/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

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For those struggling with Amy.

>>165225921
First for Bloodletting!

DOLL BUTT

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Bloodletter

Someone help. I accidentally got into an argument with Lucy about a build, and dug myself into a hole. Throw down a ladder that I may escape. I want to keep digging, but it'll just be harder to get back out.

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The amount of Vilebloods in the recent threads is far too high. We need to PURGE FILTH

Also a friendly reminder not to reply to trips. Keep this place as cancer-free as possible, please.

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First for lobster... I mean "Beware of pincer attack"

>>165226056
Goddamnit Luci... ruined my first.

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>>165226129
>youre situation

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>>165226197
You'll get used to it.

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IT IS NOW 1AM
DOES ANYBODY REQUIRE HELP WITH ANYTHING

>>165226340
>youre
>your
im retarded

also >>165226197
please do not reply to that failed abortion's posts

>tfw no slut wear

>just one cycled Rom with a random summon

Knew it was possible because it's featured in speed runs but I've never even come close to it. Guess that's the power of a gemmed tonitrus and an hmls.

>>165226478
BB's cosplay and slutwear game is super weak. Really the only two things any of the Souls games did better.

But Big M would say those two things have nothing to do with gameplay or his vision, and he wouldn't be wrong.

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>platinumed the game twice already

I don't even know what to do anymore

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Why didn't you protect her, /bbg/?

Bloodborne would make a great movie.

>>165226739
Go for the third time?

>>165226806
I doubt that, honestly.

It would need to be 2.5 hours and the MPAA would need to not exist.

>>165226797
she stole my memes

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>>165226431
That pic kinda reminds me of this one for some reason
>Miyazaki will never buy the right to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and make S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2

>>165226739
The cool thing about bloodborne to me is that even a year after I got the plat I come back to it. The only other games that kept the magic after 100% was Dark Souls and Oblivion. Oblivion is a once every few years sort of love though.

>>165226874
>It would need to be 2.5 hours
Not that bad. 3 hours is the limit.

>MPAA
Why? Follow the game and use whoever doesn't act like shit.

>>165226739
have you tried depth 5 root chalice dungeons with fetid, rotten, and cursed offerings?

I just got a Radial offshape 9.5% Arc + 72.5 Flat Arc with a beast down curse after about 5 runs in Isz, fairly lucky?

>Pthumerian Descendant appears in the boss room
>the bottom of the screen says Pthumerian Elder
Why? How often does the game do this? If I had died would it have given me the elder next time?

>>165226861
I don't have a third account

>>165226971
I think I might need a break. It's all I've been playing these past few months. In that time frame, I've don't STR, SKL, BLT, and ARC builds.

>>165227027
I made 4 frc ihyll chalices today senpai and completed them all.

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>Defiled Chalice cleared out.

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>>165226973
Studios don't make long movies anymore. A lot of moves now days barely hit 80 minutes.

The MPAA is fucking retarded and it'd wind up being NC-17 for violence before the first act was over. And since the art of using actual costume and make up for things is dead, everything that wasn't a person would be CGI.

We'd wind up with a PG-13, 80-minute shitfest akin to the Tekken movies that looked like the special edition, "improved with CGI" Star Wars flicks.


Now if someone would and could make a two-and-a-half-hour-long, reasonably realistically violent and actually costumed and animatronic beasts, I'd be all for it.

But it will never ever happen. It'd be an insurmountable moneypit.

>>165227426
if we can find a billionaire who loves bloodborne then we stand a chance

>>165227583
Then again, would we want to see something like this? Depending on the director, they might just take every creative liberty they can until we end up with something that resembles the game in name only. This happens nearly every time a movie based on a game is made. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, but those are fairly few and far between.

>>165227426
Two and a half hours is way too short anyway to tell a story as massive as Bloodborne anyway, shit would easily have to push four, maybe even five hours.

That's the main reason TV shows/video games/books rarely translate well into movie form, the stories are simply way too big to be condensed into less than three hours. Ironically enough Lovecraft would actually translate well to a movie medium considering a lot of his stories are rather short, the colour out of space could easily be condensed into two hours (with the exception of the unrecognizable colour)

>make chalice and go through it like normal
>see Undead Giant/hotdog
>bold hunter's mask right away
>return to the dream and remove chalice
I am not playing those games.

>>165227426
>Studios don't make long movies anymore. A lot of moves now days barely hit 80 minutes.
I am sorry, I haven't seen a single movie that has come out since 2009 and I have never seen one with superheroes.

>>165227705
As long as they aren't too explicit with the story and leave things up to the viewer.

>>165227732
Lovecraft was a racist so he can't be enjoyed in 2017.

Maybe a Bloodborne mini-series.
EP 1: Arrival to Yharnam and underlying lore, ends with Papa G
EP 2: Old Yharnam and more learning what the beast are with Amelia, start going into the chalices
EP 3: Horrors of the chalice dungeons and the old blood
EP 4: Burgersworth and Rom, historical background
EP 5: Shit hits the fan hard, School of Mensis and The Choir's atrocities
EP 6: The End

>>165228117
EP7: The Memes
in this final episode the skeptical man sits down infront of the camera in an armchair by the fire and recounts all the meme worthy moments of the series

Who wants to come help me put Simon's raggedy ass in the ground?
I'm tired of doing 30 damage a hit and getting two shot. Pass bbg, ringing by the Hunter's Nightmare lamp.

>>165229261
NOT WHAT I MEANT BY HELPING OTHERS BUT IT'LL DO

>>165229261
Dude did you think I could hit him?
I was going to just trap him in the doorway for you?

>>165229261
>killing simon
no better than a beast.
he dies in the fishing hamlet anyway so why not wait til then you cunt[/spoiler[

>>165229468
Ludwig

>Boss you died the most to
>number of times
Living Failures
15

>>165229304

I had the power inside myself all along! Thank you senpai!

>>165229716
No problem dude

>>165229463

I actually had no idea you couldn't hit him. Made a ton of sense as soon as I gave it a modicum of thought. Thank you anyways!

>>165229692
>tfw always die to their retard rush where they swing their arms

>>165229846
They're actually pretty easy to parry. It took me 5 playthroughs to know that.

>>165227426
CG isn't inherently bad, it's a matter of budget. I understand if it's Gascoigne's last phase, but One Reborn can never be an animatronic.
Also, there are still long, "mainstream" movies being made. Interstellar, for one.
The real core problem is the fact that stories are inextricably linked to their mediums. It's very rare for a story to transcend mediums in it's entirety.
Any good adaptation of a story must create as much as it derives from source material. Either way, you need someone who is as good at making movies as Miyazaki is at making video games.

Let's say a new Bloodborne game is announced and it will be made no matter what.
What would you like it to be about?

Loran?
Old Yharnam?
Biggestworth adventures exploring the chalices and shit?
A new city years later overrun with beasts where our character ends up being the new eldritch antagonist and main prey?

Why are some old hunter bells blue instead of red?

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>>165229692
>>165229846
>>165230182
>mfw I'm an arc build and I can spawncamp one of the corners with a bolt Saif and threeshot the same Failure over and over

I'm convinced that they have the same amount of individual health across NG+ cycles, because I threeshot the backleft Failure every time I fight them regardless of what level of NG it is.

>>165230775
What's the ar on your Bolt saif

>>165230627
Dating sim set in the past where you play as a Byrgenwerth student. You have to manage your schoolwork along with dungeon diving and going on dates.

>>165230979
Would play

>>165230821
I mean, it's FRC gems, but even so, it's always been a threeshot, whether it's just base NG or NG+4 or some shit.

>>165231286
I JUST WANTED TO COMPARE IT TO MINE

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>>165230627
Go off the assumption that the Splatoon ending is canon and thus there hasn't be a hunt in centuries and there was some big event that basically destroyed the church and blood ministration, the game is now set in a world that is very similar to our own during the 1920's and for some unknown reason when night descends on a relatively uneventful night the beast curse suddenly starts to grip people again and the nightmare returns entirely.

We play a descendant of a hoonter, though before that really didn't mean much in this world we go through a sequence of trying to escape the city until we inevitable die at some point and end up in the dream.

After that we set out into the world to try to find out what's causing the night of the hunt to return, seeing a city that a few hours ago was completely alive and unprepared in absolute chaos as bodies fill every gutter and vicious beasts stalk the streets, slowly getting deeper and deeper and learn that the old ways of Yharnam, the Church, and of course the great ones may not be gone or a myth like everyone thought, but simply found different ways to stick their fingers into the pie that is Yharnam.

>>165229846
people say theyre the easiest boss fight but for some reason (Im shit) i always die to them. where as im not bad at other bosses, killed laurence and OoK on my first try, but LF always seem to fuck me up for some reason

>>165230627
>hunter space programme where we send ayyliens into orbit
the powderkegs would build the rockets

>>165226905
That's just the price of anonymity, anon. We can all share the memes.

>>165231809
oh wait, powderkegs are RIP. Maybe some kind of powder keg remnant group builds the rockets

>>165231414
Jeez I'm sorry

I don't have the screenshot on hand or I'd have posted it. It's six hundred some, don't know exactly what.

>>165231667
The problem with that is that if the scourge appeared in such sort notice there would be 2 issues

1. I believe that REALLY big beasts like the Cleric Beasts, Blood Starved and Dark Beasts come from people that consumed a lot of blood over time like the vicars and other members of the church.
If the scourge was really sudden then that means no time to cook ug big beasts.

2. Normal soldiers or normal people for that matter wouldn't be in the physical condition to fight beasts, nor have the training or access to trick weapons. How you're going to explain that with all the important people ded and dream destroyed still more hunters are being trained hundreds of years later?

>>165232135
Yeah same, thank you :-)

When was the last patch?
Is there any hope From will actually do more balance fixes in the future?
I really wish Beastcutter wouldn't be so shit. I wish it was Bestcutter.

>>165229692
>Ball and Chain Undead Giant
>Abhorrent Beast
>Defiled Amygdala
Either one of those probably. Around 10 times I guess, didn't count.

>>165232240
1. The church never really disappeared rather than just became far more secretive, you'd learn throughout the game that high ranking government officials, mobsters, etc. were still keeping the church going and using healing blood.

2. Remember that the good hunter in Bloodborne is just some random foreigner who got a last minute transfusion, going by the assumption that hunters could indeed conceive children and thus have hunter blood in them it stands to reason that on the night of the hunt, even if it is a very sudden resurgence, they could be called back to the dream.
Granted this would mean there would be no veteran hoonters in the game, all the other hunters encountered would basically be completely new to the night of the hunt like us and all part of the dream at the same time, with us being the only one who got far enough to stop it.

I know it's an autistic idea but I felt like being a little autistic tonight.

Anybody want to fight logarius?

Bl 55 pass is log

>>165232945
On my way

>>165233028
Alright I'm at the fog

>nobody's doing FRCs
Dead thread.
Dead game.

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These are on stupidly high level build
I have every weapon +10

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>>165233120
>1500 attack

>>165233028
My dumb ass was ringing with bbg instead of log im reringing now

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>>165230627
WW1 theme
Long time after Yharnam but blood was discovered again and it's resulted in war.
You wake up in a trench. Who's side you were on doesn't matter anymore everyone has lost their mind.
Obviously eventually you would discover great ones and shit again.

>>165233374
>the good blood is now called aryan blood

>>165233282
Haha that's with beast built up
Without it it's 1140

>>165233491
Oh, that seems a lot more reasonable, LBH I'm guessing?

>>165233545
Nope, Lost HLMS
LHB is like 990 but I don't even have 27.2s on it

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>>165233182
>1528

>>165229692
Ludwig
I lost count after 2 hours of attempts. Delayed attacks mess me up something fierce, man.

Thanks for the logarius help. Stupid that he stuck his ass in a corner until he powered up. Cheap shit. Still didn't stand a chance.

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>>165233716
>03:20
>read reply
>see that reaction image
Mfw
Thanks anon, just lost it in bed

>>165233810
No problem. If you need any more help or just wanna coop I'm free

I have nothing better to do atm

>>165229692
Probably Ludwig.

If not Ludwig, dual knife Undead Giant.

But probably Ludwig thanks to a couple different low-level HMLS and Rakuyo rushes.

Hey hey, you boys want to help someone else with Log?

BL 50, pass bbg, ringing at the fog.

>>165229692
HMPH with no parries allowed

reminder not to give that failed abortion any replies

>>165234105
Christ, that fucking lag man. One second he's in front of me, the next he's halfway across the arena.

>>165229692
Orphan of Kos on NG+ (never tried on NG before)

I died probably 60 times. I used up like 400 blood vials I remember.

>>165234452
For how much you claim to dislike him you sure do pay him an awful lot of attention.

Frankly, I think you're gay for him.

If I kill Ebrietas, how can Augur of Ebrietas still work?

>>165236324
Time is convoluted in Yharnam.

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>>165236324
>Implying you can ever truly kill a great one
Oh anon, life and death are nothing but concepts created by humans and their feeble minds that cannot even begin to comprehend the cosmos, you need to get more eyes.

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>>165236546
If it bleeds, we can kill it.

>>165229692
Orphan on a twink with 18 vit
I don't even remember how many times I died, but it can't be far off from >>165234681

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I got the itch to play this game again, what should my weapon and build be?

>>165238001
Stake Driver

>>165238001
saw cleaver

Just got to Unseen village, how the fuck do I make it past the laser beam bs? I can't time it at all, and I just end up instakilled going down the stairs.

>>165237116
Do you agree?

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>>165238071
>>165238190
Cool, now arc, quality, or str?

>>165237116
>>165238240
>More difficult to break on replay
An unupgraded bleed weapon shits on every boss except dragonslayer armor
That was my go-to strategy for twinking, and a +2 barbed sword could carry me through ng++ with little effort

>>165238298
I am doing str with 50/25 but i think arc would work well also.

Is there a waning arc gem in the game as fixed loot or am I going to need to slot a droplet until I can farm offshapes?

Wheel is pretty underwhelming at +8 and 32/20 str/arc because I can only fill the radial slots and the waning is useless right now.

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>>165238298
Arc cleaver

It's pretty much the closest thing in the game to easy mode.

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>>165238573
Thanks. I want to have fun so i'll probably be using the stake driver more.

>>165238298
Because of heavy abyssals, the only point in doing a true quality build instead of a 50/25 STR build is if you want more damage off of viscerals.

I would recommend going for a skill build and using the Reiterpallasch.

>>165238390
That's true. Dual wielding weapons with carthus rouge is absurd.

>>165238573
Pure arcane is boring, it's just using the saw spear and cheesing bosses with hunter tools.

>>165238240
You kidding? DaS3 is super fucking easy to break, a luck build with bleed weapons is easy mode, pyromancy is OP as fuck when you get the chaos fireball, and if all else fails just fall back on dark sword spam.

Pontiff and Nameless were the only bosses in the game that I considered hard, everyone else was laughably easy for one reason or another.

>>165238240
I just want to say that Outrider Knights are disgusting and are the worst enemy in the franchise

>Winter Lanterns
Can be parried relatively easy once you stop fearing them, avoiding frenzy through I-frames. Likewise a full anti-frenzy setup + sedatives + hitting them is fine
>Jailers
Weak, slow and shit-tier. Only dangerous in packs
>Mindflayers
Kite them
>Bonewheelz
Don't block, be situationally aware
>Mace-rolling Fatass
Blue elixir + slow walk + backstab
>Sonic methheads
Blue elixir + slow walk + backstab/parry
>Rakuyo Sharks
Cancerous as fuck I admit, but their flailing isn't as bad and they have more recovery time between combos
>Hellhounds
Abuse their dog-type by shooting/stunning them and following up

I think Outrider Knights outrank pre-patch Drakekeepers and even regular-enemy chain giants/hotdogs/abhorrent beasts/pthumerian fuckfaces

>Hit hard as fuck
>Hit multiple times
>Build up status effect to make you even more vulnerable
>Fast as fuck
>Some attacks have little telegraphing
>Multi-hit combos
>Little recovery between some combos
>Difficult to ambush in Settlement/Lothric Castle

Almost as retarded as Freide having 3 health bars like she's a Bayonetta boss

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>>165238686
Stake is pretty fun

>>165238776
>Drakekeepers
Please don't remind me of those fucking things, I still have nightmares

>>165238765
Which base Souls game was hard?

Anyone want to help me out with orphan of kos? Lvl 80 and im bad

>>165238875
Honestly, none of them really, they're challenging but if you have decent situational awareness and reflexes you can make it through them all relatively easily.

Though I will say DaS2 had the most bullshit off all the souls games, lingering AoE hitboxes, needing to invest in a stat to get normal i-frames, gank squads of higher tier mobs with joint aggro around every corner, enemies that attack a million fucking times on top of having severely broken hitboxes. That game was just a mess.

>>165230627
>Let's say a new Bloodborne game is announced and it will be made no matter what.
>What would you like it to be about?
A prequel with no guns.

But seriously, don't make a Bloodborne 2.

>>165236546
>parrying winter lanterns
if you shoot too late with a pistol (even if it's before the grab lands), the winter lanterns become un-parryable. Parrying them and iframing through the frenzy is risky as fuck honestly. If you fuck it up in the slightest you are dead. At least if you just smash their faces in with a weapon that can stun them out of their grab, you only will lose 70% of your health to the frenzy instead of straight up dying to the grab + frenzy + frenzy

>Rakuyo sharks
Fighting one of them 1v1 is not that hard. You can parry the one with the anchor pretty easily. The other one has trouble turning around; just circlestrafe him like Ludwig's second form. Fighting them 2v1 is possible if you make good use of that big column in the middle of the well

>>165239069
>lingering AoE hitboxes
I think Dark Souls 1 and Demon's Souls were worse offenders in this. The fire in Demon's Souls was so visually ambiguous that you could barely tell when it would hurt you, and armored spider caught me with its fire surge twice before I just waited back by the fog wall for it to calm down. I think Dark Souls was the worst though. I remember consistently walking into Demon Firesage's explosions about a second after they had gone off.

Adaptability was retarded.

>enemies that attack a million fucking times
Like? Dark Souls 3 had the mash roll away from the anime combo problem much worse than Dark Souls 2.

>>165238776
Those were total bullshit.

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>doll talking about the church and loving their creators
>wonders if the creators love their creations
>says she loves you because that's how you made her
I wasn't ready for this man

>>165239297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIqMqzt0Af8

Daily reminder that this general is for discussing Bloodborne and not DaS 1, 2 or 3.

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>>165239434
Just wait until the part where she asks "are you cold?" and holds you

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So where can I get the best pulsing and lethal blood gems? I got a pulsing circle gem of +5HP per second for my secondary firearm, and I found a triangular gem of +5HP/sec for my primary weapon. Can you find pulsing radial or waning gems? I'd like to have a primary weapon I can just equip with my regen firearm and use to quickly regen my HP

Lethal gems give your weapon more HP on rally. I got triangle one from the story (I think) that is +12% rally potential, but here it says they can find gems that go up to 18%. Where!? Do they come in other types than triangles? I want that shit, and I don't see anything about it on the spreadsheet

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>>165239636
why is this game about hoonting eldritch abominations with saws, wheels, and flamethrowers making me feel all warm and fuzzy inside about a sentient doll I didn't sign up for this

What's your highest level character?

I have a level 261 character with 50 points in every stat except endurance and arcane, which have 40 and 71 points in them, respectively

>may you find your 'werth in the waking world
Was this a hint telling you to go to Byrgenwerth?

>>165240609
Why would you think that?

>>165240609
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>165239646
The best pulsing gems are +5 and come from Rite Keepers in Cursed + Rotted Depth 5 dungeons. The emu looking guys with tropes of skinny Pthumerians who they constantly buff.

They only come in Circle but it's possible to get an offshape drop in Radial, Waning or Triangle. That happens 1-2% of the time, so you'll need to kill a lot of Ritekeepers. The good news is that with all 3 eye runes on the droprate is very good, and in the most popular Watcher farming glyph (pwmf22gu) there's a Ritekeeper right near the lamp on the way to the lever.

There's a +4 triangle Pulsing gem in a chest in the DLC, which can work until you get a +5 offshape.

The only other source is the global loot pool in Loran. Pulsing is a very rare effect from any enemy without a dedicated drop. As far as I know it only ever goes up to +4 because there's no drop source without a secondary effect to boost with primary effect with its unused "gem budget". It's really rare though, Fire, Tempering, Bolt, Murky, Dirty, Beast and Kin hunter are all more common. So farming offshapes from Ritekeepers (who only ever drop pulsing) would likely be quicker.

A lost Bow Blade is best because it has Radial, Circle, Triangle. So if you are ok with using the +4 DLC triangle you only need one offshape.

Lethal gems do not exist. Except for the one in the DLC chest, and as a secondary effect there is no source that will ever drop that gem type. Maybe Isz Watchers, since they dropped BLT gems about 1/1,00,000 kills, but no Lethal primary effects have ever been recorded, so it's doubtful.

>>165231667
>there hasn't been a hunt in centuries
>1920's tech
You know Bloodborne uses 1890's style and tech, the one exception being everyones' enamoration with flintlocks, right?

>>165239646
Why not just use a blood vial

>there are people in this thread who actually farm the bis gems in the same dungeon over and over, instead of doing a new random root dungeon every time and have fun

>>165242262
>people do gem farming at all

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>>165242201
Because rallying is more fun. Having high rally changes your mindset from "fuck I just got hit, I'd better dodge to safety so I can heal" to "fuck I just got hit, I need to hit this guy back ASAP"

>>165241628
Thanks for the explanation! I was hoping it wouldn't be that hard to find the offshapes. Ritekeeper goon squads are a pain in the ass to kill, especially when they come at you all staggered instead of in one big group. The skinny watchers with the little burning swords do tremendous damage with their running attack.

>Lethal gems do not exist. Except for the one in the DLC chest, and as a secondary effect there is no source that will ever drop that gem type.
Damn, well that sucks. So the +18.8% rally gem they talk about in that pic is not real? And neither is guidance 3... fuck. Why does From hate rally so much?

>>165242262
>not farming top-tier gems so you can have fun spelunking without taking forever to kill shit
The most difficult dungeons "demand" the best of the best.

>>165243026
But the best gems only drop on the most difficult ones. If they demand the best gems, how can you clear them to find those gems in the first place? Explain this paradox.

>>165242934
What about not getting hit in the first place, and using those gem slots for the gems that let you do more damage instead?

>>165243135
glyphs

some dungeons have been found where the first boss is easy and drops really good gems, and it's pretty easy to get to the lever so you can just keep remaking the dungeon

>finally get a call beyond on my arc character
>try it out
>absolutely decimate Ebrietas

did I just unlock easy mode?

>>165243192
You can't count on not getting hit. And if you *are* good enough to not get hit 99% of the time anyway, then your damage output could be low as hell for all it matters because you are going to win just chipping away at them anyway. Talking about PVE specifically here

>>165242934
Using gems that don't up your damage changes your mindset from
>fuck I need to heal
To
>fuck why won't he die

You don't need rally gems to fight in an offensive way and guidance rune will provide enough extra rally.

>>165243335
Doing more damage also speeds up the fights, so you'd have less chances to fuck up. There's no reason to favor rather useless properties like tiny health regen over massive damage boosts.

>>165242934
> Damn, well that sucks. So the +18.8% rally gem they talk about in that pic is not real? And neither is guidance 3... fuck. Why does From hate rally so much?

The gem values the guide writers were given was every theoretical effect. The highest listed values assume a Rating 20 gem with no secondary effect. This isn't actually possible since enemies that don't have secondary effects cap at rating 19 (unless we can find a way to get a Ritekeeper into a boss-room to buff the boss). So 28.1% Temperings are impossible, it actually caps at 27.2%

Lethal, Finestrike and Dense gems do not exist, those effects are common as secondary effects but there is no drop source for primary effects of those types. DLC added a Finestrike and a Lethal gem, both of shitty quality, but it proves that they exist in the code as a possible gem. It's just that no one has it in thier loot pool.

If you truly want a Rally build, Madmen have x2 secondary effects. So you could get Physical damage +21% and Rally Potential +5-6% or something instead of the usual 2% (maybe it's higher I dunno).

Best Rally setup would be an Arcane build using a bolt Hunters Axe and three Abhorrent Beast gems (two offshapes) with Rally potential secondary.

Although someone on Reddit apperently found a wandering Abhorrent Beast in Isz. Which would give triangle gems of slightly lower quality than Loran Layer 3 Anhorrent Beast.

>>165238001
Stake driver and beast cutter
Or logaruius wheel and beast cutter

>>165238218
Try and try again / just sprint past it

>>165243593
>Wandering Abhorrent Beast in Isz
Wot

>>165243850
Beast Cutter and Poison Wheel(s).

One slow poison, one rapid poison and one using Madmen gems that have a moderate amount of both. Confuse the enemy, invade and burn through thier entire stash of vials and antidotes, kill NG+7 living failures or FRC undead in 10 hits.

Poison is not a meme.

>>165243438
There definitely is reason to use a rally gem (if +18% existed) if you think the fight is fun and you don't want it to be over in 90 seconds. Or if you're just greedy and you can't help attacking too much. Most high-rally weapons like axe, kirk and LHB don't really need the extra-extra damage gem because they already have really high base damage anyway. Sure, they could do absurd damage with a third damage gem, but it's not like they are weak without it.

>rather useless properties like tiny health regen
On some weapons the realth regen is insane. It's like taking a blood vial whenever you get a counter hit. It's not useless at all unless you are trying to use it on a weapon with hardly any rally to begin with, like the Kos Parasite or something

>>165240050
142 with 50str/34skl/9blt and somwthingsomething.

>>165243953
Sorry, I went back and actually read it.

The comment I was referring to was about the rarity of roaming bosses in Isz, and the difficulty involved in getting a screenshot of Abhorrent Beast chasing the hunter through a hallway. They wernt actually related.

>>165240050
150 something.
I wanna go all the way to 99 arcane.

>>165244012
Dude you can use some shitty rally gem that is useless if you don't get hit or you can use a gem that gives you 27% more damage, or 31% on blunt weapons or a abyssal that can up your damage even more.

>Most high-rally weapons like axe, kirk and LHB don't really need the extra-extra damage gem because they already have really high base damage anyway. Sure, they could do absurd damage with a third damage gem, but it's not like they are weak without it.

Every weapon needs more damage. Every gem you have on your weapon needs to up its damage unless you're doing some poison wheel meme build. Don't listen to the guide when it says to use radiant gems to lower stamina consumption (my fucking sides) or rally gems or other rubbish. The only gems worth using are those that gives your weapon more damage.

>>165244445
Being in this general really brings back memories of /mhg/.

does anyone ever use the Kos Parasite with their fists to make the fists into a semi-viable PVE weapon? I know it's probably weak as shit but it still can be gemmed and made much stronger than just regular fists

>>165244620
The thing is that the game is out since March 2015 and by now it's established what works best and what is worthless. Of course you can do your gem meme magic but then don't cry that your get stomped in the fight club or need 20 minutes to fight a frc chalice boss.

>>165244739
It works okayish with flat arcane gems iirc.

Can you give me any PvP tips?

Other than not playing it

>>165247060
Spam gun.

>>165247060
Get chalice gems and learn to parry attacks as well as heals.

>>165247060
Git faster.
Cut unnecessary moves like r2s and only use them rarely.
Get faster.
Get more precise.

does the chikage in its tricked form benefit from high skill?

>>165247735
no

>>165248083
That's dumb

>>165248173
Your dump lmao

>>165247735
allows you to pump BT and have max melee AND gun damage

bloodletter and bowblade are the same

>>165240050
365

How do I stop playing BB? I have played it almost everyday since December started. I still haven't even tried a skill playthrough.

What weapon did you guys use while building up arcane?

Did you go with saw spear or other? I was thinking on a LHB since it has the same gem slots as the spear but i don´t know if its worth it.

>>165248960
arc axe
15% radial nourishing from mensis, 9% nourishing triangle from under the clinic, 18% arc droplet from brain bridge

could try fire beast cutter if you're sick of saws

>>165248960
LHB, Tonitrus.

>>165249885
That's the very end of the game, that's not "building up".

>>165248779
Ask someone to unshakle you. Say please.

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>Great One Coldblood

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Can someone give me a tip for thematic build? I got kind of bored o my Gandalf as I already have a str/arc 98 build
preferably skill pls

>>165251491
Tomb prospector

>>165244739
I kinda wanted to do this for low-level co-op, but I've already had to fight orphan at a low level and fuck that shit

>>165251491
Crowhunter, Cainhurst outcast (planning on doing this one myself soon), Old Hunter with a Saif and the Burial Blade

>>165251540
that's actually pretty good idea, what weapon? Church pick?

Can I get some help with ebrietes im around level 65

>>165251491
Get skill to 50
Get all skill weapons and all clothes
Build together whatever you want whenever you want

>>165251807
Chalice or main game?

>>165249993
fine
you beat hotdog twice for 2 fire radials then use the fire waning near the brainsucker

that's literally it

>>165251807
yes, pass?

>>165251757
thanks, but I'll probably do the tomb prospector
>tfw no tomb prospectors covenant

>>165252085
Apparently there was supposed to be one, a type of territorial invasion, but it was scrapped before release. I can't imagine why, I would've joined.

>>165251854
Main game

>>165252085
Sorry new to the game still I thought passwords were only for chalice dungeons I'm on the main game

>>165252316
It really bums me. covenants are unused potential in BB.

>tfw you realize threaded cane is the best weapon in the game

>>165252469
set a pass nonetheless, it allows us to match together faster and even if my level is higher

I'm confused about burial blade builds. Googled it and people are saying 50skl/25arc while there are saying the arc doesn't make much of a difference and 50skl/25 str is a better overall build.

>>165252547
It would have been great to see a "reverse" Hunters of Hunters covenant, blood-drunk hunters invading with a similar mentality to the Mound Makers. The same rules would apply as Executioner/Cainhurst, the blood-drunks could not assist HoH and immediately turn hostile. Territorial ones in the nightmare, insane hunters dedicated to protecting the Great Ones, be able to give offerings to the Logarius Statue in Cathedral Ward for Executioners, you get the idea. Covenants in BB could have been huge, but we can only "progress" in two of them (good luck getting on the leaderboard, with people duping Vermin and Blood Dregs), and two others are beast/kin transformations.

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this cover makes my peepee feel really really weird please help me

3/4 of the covenants in DaS3 are Shit, at least BB has iconic stuff with the execs, vilebloods and hoonters.

>>165252843
Arc doesn't matter on BB

>>165253174
Just who is this? It must be Cain, the founder of Cainhurst for sure.

>tfw no eye patch in BB

>>165253279
Thanks anon

>>165253174
A peepee should be left well alone.

Who wants help with something? I have 2 hours to kill

>>165253174
B I G G I R L
I
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G
I
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>>165252690
OK I set pass to "m1lf" gonna go ahead and start looking for a chime

>>165253829
teah ring a beckoning bell at lamp abd I'll be ringing smallie in a sec

What is it about opening chests that makes it exciting? Even when I know there's mould or some other ritual material in there I still go, oh boy look at all that treasure I'm about to loot.

>>165253363
Would fit right in the aesthetic, shame they didn't include it.

>>165253892
Thanks for the help anon I dunno if you wanna keep doing some co op but I'm about to go and try and fight mikolash for the first time

>>165254239
Not that guy but I'll ring outside the boss room

>>165254304
Kk put on the password "m1lf"

Would you describe Bloodborne lore as overly complicated?

>>165254356
Ringing now

>>165254459
No, it's the typical Miyazaki "write some obscure shit and autists will fill in the blanks" story

>>165254459
No.

>>165254459
Just because its not spoonfed to you does not make it "overly complicated"

>>165254356
Is that "M1 -capital i- f" or is it a lowercase L?

>>165253279
Its Maria, Gehrmans edgiest apprentice. Her sole design is to be bullied as she staggers after most attacks, only aBle to attack via cheap Iframes, which can easily be dodged

>>165253987
Probs the reward part of your brain saying, hey well done you found something that looks significant, even if it is a +0.9 Arc up gem-have a pat on the back and do it again. The other part of your brain is the one congratulating you after you beat something "hard" in Bloodborne I beat most things now, learned their patterns etcetc. The only things I find challenging is the wait until BB2 or a new soulsborne-esque game and/or gank spanks in normie PvP

>>165254304
>>165253892
yeah sorry for that, I had to fight through upper cathedral and didn't make it in time ringing for mikolas

Ok this is a very dump question but how do i replay bosses

>>165254917
NG+. That's it. Although it does get pretty easy to rush to them since you have the weapon upgrades already

>>165254917
you don't, some bosses are present in chalice dungeons but you can't replay them in the main game, have to wait for NG+. Or ring a smallie in ccase someone need help with it

>>165254917
ng+ my dude, or a new character

>>165254917
replay the game on a new character, ng+ or find them in chalice dungeons

>>165254917
>>165254993
Or you can get summoned for them by the other people.

>>165254356
So if you're Leona I totally just killed you because I forgot to change my rune out

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>>165254459
>Spoonfed Redditfag complaining he cant collect lore cards which clearly outline everything that happened in order, rather than having the same perspective as the hunter, who kinda has no idea what the fuck is going on, but plays along anyway.
Figure it out and try to piece the story together yourself, like the hunter you play as would. Much more fun. Most of the cutscenes/characters give you a rough idea of what is going on, Scooby Doo that shit and figure out your own headcanon; then see if it fits with the overall consensus. The only thing people don't know in BB is where Guidance III is located

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>>165255341
>all those implied implications in the greentext

M8 you need to calm down.

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>>165255497
>Implied Implications
What did he mean by this?

>>165254459
Nope. Vague =/= complicated

>>165254459
it's miles more comprehensible than dark souls.

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What's a good weapon to ease me into strength builds? I've played through the game several times using SKL and BLT weapons, but I just can't wrap my head around the heavy weapons playstyle. Church Pick and Burial Blade are the "heaviest" weapons I can use without getting fucked constantly.

>>165255717
lurk moar

>>165256401
Wheel or the Boomhammer. You really just need to get around them and punish their combos instead of trying to interrupt or stunlock them

>>165256401
saw cleaver

>>165256401
You know you can trick and untrick weapons? You know, if you need to go fast you can just use the silver sword on Kirkhammer for example. Like what kind of question is this, try all out and use the one you like the most.

What do you guys spend your echoes on? I have the storage max of every consumable after farming gems

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>>165254459
Its literally there for you to figure out as the game loads. If that is complicated for you, you need to go back to CDPR/ GTAV tier games where it is nigh given to you on a silver platter whilst the waiter offers to wipe your arse and refill the formula in your bottle-easy for braindead, young, moronic consumers to absorb (if they can be bothered to watch any of the cutscenes anyways) Pic related

>>165256401
pizza

So what's this poison wheel build I've heard about?

>>165256962
Bad.

>>165256769
See
>>165256945

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>>165256484
Piss off redditfag. Just read the sticky?
A Shitter is a Shitter, even in a dream...
Away, away-A foul beast!

Buy absolutely everything, then it's a game on how much can you get

how the fuck do i beat cauliflower heads in PVP? the range on their R1 is ridiculous; it hits you even when you've literally dodged out of hte way to his left or right and does half my hp in dmg.

>>165257345
dash R1 punish their dash R1 spam

>>165257345
>tfw their dash R1

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>>165257217
>Being this upset that you didn't recognize a dead meme

>>165257345
Parry their attacks because they have a 2 second windup

>>165257217
Exquisite. Well memed my friend.

Can you faggots shut the fuck up with your mudslinging and talk more about the game
Thanks

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>>165256962
>Slow=Too slow to be effective
>Rapid=Weak form of Frenzy
Imo, both are viable in PvE, rapid should be viable in PvP but you would need to keep constant pressure with the wheel or pizza cutter for it to work (Only 2 weapons where it can be really be utilised)
Someone in FC was trying to make it work 1 or 2 FC's ago because they accidentally found some Korean tier dirty gems whilst farming for normal gems, cant remember who though. Ask again whilst FC is on and they might be on, they will probs know more than this whole thread combined about the viability of poison

>>165257597
Says the mudslinger
Do it yourself, faggot.

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>>165257597
Oooooohhh!

>>165257597
T.Mudslinger

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>>165257597
We've got two or three new regular posters, and all they do is shitpost.

Enjoy neo-/bbg/.

Some of the ""oldfags"" actually wanted this

>>165257901
But what if it were the total effort of one new shitposter, so great that he made us all reply to his mudslinging accusation? /bbg/ is chill most of the time anyways, just ignore/block him, like we do with the trip-poster

>>165257901
Hey i'm new and I only have legit discussions when I post. Which isn't often

>>165251778
Church Pick, Ludwig's, Kirk, Threaded Cane, Rosmarinus, Repeating Pistol, maybe Beast Claw since it's in the dungeons and Tomb Prospectors are graverobbers

>the enemies' blood turn to pale after some time
what did they mean by this?

Anyone for defiled pth hotdog? Pass is dog ringing at the fog

>>165259276
I'm cumming

>>165259276
Hey faggot try walking back to the lamp
Thanks

>>165259485
just finished it but we can do layer 3 if you want, same pass

thanks hibiki

>>165259485
I have a homework for bbg, next time we fap we try to do the most Ludwig like Ahhhh that we can do right when we come.

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>>165259951

>>165259861
Hibiki is based contributor to /bbg/ summons
I have seen you before. If you are out there, you have a general thanks from me anyways.

I'm actually not even sure what hit me, ringing again

>>165259951
>never going to be able to cum again without seeing half of Ludwig's face

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Motivate me /bbg/

I'm really bad at the game but I wanna finish my claws build for coop

>can finish the game without a single point of damage
>coop
>die to phase 1 amy

Can Yharnam Stone be used for something?

>>165261046
its ok we got her, im gonna be moving through more chalices to the queen if you want more co-op

thanks hibiki

>>165260936
Summon help?

>>165261046
got self-conscious in company eh?

>>165261330
I'd love too! Same pass?
>>165261357
It's ridiculous, I try to do things I would never do if playing alone

>>165261141
insight messengers of the nightmare recognize you as someone very valuable and provides high-end ritual materials (level 5 blood and bloodshrooms)

>>165261441
yeah ill be ringing in lower loran layer 1 lamp in a moment need 2 more insight to buy something

>>165261502
pffftt I want moar

>>165261441
alright ringing now in lower loran layer 1, same pss, sorry thta took so long

>>165261570
obviously you don't get the importance of chalices and incoagulable blood

>>165262057
yeah yeah, all those sweet autism gems. But I want more lore or a new super secret boss that gets unlocked with this stone.

>>165262195
>buried under layers of nightmare labyrinths
Only 8,2% of the BB players killed Yharnam. You reach her after at least 17 bosses (last one being her giant dog), isn't that enough of an hidden boss?

I got red spider murdered sorry

>>165262789
but the game spoiled me, I'll always want more

GABRIELLA THIS IS SILVER
HAVE TO GO GET MY FAGGOT YOUNGER BROTHER FROM SCHOOL, SORRY
Thanks for the coop

>>165263051
thats ok thanks for playing!

Can someone help me with crow lady?

Last time I talked to her was outside the church. Remember her saying something about her going to hunt some hunter who's gone crazy, and for me NOT to go where ever she was heading. So, I didn't, was worried that it would mess up her quest line/make her angry if I didn't follow her orders (1st/blind play thru)

Anyway, currently making my way through the forest (forbidden?) area, and thought I'd better check up on NPCs (the ol' grumpy grandma, etc.) -- then it reminded me of crow lady, since I haven't seen her since out last encounter. So I warped to the Odeon tomb or whatever it's called, and no-one's there -- crow lady, crazed hunter, or dead bodies.

Looked online (really confused rn...), and apparently you were supposed to go there (even tho she said not to, and seems v stern 'bout it?) pretty much immediately after warping back to The Hunter's Dream at least once.

Have I progressed too far? She seemed really cool, was hoping she's give me her armour or something if I progressed her quest line far enough... is there any way to salvage this? (Also opened all the gates, even bought to 10k just incase even tho I already had it opened... what a waste.)

Thanks for any help.

>>165263953
Go to the Cathedral where you fought Amelia once the red moon is out. In the OP is a checklist for collectables and npc interaction, use that for your 2nd playthrough.

>>165263953
this reeks of underage redditor

>>165261502
I wish this was true. I don't want to NG+

>>165263953
You won't be able to finish the questline. Your only choice is to head to Grand Cathedral once you reach the blood moon stage of the game.

RIP Hibiki, you will be remembered.

>>165264176
Everyone here was a newfag once and he's being polite about it, leave it be. Questlines in Bloodborne can be obscure at best. It's no DS3, but still.

>>165264176
Sorry, I didn't shower for some time now.

>>165264565
I meant he types like an underage redditor, don't care if he's new

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>tfw arrow spamming in mergos pvp

ringing in pth ihyll challice layer 1 hibiki, time to kill the queen

>>165265135
want some extra halp?

>>165265261
sure, pass is dog

>>165264934
Shhh, it's alright.

>make an frc dungeon
>open chest
>cursed odd arcane gem
>add 74.3 arcane
>increase stamina
Didn't know those could go that high

is there any way to filter srrc by which type dungeon to look for the bell in?
if not then there should be

>>165265317
searching now, hopefully wont take long.

>>165263953
your quest will have another challenger in the cathedral
you won't get the hunter's rune

>>165264219
the stone only unlocks the blood and mushblood, not the body part materials (you'll need to kill gehrman to get these)

>>165265460
No.

>>165264156
>>165264269
Thanks, shame. Did I just leave it too late? Seems like I was on track, but the wiki doesn't specific a cut-off point where she'll disappear.

>>165264176
Just trying to provide enough info, instead of asking vague, redundant question which would lead to multiple replies.

>>165265097
>Tfw you have the Loch Shield in your second offhand slot in the Loft for the common BLT bullet spammer, uncommon ARC tool spammer and the rare Arrow spammer
Its quite shocking how hard the shield can mitigate damage as long as you still move around as usual, yet is still underused and deemed shit-tier.
It's not a Dark Souls shield-the moment you realise that, you can use it and its wooden brother (earlygame/pre loch shield only) to mitigate a good chunk of ranged burst damage often.

>>165265710
The trigger is touching the skull and if you then reload the are (e.g. if you go to Hunters Dream) she'll be gone. Ignore the wiki for now and just roll through, the first playthrough is always a mess.

I wish the wiki would stay off speculations and stick to proven stuff. we have youtube memers for speculation.

I never got an inflicted organ nor a yellow backbone from the dogs during the game, so why does the hunter cut one in half, during the opening kinematic?

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>250+ hours in the game
>platinum
>6 characters on 120 or 98 meta level
>sverak hours in FRC dungeons to get good gems
>start a new game after a long time and everything is pretty easy
>papa gascoigne enters his 3rd stage
>heart starts racing
>mfw
I can never keep my head calm when he goes berserk, amazing first boss desu

is 870 damage good for a chikage unzip?

>>165266760
at blt 50 and chalices gems, it's average

>>165266760
A full blood chikage with 50 blt does around 1000-1100 on unzip.

So 870 is pretty decent.

>>165266547
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com

It's like newfags don't even read the stuff in the OP.

>>165256256
The plot of dark souls is infinitely more comprehensible than bloodborne

>Dark Souls
>clear establishment of who the major players in the world are
>there's an ancient prophecy about the undead, ring this bell.
>ring bell, ancient serpent tells you fate of the undead, relink the fire and end undead curse. Everything from there is in service to trying to link the fire (yeah there's shit with Kaathe but this is the perspective of a first playthrough)

>Bloodborne
>you're in yharnam getting treatment for some disease
>werewolves errywhere
>die, go to a dream, some old fuck tells you to just kill beasts, a note on the ground tells you to "seek paleblood"
>wander around killing random shit, eventually find way into mensis nightmare and game over

I prefer the gameplay of bb but the story of dark souls is a lot more comprehensible. Having obscure player character motivation doesn't necessarily make BB better.

>>165266676
It's the perfect mix of gameplay, sound, music and pacing, you can never have a truly flatline reaction unless you're playing the game muted or something.

>>165266676
I always just put him instantly to form 3 so his first two forms are more crazy.

>>165266646
Because it looks cool

>>165266676
>Implying the first boss is the best boss
I feel you man, the best thing is with Ludwig/Kos coming later, its even better. I mean either Cleric Beast or Gascoigne shits on most other first game bosses
>Huge fucking animal, bigger than everything you have seen so far, that just jumps over a huge wall like it was a farmers gate
Or
>A guy you could previously summon- also the first hunter you see in action bar you, which transforms with an imposing battle theme on top

>>165267094
Bullshit, there's more to bb plot than that. After you kill Amelia you get a glimpse of Willem and Byrgenwerth, reaching that place you see that their dabbling created this mess and that the Great Ones need to be disposed of in order to lift the nightmare.

>tfw fight for Maria's weapon costed me 3 bone daggers and 5 tries
I don't even know why I'm doing it.

>>165267485
gotta collect all the treasure

>>165267094
>Gilbert tells you to get into cathedral ward
>gates are closed what do?
>Granpa tells you to go to OY
>meet Alfred on the way
>bla bla bla Healing Church
>bla bla bla Burgerworth
>finish OY and find way to open gates
>oh hey healing church, let's check the big cathedral
>only werewolf girl and some skull with some adage
>oh hey burgerworth
>kill some spider in a lake
>find the nightmare newborn and silence it's cries!
>find newborn and silence it's cries
>Granpa says gg and cuts my head off

Idk seems kinda okay for me.

>>165266760
>>165266850
>unzip

What is this

>>165267669
7zip. Used to compress stuff.

>>165267094
Dark Souls gives you simpler, more comprehensible objectives as a player, at least at the start, but overall setting and story are much more obscure and incoherent, in my opinion.

All the cycles shit, lords of cinder, abyss, humanity, "gods", completely incomprehensible time periods, a lot of kingdoms we never see functioning, changing world map etc. etc.

Meanwhile Bloodborne has a lot of unclear stuff in the background (Pthumerians, Loran, Queen Yharnam and the like), but it's core is a coherent story of Byrgenwerth's folly. I find Bloodborne's personalities much more relatable and general progression of events more of a story and less of a mish-mash of myths and legends and half-forgotten things.

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>>165267628
>Granpa says gg and cuts my head off

>>165267485
Rakuyo is pretty great, it's worth it.
Unless you're not running a skill build in which case you're just a completionist like me.

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>tfw that old guy in the wheelchair in the tower thing up the lift from oeden chapel with his 30000000000000 caliber rifle
>tfw getting shot off the ledge

>>165267884
I'm on my first playthrough with STR/random shit build. I want to see what I can. And do decent build some time later. Moveset of this thing is cash though. I want to do some well thought SKL/BTG build sometime soon after small break.

>>165267485
I do it every playthrough just to show myself I can.
Hardest goddamn fight in the game.
Except maybe HMPH.

is 50 arc enough for pvp and frc dungeons on 98 build?

>>165267096
totally playing bb with headphones makes it a different experience

>>165267240
how do you put him instantly to phase 3?

>>165267338
He is the best first boss in any game I have ever played desu. Kos pressures you kuch more but he can be easily parried which cools me down. Ludwig's aggresivity is really great but I Papa still makes my heart race more, not saying he is better boss than the two, but I just don't know how to fight him and his jumping attacks are so fast. I usually jist run and throw molotovs at him on ng, on next playthroughs I just use firepaper to kill him quickly.

>>165268231
Yes.

>>165268286
If you use the music box three times he'll automatically go to phase 3.

His third phase is pretty easy so I just do that.

>>165268173
>HMPH
just parry nigga

>>165267741
>>165267741
Dark souls lore only really becomes messy over the course of 2 and 3 being really bloated messes in terms of story/lore that I think are a lot weaker than the first. Lordran and the story of linking the fire is pretty tight in DaS1 and doesn't bring in that stupid shit with cycles (cough sequels) and just focuses on the current characters that are apart of the world rather than the time travel/lords of DaS3 and just the random shit of DaS2 where you don't even know a character is important until you've killed them

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>>165268357
>parry zero-startup HMPH

Teach me sensei.

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>>165268286
>mfw I heard Yharnam citizens talking to themselves for the first time
this game mane

Do not worry Hibiki, I have killed her. Thank you for the help! Now I have platinum.

And thank you too Max and Silver.

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>>165268173
>tfw doing this fight for fun

>>165267669
Press L1 followed by R1

i think i asked this in the previous thred but i just wanted abit more input, on a SL98 planned str build is it worth putting 1 extra point into skill to be able to use the cannon?

>>165267485
>>165268173
You can actually parry the shark giants pretty easily.
And I personally never manged to parry HMPH even once.

>>165268881
Post your planned build.

>Finally reach Queen Yharnam.
>She splits into three copies.
>"oh fuck"
>Run up and smack one of them.
>Dissipates in one hit.

That fight was kind of disappointing for all the effort you have to go through to get to it.

>>165268881
Yes, you can fit 25 Skill into a BL98 Strength build easily with no major Vit cut.

>>165239490
Those guys were memorable enough that I didn't mind them. They made people think about how to kill them.

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>>165268548
Tfw seeing my name on BBG

>>165268469
Stand about 7 feet back
He'll swing, the first hit will miss without dodging, parry the second

>>165267669
The dash L1. It unzips the blade from its' sheath with an audible sound and an attack, them can be shook off after to lose minimal health for maximum damage