170024347
>Aggro are shitters
>Midrange are shitters
>Control are shitters
>Dickshift are shitters
Then what the fuck can I fucking play you child fondling fucking faggot fucker?

>>170024668
Goblin zombie, baphomet, spiderweb imp?
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>>170024781
>Then what the fuck can I fucking play you child fondling fucking faggot fucker?
Meme decks only
Prepare your lord atomys
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>>170024745
>Spending vials on gifs and not your meme card gacha.
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>>170024781
JO Dragon
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>>170024668
retardpost?
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>>170024949
Lamest meme in this general.
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>just roped a dshit for 20 minutes
feels empty desu
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>>170024920
I think its worth it desu

She's cute and her voice lines are pretty good
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>>170025163
Fighting the good fight, anon. I rope all dshifts as punishment for playing such a broken and unfun deck.
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>>170024605
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>>170025163
that's the least a dshitter deserves desu

they are lower than insects
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>>170024347
>storm
>not unga
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>>170024781
as someone who plays all archetypes I can attest that midrange is the most skill testing, and relatedly the archetype I enjoy playing the least
the relative linearity of aggro, dshift, and grinder style control means that you will basically never commit a strategic error while playing them, even if the tactical turn-to-turn probability math might be difficult in terms of judging what to play around and what not to play around
a deck that can successfully operate at several different tempo paces, however, requires you to choose what pace to commit to, opening the possibility of being catastrophically wrong and missing the forest for the trees. big pain in the ass, really
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>>170024781
>child fondling


Uhh I play with eris she is no child. If your deck consist of only going face to win you are a shitter. If your deck has a wincon that wins through trades and outvalueing your opponent you are not a shitter, heck daria takes more thinking then just go face. Although they can be just as retarded. So there you go you piece of shit faggot kys :^)
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>>170025163
>dshift was probably busy jerking off on exhentai between during his opponents turns anyway
I love when people think they're actually doing annoying the opponent while roping when the opponent is just fucking afk/tabbed out anyway (unless they're JP in which case they're phoneposting fucks probably)
You're wasting your own time more than you're wasting theirs
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I'm not sure how this works but I think I get an achievement. Happy to play or just to concede
88228
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>>170024902
VIOLET 1 STANDING BY
VIOLET 2 STANDING BY
VIOLET 3 STANDING BY
VIOLET 4 STANDING BY
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>>170025249
She has my gf features...I must dress her up as shorte....
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>>170025419
and do you think im staring at the game window not doing anything on the side
grow a brain
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>>170025429
If it's for the 20x100 gold achievement you can't concede. Hang on, I'll give you a hand.
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>>170025163
I just read the thread when someone ropes me. Doesn't bother me in the slightest

>>170025325
>Spam removal for 4 turns
>Setup the bangin' dock
>Donk'd
So much thinking, wow!
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>>170025293
Sure let me just go face with these amulets in my hand you fucking retarded subhuman. Storm just allows me to keep up with opponents pace, unless your D shift Storm Haven is not going full on face, they will trade and outvalue you through smartly placed amulets. There's a reason it isn't popular.
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>want the grandblue forte card sleeve
>have to play dragon
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>>170025585
Thank you for your help
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>>170025689
Uh.....

>>170025690
Just ramp and storm dude. You'll nut
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>>170025793
The only thing that makes me nut nowadays are fat anime butts
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>>170025703
Playing 20 different players gives a total of 2000 gold, so rev up those private match rooms
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Best of 2 shitty choices?
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>>170025903
Oh, I didn't realize it was so much. They seem to pour alot of free stuff on you.
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Forest is a joke craft? why they have a 2pp 2 3 taunt lego?
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Fun fact, he concedes 2 turns later.
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>>170025970
Wow, you weren't kidding
At least nep can sometimes get you a zombie or some shit, go left
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>>170025984

Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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>>170025970
left and pick khawy and lichs
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>>170025984
They do
>>170025990
Either stop baiting so hard, or learn to read.
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>>170025997
I love seeing runefags get the dick
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>>170025970
Go for Neph and build a deck around her
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>>170025970
Think of nep as a 8 pp 5/5 gain 4 shadows and it's not all that bad
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>>170025997
Hear hear
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Concede please:
41246
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>>170025793
or discard dragon
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>>170026205
someone needs to cum on that figurine hello?
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Need a Concede.
78744

Or can play it out if you need or want.
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>>170026205
I mean I guess he can blow 4800 vials on fates and breaths but for something he doesn't play that feels kind of ick
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>>170026190
Thank you Mr.Rowen for letting me hear the dragons roar
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>>170024781
>Then what the fuck can I fucking play you child fondling fucking faggot fucker?
Only the noble ambush sword
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>>170026279
Thanks.
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>>170026290
>blow 4800 vials

Implying he hasn't already crafted the best deck in the game.
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>daria shitter on ladder
What is this? February?
>doesn't kill my luci even though I had an evolve point left
A lot of people seem to underestimate the damage that fucker puts out when he evolves
That's 13 and with a genesis adds to 20

Learn from this /svg/
Always kill the luci
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I think game is trying to tell me something.
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How do I enable recording on my device? It was fine last time.
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How do I farm elana fags? This shit is frustrating.
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>>170026658
Just Bahamut it bro.
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>>170026658
Ramp Dragon, DShift
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Someone please post a neutral dick I want to get my forest sleeves
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>>170024118
>Dem golds
Really dude? I said I just started playing..
Why do you think I asked for a basic decklist.

>>170024282
And what would be the fastest way? Take 2, I assume? What is the break even point in that mode?
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>>170026309
>Rowen talk's all about the dragon's roar

>Draconification is unplayable because they can't rush them and they have bad draw even if it can fuck morde/khawy
>Zirnitra doesn't give dragons rush and is too slow compared to the powercreep these days
>Wyrm spire is slow, unreliable and dragon has bad draw
>tmog wyrm is a dead draw on curve and an expensive poor play later as a pseudo 6-8 drop

H-Hear....
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>>170014774
you are the problem, avatarfag

leave the thread
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>>170026658
Oh whatever could you do friendo?

Neutral: Execution (200 vials), Odin (3500), bahamut (3500)
Forest: Carnivorous flower (200) Sword to woodlands (200)
Shadow: goetia mage (200)
blood: Geryon (200)
Dragon: Dragonrider devil (200 ), Orb dragon (800 )
Rune: Petrification (200), shadow witch (200), Kaleido (50), Rite of exorcism (50)

Just kill them
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>>170026867
Just want you to show what you have maybe something can help to create a deck for you
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>double lurching corpse into goblin mount
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>>170026867
It's just 5 golds.
You rerolled until you got 7+ legendaries with your starter packs, right, anon?
You should have more than enough vials to craft a blood aggro deck, it's the cheapest "good" deck in the game.
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>>170027067
That's fucking genius
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>>170016695
holding as aggro blood vs control is literally retarded

people hold vs cblood when they have some wincon they can drop later and are afraid of 4pp revelations, you neither have a late game wincon, nor you should be afraid of board clears

stalling as aggro blood vs cblood you lose your only chance to win
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I'm ending this duel and you can't stop me.
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did not think this was a 5 win deck but I guess with 3x monika's anything is possible
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>>170016853
those hair and chest hint it's a boy

>>170016953
and those skellies see "her" under skirt
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>>170027487
Looks a lot like my recent 5-0.

It just dominates the early and mid game while having just enough bombs to pull things out if a game drags too long.
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>tfw actually ranking up with wildfang OTK

I thought you guys said it was a meme?
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>>170027487
Doesn't seem too bad.
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>>170020249
that bat literally looks like a pokeball
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>>170027730
nigga you high
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>>170027693
It's not.
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>>170025997
Well he was kinda fucked if he didn't manage to topdeck burn right after you baha'd him.
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>>170027487
>gets otohime and odin
>did not think this was a 5 win deck
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>>170026047
>Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Holy shit I didn't know this was for 20x100g either. I'll need to do this in a couple hours when I get home.
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>>170027059
you can't kaleido elana iinm
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>>170027837
He probaly already used all burn
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>>170028251
Literally 50% of daria is burn
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GO BLOODKIN
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>>170027487
Otohime is still a good card in itself, she's just countered by virtually every deck running full board wipes now.
Which, in Take2, the enemy is obviously not guaranteed to get, so she really shines there.
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>>170028293
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>>170028293
I want vampy chan to lick me like that! :3
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>>170028293
can you make him lick something else?
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>>170028629
DON'T LEWD THE BAT
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>>170028382
Damn, that's an old meme
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>>170028293
>>170028382
bats are really top cute
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Do you guys have problem with the number of Odin in your deck? I have 2 Odin and he is messing up my draw a lot. I consistently pull him over other 3x cards
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>>170028629
>two tails
?
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The top master is as blood player and he use Vampy leader
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>>170029381
I run 2 odins

He wins me more games than he loses me

And he frequently loses me games
It's an amazing card though
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>>170029381
He is sa fine card late game.

I would use three if my third wasns't asnimated
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>>170029428
>the most autistic player in the game is a vampyfag
is that supposed to be a good thing?
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>>170029512
soon to be taken out of every list by the new epic, complex and deep mechanic of invincible followers
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>>170029418
She's got 3 even I think
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>>170029428
Bampy is for removing.
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>>170029537
>he chooses to use non foils over foils
Absolutely disgusting
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>matched against cblood
>does nothing for 8 turns beside drawing and milling cards
>then floods the board with 3 and 2 drops
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>>170029717
I don't use non-set casrdsd in my decksd
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>>170029428
vampy power!

>>170029418
nekoma.. inumata!

also look at her gbf sleeves and count the tails there :3
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>>170026412
I play ambush but honestly I don't find uriel to be very useful.

Its like, if the latest you can get up rogues creed is turn 5, with the help of uriel, you've probably already lost the game unless your opponent is super stupid.
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>>170029840
3 odins are overkill though
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>>170029381
I run 2 of him but have a deck where I put 2 fangblade instead.
Both are pretty good, I just make sure to switch between them since running odin and fang would probably just clog up my hand.

If you really need to counter seraph and morde there is no alternative, you gotta run 2 or more for consistency.
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>>170027984
It's an amulet hit hit. t.Sacred (1) Fug XDD
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>>170030009
End your life my man
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Can i get a concede? 12160

Thanks.
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>enemy haven uses themis before attacking face, wasting 4 damage
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>>170030301
The signal of a seraph shitter.
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>>170030301
Enstatued Seraph does not care how much hp the enemy has, animeposter
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>>170029879
unless i am mistaken she has about 5 tails!
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>>170030274
Thanks, my man.
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>>170026658
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>>170019696
It should get this guy >>170016249
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>HOLY SHIT AA3 IS NO LONGER A DREAM

THANKS CYGAMES FOR THE NERFS, LADDERING IS NO LONGER CANCER!!!
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Matches with Rowen are truly the most bonkers stuff around.
>>
I don't deserve this
>>
I've gotten my animated Bahamut reward so I crafted 2 more and a third Sahaquiel and it's been fun playing the new ramp dragon (I already have the older stuff like 3X Forte, Satan, and Genesis)! However I decided not to craft any Lucifers since I want to see what the new expansion brings first with their 2 Dragon legendaries and other Neutral. In the meantime what should I add to make up for lack of Lucifers?
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>>170031187
>Havenfag
Yes you do.
>>
can I get a concede?
12673
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>>170031187
Blood players don't play fair, anon. Don't mind those subhumans.
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>>170031316
>le heavencraft class is le cancer

please go to the nearest river and snap your neck
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>>170031187
>Storm haven
Uh yeah, you do. If you had a defender or heals you'd have outlasted and killed him.
>>
Just reached Masters, can someone explain how the score rewards work? Do you have to be near the very top to get anything at all?
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>>170031220
lucifer is irreplaceable in his ability to heal for obscene amounts.
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>>170031523
thanks vampy
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This shit is neverending
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>>170031180
I fucking hate Dragon mirrors, especially SahaLuci mirrors. It's already turn 6, you have a Bahamut, you know he has a Bahamut, and you know he knows that too, so the next however many turns are just both of you beating around the bush with heals for days until somebody finally blinks.
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>>170031637
Monthly score rewards are gross score gain
Masters rewards are the same
The top is off off of your current masters score rank which you can check in your profile.
>>
THESE NEW STORY BOSSES ARE FUCKING BULLSHIT
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>>170031726
and that's why you run a second Bahamut..
Never go half-retard
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>>170031740
So being in Masters is the same as being in any other rank in terms of rewards unless I get into like the top 100?
>>
Can someone help me with my private quest?
63572
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>>170031771
Git fucking good and play to win
>>
Can someone help me and explain how to trigger Mana Elk? I don't get what it does.
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>>170031694
>play take two in arena
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>>170031913
each time a fairy attacks the enemy leader loses 1hp or something
its trash
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>>170031771
pretty easy to beat their pretty funny
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>>170031881
top 1000/100 yeah
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>>170031881
Top 100 or top 1000. But this month, they haven't announced any rewards for master ranking.
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I feel dirty. How do I atone for my sins?
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>>170031892
Thank you!
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>>170031726
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Eris is young and sexy!
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>>170031913
It does 1 face while you're trading faeries to keep the board clear
It does nothing because it can easily be evo traded or removal'd

>>170032051
Play a dragonsong flute deck
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>>170032051
Fap to eris and she will forgive your sins!
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>>170031997
Ah it should be a fairy? So that's what the 1/X means. Any 1 damage follower you have I think?
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>>170032051
>2 fucking Albert in T2
Wew.
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>>170032040
>>170032012
So there's no point my even playing the game anymore except for dailies and monthly rewards which would apply at any rank? Becoming a master has actually reduced my incentive to play?
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>>170032051

That looks eerily similar to my 5-0 sword yesterday.

Except it was x2 Otohime, and x1 Albert.
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>>170032178
I draw him every game. I finished with him 4 out of 5 times. Card is fucked.
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>>170031854
I run 3. Between Odins, Bahamuts and Date Masamunes, it's a massive pain in the ass to get anything to stick. Plenty of my mirrors are decided by Satan instead.
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>>170032110
source?
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>>170032183
Yes you beat the game, congratulations. Please do not try to compete for top 1000 with me!
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>>170031142
More like thanks panda for tricking all the Daria retards into playing some shitty sword deck.
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>>170025997
Sahaquiel Bahamut is my favorite meme.
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>>170032171
That's what the card specifically means.

Any 1/X follower, not just fairies. So May, Goblin, and Water Fairy also work.

Its only purpose is to let you both trade and simultaneously deal damage by mulching 1/1s usually. However there are more important uses for fairies and in many cases just using Dancer/Wind God/Cynthia to buff is far better. Or Soccer Mom evolve to get their value into a huge ward while keeping your fairies as combo pieces or back on board behind Soccer Mom.
>>
Late game nep is SO fucking retarded holy fucking shit. I was 20hp he had no board and i just sataned and i still fucking lost because of morde and khawy. Theses cards make control decks LITERALLY fucking unplayble.
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>>170032547
>Soccer Mom
Who's that.
>>
>>170032547
Why is Ancient Elf nicknamed Soccer Mom? Is it because she picks up all the "children" from the field?
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>>170032587
Git gud
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>new dragon card revealed
>more discard shit

make
it
stop
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>>170032587
>has a though early but retarded strong endgame because the deck is built around that
>haven will get pretty much the same thing havin the best earlygame tools
i hope you're hyped! :^)
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>>170032587
That's why you should be playing JO Dragon bro. If you could charge up Astaroth's dick with JOOO power it's an instant kill, Mordecai bows to you and sucks you off
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>>170032301
This guy's twitter
https://twitter.com/nerotarou2
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>>170032587
Ramp Dragon beat Nep shadow 90% of the time. You reach late game faster and has stronger late. There is nothing they can do against Luci rush combine with Baha with Satan and Odin as back up. You can also draw Satan deck faster than anyone
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>>170031220
northing can do the same of lucifer.
but is better you pack some heals in your deck

>>170032692
discard dragon need more support to be good hope they give more 20 discard cardsa
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>>170032692
This ones alright though
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>>170025997
>Same thing happen to me
>He draw Demonic Strike next turn
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>>170033034
>budget fafnir
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>>170033034
>mfw rushing and dropping this after they flood their Daria
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>>170033071
Better Fafnir as he comes down a turn earlier and does 1 more damage.
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>>170033034
No it's another one that discards a card and increase stats by 1.

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>170032918
You have literally no fucking idea what youre talking about
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>Make card that solves almost all of CBlood's problems
>Give it to a class that doesn't have those problems so it can win more instead
Hmm
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>>170033034
This actually sounds like an amazing card for T2
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>>170033375
Yeah Control Shadow was super oppressive in DE, how could they have done this
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>Try to get Forte sleeve in casual with Dragonmeme Flute

>Get paired up with full Sahaluci Ramp whose Satan's very first card topdecked exact lethal

And it was so close, too. I had lethal on board.
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>>170033375
>make a card that makes control decks completely worthless
>lol it costs 7pp and can be summoned with nep
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I just lost 2 matches in a row that I could have won if I had gone second instead of first.
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>>170032982
Well, it's not a replacement at all, but using 2 Gilgamesh instead at least do their own thing and help in DShift matchups/beat Seraph without Odin. For other healing is it just Healing Angel? I'm tempted to be greedy and use Satan but since I cut all Wyvern Cavaliers, I probably shouldn't
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>>170033481
it's ok because nep bricks 90% of the time
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>Busy tabbing back and forth
>Mulligan all the high cost cards by instinct
>Notice it's Haven
>Notice I tossed away Odin
>"M-maybe it's Storm Haven"
>It's Seraph
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I want to play sun satan. I don't have any satans or odins and only have 2 themis. I have 3k vials and 3.6k gold. How should I go about doing this? What should my deck look like?
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>>170021084
>vialing Dominator when Spiderweb Imp exists
You're going to regret it.
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Any other new players want to pound out a bunch of private matches to grab the 2000 coins? I'm happy to play the matches out or just let you beat on me. Say 'Good game' when you join if you want to play them out
34159
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someone post the funny discard dragon deck (non-otk version)
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>mfw i didn't see a single daria or roach today

w-we did it?
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>>170033704
The funniest thing about the gobu nerf is she actually makes my gobu aggro necro better.
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>>170033613
If you don't have the cards and can't craft them you simply can't play the deck at all. Those are the core cards
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What's more likely: Drafitng a strong neutral card or getting 20 shadows in a match?
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>>170033613
Sun Satan is shit, it's an objectively worst ramp Dragon (which is why dragon is one of its worst match ups). Just put Satan in your ramp Dragon. If your control Haven deck doesn't have Seraph, it's a meme.

If you want to Satan that badly, just put a copy of it in your pure Seraph deck as back up against 3 Odin decks. Elana Seraph hybrid is still Haven's best deck.
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>>170033840
go left, balor is better than cerb anyway
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>>170033840
Yes.
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>Shadowcraft gets ANOTHER meme legendary
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>170033704
I've been seeing tons of Daria, you're high
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>>170033785
Why tho? How does decreasing your chance of getting a Reaper/late game Mummy makes it better?
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>>170033973
I like drawing my 1 drops from it as well. It thins my deck, and it helps me curve out perfectly.
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>>170033924
They already revealed the second shadow one for tog? That sounds unlikely
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>>170033924
How is Eachtor meme?
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>>170033496
Almost like going second increases your chance to win by 10% in everything but aggro.
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>>170033924
>WAAAAHHHH WE DID NOT GET ALBERT AND DARIA, WE ONLY GOT THE THIRD BEST LEGENDARY IN ROB, AND AN EXTRA LEGENDARY DISGUISED AS A SILVER
Fuck off faggot, do you want Eidolon of memes or any of Blood's """"""legendaries""""" instead? How about DOOT or discard memes on an understatted body instead? God you fucking Shadow whiners are the absolute fucking worst.
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>>170034037
The one drops might as well be tokens past turn 3, but if it's been working out for me maybe I could try her again and see how it goes.
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>>170034194
Vampy belongs on my dick!
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>>170033859
I hope aegis works with guardian sun
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>>170033785
Post dick
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>>170034086
He's another massive lategame shadow sink when Shadowcraft historically struggles maintaining shadows in the lategame.
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>>170034194
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>>170034203
wew calm down your autism there lad
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can I get a concede?

Room ID: 90287
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>>170034203
>""""""legendaries"""""
Bloody Mary + Soul Dealer is literally 9 mana 10 damage + overstatted bodies
Bloodhungry Matriarch is underpriced AoE
Beast Dominator makes my dick hard
Nice try crossposter
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>>170034371
>lategame shadow sink

Deathly Tyrant and?????? Eachtor is crazy good.
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>>170034308
I hope you can kill him with Bane.
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>>170034308
It won't, and it doesn't need to. Aegis is an alternate Satan that comes a turn earlier, and doesn't force you to get rid of all of your removal. You just use it to go face, without having to worry about having no answers to Bahamut, because apocalypse deck bricks half the time.

Aegis is what Haven needed for a good Sun deck. Satan was actually the weak link, not the protection package.
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>>170033924
Shadowcraft will always get meme legendaries. They're one of the classes meant to be very accessible to budget players through a combination of a very open class mechanic and their major functionality being rooted in low-rarity cards.
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I'm still not sure if this was supposed to be Atomeme, Tyrant, or both.
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>>170033924
Shadow don't get meme cards, they get cards that tell stories while meme cards are for Dragon.
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>>170033034
literally fucking fafnir
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>>170033924
Eachtor honestly seems pretty damn strong even if his most suitable deck isn't great.

He has a lot of possible uses and at base he'll very likely clear most boards given a decent amount of Shadows.

He pretty much forces your opponent to clear a turn 6 board which could be Death's Breath or 2 Bone Chimeras.

Even if you don't have board, he still acts as a huge Tempo push/partial board clear while having a well-statted body. He also doesn't require evolve to do so.

His biggest downside is his shadow cost if you're using him for zombies though it's hard to have an empty board and not any shadows somehow. Even if you used them all on a Death's Breath which got fully cleared, that's still 4 shadows back for 1 zombie.
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>>170034481
I can guarantee you it won't, otherwise it's literally worthless, like Skullfam worthless. We already have meta cards that cost less, and are lower rarity that can deal with it (Fangblade), and it's competing as a wincon against Seraph, which ends the game on turn 9, as opposed to swinging face for damage.

They're not stupid enough to make their new shiny legendary obsolete out of the gate.
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>playing unga shadow
>battles an unga blood
>he plays his wolfs, vanya and wraiths, always going face
>i keep trading and maintaining board control
>turn 6 i go face, he has now just 1 hp
>wins

Why do ungas blood have the mental capiblity of a cavemen
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I have 385 wins and just hit AA0. Am I a shitter or is this OK?
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>>170032183
No shit sherlock. Play t2 for deck drafts or play meme decks now that you have the cards for it. If you got this far only to realize you don't actually like card games, seek professional counseling.
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>>170034821
>He pretty much forces your opponent to clear a turn 6 board
Oh man, how will opponents ever manage to do this in removalverse
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>>170027059
>Execution
Turn 5, Elana already did its job by then
>Odin
People keep it in case it's Elana Seraph
>Bahamut
Only ramp can utilize it before dying
>Forest
Forest is dead
>Shadow
Requires shadows, Haven doesn't let you have those
>Blood
Requires Vengeance, you're dead by then
>Dragon
Shitty 6 drop and shitty 9 drop
>Rune
Petrify is being kept for Seraph in case it's Elana Seraph
Shadow Witch is only run in literal anti-haven decks
Kaleido can't hit Elana, but can stop the t4-t5 unstoppable board or delay their draw
Exorcism isn't run because dirt has enough removal already

Yes the bait was delicious, thank you for asking.
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>>170034408
thanks dragon meme man
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EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME
>Win streak on Take Two
>Third Game
>Opponent is Swordcraft, Goes Second has a god like curve and amazing draft
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TAKE TWO

I WISH I were exegeratting. i don't have a single 5er streak because of this shit happening, 'literally' every time I win my first two matches.
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>>170033653
good game buddy
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>>170032618
Ancient Elf

>>170032692
It's a good pressure card that's always relevant

>>170033692
There's no 1 list because what you pack drastically affects performance.

>>170033924
>Tempo shadow
>Meme
Heh
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>>170034443
Death Breath, Tempest, Charon, Howl. You play any of those cards and all the shadows you saved up form your early curve is gone, making Eachtor useless. The scaling on shadow generation is really bad because cards still generate only 1 shadow no matter how expensive they are (and you want to be playing more expensive cards because shadow has shit sustain) and there are no good expensive cards that generate lots of shadows except non-necromancy Death's Breath.

The best shadow generators are amulets, which makes a lot of Luna's best necromancies (and also Eachtor) worse just by having them. I desperately hope that Eachtor is a sign that Cygames will use this expansion to make necromancy less shit and instead viable as an actual core, much like how RoB focused specifically on making the sacrifice mechanic more prevalent.
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>>170026658
Ramp Dragon, Seraph, D.Shift, Wolf combo for a favored match up.

Everything else that isn't aggro or Shadow for an equal match up.

You're not farming Haven with Shadow, you have a counter, deal with it. I literally automatically concede against Elf, because I'm playing control Blood.
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>>170035068
Oh shit, a time traveller from DE. Spoiler: Cygames didn't increase Elana's cost to 5 and it's a tier 3 deck now.
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>>170034821
Seems entirely win-more. Guess they had to give midrange a leggo since aggro and control already had one. Second legendary will give birth to 2678 Nep.
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>>170035197
If only you kept board presence then used him for value board clear with your tokens and liches
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I'm honestly fine with every class in the game except runecraft

That class is fucking aids
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>>170035112
I get that every single time I play against Sword in T2. I don't think the drafting allows them to get a bad curve.
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>>170035386
i hate haven with my soul but i have to agree, rune is legitimately the only problem the game has
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>>170035305
The shitter ranks are usually an expansion behind when it comes to netdecking, so this should come as no surprise. It's also usually retards with no concept of counters. They expect their aggro Shadow/Sword/Blood/Daria netdeck to have no bad match ups, only favored or equal ones.
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>tfw Reina hits your board of zombies and Liches
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>>170035386
>>170035460
I do have to admit it's the most diverse craft in the game though. Unlike Sword that just trades and hits at different speed or forest where more than half the deck is always the same, rune has at least 3 completely different play styles, plus memes like Conjuring Force snowman.
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>>170035417
>I don't think the drafting allows them to get a bad curve.
Realistically, the way Sword works its really hard to have a bad curve with it no matter what.
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>>170034418
>tfw no meme peddler
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>>170035687
Not a single deck that doesn't abuse its broken mana cheat mechanic is even remotely good though. Even dirt is only good, because of Levi/Piercing Rune.

Dragon is more diverse, and doesn't need to be pure bullshit to achieve that.
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>>170035687
>sword
>trades
Umm shadowbbs??
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>>170035305
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>>170035356
>playing a glorified wind god to trade into the opponent's board
>"value"
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>>170035197
Death's Breath refunds you 4 of its 6 shadows, 3-damage Tempests are rarely used if you play midrange shadow that focuses on removal and value trades (i.e. the deck Eachtor would work well in), nobody plays Charon and Howl is only played to win the game anyway so it doesn't matter that it drains your Eachtor.

I play midrange shadow almost exclusively and in many of my games I start getting to upwards of 20 shadows even if I'm burning breaths and tempests, purely because most of my followers generate multiple shadows. If you've got a Khaiza package running then stuff gets out of hand fast. In addition if the game is going remotely well by turn 7 you won't even need 12 shadows since you'll have your sticky followers on the board still. Eachtor is seriously good and might just make the whole deck jump a tier.
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>>170035687
Dragon's the most diverse.
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>>170035657
Nigga you need Loomis, 3 pp neutral spell
Destroy a card with shitty art and banish it's artist back to the art school
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>>170035657
Wind God but for health, to make all of your followers T H I C C
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>>170035846
>me trade, but me still go face
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>>170035849
You're not supposed to let elana buff itself that much though.

Remove every single follower from the board the moment it's been put.
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Rune players I fucking swear.
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>>170035932
Spirit cycle pride, midrange wide
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>>170028434
I want Vampy-chan to make me feel good
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>>170036042
IF THE FACE PLAYS WARD
no no no
ME STILL GO FACE
yeah yeah yeah
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>>170035151
Good game!
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>>170035417
What really gets to me is the going first every single third game. Going first in Take Two is basically playing with massive handicap.
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>dat one nigger who is roping the whole game and still lose

LMAO
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>>170035849
That was all in 1 turn, the only thing to have answered that was Kaleido to delay it or Petrify to get rid of Elana before Aria popped.
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>>170035657
1/6 ward 4pp
Last words: put 1 elf child may into your hand
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Do you think shadow will get more shadow generation?
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Can someone concede for the daily mission? Reply to me before starting if you still need the private match achievement or want to trade concedes.

32868
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>>170036206
meant for >>170036045
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>>170035849
Elana is so bad it even loses against neutralcraft look at this screenshot for proof
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>>170036042
if you hit a timeless bitch with him, will the enemy leader take damage?
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I hope this will be the expansion that finally gives Shadow their own copy of Themis.
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>>170036237
Do you think dragon will get more discard cards?
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>>170036063
me go face
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>>170036341
>turn 4 themis for shadow
It's okay because shadow is the death and decay class.
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>>170036325
i'm pretty sure it does the damage before it kills the follower so they wouldn't but fuck if i know how the mechanics work they never do how i think
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>retarded storm dragon player leaves lethal on my board
unga bunga forte
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>>170036063
That's the correct play though retard
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Consider the following:
>a shadow amulet that takes the shadows of destroyed enemy followers
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>>170031694
damn, that was fast. only defeat against another havencraft.

I now need 6 dragoncraft and I'll be free of this game
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>>170036429
It's not like Shadow has any lategame, or things like haven amulets to maintain a board thorugh their wipes.
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>shadowbb still crying about?????
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There's any viable forest deck that doesn't require unga roach?
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>>170036318
huh, i have literally fought cinnamon with the same deck - sektor, aotw, khaize, as otk roach yesterday

she got roached
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>>170036325
I'm pretty sure it works just like DoD.
The destroy effect takes place before the damage.
The only exception is if the opponent would die from the attack, for example
>enemy is at 3hp
>attack with fang
>it shows the damage before destroying the follower
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>>170036341
I'd like an 7 mana banish all
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>>170036325
No. The damage is dealt before the battle resolves, at which point Timeless is still actively protecting the player.

Dance of Death, Piercing Rune, and other cards like Matriarch that deal damage after they kill something will hit the face, though.
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>it's been 2 days
>the main ToG page on the official website still only has 3 cards on it
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>>170036343
it already got one revealed discard card
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>>170036063
He's spellboosting his hand dude

>>170036580
Any kind of aggro/tempo list. But roach unquestionably makes it stronger and more consistent
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>>170036591
>huh, i have literally fought cinnamon with the same deck - sektor, aotw, khaize
There's only so many ways to make a neutral deck
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>>170036638
God no, control has too much shit already. There's no fucking point in playing a game of 8-11 turns of my every play being removed. I didn't come to watch a guy play fucking solitaire
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>>170033924
>Shadow gets an amazing midrange legendary
>Shadow players call it shit
This shit right here is why no one likes you shadowfags
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>>170036617
>>170036690
hm
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>>170036237
We're three expansions in and Necromancer has FINALLY received it's first Necromancy legendary, and he's the first card revealed. If they don't have a ton of necromancy support in this expansion that people will want to use with the new legendary then Cygames has no goddamn idea what they're doing.

It's no longer a question of whether they'll get more shadow generation, it's a question of whether we'll also get Zombie synergy on top of it.
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>Play around Salamander Breath
>Run into the ONE (1) Dragon player who still uses Conflageration

How do you fucks curve perfectly into Saha-Luci and then Satan every time.

If I did that shit I swear i'd brick every game bt no you just manage fine.
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>>170036859
b-b-but muh banishcaust, never forget the 6 million last word followers
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>>170036859
>"shadow" players
Bandwagoners don't count. They're retarded cancer anywhere they flock.
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>>170036859
wah wah give me stronger khawy plz also more removals
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>>170036859
Oh yeah "Worse version of Phantom Howl" is totally going to define MidRange Shadow.
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>>170036843
>shadow
>control
Control is the one archetype that Shadow still cannot enter.
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>>170036983
git gud
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>>170037003shadowbbs are the unique retards calling aggro t1
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Three Shadow cards I want/made:

2pp, 2/1 "Groundskeeper"
Last Words: Summon a Burial Grounds.

4pp amulet, "Black Moon"
Your followers are destroyed twice when destroyed. (Couldn't word this very well, basically you gain double shadows, Last Words trigger twice, and effects like Shadow Reaper or Soul Eater trigger twice when an allie dies; but not from spells like Soul Conversion or the card below)

Body Conversion
1pp Spell
Destroy an allied follower. Restore 4 defense to your leader.
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>>170036972
>Spirit cycle to maintain your hand in midrange tempo as you vomit shit on the board
>Shadow generators
>Token generators
>Numerous ways to atomy/lich flood
>Spells for value trade and token generation
>Death's breath gives ward to your surviving zombie board+3 more
>Eachtor Lets them slam face or regain the board
>Off curve is a hellish gauntlet of token production, stat boost trades, and reach
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>>170037191
>Groundskeeper
trash
>Black moon
still trash but 4 mordecais seems pretty cool I guess
>Body Conversion
most trash of them all
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>>170035846
>>170037185
This autist has spent the last 30 minutes hatebonering over the most inoffensive class since the game's release.
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>>170037191
>CaC trash
Kill yourself
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>>170035687
I think Rune is the dev's pet craft.
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>>170037078
Keep 'em coming guys
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>>170037191
There's a feedback/suggestion button for a reason shithead. Use it. I got dev replies on my last one telling me to wait and see cause they had a similar but better idea to handle what I suggested
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>>170037191
black moon would be broken
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Is this the (control) legendary that shadow deserves?

Mordecai the Banished (Shadowcraft, Legendary)

8pp 5/5 evo: n/a

Rush.
When attacking an enemy follower, banish the enemy follower before it can deal any damage in return.

Evolve: Transform this follower into a Mordecai the Duelist.
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80786 private match - trade concede
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>>170036873
It's the second one. Fangblade's effect is worded the same as cards like Anne and Disaster Dragon, and their effects go off before the actual attack, and thus the Bane, hits.
The order in which the animations play out support this. If the enemy can be killed by Fangblade's effect, they'll die before their follower dies.
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>>170037449
oh, and body conversion too

actually they all are too powercreeped
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>>170037191
Black moon is way too strong by letting them play the overstatted versions constantly which provides the cover for their pseudo-momentum ramp cards to get on the board then run over the other guy.
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Should i run Aiela's in my saha ramp deck. People say it's staple but it feels kinda dead draw, especially in later turns.
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>shadow has 100% chance of summoning morde and khawy with nep
>sword has 100% chance of mulling quickblader
>rune has 100% chance to evo levi
>dragon has 100% chance to dragon oracle at turn 2
>forest has 100% chance to ancient elf at turn 3
>blood has 100% chance to ambling wrath into blood wolf
>haven has 100% chance of having themis at turn 6
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>>170037259
>spirit cycle
>tempo

Last Word/Sacrifice decks will remain the core of any tempo shadow deck because of Necroassassin and Corpse. A devoted necromancy class would probably be control-based because of the best necromancies historically being spells, and the biggest shadow generators being amulets.
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>>170036194
>trying to get Magisa sleeves by playing Daria in unranked
>get roped
>rope back while shitposting here and masturbating
>win before cumming anyway
>>
>The purple is an improvement
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>>170037605
Run draconification and urd. You can urd her early for 2pp and a board body. You can remove khawy/Morde and mangle fats while still beign able to turn your card cycles like ivory or dead draws like Aeila into soemthing useful.

>>170037618
>Sexton banquet will never be good
Reeeee
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>>170037617
there are people IN THIS BOARD, RIGHT NOW, who still think nep is random
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>>170037496
>can't even banish seraph
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>>170037654
do you masturbate at their leader?
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>>170037605
2pp ramp minimum is your life
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>>170037617
>>shadow has 100% chance of summoning morde and khawy with nep
>>sword has 100% chance of mulling quickblader
>>rune has 100% chance to evo levi
These are kind of bad examples.
You can rig Nep so that you actually 'have´' a near guarantee of them.
Mulligan Blader is more of a curse because often he's really bad as your first drop (Like against Rune and Forest(.
And Runes massive draw engine makes having any given card by turn 4 pretty likely.
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>>170037654
>playing Daria in unranked
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>>170037191
>"Groundskeeper"
Seems meh, basically a tamer for shadow. The issue is that no deck utilizes burial grounds extensively unless it's tyrant. So basically you would need more tyrant support. Also it could clog your board if you play more than one.

>Black moon
This LOOKS broken but so does other cards. If you have no other followers on the board to use LW, it's just a tempo loss. Seems slow with mordecai as well, but way too broken with khawy

>Body conversion
Looks ok
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>>170036542
>It's not like Shadow has any lategame
Lol
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>>170037617
Mate, every half-competent Nep deck will, on a empty field, always pull Khawy and Morde, that's how the deck is built,
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>>170037329
>most inoffensive class since the game's release.
This is what ungacrafters seriously believe
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anyone got that one video from twitter where the runecraft opponent bm's the player and they end up decking themselves out?
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>>170037787
>masturbating at hag
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Is it a bad thing that i love control sword and don't even have an olivia?
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>>170038148
she wants to be loved too!
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>>170037496
this seems incredibly useless, not sure what role you think this fills
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>>170038239
Olivia doesn't go in control sword, what the fuck are you talking about
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>>170037329
>flood, wards and storm: the craft
>inoffensive
kys
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>>170038321
>any control deck
>not having olivia
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>>170037992
Swords entire game is efficent trading and setting up lethal on board
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Will ambush sword finally get some new cards?
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>>170038321
You can toss 1 Olivia in midrange or control anything.
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>T2
>dragonfag has humpty on board
>can hit face cuz he played it one turn earlier
>he evolves it without attacking it
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>>170038365
>>170038414
I mean, I run one in many of my decks but it's the opposite of a staple. You just shove it in literally any deck that isn't aggro and you're going to enjoy having her. I don't think of csword when I think of olivia
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>>170038321
>control deck
>a control deck the burn through evo points like hotcakes(maybe im just bad) no less
>doesn't need olivia
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Need a concede for my daily
45088
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>>170037191
Groundskeeper is overpowered, but not so overpowered that there's no chance of it getting printed.

Black Moon is basically a 4 mana Seraph.

Body Conversion is the most fair card of them all- not good enough to see regular play but might see niche use anyway because of Shadow's extreme lack of healing.

Here's mine:

2pp spell, "Spirit Harvest"
Destroy an allied follower. Add two copies of that follower to your hand.
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what counters that new "midrange" sword cancer
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Someone link a Cynthia Elf deck pls
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>>170038554
>Eternal Kiwi
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>170038369
You don't really need to trade when more than a half of your cards have Storm and the other half is overstatted shit (fuck you Otohime, i don't miss you at all), just go face with everything and leave trading followers to your opponent.
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>>170038554
>Destroy an allied follower. Add two copies of that follower to your hand.
Triple Carrot.
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>>170038535
Thanks
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>she will never step on your balls
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>>170014575

Why does this picture seem like those nobles are saying with their eyes that Jeanne is a huge slut ?
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>>170038658
>>170038716
Superpowered Squash is overrated. Playing a bunch of vanilla 2/2s is usually not going to win you the game against competent decks.
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>>170038487
I don't see a reason not to run 1 olivia in decks that can consistently reach turn 9 every game, 3 extra evo points is too strong to pass up.
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>>170038640
Sararamp completely rapes it if you have 50k vials lying around. I'm 8-1 against it so far and the one loss is me bricking and him curving perfectly
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>>170038716
>3 khaizas, 3 carrots
>3 urds, 6 carrots
>3 spirit harvests, 18 carrots
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>>170038298
I want to put my p in her v!
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>>170038912
They are correct though, jeanee is dress like a slut
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>>170038969
deck? i'm using a super defensive but they have fang blade and albert do otk me
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>>170038554
body conversion is broken, kill ducking ghost, heal 4 hp, just as much as lucifer heals

it's a pure cancer and would be broken beyond ridiculousness
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>>170038383
Maybe but I wouldn't count on it. They only made Ninja Art for RoB and the enhance for it is actually pretty mediocre. And it doesn't bring out a new follower of course. It'd actually be funny if one of the new legendaries is ambush based though.
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>>170038705
Have you ever actually played a sword deck?
You do realize that only 3 guys with storm see any form of play at all right?
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>>170014575

SEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>170038705
>when more than a half of your cards have Storm
You don't get to trade anything in this meta without storm. The abundance of powerful removal effects ensured that.

Sword needs to go face against decks that kill it in the long run, which is, pretty much all deck right now. Daria has just plain better cards, Roach fucks you with Ancient Elfs, Dragon removals and heals you out of the game, Haven heals you out of the game, Blood can outburst you.
Only things you can afford trading with is Shadow (unless they got Cerberus into PH) and Blood (where you need to trade). Everything else you have literally no chance if you even try to trade extensively.
And thats not a AggroSword thing, thats a "every aggro" thing. Sword still trades more than any other Aggro deck because it has to. It wants to survive for Albert, while the other ones finish earlier.
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>my mordecai get's odin'd on T2

WHAT ARE THE FUCKING CHANCES
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>>170023065
Discord boogeymen don't come to spam opinions you disagree with in the thread. I call her Vania and I don't use the discord, but I know you'll never believe that.
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>>170039115
It's a card that does nothing and requires a condition. It'd be important against burn-heavy metas but shit for everything else.

Shadowcraft doesn't have the draw to sustain cards like that unless it's an absolute necessity.
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Create a neutral soft counter to D-shift.

By "Soft Counter" I mean something that would impede it, but not outright gut it.

Examples

>Odin Hard Counters to Seraph - Not Valid

>Yurius soft counters flood - Valid
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>>170039210
Really not that bad, Odin/Morde are both at least close to pick-on-sight tier, and shadow is a very popular craft in T2 which only increases the value of drafting the 'Din
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>Play havencraft to get the Jeanne emblem
>Complete a daily so that I get a pack at the same time
>Pack gives this
It's like the game's telling me something

What type of haven deck does Jeanne usually see play in?
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>>170039298
Everyone knows it'd be an amulet which damages the enemy whenever they cast a spell, we've had this discussion 15 times already.
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>pulled 2x Tsubaki
is this slut useful for anything
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>>170039298
Follower
2 PP
2/1
Can't be targeted by spells. Spells cost 1 more PP to cast.
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Should i concede all 5 matches now?
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>>170039334
>What type of haven deck does Jeanne usually see play in?
She doesn't.
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>>170039334
>What type of haven deck does Jeanne usually see play in?
None.
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>>170039334
none
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>>170039379
kill yourself you literal retard.

look at the card for LITERALLY 2 seconds and read it and let us know if you decided if it's good or not.
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>>170039379
She's pretty good in this meta
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>>170039398
You can just quit right away and save time.
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>>170039398
AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>170038705

This kind of thinking is what lead to much bitching about daria. Swordfags just cry when they can't just mindlessly unga that deck.
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>>170039334
It's awful, she's a great-looking card with great alternate art and some great emblems and she's iconic to this game but they made her card fucking worthless.
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>>170039467
I've been playing this game for a day.
Do you expect me to be good at juding the value of a card for a class I've never played after like, 4 hours?

Faggot
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>>170039263
>heals 4hp for 1pp and a throw away follower
>does nothing

it would be auto nclude in every deck including aggro and would effectively make luna have 32 hp

i will not discuss your broken imaginary cards anymore, thankfully you are not a dev and never will be one
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>>170039406
>>170039448
>>170039463
>>170039546
DAMMIT

At least I still have my animated moon bun
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>>170039298
Give us more low cost stat boost spells and target immune to haven.
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>>170039398

Dire bond is ok. Most T2 decks won't be consistent enough to burn you down before it heals you back up.

Soul dealer,well,just hope the other guy can't answer it right away when you play him.
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>>170039638
Yeah Moon is good, you can use her in Storm and even Sun Satan.
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>>170039398
Furiae isn't too bad in T2 (card draw, pressure and a large body) and beast dominator won't slow you down too much either. Give it a chance, Anon.
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>>170039398
just go left and hope you get bloody mary at the end
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>>170039589
any nigger with half a brain can tell whether the card is good or not.
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>>170039512
>This kind of thinking is what lead to much bitching about daria.
There is so much bitching about it because its a completly broken deck that has a horribly cancerous effect on the meta Dariavermin. Fuck off with your retarded excuses.
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>>170039589
It's pretty good.
Here's some evaluation so you can better your judgment for other occasions:
She can remove big followers (Bahamut, Albert, Forte, etc,) while leaving a resonable body behind. But what really makes the card shine is the fact she has Ambush, which allows you to setup damage for the next turn or to use Cyclone Blade.
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>>170039263
>Kill mr skeltal
>4 hp for 2pp
Oh wow, nothing wrong here!

>>170039398
Left, pick up some drain and you'll win.
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>>170039298
DShift doesn't need a counter. DShift is there to beat control decks, the same way aggro decks are made to beat combo decks like DShift.

If you print a counter to DShift that control decks can abuse, then we'll have a control meta because there is nothing that can beat them besides bricking.

I know a lot of you are butthurt about DShift, and I hate Rune as much as you do, but that's why the game is in a good state right now. Deal with it.
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>>170039759

The same could be said about sword's otoshitme last season. You mad that your deck is now trash kiddo ?
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>>170039263
>Spirit cycle and queen
>Doesn't have the draw
What a spicy meme
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>>170039512
>Swordfags just cry when they can't just mindlessly unga that deck.
WTF are you on about? AggroSword HAS to unga Daria or it will just lose. Trading against Daria as AggroSword is basically auto-conceding. You trade for longer games, longer games against Darias far superior boardflood and its removal+burn is suicide for AggroSword or any Aggro deck.
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>>170039298
>create a counter to a 44% winrate deck
why are control cucks so fucking autistic?
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>>170039785
Aggro dies to combo elf though
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>>170039512
The joke is that Dariatumor does the same shit because of the exact same reasons, so Swordfags can pretent to be the victims here, being dethroned from the position of the most cancerous class in DE.
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>>170039864
>The same could be said about sword's otoshitme last season. You mad that your deck is now trash kiddo ?
>Otohime
>in Aggro
I don't even.
Dariatards. Not even once.
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>>170039983

>he didn't experience the joy of having to face otoshitme in every single sword match last season

Still sub-B rank,I see.
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>>170039951
only if they run fairy beast
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I love forte mama but I can make due with her little sister.
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>>170039661
>that board

why do people use it?
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>>170039951
Forest is very annoying to play against as Aggro, being 2nd is suffering. But I think aggro is still favored against combo elf.
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>>170040126
If you can't even tell MidRange from Aggro, you probably shouldn't talk about ranking m8
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>>170040147
>opponent has Banner and Commander in the same deck

You could probably make "due" with a deck composed entirely of shitstains in D rank.
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>>170039874

>keep hitting face
>t4 levi piercing rune rekt your board
>t5 he hit your face back with all his intact followers for the game because you didnt trade
>WAHHHH DARIASHITTER IS OP WTF WHY CANT I JUST HIT FACE AND WIN
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>tfw I haven't played in a week because I have a bunch of missions I can't do
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>>170037617
>Nep can't pull into a Morde, Khalwy, Night Attendent and Widow
Any non retard Nep deck can do that consistently
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Hey guys I just started playing and made this deck, I don't want to netdeck so I won't just copy a deck I find online but any suggestions on what I could replace to make it better?
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>>170040452
What missions can't you do?
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>>170040452
>being retarded
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>>170040360
Oh yeah because not having a board on turn 5 for Daria to vomit her minions down is so much better than having done actual damage in the meantime to clinch out in Turn6 you retard.
Christ, Dariavermin are really this dumb.
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>>170040238

Just like how you try to differentiate "aggro" daria from "tempo" daria and "midrange" daria ?

Last season otoshitme is for all purpose the daria for swordcancers. Even non-budget banner run her because why the fuck not.
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>>170040360
>trading with daria
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>>170040603
You're. Fucking. Retarded.
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>>170040360
T4 Levi isn't that devastating since the PR nerf. Aggro should pressure Daria and hit face while making smart trades to avoid getting crushed. Using cards like Lyrial or Angel of the Word can help you achieve that.

If you trade too much, you play the value game, and if you play the value game, you're gonna die because you won't outvalue Daria, unless he has a low hand size and no Daria in hand.
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>>170040552
Every mission that gives me play with X craft that is not rune,blood or shadow.
I actually rerolled every single day and I keep getting win 4 games with Dragon or Haven, the two classes I literally have no cards for
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>>170039926

>80% win rate vs control

>20% win rate against aggro

>balanced

excellent design choice
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>>170040583
>Just like how you try to differentiate "aggro" daria from "tempo" daria and "midrange" daria ?
...
There is only one kind of Daria, Tempo. which is a from of Midrange.
Seriously HS shitter, fuck off. I know Cyagames baited you dumb fucks with the promise of easy ranking with Daria face roll but christ you could at least try having a basic understanding of the game.
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>>170040568

Sounds like all you know is shitty kind of trading. Maybe stop your crying and git gud some more ?
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>>170039785

that is why the guy is asking for a soft counter you fucking dip.
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>>170040682
Just google budget decks, it's what i use when i have a mission as dragon, forest and sword
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>>170040648
He's an ungaposter, he doesn't know any better.
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>>170040540 use wardrobe instead of teena

curse and ding dong are doing nothing here

try to get revation and diabolic drain
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>>170040360
>trading with Daria
>trying to OUTVALUE FUCKING DARIA
Nigga, you're a complete retard, pleae go kill yourself.
You only trade with Daria exactly as little as possible if she has a bunch of early minions, which means you trade maybe once at most. Anything more is damage you wasted because by Turn 5/6 she will anhiliate your minions and vomit a full board down and your trading didn't do shit.
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>>170040707

>basic understanding of the game
>bitch about daria when you're obviously swordcancer
>>
why the fuck are people playing latter deck in unranked games? are these daria, aggro sword and ramp faggots too much of a bitch to take their netdecks to ranked? jesus christ, is this how this game is all the time?
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>>170040648
>>170040742
>>170040808
And here I thought Elenatards were the dumbest the shills of a broken archetype could get, but this is topping even them.
>Just trade with it brah!
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>people are starting to believe that daria can outvalu sword or aria. are you guys crazy?
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>>170040540
Fair warning: a deck that depends on being in Vengeance leaves you prone to being burst down by optimized aggro decks.

But I'll give you suggestions in vein with what you have since it's ok to not have 100% optimal decks in lower ranks. Consider Righteous Devil, more Dire Bonds, Archblade Warfiend over Furiae since he can immediately impact the board with rush. If you want to go more aggressive, try Dark General. If you find you are dying too fast, try Goblinmount Demon.
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>>170040830
Why should someone kill themselves because they misunderstand the concept of a card game? Calm the fuck down kiddo, explain it to him and help him improve instead of wishing death upon everyone who isn't as good as you.
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>>170040947
>Turn 5 2x 3/4 1x 2/2 and 1x5/5 outvalues 1x5/7. Yes.
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>People honestly want a Rock-Paper-Scissors meta.

so much fun knowing a game is lost from the start.
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>>170040452
I just finished my Forest gbf questions. I may be Master but my Forest deck is a frankenstein with only 1 Ancient Elf, 2 Lisa, 1 Lion and 1 Tia. If I was able to accomplish that against Masters, you can also do too.
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>>170041008
>explaining things to shitposters
Anon pls
No one here believes he's serious and if he is, then he's so delusional he needs mental health attention not card game advice.
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>>170040540
3x goblinmoun
call of coc instead of dance of death
unica instead of cursebrand
satan and/or bahamut(s) if you own them
panty raider instead of teenateena
mandatory get 3x revelation and 3x denonic drain
consider a couple of alucards or ice blade warfiends

and finally - aggro blood is much cheaper and is considered to be better
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>>170041059
If every deck has a 50% winrate against everything, then it's perfectly balanced, right?
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>Can you race daria's damage?

Yes ----> Go face unless absolutely necessary.

No ------>Trade, heal and hope she bricks.

It's not rocket surgery bros.
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>>170041059
(you) don't want tier 0 bb. >>170041194
is coinflip rng
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>>170041059
What do you want then? Your deck has strengths and weaknesses, accept it.

Do you want a meta where everyone can play everything, but the game is decided by bullshit RNG printed on the cards themselves? You can play hearthstone if you enjoy that.

You want your """"SKILL"""" to make the difference between a win and a loss? Well, card games aren't for you.
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>>170039785
The main issue with DShift isn't even that. It's just so fucking unfun to play against, regardless of what deck you're running. All you can do is try to rush them down and pray they don't have the answers, because you sure as hell aren't winning the long game.
Cygames really needs to have some sort of interactivity during opponents turns. Instants would be ideal but that's never going to happen.
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>>170041259
>caring about daria post PR nerf
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>>170037758
>>170038309
I was trying to be flavorful with the evo effect, but its clear we need to go power creepier:

Mordecai the Banished (Shadowcraft, Legendary)

8pp 5/5 evo: 7/7

non-evolved:
Rush.
When attacking an enemy follower, banish the enemy follower before it can deal any damage in return.

evolved:
When attacking an enemy follower, banish the enemy follower before it can deal any damage in return.

Evolve: Banish an enemy Follower or Amulet.
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>>170041296

>You want your """"SKILL"""" to make the difference between a win and a loss? Well, card games aren't for you.

>implying you've never lost a game due to a misplay or a different choice.

that is the skill in card games.
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>>170041321
>It's just so fucking unfun to play against
Is there any deck in the game that is fun to play against? I see the same complaints about every fucking deck in the game.
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Lads, I just beat a Daria with Storm Haven in this meta.
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>>170041059
You're in one.
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>>170041504
Storm Haven with Lion and Themis is pretty good against Daria
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>>170041447
>skill while quimichal shit command your brain
i bet u think that we are free and amaterasu does not exist
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>>170041504
Storm Haven always had a good wr against daria
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>mfw they got 3 wards but you got burn damage locked and loaded
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>>170041574
>Storm Haven with Lion and Themis
I don't even play Themis, but Lion Dragon and Temple Defender brutalise Daria already pretty hard.
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New thread
>>170041759
>>170041759
>>170041759
>>170041759
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>>170041674
and then
>checking match results
Every fucking time.
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>>170041321
Now tell me, how does an aggro deck feel when he's matched against a control deck? His board is answered, the opponent heals/wards up like crazy and you can't do shit to close the game. It's fucking unfun too, right?

Controlfags want their decks to be invincible. They can't stand that their 50k vial deck can lose to a piece of shit solitaire deck. That's infuriating and I understand it, but that's how it is.
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>>170041894
>Now tell me, how does an aggro deck feel when he's matched against a control deck? His board is answered, the opponent heals/wards up like crazy and you can't do shit to close the game. It's fucking unfun too, right?
Honestly I don't mind that when I play aggro.
I think healing is excessive in Control these days, but realistically they wouldn't work without.
I think the issue with D-Shift, if there is one, would be more how hard it is for Aggressive decks that aren't face or very early aggro decks to beat it. Its a Control deck that plays a Combo, and thats a problem. Combo, like D-shift, should beat Control reliably, but should also be reliably beaten by Aggro and thats not really the case right now.
Mind, I think if D-Shift would be the worst problem in the meta we'd be at a pretty good spot so eh.
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>>170042198
Well, an Aggro deck can easily steal a win to a Control deck. The same way a DShift can steal a win to an Aggro deck.

I'm an aggro player and I lose to DShift sometimes, but those losses are rare, most of the time, it's a stomp. As it should be. Control vs Aggro isn't as one-sided.
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>>170039592
>any such thing as a "throw away follower"
Stop being bad.

>>170039775
>kill mr skeltal
>4 hp for 2pp

vs

>kill mr skeltal
>kill an enemy and summon a 3/3
>4pp

vs

unconditional 3 hp to all allies for 2pp

Gee I wonder which is more useful?

>>170039873
Which T1 deck runs Cycle and Queen again?
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>>170040179
Born to meme. If they fuck up or underestimate it you can run away with adding/healing more health than they can do damage Culminating in a white knight healing 8+ back
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>>170040540
Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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