/domg/ - Dominions general

>>168835894
First for aboleth traps.

>168811647

Ur is actually good at snowballing expansion, because it can always turn gold into more stuff to expand with. While they can get to a decent size with a pure scale build as a result, they get even MORE benefit than usual out of awake expansion.

>>168835894
I blame the lack of turns.

>>168838651
I blame a lack of talking points but that's never stopped the page 10 jackals before.

>>168839090
I didn't notice it was at page 10.

>>168835894
Wouldn't it be easier just to kill yourself rather than wait to be eaten by evil monsters from beyond hell?

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How exactly does one "break in" to a non-native magic path? I have no idea how to do this properly, and my single player experience typically goes poorly.

>find province with an indy mage
>drop a lab/temple on it
>start site searching
>find fuckall because they're shitty 1 power mages
>fail to remote sitesearch because no fucking gems
>fail to make a booster because no fucking gems
>fail to summon a better mage because no booster and no fucking gems

It is even worse when I do this with a pretender because then my sitesearching is limited to one guy going from province to province over dozens of turns and still getting nothing done because no fucking gems.

Please explain to me the extent of my retardation.

>>168839090
Alright let's talk. If instead of playing an actuall game, you instead were going to play a survival style game with your pretender where:
>Map is just your cap circle so you can see what enemies are coming next turn
> you're besieged turn 1, can't break seige
>each turn you are attacked by progressively harder armies
>You have full research
>You receive a stipend of gems based on the enemy mages
>You are allowed to cast rituals between each round

What's your pretender's build?

>>168839801

A level one mage will actually get about 70% of sites in their path because of distribution.

>>168839973
Whats that big sphinx statue? Probably that with like N9, E9, D9, B9 or something similar.

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>>168839973

>>168839801
Sounds like you're having shit luck. Also don't expect to break into anything with just level 1 indies in any small amount of time, unless it's N1. Those are pretty safe Site searching can be a bitch though especially in LA.

>>168840710
W1 too.

>>168840584
>N2
I thought statues couldn't cast regen? Though the 35 prot plus temper flesh/soul vortex would be bannas

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>>168840000
Then I don't understand why this is happening to me.

I'd try to get big S/D on an irminsul so I could do regen + soul drain, unless the attackers had some sort of big S magic duelist

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So, yeah. Soul Drain, Soul Vortex, Personal Regen, Astral Shield, Body Ethereal. After that, the AI will probably skelespam

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>>168839973
>Personal Regen
>Soul Vortex
>Mistform
>Temper flesh
>Summon Earth Power

And have the F in there for it to hopefully cast Phoenix pyre or fire shield. Otherwise would throw more point into A for AN evo fun.

And depending on the army use the air random to cast RoS and Wailing Winds

>>168842038
Depending on the size of the enemy army, Soul Drain is the best spell in the game. If they're set up with access to high S magic duel, then naturally you can't use it, but if not that's the most important spell to grab.

E access is pretty great, though, and I should probably have found a way to put that in.

Not this time fuckers.

Could anyone direct me to a list of land nations that can build underwater forts?(across all ages)

>>168846558
Jomon and LA Atlantis are the only ones I know about.

>>168848698
Thanks.

I know there are more then this, can anyone else help?

>>168849262
check: EA/MA Agartha, MA Shinuyama

>>168849364
also, LA Mictlan

>>168849364
>>168849502
and, obviously, MA/LA Xibalba

Ichty-yids...

So I see a lot of people talk about endgame planning for a wish caster, what do you wish for that's so damn useful? S9 seems really tedious to get to.

>>168842210
I figured soul drain would be useful for this but I wanted to avoid the astral vulnerability all together. This will get the job albeit a good deal slower

>>168859515
It is, but the rings are useful for other magic paths too so it's not the end of the world in terms of investments. Wishing for armageddon can really shut down opponents and wishing for dominion is handy but not really economically viable unless you've got absolutely stupid numbers of pearls coming in, otherwise I would prefer juggernauts. Seraphs are a good chassis but are they 100 pearls good?
Wish really seems to me like an added extra and not something to build a strategy around

>>168859515
End game S strategy is Arcane Nexus, which then allows for wishing for gems to provide other gems which earn a partial rebate. Wish itself is not a standalone end game goal, just something that you use when you have the game winning global up.

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>>168839973
I assume you have to take an awakened pretender.
Will having Death3, unluck3 actually a bad idea since you only have one province, it doesn't mean it can't get hit by disease and unluck events. That also accounts of dominion too. If you only have 2 dominion and get hit by a undominion event then you're dead.

>usual buff
>acid storm
>all those corpses to feed my 5k hp puppy

>>168864070
There's honestly a lot of shit that'll kill this pupper

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You're expanding and this guy slaps your prophet on the ass, what do you do /domg/?

>>168866798
Charm him, enslave his apprentices, and enjoy the riches of his tower.

Stop doing this shit.

What does MA Man cast in combat?
Are sleep and poison clouds worth bringing lots of mages into combat?Are the new summod spells (Fascination and that AoE Curse of the Frog Prince) worth it?

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Weebposting will save this thread.

I shouldn't have to post 3 times in a row trying to keep the thread alive.
Fucking Americans and Aussies. It's your shift now, do your job.

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It's aussie time, desu. 3 AM in america

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Australian hours. Let's rock.

>>168877912
Sorry mate I was chucking a prawn on the barbie.

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>>168878471
Tonight I tried venison. It's okay. Works better as jerky.

>>168841164

They can CAST it. Limited Regen doesn't actually do anything for them though, because they're lifeless.

>>168839801
-early sitesearching
-hope and prayers
-having the magic booster guide open all the time and remember all the summon a mage spells
-trading gems and items
-cast remote sitesearching spells with level 1 mages equipped with a traded booster

in the very end it's not easy to break into most paths and it requires some suffering and often empowering or luck, which imply a bi genough empire.

>>168871737
Please respond.

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play turns

>>168882775
Being admin is great, isn't it?

Is the mercybrand good?

>>168866798
I tab out, close dominions, and never join a Oeridia game again.

Any LA games starting soon?

>>168885273
What do those attacks do anyway?

>>168887969
I'm pretty sure that if you made one, a lot of people would join.

>>168887969
>>168889615
I have a finished LA pretender just waiting for a game to come around.

>>168889615
You know, I never tried LA Abysia. Might have a go with that.

>>168888286
Presumably nothing. A trampler, but unable to pick on somebody its own size, fits the fluff

>>168891616
They have some sort of secondary effect it seems.

>Misfortune 1, Magic 2
How risky is it to cast transformation?

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>>168871737
>>168881578
I'm literally dying here in my game.

NewYearsNovices has become me and Caelum fighting against waves of AI

>>168894570
Welcome to Domg

Cirno, or whoever is playing Sauro, if you stale this turn I'm ending this game and assigning the win to myself, you lazy fuck.

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>tfw you realise how shit your pretender build is and just want to go AI out of shame

>>168894329
The problem with MA Man is only your A2 Mothers are really useful in combat. N2A1 and N3 have their uses, but main battlemage isn't really one of them. Getting a bunch of A2 Mothers together for lightning spam / Stormpower > Thunderstrike with a Crone is decent, but only a quarter of your Mothers can contribute.

One thing to look at is Swarm. For 1 gem it kicks out a decent amount of AN damage, which is quite good against small amounts of highly armored enemies. I haven't looked at the new Summod spells in detail so can't really give an opinion there, but if they were added to buff the nation they are likely worth a look.

Logrian Wise Men are interesting - E/A gives you Rain of Stones, E2 gets you Strength of Giants / Legions of Steel / Blade Wind, whilst E1F1 gets magma bolts or Magma Eruption with Earth Boots.

Fuck. 90% sure I didn't script my main army, but have to wait 4 hours to check my turn

>>168840000
It's closer to 40-50%, mr quads.

Whats the best non-blood path overall?

>>168897829
Earth/Air/Astral

>>168839626

they say that even dead will die.

>>168897565
You mean sleep and poison cloud aren't useful at all? Even if you combine those with mass vine ogres from having Oak up and them using ivy crowns?

>>168897829
Earth, astral, water. There is also Fire and air.

So does a vampire at level 3 magic become vampire lord in CoE4?

>>168898241
Not that guy but I have heard people say sleep cloud is pretty good but I haven't played anyone who could cast it in a while.
>>168898282
>Fire being the best overall
>in any situation
Water is also a bit lackluster apart from a few spells.

>>168898398
Guess, I'll try it out before I go A- I mean get completely reckt.
I really fucked up pretender design wise, army composition wise, research priority wise and combat magic wise in this game, which is a shame because I was doing very good in expansion and my first war.

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>Black Servant
5 Death Gems
>Axe of Hate
10 Nature Gems
>Flying Boots
10 Air Gems
>Ring of the Warrior
5 Blood Slaves

Is this thug worth the cost?

>>168898352
What are some fun settings to play CoE on?
Every game I play is a grindy pain.

>>168898609
Do you not have anything more durable than a black servant? He will get one-shotted by anything and everything with magic weapons, which includes some nations' PD at the 1-5 point level...

Abysia please stop the stall.

>>168898609
any D1 mage will auto-kill him out of script with dust to dust.

>>168898609
That's not a thug, that's a counter thug at best. And why would you use a black servant for that?

Not on my watch.

Whats the math on determining of a attack hits a shield vs not hitting it?

>>168904613
determining if a attack*

>>168904613
The manual is clear on it.

If you win the roll against defense without parry but lose it against defense+parry you get parried by the shield.

>10 def
>4 parry
>roll a 16 -> it hits
>roll a 9 -> totally dodged
>roll a 12 -> parried by the shield

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How's that wish coming along?

>>168897565
This totally changes in summod, where N/A gives an extremely potent national combat spell.

There's also extremely good AOE 5 troop buffs for W/N, E/N, A/N, and Holy/N - giving a conjoined legions of steel, strength of giants, wave warriors, weapons of sharpness, moss body, elemental fortitude, luck, and twist fate - across 4 spells.

I'd honestly consider summod Man to be quite good, not top tier but certainly no longer weak. The amount of buffing they received is only really matched by the likes of Therados and Ur in summod.

Abysia, if you don't stop stalling every single turn, I'll send Gath gold to help him kill you faster.

>>168898737
i like the off setting its pretty good

>>168904936
ok, thanks!

>>168898609

For what purpose? That looks like a counterSC type. For dealing with PD, Black Servants can get by with just a shroud (if you have N9) and a shield. They've got Life Drain, so a Brand is a step down in survivability, if not killing power.

Whats the recruitable with the highest single level of magic? My money is on Atlantis?
.

>>168912326

Varies by path, but generally the best you can hope for as an Always is 4, although you can sometimes get as high as 6 if you count super lucky randoms.

Just filter the mod inspector by recruitable and sort by Magic. That'll show you the highest path dudes for each path, although it doesn't factor randoms.

Does berserk wear off?

>>168915245
only death can release one from his rage

>>168915245
It didn't used to, but I've seen a few players saying it does seem to stop after a while now.

Someone speculated units lose berserk and rout around 10 turns after the autorout kicks in. Don't know if that is the case or why it was changed.

>>168916198
Ten turns past autorout seems like a rare enough situation that the exception might have just gone unnoticed previously.

>>168916198
>>168916367
Did you guys ever play this game? When a unit with berserker gets to 100 fatigue, it loses 'gone berserker' until it gets less than 100 fatigue and it gets damaged.

>>168916198

I believe it goes away if you hit fatigue 100.

>>168905703
Do you have an experience with army composition and how to use those spells effectively?

>>168882775
Could be worse. Could be natgen.

If you give a bunch of orders/messages/deliveries and set yourself AI on the same turn, will those get executed?

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>notice I fucked up pretender design/research/sisearching/general playstyle/ANYTHING
>instantly set myself AI
>even when I'm the strongest nation in that game
How do I stop being autistic?

>>168922207
stop playing dominions 4

>>168922335
Manifests in other games as well.

>>168922401
the journey of a thousand steps begins with one, baby

>>168922502
But Dominions is the most fun game ever.

Did I underestimat the impact of heat scales on income?

Assuming you prefer neutral heat scales, should you try your best to actually stay neutral? I usually treated temp scales as free design points and shifted to either cold 3 or heat 3, depending on what was benefitting the nation more.

I think I fucked up many games because of that.

>>168921849
>Messages/Deliveries?
Yes.
>Orders?
No.

>>168923296
Thanks for clarifying.

>>168922967

No, you're pretty much correct. Going three distant to your default scale isn't quite free points, but it's certainly much less malus than the bonus you get from Growth 3. There are exceptions, of course. If your nation has Cold Blooded stuff, then Go Heat 3, no questions asked. If you have heat or chill auras (or hot/cold power/protection) then it can be worth going to those.

>>168923991
But for a regular human nations, which wouldn't strongly benefit from going either way?

>>168922967
it's almost always correct to go H3 or C3.
temperature is worse than other order and growth, but if you already have those and your entire strategy revolves around getting +10% gold then you can go neutral temperature.
i kind of wanted to try it with Pangea because you can already get the bless and turmoil luck scales you want, but you are really dependant on especially in the first years.

>>168924210

Then go Heat or Cold 3 according to your map and mage paths.

>>168924638
Yeah, mostly asking for those gold hungry nations who would benefit more from that bit more gold than having 120 design points.

Any games recruiting?

>>168922207
Just don't do that

Not being autistic is just self-awareness with a side order of willpower. Self-awareness to realise when you are being an aspie retard, willpower to stop doing the thing that makes you an aspie retard.

If you don't have and can't develop either of those things, then you have two choices. Accept an inherently selfish and cancerous existence and continue to inflict yourself upon society because it makes you happy to do so, or kill yourself and make the rest of the world a better place.

>>168924936
Then, yeah. It kinda speaks for itself.

Basically, having closer to ideal temp DOES give you more income, but it gives LESS than Order/Growth.

>>168925354
>because it makes you happy to do so
Oh I fucking wish.

>>168925841
Sounds like you've made your choice

Goodbye, Anon, you shan't be missed

Interest poll -
A game where all research is set to 0, gold is set to 50%, and site settings are set to the highest value

>>168927373
By all research set to 0, I mean everyone starts out with full spell lists.

>>168927373
>>168927516
https://strawpoll.com/dyzx162

memegame poll

>>168927965
>>168927516
>>168927373
i've seen enough memegames to tell that an idea so horribly unbalanced is not even going to be fun, just a big bad meme.

>forge woofie stone artifact turn 2-3
>win

fuck that.

>>168928370
Would you join one of the other two memegames?

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>start as Pale Lord in CoE
>ancient temple near start
>Deep King ambushed by horror olm
>get totally creamed on with paralyze
>horror kills itself with repeated meteor showers

>>168927965
Worth noting that everything sacred means EVERYTHING is sacred. This includes things like longdead from Horde of Skeletons, Maenads, Swarm Bugs, and Storm Demons

>>168930028
>F9D9 swarm bugs
Oh my god...

>>168931216
>not adding S9 to counteract the trample damage and the B9 faggots, as well as any arrow/cloud

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>>168932075

>>168925186
Make one, please

We've got 7 votes for all-sacreds, so I'll be putting one of those up in a few hours.

Test your mettle against doubleblessed steel waifus, struggle to expand with Xibalba and Ur as you realize that your foreign rec stuff now requires temples, and shiver with terror at the sight of quadblessed maenads backed by quadblessed swarm bugs.

>>168934590
By a few hours I meant "right now."

Here's the game - http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=EverythingIsBalanced

>>168935103
Time for innovative Abysian strats.

>>168934590
wait a minute doesn't that mean every unit requires holy points to buy? This just makes every xboxhueg unit nations like nief overpowered. In reality quad blessed troops aren't that great...

>>168935103
I sent a placeholder for xibalba while I think what should be the bless.

Please wait for me to update it before starting. Going to sleep right now.

>>168936430
Oh fuck you could be on to something there.

>>168936430
You can try that strat, see how it compares to uberbless Pangaea or Ur. We shall see what the truly balanced nations are.

>>168936447
Xib's actually massively nerfed in all-sacreds.

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And people say the Earth Snake can't fight enemy armies.

How does one fight T-strike spam? Is there a spell to give mass protection against lightning? I'm a bit shit at astral ~lvl 2 for most mages

>>168937280
That tiger tho.

>>168937387
What nation is spamming t-strike?

There are lightning resist spells, and they help a lot against the large AoE component, but the direct hits will still nuke regular sized dudes right dead.

The primary answer is using evo baits (squares of high HP guys put in position specifically to get shot at)

>>168937401
That tiger was of vital importance to the mission.

>>168937510
The usual foe, the fucking birds. It's turn 30 and nobody bothered to cull them until now. I'm good at air and water mages

>>168933594
>asking the guy who'll get rekt first and admin-abandon the game

>>168937280
>Tiger was actually the one that killed everything in a glorious bloodbath
>As always sneaky snake claims all glory

This is why you can't trust snakes.

>>168937279
Yeah. All it can produce are shit 8gold sacred hit hit hard and die hard but only 10 per turn. Good luck with that. And if you think you can freespawn beast bats with onaquies try getting more than 5 provinces by end of turn 1.

>>168939597
More importantly, the bat thing is only really scary in vanilla because they're sacred. In this game, everyone is sacred

>>168940696
I feel Pan will also have issues actually blessing all their maeneds with more than their single Holy 3 dude.

Having easy access to Holy 3s seems like it'd be really important.

>>168941802
Lizards have sacred skelespam now too

>>168941863
assuming you can bless them. Wait does bless work on undead? You need that undead bless thing right?

>>168942114
Of course bless works on undead. TC has sacred undead too.

geez, i made a mistake
remove ulm from EverythingIsBalanced please

>>168943158
You got it buddy

>>168905451
Sithis killed my awesome thug I've been working on most of the game with a 2% Soul Slay so by virtue of pure selfishness getting an Arena wish up has dropped a few notches in my priorities. It's still a bit far off as I'd need to at the very least get enough pearls to forge The Forbidden Light and decide on an S3 caster I can afford to sacrifice.

Does the flaming weapons bless affect arrows?

>>168944718
Yes.

>>168944718
It affects poop too

>>168945305
kewl

I feel in a game where everything is sacred, the winning midgame strat is gonna be Air Ele (or Fire Ele) spam -> Divine Blessing. With like an N9W9.

>>168945991
mixtlan vs abysia

>>168946739
I had a plan for Abysia but if everything really does need holy points for recruitment my plan is probably fucked.

Staling data says that everyone's getting their turns in but a couple of nations seem to have made pathetic attempts at expansion. Is llamaserver confused or have some players only managed to get four provinces by turn 10?

>>168951009
>Is llamaserver confused or have some players only managed to get four provinces by turn 10?
I don't see the graphs on llama

>>168951009
>>168952502
Llama does graphs?

>>168952837
Llamaserver shows staling data, which is supposedly 0 stales for everyone at the moment. But I have scouts all over the place and Abysia, Ragha and Xibalba all appear to be tiny at the moment. Also somebody else ITT told Abysia to stop staling.

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Hello. I recently lost a major battle to elves, and as a consequence they now have my lands. I blame poor scripting, booze, and an allergic reaction to frothing vanhere. But! I have a number of gems remaining, and i'd like to trade them for nature gems. 2:1 or even 3:1 odds are being offered here. The most common types I have are Earth and Astral, but I have a little of everything. First come, first served. (pic was 4chan header pic when writing this, and it seemed appropriate)

>>168922207

>Hey guys i'm the strongest nation in <blah> game but I made my pretender wrong and it's bothering me and i'd like to sub out
>wait

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>>168953948
>Nick's neighbors are still letting him snowball unopposed
LUUUUKAAAAAAS

>>168953948
I have 50 N, how about 150 pearls?

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>>168954487

That's more pearls than I have. I can do you a deal on a combo of around 90 gems, mostly E and S, though.

>>168954806
OK I'll sell 35 to you, but I want all the pearls, in addition to W and E. How does that sound?

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>>168955048

Relatively acceptable given my straitened circumstances and lack of bargaining power.

>>168954806
>>168955770
The fuck is up with your pictures

>>168956157
He's one of those retards who think that you always have to post with a picture, obviously.

>>168955048
>35 nature gems worth of wolves

How obnoxious. EAGLES!!

Four more innovators needed for the first ever balanced game.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=EverythingIsBalanced

>>168957442
Would join as Therados maybe if it were summod.

Even with all the freespawn being sacred automatically, Therados vanilla is still total shit.

>>168957442
Do you realize that allsacreds mod is very old and some nations won't get the benefits?

>>168957539
The mod's very simple. He wrote a script that got all the unit IDs from 1-6000 and added #holy to them. It covers all of the units that have been added to the game since and then some. Ys's units don't even go up to 3000.

>>168957860
Huh, that's great.

>>168957442
>Mictlan is picked
but hwhy.

>>168957517
Don't blessed therodos become berserked? That sounds both terrifying and hilarious.

>>168958753
It's a unit specific property, not a national one. If it was national, blessed wolves berserking would be hilarious.

>>168959059
Aww what a missed opportunity.

>>168958423
Probably blessed slaves and H3 commanders?

>>168959643
Yep. Plus a shitton of F9 slingers.

>>168955770
Nice use of straitened

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What innovative tactics have you created recently /domg/?

>>168959717
By shit ton, you mean 10 per turn (at max)

>>168962462

Blessed and mistformed vanjarls with firebrands

>>168937387
>>168938537
Thunder Fend and Ground Army give your entire army lightning resist.

You probably don't have either at turn 30, so your best option will be Lightning Resistance or Thunder Ward, both of which buff 15 squares.

>>168957442
ONLY 2 MORE MEMES

GOGOGO

Hey guys

If ALL units are sacred, does that mean that PRETENDER GODS are sacred?

Really makes ya think

>>168962462
All of them

>>168957860
>>this mod makes all ME content sacred too

DO IT

DO IT NOW

>>168962462

Millions of crazy flagellants whipped into frenzy by pillaging your provinces to death

totally stole the idea from Sy

>>168969354
Yes, I'm watching this right now. Ermor and Marignon appear to be having an epic cancer off.

Not even Ermor wants those scales.

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>>168967871
Nope, pretender can't be sacred/blessed by any means, even mod can't change that.

>>168969826
>don't talk to me or my son ever again

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meme-based nation when?

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>>168971374
It's called Xibalba.

Hey guys, I'm looking for subs for my three games I'm in as I'll be gone for a week.
I am in pretty good shape in all of them, maybe even in a winning position.
If you are interested just search for me on the steamgroup. I'm "Eltson"

>>168969354
I didn't invent it either, tho

>>168971823
Which games/nations

>>168971823
I should probably say for which games:
JobbingtoXibalba
Masterblaster11
AutismWars

>>168972073
>>168972113
In order:
Mictlan ea
Machaka ea
Nazca ma

>>168939597
Do you want to know what else is sacred? The batdick you are going to get in your ass,

Gonna start recruiting on an LA game this evening.
I'd rather have somebody else do it though, as I'm a lazy admin.

>>168977253
Ask Lukas

>>168977568
UNLIMITED EXTENSION WORKS

What's the army composition of summod Bogarus?
Just recruiting your heavy cav and you cav archers will make you die the upkeep death, right?

>>168979564
Nah. You use heavy cav for expansion, then indy crossbows and a mix of heavy cav and cheapest-possible garbage to front line

Fighting the A.I aint fun :(

>>168979564
In addition Black Hoods have their own usefulness but Bogarus is a mage nation first and foremost. Summons take care of blocking and catching much better than anything you can field with gold.

>>168979564
>>168979936
Oh, to add to this - the cavalry archers are pretty inefficient. You can get some use out of using them to help snowball your expansion, but they're not general purpose recruits

>>168979936
>>168980071
>>168980192
Thanks.
I really need to study/practice the transition from gold economy to gem economy better.

What do you suggest for research goals?
Firebirds and then Evocation for Thunderbolt/strike and Stellar Cascades?
What else?

What are the mechanics of Mind Blast dealing damage, say cast by EA Agartha's Great Olms?

What is the easiest way to remove elfs? Both underwater and above it.

>>168981985
Repeatedly chant "I dont believe in faeries".

>>168962462
I think flame spirit thugs has the potential to be memey.

>>168953464
Stalling, not staling. They started doing their turns much slower after Gath rushed them.

>>168984436
Gath's expansion seemed pretty brutal. I steered clear of Ragha on purpose to give them a chance but Gath seems to go straight for the jugular when he has the opportunity. To be fair I'm currently trying to exterminate bats but maybe bats are a different deal. I'm doing a service to everyone in the game.

Sorry for the stales in Roleplaying Is Fun and Autistic RP Game, it's Exams week. If I could get a lil more time for both, I would be eternally grateful.

>>168984693
>Gath's expansion seemed pretty brutal
Yeah, tribless giants with an awake expander are, unsurprisingly, pretty good at expansion.

>>168984693
>straight for the jugular when he has the opportunity
This describes jews indeed. And not only dominions jews.

>>168984847
Sssshhh!

Sorry about the stall this turn, I have been testing stuff.

Okay, turn sent. Now let's wait for Abysia for 12h hours, as usual.

>>168976806
wow now I know who to fuck first as if that wasn't already decided.

>>168987337
t. a faggot

>>168987710
To be fair, he'll feel at home in our great community.

Memes aside, I'm leaving the game.
The idea was getting temples in every forest and get infinite stealthy sacred bats per turn.

But can't figure out the best bless, since A9B9F9 markatas are going to be a thing and massive N9B9X9 wolf spam too.
There are too many variables and I don't want to deal with this.
PLEASE DELETE ME

So marignon's end game is to blot the sun with crossbow bolts?

>>168988792
Stop being a fucking pussy.

This is a game made for fun, just move your units around and click end turn or something.

Such a tryhard, Jesus.

>>168988792
why are you thinking bats when you could think scorpions and horde of skeletons.

>>168989202
Burning bolts.

>>168939597
>>168988792
Gee what happened bats? Pussing out?

>>168990498
I'm just kidding don't puss out like a pussy. I thought you promised to take my virginity?

>>168989607
I wanted to do the lifelong protection thing, but i'm way too lazy.

And scorpions are awful, i already tested that.

>>168990151
What if you enemies are fire resistant?

>>168992840
I'm too lazy and not autistic enough to figure out a good gimmick strategy.

>>168993081
they could be fire resistant...but ARE THEY FIRE AND BOLT RESISTANT?

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>>168994745

bat vajanyas deleted

>>168971823
Noone?
I'm pretty good off in every one of them

>>168995258
Too much power in the hands of only one man.... Crossbows need to be nerfed

>>168999161
Subbing is for submissive cucks. It's like raising your wifes son. No matter how genius the kid is. You are still a cuck and genetic dead end.

>>168999354
I'm just trying to not destroy the games I'm in :(

>>168988792
Jesus Christ you go Blood for sure and you go with W9 or F9/D9 to be more killy. You're going to get very little returns on N9 with those bat chasis.

>>168999354
The memes, Jack.

>>168999161
What games and what nations?

>>169002854
I think the analogy is fitting. The subber is literally a beta cuck providing for a nation that was inseminated by the bulls pretender design.

>>169003257
Or uhh maybe you're letting your fetish get in the way of memes. Not everything is about your waifu getting railed out by someone else.

Subbing while unsatisfying, is fun because it challenges you to work with a build you normally wouldn't and quite frankly the handicap from a mediocre build can be challenging in a good way.

Plus it's good to help keep games going and competitive. It's a lot better for everyone else in the game than the nation just going AI. Subbing is about being selfless first and foremost.

>>169003023
Look at the original post and its replies

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>>169003257

>>168984436

That is an unproblem. People who are fighting wars tend to take longer to do turns. News at 11.

>>168984847

How in the unholy fuck do you get three blesses on an awake expander?

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>>168957442
>everything is sacred
>you can only recruit 10 troops max per turn

>>169006258
NO SCALES

>>169006297

Thus: Bats are ineffective before Giant Nations.

>>169006297
>>169006454
Strategies around recruiting nations suck, better get reanimation, summons or freespawn.

>>169006561

Finally, C'tis's time to shine?

>>169006732
No, because Lanka does it better and has access to lifelong protection.

But i'm surprised no one will play agartha, considering how tribless magma children counter tribless skeletons and wolves

>>169007591

C'tis gets recruitable Holy3.

>>169006297
Aku summon mod when?

>>169007806
But do they get reanimation in their indie priests?

>>169008581

Nope, but they do get any number of combat skelespammers.

>>169006258
>People who are fighting wars tend to take longer to do turns
Yeah, it's pretty much impossible to do your turn in year one as a nation with 3 provinces in less than 28 hours, if you're at war with someone.

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>>169006258
>How in the unholy fuck do you get three blesses on an awake expander?
By gitting gud.

llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=EverythingIsBalanced

Still need 2 madmen for this.

>>169009929
This, desu.
Set Abysia AI already.

>>169010642
What bless shouls i get with agartha? I want to make their summons more tanky.
I was thinking in something like W9N9D9, but i might miss B9.

W9N9B9 doesnt sound as fun as the other one.

And how about E9?

I'm ahead in two games where most of the players are AI/staling, so my actual competition is 1 or 2 players, mindless AIs and maneuvering around staled armies. Should I even try to win these games?

People in RPIsFun and ChroniclesEA, should we just kill the games?

>>169011958
Destroy your competition so it's absolutely clear.

>>169011958
Engage in diplomancy with the AIs so they don't collude against you.

>>169012884

Get in steam chat.

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>>169011642
i'm not going to set people who don't actually stale ai

feel free to just kill them in game, though

ded game
no games
no turns

how do you guys get the all sacreds mod to work when its just a text file

>>169017942
Change .txt to .dm

>>169011928
>E9
your summons have 0 encumbrance and you can add protection with E spells. no.

>B9
your summons have 0 protection so blood vangeance is a way to have them get avenged, and the magma child flame strike scales pretty well with strength if i recall correctly. i think B9 is correct.

i would go for W9N9B9.D9 just adds more hp but it's not useful if you menage to buff your troops protection or want to use a supercombatant. the MR negate attack it adds is good but not actually needed and doesn't work on undead/elemental stuff if i recall correctly.

>>169011958
I was seriously considering just ending RPisFun multiple times. I might just do it.

After 10 thousand years I'm free

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>>169022524
And by that I mean natgen is declared finished because we all agreed on it.
Most people wanted out for a (long) while, but Lukas going AI finished it for me.

State of the map as of the last serious turn.

>>169022735
Is this what hell is like?

Are you ever going to play Dom4 again?

pro tip:

when you make a memegame, make it small, for no more than 7-8 players.

>>169022907
>Is this what hell is like?
Natgen is how world war 1 would have looked in Hell.

>Are you ever going to play Dom4 again?
I need a fresh game with hot meme settings.

>>169023739
>>169010642

I lied.
I'm to drunk to open recruitment for an LA game.

Apparently I staled last turn despite really thinking I'd finished the turn. This feels weird, even though looking at my files I definitely only did the first couple moves and never sent anything in.

How good is a seeking arrow ?

>>169026349
Depends on what you are targeting and how many you can send and how much chaff is there in a province.

Goes from melting scs to barely being able to kill good size 2 mages.

>>169026349

They're useful against human HP commanders.

We only need one more person
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=EverythingIsBalanced

>>169026689
We need only* one more person

>>169022735
>>169022907
not as bad as that dom 3 game that went on for years (is still going on?)

>>169026689
i'm in

meme birds

no idea if i'll last past turn 10

>>169027780
Nat gen could have easily lasted another year because of late game mechanics breakdown desu.

As far as i remember that dom3 game finished like a year or two ago because one of the remaining nations started stalling

>>169028764
good luck

game starting now

>>169029259
do you happen to know the name or have a link? i was looking awhile back and couldn't find the forum for it

>Pretender X and an army are laying siege to a fort
>New turn
>Pretender X has been vanquished
>Pretender X and the army appear to still be laying siege to that same fort
Did Pretender X become an angry indie or is there a chance he'll just poof away?

So do we know anything at all about what the vinemen,s kingdom was like besides have man and ogre sized inhabitants?

Did anyone else in Everything is Balanced get their turn resent?

>>169032396
no

>>169032820
Well fuck it. I'm not doing it again.

>>169033280
You can check on llama if your turn is in or not.

>>169033457
Its is. No idea why it was resent.

>>169033280
>>169033457


Game: EverythingIsBalanced
Turn number 1
Next turn due: 23:05 GMT on Thursday February 23rd

Abysia 2h file received
Caelum Waiting for 2h file
C'tis Waiting for 2h file
Fomoria Waiting for 2h file
Kailasa 2h file received
Lanka Waiting for 2h file
Machaka Waiting for 2h file
Mictlan Waiting for 2h file
Pangaea 2h file received
Therodos Waiting for 2h file
Ur Waiting for 2h file
Yomi Waiting for 2h file

post you're bless meme

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>>169036381
gib titles

At least I got to see the fucking elves die.

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>>169032029
>Ivy Kings
>Ivy Kings lived long before the coming of man, but fell into a deep slumber ages ago. The vine men followed their Kings to sleep and were all but forgotten.

>Ivy Crown
>Worn by exalted vinemen in ancient times before men drove them away.

>Crown of the Ivy King
>Worn by the High King of the exalted vinemen in ancient times, when the vinemen were still a great race.

The Vinemen were a great race, they had a High King, they got sleepy, and men drove them away. That's about all we know of their kingdoms but the men that drove them away were probably Ulmites. As for what put them to sleep, I'd guess it was the Panii or Kirke. Kirke is behind practically everything that went wrong.

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>>169036524
Fine, but thats no fun.

>>169038098
am not in the game
gonna just guess, no peeking

>>169037774
Whos Kirke and what did she fuck up so bad?

How to achieve A4 as EA arco?

>>169038796
Crystal Shield

>>169038919
It seems that will only get me A3

>>169040230
you have A3 oreiads my dude

>>169040230
Do you mean for rituals or forging? Then yes

>>169042224
Anything ;_; I just want to make that A4 helmet so I can boost other bitches and start spending the buttload of air gems I have
>>169042080
RNG fucks me over errytiem. I only get A2

>>169038597
She's just a nice girl who taught the priestesses how to heal and the witch kings how to witch

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>>168956763

Sorry to burst your bubble, but those are hawks.

>>169043474
No shit. That's why I'm obviously swapping to summoning actual great eagles.

>>168894329

I've played a shitton of Vanilla Man lately.

My take is that they are a nature nation. That means wooden warriors, swarm, are your early combat spells. A2 would be great if it wasn't on an expensive mage and only 25% of the time, but it is, so you suck that up buttercup. Howl also gets you Air Elementals, so that's what they spend their time doing - air elementals. You don't go for fucking tstrike. Anyone who advises that is dumb.

Apparently in summod you get infinite knights of avalon, and that's sorta good? Depends how much it costs. I'm sure they'd like a few casts of wooden warriors and a denied flank via INSECTS just as much as regular man troops (foresters, mostly), though. Logrian Wise Men give you the occasional E2 guy but their research is so shit that you should just use them all in fights regardless. The A1E1 guys spam phantasmal warriors (surprisingly not terrible when complimenting bugs) and then later get used for Rain of Stones traps, the E2 guys cast Strength of Giants and once you get Creeping Doom, replace your Wooden-Warriors casters with Marble Warriors casters. E1F1 guys usually just derp around magma bolting or something, but if you forge a bunch of fire gem jars they can fireball, or if you cover them in fire gems they can each summon 1 fire elemental and that might be useful or something. The E1N1 guys have a very important use - Soothing Song. Like your shittier daughters (n1a1) they make better mages wake up faster after big spells. Your crones are weird. Occasionally you get an a3 one. Your god should ideally have A5 to make air hats for those guys so they can cast Fog Warriors, but expanding is so painful without an awake that if you don't I forgive you.

If you don't have the marble warriors caster nearby, mass protection can be okay. Also sorta funny on bugs. Growing Fury, Mass Regen, Relief, are all things N3 mothers should be casting, sometimes with a mace, or N3-4 crones, either way.

>>169044316
It's okay to admit that they're an utter shit nation, Rejakor.

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>>169043964

My fault for assuming you were confused about your bird taxonomy. Carry on, my good elf.

>>169044316
Vanilla Man is pretty shit. A/N is one of the trash paths, and A/N nations are more or less always bad or subpar due to this.

Summod. Changes. Everything. Okay, you lose access to turn0 RoS (unless you're super lucky on a crone)

For starters, the mothers go from a total path combo of 3.2 magic paths to 4.25 magic paths . . . while receiving a price reduction of 10 gold. This makes them quite economical and speedy researchers, especially because while normally paying for A/N is shit, summod Man comes with some extremely good national buff spells to make it not shit.

The crone also receives a minor price reduction while getting an added full path of magic.

Man's national buff spells ensure that the paths of the mothers don't go to waste though. Bewitchment is a spammable national confusion A1/N1 spell that serves as very viable, gem free spam. Man also has a cheap national transform spell to make their crones not mm1 shitlords.

Can somebody explain using gems to boost paths in battle?
Doom is a one pearl, S3 spell. By giving an S2 mage two pearls, I can have him cast it (at the full fatigue cost).
Darkness is a four D gem, D4 spell. I have a D3 mage, but no matter how many death gems I give him, it stays grayed out in the scripting screen.

>>169042373
In the case where you have like upwards of 200+ gems sitting there not being used, it's one of those rare times you should empower a mage. That or trade for the two boosters you need or a ring, but that's not exactly an easy thing to trade for. Thought it is a lot cheaper than empowering.

>>169046260
That D3 can only burn 3 death gems.

>>169048256
Aha. Thanks.

>>169045306
A/N does have Rainbow Armor, which has some perks for thugs. I wish it had more protection, but it's already really good. But apart from that, A/N is, as you say, trash.

>>169038597
You know how there's a ton of elf nations?

Kirke caused that.

>>169055838
What bastard is responsible for all the birds and bats?

>>169057934
Shillwinter, obviously.

>>169055838
Wait, how?

>>169057934
Ahura Mazda mostly

Guys

awooheim

it's like vanheim but all the vanir are replaced with wolves

>>169062207
Are you sure it's not Niefelheim with giants replaced with wolves?

Midgard.

>>169059750
Kirke taught Skögu, the first Witch King, how to use death magic. Skögu united the Androphags and drove out the Partholonians. With nowhere else to go, the Partholonians tried to conquer Fomoria but they were defeated by magical plagues. Some of their descendants, the Nemedians, tried again but they were beaten and enslaved by the Fomorians. These Nemedians gave birth to the Fir Bolg.

The Nemedians that weren't enslaved became the Tuatha. The Tuatha saw that some of their nephews had become independent (the Fir Bolg) and easily conquered them. The Tuatha then gave birth to the Morgen and Sidhe. The Morgen would go on to found Ys while the Sidhe became part of Man and Eriu.

Kirke thus brought about or had a major impact on Fomoria, TNN, Ys, Eriu, and Man. That's a shitload of stealthy or glamoured units.

And it's all because Kirke fucked a cannibal.

I need a new PBEM. Are any starting soon?

>>169064318
But what about the other elves, Vanheim and Helheim?

>>169064912
They're not technically elves; we just call them that

>>169064912
They're probably related to the Partholonians but they're certainly not descended from them.

>>169064518
When you make one.

>when you want an LA game, but you don't want to host

>>169076880
Do it you fag.

>>169077729
I don't want people complaining that I abandoned the game after I've been defeated.

>>169077867
No one cares, and if that happens you can tell your password to someone and now he is the admin. Problem solved.

NEED MORE GAMES