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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Political discussion unrelated to the games belongs on /pol/.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, January 16th:
1788 - The first English settlers arrived in Australia's Botany Bay to establish a penal colony. The group moved north eight days later and settled at Port Jackson.
1803 - Thomas Jefferson, in secret communication with Congress, sought authorization for the first official exploration by the U.S. government.
1871 - Wilhelm, King of Prussia from 1861, was proclaimed the first German Emperor.

>News
CK2 DD37 - Three Times Greater
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-dd-37-three-times-greater.994778/

EU4 - 1/10
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-10th-of-january-2017.993709/


>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V9
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Companymod
http://pastebin.com/QqaBfZuF

Old Thread >>165931512
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First for good posts and Codreanu

Watch for shitposts lads
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>>165983147
BASED
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FUCK R&l
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>>165983147
based af
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>>165983147
Based but unironically
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>>165983073
>January 16th
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Fucking r&i janny
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long boy
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what's the best way to get my Codreanu fix in a gs game lads?

>>165983513
K I N G F I S H
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Brazil is shit.
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>>165983572
This image is fake, the two actual Roman Empires were in Germany and Russia
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>>165983513
Every man a kang
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>>165983686
eh I can't really complain about my life desu
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>>165983847
Proof enough tbqh
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Thoughts on GroßFrankickums?
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>>165984000
This is the first version and it's pretty shit, I did another version without Crimea, proper borders in the Rhineland and so on. Shame I deleted all of my maps a while ago.
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>>165984000
probably my favorite thing to do in V2
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Africamod v0.2
Suggestions and Critique highly appreciated
Probably some bugs and balance issues in this version, if you find any, please post them
Many addition of this version is the OPM Zoutpansberg, allowing play as a Boer republic from the start of game
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So I found out you CAN get Jacobins, but it's prety ridiculous. 75% liberals and only like 600 jacobins....

>>165984000
What Game...?
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>>165983147
Based and white
R&I btfo
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>>165984224
You'd probably have better luck becoming a republic by making your pops very militant and pushing through political reforms
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>>165984224
Garibaldi will fuck your shit up.
Also, fitting captcha from last thread.
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>>165984392
>by making your pops very militant and pushing through political reforms
doesn't that only happen with dictatorship governments? wouldn't he just go constitutional monarchy?
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>>165983572
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>>165984574
I think if you get almost ALL political reforms you can go from constitutional monarchy to democracy
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>>165984674
Not only you're wrong, theocracies also don't allow you to pass voting reforms.
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>>165983147
>Codreanu
DELET THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>165984839
>Caro the Third
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>>165984839
Cody a cute desu
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Is it worth it keeping dis git around? He started the revolt that I just ended after I gave him lands trying to appease him for his high martial. He's a black orc too. Is it worth the trouble keeping him around for anything?
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>>165984839
>Caroll the First
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Did HPM guy ever add that Abraham Lincoln decision that sends Afro-American POPs to Liberia?
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>>165985236
>Not crumpin' uppity gits
gettin soft boss
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>>165969852
>>165970005
>>165973671
>>165976741
burn in a tire fire
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>>165985152
I SAID DELET

>>165984839
>>165985267
IT'S CAROL THE SECOND YOU FUCKS
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>>165985412
>Carolll (the Second)
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>>165985386
http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Modding_the_map

pretty much the same for Vicky 2
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>>165985527
ITS JUST FUCKING CAROL
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I am not sure where to expand to now. What do? I am feeling vietnam might be the best place but i got an event chain for the first opium war already.
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>>165985716
>That fucking map
Ew

Also, yeah take Vietnam
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>>165984217
Does this include the re-shaped provinces in Transvaal?
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>>165985994
>i-it's the Americans that always shitpost so much at midnight guise, I swear!
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>>165985994
>Windows 10
Fuck off
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>when r&i can't make his thread he sics steamcordplaza on us to shitpost
Epic frankly
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>>165986878
Yes, my friend
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is it autism
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>shitposts here usually get deleted on sight
>this just keeps going
hmmmm
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>>165986079
t. cletus jamal fernandez
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welp. GG bois. I am fucked. I can't even build a factory because it requires 2 machine parts and there's 1 unused in the whole world apprarently
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death comes for us all
пoмни o cмepти
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so do the Qing just fall apart through an event around 1900 or do i have to do something specific
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>>165983073
im playing ck2+ and have an empire with a fuck million imperial decadence I do not want to deal with

how the hell do I get my empire to collapse? As in no one has the title anymore?

I tried dying a bunch and after my decadence got to 204 nothing happened. How the hell can I force my empire to collapse
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>>165987820
Vicky/Ricky's economy is fundamentally broken. There's no shame in using the console to add resources when you're a Secondary Power and can't get anything.

People meme about the older games, but every Paradox GS game from before EUIII's Divine Wind expansion is pretty much unplayable by contemporary standards.
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reposting this ebin blobmod end-game so this thread has some games
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>>165989459
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>>165989313
>Vicky/Ricky's economy is fundamentally broken
How?
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>>165989920
Don't worry my friend
Ukrainian state will not last for much longer
ruthenia will soon be free
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can someone please fucking fix HPM, why is 90% of my adult male population launching a reactionary rebellion every 2 fucking years, I didn't even reform or do anything, it's fucking asinine
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were we just raided
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>>165990193
yes, sorry about that. won't happen again.
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>>165990193
Yes, and based mods did jack
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how long should I keep them occupied do you think
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>>165990351
until other countries start jumping in and taking shit
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>>165990351
Until rebels spawn.
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>tfw can't play any /gsg/ without vic2 pops
>love vic2 except the awful AI, combat, colonization mechanics
>ck2 is okay, but my fun is killed by it missing two things: pops and resources
>eu4 is eu4, and even pops wouldn't make it good
>hoi with pops (evw) is dead, hoi4 is fucking awful
>Tfw you realize your favorite genre is dead and will never merge the elements that made each niche title and instead traditional /gsg/ is being merged with casualized 4x mechanics
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>>165990098
constant rebellions is a vic 2 problem
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>>165990098
the retarded rebel AI has killed over 20 million of my pops since game start and it's only fucking 1874

>"we just won a rebellion and forced the government to roll back reforms, and now they aren't reforming? destroy them!"

i hope johan chokes on BBC and dies
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I won't be mean

this bit of bavaria pisses me the fuck off, it will take up to 11 infamy
luckily flanders is getting conquered by the netherlands so I won't have to conquest cb them

natural borders soon

and then vive le gommune
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>>165990815
Prob not, in reference to your name
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>>165990824
or la* I guess, whatever
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>the 1 (one) post they delete
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>>165990824
you planning on genocide?
>tfw no France minimod to make restoring France's natural borders easier
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>>165990620
Come to the dark side, join us in wargaming.
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Noob here, I started a game in vanilla and I'm thinking if getting El Dorado, can I use the new features in my old saved game?
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>>165991251
>tfw like wargames
>but the lack of strategic country-wide decision making and autistic infrastructure building kills it for me
>tfw no wargame with strategic command/decision/nation management and pops
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>>165990620
War in the East simulated population movement and has resources (factories and rail cap).
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>>165991435
probably not, but isn't that DLC old as fuck? just pirate the dlc
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>>165991501
>"population" means nothing
>"resources" in the form of mana points to magically poof troops into existence
No it doesn't.
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>>165989313
For the Glory is good.
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>>165991858
ello me mate
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>>165991226
there shall be no genocides in the commune
but only because I know it's pretty much impossible to make the rhineland french on the culture map
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>>165991467
The grigsby games have autistic supply line building and overall autistic logistics management.

The relatively new war game Strategic Command (the latest version) has a bunch of of high level decision making along with production.
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>Tfw Gambia is about to get blobbed by GrossSenegal irl

France beats the UK again
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>>165991692
Grigsbyfags btfo, based vicky always wins
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Somehow, Ricky/Victoria 1's AI is 10x better than Victoria 2 and Eu4 AI. The UK is somehow coordinating an invasion from india, hong kong, the shandong region, and by Shanghai at once. Those are seperate naval invasions making me split my forces.

The AI also knows transport troops to the landing grounds where I attack. I was beating the UK in an 80k vs 20k battle around Hong Kong when they reinforced their troops by boat to a 80k vs 80k battle.

That doesn't mean the AI has been perfect tho. It has marched hopelessly outnumbered troops into my doomstacks in bad terrain and has been crushed. But the AI does seem to know to try to stick to rough terrain when attacked. Overall, This is pretty difficult but a winnable Opium War.
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>>165992401
source
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>>165991692
>"population" means nothing
It does, no troops no reinforcements, no reinforcements no army, say hello to losing to attrition.

>"resources" in the form of mana points to magically poof troops into existence
You have clearly not played WitE or are just trolling, because this is absolutely not how production is done, every single unit is built in a factory located on the map. Every tank and plane uses up resources to be built in factories specific to that units design, a factory for tanks can't build planes etc.. bomb the factories enough or better yet, isolate the city they are located in then capture the factory before it can be relocated.

Where the Grigsby games are lacking compared to traditional GSGs is the political and trading aspect, but that is done by design, not by oversight.
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>>165992474
Just google The Gambia Crisis

President ain't steppin down senpai.
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>>165992401
>gambia has 2500 men and

>ONE
>N
>E

ONE SU-25
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>>165992520
why the fuck not
what a goddamned moron
what the hell does he think is gonna happen
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Is the Extended Timeline mod for EU4 any good? If I play within the original game's timeframe will the experience basically be the same?
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is it almost mandatory to colonize Africa and other places, especially if you're a small country, or can you just let it go if you aren't worried about minmaxing and being a superpower?
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>>165993480
it's fun but kind of shitty. I's pretty much just playing eu4 but a lot longer and with a few wierd changes that don't mesh with eu4 mechanics (like a secular religion). I also remember coring to be dirt cheap in the later start dates (like literally a dozen or so mana, and taking a few days. This might be changed/fixed though). Also the institution window is kinda buggy
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k lads is imperium universalis good? and also one last thing what mod should i use to play as byzantine purpura regenerati or just rosseta?
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is there a unit strength guide for Geheimnisnacht? I can't access the forums.
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>>165994516
try next time m8. stop shitting up the catalog, you re the idiot that deleted the first thread because someone took the first comment.
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>>165994516
Fuck off r&i
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Are there any contenders for a WitE multiplayer game?
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>R&I btfo, body parts now in orbit.
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Gentlemen, where may I find a download link for the 1.07 version of the NWO mod for Vic2? simsucksbbc only has the latest one at his website.
>heavy tank pic as incentive
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>>165994516
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>>165995261
sure, but I only have like 20 hours logged and like 10 of those are from reading the manual and the other 10 in small scenarios like roads to.
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>>165995261
I might add that, despite the picture, I am not necessarily looking to play the full campaign (although if that is what you want to do then sure)
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>>165994358
not really, but in general the more magical it is and the smaller the number of troops, the more powerful. a few blood dragon knights are equivalent to a thousand of troops or 200 artillery with proper infantry fodder can wipe out larger stacks.
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>>165995468
I have ~200 hours logged, 90% of which is me falling asleep at my laptop with the game still running in the background. I think I have spent about ~10 hours actually playing the game.

I'd be completely ok with playing a "road to" scenario for MP.
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>>165995763
Thats fine. I would prefer to play soviets since I like them more and brown>grey. I've got lecture in like 8 hours so I'm going to bed for now and if your still up for a game or something like that I guess I'll reply to one of your posts in how to get in contact
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favä
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is stellaris gsg yet?
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>>165996680
Never. The other general has it to keep their place alive.
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Is Brandenburg and then Prussia in EU4 really that easy/powerful, or have I been mem'd on?
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>>165996680
>implying we would want to come to this cesspool of humanity that is /gsg/
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>>165997840
Brandenburg can be a little annoying, but once you gt to Prussia. Man get ready to wreck cunts.
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>>165997907
So in the long run for forming Prussia (basically which base idea group works best with Prussia's) should I play as Brandenburg or Teutonic Order?
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>>165997878
>yet posts here
>due to a game /gsg/ kicked out

Nice one.
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>>165997840
they might have been nerfed since I played but they have really powerful military-focused ideas, which in tandem with military idea groups make them really op
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>>165983717
>>165983513
And every man a brother

>>165985236
>letting da boyz get the idea the next git who wanna call himself boss ain't getting a good stompin on he 'ead

Boss, da boyz dun need to be told dat
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>>165997996
Teutonic if you want more of a challenge. Brandenburg if you want more a simpler road.
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>>165997996
brandenburg has prussian ideas dumb cunt
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Is it possible to choose which holding to raid?
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>>165998094
Oh wow I'm sorry I play the CK2 instead which is the better game anyways
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>>165997998
>>due to a game /gsg/ kicked out
>

>implying

We left on our own accord.
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>>165985236
Black Orcs are designed to fuck shit up, wheter it's 'umies, Elves, or their own warboss. Black Orcs are cool if you can play as one but they will never stop trying to fuck you so you should probably just krump him.
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Whats a good comfy nation in HPM?
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Once again, possible DoD portman here, I'm looking to take some more input here on what you'd like to see in a porting out of PDM project, plus adding some things.

Obviously, I'm looking to get rid of the horses good - should it be entirely ridded of as a province/factory good, or should it be added to livestock? And should it be a building requirement for cavalry, or should it be a maintenance good, or both, or neither?

Similar look at the boots, thinking of merging that with the shoes as general footwear, but again, would like your input.

Personally speaking, I'd like to preserve as many of the expanded goods that make things interesting, while trying to cut down on goods bloat, and maybe changing ratio of what goods are needed for what.

Also, on a side note, any modders here, maybe they can explain - can you lock purchase and production of a good after a certain date or technology? I know you can activate it, but I'm looking to lock things like building clipper shipyards after a certain date, and eventually the disappearance of them as a good not too long after, to make sure capitalists don't try building them late game, while giving world navies time to adjust.


>>165980085
>>165980293
>>165980358
>>165980421
>>165981807
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Isaac's Empire EU4 mod when?
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>>165999118
I don't like DoD at all and even if you ported it and made it not shit I probably still wouldn't play it. That said I hate all goods added in by PDM and think that vanilla/HPM goods are the best and should be used. The problem with goods bloat is that there's a limited amount of provinces in the world and they all can only produce 1 good so you end up with shortages for the dumb reason that you had to decide whether a provinces produces iron or horses
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>>165985674
Carol is a girl's name.
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>>165999417
So besides the fact I really shouldn't care for your input as you've already said you're not going to play (more or less), there never, ever is a shortage of iron or steel. Even with the Great Wars, there is never a shortage since prices actually even dip down due to the increasing industrialization as the timeframe passes, because there is so much supply.

Also, a thought to bear in mind is that to have actual value and a motivation to produce goods, they need to have a price/scarcity to give people a reason to actually bother producing them (employment). Dye is a classical example, since there's such a lack of demand with the collapse of prices thanks to artificial dye factories that whole provinces dedicated to dye just vomit unemployment.

That said, for people interested, don't just restrict your thoughts to economy, if you want to see more events or scenarios play out, please say so.
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>>165987820
>I can't even build a factory because it requires 2 machine parts and there's 1 unused in the whole world apparently
Well duh, it's 1842. At the start of the game the only country that produces machine parts is UK and it's going to stay that way for a while.
Industrialization doesn't kick in until 50s.

Also make capitalists. Being able to manually promote pops is a cornerstone of Vicky and the key to industrialization.
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is there a way to get the cossack estate even if you're not in the eastern technology group?
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What's the point of needing to fabricate a cadus belli for every war you start in EVERY paradox game?

It's completely ahistorical, do you think Hitler asked for permission before he invaded the USSR, or the Turks before they invaded the Balkans?
Completely annoying and unnecessary mechanic
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>>166001972
Only way to get Cossacks estate is to be christian and have eastern tech group, sorry. Why? What's the issue/concern?
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>>166002931
>What's the point of needing to fabricate a cadus belli for every war you start in EVERY paradox game?

You don't
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>>166002931
You don't need a CB to fuck shit up in EU4, m8. You just take a stability hit and gain an international reputation as a war mongering cock gobbler without one.
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>>166002931
well you don't need cbs on the HoI series, just like Hitler didn't need them
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>>166002931
The game that handles the time period for the example you gave provides for this situation. Not to mention there is evidence that Hitler had a CB of sorts.
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>>166002990
Was hoping there was a trick/work around, or that the wiki was wrong.

I've figured out how to become poland with the nomadic tech group, so 100% cav ratio possible.
Cossacks would've been nice for another 20% cav combat ability.
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>>166002931
In CK2 it's because you're "civilized." Unreformed Pagans can just rampage indiscriminately. That's actually how the Mongols and Aztecs work as well.
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>>166002931
Why do you have to declare war? History was never like that. It was usually constant conflict and raids and the lines between war and peace blurred.
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>>166002931
>What's the point of needing to fabricate a cadus belli for every war you start in EVERY paradox game?
>
>It's completely ahistorical, do you think Hitler asked for permission before he invaded the USSR, or the Turks before they invaded the Balkans?
>Completely annoying and unnecessary mechanic>>

>having to justify a war to your own people/nobility/rulling class is unnecessary
I'll take "Shit that every backstabbed tyrant says ever" for 500 $ Alex.
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>>166003049
>be fascist country
>want to invade your neighbour
>"well you're shit outta luck m8 cuz you first need to wait a year until you justified a war goal"
Nah fuck this
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>>166003087
>figured out how to become poland with the nomadic tech group
Start as nomad, change primary culture to polish, and conquer the main polish provinces?
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>spend 7 hours invading USA and Canada melting 400+ combined divisions while island hopping in pacific
>game crashes right after i annex USA and Canada and escaping american fleet of 200~ ships pops out of the port and gets into a fight
I've reeeeed like a frog.
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>>166003313
>Start as nomad, change primary culture to polish, and conquer the main polish provinces?

Naeh.

Can't form poland if you have steppe nomad government.
And if you reform your government, you change tech group.
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>>166003203
You ARE playing as the government in those games. The Soviet government didn't justify shit to anyone when they reconquered the Caucasus republics. Neither would have monarchs, unless maybe towards poweful nobility as you said, but then they would usually be part of the regime as well.
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>>166003409
Hate how clunky and unstable this game gets in lategame
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>>166003428
>Naeh.
>provides no explanation as to how

Ok, have fun with your antisocialness.
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>>166003643
Isn't it called asociality
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>>166003439
>The Soviet government didn't justify shit to anyone
They did tho, that's what propaganda and politburo meetings where all about.

>On 26 November 1939, a border incident was reported near the village of Mainila. A Soviet border guard post had been shelled by an unknown party resulting, according to Soviet reports, in the deaths of four and injuries of nine border guards. Research conducted by several Finnish and Russian historians later concluded that the shelling was carried out from the Soviet side of the border by an NKVD unit with the purpose of providing the Soviet Union with a casus belli and a pretext to withdraw from the non-aggression pact.[74][F 12]
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>>166003643
Wanted to see if you had more guesses or knew of a better way.

Made an image showing the key steps if you want to see
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>>166003439
>The Soviet government didn't justify shit to anyone when they reconquered the Caucasus republics.

They did. Hitler also did justify everything he did, either by Lebensraum or revenge for Treaty of Versaille etc.
You always have to justify shit ESPECIALLY if we are talking about not so centralized government as in most of Paradox games.
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>>166003805
Finland isn't in the Caucasus though and we're talking about the 20's, not late 30's here
You cannot deny that countless wars have been fought out of surprise, at least due to the tactical element of surprise this provided
Blitzkrieg just being the most recent example, but also the PRC's invasion of India's Himalaya region with heavy casualties on both sides
War just didn't look like this: "hey guise, I'm planning to start a war soon, let's just wait 3 months until everybody is ok with it and the enemy will have gained intel on our plans"
It just didn't work like that
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>>166003990
Those were moral justifications based on ideology or history that could be made up and fed to the press on a whim. They didn't need to be "fabricated" over the course of months.
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>>166004040
>Finland isn't in the Caucasus though
And an exception doesn't make the rule.
Regardless, the motive they never justified shit for the caucasus countries is because they were reconquered as part of the russian civil war. The soviets never recognized their independence and these countries were all part of the civil war.

>fought out of surprise
Which doesn't mean they didn't have a CB.
The surprise is when and how you attack, not on your hostile intentions.

>Blitzkrieg just being the most recent example,
Fuck you are retarded.
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>>166004040
>Blitzkrieg just being the most recent example
That's why they got so much aggressive expansion and a stab hit
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>>166004140
Yes he did. He pushed propaganda and have been steering public opinion and climate for months if not years for people to agree with him..

Even fucking Crusaders "justified" Crusades by those stories about how pilgrims are harrased etc.
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k lads what should i do , form prussia as brudensburg and then form germany? or become the emperor as prussia and form the holy roman empire>
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>3 iperatrix in a row
>they all fucking perverts
t. Russia
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>>166004631
rev up those horses
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>>166004604
depends on what your goals are besides that
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>>166004631
>EXTENDED TIMELINE
>Female ruler, Female heir and now a female consort
>as Rome
UGG this is probably one of the most disgusting things i have ever seen.
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>>166004409
During the Crimea annexation. Did Putin first inform his press and people over the course of months that he intends to take this piece of land, or was it more of a spontaneous and surprising decision on his part? Or did he justify it after the fact, to keep the population on his side in the conflict?

All Paradox games should function like Eu4, where you can invade whenever but potentially take reputation/morale hits. Especially in a wargame like Hoi4. Don't see how you can just dismiss my examples as "exceptions".
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>>166004683
well the usual, crusade trough asia minor, form jersualem and have them as a march together with the knights, probably try and save byzantium and then declare war on them so they convert to Catholicism and have them protect anatolai. you know aka Having godlike borders.
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>>166004784
Catholic and more religious ambitions then.

I'd say HRE over germany then.
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>>166004735
Remind me again, which Paradox game covers the 21st century?
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>>166004735
>still trying to push the goalposts
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Dagestan
The Invasion of Dagestan was the casus belli for the Second Chechen War.

Outing invaded Chechnya with that casus belli.

>my examples
Your example, a single one, isn't even a valid one because we are talking about a region declaring independence, not being recognized and not being able to force the soviets to recognize it.

The USSR did use CBs. Fuck even Hitler used them. Justifications for war are a part of basically every fucking war.
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>>166004735
Putin originally moved into the area to "maintain order" to ensure the safety of russians. There are similiar CBs in paradox games.
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>>166004735
>During the Crimea annexation. Did Putin first inform his press and people over the course of months that he intends to take this piece of land, or was it more of a spontaneous and surprising decision on his part?
Putin and Russia literally weren't involved until Crimea voluntarily defected from Ukraine and annexed itself into Russia.
Notice complete lack of Russian designation on brave militas that took over the province to protect their people.
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>>166004889
>>166004906
>>166004958
>>166005343
Shut the fuck down!
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>>166004735
>During the Crimea annexation. Did Putin first inform his press and people over the course of months that he intends to take this piece of land,
The whole rebel-referendum shit was the cause. Using fake "Patriot" rebels is one of the oldest tactics known to men. He never even declared war, so he didn't use a CB. He supported rebels, that's it.

Paradox games only deal with open warfare, not with covert or asymmetrical warfare.
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How should I design paratrooper divisions? Reddit said combat width 40 is optimal, but what about artillery and the likes?

Worth/not worth?
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>>166006139
In what ? HOI3 vanilla ? with mods ? HOI4 ?
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>>166006256
Hoi4 with TfV
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>>166006516
Cant say i have much exp with HOI4 but i would guess :
6 x Paratroopers battalion
and AA, AT, Art Companies plus field hospital and radio company.
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>>166004958
>>166005343
>>166004906
I think the point is that forging these cb's takes way too long, which I agree with. Why shouldn't Germany just be allowed to march into the Netherlands for the sake of "protecting their fellow Germanics", or to "protect them from Allied influence" (essentially what they did in Operation Weserübung). Or why shouldn't Russia be able to launch a surprise attack against Poland to "protect the Skavic workers" or some bullshit like that?
In Hoi4, a justification at the beginning of the game takes what, 270 days? Way too long and unrealistic. Although the inital statement that wars require absolutely no justification is retarded.
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>>166006689
>In Hoi4,
Found your problem.
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>>166006689
>Why shouldn't Germany just be allowed to march into the Netherlands for the sake of "protecting their fellow Germanics"
you can do this in eu4
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>>166006619
Thanks man. What about logistics companies though, I mean these guys will be behind enemy lines most the time. Or are the radio company benefits better?
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>>166006750
Well in real life Paratroopers in WW2 weren't suppose to do any logistics as they were expected to link up with the main forces in less than 48 hours.
I have no idea how is this viable in HOI4.
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>>166006750
Paratroopers are literally teleports behind you and their main job in WWII was to disrupt shit from behind or weaken (or even take) poorly defended positions behind lines before the main army slammed through and got them back
If the main army didn't come through the paratroopers were pretty much dead
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Seeing as Africamod guy forgot to link to his mod I will do it for him
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ
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>>166007046
>humans are cheerios
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>>166006689
>forging these cb's takes way too long
>moving the goalposts even further

Forging a CB is, most of the time, fabricating an incident. You don't do this shit overnight. And even after the incident is done sometimes you spend weeks or months raising tensions and spewing propaganda.

>"protecting their fellow Germanics", or to "protect them from Allied influence"
Because that isn't fabricating a CB, that's just a poor excuse.
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>>166007198
>facebook
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>>166007232
>retard
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>>166007260
where's it from then
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>>166007232
what are you, an autist?
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>>166007198
Ew.

>>166007201
>poor excuse
How the fuck is that relevant?
That's what the Germans did while conquering Denmark and Norway. The Allies invaded Iran because they wanted a land connection to Russia. Why should innocent Iran suffer because some guys need logistics?
If it's possible in real life it should be possible in the game as well.
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>>166007381
>If it's possible in real life it should be possible in the game as well.
It is possible in at least one of the games. It's not a cb you're fabricating though.
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>>166007381
>How the fuck is that relevant?
Its relevant for your public image because not everything can be solved by force and Hitler failed to understand that. Like every failed ruler in history.
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>>166007726
>failed ruler

Hitler succeeded in his one true goal. The creation of Israel. He was a kike puppet.
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>>166007726
Well technically you should be able to be a failed leader and I think that's what he's saying, which is possible in EU.

>>166007381
Also, you could make the argument that, unless your government is totalitarian in nature, you will literally be unable to declare war unless your NA agrees with you.
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>>166006689
>In Hoi4, a justification at the beginning of the game takes what, 270 days?
Meanwhile in HoI2 it takes 0 days and you just take a dissent penalties depending on how totalitarian are your political sliders.

Although democracies need a form of casus belli in a form of belligerence score.
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>>166007747
Go home /po/, ur drunk.
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>>166007381
>How the fuck is that relevant?
Because a poor excuse isn't a CB.
A casus belli in game represents a fabricated incident, that's why it takes time.
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How do I catch up in tech? I got advisors and focus, but I have no rivals to humiliate for easy mana.

Also, first sighting of the Europeans on foot. Spooky.
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>be in a war/genocide survey class
>history professor did his thesis on german/polish populations and specializes in Europe
>he turns to the class and points to modern day Lithuania on a map
>"I'll give a dollar to anyone who knows what this country is."
>have 2000+ hours of map autism
>my hand immediately shoots up, obviously right
>"aw shucks, i don't have a dollar today haha"
>class chuckles
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>>166007949
>institution tech penalty - 0%
Fucking retarded shit

>>166007976
Serves you right desu for trying to show off
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Based Stalin
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is MEIOU for eu3 any good or is it a meme mod like D&T?
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Paging AARnon
Did you see the names I provided for your last question? You never responded so I don't know if you got it
>>165921715 answer to >>165910028.
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>>166008028
I used gamey shit. Sue me.
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>>166008053

>Entente powers balkanize Hungary to form Yugoslavia
>Hungary lose 1/3rd of all Hungarians
>Reduced to the smallest Hungary has been as a nation for over a 1000 years.
>"wow hungary you won't let immigrants in, what a bunch of intolerant savages"
>"wow hungary why are you so right wing, you might as well be nazis!!!"

hungarian bros you won't ever be forgotten as the shield of Europe
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>>166008503
>gamey
You mean the retarded fact that you can instantly adopt institutions because some whiteboi landed next to you
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>>166008053
>not wanting this Hungary

btw the political parties for Hungary are pretty shit. Before the commies appear, the only non-antimilitary parties are the anliberals and liberals. I had to switch to liberals every I was going to war. Fucking up my economy in the process.
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>>166007949
What did you do?

Develop feudalism in a province, and then release that province as an opm and then reform through that?
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>>166008532
>You mean the retarded fact that you can instantly adopt institutions because some whiteboi landed next to you
He'd have better tech if he did that.
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>>166006619
>>166006139
>>166006750
20 combat width is optimal, not 40. You also can't attach AA/AT/Art because you can't drop them unless they changed something in the last patch that I don't know about.

You want 10x Paras, 1 Recon, 1 Engineer, 1 field hospital, 1 logistics and 1 maintenance.
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>>165985970
What's wrong with that map? Is still looks better then HoI 1/2 map and province shapes aren't completely atrocitious.
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>>166007830
>Meanwhile in HoI2 it takes 0 days and you just take a dissent penalties depending on how totalitarian are your political sliders.

Just another reason why HOI4 is complete trash.

>>166008712
>You also can't attach AA/AT/Art because you can't drop
You can paradrop COMPANIES, not batalions.
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>>166008532
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>>165991845
It's not made by Paradox though.
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>>166008564
Yeah, used Tlaxcala since it was very close to home.

>>166008637
Indeed, but if I had waited for Europeans, I'd quit. They've been really slow on the whole colonization thing.
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>>166008751
Yes but you said 8x Para which implies 2x some kind of art batallion, but you don't want the support art anyways and here's why: your divisions will run out of supply that much faster so you need to hold on as much as possible (thus the engineer), save as much org as possible (thus the recon to make battles go faster and lack of support art because it heavily reduces org) and you need to preserve supply (thus the logistics, maintanence and hospital). Support art is really bad for paradrops because you have a much larger chance at wasting your paratroopers with it.
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>>166008809
>Ming
Every time, simply eric
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>>166008545
The reactionaries ara anti-military?
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>>166008927
Yes.
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>Reading Edward Paice's WW1 on the African Front.
>WW1 Germany's last remaining active military naval cruiser captained by Loofe trapped in the Rifiji delta and blockaded by britbongs.
>All other German colonies capitulating but based Lettow-Vorbeck making sure East Africa doesn't.
>Wagglin' Willy decides to help out his loyalty citizens by smuggling tons of ammo, shells, medicine, etc. and all kinds of other desperately needed supplies so German Africa can hold out.
>Germany repurposes a British steamship and names it the "Kronborg" with a Danish flag, then sails it all the way to Africa before being caught by the British blockade, but not before securing all of its cargo onto the mainland.
>One of the South Jutland crewmen was asked how they evaded British naval dominance after the smuggling run
>"True, Britannia ruled the waves, but here and there you can still find one or two not quite under control, and we sail on those."

based as fuck
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>>166008897
>Yes but you said 8x Para which implies 2x some kind of art batallion

This is my post : >>166006619
I said 6 Paras with companies.
But then again i dont know that much about HOI4 and i deffer to your judgement.
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>>166009229
>True, Britannia ruled the waves, but here and there you can still find one or two not quite under control, and we sail on those
10/10 bantz
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>>166009296
There's no reason to have a combat width under 20 or 22/24 if you have the proper general and/or are using Deep Battle unless they're MP divisions. Realistically, it would make sense to have support artillery for paratroopers as in real life, but the large org hit for the soft attack increase just isn't worth it when you can extend the length of your supplies.
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>>166008878
>>166007949
Jesus your corruption is atrocious.
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Well this is an interesting Europe so far.
If I want the SPQR cheevo, do I have to take kingdom territory that's de jure drifted too? Gonna have to conquer Nubia if that's the case.
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>>166009423
Because very bad religious unity. The only good-terrain province I had was a Mayan one, and I forgot it wasn't Nahuatl, so I developed it, even made it my capital, and forced Renaissance and Colonialism to spawn there, thus it gave me a huge corruption + every year.

I'm putting almost 6 ducats a month on fixing it now, but my inflation is a mess too because of all the gold. Not to mention I'm really behind in tech and can't even afford ideas.

Fuck.
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where the everloving FUCK do I find NWO 1.07, I can't handle the nuked by canuckland 8 times anymore
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>>166009534

you need all your de jure territory.

>going past the danube and sacrificing your natural roman borders

no lad stop
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>>166009619
>implying Dacia isn't rightful roman clay
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>>166009619
I didn't want to, but Bulgaria blobbed past it de jure. Maybe I can fix it by giving the land to Hungary or something?
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>>166008532
>>166008637
>>166008503

Institutions are completely retarded.

>save up points before an institution date
>dev bomb a province
>wow you now have that tech growing in your country because reasons
>implying it makes sense you can turn a 3/3/3 developed province into a metropolis that rivals Vienna or Constantinople in a mere month by spamming your mana

or even worse

>ming has discovered colonialism!!!
>all of europe completely falls behind despite creating vast colonial empires

don't even get me started on multiplayer where literally every player abuses this.

nothing against your gamey aztec game, but institutions need a serious rework.
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>>166009805
>nothing against your gamey aztec game, but EU4 need a serious rework.

Fixed that for you mate.
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>>166009657

>take dacia
>entire roman empire fractures and slowly fades away

that's what happens when you let the gypsies in
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>>166009805
imo mana should be funneled over time through sliders to avoid things like that.

So instead of buying the next two admin techs instantly you funnel some amount of mil power into the next tech advancement each month.

Like maybe up to twice the amount of your gain in that mana type.
So it would instead take several years if you tried to force in an institution.
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>>166009534
I wonder how much of a pain in the ass it'd be to form Rome as a Republic. Starting as Amalfi or something.
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>>166009805
>>ming has discovered colonialism!!!
>>all of europe completely falls behind despite creating vast colonial empires
That's not a thing though.
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>>166009805
>all of europe completely falls behind despite creating vast colonial empires
Colonialism doesn't spread through adjacency alone. If anything, Europe will still embrace it faster than Asia due to having actual Colonial Nations boosting spread speed as opposed to relying only on adjacency.
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>>166009547
I'd start over.

I don't think I've ever even reached a corruption of 2.


If not, I guess putting national focus on adm.
Usually I'd go with exploration as the first idea, but you have so many internal problems I that I don't know.

Why do you only have 1 missionary btw?
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>>166010210
Corruption and Inflantion are really no biggie, should be completely gone in a decade.

Only one missionary because that's the default. I only got one idea group unlocked, and can't even afford to unlock ideas because my tech is behind.

How's one supposed to play as natives? Jesus.
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>>166010312
>Only one missionary because that's the default. I only got one idea group unlocked, and can't even afford to unlock ideas because my tech is behind.
What happened to Cholula?
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HoI III Babby here. Two questions:
1. How do you navally transport an entire army from one place to another? By which I mean the entire OoB of a certain army, not every single piece individually?
2. Let's say I have infantry divisions with a certain brigade structure (for example: infantry, infantry, infantry) and I change the composition of that division in the production screen (for example: infantry, infantry, artillery, tank destroyer). How do I update my troops in the field from the old composition to the new one?
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>>166010358
>What happened to Cholula
You can still buy it at the store. I don't know why you would, that shit sucks.
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>>166010358
Whelp, I didn't know that was a triggered modifier. Tlaxcala still owns it, it's where I released them in order to reform the religion.

Thanks.
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>>166010384
>1. How do you navally transport an entire army from one place to another? By which I mean the entire OoB of a certain army, not every single piece individually?

>get units to port
>station transport fleet at port
>click load troops
>set destination of transport
>et voila

>2. Let's say I have infantry divisions with a certain brigade structure (for example: infantry, infantry, infantry) and I change the composition of that division in the production screen (for example: infantry, infantry, artillery, tank destroyer). How do I update my troops in the field from the old composition to the new one?
Certain brigades can upgrade only to certain others ( anti tank to tank destroyers for example ), you cant change infantry to artillery.
Once deployed, every brigade that can be changed has the small grey arrow above them, click it and there will be a list of things it can be changed to.
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>>166010521
1. Thanks!
2. Ah, so I can only upgrade the brigades themselves but I'll have to change division structure manually? That sucks. Especially once you unluck Superior Firepower, then you'll manually have to add a fifth brigade to every division. That's tedium on a horrible, horrible scale.
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>>166010592
>2. Ah, so I can only upgrade the brigades themselves but I'll have to change division structure manually? That sucks. Especially once you unluck Superior Firepower, then you'll manually have to add a fifth brigade to every division. That's tedium on a horrible, horrible scale.
Not really. Just produce number of those additional brigades and once they are ready to deployed you have that window where you see every not-maxed division and you can deploy them directly there.
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>>166010504
How much corruption do you get from unbalanced tech atm?

And you said you could get ideas, but you were at adm tech 2? Old screenshot?
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>>166010659
>France 2060
;_;
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>>166010853
>french

I highly doubt it.
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I got a pretty good start, infamy is at 0 so I figured I'll go for something that's now unprotected after the Soviets fell prematurely. Belarus and Slovakia are the most immediate ones who are vulnerable. Should I turn them into puppets or just outright annex them? Belarus doesn't have any interesting RGOs, Slovakia sits at 2 coal provinces and 1 copper.
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>>166010986
Go for Ukraine and baltics, create Intermarium
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-47-species-rights.995302/

Apologise
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>>166011067
Still have a truce with Ukraine after I took my cores, went for Belarus instead and got kicked in the dick after 2 days.
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>>166011149
There is still nothing to do 99% of the time in Stellaris. It's the least engaging Paradox game by far and that isn't going to change that fact.
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>>166011149
Wrong thread lad
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Got HoI4 in the last sale, how important is the DLC for that?
Are the changes any relevant if you're not plaiying as the UK and its Commonwealth?
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>>166011226
>implying there is anything to do in EU4
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>>166011251
At least you can fuck around with your provinces, tech, and tradelanes which gives you something to do. If you're not at war in Stellaris, there's nothing to do because the pop management doesn't really respond to player actions, you can only control a small number of planets before you HAVE to hand over control to a vassal, and trade is done at the click of a button.
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>>166010986
>1966
>Poles are still illiterate
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>>166011367
If I remember correctly in NWO the literacy is actually a measure of higher education. I think it measures number of people who completed high school or above.
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>>166010005
This but also >>166009805; the institutions shouldn't be limited to one province.
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Can I exploit the fact that my current liege is a weak motherfucker who's also my son-in-law in any way?

I'm pretty new to this game.
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>>166011201
You should also unite all western slavs under one flag.
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>>166011367
It's climbing pretty fast

>>166011654
I've got my eyes on Czechia but it's protected by Russia at the moment
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>>166011440
>the institutions shouldn't be limited to one province.
What do you mean?
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>RPM 2 for HoI3
>"Want more historical detail?"
>"No, seriously, want a LOT more historical detail?"
>"Want to take notice as your nation progresses through all the classic models of WWII?"
>download and start as Japan
>see this
>delete mod
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>>166011781
There's no specific reason why institutions need to spawn in one specific province.
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Why are video game developers so fucking awful? Paradox Entertainment keeps pumping out only garbage. They would be absolutely curbstomped if an honest, competent developer arrived at the scene and released a grand strategy game. Literally the only reason why people purchase/pirate anything from Paradox right now is simply because of the fact that they are the only high budget developers developing any grand strategy games at the moment. There is no real alternative to speak of right now.

Why hasn't this been done yet? It's such an obvious gap in the market, yet only Paradox fills in the niche.
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>>166011792
What is the matter?
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>>166011975
explain how you'd make it function instead
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>>166012049
I don't see the meaning of institutions as such seperate entities for one, but you could simply have institutions spawn with a relatively high MTTH after the first one shows up. It's like how Moveable Type Printing Press was a thing in China and Korea for 500 years before it became a thing in Europe but it was developed seperately there; make the MTTH 30-50 years or something.
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>>165984217
critique: its shit

suggestion: kill yourself
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>>166012162
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>>166012015
Nagato is the lead ship of her own class.
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>>166012234
Retard here, what does that mean?
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>>166012268
It's a Nagato-Class ship, not an Ise-Class ship. The anon is retarded though because it wouldn't be possible to mod that in HoI3.
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>>166012012
There're Ageod and Matrix games who develop and publish their own grand strat games.
Also it's because I doubt that you can create a grand strat game in an engine like Unity or Unreal and most faggots nowadays use those 2 engines + it require a shitton of work - you have to write description for all those events and shit.
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>>166012143
So just a mtth to happen for a country to get an institution instead is what you'd?
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Is Jemmah /ourguy/?
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>>166012268
Look at the image, the Ise-class is a different(older) class of BBs. The Nagato-class(therefore Nagato is the leadship of her own class) is a the successor of the Ise-class.

>>166012302
Pretty sure Ise refit isn't vanilla, why would it not be possible?
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>>166012367
Obviously they need to have the criteria first, but multiple development 'centers' makes sense to me.
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>>166012392
>culture of Africa

lel
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Kaiserreich for Hearts of Iron IV Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!dVV3xADS!vnrE6vWGAQWDbiMEDKC_JQ!FQ9CALoT
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>>166012012
Probably because of how niche GS games are. You have two big developers, Paradox and Matrix and that's it. One for casuals (Paradox) and one for grognards (Matrix). It's not a widespread genre and thus won't have the same innovations as genres that are.

>>166012323
AGEOD was bought out by Paradox, just FYI.

>>166012415
Because nearly everything in HoI3 is hardcoded and can't be modded.
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>>166012452
Sounds pretty shit desu and doesn't add or solve anything, while possibly ruining some things.
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What's a good colonial name for a Welsh controlled Colombia that was colonised primarily by Catholic Italians?
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Rate my proposed change to the coring system of EU4.

>Remove admin point spending to core provinces
>All provinces have a base time to be cored of 100 years, meaning if you hold a province that long it will become a core
>If the province is of your religion that gets cut in half
>If it's your culture group it also gets cut in half
>And again if it is your culture

This means that for most expansion you'd have a base time of either 50 or 25 years for something to become your core. It would also lead to situations where really only nations with similar cultures would have claims in each others land, which is what happened more historically.
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Is Military/Naval Tradition very hard to get to high levels?

Even when I'm a warmongering blob machine, I seem to have trouble getting these numbers to a level that would benefit me greatly.

I don't fundamentally understand how you can go to war as often as this requires and not have 0 manpower.
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>>166012703
I like it but I think there should also be events for speeding up or slowing down coring time, and also decisions to be made as to whether or not you WANT it to be a core section of your nation since sometimes you really don't consider tracts of land to be core interests.
Further, how is this going to tie into the change of culture? Are we going the MEIOU way where it happens naturally over time?
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>>166012703
B-but blobs anon! What would players spend their mana on now and how would the AI decide to grossly blob?
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>>166012567
Model names aren't hardcoded.
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>>166012834
But likely the trigger for the Nagato is.
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>>166012797
Not really sure, but it would make stuff like converting culture not useless.

Honestly I'm just tired of being able to take provinces that aren't even in my culture group, and of a different religion, and it being a fucking CORE province of my nation in 4 years.

And it's basically the EU3 system but with modifications for religion, culture, etc. I believe EU3 just had a base of 50 years no matter what.
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>>166012567
>AGEOD was bought out by Paradox, just FYI.

Yeah, when? Ageod games aren't published by Paradox anymore. They cooperate with Matrix Games/Slitherine.
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>>166013019
2009

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/paradox-interactive-acquires-strategy-developer-ageod.450218/
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>>166012972
I think culture shouldn't be so easy to convert and should be more of a passive thing, maybe with adjustments / policies so you can 'focus' on assimilating.
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>Pretending any Paradox game can ever be anything more than a map painter

When will you learn
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>>166013073
>2009

You're wrong.

>In 2012, Paradox France was split away from Paradox Development Studio to work exclusively on games utilizing the AGE engine, with full autonomy. Development of Napoleon's Campaigns II was shifted from being partially developed by Paradox Development Studio to being solely developed by them, utilizing the Clausewitz engine.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGEod
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>be me with a wife
>take three concubines as a good jarl I am
>have my first son with a concubine
>second with wife
>concubine son dies under suspicious circumstances
>have a third son with a concubine
>kid is suddenly ill
>only the concubine sons are ill, never the girls

I can't prove it's my wife, but it's my wife, right?
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>>166013161
They're still owned by Paradox, they're just an autonomous subsidiary

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/paradox-interactive-paradox-france.611767/
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>>166013182
Well my lord, I feel it is time to get new concubines.
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>>166013263
>This means that Slitherine, Matrix and Ageod, the three major players in the digital strategy and wargaming market, are now merged.

http://www.ageod-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=27291

Seems like they're cucking Paradox hard.
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>>166013182
Yeah probably.
If you want to keep your sons alive you might want to get a good spymaster checking for plots.
Also you didn't make her your spymaster right?
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>>166013469
News to me. The way Johan phrased it seemed like a subsidiary, not a complete split. I'll concede it.
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>>166013469
Not really, they have different market shares. Wargaming is different from grand strategy.
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>>166012743
You mostly rely on ideas for army tradition.
Quality gives +1, defensive gives +1.
Aristocratic gives -1% decay.

Keep in mind that yearly army tradition is a fixed number while the decay is a percentage.

Enough forts active+Def ideas+Qual ideas+Aristo ideas and you'll have an equilibrium at 75.
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>>166013628
Slitherine and Matrix produce a lot more than just wargames.
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>>166013675
Ok, mobile games and wargaming.

They don't do grand strategy at all.
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>>166013734
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>>165985716
Tibet
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There's something I don't get here, it clearly says 56%, by the exact number I get 1034 trade power out of 1825 total, so why am I not getting that sweet sweet bonus merchant?
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>>166013737
>what is Pride of Nations
They do grand strategy. Either way, grand strategy is just short for Grand Strategy Wargame s.
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>>165992624
You know you're fucked when your Air-force strength isn't even it's own page on wikipedia.
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>>166013737
They publish War in the West/East/Pacific though + some of Ageod games are grand strat.
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>>166013737
> What is Distant Worlds
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>>166013798
Pride of nations isn't GS

> short for Grand Strategy Wargame s.
No it isn't

>>166013846
produce =/= publish

>>166013816
None of those are grand strategy
>Russian civil war
>grand strategy
>one front in WW1
>grand strategy
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>>166013816
>>166013675
>>166013798
>>166013846
It's probably the autist that thinks Grigsby and DW aren't GS, just let him go lads.
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In what folder can I find the EU4 flag of my CK2 > EU4 converted nation?
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>>166013896
>Pride of Nations is a turn-based grand strategy video game set in the 19th century, which allows player to play as one of the great powers (United Kingdom, United States, France, Austria, Russia and Japan), to industrialise their nation, or expand their nation with military conquest and colonization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_of_Nations


>No it isn't
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_strategy_wargame
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>>166013896
> produce =/= publish
Slitherine provides the engine to Distant Worlds, so it is very much involved in its design despite being a publisher.

Again, retarded.
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>>166013896
>one front in WW1
Central Powers in To End All Wars have more than one front.

>Pride of nations isn't GS

Victoria 2 isn't GS then

>produce =/= publish

True, but they're the ones with money and smaller developers who develop those games get paid by them
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>>165992808
Fiddle while Rome burns. Most likely the worst that will happen to him is exile, he doesn't care if people who didn't elect him are killed in a short brutal war.
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>>166013980
>Slitherine provides the engine to Distant Worlds, so it is very much involved in its design
That's like saying the team behind Unity developed all the unity games.
Absolutely retarded.

>>166013973
>if it's written in wikipedia it's true
>a GS where you can play only as 6 nations
oh boy

>A grand strategy wargame is a wargame
>is a wargame
Thanks for playing.

>inb4 it's that retard who thinks "GS is a subgenre of 4X"

>>166014058
Sorry, WW2.

>Victoria 2 isn't GS then
>pride of nations is anything like V2
lmao

>True
Glad that's settled then.
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>>166013905
Nvm I found it.

How do I change an existing country's name and color in VIC2?
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>>166014279
> That's like saying the team behind Unity developed all the unity games.
> Absolutely retarded.

Except Unity doesn't work in close cooperation with everyone who develops using their engine.

Retards can't into nuance, obviously, or you are just autistic over being wrong.

Once again, retarded.
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>>166002931
Didn't Hitler have a half-ass CB about Russian soldiers attacking a German radio station but it was Germans in Russian uniforms or was that Poland?

Wait I think Germany used pre emptive strike reasoning saying the USSR was getting ready to attack them. Which is a matter of debate.
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>>166014301
Nvm I found that too
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>>166014336
>Except Unity doesn't work in close cooperation
Neither does Slithering with Distant Words. Nor did you provide any proof it was developed on their engine.
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Wait, what? Some random Russian high chief discovered that the world is round?

OK
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>>166014409
>middle of Russian winter
>what else is to do than smoke weed, fuck slav girls and think about the universe

Seems actually legit.
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>>166014279
>Thanks for playing.
Prepared to get triggered by the same page laddo

>The Hearts of Iron and Europa Universalis series are examples

You really are that autist aren't you? I'm gonna start posting my current WitW campaign just to trigger you.
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>>166014409
>Historically, Heliocentrism was opposed to geocentrism, which placed the Earth at the center. The notion that the Earth revolves around the Sun had been proposed as early as the 3rd century BC by Aristarchus of Samos, but at least in the medieval world, Aristarchus's Heliocentrism attracted little attention—possibly because of the loss of scientific works of the Hellenistic Era.
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>>166014279
>a GS where you can play only as 6 nations

Not true. You can play as any nation in the game.

>pride of nations is anything like V2

Well, you're right Victoria 2 is a primitive game compared to PoN

>True

They still provide their own people to those studios. Mostly artists.
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>>166014409
1400 years late
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>>166014467
>he doesn't even know how to fucking read

Let me quote myself again
>if it's written in wikipedia it's true
Next time use some random youtuber as a source, it's as trustable.
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>>166014490
>Not true. You can play as any nation in the game.
Which are 6 nations.

>Well, you're right Victoria 2 is a primitive game compared to PoN
Define "primitive".
Honestly PoN is shit, it has way less time and the economy and tech system sucks. It's closer to Civ than Victoria 2.

>They still provide their own people to those studios.
Which still doesn't make them a developer, just a publisher, even if your claim was right.
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>>165983073
Austria was my greatest ally during my war of independence and I have rewarded her accordingly with rightful borders and a joint war to crush the Pr*ssian scum of the north.
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>>166014617
> Honestly PoN is shit, it has way less time and the economy and tech system sucks. It's closer to Civ than Victoria 2.
> Translation: "I don't know how to play it, thus it's not a grand strategy"
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>>166014836
At least Paradox games work
I couldn't even get PoN to not crash at menu, and this is a very common problem

(not him btw)
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>>166014836
Oh boy, it's the old "I assume you don't know how to play that's why you don't like the game and I will not give any reasons why said game is better nor define any of the things I said about it".
You sure got me with that ad hominem bro.
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>>166014617
>Which are 6 nations.

You can play as every single nation in the world.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/how-to-play-as-other-nations.539641/

>Honestly PoN is shit, it has way less time and the economy and tech system sucks. It's closer to Civ than Victoria 2.

It has much deeper military system than Victoria 2. Factories and various resources also play bigger role. Same for railroads.

>way less time

And yet you'll probably spend more time playing than in Victoria 2 where you just let it run because you need to lower infamy.
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>>166014939
Works on my machine :^)
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>>166014982
I don't give a shit about whether you like the game or not, you gargantuan autist. That was not even the original point, which you yourself seem to have forgotten, or consciously changed it mid-discussion and hope everyone doesn't notice; forgets it.

I was pointing out the fact that you not liking the game doesn't make it any less of a grand strategy game.

Learn to read before you post dumb shit on the Internet next time.
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>>166015029
>It has much deeper military system than Victoria 2
Because it's a wargame. And it has that at the expense of economy, trading, pops and technology. Unsurprisingly for a wargame, the main focus is war.

>You can play as every single nation in the world.
>but you need cheat/use a test/feature/the console to do so
Yeah and in San Andreas you could use a mod to have sex in game, that doens't make it a porno game. The game is clearly designed as a wargame.


>>166015197
You don't give a shit about making arguments either, probably because you don't have one. You just like throwing ad hominems around and making yourself look like a huge retard.
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>>166015243
>get btfo in an argument
>resort to the fallacy fallacy
Just stop.
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>>166014982
>>166014617
>>166014279
>>166013896
>>166013737

.t Paradox Internet Defence Force
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>>166015243
> You don't give a shit about making arguments either, probably because you don't have one. You just like throwing ad hominems around and making yourself look like a huge retard.

> Translation: "I don't know how to defend my point about PoN not being a grand strategy, so I will just call it a personal attack."

Cool story, bro.
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ITT : /gsg/ once again displays amazing level of autism and bitches back and forward about if the game is or is not grand strategy

Get a fucking grip you autists.
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Is EvW fun in its current state?
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>>166015298
>doesn't have an argument
>doesn't argue anything
>just insults, get butthurt and spout fallacies
>continues does so even without knowing what a "fallacy fallacy" is
>I win
Shit it's like I'm arguing with a teenager.

>>166015332
A strawman, at least you are varying a bit.
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Who /1365 mod/ here
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>>166015337
Depends, where can I find a working version?
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>>166015413
>>doesn't argue anything
>>just insults, get butthurt and spout fallacies
>>continues does so even without knowing what a "fallacy fallacy" is

1. I wasn't the one arguing with you.
2. Recognising some logical fallacies doesn't make you a master of argumentation.
3. See 2, I know perfectly well what a fallacy fallacy is, and it's exactly what you're doing.
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>>166015413
Just to be clear, I’m not a professional ‘quote maker’. I’m just an atheist teenager who greatly values his intelligence and scientific fact over any silly fiction book written 3,500 years ago. This being said, I am open to any and all criticism.

‘In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.’
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>>166015523
>1. I wasn't the one arguing with you.
Even worse, you are getting butthurt for OTHER people.
>2. Recognising some logical fallacies doesn't make you a master of argumentation.
Nice strawman.
No, it calls attention to the fact that the other person isn't arguing, it's just, well shitposting.

>3. See 2, I know perfectly well what a fallacy fallacy is, and it's exactly what you're doing.
No, a fallacy fallacy is arguing that a point is invalid because they used a fallacy. I'm arguing he has no point, because he didn't make one.
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>>166015602
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cannot wait for the new additions in monks and mystics lads
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>>166015602
>Nice strawman

I am firmly convinced this is a steamcordgruppe member trying to stir drama up now. How can someone be so bad at argumentation that his only argument is calling out logical fallacies (which are mostly in his head)
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>>166015761
>ignoring everything else
Yep, pretty sure you are a butthurt teenager.
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>>166015761
I think he might be going through his philosophy classes at college now and simply cannot resist the temptation of labeling everything with the things he learned.

Either that or he's from reddit.
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>>166015243
>You can play as every single nation in the world.
>but you need cheat/use a test/feature/the console to do so

That still doesn't change the fact that you can play as every nation.

>The game is clearly designed as a wargame.

No, it isn't. Otherwise there would be no trade/technology/economy features.
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Ya'll crackers be playn' them games or what?
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Pls respond:

I cheated some provinces to my culture and religion in EU4 because I didn't want too much of a headache when I converted to Vic2.

In Vic2 the regions render as the religion and culture they were before the cheating.

What can I do to make the converter generate my cheated cultures?
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>>166015918
>still saying crackas

Found the white boy
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> it's another "/gsg/ argues about which autism simulator involves more autism" episode

ah yes
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>>166015852
>I-I'm not t-the one w-who's butthurt, y-you are!

Paradrones say the darndest things.
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>>166015904
>That still doesn't change the fact that you can play as every nation.
Through modding. Modding essentially doesn't the change what the game is designed as. It's an optional change.

>Otherwise there would be no trade/technology/economy features.
A wargame can have that. The fact that everything else i's simplified in face of military, that it's a turn-based focused game and in a specific scenario pretty much proves it is one. Just like CK2 borrows RPG elements, AGEOD games commonly borrow other strategy elements for their wargames.
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>>166015952
Stop arguing about dumb shit and pls respond
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>>166015961
>white boy
I prefer Paleo-European Caveman, thank you.
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What does it matter to all of you salty cunts out there what people post here, so long as it's strategy related? You know, it'd be great if people actually posted games here as a change of pace from non-stop shitposting.

If you want Paradox then go to /r/paradoxplaza or the Paradox forums and join the rest of the shills there.
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>>166016072
>campaing lasting several decades
>scenario

You're really running out of ideas aren't you?

>A wargame can have that.

>A WARgame can have diplomacy, economy, colonisation, trade, technology

Sure thing senpai.
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>>166016279
>You're really running out of ideas aren't you?
Not an argument.

>>A WARgame can have diplomacy, economy, colonisation, trade, technology
It can, it's like you never played AGEOD games before.
Though the focus is war, so you have the extremely detailed warfare with simplified, mind numbing basically everything else like economy and technology.
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>>166016365
>It can, it's like you never played AGEOD games before

AGEOD games are grand strategy. They're even in the infopic you retard.
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>>166015952
>>166016110

It looks like changing culture does not register in a region's history which is what the converted accounts for

If any anon was also curious there's the answer


/gsg/ should stop being retarded and actually respond to questions like any general should.
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>>166016443
>AGEOD games are grand strategy.
Nope, they are wargames.
>Grand Strategy about a really specific scenario like the Russian Revolution and the Spanish Civil War.

>They're even in the infopic you retard.
Under "Misc, oddities and errata" together with other well established GS games such as Sengoku Rance and King of the Dragon Pass.
It's just a mention, even the image says it's a series focused on simulating war.
Because it is.
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>>166016449
> Expecting /gsg/ to be anything but autistic
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>>166016560
>well established GS games
>King of the Dragon Pass

How can King of the Dragon Pass be GS if you play only as one nation?
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>>166016661
>he can't understand sarcasm

Is it autism?
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This is the third time already, why is the US so fucking eager to nuke me?
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>>166016749
>I-I was only pretending to be retarded guys!
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>>166016560
>>Grand Strategy about a really specific scenario like the Russian Revolution and the Spanish Civil War

Under that definition then the HoI games would also classify as wargames, because they are a very specific scenario. What is completely baffling about your train of thought is that you can't comprehend the notion that games could fit in multiple genres.

>Under "Misc, oddities and errata" together with other well established GS games such as Sengoku Rance and King of the Dragon Pass

Every game in the infopic is a gsg unless specifically stated that it isn't, which doesn't happen for any of those.
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>>166016449
>>166015952

Now the better question is:

Do I change the region history in the EU4 files and reconvert, or do I edit the Vic2 files so that regions have their desired religion and culture?

pls

respond
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>>166011201
>>166010986
>>166011718
Why would you play 1.12? 1.07's where its at.
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>>166016787
>he literally can't understand the difference between sarcasm and pretending to be retarded
At least we know you are a legit retard.

>>166016812
>Under that definition then the HoI games would also classify as wargames,
Yes, the spanish civil war is a specific scenario just like a conflict in the global scale like WW2.

It's the same thing isn't?


>Every game in the infopic is a gsg
>he actually argues that KoDP and Sengoku Rance is GS
kek
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>>166016931
> I-I'm only pretending to be retarded...
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>>166016879
Doing a high literacy run
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>>166016958
wew lad, did the sarcasm break you and you are going full on autism mode?
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>>166016756
Well you are at war with them..
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>>166016931
>it's an R&I episode
Salty that your thread got deleted?
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>>166016931
Literally kill yourself.
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>>166016931
Not an argument.
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>>166016931
W&B
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>>166017041
>>166017053
>>166017054
>unstoppable string of (you)'s
>they can't stop responding
>you hint you are "R&I" and get even more (you)'s and butthurt
Too easy desu
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>>166013798
>>what is Pride of Nations
Literally unplayable piece of shit?
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>>166016878
Decided I'm just going to edit the Vic 2 files
BUT WHERE CAN I CHANGE THE NATIONALITY AND RELIGION OF A PROVINCE IN VICTORIA 2

R E S P O N D
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>>166017119
tR&I
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>>166017119
SBTW
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>>166017119
R&I really makes trolling the shitposters easy as fuck.
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>>166017119
>the only attention he'll ever get in this life is getting some (You)'s after being a butthurt little shit
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>>166017172
>>166017184
>>166017193
>>166017235


Keep going lads, I love R&I for how easy he made getting (you)'s here
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>this entire thread
Can all of you lads shut the fuck up and post relevant posts?
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>>166017235
SEETHING
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>>166017034
>nuking someone because you're at war with them
It's meant to be a last resort, not a fun weapon to use against someone that's neighbouring your allies.
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>>166010057
Yes it is
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>>166017165
WHERE IS THE VICTORIA 2 FOLDER WHERE I CAN CHANGE THE NATIONALITIES IN A CONVERTED SAVE
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>this thread

wow you sure are owning them troll boy!!!!! keep it up and 4chan will run out of server capacity to host more /gsg/ threads

*thinks to self* epic....
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>>166017369
Tell that to the Ai.

IIRC Poland was expected to be nuked to the ground if Cold War ever went hot.

>tfw Polish
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>>166017391
>a player nation
>complaining abut China being ridiculously overpowered as a player nation
>moreso when it's actually reasonable since you've been exploring and colonizing
I fail to see the issue, are you autistic?
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>literally troll the discordgrup convincing them I give a fuck about their wargames and that I'm the R&I
>the silence after the supreme butthurt
ahhhhh
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>>166017516
>Tell that to the Ai.
That's why you write the decision/event so that they only choose to nuke if they have super high warscore, have enemy troops on their own soil etc.
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>>166017495
S E E T H I N G
E
E
T
H
I
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>>166017456
Guess this is it
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>>166017763
hope you know your province ids, boy
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Results are out
93 (you)'s of pure butthurt before I got bored and did the grand finale
Thanks for playing
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>>166017834
That's not a problem. Converting the USA will be tricky but I'm pretty sure I can handle the rest
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>>166017553
steamcordplaza hates wargames though. You are the steamcordplaza Cobrah
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>>166017949
Nah, they love it. It's one of their members who was always here whining about War in the Pacific not being in the OP
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>>166017892
>he had to make a second post because nobody could give a shit about the first one
lol
sad cringe
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>>166018034
Except that's the opposite of true and WitX has been in the OP longer than steamcordplaza has been around which completely counters your argument. Now fuck off back to your dungeon Cobrah.
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>>166018035
95
Thanks lad
Gloating always squeeze the last amount of butthurt from people like you
I like to be through with my work
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>>166017763
get the fucking scenario editor, idiot
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>>166018182
ok
btw its "thorough" not "through"
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>>166018153
Nope, that's the truth, and he whined about a War in the Pacific in specific not being mentioned because it's his favorite game

>>166018243
>he even falls for the "baiting (you)'s through the small mistakes" technique
Nice, really nice

It's like taking candy from a baby
Don't forget to change your diapers little baby
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>>166018310
why are (you)s so important to you
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>>166018310
>continuing to spout falsehood
I wish you faggots would get fucking banned already. Should've been done fucking years ago.
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>>166018368
they show how butthurt you are about defending your pathetic games
the less player and more niche the game, the more butthurt about having it expelled from here they get

>>166018394
t. cobrah
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>>166018310
>Nope, that's the truth, and he whined about a War in the Pacific in specific not being mentioned because it's his favorite game
>being this new
Are you going to claim aurora was a Steamgruppe scheme
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>>166018457
defending what games?
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>>166018479
Did you get so butthurt you got amnesia?

>>166018463
t. the guy who did that
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Rate my GrobElysium
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>>166018532
i just noticed someone says something about (you) and thought it was a bit amusing that nobody was responding to your troll pwnage or whatever it was
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*farts*
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>>166018613
Then read the thread and thanks for the (you)
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>>166018583
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>>166018583
>>166018719
religion and culture mapmodes?
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>>166018752
k let me open the game again.
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>>166018237
>It doesn't work
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>>166017391
>>all of europe completely falls behind despite creating vast colonial empires
That's not a thing though.

You missed an important part.
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>>166017391
>Printing Press
>not created
epic
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>>166018752
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>>166019264
> EU4
> Expecting any competent game design or basic historical research
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>>166019368
This gif always makes me burst my sides
What the fuck was he trying to accomplish
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>>166019359
How many cheats did you use lad
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>>166019359
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>>166015519
http://eastvwestnews.proboards.com/thread/336/version-east-west-teodosius-final
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>>166019406
Here is an even better version
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>>166019460
>not having your own genocide mode that lets you kill heretics and inferior races as rebels instead of converting them
wew laddy
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>>166019504
Can one convert HoI3/4 to this?
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What are the most overall effective weapons in Distant Worlds? I read a few things and it seems like missiles, bombers and ion cannons are the best all-around weapons, and that rail guns become practically obsolete very quickly. Is that correct, or is there more to it than just that?
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>>166017938
Just use the command provid when in game my son
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>>166018885
the save game field is for loading an actual victoria 2 save file, the conversion is a mod.
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>>166018885
>Liquoria 2
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>>166020242
So am I supposed to enter a save of the converted game then?
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Why is my Spain so poor?
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>>166020440
It's not reddit to like v2 anon
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>>166020634
develop the gold mine, up to 8-9 should be fine
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>>166012648
Fenis Newydd
(New Venice)
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So how is /gsg/'s NWO working out?
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>>166020946
we're starting from scratch, so we are only brainstorming right now.
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>>166019709
Not sure desu
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>Have bought base game and pirated full game on computer
>Saving on pirated game sends save to the vanilla save folder
>Move save to the pirated "save games" folder
>Pic related
>Won't work
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>Crisis in Gambia!

>As a Great Power you are expected to take a side

You don't want to take a massive hit to your prestige, do you?
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>>166017630
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>>166021879
*waits for every GP to decide*
*picks the side with an overall bigger military score*
nothin personnel
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>>166022161
t. america
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>The absolute state of Germany
>Have the same tech level as some native Americans
Considering they were one of the top European powers at the start of the game, they've really declined the most.

>>166020884
Went with Pont Fawr, which was Google's suggestion for Great Bridge.
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>>166021879
CAN'T HAMMEH THE JAMMEH
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>>166022161
*teleports to rhineland*

Tch....

This pisses me off...

*unsheathes clipper factory*
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*Millitarily overpowers you*

Tch...

*Takes away Alsace-Lorraine*

Nothin personnel... kid
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Should I?
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>Didn't get the Empire of the Sun achievement in CK2 because Steam must have disconnected during my playthrough

Guess I'll do it the cheesy way via Abbasids instead of properly
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>>166021125
But will you use NWO as a base or not?
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>>166022240
Italy*. The U.S. waits until the war has drug on several years.
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>>166022527
there were thoughts of almost frankensteining parts of different mods, we are planning to rip and edit the UI in NWO.
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>>166021490

I finally discovered the issue: The clausewitz editor (should) only works with legit copies of the game.

So I either edit these the hard way tomorrow or give in and pls buy the DLC with money, which, seeing as this is vicky, wouldn't be that much of a waste.
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What´s the general location of Sardinia in EUIV? I want to form Italy the historycal way.
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>>166022764
Savoy + Sardinia is Sardinia Piedmont
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>>166022931
Ah. Means I have to grab them from Aragon. Thanks anon.
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>>166023159
Fuck off with that discord drama.
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>>166023284
>Can only recognize a broadsword.
The majority of them are german and or french, right?
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H-how do I download kaissereich if it's pirated
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>>166020634

Your trade income seems very miniscule to what it should be. You only have a 2% tax modifier so you're probably getting a debuff somewhere. If you're not trying to become the pope I'd use some of your popebucks to get that +15% tax income. Other than that, just build some temples and marketplaces on important trade provinces.
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Are custom pirate nations fun (eu4)?
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>sigurd got cucked in my game and lost his kingdom

What the fuck, I thought Sigurd would ALWAYS succeed in the game.
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>>166023470
H E L P
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>>166024412
Deadass, every time I play I get cucked and kekked by Grognar The Wizard who rapes my 3 year old son to death afterwards.
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Help. Every time I start a new game, I go to colonise NA and unite China as Date. It's make ERE great again in the East. How do I kick the habit for good?
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>>166024778
Damn you are a fucking loser.
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>>166025351
Jesus
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>>166025407
Unless you're using WM (in which case ha-ha), you should already have it.
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>>166025407
OOOXO
OOOOO
XXXXX
OOXOO
OXOOO
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>>166025407
>mobile
No need for that, phoneposting automatically confirms you're a normalfag.
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>>166025571
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>>165995763
>>165995261
alright laddo I'm back. I looked through the scenario list and Operation Typhoon looks good as it's a medium sized scenario and both sides attack and defend. Not sure how we would set up a game though, would a password be needed? Im on version 1.9.00 and not using the public beta
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>>166025506
Unless you lied in that bingo .. Literally HOW ?
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>>166025650
>taking a bath
what the fuck
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>>166025571
How do you intend to accomplish that? Just spam them or keep repeating memes at them? You've been doing that since before /leftypol/ even existed.
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>>166025650
> washing yourself
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>>166025760
You must be incredibly insecure if you don't even take baths because you see it as unmanly
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taking a shower
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>>166026001
>unmanly
It didn't even cross my mind that it had to do with manliness.
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>>166026223
what's wrong with baths?
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>>166026001
>phoneposting while taking a bath
But why
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>>166025721
I just always refused advances.
Had cute girls obsessing over me (the longest one was two years), asking to hook up with me, even stalkers, but still, always refused any advance.

Always been quite autistic, but a blue eyed cute autist.
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>>166026357
>>166026001
posting on /gsg/ while you're in the bath is the issue you retards
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>>166026357
its comfy
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>>166026414
>>166026357
>>166026289
who the fuck washes themselves
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>>166026392
I had a group of lolis obsessed with me when I was 18, it was a pain to get rid of them.
>tfw to smart too be a pedo
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>>166026596
really makes you think
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>>166026392
>autist

Its not autism, its terminal case of retardation.
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how do you collapse the Qing as, say, Japan

do you force a bunch of unequal treaties and then humiliate? or what

because i want to then tagswitch over to Nationalist China
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>>166026691
Or as I like to call it, natural selection.
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>>166026698
The Qing needs to be westernized for the Warlord Era to start.
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>>166026698
Is Qing westernised?
Is it past 1890?
does Qing have less than 100 prestige?
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>posting games on /gsg/
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>>166026934
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>>166026934
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Good thread
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>>166026934
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>>166026867
>>166026891
>>166026698
I think it only needs ~75% westernization progress, plus less 100 prestige to trigger the warlord era
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My game in 867 vs vanilla 867, respectively.

What the fuck went wrong?
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>>165999813
look my dude, PDM is complete garbo, stop defending it. Just port DoD
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>>166003274
>hitler could have just declared war on everyone in 1936 and no one inside germany would have said anything
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>>166025506
>>166025721
Same as him desu, but in my case I have too high standards. I've had plain janes and chubby girls after me (one even wanted to cuck her boyfriend) but refused them all and always aimed for high maintenance Stacies.
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>>166027457
delete system 32
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>>166025858
Give them the bui treatment /furry/ got
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>>166028121
> the bui treatment
Eh?
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We're continuing Sim's game 19:00 GMT tomorrow, right?
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>>166028218
Fuck off bui everybody knows about you now
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>>166028429
wtf sim is doing a new game?
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>>166028481
I've never participated in internet fights, so don't even start. What happened?
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>>166028429
>19:00 GMT tomorrow
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>Italy and France are now Theocracies
ebin
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Pleb here, why is it so much harder to play a tiny 1-province nation in EU4 than it is in CK2?
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CANT WAKE UP
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>>166029183
Because in CK2 you can play the family game and claims are a lot harder to get because it's not the 1400s.
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>>166028829
what's the ideology of your party, i don't play NWO
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>>166029373
nationalist
It's the Deutsche Volksunion, a they're part of the NDP now
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>>166029346
In CK2 you're also not bleeding gold by doing literally anything, in EU4 I feel like starting as a tiny nation revolves around struggling to break even on your treasury for the first 50 years or so.
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>>165983073
DUDE JUST ADD IN MORE ABSTRACTION LOL
t. podshit
t. wiz
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>/gsg/ takes baths
>/gsg/ wads instead of folding

You are -real- autists, aren't you?
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>>166030278
Good post
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>>166030352
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>>166030473
W&B
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>>166027457
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>>166028829
why the hell does this mod have so atrocitious ui
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>>166031701
simsulla (the mod author) is an autistic genius
He's done a shitton of good work but has made a bunch of retarded and baffling decisions in his mod
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>>166031701
because it's half-assed. If it was done wholly it wouldn't be so bad but he only changed a couple of the UI files so half of them still look like vanilla. And he doesn't adjust or fit text properly so it looks like ass
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Why the fuck aren't these slav(e)s surrendering?
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So to the anon who called that our Romaboo and Wehraboo would fight over Eastern Colonial America, you were right.

They've been at it for 53 years, we've been able to colonize most of Africa and a good chunk of South America because of it. I think our Wehraboo is about to tap out though because we'd noticed a South American HRE colony before we called it a night.
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>>166032390
they still have like 80% of their nation tovarisch
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>>166032390
>no transylvania
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>>166032727
DELETE THIS NOW

>>166032575
But how?
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>>166032847
isn't there an event for the vienna award thingie?
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>Simsulla will create a HoI > NWO converter at some point

>Megacampaigns stretching beyond the modern day will become a possibility
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>>165983073
>https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

ck2 music mod link doesnt work
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Is it possible to keep a colonial empire and/or remain a superpower in NWO as a western nation?
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>>166033078
>I'll be able to breed oriental women into the future
based simsulla
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>>166033078
Mine already do.

CK2 > EU4 > Vic2 > HoI3 > DEFCON (yes, a converter exists) > CK2 After the End.
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>>166033318
screenshots please
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>>166033264
Sure, just take infamy/prestige hits by refusing to grant independence to your colonies and then don't lost them in crises.
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>>166033306
can you add an event for BLACKing german women please

asking for a friend
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>>166033456
Is it possible to mititgate demographic decline or is it just inevitable?
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>>166033518
It is inevitable, best you can do is to have a moralist party, ban contraception and have the appropriate level of healthcare.
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>>166033510
>having friends

>>>/out/
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>>166033450
Of what, the DEFCON converter? Because I don't really take screencaps in my games.

But here's the converter if you want it; https://github.com/PTSnoop/Hoi3toDefconConverter/releases/download/v1.0/Hoi3ToDefcon_1_0.zip
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>>166033613
So, assuming I'm importing a large absolutist Großcoloniums from HoI to NWO will I be able to remain absolutist and colonial even with a bit of cheating?

And which is more conservative - populism or traditionalism?
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NWO or EvW beta?
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>>166033873
Fuck if I know, I don't play HOI
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>>166033249
OP didn't update the link.

https://mega.nz/#!PQgxyACD!bpcXXoWI3Pfu_PJ1_sz5D7wKYO2OStEWr_npgpw0B_w
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>>166033826
>https://github.com/PTSnoop/Hoi3toDefconConverter/releases/download/v1.0/Hoi3ToDefcon_1_0.zip
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Anyone else play WitW? I know we have a few WitP and WitE players, but I think I'm the only WitW
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>>166034234
>a github download i.e. something you can literally go through the source for
ebin
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>>166034234
Shit you're dumb. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi3-to-defcon-converter.906861/
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Who /hypfor1323yearturbocampaign/ here
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>>166035213
Hopefully, it will bring MCG or MCL back
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>>166034234
> he doesn't know github
It's like one of the single most important inventions of the 21st century
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>>166035872
Bad news lad, they're never coming back
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What are some comfy countries to play in EU4?
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>>165990620
I feel the exact same way, I even made a list

No population mechanics
No urbanization mechanics
No culture melting mechanics
No legitimacy mechanic ( GOT mod has it for fucks sake )
No resources/farming mechanics
No dogma mechanics ( general opinions and psyche of populations )
No economic/trading system
No class system(s)
No way to quantify soilder effectiveness (experience, equiptment, training etc) (Population, resources, and class system would solve this )
No cadet dynasties.
No depth or flavor in crusades
No naval combat
No subholdings ( small cities, towns, villages, farming communities )
4/5ths of European cultures are missing ( no subculture/culture families )
Horrible graphics
Total lack of flavour events
Very shallow realm laws
Too few provences/Fucking India
Tottally inacurate Castle/levy system
Lack of military depth eg. non-personal retinues
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>>166035872
Literally who?
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>>166032390
Are you stupid? Look at the national unity and do the math.
Captcha:Gurkha
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Playing Venice. Are there any opening moves I should make if I plan on forming Italy and expand primarily into europe first? Planning on forming the Roman Empire later. But I´d like to ignore the stuff near the Ottomans first and focus on the italian peninsula.
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Where can I find hoi3 guides?
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>>166029285
step it up, nerd
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>>166036209
wew
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>/gsg/ hates EU4 and CK2 but plays them the most

Really caramelizes my onions
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>>166036428
It's really just steamcordplaza. They will shit on literally anything that isn't vicky or DH.
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>>166036428
We constantly bitch about them because we love them and want them to be better. Protest is the sincerest form of patriotism.
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HoI4 to NWO converter when???????
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>>166036607
Fuck off
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>>166036737
excellent argument my friend
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Is it mandatory to colonize Africa, especially if you're a smaller nation, if you don't care all that much about minmaxing and being a great power?
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How did this happen?

What do?
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What's the best rifle for playing aggressive scout.
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Is there a mod that makes HoI4 not boring ?
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>>166036897
join it and take denmark
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>>166036868
>le not an argument xd
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>>166036897
This >>166037070 but give it to a nephew or cousin of yours and tag to them.
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>>166037070
But why, why do I want it, and why did it declare war on it.

Although the HRE is also some muslim tribute state


So anti gross germaniums
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>>166036930
1895, also wrong general, friendo :^)

>>166036483
>>166036428
MemeSupreme and his autists mostly play Stellaris and HoI4 in mp, if you believe it. The thread shitting is mostly steamgroup and r/paradoxplaza.
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>>166037000
please help. I wanted to play as Japan, drew a big arrow and captured China. Then I drew a big arrow to Moscow and won.
Is there a mod that makes the game interesting ?
Have a rare Jake for your trouble.
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>>166033510
I love seeing black anglo and paki pops in germany
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Fuuuuck! My ALLY TOOK IT!
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>>166033017
For some reason it didn't trigger. And I'm playing straight vanilla.
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>>166037579

>Babby can't handle Conclave mechanics

Kek
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This is now a commie general R&I and his bourgeoisie jannies must be killed
>>
We're low on liquor memes right now

post Vicky screens
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>>166038898
Why are muslims so dominant in this game?
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>>166039053
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>>166039168
>only 68%
>>
So I wanna play some vicky2 and do lots of colonial dicking around

who pick?

Spain any fun?
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>>166039651
>Spain any fun?
Yes, but only if you know how to control rebels
Restoring the Spanish empire, especially as the Carlists, is great
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>>166039651
Geledi-->Somaliland
Make Africa Great Again lad
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>>166039651
France best colonial nation
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>>166037604
>>166037000
same question.
>>
Asking again because I have yet to get an answer, are there any GSGs for mobile devices?

Or maybe a strategy game with resource/province/population management that's worth playing?
>>
>>166039729
>Yes, but only if you know how to control rebels

Hm. Rebels have never been fun to manage, but could be fun.

>>166039987

I am afraid the negro man must serve.

>>166040092

France seems a bit too strong to have fun with.
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>>166040357
>too strong
That's the point m8, take all of Canada then release a giant Quebec.
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What the fuck? Last time I checked the Japs were doing fine.
Welp, it looks like this war with Russia needs to end ASAP if we're going to win this.

Italy has a shit ton of troops around a completely surrounded Moscow, idk why they just don't attack.
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Truly a jewel
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>>166040357
>I am afraid the Negro man must serve
>he only autisticly rps as whites
Disgusting desu
>>
WHY DID THE WRONG SIDE WIN BOTH WARS??????????
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what a retarded fucking mod
the guy who did it should seriously kill himself
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>>166036889
Anyone? Or does everyone just colonize Nigeria, South Africa, and Warri in every game?
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>>166041115
>playing 1.12
But yeah NWO is a fucking mess
>>
>>166041181
Take as much as you can is good for a small pop nation imo
>>
I'm playing as one of the anglo-saxon tribes in extended timeline mod for EU4


Will there be an event to convert to christianity or will I have to blob into france and get rebels?
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>>166036889
>>166041181
>Is it mandatory to colonize Africa
No not at all you autist why would it be
The only good ways to play is either Aesthetic and sensible blobbing, or comfy non-blobbing
Pic related is blobbing aethetically, not for optimal colonies
>>
What's the "Wend" pop in Germany meant to be, I tried looking it up but I can't find anything
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I want to try playing a trade nation, what country should I choose? And anything I should know about trade?
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>>166041381
COMFY
O
M
F
Y
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>>166041381
I usually do the former but wanted to try the latter and wasn't sure if I'd drop drastically in rank and have shitty industry and then it wouldn't be as comfy as I'd hoped
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Is there a country in Victoria 2 HPM that deviates from the standard formula of
>European colonial nations grab as many colonies as they can
>New World nations sit on their ass and receive immigrants
>Uncivilized nations blob and get research points
preferably through a lot of unique events and decisions.
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>>166041709
Venice

more money less problems
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>>166041661
You're American, right?
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>>166041903
No
>>
>>166041903
I am a native European from America.
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>>166041903
Yes
>>
>>166041903
no, canadian
>>
>>166041903
No, Zimbabwean
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>>166041903
I'm actually female
>>
>>166041903
>>166042013
>>166042037
>>166042089
>>166042140
>>166042276

quality posts courtesy of /gsg/
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>>166041886
Prussia
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>>166041903
I hate kikes
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>>166042381
r u singl?
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>>166042415
>implying

It's easy as hell to get colonies as Prussia
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Look at this niggers name, can he even remember it without keeping a note.
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>>166042518
>>166041886
unironically KuK, you usually dont colonise and it takes some skill, considering you start as a glass cannon.

>>166042693
holy shit thats funny, lmao
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Wat.

I'm not even Riyhadid, I'm andalusia
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>>166041886
Why don't you just take a country and play it any way you want
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>>166042807
>it takes some skill

No it doesn't

>play Prussia
>btfo of Austria and form GrossGermanium
>use adriatic ports to take territory in North Africa
>colonise
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>>166042991
>Prussia
>when I said KuK
>what is reading comprehension
>>
>>166042991
are you illiterate?
>>
>>166043076
why did you reply to me then you nogger
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>>166042406
Yours is even better.
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>>166043253
at least I'm not a jew
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Any advice on forming Gran Colombia in Vic 2?
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>>166043150
>ask question
>receive answer
>WOW WTF Y DID U ANSWR ME???

Why are you even here
>>
>>166043394
I wasn't the one who asked the question, what are you on about
>>
>>166043376
do early wars to puppet ecuador and venezuala
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>>166042415
Sounds like a snoozefest

>>166042807

What do you even do as KuK?

>>166042902
It's not fun if the game doesn't facilitate it in some way.

>>166043394
He's not me.
>>
>>166043498
>hehe u cant prove i wiz anannymoose!! :DD

Why are you even here
>>
>>166043376
Puppet Ecuador and Venezuela early. taking Ecuador should be easy, make sure to build ART and HUS and attack their armies with mobilized troupes since you run out of pops easily. Venezuela is a little harder since they can have a decent standing army and mobilization, take out their army first and occupy them (which might take a while since by then you won't have much of an army).

After that prestige spam so you have at least 50 by the time you can take the Gran Colombia decision
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>>166043560
Any techs to rush?
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>>166043691
Wtf are you on about you autist?>>166043670
He's not me
>>
>>166043796
>this level of autism

You must be elated we have no janitors
>>
I unironically enjoy EU4 over Liqouria 2
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>>166043670
>What do you even do as KuK?
Have people fuck your wife
>>
>>166043735
>troupes
kms
>>
>>166043915
Wtf are you on about you autist?>>166043670
He's not me
>>
>>166043796
I can confirm that I am not him.
>>
>>166043691
I posted this >>166042518

in response to >>166042415

which I assume was your reply to >>166041886

Which was posted by some other anon you dense fuck
>>
>>166043851
What are you saying?
>>166043796
He's not me retard
>>
>>166044005
Wtf are you on about you autist?>>166043735
He's not me
>>
>>166044005
I believe this confusing stems from >>166042807 quoting >>166042518
>>
>>166044081
Can confirm I'm not him
>>
>>166043969
I can confirm that this is not me
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>>166044129
exactly, now can we end this retarded circlejerk
>>
>>166043670
>What do you even do as KuK?
tons of events dude, you can either go Danube, or German superiority, plus if you do go Danube, those accepted cultures are ripe for a little bit of blobbing
>>
>>166044129
Shit I meant to say >>166043150
>>
>>166043376
>>166043735
also if you don't know, Colombia gets a gold province pretty early that makes things a lot easier and gives an immigration bonus
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We did it Reddit!

Now time to defeat the Allies.

Any advice? I have no navy so I can't help with sealion...

The most I can do is send troops across Russia to help liberate Japan but I don't have access.
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superpower by 2020
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>>166044517
>borders
What the fuck
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>>166044650
>Peoples Republic
>Means of Production not seized
NOT
COMMUNISM
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>>166044517
Focus on getting ireland to join your side. If you can then your allies with navies can just dock up there and march over.
>>
New Thread
>>166045021
>>166045021
>>166045021
>>166045021
>>
>People getting triggered when I say Prussia instead of KuK
>>
Should I encourage intellectuals in colonies?
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>>166045097
>6 memes too early
Could you fucking not?
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>>166013776
It's Provencal trade power, you are using boats to gain trade power.
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>>166045141
KuK
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>>166045097
>5 grandis too early
Who cares if you get first reply you autist
>>
>>166045423
He did it so he could autist the OP image again even though he got BTFO for trying to do it not even a day ago
>>
In EU4 Extended Timeline, what are some fun states to start as/goals?

>inb4 uninstall.exe etc.
I'm asking those 3 people who actually enjoy EU4 even if it's simplistic as fuck.

well, 2, since I'm one of them
>>
>166045097
If we ignore it, will it go away?
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>>166046312
Hopefully
>>
>>166046312
Unfortunately no for some reason people decide to migrate over there including this autist>>166045721 uninstall.exe
No one cares about eu4 was unironically going to give you a serious reply until I saw your in the early thread
>>
New, proper pic thread

>>166046705

>>166046705

>>166046705
>>
>r&I deletes another good thread
epic
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>>166048301
I have a pic of him
>>
>when one of the great powers of your ck2 run collapses in eu4
I'm not sure whether to feel a sense of sadness over watching a prestigious dynasty gutter out after 800 years or laugh that it got clusterfucked by fucking Timbuktu.
>>
New
Using proper OP Pic
>>166048281
>>166048281
>>166048281
>>
woah
>>
That's what you get. That's what you motherheckers get for hecking with me.

Lesson learned. Don't. Heck. With. Me.
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>CK2
>Playing as Bulgaria
>Byzantine empire to the south and east
>Al-Jazira somehow ended up north of me
>Serbs and croatians to the west
>Can't go south, cause I'll get my shit pushed in
>Can't go north, cause it takes 20 years to conquer anything
>Can't go west, because I have no excuse
>"What would my ancestors have done?"
>Convert to christianity just so I have an excuse to attack pagans
>Al-Jazira's fw
>They attack me with everything they've got
>Barely fight them off
>Al-Jazira suddenly has a revolt
>No armies to fight it with
>Loses all european lands to revolt
>Asian lands get fucked in the ass by Byzantines
>Accidentally destroyed second biggest empire on the planet
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So, the European AI didn't seem interested in North America for the most part and I've managed to blob successfully. The next question is whether to create two small colonial nations in California and Mexico or to take the inland territories in Eastern Africa?

>>166046481
I'll just keep using this one until it dies anyway.
>>
>>166051583
Picture? Was Al-Jazira or Byzantine the second biggest empire?
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>>166052157
Who on earth owns Oregon and Mexico?
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>>166052717
Pic related for the northwest while Zoroastrian Rashtrakutas own Mexico and the rest of California.
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>>166052925
>>166052717
I've no idea how the Indians, Byzantium and Saffarids are still allied.
>>
>>166052925
>>166053105
>Zoroastrian Mexico
Unironically based
>Chink Canada
Sasuga

Is this a CK2 conversion?
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>>166053221
Yeah, Old Gods start. This is what it looked like before starting the EU4 playthrough.
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>>166053418
Just realised that Pomerania went from owning Sweden, to being nearly consumed by Germany to now owning most of Scandinavia.
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>>166052401
The areas in red used to be parts of Al-Jazira. The Byzantine empire was the biggest and strongest, but now that I look at this map, I think Al-Jazira may have actually been bigger.

They got torn apart pretty quickly.
>>
>>166053765
Good work saving Europe from sneaky Arabs. Did you convert to Catholic or Orthodox?
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>>166020634
>SUS

post map
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>>166053598
wew
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>>166054006
First, the Byzantines forced me to become an iconoclast, which is a type of heresy. I wanted to go back to a non-heretical version, but before I could do that I got the option to switch to catholic, because of some random courtier, so I did.

Currently in the process of converting the provinces, so they stop revolting every 5 minutes.
>>
I have EUIV and CK2. I've played a bit of the tutorials (both were buggy). But I've played a fair bit of EUIII.
do I disable all the DLC for my first game or can I just leave it enabled?
>>
>>166055081
For CK2, turn off Conclave and Sunset Invasion.

For EU4, leave it all on.
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>>166041661
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wends
google you subhuman
>>
uwu
>>
>>166059236
Retard
>>
anime
>>
uwu uwu
>>
Is it even possible to get a high enough Dutch population to do any meaningful colonization?

Even taking south africa for the boer pops isn't much
>>
>>166060754
It's difficult desu
The rate of colonial migration is also way below historical rates for every country in V2
>>
>>166059583
no u uwu
>>
>>166060994
Well, noticed the new NF for colonies in the latest version of HPM and thought it might be worth dicking around with.

But of course, with low pops there will be few enough NF to even use. Managing to get enough pops into some smaller colonies and making states of them would kickstart some assimilation I suppose, but I doubt that it'd be much of an impact.
>>
ded thred
>>
>>166061379
I've managed to turn the western part of the US japanese but only after giving myself the homestead act modifier. It's kind of shitty, I should be able to force or encourage my native pops to colonize sparesly populated lands with good RGOs.
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>>166053418
>Germany then
>Germany now
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France has a ridiculously large army but they're also taking on maybe a third of the world.

>Just like history
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>-40% research points modifier.

is this not even worth taking outside of avoiding my ass beating by the ottomans?
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>>166069350
>playing a meme mod
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>>166069946

>shitposting on 4chan

come on now
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>>166070050
nice try alex
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>>166069946
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oy
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so

Is a low industry colonial power focusing on cash crops viable? Best choice?
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>>166074638
>low industry colonial power focusing on cash crops viable?
yes but you'll have no industry score
>Best choice?
Possibly Spain for colonization potential
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>>166074923
>yes but you'll have no industry score

well i mean yea

Spain always sounds fun, but fuck me those rebel events are annoying as shit. Wish there was a way to end them sooner.

Italy would seem a fun choice considering their industrial potential is already rather weak. Wish Papal Italy had more content for that matter.
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Goodnight, good thread.
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>>166077243
Retard.
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>>166077398
Good morning, Aussie.
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Does supporting the Egyptians as France westernize them? I forget
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also

conquer haiti y/n?
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