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Pagoda Edition.

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WARHAMMER AUTISTS MUST DIE
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It's just you and me brudder
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Reminder
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>>165965279
Should I go back to my VC campaign? I got bored of CONSTANTLY putting down rebellions. I mean I get not wanting to be under the rule of vamps, but still.
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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.
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>>165965589
Do you want to?
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>>165965672
I am not sure how that is relevant.
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This mod is pretty bad desu
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>165966082
I wanted to try it. Care to explain what sucks about it?
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>>165966082
fucking lol

people need to stop downloading easymode overhauls
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This mod is pretty comfy desu.
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Is Fall of the Eagles good?
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>>165966187
oh idk, the fact that his 1 (ONE) stack has a 95% victory chance over 4 defending stacks?
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>>165966187
Apart from being a retardfest campaign map, the spartan faction doesn't get access to the spartan units outside those it starts with; none of the buildings provide them
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Rock the boat!
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>>165966067
It's as relevant as any answer will be.
The fuck do you mean "should I"?
How do we fucking know?
Maybe you should kill yourself. Would you take that advice?

Ask a question that people can actually have some way of answering other than literally saying nothing, like I did.

>I'm having difficulty staying motivated in my VC campaign due to rebellions. Is there anything to look forward to in the late game that I might have missed? Any interesting VC army compositions to try out?

Anything with more depth than
>SHOULD I?

Should I get a glass of water or sit on my ass and read another chapter before getting another glass of water?
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>>165966434
You should get the glass of water first. Should I kill myself?
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>>165966547
I did my man, great minds think alike.
Your call.
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Would yu be okay with Total War adding more Grand Strategy/CK2 like features such as more random events? Long standing Province modifiers from Wars, Raiding, Events, and Trade? Culture-specific Events? Naming of faction members?

>y/n?
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>>165966082
>AI Spearmen spam
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>>165966927
2 things.
1) ISIS?
2) Yes.
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>>165966927
If the feature is fun, then yes.

A "advanced" feature that is not fun is E.G Rome 2 politics

Attila family management is kinda in the same boat. It's not annoying, but it doesn't really add anything. The shogun 2 family tree was good enough.
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>>165966927
God yes. The more i can personalize my empire the better.
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>>165966927
Meanwhile, on Reddit...
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/2pr8k5/help_my_sister_keeps_on_turning_me_down/
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Anyone familiar with modding Med2 know how to help me?
>inb4 Med2
I'm enjoying the most stable Pike and Shotte mod, removing Sweden and holding all of Scandinavia, then the AI just shits this out once I take their last city
Anyone know what kind of code I should be looking for/what file I should be looking at so I don't get 28 full stacks shit upon my face?
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>>165968016
I didn't mention that it was named the 1648 -- Der dreissigjährige Krieg Mod
It's not the best, but it's stable and gets my pike fetish going
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>>165968016
I know the warhammer mod had a custom document with all the horde scripts. You just have to look around.
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Reminder that Games Workshop nuked the Warhammer setting, with it's rich and extensive lore, to create a new one where:

>Nagash thinks Mannfred is his greatest servant
>Malekith is a hermaphroditic dragon
>Sigmar is fucking half of Slaanesh's sundered soul
>Dwarves are getting high on the golden remnants of their god
>Archaon's plot armor is even thicker
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I know why the Orcs are so boring to play now. Listen to their units voice lines. They sound fucking bored and like they don't want to be there. Listen to Empire or Dwarfs, the voice acting is fucking superb.
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>>165968340
Play as gobbos. They have great lines.
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>>165965238

Warhammer infuriates me so much

> Stupid chaos, varg and skaeling calling me "asinine mortal" and "your demise is certain" 200 hundred times a day makes me ultra furious
> Retarded chaos, varg shitskins (shitsking in the north? wtf), and sgaylings running around like faggots
> Battle is stupid marauders and faggy dogs in the flanks waiting to fuck my immobile empire formation if my steam tanks are not able to take them out on time they meet my line
> Warhammer lore is so freaking stupid. I bought the game expecting a warhammer 40k but this game is really all about Rome 1 barbarian invasion where stupid nomad people fucks up battles and campaign map where you chase like a faggy asshole 200 turns while they raze and pillage your cities
> There's more: How come varg and sgayling are all jocks with huge thighs and muscles while the normal humans are skinny and weak? Are the women in the north fat spartans that gave birth to huge ass babies? Or they made a pact with chaos so they could be roided up without going to the gym?


I'm winning with the empire while raizing all of these asshole nomad shitskin fags and going to desinstall this piece of shit game full of chasing and retarded corruption everywhere making you camp every ONE turn so you are dont lose your whole stack.

Going to buy shogun 2 and be happy with a decent game.
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>>165968239
>>Sigmar is fucking half of Slaanesh's sundered soul

That's kinda hot.
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>>165965051
hahaha le pagoda, i can't stop laughing hahahaha oh my god hahahaha this is hahahaha PRIME MEME (Y)
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>>165968505
Kek, this is pretty good
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>>165966927
No to all. Total war has never tried to be a spreadsheet simulator borefest. It's about the battles and the campaign map is simply there to facilitate that. Don't overcomplicate things.
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>>165968505
>gosh why are those vikings so big and strong? What could they possibly be doing with their time?
I don't know anon, it's almost as if they live in a harsh place full of monsters and in a constant state of fighting.
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>>165965667
So when will I get the free shield?
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>>165969253
It's not a physical shield, you dumbass peasant.
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>>165969143
Having more faction leader dilemmas(kinda like CK2) would be fun though. It's all about making these advanced campaign features fun and not making them take up all your time. You wanna do battles after all.


>>165969342
Pretty sure I read somewhere that the knights take that rule literally and give their men at arms free shitty shields. The men at arms have to pay for the rest.
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YOU FUCKING CUNT STONEMASON WHORESON
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Stop posting Warhammer.
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>>165969253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS_1bzaj2fw
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>>165969143
>grand strategy is overcomplicating things
Scrub
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>>165969667
I kinda hope one of the bretonnian quest battles is about defeating a peasant rebellion. The LL speech would mention that rebel leader is a madman going on about anarcho-syndicalism or whatever.

Too silly I guess.
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>>165969660
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>>165968340
I just feel like something is missing from the Greenskin campaign. Grimgor is a fun lord, but something about fighting all the time in the Badlands just isn't that interesting.

>>165968239
Games Workshop is a very strangely run company. It's almost like they don't want to be known for anything besides the miniatures. Why didn't they get anybody to make a Warhammer Fantasy computer RPG? Or even 40k. Warhammer Fantasy is way more interesting than D&D universe, which got literal dozens of quality games.
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>>165969660

TROLLS
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>>165968340
Correction: Orcs sound bored. Goblins sound like they're having fun.
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>>165968505
> Warhammer lore is so freaking stupid. I bought the game expecting a warhammer 40k but this game is really all about

this is your fault for being stupid though. which also applies to the rest of your autistic complaints
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>>165970774
It's just a joke that can be used as a pasta.
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That's right, you knife-eared piece of shit, I fucked yo girl.

Whatcha gonna do about it?
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>>165968239
>Reminder that Games Workshop nuked the Warhammer setting
Coming to 40k soon too!
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>>165971021
Hammer and anvil.
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Total War!
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>>165971021
You do well to knell before me and ask for forgiveness.
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>>165970301
Yeah I'd kill for an alt start for Orcs that isn't the badlands OR GOBBOS
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>>165971730
Having a Orc horde faction(that can settle) would be neat. Starting in Kislev or whatever.
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AYO HOL UP

SO U BE FINNA BE SAYIN WE WUZ NECROMANCER AN SHIET
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>>165971403
I think he's already on his knees, Althenior!
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does anyone know if there's a total war game where i can spam nothing but spear levies and completely ineffectual missile units till i've brought my economy to the brink of collapse then have a battle that lasts less than 5 minutes where i lose thousands of men that i don't care about to take a single province that i can then then spend the next 15-20 turns/hours building up to offset negative modifiers like squalor and public order?
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>>165972093
Maybe if they changed hordes so that you could temporarily separate your army from the buildings to attack things
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>>165972358
Radious.
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>>165971021
Shove you when you aren't expecting it and then briskly jog away
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>>165972358
Total War Arena.
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>>165971297
Total War!
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>>165972816
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>>165972816
Total War!
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>>165973387
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Was Wellington a better general than Napoopan?
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>>165972358
Spartan: Total Warrior
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>>165972816
>FOR THE ICE QUEEN
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>>165973569
Who would win?
Philip of Macedon or Rommel?
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>>165973569
no

>>165975948
Phillip
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>>165975948
Rommel because he has tanks and guns lmao
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It's about to get crazy boys, wish me luck
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>>165976868
why do you have half stacks instead of full stacks?
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>>165977056
They are full stacks, but most of the units are injured.

Theirs no time to retreat. Forward, only forward
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>>165977412
shit gl
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Can you convert religions in AoC?
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>>165977843
Technically yes, but only if you're playing Westphallia and only during an event.
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Got the same lad twice.
Poor little Shaggoth boy.
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>>165973387
Kislev; where even the bears have fetal alcohol syndrome.
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>>165978647
WHOOPS
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Never played anything warhammer
What's the lore around humans like? Iv been treating it like they are ye old Nazis cleaning the world of green and brown scum and naming cities after Nazi leaders and similar
Is this warhammer related to 40k ?
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>>165979316
Look up "Holy Roman Empire" and then come back.
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>>165969143
Attila's campaign was pretty fun, but once you figured it out it wasn't all that complex.

Warhammers campaign is way to simple, but the battles make up for it.

And in the end its the battles that bring me to total war.
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>>165979316
Very wrong impression of fantasy.
There are a lot of parallels between the two but they manage to be fairly different.

Main human faction is just plain old HRE. They might have some leaders that would want to purge all other races but they're stuck busy getting attacked from all sides and internally forever.

Norscans are your typical cowardly worthless vikings. But some of them grows some courage and wanders up into the Chaos Wastes to become a not-Chaos Space Marine.
Chaos is filled out with warm bodies by the not mongols.

Russia-Poland is the same nation and serve as being the early warning system for the Empire, they have somebody on lookout to listen for the screams of the Tsarina as she gets gangbanged by Chaos.

Bretonnia is Arthurian Legend in a farce of feudal france. They don't get up to much as a united nation, sometimes they Crusade but it's more individual lords leading individual quests.

Those are the main(actually have army books) three.

A bit further south you have not-Italy, not-Spain and not-miscellaneous southern Europeans. And further south still you have not-Arabians.
None of these do anything too interesting.
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>>165979316
Empire: HRE, strongest human faction and for the most part the good guys, gets caught up in shady politics and can suffer from weak leaders

Brets: French knights mixed with British plebs and Arthurian legend-based religion

Kislev: Russian empire, polish commonwealth mixed constantly getting trashed by chaos

Estallia: conquistadors with no real writing to them, not Spain at all

Tileans: main source of mercenaries and bankers, totally not based on Renaissance Italy

Border Princes: A bunch of rouges and refugees who had to leave better nations

No one else is really worth anything
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>>165979316

>it's german sounding so must be nazi
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>>165980108
Probably saw Heinrich Kemmler namedropped or something without context.
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>>165969143
Kys warhammer child
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>>165979613
They last 5 minutes and I hate how they removed formations, I also despise what they did with sieges so I'm not impressed rsally
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>>165979879
>But some of them grows some courage and wanders up into the Chaos Wastes to become a not-Chaos Space Marine.
So it's on the same timeline as 40k?
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>>165980956
>>>/gsg/
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>>165980956
He's got a point though. Older games didn't really have too much to manage on the map Empire/Napoopan, S2, R2, R1, M2 really don't have that much going on and the learning curve doesn't offer you much once you get past it.

Atilla had corruption and squalor which were just player fuck-you's and the family tree was just hot garbage when in S2 it worked fine without all the needless save-scum worthy action spamming.

Then when it came to the battles they were such a balance joke with bland everything that everyone went back to R2 and Attila failed.
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>>165980108
It's all semantics. It's germans that are inherently evil no matter what name you decide you brand them with. Was it nazis that started ww1? The root of all the world's problems is german.
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>>165981361
They last a bit longer than that, and it isn't too bad. Quicker than Shogun 2 and Shogun 2 is still great.

I also don't mind the sieges much. But that's more of the fact that I just have hated playing sieges because autoresolve is so much better. With broken autoresolve I don't care for siege battles. So I simply don't see the awful WH siege battles.
The only siege battles I've liked were S2. Though Attila's looked and functioned spectacularly, autoresolve was still the way to go to avoid an additional 25% casualties minimum from the machine gun towers.

Not the lad you're talking to by the way.

>>165981582
It's specifically out of time. Their parallels match up with races and references and shit, but whether or not the planet is in the 40k setting or not is left ambiguous.

What I'm describing with the Warriors of Chaos in Fantasy is that there are two gates the to warp at the north and south poles of the world. The winds of magic blow out of these. And some lads go up north(south is pretty unviable), obtain the blessings of their gods and come back south pretty much sewn into heavy armor to fuck with normies.
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>>165981964
Confirmed.
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>>165982157
What does Queen Fluttershy the Taoist Bear represent here?
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>>165982545
Slavic nationalism.
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>>165982157
>illegal german empire oppresses ethnic population
>freedom fighter kills the head of the snake
>germans use it as an excuse to declare war on the world
>I-IT'S THE HUNGARIANS WHO ARE AT FAULT!
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>>165982769
Yeah I got the bear aiming the shot.
But explain the bear's additional features.
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>>165983029
The crown perhaps representing Kosovo and the wings representing the Orthodox church?

No clue what's up with the purple hair and Taoist symbol
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>>165982157
Why would a bear want Mario dead? I thought he fought turtles...
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>>165982829
As awful as the Germans are, oppressing Slavic nations is merely animal abuse.
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>>165983568
ANIMAL ABUSE IS EVEN WORSE YOU DUMBFUCK

>>>/pol/
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>>165980108
/pol/tards tend to love fantasy/40k though
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>people give bad rating to Attila because of "difficulty"
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>>165983771
The most worthless human on the planet is far more grand than the greatest animal.

>>>/mlp/
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>>165984024
animals can't defend themselves.........
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>>165984256
Most people can't in the face of organized opposition either.

Animal abuse is deplorable and truly illuminates somebody's psychopathic behavior more than inter-human conflict for sure.
But nothing of value was lost at the end of the day.
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>71 years old
fucking asians, mang
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>>165984630
I want a mod that replaces every face in Rome II with the Max Payne's face.
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>>165981964


The krauts did nothing most other peoples haven't attempted throughout history, they just happened to be the most recent ones when technology was able to facilitate killing and destruction on such a large scale.

Do you realize what someone like Genghis or Kublai Khan would've done with a 20th century army? They did the scorched earth and extermination tactics with muscle power almost better then the Krauts with machineguns, tanks, artillery and air support could.
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>>165969143
Totalwar IS a spreadsheet simulator. If you ever opened the database tables, you'll know
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>>165984558
kill yourself
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How the fuck do I play Greenskins at very hard difficulty? Dwarves always head straight south and slap my shit early and always run away and switch between my capital or my other settlement whenever I chase after them.
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>>165985545
One day.

>>165986167
Waaagh spawn is the easiest and most abusable way.
Depending on what I'm playing I turn the battle difficulty down while keeping the campaign on VH. But the battle difficulty slider is bugged at the moment so you can't use it.
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>>165984989
Did you forget the systematic genocide of people based on their ethnicity and disabilities????
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Do dwarves always conquer The Badlands in every non-greenskin campaign?
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>>165986620
are you implying that never happened before
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KHAZUKAN KAZAKIT-HA
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>>165986620


No?
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>>165986683

No, last 3 campaigns I've played since Welfs came out they got spanked really fucking hard by the Greenskins. As in by the time the Chaos invasion began Grimgor always had 20+ settlements and Dwarfs were stuck in Eight Peaks.

If Greenskins start confederacy blobbing early it's usually ggnore for the stunties. Because right after that they just start shitting out Waaaghs from their multitude of confederated army stacks.
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>>165986858
Not for the reasons and with the efficiency and hate that germans do.
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>>165984630
I dont understand why people once used these images to point out how bad Rome 2 is.

They understand that that's just the game set to lowest graphics?
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Oh shit a realm divide.
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>>165987712
Why the fuck are you still shilling the game years after?
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>>165987461


So get back to us when you're done with high school-tier history(and hopefully passed).
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>>165984004
>Attila had good ratings
>Attila gets a free weekend and the rating plummets to mixed

Why was this allowed
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>>165988484
>why are people allowed to excercise their first amendment rights??
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>>165988620
The first amendment covers the protection of speech from government censorship.

Do you live in the US?
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>>165988689
What the fuck is this retarded commie LIEeral bullshit are you spewing? You either have freedom of speech or you don't. It's not a halfway thing.
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keep up the good work guys
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>>165988689
>creative assembly is a private company so it's okay for them to censor things
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>>165986620
That was WW2 you ass.
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>>165988620
>>165989118
Good job. You completely misunderstood what that post was about.
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>>165989171
They’re still effectively genociding people right now by not allowing the free movement of human beings.
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What's the mod that adds more uniqueness to the empire? Things like roads and supply depots?
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What are they doing?
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>>165966245
What mod? Looks like it takes place in the Victorian era and I want Victorian Total War.
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This cavalry is pretty good
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G O B L I N S
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Are the "Lord Effects" affecting my entire game or just the army that lord is commanding?
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>>165992854
Entire game.
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>>165966245
What mod is this?
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How do I choose more than one units?

Is there any shortcut on the keyboard?
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>>165994221
Control+Click to select certain units
Shift+Click to select a line of units between what you've currently selected
Control+# for number groups (ie, press 1 to select the group of cavalry you groups to 1)
Ple
Shift+# for formations
Please tell me you've never played any kind of RTS or strategy before
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>>165992682
Goblins...
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>>165994221
Check the controls extras tab in options and it tells you everything.
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>>165994368
played total war for years, i just don't know how to play the newest game.
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>>165994368
I only started Total war last year, and I haven't been able to play many times because of shitty computer.
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>>165994618
>>165994926
I was being overdramatic. It's all gucci, famalam
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>have 6/6 governors deployed specced into reducing maintenance
>still losing 80% of all income

for what pvrpose
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>>165995113
You do not trvly vnderstand
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>>165991316
>>165993482
Zulu-Khartum
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>>165995113

looks like corrvption is a bigger problem than maintenance
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>>165978862
nice meme compositions you got there anon, get some individuality why dont ya
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>>165995874
seems like the dei team forgot to re-label it but corruption and maintenance are the same thing. If it weren't for my governors I would probably have over 100%, which makes no fucking sense at all
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>>165984989
as a german living in NYC currently, my ancestors didn't kill enough of these jews for fuck's sake
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>>165995973
Yeah I know, just sick of getting Shaggothed.
Karl is somewhat irregular though. And Helblaster is going out on a limb.
Though Empire can afford to do whatever they want I guess. As long as you have standard empire cost effective infantry and a jade wizard.
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>>165989254
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post carpets
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>>165996341
really hammers ur anvil
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>>165996140
i know the impulse myself, it's just what's killing the multiplayer i think. People fall into the "tiers" too easily in this game
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>>165996245
>>>/pol/
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>>165994926
there's a lot of nuanced control, but some of it you'll never need because there are alternative ways to accomplish it.

but others are really good to know.

Locking a control group makes a formation. Its good to know.
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>>165996508
Is the harmless dei infantry meme real?
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What did the developers of Divide et Impera mean by this?
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>>165972317
DO NOT INSULT NAGASH, HE WAS STRONG!
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>>165996531
I'm okay with some factions being stronger against most others, it's the lack of build diversity.

The three things they need to do are readdress magic and abilities first, none of the arrow or runesmith spam then.

Introduce the M2 era unit duplicate prices.

And as a whole the quick match system is fucked with race selection. Variation within roster should allow for different matchups.
Enter into quickmatch, pick a faction, get selected against somebody else. No faction swaps, just build your faction against theirs.

I want to multiplayer and I don't want to metagame, but I want to lose less.
It's why I don't play MP very often.
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>>165997029
>harmless dei infantry meme

note the pikeman with 800 kills

also this against garrison troops, which are obviously supposed to be weaker than the normal troops you use in your army
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>>165997383

W E A K
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>>165998109
YOU'RE WEAK, MANNFRED!
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>>165997795
Could be rout kills. Doesn't look like the enemy did much.
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>>165998163

WE

HAVE

SURPASSED

NAGASH
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>>165998163
*mumbles under breath*I'm not weak*mumbles under breath*
*teleports behind gelt*
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>>165998265
>*teleports behind gelt*
kek
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>>165982157

Gavrilo Princip's spirit animal is sexy as fuck

.
10/10; would yiff
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>>165998220
nah the kills on my gen/tarantine cav were rout kills. This is how the pikes got theirs
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>>165999176

Meh, Sacred Bands would own!
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>>165966927
I'd like to see diplomacy play a bigger role, and I'd be interested in stealing CK2's system wherein a war has a specific objective, and once that's achieved the AI usually negotiates a peace with you.
Oddly, I felt like the Empire's politics in Warhammer weren't bad the first time I played it. I had to dance around and way my options as far as pissing off other Elector Counts who I'd rather have as allies/vassals, while still pursuing my own goals. Electors getting pissy that your soldiers marched through their territory in pursuit of Beastmen seemed really fun and in-character with the universe.
Anyway, I wouldn't want complex diplomacy for all settings. Obviously, Warhammer should reward you for going berserk all the time.
But stuff like the Pope in Medieval was fun, and I'd like to see there be some grand campaign scenarios where just surviving/stabilizing the realm was your goal.
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Should I play as Baktria or Colchis?
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>hindus in selucia

this should be interesting

also r8 my empire - most of the "ally" factions are client states
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>>166000071
Baktria is easier and more railroady due to every game you have the same conquest path (seleucids, every single time) so I'd say colchis
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>>165999176

Can you imagine if TCA went through all the bullshit involved to prevent model clipping, even making special animation code which forces the engine to even make held weapons not clip through other models?

Tight-ass formations like that would be impossible in real life just because of all the fucking sharp objects and shit

fuck im in my 20s i dont want to wait until im 50 to see a rad historical strategy vidyagame where weapons dont fucking clip through everyones faces without ripping their skull in half
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>>165966927
I just want good AI.
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>>165999575
>>>/gsg/
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>>166001375
Maybe the reason they've held off on the update is to transplant Darren's brain into a computer and use it as their battle AI as punishment for endless leaks.
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>4 posts an hour
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First time playing Shogun 2, ever. (Had a shitty comp when it first came out)

Coming from a lot of original Rome, it's hard to transition, tactically.

Hammer and Anvil doesn't seem to work with this engine, Cavalry are incredibly weak due to the huge prevalence of spear troops, only useful for disrupting archer lines.

Just got a realm divide at 21 provinces in the year 1570, (doing the 40 province game), have all of Shikoku and Kyushu, and a lot of southern Honshu, not close to the capitol yet though. Did I rush it too much? Had to halt my advance for like 4 years to de-Christianize Kyushu.
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>>166001962
/twg/ is weak
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>>166002157

>trying to hammer and anvil in a country that invented neither the hammer or anvil

m8
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>>166002330
I'm just trying to do something more than mass infantry and archers.
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>>166002374

I'm just fuckin wtih ya, but yeah, the prevalence of yari troops and the small unit size of and armour of cavalry make them almost useless for hammering. Really only good for archer breaking and hunting fleeing enemies.
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>>166002157
Yari cav are pretty fucking spicy on the charge desu, light cav are only good for archer hunting though yeah.

Think of katana cav as dragoons and only really use their horses for getting around quickly, then dismount and charge, they wont get raped in extended combat by spears then. Also works great for taking out gates in sieges by riding up to them dismounting and torching them before your main force gets to them.
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>>165984824
When u see 24-32 year old asian.
Looked like 17-21.
You can imagine the other aging scenario yourselves.
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>>166002905
Oh I forgot, yari cav are AMAZING at general hunting too. Will absolutely wreck them in a matter of seconds.
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What time does Grombrindal unlock?
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>>166001612

git gud
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>>166003232

within the next 15.5 hours
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>>166003287
WILL THERE BE A PATCH AS WELL?
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>>166003972

perhaps
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Any of you dudes tried stuff like this out?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PGdYHW4Vs6nhSDchTSZphH-oc37HvhVEU5Q7SgLFG38/pub
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>>166004002

>This is a two player campaign

stopped reading there
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>public order loss is proportional to food shortage
>wealth is straight up -25%
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How do civil wars work in Attila? I expected my whole empire to split buts its only a single army or region.
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>>166004075

>not going on strike when your famalam is starving
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>>166003972
Enjoy those broken Wood Elves for another month.
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>>166004180
>i'll not work when there's a shortage of food, that'll show em!
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>>166004342

yeah, can't go conquerin the world without me paying my taxes can you faggot
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>>166004054

>he doesn't have a m8 to play with

Only true vnderstands can post here
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>>166004398
>if i stop working and contribute to the fall of my country then surely it would put food on the table!
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>>166004398
pay your taxes or ill conscript you
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>>166004469
NORMIES GET OUT RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERERER
GET OUT
GET OUT
GET OUT
GET OUT
GET OUT
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guys what good mods you can recommend for rome2?
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>>166004795
Attila desu
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>>166004795

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=186925601

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=233589292

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=194937272
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Have you pleased the Dark Lord of Mordor today, /twg/?
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>>166005156

YES
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>>166004609
henlo leddit
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last warning bud
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>>166004054
>This
Stopped reading there
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>>166005271

imagine the smell
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>>166005271
>>166005489
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>>166004516
>Oh that army that went off with loads of people from the town has left
>Apparently they've gone off to fight and die for us in a vain attempt to hold back the armies approaching this town
>Lol let's strike while they're gone
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i

want

STUFF

pls ca

i need my fix
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>>166005526
>political plots unraveling whilst the ruler is off fighting a war with little thought to the fact that they're fucking nothing without that army out there and if that army loses, nothing they "decree" will matter when the enemy sacks their city.

sounds like your average day in the 4th/5th century roman empire
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>spend more time managing than fighting in attila
>dont fight at all in warhammer, just keep autoresolving ridiculously one sided battles
where did it all go so wrong
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>>166006096
>spend more time managing than fighting in attila
what is it like living with severe brain damage? it takes maybe 1 minute total to figure our the best building choices in a province
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>>166006158
what is it like being mean?
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>>166006043
I know there's no hope for it, but I seriously hope there's SOMETHING.
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>>166006294
feels pretty awful actually, sorry
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>>166006043

Enjoy white dwarf you stupid goy
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>>166006294
>>166006371
Now hug
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>first campaign as chaos
>Get to endgame and decide to play dwarfs
>Have no idea how to manage provinces
>Confederate early, not able to keep up with teaching up buildings
>End up with quarellers, grudge throwers, and warriors against grimgore and get my shit pushed in repeatedly
What did I do wrong?
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>>166006096
Make sure you have a religious building and use priests to get rid of that 'religious differences' penalty.

Don't outstretch your food supply. Build goat farms if you have poor fertility, use fishing docks, trade depots and granary to suppliment.

Also dont be afraid of rebellions. Leave a General with a good unit, and then raise a few mercenaries for a turn and stomp them out when they happen.

Use politics for easy public order bonuses.

Bone carver for quick money.
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I play this mod just to have it tell me how awesome my dudes are desu
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>>166006519
>No idea how to manage provinces
>In the game with dumbed down province management
Duhh gee anon I dunno that's really stumped me there, have you tried not being a fucking moron?
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>>165971297
Ah yes, the great Teletubbie wars.
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>>165973569
I like Lindy and all, but his video about the MG42 was beyond retarded. And the fact he doesn't believe in global warming either.
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>>166006604
>dunlendings
>in MY middle earth
It's more likely than you think
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>>166006803
Lindy is a stupid opinionated cunt who has no idea what the fuck he's talking about
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>>166006932

And fucking tough

Enedwaith's capital is right next to Dunland's, but if you capture it, a full Enedwaith doomstack spawns in the woods to fuck you up. Only reason I got rid of it was because Isengard started messing around over here and the stack broke against an iron wall of Uruk-hai.
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>>166007028
I don't disagree. I like some of the shit he says (about spears for examples or the swords in the back), but that ain't really history and I always take it with a grain of salt. The video about the katana is also funny, but man, the one about the MG really fucked everything up.
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>>166007096
For example:

>Yes, very obviously there were more factors than bren guns that explain the advance of the Allies in in 1944/5 in the west. However, the point I make is that the front advanced towards Berlin every day, and this can only happen if infantry are moving forward, and taking and holding that ground. Artillery and air support cannot do this. It is also a way of countering the too-often-repeated notion that the Germans were better troops with better equipment. Yes, the best German troops were excellent, but let us not forget that they lost. If they were consistently better troops with better equipment, then they would not so consistently have lost.

Oh lindy. Artillery has been important for gaining ground since the Napleonic wars and WW1 was based around artillery. Troops can only advance if they have that support, it's not about the section gun.

> Give a man a slow-firing MG with a magazine of 28 rounds, and he will take careful aim and fire far fewer bullets, but with greater accuracy.

FOR FUCKS SAKE LINDY
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>>165966927
>bestselling author

HOW
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>>166007096
Nigga he just posts clickbait tier tilted videos about shit like cavalry being a bad idea, or his personal views on shit being shoehorned in
He's a stupid mother fucker that has no idea and should go back to writing shitty newspaper articles for spastics
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something something manlets
something something ever learn
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>>166007274
>HOW
women
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>>166007787
>manlets
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>>165983568
>t. cuck riding on bbc

We never should civilize germans
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>>166008235
>We
You haven't done a single thing with your life though, fucking dumb millennial faggot
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>>166008396
proofs?
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Anyone here play with the NTWIII mod for Napoleon?
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>>166008235
Marshall plan was a mistake.
t. Morgenthau
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>>165983771
>>165984256
>>165985545

t. humongous hypocrite.
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Are Grey Wizards any decent?
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>>166008730
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>>166008730
Best lore in the game.
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>>166008730

Yes, they're quite good

If you have a lot of Demigryphs and Steam Tanks I would probably take a Jade Wizard over a Grey, but otherwise I think Grey Wizards are the best wizards the Empire have.
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Guess which game this one is for
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>>166008983
Shogun 2
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>>166008983
Attila
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>>166008983

Attilla
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>>166008983
Shogun 2
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>>166008437
Show me some pictures of the German barbarians you have personally met, converted and civilised then my man
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>>166008983

>not blanking the name
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>>166008983

Rocket League
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>>166008983

Dota 2
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How do i fight against elves using unded? They just rolled over me
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>>166009227
sure thing lets meet in Pilsen
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I'm trying to play Shogun 2 coop with a friend, and we're trying to play with some small mods from the workshop but none of them work, we've tried enabling one at a time and they all give us incompatible versions when launching.

Vanilla works fine though.
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>Playing WRE on hard difficulty
>Nearly unstoppable on campaign map
>Rolling in money and all provinces are secure
>Most hordes destroyed
>Despite this I barely manage to win battles
>Decide to pussy out and change battle difficulty
>Mfw it has been on very hard this entire time
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>>166009124
>>166009173
Ding ding

>>166009245
Why should I? If you want to cheat, it's not like you can't just google the text and maybe add total war at the end
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>>166009380

1. Get a bunch of zombies (skelebros late game) and make a big wall in front of your army
2. Throw the zombies forward and let them soak up everything, Raise Dead means they're all throwaway units
3. Flank with cavalry, and plug holes/exploit gaps in the line with your Grave Guard
4. Leech enemy Heroes/Lords
5. Raise Dead behind the enemy lines to trap units and cause big hits to their morale
6. Kill everything
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>working isn't like my NEET days
>tired, wanna go to sleep
>boss want the report done tomorrow
>little sister want me to translate some of her assignments
>she won't even massage my back with her black-pantyhosed-legs in return
>modding team demands faster pace
>this start to feel like a chore

Oh, TRVE VNDERSTANDERS of /twg, enlighten me how to apply the lessons of Total War in real life?
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>>166009647

GET BACK TO MODDING
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>>166009647
Use your understanding of strategy to crush capitalism
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>>166009624
Oh i always neglected zombies and raise dead. Thats propably my problem. Thanks anon
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>>166009647
Didn't realise actual modders lurked here

twg best community
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>>166009918
you sure that guy isn't just some modder's steam friend?
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>>166009647

Stop slacking gayboi
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>>166009647
perform hammer and anvil to your sister till she agreed to work her assignments on her own.
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>>166009647
>He doesn't rule the empire of the mind
Your first and last mistake
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>>166009647
>>modding team demands faster pace
How many of them are like this? Cause the one I'm with is pretty chill. Though I'm just doing trait scripting right now so that could be why.
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>>166009647
You need to stab the problems in the dick.
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>>166007202
>Artillery and air support cannot do this.
The Slavs actually advancing on Berlin every day will disagree with him on that statement.
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>>166010821
And pretty much every single army in the history of the world.
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>>166010963
>>166007202
Would Lindy debate him?
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>>166011057
>getting hit by a stray lead ball and dying for days is dignity
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>>166009647
>SPANISH KINGDOMS
Get to work you fucking piece of shit!!
>>
Salve
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>tfw ded thread
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>Haven't used Pit of Shades yet because Miasma is more available and pretty good.
>In a siege against Kislev, they set up 3 units relatively close to each other.
>Drop Pit on all 3.
>Jump from 30~ kills to 267.
This is great.
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>>165966336
Night attack retard
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>>166009647
Modding is a hobby, if family and work is starting to get in the way, you're going to have to cut back on the hobby.

That's a lesson of real life.
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>>165966336
>>
>want to play vamp cunts
>Remember tree Hitler is a real thing.
>>
So was Medieval 2 just not playtested or did CA think it was acceptable to wait for the timer to tick down at 3x speed for 20 minutes because the enemy never fucking attacks during a siege?
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Sorry folks, roads closed
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>>166013149
Lure them forward with a sacrificial unit.
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>>166013149
Maybe you should play simpler baby's game like Ashilla or Shillhammer instead.
Medieval seems to be a bit too complex for you.
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Uh-oh
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>>166012298
>>166013791
What mod is that?
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>>166013791

It's obviously Narnia: Total War
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>>166013681
...
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>>166013878
Dawn of Conquest
released rather recently
Nothing special about the mod though
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>>166013681
>>166013925

Nothing makes my dick harder than a pike unit in a siege.
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>>165967949
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
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>>166013925
>>166014081
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I want city viewer back

There are so many cool maps in Attila with interesting buildings,o markets and barracks. A lot of what you build on the campaign map appears there too I think. I just want to see people going about their daily lives with the things I've constructed there rather than seeing it being burnt to the ground in a siege. They already have civilians.
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>>166014039
What part of Europe does it cover?
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>>166014248
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>>166014352
See for yourself
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>>166014356
>>166013681
>tfw you and your men casually murder 1500 syrians

all in a day's work
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>>166014580
1400 kills in one unit? holy fuck
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>>166014545

>that UI

Holy fuck why are modders so obsessed with gaudy, intrusive, messy UIs and UI elements?
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>>166015032
it's M2, they try to paint the turd golden and make it worse
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>want to try medieval 2
>download
>see ui
>vomit
>uninstall
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>>166015328
>want to try medieval 2
stopped reading right there
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>>166015105
I don't get why people whine about the M2 UI. I think it was nice and everything was understandable.
Every mod on the other hand tries to create a new UI which ends up looking like ass.
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>>166014580
Why even bring elephantsc
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>>166015328
>uninstall
stopped reading right they're
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>>166015404
>it was nice
yeah, WAS

>Every mod on the other hand tries to create a new UI which ends up looking like ass.
you can't improve shit, it will always be shit no matter what you do
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>>166015404
The UI structure in that image is exactly the same though. Only the background image and faction banners were changed.
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Gimli's not sure what to make of this.
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>>166015328
This

But i actually bought it
Warhammer ruined every other total war game for me
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>>166015445
due to the way the map was set up I had them initially deployed behind the pike unit that ended up w/ 1500 kills, so they spent most of the battle out of position
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>>166015530
>you can't improve shit
But the issue isn't that they try to improve it. They make it terrible almost every time. Like that 30 Years War mod looks horrendous and LotR wasn't much better.
>>166015561
Wasn't actually referring to the mod anon posted. I was more talking about LotR, WH or the 30 Years War mods for M2.
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>>166015580
Only a matter of time until Gimli and Balin get the "Likes Orcs" trait.
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>>166015328
>
stopped reading right there
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>>166015445
oh boy
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R8 my ERE
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ROMANS, TO ARMS!
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>>166016743
Secure the Italian peninsular my dude
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>Dwarfs get a Gyrocopter RoR
>Vampires get a Mortis Engine RoR
>Greenskins get a Arachnaroc Spider RoR
>Empire gets a glitchy Luminark

Why no Steamtank RoR? Why does CA fucking hate the Empire so much?
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>>166016836
Busy working on it as my next goal
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>>166016743
Pros
>haven't gone north of the danube
>secured italia from irresponsible ai

Cons
>random settlement in dalmatia uncontrolled
>random settlement in arabia

Pretty good, I assume you are currently working on removing the persians
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>>166016743
Needs more Italia, Africa, Hispania, Britannia, Germania and Galia.
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>DEI strives for historical accuracy
>celt armies are always 50% naked spear chuckers
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>>166016967
Yes. I was going to lose my territory on the eastern front so I paid them for peace so I could gather my forces hence the one random settlement. Dalmatia is an ally that I will keep for now to fight the WRE will betray them when I am in the position to do so.
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>>166017056
You memed yourself by not playing the approved Europa Barbarorum mod
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>>166016893

>FREE Net of Amyntoc
>Bad
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Does this unit exist?
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>>166017526

On the tabletop?

Fuck no.
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>>165982157
wait, why is he driving?, half the fucking problem was the damn driver not knowing were to go
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>>166016929
Roma Invicta

What army comp are you using, i find using anything other than 4 cav, 4 xbows and the rest heavy inf is useless
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>>166017526
That looks really stupid.
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movie when?
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>>166017891
Really shitty setup but I have stomped the Romans and conquered almost all of the Italian peninsula with just this army alone
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>Dream about fall of the samurai
>My Armstrong guns are wrecking the enemy until they come really close to my lines
>Start noticing my lines not taking much damage even when the enemy is firing from such a close distance
>Zoom in
>See that my line infantry is Dwarf Thunderers
>Wake up
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>>166018102
No Spartans XD
Why does the roman legionary look so weird XD
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>>166018136
Fair enough lad, I almost always find myself being attacked by more than 20 units at a time and i find my arty runs out of ammo too quickly
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>>166017891
Also persians just spam heavy cav in my campaign so I spam xbows and pikes against them
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>>166018329
I play highly aggresive with that army and always attack first. General has high enough cunning to initiate night battles so more than 20 units are not a problem for me. Might edit my army comp once I am able as Italy had really shit buildings so I had to rebuild the entire fucking province.
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Fantasy > History
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History > Fantasy
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History =/= Fantasy
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>>166018939
>>166019171

Taking it easy > Not taking it easy
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>>166018136
>no cav
>in Impact Damage: Total War

anon
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ARABY WHEN
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>>166019345
I just switch to explosive shot and shoot at their blobs most of their army is dead before they even reach me.
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Fantastical history > historical fantasy
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post anime
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certainly a fun campaign, although the new dei ai seems way to reluctant to make any sort of peace. Was fun to btfo rome as pyrrhus with elephants and the phalanx, and the amount of small factions that offered to be my client state made it seem like I was an actual power to be reckoned with. The new emergent factions need more naming variety, as by the end of the campaign half the map was filled with "____ Confederation" factions
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nth for United /twg/
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>>166019369
>mfw moors exist near me
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>>166017526
>MAGIC ARMOuRED SKELLY PEASANTS
>FOR EXTREME HARVESTING NEEDS
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I finished the first Malus Edgelord book

Is it worth continuing? Does the edgelord MC ever do anything remotely redeemable?

It was alright. There were some neat concepts, such as the abandoned city in the middle of the desert which was once home to an aquatic race, how the warp was handled, etc. The conclusion was incredibly unsatisfying.

I read it to see whether or not Dark Elves were as massive faggots as I thought they were, turns out they are.
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>>166019835
>236 BC

4tpy was a mistake

>>166020007
How is he an edgelord? Half the time in the books he tries to do something he ends up being captured and tortured and only survives because the demon wants to have fun watching him suffer, and he mostly manages to do something on his own because he bullshits his way around instead of just because he's cool. Only to be captured again later of course.
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>>166020007
>>>/tg/
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>>166020141
Let's see you discuss the last history book you read then
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>>166020343
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>>166016893
Because, lore wise, there are exactly 8 steam tanks left in the old world, and they're all functionally the same. It wouldn't make sense to have a steamtank RoR.
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>>166020456
Still have to read it myself just to see what it's like. I have an old 1936 version with foreword by the author himself.
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>>166020139
The entire first chapter of the book is

"Look how edgey I am. Haha, I said I would let one go intact, but I let one go intact into a Siren's mouth! Haha!

The most irredeemable thing he did was when he slaughtered his own retainers for no decent reason. Lhurnara was the only person who gave a damn about him and he just non-chalantly murdered her because whatever.
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>>166020596
That's no more edgy than most other stuff dark elves or anyone in the setting does. Don't remember the details about the killing his retainers stuff though, too much time has passed.
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>>166019995
>Mannfred: God, why did I fucking make these dudes, they look ridiculous. What do you even do with scythe armored skell-?
>Ghorst: Lord Mannfred! Bad news! The peasants inform us that some of the crops got possessed by spirits and are attacking our towns!
>Mannfred: ...huh.
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>>166020934
In WH plants vs zombies is serious business
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>>166020934
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>>166019918


A UNITED EMPIRE
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>Branchwraiths have an awesome selection of spells.
>But spellsingers are much hotter.

What do.
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>>166021268
Use both. Brandchwraith +attack aura can stack with your Lord's +attack aura
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>>166020679
So, does he ever stop being a perpetual failure with zero redeeming qualities?
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>>166021268


You know what to do.
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>>166021507
Yeah, when he dies.
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>>166021535
GONNA KISS
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>>166021548
Doesn't he die in the End-times?

Or does he die and get revived by the demon or something in the series?
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>>166021689
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>>165966082
>corinthian helmets
o i am LAFFIN
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>>166021763
foot fags are literally the worst, even loli stomach expansion by tentacles and guro fags have better fetishes
foot fags should be gassed
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>start a Welf/Argwylon co-op campaign with a friend
>decide to build up my city for the units I want while they make an autostack and go out to blow shit up
>don't attack Pavarron until turn 12
>have to siege it
>run out of money for some reason
>suffer attrition
>might not be able to win on manual
How do I politely ask for a tank of cyanide gas
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>>166019736
say no more famalam
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>>166021763
GONNA SUCKLE ON THOSE TOES.
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>>166020679

What's the point of the Dark Elves? And why in all fantasy are Humans always in different nations and peoples but Elves and Dwarfs are monolithic and homogeneous?
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>>166021849

>even loli stomach expansion by tentacles and guro fags have better fetishes


t.weeb weirdo
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Here we go lads
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>start a Vlad campaign on VH
>take w. and e. vampirestan by turn 6
>proceed to snowball in less than 50 turns, control averland, stirland, ostermark, wissenland, reikland in shambles from tree nazis and skarsdick
>4 stacks of grave guard, black knights and other assorted monster mash bullshit
>already unstoppable and chaos hasn't even shown up yet
>get intensely bored and quit

Have you ever master strategist so hard you got bored and stopped playing?
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>>166021986
Why does he pull a longbow like it was a japanese one?
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>>166022707
>anime
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>>166022541

>snowballing
>vampire cunts

pick 2, easiest campaign in the game bar none. dwarves are more difficult than vampires
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>>166022541
I know that feel.
My advice is take a break from total war until you feel like playing it again.
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>>166022476
Battlelines set
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>>166022707
>japanese pull
>?

That's the way Longbows are supposed to be drawn, fampai.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsbp4w-4E68
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>>166023023
Huh, I never realized they drew that far back, but some people in that video clearly draw as far as the japanese do. I've seen people shoot IRL, but they never drew all the way behind the chin.
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>>166022123
They aren't tho.

High Elves, Dark Elves, Wood Elves, and within them a series of different sub-factions.

Dorfs have a bunch of different clans.
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>>166022901

This. Bretonnia is coming out in a month or so, quit it until then. If we're lucky they'll also rejigger other parts of the base game in the OWE.
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Grombrindal is released btw
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>>166022476
>Persians
>In italy
What in the fuck
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>>166022123


The high elves are made up of many different kingdoms who control different parts of Ulthuan, they're largely at peace and answer to the Phoenix King but they've been at war against eachother many times.

The dark elves are made up of different clans(was originally one of the kingdoms on Ulthuan) and are constantly fighting eachother.

Wood elves, same deal but within the microcosm of their smelly little forest.

Dorfs, same deal as the high elves really.


I personally find the concept of humans, elves and dorfs fighting each other completely unrealistic as long as they exist in a world with such massive existential threats like orcs, ogres goblins and dragons etc. but that's just like my opinion man.
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>>166022476
Which mod is that? Is it just Roman Britain with a unique roster and nothing else?
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>>166023338

>Dwarf Clans

Largely in name only, the only note worthy exception is the Norse Dwarfs and they're as fleshed out as a skeleton. But Dwarfs all speak the same language, hold grudges, dig holes, etc. They're culturally homogeneous regardless of Clan. They don't even have different skin tones.

The Wood Elves and & Dark Elves are also derivative of the High Elves. They exist because of, not apart from the High Elves. Where as Kislev, Estalia, Araby and Tilea are unique cultural entities apart from the Empire. Even if they are knock offs of real world human cultures.

Granted WHFB's setting exists to justify the TT game or well did exist so at the end of the day the setting bends to the will of the game not the other way around. But my point is why Dark Elves? Why not just have as many myriad Elven sub-factions and nations like Humans? At least then it wont seem as woefully contrived. Before the Sundering it was literally just High Elves as a singular entity.
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How do you pronounce 'onager'?

>>165965051
It does my heart good to see a pagoda again
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>>166022951
Pathetic

>>166023587
Don't worry anon, by mars they will be gone soon

>>166023606
The mod is called The Roman Legion is back, they are a little bit OP but as they require a Tier 4 barracks its not too bad. They're mostly there for the a e s t h e t i c
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>>166024167
>How do you pronounce 'onager'?

"On-a-gur" or "On-a-jer"
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>>166024331
>english speakers
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>>166024167

U-nuu-gher
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>>166024167
ona-hole
the g is kinda of an h sound like how George in Spanish is Jorge
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>>166025675
onahole as in the onahole onahole?
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>>166006604
wussat
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Has anyone ever made effective use of skirmishing cavalry in an evenly matched battle in Attila?
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>>166026708
Cavalry with javelins? I fucking love javelins. Use them to fight armored opponents and watch the enemy melt.
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How do you deal with military ports in shogun fots?
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Why does no one ever show love for the Lombards?
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>>166027315
>Lombards
>Gotta Catch 'Em All: The faction

They are fun.
>>
Just bought this, hope I can run warhammer on max now
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>>166027587
>No DELL GAMING MOUSE

You won't be able to run it.
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>>166027587

That's so much overkill.
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>>166027587
>Pro
>OEM

Don't.
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>>166027587
>tfw poorfag trying to scramble money to get a rig to play video games at above 25 fps on the campaign map
Good on you for making a rig mate
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>>166027840
thanks man, it set me back a month of pay but I never really buy anything for myself so figured it was about time I got something nice
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>>166027587
Might as well get a 1440p monitor now
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>>166027749
What's a good setup to run Warhammer on high settings at 60fps?
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GET

THE

BOOK!
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>>166027587
>Buying an i7 7700k when Ryzen is just around the corner
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>>166028658
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>>166029029
It's Kaby Lake which was made available to the public about a month ago, not really worried about it being old.
>>
>>166029029

>AMD Processor
>Gaming
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>>166029029
After paying the shills I wonder how many tens of dollars AMD has left for development.
>>
>Grombindals campaign offers nothing new at all, regular Dwarf shit

Why was this release hyped again?
>>
Age of Sigmar > Warhammer 40k > Warhamer
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>>166029791
The method of obtaining it was kinda neat.
Nobody ever hyped it.
It was the opposite, when after the break; announcing the white stuntie as an update pissed off everybody because they wanted something of substance.
Literally everyone had him already as well.
Even me, who fucking hates the stunties.
I just used a code here that was four hours old out of curiosity.
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When will the best character become available as a legendary lord?
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>>166021986
>filename
I agree. Bernd was the only good character in the entire show, as he had actual character depth.
I hated that they tired their best to get the 14th/15th century in terms of arms and techniques, but failed to do anything with the history of the setting. No important people, places, or events. Take any medieval war between Christian powers and the war would appear to be no more different--it could have been two fantasy kingdoms with some generic Catholic-like religion.
Then they just shoe in a "I WANT PEOPLE TO STOP FIGHTING" MC without any character growth and virgin jokes because anime is fucking stupid.
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>>166030167
>Yes, yes, well done mighty lord. Well done. HOWEVER!
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>>166030167
Nigga that ain't Nagash
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>>166030317
Nagash is too big of a guy.

Best undead lord is Kroak
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>let rebellion fester to a full stack
>let them attack city
>slaughter them, 1700 total causalities
>no battle marker

????
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>>166030167
>mfw this guy got straight up shit on by tzeentch

Honestly what did he expect? And what kind of cunt nozzle human would work for greenskins or beastmen?
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>>166029164
>>166029218
Memeing aside yeah, right, the new AMD processor actually looks as though it's caught up a lot with intel in IPC/single thread performance.

>>166029220
A whole four tens
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>>166030698
Nobody cares about stupid rebel scum
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>>166030317
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>>166030167
>special ability
>getting killed by a fucking bird

Worse than Gelt.
Better than Azhag.
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>>166030712
>You are actually a demonic entity that posses one of the lords you selected. You don't know you are a demon though. You possessed said lord when you selected it.
>The advisor is a pawn sent by Tzeentch to make sure you succeed. Tzeentch bullshit ensure that orcs or whatever overlook the fact the advisor is a human.
>The player's progress is all part of Tzeentch's master plan for whatever Tzeentchian bullshit he has planned.

Doesn't matter who wins, Tzeentch feels like having a single dominate faction on the map for a while, and you the player will enable that. Both you and the advisor are mere pawns.
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>>166030712
Wait so it's an actual character in the lore? And his bird is a chaos god?
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reminder that Warhammer is on sale on Humble Store for $44.99
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>>166030712
I'm gonna write a novel to explain everything.
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>>166031813
The bird is a greater demon of chaos. Both characters are CA OC, which is fine.

Kinda lame that the betrayal event doesn't fire for factions other than chaos. It should have been an event that fires some time after the chaos invasion event.
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>>166031968
I'll be surprised if they don't do a sale when Bretonnia comes out since the implication is that it caps off the current warhammer game, although I suppose there could be some more DLC down the line.
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>>166031813
> And his bird is a chaos god?

No not the actual "god" persay but a "Greater daemon"(lord level) of it. The greater deamon possessed the bird and probably gave the advisor orders on what to do.
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>lmao Orcs

At this rate I have to fight the damn Dwarfs to get the Badlands.
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>>166032261
>probably

You see it whispering to him in the Empire intro, as well as all the others I think.
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>>166033280
Just confederate them once there's no orcs left in the badlands.
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>>166033469
I doubt they want to do that at 15 settlements when there's no more Orcs around.
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>>166033280
>Barak Varr surviving more than 5 turns
It always surprises me how different the campaign plays out, especially the Badlands and Vampires get a different outcome every campaign
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>>166033709
Just capture more settlements faster than them and the difference in power will do the rest.
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>Start BotET game as Wissenland
>Decided I want a comfy campaign without expanding too much
>Take Blood Keep from vamps because fuck them
>Bretonnia makes an alliance with Reikland and attacks me next turn
>Reikland disolves alliance with me
>5 turns later Reikland declares war on me
>Every single elector disolves their alliance with me including the Dwarves

I would murder them all out of spite but I can't be bothered declaring war on the world.
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>>166034082
>>Start BotET game as Wissenland
What mod?
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>>166020523
they are not functionally the same you dolt, it's the exact opposite. There's like 12 prototype custom steam tanks they can't reproduce and then the default model that's seen in the game.

Then again the lore for the fucking steam tank changes like every edition so fuck me
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>>166033280
>>166033709
What difficulty?
On my VH stunties game they were missing all the eastern badlands and one settlement in their home province, but they had all the western and southern badlands.
I had everything else down south, and was missing the far north province you have with the special gold mine.
It took them awhile but eventually they agreed.
I think it was after I developed everything into a proper economic base and could support far more units than the AI(without cheating), which must be a big consideration in the power rankings.

Also in my game they're super liable to declare war on the border princes.
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>>166034183
>What mod?
BotET, can't you read?
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>>166034231

I dearly hope that one of the Skaven regiments of renown is the steam tank they looted.
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>>166034383
Yes I can. What does BotET mean?
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>>166034514
google botet total war

The first word is beginning
the penultimate word is end
can you unravel the mystery?
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>>166034514
>Not googling "BotET" and "totalwar
>2000+10+2+2+1+1+1

In all seriousness you should use the full name of something before shortening it to it's acronym as a form of courtesy.

>>166034082
This poster is in the wrong here.
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seriously it's impossible to win a naval battle in shogun 2

what the hell
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Are shielded spearmen good to have against the empire as empire? They have armour piercing but is it worth it for the amount of armour enemy troops have? I have been having trouble lately with them and I think it's because I have been going primarily swordsmen and crossbowmen
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>>166034082
Now I reloaded campaign and had to sell myself like a cheap whore for the alliance.
>1k crowns per turn for 10 turns
>granted them millitary access
>gave them map information
>requested trade agreement
And they happily accepted the perfidious jews.
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>>166035280
Get fire arrows.
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How to play TW:Warhammer as Any Race in the Grand Campaign - By Creative Assembly

>Step 1: Capture your starting province.
>Step 2: Identify most valuable neighboring province. (Empire = Wissenland, Vampires = W. Sylvania, etc)
>CONDITIONAL STEP: If Greenskins or Dwarfs blitz them in their starting province ASAP, if you don't it may complicate this formula.
>Step 3: Begin to build up your two provinces, if possible make trade agreements and NAP with neighbors.
>Step 4: With your main army begin to raid near your capital until you can reliably farm rebel stacks for cash and experience.
>Step 5: Rinse and repeat while turning your two money maker/troop producing provinces into fortresses.
>Step 6: Kick off the Chaos invasion and do absolutely fuck all, letting Chaos and Beastmen torch the world.
>Step 7: Using your farmed uber armies lightning strike cheese Chaos.
>Step 8: With Chaos dead and most of your useless neighbors dead use your armyless lord stacks to paint the map as you please.
>Step 9: Win in this engaging totally not poorly designed and ill executed grand campaign.
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>>166035682

How to play TW:Warhammer as a Horde in the Grand Campaign - By Creative Assembly

>Step 1: Don't you stupid fuck.
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>>166035280
>not accepting the word of jesus and spamming 10-gun caravels
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>>166035682

I cheese pretty hard but even I aren't this determined to not have any fun
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>>166033280
Why? Just go past them?
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>>166035682
>Step 4: With your main army begin to raid near your capital until you can reliably farm rebel stacks for cash and experience.
Fuck this part. Also follow this guide if you want to ruin your experience.
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>>166030167
Leave the traitorgates to me
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>>166035280

Just get those medium bunee or whatever they're called and board the enemy asap
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>>166035897
This. I understand it's no excuse for bad game design, but if you're gonna play like that then maybe this kind of game isn't for you.

>raid your own provinces to fight rebels
wew lad, that's some heavy autism
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I have a somewhat specific question for /twg/:

When you're planning on where to expand next, how much thought do you give to how wealthy a faction/area is? I ask because in a recent campaign I kinda fucked myself with this:

>Medieval 2 SS as Sicily
>going good, conquer all the way to Granada
>meanwhile, Byzantine Empire is mostly conquered by Fatimids
>decide to take Greece
>stack after stack after stack of Fatimids against me
>go online to see if anyone else thinks this is insane
>see someone point out that the Fatimids, with only the (three region large) Crusader States as a natural enemy, likely have all the wealthy cities in the Middle East and Turkey
>meanwhile most of my regions are shitty North African towns
>mfw
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>>166031715
>be Tzeentch
>betray the EverCHOSEN
>he and his bros kill you champion
What did he mean by this?
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Love being fucked as a paying customer
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>Turn 250 something
>About 6-7 factions left in the game
>They all spam units that just tip the auto resolve bar in their favor even if it's a completely unviable army that's just annoying as fuck to fight.
>Have to manually fight defensive sieges where my garrison simply has to shoot for 5 minutes at 20 units of horseman marauders
>Have to manually fight battles where I just charge half a stack of nothing but dwarf artillery units and instantly win
>Wood Elves, who I left trapped inside Athel Loren 50 turns ago after destroying literally all their belongings outside of it, declare war on me while they're getting swarmed by Mousillon.
>Check their stack.
>11 forest dragons.

Holy fucking shit the Warhammer lategame campaign is fucking tedious.
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>>166035682
>Step 10: realise that Tree Reich has expanded across the entire fucking map
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>>166036124
huh?
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>>166036124
>Crybaby: The Postening.
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>>166036149
>tfw never gotten to turn 200
I just keep giving up.
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>>166036149

Is there a Total War game whose lategame ISNT tedious?
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India Total War fucking when

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ULNVSoDius
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>>166036124

>Not using honga
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>>166035682
>Step 4: With your main army begin to raid near your capital until you can reliably farm rebel stacks for cash and experience.

This one really pisses me off. I never even considered this before but I tried it on a lark once and found that it gives you a lot of money, experience, items, followers and most annoyingly really good character traits.

By the time Vlad was done raping and pillaging around Drakenhof he had tax and public order boosting traits, and boons to his magic and melee attack. Where as if I had spent the last 10 turns fighting Stirland I'd have "HARSH" and "LIKES THE EMPIRE". Fix your shitty fucking game CA.
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Fucking Bret

Can I do it? I feel like no.
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>>166036692

If those swordsmen were spears I'd say yes

As is, I don't think so.
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>>166036692
Shut down the cav with your crossbowmen and meme on peasants with your superior infantry. Also take out that treb with one cav unit.

Should be ezpz
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>>166036115
>some long term plan that no mortal can comprehend.
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>>166036476
>8 minutes in

I don't even know.

Also I like how the bad Indians are literal orc niggers. A+, Tolkein would be proud.
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>>166037220
Well congratulations, Archaon's now independent and you've destroyed the world. What's the next step of your master plan?
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>>166037209
GW axed the permissions upon hearing CA plans for a navyless 1 faction expansion with 2 full price DLCs.
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>>166037447

Crashing this setting

WITH NO SURVIVORS
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OwO

What's this!?
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What faction should I pick
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>>166038085

The Principality of Reikland
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>>166006604
Wait, is this Third Age Total War? I thought you couldn't play as those barbars.
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>>166038393
The medieval one has their faction in a submod I believe. The RTW one has a fuck ton of factions and is amazing, and I'd love to know where that guy got it.
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>>166037962
The maze Dolores.
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White and based
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>>166038539
I thought they made the LotR mod for Alexander Total War.
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>>166038085
>Plantagenet


>What kinda dynasty name you want?
>Just Ptolemaios my shit up
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>>166034329
VH, I was a bit busy fighting the Orcs who hold Mount Gunbad so I couldn't move down south as fast as the Barak Varr guys. Orcs are down to one settlement, everything else in the Badlands is held by various Dwarf clans.
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>>166038846
Alexander Total War is from the days when expansions were expansions on the base game and not standalone. ATW is more like AoC than Attila.
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>>166036041
You know what to do then retard. Sail to Africa.
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>>166035851
Beastmen is pretty fun though.
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>>166038839
>President Gollum
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making it...making it...making it...making it...
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>>166035682
> Identify most valuable neighboring province. (Empire = Wissenland
Hi Marienburg
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>>166036041
The wealth of the regions you take doesn't matter too much. North Africa is pretty good, or at least the coast is. The moors are rich at game start so develop their provinces more. Fatimids are just super strong. Playing defensive in Greece is easy. Just make another stack and put it on boats and take out Alexandria or some shit.
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>>166035283
Against the empire I usually have unshielded spearmen or halberds in reserve to fight against any cav they end up having. Other than that it's best to invest the money you save into other units
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>>166039983
At least the 1212 campaign will be released before then, right?
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What the fuck is texture filtering and how is it different than anti aliasing? Can I turn this shit off to maybe improve grpahics in other areas? Or is it going to be terrible without it?
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>>166040968
They made the golden horde. It looks SOLID desu
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>>166039983
Fuck off you goddamn mythomaniac son of a bitch. That's just some random retard commenting on the mod, he's not part of the team. Aproximate release is february/april.
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>>166040989
Go back to your "tabletop" "imagination" game and leave the video gaming to the pros, kid.
Pshh
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>>166041262
Prove it
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I wish they were more inclined to attack. I love defending but seems the AI does the smart thing and just tries and starve me out.
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>>166036476
I really want a dynasty warriors India after seeing that shit.
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>>166036476
>24:50
>throwing people mega attack
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>>166036476
Notin personel kid
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>>166036476
That blanket shit is savage damn
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>>166040968
Don't hope too much for a speedy release, anon. Nowhere close to finish. Even September 2017 is an optimistic date.

>>166041215
That's the Ilkhanate Shahgazadan Guards, not the Golden Horde's
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>>166043029
>Attila shaped provinces
Nothing kills my excitement for the mod more than that.
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>>166043656
what? you want the modders to make completely new provinces?
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Orc """""""art"""""""
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Divide and Conquer or MOS?
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>>166043656
>anon's autistic request single handedly responsible for pushing the release date back to 2019

Please, anon. Please. Stop.
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>>165966325
Yes
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>>166044112
Back when I cared about M2 DaC was universally seen as the superior submod.
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Wasn't there a mod for Warhammer that made Empire troops from different parts have different colour schemes?
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>>165968239
Reminder that half of paint sales were better than fantasy's actual sales, so you fantasy fags can shut up and go back to your basement whilst I play with my sigmarine KANGZ
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ATTILA MUSIC TOOLS WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
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>>165968239
They nuked the setting because, despite their best efforts, people just weren't buying the models. At the absolute peak of the End Times with the flood of new models being released WHFB never made up more than 10% of GW's revenue despite taking up just as much shelf and warehouse space as 40k.
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>>166044442

Yeah there was.
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>>166044568
>implying CA still care with old games
>when they can milk from the newest game
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>>166044698
>despite their best efforts
Thats somewhat the point. GW handled the fantasy IP HORRIBLY for like 15 years, let it stagnate, let interest fall off and then tried to revitalize it when they'd already given it a slow permanent death. Their best effort came way too late to save it.
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>>166043948
hey man one orc spent a good week eating nothing but bad squigs and fungus as well as a couple of voluntold doomdiver goblins to create that master piece.
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>>166044250
Appreciated. I can't find any decent comparisons between them.
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>>166044698
warhammer fantasy was the second most popular table top miniature wargame.

Any of GW's competitors would have loved to have had the sales of warhammer fantasy.

It just didn't have the same pull as 40k and always seemed under performing when compared to it.
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>>166042269
Underrated picture
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>>166044136
Yeah, has nothing to do with the autistic modders caring more about custom battles or anything
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>>166044698
wew lad, they still had an effective monopoly on fantasy miniatures, it's never been anything but a niche market

and btw, the rules were broken and made big models (99% of the releases) effectively useless for anything but display, no wonder they did not sell
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Bullied
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>>166045832
>big models useless
So very true. I had a 2.5k point high elf army and the only two models in the entire thing bigger than a standard infantry unit were the two great eagles I used for war machine hunting.

I miss that army and its absolutely retarded block of invincible phoenix guard.

>mfw my opponents found out they had a 2+ ward save vs anything magical
So much salt was had.
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>>166043762
Of course I obviously do.
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>>166046124
>when they found out
Who the fuck didn't know exactly what kind of bullshit they were getting into when they were going to play against Helves?
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>>166044442
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=836552166
You can try this one, but he also added a bunch of extra units.
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>>166046124
>>166046373
>engaging the enemy death star instead of ignoring it

Even without knowing the specific rules, the other player had only himself to blame
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>ywn clean the blood off her feet with a warm tree leaf
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>>166046124
>High elf general killed by a peasant and a damsel in close combat.

Sometimes warhammer was great. I miss my bretonnians. I loved just spamming knights I'd always go for lots of units of knights of the realm try to get at least 40 knights on the field.

Can't wait for bretonnia to be released so I can use questing knights in multi. Brets are lacking a good armor piercing hammer.
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>>166046373
It turns out that caradryan, while absolutely fucking based, was not a popular hero choice back then.

Mindrazoring them was also hilarious.
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>>166046564
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something something nig
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>>166047018
>The Beasts of Burden
lmao
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What the fuck is it with these guys? They stand to gain three and a half grand from this trade and they still won't accept.
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>>166047578
Because their opinion of you is currently "we don't want to go to war with these guys RIGHT NOW but it's still on the cards". Of course they won't trade with you.
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r8 my Dwarven formation
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>>166047983
>not creating a massive trade deficit in your favour to rake up the moolah before you conquer them
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>ai
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>>166043029
Oh wow, the French King actually got de-shitted.
>>
>Hire a goblin big boss.
>He critically fails twice.
>Never succeeds an action for the almost 15 turns I have him.
I understand why everyone hates goblins, including other goblins.
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I gots affica
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>>166048781
Now it is time for your men to enjoy the big black booty and for your women to enjoy the big black cock.
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>>166048884
Oh, whoops. I killed all the natives
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Looks good
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fucking cordoban shits
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>>166048938
You cannot kill off the big black ass and the big black cock. There will always be more, corrupting your sons and daughters.
>>
>Age of Bronze never
>Ancient Empire never
>1212AD never
>FOTE update never
>GoT campaign never
>LotR campaign never

WHERE ARE THE MODDERS?

WHERE IS MELONCAT?
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>>166049041
Christ is with us!
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>>166049165
What was even happening in 1212?
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>>166049216
If Christ is with you, why do you have an improved ambush chance? Only the devil would ambush enemies.

And only the devil would use skirmishers instead of archers and slingers.
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>>166047996
8.5 itaintme/ 10 needs a gyro copter and organ gun.
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>>166049452
Deus has not given us access to such advanced technologies yet
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>>166049541

My other armies have some Gyro squadrons. But I couldn't afford them with this one
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>>166049415
Muslims are starting to lose spain
France launches a crusade against heretics in the South

Maybe they took 1212 because it has more factions?
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dam
thasalotta speers
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>>166050318
Micro the xbows super hard and you'll be fine.
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>>166047578
No, you stand to gain 3.5k from that agreement. They stand to gain 700.
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>that feel when you're a dirty cornerhugger

Outside the map I see mountain passes that Leonidas would cry to turtle in, but this fucking border doesn't let me. Fine. I'll just use the feature CA loves to give us. It's about time they let us choose our battlefields to a better degree.

Also, end-game orc compositions suck. There wasn't a single unit of orc boys in this battle. Not a single fucking one. Is there a way to change that? I want the greenskins to have infantry heavy armies and swarm me with numbers.
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>>166049576


Unit variety for AoC is a must desu, even inbred mountain yokels like the Asturians would have some peasants who could fire a bow around.
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>>166045571
yep, it has nothing to do with that, they have attila provinces because shogun2 is the only newer tw game with a map editor
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>>166050934

*The unit variety mod
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>>166050652
nah i think i'll just stick em with the pointy end
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>>166051140
>using taiFAILy cavalry
why?
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>>166047996
completely unprotected artillery, huge gaps in the line. the shit is this son.
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>>166051210
they do the job just fine
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>>166048962
Nice looking dawi you got there

What mud?
>>
What is the sebidee unit mod of attila grand campaign?

Something that fleshes out rosters, gives you different units for all tiers, but still doesn't feel like Dragon Mounted Slayer Guards (Trollhammer Torpedos)(Fast (For a Dwarf)
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What's that I see ova yonder? A wee goblin catapult innit? Smash it eh
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>>166051589
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=792701179&searchtext=
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Is this another one of his schemes?
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>>166052115
Thanks lad, got any other decent dawi mods?
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>>166052187
GONNA POKE
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>>166052187
S C H E M E R
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>>166052187
Are you using a mod to make that happen? I want that. I want that so bad. I'm so tired of these orc armies composed of nothing but special snowflake units.
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RANALD IS WITH YOU!

>+1 magic reserve
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>>166052581
RANALD IS WITH YOU!

>magic stays at the same value
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>>166052581
Hey, putting up that group heal 10 seconds earlier could save your entire army.
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>>166052395
Nope, no mod.
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>>166052201

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=755893565
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>>166051378
any other cav unit does it better
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>>166038839
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>>166051140
>going east or south with the ostrogoths
>not setting up the historical italian kingdom after sacking a bunch of western cities in spain and gaul

doing it wrong
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>>166050727
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=787066965&searchtext=AI+recruitment

You don't need any other mod even if it says so. It's just recommended.
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>>166054315
>fucking with the huns
lmao my senpai
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>>166054620
>not save game compatible
Oh well. I'll try that when Bretonnia rolls out. Thanks.
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>>166055486
It should be. If you use it on a save you will have to kill off the old enemy armies to see any effect(because they have to recruit new ones).

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=692306546 There is also this one, but the same thing applies.
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There is only one true Lady.

AND HER NAME IS MYRMIDIA!
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>>166050727
The worst part about Warhammer is the battle maps
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>>166055450
I thoroughly smashed the huns in northern italy and the alps, and after killing attila's stack, I hunted them all down and slaughtered every last hunnic shit that dared dream of conquering ostrogothic italy

grow some balls
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This is who I fight for right here.

Do you think it's a better life under the Empire than Bret for the peasants? I like to think so, that's why I fight them.
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>>166055793
They look so great. Well made. Shame they don't mention Myrmidia in their voice lines though.
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>>166055961
nah ill be fine in africa
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>>166056205
well I also conquered africa and everything else on the map for that matter

this whole "run away from threats" strategy people have is pretty pathetic. The true master of strategy tactic is to slaughter as many factions as possible as quickly as possible
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>>166056140
It probably is. Averland is known to be peaceful and you can easily live without ever seeing a big orc invasion, so I would live there.
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>>166056367
ok

do you think everyone has to play like you?
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>>166056442
NEEEEERD

go back to warhammer pleb
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>>166056489
Carthago and Iberia are goat places to settle desu. I did it as the Vandals, Alans and proto-vikings.
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What's the difference between an ork and an urk?
Bonus question: Does Grobbi mean goblin?
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>>166056704
the vandals are SUPPOSE to settle in africa, historically it's what they did. The ostrogoths are SUPPOSE to settle in italy.

>not going for a historical run

get the fuck outta here
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>>166056959
An ork is an orc from 40k and urk is dwarven for orc.
And yes, grobbi is dwarven for goblin.
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Man I knew Genevieve was kind of a mary-sue but I had no idea she was eternally 16 married to the authors self insert and also a ninja
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>>166057065
thanks
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>>166056973
you only do historically accurate runs?
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>>166056973
>Not migrating to France as the Seleucids
>Not migrating to Baghdad as the Holy Roman Empire
>Not razing Norsca as Wood Elves.
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Campaign release when???
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>>166057065
Urk also means enemy.
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>>166057260
the first time around yeah I try to stick to what a tribe's historical land was, and then I go on from there. Ostrogothic are best used to take Italy and then move across the Mediterranean and take Africa and Spain while you hold the line in northern italy. then you take your stacks from Africa and Spain and bring them to northern Italy in time to crush the Huns and kill attila. Ostrogothic are like playing as a roman successor state with a barbarian flavor, it's best to make sure Rome is your capital as it actually was for the ostrogoths, it's a damn fun and exciting campaign. Running and hiding in Africa is just cowardly.
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>>166057980
>it's best to make sure Rome is your capital as it actually was for the ostrogoths

The fuck are you talking about? Their capital was Ravenna.
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>>166057105
dont forget
>vampire blessed by sigmar
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What now Bretonnia you fucking faggots, I don't even know how to spell your stupid name but you're gonna get rekt. I'm gonna take all your peasants and then I'm gonna lick your lady's feet.
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>>166058541
>I'm gonna lick your lady's feet.
l-lewd...
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now THIS is how you build an empire
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>>166057980
>Running and hiding in Africa is just cowardly.
Shit I'd better try something else, then. How's this?
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>>166058851
The Empire of Dong
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What would you guys say is the best entry point to the series? I'd say Shogun 2.
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>>166058851
>EU3 Long korea.jpg
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>>166058851


>Half the Old World feels the weight of Karl Franz' mighty cock.
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>>166059086
Rome 1 personally. Works good even on toasters and has the most interesting time period. Also a plethora of good mods.
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>>166057458
>that bumbling Sir Onion in the front ranks.
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>>166058851
>karak norn has karak azgaraz
>skarsnik has karak norn proper

TRICKSY
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>decide to finally try a siege battle as I have mortars and all that
>game starts me in range of all their towers, if I had known I'd move them back
>towers shooting arrows have the same range or more of my mortars
>mfw
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>Empire
>Playing Sweden
>Take over Denmark and Norway in one turn
>They still have Iceland
>I'm going to have to dedicate an entire army to taking over this shithole
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Oh fuck. I totally forgot about the free white dwarf dlc. Neat I guess.
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what are some must have cosmetic mods for VC for extra spooks? I have the darker map.
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>archers behind front line
>archers start targeting units in combat with front line
>archers kill more of my front line than the enemy
alt-f4
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Is there a release date for Bretonnia yet or is it still just "FEBRUARY"
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>>166060370
The most git gut moment possible
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>>166060105
Brighter eye-lights, or varied zombies, or pale vampires, or maybe that brighter Mannfred recolor.
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>>166038393
It's third age total war with the divide and conquer submod, adds a ton of factions.
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>>166059919


Siege battles in Warhammer is complete garbage, avoid them at all costs.

>hurr durr lets trundle all these cannons right up in range of their arrow towers
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>>166057458
When AE campaign releases.
>over 700hrs in rome 2
someone please end my suffering
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>>166059919
>>166061212


Why not actually assault the walls without doing the boring shoot at walls game? Don't be a fucking pussy and just go for it. If you are scared of taking casualites when doing siege battles then you probably should just wait them out. Siege assaults are supposed to be costly.
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>>166062753
Don't post anymore
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>>166062753
I always just wait them out. I have terrible memories of medieval 2 ladders/siege towers. Is it any different? Also by the time you build enough equipment to assault the walls you literally might as well wait them out. It's stupid.
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>>166036476
That's red cliff levels of ridiculous.
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>>166062964
Here is a fucking guide on how to not be a fucking pussy. https://youtu.be/2WJhl_actKc?t=1m18s


>>166063048
Use this.

> you literally might as well wait them out

That takes way longer. Use a agent with sabotage walls skill if you are having too much problem.
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>>166062753


>don't be a pussy bro just charge their walls


Some of us like to be a little more refined, using your units special attributes to gain an advantage instead of just charging at things like a retard.
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>>166063048
From my experience, you don't really need those siege weapons. Battering ram is useless if you have monstrous units since they destroy doors faster than the time it takes for the ram to reach the gate, and while the siege towers are useful you can get by just using ladders. You're right that by the them you build siege machines you might as well just wait them out.
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>>166063203
I told you to stop posting
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>>166062753
I'd willingly throw my men against the walls if autoresolve didn't cause you to take zero casualties instead.
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>>166063218
>>166063203
>>166063048
>>166062964
>>166062753
>>166061212
>>166059919

>playing warhammer
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>>166063218
>Some of us like to be a little more refined, using your units special attributes to gain an advantage instead of just charging at things like a retard.

That's what you do when charging though. See >>166063203

>>166063259
t. blown the fuck out-man

>>166063284
Of course. It's when the auto-resolve says you won't win without taking a shitton of casualites.
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>>166063361
>playing
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>>166063203


>stop being a pussy in this strategy videogame

consider suicide my man
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>>166063203
What the fuck is this video?
This is what we all learned back in Medieval Total War likely before some of the people in this thread right now were born.
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>>166063462
It's a way of telling you to get good. It hit a nerve alright.


>>166063476
Yes, but people are still having problems it seems. It's for beginners.
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>>166063396

>That's what you do when charging though.

Yupp, it sure is.
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>>166063596
Why does it say for sieges? Everything in that is learned in normal battles before anyone got to siege battles.
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>>166063596


>posting tutorial videos he's watched on how to do siege battles

speaking of getting gud
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>>166063642
It's about using the right unit on the walls. Having your troops getting destroyed by towers isn't refined.
>>166063659
Because people are retards when it comes to the too simple TWW sieges.


>>166063754
I just had to find a video that would explain it more easily. Don't stand there and get shot at. Go for it. You have to do it differently this time if you really want to do siege battles.
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The white dwarf is so much better than the other lords its not even funny
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>>166064005


never said siege battles were actually hard you dolt, but that the way they go about it in warhammer is objectively illogical and a cheap cop-out by CA, previous games' siege battle were deeper and better by several orders of magnitude
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>>166064502
Well, he is the white dwarf. One good thing the slayer king has over him is the unbreakable trait. Stubborn fuck.


>>166064557
I don't think TWW sieges are interesting either, but I was just trying to tell people to not play them the old way(medieval 2 or whatever). It makes them even worse and it's just stupid anyway. By doing it "my" way you can get some fun out of it. It's bearable at the least.
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>>166064852
White dwarf has unbreakable ability for the whole army
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>>166064986
Wait really? I am pretty sure I have seen the white dwarf run, at least in MP.
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>>166065069
>>166064986
it's a one time use and only lasts for 30 seconds or so, grombrindal can break
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>>166064852

Ungrim is also anti-large. Get him amongst an infantry unit (to protect him from getting knocked around) fighting monsters and he will rip them to shreds.

Probably my favorite LL and he is criminally under appreciated / utilized.
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Which faction in Attila has the least reliance on missile units?
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>>166058851
>TWG equivalent of nice memel
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>>166065939
Proto-Vikings probably.
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>>166058851

>Letting Marius bully Wissenland.
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>>166065950
>>
Going to bed. Remember to also take it easy next thread /twg/.
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>>166066668
So close to those quints...
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>>166065939
slavs
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>>166037873

am i the only one that actually enjoys AoS?

the lore is fucking dumb, but the gameplay itself is pretty nice with matched play, plus most of the new models look sweet.

I mean just checkout that new Lord of Change/ Kairos model
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>>166040004
>Marienburg

It's the Gunbad meme of the Empire campaign. Wissenland is easier to defend, has 3 settlements in close proximity to one another, provides more income, has a master swordsmith, two trade resources and the Nuln foundry.
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>>166066204

>reserve germans in charge of europe


absolutely disgusting
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>>166066987
I avoided Gunbad because I had no idea how valuable it was, and then Karak Kadrin was sieging it for like 20 turns. I fucking trusted them to win it, directed everything south, wiped out every Greenskin province except for Gunbad, where Kadrin lost completely and four Greenskin stacks hit my capital province outta nowhere.

Why is it a bad call to get first though?
The travel time and the fact that they're hardly a threat compared to the main Greenskin faction?

With Marienburg, I haven't played Empire since release, and the stack of 19 pistoliers Marienburg usually has is obviously not going to stop you from stomping them super quick.
And they were more distracted than Wissenland as well.
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>>166029029
>hurr durr wait
stop this meme
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JAVELINMEN
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Playing as Archeon
Listening to the dark passage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J20epLdWYRE

Allied the elves and men, they shall be dammed !
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>>166068016
exactly

>ever buying parts right when they come out

top shelf shit, in literally any facet of our economy, is NEVER worth it. It is purposely NOT worth it so that the people that WASTE money on it feel like they're part of an exclusive club because they WASTED money on a marginal performance boost or some vintage wine that tastes exactly the same as cheap wine or some extremely expensive sports car that doesn't have the slightest bit more utility than a car 10% of it's price
>>
>>166064852


I don't care, it's still shit battles and a serious downgrade from previous titles.
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>>166068296
>want to play a chaos campaign
>battle difficulty slider bugged
>random infantry are as elite as mine
fuck you CA
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>>166068792
I know im probably the minority here but I actually appreciate the new siege battles. They just make more sense then the older ones.
Cities are just too small in the old sieges to be realistic. I appreciate that they have you concentrate on a specific place to launch an assault. In the old battles, you could just neglect the walls all together and concentrate your troops on your main HQ; that doesnt work anymore and it makes more sense.
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>>166070236
>one (ein) wall
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>>166070236
I'm half and half. I think that the simplified maps works, and the city part of the map is more interesting to fight in than the more realistic tight streets we're used to.
That said, infinite range machine gun towers kill it it for me.
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>>166070609
>Infinite range machine gun towers
This is true, even though they probably do more or less the same damage as Attila MG towers
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>>166070609
I like the streets too, but I wish there were just more of them. Higher tier cities need to extend farther back so there's more to fight over other than 3 pathways straight to the city center.
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

I was so close to complete the Grand-Campaign with the Vampire Counts

Around turn 100, had all of Sylvania, Stirland, Averland, Wissenburg, Tlabecland declared war on what's left of the Empire. I was about to siege Altdoft WHEN THE FUCKING WOOD ELVES AND DWARVES DECLARED WAR ON ME.

FUCKING DWARVES MANAGED TO CONFEDERATE EVERY. FUCKIN. CLAN. EVER. and had already destroyed the Greenskins,

THEN THE FUCKING WOOD ELVES ARE OP AS USUAL AND CONFEDERATE AT TURN 10.

FUCKING DWARVES REACHED SILVANIA WITH 6 FULL STACKS, wood elves arrived in Wissenburg with 3. I had 4.

And it's fucking impossible to defeat a dwarf army as the vamps because lol armor on every dwarf ever.

tl;dr FUCK DWARVES. Sure the campaign got even harder lately. I don't remember it to be that hard on Legendary on release.
>>
Anyone else upload campaigns to Total War chronicles? I just tried it, its fun to see your empire from beginning to end. Post your own as well I want to see it.
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>>166071949
Didnt know this existed until now. will be posting.
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>>166069565
>battle difficulty slider bugged
Since when
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>>166072323
Yea I just found out about it too. Actually looks really good for campaign posting.

My Eastern Roman Empire campaign. https://chronicles.totalwar.com/Skillfultree/chapter/104580
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>>166072690
How do you post?
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I will avenge the peasants of Brettonia and vanquish these foul demons from their land ushering in a new age of peace.

Just took the -4 leadership for undead ability on my light wizard too, fuck yeahr
>>
>>166072690
Go to total war chronicles .com and sign in with steam. You have to upload you campaign in game from the the faction summary records tab.
>>
>>166071339
Grave guard with great weapons backed up by crypt horrors is a good composition against armor. Raise dead/flying units fucks with stuntie range.
Invocation of Nehek takes your troops all that much further. Mortis engine subtracts from theirs even further.

You need to address the badlands question at some point. Stunties are obviously right fucking next to you as VC so you need to be prepared.

>>166072607
I've heard last patch but I'm not sure.
I was playing a stuntie campaign before Welves and either it worked there, or it didn't and I didn't fucking notice because playing stunties is akin to braindeath.

But it certainly is now.
Set VH campaign, change battle slider to Normal, go into battle and the enemy will have the VH battle bonuses.
>>
>>166072939
Is for>>166072740
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>>166072690
Damn is there something like this for warhams?
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I may have underestimated this horde of shambling bones and patchy armor. Any tips for armor compositions versus VC?
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>>166074763
Handgunners, Helstroms, and Helblasters will see those skellies to hell. Halberdiers to deal with their cav/monsters, and demigryphs to deal with the big stuff.
Replace units with more early units as needed.
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>>166072929
I still don't understand how people can get stacks of 3 gold chevron troops. Mine can only get up to two silver due to casualties.
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>>166074763
you don't really need the shields.

You might want to start getting some armor peircing. Halberds would be good to fight off their knights now, and monsters later. you'll need it against grave guard and knights. Consider some hand gunners too instead of crossbows. or cannons instead of mortars.
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>>166075008
you can stack bonuses. either general's bonuses or units. for example the empire captain can grant up to 3 bonus experience for new recruits in a province. stacks those and some other sources like provincial edicts, buildings, especially unique buildings.

at one point in my campaign I was recruiting rank 9 artillery and rank 6 infantry from a front line province with no unique resources for those units. sometimes its even better to just replace units instead of leveling them up through combat too.
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>All you need to install is M2TW and Kingdoms installed, dont even need TATW anymore! But dont forget about TATW.. Play it as well!

For the Divide and Conquer submod for Third Age Total War.
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Does upgrading to a foundry lock me out of this or is a mod fucking my shit up?
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>>166074763
You need a way to assassinate their general. It's the easiest way to fuck up vampire armies.
I'm surprised you did so good with mortars. Though I'm also surprised that AI cavalry fucked a player that hard.

>>166075001
Crossbowmen are sufficient if not better against anything that isn't grave guard.
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What factions in Attila are Jewish?
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>>166075361
The base game obviously allows you to upgrade to foundry and keep recruiting them. If you have a foundry and cannot, something is fucked.
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>>166075575
Handgunners also perform better against Knights (black or blood), but the dude asked about AP against VC.
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>>166075670
Himyar
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>>166075575
They always get in through my lines somehow. I never have enough spearmen to cover everything and they find someway through and do MASSIVE DAMAGE.

Also holy sweet jesus lads the horde is coming. I am glad they initiated this instead of just starving me out though.
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>>166075670
WRE and ERE
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>>166075817
Yeah they do, and I kinda dismissed the request for AP based on the screenshot not warranting it.
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>>166076013
thats a lot of skeletons
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>>166076013
use heroes to back up your line, or make your line a bit deeper.

Flagellants are also great against zombies, and good against skeletons.
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>>166076013
better have a general with lightning strike. otherwise you might have to play out all these losing sieges just too keep on weathering them down.
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Can you redeem the Haradrim and lead them away from Sauron's shadow?
>>
>>166076102
Fair enough, I suppose. But I think that handgunners still trade more than respectably against low armor units, even if crossbows would do better.
Although I must confess I prefer free company for early game missiles, since they their unit size means massive damage per volley against low armor units.
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>>166076013


JUST
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>>166076149
What makes flagellants could versus skelets?
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>>166076546
No.
Can't save Rhun, more importantly.
Though it is always fun in TA to backstab mordor when they finally crush Gondor.

>>166076664
Yeah I prefer gun units a lot more myself. Free company are based as well, I have good success with them in multiplayer, but I haven't actually played an Empire campaign since the DLC. I was busy with others. Now I'm waiting for a patch to fix certain shit before I commit to a new one.
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>>166076857
Ah well. Backstabbing Mordor have it's own event like "Now is the time for Rhun to rise!" or something like that? I like the game recognizing when I do something cool.
>>
New thread
>>166076949
>>166076949
>>166076949
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>>166076839
Skeletons aren't that strong attack they're purely a tarpit unit. but flagellents have high melee attack and no defense.

Also Flagellents are unbreakable the fear or terror of undead units won't affect them and they'll hold the line until they're all dead or victorious.

They cannot go up against grave guard though, or they'll die.
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>>166076956
Not that I recall. Granted the last time I played TA was before Arnor was a thing in vanilla.
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If I kill the pope in AoC will I no longer be excommunicated?
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>>166037447
>>166037873
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