/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

first for 70 arcane.

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3rd for only pussys fear the old blood

Should I clear out Chalice dungeons down to Lower Pthumeru before Amelia?

>>165821769
If you want decent gems yeah

>>165821769
It's up to you how you do the chalices. I usually do them all in one go after I've cleared the story.

>>165821856
The best you can get at that point is like 18% tempering, right?

>>165820552
+5.5% ATK to open foes >>> +15 flat physical damage. Your counterattack damage is off the chain.

the best setup is probably the Lost version of the HMLS, but that means you will have to farm amygdala for 2 of the gems, and farming Amy sucks and takes forever even if you cheese.

I would just get regular or uncanny and farm the gargoyles for 19.3% gems with +ATK to open foes. It wont take nearly as long as farming 2 amygdalas for 2 good nourishing abyssals.

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>>165821903
Nope.

>>165821981
Are those from pre-depth 5 FRCs? Is it even worth wasting time farming those unless you just want to twink on a very low level?

>>165822146
the ideal twinking setup would be any level you want to do it, with full FRC gems.

>one thread is made by Luci
>another has shitty OP picture
Thanks /bbg/

>>165822693
pretty much because it looks fucking stupid

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i like bloodborne

>>165822819
/hbg/-chan, daisuki!

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>>165822819

>>165822146
Those are from Depth 3 story dungeon respawnable mobs.

Certain enemies drop Cursed Gems regardless of what dungeon they are in.
> Flaming weapon skinny pthumerians drop cursed fire gems
> heated club watchers drop cursed Watcher Gems (mostly physical sometimes other types)
> flaming weapon (or Orange Aura) madmen drop cursed gems with doubled secondary effect
> Pick Axe guys drop cursed gems with Healing as the secondary effect
> Flail Knights drop cursed gems
> Orange Aura scourge beasts drop cursed gems
> a single Shotgun Watcher in a depth 2 Root dungeon dropped Cursed BLT gems. But I've never been able to repeat this.

Chalice's are crazy places.

>>165822991
>Certain enemies drop Cursed Gems regardless of what dungeon they are in.
Ah, I see. Probably at 0.00000001% chance.
>Flail Knights
>scourge beasts
Who?

50Str/25Ski is the best for beast cutter if I stick to the meme meta, right? If yes which other weapons will benefit much from these stats?

>>165823414
almost every single weapon in the game.

>>165823114
No, Watchers/Madmen drop gems frequently, it depends on item discovery but even at base you get a gem every couple runs. And the enemies I listed ALWAYS drop cursed gems. It's not praying for a curse to boost the gems effect. It's like farming mobs in an FRC dungeon, except you have full health.

> who?

how can you not know what a Scourge Beast is? It's litterally the first enemy in the game. In Loran dungeons they can appear in with an orange aura around them that lowers max HP but let's them restore health by hitting you. It also massively improves the quality of gems they drop. There's one in Ailing Loran layer 3 pre-boss bonus room. If you want good Waning gems semi-early (you can get there before Shadows of Yharnam) farm him a few times.

Flail Knights are quite obviously chalice Knights, specifically the ones with motherfucking flails. They drop cursed gems for some reason. At least this one did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPiHWuvW0Vw

>>165823114
Scourge Beasts are typically called lycanthropes here.

Is it worth it to go Arc for boomhammer or just cap strength?

Which is the optimal type? Lost?

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>>165823414

Whirligig, Hunter Axe, LHB, Saw Cleaver, Steak Driver, Beast Claw.

>>165823438
Ah, you mean just werewolves, like the one in the clinic?
And I guessed those were the knights you were talking about, but I honestly don't remember them ever wielding a flail. It's always a greatsword or a crossbow. Or both really, since they switch to melee weapon if you're too close.

So, basically, what you're saying is the way to get 20%+ tempering gems is to farm the branding iron fatties?

>>165823524
I ran the numbers and decided that 50/25 Boomhammer looked better, especially because the thing only does fire damage on the first attack after tricking.

>>165823524

The arc is only improving your fire damage.

>>165823523
I have never once seen them called that on bbg, and I'm here all the time.

People either call them werewolves or scourge beasts when they want to use the offical name.

>>165823524
STR first, ARC as a secondary stat. Although if you want to use the Wheel/Toni/HMS then going 25/50 will be best. Boom Hammer won't be optimised, but serviceable enough and other STR+ARC weapons will shine.

Uncanny if you are going full STR with no ARC, blunt gems are best. Lost is for if you have sizeable amounts of both stats. In which case you want three Nourishing Abyysals. One from Pthumeru FRC Rom (gargoyles if you are lazy) with +15 Phys secondary effect, one from Loran FRC Amy with +15 Fire secondary effect and one from FRC Isz Amy with +15 fire or 15 Phys secondary effect.

tfw you get lucky enough to have FRC Ebrietas show up with a big altar in the middle of the room that she can't charge through, making her the easiest boss fight in the game

Why do we go above BL 100 for pvp? There is no good reason.

>>165823623
Lower Pthumeru layer 2 lever guardian, nicknamed Lumpy long ago for a very arbitrary reason.

That fact sack of parry-bait (seriously you can parry him after his swing has finished) drops cursed 20.6% Physical gems semi-frequently. Item Discovery helps.

If you want powerful early game triangle gems you need to go to Lower Hintertomb and farm the Layer 1 pre-boss bonus area Chest Guardian, Clarence, given a name because Lumpy had one that happened to match the object he guarded (L = lever) so he needed one too. He drops 16.5% +14.9 flat physical triangle gems.

Both of them are easily farmable and avalible before Amelia.

>fighting Ludwig with the Holy Moonlight Sword

Holy shit this is so epic. I jump-lightbeamed his face during his beast form right when he landed from a jump and he staggered and I visceraled. I also knocked him out of an incoming charge with an L2 energy attack. But the second part is amazing, especially if you keep going in and out of mid-range instead of just sticking to his dick. That music too

>>165823961

i can't get bloodletter and cannon comfortably under that level

>tfw how boring savescumming is

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>>165824110

>>165823637
>>165823806
Thanks. What weapons make good secondaries with 50/25? The wheel would still be decent yea?

>>165824184
>10 end
>50 vit

get out

>>165824289
are you trying to say you need more than 10?

>>165824184
thats a luci-tier shit build

>>165824238
At 50/25 the Wheel is only good untricked.

The 25 Arc would mostly be useless honestly. 50 Str would be great for all the strength-leaning quality weapons in the game though. And HMLS at 50/25 isn't bad, especially untricked, of course.

>>165824330

i'm saying i want more than ten. i'm not trying to play dks2 here.

also, 49 is as high as i ever go with vit.

>>165824429
My point is you can make a perfectly good BT build without going to 120, not that my build is ideal for everyone.

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>there are people to this day that put points into END

>>165824476
I though this was a meme for sure, but I'm doing a 9-End Blt build and I barely notice the "limitation".

>>165824476
>>165824636
well memed friends

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Comfy blood moon edition.

>>165824793
I mean I wouldn't want to use it on anything else, but on a Skil and/or Blt? It's nothing.

>>165824362
Oh good call, I haven't used that at all yet. Definitely giving that a shot

how do you fuckers cope with farming gems? its so boring

>>165826148
I usually play a podcast or music while farming

>>165826148
You don't
Only autists do it

>>165824476
Some people want to do more attacks than an idle R1 and waiting for stamina to regen.

Are thrust gems worth it on BoM? I think that roll->r1 in tricked mode would do insane dmg

>>165826148
Depending on what gems you want/ are willing to settle for it's really not bad.

>clear FRC
>make save before the boss
>kill the boss 1-5 times; congrats, you're done

I mean, what else are you doing? If you're spelunking you're clearing FRCs. If you need multiple tries to kill a boss you're fighting the same boss multiple times. If you're helping someone else kill a boss you're fighting a boss you've already killed for the xth time.

So farming isn't mechanically very different than what you're usually doing in the game anyway.

>>165828329
Is that tricked or untricked rollR1?

>>165828329
It's massive damage but I wouldn't say it's worth it, dash r1ing everything will get boring quick.

>>165828329
Check the Google spreadsheet under "damage calculator" pastebin in the OP. Click the "moveset data" tab on the bottom. It will show you the damage-multiplier every attack for every weapon, color coded by damage type (green means thrust)

>>165828329
Eh. Here's some approximations using mugenmonkey.

BoM; 50/25 Skl/Arc 3x 32.6 Thrust (2.331473976)

(120+110)2.331473976 = 536.23901448

tricked Dash R1 modifier (1.4)

1.4(536.23901448) = 750 +80Arc


Church Pick 3x 32.6 Thrust
tricked R1 modifier (1.05)

(176+115)2.331473976 = 678

1.05(678.4589270216) = 712

Heading into NG+ on my first playthrough, using a quality build, softcapped all the relevant attributes already. Should I drop some value points into Arcane to unlock stuff like the Old Hunter's Bone and Empty Phantasm Shell, or just pump points into either my damage stats or Vitality?

While I'm at it, is it worth trying to incorporate the Burial Blade into this build, or is it better on an Arcane-focused build?

>>165828617
>>165828697
That's pretty weird as only the roll r1 is thrust but the step r1 is not.
Also run r1 in both forms.

>>165829215
Oh thanks, seems that it wouldn't be worth it as the AR difference is not that great for only one attack

>>165829334
Don't bother with Arcane for BB, just stick to 50 Skill and some Strength. EPS isn't worth getting 15 Arc for, neither is OHB unless you want anime dashing. 15 Arc for Beast Roar and 18 for Augur is worth it.

>>165829334
If you're at 50 vit/str/skl dumping a few more points in either wouldn't really do much for your damage output. I'd personally go for 15 arc if I were you. Or end, you can never have too much stamina, despite what memers say.

>>165829589
>softcapped
>50

Or even
>just starting NG+
>anything at 50

>>165829759
What are you even trying to >imply?

>>165829759
>not being bl:98 when entering ng+
calm down faggot

What is more fun:
50 Str/ 25 Skl or 25 Str/ 50 Skl ?

>>165830423
50 str/50 skl.

>>165830423
50/25 let's you use most of what 25/50 can use effectively while having Strength weapons. Plus Cannon.

>>165830527
>>165830661
Thanks lads

>>165829759
>he doesn't do the chalices and kill Orphan, Yharnam, Gherman and Moon Presence back to back

>not entering NG+ with 600 vials and bullets

>not carrying over a million blood echoes while shitting on everything in PvE with a completed build and gemmed out

It's like you actually, seriously, truly hate fun.

>>165821458
martry logarius really pisses me off

why does the blunderbuss aim for some spot 2 feet above his head?
why is the run back as long as the boss?
why can't you rally from his overhead slash attack?

>>165831968
The run back is 30 seconds and the overhead slash in phase 2 is a multi hit. You can only rally the last portion of damage received, and to be frank, Logarius isn't one of those bosses you stunlock or trade hits with very well.

>>165831968
Just parry him to death, like half of BB bosses.

Worth getting the uncanny saif for the triangle gem or shoud i stick with the normal one?

>>165832284
Yes.

>>165832121
its like a minute and a half
>sprint to elevator
>take elevator, send it back down
>sprint through library and either kill blowdart guy or lose 200 hp on the ladder
>take ladder
>go across roof, drop down, then again
>then another ladder

>>165832378
Alright so I exaggerated the time back slightly. Who the fuck risks the ghost swarm to kill the blowdart guy? I sprint past and up the ladder and have never needed more than one vial to heal his damage and the drop damage before the ladder. If you're using 19 vials, something is going very wrong no matter what boss you're fighting.

>>165832378
Well there isn't any other way to get there unless he doesn't take the elevator for some reason. I think he is just retarded.

>>165833119
>Who the fuck risks the ghost swarm to kill the blowdart guy?
I've had sessions where I just could not get up that fucking ladder because that little faggot would aggro on me for some reason and then proceed to shoot me enough times to knock me off the latter (since End is a meme, you know), so I totally understand why some people would kill him.

>>165831968
Fuck Logarius. Hate that boss.

>>165833119
>Who the fuck risks the ghost swarm to kill the blowdart guy?
The ghosts are slow as hell and will never be able to catch up with you, and the blowdart guy dies in two hits.
Getting hit by the fucking blowdarts while climbing a ladder is ten times more annoying, even if it's ten seconds faster.

>>165827968
>what is a gun? huuuuuur

"Grasp the runes. They're ours to use."

>there are people in this very thread who didn't kill Logarius in their first try

>>165833690
>solo'd almost every boss
>except logarius
i dont get what makes him so difficult, the individual attacks are easy enough to avoid on their own. maybe its the memes

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Where's that Chikage you can get without killing Logarius?

Or is that a Burial Blade you can get without killing Gehrman?

Did I just farm Lumpy for enough Blood (4) to open Ailing Loran early for no reason?

>>165834935
I did because I didn't go to Cainhurst until very late game, and had to look up where to go after going through all of Hemwick Charnel Lane and didn't go near the specific spire thingy you need to

>>165835058
You can only get lost/uncanny weapons if you already own the regular version

>>165835146
Only the DLC weapons have that requisite.

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>>165835058
FUCK IT WAS BURIAL BLADE

AND IT'S LOWER LORAN

WHY DIDN'T I JUST CHECK BEFORE I DID THE FARMING

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>forgot to kill mother brain for dat living string
>already in ng+

>>165835395
When I die I'm going to kill God for allowing male-pattern baldness.

>>165835048
>Logarius
>first phase: dash in while he's casting and get a hit or two in
>second phase: just parry

>>165836285
>Logarius
>Hit him once, then he jumps in the air
>No matter where or how you dodge he lands on you for 70%
>Do this until you run out of Vials and die

I unironically think Logarius is harder than Ludwig.

>>165836391
You can parry his jump attack. There's a slight delay between the moment he lands and the moment he swings at you. That's when you wanna shoot him. And if you have trouble with that attack, don't get too far away from him, so he wouldn't do it as often.

>>165836483
Not the dumbass anime slide-n-spin. The Akuma-style straight-up-and-down karate chop, except with his sword.

>>165836574
I honestly don't even remember this attack. The boss just dies too quickly.

>>165836645
>:^)

Haven't played the DLC yet. Is Ludwig really the fuckin nightmare people say it is?

>>165836817
To some extent. If you go in there at BL90 with a +10 weapon you can brute him just like the rest of the game.

It's more to do with the fact that you can potentially fight him immediate after Amelia, when you're BL40-something.

At that level, he'll wear the average player like a [pinky]ring.

>>165836574
I know which one you mean but come on, just wait a little bit more before dodging. Or just look up and watch him as he goes down.
Also if this attack doesnt oneshot you, than yourefine

Who are the Vicars? Is it a rank in the church or are all of them beast like Amelia and Laurence?

>>165838968
https://www.google.com/search?q=vicar&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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redpill me on saw cleaver

>>165839434
It's the perfect iconic weapon

>>165839434
Its a decent balanced, if boring, weapon. Builds on strength and skill, leaning more towards strength. Very fast attack speed for rapid hits, saw teeth give bonus damage vs Beast type enemies as well, and alt form has nice sweeping attacks with great range and pancake ability. You can swing it into a large group of enemies to keep them at bay, or swing it up and down to stomp crows that like to jump at you.

Its just kind of boring after all that. But thats more my personal opinion. I think the other two starter weapons are more fun to use, and that the majority of weapons in the game have many more uses. And that if they had swapped the Saw Cleaver and the Spear, then almost no one would ever use the Cleaver. The spear can do almost everything it can, on top having super long thrust on the R2.

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>>165824476
Eat shit faggot

Why is there an Iosefka Vial near Mergo's Wet Nurse?

>>165834935
I beat him first try on my first playthrough. He fucked me up badly on an arc character

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>Shadow of Yharnam
Why

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>>165835395
I feel you

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>>165841798

>>165840234
I think I'm in love
I'd rather learn how to dodge than use vit as a crutch like some fags
Great minds think alike anon

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>>165842123
Never speak to me again.

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>>165842178
:-(

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>>165840234
Don't you stop getting stamina after like 46 end?

>>165842527
I'd really prefer if you would stop talking

>>165840986
This is speculation


Maybe Iosefka had something to do with the mensis ritual. She's a doctor, right? Maybe she helped bring Mergo about and was at Mergo's loft at some point. Maybe she is Wet Nurse.

>>165842598
And furthermore, that extra point will never come in handy because it adds only a pixel of stamina. You might as well stop at 40 and level up something moreUSEFUL.

>>165842907
You really don't understand the point of that build do you

>>165842907
You should end yourself my good lad.

>>165840986
>>165842695
Iosefka is a pthumerian.

Is there any lore on that weirdo who gives you the transfusion in the opening cinematic?

>>165842951
I'm just messing with the edgy end fag

>>165843059
But I don't like endurance. In fact I mever level it up

>>165843182
Maybe he has soenthing to do with Gherman? Maybe he's the one who outs hunters under cibtracts with the Moon Precense. Maybe he's a nobody who gets killed by that first scourge beast.

Also, how does he even get anywhere? He's in a wheel chair and the only exit is through stairs.

Just beat the game for the first time.

What the fuck happened to the Paleblood? Did that plot thread get dropped halfway through development?

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>>165843192
>me
>edgy
Kid...

>>165842527
>someone saved my shitty chart
Nice desu ne.

is memebornes online active anymore?
thinking of booting the game up again and doing a playtrough with fuck do i know a stake driver or something
but cant be fucked to start fucking with the cables if there is absolutely no one playing anymore

Anyone up for ihyll HBLB? Pass is 420doggo

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>>165843317
Paleblood could either mean the purple sky or Moon Presence, both of which you take care of in different ways depending in the ending you choose.

>>165843779
Cool, thanks.

>get what looks like it could be a good gem with the first 2 effects
>hp depletes -9
nevermind.

>>165843378
Now you're just being an annoying memester

>>165843317
There was only one person in the game who knew what the Paleblood was, the blood minister in the opening scene. The note on the chair was for him, not you. You are the Paleblood. It's not the name of a great one, it's a medical condition you came to cure in the first place. It is what allows you to Dream, like Durja and Eileen, and sets you apart from other hunters.

>>165821458
>thumbnail
>unrelated to Bloodborne
Please never make an OP again

>>165843978
This

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>>165843895

>>165844046
Sad.

>>165843895
There is one more note about paleblood in the lecture hall, not sure how that would fit in what you are saying.
I like it tho as it really bothers me any other way because it just doesn't "click" for me in any other lore theory

>>165843317
Paleblood is open to interpretation. It could mean the sky, the Great Ones, the Moon Presence itself, or simply the eldritch truth in its totality. It's sort of everything you want or need it to be in a way. Much of Bloodborne's truths are intentionally obscured, the fun is piecing together what you believed really happened. There's a numver of solid certain events, but past that is the unkown.

>>165843462
pls

>>165844237
There are a few notes that reference it directly, but only one character is actually familiar with it.

Also,
>here to embolden your sickly spirit
I don't feel very sick

What's the best starting class for a pure SKL build? Professional? Military Veteran?

>>165844663
>50/15/10/50/8/15 bl98
that is best achieved with proffesional, otherwise look at what else you want to invest in and check on mugenmonkey

Anyone got glyphs for layer 1 FRCD5 bosses that drop abyssals?

>>165845087
Shit, thanks. You saved me from going on mugenmonkey to plan it out. Been forever since I had builds set up since I got rid of my old PS4 and characters.

>>165844584
It means to make you strong. When you just start out, you're just a human. By the end, with all that Insight and those ancient blood echoes? You're more than human. Human no longer.

>>165845231
np man, that's the build I am doing right now for BoM and Rakuyo. If you want to use other skill weapons then I guess getting 25 str is better way to spend your points as they all have some str scaling. Sacrificing arc and a bit of Vitality.
This build has 10str for rakuyo, 8blt for repeating pistol and 15 arc for OHB and Beast roar.

Beast cutter
Full blunt gems?
Does it do blunt damage in whip form?

>>165845287
I mean yeah, but "sickly" isn't really an appropriate adjective for that, is it? There are plenty of others that could imply that, but sickly is pretty specific.

You could chalk it up to a translation thing, but I like it. Also, anemia was a real problem in Victorian times, and was characterized by a lack of red blood cells and a pale hint in the blood.

>>165845480
>>165845231
and for the 25/50 str/skl would military veteran save 2 points from arc and blt

>>165845695
Entirely blunt in both forms.

>>165845803
Sweet thanks

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>>165844663

>>165845231
You need 10 blt for rifle meme and memepallasch

>>165845859
That seems to be a lot of Stamina you have there. Is it really all necessary?

>>165845912
It's not necessary, but the Rakuyo is stamina heavy, and I am using End as a dump stat to get to level 98.

Riddle me this

Is the dodge mechanic purely invincibility frames? iFrames if you go an opossing direction?

Because fucking darkbeasts can almost always hit me mid dodge or at any point during it.

Is it im dodging the claw but the bolt is tagging me?

Also speaking of darkbeasts is his AoE strikebox actually a square? Because sometimes it misses, otheres it almost snipes me across the arena.

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>>165845912
Of course not. Something like this allows you to use all skl weapons and OHB dash r1 spam. If you don't want tools add the rest to end or str.

>>165843459
Plenty of people active. Way more than DS2 on PS4 that's for fucking sure.

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>>165845981

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What's the /v/erdict?

>>165845705
I think it's part weak human and part the idea you came to Yharnam for blood healing. It might not be totally literal, either, sickly in aspect, new and frightened.

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>>165846121

>>165846067
What is OHB?

>>165845705
>>165844584
>>165843895

I like that explanation but I just can't look past the "Nameless Moon presence. Paleblood" note. It just doesn't make much sense in this context. And I'm not sure Blood Minister knows what a paleblood is, exactly. He might say it for the same reason Gilbert does: because you ask him.

>>165846331
Old hunters bone I believe

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>>165846297

>>165846067
15 arc is a shitty stopping place. Drop Vit to 45, put 2 points in end, and 3 in arcane. If you are going that high anyway, you may as well put in the 3 extra points so you can parry while two handing things like the Rakuyo

How many playthroughs have you accumulated?

>>165846673
20+

>>165846256
One of the two best weapon in PvE.

1 Whirly + 1 Axe = 2 Gud

>>165846673
6. The last three were purely to farm chunks and insight.

Then i became a tomb prospector

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>>165846653
>parry things with Augur

Have fun standing there for 10 seconds after you miss. But of course you don't play against weeners with 31s or 27s and don't know how much damage they can deal with one attack. Maybe you should get into the fc from time to time to know what really happens when you use your bullshit builds against somewhat competent fags.

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>>165847003
>2016+1
>still replying to him
Get your shit together faggot

>>165847003
>miss

>tear blood stone gives you heals
everything u do makes me want to cum inside you more and more doll

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>>165847230
DELETE THIS

So for BLT build, 50VIT/15SKL or 40VIT/25SKL?

>>165847471
First one

Anyone want to go through some Chalice Dungeons together? Trying to get to the end dungeons, and right now I just made a Central Pthumeru.

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Daily reminder that luci's a furfag
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/desecratedflame

Can a friendly anon give a hand with amygdala? ringing bell on the bridge NG BL 61 pass is bbg

>>165847634
chalice DONEgeons get it because im fucking done with this shit

>>165848182
I hear you man I hate this shit. But, as usual, everything is more enjoyable in co-op.

>>165848163
Amy is really a boss that's better fought solo. Much easier to cheese.
Unless you summon someone on a blt build or arc with bse.

>>165848321
I'd help you, but I'm off in the mines in Pyongyang.

>>165847634
What level are you brah?

>>165848470
46, currently.

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>>165848092
>bitching about his profile pic
there are many things to hate about him but leave miyabi out of this

>>165848182
I'll try and assist

>>165848514
Exact same as me. Do you have all the chalices already?
I'm just doing the first three Pthumeru ones for now.

>>165848616
No, I've only unlocked Central Pthumeru (2nd one) currently. New character and all that.

>>165848708
Anyhow, you should just post pass in your first post and continue going through the dungeons. Maybe someone in the thread will notice and join.

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>go through yarhgarhbarglgarbl
>develop irrational actually very rational hatred of chime maidens after fighting suped up snipers, doggos, and those crazed faggots from hemwick while playing fucking hide and seek and dodge the cleaver
>get to one reborn
>pavlovian response kicks in upon hearing the bells
>ignore the reborn and go ballistic hunting for a the chimers
>that was actually what you're supposed to do
that was some unironically 10/10 game design

>>165848791
Pass I'll help

>>165848339
I had previously thought it quite tough as her legs were basically invincible while they were all I could hit from that position of relative invulnerability, then this time I realised I can overhand attack cheese her

>trying to farm isz amy for triangle nourishing gems
>keep dying
>not really farming at this point
>just repetative dying
feels bad

>>165848850
You sure you replied to the right post?

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I just beat vicar amelia 6th try :DDDDDD

>>165849080
Wrong reply my bad anon

>>165849172
Level 46 Central Pthumeru Layer 3 Lantern, password bbgpth if you want to dungeon crawl still.

>>165849289
Searching

>>165849289
I only progressed to layer 1 of lower pthumeru, so from there on I'd like to take turns.

>>165849289
YYYYYEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>165849076
kek, the kill after that got a blood rock and atk up +21.5%, add phys +15, atk vs kin down -11.3%, pretty much the best i can get
top memes will be had tonight

>>165848817
I still don't know how I feel about when I help someone with that boss and they don't immediately run for the stairs... Am I helping them out, or denying them learning how to do it for themselves?

>>165849289
You have it set to worldwide? I'm not finding anything

>>165849559
>>165850039
Yeah, we just killed the boss. Headed to Lower Pthumeru Layer 1 now. Will ring in a second. Same password.

>>165850184
Now serving, Layer 2.

>>165848163
back to ringing, same location and pass. amy has me giga triggered

>>165848817
that's great but everybody else just knew to kill them first because of demon's souls

>>165846402
Might be a stretch, but they could just be drawing a link between the two (my version of Paleblood being able to Dream), not necessarily that they're the same thing.

>>165847331
why does she look very disgusted

>>165852370
She read all the /bbg/ posts about her

>>165848092
why do people care so much about troph dogs

How in the hell do you dodge the big charged up energy slash Ludwig does in phase 2? I always get clipped by it somehow and lose like 70-80% of my health and it puts me on tilt while I scramble to recover. I can be doing great up to this point and then autolose because I don't get any chances to safely get in on him or restore my health.

>>165852735
Run behind him

>>165852735
you hug his crotch the whole fight and then roll behind him when he starts charging up

>>165852664
I don't care about Trophies. I only bothered to plat the game when Sony announced a free theme would be given out to people that did.

>>165852735
It's easily telegraphed, I believe he does it after the first visceral. When he does the AoE, back off then run to his side while he slams down.

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>Mensis Brain is lined with messenger corpses
>just like Winter Lanterns
>just like Moon Presence in the concept art
>just like those slug things in Nightmare frontier

What does it mean?!? Just what role do the messengers play in all of this?

>>165852872
the trophies you missed were simple things like dungeons though. you gave retarded advice about dungeons even though you;d never even done them

>>165852791
>>165852847
>>165852884
My problem is that I instinctively start trying to side step, but the way he turns toward you after he's done charging but before he slams it down means that the wide reach from his beam always catches me and then throws me into it. I need to get better about unlocking when fighting some enemies. I have a hard time fighting his phase one even when unlocked because of how wild his moves are.

>>165853026
Are they messengers, or are they just bodies of sacrificed people like in The One Reborn?

>>165853102
No, I didn't. I was always up front about not really caring about the chalices or chalice gems.

>>165853234
Yeah you'll want to unlock for the 2nd phase, much easier to rely on rolling and running.

>>165853404
kek, whatever you say faggot :^)

>>165853404
>atleast you tried

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>tfw note almost at as many fouls as fines
>i just wanted to help

>>165854387
What does it say and where?

>>165854550
beware of wheelchair by that guy in the wheelchair in central yharnam near the lamp who faces away from you with a gun

is amygdala kin?

>>165854715
That message would be better placed in the Nightmare version of that area.

>>165855062
i havnt started the dlc yet on this character

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>>165854387
>mrw my pair of notes showing the hidden elevator path in the nightmare unseen village has guided many a hunters.

>>165855379
my best is 12:0

>>165855458
I feel dirty about my note that just says 'time for rolling' with over a hundred fines in the pot room in Cathedral Ward

>>165855030
No, equally weak to fire/bolt/arcane as well so no need to solely use Bolt Paper/gems

>>165855586
anyone who doesnt do that is no better than a beast

>>165855458
I have a message that says "no mercy for birds" behind that crow in the Reaserch Hall rafters that has over 200 fine ratings.

>>165855379
>put a note before a hidden path
>almost no ratings, because people who took the hidden path didn't bother to come back and rate it
>put a joke message right after
>two hundred ratings

daily reminder that if someone throws an oil urn at an enemy it usually means theyre using fire converted weapons so dont be a pleb and hit said enemy with fire paper or a molotov
pls

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>>165855786
>braking insence urns that help keep away the beast

It's you, you're the beast

>>165856075
>implying theres incense in the urns themselves

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>>165853404
>No, I didn't.

Reminder: If you're not using the Beast Cutter or the Beasthunter Saif, you're a pleb who lacks insight.

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>>165856160
>break urns
>they're full of dead people

>>165856369
I wish Beast Cutter actually did damage.

>>165856643
>not squishing dead people into urns

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>moon presence's face has the same pattern as blooddregs
DEEPEST

>>165856753
>he doesn't slap 30+% blunt gems on his cutter
stay pleb

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>>165856901
>implying moon presence face is covered in Executioner sperm
>implying Executioners bukkake'd a great one
Executioners win again :^)

>>165856753
>not using fire converted beast cutter
well keked

>>165857201
>tainting a noble str weapon like beast cutter with magick

Doesn't anybody want to help piggyback my level 13 character to the dlc I'm trying to get some of the weapons in the dlc early. The beast saif and rayakuyo being my main targets gonna set my password to bbg waiting Infront of Amelia

>>165857390
>rayakuyo
Haha, no. Grab the saif and be thankful for that.

>>165857293
>not going arc/str

>>165857801
Then grab the moonlight sword faggot
Don't ruin the loud death that is the cutter with your faggy magic

>>165853350
I'd be tempted to say yes, given that the Brain is basically just a gigantic Winter Lantern in terms of function, but I'm not sure the bodies are the right size. It's also possible that this might be where most of the Mensis scholars besides Memecolash ended up, but that's a little awkward. On the one hand, if it was comprised of Mensis guys, then it makes sense that it recognizes Make Contact, but at the same time, I don't think we can also be assured that they'd know the Moon rune. Plus, its description suggests the Brain might be somehow related to the Great Ones, and the fact that the Doll claps when you do the gesture, but only when you switch sides, might suggest the gesture actually does have meaning.

tl, dr; maybe i guess?

>>165853026
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putto
Messengers are the Bloodborne version of these guys. They just crop up wherever there is sacred shit.

>>165856901
It also looks a lot like the cross-section of an umbilical cord

>>165857390
The Rakuyo isn't that great compared to the Saif and it will require you to go through 3 bosses. Just run to the Saif and come back later for the Rakuyo

>>165857909
It's like you don't even want eyes on the inside

Can someone help me kill Ludwig on NG+2? I want to platinum the game and I missed the sword on my first playthrough like a retard, I'm BL 120 on this character, I'll ring by the fog door with pass: bbg

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Who is the manlet now? Haha

>>165857947
Brain IS a great one

>>165855379
>hidden elevator path
you mean the jump onto the roof with the teleporting bath thing?

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>>165858030
>Face looks a lot like the cross-section of an umbilical cord
>Moon Presence presses it's face against your stomach when absorbing you
>it's head and tail looks like a placenta

HOLY SHIT

hows my hmls for my 25/50 str/arc build (made it as autistic as i can in about 3 hours): ATK up 19.5% phys 7.8 atk vs kin down 10.1%, atk up 21.5% add phys +15 atk vs kin down 11.3%, atk up +21.5% boosts rally 2.8% increase stmaina cost 3,2%

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>>165859527
Oh god...

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>>165859431
>he's not in the know

>>165859527
Guys, what if Moon Presence is a cosmical Great One umbilical cord itself?

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>>165843895
Really granted me eyes

How did I do guys? First time trying out sliders and shit. This will be my first female charecter playthrough in a souls game

>>165859548
anyone? :^)
not too sure about the curses etc and hopefully theyre the right gems for the build

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>>165860154
My bad forgot image like a pleb

>>165857947
The brain was found by mensis

>>165823414
I actually would recommend a different build - 25/50 str/ski with church pick and beast cutter. It's an extremely flexible combo that deals with literally anything in the game to a great degree. The 25 STR for BC is just fine, be sure to gem appropriately though.

>>165860347
8/10.

>>165859916
>face looks like the cross section of an umbilical cord
>blooddregs also look like the cross section of an umbilical cord
>vile bloods use numbing mist which stops healing
>moon presence summons white orbs witch stops healing
>the main goal of vile bloods is to gather blood dregs for there queen
Really activates your almonds

>>165860347
>heterochromia
Specialsnowflake/10

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>tfw you first realized that if you have bolt hunters mark selected in quick items it fades when someones about to join you

Ok so Same dude from earlier asking about help would anyone mind me summoning you and clearing out the enemies on the way to beast saif :/ im level 21 and way too frail to make the run i feel
Like my password will be thxbbg

>>165862093
What lantern

>>165863041
The first one just opened the simon shortcut

>>165863041
Since I'm super ubderleveld I'm just gonna hang back and stay alive till we get to the beast saif thanks man

>>165863383
I'll do my best

>>165859527
Am I retarded for not knowing where you're going with this?
What are you implying?

>>165863610
Ok password is thxbbg

Can anyone help with regular Amy? Ringing at boss fog, lvl 50, pass is bbg

whats boomhammer like on 25/50 str/arc?

>BL40 at Amelia
I felt so bad.

>>165863610
Nevermind i made the run thx anyway tho

>>165863878
I'll be right there, give me a minute

>>165864168
Ha ok

>>165851950
This, even the cutscene is a huge throwback

>>165863923
Trash
Pump str to 50
Throw in 2 physicals and a nourishing
im lying, I know almost nothing

>>165863923
I may be eyeballing the maths wrong but I think it does like 3/4 the damage of a 50/25

Which is pretty bad desu but if it's PvE everything works anyway and if it's PvP your real problem is the moveset, not the raw damage

>>165864176
ty good hunter

>>165857947
>It's also possible that this might be where most of the Mensis scholars besides Memecolash ended up, but that's a little awkward
It's not, they're all over Yahar'gul, Lecture Building and Nightmare of Mensis

>>165863738
Nothing, even if it's true there are no real lore implications.

>>165851950
>>165864374
well I never had a ps3, so it was new to me

>>165866104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1b7KTeVNd4

>>165860347
tell me the specific settings

>>165866261
huh, that's really cool, albeit a lot more direct with the stairs

>>165858194
I'm still trying guys, anyone want to join me?

>>165867539
omw

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oh boy finally got the beast claws
now time to try to beat Laurence with +7 beast claws at level 60

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>>165821458
>its a spider level
>40 or so of them have built up in some hidden room in a corner
>finally open the door
>yfw

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>>165868191
>Laurence with +7 beast claws at level 60

wew lad good luck, let us know if you need a hand with that bullshit

>>165868289
I forget which dungeon it is that has 3 chime maidens in a single room
But it's fucking hell

>>165868351
I just want to be able to invade parts of the normal game as a beast
why did they have to lock the coolest shit behind DLC bosses

>>165867715
Thanks Hibiki, we crushed him real nice.

>>165855586
lol you wrote that?
I rated it fine and broke every pot in the room

Could someone help me out with the Undead Giant in Lower Pthumeru Layer 2? Pass will be bbg

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>>165821458
who was the cheapest npc fight do you think?

so many to choose from

>>165868469
It's the sense of achievement, and becoming what you defeat. It's good shit, I think.

I've got a level 300 character with 50 STR and 99 ARC and the holy moonlight sword blows every other +10 gemmed weapon out of the water in terms of damage

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>>165869168
I would say Henryk if you had to fight him alone. Nigga just spams his gat.

But really it's probably bloody crow. His stupid gun does like 900 damage a bullet

>>165869464
that katana bastard is worse imo

>have to fight him alone
>repeating pistol with infinite ammo that deals over 400 damage per shot

>>165869168
I think the two yahargul kidnappers near great cathedral. Nothing interesting about them, eery other noc encounter was somehow interesting to me at least

>>165869464
I just had my first run where that cunt actually killed Eileen, I'm pretty salty about it

>>165869581
That one that just spams his rifles is a real pain in the ass, and for some reason he takes way less damage than the Tonitrus one too

>>165869581
>>165869915
Wait the two to the right of the cathedral? They are so easy if you just lure them out one at a time

>>165840986
i havent got a lore reason, i dont think there is one. i just think it is miyazaki saying "hey maybe you should go to iosefkas clinic and see if there are any useful items there now wink wink"

>>165869227
there's nothing good about demon fireclericbeast

>>165869168
>>165869915
that gun faggot to the right of the cathedral is the worst thing as far as being cheap goes
tonifag is an alright fight but that gun cunt just pussyfoots away and spams his rifle spear until there's more lead than air
keep distance
>BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM
get in close
>hop BLAM
there's a reason we don't have infinite ammo
at any rate he's thankfully easy to cheese, bait his tonibro away and polish him off solo, then hide behind a tree with the axe until gun gets bored and decides to go cqc, then whack him through the tree and roll behind the other tree as he REEEEs a thousand rounds at you

>>165870102
depends on your level. if you make a wrong turn and fight them super early they will fuck you up

have fun getting hit for 100 by the souped up npc version of ludwigs at midrange and one shot at close range

Dope, thanks Hibiki. I hate that fucking boss with a passion.

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Farming blunt gems
get two 31.5% thrust
I can't even use them fuck

>>165870191
Giving NPCs infinite ammo was a mistake

>>165869464
>>165869567
What really gets me is that the bloody crow of CAINHURST has a repeating pistol.

Not the cainhurst gun, the church gun.

It's like fighting a cosplayer who breaks the cosplay for minmax.

>>165870869
The fuck would the crow of cainhurst even be cosplaying as in the first place? His gear is all over the place.

>>165871017
>bloody crow didn't even use bone ash leggings and gauntlets for maximum edge
hehe get on my level... kid

>>165871017
He has all cainhurst shit, except the crow chest, and the pistol.

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tfw you can't enjoy playing the other souls games after Bloodborne because the movesets fucking blow in comparison to just about every trick weapon
tfw there will never be a sequel to bloodbourne or any more DLC

>>165865057
Not lore, but maybe it fits with its design.

A lot of the game has to do with birth and evolution, sometimes combining the two with phrases like "born by the blood" and "humanity's second childhood." Plus, the blood moon allows births (the One Reborn, and potentially Arianna's) and evolution ("the line between man and beast is blurred") to happen. With a face looking like cut umbilical cord, it seems like 'birthing things' might be part of his power.

Of course the fact that he really wants baby Mergo killed above all else makes me wonder if he really doesn't like that it happens.

>>165870102
They are pretty easy and I've died to them maybe on my very first playthrough but they are the cheapest NPC fight from the game desu

>>165871594
Hurts mate. 60fps DS2 is nice and all, but I went back the other to playthrough the DLC with /bbg/ and it's just so much fucking better, so much more fun. Bloodborne's combat and movement blows DS2 and 3s combat out of the water.

>>165873117
>DS2
fucking EW

>>165873330
Real fuckin EW, trust you me. Got it for free and while it's not UTTER trash, it's a nice dungeon crawler, I guess, and it helps kill time, but good God it is no Bloodborne.

>>165873117
Yeah I tried to play DS3 a bit after spending an entire day throwing myself at Orphan, couldn't stand it.
especially because the retards at Fromsoft didn't just give the scythes in that game the Burial Blade moveset

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>>165860347
She looks like feels guy.

>>165873746
tfw no insight

>>165873994
>he don't got eyes on the inside
fucking kek

can someone help me with Abhorrent Beast in Lower Pthumeru? pass: bbg

>>165876295
Sure, let me boot up