/domg/ - Dominions General

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=FrogAndToad

Two more toads and/or frogs.

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Tell me captain, if the Federation is so great, why are there no good dominion players?

This will be my first time playing with /domg/. What should I expect?

>>168337774
winning

>>168337774
losing

>>168337774
it depends

>>168337774
It depends

>>168337774
I don't know, maybe test it?

>>168337774
t. malakal

>>168337774
MEMES

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How do I invulnerable snek ladies, /domg/?

Luck build because this fat bastard amuses me but isn't actually necessary.

>>168339126
1) Heat 3 always
2) Growth 3 always
3) You probably want magic, both because you have 7RP S1 lab rat mages that you'll be spamming and because Luck/Magic go together nicely
4) You absolutely do not need prod 3. Patala expands with elephants. If you want to do a troop heavy strategy, odds are that your best units are going to be indy crossbows.
5) I get S6 for astral lategame, but what are you doing with E9? If you want a mage bless, you don't need the prot. You almost certainly don't want a naga bless, because nagas are bad. It can be fun to use their hypnotize attacks, but they're not resilient enough to try to use them as front line sacreds

>>168339339
>You almost certainly don't want a naga bless, because nagas are bad

Shame. I was hoping 22 prot 15 MR would be enough for Naga Warrior shenanigans, but alas. Back to the scales build, I suppose.

>>168340218
The problem is that crossbows are AP and nagas don't have shields.

>>168339339

All of your mages are sacred. All of them. Most of them have natural prot as well. E9's actually not a total waste, although I would probably pair it with N9 on an imprisoned Bull, personally.

Have Arco and Ur destroyed eachother and Birds taken over their territories yet?

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>>168336956
Just FYI, Magic boosting guide is kill along with desura :(

>>168344998
it's not, gimme a sec

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>>168344998
>>168345042
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1guUcu_b1jTKzYZ3vNWIrENioLqlIFvDFVzlfhQEt6CI/edit

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>implying you need arms to fire bows

>>168345676
Bows seem to count as intrinsic weapons.

>>168345225
Ty very much! How vital is magic boosting to enjoying Dominions BTW? Cause it honestly seems a bit skeevy to me, as a new player.

Thanks again!

Is mictlan from MADman avaible to talk ? maybe in 9 hours, i am going to sleep now

>>168347909
Its generally pretty important. Whats so skeevy about it?

>>168347909
Most nations can't reach endgame spells without boosters.

>>168348214
It just seems like something that wasn't intended by the developers to be a thing, kind of manipulative, that kind of skeevy I guess

>>168344998
>>168345042
>>168345225

It's also hosted here

http://www.moddb.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/dom4-magic-path-booster-guide-by-telos

>>168350140
>It just seems like something that wasn't intended by the developers to be a thing
What? Its been in at least two games and the items explicitly say they boost magical power, they clearly meant for it.

>>168350140
>>168350269
Like shit, there are items whos only function is to boost magic.

turns when

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>have to script a communion from scratch

turnfiendgame when. As long as it's fun I'll do my turns.

>>168353382

You realise you can use ctrl+0-9 to copy orders, right?

>>168353434
>turnfiendgame
Uh, what?

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>>168353829
wat

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=FrogAndToad
join gaem

>>168354724

Yep. Copies the order you have mouseovered. Then it's 0-9 for pasting. There's also a ? hotkey that'll give you the keys for whatever screen you're on.

This shit should probably be in the OP somewhere.

>>168354741
serious question, what's with the megumin spam? Is this really just because one player liked her?

>>168355193

There is no cure against weeb cancer

>>168354505

Guessing he means like NEETonly. That had, what was it, a 12 hour turn timer?

>>168355193
It proved to be quite effective at luring people into joining games.

>>168355259
16h, IIRC.

>>168355167
That and pressing Y to view armies marching from different provinces into the same battle on the same screen were seriously game changers when I figured them out. Reduces the tedium of the game by a huge amount.

>>168355921
And g to find a province number.

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This is pretty weird. I have a fort but can't recruit national troops or mages.

>>168356706

wtf that's so helpful, I've been manually searching for provinces by trying to follow its internal grid system

>>168357071
I know right? I had like 150 hours on the game before someone told me.

>>168356954
Because all of Ys's units are either underwater or coastal recruits.

>>168356954
What nation is that? some of the UW nations only get national land troops on coastal land forts, they dont get shit inland.

>>168357225

Oh. Didn't know they were all exclusively coastal recruit.

>>168355473
It got exactly one player

Which items let the one whom wears it to command magical beings?
Tried to find it but with no luck.

>>168359186
Fairly sure LightAle admin was spamming anime pictures as well, and it filled up pretty fast.

>>168359443
Crown of Command

>>168359443
Crown of Command

>>168359443
Look at water bottles and such

>>168359443
Crown of Command

>>168359443
search for 'ldr-m' property in the inspector

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Utgard has staled two times in a row. If this coming turn is also a stale, I will try to find a sub.
Disappointing because Utgard himself is a sub.

>>168365826
Have you tried bringing in a dom?

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Gath play turn. The anticipation in waiting to see how my expansion is going makes my benis hard. Now I need results.

>>168365962
No, this is a noob game.

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EVERYBODY TELL ME YOUR MOST INNOVATIVE STRAT THAT HAS WORKED
AND EVEN SOME THAT HAVENT BUT WERE CLOSE

>>168369428
I have never once done an innovative strategy.

>>168369428
I have never once had a strategy that worked.

>>168369428
Rudolph went down in history lmao

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pd is not a joke

>>168369428
I have managed to fuck up reliable cookie cutter strategies like expanding with the Erf Snek, so all bets are off when it comes to making my own.

>>168350652
What I find skeevy isn't boosting magic, it's using items in a chain-like fashion like the ones mentioned in the guide that I feel might not have been originally intended. It's fine if it's the meta now, but I kinda doubt these really complex and crazy chains of item building were intended by the developer. Feel free to correct me though!

>>168380961
Look, I know we disparage Shillwinter's coding skills a lot around here but I'm not sure you're going to get much traction with implying that they're literally retarded.

>>168380961
Those are definitely intended. There are many national spells that cannot be cast without multiple boosts.

Fuck I just had an idea to fix Dominions 5 an hour ago but I seem to have mostly forgotten it.

Something along the lines of making Dominion significantly more expensive in points cost but also adding more effects to the spread of Dominion. At the moment it only works as a combat buff, scale tipper and a barrier against being domkilled. I'd like it if having a rival faith infiltrate your territory actually felt like zealous opposition within your own ranks. And at the moment awe only really works like a good shield. A real pretender with 10 Dom should be exploding the brains of anything non-sacred that dares to look at it or something. Obviously that would be unbalanced but in a game called Dominions it doesn't feel quite right that Dominion is a feature you can easily skimp on to win. IRL Jesus won the Dominion war pretty hard without an army. He didn't even throw a punch. This game needs defections or something.

>>168383737
>lets make anything other than awake dom10 monsters shit
lol, ok

>>168383929
I had this a lot more thought out earlier. I can't really imagine now how you'd balance lower dom pretenders. I did say 'significantly more expensive' though. My thinking is maybe that rather than bless/scales the choice could be made more interesting with bless/scales/superdom. The idea is basically an SC that doesn't need a pile of buffs and equipment to be awesome. Except to get this SC awake you have to take gimped scales and magic. As it is Dom doesn't feel that useful aside from serving as another layer of protection on an awake expander.

>>168369428
using midget mashers instead of vine shields+brands on giant thugs

there's not a whole lot of situations you really want to be killier instead of more survivable but it's a good option for saving gems if you have the paths for it

>>168384190

there are plenty of advantages to having a high dom, and i think you're drastically underestimating the usefulness of your scales being spread (look at niefel, yomi), domininion effects (ma c'tis, ma agartha, ermor, though i do admit i wish there were more interesting ones), the ability to recruit a ton of sacreds and of course having the edge in dominion spreading (domkilling, not dying from domkilling).

Awe is mediocre, but this is an awful way to fix that. As well, the more candles in a province, the more hp/str/mr/etc your pretender/prophet get. the higher dom you have, the easier it is to get more candles.

Also IRL Jesus hasn't won shit. Far as I can tell, there are still plenty of other IRL faiths out there.

>>168369428
Step 1: recruit death 2 mages
Step 2 : Research ench 5
Step 3: Spam horde of skeletons
Step 4: win

>>168369428
I like focusing on quantity over quality when it comes to magic items. I'd rather see half a dozen thugs kitted out with 1 or 2 items than one thug with 5 or 6

Step 1: Play Abysia
Step 2: Cast Fire Storm

>>168369428
Step 1: Play Caelum
Step 2: Research Thunder Strike
Step 3: Spam Thunder Strike

>>168369428
Step 1: Research Conjuring 5
Step 2: Spam Elementals

>>168369428
As marverni, stellar cascade spam
As marverni, boar spam

But AT THE SAME TIME

Step 1: Recruit/Summon units with darkvision. (Including Undead)
Step 2: Cast Solar Eclipse, Darkness or Utterdark

As Mictlan, run between one and three major blesses

>>168387610
Isn't storm one level higher than thunder strike?

>>168388210
Sure, if you want to spend a turn casting storm and having everyone cast storm power.

Step 1: Play Xibalba
Step 2: Spam Warriors
Step 3: Capture cave + forest provinces
Step 4: Spam even more Zotz
Step 5: Implode cause all you've been doing for 30 turns is building Zotz

Step 1: Recruit Fire 1 Earth 1 mages
Step 2: Spam Magma Bolts
Step 3: Make Earth Boots
Step 4: Finish with Earthquake or Magma Eruption

Step 1: Take lots of low level chaff/ garbage troops
Step 2: Cast Fog Warriors or Army of Gold/Lead

Alternatively

Step 1: Recruit shitloads of archers
Step 2: Cast Flaming Arrows

Step 1: Play MA Ulm
Step 2: Take Drain 3 Prod 3

Works well with

Step 1: Take Master Alchemist
Step 2: Make Dwarven Hammers
Step 3: Spam Owl Quills

Step 1: Take Erf Snek
Step 2: Cast Fire Shield

>>168390139
>Step 1: Take Master Alchemist
MEH

>>168390370
Thats really only cause you don't have the correct gems. otherwise you'll need to convert them at a 4 to 1 ratio or to barter for them with other players.

>>168387254

step 2.5 rename all mages "mr. bones"

>>168390946
the ride never ends

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>>168391052

>>168390930
Master Alchemist doesn't do what you think it does.

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>>168391215
I want to get off Mrs. Bones Wild Ride.

>>168388901
sounds like xibalba in a game i'm in

>tfw prod bats

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>>168316569

It was me, being sneaky, with gems from arco's deathbasket. I'm curious, did you overcast that? Cause I overcast the dispel a bit, not sure if I wasted gems.

>>168315557

Doesn't throne of studying give you a 'grand librarian' with +8 inspiring researcher? Thrones.dm is full of bugs and terrible balance decisions. I get the basic idea, but it needs less jokes and memes and more actual effort. The attrition from neverending memes I can tolerate, even when it kills a guy I needed to make a temple or even in the middle of making that temple losing me 400 gold. The gamebreakingly stupid stuff because joeks I can't.

>>168315030

Fair enough. Won't ask anyone to play if they're not having fun, and with so many AIs there'd be no point anyway.

Anyone want to take a look at my turn file? http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=132622

You'll have to add the '_' between late and jomon manually, it seems to have eated it.

>>168397542

I got all those big gem stockpiles from Arco, by the way, and was working on spending them. I swear I spend my gems properly.

>>168388540

Caelum doesn't exactly have massable A3. In EA and LA it gets it on cap onlys, and in MA the A3 dudes are StR.

It can get a decent amount, but for proper spam you do need Storm and Stormpower. Quite apart from anything else Thunderstrike's 50 fatigue. You kinda need A4 to cast it more than a couple times anyway.

>>168398339

Who isn't using storm if they're spamming air elementals and tstrikes, and they have recruitable a3 to put up the storm? Idiots? Why do we care about idiots?

>>168398673

I prefer using a Staff of Storms, personally. Saves you a mage turn, means you don't have to dick around with cast orders, and prevents getting turn1 fliered before you can put Storm up on the offensive.

>>168398768

A fine option if you have those sorts of air gems lying around. I like Banner of light of the north star for the same reason.

Game: FrogAndToad
Middle Age, max 9 players
Players so far: 9

>>168355193
qt Andre loves Megumin

>>168366619
>for once in my life everyone else sent his first turn 12 hours after game started
>this time I'm the faggot who makes them all wait
S-sorry guys

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The demon locust spell must be one of the most underwhelming spells I have ever seen.

>>168400140

What did you even expect? It summons heretical locusts to dom kill enemy not to actually fight him.

That having said locusts are decent troops.

>>168400346
I kind of expected them to hide in the province like a monster boar. Or at least for there to be more of them considering how much they cost.

Also the bats cast it not me.

>>168400504

They kill certain types of thugs and reduce dominion real fast if you don't/can't kill them off quickly. You combo it with heavy blood sac strategies, you don't use it to fight armies.

Sub needed for a pretty powerful Yomi in the RP game.

>>168400627
Good thing the bats cast it in the wrong place then. By the way does anyone know whats going on in this game? I presume everyone is being dominated by the mictlan/bat alliance but it must be pretty bad if mictlan can afford to keep 650 guys on my cap doing nothing all game.

Oh and also if anyone wants me to forge any level 4 shit with Lanka paths just tell me what you want and send me the gems. I dont have much else to do besides trying to avoid getting domkilled.

tfw the Xilbalba in your game completely fucks up

>>168397542
If I remember it right, I used about 100-120 fire gems on it. So not really overcasted.

It's +5 inspiring researcher, and it's great, but I had a sage province since year 1 and I'm recruiting slow to recruit mages, so I don't get that much profit of it.
Also I have to move the librarians around the world, which was annoying. Still, 600g for a librarian and not my most favourite throne in the mod.


Also
>deathbasketing
Moat please.

Also I liked Cold Ragha a lot until Second Sun was casted and I couldn't get my mages, that felt like a direct counter to my strategy.

However A3 slow to recruit mages weren't as useful as I thought: you can't get enough of them to make the storm + thunderstrike research goal that good, and they feel a bit wasteful with it anyway.
But they are without a doubt better and more versatile than Ragha's abysian mages.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/un1856eynxt6d2u/late_ragha.trn?dl=0

This one is my turn, I had almsot full blood and recently found a Blood30 throne, so things were going to get a bit bloody.
I had a monster research thanks to the sages and librarians and was about to get alt9 soon too (I wanted to research it to fight Arco, but since he went AI I prefered to get Blood8 before.
Also, Ulm. Why didn't you get Illfather yet? I summoned him like last turn bing almost sure that you had it already.

>tfw you notice a single letter out of place that you cant fix without erasing a paragraph of shit
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Jesus Christ why does it have to be so awkward?

>>168357071
>>168357145
even okofire knew that!

>>168403208
Prove it.

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>>168404898

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>>168405292
>ywn be tutored by okofire

>>168405292
Thats a shop, I can tell by the pixels.

>>168405416
It hurts doesnt it
It is a case of bad gimp editing
But you can believe your alt facts if you want to

DED
E E
DED

bats

>>168410469
bats would bring life to the thread
lots of life

>>168369428
using fire bottles to make E1F1 random mages for EA ulm useful, by summoning small fire elementals that were then buffed with iron skin.
They were like disposable little thugs.

Also, making lots of skeletons as sceleria/ermor.

how many people do i need for stellar cascade spam to be effective?

>>168412302
IT DEPENDS

on how many troops the enemy has and whether or not they've used howl

>>168412302
It depends
BUT generally, a dozen S2 mages will put 40-50 normal size 2 units to sleep without too much trouble. Will also depend on how fast the units are, whether they're flying, whether they have reinvigoration or not, and so on.

>>168412420
well, putting 40 dudes to sleep is on par with high level evos. Definitely a thing to consider.

If an immortal caster casts a global and is then "killed" in Dominion, does that dispell the global like if the caster was killed for real?

>>168413338
No

>>168413338
I dont think they actually count as being killed unless they die outside their dominion. They dont show up as casualties when killed inside their dominion.

>>168413338
Yes

>>168413456
Awesome, looks like-

>>168413492
Damnit, which one of you fucks is lying?

>>168413464
They don't for some purposes (pretenders don't lose paths) but not for others (items get dropped).

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>>168413456
>>168413492

>domg

>>168401489

>that much profit of it

You know inspiring researcher and the 'skilled researcher' bonus stack, right. I've been scrabbling for every last RP and you've been casually ignoring ragha's major weakness. You bastard.

At least you went Cold Ragha, though, instead of the herpderp zhayedans option.

>Second Sun

That's funny as fuck. Hilarious, Second Sun actually doing something? Hah.

If you had 120 fire gems in it (80 + 40 overcast) I pretty much nailed the dispel amount. I was going to put up Vengeance I think, and then try to dompush to make time to outproduce you with green lions and oni generals, and push your forces with buffed xbow/elemental/firestorm hordes. I dunno, something along those lines. Ulm was struggling a lot and didn't seem like a major threat, although getting into his lands with scouts to check was hard due to all the wolves patrolling everywhere. I imagine his vampire counts blotted out the sun.

>>168413914
All I wanted was the rebate on my sacreds. Second Sun seems like a bit of a waste without it.

>>168413456
>>168413492
Maybe

>>168414856
I considered packing 100 green lions and some mages and send them though Arco and Caelum not get you.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>168415031
Try it, nerd. Best Rome will stand forever.

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>running out of ideas for my P&P campaign
>open up mod inspector
>load events
>start reading everything

Don't mind me Illwinter, just pirating these ideas. I'll give them back later, maybe.

>>168415248
Good man.

>>168415248
>stealing ideas from a game that stole the ideas from Illfraud's tabletop DnD campaigns that stole ideas from mythology
Doing god's work.

I need the Donald Trump Caelum pasta. Please help.

is Shimmering fields effective, or it's not good enough?

What's preferable: Doom or Battle Fortune?

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>tfw no turns

>>168415497
______________________________________________________________________________________________IT DEPENDS YOU FUCKING IDIOT ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS NEXT TIME

>>168415565
Why you do this to me?

Where? Image search is leading me nowhere

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>>168415248
I use Dominions all the damn time.
I play on roll20 too, so I'm also constantly stealing their sprites or making them out of spritegen.

>>168415728
http://mangafox.me/manga/yuusha_sama_yukagen_wa_ikaga_desu_ka/

>>168415668
how the hell can I be more specific in asking whether luck or cursed in combat?

>>168415767
I'm totally going to steal your idea of stealing sprites.

>>168415767

That looks fun as fuck, anon. Are you playing DnD: Japan or L5R?

>>168415881

Because it depends hugely on everything, you fucking idiot. That you think it is binary makes any answer anyone could give you pointless.

>>168415497
Luck is severely nerfed in dom4, but is still useful en masse, especially in late-game battles where a single mage surviving RoS will make a big difference.

Mass curse is not that great, considering you want to actually win the battle. If you want to cripple the army before the battle though it can be useful, as it increases the affliction chance, so just combo it with wind of death (because when units decay they get to old age and get afflictions, so even if they don't die curse increases the chance of them getting diseased or worse) and/or bane venom charm in the province with cursed units. Also good with army clear like RoS.

Shimmering fields is a great spell that is hard to use because it has short range and a risk of damaging your own units. And you need a lot of air to cast it.If you have air queens you can always command them to cast it in round 1 and then stay behind the troops to fly to the rear of your army.

>>168415881
Are you fighting giants, or other units with high HP? Doom would be nice to decrease their combat effectiveness and help to kill them.

Are you using hordes of chaff? Luck'd be nice to increase their survivability, but it would be much less useful when you're using tough units or massed undead.

>>168415817
I was expecting something lewder, but thanks a lot anyway, anon.

>>168415920
Seriously tons of quality sprites in the game, plus you can steal em from mods to get a bunch of other things.

>>168415921
Savage Worlds: Japan

There's a lot of overlap between /domg/ and /tg/, isn't there?

Don't suppose any of y'all have some experience with Degenesis? Considering mucking about with it after my exams.

>>168416731
The only experience I had was reading the books. It's not like I can find people who would know about it and agree to play it. And I don't play on rolld20 anymore.

>>168416731
overlap is in this order

/tg/ -> granstat4x -> /co/

>>168416256
>>168416280
from what i've read backwards is better

lucking up your giants (because aoe of 5 is very small) would be more effective while cursing enemy armies is better if they have big numbers

I'll take your word for Shimmering field. Seems like a mass lighting bolt spam.

On a second question, marble warriors gives a net prot gain right? how much does it give?

>>168416256
>Mass curse is not that great, considering you want to actually win the battle.
It's super useful, actually, because affliction chance includes things like lopping arms off and chopping off their heads. If their soldiers are cursed and yours aren't, your guys will have a lot easier time in the melee. I'm not sure how I'd rate it in terms of equivalent attack/defense buff, but it is very noticeable.

>>168417546
>aoe of 5
I was talking about Will of the Fates. Never used Luck in any of my games in 2,5 years of MP because S1 dudes have more important things to do on the battlefield. Why use shit spell when even body ethereal is better.

Marble warriors give a stoneskin effect, and if you don't know what it means and how prot bonuses work, read the fucking manual.

>>168417546
Yes, Shimmering Fields is sort of like firing of 150 lightning bolts or so.

>>168417758
Never played Dom 3 then? Back then luck was so good that a pendant of luck was standard thug/SC gear.

>>168417823
>Never played Dom 3 then?
How about you stop being retarded? I was referring to Dom4 MP, obviously.

>>168417176
The fuck is granstat4x

/co/ is for virgin losers n-not like me

There's definitely some overlap with /lit/, and probably other boards too.

>>168417932
>The fuck is granstat4x
kys

>>168417823
>2,5 years
>never played Dom 3
Instead of asking stupid fucking questions, why not look up the answers yourself?

>>168417823
But what does that have to do with anything

>>168417961
Fine, but not because you told me to.

Wait a minute. Am I arguing with Rejakor again?

Hey guys, I'd already told the game to start a few times over the past few hours, but Llamaserver's not responding atm. It should be starting at some point.

>>168417794
stoneskin, noted, thanks

>>168417932
/domg/'s mere presence has gotten a lot of grand strategy and 4x genre fans interested in dominions. i'd argue fans of fantasy care more about the game, which is why there's /tg/ and /co/ overlap, but a lot of people are attracted by map painting elements too

>>168400140

Demonic Locusts are so bullshit in CoE4.

>>168418271
And those people are playing the game wrong, and must be purged.

>>168417546
I hope you do realize that you can look it all up in the inspector, right?

>>168418061
Fun past game trivia?

>>168417884
>>168418003
S-sorry

>>168418393
Hellhounds too.

>>168415356

They were Earthdawn campaigns, not D&D.

>>168418518
Please do not have any more "fun" in this general. Thanks.

>>168418415
It's possible to read the effect of a spell and not be so sure how it works in practice. For instance, it's easy to think that Flame Storm is a great spell - massive range, massive AoE, scaling AP damage - but by the time you're casting it, your enemies are putting up armies of gold, making it MUCH less impressive than the armor negating Niefel Flames

>>168418594
A worse DnD with horrors from shadowrun then ;^)

>>168418652
Well, thank you for pointing that out. The original post was asking about the exact effect of the spell though, so at the end of the day everything you said is pretty irrelevant.

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>>168418598

>>168418808
>is Shimmering fields effective, or it's not good enough?

>What's preferable: Doom or Battle Fortune?

>>168418808
Passive aggression is not welcome here. Instead, consider aggression.

>>168418905
>On a second question, marble warriors gives a net prot gain right? how much does it give?

>>168418942
Thanks, and fuck you.

>>168418674
>A worse DnD
Is such a thing possible?

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>>168419012
Pathfinder.

DnD 4e.

FATAL

>>168418518
Phrase fun trivia in a non-confrontational way maybe. If it sounds like you're trying to make an argument with it, people will get annoyed because it's not an argument.

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>>168417176
>>168416731
>No one's trying to be a little girl
>No one's shitting up the place with light /d/ shit
>Hardly any BDSM
I know this game tends to run queer but it'll never be /tg/ queer.

>>168419127
>Phrase fun trivia in a non-confrontational way maybe.
4chan is pretty sensitive.

>>168419169
I wish to be the little nagini

>>168419192
I mean, you don't have to. But there's lots of people who like to argue so if arguments are gonna make you do an anime stutter, then maybe don't look like you want to debate.

>>168419070
4e did nothing wrong but fix the mistakes of 3.5

>>168419379
By gutting what was good about it and making a PnP experience an offline MMO.

>>168419169
We're all too preoccupied with our own sacrificial virgins.
>>168419454
3e did that and you know it.

>>168419454
>>>/tg/ c. 2010

>>168419513
>>168419454
>>168419379
>>168419070
it's like i'm really on 2010 /tg/

Interest poll - a game where everyone must run an awake human chassis. Players aren't required to run a rainbow, but they must take a pretender with 10 cost additional paths and it must be awake

>>168419637
How will you prove they really pick it? I guess you can do steam signups.

>>168419615
Pathfinder didn't exist yet.

>>168419454

Remember back when 3.0 was a fucking bullshit Diabloclone that gutted the spirit of the game and was designed to bring in obnoxious videogamer kiddies?

Good times, good times. 5e is pretty good so far, at least.

>>168419676
Steam signups and/or forcibly set anyone AI that violates the rule

>>168419728
It didn't but edition wars did. What's your point?

>>168419637

Was in onea those a couple years back back. FreakyCronesAndScrubs. It's a pretty neat idea, although if memory serves FreakyCrones had a "No Major Bless" rule as well.

>>168419868
You think the major bless rule mattered?
I wanted to allow for F10 Archwizards

>>168419743
Yep.

Well, I managed to successfully run most of dem editions, and I consider 5e the best introductory DnD by far. Even with my rose-tinted 2e glasses on.

>>168419637
Are liches and vamp queens humans? Because B9 vamp queen sounds delicious.

>>168419958

Much the same. Although I'd say 2nd had many of the same issues as 3.x with the splatbook creep towards the end there. OD&D or 5th is the way to go for new players.

>>168419743
3.0 was a fucking bullshit Diabloclone that gutted the spirit of the game and brought in obnoxious videogamer kiddies

>>168420031
They don't have 10 cost paths, anon. Vamp queen could maybe be allowed for being an acceptable waifu

>>168420136

I'd say the easiest way to go is just "Dom1 chassis only"

>>168420031
>B9 vamp queen
>>168419948
> F10 Archwizard

Sounds like what we really need is a game where everyone makes their waifu their pretender

>>168420237
>Dom1 chassis only
Why stop there? Why not ban spending design points on Dominion, so that it's strictly a dom1 game?

>>168420398
dom1 chassis
awake
no domscore spenditure allowed
no prhophets
no UW
no temples

>>168420136
doesn't 3e predate diablo by nearly a decade

>>168420567
>no items
>foxes only
>final destination

>>168420682
Diablo was 1996. 3E was 2000

>>168420840
huh

RIP llama

>>168423486
??

>>168423841
he's dead. Car crash this morning. Maerlande reported it.

>>168423929
rippip may he claim the thrones of heaven

>>168423929
Citation needed.

>>168400903
Arco just ate Yomi

Formoria and Niefel are still going at it, with Formoria finally pushing the two SCs off his cap

Bats just attacked me with about 400+ units

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Where is the new turn faggots?

>Will someone set Abysia to AI already?

>>168426513
Is llama even working right now?

>>168425754
Well at least you are doing better than me. You need any level 4 shit forged?

>>168426821
Well the turn was already due so I guess it isn't?

>>168426821
>>168423486
>>168418203

>>168411148
zots of life

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why is thread so ded

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>>168434109
I for one have been too busy getting back into my Atlantis mod to post.

So

I want to make a mod pretender

i'm reading the manual, but I'd honestly like to have my hand held

hey berytos from newyearsnovices, yomi from autisticrp and I think a driftking nation have stalled all at the same time and never returned. I think something happened RL and they need subs

>>168426513
Fuck off you already won.
I'm not even sure why we're still playing.

>>168434109
Dead llama.

HAY GUYS BLITZ IN VANHEIM

>>168434958
I was going to give you a template but I can't seem to make it work.

Have you had any luck with your guy?

can anyone share their serial key or a pirated version that works? All I wanna do really is play hotseat but I have lost all the links to the newer versions and 4.03b is shit.

please anons help me out.

>>168441498
Just buy it. Totally, 100% serious on this.

>>168441715
fuck you I make 300 euros a month and that's a good wage here, I literally don't have the money.

>>168440638
i'm still reading the manual. weapons and armor seem pretty straightforward, taking a break and reading monsters next

>>168441498
The game is literally a steal considering you can play thousands of hours.
14 bucks on G2A if 20 bucks are too much.

>>168443130

Figuratively a steal. It's only literally a steal if he's mugging someone for a boxed copy.

>>168444645
You literally BTFO'd him, good job anon.

>>168444645
>>168444728
You figuratively have autism.

>>168444867

I'm literally posting in /domg/. I have no idea why this would come as a surprise.

>>168441498
their coding and system is so retarded they accidentally found a way to make the game impossible to pirate in all the ways that matter

all pirated copies must proceed from someone who bought the game, as you can only play multi player from a buy given CD key tag. otherwise it's impossible to play mp.

>>168441963
Copying code from other modders and then modifying it really helped me figure out a lot of the basics.

>>168441916

https://discord.gg/hfeFz

Join this, message Not-Lola. I have some spare keys specifically for people who get fucked by the currency difference.

>>168446912
Its really quite easy when you get down to it. As long as you arent trying to make spells or something.

>>168441916

Man that sucks. I know prices are adjusted in your country to cope with such wages, but it makes international trade like this hard af.

Any advice for a newbie playing ma ulm

>>168447931
Spam mage smiths and have them cast magma eruption

>>168448503
Don't I need the a1 levitate rings so I don't kill myself with it.

>>168448579
You are thinking of earthquake.

>>168448648
We'll I'll give that a shot then anything to do with my non mages I'm currently going a pike with mace/shield combo for Frontline and an hoping to make an iron angel as my stc but I have no idea what to eqip it with

>>168449534
Dunno, I wasn't the first guy. I never even played MA Ulm.

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>>168418203
It started. Posting pretender memes.

>>168450885
>!timer

Alright which one of you fuckers is it

>>168434684
FUCKING FINISH IT ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEE

>>168451232
Told you I'm lazy. I'm going to finish up the king and queen and call it a day.
I almost put it off to try and make a reverse Abysia nation.

>>168451428
Well, I look forward to staring at the sprites.

>>168451006
!me

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>>168452364
There are better sprites out there to stare at. You could always go to Dom3mods to see some actual good sprites.

>>168452656
Well yes, but they don't have WW2 Atlantis.

WISE FWOM YOUR GWAVE

>Several games from Llama host

>Skeletonwars still ded.

What's the spelll that gives mass heat/fire resistance?

>>168457149
Just like this thread.

>>168462441
Fire fend? Or warriors of niefelheim?

>>168462650
Is there a way to search for that buff in the inspector?

>>168463074
Yes
Put "fire fend" in the name.

>>168463296
But how do I search for everything that gives "Bless/Buff: Fire Resistance"?

>>168369428
Spamming Flame Jellies as Abysia when I had an underwater war to win.
They're actually really good for how cheap you get them, as long as you've got a mage to buff them so they have non-0 protection.

>>168463476
It has something to do with Effect = 10 and Damage = 1024.

Welcome to the wild fucking world of Dom4 spell modding, where the manual doesn't tell you all the spell effects and actually literally really for serious says, "There are many other values that can be used, but these are the only documented ones for now. There are more complete lists in fan-made documentation."

http://www.moddb.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/effects-and-their-attributes

and

http://www.moddb.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/spells-and-their-attributes

look like they'll have more information but I don't really want to dig into all that right now.

>>168369428
stockpiling wraith kings for UNLIMITED GHOST WORKS
I'd mostly credit my victory to having far more death gems than I knew what to do with though

>that feel when you drop 400RP because you need to send out your battlemages

>>168451006
It's my favorite spaniard

I want to marry Kate Micucci!

>>168469676
She's ugly, though. Unless you mean the modder. He's cool

>>168469676

Didn't her name used to be Kate Minucci?

>>168471230
why would you think that?

post you're favorite EA builds and nations and research goals

>>168472227

Minucci sounds more like a real last name.

>>168473717
>'re
Maverni, Evo5 for early game, Alt5 for mid/late game.
Therodos Alt1 for easy ghost king expansion.
Mictlan Con

>>168474998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C6CzEEKaXQ

>>168476068

Terrible singing voice

hi
is this game fun
thanks

>>168476885
hi
yes
np

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>>168477021

Um!

>>168477878
Do turns Moggers

Could I get a 2ish hour extension on Winter Race War? It's hosting right about when I'll be waking up and I'm not done with my turn yet. I'm going to sleep now but since nobody else has turned their turn is I'm hoping you'll have to see this sometime before I stale.

I'll get the next turn done as soon as it comes in.

Got a new computer, looking to install dom4 on it.
Newest torrent I could find was 4.03b, anyone have a torrent for the latest patch or at least 4.20?

>>168482439
>torrent

>>168482439
Nobody plays pirated versions because you can't play MP (which is the only reason this game is still popular), and the torrent is like 2 years old.

>>168482439
You know you can just get an updated copy from Steam or GoG right?

Yeah, I suppose I'm not entitled to a pirated copy of the latest version... I just assumed there would be one.

As for getting it off gog or steam... yeah never actually purchased it before, and I can't really consider it a good use of my money at the moment.

actually hold on, I never bought it, but I did have a friend who bought the desura version. I see they're no more, anyway to redeem it on steam or gog?

>>168482814
The key is in the game files, just open "dom4key" in a text editor and copy that into Steam.

>>168483061
fuck yeah! I'll have to boot up my old computer and see if it's there. But that'll wait for tomorrow.

Thanks for the tip! Very excited to see people are actually playing this game, when I played dom 2 years ago, there wasn't really any community to speak of. Maybe I'll be joining you all soon.

>>168483285
Yeah, the community got big during the dom 3 era. Nowadays you can find communities in several languages each bigger than the whole community was in dom 2.

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>>168480739
I tossed an extra 12 on this turn because breakfast is the most important meal of the day.

>>168340398
This guy has no idea. Check patala's pretenders first.

>>168340289
I'm pretty sure armored nagas have shields, who is giving these advice?
They are bad because 5 head prot and mediocre combat stats for their gold cost.

>>168486885
>shields
Bucklers, IIRC.

>>168383737
For one idea, how about more benefits/detriments to dominion in combat. The current morale +1/-1 effect basically doesn't matter.

>>168387165
Another thing you forgot to mention is global enchantments which affect based on dominion.

I disagree with you about the advanatages of having a high dom, though. The cost just isn't worth it past 7.

You're not going to push into enemy dominion without tons of temples (especially if they preach), and with tons of temples you'd have gained dom strength anyway, so 7 dominion would be just as good as 10.

>>168413338
>>168413587
There's a chance your guy can get feebleminded, which will dispel the global enchantment even if immortal heals it.

>>168487458
But barring that it should be fine? That seems generally improbable, so for a gemgen I don't mind risking it.

>>168487553
I don't think so, but haven't tested it.

Feeblemind is what I was told when I asked why my immortal caster lost a global when he died.

>>168487858
I've got a few turns until I need to know anyway, I guess I'll test it. Tomorrow, maybe. Busy writing up my longest single battle-less blog turn ever.

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>>168486401

Uh. What about them?

>>168487181
>bad shields is the same as no shields
Japan would kill to have bad shields.

Are flame jellies good? Statistically, they look solid as fuck for how many you get per gem.

>>168491718
Aquatic only, shit attack, protection 0.
What do you need them for?

>>168493476
Maybe he has tons of fire gems by no water for underwater expansion.

>>168491718
They look good to me too (especially if you have a good fire mage), but I've never had a situation where I'd be able to make use of them.

>>168493476
>shit attack
Doesn't matter, their only attack doesn't check defense.

>protection 0
They're also resistant to the majority of weapons which are used underwater, though. Anything which hits them also damages itself on their fire shield.

>>168494410

Resistance helps, but it's not really a big deal on anything below Prot 10. Anything below that is taking damage from every hit anyway, so getting whittled down is just a matter of time, and Flame Jellies have no regen and only 25 HP. Shit'll die in two rounds to Triton Troopers, and can't kill one square of them in two rounds (although they'll probably die of poison a couple rounds after that). Remember that Fire Shield's contingent on weapon length used to hit it.

>>168493476
Possibly good for MA Atlantis.

>>168494410
>Doesn't matter, their only attack doesn't check defense.
Where does it say that?
>They're also resistant to the majority of weapons which are used underwater, though.
Half damage with 0 protection still means they will be taking lots of unavoidable damage every turn.
>Anything which hits them also damages itself on their fire shield.
I guess.

Might be a good choice if you need some blockers UW and UW is heavily contested.

>>168495567

It's AoE 1. No defence check on AoE attacks.

>>168495659
Ah, true that.

>>168495349
>>168495567
Fair enough, I guess you'd want barkskin before fighting with them, unless your enemy is fielding high-value troops which are worth losing 2-3 jellies per kill.

>>168496008

Yeah. They're not completely useless, and they ARE a very efficient summon, but you'll need troop buffs before they're particularly useful.

Were it any other gem type, I'd probably be saying they're not worth it, but with Fire you've got few things to use it on.

>>168495567

Flame Jellies rock face. They clear chaff, take buffs really well, block like nobody's business, and are cheap. An easy buy.

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Give me an innovative awake Yomi pretender that isn't the rock snake

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stupid thread stop dying im out of funny pics

Last chance for anyone to take over Yomi. Setting them AI after this turn.

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>>168497635
Seems to work well enough.
Got an affliction in a big indie province though.

Balls to the wall mode:
E9Dom9 Freak Lord

>>168499103
Thanks, will test it out.
Those scales are horrible though

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>tfw all games only need a couple more turns before they tick over but I need to sleep soon

>>168499402
>Those scales are INNOVATIVE though.
FTFY

What's the best gear for an A2 wind lord thug?

>>168500741
Jellybeard.

Uh... I thought we were finishing the game so I didn't send my turn.

Should I have done it?

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I don't really know how to feel.

Supayas couldn't damage it because of her high MR, but after 30 turns of nothing happening and HoS from my Hurin priest, the Supayas routed and the skeletons stacked around them attacked the enchanter at the same time, died and killed the enchantress

>>168499067
Whats Yomi been using anyway?

>>168502537
No idea, haven't been near him. He was doing pretty well recently and that's all I know.

>>168503486
He's got EBDW up and a lot of land. A lot of people are using less than optimal builds too, so no need to really worry

>>168504207
Also he writes snake erotica

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Well this is where I think I'll stop for now. Not happy with the king and queen but I couldn't think of much to do with them that I was actually capable of. I'll start doing up stats now.

Buying:
Fire booster
Pearls

Selling:
Astral boosters
Hammers
Water boosters
Death boosters
Fire gems
Water gems

>>168507406
It looks pretty neat.

Is this comparable to the WW2 nations or its own thing?

>>168508712
I tried to make it like the other WW2 things but its probably going be a bit different. Atlantians are probably going to have heavier armor on average because most of them are wearing diving suits and they are probably going to be better at melee because they are bigger and most of their shit is poisoned, but they are going to be weaker at range because they have spearguns and regular guns are coastal recruits.

The first sub is their equivalent of the field artillery and gives the bombardment ability but because it obviously cant leave the water and is a big machine instead of some guys with a cannon it is stronger in actual combat and can ram shit when it runs out of torpedoes.

They also dont have flags for boosting morale because I dont think flags would really work UW and also because I cant be bothered to draw them but they do all get some dark vision and poison resistance.

>>168509428
Also probably going to be better at thugging since Kings and Queens are big beefy mages.