/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #470

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POST YOUR LIFE IS STRANGE 2 DREAM SOUNDTRACK

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Max is #1

>>167190205
Fuck me, out OP'd again
>>167190857
Syd Matters, and only Syd Matters. That's all.

>>167191032
Max is ______
perfect

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>>167189680
back at ya

>>167190857
Wish you were here

>>167191116
this song legit makes me tear up every time

>>167190857
If set in the 80's = Tangerine Dream

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Goodnight fellow dreamers.

>>167191494
meant to say "Obstacles"

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>>167190205
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget

>>167191406
You wish.

>>167191406
There was never been a game with Pink Floyd songs, isn't?

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>>167190330
I think Warren's action was good there, not least because Chloe could get in trouble for it. Like this, they don't make their hands dirty, but Nathan still gets some of his own medicine. And Warren asking him whether he likes hurting people is really satisfying. It was also one of the few more interesting character-building scenes for him.

>>167190857
Pretty much what >>167191116 said. For licensed tracks, I'd love me some Dreampop.

>>167191517
Dream well.

>>167190857
Sonic Youth

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BFFs, Pirates, Partners in Time & Crime & In Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA

>>167190857
KOETHE
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Michel did nothing wrong.

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>>167190857
>>167191503
If we're going 80s, I'd like Johnny Jewel/Symmetry to take a crack at it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsiIE-pACvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4v_L3BZRG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oClmMfPlknc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Rk-pLgtYE

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>friendly reminder that turning off your game is the confirmed canon ending

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>>167190248

>>167170441
Would certainly be different vibe, far less organic. As much as I love Lost River and the Refn-esque atmosphere that Johnny Jewel provides, I don't really think it would work well for longer form media, I find that once you get accustomed to the sound it loses the eeriness and becomes a little samey. It would help to make s2 feel distinct though witch is good.

>>167183460
It seems sort of tacky to me that they'd make gayness a common thread throughout the series. In LiS it played into the liminal themes, Max and Chloe not knowing entirely who they were was reflected in their uncertainly in how they felt about one another, it worked well but I don't think they need to re-visit it. I'd actually prefer they did away with the romantic themes altogether, explore a different kind of relationship, a platonic one even.

>>167175553
Better yet, I hope that they find a way to reference Max saving Arcadia Bay without saving Chloe. It would be difficult, given the physical effects she was suffering from overuse of her powers, but possible.

>>167190857
It's rash to decide without knowledge of the characters and themes.

I imagine Chloe would listen to these bands:
The Exploited
Cockney Rejects
The Lunachicks
Veruca Salt
L7
Throwdown
The Offspring

Max:
Slint
"Indie"-folk bands that I sneer at

>>167195252
While the romance is one of the most important parts of the game for me and many, I agree, they really shouldn't make "same sex" some gimmick. Because it wasn't.

I actually would love to see a platonic male/female relationship be explored. Roughly same-aged. Pretty rare.

>>167195252
>I'd actually prefer they did away with the romantic themes altogether, explore a different kind of relationship, a platonic one even.

Turning the series into Life is Gay: Season __ would commoditize homosexuality and damage their credibility within the indie gaming community.

It would be interesting to see two male characters of questioning sexuality in the next game. Besides whatever happens in the main quest, their choices could decide whether the main character is gay or straight. Offering a viable heterosexual alternative, e.g. not the female equivalent of Warren, would add more authenticity to that realm of player choice.

I'm pretty sure they meant to revolutionize player choice, not by having it decide the outcome of the game, but with the emotional impact of the choices.

>>167195901
>Roughly same-aged. Pretty rare.
Yeah. I'm tired of older dudes sleeping with young chicks. There's no reason Clara from Watch Dogs couldn't have been Aiden Pearce's age.

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>As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding
>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them
>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death..."
>Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."
>"What? No, fuck that. Lisa, you're my number one priority, I'm not eating you!"
>"Alice, think about it... how many times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny."
>"Lisa, I can't make this choice!"
>"No Alice, you're the only one who can"

>eat Lisa
https://instaud.io/kVV

>eat your own foot
https://instaud.io/kWb

Boop bop if lis 2 doesn't have gay female romance plot, I'm not buying.

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Reposting

>It seems that all hope is lost
>The Dark Lord Mychel has summoned a giant tragedy tornado made up of crashed cars, humiliating photographs and bunkers far too expensive to buy for a teenage boy
>He's tied up the people of Arcadia Bay to one side of the train tracks and Chloe to the other
>He asks Max to choose who will get slammed by the tragedy tornado
>He plans to slam both sides of the train tracks anyway
>Suddenly two mysterious costumed adventurers with long fluffy ears fly to the rescue
>The superhero duo huff and they puff and they blow Mychel and his tragedy tornado back to the decadent land of baguettes and berets
>They burn away the restraints on Chloe and the people of Arcadia Bay with their heat vision and then fly away as they receive an enormous cheer
>A great big party is thrown throughout the town
>Max, Chloe, Kate, Lynn and Frank have a private picnic with their animal friends
>Lynn is still ecstatic, wondering who those mysterious saviors were
>Meanwhile Lynn's cuddly companion Dorothy winks at her sister bunny
>Then suddenly to everyone's shock, Horny the goat starts floating in the air
>He's still munching on one of Lisa's leaves as this happens

>>167198725
What about gay ladybois

REMEMBER ME 2 WHEN

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>>167198867
Then they go home and celebrate.

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>>167199461
DELETE THIS

>>167199461
This is a blue board, anon...

>>167199637
Yes, my pet! DESTROY THE FORNICATORS!

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>>167199859
My mother is not a dogmatic evangelical republican. It makes me very angry seeing someone suggest such sinful acts with my sister. But I am not your spokesbunny.

>>167200060
Dogma is the flaw of the papists, not our ascendant empowered way.

I am not your mother, indeed. I'm a human, created in the image of God destined for an after life of eternal salvation, whereas you are a poor creature doomed to the dust of the earth. You are the spawn of another rabbit. If you want your carrots, you will not forget that...Alice.

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>>167195901
>they really shouldn't make "same sex" some gimmick
It would be like when Bioware was parading around Dorian as OUR FIRST FULLY GAY CHARACTER! I love Dorian but his sexuality has nothing to do with it.

>I actually would love to see a platonic male/female relationship be explored. Roughly same-aged. Pretty rare.
Yeah the whole Joel/Ellie and Booker/Elisabeth thing is getting very tired at this point. Off the top of my head I can't even think of a game that centers around a platonic male/female relationship where they're the same age. That would very interesting.

>>167199157
Honestly that would be pretty interesting. It would still feel a tad bit gimmicky, but you'd have to respect them for trying something new. Especially considering the whole 'Tumblr: The Game' accusation would get thrown at them ten fold. Also when I think of trans-woman in gaming I think of Brianna Wu, and I never want to think about Brianna Wu. So maybe s2 would remedy that.

>>167200303
>around a platonic male/female relationship

A platonic male or female relationship could be just as cool if the characters were as defined and deep as LiS.

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>>167200294
>Dogma is the flaw of the papists, not our ascendant empowered way
>I am not your mother
>you are a poor creature doomed to the dust of the earth
STOP IMPERSONATING MY MAMA YOU BEARDED FRENCH FILTH!

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>>167200519

mfw Michel is each character's mother and father.

Max is beautiful.

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>>167201376

>>167201468
https://youtu.be/0ZyhB1-Yb4U

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>Dad walks in

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>>167202075
When Joyce and David are out of the house, we all know what Chloe and Max do.

[/spoiler] Hop [/spoiler] like rabbits!

>>167202317
...I wish I could rewind.

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>>167202317
Hopping is fun!

>>167202317
Screwed it up again. Unless you're doing it ironically.

>>167194728
It is totally possible. But I doubt it will happen because it would be Dontnod admitting their ending dilemma was terrible.
Max could have easily found numerous ways to either save Chloe and the town entirely, or save Chloe at the start of the week and then warn people before the storm.
The options weren't presented because they just had to have their binary 'choose your tragedy' ending with no middle ground.

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>>167202075
>Dad walks out

>>167202530
>Max could have easily found numerous ways to either save Chloe and the town entirely, or save Chloe at the start of the week and then warn people before the storm.

There are two problems with that assumption. The first is that Max had enough power left after the many jumps in Episode Five to complete such an act. Her power takes a physical toll on her. It's unclear if it could kill her, which would've made a better ultimatum at the end, but evidence suggests that it damages her brain.

Warning people before the storm would require the town to believe her. That's a level of suspension of disbelief unlikely in such a realistic game world.

>Screwed it up again. Unless you're doing it ironically.
I wish.

>>167203057
Nicely done.

>>167203247
I see that the power was harming Max, which is why she should stop its use immediately. Never using it again or only using it once she has a full understanding of it.
For all we know that one last photo jump to the bathroom may have killed her as well. Just another reason to NOT take that choice.

But had Max waited a day or two, letting her power build up and herself heal, she could have gone back using another photo and told Chloe they have to warn people before Friday. While it's true they will never convince the entire town, getting a few people to believe them could start a chain reaction. Everyone is trusted by somebody. Max and Chloe tell people that trust them, those people tell others, the word spreads.
It would take only one photojump and then Max can evaluate the results once she rejoins the present after the storm. If things turned out worse then she goes back one final time, knowing she tried what she could, and doesn't make any changes. Settling for the timeline where she saved Chloe and where Arcadia Bay did not get a full warning.

>>167203681
>getting a few people to believe them could start a chain reaction.

The only way she could do that would be to reveal her time travel powers. Best case scenario she convinces Joyce, David and a few of the kids at school to leave.

Still, the homeless woman, the fisherman and plenty of other people are at risk. There's no telling what will happen if others learn of her time traveling power. Say she tried to convince others without the power, she could wake up in a mental institution.

Judging by the damage in the Bae ending, it wasn't that bad. As long as she succeeded in drawing the town out of the business district, they'd be safe. The main people at risk are the homeless woman and the fisherman. She could convince the homeless woman to leave because she trusts Max for whatever reason. The fisherman...Chloe could fuck with his boat and keep him off the water that day and out of the town center.

It's possible, but difficult to play out the more I think about it.

>>167204531
I don't think she needs to reveal her powers to anyone else.
Just saying "Listen, there's a really big storm coming on Friday and you really need to either be somewhere safe of leave town" and some people would believe her. Kate, Warren, maybe Dana and a few others.
Chloe would just need to show actual sincerity to Joyce and David when she tells them, and they would see she is being dead serious.

I've seen some people saying Max can convince the Mayor of Police Chief to order an evacuation (By proving she can see the future) but I don't think that would be possible or beneficial. That would just bring her attention and make her a target for people.

>>167190205
>470 threads

When will you stop memeing about a shit game

>>167204950
She could convince Chloe to leave town, but Joyce, David and the rest are a stretch. They'd think she was crazy.

For the sake of argument, how would she convince them?

The only way I could see her doing it would be to use her powers to prove to the Mayor or Chief of Police through a letter or anonymous email and warn them at the same time.

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>>167205007
Thanks for the bump. Helping /lisg/ live that much longer.
It's hella appreciated.

>>167205183
This would be using the photograph from Episode 3, the one Max took of her and Chloe in bed. She enters the photo, tells Chloe they need to warn people (And also about the Dark Room and Jefferson) and she writes down what she knows in her journal so she and Chloe have the info needed.

If Chloe looked at Joyce and David with tears in her eyes, and told them they need to leave, they would believe her. Because she is being serious. Joyce would quickly see Chloe is not joking around about this.
Max would warn the few that would believe her, because some already are firmly on her side. She convinces those few people and then they can convince others.

An anonymous letter might work but she would need to prove that she could see into the future. Maybe offering the Mayor or Chief that night's (A night before Friday, obviously) lottery numbers or something. But even then it's still just a letter which may go unheeded.
They will never be able to warn or save everyone, but they can ensure the safety of those close to them and hope it spreads from there.

>>167204531
>>167204950
>>167205183
>>167205564
Y'all know that she could just tell everyone about the weather omens right?

No need for anyone to believe her powers, just jump back to the bathroom, pull the alarm, quickly jot down the 5 omens in her notebook and tell herself to tell everyone about them every single day (also that Jeffie killed Rachel).

If people won't believe her after day 4, when there are TWO MOONS in the sky, that dumbass town deserves to be demolished.

>>167206153
Exactly. She doesn't need to mention her power or anything. She just needs to tell a few people about the weather and say it's hinting towards a storm (Which doesn't even end up being that bad)

>>167205564
>but she would need to prove that she could see into the future. Maybe offering the Mayor or Chief that night's (A night before Friday, obviously) lottery numbers or something. But even then it's still just a letter which may go unheeded.
She could predict, in detail, what they'd find in The Dark Room or the police blotter from Thursday.

The weather omens may not occur as planned if predicted. The kids were taking selfies with the two moons. Didn't the tornado occur that night?

>>167207114
Two moons was Thursday night. That night Jefferson shot Chloe and kidnapped Max, who stayed in the Dark Room until sometime Friday afternoon.

>>167207328
Somehow I didn't think she was there as long...

>>167207404
Yeah. She must have been out for a while before waking up or at least sobering up from whatever she was injected with.
I think someone looked at the times and said the storm happened at like 1pm on Friday afternoon. But it seemed much later than that, I thought the storm happened at night.

>>167207814
>She must have been out for a while before waking up or at least sobering up from whatever she was injected with.
That didn't have to be that long. A couple hours, maybe three or four.

>But it seemed much later than that, I thought the storm happened at night.
That's what I thought, but the darkness could be a byproduct of the storm...

So I walked into the haze

>>167204531
>The homeless woman
You can warn her. And it actually works too, which makes Max not warning anyone else even more stupid

>>167208431
She was different from the rest. There was something weird about her to. Samuel would believe; the homeless woman would believe; but most townsfolk would think Max crazy.

Correct answer's already been established
>Catch police chief guy alone
>demonstrate powers
>demonstrate future knowledge
>get him to order an evacuation on Friday
Of course, you'll inevitably get a few retards who don't obey, the sort of people who go down to the beach to watch every time there's a tsunami warning.

>>167208143
It seems that way. I really thought that the storm was like around midnight or something and Saturday morning we see the sunrise when Chloe and Max drive away to do whatever.

There's also some theories that are more optimistic that say they left Arcadia Bay a day or two after the storm when they've already seen their friends and Chloe's family. That they're all already in tent shelters or getting the care they need.
Even though there's nothing to disclaim this, it seems a little far-fetched. But hey, the ending was vague so anyone can make up stuff to make it better/happier.

>>167208876
Max and Chloe are good enough people to check on David and Joyce before their departure. The blanket over the dead body indicates that it's no more than some hours since the storm stopped. Otherwise, they would've picked it up.

>>167209103
That's kind of what my thoughts were.
The covered bodies, the mostly cleared roads, no fires burning. That suggests to me that some time has passed since the storm and cleanup/rescue efforts were underway.
It really wouldn't surprise me if they left on Sunday or Monday morning.

>>167210240
Leaving a covered body in the middle of the street for multiple days isn't realistic though. Deer in the streets and some wreckage makes sense. It's a small town. Bringing in resources to repair the damage will take time, especially for damage to a non-residential area. Dead bodies on the streets for multiple days, though, are a bio-hazard.

>>167208346
>Tfw you don't get sad from this song cus you're not a baycuck

Feels hella good

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>>167210709
>Feels hella good
>Feels hella good killing an entire town
>Feels hella good knowing you killed your girlfriend's mom
>Feels hella good knowing you abandoned her for five years
>Feels hella good

>>167210501
Maybe it was pulled out of some rubble recently.

>>167210876
>killing an entire town
Stopped reading there. Over a year later and people still post that unoriginal crap.
Shame on you for that and for posting an image of Chloe while trying to bully Max.

>>167211278
>Maybe it was pulled out of some rubble recently.
That would imply a much more devastating storm. There would also be more street activity if fixing the place up was underway.

>>167211378
>Shame on you for that and for posting an image of Chloe while trying to bully Max.
>Shame on you for insulting me when I insulted someone else
>Shame on you for pointing out the flaws in my logic when I mocked someone else's opinion
>Shame on you because you-you-you suck!
Please...Tell me more. I'm listening.

>>167210876
>Feels hella good you know that Max couldn't possibly know going back will stop the storm
>Feels hella good you knew about the storm BEFORE getting your powers
>Feels hella good you didn't jump back to a photo you took AFTER getting your powers
>Feels hella good chaos theory is bullshit because the storm is a constant in every single timeline
>Feels hella good the Prescotts absolutely had something to do with the storm
>Feels hella good you didn't listen to a high school stalker about the causes of the storm despite all the evidence saying you can't stop it
>Feels hella good you didn't metagame the endings by picking the one that goes against all logic in the game
>Feels hella good you saved Chloe
>Feels hella good

Damn right it does

>>167212263
>Feels hella good to ignore foreshadowing and basic storytelling techniques in favor of what you want to see
>Feels hella good to pick endings that affirm the teenage romance you never had and pretended you didn't want
>Feels hella good to pretend Chloe wouldn't dump Max because she wasn't the good person you thought she was
>Feels hella good to ignore Chloe's muted response to Max choosing her and pretend she wasn't disappointed by the choice

>Damn right it does
It must.

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>Feels hella good to know most people were alright during the storm
>Feels hella good to know Kate is alright and her family came together to support her after learning the truth
>Feels hella good to know Rachel, Kate, and all of Jefferson's and Nathan's other victims got justice
>Feels hella good to know Chloe, Joyce, and David really stepped up to try to be a family
>Feels hella good to finally have confidence
>Feels hella good to have someone to talk with, laugh with, cuddle with, and even cry with
>Feels hella good to be in love and living out your dreams

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>>167212735
(u)

>>167213375
>Feels hella bad to know most of that was erased because saving Chloe in the bathroom summoned a storm

>>167208790
This brings up an odd dilemma. As far as we know Max can only travel through photographs for a brief amount of time. It would also seem that she can't move that far from the space photographed. The only way she could warn people is by leaving herself a note instructing herself about the storm and to warn people. This raises the question. At what point would auto-pilot Max believe her own warning?

If she traveled back to the start of the week I don't think auto-pilot Max would believe her own warning. Just like she doesn't believe her own vision of the storm. Keep in mind that a lot happens to Max in this week so the warning wouldn't be getting her full attention. If the warning included notes about Jefferson and Nathan would she believe those too?

Ideally she could combine the two things. Go back to the first photo before she saves Chloe, prove to herself that her information is reliable by texting David about Jefferson (the text will be saved on the phone), using that as proof instruct herself to evacuate the town. The police chief or mayor might be swayed if Max can prove that she busted Jefferson.

>>167213878
That doesn't even make sense. Put some effort into your trolling.

>>167212735
>Feels hella bad that you're straight up not even trying

Cmon bro put some effort into this

>>167214015
Another thing about photo travel, doesn't auto-Max basically die when real Max takes over?

Say Max goes back to the bathroom and leaves herself a note, and auto-max realizes it's from the future, if she discovers photo traveling by herself during the week, won't she realize that she's on autopilot mode and her consciousness will basically be overwritten and ended? Granted, I'm sure she'll push on to save Chloe, but the sudden existential crisis might shake up real Max's plan a bit.

>>167214015
>>167215810
The timeline continues on and rewrites itself. Max's power alters the universe and only she realizes it once she's able to catch back up to the present point (where she jumped from) and can realize any alterations.
Max does not die, her body/mind just revert back to the point she's in to prevent anyone from noticing she's different. Chloe is close enough to Max to notice whatever subtle changes there are between Max and her auto-pilot.

But auto-pilot Max is still Max, she's just no longer knowing what's coming in the future since that future she came from has been erased and will be over-written by whatever happens until time reaches the point where Max initiated the photojump, which is when Max regains control/consciousness.

So say Max writes down a bunch of info for herself and Chloe to use. Once auto-pilot Max assumes control, Chloe will inform her that she was acting weird and when Max asks something or acts confused, Chloe will inform her that she wrote something down. Max reads her own writing talking about the future and the instructions of how to fix or avert some things.
They follow these directions until the point where Max regains control and notices if they worked or not.

>>167215810
That didn't stop Max from focusing on the investigation when she photo-jumped the first time.

>>167215810
>doesn't auto-Max basically die when real Max takes over?
Not necessarily. I personally buy into the many worlds theory. As in Max just jumps her consciousness into different dimensions where she originally made the decisions that have lead her into whatever space time she finds herself in. Max's conciseness can't be overwritten because it exists simultaneously and infinitely with every other version of her consciousness. I used the word "auto-pilot" because it was simpler to understand. But I don't think an auto-pilot Max really exists, just different versions of her consciousness, just because we experience the game from a single, linear perspective, doesn't mean it's the only one that exists.

So basically I don't think auto-Max can die because that would imply that there's only one true Max. Whereas I believe there is many. I don't think a consciousness can end because there's no definitive starting point either. There's no solid evidence for this theory it just makes sense to me. That probably doesn't make any sense but It's the only way I can explain it.

>>167216683
>The timeline continues on and rewrites itself.
I disagree that there is a single time-line. I think when she returns to the point where she 'jumped' her consciousness in one time-line remains unaltered, as in she retains none of the knowledge gained from her travels, and another universe exists where she does retain that information.

>Chloe is close enough to Max to notice whatever subtle changes there are between Max and her auto-pilot.
I agree that in some time-lines Chloe notices. But in some she doesn't, and in some there are no changes to notice.

>>167217973
The whole single or multiple timelines thing was never confirmed for either.
Personally, I think there is only one timeline and universe, which Max can alter and will be the only one to notice it happened.
The idea there are numerous timelines horrifies me.
It also boils any choice down to 'Which timeline would Max prefer to live in' since all choices would exist in some reality.

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>>167218151
Talk about deja-vu huh? Like I said there's no solid evidence for the many worlds theory, nor is there any against it. But in the interest of fairness you could have prefaced your post as a mere interpretation. Like you say, a linear time-line is never confirmed either. But this topic belongs more on a philosophy board than here.

>It also boils any choice down to 'Which timeline would Max prefer to live in' since all choices would exist in some reality.
But for the record I still really like this interpretation. I'm also flattered that you remember that I said it, almost word for word if I recall.

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What absolute dorks!

S2 should have a villain with powers similar to the hero

>>167215350
Looking good, Kate!

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Goodnight /lisg/.
Stay comfy and do not give in to or fall for bait that tries to demonize Max.

>>167218151
>they try to imply multiple realities
>but this would mean Max says "later assholes", and jumps into another universe every time she uses her powers
>she doesn't actually save anyone
>yet they waste all this fucking time trying to guilt you into "saving the bay", and not just asking Max which reality she wants to exist in

Michel's a pseudo-intellectual, who can't actually follow his own ideas out to their logical conclusions.

I want to water Lisa and give her a proper amount of sunlight!

I want to cuddle Lynn and read her a bedtime story!

>>167223995
There's no solid evidence for the many worlds theory in he game, they never try to imply it. It's obviously not something they were going for. There's a lot to criticize about the games use of time travel but the many worlds theory is a non-issue.

>>167225441
They actually do though, when Max has the option to sit down after returning from the AU. Also all the graffiti with "hole to another universe" is rather suggestive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAbxRN-ydUM

>>167226504
>They actually do though, when Max has the option to sit down after returning from the AU.
What does she say specifically? The intro to episode two goes out of its way to show that Max doesn't understand her powers. So it would have to be something pretty substantial to count for anything. Probably just a throw away line.

>Also all the graffiti with "hole to another universe" is rather suggestive.
Not really. There's also Illuminati symbols all over the place, even in Chloe's truck. If that suggests a many worlds interpretation then Chloe's "think like a man" writing makes her (him) tans-gendered.

My best guess is that they were going for a Donnie Darko-esque tangent universe. Saving Chloe opens up a pocket universe where most of the game takes place. This pocket (or tangent) universe is unstable because it only exists to correct a single mistake (Chloe not dying). If Chloe lives than the universe will continue destroying itself until it eventually resets back to the moment Max photographed the butterfly. If Max never lets Chloe die than the universe stays stuck in an eternal loop. At least to me that's the only way the writing makes some form of sense.

>>167226504
What exactly does she say? "Welcome back to the real world", is it that you are referring to? That's just a figure of speech. And she obviously cannot know.

The photo transitions are pretty conclusive meta-confirmation that they consider it erasing and rewriting the timeline. Not least because photos are established as "pieces of time" in the lore that only exist if the moment in time they capture does.

There's two or three things that could be taken as implications for multiverse stuff, but it just doesn't give the game or lore anything, it's irrelevant at latest due to the fact that we cannot know, and stuff like >>167223995 never made much sense either, because the Maxes we don't see are just as much Max as the one we do, meaning nothing would matter, even less than if we assume a singular, linear timeline. It's not choosing "which universe Max wants to live in". It's not choosing at all, as she lives through all. Then it's only about the one we see, as players, and that's a perspectival argument you have regardless of assuming multiverse.

>>167227174
I also think it's possible the tangent universe thing is kind of what they were going for. I wouldn't say it's stuck in a loop if Max saves Chloe because we have no reason to believe so (if anything, the visions would indicate that she's stuck in a loop without Chloe), but the tangent universe is collapsing, and as opposed to the supposed mechanics of DD's collision, the tangent doesn't threaten to collapse the original with it. It just creates a tornado fallout.

But well, it's still complete speculation on a piece of magical realism fiction with spirit animals that we know they didn't put too much thought behind as far as the sci-fi and even just internal consistency of its time travel is concerned. It's just as possible that they cheesily meant the butterfly changing its flight path due to preventing the shot/triggering the alarm is what causes everything, going with the literal "butterfly effect".

>>167203247
>Her power takes a physical toll on her.
We actually have no reason to believe her photo jumps take any toll on her whatsoever, physically.

>Warning people before the storm would require the town to believe her.
As >>167206153 said, she can foretell the impossible atmospherical abnormalities. If people don't heed her warning after she predicts random snowfall, solar eclipses and twin moons, they just about Darwin'd themselves.

Not to mention that the storm apparently sat bayside for a considerable amount of time before hitting shore. Ridiculously, trains were apparently already being thrown around then, but with that even the most daft non-believers would seek shelter once it starts to form on the horizon.

>>167207814
>>167208143
She was captured thursday night, and the storm hits friday morning, around 10 or what was it. Note that she photo-jumps after waking up in the Dark Room, spends time in alternated universes while time keeps flowing. This time she'd have also spent in the Dark Room in the original universe once she restores it. He takes her there while drugged, has his photo session, leaves her alone probably to get rid off Nathan and Chloe's, and potentially Victoria's body, then returns hours later in the morning where he weirdly got a chair out of nowhere and tied Max to it. The first scene in Episode 5 is meant to be early friday morning. Then the focus odyssey takes a couple of hours she'd have spent sitting there, and ultimately we return there and Jefferson has returned as well, going into rambles again and working on his shots.

>>167228032
>The photo transitions are pretty conclusive meta-confirmation that they consider it erasing and rewriting the timeline.
Not really. It could just as likely be showing Max's consciousness entering a different space time. Like neurons being destroyed and created (the visuals always seemed reminiscent of that to me). This could tie into her nosebleeds. I wouldn't say it's conclusive of anything.

>Then it's only about the one we see, as players, and that's a perspectival argument you have regardless of assuming multiverse.
I guess it would then come down to whether or not you view Max primarily as a character or as the player character. If she's viewed as the player character then there's some meta-textual themes going on that explore what meaning binary choices have in virtual spaces. Viewed just as a character I could see how it might seem nihilistic. But I think meaning is given to a work, not implicit.

>I wouldn't say it's stuck in a loop if Max saves Chloe because we have no reason to believe so
If you believe the tangent universe is collapsing then surely it's finite, the world is heading towards a state of dissonance at an increasing rate, we are shown the world becoming more chaotic as the game progresses. If the tangent universe isn't finite then why not just have the game set in the primary universe? If the tangent universe is finite then why wouldn't it reset itself when it reaches a state of total dissonance? Thus we have a time loop.

>the tangent doesn't threaten to collapse the original with it. It just creates a tornado fallout.
The think it was meant to threaten the primary universe. It seems silly that the universe would give up on killing Chloe after just a tornado. I think DN wanted to infer that Chloe living would heighten the state of chaos in the tangent universe.

>going with the literal "butterfly effect".
I think the literal translation of the term "butterfly effect" was just an allusion to chaos theory.

>>167227591
What kind of heroic adventures would Kate get up to in her sector of space?

>>167229551
>I wouldn't say it's conclusive of anything.
Fair, it's not really conclusive. But it does suggest the one more so than the other. If she were jumping universes, an animation would be more fitting where the photos fly away, fall of, and are swapped out. As is, they are literally showing moments in time being erased from existence and others replacing them.

>meta-textual themes
While that's a valid argument, I personally prefer the meaning of the work to be a more immanent quality to its story and world. Well, with this piece of work absolutely; with art in general, I think that modern meta-approach is very interesting to me too.

>Thus we have a time loop.
Sorry, I don't really understand your reasoning there, could you explain that again?

Either way, it's not like tangent universes are a scientifically established thing, or that we'd have working theories on them. My idea of what they might have thought could be happening is that they are in the original universe, but another universe is mixing in with it, due to Max's time-meddling. The collision is looking to resolve itself, and that either happens when Max destroys the branch that led them to collide to begin with (the bathroom incident), or they resolve as the tornado, the energy of the tangent discharging gradually over the week and ultimately in the storm.

Obviously pseudo-science, as DD's idea of tangent universes altogether is as well.

>give up on killing Chloe
>state of chaos in the tangent universe
I don't think the universe even is after Chloe. And I don't see that Chloe living induces chaos either, as she dies and the storm still comes. But this is drifting into too tangential (ha) a topic anyway: it's mostly baseless speculation whether they thought of a tangent universe at all.

>allusion to chaos theory
Perhaps, but the butterfly does change its path depending on whether Chloe gets shot or Max pulls the alarm. That would be the literal, romantical "flap of wings causes storm" thing.

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Here's that thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG81SUMYRuU

Pretty neat.

>>167230186
>fly away, fall of, and are swapped out
If we were just taking the photos as "little pieces of time" then sure. But photography is also used to reflect power dynamics. With Jefferson it's obvious. With Victoria the coldness of her work reflects how she feels the need to create an impression of power where it may not exist. That's why her work comes across as cold, detached and in-genuine. Max photographs herself to search for an identity, to take power over her own life. Nathan feels powerless so he photographs dead stuff or tied up girls. I could go on. In a very real sense time and memories are almost synonymous, so the universe transitions are used to explore the power of memories. Showing us Max's mind, not some cosmic truth. I believe the process by witch the photographs are destroyed/re-written are supposed to make us feel dis-empowered. I think the memories being violently torn apart are supposed to reflect the increased levels of chaos that the changes cause. You couldn't achieve that same effect if the photos were just swapped out. Something to think about.

>to be a more immanent quality to its story and world
Well a lot of Anons here would ague that DN's intention with the ending doesn't count for anything. I also recall you arguing that the authors intent was irrelevant with the LiS Requiem for a Dream comic. Death of the Author isn't really a selective thing. Just saying.

>could you explain that again?
Yeah, but it won't be much better. I'm pretty much just asserting it's Donnie Darko logic because that makes sense to me.

If the tangent universe is collapsing then the end state of the collapse must be complete dissonance, complete dissonance leads to a collision between the tangent and primary universe. Either Chloe dies or the collision occurs, in the event of complete dissonance the universe will rest itself to avoid the collision. If Chloe isn't killed by Nathan, complete dissonance occurs again so the universe resets itself. Time loop.

>>167232164
>In a very real sense time and memories are almost synonymous
While that is an interesting argument the validity of which in the context of the game we could lose ourselves in as a tangent, this is definitely a stretch compared to my interpretation of the animation.

Max has no nosebleeds after photo jumps. She doesn't remember any of the things in those new photos. Her mind is not changed, but exactly the same, which precisely is the weird thing about those jumps. Photos are established as pieces of time in the game that are lore-tied to the existence of the moment in time they depict, as such transcend mere material reality - why would them erasing photos and replacing them with other ones to you be reminiscent of neuronal restructuring, when the game explicitly establishes this meaning of photos and give us a meta-animation that erases them? That's not nearly as "possible" as them simply, literally showing moments in time being erased and others taking their place. The one is a stretch, the other is what we outright see.

>Death of the Author isn't really a selective thing. Just saying.
This has nothing to do with death of the author. It's about a way of interpreting a piece of fiction or art, and choosing whether you do so in a meta sense detached from the context of the work itself or not. It's not about intentions.

The only reason why it might not be selective is because the work itself encourages either the one or other way of looking at it. And LiS absolutely is an immersive and authentic experience - whether it inspires one to take interpretation to a meta level that revolves more around the player discovering himself, rather than discovering the story and its characters, is a subjective inclination, and for me, it definitely doesn't inspire that want to abstract the fiction and reflect on myself, rather than the fiction itself.

>>167232164
>end state of the collapse must be complete dissonance
>dissonance leads to a collision
>universe will rest itself to avoid the collision
But those are just it-is-so statements. I'm not even sure DD establishes all of that?

And either way, my point was that the assumption of such a tangent universe collision, as well as the workings of it, are entirely speculative, and I don't see much merit into going into it with regards to LiS, as it does not solve or give the story much, and not least because we know it often isn't even meant to make sense.

As likeweise, my butterfly effect or tangent universe model are not really worth getting into either, because my larger point was not that I think those are necessarily valid explanations, but that the tangent universe idea is completely speculative with regards to LiS anyway, that it could definitely work as some such tangent model without being a loop, and that there's a plethora of other, equally as "possible" (as in: not confirmed or denied in the game, because it, again, simply is not a well thought-out, internally consistent sci-fi world) theories, such as it's just the butterfly changing its path, or the Prescotts, Rachel, or any kind of native magic, Max's time powers simply messing stuff up more and more, maybe actually Chloe being supposed to die right there and then for some inexplicable reason, or the alarm not to go off, etc., and so on.

I think DD was an influence they drew from, especially for some of the time-wimey stuffs... but I just don't think the model fits or works in LiS' context, or has much merit or value even if we do squint and stretch hard to make it fit.

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>>167230186
But like you say, there's no reference for tangent universes outside of fiction. It's no more valid than your theory of the tangent universes energy discharging over time. Though my interpretation is more in line with chaos theory and Donnie Darko's narrative, but again, it's mostly just waxing philosophical for the sake of it.

>I don't think the universe even is after Chloe
I strongly disagree with that assessment, given how many times she almost dies in just one week. But in this specific instance I was just giving my best guess as to what DN were trying to convey, not my personal views. Can we both agree that DN try to present Chloe as the cause of the storm? Or was the scene were she gets stuck on the train tracks just supposed to reflect her clumsiness?

>That would be the literal, romantical "flap of wings causes storm" thing.
That's what I meant it's a literal allusion to chaos theory. I think they wanted us to infer that Max may have stolen the butterflies powers or something to that extent, no doubt it's supposed to be ambiguous.

>That's not nearly as "possible" as them simply, literally showing moments in time being erased and others taking their place.
I don't know man we're getting really off topic at this point. To continue arguing my stance I'd have to talk more about the nature of memories than anything LiS related. I'll just say that I view the universe jump as something far too esoteric to coincide that your interpretation as more likely than mine, at least not without us getting really off topic.

>It's not about intentions
You used the word "immanent" meaning "existing or operating within; inherent." Isn't that almost synonymous with author intention? How can one exist without the other? How far off topic can we possibly get?

Will /lisg/ survive until Season 2 announcement?

>>167233857
>It won't have Max and Chloe

who cares about s2 anyway

>>167233379
>Can we both agree that DN try to present Chloe as the cause of the storm? Or was the scene were she gets stuck on the train tracks just supposed to reflect her clumsiness?
The latter. This has come up often and I'm honestly not in the mood to get into it right now, but Chloe dies 1. far fewer times than people make it out, 2. in ways that are stupid and reckless and expected - if the universe was literally trying to kill a teenager, it wouldn't have to rely on her playing with guns and 3. she dies and the storm still comes. And she doesn't die in the AU either.

Well, we can agree that they do tie Chloe's death in the bathroom to the storm, obviously. But this could have a plethora of reasons, and I think it is circumstantial: Max's powers mess with time and gradually fuck things up... and Chloe's possible death is not only the reason she discovers her powers due to, but her being saved also leads to many more time-messing in the course of the week Max wouldn't have done without her.

>That's what I meant it's a literal allusion
Oh. Yeah, as I've said, I had only brought it up to say the tangent universe idea is not any more (or less) valid than other, sometimes equally as more-or-less silly speculations. I do think DD was an influence, and some of that is in there... but then we should rather be talking about the sci-fi and lore of DD, because that one actually has the ambition and lore-depth behind the sci-fi stuff, that we know LiS simply doesn't.

>really off topic
Again, I think your argument is interesting and in another context (and time :p) would be worth talking about. But I just don't see that it is equal in terms of the argument that what we see is what we see. The esoterics in mine are consistent with the narrative. Tthey do not exclude yours. But make them more of a stretch. Your larger point was fair: it is not necessarily conclusive.

>>167234030
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>>167234110
What if the main character is a boy?

>>167234110
>tfw /lisg/ will slowly start to forget about Max and Chloe once the new cast is revealed

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>>167234123
Cosplay counts right?

>>167234286
They'll be remembered. Kate, Victoria and the other girls however, are destined to be forgotten.

>>167234286
All are welcome in the waifu pantheon my child.

Also this general is way too autistic to forget about them

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>>167233103

>>167234102
*fewer times than people make it out, and increasingly fewer times as well

And well, she is dying in the AU, but if the universe was out to kill her, why not just do it? And the environment is still acting up, suggesting the storm is still coming even though she's dying.

It's just not Final Destination and the universe having it out for her. For that, the scenarios are too few and too sensible.


>>167233379
>Isn't that almost synonymous with author intention?
The one is about the meaning you derive from a piece of art, personally, and how you do, the ways in which and what it means to you. The other is about analysing it and wondering which meaning is valid, or "belongs to" the piece. Death of the author says no meaning belongs to the piece but the one retrieved by interpretation. But this is not about whether the meaning I derive from the game "belongs" to it or not, how valid it is, but whether I prefer to see it in one way or the other, how I want to reflect upon its meaning. Which is principally selective, but the work itself obviously can influence the selection and make it mean something to you in this way or the other, and LiS just feels to me like a very non-abstract experience. Very raw and authentic. Even the certainly intended allegorical meaning of much of it does not tangibly come through, let alone the feeling that it puts focus on me as a player, and encourages me to reflect on myself. If anything, I've always felt as if I am mostly observer.

But that's subjective. If you really see (and feel) merit and meaning in LiS as a piece of fiction that has artistic value in a meta-textual way of exploring the player as a choice-maker in a virtual space, or the meaning those choices can have in that abstract context, I do think that's valid and a way in which the game can have meaning for someone.

But you are right, that's another off-topic topic, and maybe it does conflate the two concepts more so than I can see right now.

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>>167234363
If done rightly.

Can't wait for all the S1 vs S2 fics and fan arts.

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IT'S THAT TIME OF THE MONTH

http://strawpoll.me/12253094
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>Season 2 comes out
>Main character has time powers
>It doesn't cause a tornado or any other disaster
>Shitstorm ensues

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>Reminder /lisg/ are a bunch of emotional-coward-troglodytes who just don't __GET__ the ending.

>>167235756
>It doesn't cause a tornado or any other disaster
>inb4 an ending like in the butterfly effect movie

>>167234102
>The latter
That is by far the weirdest stance I've ever seen you take. Fair enough if you're not in the mood to discuss it, I'm pretty tired myself. I won't do the usual green text breakdown of your points.

>I do think DD was an influence
One of the first things I noticed about the game was Max's Frank (Frank the Bunny not bean man) sketch in her notepad. It contextualized a lot of the time travel elements in my mind.

>LiS simply doesn't
We've talked before about how LiS is an odd amalgamation of pop culture references. It's one of my favorite conversations we've had. It's even more interesting considering the whole Blackwell as an intentionally illogical space thing. Maybe the time travel is illogical as a homage to the more kitschy elements of American pop culture, how the details don't matter as long as you enjoy the ride. That probably wasn't the intention but it's fun to think about.

>Your larger point was fair: it is not necessarily conclusive.
I still think I can make a good argument that would at least put us on equal footing. But as you say, another time :p

>if the universe was out to kill her, why not just do it?
Was that rhetorical? I thought you weren't in the mood.

>I've always felt as if I am mostly observer.
Max herself says the very same thing. I wonder, who out of us related to Max the most? Do I see her more as the player character than a character because I related to her more, or less? The answer might not be important but it's an interesting question.

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>>167234460
>maybe it does conflate the two concepts more so than I can see right now.
To me immanent implies some form of intrinsic value, this is the antitheses to Death of the Author. What I was referring to when I said meaning is given to a work, not implicit, was your view that the game would be more nihilistic in the context of the many worlds theory. My point was the game wouldn't lose any meaning if you didn't want it to. Not because the story is unchanged but because you could choose not to view the many different Max's worlds as meaningless. It seems we just weren't on the same page with that one. A surprisingly rare occurrence.

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Brooke is bae.

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Chloe is dead.

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No she isN'T!

>>167201443
Yeah I'm gonna need a source on that pic, is it cropped from a larger one?

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>>167241369
I posted it a little while ago. It's from kunaike's twitter, and a WIP that it doesn't seem she'll ever finish. She also had this Max on there. Take it.

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Breakfast at the new and improved Two Whales!

>>167235756
That would just be definitive proof that Max didn't cause any disaster

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>>167190205
>friendly reminder that you will never know what the VA cast truly believes because michel stands behind them in every interview

>/lisg/ doesn't GET the ending
/lisg/ understands the ending better than any other fanbase cluster and more than the writers that bumbled their way through the story.

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>>167241743
>Draws great punk girl art
>Is a massive furry who unironically draws sparkledogs

I'm not sure how I feel about this

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>>167235565
>3 votes
G-goodness!

Max did nothing wrong and cannot be blamed for whatever happened to Arcadia Bay

>>167244365
That is true.

>>167244365
Max a good girl

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>>167244365
>>167244551
>>167244990

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Just a little weird, but it still works. New render from this guy.

>>167245656
Hella cute! I really like the nose piercings. I could both of them getting their respective ones there.
Only downside is it's another example where the clothes look too high quality.

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>never had somebody who would call me their best friend in my entire life, barely have any friends period
>currently have literally no friends, spend days trying to forget how crushingly alone I am
>play this game thinking its simply a cute, quirky girl doing time travel hijinks in highschool
>cry bitch tears throughout the entire game, especially at happy, serene moments

this game totally destroyed me

>>167247549
It's okay, Anon. We're here for you
:3

Is anyone getting Horizon Zero Dawn because Ashly voices the main character?

I am, after it goes on sale

>>167247829
>console exclusive

Nope.

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Basically me rn
Just going through everything and cleaning

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>>167250574
Very productive!

Make sure to put some music on. And don't forget to relax and enjoy the cleanliness afterwards.

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>>167251267
Yup. Had some stuff playing,. Even some of the game soundtrack instrumentals
My allergies are killing me but in the long run it will be worth it. Can't even open a window for air because lolbasement

Max smells...

>>167252932
fresh

>>167252932
great

>>167252932
Like almond shampoo, cucumber handcream, clean laundry.
Oh, and a little like Chloe.

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>>167254459
Eventually they'll be wives <3

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>Christmas already feels so long ago
Max, rewind!

>>167254530
They're now.

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>>167254804
>Mrs. Maxine Price

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>>167255193
For a whole year, whenever someone refers to her as "Mrs. Price", she'd giggle a little.

Chloe would also still tease her about it, like the dorky girlfriend she is even when they are long married.

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>>167255193
>Mrs. Alice Caulfield
>Mrs. Lisa Marsh
What to pick? What to pick?!

>>167256248
That is tough. both sound good.

Max knew she wanted to take Chloe's name. Chloe Caulfield didn't sound right and she wanted to carry on William's name since Joyce is technically a Madsen.
Only problem was Max Price sounded like some cheesy spy movie franchise (Which Chloe joked about) so Max started using Maxine a little more for formal stuff, but still goes by Max.

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>>167257000

Max deserves nothing but happiness.

>>167257550
I agree 100%

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>tfw not looking forward to any other games in 2017
>season 2 not yet announced

I dont know how to feel

>>167259686
I'm pretty sure Chloe realized she was gay long before that.
Too bad Surimistick went kind of insane and deleted/blocked everything because of drama. I liked their art and stories :(

What power will the S2 protag get?
Rewinding time was such a simple but interesting power.

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[Barks in lesbian]

>>167263797
Chloe is a bitch

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>>167260136
I missed that drama, what happened?

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Admit it /lesg/: you cried like a bitch at some point in this game.

>>167262682
Mind reading could be interesting, maybe? Might also work for a mystery kind of story

>>167265028
She was working on Love is Strange, a bunch of drama happened, she was removed from the project and replaced, she said not to make a big deal out of it, but I guess people on both sides started flinging shit.
So she hid her account and deleted everything. Unfortunately others have done it as well. I get if you want to leave a community, but why take everything down so people can't enjoy it any more?

>>167265172
I cried during the scene of Max saying goodbye to Chloe in the alternate timeline and then trying to tell younger Chloe to stay strong and that she's not alone. That hurt knowing Max couldn't make things better and that Chloe has to endure those five years before things can get better.
I teared up when they found Rachel but at that point I was kind of glad that Chloe got closure and didn't have to worry about her friend being in pain or peril.

Watching/playing again and I also got tears during Episode 1 in Chloe's room where Santa Monica Dream is playing. Chloe being sad, talking about her life since Max left, and also being clearly worried about Rachel. It hurt seeing that once you know the characters and have the full picture.

>>167265201
I really liked that one idea with the protag being able to see ghosts and different spirits are summoned depending on what music is played.
I thought of the ghost idea but then another Anon brilliantly combined it with a musical theme. Now I really want that in the game but it won't happen unless someone influential from Dontnod lurks here.

Mind reading might me cool or maybe being able to control someone's actions for a brief period of time. Having to do what needs to be done quickly but without getting noticed.

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>>167247549
NO DEPRESSION!

>>167265172
N-no...

>pic
Is that new?

>>167265172
Nope. I'm curious though, when did /lisg/ cry throughout the game?

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>>167262682
> Rewinding time was such a simple but interesting power.

The problem is that it's not true.

We have two rewind modes:

1) "Freestyle rewind"
2) "Photo rewind"

plus the "Timefreeze power".

It's messy. Far more complicated than "A little something for us Tempunauts"

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>>167265172
>>167267923
Felt a lump in my throat when Alt Chloe asked me to euthanise her.
And obviously the ending.

Initially I just got angry with the game for forcing me to make such difficult choices. I had to take a break before I could continue.

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>>167265172
This happens to people who go on playing french existentialist games far beyond what is humanly reasonable.

Let this be a warning to all of you.

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>>167267923
I didn't cry during the game but oh man did I cry after. A lot.

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>>167267774
>Is that new?
Yeah, actually. I finished the game recently, and went trawling through the /lesg/ archives. Found the ones where all the major reveals and sad plot twists happen. Thought it'd make a nice collage.

>>167268408
I don't think it's that complicated. Rewinding time but staying still yourself. Being able to hold onto object (and possible people)
Freezing time is self explanatory.
The photo jump was an interesting aspect but it too wasn't too hard to figure out. Though it carried a big risk because changing things in the far past means a longer catch up time where you can come out to a reality that seems very different from the one you left from.

The only time Max's power acted weirdly or wildly was the very first time she used it where she sent herself backwards. But that was only the one time and as she got older, and practiced, I'd imagine Max learns to control it more and also learn some pretty neat tricks.

>>167269246

It's very complicated once you try to make sense of it beyond a cute storytelling device.

Notice that the first time, the rewind actually rewinds time - Max is back in the classroom. This never happens afterwards, she stays like a fish in flowing water (which is hard to explain or to make sense of ... will there be two Maxen at some time t after a rewind? One in the bathroom upstairs and one in the garage for example?)

I say we have actually three rewind powers and a timefreeze/ultraspeed power.

What's lisg's opinion on Daniel?

>>167269806
Daniel was chill. I thought he was a tiny bit creepy but he was alright

>>167269806
I think most folk on 4chan are bound to sympathise with him, seeing as we can relate.


...no? Just me?

>>167265172
Didn't cry because someone spoiled the game for me before I even finished ep3.
Though I laid on my bed staring at the ceiling for a solid hour before continuing with the game.

I had to go to a dinner event right after killing alt Chloe in ep4. I couldn't eat anything that night.

>>167270260
Yeah, just you.

just kidding, he was the only character in this game I could relate to

>>167269918
>tiny bit creepy

Warryn is a lot more creepier than him you know

>>167270260
Actually I can relate to abusive dad ;_;

I made myself my own Life is Strange clue board today :D
http://imgur.com/a/M31ti

>>167269918
Poor Daniel. He's harmless.
>>167271306
Holy fuck.
Noice.

>>167266776
One reason I thought mind reading might fit is because just like Max could go back in time and adjust her actions to make people like her, being able to read people's minds would allow you to do the same.

But I really dig the ghost idea! Summoning spirits with music feels a little too fantasy rpg-ish for me though.

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>>167271306
>http://imgur.com/a/M31ti

Nice

The red lines make me think of ley lines. Hmm... Leyland ... yeah.

>>167269806
He's cool.
I think once he gains more confidence, he will improve his appearance, lose weight, and do pretty well for himself. Maybe him and Brooke will end up together if she doesn't end up with Warren.

>>167271306
Nice! Here's the real mystery, why does Frank have that tattoo on his neck when he doesn't have it in the game (Until after the Bay ending).
I know that's, for once, actually just an oversight but it's weird.

>>167269660
>The very first rewind was Max triggering BITES THE DUST

Can you play LiS in 4K?

>>167269918
>Daniel
SORRY MAX. I GUESS YOU ARE TOO ASHAMED TO LET ME DRAW YOU.

>>167269660
We have:

>Soft Rewind:
Max can rewind time up to a few minutes, stays in place. People don't seem to notice until it's important to the plot (infiltrating Principal Well's office). Can carry items with her.

>Hard Rewind
Max jumps back almost instantly to a specific time and place, her position in not conserved, yet her memories are. Cannot carry items with her. Unpredictable, could be a one-time thing when she first acquires her powers.

>Photojumping:
Max jumps back to a "snapshot" of time through a photo, as long as she is in the vicinity of that photo's "snapshot". She retains her powers and her memories, but nothing else. Can influence the timeline for a few minutes until she wakes up back in the point of time she initially jumped. Autopilot-Max takes over during the difference in time.

>Timefreeze:
Freezes time (duh). Sort of a "sleep mode" when Max overuses her powers. Very straining on Max, everything feels much heavier.

>>167191925
Not that I can think of

>>167276836
The timefreeze is also a failsafe for when something's about to happen she absolutely doesn't want, or when her life's in danger. For the latter we don't know, but the former failsafe is still vulnerable to her physical condition (drugs or exhaustion for example leave her unable to freeze and rewind things she doesn't want).

Brooke deserves someone better than Warryn.

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>>167278832
She can end up with Daniel
Or maybe even Stella

>>167279678
And of course when they get to the drive in, Max is there with Chloe in the pickup truck

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Wake up Dorothy.

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is this pic real? wtf?

>>167281001
Manlets are pathetic.

>>167276727
Very nice fan art.

>>167281001
They're leaking still shots from the live action series.

>>167267072
I imagine that happening then Max photojumping back in time to start the shit all over again.

>>167260136
That's from an alternative universe where Max visited Arcadia Bay regularly after moving to Seattle.

>>167256452
>>167255571

Hence Pricefield.

I can hear Chloe saying, "the Price is right" in the lead up to the wedding whenever Max is wrong.

>>167254530
Not in Trump's America.

>>167254232
When did the wearing flowers theme start and why?

>>167250574
Once they're married, Chloe finds the bottles.

>>167247549
It was rough for all of us.
>hugs

>>167245656
For some reason I don't see Max getting visible tattoos or piercings. Maybe some ink that she can hide underneath her shirt or a subtle tattoo on her lower arm, but nothing too obtrusive. Chloe even comments that she doesn't have much of a style. Despite her artistic leanings, Max places little value on aesthetics. She cares more about comfort. Piercings are a tad high maintenance for her.

>>167281336
>They're leaking still shots from the live action series.
kek if that's true. Every scene, Max has to almost crawl and Jeffershit is on a box or stilts.

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>tfw Fielfield will never be a thing

>>167282865
That's not true. She masturbates to the thought of kissing Chloe every night after the Bay ending.

>>167282972
>Implying the bay ending actually happened

>>167283903
>implying episode 5 happened

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>>167254661

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>>167285263
>The snow globe is on the shelf in a house inhabited by deer. One deer notices it and tears up as her deer friend's deer dad walks out the door not knowing he'll be shot by a hunter on the way to meet his deer wife.

>Get it? Deer wife?
>pic related

>>167285837
Silly rabbit. Tricks are for kids.

And by tricks I mean paint and by kids I mean Victoria. What do people see in her other than another uptight, snobby bully?

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>>167285837
>>167285942
>Reminder that these animals have been gassed with carbon monoxide and are dead.

>>167286563
Come on. Even I'm not that cruel.

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>>167286563
Fuck off Michel!

>>167287090
>Max rewinds until she jumps over 9,000 times, turns Super Saiyan and flies off into the horizon to stop Frieza Prescott from summoning the tornado.
>Ending problem solved.

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>>167286776
>>167287090
Just imagine how many animals, pets etc were sucked up by the tornado. Spun around in circles so fast their limbs were ripped off. Imagine the character growth Max and Chloe will get when the charred, limbless body of Frank's dog lands on the hood of Chloe's truck as the shelter from the storm together, contemplating their selfishness. A final realisation that they are horrible people.

Beautiful!

>>167287817
Fans of the Bae ending will criticize Michel, but they're just as big post-modern scumbags as him. They ignore the intended meaning of the story, mock his belief in imagination and pick at his use of literary techniques--for example the foreshadowing storm vision before Max first uses her power--to force their canon onto the game.

That brings about an interesting point. What if the vision was Max gaining her power, but she simply didn't activate it until Chloe was shot? That would rectify the narrative and set Max's use of the power as the cause of the tornado.

>Page 10

JUST

I want to hug Max and stroke her hair

I want to hug Chloe and stroke her hair.

>>167281746
I could see both Chloe and Max saying "The Price is right"
And I'm sure Max's parents won't mind. I kind of get the feeling there's more Caulfields than just Max, Ryan, Vanessa, and Lisa.

>>167293973
It doesn't matter what they think. It's a personal choice. There's no reason either of them have to change their names.

>>167294165
I think Max would want to just to be traditional and also because it's a possessive thing.
To her, having Chloe's name would be the ultimate step in joining her.
Chloe is only one we know of, aside from an uncle we never meet, that's a Price. Once she dies (Some 80 or so years in the future) that name, her family legacy, and William's memory, comes to an end.
So even if they can't make a child, unless there's some science breakthrough, Max can expand the Price name a little bit and if they adopt they carry it on in some way.

Again with the obnoxious namefagging? Not even going to trip because so many people hid it.
Any more idiotic "theories" to present as well?

>>167295619
The both of them are extremely possessive.
Max says "My Chloe" more than once and Chloe outright says "I don't think anyone is good enough for you...besides me".
Even if it's in a joking manner their words and their actions (Grabbing onto each other, always looking at each other when speaking with someone else) shows they are.
Hell, they'd kill for each other if needed.

>>167190857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0NSeysrDYw

Considering that they're french maybe they will include this song.

>>167190857
I want some rock and maybe metal.
But it would depend when and where the game is set before I make any actual wishes for songs.

>>167298570
So cute. Looks like a picture Chloe took.

>Reminder that anyone who sacrificed the Bay is a horrible person who let thousands die

>>167300502
Weak bait but thanks for the bump.

>>167300502
Meh. Your very existence in this moment denies others life since you have organs multiple people could use.
You horrible person.

>People still insisting the tornado was some kind of mega-disaster that killed hundreds of people
At most a dozen or so died, which is still tragic, but it's not Max's fault.

I wrote a story for the general like a month or two ago and never finished it and I feel like trash about it desu but I'm going to finish it then have it reviewed for spelling and grammatical errors as well as to make sure the format is consistent. I'll also patch up areas I think are weak. Then I'll dump it. Long live /lisg/

>>167302335
Sounds good. As long as the story has lots of Pricefield and is in-character!

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This image reminds me of LiS.

>>167304206
Butterflies will always get people killed.
See: All Quiet on the Western Front

Also makes me think. An LiS type game set during wartime. That could be really cool and totally emotionally devastating.

>>167304503
>An LiS type game set during wartime

Valiant Hearts, it's as devastating as LiS

>>167304503
>An LiS type game set during wartime. That could be really cool and totally emotionally devastating

Have you played Valiant Hearts?

>>167304758
>>167304791
No. I haven't.
Might have to look into it.

>>167285837
How does Victoria feel about her odd long-eared companions?

>>167304206
>Life is Strange: Eastern Front Edition

Oh boy, that game had a lot more rape in it than vanilla LiS.

The bit where Chloe got shot and left to die by commissar Jefferson for reactionary ideology was surprisingly brutal.

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>>167304924
Valiant Hearts is a World War 1 game, but it doesn't glorify the battling or have you on the front lines taking out the enemy. Instead you are shown how truly terrible war is how much it ruins beyond those lost on the battlefield. It's fun, educational, and heartbreaking at times.
Give it a try you will not regret.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwN-HC4KKNo
This game has an amazing soundtrack too.

>>167305529
>commissar Jefferson
Joke's on him. General Secretary Prescott will have him purged for wasting valuable resources on a pointless bunker project.

>>167305529
Max is a lowly soldier in the Wehrmacht. She was conscripted and had to abandon her schooling. Her first few days are fairly quiet but then she ends up sent Stalingrad.
She usually panics when under fire but one day she tries to find a quiet spot and walks into a house... to encounter screaming. She walks into a room to sees a German and Soviet, wrestling on the ground with the Soviet about to deliver a finishing blow with a knife. Max raises her rifle and shoots, killing the Soviet. The fellow German thanks her, but they both instantly realize who the other is. Max saved Chloe, a long-time friend that she had to move away from years ago. Chloe is a veteran has been in combat since the invasion of Poland. Her best friend Rachel was caught in an earlier engagement and is almost certainly dead.

It's now up to Max- a novice who never wanted to fight, and Chloe- a veteran trying to deal with what she's done to survive one of the deadliest battles.
Their friendship reignites and a romance starts to form. Until an SS officer, Victoria, gets jealous and keeps trying to get Chloe killed so she can have Max for herself.
Throw in a unit medic (Kate) and a few other characters fighting for their lives in an ultimately unwinnable battle. Can they escape? Or will they fall victim to one of the many things that can kill them?

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>>167306617

>>167307002
Fanfic when

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>>167306617
A good story, but I think it could be better.

>Max is a conscript in the red army sent to the front at Stalingrad
>She becomes seperated from her unit when a soviet counter attack fails and she is forced to hide among the bodies of her fallen comrades
>A group of germans walk past dragging a girl in soviet uniform who is resisting
>The girl is put on her knees and about to be shot, but Max uses her time powers to make a number of difficult shots/timed to far off explosions to kill the germans before they can kill the girl
https://youtu.be/wMvTR012Dmg?t=56
>Finds out the girl is Chloe, an old friend from back home
>Max uses her new time powers to become a deadly sniper and keep her spotter, Chloe, alive
>Chloe insists they go find an old comrade called Rachel who was believed captured by the Germans
>So begins an epic journey through the ruins of Stalins fortress, culminating in a confrontation with Obersturmführer Jefferson in "the bunker"
I like the idea of Victoria being a jealous officer and Kate as a medic, if we're willing to go full magic realm here I think keeping Victoria as a German officer who wants to capture the famous Bolshevik sniper for "propaganda" and "morale" purposes.

>>167307705
That's interesting too. But I was thinking of something from the German side, watched the movie Stalingrad not too long ago as well as Downfall.
The futility of it all makes for one hell of a story and knowing you're going to lose and just trying to save what (and who) you can before it's all over. And even if you somehow survive, it's not going to be pretty.

Now I'm thinking of LiS set in different areas and time periods.
But since Max can travel though photos, maybe she can evolve her power. Being able to jump into ANY photo and explore the world, and she can bring Chloe along by holding her hand as she photo jumps.