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New summoning mechanic: Link Summon
Explanation: https://ygorganization.com/memberdrawing6/

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
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>Manual Card Updates (place inside the expansions folder): https://github.com/Ygoproco/Live2017

Useful Links:
>Current Official Rulebook, last updated 6/27/15:
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf

>Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

>Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/

>OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html

>TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists

>TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/

>Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/

>Official /ygo/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Tyranno's Rage (February 25th)
●OCG: Code of Duelist (April 15th)

●TCG: Raging Tempest (February 10th)
●TCG: Fusion Enforcers (February 24th)
●TCG: Duelist Saga (March 31st)
●TCG: Structure Decks Machine Reactor & Dinosmasher’s Fury (April 13th)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● READ THE OP
● Read carefully the cards
● Lurk and read the archives
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play
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Tits!
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I WANT A PAIZURI FROM ASUKA
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So about the new whole shift on ygo. How fucked are we?
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Will this work in the new age of yugioh?
>Have Level Eater in grave
>SS Gofu
>LE Gofu
>Sync for Sohaya
>LE Sohaya
>Sync Sohaya and LE for another Sohaya
>Sohaya's effect to SS Sohaya in grave
>LE one Sohaya
>Link for the Link 3 monster
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>>168630108
Yes.
But you should just SS Gofu + Token into Link-3
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Any kind anons know if there a link to watch Dark side of dimensions movie somewhere? All this talk of link summons and new rulings has me interested in yugioh again.
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Reposting because I genuinely don't know the answer to these:

1. Can you still Synchro ladder using the monster in the Extra Monster Zone?
2. Would it be theoretically possible to Summon another generic Link 1 monster using a Link 1 in the Extra Monster Zone?
3. Does the Extra Deck Summon restriction affect Pendulums that are already face-up in the Extra Deck?
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>>168630193
That's assuming we can use tokens for links, but I doubt we'll be able to.
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>>168630306
Since we can use token to sync, there should be no problem.
Summoning mechanic isn't a cost.
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>>168630193
No you fuck the monsters used for link summons must be sent FROM THE FIELD TO THE GRAVEYARD

IE NO PENDULUM LINKING AND NO FUCKING TOKENS
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>>168630479
You're right, but it seems extremely broken if tokens can be used to Link.
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>Be away from YGO for about 7 years
>Get back into in, figure out the new rules
>start winning matches regularly on YGOPro
>mfw Whole Game gets reworked
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>>168630080
Depends on if people are willing to adapt. I actually like seeing a response from the playerbase. It means for once this is actually a big change.
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>>168630598
Just like Synchro summon must be sent FROM THE FIELD TO THE GRAVEYARD.
But no, you can use Pendulum and token.
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>tfw all the decks you own are still playable
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>>168630752
This is plausible, although Konami might turn to us and say "You can't use for link summons, goy".
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>>168630752
If Konami isn't completely retarded, then you won't be able to use tokens for link summons.
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>>168631479
>>168631247
I hope Konami uses this reformatting of the roles to establish come consistency. Seems like that would also be consistent with attempting to bring in the casual and nostalgia crowd.
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>>168631479
>If Konami isn't completely retarded
They released Link.
I don't think you need more proof.
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>>168631924
But are they retarded enough to let you use tokens for link summons?
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>>168632093
They released Link.
The answer is obvious.
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>>168630631
Yeah is not like i wanted to play ygo or anything. Pssshh crazy talk
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>>168631479
>Konami crippling their new pet in any way
Keep dreaming
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So if you just have 2 EMZ by just having the average Link monster, i can just setup Panther Dancer and Drancia on Turn 1 and on the next turn, i'd just do my shit, not too bad.
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How the hell do I build Naturia? I'm just doing it for the hell of it
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Holy fuck these new rules. But I like it, love it when new zones are added.
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>>168635231
Whenever Code of the Duelist and the structure deck come out.
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There are two possible outcomes

People start ragequitting out of yugioh en masse, which will make konami panick and then kill Link summoning, apologize and make the format go back to 2016 again

or

Konami actually makes cards and more rules that do not outrightly kill character decks like HERO, Synchrons, Utopia and whatever shit yuya played or konami bans the shit that survived this nuke (i.e. Rituals, banning more monarch shit and killing Kozmo once it for all)
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Migrate?
>>168629858
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>>168630303
1 Uknown
2 Unlikely
3Most likely not since there's no metion of it this might get an exception with pendulum/ed monster combination.
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>>168629904
Ok niggas I've been out since Shadolls since the powercreep got too out of hand for me, these new rules seem really fucking great and will make the metagame slower. Is Konami going to fuck me or should I stick with this game?
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Its time to break out the GOAT decks fellas time to play the best format ever.
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>>168629904
MORE YGO RELATED TITS?

also who is the most based archetype leader?
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>>168645830
Are you going to enjoy needing to buy Link monsters and have them be mandatory in every single deck that uses the ED?
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>>168629904
>new game changes

nice, time to play rock stun!
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>>168647459
Triamids anon, they go perfectly with gorgonic guardian.
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>>168646772
After buying Mermails that became garbo after one format I'm sticking with Devpro
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GUESS WHO NIGGA
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u actually still can summon Cosmic or Quasar
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>>168648863
>tfw Ojama Knight is more than enough
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I want to lick Asuka's armpits.
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>>168649029
One turn tripple quasar synchro masturbation is dead though.
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>>168649029
>12 needed materials
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Can this bring back Dragon rulers or lavalval chain or bring tour guide back to 3?
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>>168650639
>dragon rulers
Double Dark Matter would take more than two cards, but it would still be degenerate as hell and the Rulers themselves can work with links very easily.
>lavalval chain
haha no
>tour guide to 3
It could go to three now fine. With links raping BA's corpse, it is definitely fine.
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Anyone here playing Igknights Berserker Soul now that everything is fucked?
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Why didn't they make the new cards red
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>>168649029

You can actually do it easily with Fish using 3 cards (but 1 is Soul Charge, so not that consistant)
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How do we break this card?
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>>168651959
cyberspace is blue
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MY SIDES
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>>168653591
I wonder if I should try selling mine.
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say goodbye to ur link monster :^)
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>>168653591

Are people forgetting about a Field Spell that does basically the same thing but searchable by Terraforming?
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>>168655048
And what's that?
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>>168655048
Neither will probably see much play, but Senet has the advantage of not forcing you to minus first to summon a Link monster before you actually make your plays.
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RIP
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>like the link summoning mechanic
>don't mind the pendulum mechanic
>but they had to fuck the entire game over with the extra deck mechanic just for the shekels
man am I glad I don't actually buy cards
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>>168651959
Why do people keep wanting this
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>>168655048
Senet Switch can move ED monsters out of Linked zones and open them up
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What the fuck did I miss? What changed?
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>>168657713
They obviously wanted to slow the game down anyway. Forcing people to use up their shekels is just a bonus.
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>>168657693

10/10
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cardians could shit link monsters
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There were so many ways to slow the game down by limiting Extra Deck summon while still introducing a new summon type and the choice they made was the worst possible.
In 1 year, Link spam archetypes will be a thing, and this change will be completely pointless.
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>>168657813
read the op
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>>168657813
Quasar turbo was kicked in the nuts, set on fire, shot in the face (twice), and then torn limb from limb. The torso of this carcass has been converted into a latrine for Link monsters.
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>>168657740
Because we already have blue cards?
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>>168657825
Don't worry, we'll get link fapping once the obligatory shit links have been released
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>>168657926
but now we have blue cards with a cool honeycomb pattern.

also
>implying anyone ever used those blue cards
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>>168657813
Konami killed the game harder than NAS killed DN.
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>>168657713
I'm alright with the shilling because it puts the game in a healthier state. People are exaggerating like these cards are useless now. They're use has been limited yes, but we have no fucking clue what type of links we will get in the future. At the very least spam won't just be free anymore.
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>>168658024
It's not like they were out of colors man, no need to repeat
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>>168657813
EXPLANATION FOR NEWCOMERS/CONFUSED FOLK (PART 1):

Fundamental Field Change 1: The Pendulum zone and Magic/Trap Zone have been collapsed together so that you have 3 purely Magic/Trap zones and 2 other zones that act either as Magic/Trap zones or Pendulum zones depending on what you put in it. In other words, if you are using two Pendulum monsters as scales, you now only have 3 open spaces for other magic and trap cards. Likewise, if you are filling all 5 spaces with magic and trap cards, you have no space to place any Pendulum monsters as scales.

Fundamental Field Change 2: Under normal conditions, Extra Deck monsters can no longer be summoned to the traditional 5-slot monster zones (which is now called "Main Monster Zones") from the Extra Deck. They can normally only be summoned to the newly created 2-slot "Extra Monster Zone" that is located in the center of the field between the players, directly in in front of the 2nd and 4th Main Monster Zones (i.e. in front of the 2 Main Monsters Zones that are not the leftmost/rightmost/middle ones). When there are no monsters in either Extra Monster Zone, the Extra Monster Zones are treated as not belonging to either player. The first player to summon an Extra Deck monster will have the ability to choose which of the 2 empty Extra Monster Zones they want to summon the monster in. The instant one of your monsters occupies one of the 2 Extra Monster Zones, the other empty Extra Monster Zone will belong to your opponent and you will no longer be allowed to summon a monster to that other zone as a result i.e. each player can only control 1 Extra Monster Zone at a time. The only way to have more than 1 Extra Deck monster on your side of the field is to utilize one of the newly created Extra Deck Monsters called "Link Monsters".
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>>168657813
Probably the biggest rule change in the history of the game. The entire meta is basically thrown out, every play from every episode of the anime is essentially illegal now, and your deck is now literal unplayable shit until you buy the new cards.
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>>168651959

Could have made them Yellow (like fake Ra) but Red is nice too (like fake Slifer)
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>>168657813
>>168658146
EXPLANATION FOR NEWCOMERS/CONFUSED FOLK (PART 2):

Link Monsters are a type of Extra Deck monster whose card frame color is dark blue with a hexagonal honeycomb-like pattern. These monsters have neither level nor rank (i.e. they have no stars whatsoever, the space between their name and the picture is blank). Furthermore, where their defense stat would normally be located is instead the text LINK-X, where X is a number that varies depending on the monster. This is the Link Monster's link number. Link Monsters do not have a defense stat. They can NEVER be in defense position under any circumstances.

Steps to summon a Link Monster:

Step 1: Look at its link number.
e.g. Decode Talker is Link-3

Step 2a: Send from your side of the field a number of monsters equal to the Link Number of the Link Monster you want to summon (also keep in mind that you must satisfy the monster material requirement on the Link Monster card)
e.g. Decode Talker is Link-3, so you must send 3 monsters to the graveyard. Specifically in Decode Talker's case, these all must be effect monsters, since it says so on the card.

Step 2b: (Alternative to Step 2a) If one of the monsters that you send to the graveryard for a Link Summon is itself a Link Monster, you can treat that monster as if it were X number of monsters for the purposes of the summon, where X is it's Link Number. (also keep in mind that you must satisfy the monster material requirement on the Link Monster card)
e.g. You send two monsters to the graveyard and summon a Link-2 monster. Now, instead of sending 3 monsters to the graveyard to summon a Link-3 monster, you can instead just send the Link-2 monster + one other monster. Specifically in the case of Decode Talker, these all must be effect monsters and you must use at least two Monsters since it says so on the card, so you can't just use 1 other Link-3 monster.
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>>168629904
>>168657274
u wot m8
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>>168658061
>At the very least spam won't just be free anymore.
Link spam is free. They are insanely easy to summon, they can be used as materials to summon stronger Links, AND they are not restricted like the other ED mechanics are since they themselves are what allow ED spam to even happen. It's the worst possible combination between Xyz and Synchro.
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>>168657926
But we already have orange cards?
why always red

>>168658146
>>168658321
its already in op
pastebin already
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>>168657813
Look at me. I am your meta now.
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>>168651959
THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN BRIGHT GREEN
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>>168658259
They should have been yellow like Yusakumydicklongtime's yellow hair when he goes VR mode.
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>>168658514
What are you trying to achieve here, exactly?
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Red-Eyes meta now! Kaiba BTFO
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>>168658389
Yes, but people don't read. But you right, spoonfeeding only perpetuates the problem.
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Why 2 breads?
>>168657274
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Who does the pendulum nerf really hurt? Majespecters? What decks really did pendulum and set 5?
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>>168658926
>made 5 hours later
fuck off
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>>168658634
He's clearly trying to Spell Counter, but he hasn't a clue of how to do it effectively. I wonder if Metalfoes would help to put more counters on shit like Exemplar and pop them onto the Citadel for Endymion, but it's only a guess because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing with Spell Counters either.
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Are Bricklords meta now?
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PICK ONE FUCKING THREAD
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>>168658024
Nekroz.
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>>168659267
actually, if you post a thread in one of the zones designated by the arrows on a Link Monster, you can control more than one at a time.
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>>168659215
Since people are having some trouble I'll make this handy guide on if your deck is suddenly meta.

Does it run Master Peace, the True Dracoslaying King?
>yes
Yes.
>no
No.
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Just now thinking about it but fighting for control over the extra spaces sounds fun. Adds another layer to the game.
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New meta
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>arc-v ends without us ever getting different-scale pendulum cards
wew
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>>168660208
could have been worse, it could have ended without scale 0
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>>168660208
And yet Link monsters are much more complicated.
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>>168660490
how will others mess it up this time
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>>168630303
1- Yes, because you can RUM using them too.
2- Yes. There's no rule against it. If there were such a Link monster that allowed it, and currently there aren't any.
3- No. Link rules have no effect on Pendulums, as Pendulums are treated as Main Deck Monsters for their Summoning purposes, they are just being Summoned from the Extra Deck.
>>168630306
Yes, we can, since Decode Talker specifies Effect Monster, and Link Spider specifies Normal Monster.
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>>168660680
5 pendulum power lel
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>>168660490
I don't think Link monsters themselves are that complicated, the new ED summoning mechanic is what makes it complicated
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>>168630303
Source on this cute anime?
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>>168660987
yeah it's trying to unlearn 15 years of how to play the game.
while still trying to learn the rules legal jargon.
Ive been playing this game nearly half my life, and now they just want to screw the rules. They don't even have money.
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>>168660069
If I can't set their Links I will fuckin turbo r2s and Socute him out of his extra as hard as possible
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Are Spyrals any good with Links?
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>>168661227
screw the rules, we want your money?
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>>168661375
Nope lol
SPYRALs were basically a DARK Synchro engine (if you wanted them to be any good), and have been shat on by Link change.
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>>168661458
Screw the rules, we need money.
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>>168629904
>those areola and nipples
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>>168662272
Puffy Areola and Nipples are the best.
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>>168662272
But this makes no sense.

Then why is she wearing the black undershirt?
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>>168662967
because shitty titty artists don't believe in shit that makes sense, they just draw garbage and unrefined idiots will get boners and think it's good anyway.
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>Ultimaya Tzolkin is trash now
>Ultimitl Bishbaalkin is stronger than ever
IT'S TIME FOR BITCHBALLIN TO BRING THE PAIN
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>>168662967
Nipples too strong
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>>168663098
>I am an enlightened internet cartoon porn connoisseur
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>>168663327
damn right i am. there comes a point where mindless shit like that just isn't gonna get me erect anymore because i'm not like, 14. kinda helps that i know how boobs work, too.
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So then how do you summon something from your extra deck if you have a link up? Like for a level xyz would you still need to overlay level 4 cards onto one of the spaces the link points to or do you just summon it from your extra deck at no cost?
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>>168663834
you still have to perform extra deck summons normally, what Link Monsters do is designate more zones you're allowed to put ED monsters into.
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>>168663834
the first thing.
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>>168663834
No need to worry about it.

2017 meta will be about the Main Deck.
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>>168663605
Okay /ic/, ooookay
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When you overlay can the Xyz go into any monster zone or does it have to go onto a zone where one of its materials used to be?
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>>168663605
I feel like you really don't realize how pathetic this is. It's kind of amazing.
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>>168663914
Are the monster spaces numbered now? Like for exams if you realize most of your links point bottom right can you simply just place your cards there?
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>>168664016
Just wait till they powercreep Link Monsters, you'll be going up against retarded extra deck spam again in no time.
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>>168664016
I was excited until I remembered that it'll probably just be monarchs and kozmo, or something
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>>168660680
God, I miss the god old days of everyone thinking Luster Pendulum was trash. I made some gooooooood fucking money off a shitload of him and Ignister.
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>>168664191
materials you use for summoning extra deck monsters can come from wherever they usually would, all that matters is that the monster being summoned from the Extra Deck is going into a zone it's allowed to be in.
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5 bucks there's a card that will negate a link monster's designator arrows
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>>168664016
>He doesn't know

>>168659654
>>168662132
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>More people start playing Qli
>literally getting jewed
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>>168660069
>>168661241
How will these new ed rules effect summons like dorklord? I would think you dont need link since its the same slot but this game doesn't make any sense
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>>168665512
Someone asked a similar question with Za Lightning earlier today. We'll need some shit to confirm it, but the idea that if you have a Trick up but no available ED slot then you cant drop Lord (since its still an xyz summon) makes some sense
I assume if you have the Main extra zone open or one free from a link you just move it to that space
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They're going to make so many Link monsters
One for each attribute will be a start
But then one for each type
Maybe some for specific archetypes
Half of them will be Dragons and Warriors and Machines
But that's not important, they'll need to make sure a majority of decks are able to reliably make Links in order to still play
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>>168666185
I feel like nearly every existing deck is going to get a Link Monster.
Konami just can't kill EVERYTHING.
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>>168664752
>Zoodiac is fine
>True Dracos are fine
remind again why the sky is falling
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>>168663327
Having good taste in porn keeps you from being ridiculed.
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>>168666228
If that's really the case then I'm legitimacy excited
Right now people only seem hysterical because there are so few Links to do things with
Just wait for them to release others with different links and effects and it will all get better
>tfw your ancient forgotten pet deck will never get a Link monster
>tfw Burning Abyss will get three
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>>168665512
>>168666102
It's like Tribute/Synchro/Xyz Summoning with a full field, as long as the materials used will "empty" the monster zone, then you can summon it, and place the newly summoned monster on the "emptied" zone.
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>>168665436
I lol'd
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>tfw your deck can still perform it's masturbatory tactics
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>>168663327
Is that the dog that died?
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>>168666519
Does Tewart or the nips still care about BA?
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>>168666703
No
But they'll get direct support Links anyway, just watch
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>>168664752
It's like they immediately revealed Missus Radiant so zoodiac players wouldn't kill themselves.
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>If all monsters you control are EARTH Warrior-Type Synchro Monsters (min 1):
Is this now officially the most worthless card in the game?

>Need links for additional EMZs in order to summon more than one
>If you have links it means you have a link monster
>Link monsters aren't EARTH Warrior-Type Synchro Monsters since they aren't Synchro Monsters
>Goyo Defender will never be able to summon another Goyo Defender
Oh wait. I just realized that your opponent's Link monster can potentially give you extra EMZs. So if you want to rely on that I guess it's technically possible to do so.
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So what have we not been told yet? Remember when Pendulums were first revealed they DIDN'T mention that they went to the Extra Deck when destroyed and could be resummoned? What's gonna be the twist for Links?
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>>168667235
imblying we won't get S/T that treat the zone(s) in front of them as linked zones or at least Linked Pendulums.
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>have an igknight in my leftmost S/T zone
>have igknight burst in my rightmost S/T zone
>use igknight pendulum to pop itself and burst to search two igknights at once
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>>168667007
It was really just a ploy to keep me playing

>>168667235
We don't know how cards that summon monsters from the ED without properly summoning them are going to work yet, but I'm extremely doubtful they're going to make Ultimaya in particular unusable
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>>168667372
When they're destroyed they return to the extra deck facedown.
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>>168667402
Linked monsters return to the extra deck when destroyed and face-up link monsters in your ED can be used for ACCELINK SUMMONING.
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Best card of 2017 becoming less useful than it is with the current rules thanks to new mechanic introduced in 2017. What did they mean by this?
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The pendulum nerf was unnecessary but I guess it satisfies the babies who for some reason think pendulum is op.
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>>168667235
This is what keeps killing me about Links. I know you can only R&D so much, but they feel like they were made without consideration for so much shit
Whole archetypes like BA and Psyframes are shafted, anything that changes position doesn't work on them, things like Foes and Specters have their backrow slots hampered to move the pend zones down. I still haven't wrapped my head around how pend monsters in general work under these
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>>168667712
t. mad PePefag
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>>168667712
Really, the only nerf they got was two fewer S/T zones. Which they can still use if their scales conveniently get destroyed first.
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>>168667793
EMEm was an Xyz deck dumbass.
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>>168667572
It'll be a one card link somehow
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Wonder if Dimensional Barrier will get an errata. Link summons are probably not an actual extra dimension, they're just virtual reality.
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>>168667782
>Psyframes
Actually. Speaking of Psyframes.
If you have Omega in an EMZ and banish it. Wouldn't it return in an MMZ?
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Maybe not this set, maybe not even this year, but rescue weasel is going to be top tier cancer at some point in this series.
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>>168666519
>Dinos get LINK monsters
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>>168668121
I'm assuming you can place it wherever. I think the new rules only works on summons directly from the extra deck.
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>>168668193
people thought of rescue hamster
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>>168668121
Psyframes return, they don't SS from the banished zone, so it'd go back to the EMZ.
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>>168667782
You know thats a good point. How the fuck does psyframe work now? You summon one syncro in the extra zone, self banish it and summon another on the now empty extra zone

Wheres the first one go when it returns?
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>>168668505
Welp, thats why you dont post without auto update
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>>168668281
Then those people were silly, rescue hamster was always super situational.
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>>168650080
good
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>>168668498
>>168668264
>>168668121
>>168668505
Old rules say you may place them wherever when they comeback. That being said, they might rule so that you can only put it back in the EMZ, but, while there's no confirmation on that part, we just go with the old rule.
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>>168658420
it might be the filter but is he smiling?
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>>168668498
Thing is though. If we disregard the new rules.
If you summon Omega in your third monster zone and banish it. And then summon another monster in the third monster zone.
Provided you still have a free monster zone, Omega still returns, only in another monster zone.

So if you summon Omega in an EMZ and banish it. And then occupy the EMZ. Is it possible that Omega could return in a free MMZ instead?
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We interrupt this LINKS discussion to remind you that Twilightlords are fucking CaCshit somehow made into shitty cards.
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>>168668967
The new Lightsworn cards look great though.
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>>168668871
if it's ruled that the extra deck monster is supposed to go back to the extra zone, it dies to game mechanics in this scenario. but since reviving fusion/synchro/xyz/links from the graveyard lets them go into ordinary monster zones, that almost certainly isn't the case.

that being said, holy shit, reviving link monsters from the graveyard could lead to some pretty crazy results I hadn't thought about before.
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>Once per turn, during your Main Phase: You can target 1 Link Monster you control; move it to a Main Monster Zone on your side of the field that it is linked to.
Man why isn't this a global rule instead of limited by a field spell.
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>>168667878
Xyz thanks to massive lv4 swarming made possible via, guess what,penduryamu
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>>168669087
>Man why isn't this a global rule instead of limited by a field spell.
This. It could have been a very interesting game mechanic.
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>>168669087
Guess it defeats the purpose somewhat. The link you summon into the EMZ you could just move immediately giving you your EMZ back at no cost.
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>>168669087
>>168669378
Having to in theory actually think about placement and only correct mistakes with resource is better

If you could always do that then whoever moves second has the advantage every time bc they can move in response to you assuming links that effect other side become common (holding out for a labrynth wall retrain where whoever links to it cant attack anyone else)
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>>168669020
>RAM Clouder
>Tribute 1 monster and target 1 Cybers-type monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it. Hard OPT.
This will probably be used to revive Links monsters since it doesn't actually increase monster count for Link summoning.
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>>168669020
Almost wonder if they'll change where Links go on destruction just because reviving Link monsters from the grave does sound really strong. It'd be like reviving Xyzs with their mats intact.
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So I guess now is a bad time to get back into the game?
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>>168669720
If your playing in real life I guess, since card prices and other shit will definitely fluctuate in price.
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>>168669720
Probably the best time what do you mean, new shit, whole new meta to discover, exciting stuff.
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>>168669618
>links that effect other side
I am assuming that those Link directions can only ever link if they're placed in one of the original EMZs. Of which you can only have one of at a time.
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>>168669703
Well, look at Decode Talker again, though. Reviving Decode Talker (and therefore summoning it to your main monster zone) does little but give your opponent an Extra Deck slot across from it.
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>>168669808
Yeah I meant in real life.
>>168669810
I guess. Now to re-read this new Link Summon stuff...
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>>168669815
>an Extra Deck slot across from it
Do we know for sure if the Linked zones travel that far? I'd think you could just point it to the innate EMZ and not worry about it if so.
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Thank god for Honeybot. This V-Jump was almost a complete and utter sausage fest.
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>>168669961
If only she were a generic 2 mat. Though she's already pretty worthless by being useless in the EMZ.
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>>168669952
I think the other EMZ still counts as an adjacent zone.
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>>168669952
>link lines travel infinitely
>duelist across the room from you can summon from his ED a monster on a zone pointed to by your Link monster as long as it doesn't hit any other zones first.
What a time to be alive.
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>>168669952
we don't, but i'm actually hoping it does because it makes things more interesting.

this diagram was the first thing I made while thinking about the new mechanic this morning.
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What if we get a new kind of field that's basically a representation of a virtual world and it goes in between the two EMZs
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>>168663125
how do you get this chump out though
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>Cyber dragon reprinted in the new starter deck
>it becomes Cybers type and the machine support for it no longer works
They wouldn't, would they? There's 77 fucking cards with "Cyber" in their name according to Pro. Maybe the english name will be "Virtual" or some shit.
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>>168670150
You tribute her with RAM and then special summon her in one of your MMZs next to RAM.
And then you can potentially use RAM as a material to summon another Hobeybot since RAM is also a Cyber.
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>>168629904
Is the sophia dream ded?
Is that card now fucked forever?
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>>168670598
And even if you don't do that, the flank 2 material Links are solely to be your secondary Links that you summon in the MMZ after summoning your primary Link in the EMZ. That's why she's only a 2 material: Because after you've invested in your LINK 3, you only need 2 materials to add to your Extra Deck Summon Range.
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>>168670596
"Cyber" =/= "Cybers"
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>>168669627
>That feeling when you play DDR to summon your RAM for DDR-RAM.
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>>168670790
honestly a deck that had enough one-turn advantage to shit out sophia (fluffal/synchron lawnmowing springs to mind) could probably churn out a few materials for the link summon

some builds can even fuse out the link monster now that i think about it
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>>168670790
No idiot, you just need to summon a Link first and then masturbate away.
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>>168670809
Well. You could summon Link Spider using Bittron or something. And then Special Summon Bittron from your hand using Link Spider.
Then send both Link Spider and Bittron to summon Hobeybot in the zone beneath Link Spider.

Link Spider is a 1mat Link after all. That can then also be used as a material for other Link Monsters.
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>>168671005
You'd need more than one link summon unless there's a link monster with all 3 bottom arrows in the near future or you have that field which would let you move a 2 link to a NMZ. Either way it's some significant card investment.
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>>168671247
Or you could just count on your opponent summoning a Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Ritual monster.
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>>168671209
>Then send both Link Spider and Bittron to summon Hobeybot in the zone beneath Link Spider.
Have to wait for rulings I suppose but I seriously doubt you can do that since you're sending away the Link that would allow you to ED Summon there in the first place. Would have to turn Bitron into a second Link Spider first.
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>>168671209
If you're removing a Link for the summon of a Fusion/Link, wouldn't that material Link kinda' not apply to the zone you want to put the Fusion/Link into? So if it's your only Link and in the EMZ, your new Fusion/Link would be forced into the EMZ.
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>>168671247
oh definitely

you'll probably have to use mali+level eater to set up your links before you do all your synchro+fusion masturbation

but you don't play gimmicky decks like sophia because it's easy
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>>168671410
Check that you still couldn't do it if you summoned a second Link Spider since that Link Spider couldn't SS another Bittron since it isn't linking any new zone.
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>>168671410
>>168671413
>>168671527
If you can make a Synchro, Xyz, or Fusion summon with all 5 monster zones occupied. You should be able to make an extra deck summon with a Link Spider and a Bittron.
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>>168670596
Pretty sure Cybers is about virtual shit, not machines. If anything, Digibugs should've been Cybers-Type.
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>>168671646
Yes but it'd go into the EMZ like >>168671413 said, and Honeybot in the EMZ is worthless.
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are you forgetting that even if you enable some links by summoning these two, you're leaving two vanilla monsters with 1900 and 1000 ATK on the field, stuck in attack position?
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>>168671646
>If you can
I meant could. As in pre-Links era ygo.
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Barrage went from 90 to 40 in a day because of this sheep community
Zoos are still incredibly good pick em up
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>>168671714
>Yes but it'd go into the EMZ
I am pretty sure you'd get to choose.
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>Regionals tomorrow
>can't find my Lancea
Panic
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>>168671859
I wish I could drive over and lend you mine desu
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>>168671790
>1 listing for $40 everything else for $90+
it's literally nothing

>>168671839
Why would you? You'd send the materials away and thus no longer have a linked zone enabled by Link Spider and be forced to place in the EMZ.
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>>168670150
>Though she's already pretty worthless by being useless in the EMZ.
Actually
>(1) Monsters that are Linked to this card cannot be targeted by effects or destroyed by battle.
Reminder that Honeybot in the EMZ would Link and power up your opponent's Link monster.
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>>168666670
You can't put the brakes on Igknight stall
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will the world championships games ever come back
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Shouldn't someone be compiling a screencap of all the reactions to the new mechanic before the thread disappears? You know, for history.
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Can't turn 1 into Odd Eyes Vortex, Meteorburst and Absolute anymore.

I'm gonna kick Konami;s ass, dammit!
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>>168671939
>can no longer be targeted
>thus can't be targeted by the opponent's own Castle Link
we advanced strats now boys.
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So frogs would have a pretty easy time to spam out links and then toads, especially since frog the jam makes the spider without a normal needed. Freeborn gives you free mats too for any other links
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>>168672053
Yeah probably
Just wait for them to release a Link that doubles as an omni-negator and everybody here will be sucking Linkock
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>>168671859
Ask your friends.

>what friends
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>>168672125
All spider does is take up your EMZ and turn 1 monster zone into a Linked Zone. There's no net gain unless you're looking to place a link like Honeybot there.
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>>168672151
Reminder that the rival of this series will have a Link monster with 3000 ATK.
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>>168672294
Also reminder that Decode Talker is the Junk Warrior of VRAINS and we haven't seen Yusaku's ace yet.
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>>168671935
Because it was Linked at the time when you were to make your summon?

I guess I am fairly 50/50 on whether or not it's possible, but I still feel that it's a lot more likely that you'll be able to.
I mean, it's less that you send the materials and then summon your monster. You send your materials as your monster is summoned. It's one action and not two or more.
If I was a betting man I'd bet on it being possible.
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https://twitter.com/halky_nekroz/status/832569970957496321
Just die stupid rat.
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>>168672381
>reminder that Decode Talker is the Junk Warrior of VRAINS and we haven't seen Yusaku's ace yet
Really? I thought Decode Talker was Yusaku's HOPU! / Utopia.
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>>168672381
I dunno, Yuya and Yuma never had smaller sub-Ace monsters. The fact he gets boosted to 3300 ATK just by having two monsters with him means he'll do the job just fine.
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>>168672467
JUST TRIBUTE THE RAT
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>https://ygorganization.com/imhotblooded/
Why do these people even bother?
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>Boards are used to ride the Data Wind in Link VRAINS
this is very silly.
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>>168672996
But cardgames on motorcycles isn't?
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>>168672996
not as much as card games on motorcycles
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>>168672584
3300 for having two linked monsters behind itself.
3800 for being face to face with an opponent's monster.
We're almost certainly going to get monsters with
"If a Link Monster Links this card, increase the ATK of that monster by 500" or whatever.
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>>168673107
>>168673098
I mostly meant the naming. "Data Wind" and "Link VRAINS" are both silly.
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>>168673134
Trash should stay in the trash, Dichroic Mirror
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>>168672584
Junk Warrior gained attack too lmao
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>>168673167
Data Wind is actually pretty cool. Reminds me of old science fiction before our modern computing systems of today became the standard.
And authors just crapped out whatever futuristic terms they deemed cool that still aligned somewhat with the general concepts.

VRAINS sounds better in Japanese. Or perhaps more accurately. Sounds better in Japan. It's a bit meh but it works.
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>>168673134
Wait why does it have links to the side and top of the cards? Aren't they supposed to supposed to designate where you can summon your extra deck underneath it?
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>>168673134
>gets buffed from being face to face with an opponent's monster
Most badass ace yet.
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>>168673425
You can summon Links to Linked NMZs and the zone in front is gonna be an opponent's zone that you've now Linked.
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>tfw HEY LISTEN hasn't affected my Bonanza Bros featuring the Bird-brained Baron and Baroness from the Big Blue Bastille deck

FEELS GREAT MAN
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>tfw Xyz spam gets killed before Konami imports Sharks and Full Armoured CrystalZero
Just end my life senpai
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>>168673535
>HEY LISTEN
Navi for YGO when?
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>mfw Batterymen are my favorite archetype
This is fucking great
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>>168675114
I absolutely love Batterymen too.
I wonder if they'd get a Link monster. I wouldn't count on it, but the fact that they're still making Lightsworn support and whatnot makes me think that they might.
But Batterymen should be cool either way.
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>>168673321
Clear Wing can't do shit against Decode Talker. It doesn't have a level and doesn't target anything.
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>>168653591
I bought a set of first ed near-mint Senet Switches this morning when they were still 20 cents a piece.

You stupid netdecking sheep who can't think for yourselves and have to wait for the pros/ecelebs to tell you things deserve to pay the price.

Have fun spending $30 for a set now, retards.
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>>168675114
Batterymen may become relevant again especially if they make a good two mat light linker
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>>168676881
You wasted 20 cents
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>>168676887
Or Thunder Linker.
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Neos will be meta in this format, screencap this!
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>>168677127
You can't Contact Yuugo without Links
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>>168677045
Konami is going to have to come out and make up a ruling on it.

It would be just as easy as saying "Main Monster slots don't count as being adjacent to the Extra Monster slot" but until that time comes, Senet Switch is amazing.
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>>168677110
That's probably more likely given their shit support
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When does Arc V end, I want to watch this new thing!
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>>168678476
Spring. It'll all end in tears.
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>>168629904
Be honest with me /dng/, will the new format make Rituals more useful and relevant than they are now? Will the nerfs to Extra Deck methods buff Rituals?
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Let me just get a few things straight.
If I tribute Stardust Dragon for its effect, once it is SS'd back to the field, it goes to the Main Monster Zone, right? It is being SS'd from the Graveyard, not from the Extra Deck, so it goes to the Main Monster Zone, is my chain of thought correct?
Same for Colossal Fighter.
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>>168679823
>is my chain of thought correct?
Yes.
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HOW TO SUMMON QUASAR?
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>>168680240
gotta send yourself to the shadow realm and play the old ruleset
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>>168679137
Tears of joy because that shitparade is finally over.
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>>168680240
>>168680305
I reckon it'll have some Jet Warrior and De-Synchro shenanigans
Or good old Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth by making Link monsters
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>>168680240
You believe in bonds so hard you break the limits imposed upon you by Konami
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/v/ says they should have stopped at fusions hahahaha FOOLS
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>>168681440
The game would probably be completely dead by now if they had never evolved it, rather than partially dead as it is currently.
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>>168681440
They are the sane one. Everything post Synchro is cancer.
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>>168681440
Isn't everything just various forms of contact fusion?
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>>168680240
Surpass yourself, surpass Linking, and forge a bond with your monsters that surpasses the restrictions imposed in this virtual world. Over the Top Clear Mind!
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>nothing said about the field spell card zone
>can use pendulums and spell and trap card zones
>everyone ignoring this
backrows from hell ar coming back big time
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Hold on.
If I Mind Control something in the Extra Monster Zone, does it go to my Extra Monster Zone, my Main Monster Zone or does it just rotate in the opponent's Extra Monster Zone?
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>>168683329
Pendulum Zones and the far left and far right S/T zones are overlapping now.
Field spell card zone stay the same, most likely.
Backrow isn't getting any buffs.
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>>168683421
The rule is that ED monsters cannot be 'Summoned' anywhere except into an Extra Monster Zone. That is its purpose.

There is nothing preventing them from being put into other zones after the fact. If you Mind Control it, it goes into a Main Monster Zone of your choosing. As far as when control swaps back to them, I don't recall if the player actually gets to pick what slot its put back into. But if you figure that out, the answer should be straightforward.
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Why are there two threads?
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>>168658146
>>168658321

Thank you dude, as someone who didn't play Yugioh since the Stardust release this really helps me out and also makes me worry if I should even start playing again.
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So amoeba kaijus can shit on everything?
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>>168683718
Because THEY'RE LINKED.
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>>168683973
STOP
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How early will YGOPRO be updated with link duels?
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>>168684331
when it applies to TCG in like 6 months
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Reminder that if this was introduced 10 years ago no one would bat an eye because it doesn't change the core of main deck play.
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>>168685135
Then where do I go to test this out? I really want to test the link mechanic
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>>168686609
dng

hahahaha
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>>168687546
Soul Charge and the like.
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miss this concept yet?
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>>168688560
Nah, the actual base idea of Link is way better, it's just the ED restriction is ridiculous. The link arrows should've purely been for effects and stuff.
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>>168680240

With 3 cards in Fish deck
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>>168688689
>The link arrows should've purely been for effects and stuff.
If they do this, the whole Link arrow will just get ignored just like Senet stuff.
Restricting ED is one way to enforce placement rules, alright, but doesn't make it less of a dick move.
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Can someone confirm if you can do some Link Summons like this?

Summon Draconet > spec Bittron
Bittron Link summon into Link Spider (Top Extra Slot)
Draconet and Link Spider Link summon into Honeybot (using the slot below Link Spider, but using it as a material at the same time)

Just need to know if the bit where summoning Honeybot in a slot that would use the Link monster as material is possible. Thanks.
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>>168689023
I don't think you can, since if you use Spider as Material, you will lose the linked zone so you're forced to use the EZM.

But who knows how Konami will rule it.
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>>168689125

This is really crucial with some cards combos, so I wonder how they will rule it. I really hope they rule it the way I want it (you can use the slot even if you used it as material) to help some card combos be better than they should be.
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>>168689023
Something like this?
I'm guessing you can't since the "Sent to graveyard" part and summoning part isn't exactly simultaneous just like tribute and synchro.
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>>168688560
No, your wording sucks dick
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>>168689245

Yes something like that.

Well that will kind of suck if they rule it that way, but I understand why.
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>>168689470
No YOUR wording sucks dick!
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>>168689617
I'm taking my RC 2 at the next YCS in my state
MY WORDING IS FINE
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>>168689718
YOUR WORDING IS GARBAGE
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Why are there two threads
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>>168689965
Well if you're browsing without any modifications, the board color should give you a clue.

See >>168683718
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So I have to xyz summon in the new extra monster zone right? I have to move my overlays on there?
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>>168690135
Yes.
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>>168689965
Because they're LINKED
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>>168690115
>>168690224
I don't get it. If there were cowtits in both OPs I'd make a good joke, but this doesn't.
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>>168689914
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>>168657274

This the real thread, move here weebs
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>>168658420
Is Master Peace a jew?
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>>168690335
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>>168689023
>using the slot below Link Spider, but using it as a material at the same time
Probably doesn't work, you have to summon a monster with Spider and then turn that into another Spider.
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>>168658420
NOT SO FAST
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>>168692697
Is this a meme or does it actually work?
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>>168696865
Does what actually work?
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Its time
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>>168697065
>Deskbot
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>>168658420
LMAO
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>link
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>>168689023
>using the slot below Link Spider, but using it as a material at the same time
I am pretty sure that it works. It would be silly if it doesn't.
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So is there any ygo client out there that has a decent ranked system? Percy's checkmate is fucked and devpro is utter shit.
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Are Burn decks going to be Tier 1?
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>>168701113
Not with Master Peace around.

Tier 2?
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>>168700384
no
play irl
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>>168702320
The tripfag is right, virtual cardgames never work.
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>>168663125
That would give your opponent mass tokens to Link with though.
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Are ghostricks playable again? A slower and less ED heavy game is basically tailor made for them, and socuteboss can in theory permanently lock out their extra zone depending on how they rule it.
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>>168710414
Ask again once they mention if you can use facedowns to make link monsters
I need to check how facedowns and contact fusions (?) to see if there's a precedent, I think
A slowed down game, even just by a bit, is nice, but everyone now has a monster that ignores Doll, Scare, everything.
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>>168710414
>>168710945
having one extra spot to place monsters means that skeleton mill might kill in 5ish turns instead of 7-ish, depending on how that's ruled
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>>168710945
>If a monster is face-down and you wish to use it for a Contact Fusion that shuffles the Fusion Materials into the Deck, you must reveal it before shuffling it into the Deck to allow your opponent to verify the card's identity.

>This is redundant for Contact Fusions conducted via banishing or sending to the Graveyard, as their Fusion Materials can be publicly verified afterwards.

From http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Contact_Fusion
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>>168710414
ghostrick will be playable for the few months that link monsters are kinda bad

once we get link monster swarm degeneracy they will be literally unplayable, you literally can't use facedown/def position effects on them meaning 90% of your cards don't work at all

granted, that was most meta decks anyway, but now its hard built into the card
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>>168660364
Wait we have those now?
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>>168711173
Huh, that's what I was worried about. They can try to recover momentum with a Link if they get set. So adding that to the list of things I do that links fuck, alongside Quaking and opening with Angel
If there's one thing I'm interested in, though, it's what engines people will come up with for making links. Now anything that makes multiple bodies is an engine, with no need to worry about levels, just what types the Link asks for

>>168711682
Pendulummucho and one of the Supreme Gates. The other gate is scale 13
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>>168711682
Also easily searchable to boot.
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>>168711682
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>>168658514
I do wish there was a good way to do Spell Counter Spellcasters. Sadly, they're just plain not as viable as at least a dozen other archetypes.

also fill the Extra deck, options are always good.
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>>168712345
Add Cinderella and her Bamboo Sword shenanigan and they'll be decent.
At least on par with Shinobaron.
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are pendulums in the extra deck extra deck monsters?
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>>168713038
Ask Konami.
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How long do we have, August?

I'm going to play nothing but triple quasar turbo until then, relish my 10 minute turns, and then put this game to bed.

Or I might just pick monarchs back up.
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Talk me out of wanting to try vanguard
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>>168713038
People working on ygopro said no and you can still mass pendulum summon, but still waiting for Konami to clarify.
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If I but the uk dark illusions utopia the lightning, can I play it in U.S. tcg tournaments?

I've tried google, but the answers seem to contradict themselves.
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>>168713038
Overlords on twitter posting combo think that Pendulum isn't an ED monster in ED.
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>>168649029
I would assume that if Decode Talker in this example was destroyed you could still special summon to the left and right of Gaia even though the chain to the Extra Monster Zone was unlinked?
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>>168715591
go with the manga pomo
shit is silly but how it works
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who watching the ycs stream?

>infernoid #rekt zoodiacs 2-0 thanks to snow
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>>168716520
Vu summoned the Broadbull though, even with a good hand.
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>>168716106
That's what I hope.
That will make opening EMZ space easier since you can just revive Link monster to open 1-2 zone in MMZ.

But the article kinda implies that the Link monster must stay in EMZ to link other zone
I'm not too sure.
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>>168629904
Soooo, anyone got the decklist of that banish stun deck which can shit out 10000 ATK Gren Majus like it's nothing?
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>>168667572
Probably means KoA wasn't informed of how links will work before this card was made
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>>168719727
>implying
Kozmo, U.A, Subterror, and Spyral say otherwise.
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>>168719909
to be honest I'm almost certain kozmo and U.A. weren't made with links in mind, but I can agree that subterror and spyral are a possibility. But it doesn't change the fact that Theseus makes no sense considering it doesn't do nearly the amount of things it did before the rules changes. Which is especially strange because of the spotlight they put on it.
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other than macr dbox and a se, anything else?

https://twitter.com/YuGiOh_TCG/status/833042769392263168
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>>168649029
To be honest I'm almost certain you'll be allowed to summon a link monster using another link monster in a linked zone instead of the extra zone because that's the only way I can make sense of the purpose of link monsters making themselves easier to summon by using other links. That mechanic doesn't really have any reason to exist unless you can do that with links as far as I can tell.
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So zoods still have theyr shit wtf is link suppose to fix?
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>>168719909
>UA is proof KoA knew about Links
Nigger, UA came out in DUEA which introduced pendulums, there's no way Konami had even thought of Links at that point
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>>168673167
VRAINS sounds weird and reminds me of Zombies.

Data Wind is cool af, though.
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>>168720180
yes we get it, must be very proud
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>>168720240
Oh like, Decode in Extra Zone, Link 3 into another Link 3 into Main Zone?
Maybe, but also maybe not. Seems like it might be abuseable.
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>>168720240
>That mechanic doesn't really have any reason to exist unless
Link mechanic doesn't really have any reason to exist.
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>>168720145
Maybe stuff about the Dimension Box?
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The new rule changes wouldn't be so bad if there wasn't ED restriction and we kept the pendulum zones
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>>168720462
Yeah it makes konami money. That's good enough.
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>>168720545
>The new rule changes wouldn't be so bad if nothing the rules changes effect was implemented
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>>168720429
Basically, and I think it was said in this htread already, I imagine that you're supposed to be able to make Link Spider, then use it as a material to make a Honeybot in the linked zone under Link Spider. Like I said, that's the only reason I can think that they bothered to have the mechanic of links making each other easier to summon. Why would I ever use another link to summon Honeybot for example if I couldn't do that? It kind of works for the higher link cards but they still need you to summon other higher-link monsters too so.
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>>168716106
That is exactly correct. You would still be able to summon to the zones linked to the Link Monster in the Main Monster Zone. The importance of the Extra Monster Zone is just getting your foot in the door link-wise to the Main Monster Zone.
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>>168720626
Exactly :^)
Fuck these rule changes, I'm gonna stick to Arc-V format
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>>168720240
>>168720438
To be fair everything could be solved by a healthy and proper use of the banlist, but they don't even know how to use it.
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>>168720751
>playing a dead format
>becoming the 'no synchro no xyz no pendulums' faggots in ygopro lobbies
You'll be back, or you'll quit. Don't footsie around it.
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>>168720438
Funny joke but what I mean is, Links exist in their form currently because they wanted to come up with a way to limit the extra deck. So they made the extra zone and the arrow link mechanic. Links can't change position or turn face down so the arrows can't be obscured or changed. Ok, that makes sense. I don't exactly know why they don't have levels (Xyz didn't because of how everything uses the same level and they learned from Synchro about how making things with levels combine with each other was risky-- I guess I can assume that they just didn't give them levels out of pure risk coverage since the rules have now established how cards without levels interact with things thanks to Xyz and I guess it's not important for them to have levels). But there's not really any mechanical reason that links make it easier to summon other links as far as I know. But it would make sense if you could make one link in your extra zone, then use that link to make another link in the linked zone, opening up more link zones plus the extra zone back up.
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People need to remember 2 things
1.Link monsters can summon each other, and are also monsters who will be really strong. Links are just the new xyz, they're much more than just linking to other zone.
2.This probably woulda happened with or without links. There's no way Konami would do something this big and drastic just for a new card gimmick. They probably thought the game was way too fast, especially after pendulums.
Ok maybe they'd do something like this to push product but still it was probably a long term decision to change how fast the game is.
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>>168720429
Wrong Decode says you need minimum 2 effect monsters so you would need a link 2 and a link 1 monster.
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>>168720642
>Why would I ever use another link to summon Honeybot for example if I couldn't do that?
To change the linked zone.
SS Linked Spider, SS ED monster in 2 of EMZ, then SS Radiant using Linked Spider and then using 1 and 3 of EMZ is pretty good move.

>>168720725
That's an assumption.
Previous ruling of tribute and synchro dictates that the monster is gone from field before the new monster is summoned, so the material's link would be gone when the new monster would be placed.
But it might be ruled otherwise though.
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>>168721048
>Wrong Decode says you need minimum 2 effect monsters so you would need a link 2 and a link 1 monster.
I didn't mean Decode into Decode. I'm just talking Decode into generic Link 3 that doesnt exist yet.
Hypotheticals anon
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>>168720894
No other series had to completely gut the previous mechanic to shill the new one, the fact that Links need to gut the ED and neuter pendulums means it's an inherently shitty mechanic.
And Links is the "No synchro/no xyz/ no pendulum" autism if anything
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>>168721220
This was probably gonna happen with or without Links.
This is just Konami saying slow the fucking damn game to a more reasonable pace.
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>>168721220
Links didn't do anything. konami outright changed the rules of the game, and Links support the new rules. That's it. If anything Links under the new rules are what help make previous spam decks at least halfway usable now. It's an important distinction considering you're attacking the "mechanic". The "mechanic" is actually really good, and as said by someone else it probably was an inevitability that some huge change had to happen at some point. It just so happen that the change coincided with a mechanic that helped you to use the old things they shit on.
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>>168721048
Or Link-2 and an effect monster.

>>168721004
Line breaker, motherfucker.
Also, you're talking from game balance wise.
Based from previous ruling, placing the new monster in previously linked zone doesn't make sense mechanic wise.
That's like saying you can't tribute summon if you have full monster zone.
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>>168721192
Ok that makes sense now yeah that could work I guess.
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>>168721414
all main deck cards and ED cards except for Link2 and 3 are link 1 so far.
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How do you summon a Link Monster exactly?
Can it Attack the opponent or does it just have an Attack stat for when it's a target?
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>>168721575
>all main deck cards
>are link 1 so far
what
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>>168720429
>Seems like it might be abuseable.
Yeah. Just have a Link 3 that does something upon being summoned and you could then theoretically cycle through DT -> it -> DT -> it -> DT -> it if you wanted.

It'd be Zoodiacs all over again.
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>>168721220
Not any inherently shittier than any other method. Multiple monsters become one monster. It's pretty much Contact Fusion with a few more restrictions added.

You can still Synchro, you can still Xyz, and you can still Pendulum, even without Links. You just can't go turbo retard and vomit out all your resources onto the field turn 1. Everybody is completely crushed by the fact they cannot do this anymore. Have you ever considered the fact you should either find a way to make up for it, or just accept slower play?

People will adapt to the new mechanic with gusto once they're done being up in arms over it. They did it for Synchro, they did it for Xyz, they did it for Pendulum. This is no different.
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>>168721657
it can attack like any monster
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>>168721318
>>168721410
This is not stopping the game from being fast. Are you retarded? We already have fast decks that don't rely on the Extra Deck (Kozmo, Mermail, Noids, Monarchs) and Zoodiacs are basicaly unaffected. Also, nothing stops Konami from printing strong Link monsters for we to spam over Xyzs/Synchros. They support each other and are what allow ED spam to happen in the first place, while also being more generic than Synchros AND Xyzs. There is no way Link spam won't be a thing.
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>>168721318
>>168721410
>these new changes meant to shill the new mechanic have nothing to do with the new mechanic
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>>168721665
New rules. Techincally all non-link monsters are Link-1 now. Link Spider itself says one Link-1 Normal monster, so a normal Level 4 normal monster can summon, ergo, its Link-1
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>>168721657
It can attack like any other monster. You summon it by sending the materials listed on it like a synchro or xyz. I also think the number of materials can be lowered if you use other link monsters, by the link number of the monster used, but it's foggy to me. Decode Talker says "2 or more effect monsters" but other Link monsters specify exact amounts so I don't know if they can be lowered or what.
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Why doesn't /dng/ follow YCS livestreams?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_MwTQy1NI8
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>>168721885
The dust from the recent announcement hasn't settled.
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>>168721743
Decode Talker needs at least 2 materials, so you can't cycle through it using only one Link 3
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>>168721854
Even Spell and Trap?

Just kidding, you're going at it backwards.
That's like saying a monster that can be treated as 2 tribute is 2 monster.
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What happens if a link monster on the main field gets book of mooned and attacked for piercing? If it works like I assume it does (treated as 0 DEF) then Chaos Max is gonna be meta
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>>168721885
We are still killing each other over Links
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>>168721984
Oh yeah, true enough. Whoops.
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Is the actual effect being kept a secret for now, or are you meant to play Gaia literally just for his attack?
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>>168721854
Link-N is the number of Links the monster has. Link Spider is a Link-1 because it forms one link. It wouldn't make any sense if all monsters were now default link-1. According to the wiki, Link Spider's material is just 1 Normal monster so I don't know where you're getting that
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>>168722085
Place it below Link Spider.
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still possible under the new rules
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>>168722085
Best example of the retardation in this thread.
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>>168722048
Links can't get booked. Under absolutely no circumstances, links can not go to defense no matter what.
>>168722045
>>168722113
Oh really? My bad
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>>168722085
He's an example, presumably.
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>>168722085
He's a Non-Effect Link following the same theming as the other Gaias. His advantage is generic materials and having two side Link Markers.
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>>168722085
>new changes kill ED to shill links
>one of the first few doesn't even have an effect
Linkfags will defend this
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>>168722085
Just for his attack and his links, yes. He's a generic Honeybot. You're meant to summon a Link with Links 1/2/3 like Missus Radiant and then summon link monsters with links 4/6 like Gaiasaber to open up more extra deck summons
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>>168722242
It´s a Gaia. Most of the variants of that guy don´t have effects. It´s probably tradition.
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>>168722183
buy zebras
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So can anyone tell me why the FUCK Links are blue and not red? Can anyone justify this? I will destroy konami.
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>>168722563
No.
Just destroy Konami already.
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>>168722563
It fits well with the cyberspace aesthetic. Red would look terrible with it and would make no sense at all.
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>>168722563
What's wrong with them being blue? It's not like there's any other blue bordered cards.
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>want to play fabled and rda
>cant
>want to play number 93.dek even though its shit
>cant

why, it basically makes me one turn or more slower but on top of that i lose anyway b/c this does nothing to zoodiacs
i dont even care about the losses but how the fuck is this ok
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>>168722563
So can anyone tell me why the FUCK people want red?
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>>168722797
~ R I T U A L S ~
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So do we have any confirmation yet on if top arrow links allow your opponent to special summon to those main monster zones or if it just works with their effects, i.e. Decode Talker gets another 500 attack for your opponents monster? If the former, going second will have a huge advantage
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>>168722856
It's the best color, okay?
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>>168722856
Nice colour and we haven't had any red bordered cards yet.
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>>168722856
The only relevant color that is left.
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>>168723076
>they said that the first one to claim EMZ have advantage
>If the former, going second will have a huge advantage
Take a guess.
And no, still no proper ruling.
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>>168721110
>That's an assumption.
>Previous ruling of tribute and synchro dictates that the monster is gone from field before the new monster is summoned, so the material's link would be gone when the new monster would be placed.
>But it might be ruled otherwise though.
You are misunderstand what the guy was asking.

He was asking essentially "If you summon Decode Talker >>168649029, and then summon Gaiasaber, but Decode Talker then later gets destroyed, am I still able to summon
into the zones left and right of Gaiasaber, even those those zones are not connected to the Extra Deck zone by any link chain" He was worried that the linked zones of Gaiasaber might be deactivated if Gaiasaber is not linked to a monster in the Extra Deck zone i.e. he was worried if all linked zones must ultimately be chain linked to the extra deck zone in order to be operational.
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>>168723206
>>168723216
Trap?
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reposting since other thread died
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>>168723076
Any Monster Zone that a Link Marker points to is treated as a Linked Zone in which you can summon a Monster from the Extra Deck.
Make of that what you will, we won't know shit until they demo it and potentially answer that question, or until the starter deck releases and someone gives us a translation.
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>>168723438
How in the fuck are traps red to you/
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>>168723438
Much more of a purple-colour.
It's reasonbly close but it'd be like saying Rituals and Spells look too similar.
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>>168723438
Are you daltonic, by any chance?
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Links should have been yellow-green
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>>168723392
Oh, sorry, too many people claiming their assumption is correct confuses me.

And about the link monster in MMZ.
They said
>if you have Link monster in your EMZ, you can use the Linked zone pointed by the Linked Marker to summon ED monster
Which bring the question whether you need to control the link monster and whether it's mandatory for the link monster to stay in EMZ.
In other word, what claimed as true is actually still up in the air.
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>>168660069
Ghostrick Prostitute meta.
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>>168723548
>>168723636
>>168723693
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>catches cl2 my body
>not cl1

Jesus christ
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>>168724506
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>>168724506
>implying I said they were Purple
They are more like Magenta, but still not Red.
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>>168724716
Isn't magenta red?
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>>168724716
>>168724827
pic related
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>>168724916
I still say that 1 and 3 is red.
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>>168721885
I'm still too pissed off at Konami to give a shit about their crappy and boring stream right now.
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>>168725049
Then you are colorblind.
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>>168725141
Pink is still red.
1 especially is too red to be categorized as purple.
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>>168724916
Bottomleft looks more Crimson than anything else.
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>Effect monsters will never get Card Descriptions
>You will never get additional lore
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>>168725425
That's why Master Guide exist, silly.
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>>168725425
Are Zebras competitive with the new support in MACR?
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>>168725648
>competitive
>when Zood receives support and Master Peace
Hah.
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>>168725648
>competitive
Probably not.
They are very much playable though, unlike pre-MACR Zebras, that were insanely gimmicky to play.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EEkT_qf2VM

He's summoning only 1 Extra Deck Monster on purpose.
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Ok, I don't really understand the zones with these new rules.
Basically the Pendulum Zone disappeared and now they go into the S/T Zone, right? And what about the Monster Zone? How many cards can you summon there?
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>>168726086
Now, imagine Lightsworn Rulers with this.
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So, the japanese stores are stopping to sell Yu-Gi-Oh! now because of Konami?
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>>168722183
Zefra is pretty fun.
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>>168726254
5 Zones for non-Extra Deck monsters for each player. Extra Deck monsters can only be played on those Zones by making use of the new Link bullshit.
2 new Zones exclusively for Extra Deck monsters (but you can only control 1 of those Zones at a time).
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>>168726086
He's playing against Noble Knights and Nordics. I hope you aren't expecting me to be impressed
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>Youtubers are making videos about Links without fully understanding it and spreading false rumors like the "You can't Kaiju a monster one the EMZ" one.
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>>168726567
If you revive an ED monster, it goes to MMZ.
Just saying.
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How are you meant to play DDDs in a post-Links world?
I am trying to think of various plays. But nothing really compares with the pre-Links combos, though I guess that's a given.
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>>168726817
>You can't Kaiju a monster one the EMZ"
That made sense for a second but then I remembered that Kaiju's don't necacerily go over the monster that you use to Tribute for them.
THat said what happens in a situation where all your main monster zones are full and they try to Kaijuu something that's in the EMZ?
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>no card shops anywhere around me to actually duel people IRL
>still want to get cards IRL because I like holding them and looking at them because I'm autistic
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HERALDS ARE THE FUTURE.
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>>168727161
Only Konami knows.
We aren't even sure whether you can't summon non-ED monster in EMZ.
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>>168727019
Wait for them to release a Link 2 that's easy to summon for them. Something like a Link 2 that requires 2 or more DARKs or Fiends should do it.
It's too hard as of right now, unless you go through the effort of throwing every ED monster you summon into the Graveyard mid combo, while abusing Ragnarok as much as possible to bring them back.
It's just not the same thing.
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all this does is give shit that can spam ss more protection
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>>168727320
>We aren't even sure whether you can't summon non-ED monster in EMZ.
I am pretty sure you can't, although yes, we have not literally been told so.
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>>168727161
>THat said what happens in a situation where all your main monster zones are full and they try to Kaijuu something that's in the EMZ?
Assuming you can't play non-ED monsters in the EMZ, you can't summon your Kaiju.
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>>168658514
special mahad
normal jet or glow up bulb
synch arcanite
revive jet or bulb
synch crystal wing
so hard
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>>168629904
>the whole gamestate of yugioh changes before we even get Outer Entity Azzathoth.
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>>168727481
Just a reminder, it's called Extra Monster Zone, not Extra Deck Monster Zone.
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>>168727496
Can't you tribute monsters but not summon them in the same zone as one of the tributed monsters? Cuz then you could use kaijus
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>>168727161
>>168727496
I've seen Yugitubers say that if you tribute a monster in the Extra Monster Zone, the Kaiju goes in the Main Monster Zone and if the Main Monster Zone is full, then you cannot tribute a monster in the Extra Monster Zone to summon it.
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>>168727770
they dont know
konami doesnt know
this change is stupid
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>>168726086
what's that evil judgement dragon? i've been out of the loop.
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>>168727660
True.
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>>168727740
He's talking about having a full field.
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>>168727851
Check the fucking ygorg
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>>168727413
They wanted to slow down the game but this isn't the thing to do it, it only shafts 90% of decks because of links. They should just limit special summons to 2 per turn.
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>>168727770
Yes, this is the logical conclusion of it and people like >>168727830 are just incapable of using their brains.

A monster is tributed, then the Kaiju is summoned. If you tribute an EMZ monster, it must go into the MMZ.

If the MMZ's are full, the Kaiju would have nowhere to go if you tributed the monster in the EMZ, so you'd have to tribute a monster in the MMZ.
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>>168727851
Punishment Dragon
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>>168728006
>They should just limit special summons to 2 per turn.
8-10 Seems like a more reasonable Number, still enables combo's but doesn't allow loops.
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>>168727968
>checking a 3rd party site
no thank you.
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>>168727368
Yeah. Using Heliopolis mid-combo just to drop Necro Slime and let my pendulums fall to the graveyard without going to the extra, felt pretty disgusting.

Disregarding that though. I wonder how Crystal Wing + Hope Harbinger with Decode Talker will fair as a turn 1 field after Links.
But with no hand and not a single other card on the field I feel like it's not good enough. But I guess it's something at the very least.
The sad thing is that just setting a bunch of traps will likely be the superior field. But oh well.

And yeah, an actually good Link2 should do wonders for what they can do. Decode Talker minussed me hard. It really, really doesn't feel like a suitable Link Monster for DDDs. They need to reveal the others already.
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>>168728006
>They should just limit special summons to 2 per turn.
That would kill EVEN MORE decks. Are you retarded?
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>>168728118
What are you doing here, then?
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>>168728006
Use summon limit in all your decks and then come back.
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>>168728006
>I want Demise meta
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>>168728213
yes i am
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BLACK STONE OF LEGEND REPRINT
W H E N
H
E
N
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>>168728214
What are you doing here, then?
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>>168727019
I really wonder why people think turn 1 ED spam is dead.
Any moderately good deck can clearly still do it.
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>>168728094
>8-10

That's basically what we have now

>>168728213
No it wouldn't. It wouldn't literally kill off an entire deck like link summoning has done to the extra deck. It would slow the game down like they want without destroying an entire component of the game.

Maybe a 3 SS would be the good limit per turn.
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>>168728421
I'm not the one that doesn't want to check 3rd party site though.
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>>168727526
>Playing half of those in spell counter
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>>168728006
That would do the same shit. Whats the point in limiting ED when almost all decks work off of special summons of some sort? Of there are some that don't, however either way its hard to draw a line because regardless of what you do more things that AREN'T dangerous get fucked than anything.

>>168728063
Just like the logical conclusion of chaining a facedown call to its own destruction should allow Deneb to search but yet it doesn't in the tcg. Konami doesn't know shit about their own game and this has been obvious since tribute the rat.
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>>168728506
What are you doing here, then?
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>>168728418
Legendary Decks 2. We need new Red-Eyes cards like a better fusion.
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>>168728559
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>>168727830
Makes sense to me though.
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>>168728456
It stops extreme mastubatory loops which in turn helps stop those super unbreakable boards.
Only downside I can see is that Zoodiacs do only SS like 7 times for the BnB.
2-3 would outright ruin the game imo. I play YGO because the only resource is your cards so you can make big swingy plays, if i wanted to play skullbeat-esque decks i'll go to shadowverse or magic.
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>>168727019
Their new cards really are super. It's a shame they're in the same set that changes everything. I would have liked to see them play around more freely for a while before the game changing this drastically.
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WHAT THE FUCK

>NEW YUGIOH STANDARDS ALSO ARE ENFORCING THE USE OF OFFICIAL SLEEVES, AND NOT 3RD PARTY (ultra pro, etc.)

So it isn't just mats that nip stores were complaining about.
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>>168728635
I
I do recall a Red-eyes darkness dragon themed structure deck that was old as balls, GX era old. It came out a short bit after the Dinosaur and Sea serpent one too.
God i hope they give red-eyes a fusion that's atleast a little hard to remove.
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>>168728690
I never said it didn't The fact that it wasn't addressed leads me to believe they never thought about it.
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>>168728828
holy shit, a revolt is coming, let them pull that shit over here.
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>>168728537
>in the tcg
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contradicting_Rulings
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>>168728663
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>>168728828
jesus christ how horrifying.
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>>168728828
I LOVE LINK MONSTERS, BUT WHAT THE FUCK, KOMONEY?
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>>168729010
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>>168728828
>not only official mats, but NEW official mats and sleeves being pushed
Oh I'm feelin the flow now
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>>168729004
do you not know what an example is
hell you're actually more giving the impression it doesnt matter b/c tcg will do what it wants to anyway which means this is even more of a clusterfuck than before
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>>168728828
gonna need some source on that anon
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>>168729178
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>>168728828
Yep, this game is fucked.
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>>168728828
Wait so if I sleeve my deck in KMCs they'll say I need to resleeve the whole deck?

are their sleeves even any good?
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I just threw this together, hope it helps some of you get your heads around the changes.
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>>168728828
Holy shit. No place is gonna carry ygo anymore and the changes will be reversed at this rate
And Vrains will be cancelled and we'll get an extra season of Arc-V as a slice of life anime
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>>168729453
Its all a cash grab
Which is stupid b/c people would buy their shit anyway without this.
They could even simply make playmats to sell and people would buy them because the playmats are nice generally.
This being forced is garbage.

And we're just gonna end up with stacked as fuck links anyway and despite this aiming to slow things down the decks that can shit the monsters for xyz will only benifit from this even more.

What
Is
The
Point
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>>168658146
Welp. That Tierra gimmick deck I made just took a hit.
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>Got an ulti leviair at locals
Ahhhh, what a good day.
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Okay, but like
Did we ever find out who mystery sex man is?
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Now that specific monster zones are important now, are we going to see more senet meme techs?
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>>168629904
is YGOPro on android dead?
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>>168730249
Looks like Dark Red Encanter but the hair is not right.
Maybe an upgraded version?
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>>168729960
Yeah, anything that can swarm the board first turn without Extra Deck will only get better with Links. It isn't going to be hard to setup two Links for 3 free Extra Monster Zones.
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>>168730320
It wasn't really alive to begin with. But who knows, it might see an update it the far, far future. It was always sporadic and unreliable.
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>>168729263
Friend of mine works in a nip card shop

Vented to me about the changes. Said that official sleeves are in place because of new tournament rulings on accessories for ygo in general.
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>>168728828
Hasn't that been the rule at official tourneys for years now? You also have to use official Konami tokens, right? I thought that was all already in effect.
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>Nobody thought allowing link monsters to be in defence which in turn changes where they point was a good idea
What the fuck Konami
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>>168666405
Ou forget. KAIJUS
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>>168730298
Maybe? I think more people will try to tech in Link Monsters with Left and Right Arrows to get more monsters out rather than something that doesn't to more than dosey doe
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>>168730396
>Yeah, anything that can swarm the board first turn without Extra Deck will only get better with Links.
I really want to give LL-Links a go. I have a feeling it could be really fun.
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>>168730520
>not moving ED monster out of EMZ so you can summon more ED monster
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>>168730396
I'm thinking about he fact that Decode is omni negation. Sure it cost's 3 but say I play like Heraldics or something vs Zoodiacs. It can acellerate heraldics a little bit, but i'm still losing this match-up more often than not.

Playing RDA/KINGU.deck is gonna suck ass now tho.

>>168730430
You need sleeves but not official ones. They tried to push a sleeve change before just to revoke it.
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>>168730585
>LL
>mandatory to summon their Force Strix t1
>need every piece of monster they have to summon the direct attacker
Fat chance, man.
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>>168730714
I wouldn't be surprised if it got a reprint.
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>>168730430
That was never in effect, read the fucking rulebook you dumbass lol
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>>168730850
What?
And it will be really easy to summon Link Monsters with them.
And even so, Starling and Nightingale do pretty well on their own if you don't have an opportunity to OTK. And if you can OTK, you typically do so with just one Nightingale anyway.
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except for Frog the Jam
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Come on line to find half of dngs shitty decks are gonna get nerfed after this rule change

Most of you fags are so reliant on spamming the field with extra deck monsters that toons would probably be more viable than any of your shit strats after this change

OP gets reported for posting tatas in the general picture

Damm didn't know it was gonna be a good day on this board today.
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What is the most used thing on this general? ygopro percy or salvation?
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>>168731562
>Announcing reports
Nice.

>>168731593
No one uses salvation.
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>>168731593
No one uses Salvation or Devpro here.
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>>168731593
dueling network
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>>168731593
It's Percy. Hence why it's linked inthe OP.
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>>168731562
>OP gets reported for posting tatas in the general picture
The OP image doesn't break any rules. Wrongful reports are against the rules though.
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>>168731593
How do you even use Salvation? I heard they had Links working, so I went to their site and couldn't get the game to work at all. I could edit decks and shit, but hosting and joining games was impossible.
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>>168731562
bruh whats so wrong with waning to play # 93? I just wanted to have a RUM funtime
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>>168731323
>Starling and Nightingale
This is the problem.
Both are ED monster and you need to summon a Starling, and sometimes multiple Starling, if you want to prepare for 3-5-mat Nightingale.
And using the MD monster to summon Link is a waste since you need every piece to summon your finisher Nightingale.

Using 1-mat Starling is pretty much a waste, since you should be able to protect it using Nightingale.
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>>168657274
Could anyone give me a list of generic staples this format?
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Im betting on the banlist coming out before YCS Atlanta, its either that or some time before the Duelist Saga comes out.
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>>168731673
Speak for yourself, DevPro is the superior sim.
>>168732236
DBarrier.
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>>168629904
Why is Scrap Recycler worth 5 dollars?
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>>168732236
maxx c (NEVER. NOT. RUN. THIS. CARD.)
dimensional barrier
solemn strike
ghost ogre, for ocg use the new loli
twin twister or cosmic cyclone
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Any chance this year's World using Link?
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>>168732337
Oh thanks, seems that's a from a pretty new set
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>>168732423
zero
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>>168732026
>This is the problem.
>Both are ED monster and you need to summon a Starling, and sometimes multiple Starling, if you want to prepare for 3-5-mat Nightingale.
What? No you don't. Starling is great, sure. But half the time Starling is more in the way than not due to how you can't use Starling to make Nightingale. And at the very least, it will be possible to send Starling away for a Link monster when Starling no longer has anything to do on the field.

Also. With Warbler and Swallow it's far from difficult to make 4-5+ mat Nightingales.
To be frank, most of the time I only ever use Starlings to buff Ultimate Falcon while grabbing combo pieces whenever I go first and can't attack with Nightingale even I was to make it.
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>>168729657
I gonna miss the variety of decks that the Arc-V era had. I'm sure Vrains will be Zexal all over again but with Links being milked instead of XYZs.
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>>168732402
Thanks

Snow Ogre right?
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>>168732337
>DevPro is the superior sim
DevPro is inconsistent, unstable, and generally far slower and or buggy with its cards.
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>>168732508
Are you implying that you always have your combo pieces?
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>>168732402
>maxx c (NEVER. NOT. RUN. THIS. CARD.)
No fuck Maxx "C". It's either terrible and does nothing, or it does everything. It's a dumb and silly card and unless your deck can use it to summon extra deck monsters efficiently, screw it. No need to fill the deck with figurative coin tosses like it.
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>>168732787
kek
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>amerifats waking up
>shitposting levels off the charts
what gives?
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So what were these guys saying again?
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>>168732882
Nice one Straya.
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>>168732882
It's fucking 4 pm you autist.
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>>168732936
"We'll burn Konami's headquarters to ashes"
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>>168732707
In the vast majority of cases yes. And even when not, they're so easily searchable that you should be able to search them without Starling.

Starling is good yes, but it's not as if you rely on Starling to do your plays.
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>>168732402
OCG runs both of the loli cards in the main.
>>168732423
No, dumbass.
>>168732882
It's 4pm dumbass. Leave your cave once in awhile.
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>>168729453
Can we just call them Link Zones? Makes way more sense IMO.
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>>168733016
>autist
says the tripfag lmoa
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>>168733263
Konami called them Extra Monster Zones (EMZs) and Main Monster Zones (MMZs).
Not even that guy but I see no reason to not use the official terms in this case. EMZ and MMZ are pretty good abbreviations.
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>>168731562
There's nothing wrong with wanting to end your turn with a Extradeck card or two. The only issue is when you shit out unbreakable boards but we have Kaiju's and Sphere mode to deal with that shit.
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>>168733403
EMZ and MMZ are horrible looking acronyms though. I'd personally prefer to just call them Link Zones.
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>>168733263
>>168733549
You put Extra Deck Monsters in the Extra Monster Zones, it makes sense lad. Link Zones would insinuate that you can only put Link Monsters in them.
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>People wanting to buy my 'dolches off me at locals
What a strange feeling.
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>>168733497
>but we have Kaiju's and Sphere mode to deal with that shit
Just you wait until Konami inevitably prints the "Monsters linked with this card cannot be tributed by your opponent." Link Monster.
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>Pegasus AI opens with Mind Crush, activates it during Draw Phase
>selects Treeborn Frog
lol
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>>168733130
>they're so easily searchable
With what? Where Arf Thou?

LL combo mostly consist of 3-card combo and 3 Where Arf Thou won't be enough.
Unless, of course, if you want to end up with 2-mat Nightingale.
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>>168733763
>testing against AI_Exodia
>turn 1, use Hand Destruction
>they discard Exodia pieces and surrender
what
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>>168733263
No, dumbass.
EMZ is for Extra Deck Monsters
MMZ is for Main Deck Monsters
LZ is for Linked Zones, the zones that are connected to a Link Monster, and are temporarily allowing Extra Deck Monsters to be Summoned into those Zones.

You cant call them Link Zones because Link Zones are already a thing.
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>>168733130
That's like saying RR doesn't need Force Strix to make their play.
They can still summon Rise Falcon and other R4, alright, but yeah.
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>>168733309
No, dumbass. "Tripfags" are good.
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How dead are Synchro decks now?
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>>168734918
>Synchro spam
>dying
>ever

In terms of the meta it's been dead for a while, but people will always try to masturbate Quasar (or Blazar) onto the battlefield because they just love their precious white cards.
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>>168734918
dead
>>168735081
lel
DARK Synchro wasn't a thing apparently
dumbass.
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>link monsters can't be flipped facedown
>this kills the ghostrick

But they are so cute
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>>168629904
How can Konami defend this?
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>>168735382

KO
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>>168735297
REMEMBER ME?
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>>168735604
I'm such a tard. I actually had that in my old ghostrick deck. It might not be fucked after all.
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>>168735382
I look at this and think I just need to be ready to sideboard against them. ideas?
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>>168730369
I kind of forgot about that guy. Think he'd be a good tech in DM? I feel like I activate so many spells in that deck he might be able to go off multiple times in one turn.
>>
So what exactly encapsulates the cyber type that isn't machine or psychic?
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>>168735859
Musakani magatama for counter counter and counter drancia
Mask of restrict
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>>168735869
Nope.
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I still miss DN...
It was literally my ONLY hobby!
>>
Hosting.
Note: /dng/
Pass: vidya

I feel like playing some games.
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>>168736151
Play IRL and spill spaghetti at locals.
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>>168735986
Well I just post images to share art when I can. This is actually the deck I'm trying to use.
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Does anybody know who designs the mechanics?
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still no link monster template?
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>>168736196
No thanks. I revealed my powerlevel the other day to two kids playing yugs in the library and they spazzed out on me.
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>>168736214
my uncle works at konami, he says if you use link monsters, you can capture magi magi girl
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>>168736391
green text that story
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I'm a mostly DN scrub, whats the fastest and best way to play on YGOPro? Checkmate server?
Also YGOPRO is the most used right?
>>
>>168736508
>magi magi girl
not if Kaz has anything to say
>>
Why are people so sure Bahamut Shark summons in the main zone?
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>>168732787
Get your dumbass back to pojo.
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>>168735604
>>168735683
Links are making Quaking worse, so why not revert to what I was using before them
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>>168736901
this has circulated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux38RACO2kQ
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>>168736901
Because it isn't a proper Special Summon, obviously. Only proper Special Summons go to the EMZ or LZ.
>>168736750
DevPro is easiest.
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>>168737409
And he is summoning in a linked zone there
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>>168736151
this is still hilarious
neodasus was one fucked up dude
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>>168736674
in so many words:
>try to enforce the stellarknight ruling
>kid throws a literal tantrum telling me im wrong
>storms off to get his mom

And so I had to explain chain mechanics to a pissy 40 yr old lady with everyone staring.
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>>168737473
I hear that a lot but also that DevPro is buggier/slower and such?
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>>168737473
There is no ruling yet about that so I don't know why people are so sure it works that way
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>>168736184
gg
I really hate stun. Did you have stoic in hand?
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>>168736184
Good game. Re-hosting.
>>
>>168737807
which stellarknight ruling
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>>168736151
>no "wet grilled cheese"
>>
Does somebody have that time traveler picture?
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>>168738147
>Did you have stoic in hand?
I didn't. Not this time. Not that I really needed it. Had I had it, it would have been a ridiculous overkill.

>I really hate stun.
I feel you. Interestingly enough though, that trap is actually my only trap in the deck.
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>>168738323
So I played it too safe with the 7sins and paid for it.
Fug.
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>>168737881
Because you're allowed to SS Special Summon-only monsters from the Graveyard into the Main Deck Monster Zone.

Q: If Special Summoned an Extra Deck Monster normally, and it goes to the Graveyard, and I want to Special Summon it with “Monster Reborn”, which Zone does it go to?
A: It goes into the Main Monster Zone, not the Extra Monster Zone.
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>>168737807
How old are you and how old were those kids?
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>>168728828
BUY THOSE SLEEVES, GOYIM
BUY THOSE MATS, GOYIM
BUY THOSE LINK MONSTERS, GOYIM
>>
>>168738314
does it matter ? guy was an autist that didnt realize he was playing with little children. you're supposed to let kids win.
>>168738519
It's not a rule that you have to use official mats and sleeves.
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>>168738314
yknow when people chain their oases to a dark hole and they can't get the eff on sum cause of that funky ruling
>>168738490
10-13 area
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>>168738469
But that is a proper special summon. I think that ruling is more like nekroz unicore where he won't negate extra deck monsters that are summoned from the graveyard.
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>>168629904
So UDS is a big meme or its important?
>>
>>168737807
you should have just left why the fuck would you bother explaining to someones mom
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>>168738764
And how old are you?
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>>168739043
I wasn't just gonna run off and sneak out the back door like a guilty pedophile. I didn't do anything wrong.
>>168739137
22
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>>168738318
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>>168739365
>22
So why the fuck did you think it was a good idea to play with random 10-13 year-old kids in a library?
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>>168739649
Because mentally we're all 10-13 playing with fucking trading cards
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>>168728828
>>NEW YUGIOH STANDARDS ALSO ARE ENFORCING THE USE OF OFFICIAL SLEEVES, AND NOT 3RD PARTY (ultra pro, etc.)
Holy shit is this real? FUCKING GREAT. Seeing all those nerds with their shitty fanmde mats of Lolis and Anime shit was horrible. BASED KONAMI
>>
>>168739365
What happened after you explained
>>
All the simulations out right now (YGOPro, DevPro, Salvation, Dueling Nexus etc) all feel deader than Dueling Network. Maybe its because DN was manual and had no competition
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So i tried making a monster mash deck using level 3 monsters. Its not anything special and its probably shit by most of your standards but i have fun with it. even managed to get finish holds effect off a couple times. I didnt realize you could keep activating his "blow up everything" effect multiple times.
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>>168740065
He probably cried and his mommy got him some tendies.
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>>168729181
rabbina is a S L U T
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>>168740065
She was gonna start adjudicating the game like a fucking Kojima judge, but she didn't know shit about the game and she was arguing shit like how it "should be". It got fucking akward so I made some excuses to dip.

It was real retarded.
>>
>>168728828
if the official sleeves are against cheaters is not reallly a bad thing
>>
>>168740403
>It was real retarded.
You are retarded for being acting like that on a match against children.
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>>168738627
>It's not a rule that you have to use official mats and sleeves.
It is now.
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>>168740403
so in the end you dipped after looking like a retard instead of just dipping as soon as you realized they were trying to get their mom
>>
Links should have just been deck master-esque cards
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>>168730421
just in tounaments? maybe is okay
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>>168738884
You're thinking wrong. Your example is nothing like this ruling.
>>168740049
No they arent. Stop this memey bullshit. There's absolutely nothing to suggest this.
>>168740728
Except every retard that keeps posting this stupid shit refuses to post a source, and the rulebook has never prohibited personal mats, tokens, and sleeves in T2 events.
>>168740805
They should have been like Planeswalkers.
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>>168740934
>They should have been like Planeswalkers.
But that's what they are now.
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>>168740805
the relevance of monsters in the field with 1900 or less the attack and the zones mattering is interesant but konami fucked up
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>>168741081
Go back to mexicon faggot!
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>>168740595
>>168740778
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>>168741236
no u
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>>168737812
DevPro is shit. There is a reason it's only a vocal minority that brings it up all the time.
Salvation is pretty bad too, but at the very least it does things YGOPro doesn't. DevPro is pretty much YGOPro but worse.
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>>168740049
>Yuya's poster that close to Kaiba's
Pretty disgusting tbqh

>>168740192
>Rank 3 spam
>not running Tri-Edge Levia
>>
I don't want to be one of those people who say their favorite deck is now really good because of links, but can we talk about how Infernoids are gonna be pretty good?
>minimal reliance on the ED
>LINKS HAVE NO LEVEL/RANK
>can effectively turn your entire grave into links + big noids
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>>168741619
Besides the Tri-Edge, any tips on making it better?
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>>168740049
Just to spite you, I'm going to get an extremely embarassing anime mat with link zones and sleeves to match.
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>>168741715
On the other hand.
Ash.
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>>168741059
you didnt play mtg obv
>>168741572
devpro is ygopro but it's not full of autists.
>>168741715
Infernoids were already meta.
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>>168741858
>But not full of autists
You've got that backwards, friend.
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Is this playmat tournament legal?
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>>168741993
>No link zones
Nope!
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>>168741830
Terrortop obviously
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>>168741993
Yes, it is, because Konami has never and will never enforce a fake rule like requiring official mats.

Well actually, it's up to the HJ discretion because it's sexualized, so I wouldn't expect that mat to be T2 event legal.
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Why are they so fun?
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So does
https://www.duelingbook.com/
work? Because I'm seeing the splash page.
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>>168742238
Elaborate troll sadly
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>>168742221
Because you touch yourself at night.
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>>168728828
Source: Your ass
>>
>>168742357
Is that why it's stuck at connecting?
>>
>>168735914
Literally nothing. It's another Wyrm situation where they don't want to keep strengthening an already powerful type but they want to keep making cards of that type because they're popular.
>>
>>168742238
stop this meme already.
>>
>>168742221
>Pulled triple princess
How do I even deal with these shits?
>>
>>168742238
It's a phishing scam. Azneyes and Xtevens will steal your personal information.
>>
>>168742658
What personal information?
>>
>>168742556
No YOUR ass. The source is your ass.
>>
>>168742605
I run 3 of them. You can use them to punch over big shit for game or just to prevent an OTK. Plus its nice when I can use its summoned effect to dump a prince and then use it with uni to get a omega, though that almost never happens turn 1 and I have to use lady instead.
>>
So, when do we get the Net Navi cards? Around april or would konami slow the starter deck to after Maximum Crisis?
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>>168742789
Outch.
>>
>>168742559
Yep. I desperately want it to be real but it isn't
>>
>>168742572
>Let's make another type which we would possibly not support in the long terms!
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>>168742897
Folks on (((reddit))) say it's just because the servers are shitty and that it'll be fixed eventually!
>>
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The Pilicahead is the most pattable head in the universe. There is no other head more pattable.
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>>168743064
The Pilica is the most fuckable card in the universe. There is no slut more attractive.
>>
>>168743061
and (((youtube)))!
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>>168743182
Anon...
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>>168743182
How fucking old are you Mario? You were here when I started coming.
>>
>>168742836
>Net Navi, MMZ
>Eidolon, Tetra Master
>Newtype, Cyber
what else will they rip
>>
>>168743265
18 now. 19 soon.
>>
>>168741830
Gallis the Star Beast is amazing in a Monster mash deck as it's practically a free SS while having the chance to send a PK to the grave.

Edge imp Sabers is also another great card to consider since you can use him as Rank 3 fodder every turn. He also makes Mathematician a 1-card rank 3 and can be summoned off of tour guide.
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>>168743416
you sack of shit. They should have benned your 12 year old ass
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>>168743573
kek
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>>168743182
Hold it right there pedo! Lolis are not for fucking, and they are pure, not sluts. You're under arrest!
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>>168743573
Nah, he is lying. I'm sure he is 30 something.
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>>168743679
That's pretty funny. Usually people think I'm underage.
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>>168743520
Are there any other good rank 3 cards i can use?
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>>168743336
>net navi
>zero series
no
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>>168743689
could ya keep these lewds back at mmg bud
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>>168743416
that's young
I'm 28.
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>>168743771
30 IS UNDERAGE
>>
>>168743771
Nah, only a manchild could be this devoted. Little kids are not as focused.
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>>168740192
>no Dante
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>>168744098
It's called autism and having a lot of free time.
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>>168743898
rank 3 castel when?
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>>168744146
Okay I added Dante spanish woman, you happy

>>168744331
Never
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>>168743924
oh I know its cyber elfs pal but I was more linking along the recent things they have used from others, more than once
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>>168744331
no, better a rank 3 101
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>>168743898
This >>168744146 2 Leviair for PK plays and a Future Hope. Grampulse and Invoker are also solid options.

You only really need 1 Stardust since you'll rarely summon the 2nd.
>>
>>168737807
>>168736391
>>168738764
>watching 10 year olds play yu-gi-oh in the library from another table
>notice what cards they're using
>use all your muscle you can mustar to lift yourself up from your seat, your ass stained the seat in sweat
>scurry over to their table and tell them you like yu-gi-oh and want to watch them duel
>s-sure mister
>one of them starts to internally panic and wonders if he should just leave
>you start breathing slightly heaving "d-don't mind me, just play"
>the ten year old can literally see slices of cheese in your beard
>see that he plays stellarknight incorrectly
>you turn to his face, he's staring dead ahead trying to not make eye contact with you as he can taste the mountain dew kickstart and doritos on your breath as you scream in the side of his face "WRONG"
>the kid starts having a coughing fit and gags a little due to your smell
>runs to get his mom
>you turn to the other kid with a nick bates smile and roll your eyes
>his mom comes over, mortified at the neckbeard that sits before her
>"You need to get away from my son before I call the authorites"
>you pick up his card and start pointing at it
>"BUT YOU SEE YOUR SON WAS PLAYING THIS CARD WRONG! THE RULING CLEARLY SAYS...."
>she snatches her son and the other kid and leaves while you go on about the ruling and try to follow her out the library

That was the day she made her son quit Yu-Gi-Oh! forever.
>>
>>168744331
>2 mat link castel
this is our future
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>>168744659
OKay this is what it looks like now, i could probably take out some monsters from the deck, but hows the extra deck lookin?

Also Konami when the fuck do i get my marauding captain archetype
>>
Does Darkness Approaches work on Link Monsters?
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>>168745251
Link monsters can't be flipped face-down
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>>168744962
>link 2 with arrows pointing up to your opponent's zones and it can spin anything it's linked to OPT
might be neat
>>
>>168745251
Probably.
>>
Post troll decks
>>
>>168745484
>there are no Troll monsters
woah
>>
>>168745406
Nani?! But if they don't have defense, shouldn't it be zero?!
>>
>>168745409
That's actually really legit. Links that punish them for using the EM slots they open up, beyond Dickode Talker gaining stats
This is why I don't wanna bear through the first few meh Links before the decent ones roll out
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>>168745484
troll decks
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>>168744938
This provided me with many keks.
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>>168745484
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>>168745664
this is getting stale
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>>168745668
I really like the link mechanic, I think there'll be a lot of neat cards to come from it. Just not a huge fan of the new extra deck mechanic right now.
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>>168745484
This is the worst I got.


Also question to you all, if Level Pod got printed do you think it would get banned?
>>
>>168744964
>+1 Star Beast
>+1 Forward
>+1 ROTA
>-2 Achacha Archer
>-1 Achachan Chanbara
>-2 Immortal Bunshi

Everything else is fine.
>>
>>168745960
Probably.
>>
>>168745406
Is there an official source for that or something? I've only heard that from an Azneyes video.
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>>168745484
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>>168745796
I like it. Needs more Exodia limbs.
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>>168746106
>Azneyes
anon...
>>
>>168746258
I'm watching every Yugituber react to Link Summons.
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>>168746106
honestly im not sure pic related is what was said however.
>>
>>168746351
why
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>>168746220
That's the joke, actually. It's more consistent without exodia.
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>Playing against Justice
>He's using Toons
>Activates Mind Crush and Calls out the one Raigeki in my hand

I know they always know whats in your hand but come on now
>>
>>168745406
Face-down ATK position is a thing.
>>
>>168746462
Curiosity on how different people are reacting to Link Summons and how properly they understand it.
>>
>tmw someone makes an all pot deck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA566fwxAT0

>>168746804
I know that, but how it was worded on the site made it seem like they couldnt be flipped down or into turned to defense mode effects
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>>168746591
Makes sense. Still going to try the Exodia edition.
>>
>>168746460
Darkness Approaches doesn't change the battle position though.
>>
>Q: Can you use “Book of Moon” on Link Monsters?
>A: Link Monsters cannot ever exist in face-down Defense Position, so you cannot target them with “Book of Moon”.
Ygorg fixed the translation to "cannot exist in face-down defense position" from "cannot be flipped face-down".
I guess now you can use Darkness Approaches on them and kill the linked zone.
>>
>>168747016
Oh Okay so it was a translation error. My bad everyone sorry about the wrong information.
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>>168747016
While it does destroy the link I'd rather just destroy or bounce the monster instead.
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>>168745484
>>
>>168747016
Can we stop this stupid darkness approaches meme?
>go -3 to flip their link facedown
>next turn they flip it face up
IT DOES NOTHING, if it were a quick-play then maybe, if it was a permanent face-down then maybe.
>>
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This game is awesome. You guys should plat it more. This one if official after all
>>
>>168747195
>next turn they flip it face up
You cannot change the battle position of Link monster.
>>
>>168629904
Question: has anyone realized that now that pendulums go in the 5 s/t zones, is it possible we'll be getting Nega-Pendulums , or whatever we would call Trap Pendulums?
>>
>>168747249
>slow as fuck everything
no thanks
>>
>>168747249
Don't you have more Link Monsters to shill with your now dead game, Konami?
>>
>>168747195
It's not about usability, it's about rulings you idiot.
>>
>>168747283
Battle position is upright and sideways, not face-up and face-down.
>>
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It would be kinda funny if konami just went crazy and unbanned all the pot cards

Also when do we get more pumpkins that would be cool
>>
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Is it possible to make a decent deck centered around this card in the current format?
>>
>>168747325
>The Left Most and Right Most Spell & Trap Zones are regular Spell & Trap Zones, and do not become Pendulum Zones unless you activate a Pendulum Card in them, or if a Pendulum Card is placed in them by a card effect.
>unless you activate a Pendulum Card in them
You can't set Pendulum to Pendulum zone since they're still monster in hand, unless you activates it.

The best we can get is some Artifact-esque Pendulum that place itself in Pendulum zone when destroyed or something.
>>
>>168747579
Can Theseus meme it until Links come and make Tzolkin nigh unusable.
>>
>>168747513
You can't flip monster unless you change its battle position, or through card effect.
>>
>>168747834
Oh, so when you flip up and card made FD by DA it goes to def, huh?
>>
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>>168747249
>Baiting this hard
>>
>>168747953
No, it's goes to either face-up attack, or fd def.
But it still considered an act of changing battle position.
>>
>>168747834
Found this.
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Darkness_Approaches
>If you change the battle position of a face-down Attack Position monster, it can be changed to either face-up Attack Position or face-down Defense Position.
>>
>>168748153
>If you change the battle position
Thank you.
>>
>>168748093
Where'd you get that?
>>
>>168747805
Anything specific I should run along side Theseus? I haven't played in a long time and am pretty out of the loop.
>>
>>168748316
Instant fusion helps.
>>
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>>168748289
http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=4&cid=4902&request_locale=ja
>>
>>168748259
>>168748423
Just tested it with Grarl in YGOPro. I guess you can't.
>>
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>there are people unironically praising Konami for neutering the Extra Deck with the Link mechanic
>there are people that failed to realize that this was only a mild inconvenience for the current dominating decks and that this all but killed countless Tier 2, petdecks and even meme character decks
>there are people that still cannot grasp this is blatant shilling at its worst by forcing you to buy Link Monsters in order to play the rest of your deck and by putting what is essentially a tax on the Extra Deck

Why is it always the shitters that are the fucking dumbest and praise everything Konami does?
>>
>>168748746
Just kept screwing around for a bit.
When I clicked flip summon (there's no grarl on the field at this time) on the FD atk monster, It only let me change it to either FU atk or FD def mode. How is changing from FD atk to FD def flip summoning lol it doesn't even flip.
>>
>>168748367
I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing
>>
>>168748925
neck yourself retard, zoodiacs are a lot less degenerate with links even if they are still op
>>
>>168748925
It hurts Zoodiac more than you'd think. It's barrage or nothing now.

Also
>playing irl and buying cards
You brought this upon yourself.
>>
page 10 you fags
>>
>>168749113
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DEbXornxGg
https://twitter.com/halky_nekroz/status/832569970957496321
>>
>>168749113
>he hasn't seen the Twitter/Youtube/Niconico vids yet
>implying I play IRL anymore

You're missing the part where this also affects all of your precious simulators. You're literally being taxed to use your own Extra Deck.
>>
>>168749390
>starts with Barrage because he has to use his normal summon on something else
What did I just fucking say faggot
>>
>>168749113
lolretard
>>
>>168749390
>>168749559

I dont think you understand what zoodiacs could do with no links

the play in this vids is very basic compared to the degeneracy they are capable of now
>>
>>168749564
>literally the next combo starts with Rat
>>
can one of you niggers make a new thread already
>>
>>168749720
>and a continuous trap in the grave thus can't be done first turn
Keep it coming dumbass I'm here all night.
>>
>>168749794
>>168749794
>>
>>168749060
Button caption in pro is frequently wrong/misleading, but what they did usually correct.
>>
>>168749664
Saying that the big guys are hurt by this is meaningless when everything else that matters was hurt at least as badly and there's effectively no change in the rankings. All this does is make it easier for the new hotness to send in the exterminators, whatever the next meta deck ends up being.
>>
>>168749793
>a continuous trap in the grave thus can't be done first turn
Read Rat.
>>
>>168749664
>he doesn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quujGXC88sg
>>
>>168749664
I don't think you understand what zoodiacs could do with links

the play in that vids is very basic compared to the degeneracy they are and still capable of now
>>
>>168750063
>he doesn't know

where did you get this meme?
>>
/dng/ #2450 (Last thread)
>>168609215
/dng/ #2451
>>168629858
/dng/ #2452
>>168657274
/dng/ #2453 (This thread)
>>168629904
/dng/ #2454 (new thread)
>>168749794
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