/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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So who is ready for twitchfaggots to spoil DLC again and all their braindead fanboys to spread the spoilers?

>get killed by a buff-glitch shitter while going through the area after pontiff
>respawn
>fog walls on the doors even though I'm inside the room
wat

>>166006827
I really appreciate you posting this in everything.

>tfw you will never be smushed by the dancer's butt

DLC2 trailer when ?

>>166007592
Hopefully next week. Also, some anon said a few threads ago that a trailer will be out on Jan 26th.

>>166007691

Is there ANY confirmation or hint as to when we can expect an announcement?

A few days ago their twitter said "Real Soon :D", but frankly, in developer terms that could just mean "Before December 2017 LOL".

>news about second dlc
>last demo of nioh and then its release
Next few weeks are going to be sweet.

>>166008454
Sweet for some people...

>tfw poorfag

What kind of bossfights are you hoping to see in DLC2?

>>166008905

I want there to be four bosses.
Each one has three stages, except for the last boss which has five stages AND will constantly resurrect every time it's killed, unless you manage to find a side route from outside up to an alternate area in the boss room where you'll find some little faggot hollow playing with weird astrological shit.

>>166008905
>tfw one of the bosses will inevitably be a reskinned Orphan

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>>166009017
Don't even joke about that it was a fucking awful mechanic the first time

>>166008905
A real meaty amount of content. I do enjoy AoA but with this next DLC being the last content for the game we need more than "lmao2bosses", I'm not going to do the whole "it's less than an hour long" because that's just bullshit running through and only doing the bosses, the entire fucking game is only like 5-6 hours at most if you do that. It was shorter than I was expecting however, so we really need a DLC with a large amount of varied content to make up for it.

>>166009627
The shortness thing about AoA seems like bullshit. The major failing is it only have two bosses with a massive quality disparity between them.

>>166008905
I want an O&S fight except instead of two guys there are three. When 1 is killed, the remaining 2 combine in the second phase. This means there would be 3 possible second phase boss types.

Do you guys think Aldia will turn up in the DLC? He was the only good lore figure from 2, and his lore is significant enough to at very least be mentioned in the last Souls release we will ever see, at least in my opinion.

>>166009627
>just realised the question only asked about bossfights
shit.
regardless, some stuff we haven't gotten before. I don't want another "SURPRISE this dude resurrects multiple times!" boss or more "big dude with big sword" ones. Something I don't think is done enough is a boss that's really really impacted and changed by the level leading up to it, like the same concept as burning the windmill in DaS2 to remove the poison, but a whole lot more. We already know the DaS world has contructs/golems, maybe play on that. You can change a fuckload of stuff in the area that makes the area harder/easier/different and these changes also effect the boss, swapping segments of it's body or changing the arena. Carefully balanced so that no combination was objectively easier than the others it could be really fucking cool figuring out what does what to the boss and then "tailoring" it to the version you want to fight that time round. Not to mention the possibilities for "muh branching paths and explorable area" before it.

>>166008905
There's probably going to be 2 or 3 boss fights. If it's indeed Londor then i expect the first to be some sort of a highly-ranked Londor official, maybe a leader of Darkwraiths (Jar-Eel?), and the final one is obviously the Dark Soul.

>>166009819
no shitty ds2 lore allowed

>>166008905
Something like the bed of chaos with the ground falling away mixed with the gank squad fight.

>>166008357
There's a Bamco event next week where some e-celebs will get to try the new DLC. The announcement trailer will probably be released then, while the footage they record at the event seems to have an embargo that will last a few weeks.

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>>166009998
>dasfags still mad they retconned all giants to anusfaces

>>166010074
>There can only be one kind of giants in the entire world

>>166010074
what the fuck were they even doing with that in DaS2? There's even that one model you can still see (I think it's in one of the memories) that has their original face model on it, granted it looks like ass but it still brings up the question of why they bothered changing it from DaS1 at all? And why to a giant fucking hole of all things?

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Why does blood always just show up as your character wearing blackface?

>SotFS
sl 150 or 200 for arena?

>>166010147
That's a picture of a DaS1 giant with an iron grate mask, but with an updated DaS3 model. Fucking look at it, it has a giant hole right in the middle of their non-face, while the model from DaS1 had small beady eyes was almost flat.
Aside from Undead Settlement, you can find them in Anor Londo, right next to drang knights. As we all know, Vendrick went to "some distant land" and snatched some giants for his brother to experiment on. I think it's pretty safe to say that the drang knights we see are remnants of his invasion and deserters that went rogue and became mercenaries, but that's just my retarded headcanon that might make sense to me exclusively.
>>166010245
Probaby because it looks more original, or something along the lines.
I dont know, honestly I would theoreticize that it might have some connection to countless hollows half transformed into trees, Sulyvahn having flandere twig wings and face covered in vines and the fact that early The Know screenshots showed us High Wall at night completely overrun with black vegetation, but it seems that this plotline got scrapped or something.

>>166010330
Probably because it's supposed to be "ashen" or something. Bloodborne had so much better blood effects.

>>166009936
Jar-Eel looks and sounds stupid so he'll probably be From's pick.

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>>166010245
Don't know. They had faces pre-release as evidence by some concept art and some early models shown in an IGN tour of From's studio.The one in the memory is probably a leftover they forgot to remove (it's even there in SotFS).

Is there a way to calculate the drop % of a particular object?
The only information I got is that the drop chance of the object I'm looking for is 'rare'

Anyone know how the two handing strength bonus works for twin weapons like onikiri and ubadachi?

>>166010815
>that top right one
shitty_WoW_trashmob.png

Does anyone else think warping is what ruined DaS1/2/3's world and level design? I mean, think about it, the first half of DaS1 has fantastic interconnection and shortcuts that make traveling between areas reasonable and interesting. After getting the Lord Vessel, the world design goes to shit because FROM no longer had to carefully consider how to lay out the world and the levels. The same is true for DaS2/3 as they both lack interesting level connection.

>>166010846
ppairedweapons do not get the bonuis of sttrong;.

soooo i just finished das 3 yesterday ...
why do people think it's superior to das 2 again ??

i like cant even remember any of the boosfights, they were all so lackluster and forgettable, excluding Nameless king which was annoying more than anything
>that fucking first phase retarded dragon and the fucking camera
and the second phase is basically perma dodging and hitting back 1-2 times or you get nuked by insta kill combos.
Soul of cinder was nice, but like everything else in the game that feels "nice" it's another form of fanservicing das 1, not exactly something original.
Also i cant remember any good soundtrack, even the end credits music was shit.

>>166011336
>>>/v/

>>166011336
It's far better mechanically and does have better boss fights.

>>166011336
solid bait, 6/10

>>166011336
>why do people think it's superior to das 2 again ??
The controls. And graphics.

>>166011286
BB had great world design despite having warping so...

>After getting the Lord Vessel, the world design goes to shit because FROM no longer had to carefully consider how to lay out the world and the levels

I think that they were pipes because From wanted players to feel like they had reached the end of that "dungeon" as it is. And New Londo Ruins is still part of the "interconnectivity" in world design and technically so is Lost Izalith considering how Lost Izalith links back to Quelaag's domain.

I think DaS3's world design was decent, but it's evident that they had to rush it and the way the levels absolutely work around only 1 bonfire, I think that they designed the levels to work like BB levels (1 lamp at the start then 1 for defeated boss rest is physical shortcuts) and then Bamco playtesters complained that it's too hard for microcuck casuls.

>>166011286
No I hate metroidvania style levels later on because as the game grows outward from the center, the interconnectiveness always lowers. Ds1 did it right allowing fast travel later on.

>>166010817
Not really. For some objects people test it and figure out percentage drop rate, though.

>>166011286
>Does anyone else think warping is what ruined DaS1/2/3's world and level design
No. Going back and forth between the first half of DS1 is an immense slog and overall it has a lot of retarded bonfire placement, as much as DS3 or maybe even more.

>>166011612
okay i'll give you that one, the gameplay was fun.
>>166011552
mate im not, really i want to know what you guys find so kewl in das3.

bb and ds 1 were original and memorable (lore, gameplay, soundtrack) das 3 and 2 are on the same level of meh to me.

What's rings should I use on a STR build? I've got favour, life and hornet but I'm not sure what to use for the 4th slot. Thinking maybe knights to bump me from 60 to 66 STR and get a little more damage.

>>166011628
>levels absolutely work around only 1 bonfire
At least half of DS3 really needs multiple bonfires per level given a low estus count you have and overall power of enemies. It needs multiple bonfires way more than DS1 where you had 10 stronger flasks since the very beginning.

Enemies that flail their weapon around like a retard piss me off. It's not that I have trouble dealing with it, it's just the act of them doing it. And FromSoft seems to have given it to a lot of enemies in DaS3.

>>166011931
>dark souls is about a world going completely hollow and mad
>how dare enemies flail their weapons madly like they actually lost their mind

Finished Dark Souls 3. Feels pretty melancholy tb h, really enjoyed the whole series overall even if it's not perfect. Really like Soul of Cinder as a final boss. His armour being a kind of distorted version of the Elite Knight set was a nice touch since it kind of made you feel like you were fighting the Chosen Undead. His first stage where he changed between all the different weapons was really cool and made it really feel like you were fighting an amalgamation of many Lords of Cinder, and also worked on kind of a meta level by sort of representing the players themselves.

The second stage was also cool as fuck when he started using Gwyn's moves and the new version of Gwyn's theme was really great.

All that said, he wasn't very hard and I would've liked it if his moves were a bit faster to make him more dangerous. But he was a really well-presented boss and a good one to end the series on.

One of the best levels in Souls games is No-man's Wharf from DaS2. Only one bonfire.

Who do people hate das 2 so much?

I really enjoyed my playthrough

>>166012170
Because of that one video that told people to.

>>166012217
OH, that explains it. Thanks.

>tfw spent $80 on a new PS3 instead of saving it to get a PS4
a-atleast i can keep twinking in 2-1

>>166011336
>soooo

uuuhhhhh stopped reading there

>>166012170
i don't hate ds2 even though i consider it a weak game
what i hate is ds2 community

>>166012291
The ps3 has lots of great games. The ps4 only has one.

>>166012462
>""community""
have you considered killing yourself?

>>166011336
soooo i just finished das 2 yesterday ...
why do people think it's superior to das again ??
i like cant even remember any of the boosfights, they were all so lackluster and forgettable, excluding Sinh which was annoying more than anything
>that fucking retarded dragon flying around and the fucking camera
>and then it boils down to basically perma dodging and hitting back 1-2 times or you get your weapon broken instantly
Old Dragonslayer was nice, but like everything else in the game that feels "nice" it's another form of fanservicing das 1 and King's field, not exactly something original.
Also i cant remember any good soundtrack, even the end credits music was shit.

>>166012170
Horrible controls, it feels really out of place, the graphics make it look like some bootleg russian tribute game, Soul Memory, etc.

To be fair, the game had a lot of nice features being placed, like 4 slots for rings, dual wielding and a lot of cool weapons.

Can't stand play it alone, tho.

>>166012170
>lots of bosses but most of them are easy and lame
>controller deadzone and only being able to move in certain directions makes moving your character awkward
>basically forced to level up ADP because otherwise you have hardly any iframes
>soul memory
>lore and setting is very disconnected from the first game
>level design and aesthetic is kind of boring
>level transitions are really badly done making every area feel disconnected from the rest of the world
>having to get the four Old Ones souls to open Shrine of Winter because the road was blocked by waist-high rubble makes one of the main goals of the game feel really stupid
>lots of bonfires make the game easy
>game relies on mobs of enemies to make levels difficult rather than unique, well-designed enemies or well-designed levels

Those were most of my issues with the game. I don't think it's terrible, I largely enjoyed my time with it, there are some things it did right and DS1 and DS3 didn't do. However I definitely consider it the weakest entry. A lot of these issues weren't in the DS2 DLCs though, which were all very good (especially Crown of the Old Iron King and Crown of the Ivory King).

>>166012479
>BB
>NiOh
>GB3
>New EXVS game
>the two Sony exclusives FROM have to make

>>166012170
I just disliked it openly dedicated most of its patching and balance concerning duels and all but ignored coop/invasions/pve

>>166012680
if anything, they made invasions even worse by increasing phantom limit in SOTFS and introducing a nearly unkillable npc phantoms

>>166012398
matey, i know you read it all and ended up getting flustered.
>>166012560
>le salty neckbeard
are you trying to imply that i defend das 2 ?
it was a trashbag just like das 3 is
>even the end credits music was shit
yea right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYQrxnXD9zo

>>166012479
PS3 has DeS, MGS HD collection and RDR which just about does it for games I'm personally interested in. But you might have different taste in games I guess.

I'd probably buy PS3 at this point just to play DeS but I think they'll remake it for PS4 and DeS was the jankiest game of the franchise anyway so I don't feel like wasting my money on it.

>>166012670
>the two Sony exclusives FROM have to make
Source.

>>166012170
>I really enjoyed my playthrough
I did too, anon.

But here's my take on why I don't enjoy DS2 as much as the others maybe barring DeS because while DeS has good levels and great atmosphere it's a janky piece of poo in all regards when it comes to gameplay.

>shit level design
>shit checkpointing
>shit lighting that makes levels look incredibly dull
>shit online due to no full eye orbs an soul memery
>despawning mobs and focus on farming
>shit bosses (that are still better than their DeS equivalents except maybe the gargoyles)
>adaptability
>cool mechanics that went totally underutilized
>shit covenants based on cool ideas that were totally wasted

>>166012670
I agree with the first two, but what are the other ones (GB3 adn EXVS) ?

I wanted to make a faith pvp build, but think the one i've come up with will suck
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/136916 how can i improve it?

>>166013159
>faith pvp build
i don't even need to open that link to tell you why it sucks, anon

>>166013187
B-but i want to hurl big spears of lightning at people

>>166013232
you can hurl them alright, but they won't hit anything

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>>166011838
>really i want to know what you guys find so kewl in das3.
Bosses on general are faster, more aggressive, have more varied movesets. Each has 2 stages, and the soundtrack changes as well.
A considerable amount of regular mooks are the same: more speed, more moves, more aggression. Stuff like Pontiff Beasts, curse doggos or outrider knights would've qualified as full fledged bosses back in the days of old gen souls (des, das, das2).
And that's the meat of the game right here: regular mobs and boss fights. Both I think are strictly superior to DaS1.
I also think that the music is better, at least because it's tied to the whole double stage mechanic. Some of the transitions, like pontiff's, are majestic as fuck. DeS music is good, but is rather slow and utilizes a lot of trumpets, and honestly doesn't really always fit. DaS1 has too much stressful "OOOOHOOH AHAH" IMO. BB music is still probably the best, at least on the merit of being an actual orchestra.
In terms of aesthetics, it's still pretty varied. I dunno where the "LOL GREY AND PISS FILTER" meme comes from. You have crimson-toned lake, ghostly blue irithyll, green irithyll dungeon, white ariandel and so on.

>>166013273
but that's what trading hits with them is for

>>166012819
>Source.
There was some "Sony insider" a while ago who mentioned on neofag that From made a 3 PS4 games deal with Sony (BB and two more).

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>there's roughly 5 enemies between two demon ruins bonfire and zero between daughter of chaos bonfire and first demon ruins bonfire
>another one right after the firesage even though stairs and elevator lead right back to the first demon
>ANOTHER ONE right after centipede demon
>according to /dsg/ this game has good bonfire placement

>>166013159
That's about it for that SL, weird one to stop at. Get Yorshka's chime for the buff. Talisman poise health doesn't depend on your poise.
Storm is not very good so you could just move 6 att points into vig.

>>166013159
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/136916
>Sl95
Weird sl to stop, any reason?
Looks good so far with the SL you've chosen, would've liked to see more Vig/Fth

>>166013380
Lost Izalith gets a pass from most people since its the rushed PoS area

>>166013380
Way better than DS3, my dude. Fuck All bosses turn into bonfires and shit. There's literally a bonfire 20 feet away from another between Armour and Grand Archives.

>>166013420
>>166013442
it was just the basic stats, i was going to add remove points as nessecary, and I picked storm because it apparantly combos into lightning stake/spear
what SL should i take it up to, 120?

>>166012819
>I'd probably buy PS3 at this point just to play DeS but I think they'll remake it for PS4

Don't get your hopes up, Sony may own the IP but the distribution rights are split 3 ways. I wouldn't be surprised at a new Shadow Tower though, especially since guns worked well in Bloodborne and FROM could fall back on the standard "isolated kingdom where someone fucked up and now evil is spreading" story that FROM uses for pretty much all of their games.

>>166013380
lost izalith in general is garbage, as well as most areas after anor londo, which most of /dsg/ readily admits

>>166013380
It's OK when Dark Souls 1 does it.

>>166013513
>Way better than DS3
No, it's not. Especially given that DS3 gives you less healing options all the way till lategame.

>>166013679
sup, plebbit

>>166013513
>All bosses turn into bonfires
What exaclty was the deal with this ? Is this some leftover game mechanic that got scrapped ? I remember pre-release stuff about making your own bonfires and sacrificing certain bonfires to do shit.

>>166013848
It's a DeS thing. FromSoft seems hellbent on merging all Souls mechanics into one game which obviously doesn't work well.

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><30% weight
>bloodring
>roll around like a madman
>smash in blues confused faces with a +10 heavy pickaxe
>hosts getting annoyed and summoning phantoms, popping seeds, black crystalling me out, or getting themselves killed trying to catch me with their washing poles/spears while the Aldrichbros gangbang them

LOCK ME UP

I have the fapping ring+2 on atm, should I switch it with Havel+2 so I can get some better gear on? I'm currently on fucking negative damage absorption otherwise.

>>166013505
Okay, lets us talk about early and midgame, then. There's a single Drake between Burg bonfire and altar of sunlight, and even altar of sunlight only allows to skip 2 hollows and 2 rats.

Then we have an abomination that is a bonfire placement in Darkroot Garden. A single bonfire would be more than enough for this entire area, but it has fucking 3 of them, and there's 5 piss easy treants between parish and one of them and a single black knight between parish and another of them. Depths shouldn't have a bonfire at all, there's already a shortcut that allows to skip all butchers and mad hollows if you're coming from up above.

Anor Londo is equally retarded with Gwyn's tomb bonfire that doesn't provide a shortcut for anything as it's simply faster to get down from Anor Londo bonfire than call the lift, run to its upper level then switch the lift yet again.

I won't even bother describing late-game bonfire placement, it's all over the place as well as there's like a single jump between two Catacombs bonfires.

The only areas in the entire DS1 that have a balanced bonfire placement are Blighttown, Sen's and New Londo.

>>166013679
You don't need them that badly. Making it to tower on the wall using 1 estus is about as hard as doing the same to burg's bonfire. On bigger levels, DaS 3 has plenty of shortcuts to allow you to explore with no extra bonfires needed.

Take the cruxifixon woods bonfire. There's only a few hollows, those poison things and one dog between it and the nearest bonfire and yet they think a bonfire there has any reason to exist. Or the lake and ruins separation only because of the worm. Or the DLC having one on both sides of the bridge. Or the lothric castle not being enough with all the shortcuts and the dragon barracks existing.

>>166013937
Did you know not everything is a reference you mongoloid faced baboon?

>get summoned as Darkmoon
>immediately get black crystalled out by the host
Fuck you

>>166014008
>kek'd before opening the picture because recognising scene
>open pic and kek harder

>>166014119
>if it's bonfire placement doesn't make it le so hardcore lelele xD it's not balance

>>166014127
>You don't need them that badly
You don't need, maybe. Average player does.

>>166014008
>not replacing last two guys with Miyazaki and Tanimura

>>166014135
>reference
It's a fucking mechanic straight from Demon's Souls.

>>166014303
>It's a fucking mechanic straight from Demon's Souls

Dark Souls and Bloodborne do it too you monkeyfaced mongoloid

>>166014407
Did you even play Dark Souls?

>>166014407
Dark Souls only did it when there was a dead end, like Bed of Chaos.

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>>166014240
>It's okay when Dark Souls 1 does it!! R-reddit!!

The droning is ridiculous. Why can't you just admit that every game has its flaws, look past them, and enjoy them all like actual fans of the series?

Why do people actually grind for dmb?

50 faith and ~10 int chime costs 60 sl and has 209 spellbuff for DMB

30/30 int/fai crystal chime costs the same and has 202 spellbuff for CMW

The latter generally lets you also save on stats by using pyro to compensate for the slightly lower spellbuff. What's the point of going the faith route? Bigger regen miracle?

There used to be this guy here who posted webms of his low level sorcerer who'd just snipe people with soul stream plus obscuring ring. I forgot the build he posted but would +6 weapon and SL55 give me decent invasions for Catacombs and Irithyll?

>>166014474
Did you? Every LordSoul boss has a bonfire spawn after you kill them, and so does O&S and Gwyn.

>>166014518
>Why can't you just admit that every game has its flaws
i don't think anyone can possibly deny this about any game

>>166014552
The one after Gwyn ends the game.

>>166014552
>O&S
>bonfire spawn

It was already there. BB has most bosses drop lanterns but DeS and 3 are the only games where the boss drops a warp point every time, save for the final

>>166013937
>>166013848
>>166014135
>>166014303

Yeah, it's a mechanic that started from DeS and was most prevalent in that game, but it was continued in DS1 and 2 by giving you a bonfire for the "big" bosses that were defeated.

Bloodborne probably had the more succesful mechanic because there were fairly few archstones overall (I call them archstones because they work more like DeS archstones because they only teleport you into Hunter's Dream and they don't even automatically restock your consumables unless you die and even then some require trip back to the Hunter's dream iirc) and levels were based around 1 lamp most of the time.

That said, BB had some kinda pointless lamps like the Tomb of Oedon lamp was pointless because Cathedral Ward lamp exists without any combat between ToO and CW much like DragonSlayer Armor and Grand Archives bonfire, but others, like the Grand Cathedral bonfire can be useful if you want to go towards Hemwick or Yahar'gul .

I think the way DS3's the way it is due to Bamco meddling because most of the levels would work perfectly fine centered around 1 bonfire and rest done via physical shortcuts but it could also be due to rushed development.

>>166014671
>BB has most bosses drop lanterns
all of them

>>166014552
Yes, a Lord Soul. 4 bosses. NOT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. And, go figure, it was the shit bosses in rushed areas with dead ends this was done on.

>>166014693
Rom :^)

Bonfires EVERYWHERE is just one of the many ways FromSoft has used to make these games easier and thus more accessible.

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>>166014765

>>166014765
No, Rom drops a lantern too but it also spawns Yharnam on top of it

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I spent a little under 4 hours fighting Ludwig, and did not get nearly as mad in the two hours I've spent fighting the FUCKING MANEATERS

HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO KILL THESE SHITHEADS

DURR YOU GOT KNOCKED TO THE GROUND TIME FOR MY FRIEND TO COME OVER AND BEAT YOUR ASS BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN GET UP

OOPS I'M LOW HEALTH HOPE YOU DON'T MIND ME FLYING AWAY SILLY SLAYER ;)))))

>>166014119
Hellkite bonfire is pretty scary to get to and rewards players smart enough to get around the dragon. Darkroot and demon ruins bonfires are hidden behind walls, rewarding observant players. Depth bonfire is on main route through the area, while the shorcut is there for, again, players who actually search their surrondings, and even then you have to notice the longer ledge on the left you can slide off to skip half the area.
Lord's tomb bonfire is there for darkmoons and people who kill the firekeeper to provide a somewhat reasonable alternative. I don't find it bad or unnecessary at all, it's on a complete side route anyway.
I never found the 2nd catacomb bonfire. It's there to reward exploration, just like all the other bonfires you describe as redundant or some shit.

>>166014518
>says the guy who just wrote a three paragraph rant about bonfire placement

>>166015009
>it's hidden so it doesn't count
Then i won't count half of DS3 bonfires as well because you might not stumble upon them.

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>>166015047
I am not that guy, just someone who is incredulous at the blatant droning.

>>166015110
Yes it doesn't, you retard. The game rewards exploration, not something a guide-watching faggot like you would understand.

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>when someone says DaS has build variety

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>>166014265

>>166015110
DaS 3's bonfires are often very blatant and placed in the way towards the boss. The ones you can call hidden are cliff underside because of a drop, and the finger/faithful/darkmoon ones

>>166015327
>DaS 3's bonfires are often very blatant and placed in the way towards the boss
I can count the same amount of them as in DS1. Especially because i will be counting the shitfest of a bonfire placement that is Izalith.

friede is mean

>>166015280
Doing god's work anon, thank you

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>>166015427
Adjusted the cigar around Miyazaki's mouth a bit.

>>166015408
she only becomes mean in third stage and because you fucking barge in and murder a kind church father

>>166015280
Nice.

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>>166015238
>when someone says DaS pvp is good

>>166015490
Friede has her clawtism knights kill/cripple the population of the painting way before you show up.

She's a bitch.

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>>166015598
All for the sake of preserving the painted world, anon.
You don't want to pointlessly reset the things up, do you?

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T H I C C

PvP ratings:
Ds2 > Ds3 >>>>>>>>> Ds1 > DeS

>>166015749
>tfw people say DaS2 has terrible combat when DeS exists

>>166015408
Friede is bae desu

>>166015749
For duels, maybe.
DS2 had the absolute worst invasions, even worse than BB.

>>166015749
>the duel focused shitfest that was das2
>with no infinite invasion item, only cracked orbs
>soul memery
>giant seeds
>invaders can't heal aside from miracles
>invaders can't interact with the environment
>better than DeS or DaS
kill yourself

>>166015805
kill yourself as well

>>166015639
>All for the sake of preserving the painted world

Which is now a rotting place filled with corpses and cripples living in constant fear of corvian knights and Artoriasfags.

>>166015238
What were all the das 1 builds most people had?

>40/40
>26/40
>16/45
>dex and dmb
>str with poise
>dark bead spam

Did I miss anything? Seems like the only upside is the abscence of refined infusion

>>166016135
>26
27 I mean

>>166016135
>abscence of refined infusion
which doesn't mean shit because most of the good weapons benefited from going to 27/40 either way

>tfw realize how funny Dark Souls actually is
>giant jew nosed snakes
>sexy birds
>dragon asses that try to sit on you
>two thicc muscular female butchers
>a thicc girl that invades to eat you and then helps you
>merchant that moves to a spot that could kill you if you miss the jump
>merchant that talks to his bucket
>undead lady merchant that has a thing for you
>talking fat cat that speaks weird
>giant fat cats that roll after you
>hydras that slam their heads into the ground
>a dragon that ain't got no legs
>a god that was raised as a goddess
>big head hollows that spit fire at you
>skeletons that ride on wheels
>a knight that's most likely insane and implies he is a faggot
>Oswald of KEHEHEHEHEHE

Probably a lot more that I am forgetting.

>>166016135
>tfw did 27/40 with 40 faith
>buffed washing pole with flip ring
Yes it was cancer but the low vit was quite thrilling

>>166016558
>wheel skeletons
>funny
nigga i still got nightmares

>>166015749
>tfw you can only get in invasions in DeS by twinking in 2-1
even at near starting levels I still don't get anything anywhere else.

PRAISE THE SUN!

>>166017701
no

>>166016558
Oh, and
>bubble butt demons
>weird suction cup things in lost izalith
>mushroom kids
>mushroom powerhouses

>>166017701
PLEASE
HELP ME

EUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH

HRYYYYAAARRRGHHHH
HRUUGGGHHH
HRYAAA HRUUUGH HRYAAAA HRUUUGHHH
HRYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *explosion*

>>166017974
>>166016558

Serious question : is Dark Souls your first japanese game?

>DeS
>uchigatana weighs as much as my fucking great club
>requires 18 strength to wield

what the fuck.

Also is the great club not upgradeable or can the blacksmith at the Nexus just not do it.

>>166018070
No, but it is the only funny Souls game. DeS had some funny things as well not as much. 2 and 3 take themselves too seriously.

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>>166017947
>>>>>>>>>/out/

>>166014693
Micolash and Gherman and Moon Presence don't have a lanter spawn after you kill them

>>166012170
memes

>>166017979
I heard them perfectly

>>166014119
You can't warp to all of the bonfires in dks1.

>>166018132

You can't upgrade wooden weapons in DeS. Just use it to make the Meat Cleaver.

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>>166015238
>DaS Great Club builds are based around backstabs
>You never swing your weapon normally

wew

>>166018473
Ah okay.

Where the fuck do I get more sharpstone? It seems like the most basic upgrade material but I'm swimming in shit like mercury and moonstone that I can't use

>>166012170
Dead zone, inputs in general being made more finicky as though it were difficulty. You should be giving players more options to weigh and consider alongside more consequence if you want the game to be harder. The only upside was the fixed jump controls, the point being that ds1s shitty jump setup wasn't what made it "challenging"; people should have recognized that fucking with everything else was a bad idea.

Generic enemies just being spawned all over the place as though it were difficulty. Generic bosses as well.

Soul memory

Agility

Shit weapon meta, which ds2 fags usually defend by saying "but it had greeeat build variety! I could level up for any buff I wanted on the same tight handfull of top tier weapons! You can make loads of different colored havelstoc builds! That's what variety is, qualityfag!"

Not to mention the bullshit "when you finish your journey you won't even know why lol" storytelling the writers had to throw out due or their inability to make a solid plot with player motivation while simultaneously keeping the player character as a blank the way ds1 could

someone post the screencap that line of code that resembles

"CapitalCityKnight0002.PairedUltraGreatsword"

or whatever else that one anon found. apparently there's even more?

>>166018963
You'll find plenty of it in Stonefang

>>166019039
>Generic enemies just being spawned all over the place as though it were difficulty.
This is true for every single souls game.
>Shit weapon meta
Oh look, it's someone that's never dueled before.

friendly reminder that the main game is already the ending to das3 and das as a whole and that the dlc will not be an "ending" to the souls games.

killing soul of gwynder and linking the fire or siding with yuria or stomping on the fire keeper already do this

>>166019353
Oh look, it a "but my weapon is in my own personal """viiiable""" tier" dual fugs fag

The enemies in 3 were far better and more interactive. The instant I fought the first lothric knight I knew ds3 had better mobs.

>>166019519
>fugs
Smelter I mean

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>>166019634
Reminder Bloodborne is a sequel to Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 3 is the prequel

>>166019792
lucifer_does_das_lore.jpg

>>166019519
>que ds2 poster who says ds3 mobs have infinite stamina, in spite of spending most his free time posting drakekeeper memes

>>166019792
time is convoluted

>>166019792
>Aldrich
>Eldritch

>The gods are great ones even dark souls has its own god-like race aka Gwyn and co.

This is so stupid

>>166019892
kek

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>>166019927
Can we agree that "time is convoluted" is the worst single line in the entire series?

It's a cop-out for lazy writing and inconsistencies and the fan base loves to ride one it harder that they'd like to ride Solaire's masive sun.

>>166020040
even if*

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>>166019792
>they're must be a connection to everything

fuck off

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>>166020040
In the Japanese version, Aldricth is literally called "Eldritch"

>>166020169
Well, the english voice acting is the original voice acting.

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>>166020212
The Japanese version is the closest one to Miyazski's original intent. Even if English was made first Miyaxaki's english is not perfect

>>166020047
>ds1 has one single line used to cop out of explaining pvp mechanics, while the game as a whole still has a point

>whereas ds2's whole plot is basically forgotten by the cast and little to no message is developed throughout the game compared to what you're told at the start

>and ds3 just uses the aforementioned line from 1 to mege areas together and shit for unjustified nostalgia faggotry

the only problem was that solaire's line was a far less well disguised cop out than any other, to the point of being kinda atmosphere breaking. As far as magnitude goes, it was only used to cop out of things the player likely wouldn't have worried about anyway.

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>realize after upgrading my flamberge to +2 that the great club still blows it out of the water 2 handing because of the A strength scaling

why am I so dumb I just wanna do more than 100 damage a swing to maneaters

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>>166020169

>>166020398

Aldrich is an actual name that doesn't have anything to do with eldritch. Since the voice acting says Aldrich that might have been the original intent and the jap sub just didn't care.

The connection makes no sense anyway. I have no idea why anybody would want an connection. It's not cool or deep at all.

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Thinking about playing through Ds2 because I hate myself. Anyone got some ideas on interesting builds?

>>166020752
>flame demon
that was probably an unfinished page for those guys with the machetes

>leggings of cia
jesus

>>166020850
faith

Are there any weapons similar to the Das 1 silver knight spear in Das 3?

>>166020850
FUGS and/or big weapons

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>>166020752
Don't forget this

>>166020939
you mean long as fuck and ridiculously overpowered spear?
plow and gargoyle spear

>reposting kekstralife pics every fucking thread
for what purpose

Somehow farming grass manages to be 10x more annoying than farming blood vials in BB

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>>166021009
I generally don't post it unless someone mentions kekstralife because it's a bad site full of misinformation and should be shamed.

Wikia is shit too, but for other reasons like popup ads.

>>166021001
added

>>166021131
5 bones worth of golden wing knights is like 200 grass

holy shit you're a lazy scumbag

this is all besides the fact that grass in das3 is shit anyway. if you need stamina use a chloranthy ring. 5 sta/sec isn't anything to worry about

>>166020850
Since you're just gonna play it once, figure out which weapons are the least trash in 2 compared to other games so that you can at least get something out of it. Res weapon dark infused crypt blacksword might be worth a go since UGS are pretty bad in 3 and are just a meme in 1. Not saying they're great in 2 though, but clearly the least bad there compared to anywhere else.

The landmine pyromancy and double shields give you stuff that wouldn't be better done in other games by virtue of not being there. Or you could build your own stunlock with powerstance.

>>166021003
Yes anon

Those things are fun

>>166021131

Dupe souls and just buy a hundred good ones from a vendor my man.

>>166020850

I really liked the Forossan build.
Start with some STR, try weapons and shit.
When you find Vengarl, you will soon also find his weapon (with his other things) and trust me, dual Red Rust Swords is da bomb.

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What's a good level for lategame invasions? 89? I heard it's good cause it won't match you with 120s.

>>166021230
I meant demon's souls grass that's why I made the blood vial comparison

>>166021243
oh I should've guessed you can dupe in this game. Away I go

>>166021230
>tfw realized he was probably talking about moon grass in des

i-ignore me

>>166021236
Zweihander is the literal best pve weapon in das2
stunlocks for days and enough range to hit tons of enemies game loves to throw at you

>>166021334
>>166021327
like pottery

>>166021220
How about Wikidot?

>>166021384
>best pve
woo

Wonder how much of a disappointment the next DLC will be.

>>166021413
wikidot is love
wish das3 layout wasn't garbage

>>166021413
Wikidot for DS1 / DeS is the best, the DS3 wikidot is almost fextra-tier bad and incomplete but not as lulzy.

>>166021469
>guy asks about playing through the game
>you respond with pvp garbage
on a scale of 1 to 10, how autistic are you?

>>166021592
He actually mocking someone thinking zwei is the best PvE weapon

>>166021592
0
you can still be invaded in pve
you're only directly comparing weapons in a pvp scenario, in pve it isn't a direct weapon vs weapon comparison and you're only missing out on potential ease against pre defined enemies

>>166021384
It damage is too low and requires flynn's ring to utilize. You also get it pretty late in the game (Iron Keep). For PvE it's better to just dump stats into weight cap and use the Greatsword from

>>166020850
Grand Lance is hands-down the best PvE weapon, and very fun. It's also fairly unique to DS2's gameplay style.

Other things you can get fairly early:
Old Knight Halberd is pretty interesting too.
Anything powerstance
Twinblades
Pure sorcery (you can farm soul spears in huntsman's copse and staff of wisdom is easy to get after doors of pharros).

>>166020850
>Get magic mace
>Get enchanted falchion
>Hybrid sorcerer with powerstance option

>>166020850
Boss weapons.

>>166021384
Better PvE weapons you can get before zweihander:
>Pursuer UGS
>Lost Sinner's Sword
>Greatsword
>Grand Lance
>Santier's spear
>Black Knight Halberd / Old Knight Halberd
>Old Knight Pike
>Warped Sword (when powerstanced)
>Dragon Tooth
>Large Club
>Chariot Lance
>Pate's Spear
>Twinblade
>Dragonrider Twinblade

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>>166021243
>mfw did this to beat maneaters

I don't feel even a little bit bad about it, fuck that fight.

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Is the Dragonslayer's Cresent Axe good in DS2? Im thinking about upgrading either that or the Santier's Spear.

>>166023020
santier's spear does 2 damage

dsca is good lightning-infused but mediocre otherwise

>>166023113
>>166023020
Santier's spear will be far more powerful in both PvP and PvE, especially infused and buffed.

Dragonslayer Crescent Axe can be powerstanced though, and is probably more fun because it's less OP.

>can't skip the old monk cutscene

you have to be fucking kidding

>>166023364
nigger raw and mundane were nerfed like 8 million years ago. it's shit unless you're like SL700

>>166023364
Is lightning infused Santier's viable then? Im running a faith character.

>>166023020
Santiers spear trivialised NG and NG+ for me, although being SL250 probably gave me a huge advantage too.

>>166023624
Use a raw gem and then use sunlight blade.

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>shitters actually think that their noble "anti-twinking" will save them from getting righteously raped with raw DSA
it sure a boring process if they are lagging tho

>>166023947
wow what a retard. he's literally using T H E counter for DSA and he still manages to lose.

>>166023947
>cop
>invading

Traitor. You're a disgrace for the institution.

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>>166023503
>Maneaters
>Literally some of the most difficult infuriating shit I've fought
>is this the archdemon I need to get past the fog?
>nope just regular demon, 15k souls

>Old Monk immediately after
>beat him my 2nd try by stunlocking him to death
>SOUL OF AN ARCHDEMON
>30k souls

that's some difficulty to reward ratio

>>166024225
>tfw strong urge to be a SL20 cop now

thanks asshole

>>166024281
Old Monk is meant to be a fight against a human player.
Also, all of the Archdemon fights are really easy desu.

>>166023757
>>166023624
dont listen to this idiot, buffs in ds2 are based off of the weapons damage in that element not your spell buff
which means if you dont infuse santiers it only does the base damage of the buff which is like 50

>>166022369
>>166021794
This is a late answer, but Pursuer's, lss and gs all have the awful vertical strikes compared to zwei's 270 degrees coverage. It's definitely not bad, and iron keep isn't all that late either.

>>166024419
>fight against a human player

oh like mirror knight?

Guess that's what I get for playing ded game

>>166024293
You're welcome, recruit.

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>>166024225
hey, i do my share of r1 mashing for bluefaggots as well

>>166023596
>>166023624
>>166023663
you motherfuckers are so willing to be "correct" that you straight up ignore in-game stats

+10 magic santier's spear 2H on 14/22/-/40 str/dex/int with RoB and sunlight blade

>225 physical (142 damage after mid-late game defenses)
>357 elemental (250 damage after mid-late game defenses)
>1.2 counter
>~1.75x moveset modifier (2H R2 twinblade moveset)

Total damage: ~686 2HR2 (823 counter)

40/12/-/40 stats on +5 dragonslayer crescent axe with RoB and sunlight blade:

>291 physical (159 damage after mid-late game defenses)
>240 elemental (168 damage after mid-late game defenses)
>1.3 counter
>~1.4x moveset modifier (2H R2 axe moveset)

Total damage: ~457 2HR2 (595 counter) and higher stats needed to reach peak damage

The main reason not to use santier's spear is that it can be slow and leave you open to being damaged while attacking, but it has undoubtably more power than the DSCA.

>>166024634
Post stats and we'll forgive you

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>>166024880

>>166023947
Why do people use drakeblood ever?

>>166008905
Instead of another shit tier boss like the wolf I hope they're just lazy and copy paste a cleaned up Darklurker.

And then maybe he'll give us Sullys set

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Should I? It's getting to the point there's enough stuff to tempt me. BB (mainly), Nioh, some other stuff. Any PS4 specific issues I should be aware of when buying pre-owned? Stuff someone might just "happen" to not mention?

>>166024920
Why not upgrade for the DLC shield?

>>166024494
I love the zweihander for PvP. But it's not the best for PvE, at all.

In PvE the stronger UGS vertical strikes are better (they also have sweeping 2HR2s) and the damage output is insane. There is rarely a situation where you need the sweeping attacks of the zweihander more since most bosses don't really move a whole lot.

Iron keep isn't far, but all of those other weapons can be obtained quicker.

I definitely think the Zwei has its place, but that's for its awesome moveset in PvP.

>>166024983
Extremely high damage when buffed with very low stat investment, just like DSA.

At +10 uninfused with 247 sAR lightning blade I pull almost 800 AR using a clutch ring.

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>>166025082
i did
but my usual attire is mostly for fashion
this one is when i just don't care

>>166024920
Holy crap, all those invasions were SL20? You're dealing way too much damage.

>>166025183
>clutch ring
>low stat investment when you need 60 fth

>>166021497
DaS3 layout of wikidot lacks literally 1 line of code to resize images and everything would be fine.

>>166025292
At 20 +2 raw it can pull around 400 AR using lightning bundles, and just under 390 AR using lightning resins

Should I farm souls and level up to level 100+ before going NG+?

>>166025404
which fucking game

>>166025102
How do you even use in pvp? My limited experience with it was full of nerds backstepping through every attack and reactive dexfags i couldn't even catch.

>>166016135
Whoa dude you can't just say ds3 has more variety than ds1. Whoa dude you just can't!

>>166025441
ds3 duh

>>166025441
dark souls 3

i've noticed a trend where people generally refer to the game their playing if it isn't dark souls 3.

just assume PC, DaS3 always

>>166025036
These are the PS4 exclusives worth buying, if they look good to you:

Bloodborne, Infamous, Last Guardian, Last of Us Remastered and Part 2, Until Dawn, Uncharted, Death Stranding, Let it Die, Detroit: Become Human, Ace Combat 7, Nioh, Yakuza 6

If you don't have an Xbone, then you get access whole bunch of console exclusives that aren't on PC too.

>>166025036
Nioh's about to have its last demo starting tomorrow, you might want to wait until after that to see if people still have a good opinion of it. You might also want to pay for 1-day or Saturday shipping and get in on the demo so you can see for yourself.

For what it's worth I've been really happy with Bloodborne but it's just about all I use My PS4 for. I've been playing UC4 but only because it came with the system.

>>166025520
5 games in the franchise and you expect people to only talk about the newest one?
ng+ is a joke with zero increase of difficulty

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What's a good offhand for the great club? Obviously a 100 physblock shield is good to just outpatience passive reactives when absolutely needed, but that can be hardswapped to. For actually dealing with weaknesses in the weapon I'm thinking someone fast and thrusting, possibly.

>>166025669
Stone Parma or Eastern Iron Shield

>>166025669
If only there was a class of quick swords whose main attack method was thrusting

>>166025638
Oh fuck really? That kinda sucks. I was planning of doing it 100% like ds1 but the darkmoon blade achievement kind of makes it meaningless

>>166025607
>>166025625
>whole bunch of exclusives
that's what's making me consider it. I haven't had a console in a long time but if I'm going to get one for the exclusives the PS4 seems like the solid choice.

>>166025625
I'm in no rush so I'll probably wait to see how the Nioh demo plays out, then. I have prime so shipping times are rarely an issue.

>>166025452
Just take advantage of the fact that literally every move is pvp viable and you have a range advantage over every other weapon in the game.

1HR1: Two-hit greatsword combo, great for shield breaking and roll baiting
1HR2: Can be angled 270 degrees. Use to hit backstab fishers but never use the 2nd R2
2HR1: Stronger version of the 1HR1, but only one hit combo, good for shield breaking or trading.
2HR2: Excellent thrust, which can be angled ~180 degrees. If the thrust misses, the "Home Run" swipe can be angled BEHIND you. I've caught many players with that trying to backstab me after the thrust.

Running: Excellent dead angling, can be angled 270 degrees. Great for clipping other player's rolls with the ground sweep.
1H Rolling: vertical chop that can angled behind you. Excellent for catching players coming out of their roll attacks.

And of course- Don't play with lock on.

Spears, twinblades, and rapiers are your worst enemy.

>>166025817
NG+ is only worth it because you'll be able to reach NG++ for the rings.

I'm playing ds1 and ds3 at the same time. First souls experience. Is it wrong if I think 3 is more fun?

>>166025817
I suggest you just speed run to NG++ then. You get all the shit in one sweep and you're less overleveled.

>>166025985
I just wanna do fun invasions in midgame areas ;___;

Fingers crossed that DLC2 gives us fun reasons to do ng+ cycles

>>166026064
Just do this >>166026061

>>166026124
fingers crossed that DLC2 gives us reasons NOT to do ng+ cycles renewable titanite slabs

>>166026124
it won't and you know it

Does anyone know what the purpose of a shield like the Follower's Shield is?

It has awful stability, looks mediocre, and doesn't have very good absorption.

The only thing I can think of is that it has the lowest weight to dark absorption ratio, but that doesn't really help much considering it's still not very good.

Who's ready for the evangelist book weapon in the next DLC?

Why is SL 120 the meta?

Having 40s in all of your stats isn't fun, it's boring.

There's no uniqueness. Every character is 40 vit/end/str/dex.

Why isn't SL60-70 considered the meta level?

>Enough levels to wield any weapon/spell/miracle in the game, sacrificing other stats
>Enough levels to still be a glass cannon, tank, etc.
>Just enough levels that you won't have dumpstats

I guess the extra levels let your dump points so you can fashion souls in heavy sets and still midroll.

>try drakeblood sword after thinking its trash in both ds2 and ds3
>over 800 fucking ar with sunlight blade only

its like swinging around a fucking powerline

>>166026881
>Having 40s in all of your stats
That would be more than 120.

>>166026051
No. 1 has a lot of quirky problems and is a generally inferior designed and programmed game. However, a lot of those quirks make it endearing and unique because of it. DS3, by comparison, is really well developed but can just be sort of boring.

Think if DS1 as an high-tier indie game, an DS3 as a mid/low tier AAA game.

>>166026061
ok then what am I gonna do with these 300k souls i got from killing nameless king 500 times

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>>166027070
>drakeblood greatsword
>trash in ds2

>>166027189
Actually, think of DS3 as a mid/low tier horribly optimized AAA game that has piss poor performance for it's rather average graphics
t. assblasted poorfag

>>166027242
300k is not even a high number. Buy consumables or upgrade materials.

>have entirely too much trouble with Lautrec's ganksquad
>beat O&S on first try
how

>>166027070
Drakeblood in DS2 regularly out-damages UGS at half the stat investment, because it gets full bonus from 4 different AR rings and has that stupidly high counter modifier. It's the best weapon in the game if you only have 1 stat to scale with.

>>166027350
Killing ornstein first doesn't count

>>166027316
Are you going to go with the sunbro who is going to blast you in the ass of the dorkwraith who is going to blast you in the ass?

>>166027495
>implying I didn't get my leo ring

>>166027539
How about both?

Is the Great Sword any good in DeS?

>>166026881
at launch there was a tendency to 80 because most people would finish the game at that lvl, but I guess people just want more.
Middle meta stays at 45-55 while for twinking it's usually 15-25

Am I retarded for constantly changing my rings Like every 5 minutes to fit the current situation?

>>166027189
Ds1 was maybe endearing for the time, when most people played it, but as someone who has just played it along with 3, I find the quality drops too significantly later on. After anor londo it feels like a slog to finish it.

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>>166027614
It's not good, it's just great.

>>166027614
It's viable but severely outclassed by the DBS. Go Quality or Crushing.

>>166026869
>rip off Berserk but make the Guts sword trash and dont do this
These devs hate video games and they hate fun

Was Loretta Greirat's mommy? Because it says the bone is old

>>166027885
Nana.

>>166008905

A final fight that isn't some godawful anime battle with an anorexic and feeble woman.

>>166027885
>not having a GILF fetish

>>166027690
Yeah, you're retarded.

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>>166027985
Don't bully Friede!!

>>166027875

>no Griffith armor
>no skull knight armor
>no options to rape a brown-skinned waifu
>no scene where your character is teleported to a demonic ceremony
>No centaurs/apostles, just rando invaders

I thought memehacki liked Berserk.

>>166026881
>>166026881
but i don't have 40 in vit/end/str/dex

Vituality
39 Vig
30 Vit
35 End
35 Str
35 Dex

Cleric
35 vig
30 att
8 vit
25 end
18 str
16 dex
60 fai
14 int

Sorc
39 vig
30 att
18 vit
20 end
16 str
12 dex
60 intelligence

quallowity
39 vig
11 att
27 end
40 str
40 dex
30 luck (40 with hollow weapons)

faiqual
35 vig
14 att
40 end
25 vit
29 str
25 dex
30 fai

tank
43 vig
40 end
50 vit
35 str
12 dex

Just woke up from last week

We have news for DLC2?

>>166029026
At least two youtubers/streamers will go play something DLC related next week (not sure if it will be part of the areas or another arena event with the weapons) so expect something either next week or in the following ones, when embargo ends.

>>166027885
Greirat is pretty old himself, though.

>>166029197

He only sounds like 50

>>166011612
> controls
The games have nearly identical controls if you're using a controller. The fuck are you talking about?

The only consistent counter to a valorheart is a good shield right? Then bait out the guardbreak WA for combo?

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>>166025972
>2HR1: Stronger version of the 1HR1, but only one hit combo
No it isn't. In hundreds of hours that i PvPed with zwei and other UGSes with same 2hr1 i've literally never seen anyone roll out of it after the first hit.
IKUGS has same 2hr1 and does not combo, but that's because it's magic counts as a separate hit.

>>166029467
Is valorheart that good?

>>166014671
wrong, if you set your spawn point to that bonfire before killing them and teleporting to it, it's not actually there

>>166020752
>Note: should Irina not be in her usual location it's because she wandered off and got lost
>cant confirm: she's blind

goodbye sides, we had a good run

What the fuck is this black phantom in Boletaria Palace? The one that comes with two other dudes

he literally broke every piece of equipment I was wearing, even shit that had just been fully repaired

>>166029707
He's using a Scraping Spear, the weapon you get from Phalanx's soul. Every hit does 10 durability damage to everything the target is using. You can break pretty much every katana in six hits.

Fun fact, those three are the inspiration for the Graverobbers in the Sunken King DLC.

>>166009369
I really like tough bosses, and I really like endurance bosses like Yhorm too. But what I don't like is when a boss has so many phases that it doesn't let you fucking learn the last one's moveset. Friede is trash anway, stupid fucking quickass dumb humanoi with a sword.

The boss was almost PERFECT right up until the third phase

>>166022224
right down the road?

>>166029516
I've used it extensively and I can't really find anything that objectively counters me when I use it.

Spears are predictable and can be semi-reliably parried or baited into thinking im going to parry. The new charge meta can give me some trouble if someone is using greatlance of all things. Go figure. It's considered an ultra weapon by the game, so if it hits my shield during block frames I get blockstunned out of my attack animation.

Ultras and greatswords just aren't fast enough to beat the regular straight sword R1s, so I just put the shield away, whip out the caestus and fakeparry so they're too afraid to use rolling attacks, then I can just whittle them down with an R1, then roll out before they hit me.

>>166029969
Right down the road.

>>166029859
Friede's boss fight was fantastic though

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Your character now has an animal companion like Artorias and Sif or Dragon Fag and Fag Dragon.

What beast is it? Can't be human/humanoid.

>>166029859
>Friede
>with a sword
back to /v/ retard

>>166030145
Boromir so he can drop me into the fight every time.

>>166029849
well that's pretty fucking annoying, apparently my flamberge and club break in the same amount of hits

>>166026881
Because DaS 3's stats are worse than in 2. In 2, you have more stat taxes(stats you want to get only to not get fucked by elemental damage, ADP) which just made the overall meta be much higher and allowed builds that needed less levels to afford various options.

3's issue is that those taxes remain but not for every build. Vitgouging is mandatory in early levels but impossible at high ones since vitgouged stats offer huge returns at low SLs but hardly increase your HP past the softcap and raw weapons are very strong early but very weak by themselves. So every ideal build will stop at one of the softcaps of 27/36/39/44 depending on the SL.
Then we get to faith and intelligence capping at 60 for spells but 40 for weapons, on top of most spells being very bad by themselves.
Then we have stamina costs being greatly reduced, making a lot of weapons work with low end, but some spells and weapons have huge stamina costs AND investment needed, making them waste way more stats than a simplier build would need.
Then we have the end vit split, which is a good thing by itself, but with awfully calculated numbers, to the point GS can stack more poise than GH do and, even with their bigger poise HP, GS still trade with more things.
Then we have the rings, a variant of FaP is still around for some reason taking a ring slot. Every melee ring is optional, except for leo depending on your weapon, while casters need 3 rings and, because how cast speed work and pyros need 40/40 while sorcs/clerics need 60, it's actually impossible to get max cast speed and decent damage from stats alone and I think there are no spells that already come at max speed in 3.

All this adds up to the point where, at SL 80, 100, 120 or whatever else you want the meta to be, some builds will have a significant adavantage over others. Bad balance is from the way stats work and there's no meta where one or more archetypes don't get gimped

So we 120 because it's popular, but most SLs are active.

>>166030145
one of those rock lizards in arch dragon peak

>>166030237
>Because DaS 3's stats are worse than in 2
I will take working scaling system over 2's garbage any day and night.

>>166030145
A big rolling cat

>>166030237
this is why i wish we were all SL801 desu

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Quick question: If I keep my Soul Level at 80 and go into NG+ will I still be able to match-make with similar leveled players in NG?

>>166030237
>oftcaps of 27/36/39/44
wow, so 40 VIG is not a softcap?

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>>166030145
Always liked the idea of a pyromancer managing to tame one of these guys.