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Most tomb prospectors, members of the Healing Church chosen to explore the old thread, are unable to withstand the weight of the old knowledge, and go mad: >>164982003


>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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Why are chalice dungeons so shit?
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>tfw most of my trophy screenshots are of me running

I just gotta go fast.
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>>165131760
>Most tomb prospectors, members of the Healing Church chosen to explore the old thread, are unable to withstand the weight of the old knowledge, and go mad:

That's not the last thread. The last thread is here: >>165054771
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>>165131961
because you touch yourself at night
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>>165131961
Because you're a shitter
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>>165132139
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>fucking falling floors and teleport traps in root dungeons
I'm glad they left out some of the tricks from the fixed chalices, so you could experience them in the randomly generated ones.
I'm already sick of the Bloody Crow NPC on every layer though.
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>>165132450
They needed more traps if anything
Hintertomb should have gone to depth 5 and focused on traps, poison and other dickish things
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>tfw dreams about bloodborne
>tfw still feel depressed during the dream
>tfw my life is shit right now
>tfw bloodborne is my only escape
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>run a visceral rune setup
>summon just mashes R1 on the enemies I parry
I just want to have fun. Don't make me use the meta meta.
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Holy shit, it actually works.
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>>165132621
>tfw my life is shit and I don't even have time to play Bloodborne
>haven't even tried an ARC build yet
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>>165132830
>missed the opportunity for a visceral attack
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>>165132830
fuck off luci
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>>165132937
>doing a visceral
>as an arc build
>for no damage
>and ruining the cycle
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>>165133212
>for no damage
>and ruining the cycle
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dont reply to that faggy webm, luci posting without trip again
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>>165133313
>replying to luci with trip off
>ever
seriously his webms are so obvious even when he posts without his trip
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>>165133397
Sorry, I have all tripfags filtered, so I'm not accustomed to their style of posting as much as to identify them.
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>>165133530
all amygdala webms posted early in a thread are luci whether or not he has his trip on
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Well fuck, since you guys liked it so much
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>>165133530
how do you filter tripfags?
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>>165133739
/^!/
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>>165133614
I like this meem
I'm going to make my own Amy cheese webbum
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>>165134072
and then it wont matter if luci posts his gay webms because everyone else will be aswell. not a bad idea anon
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>>165134152
>off in the distant future, five threads from now
>Every single post has an amy jump cheese webm attached
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>>165134456
kek
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>>165132764
>60% V.atk damage
>co-op partner just procs backstabs with simon's bowblade
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>>165134942
>4500+ damage v.atks
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>>165134942
>tfw fight orphan of kos co-op with someone from /bbg/
>was spamming arrows at kos
>all the potential backstabs and viscerals i had ruined
>felt bad after realizing what i had done
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>>165135063
Well, he still took double damage from those R1 swings, so those staggers weren't completely wasted.
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The second part of Ludwig's boss theme is hype as FUCK. I wish this boss would slow the fuck down a bit so you could actually enjoy the song.
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>Try PvP for the first time in Mergo middle
>Literally everyone I've seen is shooting their gun every other second and one hitting me with the riposte when it eventually lands

Seriously what do, One guy literally will not attack and just spams the gun every time I try and close the gap
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>>165135373
For some reason I absolutely do not remember any boss themes from BB.
DS3 had Abyss Watchers, Pontiff, Yhorm.
DS2 I think had a few generic tracks that played on more than one boss, like the Ruin Sentinels, but at least I actually remember hearing it.
And in DS1 pretty much every boss had a memorable tune.
But in BB it's all just some epic orchestral pieces mixed with giant beast screeching.
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>>165135604
Parry baiting with trick attacks, pretty much. A lot of style-swaps have hyper armor, like the burial blade or ludwig's sword, and are extremely hard to parry unless they've just autistically memorized every single moveset.
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>>165135664
try listening to them on their own. they're mostly all great
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>>165135604
Get close, dodge behind/to the side of them, and mix up between a roll R1 and a delayed R1 (or R2 or trick attack, depending on your weapon) as a roll punish.
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>>165135604
That's why PvP in this game is such a clusterfuck. At least his gun is just fishing for parries, some people just kill you outright with their sidearm. Just wait for your first encounter with cannon + bone ash faggots, or pure bloodtinge evelyns.
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>>165135764
They probably are, but that's not the same, as walking into the boss arena in DS1 and immediately getting anxiousness instilled into you, not only the boss' threatening presence, but the music as well.
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>>165135840
>their build is different from mine
>therefore they're are faggots and are playing the game wrong
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>>165135604
Keep dodging until they run out of bullets
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>>165135664
I've played through all the Dark Souls games multiple times but I can't remember a single one of the themes you mentioned. A number of BB's stand out to me though. Guess it's just taste.
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>>165136016
Oh would you look at that, we found one.
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>>165135935
Sorry you have shit taste anon
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>>165136065
One person you always lose in pvp to?
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>>165135604
>>165136047
>3v1's who have members that just spam the blunderbuss
>shoot all three of them to death in return
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>>165135935
To be honest, I have absolutely no idea how anyone could fight Ludwig and not remember his fantastic music for both his stages, especially the start of the bombastic second track after his mid-fight cutscene plays.
I feel like the music of Bloodborne is very fitting too. Ebrietas' song also really stands out to me because of the lower toned trumpet that plays in early stages that really makes it sound like its straight out of a space opera
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>>165136097
no u
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If I go down the elevator that leads to motherbrain as an invader and black crystal out can the host summon the elevator back up?
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>>165136159
These people do notice that you're health is barely depleting and you're nowhere near close enough to start attacking, thus making a parry impossible, right?
I just don't understand the mentality of shitters
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>>165136419
Yes, a second one comes up, when you use it.
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>>165136047
>Just spent entire evening rekting and getting rekt by Lofties with my freshly bluntfarmed Boom Hammer while listening to Vader, Bolt Thrower, and Carly Rae Jepsen

good monday

This weapon is a lot of fun. Hyper armoring through a Saif lunge then delaying an R1 to catch their roll for a fat 1.1k is bliss.
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so I just pushed in the vicar's shit, is there any reason not to shift times yet? I've already
>helped eileen with henryk
>cleared out old yharnam
>cleared out gaol
>killed paarl
>said hi to djura
>sent all the survivors to odeon
>fucked up the hemwick witches
wanna make sure I don't miss stuff
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>>165136946
Nah, you're good to go.
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>>165136994
thanks
alright time to change time
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>>165137165
For future reference the sunset to night time shift changes almost nothing and all that stuff you did could still be done after the shift (with the exception of Eileen, you want to make sure you always kill Henryk before you enter the Forbidden Woods but you can still time shift before then)
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>Kill a crossbow mummy
>drops a poorman gem
Any difference between these and the ones the ghost ladies drop?
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>>165138375
crossbow mummies drop regularly rolled primary + secondary, ghosts roll small primary + big secondary.
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>>165131987
H-he's fast!
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Anyone notice how similar Amygdala and Gehrman's theme is?
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>>165139304
Yup. I've mentioned it before but nobody seemed to care.
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>>165137539
alright, next run then, thanks
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>Rom's meteors actually miss you if you just stand still
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>>165139568
She's actually trying to hit the ghost behind you
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I think as soon as I platinum I'm gonna make a new character that's arc. Hunter tools look so much fun
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>>165139610
>celestial ayymissary does a little dance to buff his little ayys
Neat
Kinda wonder if pinwheel did anything cool if you didn't kill him in ten seconds
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>>165139924
Whoops didn't mean to quote
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what is the best emote, and why is it shhh
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I completely forgot about the DLC as I went and plowed Gerhman and Moon presence, what would be the recommended lvl to tackle it on NG+ ? I don't want to roll a new dude for it.
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>>165140174
>not conviction
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>>165140412
Endgame content doesn't get NG+ multipliers as big as the early game, you could probably just go there as soon as you kill Amelia.
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>>165138375
Chalice Knights drop regular gems, Poormans is just a rare effect, if it was the one guarding the lever in Lower Pthumeru layer 1, he once dropped me an Arcane gem, Watchers can drop it as well at higher % values, it's just really rare.

Ghost gems are also random, Tempering, Adept, Heavy, Striking etc... but the secondary effect is ALWAYS 25-27% ATK up at low HP. When combined with the primary effect (9.1% physical, higher for Adept, Striking and very rarely Poormans) it totals up to the highest damage increase possible. Three 12.5% +27% gems would increase a 100 AR weapon to 100 * 1.125 * 1.27 * 1.125 * 1.27 * 1.115 * 1.27 = 289.

A +10 Stake Driver with a 50/50 build has 335 damage, multiplying that by 2.89 equals 968 AR, and a charge attack deals 3.55x AR which is 2904. And a maxed Beasthood bar is x1.7 which is 4937.

Which would deal 4483 damage on anything with less than 600ish Blunt defense. This damage could maybe be further increased by using a Heavy Abyysal instead of one Poormans gem, but I don't have the scaling info on my phone. Plus it would further increase by hitting an enemies weakspot (eg Amy's head). Or a crippled body part, which I think is 1.5x, but I'm not sure.
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>PS+ trial ends in three days
Should I renew it? Paying for such baseline features as multiplayer is deeply revolting for me as a PC gamer primarily, and simply as a human bean.
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>die like a bitch to chalice bribri's charge
>Damian runs over to my corpse and uses choir bell
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>>165142220
Why do you think Damian wants to kill Eribritas?

It makes sense that a Mensis scholar would kill Rom, she's hiding the ritual and stopping the blood moon from descending. But why Eribritas? Do they just hate the Choir that much?

And it's not random placement either (it rarely is), because Damo is the only story-mode NPC who also appears in dungeons and it's to kill Eribritas.

Maybe the church split because of disagreements on what great ones guidance to follow. Mensis obviously worships Amydala's, who are refered to as "false gods" in the guide, which is also a term you can put in messages. There's probably a bunch of Lore Miyazaki thinks is obvious but it's just not shown in any concrete way.
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Would a LHB be good while i go through a arcane build? I never used it and it has the same gem slots as the saw spear.
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>>165142846
I used it, and it's as good as any other weapon. Because until FRC dungeons your best gems would likely be a radial nourishing and a droplet arcane from Mergo's Loft. And until then you'll be just using some shitty fire gems.
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>>165139313
Could Gehrman possibly be scared deep down?
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>>165143928
>Oh, Laurence… Master Willem… Somebody help me…
>Unshackle me please, anybody…
>I’ve had enough of this dream.. The night blocks all sight…
>Oh, somebody please… (cries)
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>>165143928
>amygdala is the fear part of the brain
>wet nurse is wielding siderite blades and protecting a child
>orphan looks like gehrman and is mad as fuck
>each nightmare boss represents an aspect of gehrman; his fear, his desire to help others, and his bitter anger
SOMEONE CALL VAATI
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Pls respond. >>165141902
Can I possibly do root chalice dungeons offline? Won't I just run out of ritual materials and insight real soon, when I have to pay for every new dungeon?
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>>165144546
you can't glyph search so it'll be a drag doing FRCs without ps+
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>>165144546
If you go into NG+ you'll be able to purchase all Chalice materials offline via Blood Echoes and Insight. You WILL have to do some farming from time to time, but if you keep farming chalices open for obtaining annoying materials you'll be fine. Not having PS+ will not bar you from making Root Chalices, as those are not an online-only thing. You'll only miss out on making freebies and sharing/joining Roots.
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>>165144546
You can get free 2 days if you make a new profile with a new psn, just use a throw away email for that. That works up to 10 times I think. After that you have to buy ps+. I always finished my builds until it comes to farming chalice gems during the week, got my 2 days during weekend so I could farm gems, fight in the fightclub and fucked around with co-op and PvP in memesis. You can do that until your free 2 day trials are used up and think about buying JewS+ later.
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>>165144756
>all Chalice materials offline via Blood Echoes
You sure? I need to check that. Buying them for insight could be a problem, but you get a ton of echoes in the dungeons, and enemies respawn.
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>>165144894
Honestly, I don't care much about the best gems or pvp. I just want to explore the new labyrinths.
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>>165144907
100% sure. I made a character specifically for spelunking and took him into NG+ so I could gather all materials.
The only things you can't buy in NG are Bastards of Loran and...Ritual Blood 5, I believe. Since you'll need plenty of those Bastards for CRF spelunking, you can imagine how annoying it would be to farm them instead of just buying them.
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>>165145006
You can get mats from the baths. Also most dungeons more or less pay for themselves because you'll find some mats in the dungeon.
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loran darkbeast is complete and utter bullshit.
>fuckton of health
>extremely long range
>super high damage
>camera constantly fucks you over while fighting him
>massive high damaging aoe attacks that have little charge time
>fps drops down to 10 since he gives of so many particle effects
I've never seen a shittier boss, literally Das2 tier
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>>165145964
Forgot to say, does anyone want to help me kill this bitch?
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>>165146120
What level are you?
That's the last boss I wanna be downscaled against
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>>165146181
109, ringing now, pass is bbg
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>>165146181
How does downscaling work?
Does your health get divided by a certain value?
Does your character actually regresses in levels, subtracting points from the attributes you increased in reverse?
Do you just get assigned certain pre-determined values for what the devs thought would be appropriate on that level?
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>>165146267
Ringalinging
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>>165132621
My BB dreams are always about Amelia for some reason.
>tfw laying in bed and suddenly start hearing her screams
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>>165146703
>ywn know how she smells like
Feelsbadman
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>>165146598
Didn't think I was that close, ringing again
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>>165146267
Whoops forgot to turn off torrents
That was a helluva ride
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>>165135604
>tfw PvP would be better if guns had to be manually reloaded after every shot
>would actually make the repeater make sense
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>>165146598
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Thanks guys!
That was fucking fast
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>make a new build for second playthrough
>disappointed how fast I'm going through stuff

It's not like I'm not taking my time but damn, after Rom it's just a hop skip and a jump to the mensis nightmare

>made a skl/blt build but barely find use for my ranged options because running up and smacking them is more consistent
>wanna upgrade a bunch've different stuff like chikage and rifle spear but nowhere near the materials

Oh well, I'm almost done and can start the next one at least, then it's off to play demon's and wait for dark souls 3 goty edition on ps4 because my computer is ass
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When doing a arc build when should i start leveling up vit and end?

I have 21 arc at bl 27 and i spent the first points on the minimum requirements for the LHB.
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>>165148335
Whenever you want? Could go for 25 Arc first since you're at 21, but it really doesn't matter.
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>>165132621
Bloodborne is depressing as fuck, how is it an escape
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So is Ailing Loran supposed to be the most frustrating tedious experience ever?
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>>165149156
Loran is fun
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>>165149214
Yeah I love having 5 fucking spiders aggro me from across the map that respawn constantly
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Anyone wanna do some NG++ co-oping after I take a shit?
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A nice place to farm in early game ? im just in cathedral ward and i open the game with the emblem.
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>>165149448
gate"
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>>165148623
Life is worse
I can do well and succeed in Bloodborne
Women talk to me in Bloodborne
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>>165149589
>I can do well and succeed in Bloodborne
No, everything goes wrong at the end
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>>165149607
>he didn't pick infinite doll pussy squidkid ending
Everyone point and laugh
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>>165149156
Oh I can't wait until you reach Defiled Pthumeru... hee hee...
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>>165149448
Farm what?
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>bonus area in FRC loops behind the blue flame gate
>open it from behind without pulling the lever
I didn't realize that could happen.
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>>165151879
>doing co-op
>get summoned behind the gate
>open it up, go find the host
>we finish the level, pull the lever
>come back
>the gate is now shut again
>can't be opened
>another guy who just got summoned can walk through as if nothing is there
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I wish I could dream. I can't remember any of my dreams for the past few years, my nights are blissful oblivion. I used to dream about violence and body horror, which sounds shitty unless that's what got you into it in the first place. I'd love to dream about the Hunt, fellows.

I just realized how meta this is after writing it out. Tell the little doll, hello
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Cursed Tempering Damp Blood Gem (6)
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>>165142724
In part of gameplay reasons, Damian possibly has the highest Arcane resistance out of any other summonable hunter, making him perfect for the fight. In terms of lore, it could be possible that he's just acting on that little note in the second floor of the Lecture Building, the one that says "Hunt the Great Ones." However, it would almost make sense for a Cainhurst Knight to be there, seeing how killing Ebrietas lets us use the Altar of Despair to revive Annalise.
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Boom hammer or Amy arm
Just for fun
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>>165153267
Amy is funner, Boomhammer is more effective. Both are kinda eh
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>>165154236
Amygdalan Arm is way better than Boom Hammer in terms of moveset, but Boom Hammer does more damage.
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>>165154236
Guess I'll just use both thanks for the insight
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Anyone want to do Headless Bloodletting Beast?
Pass is bbg, ringing now
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>>165155168
Be there in a jiffy.
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Post reaction when first frenzy
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>>165155246
Thanks bud
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>>165155397
Getting frenzied turned you in an anime girl?
>>165155435
That was someone else. I thought I'd make in time, but you two probably went in too soon.
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>>165155501
Made me cute !
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>>165155397
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Are radial+triangle+waning versions of the weapons worth a damn?
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>>165155397
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>>165155397
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>>165155671
For Fire/Bolt/Nourishing/OoS setups yeah.
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>>165155397
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>>165156004
The spreadsheet in the pastebin says all those use radial/radial/triangle or waning.
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>>165156309
>Two radials and a triangle for physical, bloodtinge or arcane damage.
>Two radials and a circle for bloodtinge only.
>A radial, a waning and a triangle for split damage that needs nourishing gems and for fire/bolt damage

That's what it says for me.
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>>165156973
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XYzO2js7ggvPEg8125SIKDo6anvqirI2Dxj2JvYR0uM/
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>>165155397
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>>165155397
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>>165157229
>The Arcanist Cookbook

I'll be honest, I've never bothered checking it out. Iirc it's from Reddit. I'm guessing this is for early game setups. Late game when you get to the gem farming you'll want Lost for everything I mentioned, OoS is situational though.
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From the top of Djura's tower you can clearly see Central, Cathedral Ward and the Great Bridge. It's definitely the Great Bridge because the Church of the Good Chalice is directly below it. But from this angle you can't see the Grand Cathedral. Grand Cathedral is by far the tallest building in Cathedral Ward so there's no way it's simply obscured by something else.

Did they just fuck up and forget to place the model or is there some time travel bullshit going on, i.e. "Old Yharnam" means literally Old, like it's in the past before the Grand Cathedral was built.
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>>165155397
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>>165155397
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Who /ahh/ here?
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>>165149448
blood echoes? vials? what?
echoes just maul your way through the whole town once or twice
blood vials kill all the ogres, wolfmen, wolfbeasts, and sewer shamblers
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Is Madara's Whistle a reddit meme or is it actually useful on BLT builds?
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>>165161017
I'm more of a "Ooh! Majestic!" kind of guy personally
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>>165155397
>still a frenzy virgin
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Is this fine for a bowblade build if I just stack clockwises?
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>>165161060
It's more of a 'you come to me' tool, hard to pull off especially in PVP, but very powerful if pulled off right.
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I tried doing chalice dungeons for the first time, just finished lower loran, but I need to go back to lower pthumeru to get the arcane haze extractor, yet I don't have any pthumeru chalice in my inventory (probably after transferring to ng+?)
What do I do? (already did BSB, but I still don't have the basic pthumeru chalice)
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I DEMAND an explanation of the forest snakes, vermin, silverbeasts and the association with loran right fucking now.
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>>165161060
It's not particularly practical, but it's fun to use.
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>>165161684
Snakes: The scourge affects different animals in different ways, as we have seen with humans, dogs, and even fish to an extent. This is a snake's evolution when introduced to the scourge.
Vermin: Similar to the way Vilebloods see Blood Dregs, League hunters find the Vermin when memorizing a specific rune (runes are essentially the scribblings of madmen). Vermin is the source of man's impurity, thus making it capable of being present in beasts, humans, and Great Ones.
Silverbeasts: Loran is an older land, and possibly had a different strain of scourge. It affected the silverbeasts in this manner.
Loran: Loran is connected through the Nightmare Frontier (Silverbeasts and Amygdala), possibly partially moved there when swept away into the nightmare. Some of it was undoubtedly absorbed into the nightmare, similar to the Lecture Building, after dabbling with the beasts, the scourge, and the Great Ones.
This is all speculation on my part, though.
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>>165161634
What the fuck
No they don't disappear after a new playthrough
What the fuck did you do
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>>165161387
No, take every point outta End and move em to Vit. You'll want at least 40 Vit while running 2 Clocks and 1 Anti-Clock.
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>>165162601
I have no idea, but I just used the makeshift altar for co-op and the beckoner was in lower pthumeru.
Guess the problem is solved either way
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Which holy moonlight blade is the best for arcane build ? Normal, Lost Uncanny? Anyone up to clean hunters nightmare with me ? Ringing hell, pass: kosm
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>>165163483
Normal or Lost, depending on your stats and what gem setup.
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Are beast claws a quality weapon or can I just pump str, since I want to go with cutter as well
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>>165163765
Str/Quality, you can go pure Str if you want. 50/25 Str/Skl is optimal.
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Anyone else think that Bloodborne had a lot of wasted potential?
Like take Cainhurst for example, it could have been much bigger with an extra boss or two and expanded on the Vilebloods vs Executioners
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Can someone help me with the gatling gun NPC and Ludwig? Ringing a bell in first lamp, pass: haha
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Someone has some good clean pictures of MORE BLOOD Boomhammer Hunter?
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>>165164362
Yeah I thought I was just getting started there and then, bam, Logarius. Pretty awesome area though, gorgeous.
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>>165164676
honestly one of my favorite areas. honestly a dlc related to the vilememes and exememes couldve been interesting
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>>165164362
yes. more should have been in byrgenworth, cainhurst and mensis BUT i'm not complaining about content or game length. it would just be nice with a little something something in those places
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>>165165595
yeah byrgenwerth is a bigger offender considering how important it is in the lore
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>>165165595
dlc relating to the powderkegs (i know thats afew weapons in the dlc by them) couldve been very fucking fun aswell
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beast claw or bowblade build? I can't decide bros, both seem fun as hell
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in the ending where you turn into a slippery slug do you think you as a great one can leave the hutners dream to be a slippery slug anywhere else?
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>>165165868
Dlc with workshop of Otto leading to Powder Kegs and the Church Workshop where you meet human Ludwig and Archibald.
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>>165165868
tfw no powder keg covenant
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>>165163625
If I have 50 arc and minimal requirements on the rest for Ludwigs, normal uncanny or lost ? I can farm any gem
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>>165166101
Beast Claw on a Strength build is great for PvE. How do you plan to use the Bowblade? It's an okay Skill weapon and great as a Blt weapon but might get boring just shooting everything with arrows. 50/50 Skl/Blt is pretty fun.
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>>165166480
LHB or HMS? If it's the former, Lost for Fire/Bolt and Uncanny for Arcane. If latter, you don't want base Str/Skl for HMS.
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>>165166480
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/best-blood-gems-setups.html?m=1

Check the OP
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>>165166837
Should I level up str and skill for holy moonlight ?
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>>165166114
>wanting to leave the doll and not nurse from her sweet paleblood
Probably when youre older though
You have to leave to make the qt proud don't you?
SHE DIDN'T RAISE A BASEMENT DWELLER
>>>/r9k/
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Finally reached Djura the other way around. He gave me a hunter's mark and a gesture. Any more dialogue from him later on or do I kill him now?
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>>165167190
Yes, 25 Str should be enough. Most of the blade is Physical while the moonbeams are pure Arc. 25/25/50 is a good build for it but if you wanna stay at a lower level you could stick to 12 Skill.
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>200 hours played
>still haven't gotten to hear the doll's hidden message

please dolly please
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How do you coop in a chalice dungeon (non-root)?
Beckoning bell is greyed out, but I thought these dungeons are the same for everyone.
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>>165167591
What's the hidden message?
I've probably heard it 20+ times without realizing
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>>165167436
He gave you the Powderkeg badge, not a Hunter's Mark. Kill him for the armor.
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>>165167698
it starts with "oh flora of the moon" or something like that
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>>165167736
No, I got the badge by killing him in NG, I'm in NG+ now.
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>>165167436
>killing Djura
>ever
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>>165167824
Ah okay, just kill him.
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jesus the beast cutter is so unwieldy
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>>165167697
Just ring your bell. You're either playing Offline, ringing at a bad spot, no PS+, no Insight, or killed the boss on that layer already.
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>>165167865
Djura is a delusional bleeding heart moron.
A hoonta must hoont.
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>>165167485
Ok thanks, so is the uncanny or lost version of HMS better ? I've heard about farming amyg and wanings etc, I don't mind, just want to hear a plain opinion on which would you choose
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>>165167758
Not him but I use to get that several times. It's been a while since I've heard it, it usually happened when she prayed at the DLC grave but whenever she prays she just stands up.
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>>165167758
>800 hours played
>still haven't gotten to hear the doll's hidden message

Please Dolly please
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>>165168019
see where that took eileen the shmuck. lying there in a pool of her own filth like the old coot she is while djura is eating yummy vegan food on top of his sweet tower
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>>165168206
I often see her at that grave but still haven't heard the monologue once.
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>>165167938
I wish the R1's and R2s chained a little better.
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When you kill Gehrman and MP shouldn't the doll disappear?
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>>165168490
what why?
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>>165164607
I gotchu famygdala

I have two others I think
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>>165167938
>that faint ringing after every untricked slice
>that transform sound
>that followup R2
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>>165168067
Normal or Lost. Normal you'll have to farm 2 gargoyle/Rom Radials and 1 Amy Triangle. Lost 1 Radial and 2 Amys for a Triangle and Waning. Both have very similar AR when every gem besides the Waning have +15 Phys secondaries so it doesn't matter. Normal for an easier time, Lost if you don't mind farming Amy. There's no real useful secondary on the Waning slot so any secondary on it should be fine, +15 Fire/Bolt on the HMS won't help it much, it's okay if you like the effect when it hits.
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>>165168593
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>>165168534
I don't know, I thought that when you kill the host of the dream she would disappear.
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>>165168383
Feels like they removed it to be honest. It triggered when you came from either behind her or the workshop but not anymore for me.
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>>165168768
Thanks my keen Hunter.
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>>165168768
BOOM
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>>165168935
This idiot is burning his own hat.
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>>165169054
[powderkegging intensifies]
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So except for Chapel Dweller offering his friendship, no other rewards from him if I brought 4 citizens?
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>>165169225
Is his friendship not enough for you?
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>>165169225
w-what about me anon
you're not gonna leave me here when there's plenty of space in cathedral ward, are you?
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Which weapons are the best at breaking enemy poise or hyper armor or whatever the fuck it's called? So you flinch them and prevent them from completing their attack?

I'm guessing the hammer does it best with R1's?
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>>165169225
If you want rewards just help out your good friend Iosefka or the beggar
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>>165169330
wew he scared the shit out of me when he turned, what an intense motherfucker
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>>165168231
You mean at the bottom of the tower
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>>165169330
Iosefka has loads of space. She will cure you.
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NG+ Father Gascoigne took me five tries.

Didn't know I sucked that bad.
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>>165169363
LHB L2s, Beast Cutter R2s, most if not all charge attacks. Most Strength weapons have the best Poise breaking, faster weapons usually stunlock smaller enemies better. Kirkhammer's R1s are okay but you gotta make sure you aren't hitting stuff with the shockwave instead of the hammer itself.
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>>165168005
figured out the probem; beckoning bell is disabled when you're close to the fog gate
that said, anyone willing to help me kill headless bloodletting beast in layer 2 great ihyll? pw 8998
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>>165168913
I think it has something to do with the DLC, I used to get the dialogue at least once per playthrough, but after getting the DLC I haven't, the doll prays at the grave sometimes but she just stands up when I get close.
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>pull of the 'jump cheese' on Amy last night
>webm it
>wanna share it with my bros at /bbg/ and celebrate learning a new boss strat
>post it
>get called Lucifer and told to fuck off

Why is nighttime /bbg/ so shit?
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>>165169569
Paparama doesn't fuck around
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>>165169860
Because we just had christmas and the general is infested with newfags.

I should make a bigger and updated version of this
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Are there any more oob boss jumps like this one?
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Hunter's Nightmare is the absolute worst area in the game, followed closely by Nightmare Frontier.
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>>165169860
Becuase Luci spams his shitty boss cheese webms all the time and several others have posted their webms of themselves doing the amygdala cheese. Hell, Luci apparently likes to spam his boss cheese webms at the start of threads now for no reason. They get kinda annoying.
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>>165169860
Nighttime/Euro bbg is usually slow and cranky
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>>165170538
I agree about Frontier but Nightmare's great imo. What do you hate about it?
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Is 50/25 good for stake driver combined with some heavy abyssal gems?
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>this is considered ripped in Yharnam
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>>165170753
Yes, you'll only want one Heavy. 2 27.2% Physical gems paired with it.
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post hoonters lads
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>>165170814
>being a slow ass meatloaf when beasts are hiding everywhere
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>>165170538
I just started running through the first portion of HN after awhile. Those fucking REEEEEEEE hunters got old quick.
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>>165171129
>being a skinnyfat trying to wield hunter weapons
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>>165170649
The area's cool, I enjoy the aesthetic and the whole "beast vs. hunter" thing they have going on, but there's just too much absurdly frustrating shit that happens. The chaingun hunter in the cave, the clusterfuck in the blood river, the convoluted design thanks to the tree roots or whatever, and the fact that just about EVERYTHING has poise/stun immunity.

It's manageable, yes. The hunters are incredibly easy to parry or just whack to death even though they have shittons of HP and two-shot you at any BL below 120, it's just an extremely frustrating area every time you go through it. Maybe I'm just still salty as fuck over the explosion near the boom hammer, which you had no conceivable way of knowing ahead of time would be there without using a guide. I can't think of any area in the other souls games that threw as much raw shit at you except for 5-2 in demon's souls.
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>>165169860
>tfw that was me who said that
:^)
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>>165171543
>the whole "beast vs. hunter" thing they have going on
I loved this, but it instantly fell apart when you get halfway through and the hunters didn't respond AT ALL to the bloodlickers in the river. You could argue that they don't want you farming easy souls, but chalice dungeons exist so it's a bit of a moot point.
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>>165171543
>5-2 in demon's souls
>mfw I went for BlueBlood build
>mfw going through 5 before any other area

Those were fun times. Still not as bad as doing ToH early to get HMS though.
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>>165171301
>hunters derive strength from blood
>thinks they need muscles
Beastly idiot.
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>>165171543
>5-2 in demon's souls.
Fuck, I wish I still had my old pictures. The giant plague dreglings were the meme kings of the old days.
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>>165171543
>stun immunity

My kirkhammer disagrees
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The brainsuckers in upper cathedral are full of shit.
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>>165172227
>Isz root dungeon
>Multiple rooms with two brainsuckers, leading up to brainsucker boss
I don't have enough fire paper for this
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>>165169569
What the fuck is this
Is your moonlight even upgrade?
If you don't have it Lost with 3 nourishing gems on it then you're doing it wrong
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>>165172138
>>165171543
Speaking of which.
>decide to do a Beastcutter run
>cool as fuck weapon
>slow too
>tricked R2 doesn't even stun the pale men in the Cathedral Ward
But why? Why, From?
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Beast Cutter is pretty shit.
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>>165172990
Yeah, no.

Just a plane Jane regular one. +9. Not even 10. Never even done a chalice dungeon.

>this triggers the autist
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>>165173083
Also forgot to add
>shit scaling
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>>165172451
>fire paper

Nigga wat
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>made a crowsteel cosplay character
>feel edgy as fuck
I can't take this
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>>165173272
Kek I'm just trying to help you m8
It's like you don't want 1000+ AR
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what version and gems for chikage? :^)
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>>165173863
Lost Korean gems
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>>165172138
>Healing church weapons

I hope you mangled and twisted vilebloods, with every inside on the outside, for all the world to see
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Why does reddit love leveling endurance ridiculously high for no reason? I always keep it at base level, it's literally wasted points to make it any higher than 10.
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>do arcane playthrough
>get tonitrus
>feel dirty using it because of its gorillion damage
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>>165174394
Because not everyone wants to cap themselves at 98 like an autist
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What's the soonest you can get kidnapped?
I skipped BSB, killed Amelia, and the sackman isn't near the chapel.
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>>165174747

You do need to kill BSB in order for snatchers to appear, if I'm not mistaken
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>>165169658
Wow you're really right about Ludwig's Holy Blade L2 attacks.
I just stun-locked a nightmare executioner with them as he was trying to cast his AOE axe-bell thing. I've played through the game like 4x but never really fucked around with LHB until now.

Also yeah the beast cutter's second chained R2 seems to knock anyone to the ground
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>>165174747
Kill Bloodstarved Beast
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>>165174684
I think 98 is garbage meta and I love crushing 98fags (like Luci) but Reddit's 150 meta is still ridiculous
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>>165174394
END yourself.
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>>165174684
>>165175476
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>>165175619
End to 15 is good for heavy weapons and keeping the pressure. Anything beyond that is worthless.
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Bloodletting Beast tips pls
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>>165175797
>stay directly under him
>he only ever stomp and jump back
>roll r1
Repeat
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>>165175797
i'm stuck on him too right now, you wanna cooperate?
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>>165175619
>a /bbg/ meme is reddit
Lurk moar
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>>165168913
I got it just a few days ago.

I think you might need to hear it before activating the DLC, once you go to Hunters Nightnare for the first time and activate the tombstone it could become impossible to hear.

Basically if you spawn in the dream and notice doll isn't at her usual spot SPRINT up to DLC headstone. If you delay at all you won't hear it.
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>>165175968
it worked, thanks
>>165175998
just got him solo, sorry
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What are these offerings you can add when making a root chalice dungeon?
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>>165175413
I thought their meta was 120
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>>165175968
wew that made it fucking trivial
>>165176291
me too, gl with the rest of the dungeon
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>>165176579
Those are specific items (yellow backbone, bastard of loran, etc.), they create Foetid, Rotten and Cursed (FRC) dungeons.Foetid and Rotten make harder enemies spawn, or make them stronger. Cursed dungeons cut your health in half only within the dungeon, but Deoth 5 Cursed dungeons yield the absolute most powerful gems.
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Can someone help me at Great Pthumerian Ihyll Chalice Layer 1 ? Pass: kosm, too much effort to git gud
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>>165176770
neat, gonna try foetid and rotted on this depth 3 chalice
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>>165139924
Vid
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>>165139924
VID HOLY SHIT

OR I SWEAR TO KOSM
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>>165175797
lock on to him most of the time so you can see his ground-pound coming; it is by far his most dangerous move IMO (if you are staying close to him, like you should be). As weird as the camera angle may be when locked, the fight is hard as fuck when you can't see the ground pound coming. If you're in melee range, you can't even look up high enough to see BLB's head (or severed neck) when he's about to do that move unless you lock on.

You just have to turn it off when you go under his legs, because that shit will just make you dizzy
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>>165176743
Lol I only learned that way after dying a thousand times my very first playthrough
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>>165177520
>>165177414
Vid mind
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>>165178027
do you have a strategy for laurence?
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>tfw never get any invasions at Cainhurst
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>>165179030
>tfw only been invaded twice but when I enter my friends world he always gets invaded

at least I've killed every invader i've ever seen
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>>165162501
>This is a snake's evolution when introduced to the scourge
The snakes aren't associated with beasthood in any way, they don't con't as beasts as an enemy type. They were affected by the vermin that the Madaras Twins spread in the woods, but not by the old blood, unlike the dogs, crows etc.
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Could this be the easiest room to fight ebrietas in? Also, going to post the gem she dropped.
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>>165179560
Actually, that would make more sense. They could have easily eaten whatever scraps of vermin were left over, increasing their size, but not nearly enough to become as large as the twins' snake grew.
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>>165179642
I knew exactly what that webm would be before I opened it. And it is top bullshit.
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>>165178712
First phase I treat him like cleric beast but I'm not as greedy and I keep distance of course because the AoEs
Second face I tend to stick to the left, especially when he's crawling around lol he can go in circles around you while you just keep slapping him
There's this swipe he does with his right hand though that deals a ton of damage so be careful when sticking to the left
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>>165179706
>20 rating abyssal gem
>ARC ATK UP 15.8%
>Beneficial 2nd effect
>No random curse

I know this is an frc chalice but I didn't know she'd drop something like that.
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What are your 3 favorite

Bosses
Areas
Armors
Weapons
Souls Games
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>>165180005
>frc
no, it isn't
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>>165179706
Donut hole arena is better imo cause you can just spam ACB over the hole without an obstruction
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>>165180074
In no particular order
>bosses
Ludwig
Orphan
Amelia
>areas
Upper Cathedral Ward
Research Hall
Central Yharnam
>armors
Crow Set
Executioner set
Henryks set
>weapons
Whirligig
Beast cutter
Kirk
>souls games
Bloodborne
DS1
One of the other 3
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>>165180005
You sure that's the right gem? The first screen shows your health being halved, and this one you have 50 Vit so the dungeon is cursed but not the gem.
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I have 30 insight and a shitton of madman knwledge what do I do with it
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>>165180209
>>165180492
Got my rites right here

>>165180230
Yeah but for this one you just stand there and wait until she sudokus which can be time consuming but safe.
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>>165180074
>Bosses
Ludwig
Orphan
Gehrman
>Areas
Central Yharnam
Fishing Hamlet
FRC Lower Loran
>Armors
Yharnam Hunter Garb
Choir Garb
Crowfeather Mask
>Weapons
Saif
Burial Blade
Kos Parasite
>Souls Games
Bloodborne
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls
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>>165180074
Ludwig
Gherman
Micolash

Research Hall
Cainhurst
Upper Cathedral Ward

Henryk's set
Charred hunters set
Hunters Set (variant with the little cape)

Beast Claw (vanilla)
Boomhammer
Kirkhammer

BB
DaS1
DaS3 (since the only other option is DaS2)
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>>165180765
>Micolash
triggered
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>>165180709
Donut hole is safe too. You just put the hole between you and her, and take her down faster too. No waiting for sudoku
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>>165180074
>Bosses
Ludwig
Gascoigne
Ebrietas
>Areas
Central Yharnam
Upper Cathedral Ward
Fishing Hamlet
>Armors
Black Church
Old Hunter
Choir
>Weapons
Logarius' Wheel
Bloodletter
Church Pick
>Souls games
Bloodborne
Demon's Souls
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>>165180492
Yup, I'm retarded. It's actually the cursed arcane gem below that one that she dropped, the rating 19 gem.
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>>165180709
Did you see Arcane Abyssal Blood Gem on your screen right after killing her? It could be the Cursed Arcane Damp Blood Gem (6) below it on the 2nd screenshot, or something else. If this was recent you could try saving a clip and hope it goes far back enough to see the kill, unless taking the screenshots reset it.
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>>165180074
> Bosses
Ludwig, Orphan and Gehrman

> Areas
Centeral Yharnam, Forbidden Woods, Research Hall

> Armours
Yharnam hunter coat, madman armwraps, tomb prospector pants, old hunter cap are my favourite peices for each slot. But it varies for each character.

> Weapons
Beast Cutter, Wheel, Blades of Mercy

> Souls games
BB > DeS > DaS1 > DaS3 > DaS2
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>>165181258
>>165181382
Lmao, nevermind then
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>>165180610
Buy Rocks
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>>165180874
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>165180074
>Bosses
Maria
Ludwig
Gascoigne

>Areas
Research Hall
Cainhurst Castle
Hunters Nightmare

>Armors
Knight Set (female)
Hunter Set (B)
Ghermans set

>Weapons
Burial Blade
Chikage
Rakuyo

>Souls Games
Bloodborne
Dark Souls 1
Demons Souls
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>>165181951
Rocks? Like blood rocks? I haven't seen them in the shop
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They should add a boss rush mode for practicing.
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>>165180610
Buy shit, you want every option in both shops grayed out.
I'm still working on getting 999 Bastard of Loran, managed to get past the 99 mark already.
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>>165182181
Yes, kill Wet Nurse to unlock them in the Insight Bath shop. 60 per Rock
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>>165180874
>this beastly idiocy
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when it says "dropped by watchers" is that a chance to drop, or is it guaranteed?
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Can we talk about hunter tools for an ARC build? I only really have a PVE perspective on these things, but I'd like to learn how to use them better. I'd like both PVE and PVP perspectives if you would, anons.

>Old Hunter Bone
This is just for PVP right? I can't say I've noticed an effect in PVE.

>Tiny Tonitrus
I can't see this being useful in PVE or PVP. Its damage is incredibly low for how expensive it is. Or am I using it wrong?

>Empty Phantasm Shell
Is this ever useful? It seems like a lot of things have arcane resistance and it only gives a flat boost.

>Blacksky Eye
King of PVE, but I bet it's useless in PVP, no?

>Augur of Ebrietas
This one is nice. Good damage, good knockback, and it parries, and you can potentially be unpredictable with it in PVP.

>A Call Beyond
Costly, and damage ranges from pitiful to assrape. Completely unreliable, it seems.

>Choir Bell
I wouldn't mind healing as a cooperator but this isn't really the kind of game were you do that due to the pace of it. Tis a shame.

>Beast Roar
This seems like it could be nice but I've just never been into Wrath of the Gods.

>Madaras Whistle
BLT aside, this is interesting. How useful is it?

>Executioner's Gloves
In PVE this seems useless as hell, mostly because the damage is lower than shooting 3 BSEs. Or am I looking at it wrong?

>Messenger's Gift
Shenanigans ensue, but overly is useless.
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>>165182502
Every gem type is dropped by chance, none are guaranteed. A gem is guaranteed from CD bosses but they won't always be 27.2% Phys. Physical gems are common from Watchers.
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>>165182502
Chance
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>ywn explore Yharnam in its prime
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>>165180074
Gasciogne, Maria, Gehrman
Central Yharnam, Hunter's Nightmare, Castle
Crow, Graveguard, Knight
The one with the bow
DS1, BB, DS3
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>>165182702
>Executioner's Gloves
>In PVE this seems useless as hell
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>>165180074
>Bosses
Artorias, Ludwig, Demon of Song

>Areas
The tutorial section of Boletaria in DeS, the beach under the Nexus in DeS, Isz

>Armors
Aalva's Set, Dancer's Set, Fluted Set (Male)

>Weapons
Moonlight Greatsword (DaS), Holy Moonlight Sword (BB), Kirkhammer

>Souls Games
DeS, BB, DaS
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>>165183091
Am I doing it wrong or something? Compared to BSE, it's really costly, it doesn't do a lot of damage, and usually the homing factor doesn't matter. Although you do get it before BSE. Am I missing something? This is why I'm asking, because so many of the tools feel useless.
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>>165182785
It would just be a regular city but with weird statues and where everyone hates you
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So, my friend and I have been debating if the Moon Presence is even a Great One. I see it as something else entirely while he sees it as one of the older Great Ones like Oedon. What do you guys think?
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>>165182702
You're looking at Exe gloves wrong. Sure 3 BSE's out damage 1 Exe glove, but Exe is better for burst damage and stagger. The slow tracking can be useful in PvP for pressure and if you stagger someone it's a free hit. ACB is also about burst damage but needs high Arc to be useful. Tiny Toni is very situational, not good against single enemies but several lined up is where it shines, also needs high Arc. BSE is good for chip damage in PvP when your gunshots can't do any reliable damage. Whistle is eh, not so great in PvE but useful for aggressive players and ganks. There's also Accursed Brew, has a fairly good AoE and arcs which is good for headshots and free aiming.
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>>165183250
EG is way stronger than Blacksky Eye and it can hit the head of a large boss such as Amygdala, Watchdog or Laurence for massive damage without risks. It also decimates poise, constantly opening the bosses for visceral attacks.

ACB is also extremely reliable in pve, but only against large enemies.
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>>165183250
I can't really remember if BSEx3 strictly does more/same damage than gloves, but they hit pretty hard regardless.

Not a lot of hunter tools are useful in PvP, you have to be unpredictable with them. BSE is fast an inexpensive. Gloves are better in PvP because of the homing.

Tiny Toni is situational as hell. OHB is for style points only, though you can play really aggressive against shit like Abhorrent Beast if you know what you're doing. Augur is great but if you use it in PvP and they dodge it you WILL take a lot of damage.
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>>165180074
>Bosses
Ludwig
Maria
Gerhman
>Areas
Cainhurst
Hunter's Nightmare
Loran
>Armors
Hunters(without cape)
Old Hunters
Henryk's
>Weapons
Ludwigs Blade
Saw Cleaver
Beast Cutter
>Souls Games
Bloodborne
Dark Souls
Demon's Souls
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>>165182702
PvP Perspective
>OHB
Hilariously ridiculous for DashR1 spam.

>TinyT
Shit.

>EPS
Shit.

>BSE
The be-all, end-all Tool. It is the Arcfag's Evelyn. Anytime your enemy does anything that isn't strafing or hitting you with an attack, they're getting hit for 100-300 damage.

>AoE
Kind of shit but if you get your opponent to walk into it, or are actually good enough to use it on purpose for interrupting, it can be good enough to warrant the quickslot space.

>Choir Bell
Un-interruptable heal. Pretty gud.

>ACB
You will never hit anyone with it, but if you do, it causes a knockdown during which your enemy is vulnerable to follow up attacks.

>BR
Shit.

>MW
A Tool you can kill yourself with

>Executioner's Gloves
The pre-BSE BSE. Obsolete. Enjoy getting BSE'd when you try to fire them off.

>MG
Hide in shrubbery/ behind low-standing objects for ambushes.

PvE perspective:

They're all shit except for
-Augur for emergency, stamina-free knockdown on medium-sized bosses
-BSE for its utility
-CB for heals
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I realize this isn't really the place to ask but I can never get an answer in /dsg/. What is the level meta for Demon's Souls? I don't expect to get a lot of player interaction later but my autism likes to make builds.
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>>165184464
>BR
>Shit
Found the guy who doesn't invade the Research Hall
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>>165184569
120 in DeS.
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>>165184569
DeS was the originator of the 120 meta.

You'll probably never see anyone that high there though. Stick to 40-80.
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>>165184464
>exe gloves
>bad
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>>165155397
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>>165175619
>shitting on the END
Fuck off newfag
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>>165184569
100-120 I think.

But if you actually want connectivity I'd stay around 50-60 at the highest, no one is duelling but you might get some random invasions.
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>>165183504
Well, as far as my build goes, I'm rolling with 50 ARC and making those comments. To address them...

As for damage, I hit about 300 with BSE and about 700 with EG.

> Sure 3 BSE's out damage 1 Exe glove, but Exe is better for burst damage and stagger.
From a PVE perspective, the burst damage isn't really needed usually as things have loads of health, and things tend to stagger easily and be ridiculous at taking BSEs up the ass. I see that being very useful in PVP though.

About ACB, is there a way to ensure it does a lot of hits on bosses? Most casts tend to hit for 200~300 x 4, but sometimes it'll just take half the boss' life bar off if the moons align and lots hit.

About Accursed Brew, I don't have it in my inventory. Is that an item like Molotov Cocktail or is it a tool like BSE?

>>165183849
Thanks for the feedback. I got that feeling on most of those, but I didn't know about the Abhorrent Beast thing. I wish Tiny Tony was more useful, so I could be all like ZAP MOTHAFUKKA

>>165184464
BSE is that high in PVP? I'd figure it'd be easy as hell to dodge, and it leaves you decently open too.

Choir Bell is uninterruptable?

Also I was thinking about EG and BSE, if you alternated the two, wouldn't that make some opening in the whole mind game thing?
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>burnt out on bloodborne after playing it for a straight year
>get ds2 sotfs as a late christmas gift
>it's still as unfun as I remember it being a year ago before I sold my 360 and games for my bloodborne machine

From I really really need more Bloodborne DLC I can't fucking do this, think of the children
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>>165184152
That hunter looks like Wojak
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>>165184908
>I'd figure it'd be easy as hell to dodge
It is. That's you fire it to punish anything they do that isn't dodging, like stopping to shoot or fire EG, or especially bait R2s.

>Choir Bell is uninterruptable?
Un-"parryable".

>Also I was thinking about EG and BSE, if you alternated the two, wouldn't that make some opening in the whole mind game thing?
The (smart) way to avoid either is dashing, typically backward, especially against EG. So, probably not really.

I've caught people who liked to dodge into EG by firing EG a few times and then an ACB, though.
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>>165176770
so do cursed dungeon enemies drop the same quality gems as enemies in foetid-rotted-cursed dungeons? But the enemies that drop the strongest gems don't spawn unless it's foetid and rotted too?
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>>165184718
>exe gloves
>good
Nigga, it's almost impossible to get hit by those things in PvP, just i-frame through them.
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>>165185397
In PvP EG isn't for doing damage, it's for pressure and spacing.
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>>165184908
Yeah Accursed Brew is a Tool like BSE. Uses 2 bullets per cast, 2 BSE's usually out damage it but iirc it also does righteous damage so it could probably top it against some enemies. Feels like it does more against Undead Giant than 2 BSE's. Uses the same animation as Fireballs from Dark Souls so most people use it to free aim in PvP. Switching around BSE, Exe gloves and Brew is great. 50 Arc ACB is pretty underwhelming, aiming at the body of large bosses usually helps hitting more missiles than aiming at the head. Setting up HMS charge r2 with a follow up r2 after casting Exe gloves is satisfying as hell against hunters/NPCs. Staggering with gloves is best with humanoid enemies, BSE doesn't give you as much time to get hits in with your weapon.
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>>165184464
>ACB
you mean A Call Beyond or Accursed Brew?

you didn't mention one of them, either way
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>>165185204
>DLC where you meet powder keg hunters and get more of their weapons
>Cainhurst DLC with edgelords everywhere, blt hunter tools, some expansion of the vileblood queen and the ring
>Actual Isz and Loran areas DLC
>lots more chalice types, room types, enemy layouts, etc
I want more BB.
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>>165186002
what happens if you shaman bone blade the big spider
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>>165185204
DS3 dlc, it's the same shit
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>>165185938
A Call Beyond.

I've never seen anyone hit anyone in PvP with AB. Far as I'm concerned, it's shit.

Okay in PvE though. Does okay damage to Amy's and Hotdog's heads. And it has some spash damage for groups of trash mobs.
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Logarius bros, do you guys use base mode or transformed mode more? just got mine today. is it worth investing in ARC btw?
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>>165186116
It would be extremely painful

It attacks the little spiders
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>>165186116
It attacks and gets attacked by the other spiders
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>>165185391
Foetid and Rotted are mostly memes.

If you are farming mobs for gems you need Foetid to buff certain enemies and give them better drops (eg Red Aura madmen drop rating 18 gems, normal madmen drop rating 17 at highest). Rotted is for unique enemies like Ritekeepers and stuff, if you need Healing gems it's useful but otherwise it just spawns bullshit like Witches of Hemwick and offers no benifits. Rotted may be nesisary for NPC Huntets but I'm not sure.

Foedid and Rotted MIGHT improve overall loot quality, but I don't think anyone's actually tested it.

Cursed is the only one that affects boss drops.
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>>165186209
Wheel is at its best with 25str 50arc and in transformed mode.
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>>165186209
I have a build for the tricked form and one for the untricked, I love both but they're not compatible.
Investing in arc is mandatory for the tricked and completely useless for the untricked.
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>>165185391
Cursed straight up drops the best gems, foetid and rotted don't. Cursed gems are their own thing, bigger bonuses (usually) but they come at a price, some worse than others. Foetid and rotted really just exist for the fun of it, Cursed is for grinding.
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Who's down to co op on ludwig?

Pass is bbg
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>>165186209
In tricked mode it has S arcane scaling and 200% more than listed arcane damage.

Untricked mode is a uglier Kirkhammer, tricked mode is the ultimate STR/ARC weapon.
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>>165185368
That ACB thing is interesting. I'm curious about how they wound up falling for that, but playing and understanding PVP are two very different things.

>>165185815
Damn, I somehow missed it in my first playthrough, so I'll have to run through NG+ DLC. Is that as painful as it sounds? The DLC on NG fucked me up pretty hard.
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>>165184781
>all that END
>258 stamina

what an incredible waste. I can get 242 stamina with 40 points in END plus the same 3 runes
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>>165180074
>bosses
Gehrman, Gascoigne, Maria
>areas
Fishing Hamlet, Hypogean Gaol, Cainhurst
>armors
Brador's set, Hunter's Garb (B), Tomb Prospector's set
>weapons
Threaded Cane, Rakuyo, Kirk
>Souls Games
BB > DeS >DaS > the rest
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>tfw you've entered a glyph so much you've memorized it.

LOL PWMF22GU
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>>165186510
Untricked mode is the viable version of Kirkhammer.
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>>165186591
But where's the fun in that?
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>>165186563
>I'm curious about how they wound up falling for that
It's called "conditioning" in Fighters. Basically, you fire an EG and see what they do.

If they dodge through it, you wait a bit and fire again.

To your opponent, they see your arms go up, assume it's EG again, and dodge forward.

So
>arms go up; dodge forward, through EG
>arms go up; dodge forward through EG
>arms go up; dodge forward, oh shit, that's not EG, now I'm too close to escape the projectiles
>spam dodge and either get hit or not by a free ACB

Typically fights in BB are too short for any actually effective conditioning. In FCs if you fight the same person a lot though then it can come to play.
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>ATK down % curse

>>165186778
>not just copying and pasting it
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>>165186563
If you got decent gems you should be fine. For an Arc build getting decent gems for NG+ is difficult without getting to FRC. Experiment with Tools more, mostly each of them are great in their own ways and take advantage of their nature. Really the only useless ones for Arc builds is the Shell, Whistle, Choir Bell and Messenger's Gift.
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Hemwick witches were the laziest bosses I've encountered so far. It was easy but half the fight was just wait for those old pieces of shit to show their face
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>>165187283
you can see them of you get close to them while running around
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>>165187283
>run around looking for them for 2 minutes straight
>sprinting, run face first into them as they use their stun
>longest grab animation in the game
>spams their exploding AoE attack as I get up
>die
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>>165187230
I have the platinum trophy so I've done everything on this character. I use HMS and Church Pick (STR/ARC). As for gems, I'm currently working on getting thrust + 32%s for the pick, and I have 2 nourishings for the HMS. So I'm not optimal but I'm not maxed yet.
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>>165187283
it's a pretty crappy bossfight but hemwick is at least a cool area

don't tell me you didn't love it when you went down the stairs and saw those two ladies dancing and loving the night of the hunt
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>>165187563
>picture
What in the almighty fuck is that thing?
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>>165187675
Rock throwing assholes from the nightmare
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>>165180074
>bosses
Gehrman, Ludwig, Orphan
>areas
Old Yharnam, Hunter's Nightmare (first area), Castle Cainhurst
>armors
Executioner's set, Knight's Garb, Choir Garb
>weapons
Beast's Embrace claws, Burial Blade, Holy Moonlight Sword
>Souls Games
BB > DeS > DaS = Das3 > Das2
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Neato
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>>165187563
>sprinting in that room around a room with invisible enemies
>surprised when you get fucked
that was your own fault
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>>165187648
What's your stats? There's not a lot of reasons to farm 32.6% Thrust gems for the Pick on a Str/Arc build when you can just convert it.
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>>165187816
Oh right. I think the PTSD made me disassociate from all memories of them.
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>>165187868
is he stronger than the ones guarding the Wet Nurse?
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>>165187984
It's a PVE only build so 50 VIT, 40 END, 49 STR, 27 SKL, 9 BLT, and 50 ARC. What are you talking about when you say convert it, because I thought that thrust +32% is highest damage you could do with the pick since it deals exclusively thrust damage.
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>>165188291
>49 STR, 27 SKL, 9 BLT, and 50 ARC

>49 STR
>27 SKL
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>>165188291
friendly recommendation: don't spend time grinding gems for such an overleveled character if you ever want to co-op or pvp
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>4 visible ritekeepers and a 5th behind the elevator

Send help

>>165188251
Nope, he was just as weak as those.
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>>165188291
he means make the pick do all elemental / arcane damage, since you have ARC.

then the thrust gems wont do anything anyway
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>>165188291
Not really, most of the tricked moveset is thrust and adepts work on it if you have 50 Skl.
If you don't want to stay at low level bring everything to 50.
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>>165188439
I'm still leveling up anon.

>>165188478
I understand that about PVP but it's not a problem with passworded co-op. I'm just not stopping leveling really. It's a character to help people through the game with and to help you guys speed through the game on your underpowered characters like BLT builds.
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>>165188291
Tricked mode does exclusively Thrust damage, untricked is kinda 50/50 Phys and Thrust. Slotting Fire/Bolt/Arcane gems on weapons convert them, ignoring their Str/Skl scaling while using their Arc scaling. I guess with 49/27 Str/Skl you can use 32.6% Thrust gems, but with 50 Arc you could also convert it. It'll remove Phys/Thrust damage, it keeps the Serration and Righteous bonuses though.
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Why the FUCK does the hunter after ludwig have such gigantic HP?

>can't fight him upstairs or else the magic slut is gonna shoot my ass
>going downstairs is a narrow as fuck corridor
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>>165180074
>Bosses
Ludwig, Geheman and OoK
>Areas
The area around the cathedral, probably because there is so much you can to from there.
Research hall. Not sure about the third.
>Armors
If /fa/ then knight's set, old hunters set and Henryks.
>Weapons
Currently really liking the saw spear, despite it beeing a rather boring weapon.
Still have many weapons to try out
>Souls Games
Bloodborne.
Haven't played others
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>>165188913
I only use tricked mode with it so that's fine with me. About conversion, I thought that was considered bad, even for ARC builds. Can you tell me more about that?
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>>165189036
You mean the one in black with untricked Ludwig's Holy Blade? I'm pretty sure that's actually a she. At least it was a she on my playthrough.

Also yeah she is extremely dangerous. Right up there with church pick hunter, bloody crow of cainhurst, and the DLC gatling gun hunter. Her sword does insane damage and she spams it so fast. If you get stuck in a corner / on the geometry you will get shredded
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>>165189470
Most enemies have lower Fire/Bolt/Arcane defense than Phys defense, so conversion is usually better if you don't use BB pellets on Phys builds. It's almost required to use converted weapons on Arc builds since pure Fire/Bolt/Arcane weapons only scale with the Arcane stat while ignoring Str/Skl, which Pure Arcane builds usually keep low. There's a guide in the OP for Arcane builds but since you're kind of at the end the last parts will be useful.
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>>165155397
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Are the doll and lady Maria unique models or is there sliders for them?
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>>165188589
HAHAHA
yeah I've been there
If the fireball spawns on you it deals like twice the damage
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>>165190191
Unique.
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>2017
>not using fire converted whirligig saw
plebs
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>>165185527
This

Executioner gloves are fantastic for setting up attacks

I could break the arcane tools in duels/invasions/PVE better but fuck it
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>>165191052
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why does kos parasite have to be so shit in pve
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>>165191717
Nice micolash kosplay or some say kosmplay
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Anybody else notice what happens to the skeleton dudes in yahar ghul when they run through the guys on fire in the middle of the street? feels like its supposed to do something cuz the glowy white fire effect goes away from the guy in the street and transfers to the skeleton. am i just overthinking this?
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anyone wanna help me with loran layer 3 abhorrent beast? password is bbg1
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>>165194016
Ringing
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Anyone wanna do failures and Maria? pass is bbg1488
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thanks cinder and blueperson, much appreciated
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>>165144163
>implying it wasn't just that Gehrman fucked the corpse of Kos
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how come I can never dodge after I get hit until it's been like 0.2 seconds or something? People say you cannot get stunlocked in this game and you can just immediately dodge, but that's bullshit in my experience. I mash dodge like there's no tomorrow and it never happens until after it shows my character flinching for a hot second

if you're getting hit repeatedly by more than one enemy faster than your flinch animation, you will get stun locked and be unable to escape
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>>165194401
No prob ;)
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>>165194570
Who's stunlocking you? If it's ganks, you will get stunlocked if they get the chance. Lead Elixir is useful for this.
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>>165194570
>by more than one enemy
There's your problem. You're not supposed to get surrounded, draw them away from the group and deal with it one on one if you're not confident enough.
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>>165194269
Omw
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so im currently on: 25/12/10/11/5/50 (SL63). Where should i go now to fuck things up in pve and pvp while staying with the SL98 meta?
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>>165191717
Fucking sick
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>>165194961
40 Vit and 70 Arc for Pure Arc, 40+ Vit and 25/12 Str/Skl for Str/Arc.
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>>165194961
Vit. You can also invest a little more in str or skill if you want weapon variety.
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>>165194269
You at the big doors or on the floor? Hitler is on his way
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Hitler appreciates your help, Hitler. It's nice to have you back, Hibiki.
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>>165194836
>Who's stunlocking you?
Spiders. Shadows of Yharnam. Ritekeeper goon squads. It can happen with any group of enemies. This guy has a combo that hits 4 times so fast that I can never seem to dodge out of it until the final blow.

>>165194893
not saying it's not my fault. I'm just debating the notion that you can always dodge away in Bloodborne if you are fast enough at the controls. I've asked before and everyone said you cannot get stunlocked in BB
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>>165195218
wouldnt i be stuck with shitty saw spear though for fire for the rest of time though?
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>>165195589
A Hitler is a Hitler
Even in a dream

Bully Maria?
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>>165195589
I'll be ringing at Maria's fog.
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Beast form is fun as fuck, how do I make it stronk?
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>>165195789
>>165195776
Need a third Hitler?
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Okay, lore time; what the fuck ARE Blood Echoes anyway? What are they echoes of?

I'm asking because there's a twist in the previous Souls games that your currency/level are actually feeding the villain or the death machine at the end of the game.
In Demon's Souls, you're just collecting souls that you'll eventually give to the Old One if you choose the "bad" ending. Otherwise the souls never pass on to their final destination and Boletaria just becomes more limbo-like.
In Dark Souls, your souls just mean you'll burn brighter in the Kiln. And your Humanity/Dark Soul are manifestations of the Abyss (I think). Your ability to have both retains your sanity and allows you to either spread the fire or the dark.

So, presumably Moon Presence is the one that's maintaining both the Hunter's Dream and the dream world that is the "Night of the Hunt". He animated the Doll, the Doll turns your echoes into strength and if A) you "wake up", your echoes remain there, B) you beat Gerhman, you replace him and maintain the nightmare, or C) you beat Moon Presence and transcend the hunt/the need for echoes altogether.


But where do they come from to begin with? Are they some sort of remnants of long dead Great Ones, and Moon Presence is just picking up the pieces?
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>>165195873
QUICK
MARIA GATE
PASS= bbg1488

The lady jewia is concealing a secret. We must wrench it from her bosom
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>>165195639
Ah yeah I know that attack. The big spider can stunlock the shit out of you too. I'm guessing the Katana Shadow is the one that can stunlock you. There's very few attacks that can stunlock you or give very little openings to dodge out of like Anchor Shark Giants charge. Whoever said you can't get stunlocked in BB was wrong.

>>165195765
Pure Arc can use Cane, Axe, Cleaver, Spear, Parasite and with your 11 Skill the Saif. If you're alright with that and love Hunter Tools, go Pure Arc. If you want more weapon options, go Str/Arc.
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>>165195873
Fuck

Turns out I don't have the DLC cleared on this NG+ cycle yet. Sorry Hitlers.
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>>165195958
It's the sound blood makes, it has something to do wiith Oedon.
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Thanks for the help lads. I'm actually the one who made the Hitler sliders >>165195873 is using, but I only now bothered to try to finish my build.
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>>165195796
50/25+ Str/Skl, 1 Heavy and 2 27.2% Phys gems. 50/50 with 3 27.2% if you're willing to go above 98. Run low Insight, wear high Beasthood armor for a higher Beasthood meter.
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>>165195958
I thought it was just stronger blood/the player recovering from their motive sickness to how they used to be (Hence the starting classes being key points about you that you could never lose)

I suppose that it could be you MP theory, but it seems too straightforward for a souls game, especially twice in a row.
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>>165196260
I made my own sliders tyvm
You ringing or what?
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>>165196134
alright fuck it il do 70 arc,i thought stopping before 75 if you go above 50 is stupid or is that just a meme spouted by faggots?
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>>165196370
thanks
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>>165196606
Never stop between 50 and 99 Arc, it's not worth it. You will be better off investing it in something else.
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how do people get killed in the hunter's dream, I keep seeing spectres around the doll. I'm on NG+ and still can't figure it out.
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>>165196797
why?
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>>165196606
99 Arc is a meme if you plan on staying at 120 or below since you'll have to run sub-40 Vit. 70 is fine, having 99 Arc at Bl98 is not a good idea. Stuff like ACB will be underwhelming at 50 Arc so those extra 20 points really help it.
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>>165196606
Dont stop now you are over 50, you have to comitt to 99 otherwise you get the worst of both worlds
>Weaker Hunter tools (never stop scaling)
>Wasted points for a Str/Arc build you aint getting back

It is no meme. Less health for a near guaranteed oneshot ACB is a decent trade, along with über strong Blacksky, Auger and AccBru, with Kos Para which is maxed out anyway
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>>165196829
Idling with the Chikage.

Or killing themselves in ritual sacrifice to the doll. Which a lot of people also so in abandonbed workshop.
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>>165197031
>killing themselves in ritual sacrifice to the doll
wut
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>>165196829
Wheel, Chikage, Bloodletter, HP Deplete gems, falling over and over from the DLC grave. There's also Hunter Dream PvP but it's not a common reason.
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>Die to merciless watchers in lower pthumerian
>ok at least the boss room is small so getting my echoes will be easy
>echoes literally nowhere inside the boss room

??????
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>>165196927
The only reason to go above 50 is for hunter tool damage wich scales all the way to 99, stoping before it is like doing a 30-40 Skl build. Sure, it might work but will not be as good.
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>>165196981
>Can oneshot most with ACB
>Le 40 Vit meme needed ''just in case'' they can close an Auger gap
Fuck off reddit, they could put on all three clocks on, stamina is of little concern.
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>>165197282
A blood licker that hasnt spawned yet has them
You need to do one more visceral on the boss (?), beat it, go up and down a layer, then kill the blood licker. Had the same problem
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>make arcane build
>8 hours in
>hate it
fuck it. fuck the tools aswell.
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>>165197282
Go to the next layer and come back. There will be a bloodlicker with/nearby your echoes.
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>>165197317
>ACB and augur in PvP
Lmao have fun being open as fuck using easily dodgeable tools while getting one-shotted. 3 Clocks ain't enough either.
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>>165197507
Git Gud, you have a hard start for a strong finish
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>>165197507
that's why I always create a high level character who can wield almost anything so I can try things out before making a whole build.
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>"Another is the Boss Rush effect, in which you'll have to battle a few bosses one after the other, in a room that's exclusive to the effect."
Where is it, From?
Where is it? Oh, what I would do for a data mine of this game.
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>>165197660
but it will never be as strong as whirligig with bbp while sticking to the 98 meme
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>>165197507
8 hours? you should have a good setup by now and augur to cheese with
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This shit hits too hard.
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>>165197834
and its still boringand see >>165197768
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Not too keen on Korean Minmaxing for gems, especially since I realised that the grade V chalices take wayy too long.

Would the Winter Lanterns in the Fishing Hamlet be enough? They go up to ~22.5% as far as I am aware.
I can work with one more hit to kill in PvP/FC, but not 2-3.
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>>165198095
22.3%. They're okay for PvE but meh for PvP/FC. You'll be at a noticeable disadvantage. Normal 27.2% Phys gems aren't Korean-tier, neither are most Arc gems. OoS and Bone Ash Hunter gems are.
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>>165197505
>>165197580
Well shit, I already went back to hunters dream

Echoes going to enemies seems so bugged, sometimes they just go to an enemy through a wall or something
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>>165195958
I can't remember the item description, but I was always under the impression that they were simply the memories/experiences of whomever they came from.

If you suddenly had the knowledge of great ones, aliums, and an entire city you'd probably be a pretty good hunter, too
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>>165198317
Right, so get through to Iryll an do a few FRC's on a Friday Spelunk and I should be set?
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>>165198364
Going to Hunters Dream doesnt affect echoes you know. Just getting killed
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anyone wanna help me kill laurence?
beckoning on the stairs outside fog gate, pw 2323
ill try not to fuck up
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>>165198630
Depends what gems you're going for. Spelunking random dungeons also won't guarantee the right gems either. If it's 27.2% gems, you'll want Ihyll Watcher glyphs for Radials and Isz Watchers for Triangles.
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Anybody want to help me with nightmare Frontier? It's driving me up the fucking wall. Pass is bbg and ringing near the lamp.
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why hasnt alfred become a beast assuming he takes blood which i assume he does seeing as the executioners are related to the church?
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>>165195958
They are echoes of the will of individuals cursed by the scourge. I think you are feeding the moon presence with them. I remember seeing some lore theory on that and why the moon presence wants the other great ones dead. Can't remember if it was vaati or not
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>tfw walking away from an area, returning and seeing all the bodies flop around
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>>165198990
>>165198867
First to reply gets me
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>>165199315
laurence
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>>165199315
Nevermind, I guess I already cleared NF and forgot. Weird. Help the other guy.
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>>165199279
>walk away from an area, return
>all the bodies exploded and became blood waterfalls
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>>165199626
kek, wtf
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>>165199383
Password 2323 ringing now
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>you will never be able to save gilbert
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>>165198772
It despawns the bloodlicker that had my echoes doesn't it? And since the watchers are dead I can't spawn another in the same room
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>>165194570
you dodge when you release the button, not when you press it

that could be your problem- holding dodge a little longer than is necessary
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>>165199939
You will never be able to save yourself from the Yharnam Madness
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>>165199841
bizarre, why isn't it working?
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>>165200083
Nope. Either Echos will make a puddle as usual, or you need to go in and out of the room to get the fucker to spawn. You're safe man.

>>165199841
Are you there m8?
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Question, Im making a pve character with no level limit.
At the moment Im on 50 vit, 50 arcane, 50 skill, 25 endurance, 20 str, 20 bloodtinge.

What would be better to get to 50 first? STR or Blood?
I don't know how much more damage would my pistols and shit do at 50.
Does the transforme Moonlight Blade gets damage from STR?

Thanks
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>>165200337
sure am, I'm standing on the stairs
I'll relaunch bloodborne and ring again, it's been running a long time and maybe the online fucked up
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>>165200083
I don't know what those anons are talking about.

I farmed rpk watchers the other night, died in the boss room, couldn't find my echoes, killed watchers, and my echos were right there in the boss room. No lickers anywhere.
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>>165199032
that's why he kills himself, he knows he's succumbing to beasthood

all the people mumbling about 'he wanted to become a martyr' are presumably misinterpreting his lines about wanting Logarius to become a 'true martyr'
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>>165200139
Did you ring Beckon or Resonant? Some people just get them wrong way around on occasion? (Only see Resonant Ghosts is all..?)
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i fucking FINALLY beat Laurence holy shit. been a while since a Soulsborne boss kicked my ass this hard, last one was probably Ancient Dragon.
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>>165199032
He offs himself before he turns. A true Martyr.
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why does what looks like hair come off you when you get hurt? is it becauseyou're becoming a beast slowly?
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>>165200443
Str for most melee weapons, definitely good for HMS. Blt if you wanna try out Bloodletter, Chikage and/or get some more out of your guns.
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>>165199939
>You will never send him to clinic so he can go to outer space to find a better place
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>>165200669
beckoning
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>people actually choose the hunters axe over the saw cleaver
kek
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managed to finish him, thanks censored name cooperator
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>>165200443
50 Bacon Lettuce Tomato to access Memeage
50 Strength to drastically increase Ludwig's New Player Friendly Blade
Oh yeah I just went there

Afterwards prioritise accordingly
1.End (40)
2.Vit
3. Most used Attack Stat
4. Arc
5. BLT
6. Least used Attack stat

>>165200669
Sorry for getting killed my dude, can't use fire resist fashion, because Hitler doesn't go near the ovens too much in my headcanon
>Double Visceral though
This game still keeps on giving
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>>165201413
Good one my dude. But still
>Double Visceral
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>old blood will never cure your lonliness
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>>165201505
ah, didn't know they censored hitler, thought it was only cuss words
shame the double visceral didn't deal double damage
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>>165200762
>>165201505
Thanks bros
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Got a fresh frc ihyll created if anyone is interested in spelunking in it.

Glyph is g4hbdt92
Pass is spelunk
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>>165201302
hunters axe has a really satisfying moveset plus the rally makes it easy for baddies to r1 through
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>>165201738
>Fromsoft thinking they could ever stop the Third Reich Bantz
Anyone, else need some help in the maingame/DLC, I'm ready to help(Not all chalices complete though...)
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>We will never get a Bloodborne prequel with Aileen turning from a cute innocent hunter into a full fledged Hunter of Hunters after she is raped
>Or a prequel with Djura's change of hearth and the exile of the powder kegs
>Or a prequel about what the fuck happened with Irreverent Izzy or Carryl
>Or a prequel about Paarl slowly helping you through the game until he finally turns into the first Darkbeast
>Or in general a prequel about Loran or Old Yharnam
>Or a Demon Souls remaster with the 6th Stone and Ice Giants level

I feel depressed just thinking about it and how probably they got that shit in other paralel universes
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Any of you fine Hitlers want to help King Hitler with NG+ Living Failures? I'll be ringing at the fog wall shortly, pass is sieg.
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>>165199626
It's a weird visceral glitch, if you visceraled those two lads, the blood just gushes down the front because I guess that's just how the texture loads in or something. Looks cool, though.
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>>165202575
I got you
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>>165202538
>Aileen

Bloodborne doesn't need that. Why would you want to actively ruin the game's mysteries?
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Which area is better for Echoes farming after a new game?
The Lecture Hall students or the Pigs and Shadows near Mergo's?

Students right now give me like 90k with all the moon runes equipped.
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>>165202575
Omw, I am but a normal Hitler, oh great one

>>165202538
>Doesnt say Eileen-Hoonter of Hoonters
Hunter origins=Meh
Loran=Piqued interest. Not many Middle East/India games, bar Prince of Persia or Assassins Creed 1 off the top of my head. With the East India Company being around the Victorian era (Bloodborne setting), it could work quite well with some of the old Fromsoft polish. Hey they made Victorian London work, before most other AAA's caught on (Order 1886, AC Syndicate etc)
DeS Rem=Meh. i always thought the Frost giants slowly became the Nightmare Giants in BB
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>>165203328
Isz layer 3 Ayys and Wolves
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>>165203328
Low key, the crawlers at the bottom of the research hall give similar echoes to both in half the time
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>>165196134
katana Shadow can't stunlock you alone, but he can with the help of the other two
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>>165203694
>low key
?
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>>165202575
Damn, you NA? Got huge lag for quite a bit of the fight, not sure if it were clutter or connection (EU). Did you beat them anyways?
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>>165204257
Your sacrifice was not in vain, the Living Jews were slain.

Yes, I'm NA.

Maria will be later, for the time being I have a bit of business to attend. Will post again when I get back.
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>>165204257
Yeah we beat them. On to the edgelord herself or does Adolf want to solo her?
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>>165204074
Not well known, little secret of mine, don't tell everyone, keep it low key etc
IE Low Key, but do you know that milk builds strong bones?
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>tfw overleveled during my first ever playthrough
>tfw cant channel my Blood Echoes without feeling like a shitter
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>>165204371
Good luck then freindo, happy hunting gassing
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>>165204257
I'm the other summon. Wanna help me with some dungeons? I really wanna get them over with so I can get good gems already. My damage is pretty ass atm.
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>you will never find the guidance 3 rune hidden inside the doll
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>>165204808
Which dungeons? I myself am moving through them, so I can help only to a point (Too stubborn to get help, I want to solo them at least once)
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>>165204553
Turns out you have to Make Contact at her for a straight 24 hours.
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>>165197734
It's in depth 5 Hintertomb, along with guidance 3
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>>165205635
meant for
>>165205378
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>>165131760
which voice do I go for "HEY"
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Oh wow, you can chain backstab + visceral attacks with the beasts embrace claws jump attack if you start a new jump attack as soon as you can after the visceral ends. I just did it to a nightmare executioner
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>>165205607
Lower Pthumeru with undead giant and last section
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>>165205971
Nightnare executions can be chain backstabbed by a bunch of stuff. I know Blades of Mercy and Saw Cleaver/Spear are fast enough, probably some other weapons to.
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>>165206031
Kk, at Rom anyways, so ill come help, password=bbg
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>>165174658
It breaks so fucking easily though, and the reach is super short which is a disadvantage at times.
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Holy shit, ng+ is a big damage and health spike
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>>165206494
Only in the beginning areas. It's hardly noticable in later levels
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>Ican't enjoy it because the multiplayer is hard
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I killed BSB, but didnt fuck with that gatling gun faggot. Is it worth it going back and killing him? also, I have like five of the same gem. where do I get gems that help arcane?
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>a tomb prospector is guarding the boss door

I can see your shadow hibiki.
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>>165206921
Just play the fucking game.
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>>165206921
Kill Paarl and go to him from the back without killing any Beasts from the front to befriend him. Follow the Arc guide in the OP.
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>buy Bloodborne cause /v/ cays it's amazing
>no minimap
Into the trash it goes, how am I supposed to navigate all this shit?
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>>165206323
Ringing
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>>165204371
>>165204650
Alright boys, let's gas the bitch.
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>>165204487
Oh I see, thanks anon.

>>165203674
>Isz layer 3

Oh the Chalice with the Brainsucker?
I wanted to avoid that shit, fuck that guy, but I guess it can't be helped.

I fucking hate the ayyyyyyy type boses.
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>>165206921
Killing BSB gave you a chalice, go to the tombs on the left side of the hunters dream and use it. Arcane gems await from the 3rd boss in the dungeon and farmable from certain enemies. There's also a fire gem in the main game coming up soon.
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>>165206323
>>165207514
Oh never mind, lets fight Maria
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>>165206921
Dont kill gatling gun. Loop round later and talk to him
Arcane can fuck off for all you care atm, paper will do. Don't confuse yourself for your first run, and for gods sake, don't look anything more up (What I would give to play though the game fresh again). Focus your main Str or Skl. Also check back at the chapel for your next area to go through. Try not to summon and don't come back to /bbg/ or r/Bloodborne (Just in case of Plebbititus) until you see the credits roll. See you until then
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>>165207663
Nvm, literally just killed him in 30 seconds, Blades of Mercy lock too strong I guess
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Being a shitter is pretty cool.
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>>165208128
What BL/Stats?
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on a SL98 str build is it worth putting one extra point taken from vit to put into skill (bringing it to 13 from the 12 for whirligig) to use the cannon?
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>>165207485
>Not being spoonfed
>Throws toys out of the pram because the HUD is minimalisitc, and not CDPR tier cluttered
>What, so I can't negotiate with the cleric beast to leave? How am I supposed to do a pacifist run then?

8/Bait-kys faggot

>>165207713
Password=sieg?
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So am I supposed to just keep clearing these story chalices until there's nothing left to do? I just want gems. The OP isn't helping me.
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>>165208384
Yes, PvE works wonders against weak headed bosses, PvP is more for a Str/Blt build, but I use it to force people to come closer for more action with the old chop chopper
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>>165208530
Yes. The OP has a speed run guide to FRC dungeons.
Ignore root chalices for now. Just do the main ones. Pthumeru, Central Pthumeru, Lower Pthumeru, Ailing Loran, Lower Loran, Isz, Defiled, and Ihyll to get access to all the depth 5 roots.
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>>165207514
>all those blood echoes I missed out on
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>>165208725
When do they start getting challenging? I waited to ng+ to start.
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>>165208402
Sorry anon, you were too late. But you can still help me with the dungeons.
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>>165208384
Sure, Strength doesn't have a lot of ranged options. You can fit 25 Skill in a BL98 Strength build without any major loss in Vit.
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>>165208891
never
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>>165208402
>pacifist run

Tbh I would've liked it if you had high enough insight you could become friendly with some of the great ones like Ebrietas, or make the byrgenwerth students non hostile and even attend a lecture
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>>165208891
You're way over leveled for them. Might start seeing a challenge at around Isz/Lower Loran and beyond.
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>>165208891
Mostly just the last couple are kinda iffy. They're designed to be beat over the course of the game so you fucked yourself in the ass by waiting.
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is there any way to make a good arc build for 98 meme for pvp? or is arc mainly for going up to like 120
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>>165208530
Gems are late game, Korean tier PvP requirements
To get through the game, farm the Winter Lanterns (Walking Brains with eyes on them found in nightmare areas) in Frontier, Mensis and Hamlet chronologically. You should end up with ~+22%
If you are after PvP gems, after you get to BL 98(meta), just breeze through the main chalice dungeons, then come to Spelunking club on Fridays for PvP viable gems. If you haven't finished your character build yet, don't even worry about it. Average PvP gem is ~+27% with true autists going weeks to break 30%
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Alright, Anne Frank has been successfully gassed, but there's a whole village of disgusting monsters to clean out behind her. Anyone want to run NG+ Fishing Hamlet with me?

As before, pass is sieg.
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Is rayuko any good?
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>>165209342
>Forgot image

Fug
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Many thanks hibiki
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>>165209273
Cruel Fate: 40/12/10/9/5/50. After that, decide to go 40/70 Vit/Arc for Pure Arc (with 11 Skill for Saif) or 25/12+ Str/Skl for Str/Arc and however much Vit/End you can fit in.
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bravo procedural generation
at least i could open it
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>>165209342
Wish I could but my Pimp Cane doesn't do quite enough damage for an NG+ Fishing Hamlet so its certain death for me
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>>165209183
>Pacifist Bloodborne
>Ebrifag
A U T I S M
A F F E C T S
E V E R Y O N E
D I F F E R E N T LY
I T S
A
S P E C T R U M
Y O U
J U S T
H A P P E N
T O
B E
N E A R L Y
O F F
T H E
C H A R T S
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>>165209574
Just break the first chest.
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>>165209342
Ringing
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>>165209757
you can break chests? does the item disappear?
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>>165209273
Cruel Fate with 45/15/18/14/5/50 is fine for an Arc build ad comes in at 97. It can use every convertible weapon in the game except Rakuyo.
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>>165209183
Get the fuck out of this thread you piece of shit
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>>165209879
No.
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Anyone doing FRCs and in need of some help?
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>>165209635
?

I Ebrietas was just the first great one I thought of because it's non-hostile and optional

Amygdala is pretty committed to murdering you for whatever reason and Rom is required to kill (altho finding him in NG+ or something with 99 insight and having it be different would b cool)

I dunno I just want more NPCs, the ones we get aren't super interesting except for like 3
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>>165209879
Dunno about the item disappearing but you should get the item before breaking the chest just in case.
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>>165209879
No it does not
t. Accidentally broke a chest once and spooked myself
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Why do some hosts flee when you kill the help? I've never understood that.
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>>165210167
>>165210279
>playing dark souls 2
>enemy fucking breaks a chest
>look up what was in it
>actually good weapon I would've used

Fucking ds2, chests were made even worse with the fact mimic grab hit boxes were completely fucked wnd could reach behind them

it was about 70 hours before I stopped checking for mimics in bloodborne
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Mfw I finally get Hunter covenant
Its a gank spank

>>165209384
Near OP when transformed. On par with the Chikameme in power if used correctly
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>>165210429
Because they know that they'll die so they try to run back to the lamp and think they can just return to the dream.

>mfw they learn the hard way
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>invade someones world
>just running circuits around mergos
>start sending him messages on psn
>im immortal
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>>165209342
Are you ringing or not?
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>>165210817
I think it's less to do with thinking they can return to the dream and more putting their bloodstain in a risk-free environment.

>mfw I have Blacksky Eye on the hotbar

>>165210942
Been beckoning for a while, at the Hamlet lamp.
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>>165209543
i thought arcs stopping points were 50 and 99?
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Asking again, can someone come along and do the dungeons with me? I've done them once alone and I didn't really enjoy them due to them being an absolute borefest but I need those blood gems. Is anyone willing to spare a hunter a hand?
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>>165211117
He started at 40 vit so his advice was obviously going to be bad.
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>>165211236
I would if I was at home
Sorry friend
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>>165211117
It has multiple softcaps but as long as you have high Arc you should do fine. Don't listen to 99 Arc memers
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>>165211117
TinyT and ACB have a breakpoint at 70 Arc.

Most people will tell you it isn't worth stopping between 50 and 99 though and I tend to agree.

If you're going to use Tools only, you want 99 arc. Stopping earlier'd be like making a Strength build but stooping at 40.

If you want to use converted weapons you should stop at 50. Even at 99 Arc your weapons are only going to be doing ~15% more damage.
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>>165211236
>anime picture
No thanks
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Rip censored Hitler

Chilling at the Lighthouse Hut if you want to ring back in.
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Who wants to help a 27 Vit WHEEL Hunter get Holy Moonlight Sword?

I'm at the Church lamp in the Hunter's Nightmare. Pass is WHEEL, all caps. BL49 I know I know, underlevelred but I got this far. Please. Help me. A terrible beast is coming.
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>>165211372
whats wrong with 40 vit
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>>165210429
I dunno
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>>165212025
I'll be there in a few minutes
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>>165212017
Rip again

Back at the Lighthouse Hut, shortcut is open. I want the rock though, hope you guys are alright with fighting Winter Lanterns.
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>>165210817
This
If you ain't in Loft, you ain't getting a fair fight/duel. I try to invade wherever, and of around 20-30 invasions from Central to Mergobase, I have had 2 proper duels, of which one 1 the host BBed
One cheeky fuckers charged R2 backstabbed me whilst I greeted him in Old Yharnam, typical overlevelled chikameme shitter
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>>165208251
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>>165212345
It's too low, for one thing.

More importantly it ends in a weird place where 39 would be more efficient/aesthetic for 1304HP, but is also too low. Going to 41Vit lets you get 1702HP. Much more aesthetic and survivable.
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>>165212526
Yeah, Punished Hitler here, the reason I keep getting killed is because I have 40vit
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>>165212972
>I have 40vit
Into the gas chamber it goes.
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>>165212817
>40
>too low
you know what runes are right? :^)
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>mfw fighting pthumerian elder for the first time

This guy's pretty cool. Too bad he rekt me though.
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>>165213062
With Clock (2)&(3) you end up at 1676, which apart from being a hideous number (which is really the most important thing here) it gets reduced to 838 in FRCs which is really not enough.
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Shit

Beckoning again at the Lighthouse lamp.

>>165212972
I have 41
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>>165213350
838 is perfectly fine for FRC, you get 851 with 41 Vit and 900 with 1801 (45 Vit).
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Took a few tries but thank you very much! We wheeled and we dealed. Looking forward to dueling you again next FC.
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>>165213554
A Hitler is a Hitler, even in a dream
Also slap on the kinhunter gem on your weapon for huge bonus for OoK

Why didn't you BB before the duel you Jew
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>All these people needing help
>immediately stops after I get off work
Night shift was a mistake
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>>165213969
Ook is not kin.
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>>165213969
Orphan is not kin, that would do nothing.

I forgot, I'm sorry
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>>165213930
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2008210?tags=homunculus_%28artist%29
What was your characters name in the FC?
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>>165213974
Wanna help me take on pthumerian elder? Pass is hmph
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>>165214086
Second phase is, not first, the wiki actually lies on this one
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>>165214231
I'm not off work for another five hours, by which time the thread will be dead
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>>165214314
>second phase is
STOP WITH THIS FUCKING MEME YOU DUMB CUNT
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what's the proper way to deal with the mad cunt in byrgenwerth? nothing but my tonitrus dealt damage and her magic meteor spam instagibbed me so I cheesed it with poison knives and kept visceral attacking her, but I'm pretty sure I'm missing something
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>>165214228
Kamui. I was the Cainhurst/Bone Ash hunter with the Bowblade/Chikage mix. I'm pretty sure we dueled before.
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>>165214314
Neither phase is, you've been memed
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>>165214402
It's alright. I was having trouble with him but I actually just beat him right now. Your reply helped me. :^)
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>run around in the world i invaded making the host chase me
>after about 20 mins i stop and he runs towards me
>silent blank out just before he reaches me
am i a bad person?
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>>165214314
While that's also false, even if it weren't my weapons are gemmed with FRC autism and it'd still probably be detrimental.

Good shit though, thanks for tagging along for that. Want to fight Laurence?
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>you'll never be able to dual-wield two stake drivers and go ham on enemies like this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d-xREfdihtY
>1:10

Hold me guys...
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>>165214554
If you're using Toni, I assume you're an Arc build. Exe gloves to stagger her and spam r1. You can shoot to stop the ACB.
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>>165214590
Darn. Das ist nichts git
Alas the grand jew is dead. You have saved children for generations to come for their jewry. Now you are ready- to grind for fight club gems
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>>165214554
Nope, the npc hunters are just broken garbage that fromsoft never decided to fix so be prepared to deal with more of them.
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>>165214314
Orphan is not kin in any phase, you dumb cunt.
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>>165214942
>tfw people still believe he is
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>honorabu fights in mergos
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>>165214554
Beast Roar her into a corner and R1 spam
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>>165214783
>You will never be able to dual-wield weapons
>You will never get a special moveset for certain weapon combinations
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>>165213000
>http://imgur.com/a/gKDpE
I know that lot of European cities have this design, but few have the Angel's Share.
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anyone up for an impromptu fightclub?
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>>165215945
>>165214813
so the main way of dealing with her is cheese huh? alright I feel a bit better about being a poison spam cunt
and no, not an arcane build, just early enough in game that the toni does a shitton of damage even uninvested, and just happened that her physical defense was a bit too high for me
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impromptu fightmemeclub in
>thinking anyone will join
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huh so you can hit multiple enemies with one shaman bone blade if theyre close enough

had a spider RIGHT up the chime maidens ass and it hit both of them, the enemies kill the spider first then the maiden
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>>165216395
I would
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>>165216395
>>165216675
noone? :^)
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>>165216395
Where?
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>>165216395
where?
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>>165216395
I'm down for an improptu fuggin at your mom's chalice room
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>>165217031
see >>165216675
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>>165217128
i just wanted to have funs
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>>165216394
How does this image make you feel /bbg/?
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>>165216473
At such a low level as you would be a Burgertown, yeah. NPC hunters are always difficult, to be honest.
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So... Anyone actually want to have an impromptu at Isz?
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>>165217349
Sure
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>>165217297
She's a heavy sleeper
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>>165217349
but i put loran ;_; guess il go fuck myself then
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>>165217264
Sorry m8, I would actually be down for one right now but the family is hogging the tv

>tfw no portable Bloodborne
Would make chalice farming more tolerable
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>>165217297
>tfw couldn't bring her to the dream to meet the doll
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>>165217349
>>165217485
isz fightclub it is then i guess
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Can anyone help me with lower loran layer 2 abhorrent beast? I almost get him every time then die
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>>165217726
omw, password?
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Would it be a mistake to use the Chikage and Bloodletter in the same build? I want to attempt a pure Bloodtinge build eventually, haven't used the Chikage in awhile, and never used the Bloodletter before.
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>>165217526
get the playstation app and use your phone as a second screen

>>165217753
bbg
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>>165217779
No, it's ideal. 14/50/50 Str/Skl/Blt for Chikage, Bloodletter and Bowblade.
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>>165217779
take 2 points off vit and add them to str for the min requirement, so yes seeing as its only 2
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>>165217801
>get the playstation app and use your phone as a second screen

Wait is this an actual thing? This changes everything

Omw, plase don't be bamboozling me
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Jesus I just want some chalice co-op for some easy insight and possibly chunks but these hosts are so god damn retarded

Like why is that nine times out of 10 the host will want to run through the pre-boss side area only to die to basic shit? Especially in the fucking defiled dungeon.
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>>165217779
do the 98 meta, not this >>165217867
shit :^)
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>>165217297
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>>165217801
searching
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>>165218102
alright im waiting by the lamp unless you're using SRRC idk how that works at all
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>>165217779
Whoops, meant to put 15 Skill, not 50 on >>165217867
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>>165217867
Okay, based on this, how does 45/18/14/25/50/15, starting with Noble Scion sound? I want to keep 15 Arcane to use the Beast Roar, and this setup would put me at 117.
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>>165218209
using srrc, just ring the bell like normal and hopefully itll find you
>eventually
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>>165218368
cool been ringing for awhile so im gonna go grab a snack and drink while we wait in case you get in and im afk, wont be long
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>>165218248
Also, goes without question to say Lost Chikage, right?
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>>165217970
You know anon, if you want do some chalice co-op and get easy insight you can help me do the main dungeons, if you want
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>>165218356
>117
stop it.
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>>165218356
Put Skill at 15, you won't use Bowblade and Chikage untricked unless you went 50/50. Made the mistake of putting 50 instead of 15 Skill but if you don't care about 98 meme meta you can go MV: 40/10/14/50/50/6 though you'll lose out on Hunter Tools.
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>>165218532
>being a 98 nerd
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>>165218426
are you sure the password is bbg? been searching for 5 mins now
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>>165218464
Normal for full 27.2% Phys, Lost if you wanna slot a single 31.5%, any for full 31.5% Korean OoS. For OoS you'll want the versions you have the gems for.
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>>165218729
yep, we can try another pass if you want
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>>165218658
>being a 100-120 shitter
>>165218809
i doubt itll make a difference but put the password as bbg1
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>>165218869
alright, changed it and rerung to be safe
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>>165218580
I'll use this as a guide when making the build. I couldn't care less about the 98 meme, it seems willfully weakening yourself, so I'll try to keep it at 117 or so. Bluntly, I don't want to lose some hunter tools, the Beast Roar has saved me many a time from red spiders. This certainly seems like it should work, and seems like it'll be fun. What guns would work best for 50 Bloodtinge, regardless of other points?
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>>165218734
So, use the Bowblade, Bloodletter, Rifle Spear, and Reiterpallasch until the right version can be determined given the gems?
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>>165218869
thanks dude, I wouldnt mind help with layer 3 too if you wanted
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>>165219206
NS: 40/8/14/15/50/15 puts you at 92 so you have room for more Vit and End. Evelyn for general use, Repeating Pistol for more damage per shot (great with BMA), Blunderbuss with a BSB Circle for more damage close-range (more than an Evelyn if most of the pellets hit), Piercing Rifle for style. With 28 Strength you also have Gatling Gun and Church Cannon, Gat is good for chip damage and CC for burst damage.
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>>165219398
whole floor or just the boss?
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>>165219537
boss, ill start ringing now and rush lever
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>parrying dagger could have let you parried and used the WA of your right hand weapon
>instead you block with it
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>>165219319
If you're going for Korean OoS gems yeah. If not, Normal or Lost (normal for Bloodletter since Lost doesn't have a Circle slot). Rifle Spear and Reiter aren't good for Pure Blt, don't forget the Chikage.
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>>165219470
50/18/14/20/50/15
Level 117, Chikage damage just over 400, Beast Roar available, continuation of my dedication to the 50 Vit meme (if it is/still is), Bloodletter and Bowblade hitting like freight trains. I never thought it could be this rewarding.
Thanks for the help with this one. Until I can get the Chikage, how difficult can I expect this to be?
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>>165219745
wrong thread amigo :^)
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>>165219745
>You've come to the wrong place
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>>165219754
The Rifle Spear would be used to carry over until I could get my hands on the Chikage. Gunning for Lost Chikage might not be the best idea, considering that we can now just buy all the upgrade materials we need, so if I find it, I'll make the decision then.
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>tfw kill myself with madaras whistle more than I do hosts
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>>165219745
Are you a /dsg/ user? Well, that's very odd.
Do you hear the toll of the bell?
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dammit Claire that was close
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>>165219745
better go back the way you came cunt
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>>165220580
Yep, 23 health left
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>>165220250
Yes, I do.
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>>165219914
Not at all with a Saw, BB Pellets and Papers. You can treat it like a BL4 run with more Vit and Blt, or a Skill weapon since you're going with 20 Skill. Imo I'd rather go with 28 Strength than extra 5 put into Skill.
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>>165220932
Hmph. Liar. Such pettiness will be your undoing.
The Dark Souls discussion you seek will not be found here. Go back to your thread, and if you have the chance, put this one behind you.
...places better left untouched, secrets better left alone...
...only a fool would so brazenly roam...
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>>165221008
This cleared up a great deal of misconceptions I had about a Bloodtinge run. You've been a great help, thank you so much.
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>>165220932
liar!
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Jesus mang, that jump attack hit for 700 damage

Saw Cleaver too stronk
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>>165220250
So who can hear it exactly?
I know nothing about this guy but he's a really cool looking asshole
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>>165221180
>>165221493

Opened door with Underground Cell Inner Chamber Key.
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>>165221831
Pray you never hear this bell. Better yet, ensure yourself you never hear it. The prying eyes of those determined to unearth what was buried in decency will find only the Church waiting for them.

In other words, head back to /dsg/ unless you have questions about this game.
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str or skl /bbg/?
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>>165222197
Quality :^)
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>>165221897
Well, well, look who's here. Welcome to my quarters. I've never entertained a guest before. Are you going to finish your blood-stained work? Or perhaps beg my forgiveness? Well, leave off. What's done is done.
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>>165222337
R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1
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> died 25 times trying to reach fishing hamlet shortcut

Fuck Brador that Lead Elixor chugging asshole, at least I know how he magically got poise now though.

Fuck those jumping snails

Fuck the skull-magic spammer

Fuck the Lightning dude who can hit me on the ladder

Is level 50 too low to be here or what? It took me an hour to beat the two giant sharks in the well, but everything else has been doable, huge difficulty jump after Amelia though.
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>>165222556
Nigga, DLC content is end game content, like level +65 with Mensis gems.
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>>165222556
Kinda yeah. Recommended level for DLC is 65+ lmao, congrats on making it so far at 50.
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>>165222517
Nothing changes...such is the nature of man...
Hehehehe...hh-hahahaaaa...
What a champ you are for using the Dark Sword. Really. Amazing. Just wow. Applause.
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>>165168935
Why is the boom hammer so fun to use!?
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>>165222791
[Bloodletter]
that was the meme :^)
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>>165222117
Anon I'm not the Dsg fag
I have 700 hours in, I'm just curious because it just calls him the healing church assassin that scalped his friend
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>>165223000
[Bell rings one last time off in distance]
Good, at least you acknowledge the meme.
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>Rakuyo phantom range

Jesus fucking Christ, how did this get past testing? This is ridiculous.
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>>165223289
Okay, you concerned me for a second there. Sorry, that was a mistake on my part. And you are correct, the nice man in the cell is a Healing Church assassin who scalped a comrade after he became a beast.
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>>165223337
Rakuyo phantom range is old news my dude.

>tfw no more patches/DLC
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>>165223337
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>>165223521
Yeah I know that but it still triggers me every time. It's like you're fighting a fucking sniper rifle.
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Can anyone help me beat martyr logarius? I'm level 43 and kinda suck. If anyone is interested I'll make a password.
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So I made a Skill/Blood build so I could be a edgy vampire dick with a katana... But would it be weird if I just grabbed BowBlade and the Bloodletter, and I only used the latter in its tranformed form?
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>>165223337
>From makes a weapon with a hugely diverse moveset and can be used to make all sorts of combos
>Its only used to r1 spam with the odd l2
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>>165223453
as he summons himself everywhere in fish ham from laboratories he's probably the only one being aware he's in the nightmare
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>>165223621
I can be on in a few minutes if no on else responds, add and invite me to a party
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>>165221831
he was a church assasin and he rings the bell i assume to signify when he's around or when you're his mark as i think simon hears the bell and is killed by brador. so i think pretty much if you hear his bell then youre gonna be kill.
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Damn the cleaver is too fun

Anyway, Claire here, gonna turn in for the night, fun impromptu guys.
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>>165223727
Simon has his head on straight, and is one of the few NPCs in there who doesn't try to kill us at any time. He knows full well where he is, but isn't sure why you're there.
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>>165219921
>>165220070
>>165220250
>>165220682
Guys cmon, /dsg/ is our brother, we should be nicer
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>>165223857
>tfw i suggested it originally then didnt even go
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>>165223764
Cool is your trip your psn name?
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>>165223803
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>>165223897
you're right. We should be above that all.
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>>165223897
My post wasn't in bad blood, I even pretended to be /dsg/, I like the guy
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>>165223897
I know. I just felt like getting into the Brador role for a second, with preparing my Bloodtinge build.
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need some brador cosplays
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>>165224171
Gay.
im sorry i called you a cunt, we're all friends in /bbg/
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>>165224207
I can get behind this, just don't guzzle down Lead Elixirs like they're being outlawed tomorrow.
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>>165223662
No, that's how you're suppose to use it. It's a Church weapon, so if you care about lore/roleplaying it might conflict. Same with Bowblade.
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>>165217779
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>>165224207
I would if he didn't use the shitty ludwig rifle. Hate the way it looks.
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>>165224441
My question has already been answered, Lucy. You came late to the party. Thanks, but no thanks.
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>nothing but shitposts and noob questions all day
>play some DoA5LR
>miss an impromptu
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>>165224525
Yet another mystery of From will be why they didn't give him the Church Cannon. I mean really, it's perfect for him.
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>>165224567
As far as answers go, I saw the rest, so I decided to offer the best.
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>>165224758
What works for you might not necessarily work best for me. Consider that before you cram your builds down our collective throats. I know how I play. You don't. Go sell these to some poor sap who doesn't know better.
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>>165224976
>Replying

Just don't.

inb4 tripless trip
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>>165223998
Yes
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dont reply to luci just move along. >>165224976
stop acknowledging him
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>>165224676
Strength/blood but no cannon... really makes ya think...
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>>165225064
>>165225103
It's like picking at a hangnail; I know I shouldn't, I hate myself for doing it, but I do it anyway, and almost always regret it.
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>>165224383
Awesome, I don't have any other blood builds and the friggin bloodletter is so damn cool I wanted it bad.
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>>165224976
Except in this case it is the best option. BLT weapons tend to have poor damage on their untricked modes, so the focus should be on their tricked modes. That's what this is, plus it gives you the most variety.

If you want to disagree then feel free. You are perfectly entitled to your incorrect opinion
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>In Japan, the Bloodletter's name is "Phlebotomy Hammer"

wtf i want to be a bloodtingefag now
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>>165225303
No, it really isn't. Your pile of shit you call a build doesn't account for certain things I want. With the help of people here who aren't you, I made a build with what I want that works at all levels. I don't want the build, don't want to have one of my hunters tainted by you. Take the build to someone who wants it.
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>>165225642
stop replying to that faggot seriously
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>>165225550
Puts a whole new spin on some Church hunters being elementary doctors...
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>>165225642
>certain things

Let me know when you find those dancing pink elephants.
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>>165225728
Yeah, I'm done. I've had my fill for a lifetime. I shouldn't have gotten myself into this in the first place.
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>>165225836
>talks shit
>gets hit
>then starts circle jerking about how he never cared
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Welp, this thread's getting the Old Yharnam treatment.

NEW THREAD

>>165225921
>>165225921
>>165225921

NEW THREAD
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>>165225836
dont be more autistic than he is
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