/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #471

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BFFs, Pirates, Partners in Time & Crime & In Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA

>>167482192
I sincerely mean this: Max did nothing wrong.
She was given that power and she still used it mostly to help others.
She is allowed to be happy and think about her own needs for once at the end. And nobody can criticize or demonize her for it.

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When Joyce and David are out of the house, we all know what Chloe and Max do.

Hop like rabbits!

>>167482870
K8 is gr8

>>167482918
Pricefield is best field

Christ how are these threads still going

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The Partners in Time continue their adventures!!!



> Chloe and Max don't return to Arcadia Bay when Blackwell re-opens, but stay in Portland.
> Kate Marsh contacts Max when she doesn't come back.
> "I'm with my girlfriend in Portland."
> Kate spurns the "devil worshiping hedonists."
> Without high school degrees, they don't find jobs.
> They end up living in Chloe's truck.
> After a few stints in prison, they seek help from their parents.
> Max's parents, mad at her for wasting their money by ditching private school, won't let her stay with Chloe and bring her back to Seattle
> Max's parents blame Chloe for Max's bad behavior and prevent her from contacting Chloe
> Chloe is abandoned once again.
> Joyce, a conservative southern woman, and David, a traditional Republican, send Chloe to conversion therapy in return for paying her debts.
> Kate suggests a clinic run by her church.
> Chloe is raped by multiple male orderlies each day to ungay her.
> Max wakes up.
> "Wowsers. What a horrible dream. Good thing I sacrificed that blue haired dyke to save the town."
> Goes down the hall to suck Warren's morning wood.

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Max is #1

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>>167483302
Because Chloe is her number one model

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>Storm is about to destroy town and take away my family and friends
>"WAAAHHH! It's not my fault! I did nothing wrong! Everything's all about me!"
>What about me? What about what my life's ambitions? What about my sisters?
>"What about you, Kate?"
From the bottom of my heart, fuck you /lisg/ and fuck you Max.

>>167482828
>Not Brokeback Mountain edition

One job anon

>>167483343
Chloe does appear in some of Max's works (Which gains her some notability among Max's fans, who know she's the photographer's wife)
But anything like that (or lewder) is reserved for Max's private albums. Not publicly shown or published.

>>167483193
Anon, come on. The first time it was posted it was actually kind of funny and original by bait standards. But it's amusement factor wears out every time it's posted. If you're gonna post bait then try to come up with something new.

Friendly reminder to ignore stale copypasta, shitposting, bait, and imposters.

Stay comfy! (^ ^)/

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>>167483076
Hopping is fun!

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>Joyce winning the supporting girl contest so far
That's actually a nice change. Glad I helped with that. She deserves more credit.
Even though she and Chloe had their differences in the past, I strongly believe they would get closer and be more understanding to the others situation. Even Chloe and David would learn to get along.
Nearly losing each other in the storm would really bring the realization how close they were to their family being torn apart. It would be a wakeup call that they need to talk, respect each other, and just give a proper chance.

>>167483051
To be fair, most Bay-pickers don't do that.

It is obvious that Max used her powers not only for good and for others instead of the selfish and evil shit the majority would use them for, but she used them actually thinking - and being justified in that thinking - that they were given to her to prevent the storm, and throughout also given no reasons to believe they are actually causing it (no matter what she does with her powers, even in a reality where she'd never discovered them, the storm is coming).

Even if Max caused the storm, which is not evidenced in the game, she is not responsible or to blame. Basing the ending choice on that would be tragically blind and absurd in more than one sense. The ending choice as I see it can only have meaning if it is made free from any such guilt and blame and feeling of obligation, gets one of its primary meanings for both characters and the narrative precisely by breaking with that self-blame and self-doubt. The most meaningful choice for the player (and the character) can be one they feel is right, even if only as a gut-feeling rather than a strong emotional motivation, because of the relation to characters and narrative. Arguments and interpretations are the most meaningful when they tie into that emotional and sentimental quality of it, and outside of that, should in my opinion primarily deal with narrative reasons, not logic or morals or any other boring out-of-narrative consideration that you're better off reading existing scientifical and philosophical debate on, than apply to such a narrative that deals with characters authentically and sentimentally, not as a science-fiction thriller or trolley dilemma simulator.

And I just can't see a greater motivation for such impossible choices, for such human choices, than love. And it's a great love here, one the narrative revolves all around. Thus, it is its proper conclusion to me, that it prevails in the end once more, above all. Among other reasons.

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What is everyday life like in coastal PNW small towns anyway?

>>167481293
I dig.

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>>167482828
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget

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>As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding
>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them
>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death..."
>Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."
>"What? No, fuck that. Lisa, you're my number one priority, I'm not eating you!"
>"Alice, think about it... how many times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny."
>"Lisa, I can't make this choice!"
>"No Alice, you're the only one who can"

>eat Lisa
https://instaud.io/kVV

>eat your own foot
https://instaud.io/kWb

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>friendly reminder that turning off your game is the confirmed canon ending

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>>167482870

>>167485283
Tradition goes a long way...

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>>167485283

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Brooke loves of you

>>167485508
We love Brooke.

>>167485469
=kek

>>167482828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD4hSJybyCY

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>>167485283
My family are not racists! Stop slandering them.

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>>167483170
As them, we are everlasting.

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>>167486912
That cheeky buttgrab though.

>>167487080
Can you blame her?

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>>167488139
Nope.

Besides, she's saved her ass so many times, she basically owns it now. She can pat and tap it whenever she so desires!

And that desire is mutual.

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>>167485283
She's just celebrating Easter and Jesus' resurrection with her senpai!

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>>167483076
You did it!

Would you tickle Max until she begs for mercy?

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>>167491721
If I were Chloe, totally.

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*muffled laughter*

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Good night everyone.

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>>167493091
Wrong cutepic.

>>167493845
Sleep very well.

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>>167494443
>The irrational tragedy started with lisa
>"haha :), I'll let them guess how much they should water the plant, even though it's knowledge they should obviously have"
>"it was definitely a scripting error that caused that information to be omitted, not me giving you a taste of my idiotic world view, haha ;)"

>>167494925
HeHE!

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Literally did nothing wrong

>>167497120
fuck off michel

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>>167483302
You know who else is #1?

Me.

I was kidding, dork. That's you! That's right, you are also #1.

Max is .5 and Chloe is .5
But put them together and you get 1!

>>167497120
>Crap teacher
>Crap photographer
>Crap villain
F-, see me after class.

Is Brooke excited for any upcoming games?

I bet she'd love the new Zelda game.

>>167505848
Brooke's dead

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>>167482828
>friendly reminder that you will never know what the VA cast truly believes because michel stands behind them in every interview

>>167503518
Is that from the fanfic?

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>>167506035
She flew everyone to safety ok.

>>167508292
I will forever be amazed how much Chloe grew on me.
I'm sorry I ever doubted you! <3

>>167510690

yep,
which was inspired by this masterpiece:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apr60Dh0BXE

>>167481492
>like saying it's a silly teenage crush Max will be glad to have left behind
Hey now. I never said she was glad to leave it behind. She's on the older side of her teenage years and more capable of discerning her emotions from hormonal impulses, but there's no guarantee it isn't a relationship fueled by nostalgia, early hormonal desires and the stress of dealing with near death experiences. With the exception of time travel, LiS operates in a real world setting. It's fair to expect the usual success rates for teenage romances and relationships formed from traumatic experiences. The romantic in me says Max and Chloe would make it, but the realist gives them a 70/30 chance.

>For how butthurt you like to make others out to be, I only very rarely see anti-Bay shitposting of that kind.
First off...
>Hurr durr, idiots say Max is a murderer.
>Only faggots--like the lesbian protagonists--call Max a terrorist
>There's no justification for the Bay ending.
Secondly, I'm not shit-posting. I'm voicing a fact based opinion. Degrading it as shitposting proves that many Baesiders are butthurt.

>I agree that the logical inconsistency is a lame way to look at the ending decision in.
Here's where we disagree. My own interpretation is that the storm wasn't caused by Max and that there was a way to save Chloe without sacrificing Arcadia Bay. But, those aren't the rules that the creative team laid out nor the options. The artists decided to go with the ending choice. As it is their work, I respect that decision, regardless of my personal feelings.

Part of the reason it's polarizing is because of the emotions tied to the final decision. That's an achievement worthy of commendation.

>>167490684
Mission accomplished.

>>167483534
Normally I'm paid for my writing. Cough up some cash and I'll do it. Otherwise, you'll just have to wait for inspiration to strike.

>>167514393
>I'm posting things based on facts
>Where no facts about this topic exists
lolno
You're just parroting what the game says when the game itself cannot support its own claims.
"I'm right because I say so". That don't fly when it comes to proving a point or voicing an argument.

Many here have already just said "fuck what the writer and directors intended" and we are [perfectly right to do so. Their word is not the word of god when what they say or show makes no sense and contradicts itself.
As far as I am concerned, Dontnod are players to the game just like you or I. Nothing more and nothing less. Their explanation of things is a theory that was not proven because of how many things were left unaddressed.
Just as what is posted here are theories of hypothetical world-building. The difference is the theories here have consistency and pay attention to the details, their theories are a jumbled mess that do not arrive at the supposed conclusion.

>>167483449
>implying Max did not convince Chloe to become a SuicideGirl to further her photography career

>>167483841
She's an underrated character. Joyce lost her husband, raised an emotionally damaged daughter on her own while working a shitjob. She's an EverdayHero if there is one.

>>167484736
Boring and economically depressed since responsible environmental reforms have crippled the logging and fishing industry: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ff-trump-nation-oregon-20160502-story.html

>>167492078
Nice use of the studded belt. +10 punk points.

>>167501746
It makes me uncomfortable seeing Max in Rachel's clothing. It's another reminder that Chloe is holding onto the idea of Ms. Amber, even though she was something of a placeholder for Max. That's another reason to question the long term viability of their relationship.

>>167513254
Interesting backstory. Wasn't aware of the inspiration. I'm not a fan of quasi indie-folk-pop, but it fits the tone of the video game. I'll listen to the songs from the soundtrack once in awhile outside of the game because of their association.

>>167515013
>Where no facts about this topic exists
>No facts about teen pregnancy, suicide, LGBT issues, drug use, prostitution or abnormal psychology exist.
You voted for the Donald, didn't you?

>Many here have already just said "fuck what the writer and directors intended" and we are [perfectly right to do so.
If you ever learn to write, I hope your work is treated with the same disrespect.

>>167482139
>At the end of the day you're still going to be stuck with a story that isn't very well thought out.
Sad, but true. Most of the evidence points to the Prescotts summoning the storm, but why would they call the bunker "StormBreaker"? Is it because it will save those inside from the storm or break Max and stop her from causing it?

>>167515397
Good job bringing politics up where it does not apply. As well as comparing fantasy to real life. Not biting that hook so you can just reel it back in.

If I ever learned to write, I would ensure the story made sense from start to finish.
I don't disrespect that they wrote, I criticize the parts I feel the messed up on and since they told me to fill in the blanks with my own thoughts, I have done so.
I have no obligation to believe what they were suggesting because they did not convince me. They are entitled to their views on the story and its intricacies and I am entitled to mine. Neither is correct.

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"Welcome to Two Whales. *mutters* (best food you can get in this shit town) Whaddya want?"
ONLY Max is allowed answer "you" to that question.

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>>167517431
I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.

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>>167517431
ILL HAVVA

>>167517994
>>167518028
Oh fuck

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>>167517431
I'll have the fish tacos in the women's bathroom on your break.

>>167517994
>>167518028
"Dude. What the shit? We don't even have a drive-thru. Get your busta ass outta here."

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>>167517431
I'll take a Double Triple Bossy Deluxe on a raft, 4x4 animal style, extra shingles with a shimmy and a squeeze, light axle grease; make it cry, burn it, and let it swim.

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>based Christian Divine

>>167519572
Christian and Luc have been the only voices of reason from Dontnod.
I'd like to think Christian was using his ability as dialogue/journal writer to point out how ridiculous the story was getting.

>>167517431
Bacon omelette AND Belgian waffle. A carafe of water with that.

If they were real and I were there, I would genuinely tip her a five-figure sum. Tell her to take Max somewhere nice that night and ditch the waitress gig for good.

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>>167521209
>carafe
>pretentious parchment letters

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>>167521910
>>167522140
>not Pricefield

REWIND THIS!!!!

>>167520038
See, I don't really get this attitude.

It wasn't just a case of a borked ending, the entire structure of the final episode (and in retrospect, quite a lot of the game) is just kinda broken.

There's a massive split between the murder-mystery stuff and the supernatural stuff, with neither having any actual relation to each other; there is literally zero resolution to the supernatural stuff, with the developers all-but admitting they didn't even know how it all worked and fudged the rules in sections; the murder-mystery stuff turned out almost as setup at the very start of Episode 1 (hue Nathan is the bad guy responsible for Rachel's disappearance), with very little in the way of any interesting red herrings or ulterior motives, with the Jefferson twist (and Jefferson's character subsequently degrading into a "hue I'm actually a cartoon psycho") showing up out of nowhere without any reasonable setup, and with too much of the actual "plot" and investigationing being shoved into a single episode for no real reason; etc.

The point is, we're praising them about which of the two -broken- endings they personally decided on. But the fact remains that it's a choice which is sitting on top of a structure that is fundamentally broken ... and -all of them- are responsible, in some way, for it being that way.

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>>167522140

>>167521209
You're a good person, Anon.
She's only doing that job for a little bit of money and also to help/hang out with her mom.

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>>167522453
>tattoo on the left hand
triggered

>>167522194
>Maximum Victory and Marshfield now get the same response as if they were Warryn pairings
For fuck's sake, this general has become uncomfy.

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>>167522194
One Pricefield delivery.
Sign here, please. X________

To be honest, I like the art in those few images. But I strongly dislike the pairings. At least in a romantic sense.
Rachel and Chloe would be friends (But any feelings they shared were canonically one-way) and Max and Victoria wouldd have some form of friendship and friendly rivalry.

>>167523016
>even hostile towards anything else involving Max/Chloe, and it's not going to change
Complete and utter horseshit. I've been here right since the beginning and it was never like this back in 2015. Fuck off with your revisionist crap.

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Pricefield and Chasemarsh double date!

Chloe getting drinks for herself and Max, and Kate waiting for Vic to show up. And of course Max brought her camera to snap snots of anything that caught her eye.

>>167482828
My life has already been turned into a simulation. How creepy.

>>167522648
>To be honest, I like the art in those few images. But I strongly dislike the pairings.
Same. The artwork is decent, but the idea of Chloe staying with Rachel after her deception is unfounded. Victoria and Max share common interests, but treat fellow human beings with a much different level of respect. Chase was complicit, at the least, in Marsh's drugging. Pairing Victoria with Kate gets me worse than other pairings.

>>167523329
Right back at you
You're delusional if you don't think /lisg/ has always been pro-pricefield
Arguments only started once people starting insulting that or saying stupid shit like "Max deserves better than some druggy" or whatever other nonsense lines were said

>>167523649
>You're delusional if you don't think /lisg/ has always been pro-pricefield
Stop shifting the goalposts. I never claimed we weren't pro-pricefield. You said the general was actively hostile to anything else period. I know for a fact that it wasn't.

>>167515043
I could imagine Chloe writing a letter to her mother, detailing her feelings and how she felt her mother did wrong. It probably sits unsent on her desk.

>>167523550
I can forgive the past and appreciate the potential of Kate and Victoria. Yeah, Vicky was a major bitch and did some really terrible things. But she really didn't know Kate was drugged involuntarily. She thought it was either Kate willingly taking drugs or just drinking too much, which would paint her (in Vic's mind) as a hypocrite. Once she realizes the truth, and sees how bad Kate gets to the point of trying to kill herself, she instantly stops and realizes she's been terrible. It doesn't forgive her previous actions, but she can overpower her bad past with a nicer future so she can say "I'm not like that anymore"

Victoria herself says that she's only a bully because she's grown up where competition is the norm and you have to be dirty to get ahead. Her parents don't seem to care much about her unless she distinguishes herself, so Victoria always tries to be ahead and in the spotlight and will do anything to get there.
It may be farfecthed but I'd like to think Kate forgiving her would put them onto a path of friendship where Victoria learns being nice isn't a weakness. And meeting Kate's family would show her what a family is supposed to be (Minus the more fundamentalist elements of the Marsh family).
Victoria will not do a complete 180 and be some bubbly and always nice girl, but she will learn to lower her guard (Much like the effect Max has on Chloe) and not present some tough and ruthless facade as her default.

But I can understand why some would not be able to look past what Victoria has done, especially when it directly involves Kate. But I see it as if Kate can actually forgive her, and if Victoria can realize her flaws and faults, they have a chance at at least being friends.

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>>167524045
The next time Joyce and Chloe see each other after the storm they are going to have a long conversation and both end up in tears.
At some point they take a day alone, without David or Max, to just spend as mother and daughter to visit William. I don't think either has done that in a while and to do so together would let them speak their feelings.

>>167523016
>Regardless, /lisg/ has ALWAYS been majority Pricefield ...

Sure, but that's not a hard sell given that they're both the main characters, and it's arguably the only proper "canon" relationship the main character can kinda get into.

> ... and even hostile towards anything else involving Max/Chloe, and it's not going to change.

What? No we haven't. We've had a long history of support for some of the comfy crackships, especially Maximum Victory and Marshfield. We went through periods waiting excitedly for new pages of certain Maximum Victory fan art comics, for example. Nobody has ever been (seriously) hostile to these ships on /lisg/.

>>167525150
Exactly. Back in 2015 Chinchilla's drawings got posted a ton and no one screeched at them because they weren't Pricefield. The general was often excited to see new pictures by the artist.

>>167525150
Hell, I remember when we were fawning over ideas for a Chloe x Kate ship, with Kate ultimately being a good influence on Chloe, and Chloe managing to bring out a bit more of Kate's wild side. We wrote a number of short green text stories around this idea, and nobody got mad about it.

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My point was missed because I worded it very poorly, so I deleted the post so I didn't start even more a shit-storm.

/lisg/ has always been a majority Pricefield. But some have never liked seeing other pairings involving Max or Chloe. I'm one of them because I try to look at things from the game's perspective and respect who the characters are and what they want- I love Pricefield and cannot fathom the idea of them being with anyone else. I don't flip out when I see people posting Marshfield or Maximum Victory. I just don't partake in it. A few people in a very small minority try to start some kind of argument by posting rude comments and insulting the pairing/ its supporters. I try not to be like that.

I won't discuss the topic further. Post what you want (As long as it's not something disgusting/ ignoring the entire game like Max/Warren, Max/Nathan, Max/Jeffershit- I think we can all agree on that), and I will post what I want (primarily Pricefield). If we like each others idea then great, if not then we agree to disagree and not engage in flamewars with each other. As has been in the spirit of /lisg/.

>>167525469
That ship is more like a raft and has approximately one follower and it consists of the same few images and copypastas

I would not say it has a following here

If anything it is posted to try to flare people up because someone has been trying to perpetuate a competition between Chloe and Kate and they think pairing them together will anger both camps

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>>167526057

>>167526057
>I would not say it has a following here
Who said it has a "following"? We thought it was fun, we gossiped about our headcanons and wrote a few greentext stories. I'm not even sure we were ever posting Pricemarsh fanart at the time.

This is the problem, you're talking about these "relationships" as if they're super cereal business and we can only post about them if we absolutely 100% think these characters should get together. Or something. In reality, we're just casually shipping and gossiping and *having fun*.

The picture in >>167526329 actually came long after the Pricemarsh greentexting I was talking about too, it wasn't just trying-to-get-a-rise shitposting. I'd know, because I was participating.

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>>167527026
I think at least some of the pictures predate the greenposting. And it's not like any more than a few tumblr artists know about our general.

>>167527734
I don't doubt that, given everyone was getting shipped to everyone else from pretty early on, Pricemarsh images existed prior to the particular spell of Pricemash cuteposting I'm thinking of. But I don't recall anyone posting any such fanart at the time with our green texts.

Regardless, that's not my point at all. My point is that we were doing it for fun, for *cuteposting*. We weren't just doing it to get a rise out of people. Nor was the Marshfield posting, nor was the Maximum Victory posting, hell, nor was the BabbiesAU posting. /lisg/ was never hostile to any of this, and most of these were actively supported throughout most (all?) of /lisg/'s history. This is why a few of us are confused about your posts, given that /lisg/ has a long history of supporting cuteposting of all kinds.

Just so long as it doesn't involve Warren. :^)

>>167528638
>nor was the BabbiesAU posting
That was cute. I'm surprised anyone else still remembers that though.

>>167524675
Sort of on the topic of the Price family, I wrote a post-bay (something I wanted to hypothetically explore) fiction, and I think the ending was quite relevant to her issues.

1/2.

"Many had suggested a memorial be erected in Arcadia, and her birthplace might also have served as an appropriate location to scatter her ashes. Scattering Chloe on her myth-making junkyard would have been a kind of rough justice and literal irony; for the first time, she would sleep there.

But instead, Max scattered her friend's ashes into McLane Creek, and they dissolved and floated downstream. In many ways, this was a fitting resting place. Chloe had found her solace in this popular hook-up location, and many hours with Rachel had etched it into Arcadia's wistful comments about a girl who had died that had visited here. These rumours would outlive Chloe Price and even her darkest demons.

There was another larger piece of fate, and a nugget of history that bonded this particular plot of water and earth and air with these mortal remains; just over the hill, less than a mile away, the source of McLane Creek and all the streams in the area, was the small range of mountains known as the Black Hills.

>>167524675
>>167529060

It was here, years ago, where a young family would go sledding after the first cold snap. They would drive their Camaro down the two-lane road, past the tiny logging town of Porter, up a funny little hill called Fuzzy Top Mountains. In the car was a mom, a dad., and a little six-year-old girl with the same ethereal blue eyes as her mother. The girl loved nothing more in the world than sledding with her family, and during the drive from Aberdeen she would implore her father to drive faster because she couldn't stand to wait. When the Camaro would come to a stop near the summit of Fuzzy Top, the girl would dash out, grab her Flexible Flyer sled, take a running start down the mountain, and race as if her flight alone could somehow stop time. At the bottom of the hill, she would wave her mitten-covered hand at her family, and a wide, warm smile would come over her face, her blue eyes sparkling in the winter sun."

>>167529274
*Arcadia, not Aberdeen, kek.

>>167529060
>>167529274
>Chloe
>Dead
Sorry. Not interested in the slightest. Especially since I cannot at all see Max, Joyce, or David surviving that loss.

>>167525150
>tfw novamouse was still witing life is triangular, and it was described as the official fanfic for this general, even though it was Maximum Victory
>also life is triangular when?

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>Meanwhile on the rooftop of their Seattle apartment

>>167530015
As I said, it was just hypothetical.

I wrote it soon after watching the bay ending on YouTube. It was kind of a vent piece, to be honest.

I understand., I couldn't read anything about it after watching the ending, I was devastated and pissed.

>>167530271
Huh. Didn't even realize that it's a Marriott hotel.
Scratch that.
>Meanwhile on the roof of their hotel they snuck out onto, during a trip for Max winning another contest

>>167530287
As am I. Which is why I refuse to give any timeline after that ending even a bit of thought.
Though I've found one fic, Catharsis, which has caught my eye and been kind of interesting since it's going to involve Max snapping and saving Chloe again. Because of the guilt and pain Max is feeling and because, surprise, surprise, letting Chloe die didn't fix the storm.

>>167530782
>I refuse to give any timeline after that ending even a bit of thought unless it's exactly how I imagine it

That defeats the purpose of fanfiction, in my opinion. I read fanfiction to explore ideas I don't agree with or hadn't thought of. I suppose if you consider a non-breakdown post-bay to be out of the bounds of reason, which is perfectly understandable, it would seem as unrealistic as Warrencuck fiction.

I haven't read that, but I will now.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zQtYmFCb0

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>>167530271
Then a terrorist crashes a plane haha :)

>>167531234
I tried thinking about the post-bay ending after the game when I started to doubt my choice about saving Chloe. I realized it would not have been a better choice.
It would just destroy the characters I had come to love and care about. Maybe it's just my mind trying to find more evidence to support my choice, but I do not see anything good coming from Chloe dying.
I would have infinitely preferred a truly good ending and that's why I like to think after the storm Max went back to an earlier point in the week to try to warn some more people. Or at least convince them to go to places that would be safer. So that she's saved Chloe, and achieved her biggest priority, but she also helps others. Of course that's after even seeing and knowing how bad the storm truly was, which it may not have been.

>>167531709
I think a good dilemma could have been interesting, and I'm against a perfect "everyone happy" ending, because that's boring and not in the spirit of the game.

That being said, there's no reason why an "everyone happy" ending isn't possible within the confines of the time travel logic, which is why trying to insert a dilemma here was stupid. If some alterations were made, it could at least made more sense.

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>>167531493
>tragedy post
Damn it michel.

>>167532190
A good dilemma, yes. Or like what many people thought where the choices made throughout the game would add up to an ending. Which is how Vampyr is alleged to work.

But if it's a "pick your tragedy" then it's not fitting to the game or its characters because Max would not settle for that. She would save Chloe as a start and once that's secured she would work to see what else she could get.
That's still not a happy ending because people still die, Max cannot save Rachel (or cannot do so while guaranteeing things do not end up worse), and many characters have gone through terrible things.

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Pricefield 4EVER
No guilt or regrets

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>>167531493
They try. And then two mysterious fluffy strangers fly on board and stop them.

Max and Chloe are nice guys.

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>>167522271
>There's a massive split between the murder-mystery stuff and the supernatural stuff, with neither having any actual relation to each other;
Furthermore, neither of those things have any particular relationship to the coming of age themes either. Max finding confidence in herself isn't explored through investigating Rachel Amber's disappearance, nor is her relationship to Chloe any more interesting because of her powers. It's like if Holden Caulfeild was occasionally possessed by Cole Phelps and Doctor Strange. Just an issue of the writers letting their pop culture influences become far to prevalent.

>>167522593
>tfw Date is never posted

>>167531493
The only Michel post to ever make me laugh, good stuff.

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>>167533276
>Fond of Wardmarsh
Wait a minute....Mr. Goodman, are you LNA?

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>>167533169
Nice girls*
And yes, they are.

Time to sit down, eat tons of junkfood, and try to watch the game.
Stay comfy /lisg/!

>>167533694
NICE GUYS. IT SOUNDS FUNNIER.

>the game

Normie.

Have fun, though.

>>167532190
They could have ended it on a more mundane note, unrelated to time-travel. Chloe decides she has to leave Arcadia Bay (she can't take David's shit anymore, and with Rachel gone she decides to follow through on her plan to get out).

Max is given the choice to whether to carry on with school, but that risks being separated from Chloe again, and with that they might just drift apart like last time. The alternative is for Max to jump in the truck with Chloe, forgo her formal education (or at least put it on hold) and drive off into the sunset together.

She takes everything she's learned in her supernatural adventures and applies it to a mundane, but still very important decision.

No time travel, no bs tornado, no contrived tragedy. Just someone making an informed choice that will strongly influence their future. Which feels like it might fit the general brief of the game.

>>167533276
Why does Dana randomly pick up other students and carry them around?

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>>167533661
Defiantly not

>>167534051
It's good for morale.

I loved this game but Jefferson's reason for doing all that is honestly really laughable. It looks like they built everything else in the game and left the reason last, so they came up with an excuse in a hurry to finish and publish the game.
Also, why does Jefferson tell Max that Nathan shot Chloe at the rustyards if it was actually himself? He said he would have killed Max after, so why lie to her?

>>167536612
>why does Jefferson tell Max that Nathan shot Chloe
That's just him being a smug cartoon villain, anon. Max saw him do it, and he knows she did. He's saying it in a way that is to present to Max his (insane) idea that he can spin the entire affair on Nathan as a scapegoat. Similar to how a cheesy bond villain would explain his plan and then laugh maniacally.

And yes, that and more things are pretty laughable about Jefferson.

>tfw you'll never have a christian shy depressed american slutty qt3.14 gf
Why even breathe.

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>>167534576
If you say so.

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What are they discussing?

>>167536612
Yep.

The Jefferson stuff needed more work. I can get behind the idea of it, I don't even really need that much more *justification* for him to be doing it, I just don't really feel like it it's justified to be part of the story.

As totally unbalanced as Nathan's contributions to the story are (he's introduced at the very start as being the bad guy, and then there's never really any deviation from this at all, making most of the investigation stuff feel kinda shallow, and making the girl's priorities on the tuesday, wednesday and early thursday really weird), at least they're set up, we have good reason to think he's shady, etc.

Jefferson is just involved because ... they needed a plot twist? Replace Jefferson in Ep5 for Nathan and is there any difference at all to any of the plot? Nope. Does it make more sense overall? Yep. He's just such a weird addition to the dark room plot because he doesn't actually add anything to the story. "Hue Max's mentor is actually a psycho" ... and? Does that actually add anything to the themes the game is based around?

I feel like they needed to either integrate him into the story more. Something like, make it clear Nathan had a partner, and keep that running as a side mystery that caused the girls to keep watching their backs (hell, this could even explain the "why didn't the girls ever call the police" stuff because you could just say "it's someone with high status/power in the community", have the girls extrapolate from the principal to the police, mayor, etc) and then have the reveal. You don't really lose anything given that a zero-setup "I'm the REAL big bad guy" twist is already totally cheap, but things are much more internally consistent, you get the chance to continue to sew the seeds about the Madsen/Frank red herrings, you have another active mystery for the community to gossip about during the episode breaks, etc.

>>167542291
Frank's dick

>>167542319
> I feel like they needed to either integrate him into the story more. Something like, make it clear Nathan had a partner, and keep that running as a side mystery that caused the girls to keep watching their backs (hell, this could even explain the "why didn't the girls ever call the police" stuff because you could just say "it's someone with high status/power in the community", have the girls extrapolate from the principal to the police, mayor, etc) and then have the reveal.
They would have been an actually pretty good idea. Wish they did this senpai

>>167542610
That*
Fuck my autocorrect

>>167542610
I mean, I'm not even sure they ever even needed an excuse to *not* call the police in the first place. At worst, it just means they can't reuse the junkyard for the Jefferson reveal scene ... and they shouldn't have used it anyway, because Jefferson should have already assumed that the junkyard is compromised.

Have the girls call the police when Max suggests it at the start of the party scene. Chloe still wants to go inside to find Nathan, so the scene plays out as normal. Then have Jefferson lure the girls from the party, but lead them somewhere else (hell, didn't some of the early leaks reveal that Max was originally going to get a ride from Jefferson from the school's parking lot, which basically solves this same issue) ... and the rest of the game can play out exactly as it did, because none of this stuff ever matters again. Jefferson makes it clear in the dark room that he's going to pin everything on Nathan, so it shouldn't really matter if the police find Rachel's body or not. It certainly doesn't matter to the rest of the game.

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>>167542332
They're 10 in that pic you creep.

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/lisg/ is 2 years old now!

>>167498875
>>167503042
>t chloecucks

>>167543673
There was definitely a desperation to save cash by reusing assets. In this case both the junkyard and the dark room get reused, when a phone call to the cops would have immediately rendered both areas unusable for Jefferson.

It would have also put a different spin on the scenario: Jefferson's been backed into a corner. Forensic scientists are going to go over the dark room and they'll find evidence of someone other than Nathan having been there, and the authorities will probably cut a deal with Sean Prescott in exchange for testimony fingering him.

So he abducts Max (and takes her somewhere else, maybe his own house's basement), a third out of spite, a third to have one final photography session - his last masterpiece, and a third because he has a desperate hope that if he eliminates all the witnesses he can blame things entirely on Nathan, perhaps claim he was only in the dark room as a paid tutor and that he didn't know the rest of what was going on in there.

Only he knows deep down that such a claim probably wont work. He knows that he's fucked in the long term; he's now forced to deal with the consequences of his choices (oooo, parallels with the protagonist dealing with her choices - advanced story telling stuff here). That would then give him a reason to be all crazy Disney villain. His world's been shattered, and both the reason for that happening, and the object of his obsession is sitting across the room from him.

I'm also not sure it even makes sense that Chloe would want to leave Rachel's body in the junkyard, instead of immediately calling in the proper authorities and giving her a proper burial. Especially after she's been half-dug up. Animals are going to be in there, trying to get at the rotting meat.

>>167524387
>But she really didn't know Kate was drugged involuntarily.
That's difficult to believe in light of her close relationship with Nathan.

>Victoria herself says that she's only a bully because she's grown up where competition is the norm and you have to be dirty to get ahead. Her parents don't seem to care much about her unless she distinguishes herself...
I pity her, but that doesn't justify her actions. Being bullied is not an excuse to bully others.

>>167522271
>there is literally zero resolution to the supernatural stuff,
That was a major flaw in the story. Tying Jefferson's photos into a ritual to summon the storm or create time travelers would've combined the storylines and given some closure.

>showing up out of nowhere without any reasonable setup,
They hinted that Jefferson was up to something with his conversation with Kate Marsh. Students also talked about him sleeping with Rachel. The clues were there, but subtle.

>>167524045
Chloe's bad temper and forthright attitude lend me to the conclusion that she told Joyce to her face what she thought of her many times.

>>167524675
It wouldn't surprise me if that conversation happened while Max was at Blackwell after they sent David packing.

>>167529060
>>167529274
Very touching, despite my preference for pro-Bae fanfiction. Good work.

>>167532190
>That being said, there's no reason why an "everyone happy" ending isn't possible within the confines of the time travel logic, which is why trying to insert a dilemma here was stupid. If some alterations were made, it could at least made more sense.
They could've added a better binary choice or made it clear that Max only had enough energy left for one or two more jumps and given her a choice of three groups to save. That would've been more in the spirit of the game.

>>167533826
Max isn't free spirited enough to leave school without a plan. Chloe would've had to convince her.

>>167547417
>There was definitely a desperation to save cash by reusing assets. In this case both the junkyard and the dark room get reused, when a phone call to the cops would have immediately rendered both areas unusable for Jefferson.

That doesn't really matter though, because they could have just used some other pre-used location. It's not like Jefferson's plan makes any sense anyway, because the text from Nathan's phone makes it sound like he *was* at the junkyard, but has since cleared off. Why would they bother to go back?

I'd argue it would make more sense for Nathan's (Jefferson's) text to say something like "just finished removing all the evidence, now you have nothing on me, guess I better go get ready for the Vortex Club party!" It makes him sound more smug - which should rile Chloe up more and make them think less rationally - and would suggest that Nathan is in his room. The girls can then beeline to the dorms, only to have Jefferson jump out from somewhere along the way. It's a little messy - obviously you'd need to be very careful about where specifically it happens, given that there should still be plenty of other people around the school/dorm ... but I think the internal logic works better than what was in the game.

Or worst case, just have Nathan's text say something like "It'll be hard for the authorities to find Rachel's body once I've finished dumping it in in the ocean", and have the girls assume he's on his way to the lighthouse cliff. Jefferson can just jump them there all the same.

>I'm also not sure it even makes sense that Chloe would want to leave Rachel's body in the junkyard, instead of immediately calling in the proper authorities and giving her a proper burial.

Max DOES suggest calling the police at the start of the party scene, but Chloe just blows her off. The justification is that Chloe wants her revenge, she wants to kill Nathan. If she informs the police, she might lose the chance.

>>167547847
>That's difficult to believe in light of her close relationship with Nathan.
This is something I wish the game had touched upon a little bit more. To be honest, I think this would have been THE best avenue for painting what kind of a person Nathan ACTUALLY is.

Is Nathan deep down a good person, but is just really troubled (mentally, emotionally, etc) and manipulated by father-figure Jefferson (and presumably sexual urges)? Or is he just a scumfuck through and through?

Tell us through Victoria, his best friend. Did Nathan conspire with Jefferson to kidnap Victoria for funsies? Or did he fight against Jefferson to prevent it?

As it stands, we don't really know. Victoria's binder was in the dark room when the girl's found it, so it had been planned at least earlier the same day when Nathan was still alive. But Victoria still speaks like she's super worried about Nathan when we speak with her in Episode 5 (not to mention their other signs of friendship throughout the game - including the more intimate scene at the end of Ep2), so it sounds like she's still firmly on his side.

So was Nathan involved in her kidnapping? I think if this side of things was developed a little bit better, it would have been a nice way to imply more about Nathan without direct exposition.

Plebbit ain't that bad as I thought

https://www.reddit.com/r/lifeisstrange/comments/5s6zzj/ep5_spoilers_why_i_could_never_choose_one_of_the/

>>167553504
How does Kate feel about Max turning her into a keychain?

>>167551914
I don't think Nathan was a good person. He made too many awful choices and nearly everyone he trusted put him in an even worse spot.
He was not misunderstood or misguided. His actions were willing and enjoyed because he was made to believe they were acceptable amd would bring him praise.
To make Nathan good, you qould have to remive his father and Jefferson feom his life and drug him up with meds to control him.

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>>167546701
OH SHIB! It is!
Happy Birthday, /lisg/!

>>167553901
I doubt she would appreciate it.

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Hey /lisg/. Congrats on reaching two years!
Glad you were there to help Max and Chloe through that rough time.
We- I mean, THEY really appreciate it.
Can't post anymore. Driving to airport.

>>167554592
I agree. But the game tried to give him *some* sort of a redeeming moment in Ep5 with his voice message to Max, and a lot of folks around the web have used that as a bit of a rallying cry to indicate that Nathan was "a gub boi who diddn do nuffin, he was just being used and manipulated by Jefferson!!!" It's nonsense, of course, the game provides enough evidence that Nathan was doing much of his shitty actions of his own free will. But it still provides that little glimmer of humanity and understanding under it all.

Which is why I think the Victoria stuff would have been a nice touch. Maybe it would have been a little too direct, but I'd have seen it as THE definitive indicator of whether he's truly lost or not. If he fucks her over, he's totally lost. If he fights for her, there's some good left in him.

Otherwise, a post-"you're-totally-fucked" voice message hardly says anything about his character. Regret, perhaps, but it's hard to separate "I'm sorry I did all this shit to you and your friends" from "I'm sorry I got caught doing all this shit to you and your friends".

But maybe I'm just trying to think too hard about Nathan's character. I was one of those people who was wondering whether it would be Nathan who would ultimately rescue Max from the dark room (potentially killing Jefferson in the process as a "conquering his demons" type move), so the lack of any real resolution to Nathan ended up feeling a little underwhelming.

>>167557168
I did think that it would be Nathan that saved Max from the Dark Room.
Even if he died doing it. Like he shot Jefferson, panicked, then shot himself, but Max could rewind and try to talk him out of it.
It would have been a nice contrast to Kate: Max trying to save her friend she knows is innocents vs Max trying to save someone who perhaps cannot be saved (Nathan either dies or he ends up on trial and in prison).

Speaking of Max escaping the Dark Room, I got the feeling right after seeing it that Max and Chloe would end up there at some point, so I was expecting that to be a variable influenced by choices throughout the game.
-Siding with David makes him save Max
-Being nice to Nathan makes him save you, as mentioned above
-Being nice to Frank, and he shakes down Nathan and gets the location of the Dark Room, and saves Max

Chloe actually getting killed again caught me off guard but it was clear it was going to just be one more thing for Max to undo.
Overall I think there was a lot of potential for the villains, but they weren't utilized or thought out very well. Which is good for the heroes of the story.

>>167489790
>protestants
>practicing catholic paganism

>>167497120
>kidnapping and drugging people
>thinking his "art" will somehow benefit humanity

>>167559092
Why would you reply to the bait Anon? D:

>>167558129
Which is why it's so frustrating to me that they literally wasted >half of an episode on backtracking and pointlessness:

(1) They have no reason to search the Principal's office at the start of Ep3, and already know Nathan should be their main target. Visit his room during that scene.

(2) A few scenes later, Max snoops through Madsen's garage. Have her pick up his main stack of documents during the scene.

(3) A few scenes later, the girls snoop through Frank's RV. Have them pick up his client list here.

This is something I've been harping on about for ages, but such minor alterations basically render a huge chunk of Episode 4 as pointless busywork. Do this stuff in Ep3 where it actually makes sense, and you have four extra scenes (Chloe's house/Madsen's garage, dorm courtyard, boys dorm, beach) to fill with character development. Especially given that Nathan is totally out of the story by the time the girls actually piece all their investigationing together (his last scene is in the boy's dorm, so the girls never get a chance to confront him about anything at any point during the remaining story), and given that Jefferson doesn't really have any development on the villain front at all, it would have been nice if they could have used these extra scenes in more interesting ways.

>>167556609
>Seat 28F
>Seat 29F

Why are they sitting in different rows? How will they join the mile high club with that arrangement?

>>167559979
The time could have definitely been used better. Episode 4 and 5 could have been devoted to progressing the story and bringing into a better and more fitting conclusion.
The points you mentioned, as well as the extra weeks being taken for Episode 5 being used on things far more interesting and relevant than the nightmare. Even removing the stealth scenes, and keeping the more intriguing and character-development parts of the dream, frees up more room for character interaction, last parts of world-building, and plot resolution. Instead they sunk their time and focus into the nightmare's 'freaky' aspects and giving an unfair amount of attention to the bay ending.

In the end, LiS ends up being something like a dream. Where so many things could have happened and it could have been truly amazing from start to finish. Then when you wake up you have to see the much less spectacular reality.
So many lost opportunities that hopefully, through some miracle, get explored more in the series. But if not then at least we have all the discussion and fics.

>>167560572
Those seats are likely right next to each other. So they can sit together, watch a movie, share snacks, push up the arm rest and cuddle...or get up and join that club.
Though they are probably saving that for the hotel room. Doing it on a plane sounds overrated and hella uncomfy.

I'm too lazy to sift through all this crap can someone just link me the best post lisg fanfiction out there?

>>167561008
Look at the OP.

>>167560871
Rows are numbered, columns are alphabetical. Chloe would be sitting behind Max while Max sits with some fat snoring car salesman or something. They'd also be sitting in coach with those numbers. Hella awkward.

Also, Chloe would absolutely want to join the mile high club, she's the definition of corny rebellion.

>>167561008
>>167561169

The compilation is a bit outdated. I highly recommend Eternal Return, Better Then, and No Grave Can Hold My Body Down. Ouraboros is also supposed to be the best fluff fic.

>>167561402
Thanks Ill check those out

>>167553718
>When I played, I never placed myself in the shoes of Max.
>my Max did not have romantic feelings for Chloe. This makes the largest difference in that final choice.
>I can't rationalize sacrificing the lives and/or livelihood of the people of Arcadia Bay to save the life of a childhood friend. With a romantic love element, that could change the choice drastically because it immediately becomes more emotional.

What a shitty place.

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>>167561282
When they board the plane they discover another couple made the same mistake and wants to sit next to each other. So they each swap a ticket a end up sitting next to their partner.
Things work out in the end.

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>>167562351
I hope one day I get bigger. I want to carry Mama on my back just like how she carries me.

>>167563250
I don't know. If you got that big then Kate wouldn't be able to carry you around, plus you'd need a lot more food.
But if you want to get big and strong then work at it and eat your veggies! You can do it, Alice!

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>>167562643
Then Warren jumps out of the cockpit wearing a suicide vest and the blood of two dead pilots.

Chloe has to choose between saving the lives of everyone on the plane or cucking herself by giving Max to Warren haha :)

>>167564695
>Max rewinds time to before the pilots were killed
>Holds time in a pause
>Disarms Warren
>Get back in her seat and resumes time
>Warren gets up screaming, gets tackled by either an Air Marshall or the Flight Attendants/passengers
>Warren is restrained for the remainder of the flight
Your crappy tragedies have no power here.

>>167565078
>Max rewinds time
>Finds herself 35,000 ft in the air and 1 km in front of the aircraft

Oops

>>167565176
Does not work that way. Max's rewind seems to account for certain things like the rotation of the Earth or movement of vehicles. She would remain seated or standing within the cabin while rewinding.

>>167553718
>>167562437
>Reddshit link
Oh, boy. Those comments.

Here's some of my "personal favourites", first the old "you dont GET it, muh emotion":
>Accept that the story has plot holes. It has a ton of them. It's all about emotional impact, in the end.

Then several people were thinking Chloe actually wants to anhero, and Max is denying her greatest wish:
>Chloe is the one who wants to sacrifice herself, and much like in the alt timeline Max is there just to make it possible.

And to top it off, someone seriously thought a tornado would do more damage than AN ATOMIC BOMB:
>the tornado would be an EF5, and would result in the total destruction of the town, and massive lost of life. Considering that an EF5 absolutely dwarfs the Hiroshima and Nagaskai atomic blasts, I think that assumption is reasonable.

OP's post was good, but it seems like he's drowning in a sewer's worth of shitty replies.

>>167564000
I agree with the filename there. Nice trips. And a very comfy image to end the night with.
Sleep tight.

>>167564695
>saving the lives of everyone on the plane or cucking herself by giving Max to Warren
>"or"
>not "and"
>so she can either save everyone, or cuck herself
nice, she saves herself and everyone else and doesn't get cucked. Much better than your usual binary choices, Mychel.

I guess she waited until warryn passed her seat, then sneaked into the cockpit and pushed the plane into a steep dive, causing warryn (who isn't wearing a seat belt) to crack his head on the roof and instantly become unconscious.

>>167566434
>would result in the total destruction of the town, and massive lost of life.

I'm 100% sure that he's never seen the Bae ending.

>Considering that an EF5 absolutely dwarfs the Hiroshima and Nagaskai atomic blasts, I think that assumption is reasonable.
>I think that assumption is reasonable.

God, I wish I was blind now.

>>167553718
Wow looks like somewhat like the reasoning you see here, but with a lot more shit-eating as well.
But it's good that more people are pointing out the plotholes and fighting back against the idiocy of "Choosing to save Chloe is selfish and kills a lot of people!" Still doesn't redeem that site and the other stupid things that have done and continue to do.

>>167566434
I do feel bad for the OP. Maybe they will find here (or already are here). And while 4chan/ /lisg/ is definitely not some secret club, I do not want those people coming here and trying to change things or force their tests of morality on us.
Certain places are strongly Bay (YouTube comments, Reddit, NeoGAF), some are mixed (Reddit), and others are strongly Bae (/lisg/, Tumblr). Others just hate the game entirely. Keep them separate and don't go poking hornets nests. They're not going to change us and we're not going to change them.

>>167566940
>an EF5 absolutely dwarfs the Hiroshima and Nagaskai atomic blasts
What the absolute fuck am I reading? That's wrong on absolutely every single level.

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I need a cutepost to calm down and wash terrible shit out of my eyes and mind. Reading that garbage that was linked baffled and angered me.

>>167567061
I'm going to assume they somehow got incredibly confused and conflated tornadoes with hurricanes (the latter can bring widespread devastation, and if you take the energy of the whole enormous storm system it is probably a fair bit more than a nuke. Although said energy is released over a far longer time period, so it's less efficient in terms of damage done per unit energy, especially versus strongly constructed buildings)

>>167567406
NO natural disaster compares to an Atom Bomb.
The bomb combines every disaster and then some.
A bright flash of light that vaporizes everything (and actually burns shadows where they were cast) and blinds people who see it, a heat wave that melts things near instantly, a massive shockwave that levels the surrounding area like an earthquake, a powerful vacuum that then fills that void with winds worse than any tornado or hurricane. Then just to top it off, radiation that lingers and kills for decades after.

Perhaps I could forgive this retarded statement on its own, but when they blame that tornado (Which in their mind is this ultimate disaster) on Max, they are claiming she is worse than something that killed at least 100,000 people. That Max is the biggest single murderer in history.
That is unexplainable and unforgivable when it comes to taking that person seriously or thinking they have any valid point.

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>>167561402
I've been enjoying Better Then quite a bit lately, so I'll probably drop into the recs list soon and write something, but if you've got suggestions, you should totally add something too!

>>167568050
Yeah fic recs is still open. Don't know how often anyone uses those resources but they're nice to have and don't cost anything that I know of.

Wow. They both look really good in those suits. I've seen art of Chloe in suits before, but Max is new. Maybe she can wear one to a gallery appearance the times she doesn't feel like dresses. She pulls it off well.
And Chloe pulls it off of her as well

>>167514393
>but the realist gives them a 70/30 chance
There is no "chance". There is the story we see, and what meaning it has. This is a fictional story, one about their love. One that explores how their relationship springs back into action on day one after a traumatic five-year separation, and in the course of a week shows how it grows, how they do thanks to it, heal, overcome all obstacles, transcend time and space, defy the universe. How their relationship, their bond and love, is the reason they even made it through the terrible shit of that week and made it out together smiling, having fought for and supported each other. The ending showing a triumph, a prevayal of love. Again and again it makes a point of saying their love is eternal, and the literal time-transcending, universe-spanning reality of it as well as their keeping together from start to finish, through all, even things such as Rachel's literal corpse, to touch on your "other reason to question their long-term viability", is the narrative of just that.

That's like taking a love story such as Romeo and Juliet and saying their love means little in itself and exists due to their family feuds, not despite, against, above them. That their love would have died had they not. If you want to be a "realist" in that sense, question the "long-term viability" of a fictional romance, you're just being a romantically-retarded philistine. Their love tears apart time and space, universes rise and fall at its will... yet, you doubt its "long-term viability" based on their hormonal stresses, and take the terrible stresses they've managed to prevail through ~thanks~ to their bond, as the reason it exists at all... You claim to have a romantic in you and then approach a romantical story with "usual success rates for teenage romances", "early hormonal desires" and "questionable long-term viabilities". You are a hopeless realist with seemingly very little sentimental appreciation for romantical narrative.

>>167558604
>implying she isn't orthodox

>First off...
None of those things you listed are shitposting - they were posts made against yours. If you think Max is a murderer and terrorist, you are an idiot. And it's certainly not the type of shitposting you do. "Arcadia was meant to vanish; Max will become a terrorist and turn Arcadia to glass for having taken Chloe from her in the Bay ending and perform necromantic rituals with the corpses of its people to bring her back, and the world will be better for it" - now that's shitposting more the type of which you bring here. You wrote that atrocious piece of green text story and then have the nerve to say you aren't shitposting? And claim people would pay for your writing? Hopefully not in the creative field, if that green text really did require inspiration for you to puke into the reply window and be proud enough of to repost frequently.

>I'm voicing a fact based opinion.
Shit opinions can be based on facts. Being based on fact does not mean the opinion cannot be shitty, let alone its expression.

Of the few opinions I've seen you share here, probably half of them were shitty. Here's to Max, our little terrorist that just had to do the thing you consider morally right, in this dilemma simulator that culminates in its ultimate meaning: a moral lesson on the quantifiability of human life; and, of course, her late partner/silly teenage crush, Chloe the dicksurfing prostitute rave girl that runs from cops so frequently she's kept in shape due to it. Cheers!

What do you write, usually - comedy, is it?

>As it is their work, I respect that decision, regardless of my personal feelings.
So you also respect the Bae ending, and, in as much as it was artist decision and intention, also the fact that people will have their reasons for picking it that can have to do with the workings of the time travel as portrayed in the game? Because from what I see, you regularly dis-respect not only such reasons behind that choice, but that choice altogether itself.

>>167547847
>>167547847
>>167547847
You thought it was touching?

I did write it teary-eyed. I actually broke down in tears after finishing it at the thought of actually sacrificing Chloe, abandoning her one last time.

>>167569784
I also thought it was touching. It does play on those sweet notes more so than the bitter ones. Giving Chloe that last freedom she could never have.

But it still hurts too impossibly much. The contrast of the chidlish joy that Chloe sought to, and with Max returning finally did recapture, that health and liveliness and happiness expressing itself in the pure white of snow dressed in colorful winter gear, like her colorful tattoo on a pale arm... to her being a pile of dark, bitter ash flowing down the river never having had this reunion with Max, never having had this regained happiness and love and her inner child blooming again - but, instead, a pile of dark, bitter ash as the remains of a young life lost in a moment of loneliness and desperation, tragically and brutally lost in a place where people come to crap, all that will and power to happiness and love drained, into outlets on a bathroom floor, terror and regret and impossibility tormenting these last moments of hers, as the bright future sits just a few feet away, dying all the same.

In the context of their world and story, it's an impossible moment of two immeasurably precious people dying in the cruellest tragedy, and an immeasurably precious bond being torn when it should be impossible to; I can't help but feel it distinctly as such a sheer impossibility of an all-significant, all-powerful connection being torn in the cruellest and most brutal fashion, loud and painful and agonizing in the most evil way of having been forced back into that impossible moment, forced to sit through it... and the characters the story is all about dying, identity and humanity and love dying. To think of any quiet and stillness that is in the ash flowing down a river just doesn't compute. Bay is impossible, and the only thing I could see in it is universe-destroying madness or self-destroying sadness.

>>167570824
Precisely because the story destroys itself there, destroys its main characters and main themes. The theme of growing as a person, because it is only regression in most of every and the most literal sense. And the theme of love, as it is being destroyed in the most cruel way of killing it at a point where it took its beginning.

And I see nothing in that ending but that powerful emotion of impossibility, impossible hurt. Chloe dying a stranger, that connection being torn before they even reunited, was so impossible for Max that she defied the entire universe, and then fought for it through the most terrible battles... and now she'd not only bring that moment into existence by her own hand, but force herself to sit through it - after all that happened between them, what they have become? Just impossible to me. The ending is only "valueable" to me as that agony of an impossibility, and the certainty of its opposite that lies in it.

>>167569205
>the terrible stresses they've managed to prevail through ~thanks~ to their bond, as the reason it exists at all
With those things as measure of the powerfulness and meaningfulness of their love. Just like Romeo and Juliet's love is established as so significant that it stands against those obstacles, that it is so powerful that it transcends a history of hatred and violence, that it is so meaningful they oppose their families and friends and risk and give their lives for it. Just as the adversities and adversaries Max and Chloe face and beat from within and without, the "height of the obstacles" they overcome, is merely measure of the powerfulness and meaningfulness of their love. The time power itself as symbol for the power of that bond, the power of love, discovered only through and for that connection; a symbolic manifestation of a timeless love, symbolic for the striving and fighting for it.

That's like saying Romeo and Juliet's love is unhealthy and advise them to stop seeing each other because it negatively affects with their social lives outside of each other and that they will not last together because of it, that their relationship is built on its troubles and not manifestation of something beyond them, not worth fighting that fight for because the things they fight against are worth more in the long run, and would be more important to them come a point where they are left to their relationship after having won that fight for it, that they should just marry whoever their families want and will be happier that way, and how it's better and more viable in terms of long-term sustainability...

I mean, you can have that view on it, but I'd rather not indulge in romantical, sentimental fiction like I would as a psychologist in relationship counselling.

>>167569205
>even things such as Rachel's literal corpse, to touch on your "other reason to question their long-term viability"
When a primary narrative function of "Rachel" here precisely is a contrast to Max and Chloe's relationship, showing precisely the unhealthy and unsustainable, futile nature of whatever was between Rachel and Chloe, and the healthy, everlasting and all-meaningful, mutually beneficial nature of that between Max and Chloe. Rachel as a narrative complex works in brilliant ways to explore and highlight themes of that romance between Max and Chloe, to add to that significance of that between them in an outright romantical sense to begin with, as opposed to other things that also establish their love, but do not necessarily do so in a strictly romantical sense.

Similar to how Warren's role adds substance and significance to the romantical quality of Max and Chloe's relationship.

>>167569312
>Chloe the dicksurfing prostitute rave girl
Oh, excuse me: *Chloe the dicksurfing prostitute rave penultimate-tomboy.

>>167525150
>Nobody has ever been (seriously) hostile to these ships on /lisg/.
Now that's an extreme that's equally not true. Maximum Victory did not go entirely unhated at all. I'd know.

Marshfield was just never present enough to garner much of any response.

But the general has changed, and obviously it has. And that, after all this time, the majority of people that have stuck around did so for things the game is actually about, and are very invested in that, is not at all surprising. Outside of here, even the ships that did use to have a relatively significant following have almost completely dried out as well. "Pricefield" is the reason the general exists anymore.

That said, the general has changed in that it is just less diverse now. I don't think or see that the general has grown more hostile towards comfy funshipping or anything, it's just that there simply aren't many people anymore that care for it. I personally just don't get it anymore, how one could be romantically invested in things that just aren't the reality of the work, when there is a romantical reality of it that's so intriguing.

And honestly, from my impression, it's only a handful of people left here that ~really~ care that much about Pricefield. If something is posted about it, be it art, fiction and conversation and discussion, it's one of a few people that I can make out, me included.

If people here in general were as crazy about it as me and those other few people, you'd see more heated discussion on some of these things said here, more support for arguments made against them, more general support and content (I post a good share of it).

>>167573259
And I don't even think we have that crazy of a Bae > Bay-sidedness anymore. Most people here likely prefer it to an extent or another, but this sentiment of "fuck no, Bae or bust; Pricefield over everything" is just not brought here by more than a few people anymore. Not often anyway. Many of them probably just stopped caring so much, which is understandable. Or stopped coming altogether, being replaced by new people that are not that much of a cult following (yet) as the people that had been there from the beginning, especially of course given how how playing the game and visiting here throughout its release affected the experience.

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Precious little doodle. Look how happy and content lil' Chlo' is here.

Victoria did quite a few things wrong.

>>167576447
I mean she had almost bullied Kate to death but... Deep in her heart she's good. This grants her forgiveness, right?

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>tfw we'll never see them again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRQPc-PK1gM

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>>167566940
>Considering that an EF5 absolutely dwarfs the Hiroshima and Nagaskai atomic blasts, I think that assumption is reasonable.
>I think that assumption is reasonable.
>EF5 absolutely dwarfs the Hiroshima and Nagaskai
>this EF5
>dwarfs
>the
>hiroshima
>nagaskai
i've been laughing at this for 3 hours

>>167577165
But you forget anon, that's not an ef5, it's an e6. Which is an imaginary designation, so obviously it's as powerful as the dev's imagination. So with mychel in charge it would naturally be weak as fuck.

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Here's another fiction from some warryncuck:

>http://archiveofourown.org/chapters/21683939?show_comments=true

>>167577821 >>167562437
>>167566434 >>167566985
Actually guys, if we really want to get rid of this ignorant community we just have to get rid of warrencucks+plebbittors.

Another reason that I love this game. It helps you to realize there are really idiotic people exist and even they are showing their ignorance while making interpreations of some fictional story.

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>>167577821
>Rape/Non-Con
>Warren Graham/Everyone

Yeah, um... I might skip this to be honest

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>>167553718
>the first comment is giving reasonable evidences
>however comments only focused on ''iluvwarryn,bae ending=hiroshima,everybody ded,Maxwasstraightinmyplaythrough''
OP is in the wrong place, he should've been here.
Somebody should invite that poor kid to /lesg/

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>>167578670

>>167578849
>implying being against to trannycuck makes you mychel
nice try moichel

>>167578971
>as opposed to the obvious implication that michyl is a tranny faggot

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>>167482828
>>167573376
>It's Max's overuse of her power that's causing the tornado
>Solution is to go back to bathroom and let Chloe die
>Because if it wasn't for that meeting in the bathroom, Max would have never discovered her power
>So apparently the idea is to make a timeline where Max never discovers her power
>But we already did this (alt universe/w Wheelie Chloe), and the same paranormal events were still happening at exactly the same times
>Let's ignore that for the moment, and point out Max discovered her power as a direct result of seeing Chloe die
>Presumably, Chloe not dying would have the same effect (actually a better chance) at stopping her from discovering her powers
>But this is what we actually did in the first rewind, went back to the bathroom and engineered a scenario where Chloe didn't die, so Max wouldn't have to rewind
>Ah, but that was after Max had already rewound once. Maybe the butterfly photo takes you back to the first time Max enters the Bathroom.
>Except that we had to re-take the Butterfly photo the second time we went into the bathroom, so that photo should lead to the second time Max entered the bathroom, where she already has her powers
>And they already established with photographing Kate and David, that you don't get to keep the photos after a rewind (except for the purposes of the optional photo collection thing, you don't keep them in game).
>So the photo must lead to the post-rewind bathroom
>Whateva, let's ignore that for the moment as well and assume the photo does take Max back to the first time she enters the bathroom
>Then since this is the first time in the bathroom, doing exactly what she did the second time, triggering the alarm and saving Chloe, would have prevented her from discovering her powers. Since letting Chloe die the first time around is actually what led to Max discovering her powers.

Bae>Bay passion never went awayWe'd already implied which's nonsense and which isn't that's why we don't discuss that much

>>167573376
since 400 generals/ep5's release:
>all people here know that max and chloe's love for each other as game implied
>all people here know that endings are don't make sense. especially bay (as leaks implied)
>all people here know that plebbitors are shit-eaters

that's why they don't go down deeper about these issues anymore unless ignorant cuck comes here and tries to talk about non-canon things which is bullshit.''anti ignorant'' sidedness never gone and never will.
for the other old anons, they'll probably be back when they heard any news from Season 2.

>>167579827
>(as leaks implied)
I an newfag. Plz explain.

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>>167577821
Suggestion: Could you link to and talk about fanfiction you enjoy, and not give that shit hits and attention?

Or do you enjoy it, is that it? What do you bring it here for? People are perverts, we get it.

>>167579497
>>167579827
Nah, the Bae > Bay passion does burn significantly lower than it used to. Again, it's only me and a handful of others at most, often not even that, at all entering these discussions. Others don't even so much as bump in with an occasional "Screw you, Bae > Bay!", regardless of any ignorance being communicated in the thread.

Not many here are so hardcore about it, and not that hardcore about Pricefield either. Nobody's entering the discussions in support of it or argue against what is said against it, and it's altogether only few that post at all about it, let alone frequently. Of the 40-60 or so unique posters we get per thread, I wouldn't be surprised if only 10-20% cared enough about these things to post. Because that's just the reality of the general. It's a handful of people that post the art with any frequency, and even less that cutepost and talk about it. It just is not there. I post about half of the Pricefield here, and significantly more than half of the new stuff, and apart from one and sometimes two other people, post lengthy stuff about it at all. We are a crazy handful.

To be honest, I don't really know what so many people are even here for anymore. I know what I am here for and spend time on here, and I sure as shit wouldn't be here if I didn't even care enough about Pricefield to just quickly communicate it. Not even just in response to some inflammatory bullshit, but posting and responding to art, cuteposting in general, responding to posts and actually still making lengthy posts about it. This investment/fascination/obsession might seem pathetic, and sure, it is, but then to me it's even more pathetic that people are still here that seemingly care so little.

>>167546701
Happy Birthday to us!

>>167574702
Heart-warming!

>>167575557
That's adorable. Do you have an artist name and did they do more LiS?

>>167581248
I'm serious about the Pricefield, but arguing about the endings is pedantic. Fine to justify choices and see different thought patterns (So long as they're relevant and rational).
But in the end, both choices were pretty bad and insulting to the characters, so I just believe Max found a third way to save both.

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>>167582057
Adorable indeed.

biluart.tumblr.com/post/156854729750/max-and-chloe-from-life-is-strange-3b

Alas seemingly their only LiS doodle.

But have this boxy Pricefield to make up for the lack!

>>167582454
Great, thanks
They have a cute style so I will have to check and see if they post more

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>>167582845
They were taking requests then, maybe they will again in the future! So if you like it enough, you could shoot them a req sometime.

But I did find this on their deviantart, and it could pass as a Max! What a nerd.

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>>167583320
It could pass as a Max.
First time I saw someone post this I thought it was Max (It isn't)

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Good evening /lisg/

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>>167585084
When does the evening start anyway?

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>>167583635
>grey zipper hoody
>pinkish shirt
>brown mop
>cup of coffee
>cute as frick
That does look like her. Probably sitting in the new Two Whales with blue leather (Chloe helped with the interior design). Eying thos' pastries cravingly. Or skeptically observing Chloe showing her a new trick of how she can jump over the counter that totally has the potential to break her arm.

>>167585084
Evening Sir Artios.

>>167585284
Golden hour!

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>>167585783
The new Two Whales is really nice. New equipment, new decorations, Max and Chloe have their own special booth, and the business across the street never re-opened after the storm (or it moved) so there's a clear view of the beach and ocean from the diner.
Also there's a built into cellar . storm bunker. New look and new material, same old good home-style food.

>>167585990
Always thought this one was a little on the zoomorphic side, with those big, paw-like hands and Max's nose. Max is also a lot shorter there.

Cute as heck though, with Max resting warm and content against Chloe's chest, Chloe petting her head comfortably, holding her back protectively and relishing the familiar scent of her hair.

>>167587521
>Always thought this one was a little on the zoomorphic side, with those big, paw-like hands and Max's nose

True. It's still cute tho.

>>167587521
Hands are a bitch to draw. Few times I've tried drawing people and that's the hardest part in addition to a (detailed) face.

I want Victoria to bully me!

>>167589028
http://sendvid.com/j39lz4u9

>>167589028
But she doesn't want to bully people anymore. Kate has shown her the error of her ways.

>>167589961
She's still a bully at heart.

>>167579959
The original bay ending was that chloe gets shot and falls into a coma. The game would end with max next to her in the hospital. This ending would at least have max talk about her choices, and how it's affected her life so far to chloe, and it's left open to the player whether or not chloe wakes up again.

But dontnod didn't think it was tragic enough, so they outright killed her and gave us a shitty prerendered cutscene

>>167592067
Since they half-assed the Bae ending they should have done the same with Bay. End the game directly after Chloe gets shot. You hear the gunfire and then the credits start to roll.
Both are left completely open-ended and nobody can foolishly claim "That ending was the true one because it was longer"

>>167590592
I bet Chloe loves it when Max plays songs for her. Chloe returns the favor when she can, but unfortunately hides her voice from a lot of people (Max hears it sometimes when Chloe is in the shower)

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Would you still love Max the boy?

>>167594275
This makes me uncomfortable.
I signed up for lesbians. Not homosex gays.

>>167594275
Sure as long as that's all that changes and he still love Chloe. They were great characters, and a great couple, because of who they are- not what.
Though it's been said in the past that Max and Chloe were written as girls and their actions/behavior represent that. Which is true, I could not see two guys (who were not openly gay) being so comfortable with stuff like flirting between each other, hugging, swimming together in a secluded spot, or other stuff.
Max and Chloe being guys would probably not have flowed as well with their friendship transitioning into more.

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>>167594275
They are all waaay too buff and squarefaced. Max would definitely be more twinky and skinny, similar to pic related

>>167594275
Wouldn't male Max basically be Shinji Ikari?
I mean still cute and lovable, and also deeply troubled. But eventually finds their confidence.

>>167595824
Max would be quite feminine, and thin. He'd be bullied for being too sensitive/girly. He would still be dorky and fawn over animals.

Cole(?) would be lanky, with a kind of toned figure, like Chloe has traditionally feminine good looks underneath her rugged surface, Cole would have that nuclear family blonde boy look underneath the stubble and blue hair.

Erin (Warren) would be flat-chested, awkward, and plain-looking. Basically girl Warren.

Natasha would be attractive with a masculine-edge to her face. Toned frame.

I kind of what S2 to have boys for the main characters. Even if they don't end up together, though seeing two guys build a relationship would be interesting and new. As long as it didn't feel forced.

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If you're at a dark enough place, swimming at night is like an out-of-world experience. Like being suspended in space.

>>167597518
I tend not to like male friendship stories because they usually end up as douchebroery, or two emotionally retarded guys who can't express their affection.

As long as it's passionate, emotional, and interesting, I'll play it.

>>167597840
Exactly. If they can make it seem realistic and feel like it's genuine and meant to be, then it can be great.
Max and Chloe could have been a lot more stereotypical and cliche but they weren't. And because of that it was a very pleasant thing to watch grow. So much so that many people used it as the biggest takeaway from the game.

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>>167597840
>tfw you don't care about playing a story of good male friendship because you've experienced it
It does seem like it would be difficult to communicate through pretty much any medium other than film or tv.
>passionate, emotional
The problem is that most really good male friendships aren't overtly emotional, its largely implied or not talked about.

>>167598878
I know I'm not like most men, but my male friendships have been very much emotional, and demonstratively affectionate.

A non-passionate, non-emotional friendship is boring and not in the spirit of LiS, which is a sentimental game.

>>167599787
The problem isn't depth of emotion, its that it tends to be less overt.

My group of friends are a tight-knit bunch of guys, we've been through quite a bit together, shared a few adventures and hard times, I can honestly say that I feel incredibly lucky to have such good and loyal friends. But the feeling isn't communicated verbally, you don't say that kind of thing. I don't need to tell them how much their friendship means to me, my actions say that more clearly than words ever could and their actions speak the same.

If you want to accurately represent that kind of relationship, you need to rely heavily on subtext and strong characters. Which is why its extremely hard to pull off well.