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EVE Online general /eog/

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>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes, Eve is F2P with some restrictions and you can earn enough money ingame to get a subscription.

>I just started, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using any referral link(chaining them with friends works best).
If you have no friends create two accounts and refer yourself, you'll need an alt anyway.
Or use this link:
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=4eca5d19-7c52-44fd-9de6-ff7b1398159c&action=buddy
If you upgrade to Omega send me a mail with the date when you upgraded and I will give you the entire PLEX.

>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy

Future:
>Citadel Insurance! (Feb)

Present:
>Winter War

Past:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)

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/dog/ /eveg/

Permalink: http://orph.link/eog
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soon these threads will need to be sent off to the mmo general
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>>167139937

Waited hours for one too afraid to post it for the first time
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lol ded
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>too afraid to post it for the first time
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I don't play one of the most autistic games ever created because I enjoy being the center of attention
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first for amarr
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>guy has been belt ratting for 2 hours
>i just so happen to run into a faction spawn he's been grinding for
>kill, loot and salvage the wreck to hide evidence
>240m
am I going to heck if I dont apologize?
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>>167141419
no
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shield sin
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>this wrecks belongs to me because reasons
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>>167141419
How do you rat nowadays anyways? Just pick confessor and go null (or die at gate)?
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>random legion found our bling rattlesnake farming wormhole
>legion dropped on it but missed by a second
>fleet forming up for dank pvp actions
>send rattlesnake back to signal them "come here for a gud fite"
>nothing happening
>they send back a procurer inviting us to come
>FC says no
>fleet staying up for 2 hours later
>the rattlesnake cleared all combat sites while the procurer brought more friends and mined all ore and gas sites
>both side go home
>spot some E-UNI fags wandering into the hole
>blop them out of spite
>ragequit afterward
so this is the elite pvp experience
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oneiros
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>Get friend to play eve
>He joins us out in Null
>First fleet
>He is hyped
>"This is going to be an Entosis OP"
>ohno
>Faggots don't even try to fight us
>Two hours Entosising
>Literally zero content
>Fleet ends, dock up
>"I'm going to head off to bed now, how did you enjoy the fleet?"
>"Dude that was really fun! We should do more fleet stuff tomorrow"

Did I just bait my autistic friend into this shit game?
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>Come back to Moot's Last Jihad after my competition break
>Only CEO now
>???
>Turns out Stilte has welped so many ships now that he up and steals the corp wallet, and leaves after a month or so in CEO role

Fuck, I genuinely don't understand. The whole wallet worth was maybe 140mil, a couple hours explo and he could make it himself.

Anyways, corp is back to having a semi-functional CEO, join us for shenanigans if you feeling like it, open to alphabros and roaming loners.
Also, if you are a cuck who wants to steal, you are welcome too, we genuinely don't have enough in the bank to make it worth your while.


Also, the killboard is back to bloody red, please help us make it more so.
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Kevin, what the fuck man?
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>>167145021
a couple hours of life time saving for free sounds like a good deal
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>>167146381
>spend more than 20 hours helping corp
>steal 150 mil

I guess isk you steal is free, right?
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>35 new serpentis skins for gallente
How about something that isn't grey or black or plastic yellow for once huh ccp
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>>167144652
Typical good goy material.
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>>167147265
Relax, there's an even in two weeks that will probably drop Gallente hull skins.
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>>167139415

What race should I play?
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>been mwd drifting all my life
>discover ab drifting
Fuck yea. Now I just need Afterburner V
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>7o
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oneiros
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>>167139415
Been away for a couple months, what happened to Puppers and All-Out?
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How do i rat?
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>>167150656
They died, joined together, and died again.

>>167150823
>fly to belt
>lock reds

Ta da
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>>167151448
(in order)
Restart launcher.
Restart PC.
Contact support.
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>>167151338
Okay gonna level destroyers and try confessor my way into not getting loot for days and quitting.
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>those people in corp chat who would rather as stupid shit like "what's x" instead of looking it up in market
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>>167151448
Is it working now?
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>>167141419
Why would anyone go to hek these days?
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>>167153128
Seems fine now.
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Daily reminder that the moros is inferior to the nag in every single way
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>>167150823
>>167141983
if you're being unironic and you're from the days back when people had to belt rat
you get one of the designated ratting ships:
afk-ish ratting: vni, ishtar
active ratting: rattlesnake, a carrier, typically thanny or nid
go to your corp's ratting system with an upgraded military index, open up the probe scanner (no scanning necessary), and pick your poison. Most commonly people like to do these rock havens since all the rats spawn in one bunched up area which reduces drone travel time. Expect 45m/hr with a vni+the rare faction spawn+selling any 10/10 ded bookmarks or running them yourself.
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>>167141983
Get yourself 6 carriers and go run level 5 missions
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And today's shitfit prize goes to...
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59674834/
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>>167157128
Damn, i hate drones...and having to find a corp...
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>>167147825
Caldari
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>>167158771
yeah, i hate having to manage missiles and drones on the rattle. I'd prefer either full zzzzdrones or point&blap
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>>167150656
All out merged into Oruze for the most part and was then restarted as a newb corp.
Pupper then merged into All out, but the overall quality of the corp is suspect.
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How good are Mordus Angels?
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>page20
fuck you dog
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Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer
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initiated compact warp scrambler
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>tfw spamming level 3 missions becuse to scared too do level 4
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>>167166365
whats your name I'll send you a polarized machaiel
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What's a lowsec static? Does it mean there will always be a wormhole that connects to a lowsec system?
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>>167166774
Yes
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>>167168165
Thanks anon~
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how fly good fleet interceptor i wanna hold people 4 fleet sex
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>>167169669
>mwd on
>f1 f2
>orbit faster than transversal
>shoot drones
>pray to god there's no missiles
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>don't forget to tip your boosters on the way out
>we recommend 1m per site per booster
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>12am last night
>fuck it one more anom
>24 drone coronaries
>first anom of the morning
>31 coronaries
weeew time to buy something stupid, geckos and faction bcs
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>>167145021
>wonder about joining this
>no way to send application
>weeks later
>still nothing
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>go solo roam null around home
>don't meet shit, meh return home
>notice just now I was in my bear pod
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oneiros
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>Invulnerability Fields don't make you invulnerable
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>damage control
>doesn't deflect arguments
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>day trading
>can trade at night
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>>167174753
It's always day somewhere anon.
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>>167174791
>day/night cycles mean anything in space
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>>167174904
it means lots of things
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>>167139415
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>>167175136
But stations don't orbit in eve.
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>>167176136
prove it
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Hello I heard I can get free ISK here?
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>>167177259
You heard wrong.
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>>167177259
post name i'll send you free isk
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>>167176626
Tacs around stations don't change.
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>>167178882
prove it, don't say some random bullshit
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>>167179063
>gives evidence
>I don't believe your evidence

Sorry, didn't know you have brain problems.
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How do I convert my concord LP to SoE or some pirate faction etc? Does it convert both ways (concord>whatever>back) or do you have to go to a station of the specific faction of choice?
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>>167179228
>give evidence
that would be a good start, you should get to it
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>>167179354
>he doesn't know bookmarks are static
>he can't conclude that if stations weren't static, stations would move away from bookmarks
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>>167179484
that just proves that bookmarks are static according to any nearby station, not that they're absolutely static
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>>167179484
>it is impossible for bookmarks to be relative and not absolute
????
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>>167179659
>>167179641

Not him but you're literally saving the coordinate point in space. Its obviously static
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>>167179641
A station tac is the same as a safe. And if you assume all bookmarks use stations as a point of reference, explain why bookmarks work in systems with no stations.

After, of course, after you explain why the position of the sun never changes throughout the day when you're on a station grid. If stations were orbiting there would be multiple sunrises and sunsets every day.
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>>167179940
prove it

>>167180006
you're the one who said station m8
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>>167179940
Every coordinate point in a Cartesian space can be expressed as an absolute or as one of infinite number of relative values.
What evidence do you have that the coordinate is expressed as an absolute?
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>all this nerd shit

fuck outta here
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>>167180432
>he plays video games
lmao nerd
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>>167180165
>>167180312

That its a fairly simplistic non-Newtonian video game that does not have a system of orbiting celestials/stations, evidenced by the fact that they never move.
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>>167180775
prove it
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Why do EVE players love Discord so much? Why can't they just use IRC or Jabber? Some corps even use Discord for voice when mumble exists.
I just don't understand.
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>>167180775
How do you know that what you see is not just a pre-calculated representation of space, displayed on your screen, and the planets actually move but that movement is obscured from your vision for simplicity's sake?
Suppose the laws of EVE physics (which are different to that of real life, as you should know) make it so all inter-planetary distances are inter-orbital distances regardless of orbital position of either body. Then the above could be true without affecting any numerical metrics.
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>>167181025
>IRC and Jabber in 2017
???
Do you use Skype as well?
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There are no celestials. Eve is a game about submarines.
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So I joined a corp that my previous corp always shit talked. And they literally have all the shit I wanted to implement in previous corp (which they dismissed as a bad idea) and they run more fleets and I make a shitload more isk and the people are normal eve tier players...

fucking last time I ever take someone else's word about what a corp is like.
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>>167182000
Was it SC and Snuff?
Was it Karmafleet/Brave Newbies/PH?
What was it?
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>>167181773
Congratulations arguing a useless point about physics in a game that doesn't use them.
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>>167182108
I am not gonna say out of principle. Just wanna get it out there that you should actually join a corp/alliance and experience what it is like before you judge otherwise you will just cuck yourself like i did.
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>>167182210
prove that it doesn't
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This is the best shitposting I've seen here in a long time. Slow day at work?
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itt: what is burden of proof?
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>>167181824
>>IRC and Jabber in 2017
>free choice of client and having full control over your own server so you can make sure it's secure is a bad idea
>Do you use Skype as well?
Sadly people actually do use Skype for backchannel negotiations
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>>167182210
>>make a supposition based on the fact that EVE doesn't use real life physics
>"that's wrong because the game doesn't use real life physics"
Uhhh. What? No real physics is what makes it possible, it can't be the thing that makes it wrong.
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Is there a rason to join a corp if i have very low SP but dont need help? what can i do within a corp to make isk if i have shitty skills?
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>>167183019
Yeah, people open possibilities in all areas of the game.
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>>167183019
With a few mil SP you can run ratting sites and get 6 mil ticks (every 20 min bounty payout) + loot. And there is plenty of room to improve that as you go.
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>>167171454
>search corporation
>submit application

Wtf?
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>>167183341

Different noob here, what are ratting sites? That sounds good to me

Can I do it in a frig/destroyer or should I wait until cruiser?
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>>167184239
just join a fucking corp you clown and ask your dumb questions there, there are people literally getting off on helping idiots like you. literally any alpha friendly corp will give you free stuff and explain everything to you however many times you want
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>>167183019
Salvaging is decent Isk if you're new. SRP and free ships will help you pvp without straining your wallet too much

>>167184239
Pandemic horde has belt ratting destroyer guides on youtube
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>>167184461

lmao
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>>167184663
eks fucking dee kys :3 ahaha
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>>167184461
u mad?
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>>167184239
you can belt rat in a destroyer, yes. It's also kinda like playing the lottery since you have a small chance for a rare spawn. The payout is very minimal.
The moment you can fly a cap stable 100mn vexor navy issue with heavy drones you should go do ratting sites. Just open the probe scanner and they're all pre-scanned, as soon as you finish one another has already spawned. Don't join Pandemic Horde unless you want to see your cruiser here
https://zkillboard.com/system/30003698/
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>amarr has purity and cold iron
>caldari has vanilla and seabeast
>gallente has serpentis
>minmatar has ?????????????
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>>167186650
>mfw I joined PL yesterday
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>implying any of the skins are good
>implying the concept of skins isn't cancer
If we didn't let CCP monetize skins we'd be flying custom-painted ships with alliance/corp logos on them.
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>>167186926
how do you not let ccp do something?

and why do you want the game to be shitted up with custom-painted meme shit?
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>>167186926
>let
kek
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>>167139415
>16 days until T3 cruiser skills are V
>still too space poor to afford the basic subsystems let alone to properly fit it

is it even worth it to get a proteus? Im gonna be able to fly it well! I want to explore and rat with it.
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>>167187035
>>167187298
>how do you not let ccp do something?
You shoot the monument. Obviously.
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>>167187474
only faggots fly t3 cruisers m8
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>>167186650
>joined horde couple months ago
>VNI ratted until I graduated to a snake
>Haven't lost anything
Hah
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whats a good corp? how about mission ready mining or ascendance? or go with one of the big meme ones like horde?
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>had 1.5b in assets and wanted to buy plex for that
>real life made me unable to log in for long enough to get it to jita
>fast forward ~20 days
>sub running out
>assets worth under 1b now
Thanks Obama
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>>167187717
this cant be true. Whats the point in having a security tag along if you're exploring? i want to explore and also be able to deal with anyone that wants to wreck my shit.
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>people saying they are getting same ticks ratting in a vni as a rattlesnake

how, if this is true, why would I get a rattlesnake?
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Ended up watching Clear Skies so though why the fuck not I'll relog my EvE account now that its F2Pish.

Goddamn I am so lost. Can't remember shit. Not to mention I am rather baffled at the skills I have leveled, got every destroyer and battlecrusier maxed, but for the life of me I can not remember why the fuck I would do that.
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>>167190403
Destroyers and Battlecruisers used to be not racial - one skill for all races.
When CCP made the change they copied the skillpoints into new skills of all four races.
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>>167190763
Ahh that makes a lot more sense. Been like 4 years since I played and before that i was rather sporadic so so much has changed.

Kinda tempted to just go redo the tutorial and do everything as a new player would just to get a feel for the game again. If that's even possible with an old character.
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>>167191062
You can redo the career agents but not the actual tutorial. To do the tutorial itself, the new one, you'd have to make a new character.
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>>167191139
Fair enough, I'll get my bearings eventually. Hopefully I don't go back to being a Jita jew middle man and never leave the fucking station.
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My first time hauling soon after creating my first EVE spreadsheet on excel. Set to make just under 300m isk profit, immediate selling, from an initial 400m investment.

Am I playing this game right?
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>>167191405
You could always start a new alpha account to do the tutorial to get the feel for the game back. Not like you lose anything from it.
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>>167191874
I don't think you need to start a new character or account to do the tutorial
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>>167191959
Starting to think that as well. Since I had to reset my email I got every account associated with it on my new email.

Logged on my first trial from 2006 and since it was in the rookie ship I was at the start of the new tutorial. So might just be that you need to be in the rookie ship to get the option.
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tempest
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>~1B in ISK and easily liquidatable assets
>just renewed subscription
>skills aren't high enough to fly T2 ships
>really don't want to get a faction ship
What do I buy /dog/?
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>>167196076
if your skills arent high, train them. For now fly a vexor and make money doing level 2 missions. then by a BC and do level 3 missions. Meanwhile train all your skills til you can get a T2 ship. but i strongly suggest getting a faction ship.
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Should I join PH if I just want to try ratting in nul or do they get raided so much that it's not even possible to rat in peace?
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>>167196764
PH has good ratting pockets.

Your only problem is the competition from the dozens of other ratters and a guy who likes to farm PH ratters.
https://zkillboard.com/system/30003698/
You can probably guess from this link who he is.
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>Should I join PH
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>>167196764
yeah if you want to rat in peace in the north join horde or guardians of the galaxy. everyone else is getting stomped on right now.
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>undock from station
>warp somewhere
>fly into station for 30 seconds before shimmying enough to actually warp

nice game you have there CCP
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>>167193714
Tempest and compost are very similar words. Coincidence?
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>jumping into Jita with my 800m payload
>95% of my wealth
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>>167199459
>being poor
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>>167199620

Considering I can't even fly cruisers yet I think I'm doing alright. I'll be able to pvp in frigs for god knows how long now
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buy my shit
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>>167200359
Bought
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>>167200359
*0.01 isks you*
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>>167156892
looks better
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>>167199620
i would love to have 800 mil in my wallet right now. im legit space poor, and have a hard time getting income.
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>>167196764
lemme tell you what I saw in my crystal ball to save you the time
>you decide to have a relaxing afternoon doing some ratting
>cloaky neut in system
>5 hours later still there
>fuck it, you decide to undock because you want to make some damn isk
>orbit the anomaly
>orthrus decloaks on top of you, you're going 1000m/s so you cant steer it in time to warp off before being pointed
>no matter how many times the standing fleet takes out the orthrus, he's back within the hour, willing to spend over a billion isk a day just to stop you from ratting
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>>167188373
>mission ready mining or ascendance
They're both big meme corps. AscendanceDOT recruits from Jita local so they're probably quite bad even by Goonswarm standards.
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>>167191595
Watch out for margin trade scams

>>167196764
Don't discount the lesser known alliances and renters at the ass end of the universe. See who lives where on dotlan and check killboards for losses.
If they don't get farmed all day and kill lots of NPCs they're worth considering.
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>>167203036
hmm how did the orthrus get to my anom cloaked? slowboat?
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>hacking a relic site in wormhole
>dscan dscan dscan hack dscan dscan dscan hack hack
>forgot to dscan for 10 seconds
>dscan...
>see a white stroke line flashes in the background
>OH FUCK SOMEONE WARPED IN?!
>heart skipped a beat
>nothing on overview
>it was just a fucking shooting star
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infinite ammo
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>>167186664
It's hard to paint over rust.
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>>167201047
>a huge turd looks better than a wing
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>>167205343
>mining turrets
my dude wtf you doing
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>>167205149
how did you a relic site in a wormhole? isnt it full of sleepers? What do you fly?
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>>167205580
you don't do sleepers sites if you can't handle them, duh, plenty of pirate relics in c1-3 whs
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>>167205726
i have not once seen a pirate site in a WH. theres always sleepers every hole i go into
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Do you guys use attribute implants? I just finally lost my pod with my +4s (didn't think before I started the trip) and I'm wondering whether or not they're even worth it. The hassle of clone jumping alone is enough to put me off it and I think I'll be getting killed a lot now that I live in null
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>>167205891
I pvp so no
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>>167205149
>shooting star
>in space
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>>167205880
You were either in two holes total, went into c4-5 only or are trying to explore in busy or already cleaned up systems.
>>167205891
>press 2 buttons
>hassle
I have +4s and I switch clones to an empty one if I'm going to PvP. It's worth it to log off in a clone with implants, shaved days off my skill queue.
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>>167205891
Reminds me of when a class mate of mine was going to teach me PvP and forgot to switch clones and and we went out in frigates and he had a complete set of +5 implants.

Suspect his asshole clenched rather hard when we were almost podded by pirates.
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>>167206504

Logging on at odd times just to do so and missing fights waiting on a countdown is a hassle
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>>167207023
>cooldown
you don't get a cooldown if you install a clone in a citadel and switch from the same citadel. You can even do it if you already have a cooldown
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>>167204697
He warped there and cloaked ahead of time.
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>>167207218

I was not aware of that. Makes me even angrier at myself for having my 3rd ever loss be a pod with most of my worth
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>>167209056
Yeah Eve is really bad about all those mechanics that aren't mentioned anywhere and don't really make sense.
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>>167171276
I've made a billion so far today off these damn things, the sentient spawns can be quite common.
Good because the longer everyone falls for the rorqual meme the more these drone goos stay up in price
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>>167212708
>implying the rorqual is a meme

being the best mining ship in the game isn't a meme.

the idiots that go out and mine in packs of less than 4 rorquals at a time are the meme.
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>"Guys don't spike system"
>Everyone jumps
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What do you recommend after forsaken rally points ? Forsaken hubs I guess ?
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apocalypse
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>just made my first 1B ISK
>most of it was through corporate theft
Feels good man
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>Spend weeks training for a Rattlesnake, get it fitted out with the gear that will do exactly what I need it to do. Spend 1.4 billion on the hull and fittings.

>It's hotdropped in the first hour of use.


Fuck it back to a VNI I guess.
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>>167220505
>1.4b for rattingsnake
what modules did you bling
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>>167220505
>rattelsnake ratting

stop being a shitter and just get a carrier
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>>167220685
>>167220721
It's fucked up because i've gotten salty over loosing a 150 million VNI. But for some reason the snake does not bother me, it was literally two weeks of ratting in a VNI to save up the isk required and somehow it's just nothing.
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>>167220505
shit fucking sucks because there's nothing in-between, 3 months of jump drive skills, advanced spaceship command, and other things and that's just to sit it in.
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>>167221216
Yeah i've literally been stuck in a VNI for months on end because it's either upgrade to a Rattlesnake or upgrade to a Tengu for DED site loot or go to a Nidhog or a Hel, and all options are multi months trains for the basic entry skills.
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>>167221216
>>167221406

Just run an alpha alt that can salvage and pick up your loot. You can start approaching 30 million ticks if you include the value of the loot and salvage you pick up.
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>>167139937
>>167140512
An incestuous pile of dicks fuck up their own general, like everywhere on /vg/ it's the same vocal fucktards that need to be muzzled
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Can I fly a destroyer with only skill level 3? I don't want to wait till the weekend but I feel like its a bad idea
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>>167222659
Look at the bonuses and decide for yourself. Most of them are pretty insignificant like +5% damage and +10% falloff or something like that.
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le dank low sec gate camp meme
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>>167223457
>+25% damage is insignificant
it's pretty significant
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>>167223475
>40m
And nothing of value was lost.
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>>167223720
He clearly meant going from level 3 to level 4 before flying it, so it'd only be 5% damage which, yes, is insignificant.
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>>167186664
valklear glory
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>>167223985

In this case its 10% so I'm on the fence. Think I'll give it a go though against rats at least. I'll wait till 4 to take it into pvp
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>Asteros selling for 58m
>Someone puts up a BPC for one at 65m
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>>167223475
>dying to a gate camp
>in a cruiser

Wew

>>167224294
Market welping, I do it for fun sometimes too.
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>>167222325
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>>167187474
400M doesn't take too long blitzing L4's
this is what my friend uses
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Is there a way to disable the automatic index checking the launcher occasionally performs when launched?
It steals tens of megabytes of my bandwidth and a lot of cpu/hdd power effectively grinding my PC to a halt for the duration of ~10 minutes.

Yes it can be closed which stops the indexing, but it won't really close and release hardware resources until the client launches and verifies my account credentials, which, because of 100% cpu usage of the launcher takes ages.
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>>167214409
>be space middle class
>CCP buffs rorquals
>tfw my networth drops by 1b every few days because everything I own gets devalued
>can't make Isk fast enough to keep up with Rorqual caused mineral price crash
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>proteus for L4
>dat poverty fit
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>>167220505
>hotdropped
how the fuck did you let that happen
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>>167225254
>cap power relay
swap that out for a EANM II if you've got the skills to be stable without it
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>>167203036
>I was only 1 month old
>I loved Rock Muncher666 so much, I had seen all the kill mails
>I pray to Rock Muncher666 every night, thanking him for the life I have been given
>"Rock Muncher666 is love", I say, "Rock Muncher666 is life"
>The intel channel hears me and they call me a faggot
>They are obviously jealous of my devotion to Rock Muncher666
>I call them krabs
>They rage at me and send me to a shitty anom
>I am crying now, because my ticks are low
>I sit in the anom and it is very cold
>I feel a warmth moving towards me
>I feel something land on grid
>It's Rock Muncher666
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear, "This is my ratting pocket“
>He grabs me with his powerful warp scrambler module and puts me into armor
>I'm ready
>I turn off my hardeners for Rock Muncher666
>He penetrates my hull
>It hurts so much, but I do it for Rock Muncher666
>I can feel my VNI dying as my eyes start to water
>I push against his DPS
>I want to please Rock Muncher666
>He roars a mighty roar as my pod is ejected
>Standing fleet warps in
>Rock Muncher666 looks them straight in the eyes as he warps off
>Rock Muncher666 leaves through the stargate
>Rock Muncher666 is love, Rock Muncher666 is life.
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>>167225262
Donate to CODE.
They'll help keep mineral prices up by dealing with the pesky ventures and retrievers, they're the ones to blame.
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>le he thinks hisec is relevant
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>>167226920
>Mineral prices are being driven down by Ventures mining 20k m3 per hour and not the Rorqs obliterating every belt in null
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>>167226996
>in mostly indy corp
>nerds in rorqs have all the belts emptied within a few hours
sure would be nice to have a 10B ship that makes over 140m/hr
>>
>tfw char from 2008
>barelly any skills learned but enough to make me not want make new character
>Can't convince anyone that im a noob and know nothing.
>it doesn't really matter since i don't like pvp
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>using a worm for mission running
How retarded is this? I just don't want to shell out for a gila when I just do missions/ratting every now and again to unwind.
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>>167227539
worms are ridiculously fun, you eat through cruisers and frigates like butter
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>>167227539
Worms can do up to level 3 missions, you'll have harder time doing level 4's because of your DPS, it'll just take too long to do them. You can generally speed tank most stuff.

Also some missions have shitty triggers and retarded alpha and can blap you if you try to do level 4's with it, l3 and lower are cakewalk tho
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>>167229790
what the fuck
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>>167226920
>>167226996
>imblying CODE is not now focusing on the JF cancer
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>code
>focus
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>>167227539
>>167228231
>>167229529
what fit is good?
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>>167200359
no
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>>167229529
Rule #1 of mission running and ratting.
Just because you can complete a mission or site does not mean its good.

Clear times are very fucking important.
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>>167236280
Yea, just get a marauder.
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>>167236280
>I just don't want to shell out for a gila when I just do missions/ratting every now and again to unwind.

his words, igdaf desu senpai
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>>167236591
Marauders are not good for missions or k-space sites, only wormhole sites and some DEDs.
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>>167238252
What, why? I thought maras are top tiers in mission running.
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>look for 00 german corp
>see Endgegner
>15% tax
okay okay can live with that
>one PI is reserved for them aswell

Fuck you?
those greedy jews have probably taxes on their custom offices
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>>167227205
same
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>>167238508
But tax get the corp good shit, like SRP
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>Found a 2/10
>Can't run it in my cruiser
>Found a 6/10
>Can't run it in my cruiser

Is there a place to sell DED locations?
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Will you be on Duality today, anon?
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>>167238465
Slow.
Warp speed and ship speed is king for mission running.
When blitzing missions speed is the only bottlenecks.
All that marauder autism tank is severely overkill and wasted.
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>>167239126
What do people run l4 then (don't tell me it's tenga)? Assuming that t5 is not soloable (or too autistic to solo)
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can you use quafe zero and standard blue pill together?
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>>167240061
No your character overdoses and dies in horrible agony and all your clones lose 500.000 SP
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>>167239247
L5s is soloable in subcaps but its never worth it.
L4s best ships is the mach, nothing else comes close in terms of clearance.
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https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie/status/827165713077063680

>If we were to hypothetically add decay to anchored warp bubbles, what kind of lifetime would you prefer?
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>>167241403
3 days
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>>167241403
Decays faster depending on ratting index.
Less than a day if its maxed.
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>>167241403
You need an account to vote...
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>>167241403
2 hours.

They do not promote players interacting with one another and creating content, it's just a nuisance. Ignore WH space, ratting in Null has the highest amount of ISK payout with the least amount of risk involved.
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>>167242007
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=509841

There's also a thread about it on the forum.
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>>167242948
>Maybe start by gate rats shooting anchored bubbles.

Fucking best post in the thread.
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>>167177495
Grath Telkin
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>>167241008
Oh right, i forgot mach exists...maybe i should buy one (and get rekd on undock from 4-4)
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>>167241008
>L5s is soloable in subcaps but its never worth it.
LOL no its fucking not. Which mission is doable solo and I'll gladly go buy one to supplement my L5 carriwrs
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>>167245114
Some russian was doing them on duo barghests. Idk if soloable but in subcaps doable.
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/mass-test-on-february-2/

>All participants will receive a reward of two million skillpoints (available only on the test server Singularity).

I don't understand, the incentive is for joining is 2M SP on a test server that no one uses?
>>
How Red Alliance is still alive
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>>167139415

Is solo manufacturing a viable profession? I would like to open a new account that will be for an industrialist alt.
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>>167245684
No it is not.
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fucking helios won't come to my relic site, he even did the fucking data site and won't come to this fucking relic what the fuck are you doing you bitch just warp here already piece of shit
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>>167139415

What's the purpose of the Porpoise?
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>>167245684
Requires years / billions of startup cost, but can be done solo.
Because t1 manufacturing isn't profitable it's not a viable profession without that huge investment cost mentioned before.
You need to jump into t2/t3 right away if you want profits.
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>>167245862

Well of course, I already expect to do t3/t2, with all the invention bullshit, ...

But is -that- viable for a solo player? I could initially invest about 3bill in the alt
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>>167245951
If you have to ask, it's not viable. It's also not solo.
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>>167245862
>>167245951
>>167245684

it is worth adding that I could have it in a corp, and my mates probably won't mind it if I anchor another POS/engineering complex in our J-Space system, but I still will have to pay all the costs by myself
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>>167245951
Yes.
It's viable in the sense that it will generate profits while also providing some (autistic / excel-sheet type) form of entertainment.
If you're into that then by all means.
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>>167245805
less pricey and faster on grid mining links.
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>>167225350
post it. then post the killmail
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>>167225254
>vespas
>>
>unironically not using caldari drones
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>>167245195
Which mission specifically? If it's a bhargest I can probably get a Mach to do it or something else fast and long range
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>>167247382
the only caldari drone i use is a gecko, otherwise its gallente. Thermal damage is better suited for all around shield/armor/hull damage.
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>>167247627
worse tracking, worse range, worse hp, worse regenerating hp and worse speed

>m-muh dps!
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>polarized machariel
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>>167247706
The gecko is superior to heavy drones

It's why ever drone ship worth spending a load of money on uses geckos 2 hammerhead s and a hobgoblins
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>>167247854
the gecko isn't superior in price, pvefag
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>>167247943
Who fucking cares about price. On high end ships like blops you spend the extra to get every dps out of it
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>blops
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>>167248261
I'd blow 50m on a gecko for a Rattlesnake too

No poor faggot
>>
Because retards leave them behind or forget to drop them.
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>>167247383
He said on the stream that he had the missions on youtube and the one certain was some pos bash and to kill a bunch of fighters it launches.
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>No poor
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>>167248459
>one certain was some pos bash and to kill a bunch of fighters it launches.
Thats the stray amarr carrier or something a lot of those missions are effective pos bashe
The neuts in some of them are so bad you can do any of them without like 6 Guardian cap chains
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>>167247854
2 geckos, 1 garde. all i need.
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>>167248576
https://www.youtube.com/user/MrSantapinki
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>>167238508
>>one PI is reserved for them aswell
What? They want you to run a PI alt just to hand over everything to the corp?
>>167238612
They live in Omist, they're renters.
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>burning back to pick up your drones in blops
>leaving drones behind in blops
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>>167248787
Thats a neat set up, how effective is the garde
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>>167249214
not as effective as the geckos, and you have to stick with the garde if you're in a battleship. which isnt a problem if you're sniping with railguns. using a target painter at 70km is pretty good.
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>>167245684

You can make a good profit and much better isk/lp with industry 1 if you make your own stuff from your spent loyalty points.
>>
oneiros
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>Arguing about drones.

The stats are already there m8s.
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>finally get an actual combat 1v1 solo kill
>feel nothing
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>muh arranged honour duel
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How does this work? I sub for three months and I can train my two alts or?
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>too bad at EVE to solo PVP
>every fleet I join is a structure bash
>our enemies never fight us in my TZ
>didn't make mandatory 50 kill quota last month
>director convos me and tells me I'll get kicked if I don't meet the kill quota this month
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>>167252278

I want to know this too. It REALLY should explicitly say whether or not its account wide or a single extra training slot.

>>167252460
>spending your time with pure autism
>not joining a group that prioritize fun/irl and hopping in standing/roaming fleets
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come on goy, do it
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>>167252460
I have a similar problem but no kill quota. I'll log in between fleets and see 300+ people on but no one can't point me to any gate camps/roaming fleets to join.

Applied to join the stealth bombing fleet so I can make some friends.
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>>167252892
is the winter war over and did testco finally settle or are they still trying to find fights?
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>>167252278
>>167252813
>just subbed for a year last week
>this comes out
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>>167253195
Co2 took all of Impass. TEST is grinding Esoteria sov but hasn't even taken a single station yet.
Stainwagon has started to slope but they still hold all of Esoteria, Feyth, Omist and Paragon soul.
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>>167253195
They moved from catch to esoteria and are pushing them out from there now.
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>>167252460
litteraly join spectre fleets and get 50 kills in 2 days
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>>167252278
>>167252668

One MCT slot
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>>167253691

Thanks m80
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>>167253554
this map isn't accurate

Omist is held by KWG which are just renters and pay their dues to CO2 and TEST now.

Feythaboli is the same but is majority held by WSHOT who will now be paying their rent to TEST and CO2 as well

the stain wagon green should essentially be 1/3 the size of what is shown on the map.
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>>167253897
Isn't Project Mayhem coming south to farm TEST though?
>>
just bought an exequoror to take part in an incursion, hoping to get that ISK.

whats a good fit for doing logi in an incursion?
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>>167255412
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>>167255412
>armor fit incursions
you fucked up
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>shield tanking
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>>167255412
sorry, even warp to me has standards now
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>>167256607
what the fuck? i just spent 20mil trying to fit the perfect noob logi, and its not even "viable"? Im gonna go get laughed at.
>>
Rather tempted not to finish the tutorial now after seeing this. Just doesn't seem right.
>>
>20 mil
>perfect noob logi
>exequoror
>doing something before doing research
I'd say you are baiting but there are some even more moronic people in this general.
There are some autists running armor incursions, dunno about their fits tho
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>>167257275
Why did you fit a ship for an event you don't know anything about?
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>>167257494
Adding the screen shot would help..
>>
Why doesn't /eog/ have its own Incursion group?
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>>167257670
Caldari FC is my waifu hands off!!!!!!!
>>
>>167257539
DTM does armor incursions
>>
I've noticed some of the most retarded people I've met in Eve are using Gallente characters.
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>>167257567
because im not an autist. I learn from experience, not tediously reading about it thinking im capable without having learned any lessons.
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>>167257802
Hey, my pilot has been doing flight training for over 10 years. She is clearly mine.
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>>167258018
>you're autistic for googling incursions before fitting up the completely wrong ship

Do you walk into a home Depot and go buy a tool for a problem you don't even know will work on your problem?
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>nobody in alliance bought my 10/10 bookmark
>dont want to sink 1bil on a tengu to run them myself
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>>167258018
>all education is autism, i work as a garbage man :^)
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>>167258810
Give it to me!
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fucking lol if ur not ingame in eve-online talking mad shit in /v/bros
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>>167258810
maybe just give it away and someone might give you some money after
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>>167258810
>tfw 10/10 bookmarks are sold in less than 5 minutes in my alliance
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>CODE.
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>>167257997
What do the least retarded use?
>>
apocalypse
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>>167261323
There is no least retarded. Maybe Minmatar, although saying kinda irks me.
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so i'm looking for a ship to catch this faggot in his orthrus ganking VNI's in our pocket.
would this work?
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>>167265564
perfectly
>>
>forgetting to post your image
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>>167265564
forgot pic
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>272 dps
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How to fix rapid lights: kill their range by 50%
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>>167265713
no, he just plain wont show up.

xD lol dum ratters le htfu and fight back it's a PVP GAME, wait your opponent runs off the moment he isnt guaranteed to dunk your ass and goes off and cloaks because he isnt interested in honorable duels
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>>167265713
>trying to kill RockMuncher without stabs

Ok.
I lool forward to seeing you on the killboard.

If PH was not so full of retards and able to put together a decent system defense fleet it would be a non-issue.
We have no one stationed on gates with tackle, no designated first responder squad in fleet, hardly any decent FCs online when we need them, and fucking hostile blops well in range.

Unfortunately ratting in PH is a meme. Just join in with the content and leave rockmuncher to kill noobs.
>>
Can somebody tell me if pupper is dead

t. /ss13g/ looking to play eve
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>>167267908
Yes. Play Eve anyway, you'll fit right in if you are not a waifu fag
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>>167238690
normally to your alliance. there used to be some mailing lists in game not sure if anyone does that anymore.
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>>167268401
Sorry I'll find a new game then

t. Top waifu
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>>167268401
>waifu fag
what did he mean by this
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>>167268661
lurk in /ss13g/ and you'll find out
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>>167257275
>20m
>incursions
One of those highsec "newbie invasion corps" will probably take you, but then you'll make less isk/hour than mining
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>>167268871
i mean in eve, not there
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Is industry worth it on 1 account? I'm not elite, don't multi box or have multiple accounts, but the prospect of creating a manufacturing job for 1 week, collecting the goods, and selling them for 10%-15% profit does sound appealing.
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>>167269027
if you want to do it- do it
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>>167268661
People who erp on eve like most pupper players do.
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>>167269186
what's the isk/h for erp
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If I make a new characer on my account about how much SP will it start with?
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>>167269252
depends on how good and how willing and depraved you are
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>>167269327
numbers anon
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>>167269134
I will!
Already training industry and mass production, while I try to find a decent place to set up shop and of course what BPC to make, thinking frigs or destroyers. Or maybe Missiles
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>>167269320
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Starting_Skills
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>>167269320
Wow it's almost like you could test this by just doing it
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>>167269441
Thanks
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>>167269252
My top erpers run it at 250k per hour
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>>167269441
400k guess my 55k alt is getting turned to goo.

>>167269496
At work and interested in the MCT sub bonus as my sub is going to expire in a few days.
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>>167269539
>not even a 2m whore
>>
oneiros
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I think energy weapons are in dire need of a new model and audio update, sound like one of those loud beams in from Freespace.
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>>167271529
no
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Which dst best dst?
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>>167271558
yea
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>can't change orbit inclination
>it fucking changes over time so you eventually bump into shit
>anytime anyone brings it up anywhere they get told to manually pilot
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>>167271848
stop being shit and manually pilot and you won't bump into things faggot
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>manual piloting
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>FC doesn't show up to Strat op he scheduled
>CEO raises taxes to 100% during ops, forgets to turn it back after fleet.
what other bad habits can a Ceo have?
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>>167265713
>>167265564
>he wants to kill RockMuncher

Good luck, the guy won't take any fight he isn't guaranteed to win.
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>>167269413
>making T1 ships/ammo

Don't. Too many retards think mining their own minerals make them free so those things don't have a profit margin.
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>>167272346
Don't tell Brave that, they will snatch up that genius as their next CEO.
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>>167265564
Hunting Blops Tengu
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>TEST forms 150 man fleet to bash some offline towers a carebear corp left behind
>when we bring a small frig gang to farm their retards they reship to Jackdaws
>they're down to 50 guys in fleet
>tfw cracks are already forming
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>toon
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>>167245862
Excuse the noob question. But if t1 isn't profitable, where do all the t1 ships come from?
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>>167274229
See >>167273105
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>>167271848
can't fucking wait to switch to a rattler from vni, sometimes I find a barely workable orbit and then I see it start moving around.
got the drones covered, only 52 days to go for missiles and shields!
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>>167274229
>newbies mine minerals
>after a while they decide they are going to build shit and not sell those minerals to other people
>feel smart because selling product is better than selling raw materials
>they mine and build and sell but don't notice that selling minerals is actually more profitable because they are dumb
>minerals you mine are free
>t1 market is fucked
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>>167274850
maybe it's easier to sell minerals + a bunch of t1 things than just minerals
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>>167273316

>120 pilots and 30 caps to kill two offline towers, followed by 30 to take sov is unacceptable. Get back in fleet.

>#### SENT BY Rat Salat to All online test/allies @ 2017-02-02 22:35:44 EVE Time ####
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>>167275917
really? because 30 caps would kill it in less than a siege cycle
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How ridiculous is the current rorqual mining yield that people are willing to plant those multibillion isk whales out in belts ?
To put into perspective an unboosted Hulk with strip miners and 3 t2 mining laser upgrades mines ~95k m3/hour
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>>167276819
>How ridiculous is the current rorqual mining yield that people are willing to plant those multibillion isk whales out in belts ?
it makes like 300m an hour pretty good but they're like 9b for the fit
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>>167276819
if your hulk gets tackled you die 10 seconds later

if your rorqual gets tackled you press your cyno and jump a gorillion caps in and press your literal invulnerability button if you have to
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>>167276819
>>167276897
Rorqs can also form Rorq fleets, and clear anoms quick as fuck.
Unlike the hulk that has to move onto less profitable minerals after a while, these cunts just clear the whole belt so it respawns.

Also, afaik they can drop a cyno, so they are pretty safe if there is a defense fleet up.
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>>167277056
This

Also when you get more than 1 in a fleet, you can spider tank them, use their great drones, and light a cyno with their PANIC button

Literally slowcats
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>>167276908
>tfw I am sitting in station "afk" instead of getting in my cap to help some poor faggot busy losing his Rorq to a blop fleet
>20 minutes of agony and x in fleet
>can't tame my raging errection as I hear his tears over comms

Take that faggot, don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
>>
Just ordered 2 curries for myself to keep me going today. Being NEET is pretty great atm
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>>167276908
I hear 300m/h is pretty much the highest it can go. That's over 1.2million m3/hour, that's about a dozen unboosted hulks.

What the fuck why isn't CODE. going after these things?
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>>167265564
>Horde
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>>167276458
This was the ping, I wasn't on it so I don't know
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>>167277771
Because they're not in highsec.
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>>167277290
god's work
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>>167276458
TEST doesn't dare to siege dreads when daddy Co2 isn't babysitting them. They were using ratting carriers.
>>
I love Barghest-chan!
>>
barghest is a man
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>>167276908
they also have sick tank even solo. battlecruiser fleets cant pop them.
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Barghest-chan doesn't love me :(
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>>167278207
>ratting carriers
>taking down towers
sure am glad I never joined those idiots
>>
I'm interested in picking this game up after a long absence. What's the best ship for mission running for someone with 9 million points in drones and fuck all in guns? I currently have a Dominix with tier 2 modules from way back when.
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>>167277771
>What the fuck why isn't CODE. going after these things?>>
you can't gank a rorqual quickly with cheap ships
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>>167282635
domi is still pretty good
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>>167282635
Dominix or Rattlesnake works, you really should be ratting in nullsec instead though if you want to use drones.

For missions you should crosstrain into a Machariel. You'll make more Isk even with T1 guns.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1knVqZEH8qFY0eT44nMEFwcKd3t4PbgcZeuv58SVUxsI/pub#h.44sinio
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>tfw my fun little boats have become sexy as fuck
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>>167283469
>90% grey

yep that's gallente
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>>167282982
Thanks.

>you really should be ratting in nullsec
I'll work up to that but don't want to lose like 300 million because I don't remember how to play and do something retarded.

I'm curious, why Machariel? It doesn't seem to have any benefits for drones at all. My Gallente Battleship skill is at 5 but most of my gunnery skills are low. Is it just really easy to tank?
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>>167283469
what is that
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>>167283668
it's a maulus (t1 ewar frig) with like a serpentis skin on it.
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>>167283759
I forgot how nice some frigates look
I run on low settings because my gpu somehow can't handle 2 accounts at high at 60fps
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>>167283595
Machariel if you want to make Isk with missions. Level 3-4 gunnery skills and lvl 4 Minmatar BS doesn't take that long to train. A Domi works fine but you can't blitz missions with it.
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>https://zkillboard.com/kill/59683123/
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>>167284337
Does that mean I shouldn't salvage, then? I used to drop one of those mobile tractor beams and use a Noctis to quickly salvage all the wrecks at the end.

Guess I'll try to follow that guide for training priorities and use the Dominix in the meantime.
>>
this might sound like a dumb question but ill go for it anyways.


do i have to do pvp? i am kinda autistic and want to play some sort of space mining/trading simulator. could i do that?
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>>167285284
yes, but most people stick around for shooting people
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>>167285332
yeah, well maybe ill move onto that once i make some money mining/trading, i can do that right? is it viable?

thanks btw
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>see an anom in PH space
>some fag in a Cheetah already there
>proceed to finish site in my t1 before he can finish one can
>he cries in intel about this

Feels fucking good man. Get fucked if you don't know how to play.
Fucking 40mil+ ship and can't hack yellow cans.

Who else here devilish?

Also, I'm >>167277290
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>run into gate camp
>there's a falcon
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>>167285284
There are a LOT of people who don't even PvP in Eve and they are having fun. You can do it too.
Still should join a corp, I think. Or just play X3 or X2.
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>>167285456
Yes you can do mining and trading. Look into the different kinda of trading and how to do them. You need a lot of capital do make good money station trading though.
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>another person got buttmad by the power of superior Caldari engineering
get rekt fag
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>>167285497
>Does sites friends are already doing

That shit will get you kicked niqqa
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>fly griffin
>shut down 300M ship with 3M ship
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>>167285662
>>167285686
aight thanks for the answer friends. one last question - if i were to start playing eve ftp today how difficult would it be for me to get omega upgrade thing with doing only mining/trading
>>
which low sec constellation is the best to learn honorable solo pvp?
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>>167285986
There is literally no chance that will happen. You can start paid and make enough money to stay paid, but I'm pretty sure ftp can't even use a mining barge let alone an exhumer.
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>>167285986
Depends on how good you are at trading, because you aren't getting omega by mining in a shitty Venture. So if you are a stock market god you'll make it in a week or two.
Mining honestly won't bring a lot. (read: shitall)
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>>167285986
Mining is shit unless you're in a boosted mining fleet with an omega-only miner.
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>>167286096
I heard Amamake is good on honorable 1v1s? You can find people who do 1v1 anywhere desu. But desu you just have to roam and see what groups/people do what, and most of people in low sec are stabbed farmers and gangbangers.
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>>167285802
They're not my friends.
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>>167286172
>>167286179
>>167286280
fuck. is it even possible to get omega as a newbie without paying?
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>>167285986
Mining as an Alpha will restrict you to only using the Venture mining frigate which maxes out at around 4 or 5 million isk per hour mining high sec ore. PLEXes cost around 1.05 billion isk at the moment. Gas harvesting, which can also be done in a Venture, will make a lot more but the best gas is only in wormhole space where you will have to constantly be on the lookout for aggressors. Trading, on the other hand, can easily make enough to PLEX every month and more but, as >>167285686 said, getting into trading does require quite a bit of startup capital. I started doing it with 100 million isk and made enough to PLEX that month but I think alphas have to pay higher taxes on trades, so it might be harder for you.
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>>167286398
Yes, and it's not even that hard to do, just not mining. Mining as an alpha is literally the lowest money you can get.
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>>167286398
Yes, just not through mining. There are lots of better isk-making activities available to alphas such as exploration.
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>>167286390
And why would I want them?
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>>167286421
>>167286481
>>167286557
alright, thanks for all the answers. ill give eve a go tomorrow and see how it goes.
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>>167286708
Good luck friend, don't forget to read the OP over once again.
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>bubble nerf
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>>167287070
never, considering there isnt much they can do to debuff them. They do the same thing. The only thing they could do is to make it so that you can use a MWD inside them.
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>>167285802
I just say we landed at the same time, his word against mine.

No one gives a shit bud. Leadership is busy enough with all the problems.

We now have a fullblown RockMuncher intel channel.
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>>167287070
REEEEE my safe carrier ratting systems
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>>167287517
the big thing the csm is currently pushing is changing nullification. so something will probably change.
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>>167287517
https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie

mfw ccp would rather use reddit or twitter than their own official forum
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>>167287517
>The only thing they could do is to make it so that you can use a MWD inside them.

You can already MWD inside of bubbles. CCP is currently drafting up some anchorable bubble nerf with the CSM to get rid of cancer like picrelated.
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>>167288074
I don't see anything wrong with that. Did you forget what kind of game this is?
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>>167259274
>Amarr
So is Killah Bee the dog poster?
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>>167288935
The kind of game where you go into the "dangerous" parts of space, abuse the shit out of a couple of retarded 2003 mechanics like rapecaged gates and local while grinding endless 2003 PvE content to level up your ratting carrier, and then whine like the bitch you are when the devs want to make dangerous space dangerous again?
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>>167289190
im sorry, would you like to withdraw, edit, and resubmit your statement so the rest of us could read it?
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>>167289416
>retarded nullbear incapable of basic reading comprehension
And no one is surprised
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>>167287815
welp time to cancel my carrier skill queue, dont wanna be doing that unless I've got guaranteed safety
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>337m from 30min of exploration in Sansha place

How didn't I fall for this meme sooner
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>>167289190
>not joining big nullsec corps just to subtly troll them
>not dropping bubbles between gates
>not dropping bubbles on the sun
>not dropping tac bubbles
>not dropping bubbles on Customs Offices

>not lighting random cynos in dead end systems
>not "mining" when actually bumping Orcas etc ofg grid
>not running taken anoms and later saying "woops, wrong overview tab, didn't see you"
>not buying up new player items from the market in bulk
>not making alts just to welp new player bundles as fast as possible
>not flying logi every fleet and "lagging" so people lose their blinged shit
>not pretending to go afk everytime you are required to defend something in your cap
>not going into nearby whs and telling the residents that your system has a mining op up.
>not bumping afk ships out of station tether range
>not destroying the wreck afk ratters are orbiting

Only you can cure the cancer that is nullsec anon, god knows I am trying.
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>>167288935
>>167290309
>waah wahh my idiot proof nullsec safety
Fuck off back to highsec. Can't wait until they finally remove local from null too and you faggots are forced to HTFU and git gud.
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>>167291017
>Can't wait until they finally remove local from null
This cant happen soon enough.
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>>167291017
bubbles are easily defeated by covops cloak
git gud
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>>167291171
>warp to bubbles gate in covops
>get decloaked by cloud of drones
>lose 50m ship and 100m pod
Nah
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>>167291171
>jump into system
>200km of bubbles in every direction
>cloak up and burn out of bubbles
>meanwhile, the bots and bot-aspirants inhabiting the system saw you in local before you even loaded grid and are already docked or in a POS

Good thing you brought that cloak, buddy
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>warping directly to a gate
>not being interdiction nullified
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>>167291402
>>167291410
RockMuncher must be some kind of god to overcome all this shit right?
He doesn't just sit cloaked in system and wait for easy fights, he navigates through 100s of kms of bubbles, and then flies all the way into the station to gank ratters, right?

Literally just gitgud
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>>167291513
>interdiction nullified

>jump into system
>200km of bubbles in every direction
>you're nullified so it's k
>warp to a Sanctum
>tackle a Russian RMT ratting Nyx
>two Russian RMT ratting carriers land on grid to defend their friend
>your buddies jump through the gate and start burning out of the 200km bubble cloud
>you die to fighters
>Nyx already warped off because of the extra warp core strength since you couldn't bring in a hictor

gf)))
>>
>200km of bubbles
>implying your game wouldn't crash
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>>167291605
Last time rock encountered a drone cloud he got destroyed before he could come into pocket. He then proceeded to contact a gm who came in and removed the drones for "lag" then came back in a nullified cloaky tengu.
>>
where would I find someone to help run a 5/10 in low sec?
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>tfw finally left brave and joined a good corp with actual decent space that isn't camped 24/7

why the fuck didn't i do this sooner
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>>167291890
Just solo it, you can do 5/10s in a cruiser. Google the site name and you'll find plenty of guides.
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>>167291926
In brave, what corp
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>>167291926
>space that isn't camped 24/7

Yeh, right.
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>>167291605
>Rock Muncher666 > If your not willing to pass the message on or not willing to take them off Ill just report a ticket now. Makes no difference to me I was trying to be nice thinking maybe soomeone didnt know about it
Last time he encountered cloud of drones he couldn't get through them and was salty AF. So yeah, nice meme, I like it.
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>>167291926
welcome to the club buddy. Just made more in a day than i used to in a week.

GET FUCKED CAGALI. NORMAN. GOLDLEADER. KINERA. RALEND. DUNK. You are bad at alliance management and should feel bad.
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>>167292237
Reminder this is the guy who values "honorable combat" but still brings cloaked tengus into a newbie corp's ratting pocket farming afk VNIs.
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>>167291605
But he doesn't
Know your shit before you spout shit
>>
what are federation navy comets good for ?
>>
>>167293284
Putting on the police skin and jumping through systems spamming siren noises in local.
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>>167293447
top kek.

but really i am thinking maybe just fw or wh where you are restricted by hull ?
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>>167291017
>gate bubbled to fuck, just a white screen
>carrier rat while aligned to citadel and up to speed
>anomalies spawn 70au away from gate, outside of dscan range
>seen two roams on livestream come to our pocket and moan about how long each jump takes because they have to slowboat through the bubbles and everyone is docked before they even get into the system
you can take away our bubbles but not our intel bots on alpha accounts
>>
>10
>>
>9
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>>167293685
>local is removed
>getting intel requires actually watching gates now
>nullbears crumble

ONE DAY Fozzie will grow a pair and do it
>>
>really want to join up in corp with my main and get into PVP with it
>can't afford to lose that incursion income
>hate incursions with all my heart

There's just nothing else that compares to it with my SP
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>>167297325
So do something that doesn't compare, you fucking shitler
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>>167297750

Atm a few hours of incursions with WTM autism seems like a much better alternative to days of belt ratting in a destroyer
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>>167297861
Do level 5 incursions
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>>167297101
tell me when they remove all NPC stations and those retarded vulnerable time frames so people are forced to fight unless they want to throwaway their properties
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>>167298287

Did you mean level 5 missions in null?
>>
Can anybody with recent Warp To Me experience give me a ballpark figure on income?
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>>167299692

31.5m every 20mins or so
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I could wait 2.5 months to fly what I want or I could spend $100 now...
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>>167302484
or you could not be poor ingame and fly what you want right now
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>>167303075

Even at 100m/hour consistently that's 70 hours of boring shit in-game over weeks rather than a day at work
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>>167302484
fly something else
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>>167293447
WHOOP WHOOP
CODE LOOK OUT
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>>167297861
belt ratting in a destroyer is just a stop gap measure so you have something to do in null if you dont have the cruiser skills trained up...
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>>167304940

And what can I do with minmatar cruiser skills?
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>>167305016
i dont know...shoot at rats and collect bounties.
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>>167305280

So belt ratting in a destroyer is a stop gap measure to belt ratting in a cruiser. Simply amazing
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>>167305381
i never played a we wuz kangs character so i wouldn't know. but considering gallente are good vs serpentis and caldari are good vs guristas. i can't see why min would be bad against their own rats.
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>>167305381
what's wrong with skilling for a VNI?
You're gonna be using those drone skills throughout your eve career
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>>167305586

I am on my gallente character but that's still a good couple months away as well
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>>167221641
how do you run both at once
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>>167291686
>shit tier scrubs that can't drop a rorqual tackle to catch a super

lmao@urlife
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>>167306661
>rorq tackle
I want to see this now
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>>167306378
with zero implants, and assuming you havent trained up a single afterburner,drone,cap,or shield skill, this should take you less than 40 days to get cap stable. You can remove the flux coil once you get afterburner and fuel conservation III. You'll hit 12-15m/ticks +whatever it is that drops
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>>167308726

Is it really worth the cost/risk to use with such poor piloting?
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>>167307142
2 rorqs
one fit with mids full of heavy scrams
the second fit with heavy nuets

hunter drops them on the super

tackle them and nuet it out
if the super tries to shoot them they use PANIC

the rest of the fleet jumps in to finish it off.
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>>167308815
you're already orbiting at full speed by the time the rock haven rats spawn (30 seconds after dropping out of warp).
warp in at 30, orbit gate at 30, kill the frigs then your drones will auto-target the rest.
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>>167308726
>not even one resist mod/rig
that seems terrible
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>>167309934
you dont need resists, your tank is speed
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>>167309934
your resist is the oversized afterburner. Ignore the webbing frigs for long enough and a damage control II wont be enough to save you.
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>waah ccp pls remov local so i can effortlessly camp systems in my bullshit covert gang
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I wish the pirate ships had their own flair, like t2 hulls of ships.
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>>167157206

Is it efficient to have 6 carriers all in the same mission, slam dunk the rats and get to the next one, or spread them around?
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>>167310982
This. CCP needs to balance between tackle and intel. I'd be happy with 0 local if tackling wasn't super fucking easy and effortless.
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>>167311643
What, are you saying you DON'T like 90% of pirate ships being cheap reskins?
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Does anyone keep data for where they find their Relic Sites? I am thinking about keeping a spreadsheet of them to see isk/site and maybe make a heatmap for where I find them so I can be more efficient?
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>>167290987
>not lighting random cynos in dead end systems
Wouldn't this end in you getting pwned?
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>>167267908
pupper still alive

find mustard

or die
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>have to press F to tell my sentries to kill a rat
Fuck you CCP I should be able to go take a shit and come back 20mil richer
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>reprocessing
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>>167315246
what IS pupper anyways
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>>167315939
It's an EVE guild.
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>>167315939
>>167317457

It is the strongest
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>>167314906
They can only jump to it if they are in fleet with you.

It's just funny as fuck when someone wanders across your cyno and freaks.
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Is this sufficiently tanky for a sleeper site/explo ganking vessel?
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>Dual 150mm Railgun II
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>>167318895
this
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>>167319062
>>167318895
Whoops, mb
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>>167318689

For ganking people, I guess. Is that what you mean?
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>>167319097
For sleeper Data/Relics, and ganking folks who are on sites.
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>>167318689
You should definitely run superior caches in that. Don't worry about the shockwaves, you have plenty of buffer.
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>>167319093
>dual 150s
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>>167319154

I doubt a buffer tank is good for sleeper sites. You need a sustained one. You could last less than 10 minutes with that.

It depends on which sites, of course. If you are running C1, you can try.
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>faction guns
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>>167319093
>183DPS
>faction guns
>faction dual 150mm railguns
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>>167319230
>>167319443
Dropping one of the plates for bigger guns doesn't really help my dps much at all.
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>>167319093
>explo
>no t2 analysers

Just no.
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>>167319778
Zeugma is a double analyzer with 30 strength on both, same as T2. I'll be 80/40, which is more than enough to open anything.
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>Federation Navy 250mm Railgun
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>>167320051
......No 80/40 is not enough to open everything, trust me.
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Will my drones die if I forget to feed them?
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>>167308726
>MSEs on a cruiser
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>50MN Microwarpdrive II
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>>167322462
Such a useless t2 module, they really should buff it again to make it fucking worthwhile. It's not worth paying more cap and just as bad of a cap penalty to get a dinky little extra 5% to mwd speed bonus. It translates to like 10m/s extra which is barely noticeable
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>>167322819
it works out as about 0.9% extra real speed. it's fucking nothing, hardly ever worth the extra fitting cost and silly repair paste consumption
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cute
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>have to grind sec status up again
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>>167324174
tags nigga
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>>167324174
>not having a hi sec alt
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if i go from omega to alpha, do i keep my skills or do they revert to alpha shit? does my skill queue on omega keep going for a few days after it expires or does it stop as soon as the sub runs out?
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>>167324480
If you don't login it keeps going afair. You keep your skills but they deactivate and you can't use them.
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>>167324480
you can't train omega skills as an alpha
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>>167324725
i understand this, but looking at EVE droid, my skill is still ticking down even though my sub has run out.
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>>167325025
it's wrong
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Who's missions do i run as on machariel?
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>>167325296
Run them for True Power.
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>>167325278
Just logged in for the first time since i ran out of sub and EVE droid was right. The skill has stopped at the time indicated on droid, meaning that it was still ticking down.
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>>167325403
Who?
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>>167325573

>>167324581

I told you mang
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>>167325735
yeah, guess i wanted to test it myself. was gonna resub anyway.
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>>167325579
Sansha's Nation. They live in Stain.
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>>167325857
Oh...im afraid of pirates...And wouldn't it make me not able to enter hisec anymore?
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>>167326752
I'm not sure but I've never run missions for pirates
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>>167326752
Run missions for Sisters of Eve then. They're in highsec.
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>Run missions
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>soe lp
lmao
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>sisters of eve
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>hi sec
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nice memes
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>Sov space
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>bhaalgorn prices
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Im scared...are sisters bad?
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>>167328596
No
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>>167328596
Yes. Sisters are one of the most fucked up pirate factions. Not even sarcasm.
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>>167328220
It's so fucking great, now if goons could move to Sansha space and get the price of intact armor plates and nightmares down...
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>>167328708
I'd rather they go to Serp space, Vigilants are way too expensive.
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>>167328668
how are they fucked up?
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So i guess i need to make another character to farm pirate missions...
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>>167329151
He a you could do that or you could just use your main and do something else like incursions
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>>167329017
SoE CEO is a sister of Serpentis CEO, drug deals under the guise of humanitarian aid, weird Sleeper tech research , trying to destabilize CONCORD with alpha clone tech, etc
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>>167329418
Incursions are gay, i just want to shut crosses without other people telling me to shoot crosses.
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>>167145021
>the retards from 4chan
>capable of forming a functioning system
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>Nullsec needs to be exactly like wormholes
>remove local
>make stargates something you have to scan down
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>>167330530
For what reason.

And stargates stay at the same place, why would you need to scan them down if they always at the same place?
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>Dog thread on /v/
I wonder who's behind this.
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>browsing /v/
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>>167331487
this lmao
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>eos
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>>167330646
~celestial drift~
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Does /eog/ have a CSM candidate?
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>>167333717
Maqari
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>>167330646
>exactly like nullsec
>wormholes stay at the same place
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so what happens if I join another corp while docked at my current Corp station? can I still use the clone bay to move my clone?
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>>167334190
Will Maqari make EVE great again?
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>when you're orbiting a mate and you both hit the AB

https://youtu.be/1Zn958rN-H4
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>>167336898
none of the csm make eve good or great again, their job is to provide feedback to ccp's ideas
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>provide feedback
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>>167310982
with all the new structures, I'd be OK with a anchorable structure that provided local in nullsec and in WH space
to make it balanced in WH space it'd be a lot easier to take down and would work on a delay
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How much can a PI alt make a month in null? Thinking about getting the MCT deal.
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$_$
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Why hasn't CCP added a cooking system yet? I want to make space sandwiches for my friends.
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>Astero
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>>167344706
should be added when they finish decon on the stations
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>>167344707
What did he mean by this?
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stealth bombing seems interesting. is it fun?
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>>167344826
The race tech 2 covops are better and cost less. What are you skill point poor or something?
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>>167349212
Yep. Haven't played for too terribly long
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>>167346796
It is fun for brief periods with long periods of nothingness.

Was in my first blops yesterday and we just hung around shooting the shit until someone found something and opened a cyno for us.
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What if 3200mm plates and X-Large shield extenders were a thing?
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>>167350331
that would be bad
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>>167350331
Just give BSs the similar bonus to plates and extenders like supers have. LSEs in particular are pretty bad on BSs
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>>167350972
Nice bait Archon desu
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>>167350972
>No DCU
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>50000MN Microwarpdrive II
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>repper
>no neuts
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>Capital Armor Repairer II
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>lasts 1m40s
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>>167351418
there's nothing wrong with plates on bs shitter
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Then rebalance shield extenders so smalls actually make sense and larges aren't wasted on BSs
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>can only have bullshit module OR DC
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>"Skill training completed"
>>
hadrcore
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>activate acceleration gate
>"Session change already in progress"
?????
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>Jump a gate
>Takes about 5 seconds to respond
It wasn't like this in 2013, what's going on? It's not just gates either, the game feels much laggier in general.
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>docking takes 10 seconds so you can be easily shot down even using bookmarks
>60% tidi with empty local
>traffic control in wormholes
>rubberbanding into colliders only to be flinged into most unexpected directions
>rubberbanding in warp
All recently added new features
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>>167353430
the server is being ddos'd by the restless spirits of deceased eve players
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>>167344706
QUAFE BURGERS
for all your quafe needs, quafe burgers.
DRINK IT
EAT IT
QUAFE!

Do they even have real food in EVE? do capsuleers even need to eat?
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>kill some faggot who farms elite epithal kills in our area
>he starts sperging in local
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>>167291926
>>167292380
Please tell me what corps your in, brave is literally infuriating.
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>6 day old industrial suspect can flipping and flying into trade hubs right after with flag still on
At least he wasn't using autopilot
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>>167356834
Any null corp is better, even the shittiest renter corps.
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>>167353173
>press warp to station
>you cannot do that while you're warping
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>>167356834
Signal Cartel if you wanna do exploration in null sec.
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>Signal Cartel
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>>167359284
It's nowhere near as insufferable as Brave and it's only for beginners.
>>
Is kong the best eve corp?
>>
who
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>>167356834
Brave Newbros
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>>167353127
whats the purpose of this archon?
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>>167361185
What's your purpose?
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>>167352273
Smalls never made sense, they add so little tank theres no point in using them

MSE or go home

Theres been CSM talk about making a true battleship sized plate like a 3200mm or a x-large shield extender
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>>167361309
the fact that we have so many cruisers with broken fitting that can easily fit 1600s doesn't mean 1600 is not a battleship plate
>>
goddamn I'm finally on the test server, there goes my friday night
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>>167361392
No, 1600mm plates were never a "battleship" module.

They've been in the game for 10+ years and cruisers have been able to fit them easily as long.

And yes if CCP adds an extra large plate to ships it'll be a great addition so we can stop seeing retarded triple plated shit
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>>167361392
Also, 800mm plates have no purpose, they're shit in every way and fitting them is a waste of a low because they give such little bonus.

A 1600mm plate and 1 trimark gives less penalties and more tank than 800mm plate with 3 trimarks
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>>167361728
any increase in tanking to any class other than t1 destroyers is a retarded idea

logistics aids blobs have not been fixed, pirate implants have not been fixed
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>>167361859
they're occasionally ok

I agree though armor rig penalties are horrible
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>>167361904
>logistics
>battleship sized plates
fucking unrelated

>pirate implants have not been fixed
theres nothing wrong with pirate implants.

>blobs haven't been fixed
literally gitgud, this game was founded on this shit. Its not new , its not going away and there is no "fixing" the simple idea of bringing more people to a fight.

You're just mad as fuck huge lowsec alliances like SC require high grade slaves and dump 1.5b on super faction fit machariels you get ass ravaged by because your shitty dinky fleet can't compete against 100 guys
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>>167362117
of course it's related retard. you can never ever outdamage enemy reps because they rep insane amounts. by increasing ehp by a huge amount, which is what you're proposing with a new big plate, you're making it much more difficult to kill things. this is bad, it's already very difficult to kill things

>theres nothing wrong with pirate implants

no, an implant set giving you +50% armour is extremely fucked up

>literally gitgud

why don't you?
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>>167361904
>logistics aids blobs have not been fixed
>I'm entitled to free kills, CCP pls nerf them from bringing more ships
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>>167362367
>I'm fucking retarded
>I'm entitled to do well in pvp because I fitted a big tank and have lots of guardians
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>>167362359
>you can never ever outdamage enemy reps because they rep insane amounts.
You've never been in these fleets, enemy logi can be overwhelmed easily with raw alpha or raw DPS. You clearly have NEVER been apart of any of these sized fleets.

>what you're proposing
what the CSM proposed.
>more difficult to kill things
make them more resilient to getting alpha'd by carriers and blap dreads.

>its already difficult to kill them
gitgud

>its extremely fucked up
cry about it, they don't go out of null with them. Theres nothing wrong with them, wanna get sick frags then fucking smart bomb them you dumb fuck.

>why don't you git gud
I don't have lossmails and I don't bitch about my enemies bringing more than me
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>>167362359
Did you play before all the HP changes? EVE used to be sniping battleships online, every fight was all about alphaing the other fleet from 200km.

At least today there are many viable doctrines and more than one useful ship class.
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>>167362494
I do well in PVP because I bring relevant comparable fleets to fight

>wah he brought logi
why didn't you?

I never said I was entitled to anything, you're obviously mad someone else did.

Are you seriously crying that PL dropped 80 artillery abaddons? Are you upset that you got out numbered and it wasn't in your favor? literally shut the fuck up and stop crying
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>>167362549
>raw alpha

guess what you're fucking up by doing a massive tank increase on already very tanky ships retard?

>getting alphad by carriers and blap dreads

yeah namedropping overpowered things doesn't make it ok. you're also more resilient to non-broken things too, which is bad

>I don't have lossmails

ok friend nice argument

>>167362639
yes. every fleet is about having lots of logi and countering enemy logi. it's fucking stale. any kind of tank creep could only be advocated by a retarded shitter

>>167362740
what the fuck are you talking about though. all I'm saying is tank creep is terrible, and you're imagining all this shit I never said
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>>167362817
>guess what you're fucking up by doing a massive tank increase on already very tanky ships retard?
You don't even play in these fleets. the FC calls for hold fire so the entire fleet can fire at once. It doesn't take many ships with tachyons or cruise missiles to alpha SC's 400k EHP machariels.

>name dropping over powered things
you cry about fucking everything, gitgud

>what the fuck are you talking about though. all I'm saying is tank creep is terrible, and you're imagining all this shit I never said
muh tank creep? You bitch about everythjing under the sun you cry about things you've never even participated in. You magically assume that because you have huge tank you can't be alpha'd or you can't overwhelm logi

neut the logi, jam the logi, damp the logi, alpha the logi, over power the logi, use a command destroyer and boosh the logi. Tracking disrupt the DPS shut off their tank with neuts.

Hell the ANTI BLOB TOOL for the last 5 years has been doing bombers with bombs.

There are TONS of tools at your disposal for stopping these fucks and you still bitch
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>>167363121
>You don't even play in these fleets

this isn't an argument

>It doesn't take many ships with tachyons or cruise missiles to alpha SC's 400k EHP machariels

that's why they fly them right, because they're so easy to kill

>you cry about fucking everything, gitgud

kys

>you've never participated in

this isn't an argument either

>You magically assume that because you have huge tank you can't be alpha'd or you can't overwhelm logi

I didn't say this. more tank makes it harder to die. it's already very hard to die. it's as simple as that

>There are TONS of tools at your disposal for stopping these fucks and you still bitch

there's tonnes of tools at your disposal retard why do you need a 9999mm plate? I've heard no reason for it so far
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>>167363340
>this isn't an argument
Yea it is, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about when you make up shit that I can't (and by extension haven't) over come logi reps with alpha or DPS

>that's why they fly them right, because they're so easy to kill
That doesn't make sense, if they were flying right and flying skillfully they wouldn't die as easily. But hard counters exist to virtually every ship combo and bringing the right fleet to the right job based on your intel is what will help you win. EVE is more than just what happens on screen you dumb fuck.

>this isn't an argument either
You don't know anything about the shit you're crying about and its clearly evident.

>I didn't say this. more tank makes it harder to die. it's already very hard to die. it's as simple as that
Says you, SC loses tons of those machs all the time they aren't fucking hard to kill when you bring the right tools to party.

>there's tonnes of tools at your disposal retard why do you need a 9999mm plate? I've heard no reason for it so far
These two are non-sequiter. Hard counters will exist even after a new plated module
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>>167363432
No cap booster? that capital shield booster drains a lot of cap really quick

drop the cap rigs and the cap recharger for resist mods and use a cap booster or 2 capital batteries
>>
What does tank creep even matter on BS? It only serves to place BS in a better position pvp-wise.
Since that position is currently gimmicky shit only, it seems like a good change.

More people willing to trade mobility/speed/tracking for making the cruiser -> bs jump.
Pvp becomes less cruiser oriented and more cross-size.
New fits without buffer tank taking all your rig and half your low slots.
Etc, etc.

Literally nothing but positives.
I'm all for XLE and 3200 plates personally.
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>>167363698
when you tell people they don't know what they're talking about but actually they do know what they're talking about, it just makes them think you're a massive retard

>overcome logi reps with dps

this is not a thing. each guardian counters many damage ships

>EVE is more than just what happens on screen you dumb fuck

amazing argument there

>You don't know anything about the shit you're crying about and its clearly evident.

it's clearly evident you've never participated in a non-retarded post

>These two are non-sequiter. Hard counters will exist even after a new plated module

>Says you, SC loses tons of those machs all the time they aren't fucking hard to kill when you bring the right tools to party.

if they're trash why do they fly them?

making bigger plates would increase their tank substantially, making it substantially harder to alpha them, even though they're already hundreds of % more ehp than reasonably fitted battleships
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>>167363960
>What does tank creep even matter on BS? It only serves to place BS in a better position pvp-wise.
This, it'll help them compete against capital ships immensely which are prone to alpha-ing many subcaps.

Battleships should be the ultimate subcap against capital ships.

The move from the cruiser meta should shift upward, bigger fleets call for bigger toys. Battleships now rarely get fielded because the T1 battleships are lackluster and or completely unusable in a fleet. Only faction battleships really matter even then they're still highly susceptible to capitals
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>>167364109
>when you tell people they don't know what they're talking about but actually they do know what they're talking about, it just makes them think you're a massive retard

Saying stupid shit like "you can't beat their logi" proves you don't know fuckall.

>this is not a thing. each guardian counters many damage ships
It literally IS a thing. Cruise missile alpha is a great hard counter, no amount of logi will save you from raw alpha, its why ishtars were so great because bouncers had extremely high alpha from such a range.

>it's clearly evident you've never participated in a non-retarded post
Now this is not an argument.

>if they're trash why do they fly them?
I never said they were trash.

>making bigger plates would increase their tank substantially, making it substantially harder to alpha them, even though they're already hundreds of % more ehp than reasonably fitted battleships
There are still tons of counters we use all the time regardless of tank. We alpha'd a naglfar in rattlesnakes because the nag shield boosted but couldn't cycle its next shield boost fast enough before it started to bleed armor

When you say shit like "this doesn't happen" it proves you don't play the game, because it does happen a lot. If it didn't there wouldn't even be a winner in any of these fights it'd be a rag tag stalemate of no one killing no one which never happens
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>>167363850
it's not running 24/7
only run it when I drop to around 80% shield
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>>167364405
Yea but still the capital cap boosters use so much more capacitor now without any good cap mods like cap boosters or capital batteries you're quickly capped out

what are you doing? ratting?
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>>167364394
>It literally IS a thing. Cruise missile alpha is a great hard counter, no amount of logi will save you from raw alpha, its why ishtars were so great because bouncers had extremely high alpha from such a range.

yes. alpha. do you realise that alphaing someone is not the same as outdamaging logi reps? you're going on and on about how you can outdamage logi reps, and then in your explanation you're actually talking about alpha

>I never said they were trash.

>they die all the time, they're super easy to kill with 100 alpha battleships!

>When you say shit like "this doesn't happen" it proves you don't play the game, because it does happen a lot

no it proves you can't read

I'm still waiting for a good reason for tank creep on battleships beyond "it's possible to alpha them in overpowered ships and we can't nerf the overpowered ships because reasons"
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>>167364505
>ratting
yes
won't be seeing any PvP unless shit really hits the fan
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>>167364643
>yes. alpha. do you realise that alphaing someone is not the same as outdamaging logi reps?
they go hand in hand. You can overpower logi reps easily even if they have enough. Not enough reps quickly enough spells disaster. Its evidence of slow logi or slow cycle times. Its very easy and it happens ALL the time, don't kid yourself.

>no it proves you can't read
No it proves you spew the same nonsense about logi being over powered and it proves you've never played in the big fights to know how they work. Stop lying stop posting and fuck off
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>>167364829
replace your resist mods with TP's, Omnidirectional tracking links and drone navigation computers, it'll help your DPS a lot
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>>167364874
no, they're distinct things. 90% of the time you are just alphaing, even if you aren't flying an alpha meme fleet - reps are not properly applied in time and shit explodes. one does not actually outdamage applied logi reps because 1 logi reps as much as like 10 damage ships apply

we're already way too far into dealing with logistics cancer because tanking is fucking stupid nuts with links slaves and huge hp on faction ships. bigger plates would push us further into this shit, make it harder to alpha things, you'd need to obsess even more than you do already in every fight about breaking enemy reps with damps and meme alpha and shit, because doing things normally will be even less effective than it is now

>Stop lying stop posting and fuck off

just kill yourself
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>>167365212
>90% of the time you are just alphaing,
90% of the time I'm applying too much damage to quickly.

Guardian reps take the lock time plus the rep cycle time to apply

I have about 7 seconds to kill this ship before guardians all get on him. Even if only a few guardians get to him I still win because I know 5/10 guardians won't be enough. If the logi DO catch I immediately order to unlock him and switch targets to force it again. You have no idea how these fleet fights operate and its not as simple as just "fire, is he ded? oh they have too much logi" there are tons more things you can do to get around logi which includes using EWAR, MJDFG's, neuts, etc.

There are SO many things you can do and you bitch and whine with such weak arguments that you proved to everyone you don't know what you're talking about.

>links slaves and huge HP
I was already referring to this, you were obviously suck just on logi. I already deal with all of these things and I still end up winning loads of fights, getting around the logi and alpha-ing through the huge HP machariels.

Stop crying you dumb fuck
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Sometimes I feel like those 2 are the same two anons throwing shit at each other every general.
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>>167365707
I love it. Watching internet meta fights gives me a kind of joy I can't find in any other kind of argument.
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>>167365669
>90% of the time I'm applying too much damage to quickly.

>Guardian reps take the lock time plus the rep cycle time to apply

congrats you alphad through logi reps like everyone else in the game

>you bitch and whine

it appears that I am, because you're so bad and dumb and you don't understand simple shit

> I already deal with all of these things and I still end up winning loads of fights

I don't know why you're bragging like this. you're an F1 monkey in shadow cartel. nobody gives a shit. you fly in a fleet of 100 people and fight other fleets of 100 people and find things to alpha things just fine. get good or kys, there is other pvp in this game
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>larger plates and extenders are bad
>because tank implants, logi, cookie cutter fits
Nice fucking arguments pal. You should really read what you type before clicking "Post".
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>>167365785
Yeah, the only times this general is alive.
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>>167365903
>congrats you alphad through logi reps like everyone else in the game
burning damage over 7 seconds is not alpha, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

If I wanted alpha I'd order my entire fleet to hold then fire at once. thats alpha, not shooting DPS over 7 seconds.

>it appears that I am, because you're so bad and dumb and you don't understand simple shit

The only simple thing is you and your terrible bitching based on fucking nothing. You don't know ANYTHING

>I don't know why you're bragging like this. you're an F1 monkey in shadow cartel. nobody gives a shit. you fly in a fleet of 100 people and fight other fleets of 100 people and find things to alpha things just fine. get good or kys, there is other pvp in this game
Not an argument you dumb fuck, I'm not in SC, SC doesn't fly rattlesnakes or nightmares

You don't have any arguments beyond "kys" "ur an f1 monkey" and "hurr 100 people"

You're dumb, stop posting, you don't know what you're talking about again
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>>167365931
>durr I'm gay and can't read

nice arguments too there friend

>>167366256
it's killing the enemy ship before logi reps are properly cycling. I am smarter and more knowledgeable than you

>my fleet

you don't run fleets. the point is the logi reps are not really actually on the ship you're killing, this is very simple shit m8, please become smarter

>You don't have any arguments beyond "kys" "ur an f1 monkey" and "hurr 100 people"

I had a nice argument

unbreakable massive gay tanks are fucking shit, we need less not more. only an anchored lowsec faggot hitler would think otherwise

kill you'reself
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>>167366472
>it's killing the enemy ship before logi reps are properly cycling. I am smarter and more knowledgeable than you
Really? Because you just called what I said before alpha even though it wasn't

Now you shifted into "well its just killing logi its the same thing Where are you at anyway?


>you don't run fleets. the point is the logi reps are not really actually on the ship you're killing, this is very simple shit m8, please become smarter
Thats not what you said before, you're just regurgitating what I said now.

>you don't run fleets
you don't play the fucking game you fucking mongoloid
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>>167366472
>it's killing the enemy ship before logi reps are properly cycling. I am smarter and more knowledgeable than you
Thats not alpha, are you dumb?
>the point is the logi reps are not actually on the ship you're killing
what does this even mean? the entire point is to confuse the logi by switching targets rapidly.
>I am smarter and more knowledge able
not when you say the complete wrong things
>I had a nice argument
"kys" is not an argument

>unbreakable
I thought you just said the logi wasn't on them?
>we need less not more
says you, with the way EVE is going its the opposite of what you want
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>>167366809
>even though it wasn't

that's your (wrong) opinion. you're killing someone before logi reps apply, in one or a few volleys. whether you consider this to be alpha or not I don't really care. you aren't outdamaging logi reps because the reps aren't on. as I've explained like 10 times now, when you extend someone's buffer massively, you will be alpa (or whatever) -ing them a lot less and end up fighting against actually applied logi reps, which you will never break because it's fairly impossible

>Thats not what you said before, you're just regurgitating what I said now.

no, what's happening is the same thing as always - you can't read and you have brain problems, so I have to explain myself like 10 times and now you're trying to point out inconsistensies in my repeated explanations

kill yourself
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>>167366965
>with the way EVE is going its the opposite of what you want

I know, hence why I never take part in mass logi/triage shitfests anymore. because it's boring as fuck
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>>167366472
>any increase in tanking to any class other than t1 destroyers [, implying larger buffer modules,] is a retarded idea [because] logistics aids blobs [...], pirate implants
It's literally right here, what part did I fail to understand that you claim I can't read?
>>167361904

>nice arguments too there friend
But I didn't provide any. I only pointed out that what was said were literal non-arguments.
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>>167367221
then fucking unsub and uninstall you big baby

>>167367067
>that's your (wrong) opinion.
no its a fucking fact. Thats not alpha you don't know shit

Alpha works even if logi are repping you dumb shit.

>I don't really care
you care enough to reply with your autism.

>you aren't outdamaging logi reps
yes I am, it happens all the time

>I've explained
you haven't explained shit, you sit here and bitch and cry about some overpowered shit, spew a bunch of nonsense like "you can never overpower logi" because you don't know fuck

>you will be alphaing a lot less.
I know what fits they fly I know how much alpha I need, I know I can win thats how it works.

You're fucking autistic
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>>167361904
>m-muh fleets
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>>167367067
You're so autistic you went from spewing vitrol and nonsense to just spewing word vomit. The "I've explained 10 times" is hilarious because you don't explain anything you just repeat the same disproven lies over and over
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>>167367470
>things are already very tanky because of all these broken tank increasing things
>so increasing tank even further without fixing these things would maybe be bad

it's so simple

>>167367504
>unsub and uninstall

I'd rather just continue taking part in non-cancer pvp, because it's fun and involves skill rather than guardians

>Alpha works even if logi are repping you dumb shit

I never said it doesn't, you dumb shit

>yes I am, it happens all the time

no, you're volleying through them

>you bitch and cry

actually no, none of my replies are bitching or crying, but all of yours are

>spew a bunch of nonsense like "you can never overpower logi" because you don't know fuck

in smaller fights you can't volley things. in bigger fights, raising the bar on what you can volley means even fewer things die (mfw those amazing lowsec fleet battles where 1 ship dies then the fleet warps out)

>You're fucking autistic

no you are
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How abour not flying in blob fleets you nigger
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>>167367637
yeah, and you misunderstanding something, saying something dumb, and then thinking you've disproven something is hilarious

>the only way you kill stuff is by volleying through logi reps guys
>not true anon I volleyed something through logi reps once! lie disproved!

oh man I've been disproven oh no
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>>167368015
>I'd rather just continue taking part in non-cancer pvp, because it's fun and involves skill rather than guardians
No fucking unsub because everything you're crying about is 90% of the shit in the game

1600mm plates are OP because fitting is too much on cruisers

slaves are OP because shit

Blobs are OP because I died

Links are OP because I didn't bring any and I died

>you're volleying through them
synonymous with alpha you dumb fuck

but if it takes me 7+ seconds to kill thats certainly not alpha at all

>no
no it doesn't happen all the time or no its not alpha?

>you are bitching
quote me where I'm bitching

>in smaller fights
No one gives a flying fuck about small fights
>but raising the bar also means you can't alpha shit
this makes no sense, I can definitely alpha virtually everything in large fights.

>>167368156
You're fucking autistic spewing this word vomit, theres nothing to understand because its incoherent
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>No one gives a flying fuck about small fights
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>>167368156
Hey you know anon

You can bitch about everything you think is OP all you want

But it doesn't mean anyone cares, nor are you correct
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>>167368590
>is 90% of the shit in the game

it's 90% of your game, because you're a faggot and you're in SC or snuff or something

>1600mm plates are OP because fitting is too much on cruisers

T3 cruisers are overpowered though, you're very retarded if you disagree

>slaves are OP because shit

they are, it's too difficult to pod people in empire space without flying gimmick ships

>Blobs are OP because I died

never said this, stop making shit up

>Links are OP because I didn't bring any and I died

actually they're op because the bonuses are too strong and can apply to 250 people. in small gang stuff they're no big deal

>synonymous with alpha you dumb fuck

a minute ago you were having a fit about me saying killing something in 2 volleys doesn't count as alpha

>7+

if you damp all the logi down to 20 seconds lock time then I think it does

no, you aren't outdpsing their reps. reps aren't applying fully because you're doing blob pvp where alpha is easy

I need more char limit
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>>167368590
>No one gives a flying fuck about small fights

maybe you should try it sometime, you might get good and have fun

>this makes no sense, I can definitely alpha virtually everything in large fights.

that's a retarded thing to say. there is an amount of damage you do, right, and there is an amount of people you have. considering that you can only ever kill things by alphaing or near-alphaing or whatever, increasing the hit points on things by a big amount means you will not kill things much, unless you had massive overkill in the first place

which is still pretty far from being relevant here:

there is still zero good reasons posted explaining why it would be good to further increase the tank on battleships
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>we can't have nice things because anon's world revolves around arty mach fleets
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>>167368015
>things are already very tanky because of all these broken tank increasing things
>so increasing tank even further without fixing these things would maybe be bad

Have you considered that maybe "increasing tank even further" would mandate a rebalance?
There's a limit on how OP things can get before they get slapped back into balance.

Besides, things that are "broken tank" already are allowed to be broken because they're limited in scope.
If you were to bump all BS tank up, that'd warrant some form of balancing. Because then not just "SC cookie cutter fits" are 400k ehp, but *ALL BS* are 400k ehp.
This pretty much FORCES changes regarding tank power-multipliers.


General idea is as follows:
Issues you can think up during design are NOT issues. Why? Because you can design around them.

Being against some change because "something will break" is not an argument - because making the change involves *making sure no things get broken in progress*.
I don't blame you for lacking belief in CCP's competence, but let's not steep that low.

So when we consider adding 3200 plates we think:
>adding 3200 plates in a form that fits the metagame
not
>tank creep that slaps flat 200k ehp extra on all BS regardless of what's OP and what's not, with 0 regard for metagame
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>>167368968
>it's 90% of your game
No thats 90% the ENTIRE game, the fights that gets EVE into the news, the fights everyone talks about all of it.

>T3 cruisers are OP
cry about it
>they are op
cry about it
>never said this
> blobs have not been fixed,
>>167361904
you said it.

>actually links are OP
cry about it

>in small gang stuff they're no big deal
No one cares about small gang stuff at all ever

>2 volleys
no one said volley but you you stupid shit, cruise missiles take 8-10 seconds to cycle so "2 volleys" is at least 16 seconds you stupid fuck

>if you damp the logi
Oh man deja vu, I said that 30 fuckin posts ago where I said use every EWAR under the sun to get rid of them but you insisted they were overpowered despite all the easy counters to it.
>>
I can fucking make any BS tank like hell when you slap 1b of modules on it and plug 4b in your head and have every lowslot resist mod or plate and have links. Small fleets or solo work entirelly different.
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>>167369096
>there is still zero good reasons posted explaining why it would be good to further increase the tank on battleships
because it would further separate the meta from cruisers and make battleships a preferred doctrine to fly
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>>167368681
yeah imagine that. In a MASSIVELY multiplayer game people aren't overly worried in catering to the moba and fighting game audience.
>>
>the fights that gets EVE into the news, the fights everyone talks about all of it.
>he actually thinks anyone gives a fuck about SC circlejerk
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>>167369623
>>he actually thinks anyone gives a fuck about SC circlejerk
Forbes sure does when a gigantic battle happens

Do you see a forbes journalist knocking on your door to find out what miner you blopsed on yesterday?
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>>167369281
>Have you considered that maybe "increasing tank even further" would mandate a rebalance?

I think the state of things as they are mandates a rebalance desu, shit's retarded. but if all we're hearing is broken op thing is getting more broken op, then it's not encouraging. when you're expecting ccp to fix something, and then after ages of nothing they come out and are doing the opposite, what are we to think? I don't think anything about "the meta" or it improving the relatively shitty battleships as well as the mach could make it ok
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>>167369605
>MASSIVELY multiplayer
Your fucking retarded. Massively means number of people on the server, not in fleets you dub faggot. By that logic EVE is the only mmo in the world.

>>167369726
>le forbs mem
Simply eric
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>>167369853
>>le forbs mem
>Simply eric
>it doesn't count because I just called it a meme
fuck off with your autism, you're wrong

>>167369732
Battleships are getting huge buffs come this spring according to CSM

Go cry about it in your kiddie corner of fantasy, EVE is getting better and better and all you do is bitch and cry because you're a whiny ass bitch
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>>167364984
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>>167369853
>Your fucking retarded. Massively means number of people on the server, not in fleets you dub faggot. By that logic EVE is the only mmo in the world.
lol no, CCP has never given a fuck about "small gang" shit, small gang is irrelevant in every way.

>by that logic EVE is the only mmo in the world
where do you get this shit, thats not the logic at all
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>>167369953
fuck I forgot the NSA makes EWAR not work

you can remove the TP for another omnidirectional or another drone nav
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>>167369732
Well, you can always make it so the change affects the sub-par BS only.
Limit mach's and other pirate bullshit-tank BS by cutting fitting space or w/e.


If anything, I'd say the lack of proper BS-sized buffer modules are increasing the disparity between 5b overtanked pirate bricks and cheapo-t1 BSes.

So it actually serves to bring all BS tank in line, as such proper counters can be implemented (because all tanks are similar).
If one ship can have triple the tank and you implement counters to the triple-tank ships, the third-tank ships get obliterated as collateral.
That's not good.

You want tank values similar. BS-sized buffer modules are working towards that goal.
Making BS properly killable is secondary to that.

>>167369948
>Battleships are getting huge buffs come this spring according to CSM
Nice. They were in dire need of that for a long long time
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>>167370067
>thats not the logic at all
>massively multiplayer means massive fleets
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>>167369475
>No thats 90% the ENTIRE game, the fights that gets EVE into the news, the fights everyone talks about all of it.

lmao. anon, gaming journalism is not an argument

>cry about it

kys about it

>blobs

I said logistics aids blobs. they are cancerous in all forms, but they scale in a pretty horrible way. this is not the same as complaining that someone has more people than you, it's about logistics being broken

>No one cares about small gang stuff at all ever

what do blob alliances actually do in between the monthly blob battle? do you sit in station and agree with each other about how """relevant""" you are?

>easy counters

I don't think having to have all of your fleets be entirely about countering enemy logi because otherwise you get 0 kills is really that good desu. all of the "counters" are generic by the way, not specific to logi at all. so if damps ever get nerfed for example, your "easy counter" is gone
>>
>>167370160
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>>167369948
>Battleships are getting huge buffs come this spring according to CSM

could you post a link to the source of this?

and maybe write a better post next time, you didn't really contribute anything here
>>
>+50 hull
>>
>omg forbes-sempai noticed my lowsec shadow fagtel arty mach circlejerk therefore this is the correct way to play the game!!!
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>>167370476
>lmao. anon, gaming journalism is not an argument
Forbes is not a gaming oriented journal you thick faggot

>kys about
kek what a weak comeback

>i said logisics aids blobs
lots of logi comes with blob fleets theres no difference here, cry about it

>what do blob alliances actually do in between the monthly blob battle? do you sit in station and agree with each other about how """relevant""" you are?
irrelevant
>I don't think having counters is good desu
nah fuck off, counters are good, it diversifies gameplay outside of DPS races.

>>167370597
it was in the CSM minutes
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>>167370241
>If anything, I'd say the lack of proper BS-sized buffer modules are increasing the disparity between 5b overtanked pirate bricks and cheapo-t1 BSes.

very slightly I guess, but I'd rather go with targeted nerfs to overpowered things rather than power creep, which shits on everything

I'd start by just cutting down the faction hp bonus to barely anything, and only buffing the very obviously terrible battleships like the apocalypse, and then doing many huge nerfs to all the offending shit that ruins the game for all ships rather than just battleships, i.e. t3 cruisers, half the pirate cruisers, logi and I guess capitals in general
>>
>>167370912
>doing journalism about games is not gaming journalism

well even if you're correct, I don't think you've really made a good case. non-eve players find blob battles interesting. how is this relevant to eve players? why does this mean we should want blob battles to involve very little skill and be completely bland logi/alpha shitshows?

>>I don't think having counters is good desu

you did it again. I wrote something sensible, and you read something entirely different

>CSM minutes

latest csm minutes on eveo are a year old if this is the right place to look https://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/meeting-minutes/
>>
I'm having to unironically watch facebook videos to find out what the csm is up to

>this fucking game
>>
>non ironically thinking Forbes matters in 2017 when it's just a blog platform
That autist with "muh big fights in the news" already was btfo out a couple of generals ago and he's back here again with the same arguements :^)
>>
If Catiz in order to preserve the bloodline requests to put your seed inside her will you comply?
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>be in horde
>20 man neut fleet like 10 jumps away
>standing fleet always more than 100 people
>DOCK UP DOCK UP
>watch them roam pocket with our dicks in our hands
>anyone remotely in charge always goes "WE HAVE TO WAIT TO PING THEN FORM UP"
>always more than an hour
So what's the point of a fucking standing fleet then
Oh yeah, we lost a thanatos too, all 100+ of us just watched in tether as he died because >gotta form up
>>
>>167372947
>>anyone remotely in charge always goes "WE HAVE TO WAIT TO PING THEN FORM UP"
This never happens, you don't need a ping to form
>>
>her
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>>167373195
well then 6 out of a hundred actually undocks in a combat ship
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>>167372947
yeah i mean its kinda weird but at the same time i have never even been dropped on and i have really good ticks so i can't complain. most of the time i just keep ratting when people pop into the pocket and its a non issue.
>>
>>167372947
What were the hundred of you flying, horde sounds like a bunch of cucks, you could just form a fleet of beam mallers or rail moas fuck anything up.
>>
who /scared of wormholes/ here
>>
>>167373734
only little bitches like you
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>>167373372
>you could just form a fleet of beam mallers or rail moas fuck anything up.
exactly. And yet people keep ratting when there's a fucking fleet or dock up and shitpost and do absolutely fuckall
>>
>>167373734
>jump into wormhole
>it's empty just like the last 100 wormholes I jumped into
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>>167373803
Been playing for a week and have gone into 7 wormholes, and people have tried to kill me every single time

;_;
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>>167373372
one guy on comms were complaining about this, another literally said "you want to be the change you want to see, go ahead"
Jesus what a bunch of cucks, time to drop corp
Any good corps out there?
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>>167374091
Shadow Cartel has those Mach fleets, I read about them in Forbes, I think they are pretty good!
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>>167374080
stop probing in busy systems
>>
I should have fallen for the sentry drone meme, I get similar clear times to heavies but no worrying about aggro and not having to reduce flight time when switching targets.
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Please meme.
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>>167376679
>when you land a wrecking shot on an only inty that's been tackling you
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>>167376679
>free ammo
>capacitor is empty
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>my ship is cap stable if I don't shoot, don't use MWD and use cap booster
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>>167378027
>mfw ship is cap stable till I undoock
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>>167378027
>mfw ship is cap stable if I sell it to someone else
>>
>Medium Energy Discharge Elutriation
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>>167374091
Goons (except karma)
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>unironically Goons
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>>167378027
>mfw ship is cap stable if I don't open the game
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>>167379542
It's unironically a choice unless you want to go live somewhere east/southeast in the literally who land
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>>167377716
feels amazing
>>
kevin whats up?
>>
Kevin
>>
meanwhile why guy was complaining about standing fleet not giving content horde dunked billions upon billions worth of EE shit and are about to head out on a dank roam in a little bit. Maybe you shouldn't be looking for pvp in the farmville section of the corp.
>>
>>167382003
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=3840&b=7413300&e=140&t=eaaaq
Feels good to be a scrub
>>
>good goy, come join ebin blob warfare
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>>167382393
Uninstall if you don't like. L I T E R A L L Y thousands of fucking small scale multiplayer out there.
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>>167382003
>>167382250

What did he mean by this?
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>>167382991

It means if keepstars were not boring to shoot they would be in deep shit.
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