/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

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I WILL MARRY, LOVE AND HAND HOLD WITH THE DOLL!

>>165927095
love you jon x

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>>165927321
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How do I git gud at BB?
I've nevere played such games before.
Paarl completely wrecks me. Also, where do I farm health potions?

>>165927371
fuck off chinatsu you evil cunt

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>>165927462
wow

>>165927470
shill
thanks for letting me know though

Can someone help me out with defiled hotdogggo?

pass: bbg

>>165927795
Need help with the exact same boss, summon for summon?

hows my hmls for my 25/50 str/arc build (made it as autistic as i can in about 3 hours): ATK up 19.5% phys 7.8 atk vs kin down 10.1%, atk up 21.5% add phys +15 atk vs kin down 11.3%, atk up +21.5% boosts rally 2.8% increase stamina cost 3,2%

>>165927470
Reminder that this is a general for BB. If you wanna shill Nioh make a bread on /v/.

>>165927470
Is Nioh any good?

>>165927795
>hotdogggo
>not fire doggo
get out

>nioh shitposter is even in /bbg/ now
AWAY AWAY

>>165927841
I've been ringing, you there?

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Does anyone have that shooped image of the boss health bar where the name text is "Kos, or some say Kosm"?

>>165927870
i know. there is a thread on /v/ but i wanted to let you guys know there will be a demo out if you were interested in nioh but couldnt play the demos last time
>>165927935
i like it a lot but you can try it out for yourself this weekend

>unironically doing hintertomb

Nioh is going to be a garbage clunky souls ripoff

Why the fuck did you make a new thread? The last one didn't even hit the bump limit.

is there any reason to do hintertomb other than to be hipster trash?

>>165928818
It already is. Combat is pretty decent, the bow works very well, don't care for the movement or the meme-tier lethality where you die in 2-3 hits and everyone else takes 5-6 at least, which exists solely for hardcore elitists who define difficulty as quality. Also, no atmosphere. One of the most important part of Souls and Bloodborne is atmosphere.

>>165928507
>>165928909
>doesn't want madman's set

>tfw to smart too like NiiO

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Maria-tan..

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>>165928379
yeh

>>165927095
>beat game for the first time

>God damn, what a great game, I'll go back through with a pure arcane build this time

>pick the threaded cane for variety

>suck shit

>beat head against central yharnam and the cleric beast for like 4 hours

>"Fuck this, I'll go die to gasgoine for variety"

>Kill him first try

Wh-what

>>165927470
Oh hey, thanks, I'll probably try it out.

>>165929390
Yes, and?

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>>165927442
Gitgud by changing your L1 with circle button via the accessibility menu, also by practicing the game because you will only get better over time. Farming for health potions can be done by getting a bunch of blood echos and buying potions with them. Chalice dungeons are a good source of blood echos, but you might not be able to fully utilize the dungeons this early in the game.
the L1/Circle swap is purely experimental and boils down to personal preference
May the good blood guide your way

>>165927095
>John grimshaw
my nig

I've only done chalice gems on one character and it's an arcane wheel twink.

I'm gonna make another character with chalice gems. What should I make?

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>>165929242
wew

Can I equip multiple lvl 3 metamorphosis runes? Can I even more than one in the inventory?

>>165930906
No, unless there's a glitch I don't know about.

>>165930906
You can equip any rune you find, there's no pre-requisits save for actually having the rune tool from Hemwick. You can equip level 1-3 runes and they stack. Of each type of rune (metamorphosis, deep sea, arcane lake, etc.) there's three levels (I think there may be one or two rune types with four levels). You can equip and unequip runes in the dream any time, they're not permanent.

What is the best secondary effect on a gem? Flat damage?

So I want to nab the Logarius Wheel for my Arcane build. Can I just kill Alfred in Cathedral Ward for it?

>>165932296
ATK vs open foes UP, most definitely.

If you have two of them at ~5%, it turns your weapon into a monstrous critical hit machine. You do like 40% more damage on counter hits vs regular hits

>>165932384
if you can beat him, sure

>>165932516
The wiki says I have to wait for him to move to his second location? Also, how tough is he?

What do you buy with your blood echoes, /bbg/?

>>165932592
yeah I guess you do have to wait until Amelia or you'll just get fire paper.

I fought him at the end of his quest when he had the wheel and he was really fucking strong. Never fought him in cathedral ward; over there he has a Kirkhammer and he's supposed to be much easier. My bad, I thought he would be like he was when he had the wheel

>>165932864
Everything

>>165932919
this I always 600 bullets/vials and then I spend money on any other thing until my storage is full.

>>165932864
I wont stop leveling up one of my characters until I get 99 VIT, 99 ARC, 40 END and 50 of everything else. It seems extremely pointless to level anything else beyond that.

I already have 99/99 + 99/99 of every item you buy with echoes, and I'm starting to get to that point even with consumables you gotta buy at the insight shop (just from finding them)

why is it considered preferable to use two cold abyssals and only one fire/bolt/arcane ATK UP gem when converting a physical weapon to elemental? I thought the scaling effect can only do so much past a certain point? Why wouldn't a second percent-based gem be better for damage over a second arcane scaling abyssal?

>>165927225
you mean to say that ds3 used a shit ton of assets from bloodporne?

Someone help me out with defiled doggo? pw bbg

>>165929329
people have trouble with cleric beast?

>>165933861
You will never be able to beat it, anime-kun, just accept it.

>>165927442
>Also, where do I farm health potions?

>Spawn at the Great Bridge (Cleric beast)
>Go to the shortcut house to your right, killing the ogre and werewolves.
>Kill the two guys on the 2nd floor of the house, and the dude on the 1st floor (wheelchair guy too if you need 4 bullets).
>Exit the house and kill the 2 ogres, take the elevator down to Gascoigne.
>Go under the bridge, kill the pig, go back up behind him.
>Kill shield dude and Fireball ogre, his fireball killed the dudes on the bridge, if you see glowing items go check on them (I usually don't, too far off).
>Kill the two wolfmen before Gascoigne, you can backstab the first one easily if you walk slowly.
>Kill yourself by jumping down the ladder coming up from the pig.

Echoes will be at the top of the ladder/close to the wolfmen, you respawn at Cleric beast and you get around 30/40 vials each run iirc.

>>165933508
Because it does more damage this way.
It's true that scaling will do no good past a certain point, that's why you only put one Heavy Abyssal when doing STR builds, but most weapons have poor arcane scaling so another Abyssals is preferable. Notice that arcane weapons like wheel and moon sword don't require them.

>>165933959
I'm a different person though, and I have defeated him before but my save ggot corrupted

>>165929778
Needs to be updated to say two weapons with the Bloodletter being a thing.

fucking cannon undead giant is such a cheap asshole

he just shoots his own feet when I'm near him or attacking, and spams his cannon when I'm not. Nowhere is safe. I hardly have time to stop sprinting just to take a potion without getting clipped by one of the explosions

>>165935416
>the shockwave smash that hits behind him

I fucking hate when they give smashes aoe.

I HATE it anon.

Starting a BL4 run, any tips?

>>165936006
>I fucking hate when they give smashes aoe.
try playing let it die :^)

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>there are hunters who raise END above 15

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>>165937387
>>there are hunters

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What if Bloodborne 2 was exclusive to switch?

>>165936351
It's going to hurt
>>165937547
What if you never posted again

>>165937387
>15
Might as well stop at 13 if you're not going to go to 22. I bet you level vit all the way to 50.

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First girl character, how did I do?

>>165938027
She's got a big ol' mouth

>>165938027
Bruce Jenner?

>>165938136
HAHA

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>>165938027
Ain't got shit on my Lucy Liu

>>165938243
Absolutely disgusting

>>165938068
>>165938136
>>165938224

Fuck

back to character customization I go

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>>165938027
>>165938243
at least its not as bad as mine
>tfw too intelligent to make a girl that doesnt look masculine

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>>165938027
>>165938243
>>165938503

>>165938394
Just put a Yharnam Hunter hat or something similar on it

>>165938243
>>165938503
Thanks for making me feel better about mine lol.

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>>165938394
Don't feel bad, this was my first and last

>>165938503
Very nice

>>165938748
Doesn't look bad honestly maybe I'm just weird though since I thought mine looked good

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>>165939050
Good luck ever creating a decent looking female in BB.
My flat mate helped me create my first character. Right after we had Wendy's.

wow the holy moonlight sword with kinhunter / beasthunter gems absolutely devastates beast / kin bosses

>>165939340
Holy fuck lol

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>>165939351
Who would have thought kin/beast hunter gems were effective against kin/beasts.

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>>165939482
And just when you think you have the character creator down, you think you make something nice.

This is probably my "best" female looking character. I hate this character creator so much. Thank god the in game fashion is top notch.

>>165939340
This looks like Lucy's American football waifu, just better done

>>165939953
Like I said, that was my first ever character when I was new to the game. Didn't spend to long on it, but my friend wanted to make a ginger. So we did.

they put so many weapons in the DLC, and some of them are really fun. as someone playing through this game for the first time, im kinda annoyed that i stuck so closely to the vanilla weapons (basically only used cleaver/axe) and have only just now (as the game draws to a close) have got a taste of all the new shit, but i guess it basically forces me to do a NG+ run at least...

this saw-blade thing feels way too strong...

>>165939737
they're usually outclassed by other gems on most weapons

on HMS though it's like having a 32.6% or a 27.7% nourishing gem

>>165940094
>32.6% nourishing

I fucking wish.

>>165940036
Yet you outdid him on your first try. There's a source of pride for you

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>>165938027
How's mine?

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>>165938027
Have I had a warped view of my characters?

Is my old man good atleast?

>>165931510
every rune has 3 types apart from communion and formless oedon which have 5, and guidance which only has two (third may exist but has never been found). you cannot equip the same rune more than once even if you have multiple copies, but the same rune of different strengths can be equipped in all slots ie you can use communion +3/4/5 for an extra 12 vials

>>165940582
I like it

>>165940815
meant for>>165930906

>>165940807
This is good

>>165937387
I like diving in hard with long combos, not poking in and out.

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>>165940807
ye that's p cool
Bloodborne is far kinder to male characters in terms of appearance

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>>165940582
>not being a Pthumerian white

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at least Lucy Liu can get scrubs to run into the wheel.

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>>165940582
Looks fat as fuck

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last one from me
off to work now lads

phantom range?

>>165940250
it would be OP as fuck

>>165941470
I feel bad for him.

>>165941006
>>165941027
Thank goodness

Anyone else here who played Bloodborne before dark souls?

It's so weird, I managed to ring the first bell, but I lost motivation and stopped

>>165942579
Looks too faggy and frail and would be cowering in a corner instead of hunting beasts.
I don't like/10

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>>165942579
is that a jojo reference?

>>165942696
Its hard to go back to Dark Souls after Bloodborne desu

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I just noticed there's no Keineth in my folder, can someone help me out?

>>165942715
she just beat vicar amelia with a +1 threaded cane fucking idot
>captcha: vcock caster

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>>165942857

is it worth using lost bowblade / chikage instead of the normal ones? (I only use blood forms of both)

>>165943203
answer that yourself, if you choose wrong then youre retarded

>>165943626
I don't want to waste blood stone chunks and am quite new to the game so any help would be appreciated

>>165943730
Get LOST :^)

>>165943937
?

>>165943730
yes the lost version is best then

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>>165942857

>>165943730
Lost for the circular gem slot

>>165943730
Then why don't you do the math? Why not read the OP if you wanna know something?

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>>165944079
il show you my circular gem slot

:^)
:^)
...:^)

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>>165944056

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>>165942974
>>165944056
>>165944287

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>>165927227
More power to you, anon.

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>>165944348
>e-celebs

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Has Amelia's prayer always been audible throughout and even after her boss fight?
I played on launch and never noticed it if so.


I've been resonating and helping out at her boss fight for the past two days and I've noticed I can hear her prayer being said over and over during the fight and after until I return to my world.

>>165944697
Looks like a bug, please record

>>165944697
ye, sounds like a bug. pretty sure she stops it as soon as she goes awoo

besides, best Amelia is church hunter Amelia.

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>>165944348
fixed for you

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>>165944781
okay, will post link to youtube here shortly

>>165944958
what's the signifigance of these images?

the hunter is always alone and then the other image posts cross overs/cooperators?

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>>165945068


Nice observation but I've just been pulling them from random out of my wallpaper folder.

>>165945260
Fucking lame.

post more

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>>165944697
>>165944781
>>165944864
>>165944958
>>165945068
>>165945260
>>165945534

Here's some footage of the bug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Y_HFELlgs

>>165945898
Awesome

>>165943974
ARE YOU KIDDING
I SAID GET LOST AS IN LEAVE BBG BUT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE IT AS AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION
IF YOU'RE USING BLOOD ATTACKS ONLY THEN YOU WANT THE LOST VARIATION

>>165945898
Neat.

>>165945260
i want

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>>165944348
>filthy frank post-joji

Wheel still does blunt in tricked mode?

>>165947470
yes

>make a game that requires precise inputs
>tie game logic to framerate
>create an area with tons of particle effects
>the final boss of said area has even more particle effects
>framerate drops to the single digits
A few hundred years ago this would have been grounds for execution

>>165944958
Do you have a big version of just the Eileen one?

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>>165945898
Nice find

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>bloody crow of cainhurst

>>165945898
When I help someone to kill Gehrman in co-op and the Moon Presence appears the music never starts for some reason, maybe it's a similar bug.

>>165948421
>not gud enough to take him down easily

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>>165948421
Just parry bro

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>>165944958
>you will never cuddle Tarkus

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>>165948421
>tfw I like fighting him

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>>165948421
Poison knife and cheese the stair leash.

Otherwise you can parry him

>>165945898
Holy Kosm that entire fight was weird

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>>165948885


how so?

>i missed 4 molotovs at point blank range

>get the game
>read about a secret ending
>have to eat umbilical cords first
>wat
>I kill an old man and a squid
>I become the squid
>the end
What just happened? Was that the secret, you become a squid?

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I apologize to everyone suffering with their female characters.

I actually like the way my lady hunter looks.

Sure, this character creator is ridiculously hard to make work.
Sure, it took me nearly 6 straight hours to make something I was satisfied with.
Sure, I finalized several characters only to scrap them when I saw how different they looked in-game versus the creator.
Sure, I played through the entire game on one particular character and then deleted it because there was a tiny problem with the mouth that drove me insane.
But goddamn it, I got something I liked and I'm never wearing any hat other than Maria's so everyone can see how much fucking work I put into this lady.

Who knows, though. There might be something wrong with her that I've stopped noticing by this point.
Tell me what you think, /bbg/.

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>>165949532

>augur of ebrietas can parry
huh, neat

>>165949281
The chanting and that fucky grab she did, probably the molotov thing too

>>165949608
Please tell me you didn't actually sit in one place for 6 hours and fiddle with dials to make a virtual waifu. You could have spent that time playing.

>>165949532
You did what Byrgenwerth and the Healing Church ultimately failed to do, you ascended to Great Onehood. But was it worth it? Abandoning your humanity? what are the implications? We'll never know. That's the horror.

>>165949608
Looks okay, take another shot without the lantern.

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>just ran through an entire lower root chalice
>1 ritual blood

>>165950071
it can also backstab

>>165951214
pretty nice, I just used it on Gascoigne for that extra damage and those sweet parries, he was btfo very fast.

>>165949281
I would love to use this as my wallpaper if the artist fixed it up it

it looks very nice in some spots and just looks like scribbles on others, like the dead executioners arm guards

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>>165950369
6 hours was an exaggeration, yes.
It was still over one hour, which was probably one hour more than it could ever be worth.
>>165950489
Dunno if that makes it better or worse.

Should I invest rocks into Church Pick? Something tells me it's actually a pretty good weapon when maxed out.

>>165951789
There's a much better version, Idk why that guy posted that one

>>165949608
Face looks like a round potato and she's a bit cross-eyed.

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>>165951789

>>165952140
burial blade for life

>>165952140
Church Pick is fucking god tier, Kin Killer: The Weapon

>>165951941
Face is a bit roundish but not bad. Better than most hunters so I'd say it's fine.

what the fuck, the cramped caskets in the FRCs do as much damage as super heavy boss attacks like amygdala's jump

I'm trying to farm one for beasthunter / kinhunter gems that's in the same room as this fucking kirkhammer hunter, and most of the time I die it's from the casket not the hunter

>>165952237
much much much better


that helmet on the ground needs some work though

>>165952554
Hey, I'll take that.
I'm never making another custom character in one of these games again, though. This was awful.

>>165953212
Reminds me of when I spent probably an hour or two on the DaS2 when it came out on ps3 making a waifu. I took a picture on my phone (which I then deleted at some point) and since it had no slider saving, well lets say it was some kind of miracle and I was never able to reproduce it.

I am still mad because it was some A grade shit, and I fucking hate slider-fu on souls games. I usually use something close to a preset on most, and play a girl or guy depending how they look. Naturally was a guy in all but Das1 and that one waifu on 2.

At least with the ability to save slider/preset its a bit more justified now, but it was just 100% not worth the goddamn time on the ones without. I say this from experience. Easier to just pick and play, and use something to cover the head.

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>mfw i can never get to the old workshop consistently

>>165951941
S L I D E R S
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Good to see people are still sacrificing themselves to the doll in the old workshop after all this time

700hrs in
First time dying from Amy's saliva
I feel like trash
AMA

>>165955141
here you go friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w0iDRnq00U

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>>165955141
>can't wait to get to nightmare frontier for some spooky Lovecraftian creations
>it's pvp hell and twinks run amok with gems
I hated my first play through.

>>165955760
Sir, is it true you have to have eyes on the inside in order to rid yourself of this beastly idiocy?

>>165952468
Allegedly it's serrated as well
Also holy
It's like that weapon was made to shit on everything

>>165955760
i still get bodied by Ebrietas charge attack 400 hours in

most bullshit move from ever put in these games

>>165955993
Well I just killed her so hopefully I've gained my eyes

>>165956026
But does it have cool sound effects like the burial blade, huh?

>>165952717
I know your pain, anon
If it helps, I always draw aggro on the casket then run into the previous hallway
The casket seems to give chase much faster than the hunter and I can usually kill it and get the drop before just letting the hunter push my shit in with the brick-on-a-stick

>>165956117
I'm okay with it, I can consistently dodge it

>>165955870
not playing offline your first playthrough

nothing takes you out of the immersion more than some fuck appearing in your world

>>165955664
Not around the PS4 anymore, sorry.
If you really do want them, I'll try to put something together by late tonight.

Alright bbg, I'm finishing my first run, did dlc, just have wet nurse and whatever is after that left. Working through this fucking defiled chalice to get towards whatever is needed for the platinum, defiled amy is aids. But I have no online.

The main point of this is to ask, what should I use for my next run. I used hunter axe / pizza cutter for most this run (in that order, so it was like first third axe, two thirds pizza)

thinking of either a bloodletter or str/arcane build next (for tonitris/HMS) and not sure which (I cant test out bloodletter moveset on my current guy sadly)

also does the very first run have a forced ending? Reading the >fextra
wiki makes it seem like you cant get an ending choice on the first run you do.

>>165956221
No, but you can always yell SCHWING every time you swing it
It's almost the same

>>165956221
Fuck your schwing and split damage
Pick grinds against the floor

>>165956450
>wanting to dull your blade instead of gracefully killing mobs

>>165956651
>grace
L M A O
I bet you regret killing Ebrietas too

>>165956651
Don't talk shit nerd, I know damn well what your L2 does

>>165956840
I don't, she needed to die. And I did it gracefully

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>one hole in their mask thing
>left side
>Valtr's bucket is the same
Did I discover how to unlock guidance 3

>>165956848
it goes into the enemy if you dont do it willy nilly

>>165957104
Almost
Now you just have to get to depth 5 hintertomb

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>>165957104
Also why isn't this at the very least a hunter tool
That maybe could have caused rapid poison or something

FUCK. Eileen just kept getting in my way and ten Hemyk killed her. Fucking dumbass should have let me help.

>>165956253
I'm doing the one for radial beast/kinhunters and the glyph I'm in there is just one castket and one kirkhammer hunter, but the hunter is watching the door and the casket is patrolling on the other side of this raised platform he's standing on so aggroing the casket without aggroing the hunter seems impossible.

Since he's gotta go down every time, I've gotten killing him down to a science, though. Mostly I just stab him repeatedly with my untricked HMS R2's, especially when he pulls out the hammer. I aggro and kill the casket with the same move after he's done. But yeah this is not easy farming. If I dont immediately run away from the lamp when I respawn I get chased into the bonus area by fucking red spiders too

>>165937547
Considering its an asset of Sony it never will be, so stop sharing your shitty dystopian fantasies.

Why didnt you faggots tell me about BOM before?
Ive done every other build apart from a skill build and these are insane at low level

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>>165958779
Wait until you find a wooden shield.

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I almost feel bad for him.

>>165937547
>What if it was a switch exclusive
>with that lettering at the bottom saying "Sony Computer Entertainment Inc"

>>165959345
tonitrus best weapon

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>>165958957
>see someone with BoM
>pull out wooden shield
>pallasch in the other hand
>on a blt build

>>165958065
>HMS
I'm gonna guess you're farming beasthunter gems for boomhammer?

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>>165957606
THERE'S THE FUCKING FLAIL

>>165956326
Ye m8 put somethin' together if you can. I need a fresh start into BB and playing a QT hunter sounds neat.

>>165957326
>implying it's in hintertomb
But fuck man. Where else could it be?


I need to make a max level spelunker. Is ARC good for spelunking or nah?

>>165959463
What is bolt paper

>>165959834
25/50 str/arc is best for spelunking
Dump a bunch into end as well, very handy for PvE

>>165937547

>switch logo
>sony copyright credits

>>165960065
>25/50 str/arc
Using HMS, tools, maybe parasite? I guess LHB with the buff?

Which skill weapon should i use my second blood rock?

I am using the saif and will probably go to+10 with it, should i go with BB, the pick or the rakuyo?

>>165960028
70 bolt damage, as opposed to 700

>>165959559
nah, I'm getting them for the HMS itself, and for the wheel and any other split damage weapons

ATK UP against beasts / kin is still ATK UP, and +27% ATK UP on the HMS is god tier considering the best nourishing gems you can get are +21.5% (usually).

Of course it will only be good for certain enemies / bosses. But those bosses it will absolutely destroy, like Laurence and Darkbeast, HBLB and Ebriatas. I do wish Amygdala was considered Kin

Anyone want to fight Orphan of Kos with me? My pw is bbg123 and I'm right outside the fog gate

>>165960196
Wheel or HMS for watchers, tonitrus for ayys, boomhammer for beasts, although you could just use saw weapons if you wanna be boring, but I prioritize fun over efficiency for spelunking

>>165960265
Pick is the best for PvE out of the 3, Rakuyo is ez mode PvP and Burial Blade is the most stylish. I'd go with Pick, it's nice for PvP as well.

>>165960709
lmao no

>>165960764
Neat. But I think spelunking as an Ayybroccoli would be fun, but difficult. Never used the parasite in PvE.

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I don't know...

>Old thread only had 718 replies

>>165952717
>cramped caskets in the FRCs
wat

>>165962334
It's fun at first but it gets old quickly
Most fun you can have with broccoli mode is spooking new players on a twink in areas of the game before they're in the know

>>165942696
I played lords of the Fallen and then bloodborne, hooooo boy you couldn't imagine the difference. The combat felt so fluid and responsive, but it didn't feel to easy either. I really couldn't go back to lords of the Fallen even if I was asked to, it's just such a chore to kill anything, all you do is Turtleup and wait for a 1 second window to swing your slow-ass great sword then Turtleup again.

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>>165963843
They're rare.

>>165944697
I read some where that its an insight thing, where having a certain amount let's you hear her prayer over the screams

>>165963843
They're down there if you lucky or unlucky enough. Supposedly, the Garden of Eyes (fly-things at Byrgenwerth) and Shadow of Yharnam are down there, too

>>165960709
You still need help, anon? I can be there in a few minutes, just gotta switch games.

>>165963989
>downloaded it when it was free
>killed the first boss
Never again

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>>165963843
It might still be up if anyone wants to go to this chalice.

>>165964291
I wonder what other rare things are lurking in the chalice dungeons, waiting to be found
>layer 4 altar of despair, allows you to immediately revive the boss
>queen yharnam as a basic bitch mob
>guidance 3
Imagine

>>165965881
Wandering HMPHs are down there, waiting in FRCs.
Good luck.

>>165947870
I've only had the game drop frames in a significant way twice. Both were in chalice dungeons, so I didn't care. Sounds like you care too much or you treat your ps4 like trash.

>>165966268
It's pretty much only one boss fight: loran camera beast
The framerate dips severely hamper my ability to dodge through the AoE, and tying game logic to frame rate is fucking amateur
At the very least they should have shut off the loran particle effects for that fight.

>>165964291
I wonder if they drop specific gems, like the caskets?

Do these ultra-rare slug things drop gems?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlm-FBB1PtM

>>165965881
>guidance 3
There are no pickups/drops/treasures added with the DLC to be found anywhere in the chalice dungeons. All you've got are DLC weapon variants added to the dungeon bath messengers shop. The people who wrote the guide just made that shit up about finding guidance 3 in a depth 5.

>>165966208
Things I've encountered an mobs through my 700+ hours
>Parasitic eye things
>pthumerian faggot
>abhorrent deceased
>shadows
Not once have I seen caskets

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>>165966680
forgot pic. These slug monsters

>>165966680
>>165966857
Yeah, they drop gems. But they're considered basic enemies, so they don't receive any rating modifiers and can only drop Rating 17 at most, unless buffed by a red aura, in which case the highest they can go is Rating 19.

>>165966794
I've never seen them either, but there's enough evidence to show they're there. They're exceedingly rare enemies only spawning in FRCs. And I've never once seen >>165966857 more commonly known as the Chalice Mole.
I didn't do many FRCs, but I'll be doing more soon, and expect to see all these great friends.
>>165966680
So where's Guidance 3 supposed to be, then? No one has had any better ideas.

>>165966964
I've always wondered about that aura shit

>>165967046
>So where's Guidance 3 supposed to be, then? No one has had any better ideas.
either it's hidden *extremely* well somewhere in the main DLC areas, or it is not available anywhere because it is bugged

>>165967275
It *is* bugged. It was supposed to be in the dungeons, but got switched to a Great One's Wisdom. Or maybe I'll just Make Contact everywhere in the Hamlet until I get something.

Martyr anyone? Ringing at fog and pass is bbg

>>165967260
Basically, chalice dungeons are assigned base ratings, which are a min/max pool of possible gem ratings that can be dropped. But, this number is only the base.
Certain enemies in the chalice dungeons add a modifier onto the base rating. For example, chalice bosses, referring to L3 or L4 bosses specifically, add +3 to the base rating pool. Red auras add +2, thus increasing the min/max values of the rating pool.

Let's take Merciless Watchers in an FRC Depth 5. Already, Depth 5 dungeons have base ratings of 15-17, meaning that the lowest possible gem rating you can get is a 15. That's just without the modifier.
Since Watchers are a floor boss, as in L1 and L2, they get +2 to their rating pool, increasing it to 17-19. That's exactly why Watchers drop gem ratings between 17-19. You can observe the same thing with end chalice bosses, which add +3 instead. increasing the min/max rating pool from 15-17 to 18-20.

I want to some experimenting, though. I know NPC enemy hunters in chalice dungeons get +1 to their rating pools, bringing them from 15-17 to 16-18. But, enemy hunters are also affected by red auras, meaning that it's possible to get them to drop an abyssal because their total rating modifier would be +3, 18-20--same exact rating pool as an end chalice boss.

Is there a boss that drops tempering abyssals with doubled secondary, or am I better off just farming Andrew W.K?

>>165966670
I noticed some frame issues there, but nothing that I found particularly frustrating. Of course it seems everyone has a different opinion of this games framerate.

>>165967780
>enemy hunters
>Red aura
I don't think I've seen this
I don't really do much spelunking though either

>>165967774
You forgot to share your level too.

>>165967904
Usually I fight him on an arc build so I just shit all over him before he can do much about it
This time I'm on a bl57 character with only 25 str, so I guess it's time to git gud.
At least I'll have an easier time with him in the future once I learn him well enough

>>165968047
No one besides you care about his level.

>>165964163
>>165964291
>>165965758
Well I'll be damned

>>165967820
You're best farming Andrew W.K. Chalice madmen have doubled secondary effects, but BLB doesn't. Best you can do IIRC is a 21% primary for Rating 18 or a 20.3% primary for Rating 17, and either 17.6 Rating 18 or 18.2 Rating 17 flat physical secondaries.
>>165967959
It surprised me when it first happened, but I once had a Tomb Prospector in the same room as a Ritemaster, and he was affected by the red aura buff.
But, retard me closed the chalice upon completion, and now I can only hope to find another convenient placement of enemies like that to give that non-L3/L4 abyssal a spin.

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>>165966794
>abhorrent beast mob
no fucking way.
I need proof. If he exists maybe he drops some good SKL scaling gems, like up to +50?

>>165966964
Can any enemy be buffed by a red aura? Is it randomized?

Also, do roaming bosses drop good gems ever? Undead Giant mobs always just give me like 1 shitty twin blood stone shard. And I noticed that if you kill a roaming HMPH, he will not come back if you reload the area - he's like a hunter in the waking world. IIRC he didn't drop anything interesting either, out of the 2 of them that I've killed

>>165968146
Anyone who doesn't want to do 100 damage a swing with top tier chalice gems cares about level
Downscaling a shit

>>165968146
Only shitters DON'T care. You're not a shitter, are you?

>>165968240
Exactly. People that know how the game works knows that level is still important.

>>165967774
Still need help anon?

>>165968223
He's just chilling in layer 3
frc ailing loran
6jcbqsk2

Anyone want to help a level 21 fight the decendent in the first Paul newman chalice?
Just want to co-op if anything

Pass if bbg

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>>165968223
You can also come across BSB mobs. All pretty neat stuff.
>If he exists maybe he drops some good SKL scaling gems, like up to +50?
I think Keeper of the Old Lords drops scaling gems, not Abhorrent Beast. But, roaming bosses also receive a rating pool modifier of +1, similar to NPC hunters, so you'd get 16-18 rating gems regularly. The highest from an Abhorrent Beast mob is a 21% Bolt primary, and a 31.5 Odd secondary. Don't remember if AB's secondary effect doubles like a Chalice Madman's does.
>Can any enemy be buffed by a red aura? Is it randomized?
I'm actually not sure. I'd like to test out on roaming bosses, but I've definitely seen enemy hunters get buffed. If you have a Ritekeeper in the vicinity, one of the those tall, lanky guys surrounded by Pthumerians, you can give it a try.
Though, if you can buff roaming bosses, you'd potentially get 18-20 end chalice boss rating pools on lower layers, which is neat, but not too efficient seeing as many of these roaming bosses do not respawn anyways.
>Also, do roaming bosses drop good gems ever?
Good gems, yeah. But, you'll get better by going for the boss versions due to the higher rating modifiers. Again, you can try buff aura shenanigans, but you know.

>>165968368
Maybe I'm, who knows.

Wait a minute, rite keepers buff increases gem rating?
I wonder if you could lure one over too the boss door for keeper and get a skill scaling abyssal

tips for Micolash NG+3, he instakills me with those stars

Whys /bbg/ dead and why am i not getting any summons?
Is a new dlc out for ds3 or something?

>>165969643
I think if you stick close to him he won´t use ACB.

>>165969609
Ritekeepers apply red aura buffs to enemies, and red auras are a +2 in the base rating modifier. So, if you have an enemy that normally drops gems between Ratings 15-17 (the standard base rating pool for Depth 5), the +2 is applied and increases the max/min values of the pool. Think of it like graph transformations, where adding a +2 to f(x) shifts the graph up two spaces. That 15-17 drop pool is now 17-19.
>I wonder if you could lure one over too the boss door for keeper and get a skill scaling abyssal
Unfortunately, a cool anon some time ago tried to do something similar with Merciless Watchers to possibly get an abyssal Rating 20, but apparently the Ritekeeper would not approach the boss door another anon was baiting it towards.
Who knows, though? Maybe somebody can pull it off.

>>165969643
I can help if you need

>>165969643
Shoot to stop ACB, stunlock+Beast Roar, cheese with Poison Knives/other projectiles when he teleports through a mirror and you're above him.

>>165969913
Maybe people are pre-downloading the final Nioh Demo.

>>165970018
Maybe have another person beast roar them over to the door, then try to beast roar them into the boss room right as it opens
I know enemies can sneak into a boss room the first time you enter, it may be possible to force one in

>>165968829
My bad its hot dog

>>165970319
That's what I was thinking too. It was a couple of months ago, but I think Beast Roar is actually what that one anon was doing to push the Ritekeeper against the door.
But, I like the other option as well. I've had a red spider force its way through the boss door, and it's possible to have a Ritekeeper do the same. The problem is that they're nowhere near as relentless in chase as the spiders are, but I think it's definitely worth a try.

>>165970612
Hot Dog and the following boss are easier solo.

>>165969167
>many of these roaming bosses do not respawn anyways
Wait what
That's fucking lame

>>165970612
At BL21 you should be more than capable of beating Hotdog.

>>165969167
Thanks. I just found this page too, that says you can also find a roaming hot dog and a roaming pthumerian elder:
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/11/roaming-bosses-in-chalice-dungeons.html

But yeah it sounds like if you could find, say, a bone ash hunter with a red buff on a layer 3, you could farm radial abyssals of almost any gem type from them (excluding the types added with the DLC). Like sharp / pulsing / radiant / dirty / murky / striking / fools / poormans / beast-kinhunter abyssals. They seem to drop a lot of off-shapes too.

A buffed Blood Starved Beast mob on L3 could potentially drop abyssal blood ATK UP gems and abyssal bloodtinge scaling gems, too.

everyone get to spelunking!

>>165970815
>>165970873

I can beat him you fools. I said i want to co-op.

>>165971108
Then Co-Op something it makes sense to co-op, or a random FRC root chalice.

>>165971312

You are a fucking idiot. Im level 21 and not even bothered to kill Amelia yet. Where the fuck do you think im going to be getting FRC from?
Fucking kill yourself

>>165971108
>can beat every boss solo
>can't beat crushing loneliness

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I kind of feel like spelunking. Anyone have a new FRC or want me to open one? Feeling like a Lower Loran myself.

>>165971439
I'd hate to side with the namefag, but if you're sure you can kill Hotdog but want co-op, that makes me assume you have other characters, with which you could co-op stuff "worth co-oping".

>>165971439
If you just want co-op then use one of your other characters instead of trying to save face while begging to be carried through an easy boss.

>>165971514
Co-Op != making friends

>>165971082
Yeah, the real kicker to it all is that you can potentially get these Rating 20 abyssals BEFORE layers 3 or 4, the layers you'd normally get them on. A chalice depth's rating pool doesn't increase as the dungeon gets deeper, meaning that it will always be 15-17, and modified only by the specific source of the gem.
It wouldn't matter what layer the Bone Ash Hunter is on, since she'll always have a 16-18 rating pool (NPC hunters get +1), and the red aura will always be a +2 modifier regardless. Layers don't have rating modifiers of their own, and the only thing that actually sets a chalice boss's rating pool to 18-20 Abyssal territory is the fact that end chalice bosses have a +3 modifier. You can get the same sum of modifiers on any other layer, potentially.
I'd really like to find out if boss mobs can be buffed, though.

>>165970018
Do all ritekeepers cast the buff, or is it only the ones who patrol around with their dedicated posse of skinnies? Are they casting it when they raise their skull cup up into the air and make that big poofing purple explosion?

>>165971659

>save face
I like low level co-oping. Thats why i help fags with Gasgoine and dont level up for a few days. Carry faggots like you through the game who struggle with BSB

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>>165971514
Fuck dude.

>>165971834
>Do all ritekeepers cast the buff, or is it only the ones who patrol around with their dedicated posse of skinnies?
Only the ones who patrol around with the posse, that's right. I'm just mixing and throwing names all around, so sorry about the confusion. The squatting fellows that cast arcane/fire projectiles don't cast red aura buffs.
>Are they casting it when they raise their skull cup up into the air and make that big poofing purple explosion?
Yep, you being spotted triggers the Ritekeeper into casting the red aura and sending the posse after you. It's an AoE cast in nature, which is why other enemies in the immediate area are affected by the buff as well. If it goes through walls, though, it may be possible to cast a red aura beyond boss gates.

>>165971652
If you end up going spelunking post glyph

>>165971659
>Co-op != making friends
Says you
Most of the people on my friends list are from random co-op

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>>165971514

>>165972924
I hope you aren't implying people on your friendslist in these games are real friends.

>>165973297
If they are not real, then neither are you

Alright guys, bloodletter or a str/arc (for HMS) for next run? Granted both will be kind of bad at the start, but one needs to get through ton of the DLC, other needs to get through.. not quite as much of it.

Curious what stat setup is best for damage on HMS, as well as the transformed mode on bloodletter, is the frenzy only from the L2?

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>>165973494
I never claimed to be your friend though.

>>165973520
A bloodletter focus is good right from the start since you can focus on Str and use the Axe until you get the tinge weapons.

>>165973520
Yes, L2 procs Frenzy on yourself, not other players. 50/25/25 is best for HMS alone, but 25/25/50 has Hunter Tools, better beam damage and converted weapons while still doing decent damage with the blade. 14 Strength and 50 Bloodtinge is all you need for the Bloodletter.

So is 40 blt optimal for bloodletter ? I was thinking 25/40 i wanan stay in the meme meta level for FC

>>165973775
>40BLT
Good shit right there.

>>165973997
>He can't read

>>165973993
No, just go 14/50 Str/Blt. Don't follow any of the tripfag's garbage builds.

>>165973914
it's JUST the L2 that gives self frenzy, right? not any other? that's what I wanted to make sure of.
So either beamspam heavier in arc, or more on the str side for general use?

And in transformed mode on bloodletter, it's just purely BLT scaling, that why leave str at 14?

thanks for the info

and how aids would it be to try and rush for bloodletter and is it worth it?

Why is he still here?

>>165973993
>>165974138

There are too stat builds in the image for a reason.

>>165973993
When it comes to Blt weapons like the Bloodletter, meet the minimum Str/Skl requirements, and start dumping into Blt. Same formula works for the Chikage

>>165974207
We're one of his goldmines of attention.

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>>165971514
Faggot

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>>165965758
So I'm the one that made the chalice that has these guys. Should I farm these guys to see what they can drop? There's a standing ritekeeper nearby that can potentially buff them too. I will post results if I do find anything interesting.

Anyone wanna help me fight living failures ?

>>165973520
bloodletter is really good but it's kinda boring and you'll only ever use it tricked if you are mostly just BLT instead of strength (also because it takes your health to trick it). Untricked isn't that good anyway, but it'd be nice to use it sometimes.

the HMS is excellent both tricked and untricked and has the potential to do way more damage than the bloodletter. The R2 lightbeams do as much damage as a fully charged R2 arrow from the bowblade, while both cost 1 quicksilver bullet

>>165974165
Yeah just the L2. You need 14 Strength to hold it. Either HMS build doesn't require beamspam, the sword will do fine in either. Plus the damage is insane when both the blade and beams hit. Since Blt has limited right-hand weapons, I'd get 15 Skill for Chikage and Bowblade. They'll help you get to Bloodletter well enough, or just treat it like Bl4 and use a Saw with BB Pellets & Papers.

>>165974294
Except when it comes to the BL because it's one-handed mode is actually decent, and getting 28 Str opens up a ton of fun BLT weaponry you could not use otherwhise.

>>165974465
They always drop beasthunter / kinhunter gems.
See if you can get them to chase you into the ritekeeper before she sees you so she can buff them. If they are buffed red they may potentially drop beasthunter / kinhunter abyssals

>>165974768
>>165974465
actually I think the caskets only drop gems up to rating 17, so no abyssals. But you could maybe get a rating 19 beast / kinhunter gem. That's some korean shit right there

>>165974465
Sounds good, anon.
I went back just now and did some looking over, and there's some contradictory information regarding the red aura rating modifiers.
One source sets it at +2, and the second source by the same exact guy sets it at +1. I've sent the guy a message to clear things up, but the potential abyssal before layers 1 and 2 might not be true if it's only at +1 then.
Either way, the highest you'd get, assuming the red aura is a +2 modifier as stated in the Arcanist Cookbook, is a Rating 19 gem. But, go for it, anon.

>>165974768
I can't get it to buff the casket. Is it when it does the aoe purple mist?

>>165974504
>>165974568
hm, so should get 15 skill for a tiny bit more option on the BLT build, and probably just take my current 50/25 str/skl char and add arc for the HMS then? What HMS would I want for the 50/25/25 one? Lost?

And a weapon being boring does not really matter to me, I mean I used hunter axe then whirligig for the entire game. Long as it's good and effective.

>>165975483
Yeah, here's a random YT video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zij1M8JJks
The very first move it does.

>>165975616
28 Str will let you use the BL one-handed effectively. It will also let you use things like the church cannon and gatling gun.

15 Skl will let you use all of the skl weapons.

>>165975616
Yes for both. Lost or normal is fine for HMS, there's very little difference. Normal for 2 Rom/Gargoyle Radials and an Amy Triangle, Lost for 1 Rom/Gargoyle Radial and 2 Amy gems for Triangle/Waning.

With 50/25 Str/Skl you could also just use it like a Physical weapon, 1 Heavy and 2 27.2% gems for the Normal version. The beams won't do good damage though, tricked mode will still be fine.

>>165975483
maybe her buff only works on her goons that are patrolling around with her?

I have seen red-buffed enemies in many dungeons who are just always buffed every time you load the area, with no patrolling ritekeepers in sight. Maybe it's just randomly applied to certain enemies when the dungeon is generated, and it only can be *added* to un-buffed enemies if they are members of the ritekeeper's posse?

I kinda like the ending where you wake up, ain't all that bad.

>>165975957
Are you sure about 15 Skl, in that it lets you all the Skl weapons? Because the Rakuyo requires 20.

>>165976162
That's a thought. There's not much info about them, though, even on the bloodborne-wiki. http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/03/ritual-masters.html
I know for a fact I've seen a hunter buffed by the red aura, so I'll try to go spelunking and replicate it again--with other enemies as well. It could be that the hunter was set as part of the posse, considering that both the Ritual Master and the Tomb Prospector were in the same room.

>>165976278
I mean the BLT weapons that have one handed modes that scale with Skl, such as the Chikage and Bow Blade.

>>165976684
Might want to be a little more clear next time

So with rite keeper buffs it should be possible to get an abyssal bloodtinge scaling gem, right?
Because a reiter with S tinge scaling sounds like pure cancer and I'd love to be at the forefront of that

>>165976162
>>165976479
The random red-buffed enemies come from adding the fetid offering when making the dungeon. Not sure if that has any effect on the ritekeepers buffing their minions

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Welp I don't think it works on the caskets because I took immediately after it used the aoe buff and none of them gained an orange aura, unless their model is too big for it to be seen but I highly doubt that. I also don't think her buff is tied down to her posse because after killing all of them I lured a random pthumerian undead to it and the undead got buffed.

Fug Dis

>>165977104
RIP.
But, thanks for trying, man. It seems like certain enemies can't be buffed by the red aura, then. I'm supposing the same applies to roaming bosses. Shame.

>>165976971
only if you can find a red-buffed roaming Blood Starved Beast. Good luck with that.

And even then, you'd need him to drop an off-shape abyssal to put it in your reiter, since BSB only drops circle gems. It would fit in a lost chikage though.