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You have been dropped! edition

>What's new?
Valeera and ching chong new year event out (FREECOCK)
https://youtu.be/fWY6RbiNgVk
>Latest In Development Video
https://youtu.be/XUhMCNzcUb0
>Year in Review
https://youtu.be/sYIpkktbm68
>Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20483091/weekly-sale-jan-24-31-2017-1-24-2017

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Where do I find you B losers?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20477659/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-jan-20-2017-bloodlust-brawl-1-19-2017

>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20481262/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-january-24-2017-1-24-2017

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki
There's also a leddit page but we don't talk about that

Previously : >>166420081
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>No other option than play in Br servers
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Valeera is weak.
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>yfw game just dropped
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xth for SERVER CRASHES
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>>166515964

Big patch day, things probably being hotfixed atm
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>the rooster race
wew this shit is not possible
your teammates can totally fuck it up intentionally or not
I hope they just give it out for free
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>>166516146
In my opinion, a good change could be to make the needed items to pick up, bigger or more flashy to catch everyone's attention.
I just had one that I easily won just because three of us were pretty much aware of how shit worked. It's nothing too difficult honestly.
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Varian should have execute as a lvl 20 talent
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>>166516565

But then what would they give Garrosh when he's added?
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>>166516629
brawl
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>>166516565
Varian should have execute as a level 10 ult along with the fury buffs.
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Can you not buy the Lunar Li Ming skin on its own?
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>>166516826

No, bundle only.
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>>166516826
Nope. Special skins are usually just in bundles.
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>>166516565
>Execute
>activatable : Deal 35% max health in damage to a hero if this kills them refresh the cd of execute 60 cd
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>166516826
>>166516865
>>166516875
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>>166516826
>felsaber mount is only obtainable in a bundle
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>>166516941
in what world is that ok
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>>166516146
>mfw trolling everyone on the rooster race
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>mfw window borderless is not a thing in the settings
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>>166517314
and animefags wonder why they get shit
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>>166517228
in bronze where anon is swimming through shit
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>>166516941
>WITH OVERWHELMING FORCE
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>>166516146
is rooster race quick match only? it won;t spawn on A.I?
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>>166516941
>>166516565
>>166517783
Given how bullshit this was in Dota when it was buffed a couple years back, this will just utterly decimate everyone in HotS.

e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmuPCi-s-YQ

Imagine every QM and HL game with a 100% Varian pick rate because every fag wants to be the ebin combo killer. Maybe they'll even fuck around and throw the game so that it lasts long enough for them to hit lv 20. Dota 2 Axe players waste time all the time jungling for 30 minutes because they don't want to lane.
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any good sources for builds besides hotslogs? sreyhots doesnt update his list anymore
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Is that fucking Monkey King a Legendary skin that's driving up the cost of the bundle?
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>>166518102
Why are they on Sun Temple?
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>>166519670

Yes it is.
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>>166519670
No it's 2 skins and a Mount.
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>>166516941
>Mak'gora
>Heroic: Force both your hero and an enemy hero to attack each other until one of you dies.
>Lvl 20: No one can interfere with your duel
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>>166520539
Woops meant for >>166516683
I would love to see Garrosh or Gromm in this game
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>level 20 is "Delete the Support with 0 risk"
Doubt that would happen.
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>>166520539
>except thrall but he loses his power the next expac
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>>166520689
>Kill X/Perform Y action with zero risk.

Sums up a lot of "top tier" heroes, don't see why not.
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>>166520539
Let me fix for you
>Mak'gora
>Target an enemy hero both of you will charge at each other(think butcher charge) this lasts for 3 seconds
>lvl 20 talent makes the duration until one of you dies
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>can't even test the new skins out to see if I want to drop money on them
Blizzzard

Li-ming looks cute but I don't know if it's cuter than Star Princess.
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How the fuck do I play Zagara
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>>166523442

You don't unless you like being easy prey for 90% of the roster and a free kill.
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>>166523442
You don't.
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>"A player you have matched with has left the game or disconnected from the service!"
>"A player you have matched with has left the game or disconnected from the service!"
>"A player you have matched with has left the game or disconnected from the service!"
>"A player you have matched with has left the game or disconnected from the service!"

Um, excuse me?
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Surprised Valeera didn't get Sap as a talent`
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Why the FUCK are my range indicators and some effects (like Apocalypse) missing since this new patch?
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>>166523442
You buy Desert Queen and fap to her on the character select screen
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I'm punishing myself by starting ranked play. I wanted to force myself to play ragnaros and stack hero hits with meatballs earlier each game, but rag keeps getting banned in my random queues.

Help computer, suggest how to get gud
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Valeera_X_Valla when?
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>>166524117
git a bigger hero pool.
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>>166519005
I use heroesfire
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>>166517062
To be fair the Valeera skin is pretty sweet
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Magatha when
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>Love WuKong Samuro
>Favorite part of playing Samuro is hearing the old nostalgic voice lines from WC3
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>All these Stupid Valeera's in my QM games
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>they made rexxar and tassadar objectively worse
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>>166523769
>apocalypse
do you want the whole map to be highlighted?
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>>166523720
Having anub's ult as a talent and being invisible is a little too much.
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>>166527819
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>>166528404
...what the fuck? Learn to read.
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Ugh! I was trained by Rehgar Earthfury!
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Tyrande rework when? She's still loaded up with all those old generic talents.
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>>166528819

current match
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Valeera is fun, but something just feels off when I'm playing her desu
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>>166530036
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>>166515756
>Be literally best player in the server
>Still lose because teammates are borderline down syndrome retards

So, the ranked feature is still dogshit since it doesn't reward individual skill, in a team environment without a team

Hope this piece of casual garbage of a game dies already
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>>166530274

It's a team game. Any one person on your team can invalidate your carry by sucking. QM is a fun mode don't take it seriously senpai.
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>play on full res on my old computer
>it's stuck on 1152x864
>change to lower
>cannot
>change to higher
>cannot
>edges are cut off a little bit
>60 fps all the time and on ultra-high settings
Well, I guess it's worth it.
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>>166517542
Weebs don't have a brain, the western culture hate them, the east also hate them, and they killed the anime industry with their shit taste. Yet it doesn't cross their minds to stop being cancerous faggots who are basically a cultural tumour
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>>166530274
>be gold shitter
>lose
T-THIS ISN'T A COINCIDENCE GUYS THIS GAME IS FUCKING RETARDED
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>>166529952
Doesn't feel right because you don't play wow in rogue.
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>>166530481
This is ranked

And this is exactly why I ranted, since the game is heavily team-based, and we are playing without a proper team, we should be rewarded based on our individual skills

This isn't lol or dota, where you can actually make some insane build, say fuck your team and 1x5 the enemy team, the fucking XP is shared and building your char is very limited, not only you are handicapped by mechanical functions of the game but you are paired up with braindead turds everygame
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>>166529952
Maybe some talent revamp but she doesn't need a rework at all
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>>166530547
>implying the japs care about weebs tastes
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>>166530779

Both fucking drafts on either team are trash. How do you expect to win a game with a shitty team composition? Why did you pick Tracer when you had no Tassadar? Drafting is a skill in this game, and it's clear either you are in a trash MMR where literal aids is drafted reguarly or are mental and decided to turn your shit comp into an even more shit comp by picking Tracer.

You're a clown m8, chill out and take a break.
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>>166530562
>Implying there is a HUGE diference between ranks in this game

The biggest struggle is getting out these shitter ranks, once you are in diamond staying there is easier because most people there have the most basic game-sense, while in gold and below 96% of the players simply don't think

But yea, keep jerking your micro-dick to your e-peen, because your farmed a high rank, when mechanically speaking, you are on the same level as 80% of gold fags
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>>166530213
Damn dude look at that siege damage tho
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>>166530274

>those picks

Lord man, you and Illidan probably drafted late too, what a shit show
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>>166531157
how do you even do that much on her
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>takes like a solid 10 seconds or so to kill a low health minion with tass AA
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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>>166530901
>Implying japs have any respect for cultural cancerous human beings who contribute in nothing to japan or they culture and act on the most obnoxious ways, thinking living in japan is like a SoL anime with their broke japanese

They just care about the money you give to them, literally everything else about you they hate just like the rest of the world
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>>166531242

She did literally nothing all game but sat in lane. The two assists she got were when the shrine was near top lane where she was AFK killing minions.
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>>166531324
Pretty sure most weebs aren't giving them any money
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>>166531503
>viewing anime
>buying blu-rays
>buying figures, nendos, dakimakuras
>paying for anime streaming services
>mangas
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>>166531803
Most of those are probably the English versions meaning it's pennies compared to what they make in Japan
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>have gotten the cock event 8 times
>retards have taken the objects and sat on their ass with them or done absolutely nothing 6 times

fun times
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>>166531069
>80% of gold players are good
>except MY gold players. MY gold players are always bad
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My stutterstep game is off the charts today
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>>166531252
This is the single worst thing they've ever done. It is astounding.
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>>166531324
>They just care about the money you give to them
Japan doesn't see the profits from overseas sales and don't care since weebs don't import Blu-Rays whose numbers are the only things that matter to the anime industry.
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>>166531069
>the people that actually believe this
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>>166532575
Sometimes I shield minions just because they do more damage to other minions than me besides with storms.
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>tfw you find malfurion fun as shit but the fact that you rely on others is a bad thing for you
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>>166530517
i get that same cutoff issue on a higher resolution too
like 1400x900
also the screen would cut off the working lower resolutions with black edges if i run it in directx11 and tab back to the game.

blizz fixed it once a couple of patches back, but it came back shortly after another patch saying they fixed it for realz this time.
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>>166533483
To be quite honest, the cut off doesn't really pay much of a curse in-game because there's nothing that much important that's being cut-off aside the couple pixels of vision.
It does bother me during main menu though. The font being cut off a little can be painful, but the FPS being so healthy with this resolution makes it up.
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>>166532575
What about Zarya post launch? That was pretty fucking terrible too
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Man, I actually had a good BHB game today. It was like bizarro world.

And then we got a comp that was Kerrigan, Morales, Illidan, Valeera, Auriel. It did not go well. Spoiler alert, the Valeera and Illidan kept diving.
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>>166533702
At least Zarya can kill minions with an attack move.
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>Tass, Zarya, Valeera triple queue in QM

What a bunch of faggots.
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>>166533895
>Sup, War and Ass
Wow anon, how dare they.
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>>166531324
Weebs have influenced maybe two projects in the recent years:
/a/ boosted the fuck out of Watamote, thankfully
And Little Witch Academia was kickstarted by western money, even leading into a series.
If you don't like either of these, you're a fucking shounenshitter or edgefag and need to off yourself.
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>>166531803
Unless they are buying directly from the Japanese market, they are only filling the localizers pockets.
The percentage of weebs doing that is significantly lower than you think.
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>>166530036
>>166530213
There is a bug with the Monkey King skin that makes it so if you use a different tint the clones will still use tint 1.

I'm not sure if it happens all the time but I saw someone mention it.
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holy shit this patch is aids
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>>166535405
>.17
U wot?

Just how the fuck did blizz mess up this bad?
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>Do vs AI for golden cock
>Suddenly a bunch of debug shit pops up
Apparently everybody on my team could see it. What the fuck is going on?
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>>166515756
Li-ming rides huge cock lmao
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>>166535808
It's okay, game will be out of beta soon!
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>>166519721
chinks love it
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>>166527251
is maggie old or young? cuz I would love to play a cow-girl supposing she wasn't gross looking
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What a slow patch day. No one's bitching about anything.
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>>166536717
Same patch as last week. We already complained. Now we're complaining aboit bugs.
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I think Tass's AA might be the single worst experience I've had in any MOBA.
I'm pretty sure minions hit harder.
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>>166538930
That's why you go Psi-Storm build.
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>>166538930
Minions do hit harder.
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>>166538998
I am.
Trying to finish off minions that don't die to pre-quest completion Psi Storm gives me cancer.
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>>166538930
Aba's slap and Morales' pea shooter both hit harder than Tass's tickle beam.
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>>166539727
Morales hit harder then Uther
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Why not just give Murky a Spell Shield until his rework? The little fucker can't survive fucking anything, it's pathetic.
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>>166540697
that's the point????
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>>166540845
Yeah, but he's shit.

A band-aid fix probably wouldn't be the worst.
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>>166540845
In the very beginning, it was perfectly fine, he was super squishy but it took a few seconds for him to go down. Nowadays everything just shits out damage all over the place and has braindead retarded 3k damage in 1 second combos and shit like that. Murky can barely take a single ability in today's climate, is the problem. Yeah, he's meant to die fast and just keep coming at you with repeated lives, but when he drops before he can even get off a second Q, there's a problem. He's entirely negated and trivialized. All he has left is sieging and pushing with no repercussions, and we all know how well PvEing all game works.
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I'm so FUCKING SICK OF THIS CUNT RIGHT HERE. Every other fucking QM some dumbass Butcher picker on the enemy team ruins the game.

Blizzard dropped the ball so hard on his rework.
"Hey lets make a hero that needs an Artanis counterpick or 2+ other blinders or you literally lose with no counterplay possible."

If you kill him he loses a negligible amount of meat so you can't prevent him from becoming a lategame monster hypercarry and the chain got buffe
FUCK OFF Blizzard. Fucking retards.
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>>166542093
buh
ron
ze
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>>166542093
he shit tho

butch don't see play past gold-plat and when he does it's full on feed mode especially if he falls behind on stacks early

idk he's like tryndamere or yi don't try to 1v1 him mid-late game
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that new slut is OP as fuck .. i mean the new heroes are always op but this is ridiculous... she rivals samuro in damage and has permanent stealth since lvl 1
why would i even want to play zerathul anymore?
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>>166540504
Don't remind me, I'm at work and can't write angry emails to Blizz about it right now to vent.
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>>166541730
Easy ride till plat and comfy rounds on BHB?
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Just imagine the games now..
you can have a team with nova, samuro, zerahul and valeera so almost your entire team can stay invosible 100% of the time (even samuro can at lvl 20)
It's already annoying enough to play against cloak shitters and they just keep adding more in...
welp time to uninstall
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>Valeera's week 1 win rate


Any guesses? I'm thinking bottom ten.
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>>166542130
>>166542275
>every other fucking QM
>QM
learn to read m8s

He's useless with Artanis/Johanna/LiLi in game but if you don't have those you literally lose the game in the load screen. The retardedly overbuffed Chain is a guaranteed free kill every time at 10 and his quest is unstoppable because he loses a fucking negligible amount of meat on death.

His "counterplay" is the ususal "LOL JUST CC HIM XD" which already indicates a broken hero.
Equal level butcher with completed quest charges you from 1 screen away and chops out over half your HP during the stun and that's without needing to use the chain. Then he permaslows you for a billion % while getting 20% move speed buff towards you so you cant escape even with a dash.

In teamfights he just waits 5 sec for everyone to initiate, leftclicks on the enemy healer from 1 screen away with charge and gets a free kill, while you try to murder his ass when he has shields, 30 trillion DPS and 140% lifesteal.

If the only counter to a hero is to perma-CC them, it's fucking broken. Simple as.

The fact that you can draft metric tons of CC in draft modes doesn't make him any less broken and toxic in QM.
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>>166543116
54 I say.
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>>166543116
51%
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>>166542487
no ranged engage
limited escape options
no vp
energy can be limiting until you take talents/quests to reduce the drain
Longer cd on stealth than zera

She's not bad, but she's not OP, and not a better zera. She doesn't even have a winrate over 50%.
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>>166543447
>His "counterplay" is the ususal "LOL JUST CC HIM XD" which already indicates a broken hero.

No, not necessarily.

>If the only counter to a hero is to perma-CC them, it's fucking broken. Simple as.

It's curious how similar these statements are to the average low elo players thoughts on Tryndamere and Yi.
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Wait, you can only buy the new lunar skins in a bundle?
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>>166543539
her winrate is inflated by high level ranked plays where she is garbage but most of the people play in qm and she stomps there
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>Play a hero in QM
>After the match, that hero now has a high estimated wait time
>No matter what hero I play

Either this is bugged or fuck am I a trend-setter.
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>>166544228
>Item available exclusively as part of the 2017 Lunar Festival Bundle. Monkey King Samuro will become purchasable individually on January 31, and Lunar Li-Ming will follow on February 7.

Source: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20475281/lunar-festival-has-arrived-1-24-2017
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>>166544104
The comparison to Tryndamere is lackluster because his damage isn't WTFHIGH at full health and he also doesn't have a literal THREE second what-equals-to-a-stun in a game where all other CCs are 1ish sec.
Tryndamere = Zul'Jin, not butcher.

And Yi, I don't know what he's like nowadays as I stopped League when Jinx came out, but he was never a real issue for me.

Unlike motherfucking Butcher. They tacked too much shit onto his kit. It's not enough that the charge charges. It also has to do 10% of your health and stun and have massive range and make unstoppable.
And it's not enough that the Q deals AoE damage and AoE slow, it also needs to reset his counterattack.
It's not enough that the lifesteal lifesteals, it also has to infinite refresh on attacks and give movement speed and be so high that it's essentially burst healing.
Finally, it's not enough that the chain chains, it also has to fucking silence so you can't do anything to counter him for 3 sec it was literally fine before its buff, now Furnace is shit compared to it.
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>>166544104
I took it as him meaning "If the only counter to a hero is to just CC them, they're shit.", as that's kind of how I feel as well. That's why Zul'jin is a non-issue. It's retarded when a hero is nullified by a simple stun into burst combo, beacuse that's how everything is dealt with, but in the case of someone like Zul or Butcher, they have nothing to offer that makes it worth it over other safer picks.
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how do i do that rooster event?
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>>166544568
what rooster event? theres only a big cock event LMAOOOO
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>>166544423

Unless I'm mistaken it's his rage bar that increases his critical strike. Perhaps you're thinking of Olaf.

Regardless, mid-late if a Tryn/Yi gets on to a carry for so much as a second they're dead, not unlike The Butcher. I think it's almost funny, because to me Butchy seemed really solid, just not in this game. He relies too heavily on external support because he's so easily shut down and blown up.

I don't know. Haven't played in a while. What MMR you playing at? Recently took Butcher from somewhere in Silver to low Diamond for a friend and most people just don't understand how to play against it.

>>166544425
Yeah, Zul'jin to me just seemed too risky considering his lack of mobility/escapes, and unlike Trynda can't use his ult while under cc. Definitely need to play with/as/against him to get a feel for it, though.
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how good is moltres? he seems really fun to play in the shop demo map, but is he considered good in the game as well? i really love that fire wave ult
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>>166545026
....wat
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>>166545026
yes

the other ult is better
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fucking destroyed

Luckily QM gave my enemy team a shit comp
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>>166548018
congratulations on your first mvp (most valuable player)
welcome to the nexus1!!
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Its amazing how peoeple can be so stupid as to not understand how the race works.
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>>166548708
They'll be doing something to make it easier within the next few days.

>>166548018
>right-click wonder

He's always great to go back to.
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"Oddball" heroes were such a mistake. Cho'gall and Abathur are a free win for the opposing team eeevery fuuuucking tiiiiiime. Good lord.
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>>166549532
Aye, they seem a bit difficult to balance.

>all the posts on the reddit about how wonky heroes are what make the game great and how we need more

Funny these are never the type you bump into during draft when you hover Murky, Azmodan, Medivh or Abathur.
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>>166550197
>Casuals trying to dictate what gets into the game for people who actually play the fucking game

Horrifying.
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>>166515506
>How's WoW at the moment?
the latest patch fucked most classes, but Nighthold is the best raid of the expansion by far
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>>166520539
this should have been Alarak's ult
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When are they nerfing Artanis? Fucker has become so retardedly obnoxious it isn't funny anymore. I used to love this guy, too.
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>>166530274
>losing against a sonya
>as a solo tank
very sad, many such cases
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how much longer until vikings are playable again
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So what's up with Dehaka? Why do I not hear much about him anymore? Was his rework a big nerf or something?
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Muradin here, I'm thinking about getting a leg lengthening surgery from Morales, so I can be at least 6 feet.
I am so fucking tired of being at eye level with a fucking child panda and being looked down upon (literally) by every hot piece of elf ass on the roster.
If I do it though, the recovery time is 6 months, so i wouldn't be playable during that time.

What do you think?
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>Valeera
>another shitter stealth champ loved by russians
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So who's going to be our next assassin? We haven't gotten one in a while.
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>>166554079
real muradin would never call elves a `hot piece of ass`

begone impostor
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>>166553765
Chadhaka is fantastic, but his presence isn't on 360noscope dankgank alien of many swaps level, so he's not in the focus right now.
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>>166550197
Ranked is only a minor mode compared to quick play.
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My friend wanted to try Kerrigan and hadn't played her ever. We ended up in QM and got annihilated. Kerrigan is hard to play, with her abilities having minor delays, her being a squishy melee assassin with no escapes and her ults being pretty trash.

Should I have suggested an AI game? It killed the mood and we didn't end up playing any more.
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>>166554329
lmao bro epic post I laffed hard
>>>/reddit/
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Considering how they already addressed the whole thing about assassins, what are we expecting to have next, regardless of universe?
MY vote is tank that is actually not a tank
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>>166555149
One Support followed by 6 Warriors, then two Specialists, then back to Assassins.

I still don't know why the fuck they haven't divided Warriors into Guardians and Bruisers. Jesus.
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>>166554079
But Muradin only fucks dwarves, gnomes and goblins and would never call tall folk "hot piece of ass".
Obviously an impostor.
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>>166520539
literally legion commander and her aghs
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>>166536513
she is like 70s
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>>166536513

Magatha is younger than Cairne was but not ancient. I'd wager somewhere in whatever the "middleage" or "twilight years" are for tauren. Also, for an old heifer she isn't that bad. Unfortunately if we are ever going to see a femalw tauren represented in this game, it will be her. She's like the only significant tauren besides Hamuul and Cairne.
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>>166555326
Oh no, he fucks lots of things that aren't dwarves and gnomes, bro.
He's just not attracted to them. It's a dominance thing.
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Where's the rooster race?
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>>166556514
hunted mines, but i don't get it i picked all fo that shit from the ground and the rooster was still not pleased
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>>166555265
And then divide assassins into divers, sustain damage, burst? And support into main healer and off support? And specialist into sieger and other?

This would essentially make QM unplayable, as opposed to fast games with shit comps.

I get everyone wants to have one tank so they can play assassin, but solo tank is not intended to be the way to play. Two bruisers appears to be what Blizz wants.
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>>166554882
>It killed the mood

if losing with your friends 'kills the mood' then you need to get better friends
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Why can't you jump into rankeds with Valeera? I want to shit all over people as Valeera or as someone who buttsecks enemy Valeera.
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So what the fuck is the chance of this rooster thing even appearing?
1%?
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>>166557092
You have to be at least level 5 with a hero before you can play them in ranked
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>>166557092
>i'm a faggot who pays 15k so i an play an OP hero for a week like a shitter that i am
ok
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>>166556726
>A little after Chen rework, even after health nerf
>Picking Chen and another bruiser was almost guaranteed to win
>Few weeks later
>If I try to pick Chen my team goes into a fit of rage as if I was highlighting murky

What happened?
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>>166557957
they don't know the power of the panda
remedy their mistake
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>I am a faggot that bought a Valeera bundle + Stimpack because I am not poor.
>I am a faggot, that does not have time to grind some virtual coins in a game like an autist because It's much easier and time effective to just buy some virtual vanity with real cash which can be made instead of playing and grinding.
ftfy
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>>166558281
>>166559128
>>166559225
are you seriously doing this because you're bored?
what the fuck is going with you anon
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>I am a faggot
Ftfy all.
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>play nazeebo
>BRRRRRAP
what were they thinking?
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>>166559548
BRAK A BO

based Nazeebro
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>>166559548
>AIIIIIYEE
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>>166559337
Actually, yes. If I had at least some hope in most of /vg/ not being complete autists, I would not delete the replies. But I figured you'd need some explanation, since you all already assume that people are grinding game currency instead of you know, focusing your energy outwards, which is far more effective.

Time needed to grind 15k with or without Stimpack >>> Time Needed to make enough $ to buy something with cash.

I rarely play games actually, but yesterday went on a binge playing marathon, because yes, had nothing better to do anyway. Here, my match history.
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why do i always get attacked first when i play lili or nova? when i play tanks i get always ignored but as lili or nova i get always focused and can't do anything in fights and have to run away every time
this is unfair as fuck
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>>166544423
>tagged too much shit into his kit
>still one of the easiest heroes to counter

lul get good
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>>166560406

Li Lis only defense is 15% run speed and a little healing. If you are out of position killing you ensures thst the enemy wins their fight. Nova is even worse. Free kill if you get caught and everyone hates Nova with a burning passion so you are target #1.
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>>166561293
that guy was kind of talking shit but

hotslogs says butcher has the third highest winrate in non-metallic qm
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>>166560282
>doesn't even play the game
>spends lots of money on it
Yes good goy, keep buying virtual goods *rubs hands*
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>>166562219
"lots of money" is extremely relative term, anon
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>>166562281
Yes, it's just micro transactions, keep buying
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>>166562219
>Willfully cucks himself out of the genepool by spending considerate amount of his time playing a game which in the end diminishes his chances for reproduction.
>le *rub hands meme*
Tell me more :^)
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How do I play Valeera
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>>166562523
cs
bf
ss
evis

Death finesse at 7 is a must have
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>>166562523
sinister strike eviscerate cheap shot backstab slice and dice ambush rupture blind
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>>166562523
she's a 'high-skillcap' 'combo' hero, so you just mash buttons and do an enormous amount of damage to everything that comes near you
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>>166562448
Also, obligatory "Le White Genocide, Jews Did This" posts on the /pol/ go hand in hand with that. Denial is everywhere, from bronze players to frog posters.
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>>166560406

Learn to position safely but in range to be useful. It's easy to forget how squishy you are as Li Li and you can end up in melee range if the enemy team without realizing and get fucked up. Nova has a very long range. If you are ever in a place where the enemy can collapse on you you were way too far forward to begin with.
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>Playing Kerrigan for the first time
>mfw she talks
Why does everything she say sound so sexual? Why is everything she says to anyone filled with so much sexual energy
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i love valeera

tracer is my most hated hero, blinking piece of shit

but now i can FUCKING FINALLY just sneak up on her, silence her for 2 seconds and shove my elf dick all the way up to my ladyballs in this little PIECE OF DOGSHIT and there is NOTHING she can do about it

feel so good
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>>166527251
>Wanting that traitor over Cairne, the most bro of them all
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>>166556727
How so? It wasn't that we were losing, it was more that playing Kerrigan was tough and they felt useless.
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>>166564054
>cs to lock her
>varian charge/stun and taunt her
>if she survives for any reason valla use rov on her

best game of my life
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How is your cock quest going?

mine is 3/25.
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>>166564043
because some dude at blizz wrote a script and instructed a VA to act it out.
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>>166564127
against tracer, i hope
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>>166564054
if you weren't bronze she would blink away from your totally 100% invisible shimmer
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>>166564134
1/25

going to farm it this weeked on vs ai with my friends

>>166564195
Yes.
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>>166564215
yeah because i am so retarded and don't wait for another teammate to distract her and attack when she tries to attack him

basics of the fucking hunt, attack when you know what your target will be doing next
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>>166564043
>mfw that ass and her heels
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>>166564043
zerg genes, blame abathur
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>>166564043
>>166564298
>that fat ass and her heels
>that long hair
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>>166564090

Cairne is fucking dead dude lol, she killed his ass with some poison bruh
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>>166564232
I wish i have friends.
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>>166564043

Your queen has needs
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WHERE IS FENIX?
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Rexxar Q build pretty strong.

That 13 talent is insane. +100% att speed for 3s after hitting a 5s cd and every Misha attack increases the duration for 0.5s.

Permanent +100% attack speed during teamfights as long as you land q and the build has amazing waveclear too.
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>>166564297
well maybe if you were playing at a hypothetical skill level where people are actually half-decent she wouldn't become completely absorbed in her glorious assault and would spot your completely invisible shimmer and blink around anyways
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>>166564490
What why would abathur be behind this? Does he have some sort of plan to breed humans and zerg-infected humans?
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>>166564643
>Cairne is fucking dead dude
Your point being?
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>>166564907
And combine that with the speed boast that Auriel or Morales can give you

That's a fast bear
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>>166565165
Never went the 16 talent so far. In my opinion feign and especially intimidation are just so much better most of the time.

You pretty much only go Thrill of the Hunt in games you went Aspect of the Hawk before the patch. That's not a lot of games.
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>>166565073

Clearly Magatha is the better tauren because Cairne = ded and she is not
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What Valeera builds seem good so far?
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>>166565802

All are fine if you build correctly to the enemy comp. Only a few talents are dead picks like expose armor or thr ult upgrades at 20 both are kinda bad.
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>200g daily for doing the rooster race
>4 games played, still haven't even seen the event
>apparently can very easily fail it
Did they even test this shit?
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>zera
>nova
>samuro
>valeera
>tlv
good luck
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>tfw last out of the 5 to pick hero in hl
>tfw the last picker is always stuck with a healer
>tfw decide fuck it and pick an assassin anyway
>we got steamrolled coz we had no heals
>faggot team blamed me
fuck them, if they want a healer then they should pick it, healer is the most boring role to play and i ain't doing that shit
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>>166566276
5 games, saw it twice and got it once.
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>>166566276
>lose 6 seconds of the 30 you have to do the rooster race just spawning into the game

No, they didn't.
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>>166564490
>maximize breeding potential
>human resistance, unlikely
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>>166566481
They're gonna fix it eventually, they're busy feeding Mei a sandwich right now.
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>>166564298
>In her succubus skin
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>>166566276
>got it just now
>said we won the race
>quest didn't complete
What?
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>>166567806
completing it last second doesnt count
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>>166567948
Based Blizzard fucking no skill faggots that can't chose their teammates again, blessed be they!
>>
Why did no one tell me Auriel was so fun?
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>>166568110
To protect you from the pain of dealing with people demanding heals when there's no fighting going on.
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New Tass would be fun if they would only adjust some numbers
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>>166568110
>QM
>have almost no CC in the team
>mfw enemy auriel picks Resurrect and illidan does whatever he wants
>we lose
>>
>start game
>range indicators on EVERYTHING just gone
>>
>bhb
>I first pick Tychus
>rest of the team picks gazlowe, cho'gall and tassadar
>enemy team is abathur, valeera rehgar, and azmodan
I think that might of been the worst draft I've been apart of yet. Thankfully, it was unranked.
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>>166568774
just remove the ult from the game and give it to mercy if she will ever join hots.
>>
Is Chen bugged right now? I tried taking his fire quest, and it wasn't counting when I was hitting enemy heroes. First time playing him though, so maybe I was doing something wrong?
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>>166568962

Only counts if they also hit by keg
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Is mutilate usable or does the range decrease just make it trash?
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>>166569195

Q build is the best performing damage build so yeah
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>>166548708
Maybe they're just not racists? smdh
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>>166568823
Someone mentioned this already. Scan and Repair your game, should fix that.
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>>166569195
Can't dodge as well, but it's the bread and butter for Illidan-esque dance the battlefield builds.

Don't do this on a Nazeebo, seriously.
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>>166569535
huh, I thought this was some kind of gameplay fix to make the game require more skill to play. that fucking blows.
>>
Is me or Valeera looks kinda tiny?
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>>166570116
She's a slut, of course she's tiny compared to big human cocks.
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>>166570201
>of course she's tiny compared to big Orc cocks
Learn your elf
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>friend plays stitches for the first time
>picks the globe quest
>constantly complains all game about not getting quest dings when he collects globes
>check his quest progress
>0 globes
Fucking hell, did Blizzard break Stitches again?
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>>166569289
>>166569641
Well ive played a fair bit of illidan so i guess ill feel right at home.
Im assuming that build is crip/energy reduction/mutilate/smoke/blind/tea/nightslayer.
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>>166570414
Multiple globe quests are broken right now
>>
Skins you want in Heroes of the storm
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>>166570341
That's night elves, son.
You learn your elves.
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>>166571237
>El Diablo
>Its diablo as a luchador
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>>166571359
Night elves is for orc cock as well
>>
>Cheerleader Kerrigan
http://www.heroesofthedorm.com/
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>>166571237
Forest hobo illidan removed and replaced with catform illidan that jumps and swipes at people.

BOOM feral druid is in the game and they didnt even have to bother with making a new hero.
I just need a way to make metamorphosis make sense.
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>>166571596
>>
Since there's going to be at least 3 invisible heroes per team now, who is the best hero to counter them?

And no it's not Tassadar.
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>>166571596
>>166571780
>Cheerleader Kerrigan
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>>166571596
>No Coach Abathor
>No Football Butcher
>>
>patch
>Warcraft quest
>play stitches because I feel like being useless
>pick increased health per health globe
>8 minutes in, counter at zero
>actually watch hp as I pick one up
>doesn't count towards the quest
Nice
Anything else fucked up?
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>>166571596
>School based skins
>Janitor Leoric coming soon
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>>166572167
Same thing for Olaf.
Also, Seasoned Marksman is fucked right now, I think.
>>
>played samuro more than 20 games
>never realized his w can be activated

guess that's why im bronze
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>>166571237
>Diablo with a lucha mask and taco sound effects on Apocalypse
>Thrall in a towel and nothing else (his hammer is a shower brush)
>Disco Kael'Thas with a ridiculous white boy 'fro
>actual doctor Nazeebo with stethoscope and scalpel (Gargantuan is dressed like a nurse)
>casual Friday Morales
>Tourist Medivh (his Raven form is a tiny airplane and instead of his staff he uses a camera)
>Janitor Leoric FUCKING WHEN?????
>riot police gear Butcher
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>>166571596
No viewership
>>
Is valeera a whore or a pure virgin? I don't want to spend 15 000 gold on a used up whore since there are plenty of them in the shop for just 4k.
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>>166572030
>>166571596
Why is an alien insect queen so sexual?
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>>166572961
Kill yourself
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>>166572976
b r o o d y
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>>166570917

Vigor is usually better, crippling poison can be taken if you plan on solo killing more or if they have something like Azmodan ir Zagara who you want to make sure won't walk away during a gabk. Vigor is best for sustain teamfighting though.
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>>166572383

Hit till you crit then mash it again for instant crit again. Burst combo.
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>>166572976
Probably those fat, fat hips
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>>166571596
Cheerleader skins when?
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>>166573142
But she isn't a broodmother
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>>166573810
We all know kinky will be first for Cheerleader
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>>166573802
Mods
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>166573802
>skin and blood are green
>glans is pink
fucking ruined t b q h
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>>166572756
>the game that peaks at 20k views on twitch
>facebook exclusive
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>>166572961

She was a slave to the orc cock just like Varian and Jaina.
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>>166573802
Spoilers never protect and if you delete I can't even take a look, repost you motherfucker.
>>
Where are you leaker kun? I need my fix of non elf goodness
>>
>feeling sexually attracted to fictional video game characters that do in no way exist in real life
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>>166574315
>feeling sexual
>feeling at all
Get out normie fucker REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>166574315
>feeling

perhaps you're lost
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>>166574443
>implying Orcs feel attracted to non-colored elves
Boner for femOrcs, hateboner for night elves.
Get your lore right you cucklord.
>>
>>166573658
Zerg zagara is sexier
>>
>scan and repair game
>range indicators still missing
>scan and repair again
>they're back, but only for 1-2 games, then they're gone again

gj blizz
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>>166574663
They rape anything.

Especially the femorcs do.
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>>166574443
wait a minute... that orc...
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/819967266066350081
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>>166574186
Jaina was a sex slave? Bullshit she is way too chill for that (pun intended) ex slaves are always edgy cringey attitude shitters
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>>166574674
Give her an appropriate VA and Desert Queen will be the toppest waifu ever
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>>166574824
No, they got raped the hardest by Metzen.
Again, get your cuck oogabooga fetish out of here, it's not canon and doesn't make sense. The only cock she ever got was Broll's bearcock and the BHC.
>>
>>166573926
>>166574063
What did I miss what did I miss?
>>
new rexxar is unplayable
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>>166574930
youre being memed on
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>>166574930
She was a consensual sex slave.
Jaina gets off to the most depraved stuff, she might very well be the biggest whore in this game.
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>>166575010
Gross Valeera pron.

>>166575037
Oh, heavens. What did they do to him?
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>>166575004
Femorcfu and Nelfu is the purest form of love anon.

And the sweatiest.

>>166575037
So far I find him ok but haven't tried in HL yet.
Q build pretty nice.
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>>166575117
>gross
homofags out
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>>166575117
put his (1) on his (D), broke Misha's AI and babbified his control scheme, also fucked up his best builds with talent reshuffles
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>>166575117
Well the new control scheme is so much worse, but worst of all they somehow made Misha's AI revert back into the stone age

She no longer obeys any commands, leashes back at random, gets stuck in EVERYTHING and is impossible to properly call back to safety instead of just autoattacking shit until she gets picked apart
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>>166575117
No more "stay passive" for Misha, and the "1" and "D" got simplified into just "D" to control her
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>>166575259
>>166575317
>>166575356
>"1" and "D" got simplified into just "D" to control her
For what fucking purpose? It was fine before.
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>>166575441
>shitters whine that Rexxar is too hard to use
>blizzard dumbs him down because "everyone deserves to be able to play every hero"
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>>166575356
>>166575317
>>166575259
>controls simplified

Why, though? Was it to make them more easily accessible to the masses, or something? He seems to have found his niche audience.

>>166575245

Questionable quality is all.
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>>166575698
They wanted it to be 1 button instead of 2
They even admitted it is a nerf, but it was worth it because blizzard
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>>166575837
>"hey Chad, Rexxar isn't currently doing too well in the meta, how bout we do something about it?"
>"sure thing boss, let's nerf him and fuck over Misha's AI"
>"fantastic, totally worth it"
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>>166575837
Took a bit of a break. Was he still just being picked to shit on somebody in the solo lane? Figured they would eventually try to make him a little more well-rounded, just not like this.

>>166575548
To be fair they have been pretty okay with releasing relatively difficult/complex Heroes recently.
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>>166575216
Futaorc and nelfu is better imo
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>>166575245
>calling people who don't want to be cucks homo
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>>166573474
That's the exact opposite of what i thought.
Crippling should make it super easy for your team to secure kills.
I know that good feel when im playing a melee and i see someone get clipped by a random jaina spell.

And i never seem to fight long enough to even use thistle tea so im not sure how much of a difference i will notice with vigor.

Do i need the illidan skin to truly see?
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>>166576721
>being both a homo AND a cuck
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>tfw you fell for the "play tassadar" meme
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>>166577187
>you're a bronzie
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>It's a team runs in 2v5 all game episode
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>>166577678
>it's a [insert hero here] fucks off to attack a fort while your team gets raped 4v5 episode
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>yfw FRESH MEAT
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Does Blizzard actually ban people in this game for things other than obvious hacking or severe harassment?

I regularly get people reporting me because I'll AFK in a match if we're way behind and I just don't feel like playing through a stomp, and I'm wondering if I should be worried about getting banned.
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>>166577978
Yes.
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>>166576775

Basically vigor equals 2 extra Qs in a fight before needing to disengage, which usually means a kill with Q build.

Thistle is fine but only take it if you don't have a use for the Q talent that tier.
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>>166577978
Yeah, although I'm sure you could just sit in a lane whacking away at minions and get away with it, unless you're announcing it in chat like an asshole.

>>166577940
>when people venture out to soak an open lane without vision on the butcher mid-late game

Always been curious as to why The Butcher didn't have a dumpster tier winrate.
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>>166572383
Sounds like an avarage samuro player to me.
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>>166577978
Muted, and thus banned from competitive. If you don't give a fuck about that, they can't do shit. QM, AI, Unranked and Brawl are yours to terrorize.
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>>166574969
>all theset plebs fawning over the most humanized version of her
Personally I like insectoid best
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>>166576131
futa is always the best, but people get understandably annoyed when it's added to everything
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>no zerg Azmodian skin
>no Tal'darim nazeebo
Plenty of wacraftized skins, where are the sci-fied up skins?

Also crossover maps when?
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>>166571596
>No Principal Thrall
>No professor Medivh
>No punk girl Valla
>No chef Uther
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Did they disable the rooster daily? I've played 4 games without getting it today
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>>166578875
What about preppy tracer and football zaria, super nerd gazlow, socially awkward zagara?
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>>166571596
damn they know their player base well. that skin will sell better than food in africa
also fuck their school competitions
>tfw not a student for a long time
why aren't there any competitions for teams of dead end job 9 to five losers?
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>>166579096
No you cockloving whore.
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>>166578875
And on top if this Azmodunk is already perfect as part of their sports teams
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>>166579327
Because people on school have hope for the future anon
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>>166578797
What about archon Ragnaros?
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>>166579478
and they want to take it from the by addicting them to their shitty game?
what a bunch of assholes
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>>166579327
Uhh, that's professional HotS?
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>>166579996
yeah but thats for faggots with no life who play 24/7
would be nice to have amateur compos too so that you could make a team with your beer budies and put your kid on the team as well
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>>166580219
That's just team league
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>>166580219
sorry gramps but youre not gonna get money for being trash
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>>166578797
are you blind or what, there are plenty of them
>mecha dehaka
>mecha anub
>space lord leoric
>mechatransformer tass
>reaper muradin
>master vikings
>marine murky
>sc medic uther
>marine rexxar
>sc-ish illidan

and I didn't write down about most of the starcraft characters with "redundant" sci fi skins
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>>166581240
These don't count because I don't care about them.

Mecha Illidan fucking when?
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So I haven't played the game in like a year. How's my boy zeebo doing? Is he just shat on all day by new super mobile heroes like it was beginning to happen back then?
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>>166579224
Gazlow, Gul'dan, Kael'thas and Gall are the members of the nerd club.
Zagara is friend with the weeabo of Lili.
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>>166580707
I'm not trash in the last ranked league i managed to get up all the way to silver 4
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>>166581901
>How's my boy zeebo doing
Spiders
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>>166564831
>Say that they can't release Fenix for a while because leoric already has a revive mechanic.
>Release 2 stealth assassins in the span of a few months
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>>166581901
With all Spider Talents and good aim, you're looking at 2k damage over 6 seconds on a 3 second CD.

Nazeebo SHITS out damage if he can stack it all up.
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>>166582317
Stealth isn't a mechanic, it's a component.
And revival is more impactful than stealth, because it requires the team to balance a hero a lot more carefully. Remember release Leoric?
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>take Rexxar's new "gain 2 health for every second you stay alive" talent
>get up to ~2000 bonus health
>die and lose it
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I wonder if I can sign up for heroes of the dorm with my college email, since it is technically still active.

Last year I participated and as expected my team won 1 match and lost the rest
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>>166582017
Abathur is the creepy kid who likes to torture animals
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>>166582347
>>166582209
Good, good. It may be time to fire it back up
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>>166582461
I remember bronze teams losing to Leoric suiciding into buildings. That shit did not work in masters.
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>>166583396
His quest does take a little while though. Plus landing a good zombie wall can still be useless because a lot of heroes can escape it. Besides that he is very fun to play
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>>166583461
One guy tried to pull the suicide leoric once against my team, back before the samuro patch.
Even in silver that didn't work.
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What the fuck did they do with li-mings face on the new skin?
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>>166584068
Face is the same, makeup is different.
Less lipstick and rouge. Wider hair so the neck is more visible.

Still as fuckable as ever, that little cockrider.
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>Play one game
>immediately recognize Varian is T1 in the QM meta despite never playing him before and only fighting him once
>tfw too smart to lose to stealth memes
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>>166584647

Shield Varian is beastly. Other two specializations are meh.
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>>166584784
Collossus is fantastic. Kerrigan that can't mess up her combo.
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>>166584871
Is fantastiic but too easy to negate.
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>>166584871

Its a lot weaker than Kerrigans combo because it can only hit 1 person tops. A good Kerrigan can penta kill a team with properly placed combos and ravages.
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>>166584784
I haven't tried anything other than shield
>Dumb rogue dives a squishy
>Taunt
>Stun
>Dead
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I don't really care about Valeera, but I dig the Eversong/Sunwell music on the title screen.
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>>166585126
They are just trying to make me re-subscribe

I won't fall for the jew
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>>166585245
>tfw don't even have to spend the $ any more

bless the fellow who came up with the wowtoken it's while we're only moderately dead and not dead dead

>also battle.net currency when, I want to convert my wow gold into hots skins
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valeera's master skin is fucking garbage
master skin is supposed to show more skin, not fucking less
i ain't paying 10k to put pants on that slut
liming does it right, for 10k she will take off her pants like a good little slut and run around in just her soaked panties
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>>166585853
Nah idiot
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>>166585853

>doesn't like bloodfang
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>>166585853
It's another kid that can't look at porn on his mommy's computer crying cause a game doesn't let him pop a stiffy
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>>166585853
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>>166585853
>Doesn't have to pay for the slut skin
>Still complains
?
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Which unpopular hero do you like most?
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>>166574930
>Bullshit she is way too chill for that (pun intended) ex slaves are always edgy cringey attitude shitters
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>>166586085
Why would i get off to some imperfect pig girls in porn movies? they are just worn out whores, the bottom of the barrel
But the hots grills are the top of the food chain, the apex predators and perfect in every way and i can even control them and shit
they are so much better than any boring """real""" girl
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>>166586272

Li Li

I wish she was better tuned so she was more viable.
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>tfw hots players are too stupid to understand how to do the cock race
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>>166586356
She was good in some matchups before the rework
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>>166586272
Valeera. Still play her in HS. Wish she was viable, really.
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>>166586796
No blizzard is too stopud to explain it, everyone just picks up the shit like with the artifact event
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>>166586272

>tfw Chogall's design will forever make him either too good or not at all viable

Feels bad bros
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>>166586272
Zarya

I'm not entirely sure why she is never picked because she's so strong. I've been on a giant streak with her lately but I don't think I've seen her once in my last 50 games unless it was me playing her
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>>166574930
>Jaina was a sex slave?
No it's just in people fanfictions
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>>166586835

Because cleanse on a 3 second cooldown was GREAT and serpent healing on bounces was OBVIOUS synergy with other talents but Li Li was apparently too good when the game had 3 supports in the entire game. I hope they fix her again soon.
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>>166586987

She is still meta is double warrioe comps and drafting against high CC and sustain damage comps.
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>>166582347
Wait the spider talent has better output than the frogs?
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>>166586981
I always liked him because it was like playing a more accurate version of Eyedol
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>>166586987
She's boring as shit.

>>166586981
Yeah, the oddballs are difficult to balance.

>also lmao finding somebody else to play with
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How good is tychus?
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post yfw you get MVP with your master skin on
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>>166587253
You need to shotgun with frogs, and you can't reduce CD. It has better burst and zoning though.
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What characters are being released next? Cydea when?
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>>166587510

Tier S pick, always good, best draft against high HP enemies
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>>166587589
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>>166529747

Bark! I was trained by Rehgar Earthfury!
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>>166587704
FemDiablo and Aidan with a Baron Rivendarre skin.
Don't tell reddit though, I don't like them.
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>>166587704

We will know whos coming next at the end of next week.
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>>166587709
cho'gall getting D from tychus always makes me hard as fuck
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>>166587709
How do you play him well? I always have trouble positioning him well after I'm done with my Q. I'm either too far in the back to fully utilize my D or too far in the front to survive
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>>166586272
Abathur
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>>166587510
He's always good, although especially good into multiple high health heroes.

Like, you're pretty safe to always pick him, though.

>>166586272
Azmodan.
Soaking multiple lanes simultaneously via last hits from the Q just sort of appeals.
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Is there any way NOT to rejoin and just go into another match?
I'm farming the race in AI and I will not fucking tolerate playing rounds that my idiot teammates fucked up.

There isn't, right? Fucking Blizzard forcing people to stick with rounds. Not even Overwatch does this. Is the leavers penalty not bad enough? Do they not care about someone maybe not wanting to play with literal retards?
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>>166587839
>the bigger they are
>thats the stuff
>Chogall try to 1v1 me when im 60% hp
>mfw
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>>166587892
Get the minigun heals talent and right click a tank and then pray to the gods you don't get stunned/blinded and that your support isn't sleeping
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>>166588180
>crash
>try to rejoin
>dumb game catchup takes twice as long as everything else
HotS rejoining is retarded as fuck in eery aspect
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>>166587892

You use Q to position after getting most of your damage in with auto attacks, not the other way around. Overkill and grenade are finishers, not opening moves. Use Q to keep a good position whhile still doing damage, whether that be chasing or retreating. Grenade can be used during Overkill, so use it to finish or to push them closer/further away from you as needed, bit of a skillfloor using that correctly.

Use D as much as possible to stack up quest talent, and it does significantly more damage to tanks with high HP, but still shreds anyone. Use dash to dodge skillshots to get safer position coimg out of Q. Try not to use it to chase uless you have Odin up or have the range talent against heavy front line.
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>>166588186
>the bigger they are
>1vs1
You fucked up.
Should've gone dididididing quest instead and become immortal against that idiot.
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>>166588369
I know the stacking quest is better but I burned him so fast he had to run after 2 seconds of engaging and his whole team was squishy assasssins so they have to run as well.
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>>166588315
So I can't? I've been hitting buttons for a while now. Doesn't even allow me to normally exit the game again.

Nice game blizzdrones.
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>>166587589
Last game I played last night, I out-Rexxar'd an enemy Rexxar who had the Raider skin and got MVP, as I was rocking Master Rexxar.

THAT felt great.
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>>166587510

Turns out Tychus is preeeeetty good.
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>>166588490
A good chogall would wait for you to activate your D and ice block it
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>>166588565
he would also spend most of the game not being able to do that
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>>166586852
She's been out for 1 (ONE) day
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>>166588565
My team was lvl 14 when they hit 10
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>>166588565
D has no good tells except your life going down the drain within seconds.
Even if he "baits" it out with his stasis, he's still gonna eat anywhere between 8-16% health damage flat.
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>>166588730
The end of the minigun lights up when D is active
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>>166588692
I like Valeera the most. She's one of the most unpopular Hearthstone heroes. I still play her in Hearthstone despite that.
I was being clever and did not actually give an answer to your question while making it seem like I did. Except it was obvious as hell.
Meaning you're a dumbass.

Congratulations on that.
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What do I do on Abby?
People keep getting pissy that I'm not soaking in lane, but every match has nova/valeera so if I go out for even a second, it's ogre.
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>>166589023

Supreme map awareness, all you can do is try to be everywhere the enemy team isn't and soak as much as possible.
>>
Some bugs I've found recently

Monkey King Samuro's mirror images are always revealed to the enemy
The zerg waves on Braxis target Lunara's wisp over anything else, but are unable to attack it. This can be game breaking if you can protect the wisp.
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>>166587704
I'm hoping for Stukov soon. We have characters like Zagara and Dehaka, and Stukov beats them in popularity, so Blizz will probably add him eventually. It's only a matter of when.
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>>166589106
Would be easier if his tunnel wasn't on a 30 sec CD. If someone's hunting for me, most maps only take a few seconds to cross.
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So whats currently buggy? What should I avoid playing?
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>>166588542
fuck off and shave your facial hair you dirty greek
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>>166589468

Abathur isn't that easy to play in QM. Stealth heroes are his bane and they flood QM like a cancer because that's the only acceptable place to play them.
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>>166589530
several globe talents
Rag Q
Seasoned Marksman
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>>166587801
>Implying that FemDiablo will be a new character and not a legendary skin
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>>166589749
>Bronzpinions
Abathur's mines counter stealth heroes
Stop putting 5 mines in a single bush hoping for le ebin no scope
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>>166589831
>Rag Q
explain
>>
>be best player in our team
>voting screen
>every single faggot from our team is there except me
god fucking damn it that thing is so broken blizz should just remove it
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>>166589749
>bronze
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>>166589909
That's what I meant you cucklord. Stop interpreting me wrong based on your false assumptions made from a feeble brain.
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>>166589969
not him but I've seen it strike twice, or at least appear to a couple times per game
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>>166589749
I have to play him in qm because I know he's unfortunately shit and wouldn't survive anywhere else but the memest of modes.

>>166589961
Mines are nice for warding objectives, but they don't cc at all, so if someone's coming for me, all it does is tell me in advance that I'm going to die.
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>>166582209
>>166582347
Is spiders the go-to build? What about building zombies or frogs?
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>>166590298
The original question was
>What characters are being released next
To which you responded
>FemDiablo
I'm not twisting anything.
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>>166590536
If you actually manage to trap people in your zombie wall then you should just throw the game, because you are facing some very stupid people and should let them win out of pity.

Frogs don't do a lot of damage
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>>166581901
Spiders no longer spawn if you miss your Q. You can't just throw them down anywhere anymore
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>>166590380
>he doesn't go full teemo mine build

Take the talent that slows them by like 90% for five seconds, yo.
That on top of the damage talent against a bunch of squishies without a healer (ming, tracer) is brutal amounts of damage
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>>166590320
yeah, it does
you have to press Q just as an autoattack hits, and it'll strike twice
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>>166590923
I guess I could try it.
I remember awhile ago I tried a full-mine and didn't like it much but I'll give it another go.
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>>166591382
You don't have to go full mine, but you should pretty much always take vile nest
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great matchmaking !!1111!!!
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>>166590742
You can't read between the lines, shitlord. Thats all there is. Never reply to me again.
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im getting so pissed off at being first pick all the damn time
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>>166592204
>Never reply to me again
oh I will show you
>>
>have an abathur on the team
>lose

wow..... gets me pondering....
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>>166592191
>Stitches vs Stitches 2.0
>Stealth vs Stealth
>Demon vs Demon
>Naz vs. Boo
>human ranged AA with a gun vs human ranged AA with a gun
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>>166592404
play hl
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>>166592191

>quick match

No one cares? Quick match is a "play the guy you like!" Mode and in no way does that mean every match will be fair and balanced. Go play a draft mode to attempt at a fair counter game, otherwise be glad you queue time wasn't 87 minutes.
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>>166592489
>cursed hollow
>whichever team picks abathur still loses

:3!

>>166592191
Uh. What's the issue here, exactly?
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>>166592484
>>166592510
we won
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>>166592191

>picking stitches on purpose
>"WAHHH MY MATCH WASN'T FAAAAAIIIRRRR WAHHHH"

laffin
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>>166592565
level difference in teams
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>>166592609

Thanks for the useless posts then m8, cheers
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>>166592740
Account level means next to nothing, friend.
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>QM
>Pick a hero to counter all stealth
>They have 1 stealth
>Pick Jaina
>They have all stealth
xD
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Should I bother buying Artanis or is he going to be nerfed soon?
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>>166592804
people that played more compared to new players ?
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>>166594087
>qm
>play valeera
>enemy team have tass and anti-stealth heroes
>pick other hero
>both team have Valeera but there are no sigh of tass or other anti-stealth.


Is "xD" like the new way to say: i fucking hate all this shit?
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>>166594956
Quality over quantity.

I started up a fresh account, won my first dozen Quick Matches in a row and was immediately bumped up to playing with 40s. Level <10 account, mind you.

Anyways, there are people with thousands of games in Bronze, Silver and Gold.
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>>166564043
>Dreadlocks
Instant 0/10
>>
reminder that most of the skins in this game are trash
but are still better than shit like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xeq9l7DNY
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Pick Anub'arak in QM, Dampen Magic at lvl 1, Valeera can't do shit to you, get kinky
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>>166595875
>dreadlocks
External fallopian tubes my dude. She's the queen bitch for a reason.
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>>166596186
You are bronze
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>>166596181
Stop reposting shitty posts from shitty threads in /v/ you fucking loser.
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>>166596280
I guess you are, too
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>>166596336
make me
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>>166596186
Valeera won't do shit to you but he will fuck up everyone else
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>>166596181
You have got to be kidding me.
>>
why does every fucking game have nova now?
Not enough that I have to put up with the idiotic valeera's who run into 1 vs 5 thinking they can pull off the combo and delete squishies but to have 2 fucking squishies in every match countered by tass...
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>>166596181
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>166596536
He has 2 stuns and a Cocoon, if you want that, yo u can make something work if you can hit skillshots
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>>166596669
Smite's an alright game but the devs have a pretty shitty sense of humor
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>>166596653
>2017
>People STILL think Tass counters high burst assassins because he can see them before they kill his team
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>>166597271
>being able to reveal ambushers/assassins doesn't help
>applying a large, instant shield doesn't affect their assassination potential
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Ragnaros should have been a specialist.

Debate me? Or don't I don't really mind.
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>>166597495
Does it really matter? Is a pointless label.
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>>166597418
>Apply a large shield to Jaina
>Zeratul kills Li Ming instead
Nice job
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>>166597495
A lot of people think so, he probably should have been, yeah.
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>>166597495
>labels meaning anything

>>166597684
>two mages

hm

also that's why you wait until they go in

then shield the thing they tryna kill
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>>166597495
He's a bit of a specialist but more of an assassin because his specialist theme has a long CD compared to what other specialist heroes can do.
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>>166597495

He's a hero that's good at doing AOE damage to heroes which happens to be good at killing loads of minions, but a hero that is made to kill loads of minions that can do AOE damage to heroes.

There's a difference.
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>ranged sustained damage dealer that shits out creep
>ranged sustained damage dealer that turns buildings off

The Specialist label really shouldn't be for anything other than stuff like Vikings and Abathur.

>dude ragnaros can turn into a fort that makes him a specialist even though he's basically thrall

Fuck off.
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Another game, another bot teammate. What the fuck is with this game and connection issues? It's unbearable.
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>>166599816
Same
>Bot Rag
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so who lanes well against rag? talking about high level HL here

thralls self sustain is not enough
alarak is even worse
dehaka has to B and burrow back, wasting his global presence when an objective pops
chen i haven't tried, wondering how good of a matchup he is
anyone else?
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>>166599014
What makes me think Rag should have been a Specialist is the fact that his trait and Lava Wave are both defensive, whilst his E is also largely supportive, and his wave clear is fantastic. That's about it, aside form thath e's got Assassin numbers.
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>>166599816

>legit afk abathur
>end of game
>"i grandmaster"

kill me
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>>166600225
>"i grandmaster"
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>>166600180
his trait isn't necessarily defensive, it's only easier to use it as such

the same goes for lava wave
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>>166599816
I'm experiencing constant lag during my matches since the update, either Blizz fucked up yet again or someone is trying to fuck them up
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>>166600140
thrall's fine in my experience

i think zul'jin might have a shot at it too
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>>166601740
>le new
>le sexy female
>le stealth
>le burst assassin

guess what, all the 13 year old counter-strike pros are coming out of the woodworks and flock to valeera like its gonna help them get laid
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Daily reminder to NEVER SEXUALIZE LILI
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>>166602101
Why would you ever sexualize Li Li when there's a perfectly good Chen?
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>>166602272
Bara is for faggots.
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>butcher is free this week
Well I guess I'm not going to play QM at all, he autocucks all my favorite heroes...

How is unranked draft? Which fotm cancer should I prioritize banning?
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>>166602375
>not being a gay
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So how's new Tassdar.
I bet he's strong and dumb fucking reddit memers were wrong once again calling him weak.
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>>166603091
He's good if you don't like the following things

>doing damage
>having more than one useful skill per teamfight
>surviving
>having mana
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>>166602448
>when you have ult up and they think they can 2v1 you

butch pretty fun in low elo
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>>166603091
He's undertuned.
A lot of his problems are pure numbers.

>it takes a good 10 seconds or so to kill a minion at 1/3 health with AA
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>>166603534
I guess, it's not really fun playing KT or guldan and getting farmed by butcher every time his stupid ult is off cooldown. I just want to play wizard tennis, not spend 20 minutes making some butcher picking autist feel clever.
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>All these Valeeras and not a single one of them with the balls and skill to pull off Cloak of Shadows

Come on, I was expecting more out of people. It's a great ult.
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>>166603576
>abathur does higher AA damage than tassadar does
i mean i don't mind them scaling down damage numbers a little but tassadar wasn't really one of those big offenders
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>>166603798
I don't know feel like the "you can't touch me skill while I dps is good". I see Cloak could be amazing I've seen good Valeera's use it and get lots of value out of it.
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>>166603798
>you have balls if you picka subpar ulti

/hotsg/ the birthplace of guillotine meme.
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>TFW you work your ass off and win with dumb teammates with your core at 16%.

Fucking had to force feed them the win. Only one defending mercs and catas at our core all game.
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>>166603798
cloak of shadows is cancer in WoW and I hope it's shit in HotS

fuck rogues
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>>166603798
It's great and yet still worse than Smoke Bomb in most games, the 20 upgrade is nice though
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>>166604451
t. warlocuck
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What other heroes besides tass can counter stealth? I'm sick of these faggots.
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>>166604321
>literally me a few games ago
>Playing Arthas because Free week and need to get a hero to 5
>Get a Lilim and Azmodan
>Az is going taste for blood So he needs to farm a little
>Lili goes nuts seeing Az not helping after minutes and Az a few stacks
>Lili says "Can someon babysit this Az for a bit "
>Az goes nuts and says "Afk top not gonna help"
>Lili and Az go back and forth arguing and dying
>Literally tell them to shut the fuck up mute each
>Az going taste for blood since we get into late game
>Orbs dealing like half the enemies hero half
>Win with 58% on core
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>>166604604
heh
*teleports behind you*
*stuns you*
*bursts you for half your health*
*pops 7 defensives and turns invisible*
nothing personel.... kid
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>>166604451
>3 second silence
>6 second stun
>5 second magic immunity

>>166604752
Hey, remember the 12 second kidneys of s16?
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>>166603798
She needs Sap
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>>166604736
It didn't help my Zul'jin was literally retarded.

He chased Valeera solo, every time. She'd just vanish and Kidney shot and finish him off when he ulted. He was so bad. He walked into Anub'arak all the time too.
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>tfw playing varian and fucking over all these valeeras

GET FUCKING WARRIOR'D, STEALTHY FUCKS
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>>166604953
Sort of surprised she didn't get that even as a talent, honestly. Are there any CC abilities in hots that currently break on damage, though?

A little point-click 2-4 second incapacitate from stealth that breaks on damage might've been neat.
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>>166605034
>Go Varian
>Go arms
>AHHHHH!!!!! into charge auto q
>Kill her instantly
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>>166603091

I've found him to be very strong, takes a while for his skills to really git gud but once you complete the lvl 1 talent quest he is strong as fuck. Also permanent Archon with double storm is fun
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>>166604646
Anybody with that scouting drone thing?
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>>166604953
she needs a talent call fan of knives that increase the range of her W but lower its damage by half, or make it a talent that just gives her an extra aoe
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>>166605178
its like im really playing arena
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>>166596653
still why so many novas(on my team), I don't get annoyed by stealthcucks since most of them in QM don't realize that they are actually visible.
No Zeratuls tho, even though superior stealth hero in every way.
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>>166604646
Looking at your screen is a good tip
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>>166605985
zeratul is harder to paly
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>>166604646

Johanna
Medivh
Tracer (only if you can catch them uncloaked with tracer round)
Rexxar flare is OP
Anyone with easy near instant AOE/ ranged ability
Anyone with vision talents
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>>166604646
anything with Burning Rage
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>>166517336
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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>>166604752
>tfw frost DK and sustain their damage with my damage
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>>166606613
>Tracer (only if you can catch them uncloaked with tracer round)
>Get a tracer on the enemy team while we have Valeera
>Tell her after the game that it's much better to get Tracer rounds if there a hero you can go stealth
>He says thanks for the tip and continues playing tracer asking me for which ultimate to take.
>I tell him Blue if they have really tanky hero you need to take down
>Or pulse rounds for standard
>I tell him I usually go blue just so I just get enough damage to kill a target
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>>166606851

Tracer rounds is also really good on maps with a lot of twists and turns where you can lose sight of people from juking. Cursed Hallow is an excellent example of this.
>>
which characters do you only like for their alternate Skins, as I don't care for overwatch Specter Tracer is a nice way to enjoy her gameplay as a starcraft fan
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>>166515756

Is there a standard Rag build? I've been going explosion build + sulfuras smash and heroic difficulty at 20. I feel useful in teamfights, capable of ganking, and heroic difficulty is fucking amazing, making pushing into your core miserable.

I really didn't enjoy Rag at first but switching to Sulf Smash has made him way more fun, I'm hoping they don't dumpster him in a week.
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>40% winrate
what happened to the retards calling valeera OP?
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>>166608680
mostly Q talents

pick the thing that makes you resistant when you get stunned if you feel like it

you do your thing at 10 and 20
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>>166608851
Every one of my games have a Valeera in it
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>>166608680
>1 Q
>4 Spell Block or Globes
>7 Q
>13 Resilient Flame if they have ANY stuns, if not Q again
>16 Q
>20 just pick a talent xd u already won
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Gonna buy chromie.
What is her best talent build
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>>166608876
>>166608919

Yeah I've heard that, kind of a shame as I find the double explosions that slow to be much more fun and gank-oriented. I'll try it out though, being able to stay in fights longer with the additional healing could be nice.
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>tfw you are only good with Protoss Heroes

do i have a problem?
I already have Tassadar, Zeratul, Artanis, and Alarak at 10 and no one else even close
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I hope the person that approved the release of the rooster race is raped in the ass by a hot poker.
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>>166609584
aren't you entitled?
>>
Ancient of War hero when?
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>>166609907
>he wants to be a fort
??
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>>166607906
The only paid skin I have liked enough to get is Ringmaster Greymane. I fucking LOVED the Sharpclaw cat people in Draenor, and I'm a sucker for carnival themes. That skin makes Greymane much more enjoyable for me, but that's about it.

On the subject of carnival themes, fuck I wish Gazlowe's robot looked better in his Big Top skin. Gazlowe himself is pimpin', but his robot is so meh. It's more the head than anything, the body is actually pretty great, but the head just looks so bad to me.
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>>166609984
>>166609907
Hero that replaces your core when?
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>>166610064
>Mfw this used to be old Rag
>>
>tank goes 50% hp before teamfight
>doesn't go base when being told and pinged
>we lose game
huh
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>>166610064
>warcraft event with 2 wc maps this September
>ancient core
We literally dota now
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>>166610408
fug i need dis
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>>166609389
keep doing what you do. Lvl 20 or bust. En Taro Adun.
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>>166610064
>Hero that replaces your core when?
Overmind?
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>>166610708
Probably gonna be a ZvZ map with overmind vs overmind
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>tfw Samuro has been gutted so much he's useless in any game
>because shitters still exist, his winrate is high
>probably keep getting nerfs

feelsu badu
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>>166610753
>Not celebrate vs celebrate or just a single celebrate experimenting.
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>>166610320
Retarded warrior players make me more upset then any of the dumb assassin players I've run into.
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>>166610753
>>166610838
Why not it being Queens(your core)that collect zerg eggs around the map as the objective.
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>>166611097
>Not Hatcheries that spawn queens to collect eggs
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>>166611206
>not Overminds that spawn Hatcheries that spawn queens to collect eggs
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How do you guys build alarak anyway?
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>>166610509
Dragoon when?
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>>166605069
When they add in a Dreadlord, they could have Sleep, which, if true to its WC3 counterpart, would incapacitate them for a long duration but be interrupted by any kind of damage at all, wither from allies or enemies. If sleeped, allies would probably be able to A-click you to wake you up.
So yea. Sap coulda functioned like that.
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>>166611735
Telekinesis distance,Q area, Q damage, whatever ult, Pure Malice/Telekinesis damage, Telekinesis range/E healing, whatever(but most of the times second ult)
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>>166596186
silence still means you can't escape for 2 seconds if it's a coordinated gank.

Otherwise sure, Anub is great for that sort of thing
>>
Did you guys see the crazy cleav on Lunar Ming?
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>>166612157

You willingly reduce your damage output? Not judging it just seems mad, the distance make it worth while?
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>>166609984
>Spawns sexy nelf Huntresses and Archers instead of minions and casters
Hell yea I wanna be a fort
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>>166612382
It doesn't really decrease it since it helps your escape and helps you land combos. Being alive and hitting people means more damage overall.
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>try out butcher for the first time
>any CC just murders me
>squishy as fuck and melee
>valeera probably has way more HP than butcher does
>she straight up one-shoots me (three levels ahead)
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>>166612425
Me too
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>>166612556
desu you're a walking stun until you finish your 125 meat stacks and/or get lambs

at least you can soak exp i guess
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>>166612382
With that build, only by 20% which isn't a lot considering the utility
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>>166612556
Valeera has about 5% less HP than the Butcher, but a smaller hitbox.
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>>166613331

I'm more than happy to give it a try, I really want to like alarak and I do but he feels so.. unfinished I think, I dunno it's weird.
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Man, I hate this. We were all playing okay. We were winning pretty hard, but people started ignoring pings and splitting up and we ended up just dying.

22-26, everyone's deaths at about 4-5. Just... bronze.
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>>166613850
>really good game, even all around
>one person on the other team has brain fog and just sits in lane by himself
>we get a pick on him
>feel bad for other team as we take a boss they can't even attempt to contest
>push
>win

pretty anticlimactic desu
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>>166614382
In one way or another, this pretty much sums up every HotS game. It's about which team has the one single most retarded person on the team.
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>>166614382
You now realize that for every post here claiming that their team had a retard doing retarded shit causing them to lose, there is someone feeling like you did just now
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>tfw MVP as Johanna
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>>166615112
Well, yeah. Nobody ever complains about the other team fucking up and throwing the game.

>>166613502
>Valeera
>hp comparable to The Butcher

I mean, it sort of makes sense. I'll bet they knew she would have a miserable win rate because of her rather...precise? kit.

>ranged poke
>escape
>team fight
>waveclear
>push potential

Still curious as to her week 1 win rate. Standing by my bottom 10, although now I'm wishing I said bottom 5.
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So now that we have Valeera, who seems to be an infinitely more useful and safer, just all-around better pick than Nova... when the fuck will they re-haul Nova? They have to, there's no way they leave her as is.
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>>166615643
They DID rehaul Nova, and she ended up worse off for it.
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>>166615551

Is Valeera better at high level? hotslogs is ad-cucking me.

If they buff her I hope it's more in terms of her control than her damage, having a stealth character that isn't so damage-focused would be nice.
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>>166615769
Dunno, I'll check after this Bg. Probably a shitty sample size.


Yeah, I'm curious as to whether they'll push her further into her niche, buff her damage or just leave her alone like Alarak.

Unless I'm retarded and missed a bunch of Alarak changes. Regardless, she'll probably be down there with Medivh, Abathur and Stitches, but scaling with MMR, not unlike Medivh.

Like, at least Nova can maintain some distance, but Valeera has to really get in there.

>hope she has a <40% win rate and nobody picks/bans her, but that's unlikely
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>>166615769
>>166616048

Masters and diamond
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>>166613502
>5% less HP than the butcher
I mean, Butcher is still fucking garbage because he has no escapes whatsoever still.
>>
So Tass was changed enough that he's arguably better in some areas now.

But Rexxar seems worse all around.
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>play rexxar in rotation last week and find him really fun
>this patch his control scheme for misha is absolute shit

why can't they roll it back lads
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>>166616191

>below Uther

What a disaster
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>>166616191

Masters only. Looks like they nailed it.
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Who is the best???
Anub or Tyrael?
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>>166616778
Both trash
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>>166616778

Tyrael good more often, but harder to play
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>>166616191
>>166616740

I hope Cho'gall gets buffed in some way, he's such a fun hero but all the stars need to align for him to be a decent pick and even then he's not amazing. I find it odd they haven't touched him in so long despite being one of the worst performing heroes and almost never being seen in professional play.
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>>166616895
solo queue cho'gall for QM and Vs. AI when
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>>166612157

I gotta admit this is the fourth game with this build and it's went very well, thanks anon.
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>>166616778
>>166616846
>>166616876
They're both equally the best warriors and heroes in heroes of the hots.
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This Chen had a Master Skin and everything. It makes me feel BAD about having a Chen Master skin. Both him and Lunara just stood in Gazlowe turrets.

Like they weren't there. And yeah, shielding brew will totally stop you from dying to an Art. Of course.

I played like garbage too so whatever. I guess I can't just, just frustrating.
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>>166617028

Tip: Take counter Strike if the enemy team has a lot of front line. Use if to invalidate CC and block big burst. If it's all assassin QM, Charge might do you better to dive past and cut off or secure kills.
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>>166617028
You're welcome,anon. The Highlord is really fun
When you're more confortable with him try going for some crazier shit like Hasty Bargain.

Also if the enemy team has an Auriel:pick Counter Strike.When she Crystal Aegis someone time is just right so the crystal detonation triggers CS. Guaranteed kill
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>>166612045
Tonight, in our dreams.
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>>166617614

Hasty bargain looks like one hell of a gamble though anon, Not sure I'm reading to lose that much output!
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>>166617197
>their tassadar has 20k more damage shielded

hmm
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>opened up more than 11 wins over loses in HL
>back to just 4 more wins than loses
Fuck man. Really gets under my skin
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>>166619228
>that guy who is the first to say gg after a bg
>he's the reason you lost
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>>166619468

>"you guys suck"
>says the fucker never at fights and has 0.2% more hero damage than the #2 guy on the team so his number is highlighted
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Quick question from someone who rarely plays Johanna but wants to level her up.

Is there any reason at all to take blessed hammer? it seems like a terrible talent.
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>>166619551

Wave clear and can be sometimes good for vision. I always take it on Braxis and Spider Tomb.
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>>166619551
it's free damage, between that and burning rage you're doing a lot of passive damage while being in the middle of the enemy team
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>do terrible with the butcher
>almost at the urge of just dropping him because of how depressing that first time was
>check out how to play the butcher
>mfw i get MVP and hard carry a match with a valla bot in my team
What a fucking hilarious hero. I love this fucker.
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>>166602272
>>166602375
>>166602101
REMOVE THE PANDA LOVERS
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>>166609389
Who is that mecha protoss?
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Do I deserve to be in Masters or what?
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>>166621045
Talanadar aka Fenix.
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>>166621341
Again?
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>>166621446
Kinda.
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>people who have no idea what to do on the event are the first ones to just pick up the needed item and stand there with it
bans for retards when?
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>>166621446
basically Mecha Fenix

a Purifier Dragoon with the Memories of Fenix
Purifiers are Robots build by Protoss with the Memories of Protoss

He starts out thinking hes Fenix in a Dragoons body but as time goes on He realizes hes not actually Fenix so he decided to Honor Him and rename himself Talanadar
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>>166621797
>get into Vs. AI game
>don't know how event works so don't touch anything
>get called shit by two people for not helping
>tfw we didn't get a single thing handed in

>>166621334
pretty clean
stitches meets his superior
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>>166621870
And the thing is, it is a relatively young copy of him. Way before SC1 and he is amazed at what the real Fenix did, which are all action movie references.
>>
Who will be the fifth invis hero?
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>>166622206
this nigga
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>>166622206
>>
>>166622206

Well, we're never going to see Maiev.
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>>166622206
Most likely Tosh.
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>>166622206
Solid Snake
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>>166621932
I would much rather have someone not help in this one if they don't know, the other events have just been pick up x quickly this one is pick up the correct item and turn it in in an order.
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>>166621334
>In such a bad position to begin with
No.
>Against those shitters
Double no.
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>Still no Stukov.
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>>166572264
niggah
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Where the FUCK is Superman?
>>
>>166564090
BigCow when?
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>>166555696
If she looks anything like that then I'm ok with it.
Ana from overwatch is pretty OK so maybe Blizz got this
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>>166597495
his balance is so bad he's an assassin. if there was more emphasis on making plays with the trait there'd be an argument but right now it's more of a bonus mana saver.
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>>166621870

It's Talandar YOU UNCULTURED SWINE

Na I understand the mistake though!
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>>166622301

>They add him as an anti carry that hunts other stealthers

MAKE IT HAPPEN MON
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when will hero prices drop again?
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>>166623365
Only if he can Ride in the Apocalisk
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>>166623892
After I buy them

Every time

Every single one
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>>166623845
a detection hero? that's a really neat idea
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>>166623395
Jesus that is great.
Someone really spent the time doing it
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>>166624376

Other than tass we don't really have any serious anti stealth mechanics and if they're going to keep adding to the problem we should at least get a solution to counter it. I know that they don't win games or anything but those stealth chars can be a serious pain in the dick sometimes.
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Zera+ETC is downright filthy and gives me cancer.
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>>166623395
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Best Rexxar NA here (you all know me). Anyone who thinks Rexxar is worse is a total scrub. His talents are much better now that you can get easy prey and hungry bear. You can self cast your trait for follow Misha and it has no arbitrary CD like the old follow misha. Any idiot who thinks his AI is worse doesn't know how to play Rexxar and should play another hero. If you are not pressing focus misha as much as right click, play another hero. You only use follow misha so misha can run back toward Rexxar for .2 seconds before you issue a focus misha command. There would be no need for follow misha at all if the mouse could be in 2 places at once.

Stop crying, scrubs. As someone way better than all of you at Rexxar, I say it was a huge buff.
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>Varian utterly destroys Valeera

What did they mean by this?
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>>166626089
>A guy made of CC destroys someone weak to CC.
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>>166625627
what is focus misha
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>>166626089
BHC
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>>166625627
ok
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>>166624489
That's old though.
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>>166625627
Don't preach to the choir.

I sincerely hope they don't make Misha two-button controlled again. single button feels more fluid. I wish that retarded post on the front page of the HotS Reddit would go down already.
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>>166626295

Recognize greatness when you see it, peasant.

>>166626401

Follow misha is nice. I already described why; you can't have the mouse in 2 places at once so sometimes its better to press follow misha when you need to issue Rexxar a command. Follow misha still exists though... it's actually just BETTER than before, which is funny, because most retards think it doesn't exist anymore.
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i CAN'T Stop playing this trashy SLUT!
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>>166627247

Don't talk about Jimmy like that.
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>>166626401

What's your build anon? I'm gonna give him a go after this game.
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>>166627247
Neko Nova when?
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>>166622206
Who's the fourth?

There's Nova, Zeratul, and Valeera.

Tassadar?
Hammer?
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So which globe quests are bugged? I get a different answer every time I ask, some say all of them and some say only stitches
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is valeera op enough to be worth 15k?
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>>166627984
Olaf and Stitches are the two I know.

All regen globe quests are shit anyway.
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>>166628092
Meh, is a better zera, with a stun.
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I know it's not very wise but god damn these movement traits for dehaka. zozoooooom
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>tfw the second counter in the HL tab will forever remain at 0
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>>166572264
>>166623395

proof that it's coming? I only know the fan-art pic
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how the fuck do you beat auriel's healing late game
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>>166627367
Depends on the map/comp.

All three 1s are viable, I love the new Flare, feels much better. I prefer Bird of Prey most of the time otherwise, though like that anon said, you can get Easy Prey and Hungry bear now, which is great on bigger maps where mercs have more value.

Tier 4, if I feel like Rexxar might have to take a lot of poke, Hunter-Gatherer for sure (Assuming you'll be able to finish it, some maps are harder than others when it comes to globe stacking), obviously Grizzled if against Zul or something, Misha will need it as much as Rexxar. Most of the time I end up going Hunter-Gatherer. I don't like Animal Husbandry just because if I fuck up and lose stacks, I hate myself. Others may like it more, I don't.

For 7, I always go Aspect, great with Misha's increased movement speed and the 16 speed talent if you take it. Crippling is GOOD, but I feel like Aspect's value went up, bypassing it.

I've always gone Boars (Unless I'm going Specialist Rexxar on a big map, and feel confident I can take bosses just fine), but I feel like Bestial is probably faring better now with the increased speed and all that. I should try it more often, never fit my playstyle is all.

For 13, Wildfire Bear is GREAT against stealth, otherwise I actually really love this new Dire Beast talent. Maybe someone has a better time with it, with the way THEY play Rexxar, but I do not see any point in Aspect of the Hawk.

For 16, Thrill of the Hunt is my absolute favorite, I'm so happy they moved it to this tier. I always take it UNLESS I absolutely need one of the other two, which these days I feel like I don't REALLY need Primal Intimidation, but if your team has been having an especially hard time with their Raynor or Valla or something, and you don't think anyone is really going to be able to do anything about them for a bit, then of course Primal instead. And of course Feign for dodging shit.

20 Kill Command almost always, unless you truly do need Hardened Skin.
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>>166629036
And I should point out, if you think Rexxar is generally going to be alright, Hungry Bear for sure. Misha's still the central component, and it's always pretty great, it's just sometimes you WILL need Grizzly or Hunter-Gatherer in those situations.
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>>166629035
Her heal has a cooldown, you know.

After she uses that first heal, the enemy team is down a healer and you need to burst her down fast.

If they clump up for maximum heals, that just means you blow them up with AoE.
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>>166629036

Confirmed plat or below.
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Is it worth it giving squishies like vaala the D as tychus?
What is the best build if there is no tonk on the enemy team?
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>>166629036
boars instead of bestial?
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>>166629282
say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens

>>166629450
For me personally, yeah. I never meshed well with Bestial to begin with, but I know it's good. Try it in situations you think it would be a better idea than the peel//initiate Boars offers, you'll probably have a better time with it than I have. I just never liked it, is all. Just make sure you're still peeling when it's necessary.
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>>166623892
valeera next week to 10k for the regular new hero system. anything other than that is a mystery until the shop announcements fridays or patches.

keep any eye out for another overwatch type event if you aren't playing regularly. that was a hell of a lot of free characters for an afternoon of games.

>>166628092
if you own like 40-50 characters and have no interests in saving for gold mounts maybe.
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>>166596181
That is so over the top awful that it makes me want it. Like the Alpine Stalker set in DotA.
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Oh i'm sorry, is this supposed to make me feel better?
i want this glasshalffull meme to go
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I don't understand the rooster race i always collect as many items on the ground as i can but every time it says that i failed to please the BBC
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>>166630367
Literally pick and bring the cock item (the one that appears in a circle at top of the screens), the problem with it is that only one team can win and sometimes the event don't appears at the start at all.

Is really frustrating.
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>>166630367
There is a circle at the top that gives you a picture of the item you need to pick up and bring to the rooster. The pictures changes after you give the rooster the correct item, you need to match the picture correctly 4 times.
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>>166630239
>win
>finish 2 quests
>did better than usual
>Still somehow this much of a sour cunt
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>>166628224

actually that's not true. zarya's and tassadar's are mandatory.
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>>166631181
I haven't tried new Tassadar but why Zarya?
>>
It finally happened /hotsg/.
After 3k games I got a whisper of butthurt telling me how much I suck.
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>>166631181
>tassadar's are mandatory.

only if you Build for shields and not Psi Storm
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>>166631268

because it makes her shield ally bigger AND have a shorter cooldown. with cleansing shield you get a base 720 point shield that removes CC on a 7 second cooldown.
>>
What do I have to block on hotslogs to avoid the fucking anti adblock bullshit?
>>
I don't understand the rooster race i always collect as many items on the ground as i can but every time it says that i failed to please the BBC
>>
Did I really just throw away 10k gold on varian? He looks fun but I can't survive shit even with the tank spec.
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>>166631814

no, he's actually really good, especially after the warbringer buff, and people are going to start realizing this fast.

what you have to realize is he's a spellcaster. you charge someone, auto, lion's maw, and then you walk away. once you get taunt, you use that once charge stun is about to end.

collosus smash is really good on only a few maps, the clusterfuck maps like haunted mines, spider queen, and towers of doom. you do the same thing except collosus smash before charging.

if you're dying get the armor banner and put that down behind you after you charge in.
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>>166631769
Because the other team is faster
Because some fuck on your team is afk
>>
why are so many people at higher ranks really bad? is it because placements are too generous? because mmr doesn't reset at the start of the season?
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>>166631949
>do all of this
>take victory rush for even greater effect
>people tell me I'm doing it wrong by not taking HKQ and Second wind
>do nothing but good with him each time I play him
Why does anyone skip Lion's maw?

And armor banner is really the only one I grab.
Giving your team +25% health is too insane for any fight, especially on objective heavy maps.
The chase/escape provided by stormwind banner just doesn't compare, and ability power should only be taken if you entire team is built around getting picks.
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>>166632420
but i don't understand the items, do i pick up everything or only some?
and if someone ignores the race does it mean we automatically fail?
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>>166632603
Matchmaking is total shit and rank means next to nothing.
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>>166632603

it's because blizzard is extremely generous with the rankings. diamonds in hots play like platinums in league.
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>>166632786
You have to find the item the rooster is searching for
The one displayed in the middle of the bar

>>166633016
tbf famalam Plat in league is like top 25%
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So, how is Tassadar and Rexxar rework?
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>>166633736
Rexxar is awful unless you can manage to stay alive for 10 minutes while still having a presence in the game.
Tass is pretty much the same as before, low damage and annoying as fuck but can only really shine if his team isn't shit.
If you take Archon you need to upgrade it at 20 so you can stay in the form as long as there's a fight, and if you grab archon you want attack range too.
The passive 30% on force wall is only noticeable sometimes (when your team isn't shit) but taking it at 20 allows you to take a number of options at 20, all of them are great.
Slowing 3 people for 30% for as long as you stand there is amazing since the beam has great range and prioritizes heroes, not to mention if one leaves the range then it automatically finds another.
Shield Battery gives baseline plasma shield to everyone, which is a lot better than Storm shield because 20% lifesteal.
Upgraded wall is really fun too but it doesn't do much in terms of pure numbers.
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>>166627762
TLV and Tyrande have stealth talents too.

So in reality, there are already 7 invis heroes.
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>>166634008
Tassadar's invulnerability shouldn't count as stealth.
Dehaka's persists out of statis, so even though it's talent it's still more stealth than Tassadar is.
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>>166633736
rexxar is kinda nothing and tass is gonna take another month of balance changes. good ideas with talents but feels like a boat anchor until 16 or even 20 archon sometimes.
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>>166633995
40 globes quest is possible to do?
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>Your team gets wiped
>But you get one kill
>"Looks like our plans are falling into place" or something similar
>MFW
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>>166634245
No
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Who would you rather have as the 5th protoss?
Fenix as a spec?
Selendis as a support?
Hybrid as a multiclass?
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>>166634838
SUPERMAN AS A PROTOSS
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>it's another episode of your team ignores the hammer
This is in diamond
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>>166634838
Why would Fenix be a spec? Which Fenix? Zealot, Dragoon or Purifier?
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>>166635021
>throw stim drone on hammer
>they exit siege mode despite having 2 people in range
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>>166625627
How to Rexxar, Master?
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>>166635128
They originally planned for Fenix to be a warrior with a ressurect mechanic but Leoric's release pushed that back.
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when will they revert the artanis flip shit
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>>166635303
As soon as ETC, Mura and Jo stop being amazing.
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>>166635197
>He doesn't know Siege mode just hinders you
>>
I love how people are playing tracer just because she moves quick for the rooster race
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>>166635936
So what you are saying is that tracer is the first to get the cock?
I thought she was a lesbian
>>
>>166636039

haha lol dude where do i upvote this
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>>166636067
You need a 4chan gold or platinum account for that
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What's with the large amount of "QM pls" posts in the pub chats?

Is there a particular reason people are bitching about AI groups when the Nexus challenge was just a couple weeks ago?
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>>166636182
Vs AI you don't have to race the other team.
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>>166636416
Yeah, so then why ask for QM?
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>>166636551
Those are idiots that complain about the 5s+ longer queue times in qm, they want others to stop playing AI.
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>>166636039
C O C K L M A O
C
O
C
K
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M
A
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>>166636949
God I love this event.
The amount of SJWs getting triggered by cockjokes is great.
>>
Why every once in a while does a game just take 50 years to fucking load?
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>>166638043
Someone have a shitty pc
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>>166638043
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>>166617197
nigger stop playing quickmatch and posting about it here. the games are not balanced, mmr is barely involved, it favors mirrors whenever it can, its just fucking trash and youre trash for caring about it.
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>>166640691

EARLY MORNING NEW
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>>166585041
That sounds pretty unlikely unless the enemy team legit is trying to let you do it.

Shooting for even two as opposed to landing the first opportunity seems like a good way to die and achieve nothing.
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