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Spooky Goats Edition

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-"""progress""" wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm (embed)

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eo3qbjlixfghvs4/Debug.zip?dl=0

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Sy, Maerlande, or Nuclearmonkee
>Jump into MP feet first; ask for pretender advice in the thread

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing

Previous Pantokrator:
>>168835894
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Any cool nations left in the Sandeth game?
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>>169328101
Nations joined so far:
MA Krylud
MA Swarmhive
MA Sandeth
MA R'lyehive
MA Dassem
MA Dragenheim
MA Hegude

https://discord.gg/2dmUW7d
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>>169327964
Pretty close there anon.
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>>169328101
>>169328324
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Sandeth
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Had a whole wall of text ctrl+v'd but got lost when I made the new thread.

Short version:
Already at 7 players so we might finalize settings.

Map suggestions? Will into options myself tomorrow.

Chocolate Thrones yes/no? Fun mod, which makes shit thrones less shit, by buffing their effects, giving them summonable units etc.

Throne settings: player number x1.5 spread across mainly level 1, some level 2 and maybe 2 level 3 thrones? 70% needed to win?

If somebody still wants to join here's the link:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=InVinoVeritas
Something with UW capabilities, so squids aren't fully unchecked would be nice.
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How not to play Lanka:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Yw44HI5EA

Look at that magnificent expansion, all 7 provinces by year 1 vs AIs. He'd fit right in with LightAle.
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>>169328696
Disgusting

I was fucking around with a blank modnation that literally has no units (so you're stuck with indies only apart from your MA Marignon starter army) and I still got 10 provinces year 1 with nothing but indies, my 10 crossbowmen and pikemen, and mercs.

And the AI bought mercs too.
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Game Name: Sandeth

Settings: Check them yourself

Mods:
Alexsa Nation Pack
Better Arena

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Sandeth
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>>169328654
Unless Illwinter has fixed the bug, thrones modded to increase some scales just increase death instead. Chocolate Thrones more like Skeleton Thrones.
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>>169329847
I think most of them just give you more shit to recruit.
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>>169328654
Riley here.
Chocolate Thrones: Sure, why not?

70% seems like a fair amount.
please don't check me I'm a shitter

>>169329847
I'm okay with skeleton thrones
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>>169320647
>I wouldn't make them much before at least hitting Alt7 outside of certain circumstances

So...as I was saying...fucking useless as expanders then?
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>>169328696
>Lanka.
>3 Order.
>5 Dom.

The fuck?
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>>169328654
Ulm here.
Give a link for a chocolate mod you plan to use.
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>>169330605
1. You didn't say shit about expanding with them
2. dualwielding, low resource units WITH BOWS are actually great for expanding
2a. especially considering MA Man's other units are fucking garbage
2b. So fuck you
3. Alteration 7 is just ease of use, you can do everything at Alt 7 at alt 3, you just need more mages casting smaller AoE buffs
4. read the guide faggit I'm tired of spoonfeeding you information that someone else already wrote
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>>169331210
No I'd rather zero in on one thing out of context and use it to bash the guide I haven't read
t. anon who thinks repel is an issue for decently lead troops.
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>>169311772
Yes, he is. RIP game.
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>>169331447
kek
If there's anything I'd zero in on it's the pretender section

Dude clearly has a boner for the master lich that exceeds his common sense, though he at least gave some attention toTitan or Durrgon or Scales.

I really think something with N5D2 is the way to go for Man. Rush alteration because it's good for you, get a Momma Oak, then get Lamia Queens. Death and Blood access with only Nature Gems required- probably won't save their lategame but it's better than nothing.
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Anyone interested in another NEET ONLY game?
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>>169328654

I'd join if ME was in play. Can't go back to vanilla summons anymore.
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>>169334239
Honestly yes, but only if it's got fast turn timers AND roleplaying
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spell that gives mass fire protection?
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>>169334996
Rain sort of.
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>>169334918
>roleplaying
Literally never ended well in /domg/ games.
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>>169334996
Several, fire fend and warriors of niefelheim.
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>>169334996
Firefend, Warriors of Niefelheim - battlefield wide
There's AoE 15 or 25 or somesuch versions at a much lower level, which is probably what you're going to be using in practice.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CoolStory

What's the story behind this game?
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Sceli and Pythium - you have 2 hours before you stale.
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Why does LA Patala's Sacreds have no helmets and a shitty buckler?
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>>169334320
I'm tired of so many ME summons not scaling.
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>>169336169
Its too cool for you man, you couldnt handle it.
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>>169336595
because Patala is an EA nation that accidentally wandered into the wrong era when some monkeys went scaly
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>>169336874
So just like Mictlan?
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>>169334320
I would also like ME
it seems neat.
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Can someone link me to a good guide on how to get a proper blood economy up and running? I'd rather like the have a blast at EA Mictlan in an upcoming game, they look interesting, however I've zero experience with them.
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>>169328654

convince why i should ever play LA and i'll join
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>>169344282
elf is already removed
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>>169344329
Joining as Midgard.
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The state of /domg/ games.
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>>169347214
Well that's just awful.
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>>169347214
what the actual fuck.
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>>169347214
Tribless op
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>>169347214
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>>169348154
All those removed people, and bats are still around. For shame.
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>>169348336
Bats are tribless as well, actually, and they're being removed by Man.
They also failed their expansion. Like Ulm, Jomon, Abysia and Ragha.
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>>169348452
One thing I do quite enjoy about EA and MA Abysia is that while they might not be very good its almost impossible to fuck up expansion with them.
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memes
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>tfw no Zardoz nation
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>>169351348
Memes are illegal here, "friend".
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>>169340728
Take 8 B1 guys, forge Sanguine Dousing Rods (misc item, B1, construction 4) and have them wear them.

Get a bunch of cheap units and a few commanders to hold them. Low cost is by far the most important factor, but good action points, good precision, and flying are also valuable. EA Mictlan can use (non-blood) slaves (some of your commanders have a special command to create them), most other nations summon wolves or black hawks. National troops can work, but are relatively expensive.

Get a few cheap commanders with good strategic movement (scouts are good, especially since they're also stealthy) to ferry slaves.

Find a province with more than 5000 population. Provinces with low income are better than provinces with high income, as more population past 5000 does not give any benefits to blood hunting and you'll take an income penalty from unrest in the province you're hunting.

Put the blood mages on the province and have them blood hunt. Put the commanders with chaff on the province and patrol with them. The scouts should just hide on the province for now.

Next turn you will have blood slaves on your mages. Select your scouts (all at once), and press 'V' to transfer all slaves to them. Select any scouts holding blood slaves, and move them to a lab. When they reach a lab select the scouts and press 'Z' to move their slaves to your treasury. Move the scouts back to your blood mages to pick up more blood slaves.

Do this for more provinces if you want more slaves. If unrest is consistently too high in a province (above 50, in my opinion) send more commanders with chaff to patrol. When population in a province falls too low move everything to another province and continue blood hunting. Below 4000 is where I usually move.

Once you'd done this for a bit you can experiment with number of mages. Too few hunters per province causes high income loss for each blood slave you get, too many hunters per province means most of your mages end up finding nothing.
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>>169347214
To be fair, I only went AI last turn. I had 2 provinces, other than my capital (which was under siege).
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>>169351785
Also, since you'll need slaves to forge the Dousing Rods, I should point out that you can hunt without them - it'll just take about twice as many blood mages to get the same income (and you'll get more unrest).
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>>169352382
you were stalling every single turn, though
please refrain from doing that in the future
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SANDETH DISCORD CHANNEL GTF IN HERE BOYOS

pic unrelated but i killed that god last turn that tried to domkill me on turn 6

discord gg 2dmUW7d
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>>169354203
good job anon
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>>169329610
>>169354203

related, obviously
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Pythium staled. If he is about to stale this upcoming turn, I will look for a sub,
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fuck. i think my pc shat itself while sending the turn and it didn't attach the 2h file properly..
what happens when you send the email empty?
and can it be fixed or i am just fucked?
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>>169359227
you can always resend your turn. If it went through, it'll be like "Oh, here's confirmation on your modified turn." If you didn't, your new turn goes in as normal
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>>169359281
but i checked just now, thinking it went through okay, and it didn't and i think i 'stalled' or something
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what are the best items to give to an Eater of the Dead?
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>>169359463
then you suck and your turn didn't go through. Do your new staled turn now
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>>169359617
gift of kurgi, copper arm, vine shield
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>>169312441
>Ermor this is Tir speaking.
>I thought that you were stopping your expansion on that isle as you said before? What happend to that?

Nah I decided to do what my nation needs most. Which is more land. You better not interfere or I will declare war on you as well.
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>>169359626
fuuuuuuck. i had my turn done, why did it had to do this.
is there no way of rolling back or something?
and i wont be able to play this turn anyway, so i am requesting a 24 hr extension please. i will try to play asap.
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Game: EA_newbaria
Turn number 14
Next turn due: 16:35 GMT on Saturday February 25th

Ermor 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
Marverni Waiting for 2h file
>Tir na n'Og 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

Maverni, don't make me go all Ermor on your ass. Send in your turn.
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>>169336692

I'm kinda happy they don't. Stops people spamming them with stuff they shouldn't be spamming them with. Or finding some way to break something and then it gets nerfed into the floor.
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>>169365295
Cruxador is the hero we need.
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>>169365536
what a nice kitteh
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>>169365829
>dying to no dominion in year 4
You deserve this.
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>>169365967
If I remember the game right, this was way back when UW nations had a harder time keeping their dom around, and he'd gotten fucked over pretty hard.

Still probably should have preached, but it's understandable why he got domkilled.
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>>169366451
Of course it's understandable, it's because he's a scrub.
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How do I get a Dominions gf?
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>>169368262
Blood Hunt.
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>>169368432
>virgin women in 2017
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>>169368998
Clearly your blood isn't high enough.
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>>169368998
Teenagers will be teenagers regardless of what era you're in.
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>>169362550
I was trying not to break up with my gf, and sleeping. Fuck off
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>>169351785
Thats great, thank you so much!
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>>169368262
introduce your gf to the game
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>>169371017
normies leave

reeeeeeeeee
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https://youtu.be/58pvIk39srk?t=2

Man, this guy butchers the pronunciation of Marignon.
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>>169373365
How do you pronouce it? Do you make is sound french? "Marinion"?
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>>169373546
More like this, with the start of it replaced with "Mar":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eLiPgyaeKQ
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>>169373365
>>169373546
>>169373612

Nothing in this game should be pronounced the "American" way, they don't have a culture old enough to be included in this game.
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>>169373839
>people pronoucing Xibalba as "Ksibalba"
>it's actually "Shibalba"
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>>169373903
>people pronouncing it as "Dom-ini-ons Four"
>its actually "awe-tiz-im sim-you-later"
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>>169373546
I pronounce it "Marignon". As in >>169373612


>>169373903
It's actually Xibalba. The X represents a velar or palatal fricative, sh is a postalveolar fricative.

>>169373839
Xibalba, Mictlan, Nazca, and LA Atlantis are all American.
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>>169374275
>Xibalba, Mictlan, Nazca, and LA Atlantis are all American.

Meso-american, not modern North American.
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>>169374385
>inuits
>not north american
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>>169374385
Nice goalpost moving.
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>worrying about pronunciation in a game without spoken lines or voice chat
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>>169374448
>Inuits
>American

The fuck are you smoking?
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>>169374568
Inuits are indigenous people of the continent of North America. If you meant "America" as a country, you're a retarded nigger.
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>>169374568
>>169374385
>Nunatsiavut, Nunavik, Nunavut, Nunatukavut
>not in North America
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>>169374668
Of course I meant America as a country when I was referring to the retarded way Americans pronounce things...it doesn't make any damn sense otherwise.
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>>169374385
Yeah, these guys sure look like extinct mesoamericans.
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>>169374668
So when americans say god bless america they are also blessing brazil, mexico and the whole big lot of countries in america?
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>>169374735
>Meso-american, not modern North American.
North America is a continent, the country is named United States of America.

>>169374773
No, when Americans say god bless America they actually mean Satan.
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Hold the fuck up I only just realised there is FUCKING ESKIMOS in Dominions 4. Shows you how little attention I pay to the "water" nations.

Are they any good?
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>>169374856
They're uncontested masters of LA UW. They can remove squids and ghosts easily if you're not retarded.
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>>169374836
>the country is named United States of America.

...and is commonly shortened to "America" in conversation, as you well know.

EG:
>"The retarded way Americans pronounce things"
clearly is referring to the country and not the American continent, as that wouldn't make a damn bit of sense.
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>>169373903
I've been out doing normie things all night and am super wasted but this is amazing
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>Dominions 4 thread gets busy.
>Whats going on?
>Dominions 5 announced?
>Nope.
>Its just an argument.

Oh, you guys. Answer me this, is MA the best age to play in if Ermor is banned as a pick? I know there's other popkill going on, but nothing so cancerous.
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>>169376196
They're all terrible.
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FUCK
YES
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>>169328575
>>169328324
>>169329610
I'll join if you drop Sandeth and ban them.
They are way too strong in too many ways.
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>>169376196
I think EA is still better. A good chunk of interesting nations vanish or become a lot more boring by MA.
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Has anyone got a guide on how to script your tramplers correctly?

I seem to fuck it up 50% of the time and end up with they taking the first hit rather than giving it.
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>>169374836
Nobody cares Murrican, this is a European thread.
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>>169377446
Count squares.
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>>169358179
don;t bother he has like 4 provinces
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>>169381721
who's eating the poor pythium?
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>>169381847
Pythium. He had terrible expansion.
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>>169376825
This desu.
I also want to join that game, but if Sandeth plays it's fairly obvious that they are going to win.
Recruitable immortals. EVERYTHING is immortal.
Their immortals even reform in battle, too.
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>>169329610
>>169376825
>>169382076

But guys, they can't cross rivers, its totally balanced...
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>>169380126
This.

>>169377446
I'm an expert counting squares, do you need any help?
This is something i did for monkeys some weeks ago.
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>>169382907
It woud be balanced if there was a river around their cap, then.
And they could start with an awake amphibian pretender and build a fort in the other side of the river and still win the game.
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>>169344580
YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY JOIN YOU LIAR

7 players at least 1 more needed:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=InVinoVeritas
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>>169344580
>>169382995
>admin removes elves as soon as they join the game
Based.
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>>169382918
Also this is me counting squares against heavy cavalry.
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what is this game? I want to play it.
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>>169382918
hi carlix!
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>>169384681

There is a clue in the OP.
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>>169384681
It's a grand strategy/autism simulator
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>>169384681
Bad bump, I rate it 1/10.
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is ABsoluteMadMan's Jotunheim here? i would like to understand better our ingame conversation, because i think i've lost some lines.
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>>169384681
Good luck, next turn is in 23 hours when some other shitlord actually submits their turn after getting an extension already.
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>>169384858
n-no!
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>>169384681
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>>169385821
I still need to retake the province that you ran your boar into. Aside from that, we have no other deals that I know of
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>>169373903

>people pronounce Tir Na N'Og as "Tear (as in crying) Na Nog (as in nig)
>it's actually "Tear (as in ripping) Na Noh-gh"
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i need an extension of at least 24 hrs. in JobbingToXibalba game. i am abysia. i will try to play as soon as i can.
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>>169391460
Its actually Tear (as in crying) Na Noh-gh.
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>>169391460

Gaelic anglicization is kinda terrible in general. None of them sound anything at all like they're written. See: Bean Sidhe.
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>>169387884
w-what about the message then?
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>>169391642
Also doesn't help that different regions of the country pronounce the same words quite differently.
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>>169391642

>bean seedy
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>>169391547
and the same for VanillaNewbs as i requested here
>>169360262
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>>169391789
Its pronounced ban shee nigger.
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>>169391958
>ban shee nigger
Where does the nigger sound come from?
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>>169391460
>>169391631

I always pronounced it Tyr-na-nog
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>>169392205
Comes from the fada.
>>169392248
As long as you drag out the o bit thats fine. Sounds like no with a g on the end rather than noggin.
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You guys are such nerds.
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>>169392554
I love you anon.
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>>169391958
We have a word that is pronounce "ban shee".

It's spelled "banshee".
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>>169347214
I had to stale/AI in all my games because I'm too sick to think and only really browse the thread to apologize

Ulm btw
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Wait, so is it "tear" as in crying or "tear" as in ripping?
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>>169290703
good for you, anon
i mean both not kys'ing and not playing this shit game anymore
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>>169392554
I get a pass since its my language.
>>169393775
Its the same word spelt different. We spell it bean sĂ­, they used to spell it ban sĂ­de, and the english spell it banshee because they didnt give a fuck and just wrote down what they heard.
>>169394043
Tear as in crying or tier as in shit tier.
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Game: DontStaleDesuSenpai2
Turn number 19
Next turn due: 19:07 GMT on Saturday February 25th

Abysia 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
>Pelagia Waiting for 2h file
Ulm 2h file received

Two stales in a row incoming.
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>>169395789
You beat me to this by like 5 seconds.
Fuck you fish.
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Is that mod game actually going on or are they still just waiting for more nations?
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>>169382995
So there is 8 of us. Will you start a game or are you still thinking about mods?
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>>169398308
Waiting for more nations, probably because the admin joined as the most op nations of them all and some people were complaining.
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>>169395789
So we do need a sub (he he) for Pelagia it seems. Anyone up for being the only UW nation on Peliwyr that can probably take on most land nations?
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>>169401358

How do you play a land game with Pelagia?
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>>169401784
Poorly while you wish you could take your knights out of the water.
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>>169402335

Any guide on Pelagia?
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>>169401784

Generally, with shrouded (because you took a big bless for your Knights, RIGHT?) thugs, after which you use the best options among land-indies you can find.
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>>169403072

Basically QUAD BLESS is the only way to go for Pelagia, especially for MA right? Maybe drop the quad, put some blood and you got a crazy late-game?
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>>169403454

Honestly, quad is a meme. But going dual with a couple minors is fine. Knights are really fucking good.
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>>169401784
You've got amphibious RoS casters, you figure it out anon
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Why aren't you playing on the best map at this very moment?
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>>169404906
there need to be foodmeme nations first.
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>>169405957
>fruit and veg vs meat vs eggs, fish and other food people try to say is vegatarian but is clearly not vs fried versions of all of them vs candy
Sounds neat.
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>>169406325
>fried versions of all of them

Fried food being the undead equivalent with cancerous hot oil dominion?
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>>169404906
That's actually amazing. I'd love to play a game on this map.
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>>169404906
Sheeeit I'm gonna go make some sushi actually
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Playing as Abyssia (MA), how do you deal with the abundance of map move 1 amongst your units? Is there some transportation spell they can use I'm missing?

What about the Old Age on your dudes? Does Abyssia have a way of dealing with that?
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>>169407606
Fruit and veg is big nature, Meat is blood, nature and fire, Fried is big death and fire, Misc is random stuff, possibly terrain specific, Candy is astral.
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>>169404906
Because my parents always taught me not to play with my food.
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>>169408809
>how do you deal with the abundance of map move 1 amongst your units?
You walk slowly everywhere. Slow movement is one of Abysia's big weaknesses.
>What about the Old Age on your dudes?
Boots of Youth.
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>>169408809
>Is there some transportation spell they can use I'm missing?
Gateway, castable by your Warlocks. Use Whip of Command (easily forgeable by any N1 idiot indie mage) to boost their leadership.
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>>169409338
What level is gateway at again?
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>>169411360
Now, if only there was a site which allowed you to check all spells in the game... we could name it 'Dom4 Inspector' and put it in the OP. Wouldn't that be great?
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>>169411580
Got to say something to keep the bumps coming.
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>>169411987
post waifus
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>>169414046
I dont got no waifus to post.
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>>169414046
why post any other waifu? You've already posted the single best waifu.
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clearly the best waifus are skeletons.
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Whats the best way to script Javelin throwers, say from EA Arco? Fire Closest? Will they move in once they're done with the Javelins?
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>>169419810
They'll throw the javelins automatically when they are in range, and then move in to attack.
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>>169414046
More tits is always better.

Plus have you seen a snake swallowing things? Deepthroat central right here.
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>>169414046
Maneater, make you work hard,
Make you spend hard,
Make you want all, of her love,
She's a maneater,
make you buy cars,
make you cut cards,
make you fall, real hard in love.
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>>169414046
Fact: Nothing and no one can compete with Patala when it comes to waifus
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Thrones six level 1, three level 2 and 8 points needed to win?

Added Chocolate Thrones 1.31 since people seemed to be okay with it.

You niggers haven't suggested any maps though. "The Desert Eye" might be alright, although it probably has no caves for Argartha.
I've been out of the loop as far as maps are concerned for a long time, so you guys suggest something good.

>>169398881
I just came home, tired as shit and almost going straight to bed.
Back home in around 15 hours after work.
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>>169421328
You've strange tastes lad, but whatever works for you I guess.
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>>169421816
Plane of Rusty Caves
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>>169421328
Speaking of Patala, the fuck is the point in their sacreds? They're shit, cap only too.
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>>169422650
No purpose, really. Illwinter just wants to cater to fetishists. They're earning millions $ selling naga figurines, you know.
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So does the Sandeth game still permit the vanilla nations?

How to people feel about Ermor?
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>>169423459
Not nearly OP enough. You'll get creamed, lad.
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>>169423459
>two popkill nations
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>>169422838
reptillians?
is illwinter colluding with davic icke?

is this too much /x/?
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>>169422226
Squids only get 8 UW provinces early on.
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>>169422650
Your naked nagas are recruitable in caves too, and there is a recruitable naga pathless commander that you won't get in your cap.
So get some caves and start wasting gold there too!
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>>169423817
And now there's Atlantis to compete with me.
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If it gets to a point where you can get her is this mad bitch with 90 Death Gems?
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>>169424775
Give her a shademail haubergeon, flying boots and drop her on your opponent's cap and then laugh when he patrols only to have his patrollers killed by all the bullshit spells she can pull out
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>>169423524
Maybe I just want to sit in my capital and cast Burden of Time.
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>>169426029
80% of the nations have at least disease healers iirc.
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>>169408593
I now remember why I stopped making sushi

Jesus christ, so much fucking mess and hassle for such a small amount of actual food
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>>169424775
With the shikome generation she probably generates 4-5 gems per turn effectively, depending on how many shikome per turn it is.

She's also effectively Tartarian level in paths and stats. I'd say if wishing for a Seraph for 100 pearls is 'worth' it, or summoning 9 tarts (maybe 1 of which will be as good as this) is 'worth' it, she damn well is.
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>>169427415
Thats what you get for eating raw flesh like a savage.
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>>169427415
That's why you make it in massive quantities and then sell it to other slant-eyed motherfuckers in the street.
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>>169428174
Or weebs.

I can't believe people actually try to privately make sushi at home. You gotta buy then fish, clean it, cut little squares, get some rice and put all that shit together for a meal that takes 2 minutes to eat. The only time I saw that ever happening was on the movie wallstreet.
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>>169430695

To be fair, buying some fish, some rice and some seaweed costs WAY less than buying sushi.
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Is this guy as good at the game as the production value of his videos?

https://youtu.be/2IhpfmtcGnk?list=PLGB6RkFB7ZmNFUDGiKw_X8DffeD5iUhP5
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>>169432097
No.

But that's mostly because the production value is really legit, while the actual skill level is maybe slightly higher than domg average.

tbf though when he inevitably does awful in that game it will be around 20% him making mistakes, 30% him playing nonsummod Man, and 50% getting mapfucked.
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Since Lukas is trying to kill one of my games by 48h postponements, I decided to start a new one.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=NotAnotherLukasGame

It's NEETONLY 2.0, basically, which means 16h turn timer. I won't ever change it, nor will I postpone a turn for any reason (other than Llama being dead, I guess). Staling 2 times in a row = AI.

Boring stuff: Early Ages, Grigionia, 6 players.
Mods: WH, summod, Better Arena.
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>>169432627
good thing its only 6 players, cause 16h in a 14 player lategame nightmare sounds impossible.
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>>169433358
t. Lukas
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>>169430695
The only scenario I can see it being worthwhile is if you want to impress guests.
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>>169434641
>buy sushi from somewhere
>but a sushi-making kit so the crime is perfect
Now you saved yourself some hours and a lot of effort for the same result and your guests are equally impressed.
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>>169436482
>sushi-making kit
I knife and cutting board?
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>>169436549
With random kanji on it.
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>>169431737
The opportunity cost of spending time making sushi will net you negative unless
>>169434641

>>169436482
Wouldn't the cost of buying sushi make the endeavor more expensive than to buy sushi outright? Also
>>169436549
as said I have no idea what a sushi making kit is, but I can probably guess it's function does not outweigh its cost.

Economy People. Economy! These ideas apply to dom. Don't waste gold on cheap useless shit if it ain't going to net you more gain than an expensive unit and of course visa versa.
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>>169438975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V8_e3V89iE
I dont know, this does look pretty fucking easy. Bit pricey for 25ish bucks but at least its reusable.
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>>169439601
That's not sushi, it's kimbap the korean style of sushi. Sushi is the shit with a fish ontop of rice, kimbap is the one with rice and shit rolled in dried seaweed. Literally the only thing you need to make kimbap is the rolling mat which is like 1 dollar at any asian store. If you have difficultly rolling a giant blunt then cutting that shit with a knife you have other concerns that you should be addressing instead of buying an overpriced board. Just simple cooking experience will be enough to do everything that 25$ piece of shit can offer, but universally applicable.

/domg/ cooking and cooking products.
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>>169440651
Korea is clearly the superior country anyway.
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Last Call
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Sandeth
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>>169440869
Gimme half an hour to look through the nations and if I can find one I like I'll join up
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>>169440869
I really shouldn't join more games but fuck it. The bulls are in.
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>>169382995
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=InVinoVeritas

I'll join when I get home.
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>>169440869
You not going to wait for this guy? >>169442560
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Apparently I cheated.
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>>169445263
Apparently Ruthum cheated
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>>169427989
For 90 gems, you can probably get 2-3 good tarts. They may not be individually as good as her, but together they're way better.

I agree about the gemgen though, she'd probably be worth having sit around just for a bunch of shikome and 3 gems per month.
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>>169445660
Well that is me. I dont think I cheated. Not really sure what I did to cheat.
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>>169433358

Being a NEET should be part of the contest. 6 hour turns, 16 players, final destination.
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>>169446162
6 min turns, 16 player blitz.
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>>169445879
You must have much better luck with tarts than me. Is the actual probability of non-feeblemind, non-mute tartarians known? It feels like one in five (or less)
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>>169447057
I've only made about ~20 tarts so far but it feels like 1/2 are good.

I also got a non-afflicted S7 commander.
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>>169447057
This thread is as dead as those tarts.
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>>169447057
Chance for feeblemind is 50%. I have tested this extensively. Mute is much rarer, but I didn't check exact odds.

Ofc some of those non feeblemind tarts are the male monstra, whose pretty weak, or have any array of other afflictions ofc, but feeblemind itself is about a 50/50 coin toss.
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>>169446280
4 min turns, 6 mins is way to long for a blitz turn
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>>169432627
Can you post the map
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>>169455151
Gotcha.
http://www.moddb.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/addons/grigionia

Added Better Arena link as well.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kazojc1m371tbkq/BetterArena.7z?dl=0
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Any tips for quickly getting over a case of burnout?

I'd hate to stand down armies because I can't be assed to script them properly, but I'd despise myself more for losing those same armies to carelessness.
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>>169457259
Play only one game at a time.

If I play multiple games it feels like I don't give it my all with the scripting because "I've always got other games where I'm in better position so why bother"
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>>169461901
I feel the same way too
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>>169469769
Skeletons get out.
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This might be a stupid question but here goes nothing.
I know the game adds 2D6 for Attack Skill vs Defense Skill checks, but does it also do the same thing for Damage vs Protection?
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>>169472303
All rolls include DRN (dominion random number). DRN is 2d6, exploding sixes, which means when a six is rolled you get 5 added to a total instead and roll another die. MOST opposed rolls in the game include DRN, some that include 1d6, exploding dice are magic duel, and contesting/dispeling globals.
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>>169472465
>All rolls include DRN
I meant all combat rolls, obviously, but please refer to the manual about precision/ranged attacks for some more fuckery.
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Do mages skip over invalid targets while spellcasting?

Say I want to cast Mind Burn/Soul Slay at a necromancer, would my mage target him exclusively if he was the only non-mindless enemy on the field?
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>>169472465
No, magic duel isn't a exploding dice roll, just 1d6.
A S7 will survive to infinite S1 mages using mind duel.
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>>169472643
Mages never complete orders that have no eligible targets, and this is the foundation of some strats like the one you described. If there's nobody to banish, they won't cast banishment, if there's no sacreds nobody will be blessed etc. So yeah, that strategy works. Great against MA Ermor because they have a ton of mindless chaff and only a few valuable non-mindless mages.
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>>169472786
Huh, you're right. I forgot about the mobile S9 strat against low astral nations.
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>>169472303
Yes, it will add a DRN to damage and protection before calculating damage done.

>>169472839
>Great against MA Ermor because they have a ton of mindless chaff and only a few valuable non-mindless mages.
You're forgetting about ghouls.
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>>169472908

And what strat is it? Scripting 5x magic duel to kill 5 mages? Totally worth the time of a S9 and the points spent on that!
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>>169473061
I'm not. Ghosts are for forts and occasional safety net for mindblasts/sou slays, but skeleton scouting parites won't have them most of the time, so you can easily counterraid with a soul slay spammer.

>>169473104
It was a joke, obviously, and I mostly meant a passive magic duel defence. It actually happened in a real game, but some luck was involved. Instead of bringing any S1 mages to the big battle I only brought a S6 lich. Enemy S1 mages started exploding one by one. Shit was fun.
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>>169473214
Skeleton scouting parties won't have a mage either. MA Ermor has better things to do with mages, and tons of leaders for their chaff.

Getting a mound king and 50 skeletons is still worth it, but what you said implied you were using it against an actual army.
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>>169461901
I know that feel. Makes it easier to just go AI as well.
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>>169473061
And fucking literal lictors.
It's not good against ermor in general, but it might be useful if he is bringing only chaff for some reason.
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>>169426693
100% do. Faerie Queens
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>>169474267
But those modnations get them for like 200 gold in their forts since turn 1, depending on the nation. BoT rush wasn't a good idea, sorry.
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>>169474267
Besides that being really lategame and impractical to get 1 per fort, I doubt 100% of nations have a reasonable path to N5.
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>>169475430
Embrace the new empowerment meta, anon
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Man, are you here? It's about the item I asked you to forge.
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Should LA Bogarus pick a Magic scale for Misfortune given they have firebirds, or rather leave them neutral?
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Pelagia do your fucking turn.
And please do a double this time you reprehensible individual.
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What do you do when your provinces are diseased / have plague?

I'm patrolling so the unrest is low or at zero, but the disease doesnt seem to be abating.
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>>169481225
Can you be more specific? The magic sites that spred diseases wont stop doing it even if the unrest drop to zero, or if anything else happens. They just won't stop spreading diseases.

If you mean a event or the message from BaneVenom charm, well, I'll need more info.
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>>169481225
Do you have enough supplies?
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>>169481340
>>169481834
I've just noticed that someone has the Throne of Pestilence, I assume thats whats causing it?
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Reminder to join
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=NotAnotherLukasGame

EA, 6 players, 16h turn timer.
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Well since so many people recommended maps (1 person), I guess I'll just go ahead and pick "The Old Kingdom". Has at least 1 cave, enough water provinces for Atlantis and squids to fight over and 16.something provinces per player. My last 2 games were on that map and I'm kinda sick of it and the starting positions can be less than ideal sometimes, but oh well.

Will experiment with thrones till I find a nice distribution, then check if I have the most recent versions of the mods and then start it.

If you want to redo your pretender, then better redo him soon.
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>>169479436
Please respond.
I'm not sure what would be better event wise. Getting some better magic events, or having better luck with my good scales in general.
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>>169482996
Could you give a link to the map ?
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>>169484437
I think you'll be able to download it from the gamepage once I update it.
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>>169484637
Also are you using worthy heroes 5.8.0 or 5.8.1 ?
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>>169484760
Like I said, I'll be soon checking the mods and switching them out for their newest versions.
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>>169481225
Put up a dome, preferably one of the ones that counterattacks like fire or water. If it's a remote attack spell, that will put a stop to it in a turn or two.
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>>169484760
llamaserver has only 5.8 listed (which is 5.8.0 I assume).
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Can Fog Warriors be cast with anything under A5?

With A4 they'll need 3 gems for the spell and 1 for the boost, and it's 300 fatigue so I don't see it happening.

Also does communion path boost increase the number of gems they can burn on a spell as well?
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>>169485618
They fall asleep immediately, but aside from that it's fine. If you have A4 access, then you have A3 access, so get storm up, have your FW caster cast stormpower then FW the next turn.
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>>169485607
>>169484760
Nevermind, the 5.8 link brings you to 5.8.1 anyway.
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>>169485762

Right so with Storm I can boost the A4 to A5, then cast it with one gem extra for 150 fatigue.
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Game is started. Looking forward to it.
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FUCK
Forgot to send it my real pretender.
Unstarting real quick and restarting.
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>>169486443
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>>169486568
Pretender name was a placeholder. Got to meme son. I hope you understand.
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>>169486106
You don't need to worry about fatigue over 200 for spellcasting when it's a single mage casting one big spell. Only Communion Slaves take damage for spells cast beyond 200 fatigue. Anyone else will just pass out at 200.
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>>169486903

You cannot cast spells that will make you land above 200 fatigue in non-communions. Your mage will NOPE the fuck out of it.
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>>169487450
Wrong!
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>>169487450
Nope. How else would spells like Living Water ever get cast?
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Pretender names.
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>>169484760
5.8.1 is just a fix for the tga links for those that didn't have the older versions of WH
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>>169487781
>>169487734

By having levels above the requierd, either naturally or by using gems to boost. Having one level above a 300 fatigue spell makes it 150. You cannot cast it if it makes you end up at 300. You are both wrong.
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>>169489627
Stay bad, then.
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>>169487450
>>169489627
You're retarded, anon.
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>>169489627
>>169487450
>he's never cast Living Fire with a level 3 mage spending 3 gems
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>>169489627
Have you ever even played the game?
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>>169489552
>>169486335
>>169486443
I have problem with worthy heroes. Can somebody help?
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>>169491210
fug. I missed the banner. One sec.
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>>169490608
yeah, check out my win rate :^)
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>>169490080

Living fire is 200 fatigue. You can cast it no problem with any mage that can reach the casting level.

Fog Warriors is a level 5 spell that costs 3 gems and 300 fatigue. As an A5(or A4 boosted to A5 with stormpower) you can cast it by using one extra gem to boost your casting level to 6, decreasing the spells cost by 50%, to 150 fatigue. Your mage will fall asleep but can still cast it.

You cannot cast Fog Warriors as an unboosted A4, because you will need one gem to boost your casting level to A5, and 3 gems to pay for the spell. You'll have spent all the gems your mage can in one spell(his path in gems), and the spells fatigue cost is 300, meaning your mage will not cast the spell because it would cost more than 200 fatigue.

Your mage cannot end up on over 200 fatigue after he casts a spell.
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>>169491392
You CAN cast Fog Warriors with an A4. I've done it all the time.
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>>169491392
>You cannot cast Fog Warriors as an unboosted A4
Wrong!
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>>169491478

Yes if you use summon stormpower as I said. You cannot without it.
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>>169491392
Can someone just test this out and get a screenshot just so this guy will shut up?
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>>169491557
Nigger, test this shit instead of continuing to talk out of your ass you fucking retard.
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>>169491557
Start a game on debug mod. Play EA Caelum. Recruit an Eagle King, give him 4 air gems, send him with some troops to the nearest throne, scripted to cast Fog Warriors on turn1. Check results. And then, feel free to stop talking out of your ass, retard.
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>>169491210
>>169491296
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B51DS6LWagFTZ21OYVkxT2xNOHM

The 5.8 dm file will work fine with games on llama hosted using WH 5.8. This version just adjusts the references to the images to make your local version work.
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After getting the harbinger as mari what should I do?
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>>169492016
Go AI and join another game with a good nation.
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>>169492130
Like MA xibalba?
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>>169488675

I was going to play Bogarus and make my pretender a Bogdanoff.
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>>169492505
Do you need a quick rundown?
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Yeah I guess it does work. What's the point of spells having 300, 400 fatigue then if the mage can just default to 200?
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>>169491971
>>169491296
Ok it works now. I submitted my turn. But you also make your map available to download.

http://www.moddb.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/addons/the-old-kingdom
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>>169492813
So higher paths don't treat it like some 20 fatigue spell and keep casting afterward.
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>>169492813
If you were capable of thinking about it for a second, you'd realize that it matters for higher level mages, com-boosted spells, and using extra gems.
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>>169492863
I'm not the admin of that game. Just the mod guy.
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>>169492813
I think that every level beyond lessens the fatigue.

So for example spell A requires 3F and costs 300 fatigue.
A mage that is 3F it will cost 300 fatigue, but a mage that is 4F it will cost 150 fatigue.

Something along these lines.
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>>169492863
5 seconds in google, looks like you passed the test.
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Can someone explain me what does Plague do? I tried it and even if the visuals revealed that some units were affected, I couldn't see any observable damage on the non-undead it was affecting.
It might deal 1 damage every 5-10 turns or something like that, since some mages that were affected weren't at full hp, but after 30 turns they didnt die or got serious damage.


Please someone red pill me on how does this work. There isn't even a "Plagued" tag there, damn.
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>>169492670

Actually no because I'm a Bodababy.
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>>169493136

It goes by 1/2 for the first level above, then 1/3rd, 1/4th and so on for every level above.
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>>169493862
I meant the Dominions version.
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>>169493986

Oh then yeah I need a quick rundown.
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>>169494175
Quick rundown on them:
>Ulminati bow to Bogdanoffs
>in contact with Doom Horrors
>posess magic abilities in all paths
>control Bogarus with an iron but fair fist
>own castles and temples all over the map
>direct descendants of an ancient divine bloodline
>bankrolled the first city in EA
>own basically every single magic research lab
>first designer SCs with be Bogdanoff SCs
>both brothers said to have 400+ MR
>the Bogdanoffs are in permanent communion with the Grigori, making them immune to fatigue
>they researched Construction 8 within a week
>the twins are about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by the inspector
>in reality, Blood Feasts have made them into timeless beings, leaving them only with minor aesthetic side effects
>have a friendly competition going on to become Pantokrator and succeeded to do so countless times, only to step down from godhood to repeat the process time and time again for sport
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>>169492813
because fatigue = gem cost x 100. Fatigue is derived from the cost, not the other way around.
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>>169491557
Man, is that why everyone loses to me when I pull out Fog Warriors with my A4 mages turn0?

Are they just too retarded to expect it?
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>>169495293
>>169493986
Ulm here. There seems to be a problem when I try to send a 2h file. What could be the reason?
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who is best grill in all of domg
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>>169499436
k8
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>>169499490
disgusting
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>>169499349
The game was restarted. Use the newest .trn file.
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>Ermor Waiting for 2h file
Helheim 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

>Ermor Waiting for 2h file
Helheim 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

>Ermor Waiting for 2h file
Helheim 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

I have it on good authority that these Ermorians have skeletons hidden inside of them. We have to stop them!
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>>169501352
>wanting to stop ermor over xibalba

t. bats
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>>169498265
not really
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@169501536
>slaves
>gems
You don't deserve a (you).
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>>169498265

Other way around. Gem cost is fatigue / 100, rounded down.
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>>169501689
No difference. You can easily mod a spell to use 1 gem and give 199 fatigue. Just take a look at any mod which adds/changes spells. They all use #fatiguecost X tag (both battlefield spells and rituals). >>169501758 is correct.

Consider learning how the game works before you try to act smug next time.
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>>169502417
Slaves still aren't gems.
Opinion discarded.
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>>169502526
no u
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>>169502526

Are you intentionally pretending to be retarded? Because ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>169502691
I'm not, are you?
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>>169502691
Let him be, he keeps the thread alive.
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>>169502814
a) I'm not trolling.
b) I'm not the guy who he was originally arguing with.
c) I just wanted to point out that if you argue about spells and their gemcosts, don't suddenly start giving examples of blood spells, which use a different set of rules in some regards.
d) Yes, I'm this autistic.
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>>169502814
What's the point in keeping a thread alive if half the posts are shitposts?
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>>169503467
>c) I just wanted to point out that if you argue about spells and their gemcosts, don't suddenly start giving examples of blood spells, which use a different set of rules in some regards.
In what regards? Certainly not in terms of fatigue cost and gem/slave usage.
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>>169503825
Blood is all over the place with fatigue and "gem" usage.
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>>169503575
I, uh, I'm not sure. Isn't keeping the thread alive something we just do?
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>>169503575
You never amounted to anything, but your parents still kept you alive.
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>>169504049
It's not. Post some examples if you think otherwise.
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>>169504204
Your basic combat spells all require resources.
Hight fatigue costs on nearly all of them.

Maybe "all over the place" was the wrong thing to say, but it's fairly different from regular schools.
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>>169504647
That's true, most (not all) blood spells require "gems". But you mentioned here >169503467 that they use
>a different set of rules
which isn't true at all. When it comes to fatigue or "gem" usage, blood magic works in the exact same way like all other paths.

That's why there's no reason to shitpost about using a blood spell as an example of gemspending, really.
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>>169505007
Look at all the other paths though.
Non of their gemspending combat spells cost x99.
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>>169505424
That's ONE spell, which means that the exception is on the spell, not the school. Retard.
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>>169505424
Not in vanilla, no. But there's no reason for them not to. Pretty sure there was a mod which gave RoS 199 fatigue cost, for instance.
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>>169505578
So what are you saying? That I'm right?

>>169505737
Well obviously you can change it, but what the original anon said holds true for the regular magic paths.
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>>169505578
Calm down anon.
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>>169505891
>what the original anon said holds true for the regular magic paths
It doesn't, though. It isn't how the game works, it's just how it seems to work based on incomplete information.

All magic paths in game use the same set of rules and there's no reason to differentiate between them.
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>>169505891
>obviously you can change it
It's not changing it. The original anon said that fatigue cost = gems * 100. It isn't true. The fact that there's only one spell in the game which proves otherwise shouldn't make you say "well that's because that path works differently!".
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>>169506354
>The original anon said that fatigue cost = gems * 100.
Go to the inspector, spell section, select combat spells, select fire/earth/water/air/nature/astral/death and check the fatigue cost of the gem spells.
It's true.
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>>169506747
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>>169507026
I think you mean to quote >>169506354
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>>169507173
I think I know whom I meant to quote, anon.
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>>169507261
Uh, thanks for helping me out then. Even if it's with a fan-made manual.
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>>169507414
Anon, are you sure you're not retarded?

>>169498265
and
>>169501758
are contradictory statements, can't you see that? The manual also contradicts what you said here >>169506747
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>>169507664
No, I don't see it (whatever "it" is supposed to be). And just for protocol, from my point of view, you are the retharded one. So we might end here. There's no consensus to be had.
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>>169508005

I'm not sure why you think consensus is relevant. The mechanic is gemcost = floor(fatiguecost / 100), which is trivially easy to prove.
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Hows this for an EA Agartha pretender?

A8B8 3O2P3H0L0M Fountain of Blood. The idea being to use the air and strength boosts from the bless on my stone hurlers. Stone hurlers suck dick without a bless but maybe they can work with one.
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>>169510772
They still suck dick with the bless
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>>169510772
Fun meme. Shit build.

Run sloth and growth, since growth is the best money scale and hurlers have no res cost.
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>>169510929
>hurlers have no res cost
yeah but my basic guys do, and I feel like I need the chaff; hurlers have no armor.
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>>169510772
you NEED to add F9 for flaming boulders
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>>169511139
Well, see, the thing is that non-meme Agartha's actual army composition is made up of mages, magma kiddos, earth elementals, living mercuries, penumbrals, olms, and occasionally indies. Your meme build basically just gets less of that (fewer mages and olms) and adds in hurlers. You're still using summons to do most of your work.
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>>169511434
so people don't actually use pale ones?
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>>169511587
you use them to help siege castles and evo bait, sometimes. You don't expect them to actually help win fights.
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Is vengeance of the dead worth casting?
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>>169513268
It probably depends.
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>>169510772
They're not nearly worth the effort, because the range is just too damn short even when buffed like that. That said,
>>169511268
has the right idea if you're going to be memeing.
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>>169510772
Would rather use unblessed Olms than A8B8 Stone Hurlers.
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>>169513608
me too, but olms are cap-only. with A8B8 maybe I can make sacreds from all my forts, not just my capital.
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>>169513872
Wouldn't N9B9 be better?

You can output more regenerating blood vengeance hp than any other player in that age.
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>>169513268
Nope. It summons chaff proportional to kills, so your average mage will only get a few units which he can take no problem, whereas your SC will get a shitload and mow them all down. I'm sure there's a situation where it's useful but I can't think of any.
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>>169514080
The point is to make my hurlers snipe people with boulders. If my hurlers are taking damage, I fucked up somewhere.

Or are you suggesting I go N9B9 and use my melee giants instead?
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>>169514348
Rain of stones casters?
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>>169514651
The latter.

Archery in dominions is all about massabilty. Sacred hurlers cannot be massed as quickly as say composite bowmen so they suck. 1 rock can only kill 1 dude per turn no matter how much prec and str you stack. Ammo is also limited so after 5 shot, assuming they get them off your sacreds are useless. Best case scenario your 40 gold dual bless sacred kills 5 guys.

The unique thing about EA Agartha is that is has recruit everywhere giant sacreds. They make interesting damage sponges with N9. Damage sponges can be made into weapons with the addition of B9. Best case scenario your sacreds tank enemy attacks and nukes, killing troops and mages left and right thanks to BV.

Bad thing about this is due to their size your Sacreds don't proc as much BV per nuke as size 2 sacreds. On the other hand they can survive more.
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>>169515429
I'll go ahead and cover my ass by saying that this isn't actually the proper way to play Agartha but merely a suggestion for a meme build that might be fun to try and not result in a lackluster impression due to you losing instantly.
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>>169515429

Well, you say that. It'll be shit against humans on account of no massability as you say. Against high-prot giants (such as E9N9 Niefel) your boulders will actually deal damage, where archers wouldn't.

Still not very good.
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>>169519392
I doubt it. Please test your boulder throwning guys with blockers against the equal cost of E9N9 Niefel Giants. Let me know the results.
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Sandeth is OP
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Theres a dirty great Divine Mummy trampling all over one of my Throne Provinces, a province which has 4 other magic sites in it.

How do I evict this beast in an efficient fashion?
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>>169525131
Specifically this giant shitlord.
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>>169525131
>>169525454
Size 2 troops with good damage value.
I trink I sent 20-30 barbarians at it, none died and only 3 got diseased.
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>>169525068
Just rush them down before they get big.
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Best strategy as ermor against Ys? Asking for a friend
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>>169526505

5k skeles uw. Most skele counters dont work uw.
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>>169526505
>>169526742
fuck I'm retarded. My friend is Arco, not ermor.
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>>169526826
Raid from the sea like an asshole?
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>>169526826
out-evo them
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>>169528712
Arco can't breath underwater ;_;
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>>169530913
Oh right. Mind Burn motherfucker.
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>>169526826
Stellar Cascades their sacreds into the fucking dirt
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Are you mad enough to play a game with 16h turn timer? If so, join:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=NotAnotherLukasGame
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>Mage has a 100% AESD and a 25% AESD
>Need at least D path
>Recruit 20 mages
>Not a single D path

JUST
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>>169533195
Can we get a motion to rename NoBully to NoTurns?
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>>169535868
NoBully is over anyway. I just hope Today_Local_Domg_Man won't end up lukas'd to death too.
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this game needs a trebuchet
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>>169536526
Are you TC or Ys? I assume Lukas is Sceleria.
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>>169537201
Figures.
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Game: InVinoVeritas
Turn number 1
Next turn due: 15:52 GMT on Tuesday February 28th

Agartha 2h file received
Atlantis Waiting for 2h file
Man 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ragha 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Bogarus 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Xibalba Waiting for 2h file

this is a turn 1 bully. Do your turns fgts
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>>169501462
t. Tir na n'og
>>
Post ichtyids.
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Ulm please turn your turn.
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Let it be known to all the Agartha in Fourth Turning is a shitheel who would rather pick on poor oni who only want to fight the bat menace than trying to remove bats himself.
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>>169537201
>>169538245
Why don't you guys just all gang up on him and force him to go AI? That's no way to live.
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>>169541835
>>169501462

t. malakal playing mind tricks
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>>169548117
That would only make things worse, desu.
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>>169540775

>join game thinking we'll have a relatively quick turn hosting since there's not many of us
>mfw /domg/niggers are slower than smoke off dogshit as usual
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>>169552460
There's always that one guy who takes forever to do turns that makes every game slow. Can't blame the group, only individuals.
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>>169552460
Sorry dude, am both australian and an asshole.
Anyway I did my turn. Xibalbats are probably gonna take ages now though.
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>>169514651
Don't worry anon, hurlers are good in CoE. But even there olms are better.
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>>169556821
Some of you guys are cool. Don't come to the ocean next month.
>>
hi
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>>169563234
fuck off
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>>169515429
I think you'll find that in practice you can't get enough of them to matter anyway, since you won't be able to afford good scales.
>>
So, what's the opinion on a game with summod, magic enhanced, the more gems and more cap gem mods, with 75% site frequency, easy research, and 50% income?
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>>169567326
What's the point of summod if you have magic enhanced that throws any semblance of balance out the window?
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>>169564401
Same problem as the A8B8 meme strat, only less so because your sacreds worth is measured by the amount of damage they absorb and relflect and not the amount they dish out.
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>>169567930
The game was intended for EA, so it'd be nice not to need to ban Xibalba.

And summod adds quite a few nice things for other nations. It also makes Therados playable again.
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>>169538245
The same is happening to Teaching_feeling.

Rip.
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>>169515429
EA Agartha's melee sacreds are also pretty bad, desu.

I went with a N9 bless for them once and seriously regretted it. You need to fix so many problems to make them even usable, and I don't think there's any way to make them good.
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>>169568992
Also, if you're going to go with them anyway I'd say nature/fire would be a better bless, so you can at least hit shit.
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>>169568992
Or, you could take an awake, grab a bunch of land, and use their good - but not sacred - summons.

And use your holy points for the actually useful Olms.
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>>169569446
This is much better. EA Agartha can expand okay, but why have fine expansion when you can take an awake and have great expansion?
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>>169569604
EA Agartha's expansion is actually pretty mediocre unless they luck out on low indie amount provinces.

It doesn't matter if it's 10 heavy infantry or 10 cataphracts though - but 60+ of anything can cause enormous issues.
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>>169569446
I don't understand how you got the impression I was recommending a bless.

I agree with everything in your post except the part about Olms.
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>>169570620
Oh I didn't seriously think you were, was just giving an aside of advice.

And the Olms are actually useful early, before you can convert all your gold into mages. Though maybe this is because I'm used to playing an Agartha on maps with actual caves so I can just use cave grubs early on as a serviceable frontline (or at least better than Pale Ones).
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WAKE ME UP
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>>169572294

>turn 1 stales

ah yes, the most delicious of stales
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>>169572294
>turn 1
>xibalba still not removed
You were asking for it
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>>169573856
Those are both utterly retarded
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>>169573856
>>169574570

The priest kinda looks like "I got this shit in events and have nowhere useful to use it". The assassin is definitely utterly retarded though, yes.
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>>169577518
>girdle of might
>being a bad item
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>>169577518
The mirror is quite useful, there's no reason to just throw it away.

You could probably do without the girdle and boots too, and they're useful elsewhere.

>>169577886
In an assassination which is going to be over in a round or two, it isn't very useful.
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>>169577886
>+damage on a single attack
>reinvigoration when you have 10 prot
This priest will literally die to 10 militia.
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>>169577886

It's Ulm. That can be made up in one turn for one gem.
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>>169578062
Its a bad item for a priest or for that thug, but I'm arguing that this guy said the items on the priest are on him because they are bad items. Axe of sharpness is, true. But there is no reason to call Girdle "a item you have nowhere useful to use it".
>>
M O V I N G
G O A L P O S T S

the general
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>>169578082
He wasn't fighting 10 militia, he was fighting a single massively overgeared assassin.

All he needed was one solid hit.

>>169578245
Ah, I thought you were saying it was fine for this purpose.
>>
Does Returning in an assassination battle kill you, like retreating? Or is it a special exception?
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>>169580284
HAHAHAHA

Stop embarassing yourself, Sy.
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>>169580754
IT'S NOT MY FAULT YOU GUYS AREN'T GIVING ME TURNS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169580587
What point would there be to the spell if it just killed you?
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>>169580587
It works, but the mage won't cast it on the defensive and if you have an assassin set to cast Returning then, well, you have special insight that I lack.
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>>169580987
An hero
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>>169580284
>vampy build
>vampy card art
>macho vampire bara avatar

But why.
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>>169582032
He needs his daughteru.
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TURN 1
U
R
N
1
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>>169582146
Just set him AI.
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>>169582146
If you dont want to wait for the turns, go play blitz intead you fucking neet.
PBEM are for people who dont have time to waste several hours a day to play
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>>169582524
>If you dont want to wait for the turns, go play blitz intead you fucking neet.
Blizu games have to restrictive time limits.
>PBEM are for people who dont have time to waste several hours a day to play
>turn 1
>hours
>>
>>169582676
>I have never worked in my life
People arent at their PC 24h/day
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>>169582952
I work parttime and go to university.
>People arent at their PC 24h/day
You can do your first turn from your smartphone.
>>
>>169583001
Not xibalba player, but I do labour work 60+ hours per week. I dont even get time to pee, and you think I would be allowed to play on my phone?
>>
>>169583186
There's 168 hours in a week nigger. More to the point fuckers shouldnt join games if they arent even going to do the first turn.
>>
>>169583316
>what is time to eat
>what is time to sleep
>what is time to social activity

Are you this fucking dense? He still have 24 hours to put his turn, cant you wait without sperging?
>>
>>169583506
>what is time to social activity

Something someone in /domg/ probably doesn't have to worry about?
>>
normies get out reeeeeeee
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>>169583506
>sleep 8 hours a day 56 hours
>work 60 hours a week
>take 2 hours a day 14 hours
Thats still 38 hours left over and the first turn takes literally 2 minutes.
>>
>>169583718
BUT HE COULD BE AT WORK AT THIS FUCKING MOMENT AND WILL BE AVAILIBLE LATER, HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING LIKE THAT
>>
>>169583718
>take 2 hours a day to eat
I meant to say.
>>
>>169583794
Nigger had 24 hours to do the turn.
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>>169583905
And still have 24 more. You can spout after he stall, no reason to do it earlier
>>
MA GAME
FUCKING
WHEN
?
>>
>>169525454
it looks like it will die to any 10+ human troops with decent morale; slashing damage is probably best.
>>
>>169584274
I would say 30 at least. 5 fear is no joke in routing random chaff.
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>>169554263
>There's always that one guy who takes forever to do turns that makes every game slow

Why dont they make their own game then?

"Slow Bastards only - 48hr turns"

At least everyone else would know what they're getting into.
>>
>>169584223
host one, baby.
>>
>>169584726
>normal game
>24h
>8 hours pass
>neets start crying and screeching on the thread
At least everyone else would know what they're getting into
>>
>>169584726
Why don't you make your own?
"Neets only - 2hr turns"
At least you would stop crying in the thread
>>
>>169584895
i am pretty sure someone already tried that.

i think people would enjoy if llama had an option to automatically process turns if exactly one guy has yet to upload and over 1/2 of the turn timer has expired.
>>
>>169584880
>>169584895

I'm not the guy that's whining like a little bitch, I'm just genuinely curious why people who know they're short on time don't host their own games and make it known in advance?

Seems to me like it would solve a lot of frustration, players who no-life it and play 24/7 can still join up knowing that it will take some time between turns, and still join a few extra games at the same time to get their play-time in.
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>>169585229
>if llama had an option to automatically process turns if exactly one guy has yet to upload and over 1/2 of the turn timer has expired.

Thats retarded. Why have a turn timer set to an arbitrary limit if you're only going to allow half the time anyway?
>>
God damnit, why did no-one tell me about CTRL+S when scripting before?
>>
>Communion Master
>Goes off script.
>Blink!
>Communion Slaves everywhere.

Why does this happen?
>>
>>169585645

Because you should know full well that ? shows you the hotkeys for whatever screen you're on.
>>
Game: DontStaleDesuSenpai2
Turn number 21
Next turn due: 15:56 GMT on Monday February 27th

Abysia 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
Ulm >>>>>>>>>Waiting for 2h file
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>>169583506
>needing 47 hours for first turn
>will continue by taking 23 hours for his next turns and doing no double turns
We're in for a fun game :^)
>>
>>169585326
Because he has enough time, he has 24h to do the fucking turns.
>>
https://soundcloud.com/boksi-1/elephants-trampling-blood-slaves-forever
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>>169590552
Why didn't we win a single divegrass tourney in years. Step up yer gaem son.
>>
>>169587101
Alliance to remove bat if they are not removed? Would improve our pace a lot.
>>
So what's the latest in thought re TNN and Eriu for Summod?

The 'issues' I see on the github aren't listed as part of the actual changelog, which tells me that they remain unchanged. Sum1 unsure on what to do with them, or just not working on it much?
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>>169592909
Sum1 is a lazy bitch ass nigger.
>>
>>169585728
Communion slaves minic the effects of the communnion master.
>>
>>169587101
>24 hours for turn
>WHY DONT HE MAKE THEM FASTER, FUCKING NORMIE REEEEEE
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>Draw a flail
>Call it a morning star
Why is this allowed?
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>>169594026
I'm sorry bats, but seeing as you didn't take a double turn we will be removing you now.
>>
>>169594459
>implying you werent going to do it anyway
>>
Reminder that there's a fast-paced game (16h turn timer) recruiting right now.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=NotAnotherLukasGame
>>
>>169594510
In my last my faggot co-players didn't. Good to see bats are making sure it will work out this time.
>>
>>169594601
If you make it MA or OneAge I'm in
>>
>>169594853
I won't.

Also, OneAge doesn't work on Llama, FYI.
>>
Did CoE4 ever add more game settings?

Like resource gain modifiers, and whatnot? All the basic stuff Doms4 has?

Or would one still have to .exe edit to get 2x resources?
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>>169595625
>one still have to .exe edit to get 2x resources?
What the fuck illwinter
>>
Air elemental launch detected
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Hungry dragons with swallowing attacks when?
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>>169600910
Get yourself a real fetish.
>>
>>169601558
Vore is disgusting.
Cute dragons eating cute critters is cute.
>>
>>169600910
More like
>Ainu nation when
>>
Anyone in the Warhammer game?
>>
>>169602580
Which one?
>>
>>169602580
Bretonnia wont install for us ;_;
>>
There are a few? Any, I guess. What are they called?
>>
>>169602580

How differently does the Warhamer mod play to vanilla/summod Dominions? Seems like Forts cost a ton and Research is harder to come by?
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>>169603443
Well its the same game with different units.
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>>169538245
w e w
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Game: EA_newbaria
Turn number 18
Next turn due: 21:12 GMT on Monday February 27th

Ermor 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
>Tir na n'Og Waiting for 2h file
Xibalba 2h file received

Last updated at 18:30 GMT on Monday February 27th
Current time: 18:31 GMT
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Africa and Abysia be like, we're cool with bats, he won't attack us, we're friends.

How's that working out for you guys?
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>>169608180
Agartha too would rather attack Yomi, who is actively fighting bats, rather than trying to stop the strongest nation in the game.
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Jesus, what did I ever do to all of you? Ulm is still bigger than me and has another players cap in his hand. I'm barely beating Scelaria who attacked me.
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>>169594085
>morning star

Lloyd has a pair of videos on the issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-y6oirEsZA
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>>169612416
Maybe they all flipped a coin to decide which of the 2 fuckhuge dudes to attack first?
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>>169605749
Sorry mate I played my turn but forgot to send it. Probably won't happen again.
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tell me more about this warhammer game going on
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>>169617578

It's fun, but not really balanced.
Khorne was basically unstoppable for a time, but I guess he's mostly contained now.
Skaven were at one point losing ground, but I think they've reversed things.
Thank god lizards went AI early.
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>>169621172
Whose most stupid OP between Sandeth, Khorne, and Skaven?
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>>169621172
What's the game name? I'd like to download the mod.
Are you in it? If so, who are you playing and how are they?
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I'v never played C'tis and I'm gonna play them next game. Any tips?
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>>169624689
Sandeth, of course.
RECRUITABLE IMMORTALS
REFORM
EVERYTHING IS IMMORTAL
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>>169605749
>aby went AI
why tho
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>>169627412
Expanded to 3 provinces by turn 8
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>>169627532
EA abysia? How?
You just recruit burning ones and let them unscripted, they kill everything.

You literally don't even need a bless or blessing them!
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>>169627703
RNG
N
G

Not even kidding, I was gonna do Soul Contracts, but every expansion party I sent out died immediately because of bad dicerolls. It was an unsalvageable position so i ditched it
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>>169625091
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Memes_for_the_Meme_throne


I'm the Ogres.
Everything is expensive as shit even with chaos rec, but you've got B2H1 mages you can recruit without a fort and some pretty good blood summons.
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>>169628021
>>169627703
Marv here, I also got some stronkish indies and very bad RNG and got cucked in expansion phase.
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>>169628341
Yeah, like in every single test game I ran it was 12-14 provinces year 1 which was fine for me because that meant I could start an early war with devils, but that never materialised obviously
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>>169628301

How did you expand as ogres? Did you take a bless?
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>>169626307
what age?
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>>169628021
>RNG
>N
>G
Nigger Abysia's starting army can blind expand into like 40 heavy cav and win. What sort of haunted ass dice are you rolling?
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>>169625091
I am the tomb kings in that. Tomb kings would be crazy as fuck if they had time to research and summon shit but they need a long time to get off the ground since you need to research to summon their mages unlike ermor. Also they cant go UW like Ermor.
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>>169629803
I don't fucking know. All I know is that my dudes would kill like maybe 10 indies before they took too many losses and routed
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>>169628930
Yes.
The only recruitable sacred is really overpriced (95g, 80 with chaos 3 scales) but it expands well.
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>>169630304
What were you even fighting? Those 3 random air mage cunts?
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>>169630730
There were those, dark vines and something like 80 barbarians IIRC. Shit was unfair
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>>169630852
Man fuck those mages, At least you can see the other shit coming.
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>>169630852
Dark vines are hilariously easy to take out. Or, what is hold and attack, from the very back.

As Sy's video shows, the blood mages will buff themselves with everything they can - including sabbath slave.

You should have swapped to salamanders immediately for the others. Still would have sucked and left you weak, but not literally out of the game.
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>>169626307

It Depends.

MA, you do not give a shit about bless, go full scales.

LA, take the fucking Regen bless. Either B9 or Ex is good.
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I know with regards to Ulm, everyone talks about MA, but I have an EA blitz game with friends coming up, and was thinking of giving the EA version of them a try.

How do they stack up?

I was thinking of going with a semi-rainbow Forge Lord, O3, P1, M1, D1, rushing Const 2, then alteration for Legions of Steel and then back over to Evocation/Conj.

The magic diversity of its Shamans and Master Smiths are great, and with their forge bonuses and site searching, it seems really easy to get them up and going quickly, with well protected mages and commanders going into the early mid game.

Any tips?
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Game: EA_newbaria
Turn number 20
Next turn due: 22:03 GMT on Tuesday February 28th

Ermor Waiting for 2h file
Helheim Waiting for 2h file
Marverni 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
>Xibalba 2h file received

What Xibalba put in a turn before another nation? Is this bizarro world?
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>>169613672
Oh fuck it's here as well

Fuck you fuck you fuck you
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>>169633060
This is why telling noobs "lol just blindly throw your troops into literally everything" is obviously bad advice. It works fine for 90+% of the cases but that's not really good enough.
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>>169621172
Sylvania and Dwarves allied to kill Khorne, and Dwarves basically killed themselves in the process of creating the opportunity.

Pretty thematic.
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>>169624689
It depends.

In a rush scenario, Khorne cannot be beaten.

Long term? Sandeth. Give them a chance to establish their dominion and you cannot remove them.
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>>169635220
That's the setting we ought to be playing in. Why are there RP games for vanilla?
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>>169635309
Would Khorne be able to deal with their commanders constantly being assassinated by glamor immortal horde of skeleton/elemental summoning assassins?

Like, the key issue with Sandeth is they don't fight fair at all.
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>>169635309
Does it bother anyone else that Sandeth's units all have a human skin tone? Like it would be way better if they had a slightly more sandy colour.
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>>169624689
You forgot MA Neritia with their recruitable RoS casters.
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>>169637234
Berytos, you said?
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>>169636456
Alex's nations are mostly nationgen with severe alterations, though he'll deny it if you ask.

I mean, it's fair enough, there's no way he'd be as insanely prolific if he didn't use it as an aid. Dunno why he's ashamed of it.
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>>169636405
Yes

The Khorne commanders are fucking bullshit. They kill Tartarians with hilarious ease.
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>>169637234
You mean like the highly OP nation of LA Man?
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>>169638078
But it would be a really easy change to make. It'd take like 5 minutes, just copy the tone from the sand god thing and recolor a handful of face pixels.
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RIP Llamaserver.

Long live the llamabeast.
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Which are the least played nations, or the underdogs at least?
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>>169639202
Oceania.
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>>169639271

Probably because it's a budget Pangea isn't it?
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>>169637550
>>169638297
Yes, but with innate protection to survive it.
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>>169639464
They are apparently the worst nation in the game. Even in the games story they were about to be wiped out by Atlantis and only survived because the ilithids crash landing really fucked Atlantis up.
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>>169640117

What makes them so bad? Is it because they basically cannot recruit inland?
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>>169640065
Oh, okay. So like Midgard. Or MA Ulm. Those OP nations which totally warp the whole game around them just by existing.
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>SkeletonWar failed to host

ALL THAT SCRIPTING

FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>169638909
>>169642404
Is something wrong with llama?
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>>169642404
Thank fuck my big important battles happened last turn, and not this turn.
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>>169640321
Bad units
Bad mages with bad paths
Bad national spells (okay, this is a lie, they don't have any national spells).

At least with other bad nations like EA Abysia, EA Hinnom, and MA Machaka there's at least *some* good and redeemable part of the nation to work with. Oceania doesn't even have that.
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Post cute skellies.
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Post cute fish.
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>>169648069
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>>169573856

'Some priests may require extra pay to misgiving their misgivings.'

I think whoever wrote that mean 'calm'.
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Irl Luck 3: llama breaks the day I lose my computer charger. But CC isn't on llama, so here's my notice of absence for tonight. Do what needs to be done.
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>>169653227
llama is working right now.
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>>169610679
This is either Aran or s1w posting. They are the 4th and 3rd strongest nations respectively
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>>169654880
I'd honestly put bats first (because fucking duh) sum1won's Atlantis 2nd (actual province leader, player) Vanheim 3rd (basically the same reason as Atlantis, but less so).

And then Aran should be 4th but its also Aran so its not like he's going to win.
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>>169643605

EA Hinnom has the advantage of being thematically awesome.
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>>169655106
> but its also Aran so its not like he's going to win.
what does this mean?

t. not Aran
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=NotAnotherLukasGame

EA, 6 players, Grigionia, 16h turn timer.
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>>169658615
Good fucking luck filling that
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>>169658615
Why not just... play a blitz
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>>169658842
Well, there's a bunch of nerds complaining about someone not taking their turn within 12 hours earlier in the thread. You'd think they want turns shorter than 24-28h.
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>>169659039
guess what.
Bats are last, again, and this time there are only 9hrs left.
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>>169634758
Legions of Steel is Construction, unless you meant Marble Warriors or something.
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>>169659039

My guess is that you are assuming there are a lot more of these people than actually exist, and it's not just 1-2 autists spamming thread constantly.
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>>169659414
>1-2 autists
That's about as much as we need.
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>>169659414
Well yes, as we know from how many people are in Lukas games, people prefer constant 24-48 hour extension after extension.
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>>169661723
What are you supposed to do, just go AI when you realize you're in a game with a badmin and hand him the win?
That's the downside of anonymous games.
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>>169662016
You can tell in almost every case when Lukas starts a game. He uses anime pictures, following some theme when posting links to the game.
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>>169662363
NoBully and Natgen weren't always Lukas games.
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>>169662363
That's false, LightAle's admin wasn't Lukas and that game follows your description of "a Lukas game".
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>>169662847
Wait, really? I was sure that was Lukas
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Teaching_Feeling, turn number 38


15:46 GMT on Sunday February 26th Hosting delayed by 5 hours.
03:49 GMT on Monday February 27th Hosting delayed by 24 hours.
03:45 GMT on Tuesday February 28th Hosting delayed by 12 hours.

All of them only for himself.
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>>169663758
>>169662016
It isn't a loss if you're walking away from a rigged game.
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>>169663931
Her thumb is messing me up
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>>169663931
Why is Teaching rigged? The team with a veteran and a intermediate guy playing 2 blood nations is 90% removed.
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>>169664210
He means it's rigged not to finish obviously.
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>>169659316
LoS is 3E, there's some 2E buff in alteration that's almost the same.
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>>169667228
>there's some 2E buff in alteration that's almost the same
I assure you that there is not. LoS is a unique effect
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>>169667371
Wait, does Legions of Steel and the other prot+ buffs stack?

I'm under the impression that Stoneskin/Ironskin/Barkskin/Protection do not stack. Does work with them though?

It's really hard to test this stuff as a newbie.
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>>169667580
Legions of Steel increases the protection of armor and shields. It stacks fully with the existing armor, making it great on heavy infantry. Other prot buffs either raise natural prot to a certain value or increase it by a certain amount (10/+1, 15/+2, 20/+3) whichever is higher. Natural prot and armor prot have diminishing returns when stacked.

This is in the manual.
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>>169634758
Warrior Maidens are your best troops, though you may want to use other troops at times. Warrior Maidens are especially amazing when buffed, so Strength of Giants is a great early pick up for them.

I wouldn't go for evocation early - I'd go for alteration to meld/destruction enemy troops, conjuration for the earth boost, and enchantment for strength of giants. A combination of those should let your troops kill almost anything. Alt 5 additionally gets you Maws, which will let you deal insane AoE damage, much more than evocation is likely to get you.

Once you have those, you can pick up evocation to give your weaker mages something productive to do in combat.

I'm not sure what to take for a pretender, but Forge Lord is a very bad choice. Go for either Svartalf Mastersmith (has a nice secondshape) or Eldest Dwarf (cheap) and get a proper rainbow, or pick a titan which you don't need to buy extra paths for.

Hopefully your blitz didn't already start, and you can actually use this advice.
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Since trying to operate the inspector from my mobile phone makes me want to kill myself:
How does Bogarus survive an early war?
Rush Stellar cascaded? Minor and later major air ele spam?
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>>169674794
Druzhina and t-strike coms
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>>169675913
>Druzhina
Aren't they expensive cav that'll die to crossbows? What am I missing?
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>>169674794
As well as what the other guy said, consider lightning bolt if it's a super early rush. It's a decent way to blast elite troops, and the fatigue gain may leave them weak enough for your own troops (hopefully the cavalry) to finish off.

>>169675913
Directly casting thunderstrike is an option too. Costs a lot of gems, but if you're low on mages it can put out a ton of firepower really fast.
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Middle of night, nobody here, great time to host a game

Do you like stealth? Do you like illusions? Are you a piece of shit? If you answered YES I AM A SCUMBAG ELF PLAYER! to all of these questions then this is the perfect game for you!

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ElfingAround
Age:MA
Settings:It Depends
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>>169677168
Heavy cavalry deal with elite melee threats much better than Bogarus' shitty infantry.

Most rushes are done with melee sacreds, xbow hordes are likely to come well after you get magic online.
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>>169677481
>all of Ermor's skeleton hordes now have glamour
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>>169677481
I'm interested, but that's way too many players for my taste.

And I really don't want to fight ermor in yet another game.
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>>169675913
>>169677173
Keyword early.
I'll be mostly having masters of names and maybe a couple of astrapelagist by then.

Or would you forgo masters of names with their research bonus, just to be prepared for war?
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>>169678349
>Or would you forgo masters of names with their research bonus, just to be prepared for war?
Absolutely
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>>169677481
Ban Ermor and I'll join.
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>>169678349
As Bogarus, you absolutely need to be prepared for an earlygame war.

Your mid and late game is good, so nations focused around earlygame will really want to eat you while you're weakest.

You could probably make something work with masters of names, but astrapelagists will do much better.
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>>169678429
>>169679452
So you don't recruit masters of names until you are confident un you mobilizeable mage support?
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>>169679591
I'd strongly consider not recruiting them at all, desu.

The research is nice, but it's not quite as amazing as it looks when you take into account cost.

Occultists are actually slightly cheaper (assuming neutral magic) in RP for your gold, and I'd consider them more useful.
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>>169679843
155/17RP vs 100/11RP, doesn't look bad at all.
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>>169680251
155/17 comes to 9.12 gold/RP, 100/11 comes to 9.09 gold/RP. Basically the same at neutral magic - it'll be actually significant if you have magic scales.

The difference in gold per RP is negligible, but I think Occultists are also more useful so which to pick is an obvious choice.
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>>169680794
What for? Bloodhunting? Communion Slaves? Masters for earth buffs/Magma Erruption?

Masters of Names can be nice for Stellar Cascades spam, which you'll get earlier with them.
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>>169680912
Occultists can do Stellar Cascades too.

I'd be planning to do earlygame combat and a good chunk of midgame combat with primarily Astrapelagists so I'd easily be at LotNS before I'd be fielding Occultists.

Things Occultists could do that masters of names can't include: bloodhunting, Nether Bolt/Darts, small skellyspam communions, shadowblast communions, and probably a few other things I'm forgetting.
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>>169681407
I might just go with that. Those 55g add up and will probably let me get up more forts more quickly.
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>>169677481
What exactly does Elves Everywhere do? I put it in the mod inspector, but a cursory look seems like it set every unit in the game to Stealth +0, making things that were already stealthy way easier to find if anyone bothers to patrol, might make 15 PD actually worthwhile sometimes, and makes scouts pretty much automatically discovered in capitals.

I didn't see glamour either, but apparently it adds that to some things? Can I get a more thorough rundown?
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>>169684204
Everything is stealthy 65 and glamor, from what I saw in the short time I spent ingame.

There might be more subtle changes, if so I didn't notice them.
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>>169684597
So basically everyone's running blind not knowing what's where?
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>>169654880
Its actually Yomi posting because I am super salty about being stabbed in the back by one eyed naked retards while I try largely unsuccessfully to fight the motherfucking bats.
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>>169685172
Pretty much.
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>03:49 GMT on Monday February 27th >Hosting delayed by 24 hours.
>03:45 GMT on Tuesday February 28th
>Hosting delayed by 12 hours.

fucking lukas
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>>169686153
Have you tried the super secret Yomi strat of git GUD scrub
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Yo can we set Therodos AI? The player is vegetative
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>>169686485
I'm only one man anon, there is a limit to what I can do.
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Aside from itsMu, NuclearMonkee and Maerland (who has an unwatchable monotone voice - sorry man) is there anyone else on Youtube who plays Dominions 4 with some competency?
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>>169687357
fuck you, Maerland voice is great
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>>169687357
Sy!
He is also a qt.
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>>169687509
Hi Maerland.
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>>169687656
>implyign
He's propably ded now
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>>169687654
Hi Sy.
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Me and a few buddies are going to be playing a private game of Dom 4 this weekend, we're all fairly new to this game. Nation selection was randomly rolled for as was age, we rolled for it all yesterday so we've the rest of the week to figure out how to play our shit.

The era is going to Late, and I've got assigned Gath, which I was fairly happy about, they're supposed to be decent right?

However, I've fuck all idea how to play a blood nation, literally I've only done it once before and found it to be quite a hefty bit of micromanagement, as well as being somewhat irritating when a load of flyers come along and start stabbing your sacrificial lambs in the face in battle.

How do you deal with this shit efficiently?
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>>169688934
Completely unrelated, but apparently you can dress your kids up as Kohen Gadol for shits and giggles on Halloween, pic related.
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>>169688934
>when a load of flyers come along and start stabbing your sacrificial lambs in the face in battle.

They attack rearmost unit most likely when that happens. Bait my man, bait.
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>>169689263
So, right at the back I should keep a single thugged up commander and some ass kicking bodyguards, and keep my mages further forward?
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>>169688934
Just b yourself bro.
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>>169687715
He joined clash.
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Can Irminsul wind ride?
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>>169667952
That is written misleadingly. Those buffs either increase prot to a certain amount (10, 15, 20) or if they already have that certain number (10,15,20) or higher the buff only gives +1, +2, +3 prot. So in essence they all buff, but with diminishing returns. It's always better to use the best buff and almost always better to script something else other than for that +3prot bonus on top of 20. Of course you can still cast them if you don't have anything better to do. Also get the debug mod, it's easier to test things out.
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>>169691096
No, only teleport. Both options are retarded because of their outrageous path cost.
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>>169689402
you should keep a large pool of cheap HP in the back anyways to bait any long range evos with poor prec.
But several small groups of elites in the back lines can help to break up an attack rear fliers, but also having a large number of troops helps to because fliers are weird about their attack rear commands unless something has changed recently
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How good are lumber constructs? I m going into early war (turn 20) so there is that.
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>>169693831
Very useless. Crushers are better
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>>169693831
Judge for yourself.
Vine Ogres beat them in every single way, are cheaper and you get two of them (3 with Ivy Crowns I think).

So if you want to sommon something, get those instead.
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>>169693831
>>169694695
Although if Construction is your only path, you're fucked.
It's one of the reasons why I don't ever pick construction early.
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>>169694695
Lumber constructs are arguably better if you are roleplaying a Pinocchio nation.
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>>169694695
The only benefit I see is lifeless which allows to evade some spells, but otherwise for normal usage as chaff they suck. It's definitely better to use those gems on something else.
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>>169694695
I got a free lumber construct commander once which was neat.
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>>169695307
>The only benefit I see is lifeless which allows to evade some spells
Aren't those the kind of spells you're more worried about with thugs and SCs?
Vine Ogres are very expendable after all and die to regular infantry too. You actually want them to die instead of your more expensive units, which their high hp density helps them to achieve.
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>>169695493
maybe some untapped innovation? mindless lumber construct SC. Yeah who am I kidding
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>tfw no non-UW cultist nation
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>>169698263
>666th post with 66th image

Devilish.
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>>169700931
Reminder that if they stale again (or, if I catch it, when they're about to stale), they are set AI
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>>169701262
Be careful you don't go AI yourself after you see this turn :^)
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>>169687357

>see NuclearMonkee recommended on /domg/
>it's all meme games
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Kichikuo_Domg hosted today, for the first time since January (or was it December? not sure). And got rolled back because our favorite admin didn't send his turn.
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>>169704427
That game is just AI and the host, right?
R-right? You're not this starved for games are you?
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>>169700931
My bad, I was temporarily dyslexic and read the due time as on the 41st minute of the hour instead of 14. I'm pretty much dead/irrelevant anyway but I'd still like to attempt to meme
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>>169704776
I'm actually super excited to finally get a turn. I'm sad that my ghost-apocalpyse turn didn't stick though. My phoenix pretender hit 900+ kills on the game that turn. Made me feel validated for taking him as a suicide bomber
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Game: EA_newbaria
Turn number 21
Next turn due: 07:52 GMT on Wednesday March 1st

>Ermor Waiting for 2h file
Helheim 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

Guys I know we all want to attack Xibalba but this Ermor guy has gone too far.
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>>169694695
Why are those Lumber constructs not susceptible to fire?
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>>169705509
>EA_newbaria
>Next turn due: 07:52 GMT on Wednesday March 1st

Give me time man, god damn ... stop being autistic, theres still like 14 hrs of the turn left.
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>>169706264
Why are those Lumber Constructs nearly 3 times as old compared to Vine Ogres who went asleep before EA?
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>>169706481

I'm on to you.
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>>169706560
Made out of old as fuck trees.
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>>169701494
Jokes on you; I'm not playing in it
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boy howdy time for another episode of "xibalba nearly stales"
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>>169705509
>past turn 5
>xibalba hasn't been removed
pls
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>>169705292
By all means.
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>>169707163
Are we talking about IVV?
Because that asshole still hasn't taken a double turn and continues to run the clock to the last second.
>>
Speaking of stales -

Sceli's staled in AbsoluteMAdMAn. He's got almost nine hours to do his turn before he gets set AI.
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>>169705509
And I'm sick and tired of his turnbullying all the time when he's not the one we're waiting for. I'm not going to say who I am but I'm removing Ermor first before I died irl waiting for his turns.
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>>169706739
Well fuck you too.
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I'm going to need some Dominions-ified versions of this with the way my games are going.
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>>169705457
Holy shit. I don't think I've been in that since, what, October?
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>>169715976
And now your AI is harassing me REEEEEE
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>>169712743
You (barely) beat a bunch of spear chuckers with your superior technology?
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How are LA Arco's Cerulean Guard? Underwhelming?
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>>169717184
Well, I was doing that before, but I'm glad not much has changed.
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>>169721121
WRONG
I'm Patala!
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>>169689085
what the fuck am I looking at?
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Sceli, you have a little over 4 hours before you get replaced or set AI.
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>>169724102
>when the admin is the turnbully

Absolutely based
>>
2ded2thred.
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>>169365615
Proof that big cats are adequately named.
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>>169376632
Man, how is it that the fucking clown nation has some of the best and most in-line fluff of all modded nations? I am legitimately annoyed by this.
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>>169382995
Anon, in accordance with this Thread's theme, are you making sure to pronounce it as In Vino Veritas, as opposed to In Vino Veritas? This is important.
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>>169728883
I'm not sure what you mean. Please record yourself saying that and upload it to soundcloud to help us understand.
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>>169728883
As both creator of this thread and host of that game I have no clue what you are talking about.
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Isn't okofire the shitter nobody plays with? I kinda feel sorry for him
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>>169730176
He brought it on himself.
>>
Hey guys, just a heads up, I am taking another 72h.
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>>169731851
Forgot my real name.
>>
>>169731851
>not 720h
Obvious falseflag.
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Hello /domg/

We regret to inform you that Lukas has passed away after his heartbeat took a 72 hour delay. As he lay dying, he asked us to make this post and activate his bot, which will delay all of the games that he is in every day for 24 hour increments.

Thank you for your understanding.
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>>169658568
It means that diplomacy doesn't work late game, so I have to rely on my 2/10 strategy and 3/10 tactical ability.
>>169654880
>>169655106
I am definitely solidly in the top 10 at this point, but am closer to 7th place than 3rd or 4th imo.
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>>169731851
>>169732115
>>169735019
>>169735079
I laughting so hard right now, nice one.
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>>169732115
This doesn't even make sense somce I'm not the admin in any game. Fuck you.
>>
Sceleria has a sub lined up. I've extended the turn timer a bit, and if he doesn't get his turn done in the 3 hours that he would have left, I'll swap out the players.
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>>169735786
Good luck to the sub, Scelaria's in a pretty shit position.

At least the guy eating him is now getting attacked by basically everybody though.
>>
>>169736082
He knows it's a last stand.
>>
How do I make mages get closer to the enemy in order to cast lower range spells without immediately going off script?
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>>169736202
"Attack one turn"
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>>169736543
I'm pretty sure anything without Innate Spellcaster is immediately going off script once it enters melee.
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>>169737185
You shouldn't be. They have a 50% chance of not casting a spell, but if they're still on the script they will follow it the next time they get to cast a spell.
>>
>>169737185
Also anyway if your mage is going to get into melee with ONE movement then you are in less than 10 range and you can cast literally anything you wanted.
>>
>>169739540
If your mage has flight, it will be getting into melee with one movement, so I would suggest not using that idea on Xibalba or Caleum.
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>>169740664
Yes if you have infantry to surround the enemy, but it is risky indeed.
However he was asking for advice in
G E N E R A L
T E R M S
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Does anyone agree to a new EA game? All the games that I'm playing right now have stales and it looks like most of my games are dead. I'm willing to host if I see enough people interested.

Also who's admin of
babyrng
standard EA
fourth
give me their steam names so I can message them.
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>>169742287
Nicknight7 is the admin of fourth.

No clue on the others.
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>>169742287
I might be interested in a EA or MA game with normal settings and maybe 8-10 players.
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>>169742287
Someone just tried to make an EA game and there was essentially 0 interest. So you're unlikely to get many players.
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What about a memegame with magic enhanced/summod, 75% sites, the extra gem mods, easy research, and 50% income. For some REAL magic.
>>
>Skeleton Wars fails to host AGAIN


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169742713
fuck yeah magick
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>>169742287
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=DontStaleDesuSempai3

I want to keep carrying on the tradition of dontstale. Send in your pretenders and I'll gauge how many people are interested and adjust the map/settings as needed.
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>>169742475
What do you mean normal? You mean vanilla?
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>*unzips rain of stones*
>tfw got cucked by the inability to select which mage casts first
>the guy who was suposed to give protection to the niggers ended up after the RoS guy, so everyone died and I only casted one RoS instead of 3
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>>169743578
I'm fucking done.

I had some fun scripting that was going to go off and I was really looking forwards to seeing the results, but I've had to re-do half an hour of that shit twice now, I'm going AI.
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>>169744359
The man who was cucked to death
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>>169744373
>I'm going AI

That would require your turn to actually go through ya know.
>>
>>169744359
You can see the order in which your mages will cast. It's just the order, top to bottom, in which they appear in the scripting menu.
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>>169744801
pls be joking
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>>169744723
>endlessly scripting for ermor
>cant play turns
>cant even go AI
Is this what hell looks like?
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>>169744359

You dozy fuck. The cast order is always identical to the order they're in when scripting the army.
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>>169744359
You have an inability to select, but not an inability to know.
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>>169744857
I'm not joking. Everyone goes in order of unit Id.
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>>169744857
nope, that's how it works.
enjoy.
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>>169744898
>>169744801
>>169744949
>>169744951

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Atleast this is a noob game
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>
>>169744857
100% true.
>>
Which would you rather have, an ability to change the order your mages cast in? Or the ability to script a final "repeat this spell for the rest of the combat" to stop mages from going off-script.
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>>169744723
Oh, right

I guess I'm in hell, then.
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>>169745157
Yes. I want both of these things.
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>>169745157
A decent game developer making the game. Or at least someone who knows what they are doing.
>can't even make a fucking decent message editor
>>
>>169745241
But you can only have 1.

Your enemies shall have the other.
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>>169745478
Oh, then casting order. Most people will script the wrong spell, and I can take advantage of this once I've scouted them.
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>>169745381
Hey now, the message editor is very thematic for this game. It attempts to accurately depict how infuriating parchment and quills would have been to use.
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>>169745640
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>>169744872
You forgot to add that every further turn involves an ever increasing amount of skeletons.
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>>169745779
mbg is that you
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>>169745816
And death gems, which you cannot put to any use because nobody can cast anything
>>
>>169745381

>tfw no log of what messages have been sent

I'm pretty sure I've accidentally betrayed thousands.
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>>169746190
>not having dusk elder summoning on repeat
>>
fuck this shit
>>
NEW THREAD
>>169746573
>>169746573
>>169746573

Considered a Falco reference, but nobody would have gotten it.
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>>169721121
Yea I did a pretty decent job of wiping out your cap, been ignoring the stragglers.

Still can't get over how bad you wrecked my shit with foul vapors. Literally the first time my noob ass encountered that spell
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>>169745157
Scripting all day, because while repeat spell would be great there's still those situations where your mage off script might have accidentally picked a better spell for a weird situation
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