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/scg/edg/ Star Space Dangerous Citizen Elite General #126: Thou

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derelict thread: >>166641003
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3.0 WHEN???
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Just let it die in peace.
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>>166854220
You could drop the planetary hangar. Most stations near landable planets sell one so you can fit it on a need basis. Replace it with MRPs or something. I assume you're engineering the packhounds.
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>>166854031

There's a cooldown period, then it'll be back. Days, probably.
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>>166854570
no peace for you
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>>166854656
fuck I just collected 20 missions before noticing
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>>166854641
>I assume you're engineering the packhounds.
I will be. I might use multicannons in the meantime while I hunt down the necessary components
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Fucking explain to me how my radar red dot is in the blue, im facing the only fucking tower here, my landing gears are down, and why it wont fucking dock??????
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>>166855079
turn around
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>>166855079
You're docking backwards.
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>>166855079
You're facing the wrong way dumbass.
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>>166855170
>>166855176
Then why the fuck were you autists spamming me to fucking face the tower last night???
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>>166855079
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>166855253
When did this happen
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>>166855253
NOT THAT FUCKING TOWER
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>>166855253
Because "tower" meant "buildings on docking pad" and they're fucking stupid.
The end of the pad with the holographic numbers is the end you're supposed to face.
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>>166854940

You can still fight in a ceasefire but you'll be on your own vs the entire side.

A bunch of us in open are just steamrolling them ourselves. There's 7 of us here right now.
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>>166855597
CMDR going commando
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>>166855253
>fucking face the tower

Probably assumed you were in a coriolis or something, where the pads literally have control towers on them.

Here's a better rule of thumb:

You see that blast shield with the triangle on it that's tilted up? Your engines are supposed to be facing those you aren't washing engine exhaust all over the docking crew.
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>connection error
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Will shitizens ever recover?
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>>166857340
here it is enjoy ^
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So I assume 17D has to go from Recovering from Civil War, to Civil Unrest, and then it'll go back to Civil War?
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>>166857841
yep it's basically syria
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>>166857969

So what's the time frame? A few hours? A day?
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>>166858264
3 days to a week its kinda like isis no matter how many losses they will still fucking fight
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CIG utilizes boom-bust economics.
>Bust period:
>Withhold all content possible
>Reduce communication with playerbase
>Make official media less substantive
>Funding goes by slow, playerbase is unhappy

>Boom period:
>Release lots of new content, stuff that was withheld in the bust period, even some unannounced stuff such as procedural planets
>CIG is the messiah of gaming and is going to make an amazing game
>+$10 million
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>>166855597
I'm in open with fucking no one... managed to kill an f63 before i got my shit pushed in
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>>166858707
kek implying they are "withholding" AI
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>>166857340
>+4 years in
>still only artwork
hahahahahaha
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>>166855408
>last night
last night.
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>>166858724
lolinstancing
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>>166858889
cunt idiot fuk u
naysayer
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>>166859309

loli stancing?
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Feels good to be back
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>>166860330

I'm surprised you didn't stack a few of those or at least hold out for 100mil to go to the core and back.
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>>166858724
I tried too and got killed. Managed to find a couple pretty chill dudes and we killed a dozen or so but it's too hard you need twice as many players at least. I'll try again tomorrow I'm hoping I find a server with a decent group there.
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>>166849194
What I mean is that I've been playing for a couple weeks only and I can already see a clear progression regarding FSD jump distances/time played so it's not like you can cover 50LY+/jump in a starting sidewinder, and also how some ships/outfits are more suited to improve that particular aspect while neglecting others such as firepower or defense. I can't really see how any this is wrong from any perspective: lore, gameplay and realism.

Many of us think Elite:Dangerous is wrong on much more fundamental points so it's best we don't answer that
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>>166858707
>+$10 million
I bet Derek Smart wishes he had that kind of money.
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>>166859656
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>>166861569
why don't you include all the releases prior to 2.0?
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>>166861754
why don't you save the jpg ($560 to my paypal account), and add those releases next to each month yourself? the modding tools i'm giving you for free.

I didn't fancy searching through their crappy archive for pre-2.0 releases, and 2.0 was multicrew. It wasn't to make them look more incompetent, it just happens to have that effect, taking 3 years to implement multicrew module.
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>>166861940
multicrew was possible before 2.0 in freeflight, it just didn't exist in any meaningful sense because you couldn't hop out and get in a friends ship in AC other than the hangout mode.
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>>166860818
Didn't have space in the ship for more and it was my first exploration run.

>picture
Best system I found. 2 Earth-like and 2 Water Worlds + First Exploration bonus.
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>>166858889
That's not true, we've stolen much more than artwork at this point!
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>>166859656
Where's Duke Nukem Forever? That one tops the list and you don't even show it? And Half-Life 3, since we're talking about games STILL stuck in development hell?
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>>166863464
>Episode two was a decade ago
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I still smell a 3.0 release in august at the earliest and a SQuander 42 around christmas.
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How am I supposed to get the rank up missions to appear for Federal?

I was getting them at 17D but it was asking me to haul 48 tons of cargo 374ly and other stupid bullshit I couldn't do.
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>>166866246
Just keep refreshing and looking for Federal Navy missions from Fed factions.

I have to say that since Powerplay, I've had no luck getting different types of rankup missions for either faction. One would appear (e.g. smuggling) and it would be the only one that would ever spawn.
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>>166866649

FUG.
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What podcast or album should I put on before I head into space?
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>>166866752
>the only one that would ever spawn.
Worded that badly, I meant that it would never give me any other type of mission for rankup. Even if it disappeared after a refresh, the same mission would reappear. You may have to leave your grind spot.

You can gain rep even at 100%, it will just show up properly after you rank up (i.e. you'll see your rank % begin at more than 0% after getting your new rank). I grinded about 5 ranks' worth of rep and did five rankup missions in a row, but that was long ago. Someone else may need to confirm if this still works.
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A-Rank Python or C-Rank Anaconda?
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>>166863464
I think we can safely presume HL3 to be dead and buried at this point. Valve abandoned game development altogether in favor of just maintaining Steam.
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>>166867493
Combat, no. It will feel like swatting flies with a telephone pole. Trading, yes, but D-rank it.
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>>166865894
All their major releases seem to be around Christmas time. I think it might be CR pushing everyone to crunch and get it out before the holiday break so people can't whine, and at least have something to play.
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>>166866246
You have to be friendly or allied with the minor faction. Cordial may work but not sure. + 100% on the rank of course.
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>>166868373
We have no idea when SQ42 will come out besides that it is at least Q2.
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>>166868373
So that will mean that between now and 3.0 will just be 2.6.X bug fix patches and maybe a ship if they need some quick cash?

Yet another year I can go back into hibernation from the world of CIG.
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>>166868615
No, as >>166868610 says, we don't know. I'm just pointing out that 2.0 and 2.6, their major milestones, were both released at Christmas time.

We also don't know how far their AI stuff along is. Tony makes it sound like vaporware, and CR makes it sound like it's just around the corner.

See >>166861569
March 2016 had 4 patches.
While the gap between 2.5 and 2.6 was 4 months.
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Im stuck in the middle of no where with no gas
what do
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>>166868986
Swallow your pride and call the Fuel Rats or self-destruct
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6A Shield or 6C Bi-weave?
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What's the fastest way to get Trade to Elite?
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>>166871046
become a jew
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>>166870972
What ship?
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>>166871046
Maybe trading, I dunno...
I don't do that shit but I'm pretty sure its ranked on profit so after x amount of credits earned by trading you can get Elite rank
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>>166871363

Python, 2 boosters.
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>>166871046
robigo exploit during a boom
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>>166871445
6A
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what is edg up to today
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>I'll be patient and picky and stack high profit CZ missions so I can make 100+ mil in one go ez!
>No CZ missions higher than 1 mil reward for the past hour
Is there anything I can do to get more/better missions? I'm allied and all that jazz, everything was going well yesterday, why is RNG always a cunt?
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>>166871465
if you do this make sure you never ever go to robigo ever again once you're done
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>>166871725
Trying to not commit suicide mostly
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>>166872295
but if you do that how will you grind
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>load game
>solo
>17 drac cz
>find and kill the smallest shit before geting ripped apart by the order
>end process
>rinse and repeat

I <3 the grind. Praise Brabben!
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>>166871725

Outfitting my ship bought with Civil War bux.

Didn't get to exploit as much of 17D as I wanted. But I'll be in a better position next time.
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>>166872825
it's in cease fire you dumbass


>>166872871
yeah same i'm leaving my fdl there so i won't have to wait a hour and 34 mins next time
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>>166871978
>I'm allied
That's all you can do.

You can try making a login/logout macro but the timings on menu elements vary a lot.
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>>166873064
You're a regular motherfucking sherlock holmes you know that?
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>>166873608
you're the one complaining about getting lit up when you kill the orders ships
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>>166871725
Doing those godawful skimmer missions so I can get my Federal BRRRRTship
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>>166873758
I wasn't complaining autismo, I was being snide.
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>>166875073
With engineers can you make Federal BRRRRTship actually able to turn?
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What album/podcast should I listen to in space bros?
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>>166875186
what is fa off
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>>166875186
How fast do you want to turn?
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>>166876045
Hnnnnnng that loadout is rude as fuck. I watched a video and I think it was the gunship or dropship that couldn't turn and got wrecked due to it.
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>>166876045
is that the Space A-10?
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>tfw made 350 million from 17D
>only caught it on the last two days and didnt even play the whole day

Heading back to rank up with Fed and buy a Federal Funship.
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>>166876045
>that much dakka
i'm diamonds, would love to see all those tracers coming out of you
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>>166875305
Typically whatever you like listening to normally. I'd personally recommend the osts for VA-11 HALL-A, Hyper Light Drifter, and Furi, all of which are conveniently located on Youtube.
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>>166876045
>>166876986
This. Webm of you firing please.
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>>166876045
It feels good to throw hot lead across the universe, doesn't it?
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>>166876045
>Flys behind you
>Nothin personnel kid
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTT
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What if Elite added guilds and the ability for them to buy/build the capital ships that NPCs use. complete with multicrew and harder missions requiring them.
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>>166877352

GO
PLAY

E V E

V

E
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>>166877468
There isn't multicrew in Eve
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>>166877596

One pilot.
One ship.

Go play EVE, or CQC if that floats your boat. Multicrew is only for casual play between friends and limited to only four AT MOST, not for yet another avenue for psychos to easily kill people who just want to play peacefully.
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>>166877723
Its past your bedtime, dad.
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>>166876045
Oh my God
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>>166877723
Okay Dad. Have fun tucking in your wife's son tonight. I hope you realize that with multicrew you can play "peacefully" as well.
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>>166877165
>>166876986
Sure. Give me a bit, though.
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>>166866991
Home world 2 ost
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>>166876045
How long did it take to get all those mc engineered like that
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What's this 17D I keep hearing about? Sounds like a good way to make mad dosh, Naitis skimmer missions kinda suck
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>>166879591
its a place that gives a shit tone of money for conflict zones made 250 mil in 1 and a half days
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>>166879723
>conflict zones
The joints where all the NPCs have railguns and rockets? Yeesh. I don't know if I'm up for that
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>>166879831
y i had issues in my fully kitted fdl
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>>166879591

17 Draconis is a system in bumfuckegypt space that has the anomaly of one of the factions always giving a ton of massacre missions when they go to war with another faction, and the rewards for these missions range from anywhere between 500k all the way to 20 million for one mission.

Each mission requires you to kill a certain number of ships, but each kill counts for EVERY mission so you can pick up a bunch of these missions all at once, go grind in the system conflict zone, and come back and turn them all in for massive amounts of cash. This is called "mission stacking."
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>>166879930
I don't have nearly enough money for an FDL. I've been bombing around in a DBack
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>>166880054
if you want a tip on how to make alot of money you do passenger missions
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>>166880139
I should give that a try. What's a good ship and place to get missions?
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>>166879831
>>166880054

You could always try. When the system goes back to war, head to the system in a jump-fitted Hauler and transfer your ship. There's always a ton of people fucking about slaughtering Order ships, just fly alongside them and snag kills. As long as you get a hit in, the kill will count for you.
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>>166879591
>>166879831
>>166879930

17 Draconis.

New 17 Draconis Alliance vs The Order

New 17 works with the Federation, so it's also federation rep

The only mission offered is Massacre. And each kill counts for every mission. So like, anywhere from 8 to 72 ships to kill, anywhere from 1m reward to 7m+. (Up to 20 missions at a time)

Yeah, they all have plasma and rails, but if you keep resetting the instance until you have more friendlies than enemies (and maybe work with a wing/open) then you're unlikely to get shot enough for it to matter.

I showed up with nothing in a Viper IV a day and a half ago and flew out with +250m this morning from pretty casual playing. Bought a Python. I could definitely actually fight and contribute instead of dying in two shots now.

But they're in Cease Fire right now, so if you were to go pick up the missions the NPCs won't help you anymore. But the civil war WILL be back. Just wait.

Ps. I'm surprised /edg/ is willing to crush The Order. Do you know what those guys stand for? Erradication of all Xenos, xenos tech, research, etc.
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>>166880217
well if you have a home station use that and a asp will work good i had the luxury of using a anaconda so i had a good jump range but a asp should work
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>>166876986
>>166877165
>would love to see all those tracers
Here you are.

>>166879490
>All G5 90+ main stat rolls
A while. Fuck Modified Embedded Firmware.
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>>166881906
dat framerate tho
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Noob here
where do I buy mining lasers in E:D?
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>>166885532
You should check THIS WEBSITE

http://inara.cz/galaxy-outfitting

Plug in your system and off you go. Just remember all the shit you need for refining the ore
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anyone want to group up for the massacre kills for 17 drac? It will prob go faster with a group
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>>166886041
isn't it still in cease fire
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>>166886079
in my experience it only goes ceasefire when you attack the order or a faction within the cz without picking a side. I'm in one right now

If anyone wants to group up make private group / open, don't matter
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>>166886384
I'm there right now and it says ceasefire for me, and it won't let me pick a faction.
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>>166886079
welp I was wrong it is cease fire
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>>166886632
>>166886604
welp see you guys next week
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1080p is not treating ben lesnick well
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>>166891731
It's not like he can fit in anything smaller.
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>>166892063
That's why 4k was invented. More girth per pixel.
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I mean, no. But thanks for the offer.
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>>166894876
>tfw became a billionaire smuggling slaves for the fun of it
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>>166895765
I never want to see that station again.
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>>166896117
I knew I'd find you eventually, all that tasty cargo!
I knew I'd find you eventually, all that tasty cargo!
I knew I'd find you eventually, all that tasty cargo!
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>>166878327
Never played ED so I have to ask :

Since I keep hearing about how incomplete ED is, is the multiplayer akin to a FPS with no spawn kill feature or a MMO with nothing to prevent constant ganking?

Dad look clearly like asshole but if someone prefer to play solo or logout in battle, maybe you should blame the shitty developers who made it preferable.
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>>166896343
I think there's a logout timer or something in battle? I've never tried. However, Dads just alt-F4. You respawn inside a ship in a space station. Maybe they should make it like Eve. Your ship stays in space blahblah minutes/seconds after you've logged out anywhere other then a station.

Dads are assholes. Most of them want to prevent features from being added such as storage or guilds. Anything "fun"
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>>166896676
>Maybe they should make it like Eve. Your ship stays in space blahblah minutes/seconds after you've logged out anywhere other then a station.
They can't because of the peer-to-peer multiplayer model.
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>>166896117
I kind of want to. Nostalgia I guess
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>>166896725
I love and hate this game BRAAAAABEEEEEEEEN
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>>166876782
>>166877235
shit plane, shit taste

fucking amerifats
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>>166896725
If only they had a DEREK SMART to tell them what's suited for MMO.
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>>166886384
>>166886604
>>166886632
You can still kill Order ships they are marked as mission targets if you have massacre missions open. If anyone wants to make some money I'd be up for that.
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>3.0 will be out soon, really!

HAHAHAHAHHA cultists
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>>166854261
anyone know what these ships are with the cat?
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>>166899269
Stolen Aegis technologies reverse engineered by Drake
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>>166899419
I love how 70s scifi they look. I hope everything isn't all shiney and they do put some space junkers in the game.
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>>166899269
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/318989/corsair-fighter-drake-ephalanx-wip
Some shitty fan design.
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Fighting in CZ is addictive
Just voicing my appreciation towards the combat zone feature of this game - well done F Dev!
By blind luck I have stumbled upon a system, that was in war state (ok, not blind luck, I was going to see if one of my old smuggling places are still lucrative, but as it turned out, it was in a state of war) and since I had nothing better to do, I have transferred my lil Vulture there, as she was itching to try her new weapons out. Everyone is talking about how good CZs are, so I went and gave it a shot.

Man, I was in for a surprise! The NPCs are much, much more tougher, than anywhere else and it takes a great deal of skill and situation awareness even to stay alive in that Deathball for any length of time. I was instantly hooked and after a while I have noticed that indeed, you need to be a team player there if you want to kill fast and turn the table in your favour. The Vulture is exactly the right ship for this type of work, it does not have the punch to kill quickly anything there, if you play the lone wolf, but if you hang around first, figure the odds and then join one knot of friendly ships, target their targets, start killing, slowly your faction will get ahead and you are comparatively safe. Not completely safe, which is the genius in the setup - as if you stray away from your pack even for a minute, you get ganged by three-four enemies instantly and then it is flee-time or get nailed.

So, ten minutes into my very first CZ I started to taste the excitement, and then played four hours straight - which have never happened to me before in this game, it simply could not engage me enough. Got allied with a faction, unlocked higher and higher paying missions, and four hours later I was 85 million richer as well, without noticing it really.. a welcome bonus on top of the experience I just had. So from now on it is hunting for wars for me :-D
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@166899757
>and four hours later I was 85 million richer as well
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>>166901835
>@
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Federation or Empire?
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>>166902329
They're both retarded, so whoever pays.
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>>166902329
Federation has better combat ships.
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hand to hand combat when?
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>>166904530
In Elite? Probably never.
In SC? Probably in 3.0. But expect CoD:MW implementation of CQC. First person to press button gets the kill.
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>>166904690
I remember talking about martial arts way back when but that is probably coming 2-4 years if it's coming at all.
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What thing are you most excited for in 3.0?
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>>166905281
The net code being fixed, multiple large ships not shitting the framerate, the framerate in general in PU, all the major systems coming together.
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>>166905463
What about the fucking game? Where is it???
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>>166905595
in development
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>>166906013
I donated 30$ when there was only roberts site and no kickstarter. All i wanted was another Freelancer. Is it so fucking hard to make a game, look at Elite for example.
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>>166905595
You'll have to wait until they have released 2.6.1, 2.6.2, 2.6.3, 2.6.4, 2.6.5, 2.6.6, 2.6.7, 2.6.8, all the way to 2.6.99999999 before we'll get a 3.0 schedule report.
Probably around May 2018
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>>166906126
elite is half baked
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>>166902329
is that even a question
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>>166906126
>nice collection of MISC ship models you have there.
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>>166899269
>>166899671
>that picture
That's the second time he try that question, is anon naively trying to pull of false expectation?
(As if it would be noticed by SC backer btw)
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>>166906338
At least it's browning.

SC is just a piece of kneaded dough.
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>Login to Elite
>flip missions for 30 min
>complete 'em in 3 min
>repeat
When the fun starts?
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>>166909995
never ever
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>>166909995
When you let it in your heart, you jaded millenial fuck.
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>>166894876
>You'll never visit Robigo again
>You'll never see 15 Asps sitting there shitposting again
>You'll never show up to Robigo in a Python and watch the Aspfags shit themselves, only to troll the fuck out of them by actually parking on the landing pad and stacking missions again
>You'll never take a shitwinder to Robigo and scan dads again

I miss old Robigo. It was the one fun thing to do at the time when the game was even more empty and boring. FD should have told the Redditards to fuck themselves and never touched it.
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>>166909995
You're living the dream, baby.
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>>166909995
The fun starts with uninstalling ED, give both that and SC a year or two and then come back after spending your time waiting doing things that is actually fun.
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>>166910124
F
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>>166910124
but let's not forget when UA bombing was introduced
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Is SC fun yet? If so, for how long? Should I buy it?
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>>166911426
For about a week,best you wait for freefly and try it.
A minor patch is coming in a few weeks,maybe freefly will happen then
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>>166909995
when you notice that killing players who sit on the objective in open actually completes your missions

load up on torpedoes, motherfucker
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>>166899269
>>166907881
He is going to keep posting that shit until someone other than himself bites. He could at least texture it, make it look nice, take credit for it, and not try to pass it off as some fake leak bullshit that no one believes.
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>>166910912
You do realise we've had the "persistent universe alpha" for over a year now right?
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>>166911426
I think 2.6.0 is far less fun than the last 2.5.x version was (ship controls changed, game more laggy now, annoying bugs etc.)
I'd wait for the 2.6.1 patch for things to get smoother again.
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>>166899269
Those ships on the left looks like som shitty ED concept ships.

They look so extremely dull and boring with no interestning contour.
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>>166912825
All ships in ED are boring.
Its all the same ship but in different sizes.

They are all slightly skewed pentagons.
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>>166913209
Guess why
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>(((Federation)))

Always side with the empire (legitimate authority).
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>>166914117
legit nigger lmao
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>>166914117
>(((Superpowers)))
Always side with whoever is more profitable (legitimate authority).
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>>166909995
Congratulations! You've figured out what a Sandbox game is!

In this day and age when everything is themepark and people need to be taken for a ride to be entertained, there are people who want to sit in the sandbox and go their own way. We WANT to make that left turn at Albuquerque.

E: D has been scratching that itch for me. Letting me pick and choose what I feel like doing when I enter the game and letting me change my mind partway through instead of locking me on a specific goal all the time. If you really need a goal to feel like you're having fun, then make one or go play a themepark game. Otherwise look for a group and make their goal your own. You don't even have to join them, just keep an eye on what they're doing and join in.

Frontier already created a meaningful reason to log in every night. Now it's your turn. If you can't then you need to find another game.
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>>166914358
>Always side with whoever is more profitable (legitimate authority).
>(((More profitable)))

Duty & Honor.
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>>166914359
Mountainblade is a sandbox,yet still manages to be FUN
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>>166913209
No shit. They are designed to fit into stations and to have aerodynamics.
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>>166914473
>(((Duty & Honor)))
>serving the dirt walkers
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jesus fuck this surprised the shit out of me
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>>166914952
:^)
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>>166913597
Reminder : If you think E:D is slow, grindy and repetitive now, just remember that it was EXACTLY as the previous Elite game.

The failure of Frontier (studio) isn't at reproducing the original gameplay or game generation, it's at not reproducing its flaws.

You can say that SC has a complete opposite design philosophy, What is procedurally generated isn't the content, it's the decoration around the content.
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Is the new Cutlass out yet?
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>>166915124
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>>166915292
no
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Would an all burst laser Cutter be good with Efficient Weapon mod and Heat Vent experimental effect be good?

I just want a shiny ipod laser boat
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>>166915865
>not going full multicannons on every ship
its like you hate fun
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I've just recently changed to fixed railguns, but I'm having issues aiming, probably because I suck but also because of my mouse settings in-game.

For those of you who are fixed weapons hotshots, mind showing me your mouse settings in-game? So I at least have some reference point.
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>>166917095
after a python and conda full of them I'm kinda bored of them and reloading
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What's the current status of 17D?
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>>166855079
that ramp is for sweet jumps
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>>166917095
>MCs
>dribbling small amounts of damage over time

cannons and railguns are way more fun

>>166917112
>
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>>166917845
Well, considering that the cutter is also a space dildo, you have a point.
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>>166918004
That and the cutter is very, very fast too.

If you're a lazy trader, go full frag turrets with whatever you want in the huge HP. That build is particularly fun in the Anaconda where you can actually see the cloud of flak you're projecting everywhere around you, plus it absolutey destroys everything that gets too close because you're constantly boosting at it
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Does anyone know if Horizons ever gets included in Steam sales?
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>>166917845
Many thanks anon. Looks my deadzone and sensitivity was way too high.

>Reset mouse
...how could I have missed that with nearly 200 hours playtime.
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>>166918540
>reset mouse
I actually very rarely use it, only in supercruise really.

I also use a very high mouse sens outside the game, so much so that moving the mouse only with my fingers will go from one side of the screen to the other
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ok guys i got store credit to the frontier store what paint job should i get as i can only get one i already have the anaconda vibrant pack i use the anaconda the fdl but i am looking to get a corvette
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>Elite Dangerous has literally no content
>Star citizen will be released in 2025 and only with 25% of the promised content

Sci-Fi/Space is a dead genre
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>>166919186
Buy a braben bobblehead.
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Anyone using HOTAS in ED or in general?
I'm using an X52 Pro and I have this minor issue with the thumb slider when set to radar zoom, it only seems to be working 50%, as in, moving the slider from 0% to 50% it does nothing at all and it only starts working 50% and up.
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>>166919502
no i don't want to be reminded i got jewed
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>>166919735
you didn't get jewed,you got the VISION
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>>166919716
Because radar zoom is not an axis but a push input.
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>>166919946
But it can be set to analog input.
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>>166920016
Shit you're right they've added that in!
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>>166920976
It's still not an actual axis, only recognizes 4 levels of magnification.
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>>166920976
For some reason it's acting weird for me, and I don't know if it's a game issue, my set up or what. I didn't manage to find anything around.
If I move the slider from the left up to halfway through it does nothing, but at 60% radar goes to 20%, 70% to 40%, etc.
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>>166921413
Yeah I know, works the same way for me and I faintly remember trying to sort out that issue like a year before.

It also works that way for reverse movement, 100%-50% it's nothing then it starts to switch zoom levels.

Anyway, I tried setting the roller around E button as an axis and it still only gives you four levels of magnification no gradual zoom, so it kinda defeats the purpose.
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>>166918521
It was at the christmas sale. 50% off.
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Will they ever add an autopilot module to ED?
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The people who is always complaining about the development time of Star Citizen has no idea how much work this is.

Look at other AAA titles who also used a pre-existing engine that didnt do any real engine-altering code that spent at least 6 years on them.

Now look at Star Citizen who alters so much in a pre-existing engine by doing things nobody has ever done before at this scale with all these planned features they have to take into consideration when doing these changes.

CIG is actually doing a lot of experimentation before they show anything to the public.
Ofc. a lot of the stuff we see are just early alpha builds and experiments, but that's what a project like this require.
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>incendiary rounds went from thermal-kinetic to pure thermal a few patches ago
>just learned now
welp time to try cannons
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>>166855084
Is incendiary ammo for the MC actually worth it? As I understand, it reduces DPS now, and changes some kinetic to thermal. The thermal damage would be good against NPCs, who don't have thermal resist shields, but players with thermal shields should have more thermal resistance on shields and hull on average.
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>>166923013
oh shit, just posted about this stuff, are they worth it at all then? I'm looking for a gimballed weapon that doesn't have too much damage falloff, Don't really know if I want to go for the boosted modification.
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>>166901835
Kill yourself.
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Never flown an Eagle before. Heard they're fun.

What's the best build? And should I go Imperial or normal?
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>>166923778
I'm not sure about reduced DPS: it looks like there's still a DPS increase, just offset a little by a small drop in rate of fire. You're right about NPCs' shields' frying super fast.

>>166923916
They take out shields quickly. Hulls are another story, but in conjunction with corrosive on the target (flat non-stacking +20% damage debuff) they're passable. There's no spinup time on the huge ones at least.
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>>166924669
imperial eagle is faster and gets a medium hardpoint. It's my favorite of the 2

either you go unshielded maximum lightweight faggotry with dirty drive'd enhanced thrusters for over 800m/s of insane dagumi speed or you go standard biweave shields, whatever internals you want, and whatever weapon loadout you want. I recommend double shot frag cannons tho: get close, unload, fuck off, repeat
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>>166925112
Forgot my image. Frontier really ought to fix the description on it.

>a large portion
>100%
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>>166917781
lol
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So does anything else compare to 17D while I wait for that civil war to come back around?

I assume note
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>>166925298
Good job using p2w expansion, anon. Can't wait for another one "must-buy-or-fall-behind" season.
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>>166925617
Naitis skimmer missions. Once allied, 40-60m per run, maybe 10 mins to fill up, and 20 to complete. Boring, though.
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>>166926003

Don't suppose it also gives Fed rep?
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>>166917095
This pict need more DAKKA

>>166922418
I shall not let my autism go to waste
(thanks to the original anon who made the face and vehicle I modified)
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>>166926082
>10 years later
kek
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>>166926076
There's one Fed faction which dispenses skimmer missions, so yeah. Primarily for money though. Fed rep is better earned elsewhere.
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>>166926082
holy kek, that pic is so fucking true, even the bolted on parts that do not work in elite.
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>>166925718
are you going to complain about multi-crew anons in a month ?
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>>166906126
I dont know which is gayer, the dildos or the games on the screen.
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>>166925718
Thanks, I get every expansion thanks to LEP!
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>>166927476
i mean that's some impressive amount of anal capability
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>>166926082
>10 years later
>it's complete

that's generous.

Remove one of the wheels
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>>166927657
>wanting a stretched out goatse asshole

Small or gtfo
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>>166926803
>multi-crew anons
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>>166927820
no i dont,im just saying his anus can take a yuge amount of penetration
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>>166925112
Incendiary reduces damage and RoF by 5% now, both of them, some patch note that came out
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>>166928052
>>166927820
>>166927657

>/scg/edg/
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what should be the first ship i buy in E:D? im at like 80k credits
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>>166930591
Prefrably a refund
>combat
eagle
>trade
hauler
>not sure/anything else
cobra
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>>166926082
>that flying saucer on a stick

fucking savage
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>>166930774
nvm im at 178k
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>>166930774
I checked inara to find a cobra but theres no shipyard button when I dock rip
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>>166932397
nvm scratch this found the shipyard. The most expensive thing I can afford is a Viper MKIII
the Cobra is too expensive
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>>166932529
so save up and save up for to cover the insurance incase you seppuku
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>>166932692
So don't buy the Viper and stick with my sidewinder?
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Fucking cobra, Jesus H Christ, can't they just move those small hardpoints closer to the nose?
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>>166932841
yes,buy some upgrades since you get the money for them back
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>>166904786
>whole planet full of prehensile tentacles and alien bugs
>at no point do either of the girls get fucked by prehensile tentacles or alien bugs
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>>166870972
biweaves are spectacular since the large shield regen buff

you can actually fucking see the shields of a cutter with a 8C biweave generator replenish on the HUD almost like a SCB, that thing got even more disgustingly overpowered than it already was
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17 DRACONIS IS BACK I REPEAT 17 DRACONIS IS BACK
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>>166936220

Engine's spinning up. 37 Jumps to verify.
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>>166937307
nvm its just giving me massacre missions but it is in civil unrest
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i pity those who choose not to play open
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>>166937448

If it's in unrest already, that's a good sign I guess.
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I am become Elite: Dangerous, the Grinder of Souls.

Now, is there a way to grind combat ranks faster than just killing things in combat zones?
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>>166937860
no
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>>166910435
>>166910124

late to the party. whats this about?
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>>166938067
UA bombing means selling Unknown Artifacts at a station, shutting down its facilities (outfitting etc) for everyone.

Robigo was a smuggling and moneymaking paradise. Back then if you got scanned it was instant mission failed for your entire stack of missions.
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Is there anyone else farming omega in STO right now? Got any tips for that stupid mini game? It's like they are trying to use physical pain to stop you from grinding omega.
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>>166940581
You're not using your keyboard are you?

Look at the vertical yellow lines on the right hand side where the particles are intercepted. Move your mouse up and down that general area in a smooth rhytmical pattern up, try to keep your hand still and use your fingers to flick it around slightly to get used to the sensitivity and catching them.

They speed up roughly every time a molecule bursts. After you get 2300 points you get 3 particles (max) plus any bonuses. Scoring 2200 gives you 2 particles and a lesser bonus. 2700 is the maximum with 0 missed.
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Few questions

Just got a clipper, been a miner and a trader before so I wanted to try high res or hazres or something combat related for something new, does this generate good cr?

Is this optimal cr/h method when flying clipper?

Best way to grind federation rep? I really want to get my hands on the gunship. Is there something like empire wui guinagi/hip?

Does the ram tah 100 million ancient ruins mission take a long time to do? I understand the basic but how long does it take to scan everything etc, is it soloable in open?
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>>166941059
That's one of the ugliest ships so far I've seen in a space game.
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>>166941052
fucking kek. No, I figured the mouse part out. I wish there was a was to map that to keys or use a Guitar Hero controller.
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Ok guys, I need help. I haven't played ED since powerplay was introduced. I burned myself out on the game rushing my anaconda and I have a few other ships and cash in reserve. I am getting the itch to hop back in and play again (I'd buy horizons if I decide to come back), and I need someone to talk me into or out of it.

Is there anything new that is meaningful? How are the trading loops? Is the economy worse/better than back then? Is the game still infested with anti-fun dads and redditors? Part of the reason I quit was because I couldn't find anyone to fly with that wasn't a massive cocksucker.
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>>166941341
get good desu

I got 2 stacks of red particles since starting grinding last night. I'm going for 6 stacks of each colour, roughly 200 omega upgrades, plus any bonuses, maybe 250 total, added to my existing 145 from last year I should be rolling in epics.
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>>166941171
better than mining

not really, not sure what is tho

CZ mission stacking for fed factions. Search the galmap for fed systems at war/civil war

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha no.
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>>166941462
pls respond
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>>166941561
Dumb question because I can't math. I'm getting a sliver plus a few traces each time, so are you getting 6 stacks of each trace outright plus the stacks of slivers, or are you counting the slivers in with the traces as you get them?
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>>166941605
Thanks man, so fed systems in a state of war and stack cz missions, can't wait to fly that thing.

You wouldn't happen to have any pointers on clipper combat? Weapon selection and pip management specifically. Going from Broker trader to harmless combat pilot is weird.
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>>166941462
No. The only thing to do in Elite is to grind for more ships. PvP is fucking garbage, and you must grind for weeks to get access to engineers, then grind for more weeks to get good rolls on the stuff you modded. Then you can finally PvP, and get blown the fuck up by either a FDL or Cutter.
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>>166942316
6 stacks of red, not including the slivers, shards and fragments.

Here's my fed toon, my KDF has a similar amount. Spread the special projects over all your toons to speed up getting your upgrades.

If you get plenty of fragments you can sell them for like 1 million EC each. But last year the market was flooded with them and it drove the price down and people had to wait a few months for the price to go back up to sell them. It should be worse this year because of people learning the market last time.

Either go for upgrades or leave them as fragments to sell.
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>>166941462
>>166942084
>Is there anything new that is meaningful?
There's engineers which add a whole new level of grind and are required for PVP. Kinda fun if you like small ships and want to go fast. Canyon racers seem to be the only people genuinely happy. Planetary landings are another source of grind.

> How are the trading loops? Is the economy worse/better than back then? Is the game still infested with anti-fun dads and redditors?
All more or less the same.
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>>166942316
Getting the red from Vlugta mining asteroid. Blue from maybe Andoria I don't know yet. The yellow from Drozana space. Don't go to DS9 or ESD for red since they are in space and you need to move around to follow them. Find a place to stay while they spawn around you.
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man i wish i could join the sdc looking back at all the salt they caused makes me sad i probably won't be able to join them
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>>166943378
Just say you're into animals and they'll let you in my reddit dude.
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>>166942496
clipper NEEDS gimballs in the side hardpoints
Use medium thermal, large kinetics. I never flew a clipper so I can't tailor shit but I'd use medium rails and two gimballed cannons because I have a boner for rails and cannons because ARMOR PIERCING and BURST DAMAGE

4SYS 0ENG 2WEP is your classic pip distribution when under fire because 4pips to SYS increases your shield strength by TWO POINT THREE EIGHT TIMES. you read that right, 2.38 times effective shields over 0 pips to SYS. Manage the rest as you need, i.e. ENG when maneuvering, WEP when firing... get some experience. Which brings me to my next point

DO NOT use the clipper as your first combat ship. Train on a smaller, less expensive ship first. Your hardpoint loadout should be similar: thermals in the smaller hardpoints, kinetics in the bigger ones. Why? because thermal weapons should be your primary anti shield DPS for PVE, and there is no bonus/penalty for damage to shields. there is damage penalty for small/medium/large weapons depending on what you're shooting at, because of armor piercing and hull hardness values

basically small suck against hulls that aren't sidewinders, eagles and the like, mediums kinda suck against hulls any bigger than small pad ships, and large kinda suck on large ships. Meanwhile, huge weapons are like LOL ARMOR PIERCING SUCK MY DICK especially cannons and plasmas. Fixed cannons actually deal more DPS than anything else in he same size bar railguns. The age of full MC gunboats is over. It's still a decent loadout, but no longer the best
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>>166941281
>two of the ugliest ships
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Heard Burst is now better than Beam. Any truth to this?
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star citizen is money milking ship store proof me wrong

>puts new ships
>everyone buy it "Im spending 10 grand to suport the developoment"
>waste ur $$$ on making designer commercials for new ships
>relase new ship
>everyone buy it
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>>166943731
Thanks! That was really helpful, gonna be fun trying the suggested loadout
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>>166944419
This thread is for Star Trek Online and Elite: Dangerous.

Starniggers aren't welcome here any more. Please take your goonposting back to DS's blog.
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>>166944528
oh yeah before attacking an enemy, check his combat rank and if he's in a wing.
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>>166943731
If you were to use turrets on the Clipper's side hardpoints, what weapon type would you use?
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>>166944419
now this is podracing
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>>166944419
*prove
*support
*development
*your
*design might be more appropriate here
*release
*buys

See me after class.
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>>166944660
>clipper
>turrets

no.
Use frag turrets on your trade fitted conda and watch the flak work if you want but turrets on anything that's not a trade fitted python, conda, T-series or cutter is fucktarded

you use gimbals.
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>>166944573
>mfw STO is actually accepted in the general, and way more people play it than I thought.
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>>166946012
Don't take this the wrong way but your female character is deformed. She's got ribs so thin you could play her like a xylophone. Her arms are like socks blowing in the wind in that webm.

Try moving the limb sliders in the character editer to the 80/100 mark, it's like an average default size that looks normal.
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>>166946012
The fuck is this shit, some Second Life mod?
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>>166941059
Which game is this wedge from I wonder
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>>166946273
SHE'S FASTING, OK.

I was trying to make her tiddys as big as possible and had a good laff in the character creator. I just never went back to make her look right.

>>166946386
No, I just went to the bridge and did an emote.
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>>166946650
Post your ship roster and dry dock.
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I've reached Petty Officer and a message saying I've been issued a permit for Sol, but I can't plot a course there on the map because it says no permit. Anyone know what to do? Googling hasn't turned anything up.
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>>166946650
That looks like garbage, why it's in the Star Citizen and Elite: Dangerous thread?
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>>166946898
cuz it's in space and we're spacefags
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>>166946987
The thread is called /scg/edg/, it's not a fucking trashcan for every remotely space shitgame ever, fuck off.
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>>166946898
>Star Citizen
>>>/out/
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This was the last post about Star Citizen >>166944419 yes a goon shitpost.

This was the 2nd last post about Star Citizen >>166927761 saying to edit a comic about Star Citizen's development being anything positive.

There's nothing to talk about, anyone who hasn't got a refund is probably hibernating until 2.6.1 and that discussion will last 2 weeks before dying until 2.6.2 and repeat, until 3.0 which is probably like 9 months away.

At this point it's E:D only and a few STO refugees who don't have a thread, but there are several space games discussed here sometimes, even included in the OP
>other games
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>>166941059
Filename.kek

>>166926393>>166926803>>166931127>>166927761
If you care, just changed things for the lulz
Not gonna mod it forever, there only so much you can write before it stop being funny

It's not like you were playing busy SC anyway...
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>>166946741
This is my main toon. Just a noob. I wish I had a bunch of ships. I got the T6 last year and named it when I got it. Was already in the T4 with the same name, that's why I added the J.

>>166946898
I've played about 200 out of the 2 hours or so of content in SC, and it was slowly driving me mad.

I've got about 275 hours in ED and was hearing the jump drive in my sleep when I stopped.

I've got over 325 hours in STO, and I've barely scratched the surface. All the nice lads here have been extremely helpful, and I would'nt even know to do omega farming if I hadn't posted about a week ago.
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>>166947710
Get your own thread then, simples.
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>>166947710
>All the nice lads here have been extremely helpful
I don't recall seeing anyone else helping you except me, but I might have missed them. I lurk these threads while doing other stuff.
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>>166947710
>those ship names
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>>166947710
Do you have a kdf? I used to prefer my fed, then after a few years tried my kdf and just prefer it.

Romulans get more boffs with "superior romulan operative" trait, so have inherently higher crth than feds or kdf so their DPS is higher.

Also if you're a tac you should use escorts and battleships not cruisers if you want the most DPS. But cruisers do look a lot cooler I admit (no pun intended on your breen shield). The T6 intel cruiser is my favourite.
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>>166947951
We like to have fun.

>>166948443
No, I was going to do a RomFed next because I heard the Klingon story and PvE is kinda lacking, although that's a noob's opinion.

>Also if you're a tac you should use escorts and battleships not cruisers if you want the most DPS.

I chose that ship because of the hangar module.

I was in a fleet for a while with a couple of dick wavers with high DPS ships and the whole XII to XIV grind was so annoying that I ignored it and made an AoY toon when that launched. I've been ignoring the fleet channel since I picked the game back up, and it has been a much better game.
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>>166949059
Yeah doing your own thing is probably going to be more enjoyable for you. You know the heavy escort carrier has a hangar too right? I think you can get a cool console too, micro torpedoes or point defence, you'd have to wiki it I'm not sure.

Just make a kdf toon and do the first few mission arcs, if you don't enjoy it just leave it? We get fewer ships but if you like birds of prey you're in luck.

Also the vo'quv carrier is gorgeous. I got the fleet version. The elite bop pets are kind of underwhelming, though.
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>>166949345
I was a little more tryhard until I got my first toon to 60 then stared into the abyss. This game is deep enough that funny ship names and ironic bridge and away teams are just as rewarding to me as being at the top of the combat log, although I do try to not be the carry.
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>>166854261
hey guys, what's the cheapest edition of star citizen I can buy that gets me access to director's mode?

I don't want to play the game yet, just fuck around with director's mode.
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>>166950440

Line of Defense
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>>166950218
I named my tac scimitar "George Zimmerman", and some libcuck attacked me for it, you know 'literally shaking', etc. I logged in once and the mods had renamed my ship 'name pending' so I had to rename it.

>>166950440
>director's mode?
What's that? Mod tools or spectating? Or making videos?

If you don't want to play the SP campaign you don't need Squadron 42 or any combo packages, just the cheapest starter pack, which is an aurora or mustang.

Use a referral code for some extra currency
STAR-R567-9C6D
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>>166950672
Mostly I get PMs from people laughing about my ship name, but that was a year ago when no one thought he had a chance. I was almost scared to bring it out.
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>>166950649
>>166950672
thanks mates
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>>166950878
I would go with LOD. Much more advanced game written by competent dev, renown for his professionalism and courtesy.
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This is my current away team. It was going to be all Klingon, but a Jem Hadar was too good to pass up.

Turns out that warrior races are a good pick for ground combat, these guys are way stronger than my main toon's rag tag fucktard team.
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>>166950672
reported for being a filthy kike, we have a code randomizer in the OP for this reason
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The hell is this shit? Second time I've found a anaconda with a sub 2000 bounty.
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>>166951012
I just want to use it to fuck around and make videos. What is LOD?
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>>166951497
Same. Except I have a Breen too.

I put 4 batleths on my away team, with a team buff skill on each of them, and lunge I, II, III. All they do is dropkick people and hit them with melee. It's quite useful. Also if you have any combat pets, or duplicate gadgets like shard of possibilities you can put them on your away team to use.
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They should add an in-game video player to ED to encourage the hardcore dad experience.
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>>166951497
>not naming the jem hadar Dino
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>>166952269
Ain't there already a video overlay in that rainmeter thingy?
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>>166952007
Did you know you don't need remodulators against the borg if you use melee? Apparently the borg can't adapt to those who have studied the blade.

>>166952326
I named him before I thought of the others. I may use some Zen to rename him Mr. Slate.
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>>166951721

That NPC was probably generated without a bounty. It's always a fun day when you get interdicted by an Annie and you only get a 200 CR reward for it... because the Annie had 0 bounty until it interdicted you.
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>>166952359
That's a VR desktop thing, isn't it?
Guess that will do if I ever go VR, thanks.
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>>166952326
nm, I just got the Dino joke. Definitely renaming him Dino.
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Why are ED devs listening to dads and not the real fans?
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>>166950878
No problem mate

>>166953536
Real fans = disgruntled and entitled people?
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>>166953673
>Real fans = disgruntled and entitled people?
We are not SC fans nor are we Dads so you missed the mark.
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>>166953536

Because a lot of people are stopping the memes and actually talking about the game i.e. it's actually fun.
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>>166953201
Actually you can put a simple video overlay with VLC.
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>>166953728
u wot
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>>166953536
You're asking why Ftroop listens to whales and not angsty college kids?
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>>166953731
Right now I'm using 3 screens so it's trivial enough keeping your player of choice always on top, but I didn't really know how VR works and I assumed the whole thing ran in full-screen leaving you fucked.
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>>166953673
your deflection angles are all wrong
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>charge FSD
>Pilot's Federation Promotion to Master
>deploy SRV
>Pilot's Federation Promotion to Master
what even
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Can you get ship cosmetic stuff by in-game methods in ED or is it all cash shop?
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>>166954724
Only rank decals.
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>>166954724

So you don't want to support the game? Wonder how they'll pay for that free online you get.
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>>166902208
Kek he looks like a sandnigger in that picture
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Do conflict zones count for rank in factions?
Is it better than missions?
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>>166958556
Only completing missions will advance your naval ranks. Completing CZ missions will help, but not fighting in the CZ itself.
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>>166953536
ED devs are the dads. The dads didn't make ED into what it is, they flocked to it because it's designed to be dadnip.
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>>166959769
>dadnip.
kek
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So I haven't played Elite in awhile and my only combat ship is an FDL with 4 beam lasers and a PA, how shit is that loadout now?
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>>166962486

Have you modded your ship?
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Wait a second, I just noticed a neutron star in the galaxy map, selected it and I actually saw it in the background as I was approaching it
Are stars you can see while in a system an actual representation of the stars surrounding it?
That's pretty neat.
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>>166963451

Yes. There's a lot of talent that goes unnoticed at FD due to fucking idiots like Sandro being at the head of how to design the actual gameplay.
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>>166962616
No engineers stuff at all, I've been out of the game since powerplay and thought the combat patch might make the game worth playing again. Everything internal is A-ranked off my old Robigo haul.
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>>166963859
That's how I always felt about Warthunder. So much potential in the underlying game, yet always brought down by lots of small stupid decisions that all add up
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how good is the fas for combat
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>>166963865

If you intend to PvP, you're going to get smoked. I've never flown a FDL before but you should be fine for PvE. Be aware though that a lot of enemies are much harder to kill now. Nearly all pirate or CZ ships are fitted with railguns and PAs that ignore heat and ammo restrictions. It's more challenging and requires you to pick your battles carefully so you don't get swarmed if you're in a weaker (read: non engineer'd) ship.
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Should I use a multicannon or a cannon on my diamondback explorer?
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>>166964246
Any good resources to learn about the new weapons or should I just lurk moar?
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Does Elite have ship transfers yet?
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>>166966740

yes!
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>>166966815
Finally. Thanks.
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Is there a way to tell which factions control which stations in ED? I have some bounties to pay off.
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>>166967114
Yes.
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newfag here, what the fuck is a dad. like a middle aged guy who takes the game way too seriously?
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Anyone got, like, a Passenger Missions 101? I hear it's a super good way of making money
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>>166967740
The dad meme aka cobradads aka forumdads comes from the vocal demographic of older men who are particularly staunch believer's in Braben's mystical powers. The tend to fail or refuse to progress past Cobras, claiming that they're the best ship in the game. They openly declaim against the addition of any new features that weren't in the original elite (or they don't think were in the original elite, most never played it), and get incredibly angry whenever anyone engages them in combat under circumstances that they didn't specifically ask for. Typical behavior includes:
>Accusing people who're unhappy with current features of having 'no imagination'
>Agressively rebuking anyone who suggests that guilds be included because "this isn't EVE"
>Acting as though spending more time playing the game than them is tantamount to cheating
>Claiming that ships that cost close to 200 times as much as their Cobras being able to dissolve their Cobras in less than 30 seconds in 'overpowered' (and successfully getting them nerfed)
>Claiming that piracy is griefing
>Claiming that PVP in conflict zones in griefing
>Claiming that blowing them up when they threaten you is griefing
>Crashing their brand new asp into a station without money for insurance and begging fdev to give it back to them on the forums
>Unironically referring to people as 'kid'
>having pictures of pets on HOTAS rigs as profile pictures
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>>166967740
/edg/'s preferred scapegoat for all problems they think are plagueing E:D
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>>166968061
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>>166968061
>having pictures of pets on HOTAS rigs as profile pictures
okay that explains it perfectly

>Crashing their brand new asp into a station without money for insurance and begging fdev to give it back to them on the forums
what
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>>166968061
Dads have moved from the Cobra to the Asp.
>>166968435
Dads beg a lot anytime their ships are destroyed
"THE ONLY WAY MY SHIP COULD HAVE BEEN DESTROYED IS A BUG"
You should have seen what happened on the forums when NPCs were buffed
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>>166968061
>>166968435
>having pictures of pets on HOTAS rigs as profile pictures

There is no way, they're exaggerating.

Pic related was on the first page google search of "dog on hotas" from the RSI forum. Why do they do this?
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>>166969134
you should see the elite dangerous community facebook group you want to know the definition of cancer
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>>166907881
I asked about it last thread but thread was deaded before I saw any answer. It's a picture I found on google. I just hope everything isn't made too pointy like the current trend.
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>>166969249
>The Elite: Dangerous Community is by, for and about mature Elite players & enthusiasts.
Someone with FB please screenshot it for us.
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>>166912825
that's one ugly semen demon
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>>166969486
ill look for some gold
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>>166969486
>>166969554
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>>166968435
F-fug...
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>>166969798
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>>166970240
The reputation/influence/whatever system is shit alright.
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>>166944360
lolwut
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>>166970240
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>>166969809
>>166969131
>>166878327
What's the deal with these drawings.
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>>166970416
it takes long to find stuff because everything is "oh i love exploring ,look who i ran into ,oh look at this weird planet"
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>>166951721
Shiettt, you can check bounties like that? Do you just literally lock on to them and go to contacts?
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>>166956428
With my 30 bucks.
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>>166970056
Look at me, I am the snek captain now
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>>166969798
>it's not PvP, it's a recruitment test
I'm stealing that.

>>166969809
>wants to work a job instead of do cool spess man stuff.
That's some high quality social conditioning right there.

>>166970461
All of this is gold.
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>>166968023
>>166968023
pls help
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>>166970565
Some chucklefucks on the forums probably commissioned them as a vanity project
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>>166970741
also most people are below python level of ships
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>>166971459
What's a python good for?
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>>166971459
How? I just put it about 100 hours back at launch and got an anaconda no problem. Found out right after that there was nothing else t0o do in the game and quite once powerplay came out.
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>>166971459
I don't get the aversion to the larger ships. Are they just scared of the grind and rationalize against it? Why would they spend hundreds of hours grinding trade and exploring to not have a conda as a goal?
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>>166971589
multi purpose

>>166971620
i have no clue i made it to asp level then found out my home system were handing out alot of high paying missions made 100 mil in 2 days
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>Elite Dangerous update 2.3 will soon allow you & 3 friends co-pilot interstellar spacecraft, with full support for VR & head/eye-tracking

Frontier once again blows the fuck out of CGI without having millions of shekels and a sycophantic fanbase.

Hey cultists, how it's feel waiting for a game to me made never while a better one already exists?
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Which elite ship is the best suited for 360 turret sheningans?

I'm preparing for the aircrft carrier builds once FDev allows multiple fighters
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>>166972551
I was about to respond seriously to this post but I just want to let you, yes you know that he is a shit and trying to divide us. but he won't.
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>>166971875
>Are they just scared of the grind and rationalize against it?

>grind

I got an Anaconda within maybe 5 hours total of CZ grinding.

>waah I work 80 hour weeks

so do I. not including whatever I decide to work overtime.

git fucking gud.
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>>166972874

Turrets are pretty shit but I believe the Annie has excellent turret coverage if that's what you're going for. I believe the Vette has too, no idea about the Cutter.

I love carriers and I'm praying every night that Frontier releases a dedicated carrier with boosts to turret damage but if Elite has taught me anything, it's to expect nothing from FD.
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>>166974360
>Carriers
>Kill thargoid ships
>salvage
>Craft ayylium fighters for your NPCs to fly
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>>166974360
>>166974674
>fdev allows to launch multiple fighters at once
>make the heaviest armoured type 9 spamming fighters left and right

literally easiest way to increase playerbase
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>>166973212
Not him but I don't see why we don't go back to being /edg/

There's no Star Citizen discussion here anymore and it's just a shitposting magnet.
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>>166974219
This is bait yeah?
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can we get a standalone /scg/ seperate from /edg/? it's a retarded clusterfuck having both games in here.
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>>166975350
try it next thread and see what happens
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Ive been in a metallic ring for nearly an hour now and I havent mined any osmium
what gives?
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>>166975904
I need help bros im getting pissed
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>mfw reading TZ Arietis' Description in the Galaxy view

someone at FDev has a sense of humor, it seems.
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the grind to duke was fine

I can't take any more of this one though
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>>166975538
No, because neither game has a big enough community to stay alive on /vg/ without dying
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>>166914359
Its not a sandbox if there is no sand faggot
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so how do I grind fed rank now? I'm sitting at 100% Cadet but I'm not sure what triggers ranking up. I'm not seeing any missions on the board for it.
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>>166978475
keep doing the same thing you were doing, rank progresses even if you don't rank up, so you aren't losing out.

The rank missions pop up eventually, they tend to be pretty rare. Just do them when they pop up.
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>>166977418
It's time to get a time machine and go to robigo.
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>>166979615
I just wanna go to founders world
is that too much to ask
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>>166981743
Get Elite in either Trade or Combat.
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Anyone know any locations with guaranteed black markets? I need to sell shit to 5 of them but every place I go to that I look up online that says it has one doesn't actually have one or it's inactive or something
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fucking cracking industrial firmware REEEEEEEE
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Anyone knows if Sothis run still work?
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>>166981743
Do sight seeing passenger missions. They count towards explorer rank and the grind to Elite takes only about 150M exploration spacebux.
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>>166975904
I tried mining once. Never again. I enjoy the game generally but mining was so boring I felt like I might as well go back to work and earn real money than spend time on that shit.
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>>166983524
Pretty sure Zaragas does, if not definitely one of the systems around there.
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>>166964576
Depends on what you're using it for but I'd go multicannon personally, they are better all round but do less damage. You can only hit something with the cannon if the target is big, slow, or if you can manoeuvrer right up close to them.
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>>166970989
Fill up your ship with economy class cabins and find two systems in the middle of nowhere with passenger lounge. Then go back and forth between the two ferrying people stacking missions from each. Apparently HIP 10716 and Wu Guinagi are pretty good for this.
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>>166984816

never again
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o7
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>>166987348
Wow, what a fag

I'm not even Derek Smart
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>>166987348
this guy is a huge fag but he does have a point, look at the subreddit (and reddit is a better metric for this) and theorycrafting about the future has been reduced to 20% tops of the front page market share, by far most of the content is screenshots and videos from gameplay, discussion of the current build, lesser known ways to optimise your ship, etc.

the only reason theorycraft is such a big percentage of this general is the wild flights of shitposting and argument on single topics it inspires.

basically, we've passed the point where the game is more real than not real, however much may be promised and not yet delivered, we have something worth playing regularly right now.
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>>166987348
Wulf is such an egotistical fag
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multicrew srv when

are there going to be any new planet features like the rumored caves?
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>>166971875
I find the larger shops boring to fly. Too slow, turn poorly. Only large ship it have is a clipper. Most expensive is an fdl. Plus some other assorted small ships for fun. All A-rated, working on engineering them.
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>>166992745
Apparently there was a issue with procedurally generating caves and all such areas are going to have to be hand-made
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[eurobeat intensifies]
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can someone please post me the sc copy pasta?
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>>166995998
which one?
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Would have been fun if we got Trump to expell DS from the States for planning a terrorist attack, now that everyone in his administration is so touchy.
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>ppl ITT thinking 3.0 will come out any soon
>that the netcode will be fixed

HAHAHAHHA
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>>166975350
Do it faggot
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>>166994437

I moved up to a Python but I still fly it like a diamondback when docking

It's going to get me killed one of these days
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>>166998407
in the picture I'm actually strafe drifting in FAOFF a trade fitted anaconda with D rated CLEAN DRIVES through the slot

GOML
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Massacre missions are back.

No conflict zones - still civil unrest.
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The patch they were working on, to fix network ordering to reduce latency and increase the potential number of clients is listed as complete, according to someone on reddit.
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Can anyone tell me if Horizons is worth it yet for a player that got bored in OG release? 30 bucks still feels a little high for more fetch quests and landing on moons
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>>167000021

Wait for a sale on steam. I got it 50% off on the christmas sale.
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>>167000075
Thanks anon. I saw that sale and almost jumped on it but my common sense was working then. I'm feeling my addict's itch lately to come back
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>>167000021
i'd wait for season 2 to come out and they give horizons out for free
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>>167000021
wait till they start dishing out information about 2.3 (carrier anon might get his 3 wingman fighter wing too) and then decide if you want to get it on sale or not
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>>166998628
keep us posted
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>>167002691

Logged in to check again.

Now the missions disappeared and New 17 is asking for donations to deal with civil unrest.

I assume we need both The Order and New 17 in civil unrest in order for civil war to trigger? How exactly does this work?
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>>166999950
The 2.6.1 changes was only network culling, which is basic bitch tech that should have been in since 2.0
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>>167002973
no idea m8
I just wanna know when both missions and CZs reappear
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>>167002973
At least if they want donations I can improve my rep with them again easily. I took out 20 missions just before the war ended and when I failed them all it went back down to neutral from allied.
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>>166975904
pick system with major/pristine system reserve for a better chance of high-end ore
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So whens the next cap ship concept sale?
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Do you still need to remove all modules before selling a ship to lower the loss of 10%?
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>>166968023
Become allied with 3-4 factions in a system. Preferable a system with many Fed/Empire factions. Flip the board till you see missions with payouts of 8-14mil that keep you within the bubble and have you only visiting 3-4 places.
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Information Service : this picture >>167006962 is not from Star Citizen or Elite:Dangerous

Just saying
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So what happened?

All Star Citizen talk has gone into hibernation until 3.0 releases?
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Im sure happy that Elite is online only. Fly 40k ls just to get back at the sun again.
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>>167011142
Probably an Eagle took it up and dropped it to snap its bones.
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>>167011273
jump to the next system and back
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>>167011596
I was flying to the station. Disconnected and got thrown back at the sun spawn.
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>>167011142
I shouldn't be telling you this but this is because of a Chris Robert secret order for backers. The truth is...

I preemptively typed the captcha before the men in black arrived ! aha
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>>166987348

I am heavily invested in Star Citizen, and even I think this is the one of the gayest fucking things I've seen from this community.
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>>167011889
That's mad fucked anon.
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>>166987348

What the fuck is this guy doing?

This gotta be a joke.

1. DS has never been close to being right about anything. He havent even been close to money or respect in any regard either.

2. Why waste time writing something so cringe worthy and lame?

It's gonna make me sick if this is genuine.
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>>167012790
Am I the only one to look forward Derek reaction to 3.0 ?
(or eventually the release)
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>>167013167
I think it will be fun. He has gone banans on every release that gives us something he deems impossible.

I think he sucks at seeing other people manage to do what he is incapable off. I think it irritates him endlessly.
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>>167012790
DS have been close to money, but that was because he sued his company over something I won't bother googling again (his old game)
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>>167013626
>Close because he tried to sue.

Didnt the court shut him down instantly by just telling him to fuck off which is what everybody tells him to?
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>>167013280
I wish 3.0 instancing support a lot of people and by lot I mean more players than Line of Defense ever had.

Because then it would be the bingo of everything DS claimed impossible
- Entire planets to land one
- Load on Demand in a system without transition
- And more than 20players at once

I know, I know, he have already been ridiculed by the video, but we are talking of something he'll be able to play in Freefly weeks (if he didn't backed the game again unironically)
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And the votes... ARE IN!

It looks like the overall prediction has shifted from "will never come out" to "will be minimum viable product"!

Will their hateboner ever go down?

Find out next weeks!
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any new CZ locations to replace 17 Draconis? I've checked out a few areas with civil wars, but none spawned very many missions
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>>167015152
There's been a poll on the RSI forums?
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>>167015152
Extreme excitement in the shitpost dome tonight Mitch!
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>>167015294
Most of those options could be legitimately taken as hopeful good ending, how come?
Don't SA stand for Something Awful?
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>>167016584
Dunno but they're still fun
The gold mine is open again
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>>167015294
How autistic do you have to be to form a movement against a game?
That's next level autism.
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>>167017221
That's why containment boards such as SA exist.
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>>167017221
wow u must be mad or something

it's not sad (she's posting right now but that's a coincidence)
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>>167016923
The release of item 2.0 will also be important to drive home cohesive gameplay.

I think a big step will be reached if you actually have to control the pressurization of your ship and cargo bay
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>>167008703
Yep. When you sell a ship, you lose 10% on everything included in the sale. Ideally, only your ship.
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>>167017554
>item 2.0
They spent like 2 years doing and re-doing damage states. That poor artist who had to keep doing it. Then they scrapped all his work and showed a demo of hull being melted with that gun, it looked cool as fuck. Then 6 months to a year later (I can't remember) I heard CR say that it's being re-done again.
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>>167016923
How is "fake progress" discernable from "progress" if we're talking about playable shit?
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>firing 8 Overcharged Incendiary Multi-cannons at once
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17 Draconis: Civil War is now Pending.

Jet Bridge Inc vs New 17 Draconis Alliance.
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>>167021661
Farmship Drive Charging.
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>>167020973
It'd be rad if your ship became lighter the more ammunition you expended.
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>>167022321

Not sure how long it'll take to roll over.

Also what side do we side with? Both control 49%, and Jet Bridge controls the station.
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>>167023331
They're both feds and I'm already allied with new 17 dracs, so I'll fight for them.
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Exquisite focus crystals. Are there particular system types that they spawn in? Yet to find any missions giving them out as a reward.
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>>167023480

Stupid question, but: I assume killing someone's ships lowers your rep with them? Otherwise I will totally be playing both sides of this.
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>>167021661
I'm erect.
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>>167021661
oh man when will 17 draconis be ready again? tomorrow? thursday?
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>>167023910

Based on how quick this has been, maybe tomorrow? I'm not sure when the "states" refresh.
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>>167021661
Can players do something with that BGS thing to speed up this shit?
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Seems we're going to have to work with Jet Bridge.

If new 17 takes control, the station enters lockdown. No more missions for a while.
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>>167023757
Massacre missions during a civil war doesn't for some reason. Killing ships for bounties allied with that faction does though.
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>>167024336
fug
Are they currently offering donation missions?
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>>167024601

One at a time, but then I complete it and refresh by swapping instances and there's another.
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>>166915314

Thats a python ship isn't it?

How the fuck do you bail off, lets say, a player bounty hunter in a viper mark III with A-junk and engineer crap after you commit a crime? Dont faster ships always interdict you in that game?

Also what really happens after you lose one ship? Is there insurance or any money account penalties?
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>>167025774
Pay some insurance money
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>>166975350

Star citizen will take a few more years to complete but it will sure as hell fuck EvE and E:D. Some old fags will remain ofc... too much time invested already.

I wont play it though. Il just wait until the later turn to F2P. Shit will be lulz.
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>>166975350
DO IT.

We can let SC back in when they get 3.0
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>>167026269
>Wait until F2P

It's already free to play, all you need is a $30 starter ship.
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>>167026815
>>166975350

Delusional. Nobody cares about E:D. You're just light entertainment and a sad circus of dev failure.
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>>167027127
o7 Shitizen
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>>167014728
I guarantee he's backed the game unironically. Secretly, of course.
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>>167025774
Any ship can interdict another in supercruise. The Python outweighs the Viper, so it can't masslock you in normal space, which means you can charge FSD at full speed to low/high wake out of there.

And yeah, rebuy cost is 5% of your current ship's value.
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wow i've never seen the elite side of this thread so active

makes me happy
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>>167028173

I'm posting a lot because I got the game on christmas sale and bought an X56.

The full experience of game + proper HOTAS is fucking incredible. I'm actually tempted to get a VR headset to go all in.
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>>167028173
E:D got a population spike recently
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>>167028173
the news of aliens got people to look at this game again.

also a lot of people who used to post about elite left when SC took over and made it practically impossible to have a conversation about elite in the thread
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>>167028375
I went triplewide a month ago and it's pretty amazing. Went back to one though because I'm a filthy framerate whore who needs 120 FPS.
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>>167016584
so when 3.0 releases, will all the current moons in Crusader be landable? even if there weren't any new planets, that would be a ton of shit to explore
>but it's all procedural you fag
still cool, and the ability to have running dogfights across the surface of a moon and inside crates will vastly add do my enjoyment of the game, and you know they're gonna litter crashed ships and shit across the surfaces, and almost certainly give us the Ursa and Dragonfly to rip around with.
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>>167028624
Hopefully this momentum carries on until 2.3. It's nice to actually be able to discuss the game here.
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>>167028685
>inside crates
craters
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>>167028668

That's my one holdup. I don't know if I could sacrifice my 144FPS for VR - since I'd be getting half that, if not less. (980ti graphics card)
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>>167028748
Agreed, also i'm hoping that fdev stops fucking up

they just got a huge influx of players, now try and keep them interested.
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>>167028748
>It's nice to actually be able to discuss the game here.
You always can. Don't let SC shitposters deter you.

You ED posters just keep to yourselves and don't bother anyone.
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>>167028748
>>167028901
Guys, it's just a fucking cutscene. One fucking cutscene. They didn't add aliens to the game, they added a cutscene. It's fucking nothing. There is no momentum to speak of.

Oh, and nobody prevented you from discussing ED. I see discussion all the time here. SC-related shitposting just drowns it most of the time.
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>>167028901
Yeah they almost fucked up with the ruins. Second one we found was exactly the same, luckily the third was actually different. But it's that kind of disappointment in the game's stories that demotivates me from playing the game.
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>>167029254
Momentum in the levels of interest in the game. The alien discovery even hit mainstream news sites for some reason.

Yeah nobody did, but there weren't enough players here do make ED discussions worth having.
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>>167028510
Why? Was there a sale?
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I'm nearing 200MCr in assets and I'm considering buying a Anaconda. But, I obviously don't have enough money to completely outfit it, so what will I be able to do with it?

I'm currently bulk trading in a Type-9 and I also have a Asp Explorer for exploration and passenger missions.
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>>167030121
Explore, haul goods with task kill button.
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>>167028861
VR isn't that good for actual gaming yet, the pixel density is still too bad for reading text reliably or looking at distant targets.
Like I can post on here but playing any game with long distances is fucked.
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>>167030121
don't get an anaconda until you can afford to A-rate it and full kit it out.

You're seriously better off with any other ship until then.
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>>167030217
But isn't a Type-9 better at trading?
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>>167030326
Of course not.
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>>167030397
It has a bigger cargo hold.
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I wonder will there be a new ship in 2.3.

Panther Clipper.
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>>167030397
it is if you can't afford the FSD and other stuff for the conda

also if you fuck up and lose your t9 it's way cheaper
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>>167029837
New content and people are starved for a spess game.
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>>167030506
>Dolphin
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>>167030536
>people are starved for a spess game.
What about Star Citi-
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>just made a remote drilling drone to mine ice to provide oxygen and fuel for my EVA pack

Name that space game
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More like people are starved for any game. We're in a game drought.
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>>167031853
Which jpg can I do those things in?
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>>167029837
A shitload of people bought NMS, hated it, then went to ED because SC isn't out and there's nothing else. Essentially the same reason I'm playing E:D now, but I didn't buy NMS because it had "irredeemable fucking mess" written all over it.
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>>167031853
Space engineers ?
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>>167032196
I remember when ED was nothing but a dogfight module, in an asteroid field like that. do fights in places like that still happen? I don't play, but it seems like you only get attacked by NPCs in the middle of nowhere, and the only pvp vids I've seen likewise are out in open empty space.
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>>167027127

Bunchin up on ya?
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Freespace 3 almost existed. DS almost bought the rights to it, but a bunch of autists insulted him and said they hope he didn't get to make a Freespace game. So he decided not to, out of spite. Then skip forward a few years, he tried to buy the license again but the owner made him sign an NDA not to disclose the amount he was asking for, and DS says the amount is way too much to buy it. 'Considerably more' than a few hundred thousand dollars.
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hey im facebook anon i found some a thing
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>>167032404
Well that was taken when I was about 14k LY out of inhabited space, so fuck all was happening there. There's ice ring mining now, so if you happen upon a RES in an ice ring, there will be plenty of NPCs duking it out. Pirates harassing miners, security harassing pirates, (Unless it's a HazRES) and if there's a community goal going on for bounties in system, a bunch of players making cash.
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>>167032196
Resource extraction sites in planets' rings (asteroid belts) are the preferred place to do bounty hunting.
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>>167032961
No one can be that fucking stupid.
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>>167033339
>asks for help
>gets insulted
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>>167033339
you would be surprised
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>>167033406
in sidie with dumb fires gets annihilated by anti air do it over and over again guys halp
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>>167033406
>hey guys why can't I attack this installation with no repercussions

There's being inexperienced and then there's being straight up stupid. This is the latter. The game flashes warnings telling you exactly what is happening when you trespass for fucks sake.
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>>167033774
so he was getting warnings from the faction he was attacking and was just like "oh looks like the game is telling me to stop doing the thing"? lol retard should go back to skyrim.
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>>167032198
Yes
Seems pretty sweet so far, so many gadgets
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I'm doing a passenger mission, these fags I'm carrying are total pussies and got scared after a crash so they are "miserable" now apparently.
Any way I can increase their level back to happy? the ship is all repaired now.
Also, will this affect my payout?
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>>167037736
NO BUT ONE MORE FUCK UP AND THERE GONE
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>>167032965

Is that a skin that's for sale currently, or is that the Black Friday bullshit
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>>167037953
And what are they going to do, jump out the ship? I'm in the middle of fucking nowhere.
I swear to god I'm crashing this ship into a star with no survivors if that ever happens.
Regarding that, what happens with my exploration data if I die? lost forever?
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>copy pasta ruins
>spelling mistakes everywhere
>buggy implementation for open/pg
>logout / login gameplay

Wow they really put like no effort into this, did they?
>>
SC:
NEWEST JPEG SELL WILL BE A NEW SHIP CALLED:
"HURRICANE"
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>>167038780

Does completing the newer ones give you the 100m yet?
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>>167038469
well they will ask to drop them off but if you don't you lose that cabin as they blast themselves into space
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>>167038876
By Anvil, yeah
Stop posting hosed up old poopoo
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I didn't see this linked https://youtu.be/fK5EAB8gwJM

CIG is starting a new community based show highlights include Jared's new haircut and for some reason they put Ben on camera again.
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is enemy starfighter/hotds allowed here

for something so rather short i was quite drawn into the setting and atmosphere. big dune vibes, especially with the Dragon difficulty text. the missions can be pretty taxing on higher difficulties and i imagine i'll have more to do in it for some time
>>
Is the Dropship any good?
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>>167040018
I fucking love this game's aesthetic and the way the mission descriptions are written like holy text, but it's crying out for a custom mission creator so bad
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>>167039630
>but UP NEXT
>using an "UP NEXT" bumper implies the conjunction.

The memes are real. CIG's PR department are the most incompetent people on the planet.
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>>167040018
If discussion for both SC and ED die down I think a spaceflight general is possible. HotDS is the closest to my dream game of a space sim set in the Homeworld universe.
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>>167040364
someone had a bad breakfast
huh?
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>>167040510
fucking THIS
I want to pilot a Turanic missile vette someday
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>>167040510
>spaceflight general
Not a bad idea actually, if any game gets big enough a new gen for it can always be started.
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>>167040254
i was pretty taken aback by the course of the story once i finally got the warp-out key to finally work reliably enabling me to actually stick my face into the game. boy oh boy do i revel in the thought of playing it at some point with a HMD, like elite.

the artstyle is indeed fucking jawdropping. can't clamor for very much more out of the title as i'm nowhere near having cleared everything there. pretty sure that the Gap Drive and its reset module are the key to beating the Dragon missions, though. i thought it'd have been as simple as that and the blunderbuss secondary but i got my ass kicked trying that against a shielded opponent that could keep some pace from me. there's value in specializing the loadout for the circumstances of each scenario, for sure.

dat fukken gap drive doe

definitely need more screenshots
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>>167040364
It's like saying "mfw when...".
A bumper is an image or animation, usually with text, that separates segments of a show. The entire bumper is a conjugation for segments of a show. It should have just said "UP NEXT", the fact that they cut away from showing people to show a graphic was the "but".
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>>167040606
meant >>167041126 for you.
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>>167040114
It's kinda shit. Wait for the FAS if you want to kill shit dead. It does make for an alright ghetto combat/trade Python but with the drawback of shit range. You can fix that with engineers.
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>>167041260
>>167041130
Fuck me I gotta pick this game back up
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>>167041260
Of all the Homeworld-y parts of HotDS, this was the most Homeworld
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>>167041265
Part of me wants the Gunship for maximum dakka

I've also never done anything with Engineers and would have no idea what to do
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>>167038946
IC 2391 Sector ZE-A D101 doesn't give enough, and the site in IC 2391 SECTOR GW-V B2-4 doesn't work at all
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gonna drop the difficulty texts because they make me harder than a fucking diamond
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who /most obnoxious ship kit combination possible + pink lasers/ here?
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>>167041260
>ASSASSINATE THE FALSE KING

I don't know what this is but it gets me turgid

I should play this
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>>167042119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56fCuO7JEy4
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>>167041597
Felicity Farseer is one of the first engineers you unlock. A very lucky roll on G5 increased FSD range could bring a combat/trade dropship from 13ly to 20ly. Gunship is pretty cool and with the three mil slots it now has it becomes obscenely hulltanky + it can hold a fighter.
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>yfw the "hurricane" is a smaller ship than a hornet and not a connie-sized ship worthy of such a powerful name
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>>167042301
It's probably the other space bike.
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i stand by the assertion that this one is indeed Dune as hell.
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>>167042261
Oh my lord this looks fucking phenomenal

Also
>these difficulty texts
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How do I git gud with flight-assist off?
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>>167042740
fly delicately, and be aware of overshoot with your maneuvering thrusters. manipulate your reverse throttle axis readily and utilize the blue zone even in this mode.
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>>167042740
Turn it off and on as you need it. Keep your throttle in the blue.
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E:D's FAoff should function like HotDS's drift system. It would make smaller ships more fun.
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>>167042261
Does this game support HOTAS? a quick google search gave me mixed results, and probably outdated.
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>tfw can't get X52 to work with Diaspora

I just want to be a Viper pilot
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>>167043117
Works fine with my setup.
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>>167043117
it's certainly not intended for HOTAS according to the developer and while i'm a bigass goddamn stick and throttle junkie i can't see myself enjoying it any more were i to stray from KB&M for it.

>when u order the fleet 2 cover u 'cuz dis bitch 'bout 2 get bombed
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has ED gotten cargo storage yet?
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>>167044361
Never because allowing you to play space stock market is against the Vision™. Engineers no longer require commodities though.
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I just bought and decked out a Vulture. Is there any reason I should keep my Cobra?
Ie. is there anything a Cobra would do better?
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>>167044590
I keep hearing people say that commodities will return once commodity storage is introduced. The tone of "gather ye modifications while ye may" kinda makes me nervous.

That and idiots on the gulag argue for the return of commodities for some assbackwards reason.
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>>167044746
Cobra is faster, can carry more cargo (though the Vulture can carry almost as much if you're willing to use class 4 shields), and has longer jump range. That's about it. If you want to do any killing, the Vulture and its large hardpoints are far superior.
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>>167044984
Forumdads are so fucking retarded jesus christ. If Fdev is going to bring commodity storage, it's going to be only for engineer commodities and they can't be sold back onto the market. Which is fucking stupid.
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>>167045019
My next purchase is probably going to be an Imperial Courier, cause I dig the looks.
Would that be better than the Cobra, in all the ways the Cobra is better than the Vulture?

Meaning I have the Vulture for fights and I can store just as much, I'm fine with class 4 shields when running cargo.
So, the only thing is jump range, does the Imperial Courier beat out the Cobra?
And how's it's cargo space?
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>>167045327
Courier is stupidly fast and maneuverable since it can mount 3A enhanced performance thrusters and can be engineered to go even faster. Its shields are stupidly powerful for its size. You could use it for passenger missions since its monster shields means that passengers won't get upset from hull damage. However, isn't very good at holding cargo though since it carries less and cargo weighs it down. Jump range is smaller too. But goddamn, it's my favorite ship to fly.
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last one, promise.
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I'm a bit confused with the Elite trading rank.

I spent about 20 hours, give or take, exploring / sightseeing mission which netted me ~80MCr. This pushed me to pioneer, a bit over 20%, which is the rank just under Elite. According to the wiki I need 150MCr earned by exploration which I could easily reach with another 20 hours, probably less.

Trading however... over 1 billion credits is required to reach Elite. With my current trade route I make ~14,000 cr/ton/hour. That's about 7,280,000 per hour in a Type-9 with 520 cargo space.

If I farm that trade route, I would have to do it for nearly 140 hours to reach trade rank Elite.

Am I missing something? 40 vs 140 hours doesn't seem that balanced.
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>>167046012
Explorer rank is balanced around no sightseeing missions. Don't let Fdev know though. I'm planning on getting Elite rank that way.
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>>167044590

So I can sell my commodities now? No use for them unless they get re-added in the future?
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>>167045978
Ok, so I'll have my;

>Eagle
for dicking around
>Vulture
for fights and cargo runs
>Imperial Courier
for passengers

Are you sure the IC's jump range is smaller than the Cobra's?
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>>167046382
They currently have no use except for trade profit and Engineer unlock requirements. Their selling prices increased to encourage players to sell them off.
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Anyone got a good passenger loadout for around 100-110mil? Gonna start ferrying people around
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>>167046695
It's about 20ish against the Cobra's 22ly. You can increase it with engineers. Mine is 30ly because I engineered my courier to have longer range and lighter equipment.
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>>167046868
You can get an Orca for that much. If you want to go out of the bubble an AspX is half as much.
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>>167046012
>That's about 7,280,000 per hour in a Type-9 with 520 cargo space
The fuck route are you taking
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Fuck off with the spamming other games to further dilute the general. It'd bad enough that we always have to distinguish between two games when some asks a question, this other shit you're trying to shill is neither related to SC or ED in anyway nor are the games anything like them. EVE is set in space too, do you plan to spam that next?

Either make you own general, or go to /v/ every space game in the world does get to just hop in and piggyback here. Half the reasons the general is dying is that people don't want to wade through multiple conversations about wildly different topics.

SC and ED share a theme, to a large extent share a player base and to a lesser extent share gameplay, doing a joint general makes some sense for reasons of keeping both threads alive and for reasons of comparison between two developing games. They've been side by side for their entire development. These other titles have not and do not belong here.
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There's no way to buy/sell/trade with other players in ED, right?
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Supposedly next concept sale is the Anvil Hurricane, which is a relatively low tech fighter with multiple small gun mounts and minimal electronic frills.

Have they released any concept art at all that I missed? Anyone got anything?
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>>167049412

no(t yet), besides the basic trust-based "drop me five gold and I'll drop you 2 modular terminals", which you'll

1) have to arrange and do manually
2) have to worry about scamming

tl;dr no
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>>167050183
>modular terminals
I meant components and stuff, but on the other hand you can't craft them yourself or even have them "outside the ship" now that I think about it.
Disregard that, I suck cock.
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>>167049393
>Half the reasons the general is dying is that people don't want to wade through multiple conversations about wildly different topics.
You made that up.
Every general has people having bubble conversations. I understand your point, but you made that up.
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>>167050519
>outside the ship
By that I meant in your ship's cargo bay, not on the station.
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Why isn't ship transfer available at Farseer's base? Is it just disabled at engie places to make us go there ourselves, or can I blame UA shenanigans?
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>>167051707
Ship transfer needs a shipyard. Go to a nearby station with a shipyard.
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>>167051752

...clever girl
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>>167049393
This general would be much livelier if it was changed to /space games not big enough for their general/. There's a mobile game general for games not big enough for their own general as well as dedicated generals for GBF, FGO, etc. There's a fighting game general but also a general for Blazblue, Lab Zero, etc. A space flight general would be no different. It would be better and healthier since the SC complaining and shitposting would be dispersed by people actually talking about games.
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>>167052186
if that happened /scg/ would remain distinct, we're at a point where we can mostly sustain ourselves with newcomers and odd patches and drama
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so how long before robigo stops working again? I wanna go tomorrow and just finish off my elite rank in trading.
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>>167052186
Then go make that general.
I for one do not care about "Liveliness" in the general for my alpha game. I care that its is /scg/ and that it is alive, hence the alliance with a very similar game, /edg/. I personally cant stand E:D and will bear an eternal grudge against E:D shills for the endless shilling and shitposting in early /scg/ but the alliance of convenience is necessary evil for now, when it isn't we will split back up. Making it into /gamesinspace/ is not a necessary evil, it is un-needed and would making the thread into a tangled unreadable mess.

you merge generals because you have to, not because it's a good thing to do, everytime you do it every general involved loses a bit of its identity and with that some of its traffic. Two generals together keep the thread alive while losing only a little bit in terms of game specific information and attention. Conglomerate generals on the other hand are always unreadable useless briar patches where you might have to read a dozen posts before you realize you're not even talking about the same game.
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>>167049393
>>167052731

>politely inquire if it's allowed, even if i didn't really care
>post some stuff regarding the game because people proved halfway interested, talk about why i like a game with similar dogfighting principles to ED and SC
>hours after the fact you come in and bitch that something else tangentially related was being discussed

lol

get antagonized you fucking nerd
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>>167043117
yeah works fine with my hotas
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>>167049393
lol get outta here you fuckstick

I'm gonna start talking about Diaspora just to make you mad
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>>167052731
>Then go make that general.
When we hit bumplimit. SC could get its own general too but I doubt it will last long. SC "discussion" has been light lately.
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>>167040114
it's a pretty big meme right now in pvp circles.

the ship is ridiculously easy to fly in flight assist off which makes it 10x more maneuverable than it has any right to be. Its hull tank is fucking stupid and you can slap on 4 multicannons on it so whatever it kills shit.
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>>167052795
You politely inquire about a settled rule (this is /scg/edg/, things not related to SCG and EDG are off topic, welcome to 4chan I assume this is your first day) and then proceed to spam the shit out of unrelated screenshots and other stuff, like 50 posts worth, dominating the entire general for several hours with your off topic.

Its not tangentially related, It is not related at all, it is a completely different game, made by different developers from a different time period, just like the STO shit the other day.

It is white noise in a general that already has a problem with signal ratio. This general is about Star Citizen and Elite: Dangerous it is not about "space games" or "games set in vacuum" or "games with spaceships in them"

>People proved half interested.
You were like 80% of the posts in the general, I went through and flagged every post related and it turned a massive section of the general into "post hidden"
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>I personally cant stand E:D and will bear an eternal grudge against E:D shills for the endless shilling and shitposting in early /scg/ but the alliance of convenience is necessary evil for now, when it isn't we will split back up
>you merge generals because you have to, not because it's a good thing to do, everytime you do it every general involved loses a bit of its identity and with that some of its traffic

You take this way too far. Also fuck right off with your shit, E:D is getting a little more traffic but a few weeks ago and even up to a month ago this general was nothing but SC discussion. Did people give a shit about /scg/ constantly posting about Sandi or whatever dumb shit Smart is spouting now or anything like that? Other than the occasional split shitposter, no we didn't, and still don't, give a shit. Mostly because most of us aren't autismal fuckboys with superiority complexes.

And just to trigger your stupid fucking ass, Starsector's big update can be expected in Februrary or March. Will include new factions and modding tools, as well as mechanics like ship dismemberment.
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>>167053151
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>>167053151
who upset you?
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>>167053193
I am not complaining about E:D discussion in E:D general. That's right in the title and it's been that way for months. Like I said I personally don't Like E:D and and the shittery that went on when E:D and SC were both new is part of the reason. However I am in no way trying to split up that the binary general, it works, for now. When either SC or E:D is big enough to sustain its own general full time we'll split back up.

I reiterate, E:D posting is on topic and I am not complaining, I am objecting to other non-general games being shilled in here in an attempt to piggyback a game that like two people play onto this general.
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>>167052992
>I'm gonna start talking about Diaspora just to make you mad

Oh is this the BSG mod to free space? Does this work well with hotas? I wanna give this a shot so badly. Is the MP scene for it still active?
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>>167053510
>shilling
>talking about something that legitimately engrossed me into the setting and how cool some of the flavor text was in an otherwise rather spartan-in-artstyle looking game

i think you're mad that fucking flavor text in a twenty dollar game blows the everloving shit out of anything even hinted at being added in SC with regards to how simply fucking cool it is

triple elite and RSI polaris, cunt. i can talk about whatever the fuck i want
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>>167049393
>>167053151
Fuck off retard people enjoyed having a look at another game for five minutes.

It's not like these generals are fast whatsoever.
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I guess we're gonna have to come up with a new OP template for /sgg/ spess games general. And then post it once we hit the bump limit.
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>>167054120
Why? Everyone was done until he came in late to get fucking triggered by a finished conversation.
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>>167054187
Then rename the OP to /sgg/ or something to get this branding over and done with.
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or we could just not care about what two autists write in the thread and go about business as usual
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Can you still access the shipyard if a system is on lockdown?
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do we have an updated (2.2) list of engie recipies?
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This is definitely a long shot but you guys are my only hope.

I'm trying to get back into X3 Albion Prelude, but unfortunately it's been damn near 4 years since I last played the game. I'm wanting to mod it with XRM and various other things like I did back then, but unfortunately Egosofts modding forum has been taken over by people modding Lithcube's overhaul (which I decided to try since it offered the path of least resistance but unfortunately I'm not a fan) so I've been trying to find the pastebin for the old X General /vg/ had after disappointment X Rebirth reignited peoples desires to play a good X game.
Anyway, the archives don't seem to go back to 2013/2014 when the general was active, so I was hoping someone here might have it bookmarked. If any of you do please share it, it was one of the best sources of info for modding the game collected in one place.
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>>167057054
X is shit.
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>>167056771
http://inara.cz/galaxy-blueprints
They haven't been updated for 2.2.03. Eg: efficient beams but they should be the same as efficient bursts etc. No more commodities required.

>>167055062
Usually, no.

>>167057054
Check back again in 10ish hours.
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>>167052612
Shouldn't be long. Just go to one of the other fringe systems for grinding if you need it.
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>>167058559
>http://inara.cz/galaxy-blueprints

Still lists commodities as required, not updated in the slightest.

Or are the recipies the same, just minus commodities?
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>>167062082
Just no commodities.
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>>167050097
Where are you getting that idea from
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>>167062673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK5EAB8gwJM#t=5m34s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoF9n2Uncic
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>>167062831
oh it didnt que the time properly, ~5:30
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>>167062831
My guess would be an Avenger/Gladius tier ship with combar focus- seeing as the F8 Lightning is the ANVL heavy.
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>>167064130
Why would you guess, its already been described as heavy.

"Some ships avoid dangerous encounters with speed, some with stealth and others with maneuverability. The Anvil Hurricane’s philosophy is that it should be able to blast anything that gets in its way out of the sky. The Hurricane won’t win any races and its electronic signature won’t let you sneak behind enemy lines… but it features a wide array of fully customizable small bore weapons hardpoints plus the ability to customize weapons types in several ways. Hurricanes are often used by militia squadrons and private organizations seeking to add a “heavy” to their lineup."
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>>167064280
I see no reason why there would be a heavy fighter - the F8 and another from the same manufacturer?
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Those guys sure want the donations. Would be a great way to grind military ranks, if it wasn't so expensive.
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>>167064832
Shameless time sinks
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>>167064832
>Earn shit tonnes of credits when the skimmer exploit existed
>Donate to Draconis Fed factions until Rear Admiral
> Used left over money to buy an A rated Corvette

I can finally play the game now
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>i can play the game now
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>>167064832
>pending states:civil war
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If you guys are salivating at the idea of skipping E:D's grind why are you playing at all?

The grind is the game. Once you hit the peak you're out of content.
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>>167065293
>Implying there's an end to this madness
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>>167065293
>what are engineers
>what is fucking around in a cheap ship you have 10000 rebuys for
>what is engineering said ship to go 800m/s
>what is trolling fucktards with torpedoes
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>>167065459
Yes, its called a Corvette.

Grind to it and uninstall is the current meta.

>>167065489
Engineers is "Grind for an eon to get better, slightly different colored versions of shit you had already"
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>>167065543
unlocking the engineers, yeah I get you. But once that's done it's straightforward as fuck
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>>167065293
I see it so many times, in so many threads...

Can someone explain what "The Grind" actually is? How do you "grind" in Elite? Where do you "Grind" in Elite?

I know I've only been playing for a little over two months, and I've discovered quite a few things, but I've searched everywhere - on the map, in the forums, on planets under rocks, even in bins of biowaste, and I can't seem to find this Grind I keep hearing people going on about.

Is this some backers-only, lifetime-pass owners secret locked away thing?

Is this something only found on the surface of Raxxla?

Explain this to me, or never mention it again.
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>>167065592
I'd be more positive about it if it wasn't such a lazy P2W mechanic.

Like, new weapons? new anything, maybe?

But right now as far as I'm aware all they enable is lowering TTK to retarded low levels with specific ammunition
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>>167065543
Even in a Corvette there's always a better build. Plus that's just for combat.

Any real endgame would have to include the big three Elite
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>>167065623
the game is the grind and the grind is the game is the grind and the grind is the game is the grind and the grind is the game is the grind and the grind is the game is the grind and the grind is

>>167065656
You can do that before even getting a corvette
>You will never get a CQC rank because the game is literally 100% deader than Line of Defence
Does this not trigger the fuck out of people? I imagine it does
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>>167065692
Yeah having a game mode completely unplayable is pretty shit
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Which is better E:D or SC?
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>>167065951
xD
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>>167065951
E:D is out and pretty polished but is boring as fuck and run by people who refuse to do anything actually fun with the game they're made. They also constantly make HORRIBLE design choices to cater to carebears and terrible players.

SC just isn't complete enough to warrant more than a couple of hours fucking around in each patch, but to me is more on the right track for a fun game.
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>>167065642
>new weapons
large and huge railguns when

>double huge rail corvette
>rails take forever to spin up
>womp womp womp wompWOMPWOMPWOMPWOMP KADOOOSH
>oneshotting cutter shields left and right
>warning: taking heat damage
>fire all thermal vent beams from all remaining hardpoints while ejecting 4 heatsinks simultaneously to not die from heat

double shot railguns when
>double shot imperial hammers
>burst of 6 railgun rounds
>warning: taking heat damage
>have to have 2 huge efficient thermal vent beams to prevent dying

yes please
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/scg/ clubhouse where?

I don't mean an org, just a hangout/place for meetups/rallypoint for anti-admiral whaling expeditions.
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>>167066859
My intial guess would be pyro because of its proximity and access to various carebear regions.
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>>167066859
Pyro probably, lots of jump points out.

Personally, Cathcart is looking neat, but that's because I've always been a sucker for ships/stations made of junk held together by duct tape and prayers (eg that one in Cowboy Bebop or the Rasta one in Neuromancer), and I can already see the appropriate levels of scum and villainy there.

Sadly, it'll probably end up as the edgy pirate base that no-one in their right mind would go anywhere near, so I guess i'll end up trekking across the 'verse, looking for a place that feels homey enough to settle in.
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>>167027654

5%? Fuck thats generous. Does it come with equips or are those lost?
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Found this old pic from back when /edg/ was standalone, right as we decided to merge. Any /scg/ epin memes to be added?
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>>167068894
As long as you have the rebuy, you get back everything. You can choose to lose some modules if can't pay for them, though.
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>>167068894

You keep everything except cargo, exploration data, bounty vouchers and fines.

Dying is only really a pain if you've been hunting bounties for a while, or you're on your way to sell off goods, or if you've been exploring. I also lost a week's worth of engie mats once, which put me off of the game for like a month. If fly without rebuy money you are a grade A retard, since the cost is indeed very generous.

This means that suicide is a legitimate and often profitable strategy. 10m bounty on your head in a system that you want to do stuff in? Can't be assed getting interdicted all the time? Buy the cheapest ship available and kill yourself. Spawn in your expensive shit and don't rebuy the cheapo one. Problem literally solved.
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>>166915124
>>166915314

Python a cute! CUTE
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>>167069474

Python ass a fat! FAT
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>>167069147

That means that trading is the only "de facto" dangerous profession.
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>>167067892
Don't forget that pyro will have that volatile pulsar thing going, meaning every few minutes you have to put yourself out on the suns rays in order to not get burned. Like emissions in CoP

Could make for some interesting fights
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>>167069770

If we leave out the rebuy, yeah. Ignoring the rebuy costs means you're not actually losing money when you lose vouchers or explorer data, just time. If you die with an Anaconda's worth of gold in your hold you lose both money and time, which basically adds up to time^2.


Which again means that long range smuggling/trade missions is _still_ the most profitable and risk free missions in the game. Is Robigo still a thing? Sothis? Haven't played in a while.
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Guys

Haha

Hey guys

Listen

Guys

Pfff hahaha

I've come up

Guys

I've come up with a new name for the combi-thread

Haha

Guys seriously

Hahaha

Guys

DEAD SPACE GENERAL

hahahahahaha
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>>167070637
that's surprisingly hilarious
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>>167070637
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>>167070910

I posted it in the final pre-merge /edg/, but people said the real dead space general would be angry. At least it bumped the thread before I went to sleep.
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>>167071043
but there isn't a deadspace general
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Is there any reason to keep a AspX after getting a conda?
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>>167072000
You can look at it with disgust whenever you want.
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>>167072000
Medium landing pads
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How do you guys balance resistances vs shield health? I'm sitting on about 35% thermal and kinetic resistance with explosive at 50%. Is it worth sacrificing shield health do push these numbers up?
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>>167049393
Fuck off. You can only do the ICC chain and stare at the jump drive loading screen so many times before you've done it all. This general needs more actually finished games. It's no one's fault but yours if you don't know how to filter.

>>167050097
I thought it was the space bike they hinted at before.

>>167052186
I am very much in favor of this. There should be a main /spcg/ that includes all space games, and specific generals can spin out of that. Obviously SC will get it's own general whenever they actually release some new shit, but there are plenty of actually finished games that are relevant and deserve room to talk about.

maybe /edg/scg/spaceg/ for the next OP?
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>>167073095
For CZs, I go thermal resist bi-weave + resist boosters with 1-2 heavy duty d boosters so that I don't have to stop to regen, never had my shield go down.
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>>167073119
>I thought it was the space bike they hinted at before.

You mean the dragonfly, dippy?

and no, fuck off and make your own thread if thats what you want to talk about. If there is a game that "deserves room to talk" I'm SURE your thread won't wither and die.
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Are we running any Wings/Open groups in 17D?
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>>167073323
What ship? What about the other utility slots?
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>>167073586
Cobra mkIII
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Will we ever get battletech style spheroid ships? I just want some of those. Not just the regular wet-navy ship in space stuff.
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>>167064280

Some kind of 890 sized corvette with a shitload of turrets. Not a solo ship and cargo will suck for its size.
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>>167073724
For which game? Probably not ED, everything has to fit through the mail slot, unless they radically change how docking works.
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>>167073357
Not the Dragonfly, retard. RtV 2.16 @ 38:35, the designer makes a motorcycle motion right at the end of the show as a hint of what they are working on. The Dragonfly was already out at this point. I'm really surprised no one else put this one together.

https://youtu.be/4JWnN8cpX6k#t=38m03s
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>>167073586
Chaff on my vulture and ECM+heatsinks on my corvette.
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IS there anything on E:D that allows you to scan ships from a distance superior to that of your scanner. Like some sort of long range equipment or technique that allows you to know how many ships and what types are on a given distant position (like 100km or 1 AU or whatever).
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>>167073890
I was thinking SC, but if ED is going to have fighter NPCs then it's not a stretch to have a little shuttle for docking while the ship is floating outside, or magnetically locked to the stations exterior. Or you could just make a bigger slot.
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>>167073898
>I'm really surprised no one else put this one together.

Its because barely anyone gives a shit about RtV. Its almost always cringeworthy garbage.
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>>167070637

I noticed how bad it was when I was buying my HOTAS. The market sucks, because it has to be revived.

What the fuck happened? Why did the genre die?
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>>167074068
Or how those super big ships dock at stations? the exterior docks.
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>>167074063
Something that caters to Griefing? lolno.
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>>167074073
That was one of the few watchable ones, no thanks to Tyler.

>>167074092
It didn't so much die, as people ran out of content to play much faster than they can make the games. In two years we will be complaining about the crowded space game market.
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>>167074092
Market is cyclical and fads drive sales.
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>>167074063
No, but why would you need that?
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>>167074063
No, because those ships don't exist until you're in the same instance as them
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>>167073436

War hasn't started yet.
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I was so excited when I heard we were getting fighter bays...

I want a Drone Boat like I had in Eve... the single Deployable Fighter we have now is such a let down...

>Just want to have a Python with Fighter bays on it...
>Pull up next to someone and unleash the hounds.
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>>167074236

Play like a vulture, charge in and reap kills/rewards ofc. Also avoiding getting rekted (goes both ways).

Pretty much eve online directional scanner.

Also I see on youtube people paying all the fines, bounties, whatever. Cant you just get out of the station while in silent mode or is it impossible?
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>>167074068
Currently available ships are already huge and are supposed to be piloted by a crew, no a single space NEET.
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>>167073916
Is that for PvP? I'm running full heavy duty booster on my Corvette right now and it is great for PvE.

I want to get into PvP eventually but exactly sure on the right load out
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>>167074467
>Play like a vulture, charge in and reap kills/rewards ofc.
Nah, it would be a waste of time.
>Cant you just get out of the station while in silent mode or is it impossible?
You can, but it's easier to just pay them or kill yourself in a sucidewinder, it's not like you're losing any notable amount of money.
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>>167074646
Like I said, combat zones.
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>>167074370
Uh-uh-uh, only one hound at a time and not in a Python.
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>>167074467
While in supercruise you can spot ships several thousand ls away, so kinda? Then run then down and interdict them.
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>>167075152
Buy what about the pack hounds?
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>>167074068
That's all reasonable, but the only one that isn't a huge change to the current docking mechanic is exterior pads. Enlarging the mail slot would mean changing the pad layout and hangars to accommodate a taller ship.

I'm not trying to crap on your idea, I just doubt Fdev will make those type of changes.
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has robigo stopped working now?
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>>167075917
nope missions are still spawning there like crazy
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>>167076293
What kind of missions?
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>>167076430
the kind where you accept a cargo hold full of slaves but instead of smuggling the
m like they want you abandon the mission and sell the slaves back to the station on their own black market.
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>>167076480
Won't your rep with that faction just decrease until they offer no missions if you keep doing that?
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>>167077146
>Cancel and Sell Slaves
> Rep - - -
>Do Shitty missions that don't pay as much to bring Rep+++
>Sell more Slaves on Blackmarket.
>Profit.

C'mon man, no ingenuity?
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>>167065642
>But right now as far as I'm aware all they enable is lowering TTK to retarded low levels with specific ammunition

unless you're fighting other engineered ships lmao. Dog fights in elite are either 30 seconds or 8 minutes.
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>>167077146
you can bring an ass load of exploration data to sell when your rep drops below cordial.

you only need cordial to accept missions and it takes ages for your rep to drop with abandoning missions
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>>167078484
Are those slave smuggling missions paying well? because if you have to take your time every other mission to do rep+++ missions to get rep back it might be worth it to complete them legit in the first place.
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>>167078484
>>167078845
Good to know.
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Can we please keep 17D on the low this time? Everything we've used to "get ahead" has gotten slerged all over by ForumDads and Cucks.

Like I get we're trying to help each other and I feel bad for leaving other Anons out, but god fucking damn. It's like those faggots who post YouTube videos on "Where to make EZ Credits" and ruin shit for everyone.
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we need a new thread
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>>167079174
has it already gone back into war or it is pending?
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>>167079495
Imminent.
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>>167079597
it's fuckin go time, i'm gonna start scooting my ass there

gonna keep this shit on the real DL.
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>>167079174

I'm pretty sure there isn't a god damn thing FD can do about 17D because of the anomaly of how remote the system is but also of how big the system is in terms of population, therefore giving more missions. FD's answer to 17D is the railgun/PA spam shitfest that currently affects all CZs, along with not fixing the black screen bug so that people who stack too many missions will have a game crash every 5 minutes.
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>>167080529
>along with not fixing the black screen bug so that people who stack too many missions will have a game crash every 5 minutes.
pls not be true
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/326211-2-3-Dev-Update

>dads are seriously bitching about the jump-in/out mechanics of it

Why are these people allowed to live?
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>>167080601

They've known about this issue for over 6 months now. It's either:

>FD is so incompetent that they don't know how to balance things like FD, so they keep the bug in to discourage LE EVIL EXPLOITERS from taking part
>FD is so incompetent that they just have no idea how to keep to their dev schedule and bug fix at the same time, so they let bugs fester indefinitely until the community gets so sick of it that even dads are complaining. See: Powerplay bug (3 months to fix, vast community outcry), various mission bugs that made missions worthless (almost 6 months to fix.)
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>>167080601
The bug is real, I also see people in open crash all the time.
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>>167080748
B-BUT MUH IMMURSION!!!
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>>167080529
I just wouldn't put it past them to alter something somehow.

>Oh they're making too much monies
>ForumDads bitching about how its ruining "immersiveness"
>People find out more, causes a big shitshow.

It'll be robigo 2.0 all over again.
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>>167080748
>All bounties and vouchers that the helmsman (ship owner) receives are duplicated for each crewmember, making multicrew a great way to have fun with friends without missing out on money-making opportunities.
Finally, holy shit.
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