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EVE Online general /eog/

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>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes, Eve is F2P with some restrictions and you can earn enough money ingame to get a subscription.

>I just started, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using any referral link(chaining them with friends works best).
If you have no friends create two accounts and refer yourself, you'll need an alt anyway.
Or use this link:
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=4eca5d19-7c52-44fd-9de6-ff7b1398159c&action=buddy
If you upgrade to Omega send me a mail with the date when you upgraded and I will give you the entire PLEX.

>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy

Future:
>Citadel Insurance! (Feb)

Present:
>Winter War

Past:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)

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/dog/ /eveg/

Permalink: http://orph.link/eog
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thanks calvin
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And here I hoped this general would just die in peace and never come back.
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Thank you based Kevin.
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>>166868212
When Kevin loses the will to live I guess it will.
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>Amarr
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http://jitajitajita.ytmnd.com/
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first for infinite ammo
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in the last thread, someone mentioned if you smartbombed a bunch of concord, each would summon like 5 more or whatever. is that recursive?
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can I make contracts from anywhere in the galaxy?
So make jita alt, courier contract to the approved JF pilot, he takes the bear asses to null, and then I contract the items to my main?
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>>166870008
Yeah, pretty much. But you can only do it for private contracts, if I remember correctly.
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How many of you would actually join a 4Chan Corporation?

I'm not talking about Love Squad, Broski, White Stag, Tengoo, I'm talking about making an actual 4 Chan corp.

Like the opposite of Dreddit.
I think this general has an average age of 21+ so there is a chance it could be a more mature group of people.

And just like Dreddit we will fly our Clover flag and not try to be anon.

Anyone?
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>>166870135
Sounds cool. How would we call it? Maybe Moot's Last Jihad?
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>>166870135
>MLJ's and All Out corpses are still warm and someone wants to create another 4chan corp again
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>>166870267
>>166870316

Corps with 11 Members, full of shitters, and not actively recruiting....
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>>166870394
And why do you think a new 4chan corp will be any different?
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>>166870135
sure, ain't got shit to do anyway
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>>166870394
They're not actively recruiting because they died within a week.
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can the Rokhs align time be improved easily?
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>>166871180
I'd use the Naga, but it can't fit 1400mm guns, and these NPC quest things are getting annoying.
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>it's the 1400mm naga autist again
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>caliber jealousy
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>EVE's barrier to entry is its complexity and learning curve
>not the 3/4 month slog of core fitting/ship skills just to have a half decent frigate
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>>166871282
>1400mm
why the fuck aren't you fitting 3500mm guns?
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>>166872712
find me some and I'll mount em

money is no object.
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>>166872640
>too poor to buy injectors
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>>166872917
>investing full AAA price and more in a game that has yet to give you a single reason to
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>>166873048
listen bud I made enough money in month to get plex and 2 skill injectors while wardec'd and I'm not even a vet, I literally started playing last month. AND I had time to join a low sec corp and roam around killing stuff and exploding. No, I don't play 24/7. You are just incompetent. I bet you never achieved anything worthwhile in your life and thought you can do something in Eve, but this game won't just handle everything to you on a silver platter like WoW. If you don't even enjoy this game why are you trying to play it? Nothing will change if you get a BS or a carrier. Just leave and go fap and cry yourself to sleep. All the possibilities to do something with your life are gone. You will not find redemption in this game. Accept you are a failure and continue leeching. Or admit you lost at life and kill yourself, this would would be better without you.
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>>166873173
yeah, no
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>>166872640
I got my first solo kill after 2 weeks of skill training

git gud
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who cute here
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do rogue drones do any ewar like other pirate npc's?
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>one day make 200m ISK in an hour
>next day find nothing but data and sleeper sites after 5 hours online
Why did I fall for the wormhole explo meme.
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wtf is going on in eystur?
nothing on zkill, but 27 ships destroyed in the last hour on map
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>>166875038
They web and point.
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>>166875328
nothing like ECM though?
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>>166875467
No, nothing else. You can run hordes in a badly skilled vni.
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>>166875596
thanks
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>>166875038
you anom ratting in the drone lands?
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>>166878596
yes
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>>166878679
coming for you rn
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>>166878679
drone lands are more suited for mining and carrier ratting because you can go an entire day without a neut poking in. Bad for subcap ratters because they dont have a rock haven equivalent, so all the time your drones spend traveling to rats all over the grid eats a good amount of your ticks, also no loot. Your choice of lower ticks but you spend much less time docked because of the higher safety.
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fuggin eve market guy said PLEX's would be in the low 900 mils by now. instead they are hovering around 1 bil.
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>>166881471
that's what you get for trusting a jew
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>>166875320
Concord?
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>wormhole shitter comes into system
>doesn't do anything except kill corvettes
what a fag
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>>166881798
people getting concorded shows up on zkill im pretty sure
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>>166873613

Yeah which is only possible against an objectively terrible player. Starting skills/fitting vs practically any other pilot in low sec / fw will get absolutely hammered. They will catch your kite, far out damage and tank your brawler. T2 and faction ships everywhere. Of course you can score a kill against someone asleep or a carebear, but 95% of others you won't stand a chance against.
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so if a mission wants you to kill another empire's ships is there any reason to not decline it?
you lose standing and dont get bounties for killing the ships
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>>166884919
try not living in hi sec you stupid piece of worthless shit

LMAO

FUCKIGN WREKT SCRUB
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How do I sell all these blueprints that I get from exploration? I am sure most of them are worth fuck all, but some of them seem good.
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Where does one get fittings these days?
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>>166885392
chill out my dude, just trying missioning instead of explo
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>>166885429
Contracts
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>>166885508
Single contract for each, or bundle them up?
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>>166884919
I try to skip those
there's a few missions where you don't even need to shoot them, don't remember which though
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Daily reminder if you're not doing level 5 missions for 700 million isk an hour you are a poorfag not worth mentioning. If you think you need an alliance to live in the pocket you're also retarded
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>>166884919

If you care about faction standings skip them. They do sorta drop give bounties in the form of the ships dropping dogtags. The dogtags can be sold to an opposing faction's navy corp for money. For instance a Caldari Navy Midshipman I dogtag will drop from a caldari navy mission frig and can be sold to a Federation Navy station for like 3500 isk.
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>>166885783
You're probably more likely to sell them off one-at-a-time unless you do a big discount for a bulk contract.
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>>166884919
PLEASE skip those, I started out eve by running missions and just accepted them. Then much later I wanted to do shit in other areas and couldnt fucking go anywhere or the faction police would get me. Took like a month of lvl1 and lvl2 missions and Diplomacy V before I finally got them to just above being a criminal
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>geckos
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>>166887504
damn i forgot about geckos. I should invest in a few. I used to love killin shit with them in under 5 seconds. A bitch to replace though, since im space poor.
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Antipharmakon Aeolis
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>>166873173
>Started playing last month
>Makes enough money to plex AND buy skill injectors
>This game doesn't hand things to you
>Everyone else is too incompetent

I don't think I'm going to to wait for your expansion pack. I'll just hold on until Shit That Never Happened 2 comes out.
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>>166890174
>replying to pasta
That aside I dont think its impossible to buy a plex and 1 or 2 injectors within the first month as long as you're a neet.
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>>166890451
Well...fuckin...touche.
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>>166885481
>Where does one get fittings these days?
o smium
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>>166872640
But the 3-4 months do SUCK. I bought my 3 months block of time and I think I been on for about 6-7 days doing nothing. Made about 130-200-400 million isk, and trained my way to fly an Orca cause my friend has one he said I could fly when hes not around hes a 3 year or so EvE vet.
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>>166887504
are you a horde guy?
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>>166890908
whats the point of an orca these days?
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How important is ship agility? I'm just finishing off the velocity skill to V but I would really like to keep agility at IV for now. I'm just a bit sick of support skills etc and would like to get my T2 blasters
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>>166892242
It has a slight effect on things like your ship's ability to keep a tight orbit but, in general, its main use is to lower align time, so unless going from IV to V would lower your align time by a tick (e.g. making your align time go from 10.2 seconds to 9.8 seconds, which would actually be going from 11 seconds to 10 seconds) it won't have a huge impact.
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>>166884835
yeah...cause you start to min/max frigates after you are done with cruisers and by that time you have a lot of ISK and skills built up so of course you are going to have nice stuff.

If you wanna fly t1 frigs in PvP do it in a gang or fleet.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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oneiros
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ded
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>see /dog/ dying
>abstain from bumping it
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>>166892242
my belief is having all your support skills maxed out is a lot more valuable than t2 guns
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Best scanning ship?
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Interceptor
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>>166869875
It's not smartbombing concord. It's smartbombing players in high sec.
It summons concord per damage dealt, so it's some constant (~5) TIMES cycles you can pull off before concord show up TIMES players in range TIMES players smartbombing.

Smartbomb ganks tend to create a several hundred km radius cloud of concord ships.
Only seen it twice but yeah. Nothing all too interesting really, just a game quirk.
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>>166897283
Helios is the best I can find.
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Best smol shit to btfo HIC?
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>>166897883
small energy neutralizer
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So I'm in BNI, which is a great corp, learned a lot, had loads of fun and lel content.

But I'm getting sick of being the punching bag, we moved to CR and turns out EE back stabbed us, PH can't help us, PL and NC. are raping us just as usual, INIT are taking back what they lost to us, MOA have their own problems and can't help and the culture are drafting war plans to push our shit in.

Where do I go? Should I just join PH? Same climate but with daddys protection and stable space?
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>So I'm in BNI, which is a great corp
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>>166900562
said no one ever
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>traversing null in anything other than an interceptor
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>>166901680
>running ded, have intel multiple jumps away, they'd still have to probe me and jump multiple gates and that's if I didn't cloak
>whole time head is pounding, stick napkins under sweaty arms, and neck aches from being being so stiff and overly attentive to local
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>>166901680
>traverse it in a t1 explorer
>keep doing so for an hour or two every day after work
>bring back 2b
>no fucks given
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>>166902124
You joke, but this is how the average nullbaby actually feels.
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>>166902537
>tfw live in hisec and this is how I feel
fuckin' elite pvpers
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>>166902312
>be me
>attempt to do what you did
>get asswiped by random gatecampers despite intel and Evedotlan, PLH, Tripwire

count your fuckin' lucky stars m8
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>>166903613
Are you an alpha clone? Gate camps are generally pretty easy to get out of with cloak, unless they're smartbombing.
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>>166903737
Omega, currently training covops frigs and cloak, probably another week or two until I can fly a covops frig.

Occasionally, I get smartbombed, but I'll probably stay out of null until I can fly that sweet, sweet helios, so I don't get wiped by some faggot in a sabre.
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>>166903843
Even in a t1 exploration frigate with a t2 cloak if you go through a gate and end up bubbled in a gate camp you can typically make it out by double clicking in whichever direction has the least dense concentration of campers, immediately hitting your cloak and MWD, then slowboating it out of the bubble.
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>>166903971
Gotcha, thanks for the advice.
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>>166903613
it's not luck m8, just don't go for obvious routes
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>>166904342
I didn't.
It was through NPC null.
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>>166904410
that doesn't matter m8, you went where people are likely to go when crossing whatever region you were in

i hope it wasn't fucking stain by the way because then i'm about 10 times less surprised than i already am
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>>166902124
you should come to c4 wh bruh, after few t3c/maruder loses you won't give a shit anymore
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>>166875083
>got really lucky
>next day got average
>wtf guys
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>>166906946
>getting nothing for 5 hours is average for him
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>>166907074
>people got to the sites before me
>wah unfair
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>>166907074
>a site every 15 hours is not average
you must be born blessed by rnjesus
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>>166908224
you aren't supposed to explore in jita m8
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>Get exploded by a Svipul
>He then asks me to be his gf

Pirates are weird.
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>>166884835
I was flying a kite rail AB Atron and the other guy was flying a brawler waiting on top of the beacon in an FW plex. I warped in, overheated my AB and webbed the guy, then burned to my own optimal and held there until he ran out of tank.

Lowsec frigate PvP is especially easy now that they removed offgrid links and all the high-SP spergs lost their most crucial crutch.
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>kinda want to fly t3d
>jackdaw is the best but minmatar destroyers are better than caldari overall
>can't choose between getting the best t3d or getting the most out of racial destroyers skill
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How does cloak + drone assist work?
Are drones of the cloaked ship inert? Get disconnected on cloak? Or hostile action decloaks them?

Is over 9000 scan res ship assisted by big (think rattler/domi) drones (sentries?) viable for something like inwards gatecamps?
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>jackdaw is the best
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>>166910443
>jackdaw
>better than svipul
?????????????????????????????
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>>166912434
>>166914681
>2017
>people still think svipul is the best
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>T3D shitters unironically not killing themselves
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>faggots unable to kill t3ds
lol
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T3 was a mistake.
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Tech 4 when?
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When are we going to get T3 BS?
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Pirate ships were a mistake.
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BC relevant when
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Ultra Caps when?
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Theres no real news or events from December to this date? Whats the general consensus since last winter when null babbies were saying game is dead and PLEX went to 1,2b?
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>>166917976
CCP delayed drilling platforms to fall 2017 :^)
>muh sandbox
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>>166917839

720mm hurricane and 250mm ferox have been relevant even before the range buff
.
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>>166917839
Bc's are more useful now that they have clear differences and advantages over cruisers

but their price is still way too much for what they do, similar to battleships in a way
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hourly reminder that the reason the things you like are useless is because of overpowered T3Cs, logis, HACs and pirate cruisers
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>>166919843
Logi's already got a huge nerf, no more 60km guardians and stuff

And this has little to do with t3C's in this respect, neither ahacs
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>>166919843
>wah they brought healers and I didn't
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>logi
>huge nerf

lmao
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>>166919986

the only logi that got significantly nerfed were the frig logi.

no more 30 km reps, they have to be just about in brawl range.

meanwhile overtanked t1 cruiser logi with small reps can maintain their 50km
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>>166920214
>raw optimal replaced with swathes of falloff
>logi forced to stay within 30km for Max reps instead of the old 60km reps
>not a huge nerf

Logi are fine, there are tons of ways to cripple logi, stop whining faggot
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>>166920568
but that's wrong. stop being retarded faggot
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>>166920530
>meanwhile overtanked t1 cruiser logi with small reps can maintain their 50km
No they fucking can't, only the medium reps get out to 50km like that and even still they don't rep for anywhere near max amount

>>166920630
Thats 100% correct faggot do you even fly logi? Guardian reps only have optimal out to 30km
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>>166920702
>only 30km

that's a long way. and they still rep far too much, have crazy good sig and shit, and are stupid resistant to neuts
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>>166920702
>only the medium reps get out to 50km like that

lol no.

small reps and medium reps have nearly the same base range, it's the hull of the ship that gets the range bonus.

have you even flew a logi since the reps were reworked?
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>>166920762
>that's a long way.
No its not, it's way better than the previous way which was 60km

>good sig
No better than other cruisers stupid

>stupid resistant to neuts

There are other ewar out there you dumb fuck, ever try brining jams or damps? Ever try tactics like rapidly switching targets or raw alpha?
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>>166920994
>No its not, it's way better than the previous way which was 60km

it is a long way faggot. that's not distance from the enemy fleet, that's distance behind your fleet

>No better than other cruisers stupid

kys retard

>There are other ewar out there you dumb fuck, ever try brining jams or damps?

wow good point, them being basically immune to neuts is fine because they aren't immune to other ewar

>Ever try tactics like rapidly switching targets or raw alpha?

tacics like being in a massive nullblob fleet? some fights aren't that big
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>>166919745
>what is insurance
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>>166919745
Battleships are great, you get 80% of the cost back from insurance.
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>>166921414

don't forget the 30% of that is lost in paying for the insurance.
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>>166921414
if you don't fit any modules

and this is the same for all t1 ships bro
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>>166921626
They're still half the price of what you pay for them on the market.

>>166921657
Modules on a T2 fit battleship are like 10% of hull cost, if not less.
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>>166921770

the gun on a mega alone will cost you almost 30 mil.
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>>166921230
>it is a long way faggot. that's not distance from the enemy fleet, that's distance behind your fleet
So you're a shitter and you're getting kited and the enemy is forming for their optimal at their peak capacity, congrats you're dead because you can't hold the field and manage it.

>kys retard
sorry you said blatantly false shit

>basically immune to neuts
except they aren't

so you think because neuts aren't the best tool that you can't use the others? Jams and damps are extremely effective.

>tacics like being in a massive nullblob fleet? some fights aren't that big
Then fucking cry about it, you're getting out played shitter
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>>166921954
>because you can't hold the field and manage it

more like because of the cancerous range creep in eve, with silly speed tanking aids healsluts that have 50km on top of whatever bullshit range your combat ships have

>sorry you said blatantly false shit

just kill yourself, you're wrong. go look up the numbers then kys

>except they aren't

it takes what, 2 medium neuts to fuck up a normal cruiser that uses cap? a guardian or basilisk you need like 10

>so you think because neuts aren't the best tool that you can't use the others? Jams and damps are extremely effective.

I already explained that you're fucking retarded if you think it's ok for them to be highly resistant to neuts for no reason. damps and jams can be sensor boosted and are situational. 1 sebo per guardian + 1 remote will cover you pretty well. if you stay fairly close you cannot be range damped, and if you aren't flying in a blob you cannot be scan res damped

kys
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>>166920865
small rep on a max skilled augorer is 44.5km + 15.9km

the medium rep on the same aug is 55.6+15.9

the smalls rep half the amount of the mediums
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>>166922324
>more like because of the cancerous range creep in eve
You're fucking retarded, the optimal is no where near what it was for armor and shield, it was a heavy nerf

>you need like 10 medium neuts
well 10 medium neuts is only 2000gj which is more than an aug even has, more like 5

one up one down on an aug (or guardian) gives it +150gj/s and 5 neuts will easily cap it out.

5 neuts out of anything, a combination of ships, if its an ashimmu its only like 3

5 medium neuts is less effective than 2 heavy neuts. It would easily work with 2 heavy neuts.

Then again any other relevant ewar will work. Why are you so insistant on using shit that isn't very effective. Damps and jams cripple logi you dumb shit.

>they're resistant to neuts so I can't use damps or jams
you're fucking retarded

>if you stay close they can't be damped
scan res damp you dumb fuck, stop then from locking on quickl;y
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>>166922996
>You're fucking retarded, the optimal is no where near what it was for armor and shield, it was a heavy nerf

yeah it was a slight nerf to only one of the ship's attributes. and at approximately the same time they made deadspace medium reps so you can make even more cancerous fits

>Why are you so insistant on using shit that isn't very effective

how dumb are you? we're having a conversation, and all I'm saying it's dumb that they're so resistant to neuts

>Damps and jams cripple logi

they cripple everything, this is not a specific weakness or counter for logi. and learn to use sebos you retarded nullshitter

>you're fucking retarded

so you failed to read, and now you think I'm dumb because the thing you read incorrectly doesn't make sense

>scan res damp you dumb fuck

I said they can't be range damped, shitler. scan res damps are usually the better choice sure, but they will be boosted loads and it won't do much
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>neuts
>cap
>amarr
>mfw
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>>166924495
grab the khanid skin alrady pleb.
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>>166926354
>using a worse version of the cold iron skin
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>tfw they all get baited
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>Ping for fleet goes out
>Get in comms
>150 people in fleet
>FC "DO NOT UNDOCK"
>Wait a couple minutes
>"What the FUCK"
>Oh no fc is mad
>"Three retards just bridged into their death"
>"Get the fuck out of my fleet right now"
>Wait a few more minutes
>"Okay everyone undock now"
>Waiting on top of titan
>Try to focus camera and zoom in on titan because it looks cool
>Screen goes black
>EVE.eve has stopped responding
>"BRIDGE BRIDGE BRIDGE"
>"REPS ON X"
>"PRIMARY IS Y"
>I reopen client
>Bridge is down
>Log off and leave mumble

What a fucking shitshow
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>>166928546
is pupper like this?
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>>166928998
>150 person fleet

I dont think so anon
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>>166928998
>titan on grid
>implying pupper can afford anything above 500m
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>/dog/ on page 10
>contemplating not bumping it
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Weapon Tiercide
F.
U.
C.
K.
I.
N.
G.
WHEN.
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>>166928546
I know who you are.
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>Paps
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>tfw fuck paps
>just flying homedefense
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proteii
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>>166933161
Who am I anon? What was the fleet composition?
>>
omen
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>>166928998
Pupper does small gang PvP friend, join House of Pups channel 2learn more
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Okay so BRAVE is officially dying. PL turned on plow mode and is fucking us up.

Give me a corp to join. Should I go full on grr?
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>>166938190
Horde or TEST
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>>166938443
See, that's what PL wants BRAVE to do. Join Horde, boost their ranks.

Rather join leddit than horde
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>>166938519
Brand Newbies is a newbro corp in TEST, the invasion of the south is just popping off so there is a lot of content for you if you join them. If you can get past the leddit memeshit then you can have a pretty good time flying with them.
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>>166938893
I'm debating my options and I'm seriously considering dreddit or Brand Newbies. I'm not a complete noob, 4mil SP with T2 in cruiser skills. I want content but also stablity. But when an alcoholic PL follows BNI from region to region, it's really demoralizing
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Just join goons (except karma, they are retarded)
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>>166939097
Dreddit is larger and I think they still need 15m SP or an active reddit account, BN doesn't really have any requirements and is smaller so you can make friends and get to know people easier if you wanted to. If you join any group in TEST you will have access to almost all of their fleets, it doesn't really matter what corp you are in specificity in that regard. What's your name if you are cool with saying it on here? We can chat in game about it if you wanted (Im in Brand Newbies myself)
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>>166939535
Just checked, need a reddit account or 15mil SP so yeah, Brand Newbies it would be. I rather not, no offense but would hate to get doxxed from here. But thanks for the info, if I do join, I'll subtly hint and maybe chat with you in the corp channel!
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>>166901680
>cloaky T3C
>no one bothers fucking with you
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>>166940473
If you do join, send me a mail at Emily Madus
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>tfw getting blobbed hard
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>>166943647
>blob
>hard
then it's not a blob
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CHANNEL ZARVOX
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honestly as much as i play the game and the amount of time i have invested in the game i cant in good heart reccomend it to new players or friends. I just see to many trends in the devs following a path that led to me retiring from WoW coupled with decisions that ignore the vetran players and attempt to sucker new ones in. Right now it takes 1-2 years before new players get a steady grasp of the game and get on thier own feet comfortably. Coupled with the fact that aside from bumbling around like a casual you cant realistically play this game with one account. And if you want to do industry, forget it, your talking 4-5 accounts.
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>eos
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>>166944705
listen bud I made enough money in month to get plex and 2 skill injectors by exploring and I'm not even a vet, I literally started playing last month. AND I had time to join a low sec corp and roam around killing stuff and exploding. No, I don't play 24/7. You are just incompetent. I bet you never achieved anything worthwhile in your life and thought you can do something in Eve, but this game won't just handle everything to you on a silver platter like WoW. If you don't even enjoy this game why are you trying to play it? Nothing will change if you get a BS or a carrier. Just leave and go fap and cry yourself to sleep. All the possibilities to do something with your life are gone. You will not find redemption in this game. Accept you are a failure and continue leeching. Or admit you lost at life and kill yourself, this would would be better without you.
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I wanna leave my current alliance and join something new but not really sure who I should join. I like doing strategic fleet fights the most. Was thinking about maybe joining Horde since I am still relatively low SP.
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>Horde
>strategic
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>>166946986
Horde doesn't even have SRP, join Co2
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>>166947690
then who would you join. i am all for the smack talk but give some options at least.
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>>166947809
I plex every month using ISK so i don't fly expensive stuff for pvp, so not having SRP isnt a huge deal breaker.
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>>166947840
Join EE ;^)

I heard they are doing great in high sec
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>not tengoo
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2ez
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Is ninja salvaging in null a thing?
Always wanted to give it a try.
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>>166951063
generally no because people try to kill you whenever you're in their space
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>>166951063
Someone will kill you even if he has to wait 2 hours to get that kill.
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>>166951432
Can confirm, I have waited four hours to kill a salvaging catalyst.
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>tfw jumping into someone's ratting anomaly and watching him rage in local
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>>166953905
>Jump into deadend system
>10 in local
>Gate is bubblefucked
>4 Rorquals on scan
>Cloak up in safe and afk
>Come back 30min later
>Two people have tried to convo me
>3 people have asked what the fuck I am doing in local
>1 person other than me left in system

These niggas too ez
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>>166954281
>not demanding to get paid to leave
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that one fuckwit that thinks anyone is impressed by his chestbeating about eve on an Indonesian shadow-puppet board
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panic nerf when
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PANIC for all caps when
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>>166958228
>>166958408
>panic
what is this
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>>166959470
Literal invulnerability module
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how does one go about making qt characters?
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>>166960564
>big titties
>no clothes
>angle it so you can see big titties and sexy body
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>join nullsec alliance
>there's always a strat op or some roamers we need to kill
>spend pretty much all my time in fleets
>can't even insure my ships most of the time because :citadels: and :reshipping:
>SRP covers parts of the losses but is never enough and can take weeks to arrive
>corp expects me to train up both a FAX and a dread alt
>corp also wants me to have a suitcase carrier and a JF
>corp doesn't set individual alts blue so you really need 2 JF chars if you want to make Isk importing stuff
>corp wants me to have 5b Isk in my wallet at all times
>corp commissars people for multiboxing during fleets
>when I try to rat in my Rattlesnake carrier autists tell me to fuck off
>VNI ratting makes less than grinding lvl4s in high sec
>don't know how to run DED complexes and people guard the setups they use to do them like it's their first born
>don't have a dedicated scanning alt so I can't even sell bookmarks
So how do you actually make Isk in nullsec? We're always at war or moving or deploying somewhere, I'm always barely breaking even and at this rate I'll never be able to afford injectors or plex for additional accounts.
I made more Isk when I lived in lowsec.

Is nullsec just a scam?
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>>166960564
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>>166961898
dude that is some really demanding stuff. I would imagine you have the skill set to make some really dank isk if they are asking for all that.
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>>166961898
Join a better alliance.
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>>166961898
lmao what alliance
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>>166961898

Sold an escalation today for 90mil, ez money

On a normal day I make about 20mil
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>>166961898
join a less shitty alliance
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>>166961898
Drop corp
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>HS incursion running is starting to wear thin on me
>feel like I need a change of venue

Is NPC Null an okay place to live/make isk?
>>
>mfw tried eve online multiple times, a few separate paid accounts over the years (as the game keeps going on dirt cheap sale and I forget old accounts)
>only interested in drone boats and mining
>find PvP too stressful in most games
>find mining relaxing
>eventually quit as mining alone in high/midsec is not engaging
I love the style, world, and idea of Eve but I can't stick with it since the thing I like most is comfy as hell but hard to keep me interested. And it's a pain to train both a miner and drone boat (at least over the years I've tried it).

Guess I'll just keep looking in on the game and enjoy the stories.
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>>166962428
I've only got 2 accounts, a 50m SP subcap main and another I started in december. Everyone else seems to have either a gazillion PI or SP farming alts, a ratting super or deep pockets and multiple JFs.

>>166962497
I'm part of stain fraggin coalition. Don't want to get into details because I'm pretty sure my ceo posts here.

>>166962617
I make a couple mil here and there but I don't have the time to rat for 30 hours a week.
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>>166961898
You right-click warp to on your journal for the DED. I too thought you had to scan it down, I was in my heron. Made 100m selling it.
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>Tempest
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>dominix
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is a gud brawler>>166965753
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I want to biomass myself irl
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>>166967042
Give me your account first.
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>JF guy is out on a roam enjoying himself instead of delivering my fucking ammo
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>>166967954
Just fly Amarr, bro. No need to worry about ammo then.
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/59591951/

Leaving SNUFF was a mistake..

>90% of OPS begin with 'SC/NC want us to'
>SRP unavailable/we can't afford to fully reimburse
>We are gonna kick INIT out of NPC null somehow
>We are abandoning our campaign against INIT to get SNUFF's moons while they are away getting content, we have NC protecting us
>Get our shit kicked in
>DING! DING! DING! WE NEED THIS PLEBBIT THREAD DOWNVOTED AND DELETED!
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>>166970094
how do people afford to do shit without SRP? I make 100-150m/hr on my pve alt and anything not covered by srp over 20m I have to sleep on it to see if I change my mind in the morning.
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>>166970094
>EE
I'm sorry. You could just leave though.
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>>166971881
bruh i am a jew in this game but if you cant even bare to spend 1 ratting tick worth of isk on a disposable pvp ship idk what to say.
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>pvp
>any year
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>>166970094
why would anyone join any of these sitting in station cuck alliances

>muh slaves
>muh cynos

why even log in
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>>166972527
buy our fitted ships and go defend my space, stupid goy
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>>166972527
>just 3b
>>
>facebook imagelink in the background
biomass
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Is Yacht rolling still possible?
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>>166972527
>play eve since 2011
>10% isk efficiency
>in dronelands right now
>think 3 billion is a lot
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>>166973559
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Brave is getting shit on.

I can rat in null, explore comfortably in null/low/WH, and have never ever done any pvp. I want to start pvp'ing and work up to learning to fly a t3 destroyer (already skilled for it nearly lvl V everything).

Given that brave is getting hamered into oblivion, where should I turn. Can someone give a quick rundown of the big nulsec corps? I'm not looking for SRP or anything to pay my way, I'll make my own money. I just want to meet some people, learn to pvp, and have fun blowing up ships.
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>>166973829
Join Horde :^)
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>>166973136
pls respond
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>>166973829
goons (exept karma), the rest is just reddit trash or irrelevant
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>>166973136
>rolling in a ship that doesnt nothing but cloak

how even and why?
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>>166973829
>I'm not looking for SRP or anything to pay my way, I'll make my own money. I just want to meet some people, learn to pvp, and have fun blowing up ships
horde, but stay the fuck away from standing fleet comms and chat
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>>166974416
You don't know about Yacht rolling? Then don't bother responding, fuccboi.
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>>166974485
what even is this yacht rolling
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>>166973829
dude this is nothing compared to the last few months in Fade. "Leadership" were complete shit invading cloud ring and line members did better then they did so I dont blame you for wanting to leave for something better. There is some good fc's and people you can still fly with in the mean time and can say fuck the rest.
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>>166974524
It's rolling, but in a yacht.
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>>166974524
>put higgs on a yacht
>go in and out of wh with mwd on
>repeat until it collapses
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>mfw watch guys warp to a gate despite it being yelled 100 times in comms and fleet chat that a camp was there
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>>166974630
Honestly I always feel lost when I log on. I ask questions and they get answered but I have no idea where I should be going, what I should be flying, or what half the shit they're talking about is. When I first joined up became friends with 1 guy out of countless I tried talking to and he doesn't even log anymore.
I just want to learn to pvp and find a group of people to fly around and have fun with. Seems like it would be easier to do without 200+ fleets always breathing down our necks, especially when I have no idea what the fuck is going on
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>>166974897
>when you don't know there's a gatecamp and get instascrammed
>when you have 4 WCS and are able to get away easily
>when you post mad bants in local
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>>166974991
join any fun fleets, roams, or classes that go out it should help quite a bit. (which are things other alliances do as well). usually smaller and the fc can take time and explain shit to you one on one.
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>>166975215
>Join a fun fleet

What should I fly, what should I be doing? The thing is I know a decent amount about solo play, I can explore safely and avoid camps, scan things down fast, and play the mini game well. I know about running missions, I can fly mining barges, and rat in a blinged out navy vexor.

But when you say just bring a frig or tackler or something I don't even know where to start. End goal for me is roaming in a Jackdaw which I already have trained and all support skills to 4/5, but I don't even know the first step.

/blog
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>>166975756
well fun fleets you can typically bring whatever you want. But if you are confused you should bring a doctrine fit. There are easy fits for t1 frigs and destroyers and such. There are tackle fits, ewar fits, and dps fits. DPS is probably the easiest to fly.
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I flew a bs for the first time today, never want to fly anything bigger than cruiser again
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>>166976059
This is how I felt the first time I flew a destroyer
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>>166976059
my favorite thing about getting into a carrier was being able to drift when warping
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>>166976198
t34lyf
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>>166976059
cruiser masterrace
>>
>tfw forced to put hyperspatials on every bs
>>
Why did no one tell me the Worm was this fun
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>>166978816
fun just means op, everyone told you it was op
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>>166963993
I fear this is my future, too.

Many feels.
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probe scanning is fucking cancerous.
how the fuck can people deal with them for years?
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>>166979007
the auto probe formation thing makes it easy as fuck

you used to have to move each probe manually
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>>166979007
because people do it in 2 or 3 sweeps per sig
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>first time leaving hisec
>got mwd and cloak ready
>get stuck on jumping animation
>socket closed
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>>166979007
because they aren't retarded
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>>166979649
>you're here forever
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>>166975756
You should message me Emily Madus (Not my main, just don't want to post that here) We can chat there if you want so we dont shit up /eog/. I am in a pretty similar position that you are in. Mainly have been doing exploration for the past couple months but just started getting into more pvp stuff. I've been on some fleets and have enjoyed it quite a bit. I just trained into my Sabre so we could set up some gatecamps together or something and it would be comfy.
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>>166980754
Either of you be down to rat as a duo in low or null sec?
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>salvaging
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>>166981327
>bottom feeding job that pays more than VNIs if you're lucky and keep getting sites
>>
>get 2 drone faction spawns (not sure what they're called, uncommon spawns that drop drone components)
>make 400m from a few lazy hours of work
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>>166981242
I am not really into ratting, sorry anon
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good goy, come rat with me, safety promis :))
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Is wingspann a meme? I really like covops shit but I don't want to join a dead corp again.
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>>166981917
I got myself a quiet area of spess but I can't take battleship rats efficiently, wanting to get a ratting partner for scouting and killing shit like clone rats faster
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>>166982587
Wingspan is full of shitters and is generally a meme, but I don't think they are a dead corp. I would just suggest joining any other biggish WH corp that isn't trash
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>>166982847
>biggish
>WH corp
>not trash
Choose one.
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any /vg/ griefing guilds?

i'd be starting from nothing but i played this game like 4 years ago (when it was actually good) but i know the game.
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>>166981654
dem drone coronary
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>>166981410
>in lowsec corp
>always 10+ salvagers in system at one time
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>>166983106
well yes, it's the only thing an alpha can do for quick dosh that's as efficient as omegas doing it
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>>166982942
What sort of griefing do you want to do, anon?
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>go to station where jump clone is located
>switch
>still get the cooldown
WTF I thought doing it that way was supposed to bypass the cooldown
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>>166979445

what is the secret? how to do it in 1?
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>>166985520
good skills for one thing
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>>166982587
I'd say wingspan is one step from elite hisec pvpers - so very much a meme.
But if you're interested in the gameplay of elite hisec pvp they are still a better choice than sitting in hisec popping pods.

>>166985465
You bypass the cooldown if you switch clones for ones in the same *citadel* as you are, not same station.

>>166985520
It is a mystery.
>>
my wh corp is quite dead, and I can't even farm our system because the sites "are for the corp" (if I mine, run sites... the profit is for the corp). We have "corp ships" and all that crap, but I feel that it sucks.
what do?
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>>166986673
How do your corpmates make any profit?
>>
>>166986673

If the corp is dead who's going to stop you from taking the sites?
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>>166986673
just clear them out then claim some savage hole rollers passed by and pillaged them when someone ask
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>>166986673
So glad I didn't join All-Out
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>>166987820
They have my API
>>166987592
It is dead, but not totally. The leaders are more or less active. And honestly, they are not bad people, I even met the CEO on RL.

>>166987146
Out of the system. The restriction policy only applies to our colony.

My point is: They are not taking money from me, after all, but it feels like I was playing solo. It is been days now since I last went to our system, since it feels like a waste of my time. I do better having my "base" on a comfy low-sec system.
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haha jackpot bitches
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>>166988901
Leave my nigga, EVE is a big game, no matter how crazy the CEOs ae they won't be able to do anything to you.

Its a game for you to have fun, not to be the slave cuck of a few faggots woth a superiority complex and space communism.
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>>166988901
Join Pupper for freedom of choices and voices
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>Want to do some confy roaming around.
>Evicted and decced by marmite.
life hurts
>>
Will this game make me a better person so I stop being a loser IRL?
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>>166991610
G A R M U R
A
R
M
U
R
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>>166978816
W O R M
O
R
M
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>>166995843
Yes. Can't you see the people in this thread?
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Can I play EVE on a toaster?
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>>166996896
download and try it
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>>166997024
How much disk space does it take? I have a fairly small SSD and it's already more cluttered than I prefer.
On the other hand I'm all about space yo.
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>>166997152
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>>166997152
Full download is ~17GB, but if you want to conserve space don't download everything.
The download-on-demand should make it <10GB for 90% use-cases. Most likely much less but I don't want to mislead you.

DOD is the default setting. Just install it normally and *DON'T* check "download everything" in the launcher.
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>>166997473
>*DON'T* check "download everything" in the launcher
Wow. Thanks, I almost made a mistake. I thought I'd save more space by downloading everything.
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>>166997597
can't tell if it's sarcasm or not
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>>166997597
Don't be so smug.

I'm preemptively telling you how to make sure you use download-on-demand, so I don't get a stupid question "how do I use DOD?" later.
My answer: it's on by default, and there's a checkbox in the launcher to turn it *OFF* (as opposed to on).

It's not a fucking guide on what not do to.
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>tfw been missing out shit loads of my PI income because I routed P1 products to the same storage where I store raw materials instead of routing them to another storage or the launcher pad
Holy hell so each planet can actually push 5m a day with PI skills at level 3 just from extracting and processing into P1.
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>>166998297
>5mil a day
What a terrible way to live life.
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>>166998474
muh passive incomes!
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What went wrong?
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Help me pick an eve corp.
Brave was great, until i realized within a day that pandemic retards just farms us constantly and the comms are literal aids.
PH is worse comms wise.
Karmafleet is hated by 4chan, and im guessing for a good reason.
Not sure if Im retarded for considering Blades Of Grass for le comfy nullbear, i just want to stay away from PL hotdrop o clock and NC. edgy cringelords... How is Co2 and Ascendance? I have about 18mil SP into le things and can fly most doctrines from brave, mainly like being a goyim and farming those rats but only for the purpose of being able to buy ships and go explode to gud fights and le gud content...

Help me find a le comfy home, based anons
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>>166982587
Depends what you think a meme is. Wingspan is full of professional torpedo delivery agents, not skilled fighters. Which is fine there's nothing wrong with that, I've actually considered joining them for some time since I dwelled wormholes for a long while. I don't regret joining this pirate corporation, but there are some tryhards and people who just rage for no reason. They also don't fly covert ops like I do. I say try out wingspan and see how you like it.
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>>167000241
Just join TEST. They're what brave was like 4 years ago. Goons aren't all that bad, their leadership has a bad rap and for good reason but the general membership are just your average autists.
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yfw the tackle lands
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>>167000623

Do you need to get involved with Something Awful and their culture to join the goons?
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>>167000741
Fuck if I know. I'm just basing that on my experience fighting them.
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>>167000741
no, those times are LONG gone
goons are still fags tho
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>>167000741
I dont think KarmaFleet requires SA... Even though you may be seen by mittins as pleb filth, i mean the space they have is pretty damn secure. but I have no experience in their comms or how they do things. All I know is they're hated by all
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Why doesn't 4chan have a significant corp or alliance in the game?
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>>167001098
Because 68 shitposters and memers don't make for a good corporation.
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>>167001084
desu i have no idea if the space is secure. just talking out my ass for a bit
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>>167001147

We need to recruit /pol/acks, /int/ellectuals...

Just imagine it, if we united forces.
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>some underage retard with dreams of 4chan corp again
please leave
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>>167001159
They focus heavily on pve but can form up if needed.

Honestly, to that guy who wants out of brave, just join dreddit or brand newbros. Even if you don't like the corp/alliance attitude, there are tons of sigs and smaller corps in the alliance that mainly do their own thing while still forming up to contribute when needed.
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>>167001256

wew

are you a /dog/poster too?
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even stunt knows goon is bad
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What is his endgame?
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>>167001427
Been thinking about it actually. Just do not know much about their current ops down in buttfuck southland
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>>167001098
two months ago you could have argued white stag was one

then we got:
>all-out kicking everyone
>oruze secluding themselves
>pupper emptying into all-out
>all-out good for a week then devolved into barely anyone playing and leaving for pupper
>pupper silently stealing players from all-out and moving to sov 0.0
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>>167001750
literally who
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>>167001853

But pupper has literally 7 members.

it is this corp, right? https://evewho.com/corp/Pupper+Appreciation+Station

Where do they live?
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>>167001963
here
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>>167001756
Test has been steamrolling their way through it. Little to no resistance.
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>contemplating bomber/torpedo nemesis for PVP
>potential to 1v1 BSs

how successful might it be? Or will i just get my shit wrecked?
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>>167003256
If you had a long point and an ab, in theory you could win, but if the bs has drones, local reps, or friends, you won't
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>>167003256
>what are drones?
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>>167003439
also if he has mwd he's faster than you so he can escape/kill you, and if he has mjd he can escape you. and all bs have at least enough bay for 5 lights. 1 heavy neut is gg too
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Just fit a smartbomb for his drones :^)
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>>167003692
If the bs pilot is retarded then.
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>>167003459
i could use 2 geckos and a garde, but my ship would still be vulnerable, and thats using my battleship. i dont want to be in a battleship facing another battleship. id be moving slow and that would give more time to his friends to show up.
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How hard is it to make ISK as an Industrialist?
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>>167004917
depends
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>>167005004

In the case of manufacturing, it seems like the cost of the materials always surpasses the price of the manufactured item.
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>>167005141
For T1 stuff, yes. Ammo and rigs can be profitable. T2 is worthwhile and people making supers are space rich.
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>>167005141
you probably need all V industrial skills and your own POS to really pull a profit. Most likely not worth it in High Sec. Lowsec maybe. And you wont own a pos for long in Null unless you own a pocket. But then you need a JF.
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>>167005574

And who is bothering to manufacture those T1 items? People with ridiculously high skills?
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Just hit 15M skill points the other day and I still don't know where I want to go it this game. I've looked at so many corps but none of them really feel right. Everything is either dead/ dying, has requirements I don't meet, is autistic as fuck, or is just another new player corp (I'm in Horde currently). What corps are you guys in? What do you like about it?
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>>167006132
I own a POS in J-space. And could setup one in low-sec I guess.

I am less enthusiastic about the JF. Very expensive, and risky to lose. Also cyno alts that I do not have.
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>>167006259
If you are in a corp with a presence is null you can move the goods to a central location and have them ship it to a trade hub. But of course that's just another expense cutting in to your profit.
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>>167005574
>got into t2 production
>always lose more money than I make because prices always tank after the third batch

every fucking time

guess I have to limit myself to 40 units or something before changing item
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>>167006256
join pupper
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>>167006256

Same situation here. Also
>20m SP minmatar main
>already using it far less than my 6m gallente alt
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>gallente
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>>167006256
i made my own corp. Nobody wants to join, so im all alone. Ive got friends, but they all ahve their own corps that they belong too.
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>>167007548
I don't think I'd want to make my own corp. Right now I feel like I have enough free time that I can contribute to a corp as a member, but a leadership position would be too much for me to handle. Not to mention that since I'm basically a no-name player, my corp would have basically zero chance of getting anywhere.
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>>167007548
it's basically impossible to start a new corp, unless you know a bunch of people in advance who are willing to join and keep it from being ded. all it takes is the corp being a little bit ded, then the people who don't like that will leave, and then it becomes more ded, and it just goes down the shitter and you can't keep anyone or recruit anyone
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A magic EVE fairy comes down an grants you all perfect skills on you're main account. However, you're now limited to flying only one race of ships. This limit is applied to all you're accounts, so no using another race on an alt. You also can't use pirate faction ships (unless you pick said pirate faction). You can still use any non-racial ships (ORE, Gnosis). Which do you choose?
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>>167008157
amarr not really lol
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>>167008154
Not to mention that recruiting is basically impossible. There are hundreds of literally-who corps out there and differentiating yours is incredibly difficult.
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>>167008157

Dunno lol
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>>167008503
Me neither hahah
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>>167008157
>you're main accout
>you're accounts
what did he mean by this?
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>>167008157
gallente probably

its a shit scenario though because of the no pirate ships

>>167008671
exactly what he wrote, he enver said you can't have more than one account
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>>167008671
wake up anon
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>>167008717
But I'm not an account?..
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>>167008853
you are now fuccboi
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>>167008157
Minmatar because autocannons are cool.
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>>167008952
Lasers are cooler.
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>>167008952
>>167009006
Both of those operate at high temperatures
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>>167008157
>>167008717
It is kinda shitty, but so is life. What if you could choose one pirate race along with you're main race, what would people pick?
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>>167009114
life is shitty in other ways
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>>167009114
>you're main race
You got that right.
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>>167008157

Gallente because we all know EVE is a game you don't actually play
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who minmatar here
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Daily reminder that if you're not doing level 5 missions you're making sub optimal isk
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>>167009404
literally no one
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>>167009404
How do you get this thing to do anything worthwhile?
>6 turret 2 launchers
lol
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>>167003256
ive done a lot of solo hound in delve. Every now and then you find some retard that will let you kill his battleship. But usually its just endless hauler kills.

Always try though because theres a good chance they are afk or too braindead to switch to right drones.
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>>167010823
and nemesis is garbage trash for idiots. Go with mse tank on purifier or hound instead of some memefit with all targetpainters and missile computers.
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>shield tanking your bomber
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>>167010710
it effectively has 12 turrets, while most battleships have 8-10. this is the fix they came up with to compensate for the fact that it's not a sanic coward range ship and it can't do megablob fag tanks
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>yfw your bomber dies to first volley from light drones
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>>167011602
this is what im afraid of. Im usually drones all the way, but i know how much they can fuck up someones day. I dont want to be lurkin with a frigate just to get raped by some hobgoblins.
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>>167011818
thats why 9 out 10 GPs reccomend fitting a mse so you can get in those last volleys needed to kill something or have time to leave when the damage is too high.
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How profitable is it to make P4 in nullsec (0% tax poco)? Is it better to import the P2/ P3 or should I make it all in null too?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKsQpBxymss
look at this pure being of power using the mwd and mse together to smash the hostile and evade his cowardly attempts at retaliation.
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On a scale of 1-10, how dead is brave going to be in the next few months?
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>>167013381
4
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>>167013381
theyre fucked
source: hordeling blapped by PL trying to help our tempblue bravebros move
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>>167013381
They're gonna get deep-dicked, but that's the Brave way. They'll probably survive in some form or another.
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I want to fly a Sabre well, what skills should i prioritize? Yes I am shit
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>>167015683
spend a few months getting your support skills up
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>I want to fly a Sabre
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>>167015683
>small turrets at 5
>gunnery still 4
wew
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>>167016060
:o(
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>station trading
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>>167015890
>Support skills
What did he mean by this? Don't all skills in eve support your ability to do something better?
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>>167017247
Not all of them
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>https://zkillboard.com/kill/59591724/
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>>167017247
skills that you don't actually require to fly something
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>>167017247
gunnery 5
motion prediction 5
sharpshooter 5
etc
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Where can I find one or two dudes to dick around with in high/low sec
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>>167008157
If I pick a pirate faction are the ship prices less retarded? Because if so probably Mordu's Legion. If not, Gallente.
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>>167020180
Tama, Uedama or Rancer
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>>167020180
I'll be your friend if you give me money
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>>167020516
what is that
>>
tsm v
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Memetic Algorithm Bank
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>>167023143
Feels good to be TSM V master race.
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>>167024042
I like CLG more
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i prefer auctionator
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>>167024626
me too
tsm is better for serious trading tho
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I don't even use guns.
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Oh look. Another one of those.
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>>167025432
nothing wrong with that
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>>167026057
They are flying simulated ships.
It costs 0.00 ISK to simulate.
It's effectively cheating.

There's everything wrong with that.
>>
is project discovery a meme?
>>
>buy venture blueprint thinking I can make some isk
>lowest sales price is 190,000
>total cost of the minerals alone is 251,271

wot

>>157026286
what's a simulated ship?
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>>167026469
It can make you a whopping 10m isk per hour if you dedicate a lot of time to it. Totally worth it.
>>
>>167026469

What did he mean by this?
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>>167026694
There are lots of retards out there who think that by mining their own materials "for free" and using them to manufacture shit they're making a decent profit, not even realizing that they'd likely make more money selling the materials, so prices for t1 ships get driven down below manufacturing cost.
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>>167026469
Do it while you're ratting and ERPing to maximize your ISK/hour.
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>>167026286
meme/10
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>>167026694
Ventures are broken market.

New players get a lot of them for free by completing tutorials, so some clever traders put buy orders there and rack a shitton of ships at quarter-half their material value.
They get exported and you get exactly this situation.
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>>167026694
It happens with a lot of T1 modules, they're traded for less money than what it takes to make them.

Wouldn't be surprised if you could buy them and reprocess them for more money
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o...o-oneiros?..
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>still no apocalypse nerf
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/eog/ NPSI fleet when
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Trying to figure out a good cruiser fit for pvp, mostly for shooting wh shitters popping into our space

[Moa, PvP]

Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script

250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Hornet II x3
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>>167032606
forgot to add, I'd like to keep the fit cost under 50m, 40m if possible so I can keep a few of them around without loosing out on too much if they pop
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>>167032606
If someone has already tackled whatever you're shooting at then that's fine, but if you're solo the consider something more brawly.
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>>167032606
>medium shield extender
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>>167032606
>mse

lse is the only acceptable extender on a cruiser. I'd get a cap booster instead of the tc
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>>167032606
try this instead
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>blaster
>caldari

Reported
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>>167035439
go a head, use rails with your retarded moa
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>>167035520
rails are better than blasters shitter, especially on a moa
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>>167035802
The moa is slow and won't be able to kite with them effectively, the thorax is a better rail ship comparatively. The moa is like a maller, its built to brawl
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>>167035951
rails don't mean you have to go fast. and pls self destruct any pulse mallers you own
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>>167036065
>rails don't mean you have to go fast
kiting relies on range and speed, speed to hold range, and range to reduce transversal so your rails apply
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>>167036119
you said kiting not me
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>>167036181
Yes I know that what the fuck are you even arguing.
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>>167036219
I'm arguing that your dumb
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>>167036338
says the idiot who thinks the slow ass moa will be able to keep range so that his rails apply

protip they fucking won't. Rail moas are only moderately "good" in fleet concepts but get shit on by anything else
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>>167032606
fly RLM Caracal instead
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>>167036869
This, a HAM caracal will do decent dps to other cruisers at 30km
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>>167036493
going fast is not a long range thing. everyone wants to go fast

I thought this moa was for gangs, if it's not then I'll kys. If it's for solo then there's no good fit
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>>167037214
>going fast is not a long range thing.
Its pretty much required to MAINTAIN long range

You can't operate at moderate or close range, you NEED to hold range to maintain proper application.

>I thought moa's were good for gangs
the original person asking for a fit is going solo

The moa works better as a solo ship with blasters since it excels at brawling due to its shield resists.

The thorax being naturally faster and more agile is a better long range ship especially when it gets a significant tracking bonus so it can get better application at longer range
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>>167037475
the thorax is better at everything when we're talking solo. the moa likes to do gangs because it can buffer tank more. it's not really suitable for trying to get right up on shit, and it dislikes neuts more
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>>167037826
>the thorax is better at everything when we're talking solo
except brawling, the moa will eat the thorax in a blaster brawl because the moa tanks so much better due to its shield resists
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>>167037867
too slow, no slots for cap boosting, no application, which you need loads solo, especially with >blasters
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>>167037826
>and it dislikes neuts more
dude they have the same number of guns, they take the same cap to run
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>>167038025
>no slots for cap boosting
why would you cap boost in a brawl? your guns don't use that much cap and guns+ AB don't cap you out at all, its stable.

>you need cap booster to run blasters
this isn't a maller stupid
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>>167038060
one has the slots for a cap booster while brawling, one does not, and also uses invulns and has less capless dps

>>167038151
>ab

I thought we were talking about good fits
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>>167038235
>one has the slots for a cap booster while brawling
WHY DO YOU NEED A CAP BOOSTER?

>>167038235
>I thought we were talking about good fits
ITS A BRAWL

You dumb fuck, your MWD will be fucking off, you don't need to permarun it you last over 2 minutes constantly running it

You don't need a cap booster for either of these ships
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>>167038409
>solo ab blaster moa pilot mocking me
>mfw

If you are solo in a thorax you will have a cap booster so you can tank. if you brawl with blasters and no booster you are comically weak to neuts, even if buffer tanked
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>>167038717
>you will have a cap booster
FOR WHAT?
>so you can tank
oh so I'm active tanking now? I was just gonna run a dual prop, 1600mm plated fit
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>>167038717
>if you brawl with blasters and no booster you are comically weak to neuts, even if buffer tanked
so this thorax has neuts now?
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>>167038932
kys retard. you don't compare haulers by 1v1ing them, you shouldn't do it with combat ships either
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TIL when your omega lapses you can still train skill at omega level for several days as long as you don't login. Logging in will immediately stop the skill training.
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>>167039238
You're a fucking retard who thinks you need to permarun a MWD in a brawl where its disabled
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>>167039416
No I don't retard. your shitty nocap fits will literally die to a rupture

>dual prop

Another thing a moa will never be able to do
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>>167039598
>No I don't retard. your shitty nocap fits will literally die to a rupture
>rupture
>one small/medium neut
won't do jack shit to me. You're fucking retarded, the rupture has no fucking tank in comparison.

>another thing the moa won't be able to do
so fucking what? Its a feature of certain armor ships. That thorax doesn't have dick for tank or DPS
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>>167039329
so set jump drive operation V and go on a vacation?
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>>167039598
>one small neut projected onto a moa with blasters, an invuln and a scram
>4m2s
>medium neut
>2m12s
thats more thank long enough to engage and kill a fucking rupture, that rupture does dick for DPS and has no tank
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>>167040045
can someone verify?
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>>167040187
its about 3 days
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>>167039808
Being competent in scram range is feature of the thorax, yes. blasters on caldari =kys
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>>167037214
it's for "oh shit there's a neut and we got our shit together enough for a small gang to go hunt them down"
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>>167040618
>Being competent in scram range is feature of the thorax, yes. blasters on caldari =kys
SAME NUMBER OF GUNS, SAME BONUS, SAME DPS
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>>167040621
great, go with the rails then

>>167040131
Implying you start from full cap
Implying you apply damage with your no control and cuckdari speed
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>>167040770
>Implying you start from full cap
its pretty likely, you don't use a lot of cap when warping around when you don't have the mass of an amarr ship with plates
>implying other shit because I'm grasping at straws because I'm a retard projecting nonsense because I can't fit a ship to save my life

>dude you NEED a cap booster to permarun your MWD
>even though you're probably scrammed and it doesn't work
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>>167040705
There are other characteristics that matter. Get good.
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>>167040881
>other characteristics that affect the DPS
>doesn't name ANY of them

same range, same DPS, same engagement profile, same bonus same number of guns
you're retarded
>>
>>
>>167040967
>different mobility
>different cap warfare vulnerability
>different number of mids to spend on shit
>different application
>>
>no point
>no web
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>>167041097
Drop invuln and tc for small cap booster and point
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>>167041169
>>different mobility
its brawl range with blasters that have the highest tracking in the game, you have NO problem applying to cruisers
>different cap vulnerability
no they're virtually the same, same guns, same cap usage.
>different number of mids to spend on shit
the moa out tanks the thorax in everyway thanks to its shield resist bonus
>different application
the tracking bonus barely helps at this range
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>>167041179
>>167041297
>point/web when fleet has dedicated tackler
>>
>discussion about blaster in scramrange
>le fleet guise xdd
>>
>flying solo
>kitchen sink fleet
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>>167041372
blasters are the most likely weapon to completely crap out on tracking. yeah they have the most, but considering their range it's pretty bad
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>>167041705
>blasters are the most likely weapon to completely crap out on tracking.
What the fuck does this even mean? They have the highest

>range
It's brawl range dude
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>>167041845
because you're often approaching at speed and end up doing no damage for ages sometimes
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>>167042413
That has nothing to do with tracking
>doing no damage for ages
why are you firing your guns if you aren't in range yet?
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>>167042484
You're in range but you're flying past the target real fast. it can take time to is down and get your transversal right
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>>167043610
thats your fault for overshooting then
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>>167043749
The point is it's very easy to do this with blasters
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>like my corp but can't figure out why i don't fit in
>slowly becomes more apparent over time
>can't say gay or faggot on comms without someone having a mental break down
>not allowed to trash talk (except when it suits the people in power)
>despite not being a reddit corp pretty much all the key people are fucking obsessed with it
>i stay away from all political discussions but they are the stereotypical trump is literally hitler and some people fucking cry if you even meme about anything that could even be vaguely interpreted as pro trump
>find the personal blog of one of the key members, its some antigun cuckold who literally had his family's firearms destroyed

personally i don't care what you do outside of game but these people let it leech in to game to a major fault.
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>>167044179
Then gitgud and stop being bad. You know it happens you have the ability to stop it from happening
>>
>>167044472
Yeah the guy flying high speed fragile brawlers needs to get good lol
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>>167044795
You're a fucking retard and you're sidestepping because you're out of reasons why you're shit
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>>167045154
you're shit
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>>167044206
>its some antigun cuckold who literally had his family's firearms destroyed

if you really like it there's nothing you can really do except bitch about how everyone is bringing IRL things into a video game
if you don't like it that much just leave
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>>167046082
That's what I meant by my image. Got my stuff being couriered out and the rest liquidated locally. Should be in a new corp in like 2-3 days.
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>tfw tempted to rejoin with my two accounts.

Can someone explain to an idiot what the big mining overhaul was?

I've got basically a perfect miner with skiff and/or mackinaw, and an orca that I used to use to boost.

But havn't played in like 6-9months. Please spoonfeed me helpful anons, tempted to rejoin. What changed?
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>>167047032
there are engineering citadels now. and a capital mining ship.
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>>167044206
>had his families firearms destroyed

Day of the rope when.
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>>167047032
An Orca now mines as much as a max yield Macki while having 400k EHP and being able to boost the rest of the fleet.

Rorquals are like locusts destroying NS belts.
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>>167047032
>I've got basically a perfect miner with skiff and/or mackinaw, and an orca that I used to use to boost.
Come back in next year so you have enough skills to fly a mining cap.
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>>167047340
is this just with mining drones?
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>>167047193
>>167047340
>>167047342

So tempted to rejoin, but both accounts is an investment. Especially as all I plan to do is lazymine and chatbox simulator, no time/motivation to get back into pvp/null sec and all that shenanigans.

Don't like how I'm basically dependant on both my accounts now, before it was just a bonus.
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>>167047470
Yes.

An Orca with two T2 drone mining rigs and T2 drones mines 73k m3/hr
A Rorqual with two T2 drone mining rigs and Excavator drones + Indy Core mines 1.5 million m3/hr
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>>167047618

Fuck it, I'm installing now. I have until it is installed to make a decision.
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>>167047778
>nearly 9 billion isk for just the drones+rigs+indy core
holy fuck
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>>167048387
super high demand
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Yo
do you people warp cloaked, even if there's no one in system?
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>>167047618
I been trying to find some dudes that like highsec lazymine and chatbox simulation if you down for that
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>>167049428
yes
just in case someone pops in
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I would like to start learning pvp by doing FW for gallente. I'll be flying a Tristan and I'm not sure if I should fit as a kiter or brawler. Atm I'm inclined toward kiting as pretty much all my combat sp is in drones and I feel like it will get the most use out of that.

Your thoughts?
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>>167049542
>orbit 7k MWD on
>go to sleep
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>>167049542
Either is fine. Kiting is gay obviously though. You can kite without shield tanking btw
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>>167049542
FW pvp is its own style of gameplay all to itself just fyi. so dont judge pvp in general based on your experiences with it.
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>>167049616

Did you mean 17?

>>167049638

Yeah I was just looking at the eve uni fits. Do you think I should go for mwd + extender or an oversize AB?
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>>167049935
Not the anons you're quoting but I have some experience flying kiting Tristans and, while I can't comment on using an oversized AB, I had good success with an MWD, an MSE, and a Disrupter. I orbitted at 15k with the MWD and rupter on and just let the drones whittle the target down. It mostly only works on things without much tank/rep as your dps is low and, if they can survive your drones for a while, they can kill all 8 of them before you can get through their tank, but in this case you can likely just disengage.
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>Someone's using the glacial skin instead of purity or cold iron
why though
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When drone mining with an Orca do your mining foreman command bursts affect your drones?
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>Apply to a bunch of null newbro corps when I first start
>Join Brave
>Ignore other apps
>Rejected from dreddit for not replying
>Apparently now locked from applying to any TEST corp

T-t-t-thanks guys, not like I wanted to try something new once in a while...
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>>167052575
>be dumb
>complain about being dumb later
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>>167052659
>Be entirely new to the game
>Go through overly complicated process to try and find a group to learn and have fun with
>Get ignored for a week and join another group first
>Dumb

Ok, sure thing.Great intro to the game faggot
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hot damn, there are stations that repair your ship when you get near them
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>>167049935
Oversized ab is dumb. You could try a DC + hull rigs tank, it frees up a midslot for a tracking disruptor or damp, or maybe a cap booster and some neuts in the highs
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Just rejoined anon here. Both my characters that could previously fly Orcas, now cannot. And it's like 10 days away.

What the dicks. Should I not be reimbursed or something? Slightly peeved I can no longer fly a ship I used to be able to, not the end of the world but still.
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>>167053668

I may have just been talking out of my arse and made a mistake, sorry /eog/,

Other question though, I'm dropping my ore off in a public refinery EC station type thing. Any danger with that in high sec?
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>>167053883
If you're referring to a citadel, then not really. The owners can lock you out of the citadel but if they do your assets located in it will go into asset safety and you'll be able to move them to an NPC station after 5 days.
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>>167052575
>>167052974
That shouldn't be a permanent thing. No one in TEST is going to be buttmad at you for what you did
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>>167053883
>mining in high sec
For your own sanity, dont do it.
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>accidentally hit undock
>rush to hit cancel
>I just imagined hitting it
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>>167052974
Go and cry in their reddit. Be dumb there.
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>>167054420
Sent a message through eve, through the eve hr channel, through the auth services, and through reddit. Haven't heard back from a single person and now I'm stuck looking through goons for something that will fit. I don't know if it's being buttmad so much as being oblivious to what has happened
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>>167055335
Send an evemail to Ella Ronuken and I can try to get you sorted out. There is a lot of stuff going on at the moment so you may have just fallen through the cracks.
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>>167001647
>Anime Master
What a faggot.
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>>167044206
My corp is full of libtards too. I just vent on 4chan about it later.
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Post yfw fleet redboxes you
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tfw my corp is full of drumpflets and edgy alt-righters
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>>167049837
Personally as a brawler, I see a shitton of other brawlers. If you focus on being able to kill an atron with a tristan by kiting it, you should have a good time.
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>>167056663
Did you draw yourself as a blonde, ponytailed, neckbearded faggot or is that a recycled meme?
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>>167056495
The thing is i dont even care about that but it effects how things go down in game. Like ok that's cool you want to make online gaming not like the stereotypical teens flaming each other each day. But then you talk down to people, belittle members, be super smug or do other shit and no one can call you out on it. Like you don't need curse words to be a total cunt to people.

And then if you ever disagree with leadership its because you are not being positive or are insulting people, etc. Like it totally ends up being the liberal language/behavior control from real life politics but scaled down to eve. Like one time they stopped an FC from explaining what went wrong during a major fleet flight because it was too negative or some bullshit. And stuff like timers and fits either get missed or overlooked because they got be ego tripping over who has access to actually change stuff.
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>>167058043
>they stopped an FC from explaining what went wrong during a major fleet flight
Their feelings are not more important than understanding how your corp can play more effectively, purge them.
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>>167058043
I really do try hard to interrupt political arguments with eve related questions or statements to try to derail the debate.

Its weird too; I love a good political debate, but I loathe them in Eve.
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>>167058212
same. i have made some terrible ass jokes before to provide transition of the subject back to eve. the sacrifices you need to make to get some peace to fly your spaceships...
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>>167056495
>>167058212
Maybe you'd have more civil debates if you didn't refer to everyone that disagrees with you as retards?
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>>167058634
shut up you fucking retard
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>>167058634
I think I said I don't talk about politics on eve, so I don't engage anybody.

We could just not have debates on Eve. That's cool too. Eve has its own politics. Lets talk about those.
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>>167058929
I'll start by asking the question...

Do you think newbros infatuation with mining will drive down ore prices?
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Nestor in small battleship gang y/n?
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>that ship where ccp just has no idea and they don't even care
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>>167059004
too hard of a question to answer unless you are ccp with access to all the logs imo.
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>>167059590
I just feel like there are a lot of newbros who mined, got bored, tried to pew pew something, got their shit pushed in, and returned to comfy mining.

I know a few in my corp who have to be "pushed out of the nest."
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>>167059847
newbro mining is fucking worthless compared to the amount of mining being done by rorquals.
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>some bizarre corp is escorting a barghest through my low sec

why
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>25% bonus to Small Energy Turret falloff range
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>tfw just want to fly small gang with people who dont speak

is this too much to ask?
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>>167060282
enjoy getting REKT with trying to type and kite and keep point and keep up with intel and yeah... GL M8
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>>167060282
maybe lie and say you are deaf and see if there is a deaf group you can join ? there is at least one legit deaf guy in my corp.
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>>167060282
>i just want to be an autistic faggot

there's a game for you, it's called elite dangerous
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>2017
>still no proper PvE gameplay
Why is this allowed

On a side note maybe i should return and shuut some crosses with lasers...
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>low sec hauler spawn
>i'm in a frigate

fug
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>>167060196

>my low sec
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CHAOS does it again truly the meme alliance of the month.
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>hise pvp
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>>167065008
Get out of my lowsec
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Any miners? I'm looking to get into mining but even with low skills, ratting gets anywhere between 30 to 60 m/hr, while mining with a procurer gets me 10 to 20m/hr. What skills and yield do you get? Caps aside, of course. I want to know if it's worth it to train into an exhumer or just missiles and then a rattlesnake
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>>167065468
>Caps aside, of course. I want to know if it's worth it to train into an exhumer or just missiles and then a rattlesnake

Rattlesnake. Mining only makes money when you have a bunch of accounts and you boost their yield with an orca or whatever. Training rattle (focus on drones, not on missiles) gives you several areas of PVE and okayish PVP.
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>>167059561
what ship

>>167062510
>orbit
>f1
>wait
>f1
>wait
>f1
>lock more targets
it's pretty boring desu
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>>167065581
Assuming I'm being boosted and compressing on spot, can I get over 100m/hour in a skiff/hulk?
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>>167065468
Join goons and train into mercoxit mining. You get paid to do it because rorq can't.
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>>167065583
It's not about pressing f1 on crosses...it's about "this one sure has some good loot in it"
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>tfw the carebears in incursion group perform better than my pvp corp gang when it comes to RR and primary
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>primary is X
>dps is split on 3 dudes
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>>167066360

Childish people tend to hate PvE, so they all end up doing PvP.

I am not saying that all PvP is childish (I enjoy it myself, and can't really avoid it in EVE), but all teenagers and childish people end up in PvP (or trying it).

That is the reason of the low performance and (sometimes) the bad "vibe".
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>>167067027
>in noob ship
>literally no reason to shoot me other than not being blue
>get shot
why do pvp shitters always do this
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>he thinks he is free to gather intels freely in open with a noob ship
>>
>spying on my own alliance
>>
>I'm totally on you guys side yo trust me no lie
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>>167067738

Do alliance mates shoot each other in null sec?
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>flying alt around in noobship because everything else is expensive
>run into neut
>pods me for literally no reason other than to +1 his killboard
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>>167068078
You could've been carrying a PLEX in your cargo hold.
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>>167068243
why would you ever take plex out of a station
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>>167068356
Good question, ask those pilots who autopilot in rookie ships with multiple PLEX/skill extractors in their cargo hold.
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>>167056686

The problem is getting in on the offensive. Tried a dual web hookbil once, armor tank with td and entered one with a comet. No chance, the damage you take while gaining distance is too great.

However, Ive seen dual web fits that might use mwd to gain distance with a first cycle. Sounds interesting.

Rule of FW I learned: thrasher sucks. Seriously, it really does.
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>/v/bros
Is there a shittier in game channel even?
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>tfw been playing for years
>still don't know how to solo hunt very well

I got SP, i'm lacking in knowledge

Someone give me a retards primer on a MASB hawk and what to hunt for?

Can i kill cruisers quickly?

Rocket brawler? LML 15km kitey?

Forgive my foolishness, i've been a fleet babby too long
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>>167069337
>what is rmt
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>he doesn't bring logi to fleet
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>>167068078
Why don't you warp away in your pod?
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>Extreme market PvP
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>>167070157
Email me at my webzone if anyone will answer you...
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>The Angel Cartel and the Serpentis Corporation are gathering for their annual talks to discuss business and the underworld politics of New Eden. With narcotics smuggling on the rise, and the Cartel and Serpentis rumored to be using Super Kerr Injected Nano-coatings to mask the contents of their cargo holds, CONCORD are offering incentives for capsuleers to put a stop to the Gala, by locating and destroying their rally points.
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>>167073818
>white-grey camo that faded to copper brown
Nah, I'll pass, come back when they have actually good skins like purity
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Hello EVE players. It's been years since I've played. How have things been going?
Last time I played, I was a member of MHA who had an alt in IT alliance spying on behalf of goons and NA. Most fun I've ever had in the game. I know that NA was killed off sometime after "new bob" (what it was referred to at the time) fell, but I was already gone by then.
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>Hello EVE players
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>>167073818
>buy missing materials
That should've fucking been there from the start.
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>>167074805
>can't into replying
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The stabber is literally the worst cruiser
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So if I have Tactical Shield Manipulation 5 I can't be one shotted?
Also why does Eve use roman numerals in skills levels?
>>
To filter uneducated retards like you
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>>167077974
>So if I have Tactical Shield Manipulation 5 I can't be one shotted?
Tsm doesn't have anything to do with being one shotted
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>>167078756
if damage has 0% to penetrate the shield they first have to kill the shield completely and only then kill everything else, no?
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>>167079167
>http://updates.eveonline.com/date/2017-02-14/
what kind of difference would that make

i really dont understand what youre trying to get at here

>>167078504
>roman numerals
>wow much education such smart
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>>167079167
No, it means you won't experience armor bleed while you still have shield left.
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>>167079381
dont know why that update url got copied in there, but it isn't supposed to be there
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>be low skill
>fleet up for pvp
>always get btfo first in fight
when does it get better?
>>
>>167081504
when you let them target someone else first
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>>167081504
Broadcast for reps
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>>167081504
When you start flying maller.
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>>166910068
>not wanting to be a pirates gf
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>>167081543
doesn't seem possible given how they can instantly point out I'm not in a T2 or T3 ship

>>167081628
I'd still be dead after the first cycle

>>167081801
alright switching from caldari to amarr
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>>167082701
if you think being t1 is the problem then just fly t2

i got into a t3 destroyer in less than a month of starting eve, wasn't perfect but it worked fine and only got better as i continued skilling
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>>167056006
Sent, thanks for the offer to try and help.
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>>167081504
Don't fly a blackbird or anything gay like that and you'll be fine.
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>>167082701
>I'd still be dead after the first cycle
What are you in and what's the rest of the fleet in?
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Is this enough tank and gank for guristas DED sites?
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>tengu
>stable 34%
Post your whole fit you nigger
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>>167085308
>not having a stable tengu

do you even into fitting?
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>25,3
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>>167085792
you must be a noob. you don't need more than that for guristas deds. the only important thing is how fast you can kill BS and maze structure.
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>he runs 10/10s
>>
blitz
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>>167085487
>medium shield booster
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>he flies internet spaceships
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>someone from alliance is private convoing me
>log off immediately
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>>167086497
>he doesn't erp with his alliance bros
>>
>he accepts convo from people he doesn't know
>>
>have 2 characters now, one ~20m SP and the other ~6m
>feel like they're ready for cruisers and frigs respectively
>time to learn PVP
>a month now and I still haven't joined a corp

Everything just sounds the same and I don't know what to go for. I tried some solo in FW areas and got in my first few fights, one of which I was winning but they managed to get away just before death. The rest I lost. Honestly its quite tedious getting a half decent fight solo and I feel like being in a small/medium size gang would be a lot more fun
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How long should I be aiming to get my cap time in a pvp frig? Atm it is 40 seconds with everything running (mwd), is it worth using 2 rigs to make that 60 seconds?
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>>167087442
without knowing what your setup is this is meaningless
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>>167087630

Tristan kiter with drones only
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>>167087442
Yes and no, you shouldn't have your mwd running at all times if you aren't cap stable. Just cycle it to keep your speed higher than your opponents speed and let your cap rest for small amounts of time.
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>>167087675
you could try not running your mwd all the time before you trash your fit with cap mods
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>>167087716
>>167087740

Okay so maybe rigs for the drones and then I just watch the distance/speed of the enemy ship and cycle the mwd on/off. Thanks guys
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>>167087927
>rigs for the drones

there are no useful drone rigs m8
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>>167088135

how's this? I could change the disrupter for a shield extender but I figured if I'm mostly tanking by speed/distance I should probably play to that
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>tfw some company named Balmer is making TDs
>we will never know the lore behind the company
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>>167086731
Join Horde.
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>>167088263
there's no point fitting shield rigs if you don't have a shield extender

and I know lots of people don't do it, but any tristan without a damage control is automatically a shit fit
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>>167088437

I'll take a look now

>>167088916

Won't the 30% resist make quite a difference even with base shield? What rig should I use in its place?

I could swap one of the DDAs for a DCU but I feel like my dps would be very low then
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>>167089084
no, it won't. well either you should fit a medium extender, or you should drop the rig for more speed, or you should fit a damage control and then that opens up hull rigs as not-useless
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>been cruising WH and null for the past 3 hours
>Accumulated 60mil isk
>fucking fuck its so bad
>combat site
>combat site
>combat site
>gas
>combat

im far from home, and paranoid. Im taking a break.
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>>167089237

How's this?
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>>167089332
>do incursions
>even if it's absolutely awful ISK/h you get 60 mil/h
wanna kill myself because of comms tho
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>>167089613
it has a lot more ehp, but you're using a nanofiber which has a structure penalty. this is bad when you are structure tanking. polycarbons have an armour penalty which is less bad for you
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>>167089237

Oh wait I just realised, does the nano defeat the point of the hull rig or are they worth using together?
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>>167089692
>incursions
>60m/h
Stop flying with shit communities, I make triple that without being impressed.
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>>167089730
The nanofiber does counter the hull rig. Increase in structure then a reduction in structure

Use an overdrive injector instead
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>anon boasts about his isk/hour while queueing
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>>167089692
Dude 60m/h?

Thats one site every 30 minutes you're supposed to be able to do these in less than 15 minutes
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>>167060496
Yeah, he's not deaf. He's just an autist.
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>>167090319
>>167090456
That was my point. Even if you fly with shit communities you still make 3 times more than he did.
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>>167090342

Sweet, now I have higher EHP and its faster to boot. Thanks mate
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>>167090637
Do you have enough cpu to swap the mwd for a cold enduring mwd? You'll save more capacitor and be able to run it longer
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>it's a I didn't check enemy ship's model for guns episode
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>>167093029
You should get into the habit of doing that, it's a life saver
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>>167093029
>ac nado

But why?
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>>167094362
memes
>>
there's nothing wrong with acs on a nado you autist
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>>167094579
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Is there a way to check the status of my market orders while I am offline and on mobile or a Web browser?
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>>167060282
This is my #1 endgame goal too.
We should make a corp.
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>>167095559
EVE droid
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>>167095559
And what are you going to do? Stare in despair and watch how your orders get 0.01 isk'd?
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>>167095765
this. its legit. i use it every day.
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>>167095906
I just imported some stuff to my corps nullsec staging and I want to see how it's doing
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>>167096421
Learn to type or fuck off to twitter or whatever shithole you crawled from, nigger.
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>Phobos
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Small wrecks worth salvaging? From level 2 missions and such.
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>>167101724
Nope. unless you enjoy doing it.
>>
will smith
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>>167101724
nah, only if you're ridiculously strapped for cash and need every single isk, because you're better off taking more missions than spending the time to salvage. Only time they're worth salvaging is L4s and even then only a handful of them under special circumstances.
>>
doggo
>>
>dread spawns in anoms were put in as a sort of counter to people afking in vni/ishtar
>you have to start aligning in a bs before it spawns to get away in time
is this like a fuck you go rat in a carrier?
>>
Jovian expansion when
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>his plate rep abaddon can't align fast
Stop flying shit BSs, also afterburner handbrake exist.
>>
>plate rep
stop this meme
>>
>capital ratting still not removed
>afk drones still not removed
>oversized prop still not removed
>high sec incursions still not fixed
>>
Kys reddit, platerep is fine
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>>167109650
>>capital ratting still not removed
Nothing wrong with taking your cap into anoms
>afk drones still not removed
if its AFK makes it easier for you to blops them
>oversized prop
nothing wrong with this
>high sec incursions
nothing wrong with them

keep meming faggot

>>167109781
no fuck you its awful
>>
>>167109650
working as intended
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>>167101724
Salvage drones pretty much automate the process. I like to do it just to chill after the combat.

It does kill your time efficiency since it takes forever.
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>>167109650
how are incursions broken?
>>
>>167111554
He thinks because they're in highsec that its broken even though every monetary metric shows that Nullsec produces fuck tons more isk comparatively
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>no fuck you it's awful

Mfw some nullbabby anom shitter talking about solo/smallgang fits
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>nothing wrong with highsec incursions

I've been memed
>>
>I skilled into a t3 destroyer and bought it
>now I'm just looking at it sit in jita, still having no idea what to do
>>
>>167112394
pvp is fun I hear
>>
>>167112621
>go out looking for people to kill
>there's nothing
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>>167112710
>drone lands
>>
>>167112710
depends on where you look for it, when i was living lowsec (considerable amount of ships in hisec too) i took ships to null and always found fights or people to gank, sometimes it took hours of roaming and camping to find a suitable kill.

it wasn't always in my favor but it was good fun.
>>
>>167112759
>>167112394
i didn't know jita was in drone lands
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>>167112880
shit forgot to add, i went to dronelands, south, north. you just need to learn which entrances are usually camped and find a way around them to enter null, then you'll mostly be able to pick fights you want to pick and avoid ones you wanna avoid. that being said i wouldn't go to north these days.
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>>167112710
finding fights is a skill
>>
>>167113047
how to find fights anon tell me

i even have a combat probe launcher and i cant do it
>>
>>167113235
Go to places with the right number of people and make a nuisance without getting stuck
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>>167112389
According to CCP its fine its not even on their radar and nullsec draws more money than all of incursions

>>167112389
post your killboard faggot and your shit fits too
>>
kill yourself ayallah
>>
Daily reminder that the moros is the worst dread and the nag is better in every fuckin way
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>>167114706
false, the revelation is the worst dread.
>>
>>167114706
Why is it that the Moros is the only dread that can warp to a large tower at 30 and land in the right position?
>>
>>167114798
Unlike the moros the rev can tank and won't cap itself out.

>>167114836
the nag can do that too, it has more range
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>mfw the nag has better cap than the moros

Nag has better range on guns, more optimal AND falloff
Same paper DPS as the moros except the nag gets to choose damage so it technically does more
Capless guns that won't cap it out
superior tank
>>
I'm going to sleep and I hope someone will create a new thread with a cool picture in the OP. I know there is at least one other anon that creates threads and I don't mean that PH autist that hates newbies.
Actually I hope I won't see /dog/ at all
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>>167115031
too bad the rev can't hit anything and can't give up any mids for utility.

also
>armor caps
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>>167115389
>too bad the rev can't hit anything and can't give up any mids for utility.
the rev has superior range it can hit anything out to 50km.

>mids for utility
doesn't need a cap booster to run its guns
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>>167086413
Unless you are trying to run C3 Radars/Mags solo dolo, a LSB tengu is overkill for most everything
>>
>>167115225
post both your fits for the nag and moros

Something smells off about your claims
>>
>m-muh scorch!

So capbabbies can do this too now?
>>
Cant decide between nyx and aeon. Latter seems to be better on dps+ehp and also cheaper, but damn, it's so ugly.
>>
>nyx
>not ugly
>>
>>167117743
>nyx
>ugly
>>
>>167116889
just look at the base stats of everything

the capital blasters are absolute shit, they have less optimal and less falloff than the nag's autocannons. They also do similar DPS but because the nag gets selectable damage it can supersede it completely.

The nag also gets slightly higher cap regen, which isn't a big deal but it goes to show how fucking stupid it is

The moros gets so many bonuses that just eat more cap

Rate of fire bonus and an armor repper cycle time bonus? Its retarded when a moros drops and enter siege it IMMEDIATELY has to start capping up because it'll cap itself out just on guns if it does. The nag? can regen naturally because fucking nothing on it uses cap
>>
>>167117672
the nyx is fully in meta. Everyone wants a nyx or an aeon and your best bet is a nyx

the nyx's superior damage and fight EHP makes it superior for offensive capabilities which is what all supers are about
>>
>>167071310
>friendly space
>every gate is bubbled to hell because fuck off we're full
>>
>>167086413
>2000 dps tank is not enough for anything
u
wot
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>>167117743
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>>167118271
warp to literally ANYTHING else?
>>
>>167118512
>there's bubbles ON the gate
>noob ships have no tank so it got popped instantly
>>
>>167118616
thats your fault for being a fucking retard and not traveling in a ceptor
>>
>>167118751
I didn't have a interceptor at the time
>>
>>167118616
>he's so bad he can't get through a bubble in a rookie ship
Protip: you can overheat AB
>>
>>167118859
Thats your fault for not having one at the time
>>
>>167118873
>come through gate
>nerd was LITERALLY on the gate
there was no chance to flee
>>
>>167118984
Its your fault for not having a ceptor
its your fault for not bringing one before
its your fault for being a retard and not podding yourself or switching clones to go get one
its your fault for not covering your bases
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>80m/hour
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>login after having logged off in a middle of a random wormhole
>loaded in
>client socket has closed
>fucking hell
>logging back
>lag, taking longer than the usual to get in
>ship is in warp
>some shield is lost
Not sure what happened but that spooked me alright.
>>
>>167120234
your shield doesn't recover when you're logged off, you must have logged off with some shield damage
>>
>>167120434
so that means someone engaged me when I logged off yesterday
that's even more spoopy man
>>
stasis web or target painter for pve drone boat?

Am I wrong in thinking a stasis web would allow larger drones to hit smaller ships?
>>
>>167120747
you wouldn't have logged off if they engaged
>>
>>167120894
painter has more range
>>
>>167120894
TP helps better
>>
>>167117889
>90% grey
>flimsy front bits
>>
>>167121327
>>90% grey
>>flimsy front bits
>ugly
>>
>>167120919
well I didn't use the safe log off option so that might explain it
>>
>>167121467
Ugly as shit m8
>>
>>167121729
>having shit tastes
>>
>>167121745
that's you. hel only
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