Dueling Network General - /dng/

First for YGO is dead

My head hurts so much.

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3rd for Dark Magician is Tier 1 now

Blue cards were a mistake, with Red cards nothing of these would have happened.

Nekroz alive

NO BLACK AND WHITE IN THE BLUE

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>>168609215
Who /CHAOS/ here? Been waiting for this for fucking years now lads. time to get my boys back on the forbidden list.

this is easily the most retarded change done to the game, period.

who do i yell at, or do i just hope the overlords on twitter shame them into making better decisions by having card shops threaten to drop the game?

will stratos finally be free?

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Ritual and Tribute bros are feeling good now

Do a left/right link marker while in the normal EDZ means your monster is linked to the enemy EDZ?

So let's say you have Dank Law out. Can you not link summon since the materials don't go to grave?

>>168609403
To be fair, Nekroz is only dead because of the banlist.

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EXPLANATION FOR NEWCOMERS/CONFUSED FOLK (PART 1):

Fundamental Field Change 1: The Pendulum zone and Magic/Trap Zone have been collapsed together so that you have 3 purely Magic/Trap zones and 2 other zones that act either as Magic/Trap zone or Pendulum zones depending on what you put in it. In other words, if you are using two Pendulum monsters as scales, you now only have 3 open spaces for other magic and trap cards. Likewise, if you are filling all 5 spaces with magic and trap cards, you have no space to place any Pendulum monsters as scales.

Fundamental Field Change 2: Under normal conditions, extra deck monsters can no longer be summon to the traditional monster field (which is now called the "Main Monster Zone") from the Extra Deck. They can normally only be summoned to the newly created "Extra Zone" (2 slots) that is located in the center of the field between the players. Each player can only use 1 Extra Zone. The only way to have more than 1 Extra Deck monster on your side of the field is to utilize one of the newly created Extra Deck Monsters called "Link Monsters".

Link Monsters are a type of Extra Deck monster that have no level nor rank. Furthermore, where their defense stat would normally be is instead the text LINK-X, where X is a number that varies depending on the monster. This is the Link Monster's link number. Link Monsters do not have a defense stat. They can NEVER be in defense position under any circumstances.

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can i be useful now?

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>buy Link monsters or you won't be able to play the game
that's it, I'm retiring for real this time

>>168609659
that should have been the default pendulum zone setup since the beginning

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Let's play a Game.

Does it Link?

>>168609708
Just like Xyz monsters.

My magician girl deck will actually see some use now. Percy must be pulling his hair out by now,tho

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Look at me
I'm the meta now

>>168609609
>hexproof floater deck with main deck stun shit and that can still make fields of CDI + Dark Lady/Planet regardless of Link
>not cancer after Extra Deck and other stun is murdered

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>>168609659
EXPLANATION FOR NEWCOMERS/CONFUSED FOLK (PART 2):

Steps to summon a Link Monster:

Step 1: Look at its link number.
e.g. Decode Talker is Link-3

Step 2a: Send from your side of the field a number of monsters equal to the Link Number of the Link Monster you want to summon (also keep in mind that you must satisfy the monster
material requirement on the Link Monster card)
e.g. Decode Talker is Link-3, so you must send 3 monsters to the graveyard. Specifically
in Decode Talker's case, these all must be effect monsters, since it says so on the card.

Step 2b: (Alternative to Step 2a) If one of the monsters that you send to the graveryard for a Link Summon is itself a Link Monster, you can treat that monster as if it were X number of monsters for the purposes of the the summon, where X is it's Link Number. (also keep in mind that you must satisfy the monster material requirement on the Link Monster card)
e.g. You send two monsters to the graveyard and summon a Link-2 monster. Now,
instead of sending 3 monsters to the graveyard to summon a Link-3 monster, you can
instead just send the Link-2 monster + one other monster. Specifically in the case of
Decode Talker, these all must be effect monsters and you must use at least two
Monsters since it says so on the card, so you can't just use 1 other Link-3 monster.

Step 3: Once the Link Monster is summoned, look at the card picture frame. You will see 8
arrows, some number of which are lit up red (the number lit up red is equal to the monster's
Link number). Field zones that are in contact with the red link marker arrows are said to be
"linked" with that Link Monster. Monster Zones that are linked with a Link Monster become
additional Zones that you are allowed to Extra Deck summon in.

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Where there's a will, there's a way

>>168609604
See that pic? >>168609659
Now tell me whether the EDZ is adjacent to each other.

>>168609743
That doesn't answer the question, retard.

So how am i supposed to summon a quasar dragon now?

>>168609708
Or just play a deck that doesn't use extra deck monsters like Kozmo or Monarchs.

I will see you all when the Archfiend and Barrier come off the limited list and Link Spam becomes viable.

Infernities shall rise again.

>>168609825
>e.g. Decode Talker is Link-3, so you must send 3 monsters to the graveyard. Specifically
From the hand or from the field?

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>>168609939
>summon link with 2 arrows
>summon 2 synchron monsters
>pic related
???
>quasar

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will spellbooks be viable again?

>>168609531
I completly agree. I play since the Yugi Structure Deck and always stuck with the up and down of this game, and this is the first time I'm hesitating about quiting the game.

Will we slowly see the banlist let a lot of stuff off due to the new rules?

>>168609937
That's exactly the answer.
There's no answer.

>>168609825
>ED based decks will lose to stuff like Kozmos until Link monsters start getting powercreeped, i.e. around episode 75 of YGO VRAINS
good luck trying to play this game LMAO

>>168610041
holy shit i want to waifu that card

>>168609825
EXPLANATION FOR NEWCOMERS/CONFUSED FOLK (PART 3):

If you have a Link Monster in the Extra Zone, and thus now have a Main Monster Zone linked to it where you can now Extra Deck summon, you could summon another Link Monster to the Main Monster Zone to extend the number of monster zones that are linked (i.e. if I summon a Link Monster to my Main Monster Zone that has left or right pointing red link markers, those adjacent zones become linked to that Link Monster and thus I can summon an Extra Deck monster there, even though the it isn't linked to the Link Monster in the Extra Zone). That is how you could still possibly will the field with Extra Deck monsters even though a Link Monster could have at most 3 bottom links (which would make you think you can only have 3 Main Monster
Zone Extra Deck monsters since the Link Monster in the Extra Zone could at most connect to 3 of your Main Monster Zones).

If a Link Monster you control has a red link marker that points to an opponent’s monster zone, the opponent is able to Extra Deck summon in that zone, so that is a negative. On the other hand, if your Link Monster has an effect that relies on having linked monsters, and your opponent has a monster in a zone linked to your Link Monster, you can benefit from that linkage (an example is Decode Talker, which gains 500 ATK for each linked monster. Since Decode Talker has a top-facing link marker, if your opponent has a monster in the zone ahead of Decode Talker, Decode Talker gains 500 ATK).

An Extra Deck Monster that is properly summoned and then goes to the graveyard can be revived into any main monster zone, even if that zone is not linked to any Link Monster.

>>168606521
>>168606532
>Who knows
>Nothing indicated otherwise, anon.
But we all know because they already explicitly told us.

An illegitimate summon doesn't make the monsters any less Extra Deck Monsters than if they were summoned legitimately.
I have absolutely no idea whatsoever why you would ever think they would be exempt.

What we know is that Monsters need Extra Monster Zones to be summoned from the Extra Deck. That's it.

>>168609825
so does the arrow pointing up mean the opponent can summon from the ed in that zone?

>>168610030
From your side of the field.

>>168610169
Yes.

>>168610169
like this? >>168609746

>>168610030
Field, obviously.

Imagine that a good Link 1 was released.

Activate Hangar
Search C
Normal summon C
C equip B
Link 1
CL1 C CL2 B
Search A, summon A
Link 2, put C back to your hand to start this again
Banish the ABC pieces
Make ABC buster in the slot
Optionally banish your own Link to lock opponents out


Is this a viable play?

>>168610169
yes. Talker gives a Link zone to the oponent

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>yfw your deck got fucked and hard

>>168610153
What we know and explicitly written in that article is that ED monster need EMZ.
Not just any monster from ED, but specifically ED monster.

so what's stopping master piss and friends from shitting all over konami's brand new mechanic

>>168610407
banlist
just wait and see

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IT'S TIME

>>168610053
Probably, I would love to see Mind Master at 1 at least again. Who cares about Gusto loops I want to play banish psychics

Now that gay ftks and ED spam is dead it's time to free
Construct
Chain
Stratos
Cock Master
Ptolemaius
Infernity Archfiend
Dragonfly
Hornet
Zenmaity
Wavering
And of course
D R A G O N S

>>168609939
You summon a left/right LINK monster, move it backwards, and you have 3 available ED slots. Summon you synchros normally, then summon quasar.

>>168610298
They will never print such a card.
:^)
screencapping this myself

>>168610169
Thats what we currenty assume. I guess its supposed to be a backdraw.

>>168610318
It's the exact opposite of what you said.

>>168610169
>>168610261
>>168610310
There's nothing indicated that.
Decoder have his effect that makes him gain ATK for each monster linked to him, so the Link might exist only for that specific purpose.

The article specifically said that you need to control a Link monster if you want to summon ED monster in MMZ.

>>168609469
Best monster
Best deck

>>168610446
Column Control:

A dream no more.

>>168610446
He's finally getting his time to shine

>>168610445
you basically have to neuter the entire deck if you want the new stuff to be able to compete though, given that true draco could compete with zood dudes on a good day

Ok but I can I have Construct back please?

>>168610261
shit, here come the floodgates again, only this time, blue monsters get first dibs.

>>168610516
All they said is ED monster, anon.
Point me exactly where it says monster from ED.

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>>168609746
So no takers here?
Nobody even wants to guess?

What about this one?
Its multiple choice.

Can I use pendulum monsters for the summon of a Link Monster? Cause they go to the extra and not grave?

Are there any diagonal down Link 2's yet?

>>168610446
But now 2 collums have (5) zones.

Now what?

>>168609708
You can still play even with your deck that has nothing but synchros, you just can't pull off insanely long plays and OTK someone with your faggot synchros.

>>168610678
They are the same thing, that's why Konami didn't have to use "monster from ED".

>>168610472
>Ptolemaius
No

>>168609746
Yes?
>>168610751
B?

>>168610751
Key here is probably adjacent.

List all viable meta decks after this change.

>>168609746
>>168610751
no

>>168610787
Missus Radiant

>>168610787
Missus Radiant.
L-2, 2 EARTH monster.
BL, BR.

>>168610865
Noids

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I for one welcome our new Link Overlords

>>168610891
>not using numpad notation

>>168610865
NOBLE KNIGHTS
FINALLY OUR TIME HAS COME

>>168610825
Persona Dragon, Shaddoll Fusion, and Elysion said no.

>>168610801
the important part here is all.

(4) is to make sure you know how to count. probably works out fine on the jap text

Link Monsters dont give a fuck about Dimensional Barrier :^)

>>168610865
Noble knights

>>168610756
Probably yes, since you can use Pendulums to Synchro Summon.

>>168610553
>"Normally, if you have a Link Monster in the Extra Monster Zone, the Zones pointed at by their Link Markers can be used to Summon Extra Deck Monsters!"
Assume this was translate do correctly, it says the linked zones can be used to summon extra deck monsters. It doesn't say specifically only you can, it just says zones that are linked become zones extra deck monsters can be summoned into.

Links will either change nothing or slow the game down

its a good change for all non-physical players

So link cards also turn your opponent monster zone in an extra deck zone?

>>168611109
If they have arrows pointing that way yeah

>>168611067
>if you have X, you can do Y
I don't know, anon.
It kinda says that you need to have the Link monster.

>>168611109
If it has a link pointing to it, yup. Decode has one but its also tied to one of his effects.

>>168610146

ok i was wondering about reviving xyz monsters that went to the graveyard. my fav fun deck is Quantums and i think i will have to adjust the strategy on the deck now (using red lion more along with the trap card)

is there any reason/point in buying anything from rate and macr?

>>168611109
Not sure.

Reminder that Link monsters are ALL IN NO DEFENSE

>>168611016
How so?

so do we know what happens if you have extra monsters in linked slots and the link monster is destroyed?
do the no-longer-extra-slots destroy the monster in it or is it safe? i want to know how asshurt someone will get if i can chain reaction their board and watch everything die

S-so ghosttricks are fucked in the ass huh? Anything that relies a lot on the extra deck are fucked in the ass.

>>168610865
Kozmo

Odd Eyes Link Dragon, when?

>>168611375
Their text.

>>168610863
>>168610876
I really hope so
>>168610857
I would've gone with A

Also what happens if I summon Lord Omega into the EMZ and then have him use his eff and then place another ED Monster into the EMZ?

So can D Barrier call "Link"?

>>168611396
They're more fucked in that Link monsters can't be flipped facedown.

>>168611396
ghost tricks just need to get a few links then ferret out an entire field :^)

>>168611467
What's in the text?

>>168611529
Should work.

>>168611447
Last episode of Arc-V.

Link dimension suddenly invades and kills everybody while explaining the new superior summoning mechanic. It ends with Yuya holding his hand out while dying and whispering
>b..buy lin..k mon..ste...rssss....

>>168611390
you only need a linked zone to summon an extra deck monster from the extra deck
once its done you can either move your extra deck monster or do whatever with it

>>168611390
Logic, reading, and simple deduction said no.
But to fulfill your fantasy, no, we are not sure what will happen, yet.

>>168611529
Anon, you don't need to return Omega to the exact same place it's banished from.
That's the ruling since ancient times.

>>168610891
>>168610891
>2 earth monster

Hmm.

Activate Barrage
Pop Barrage
Make Rat
Rat overlay into Boar
Overlay into Tiger
Detach for Rat
Overlay into Broadbull
Detach for Rat
Detach to search for a MD Zoo
Overlay bull into Lyca
Lyca summons back any monster from grave

Send Lyca and the monster summoned back for Missus Radiant (Since Zoos are Earth)
Normal summon the searched Zoo
Overlay it and Rat for Daigusto
Daigusto detach rat and shuffle away 2 rats + 1 ED monster
Overlay rat on field for Hammerkong
Detach to summon Rat
Overlay Tigermortar
Attach Rat
Detach for another Rat
Overlay into Drancia
Use the two rats on the field to Link Up into a Link 4, Overlay into a 2Material Rank 4 or make another Link 2.


Thanks for the buff, Konami!

>>168611212
>>168611218
>>168611109
Can you stop saying "yes" to those questions until we have actual confirmation?

>>168611561
did you read the card?

>>168611579
>>168611602
B-but they were so cute.... I hate life.

>Q: If Special Summoned an Extra Deck Monster normally, and it goes to the Graveyard, and I want to Special Summon it with “Monster Reborn”, which Zone does it go to?
>A: It goes into the Main Monster Zone, not the Extra Monster Zone.

Does this mean you can bypass the arrow rule and use shit like monster reborn/coth to special ED monsters from the grave to any main monster zone spot? Mega Zaborg meta?

>>168611618
Yes, but thats beside the point. The thing is that I am controlling two ED monsters that were summoned from the Extra Deck. Its not a matter of the Zone itself.

>>168611693
No

>>168611616
Monster summoned from ED.

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>>168611736
Yes.

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>tfw you lived to see the day where pic related will be viable

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>>168611635
>Not
Yuya and Yuzu stand across each other on the duel field, this is the championship match, They both do the chant, they draw their cards, Shout "DUEL!" as the audience cheers and the camera pans up as the light from both Yuya and Yuzu's disks summon their pendulum scales.

>>168611736
>mega zarborg
not properly summoned at first

>>168611657
>Anon, you don't need to return Omega to the exact same place it's banished from.
>That's the ruling since ancient times.
Welp, Omega hand destruction cancer will still be a thing. Sounds great.

>>168611712
I'm half expecting them to bring in an errata on it.

Half because that would then be putting a floodgate on a floodgate

>>168611685
Like, just, fuck off? Please. Just fuck off.
Why the fuck does this summoning mechanic rape all the decks Im playing but the retarded fucking decks that really need to be put into place can just continue on?

Fuck off ok?

Whens the ygoPro update for this shit?

>>168611947
Next decade.

Who's ready for Blue-Eyes to win worlds again?

>>168611685
Does this work?

>Somewhere someone out dropped $200 on a deck with their Income Tax return
>Now this

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>Konami listened to my autistic hatred of players moving their monsters to different monster zones whenever they wanted.

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>>168611685
>overlay Tiger twice

I'd really hate to be a judge sorting through all the new rulings and dealing with "my card was totally in this zone not that one"

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>Hey look, now this card is only a Monster Reborn every turn
>This can't be possible, how Konami could kill Pendulums this hard?
Are Pendulum apologists serious?

>>168610865
chaos
noble knights
harpie swarm
lightsworn
spellbooks
monarchs
<insert ritual bs here>
kozmo
zodiacs thanks to Link monster placement

>>168612174
Did you read the article or are you just skimming thread?

>>168612286
>noble knights
Guys please it was just a joke
Stop repeating it

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>>168611814
if yu are thinking about targeting Link monsters with that or book of the moon. you can't

My question is once the next anime comes out after this, are they going to introduce ANOTHER new card type or ditch this link one?

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How long will it be before I can get some advice for a deck I'm building, once everyone has stopped being hysterical over the leaks?

>>168612460
Oh no, anon.

No, this is happening now. And there's nothing you can do.

>>168612114
Fug, time to reevaluate my combo

Or just wait for a Link 4 to come out/Links with generic effects.

Is Blasting Fuse relevant now that columns actually matter?

I imagine it may get an errata to include ALL cards in its column instead of just all 4.

This is so dumb
At least when xyz and pendulums were introduced you were still allowed to play your old deck just the same against the new bullshit.
Now you can either bow down to your new LINK overlords or you can be a cuck with only 1 zone to summon ED monsters in.
Just make yougioh exclusively pachinko machines and be done with it already you dumb fucking slants

>>168612460
even if it was a joke. they can be viable now because of the link system. the swords pretty much works almost in the same way as the link system

>>168612540
Uh yeah? We will keep getting more mechanics every 3 years.

>>168612554
It was just a response to all the retards who said "muh petdeck will be viable now"

If I see NK in the fucking meta at some point now I will have to kill myself.
If they get a LINK support I will kill Konami first.

>>168612546

A good month will do.

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>tfw I actually own the original 1st edition Secret Rare Dark Armed Dragon
>it's value might skyrocket soon

>>168612540
Anon. Synchro, XYZ, Pendulum and now Link.
We have repeated this shit 4 times.

What the fuck makes you think Konami would stop now?

Alright, I just played my last game as a YGO player, and I managed to end the game on turn 3 with Zarc as a tribute to the Pendulum era.
I can retire for good now. Thanks for everything, /dng/.

>>168612664
If they had simply implemented these restrictions on the Extra Deck and NOT introduced a new summoning mechanic to encourage it, do you think people would be as mad?

Is BLS a staple again?

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>>168609215
Good goyim! Buy blue cards and never breed!

>>168612540
Why contain it?

>>168612546
But anon, all advice will be useless once Link comes out, in a month or so.

>>168612664
But can play your old deck if you aren't ED scum.

>>168612664
I can continue playing my Infernoids just fine ;)

>all these people pretending their pet decks will be meta when we already have good decks that don't rely on the extra
stop being delusional. Master Peace is the new king of everything.

>>168611923
>

>At 1 in the OCG so the japs don't give a fuck.

>>168612836
good goy buy effect monsters
good goyim buy fusions
good goyim buy white cards
good goyim buy black cards
good goyim buy arrows cards

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>the tripfags are already drying up and shriveling
>mfw i actually like link and ran master peace.dik beforehand anyway
So this is what victory tastes like.

>>168612943
Im just going to pretend Master Peace doesnt exist.

>>168612776
>>168612713
>>168612856
Because at some point the mechanics will either conflict with each other or there will be too much. I asked about card types though, not exactly mechanics.

>>168612943
you can still Zoo combo too.

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>>168612742
Well, I'll try anyway.
I'm trying to build a Dinosaur deck with the new support without the True Kings, since that variant seems to be 'open Terraforming and Fossil Dig or die'.
My problem seems to be finding ways to destroy cards in the hand without Diagram.

>>168612835
he never left the stable card list

>>168613074
>Because at some point the mechanics will either conflict with each other or there will be too much.
And you think we haven't reached those yet?

>>168613074
>mechanics will either conflict with each other or there will be too much
What makes you believe that Konami cares about this?

>>168613131
>extra deck

>>168613074
pfft. passed that time long ago. we reached a point where the rules and card effects are conflicting with each other

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>>168613219
It's there as more of a novelty.

>>168613131
>ED without LINKs
Lmao go home

>>168612941
Infernoids disappeared from the map when Ghost Ash was released.

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>>168609659
>In other words, if you are using two Pendulum monsters as scales, you now only have 3 open spaces for other magic and trap cards. Likewise, if you are filling all 5 spaces with magic and trap cards, you have no space to place any Pendulum monsters as scales.
The fucking STATE of pendulum fags. Not only are they fucked by Anti-play fragrance but can only have 3 spell or trap if they have scales up.

>>168613458
Yeah but everything else got fucked even harder.
Except Rituals and Tribute I suppose

>>168613458
>can only have 3 spell or trap if they have scales up
Wow, it's fucking nothing.

>>168613458
But Pendulum decks can swarm the field easily and will have less trouble summoning Link monsters, so there's that.

>>168613397
I suppose this will be /dng/'s favorite meme from now on.

How are nips reacting to this? I'd be furious if i just got new xyz and synchri cards

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What if the same issue that killed column-based mechanics -- people rule-sharking due to cards being placed differently than their opponents on their game mat -- happens to Link monsters?

>>168613668
It was an honor to do the first shitpost of that kind.
*bows*

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>>168613458
This is pretty fair news for my guys, since I seldom use the Extra Deck with them anyway. And because I don't run much in the way of backrow, I'll survive.

>>168613651
It still depends on whether a Pendulum Monster summoned from the ED is an ED monster or not.

>>168613734
easier to just end the game then. ygo is pretty much rule-sharking the card game

>>168613734
>people rule-sharking

the only people scared of people who know the rules are cheaters

>>168613919
That article specifically lists the monsters that go in the Extra Deck Zone as Fusions, Synchros, Xyz, and Links.

who /cautiouslyoptimistic/ here

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>>168614064

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>>168614064
Present.

I'm honestly more curious if the MC of the new anime will pioneer or discover Links similar to how Yuya did with Pendulum, or if it will already be an established mechanic in-universe.

>>168614064
Me, can't wait

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Will Exodia stall be viable now?

>>168614249
Considering that the theme is "to not be afraid to learn new things" I would assume that its already an established mechanic.

>>168614249
>all of the MC's opponents can only summon one ED monster
top kek

>>168614037
>specifically
It was an example, most likely simplified to your simple mind.

>ED monsters not summoned summoned from the ED in fact aren't treated as ED monsters
>Thus ED monsters = monsters summoned from the ED
>NOOOOOO, Pendulum is an exception

>>168614064
I just want all Link monster in SD to be revealed so I can actually build deck.

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>>168614064
I am. Upset that Yusei.dek is dead but I still want to give Link Monsters a chance.

>>168614326
Can Exodia stall win against Master Peace? No? Oh sorry.

>>168614403
They've already been revealed. There's only 3.

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>>168614342
That's no different to how it's been in the past. More often than not duels are made up of just "turboing our ace monsters and smacking each other with them".

>>168614369
>ED monsters not summoned summoned from the ED in fact aren't treated as ED monsters
That, if anything, is an exception.
Because Q&A still refer to those monster as ED monster.

>>168614369
It's 2017 anon, why are you still scared of Pendulums? There's no need to clutch at straws.

CaC shows how nutty this can get.
>Psychic Armor Head
>Link 2 Bottom L+R
>0 ATK
>If this card is Link Summoned: You can Special Summon up to 2 "Armor" Monsters from your hand, Deck or Graveyard into your empty Link Zones.

>>168614468
No fucking way that's everything.
There's like, 20 slot left.
Or is it the one from CODU?

>>168614526
Konami didn't mention any exception.

Why are you assuming that there is an exception?

>>168614632
use numpad notation, it's much quicker to type

>>168614460
I didn't know Master Peace could counter an Exodia FTK. Oh, he can't? Sorry.

>>168614064
Trying to be, but I'm bothered that decks that don't use the ED as much, like rituals, can still play as if nothing ever happened.

>>168614064
I like the idea of Link Monsters but I feel like screwing with the rest of the Extra Deck monsters was unnecessary.

>>168614715
Konami also didn't mention monster summoned from ED.
Just ED monster, which is Synchro, Xyz, Fusion, and Link.

>>168609659
>Link Monsters can't go into DEF mode
>The Link Zones have outlines for DEF position
Foreshadowing DEF oriented Links. or some kind of sideways upgrade of the mechanic.

Wait, what about extra deck pendulum monsters? Holy shit are Pendulums just fucking DEAD now???

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>>168613694
;)

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now what?

>>168614769
I agree with this, they could have easily had link monsters that just affect whatever they're linked to and use their links as costs, they didn't need to fuck everything else over for it.

>>168614064
Like all mechanics, it's going to suck until it gets enough cards or pushed support.

I mourn the loss of some of my more masturbatory decks, but I think that Konami might be able to use these new limits to explore some interesting mechanics that may not have been viable before.

Or they'll just fuck up and print broken ones that splash into anything and we'll get Zoodiac 2: But This Time You Need Them To Do Anything Extra Deck Related Boogaloo.

>>168614769
They were going to restrict the Extra Deck regardless in an attempt to slow down the gamestate. But instead people are branding Links as being responsible for that change.

>>168614843
>Link Xyz

>>168614843
Or you know, the other ED monsters being summoned there.

>>168614843
The EMZ isn't just for links, regular Xyz/Synchro/Fusions can go there and subsequently go into def position.

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>>168614064
I'm a bit bummed that some of the decks I really enjoyed are all but dead but on the other hand it might mean that some of my slower decks like Ghostrick might be more viable

I'm going to wait and see

>>168614882
Why do I get so fucking pissed when I see harm to XYZ or Synchro cards? I mean with normal cards, I don't care if they get wrinkly and shit but XYZs and Synchros just seem too shiny to be damaged.

>>168614882
that's just one, how about the rest?

>>168614864
>not_this_shit_again_.tiff

>>168614883
I dont know what the fuck you are trying to convey. try again?

>>168609825
2 Things:

1) Decode Talker looks cool as fuck.
2) If you're not going to give Link Monsters DEF then you should have put the Link Number on the far left and the ATK on the far right. It looks clunky as hell with the adjacent differing fonts.

>>168614821
Congratulations, you just went full circle.

>>168614882
>those fingernails
around japs never relapse.

>>168615165
That's my intention, since you went full circle.

>>168612065
now we need extra deck monster what can move themselves to other monster zones

>>168614979
Whoops.

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>>168615285

>>168612778
sleep tight ygo

post fun decks that won't be affected by links
>monarchs
>kozmo

>>168615384
What tier will Psy Frames be after all the changes?

Honestly after a little bit of lamentation I realized as long as they either make archetype specific link monsters or make them easily searchable (assuming they're main deck mons and not extra deck mons) it may not the absolute death knell for the game.

It would still make the game a little longer and cripples a fuckton of decks by slamming the brakes on them and it may make monster removal more relevant again although i'm not sure what'd happen if you popped/spun/bounced a link monster in terms of the ED monsters sitting in the spaces (they could be sent to the grave which would hurt) and until we get link monsters with some kind of protection battle traps can partly become relevant again as well (not old shit like sakuretsu armor though).

All that can happen now is that we wait and see while we watch the nips complain to Konami and at for once the delay between OCG and TCG may be a good thing as you get to enjoy current yugioh longer than the nips do.

just how much shit does this stupid mechanic cause to stop working?

This is worse thought out than xyz and that's saying something

>xyz were literally supposed to be depowered synchros

>>168615467
Supreme True Metal Box

>>168614883
are you drunk?

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>>168615467
U.A.
I hope it gets new support since it fits the new cyberspace aesthetic so well

>>168615570
The easiest solution is to just buy Links :).
But really, they seem to be so generic it will simply be a matter of making one and then making ED plays as usual.

when doing battle do you have to attack the link monster first?

>>168615474
I have 0 idea but it has potential

>>168615507
Anon, Link is just a normal ED monster.
That means they go to graves if they get popped, and ED if they get spun/bounced.

You can also revive them using CotH and shit.

>>168615816
Not first, no.

>>168615816
Before attacking directly but I don't think before other monsters.

>>168615058
https://twitter.com/odt_1/status/832548956743692288

>>168615718
>so generic
until we start getting stuff like "linked cards can use their effect an additional once per turn" or "linked cards have their effects negated"

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Dark Magician decks are going to be fucking nuts in this format. I would stock up on its stuff sooner rather than later.

Just about every major play it makes doesn't require an extra deck at all. The only really uses one XYZ monster. So it could easily fit in the one space and or easily use one of the new link monsters.

>>168614843
Yeah just like the Pendulum Scale having a blue and a red side foreshadowed different pendulum scales right?

>>168610678
Monsters in the Extra Deck are Extra Deck monsters.

>>168615960
>Dark Magician decks are going to be fucking nuts in this format.
Why?

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Will Toons finally be viable?

>>168615384
if works in that way?

>>168615847
I mean what happens to the ED monsters that are in the 'opened' normal spaces that the link monsters allowed them to be summoned in.

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>>168615467

>>168616024
Yeah, anon.
Monsters in the Main Deck are Main Deck monsters.

>>168615705
Using tokens to summon Gaiasaber to create more ED zones.

>>168616060
you only need a linked zone to summon an extra deck monster
hell, there is a field spell, which moves link monsters

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Time to play Exodia!

>>168616087
Ghostrick was already kinda viable since they provide tribute fodder for Mega Zaborg into Zarc/Exterio combo.

>>168615940
what does the third option mean?

>>168616087
>Link monsters can't be flipped to face-down defense position
Good luck getting beaten down

>>168616043
They can easily banish every turn and swarm the field with high-level spell casters. Basically what a lot of the extra deck monsters did but within only the main deck.

These new rule changes are a massive indirect buff for it.

>>168615474

Same shit tier but Omega will probably jump 20 bucks in price should they rule it to work favorably with links.

>>168616190
it's "it makes no sense"

>the most basic link monster needs THREE separate fucking cards to make

>>168616054
That has been the way it works since ancient times.
Since that one Evilswarm that can banish itself to increase attack.

>>168616052
No.

>>168616207
Oh yeah that kind of sucks huh

>>168615943
Decode Talker can be made with ANY three effect monsters. And has a neat effect.

>>168616252
>links 2 monsters exist
>THREE

so how the hell are you supposed to play, say, crystrons with this?

you literally cannot make phoenix

>>168616252
Link Spider?
I hope we get more generic Link-1, but that might be impossible.

>>168616110
Exactly. And because they are Extra Deck Monsters. You can't summon them using illegitimate methods. As firmly stated in >>168610153.

>>168615570

>Depowered

>When laggia power creeped quasar in the second set,

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>really enjoying duel links
>the meta is wacky but its nice to go back to a slower format where vanilla beatsticks like two-headed king rex are great
>meanwhile the entire regular game is completely changed and shit is all wacky again
did konami make duel links to give everyone sick of the regular game something to play?

does this make QUANTUMs viable ?

>>168616404
Pendulum is a Main Deck monsters though.

>Gemini monsters linked to this card are treated as effect monsters and gain their effects

>Once per turn you can swap zones of this card with a monster it is linked to (even if it's an opponent's monster)

>OPT: When a S/T is activated in this card's Link Zones you can draw 1 card.

>All Linked Monsters you control gain 300 ATK for each Linked monster you control.

>>168616381
Yes you can you just need to have some links set up first for more ED spaces

>>168616453
They saw pokemon go and how much money in the nostalgia market is with smartphone games

>>168616252
that would be an issue years ago, but now we can spam monsters anyway

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Will he be a viable card again?

>>168616401
>Link-1
Where? You cant just summon a Link monster with 1 material. Not yet. Rules require there to be at least 2 monsters.

>>168616381
buy link monsters in the new booster packs ;)

>>168609215
I don't even know what the fuck is going on anymore.

>>168616491
fuck no you retard
do you even follow the sun

>>168616360
Link 2 monsters need 2 monsters and an ED slot. Then you can use a Link 2 and 1 monster. It's still 3 monsters until they make Instant Link.

>>168616550
Literally Link Spider

>>168616550
>least 2 monsters
not Link Spider

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>>168616550
Can't be arsed to copy the effect, just see it in ygorg.

So when you pendulum summon do you have to summon to the extra zone/link zone or do you just spam like normal?

>>168616550
Link Spider is a 1-link dummy. He requires a normal monster though

>>168615960
Not only does the deck have swarming potential, it also has regular banishment and full back row removal.

It has a incredible shot at being tier one right now

>>168616549
>Warrior Swarm and Warrior toolbox are back
I would love it
But no.

>never give Wyrms a decent reason to exist
>shit out CYBERS
why

>>168616680
Pendulum is MD monster.

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>>168616549
My girl is coming back :)

>>168616679
The fact that link has 4 letters rather than being abbreviated LNK like ATK is going to bother me forever

Screen cap this in less than a year we will have an ED monster with the following text. "If you control a "X" monster you can also special summon this monster into your Main Deck Monster Zone."

>>168616275
if the ED zone is being used it get back to other monster zone?

>>168616679
So if I can reduce the cost of LINKs by using another LINK doesn't that technically mean this needs no tributes as long as I have a Link on the field?

>>168616453
>having playing against rex+set 3
Uh yeah so much fun

>>168616562
nor does konami
let hope that since the jp are actually having a backlash for once that maybe konami will listen

>>168616503
Not when they're on the Extra Deck.

free E-Hero Airman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3TbasVqWoo

>>168616680
You will have to wait 1 month to find out.
By the Monster Reborn logic I'd say yes.

>>168616714
We can dream, anon.

>>168616804
Let me emphasis it, anon.
YOU CAN PLACE MONSTER RETURNED FROM BANISHED BY ITS EFFECT TO ANY MONSTER ZONE

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Sell all your cards cause the game is dead, nigga.

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>>168616679
Just now noticed the pattern on the card, dat's pretty cool.

>still no red cards
pls konami

>>168616784
True dracos are going to dominate anon.

TCG actually had a chance to make Subterrors viable with these new rule changes.

>>168616884

stratos should be released when the new rules come out, i wonder how much of the current ban list can be "shaved" down

>>168616803
there will be non-Link monsters and spells/traps, which will make MMZs linked Zones

>>168616826
It says "two or more" in its summoning condition, smartass.

>>168616883
Are you saying that Graveyard monsters exist?

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Stock up ;^)

>>168616784
its the NEWTYPE
get ready for Gyunei

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>The monster in your Extra Deck Zone cannot be Kaiju'd
Really?

>>168616826
Do you even understand how Link reduce the cost of summoning other Link?

So what's the best guide for making proxies? All I've got is card sleeves and a printer.

>>168617078
they can be kaijud, you dont have to summon them on the same zone as the tributed monster
unless every MMZ is preoccupied

>>168616997
Holy shit
Link Pendulum Monsters that go to the P Zone when destroyed.

I wonder if they're gonna release a new banlist taking a shitton of stuff off when the new rules are implemented.

Kind reminder to not forget to laugh at the idiots who bought ancient leafs because of some japanese egg on twitter.

>>168617078
>(((Main Deck))) monster can't go into the (((Extra Deck))) zone

What a fucking shock

>>168617024
A trap in the monster zone is a monster.
A monster in the pendulum zone is a spell.
A monster in the ED is a extra deck monster.

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>>168617078
just wait till the extra deck kaiju, KING KONG

>>168617006
Oh so LINK is just the number of Arrows really?

>>168617078
Really
Ultimate Falcon equipped with Mist Body is now invincible
Great game

>>168617031
>4
>all
>cant hit column with Link it in
>people are buying this shit

lmao@urlife

>>168617231
>Kaijew
holy shit it all makes sense now

>>168617250
Not by definition that they used in the articles though.

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So I hear the Jews finally decided to bury synchro for good. Guess my waifu will never be good again, so much for coming back.

>>168617156
Print on heavy cardstock. Yugioh cards are 3.25in by 2.25in.

>>168617228
also at the tyrano infinity

>>168617078
Of course they can
Unless their entire field is also full and the Kaiju has no place to go.

>>168617253
Is it bad that I'm really looking forward to that stupid movie?

>>168616936
Accel save us

>>168617364
>good again
>again
love this meme

>>168617352
There isn't any logic in the article, there's only an example.

>>168617265

>MST the body

>Swing with Lightning

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>>168616453
>Duel Links
>Links

Well played Konami

It's only a matter of times before all this shit is in there too anon. All the files for the newer shit exists. They are just getting the nostalgia fags (myself included) hooked first so they can slowly release it. Really being the highly regulated cardpool it is they can do it without fucking everything up. I actually really hate how good the game/meta is and that it is stuck behind a F2P wall.

>>168617262
No, it's also the number of material needed to summon it.

>>168617265
>pop mist body with TT/MST/ any other S/T removal
>make *unsheathes two blades* 'nothing personnel kiddo' and run over it
yeah using 3 cards to take down a 4 card combo sure is bad huh.
>run over it

>>168617280
>Reading comprehension
It clarifies that all can mean 4 so all you need are 4 cards and you can pop the whole column.

>>168617364
xyz is probably hit just about as hard if not harder

have fun with that mat-less castel blocking your ED summons

>>168617513
So the other anon is full of shit?