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Hunter of Hunters Edition

Discovered the Chime of a Beckoning Bell >>164369293

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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WET NURSE IS EILEEN
EILEEN IS WET NURSE
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>>164460210
>Make this post a minute before >>164460196
>stays at 100% for an entire minute
>post shows up
>cancel my post
>posts anyway
Fuck everyone
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Stake Driver
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Are drops in a dungeon with a specific seed guaranteed?
Say, someone found a perfect gem in a dungeon. Can anyone just enter the seed and grab one for themselves?
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>>164460387
Runes, weapons, blood echoes and that sort of stuff is guaranteed. Gems dropping from enemies and chests have some rng, but it will be the same drop tables for everyone who uses that dungeon.
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>>164460458
Also, how do root chalices work?
The layout is randomized on creation or on every death?
Do bosses/chests respawn? Or do you have to remove the chalice and remake the dungeon again after you clear it once? Does it still cost materials?
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>>164460563
Root chalices are the actual randomly generated ones. Once you create one it's assigned a glyph - a series of numbers and letters that identify it.

Once initially created it doesn't change. You can share the glyph (after making it an open dungeon, by pressing square in its menu) and other people can access it.

Once you've made one of a type of chalice, you can access all glyphs the same depth and rite as the one you've created without using materials.

For example if you create a depth 4 pthumeru chalice with the cursed rite, you could search all pthumeru depth 4 chalices and cursed depth 4 pthumeru chalices, PROVIDED you hold in your inventory the depth 4 pthumeru root chalice. By extension, you could search for cursed depth 4 Loran dungeons if you get the depth 4 Loran root chalice

I'm probably explaining this really badly, check the OP for a proper explanation.
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>>164460563
Randomized on creation. Bosses and chests respawn if you recreate the chalice using its glyph. Chalices don't cost materials if you search for them, only if you create an original chalice.
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Anyone got the specifics for what abhorrent beadt can drop?
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>>164460961
It drops bolt gems, up to abyssal, with a doubled secondary.
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>>164460053
is there any 100% complete guide?

I have finished game once and now wanna do every sidequest and explore every nook and cranny
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>>164461028
https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/5e1sot/completionist_guide/
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>mfw keeper of the old lords
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What exactly is the trigger for HoH invasions?
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>>164460961
Bolt Gems with a slightly lowered primary effect for its rating (Max 22% instead of usual 24% from Loran Darkbeast) but has a more than doubled secondary effect, you can get up to 33 flat bolt, instead of the usual 15. You can also get ATK VS Beasts Up, Kin Up, rapid/slow poison, flat fire and healing. But the only one actually worth a damn is Flat Bolt since the primary effect is always Bolt %. Kin up secondary is probably better if you want a dedicated Kin Hunting weapon.

Abhorrent Beast is basically a dungeon madman who only drops bolt gems. You can get rating 18 versions of his gems in Fire/Bolt/Phys/Poison/Beast/Kin etc... with also very large secondary effects. For dedicated Beast killing weapons in pretty sure these are the beast, either 21% Phys or Fire with like 12% ATK up VS beasts. Ever so slightly better than ultra rare Watcher 32.6% Beast hunter gems.
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Anyone up for Defiled Keeper of the Lords?

Ringing by boss fog, pass is bbg
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>>164462584
nvm got it
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I'm farming shotgun watcher. I know eyes runes don't change the quality but do they affect the drop rate of gems for mobs?
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lost or normal moonlight sword on an arcane build?
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>search for something bloodborne related
>r/bloodborne first result
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>>164464012
there's some good info there, dumb frogposter
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>>164460053
LOL?
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>>164463643
Yes, more discovery seems to inverse the frequency of drop quality. So you'll get gems often and fewer vials/bullets.

I remember someone tested it 100s of times at base discovery and max on a Brainsucker and concluded you were 3x (or something) more likely to get a gem than bullets at max discovery. But sadly there was no observable effect on gem quality or offshape frequency.

If what you are farming has a chance not to drop. Use all 3 eye runes and milkweed. They are only irrelevant if the thing you want drops 100% of the time. Sadly "gem" counts as an item, and specific stats on that gem are an entirely different RNG hellhole.
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>>164464135
Just saw someone bow and suck his own cock before a duel. I love this community!
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>>164464143
Celestial Emmisionary, Rom and Pthunerian Elder/Descendant (on layer 3) drop Arcane, Nourishing and Cold gems respectfully with lowered primary effect in exchange for having a tertiary effect. In cursed dungeons this isn't possible, so instead of a third positive effect the curse is reduced in strength.

An odd thing is, that since Elder/Descendant's (layer 3 only) Cursed Cold gems were buffed, the lowered primary effect doesn't apply. So Cursed Cold Abyysals are still 65 scaling, but the curse is reduced. Meaning you can get -4hp per second which is fully counterable with a Pulsing gem in your gun.
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can anyone help with defiled hotdog? pass is eyes, ringing at boss fog
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>struggling on a ng+7 boss
>equip guidance
>equip hunter axe +10 with autismgems
>drink lead elixir
>win
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>>164464664
I cant but stay out of range of his bites at hit him in the dome for the entire fight. Takes forever compared to doing it the MLG way but it works
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>>164464715
>drinking lead elixir
>not drinking lake water from roms lake
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>>164464715
>Struggling on a NG7 boss
>Equip all three clawmark runes with 50skl
>win
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>>164464841
>struggling on ng+7 boss
>equip all moon runes
>grind to level 544
>win
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>>164464012
> go to reddit
> someone's asking for build recommendations for a second character after doing quality the first time
> some guy says don't do BLT because the weapons are all endgame
> Procedes to recommend a SKL/ARC build utilising the BoM, Burial Blade and Rakuyo

I honestly can't tell if he was shitposting or not.
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>>164464787
speaking of which, i wonder what would happen if you ate kos parasite or some vermin
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>>164464940
well tbf BoM can be got in the first area if you can kill eileen
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When I check the wiki on viscerals it says that just smacking them while they're stunned can sometimes do more damage, but on my skl build I'm regularly riposting for 2500 damage without runes.

Is 50skl really that effective compared to base skl?

How much do you pure str guys do on a riposte?
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>>164465080
>BoM
>SKL/ARC
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>>164465123
Viscerals have S scaling in SKL.

They are also thrust damage, so physical gems and thrust gems boost them, as well as Beasthood. On a STR build you don't get the SKL scaling, but you still get the boost from gems (unless you are using blunt gems). I usually get around 1500-1800 on a visceral on my pure STR guy, if I'm farming Watchers I use thrust gems and Clawmaek runes to hit over 2.5k. That same setup on SKL would give like 4000, you can hit 10k with perfect Poormans gems and maxed Beasthood bar.

On Arcane characters though you lack both SKL and physical gems. So your Viscerals are around 700-800.

Also if you choose not to visceral, but instead do any other source of damage while they are in the staggered state, they take x2 damage. So a charged R2 (if you can pull it off) will do massive damage, but even a regular R2 or transform attacks does lots, and often more than a visceral if you arnt setup for them.
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>can walk over water
is rom the bloodborne jesus?
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>>164464664
still ringing anon?
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Does that one beggar who gibes you blood pallets, only transform into a monster if he gets to eat everyone you could have sent to oeden? Because I sent everyone except the whore to the cathedral and everyone's ded and I can't find that beggar anywhere. Shouldn't he be outside of the chapel right now?
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>>164466862
If he eats everyone and you just let him he fucks off and presumably finds more people to eat.

You're supposed to be horrified at the realisation he killed them and try to attack him, I don't think he ever transforms unprovoked.
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>>164466862
?
arianna isn't a whore
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>>164465151
oh didnt notice the /ARC bit
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what story boss did you struggle on that everybody said was easy?

which one did you butcher despite being told it was hard?
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>>164467119
none i killed every boss in one hit first try no vials
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>>164459186 here

Just beat him by trying strong attacks, why the fuck can you stunlock an enemy that big?
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>>164466993
I attacked him each time I came back after someone was killed again and nothing happend. Maybe I didn't provoke him enough :(
>>164467001
I couldn't remember her name and the man who lives opposite to her said something like she only wants to sleep with me for my money (if I remember correctly).
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>>164466750
the water isnt very deep
>>164467001
yes she is, she even says "But would you even take a whore's blood?"
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>>164466823
Gimme a min, will ring again, pw: eyes
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>>164467001
he didnt even say her name and you knew who he meant though
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>>164467001
Kill yourself, I honestly wish death upon you.
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>>164467387
any reason to be this buttmad, anon?
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>people still thinking the vilebloods are bad
why are executioners so delusional?
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>>164467196
He never says that
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>>164467252
fuck, ringing again
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>>164467262
That's because it is a common misconception.
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>>164467196
try to live and thus sleep with a woman without having any money
not saying that being whores is a part of femininity, it's more like a cultural effect
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why would anyone think that arianna isnt a whore? she even admits it herself
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>>164467630
>what is kidnap and rape
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>>164467642
She's a whore but not a sex whore, she's a blood whore. The church does it for free though.
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>>164467196
NPC's let you hit them twice before they get pissed off. It's to prevent you ruining you game by setting the controller on your lap and hitting R2 certain Demons Souls NPCs agro'd after one hit. You gotta mean it when you hit him anon, lay into him.

>>164467001
>>164467585
She's litterally a prostitute. She doesn't work during nights of the hunts and doesn't facilitate lesbian sex ;_;. That's all we know about her job.

>>164467187
Darkbeasts are puzzle bosses that move fast. Once you can break each leg in sequence it's trivial, but unlike traditional "hit this point to win" bosses like Tower Knight or Adjundecator actually doing it on Paarl can be a pain even if you know what to do. Loran Darkbeast is worse since his breakage thresholds are so much higher.
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>>164467751
but she says something like do you really want a whore's blood. thats not whoring out blood thats blood from actual whore
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>>164467751
I wonder how often the healing church masterbates with hot pockets.
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>>164467642
she's depressed
she has cainhurst blood, thus probably royal one, and she ends up fucking with smelly hunters
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>>164467585
Did this nigga just said that?
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>>164467585
https://youtu.be/OTVIwjE7upI?t=3m17s
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>>164467808
Yes, a blood whore.
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>>164467585
its time to stop posting fuckboy
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>>164467890
are you actually this retarded?
i hope to kos that youre just meme'ing and not that stupid
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>>164467807
>>164467854
I never said she didn't call herself a whore. I just implied it's not meant to be taken literally.
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>>164468054
Why is she called "woman of pleasure" in the guide? Is it because she's a pleasant person?
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>>164467890
> She's refered to as a lady of the night.
> says her house is "no place for a lady" if you approach as a female, but assumes you want to have sex with her if you approach as a male.
> tells you she's "off during hunts" and to come back in the morning

She's a regular prostitute, she gives blood because everyone in Yharnam is addicted to the stuff so it makes sense they'd get kinky with it, and her's is also special and gives stamina regen so it probably feels great. She gives them stamina boosting blood vials, then they fuck,
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>>164467987
She freaks out when she has a baby.
She's a pure blood whore.
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>>164468083
she just enjoys being happy :^)
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>>164467807
>NPC let you him them twice
I remember R1ing him until my stamina was gone. Sometimes doing fully charged up R2s. Maybe my memory is fucking with me..
But still thank you. I will most likely do another playthrough, because I want to try out Arc/Str and will remember that you have to hit him many times.
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>>164468137
so you are [spiler]trying to meme[/spoiler]. nvm then faggot
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>>164468083
Her blood is pleasant.

>>164468098
Nah.
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>>164468209
>[spiler]
:)
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>>164467570
ty good hunter, want to run the last level too?
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>>164468083
Because the "guide" is garbage, and people are addicted to the blood.

>>164468098
A whore is just someone that sells their body. She sells her blood, and that technically makes her a whore. You're implying sexual context that just isn't there.
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>>164468301
>do you really want a whores blood
>thinking she isnt a actual sexual whore

i never used to be bothered with luci's posts and dint understand why people were always giving him shit, but now i see :^)
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what if she has to spread pleasure with her blood to please oedon?
she's pregant with its child after all
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>>164468404
This
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>>164468301
All the information in the guide that isn't gameplay was directly given by FromSoftware. This is how we know that the hunter in Byrgenwerth is called Yurie, how we know that the guy in Mensis is called Edgar and that Arianna's title is "woman of pleasure".
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>>164468098
>but assumes you want to have sex with her if you approach as a male.
You suppose it's sex, she just gives blood. Everyone is addicted to it in Yharnam so if someone with tasty blood shows up and can't do anything else for a living it would be natural to whore him/herself.
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>>164468465
>Everyone is addicted to it in Yharnam
Which is why she shouldn't have a problem with hosting other ladies, but she does.
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>>164468420
>but wheres the dad
>tfw its alfred
>>164468465
did you not even read the "do you really want a whores blood?" part?
again, that isnt a blood whore, but an actual whores blood
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criminal that this game only got one piece of DLC desu

I also wish there were more people you could save by sending them to the chapel
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>>164468591
>not saving yourself by staying in the chapel the whole time and never leaving
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>>164468562
Yes, an actual blood whore.
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>>164468620
>blood whore
it doesn't look SEXY at all
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>>164468620
>I have no more arguments, so I'll just repeat my empty statement
People need to learn when it's time to let go.
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>>164468404
She sells her blood when most people are getting their blood from what amount to nuns or saints. There is a social stigma associated with that. There is nothing sexual about it.

>>164468445
Then why is the guide missing info and why did it get some wrong?
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underleveled ludwig with beast claws is hard
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>>164468748
>Then why is the guide missing info and why did it get some wrong?
Gameplay information comes from people who played the game, canon information comes from people who made the game.
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And they still will not filter Cum-Guzzling Lucifer.
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Bloodborne subreddit is so fucking bad, why do people think anyone cares about their shitty stories and experiences with Bloodborne?
>here's my story about how i got to play this game that saved me from depression, brain damage and pancreatic cancer
>this is a le fine message good hunter may le good blood guide you!
DIE
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so i just got my lost hmls for my arcane build, im currently at 15 stamina, would that be enough or should i get more? (staying at 16/12/50 and going for the SL98 meme)
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>>164468698
You also repeated an "argument" and only showed your interpretations of the dialogue without giving actual proof. I'm not trying to set my statements in stone and hold as absolute truth, I'm only sharing my point of view and will believe in it until proven wrong.
She's a blood whore. A straight blood whore.
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>>164468591
Yeah another couple NPC's would be nice. But what I really want is for the current ones to be more fleshed out. You can hear all of Chapel Dweller's dialogue before nighttime, and Sceptical Man should have had a mini-quest. Him giving opposite advice is cool, but it should have been more, like telling you to poison Arianna or something else your not supposed to do in exchange for items, 16 chunks for giving him an umbilical cord which he assures you is useless.
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>>164468914
>A straight blood whore
Why would a straight blood whore refuse to give blood to a woman if there's no sex involved?
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>>164468835
What a convenient excuse.

>>164468861
It's your own fault for going to reddit.
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>>164468994
Do you think that Epicnamebro made up those names?
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how to block tripfag posts? :^)
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>>164468994
>What a convenient excuse
God damn are you stupid. Fucking ENB who worked on the guide even said that, go on and continue memeing.
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>>164468748
> Then why is the guide missing info and why did it get some wrong?

Did you even read the other Anons post? Everything except gameplay stuff was given to them by FromSoft, mainly enemy names and stuff. Or do you assume 'Edgar, Choir Intelligance' is ENB fan fiction?

Guide also got Bloodgem data presumably straight from the devs because the lists of gems they have assumes all gem types can drop at all ratings. Which is why it lists 28% Temperings and 24% nourishing gems. And stuff like Lethal and Dense gems, which are part of the game, the just don't have any drop source.
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>>164468959
Noble gentlemen can get away with things in society that ladies can not.

>>164469043
I think he is a liar and cannot be trusted. His word is not worth shit, and I have seen no solid proof that the names are official. And IIRC, the guide even got a name wrong anyway.

>>164469061
See above
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>>164468959
>This is no place for a lady
She didn't refuse, in fact, she still gives blood to you if you're female.
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>>164469160
>I think he is a liar and cannot be trusted
He's certainly more reliable than you.
Whether you like it or not, FromSoftware read the guide and approved that title for Arianna, so it's canon.
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>>164469160
>I think
And why should I give a flying fuck about what some literal faggot that has been proving wrong countless times say?
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>>164469217
She refuses to have sex with you when she thought that you were a customer and not a hunter, but she accepts to give you blood as a reward for rescuing her.
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>>164469231
>>164469263
>>164469303
stop replying to his posts you silly cunts
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>>164469303
yes that's dangerous for her to accept visit during the night of the hunt
she knows about the red moon and the beasts

but she steal gives you blood for free
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>>164469379
>yes that's dangerous for her to accept visit during the night of the hunt
She specifically says something about female customers if your character is female, play the fucking game.
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>>164469231
the church controls the market of blood in yharnam so it'd be dangerous for her to trade her own blood for money
so she disguised herself into a whore, and believe in it because she's depressed as fuck
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EVIDENCE SUPPORTING ARIANNA IS A PROSTITUTE

> literal use of the word "whore" and phrase "lady of the night". These could have other meanings but the most common meaning shouldn't be disregarded without evidence
> Doesn't provide her service to ladies, but gladly gives blood to female hunters once in the chapel
> Litterally called "woman of pleasur by the offical Sony-approved guide with FromSoft supplied names for enemies and NPCs

EVIDENCE THAT SHE IS NOT A SEXUAL KIND OF WHORE
> Luci and one other Anon's refusal to accept that thier waifu has taken dick from countless people before
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>>164469231
He's really not. I am not a known liar. Plus, he has a vested interest in people thinking the names are official, which gives him even more motive to lie.

>>164469263
>(you)

>>164469303
She refuses to give you blood until you rescue her. People are supposed to keep safe by staying inside and locking up.

>>164469413
Which proves nothing about what you are saying.
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>>164467464
They're both dickheads tbqh
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>>164469470
Tell me more about your fanfic.
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>>164469303
>She refuses to have sex
You are assuming this again. Not once does she says sex, it's your interpretation.
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>>164469483
>I am not a known liar
Yes you are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN1PIelq8MI
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>>164469483
>i am not a known liar
now youre just trying too hard to troll
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>>164469483
>(You)
Exactly, fucking trash.
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>>164469527
She's called "woman of pleasure" and calls herself a "whore".
She also refuses "work" for females specifically.
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Isz Root or Sinister Isz Root?
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>>164469683
Up to you
One is always open for invasions and the other is not
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>>164469475
> literal use of the word "whore" and phrase "lady of the night". These could have other meanings but the most common meaning shouldn't be disregarded without evidence
Same with the other meanigs of the word. Or do you think Rom is not retarded because he's vacuous.

> Doesn't provide her service to ladies, but gladly gives blood to female hunters once in the chapel
Her remark wasn't a refusal, she even states she's worried about dragging you down.

> Litterally called "woman of pleasur by the offical Sony-approved guide with FromSoft supplied names for enemies and NPCs
Blood is more pleasurable than alcohol in Yharnam and with her Cainhurst lineage even more so.
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>>164469483
You havnt been clear about this.

Do you honestly beleive that the names in the guide are not offical? Are you calling into question Yurie the Last Scholar, Edgar: Choir Inteligence and a couple others? What about the lore ramifications? Some stuff is based purely on the names in that guide, "Garden of Eyes" is that made up too? Do you prefer Fextralife's "Mi-Goh Zombie"?

Disregard ENB, other people worked on the guide and said the same thing. Are they all liars? All someone connected in a massive conspirisy to obscure the truth that Arianna is in fact not a prostitute?
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well this is a wackadoo discussion
anyone looking for help in a chalice dungeon or something?
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>>164469615
You're just going to repeat the same thing over and over again? Read the thread.
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>>164469876
Nobody proved me wrong yet.
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>>164469475
>> literal use of the word "whore" and phrase "lady of the night". These could have other meanings but the most common meaning shouldn't be disregarded without evidence
False. The word has multiple meanings, and you are just trying the "Prove me wrong" fallacy. Your claim is not correct by default. You also need to prove your own claim.

>> Doesn't provide her service to ladies, but gladly gives blood to female hunters once in the chapel
Lady also has other meanings you aren't acknowledging, as in lords and ladies.

>> Litterally called "woman of pleasur by the offical Sony-approved guide with FromSoft supplied names for enemies and NPCs
1. Show us proof that is was officially supplied.
2. People are addicted to the blood, not unlike morphine. Getting high on shit like morphine is also pleasure-inducing.

>>164469563
>you tried
I made a mistake once in like half a decade, and even admitted to it a thread or two later (before that video even went up). Making a mistake is not the same as lying for personal gain.
(Why do you think karma hit him so hard? ((DoA kids, wife left him and took their living kid, etc)).)

>>164469785
He was think Rom is constantly running her hoover in that lake. Place isn't going to vacuum itself.
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>>164469860
I could use a hand in smashing living faggots, don't have shaman meme blades yet
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so is that arc build sticky a legit build or a meme? any opinions on anything else i should do for a first time arc build?
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>>164469920
No need for it when you aren't right to begin with.
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>>164469832
"Garden of Eyes" is also referenced in the official artbook, the names in the guide are indeed canon.
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>>164470032
It's a gimmick. It's a hassle to make and gets boring pretty quickly, but it does actually work.
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>>164470032
It's all in the OP
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>>164469920
>I'll just ignore his counter arguments and keep asking the same thing repeatedly, eventually he'll run out of stuff to say
Truth be told, I don't have proof that you're wrong. The game is open and designed to allow you own view of things, but if you want that your own view is hold as the only conclusion possible you have to prove it before shooting down other people.
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>>164469492
>A member of the old Healing Church would know that her blood is similar indeed, to precisely what was once forbidden
Looks like her blood is forbidden. Remember that Cainhurst got fully ravaged by the church, but she's still here, doing her best to save the bloodline (the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst is probably her brother or something)
>>
What's the deal with Yahrgul? I mean the people fused with walls and burning corpses in craters?
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>>164470708
It was a ritual to summon the One.
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If I use a bowblade with base blt strictly for shooting amy and ebri in the head should I stick flat bolt gems on it?
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are beast pellets worth using with the tonitrus on an arcane build?
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>>164470708
The kidnapped people were used as sacrifice for the ritual to summon the One Reborn.
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>>164471035
No
The majority of your damage is probably going to be lightning
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>>164471053
Who was the one before he was reborn?
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>>164470708
This is my personal biggest grievance with the lore.

> did it happen while we were away killing Rom?
> has it been like this for decades?
> did killing Rom reveal the moon that was already there, or did it allow them to summon the moon?
> why is it "The unseen villiage" when it's neither a villiage (it's gigantic and shares a wall with Yharnam) nor unseen (literally visible from Centeral Yharnam, Cathederal Ward, Old Yharnam and Abandoned Workshop. The entrance isn't even hidden, you exit the Main Carhederal and walk down the clearly marked path). Yharhagul the spooky suberb would be an accurate name

I think the Bloodmoons effect on Yharnam could have been done much better. If the people melting into walls was meant to have happened just now, they should have shown it happening or at least added them to Centeral Yharnam and Cathederal Ward as well. If it happened decades ago there should have been melted people visible before the Bloodmoon.

Personally I also wish Yharhagul had been a spooky villiage hidden in the woods covered in fog until the Bloodmoon revealed it. Similar arhitecture but lots more plants and have it overgrown.
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>>164471261
Most likely an Old One. He is just being reborn into the mortal spheres.
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>>164471261
clint eastwood
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>>164471261
dont listen to >>164471367
Luci likes to talk about shit he doesnt understand or know about at all
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if i want to make a fire saw spear should i get the lost version or is the normal one better?
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>>164471443
I have only been wrong once in like half a decade, and that was like 4 years ago. It is such a rare event that someone even made a YT video about it.

SO anyway, what is "allegedly" wrong about what I just said?
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>>164471576
fucking kek
>only wrong once
>baiting this hard
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Anyone for the moonlight horsemonster? Ringing by entrance to boss room, pass is bbg
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>>164471729
You forgot to share your level.
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>>164471576
are you autistic?
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>>164471261
Take your pick, then fight about it for 150 posts.

> Mergo
summoned by Pthumerians to give a physical form to the Hier to thier monarchy. EVIDENCE: Pthumerians are the ones collecting bodies and ringing the bells, Mergo is in Mensis nightmare which Immidetly comes after Yharhagul. "Reborn" is fitting for something that seems to have either miscarrisged or cut out of the womb. Ritual Blood item descriptions talk about rebirth, and they are connected to Chalice's which are Pthumerian.

> Kos and or the Orphan.
School of Mensis trying to rebirth Kos or the orphan, because they want to be granted eyes like Rom. EVIDENCE: Micolash's dialogue and it kinda looks similar. Especially the face.

> Rescue attempt and or attempted birth of a great one made from Mensis members
Retrieving the Mensis scholars from the nightmare as one being, presumably an attempted Great One. Some people say it was the plan all along to rebirth into an ascended body, but others have suggested a "rescue attempt" to get the scholars back from the nightmare which they were stuck in. EVIDENCE: I can't remember and I was the person who came up with the rescue attempt theory. There was something...
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>>164471809
Wait a second. Are you saying bagmen and bell ringing women are pthumerians?
I thought those never leave the catacombs.
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>>164471785
He put a password
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>>164471803
No, but I think you might be.

>>164471919
Downscaling is still a bitch.
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>>164471785
>still thinking level matters when using passwords
oh luci...
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>>164471952
I'm pretty sure you are. No one is as retarded as you are without at least being autistic :^)
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>>164471965
You don't even play this game do you?
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>>164471887
>those never leave the catacombs
I'm not gonna outright say martyr logarius is pthumerian, but he does share a lot of similarities
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Why are big guys in the cathedral ward so big?
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>>164471965
exactly
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>>164472080
apparently youre the one who doesnt
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>>164472141
For you
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>want to play BB
>controller is broken
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>>164472080
You don't.
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>>164471965
>get pw summoned out of range
>700 damage weapon now deals less than 200
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>>164472080
this guy :^)
>says hes only been wrong once
>is wrong all the time
youre basically the leafy of /bbg/
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>>164471887
It's fact that the bell ringers are Pthumerian. Read Sinister chalice descriptions. Bagmen look like Pthumerians, share the same weaknesses and commonly appear in the Pthumeru dungeons.
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>>164472281
leafy without any fans, its kinda sad luci
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>>164472204
So buy a new one or use a Vita. Vita works surprisingly well for anything that doesn't rely heavily on holding down the R2 or L2, such as the Whirly.

>>164472281
Kid, you have clearly never played the game. You just come to shit post. See: >164472231
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holy fucking shit these things outside cainhurst are destroying me i can barely handle one of them, what level am i meant to be for this place
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>>164472342
Sounds reasonable.
What are those weaknesses?
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>>164472389
>couldnt even link a post
kek
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>>164472396
Run past them. They are stronger than the enemies inside the castle and there's nothing important outside.
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>>164472396
50 to 70 is normal. Just run past the fleas. You can also easily beat them with something like LHB or the Whirly by stunlocking them.

>>164472526
Thanks for proving my point. You aren't even talking about the game any more, even though before it barely qualified. You just come to shit post. Nothing more or less.
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>>164472779
>getting this upset
fucking hell luci
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>>164472818
In other news, I've since soloed Luddy and moved on. Why argue with this mongoloid tripfag?
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>>164472396
Just pull them one at a time and stunlock like all the other enemies.
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What's the point of no return?
I want to do the DLC and the chalice dungeons on NG.
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>>164473145
Chalice dungeons are the same in NG+, you keep your progress and materials.

Point of no return is when you go to the garden to talk to Gehrman after Mergo's Wet Nurse
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>>164473145
Approaching the old guy in the wheel chair after beating the Wet Nurse. You can go a bit further than that, but not without spoilers.
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>>164473145
speaking to gherman after murgo's wet nurse
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>>164468861
They have better lore discussions than /bbg/ or /v/. You just have to search for a specific topic. Obviously if you're browsing the front page you're gonna get nothing but casual shitters who got the game for Xmas and want to share their le epin cleric beast story.

>>164468873
MLGS is a Strength weapon.
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Are the insight armors worth getting for a beginner? I've got the Ashen Armor and Father Gascoigne unlocked
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>>164473340
>MLGS is a Strength weapon.
wut
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>>164473340
HMLS is a str weapon if you focus on melee. It is an Arc weapon if you want to focus on beams, and it is a Quality + Arc weapon if you are an over-leveled shitter.
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>>164473489
If you think they're fashionable, then yes.
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>>164473635
How do I unlock the Bone Ash armor? I'm not him FYI
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>>164473739
Beat the boss that wears it in the chalice.
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So I finished a playthrough with a SKL build using the Saif and I'm gonna continue with chalices in NG+.
What weapon should I use besides the Saif? Also, I don't need ARC for BoM right?
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>>164473510
Don't listen to him, it can be used on a variety of builds
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>>164474120
rakuyo for PvP and Pick for PvE
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>>164473739
Chalice dungeons.
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what would have more damage output overall (SL98 meta im going for) base strength and skill for chikage and bowblade (just for the bow part) and 50 blood tinge and the rest in vit and end, or 25 skill and 50 tinge and just using bowblade on its own?
im guessing itd be the chikage one but just wanted to ask incase im wrong
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ludwigs holy blade scale better from strength? in both forms?
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should i upgrade my weapon if i want to do more damage?
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?can I iinfuse my fists??
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>>164475647
yes
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>>164475647
backstab a pig and they're infused with poo
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>>164475791
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Where I find Guidance 3?
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>>164475791
oh wow
kek'd too hard at that
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>>164476304
got the glyph written down somewhere, can't be fucked to find it though
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>>164476304
just ring the sinister bell at your tombstone in NG+7 to get it
>>
Has anyone ever considered that Luci is simply so much more intelligent than us normal non-trip people that we are unable to fully comprehend the magnificence of his insight? Possibly we are simply too dumb to understand Luci who is so intelligent he thinks on another dimension? Luci is probably the smartest person in these threads.
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>>164478125
thread is quiet for a while, luci takes off his trip and makes a baitpost
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>>164478125
>>164478337
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>>164478125
kill yourself luci
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>>164460245
Stop with this shit meme.
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>>164478125
One thing he accomplished was being my second filtered trip just after Komeiji
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>>164478841
how do you filter trips :^)
im bored of luci spewing cum out of his mouth
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>>164467917
Requesting an executioner edit of this image. Wheel+Ardeo and replace STOP with PURGE.
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>>164479423
this please
>>
>want to refuse Gerhman for the bossfight
>but also want the achievement for submitting to get all achieves
>no way to backup save beforehand

O well, time to do another 2 playthroughs
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>>164479159
just filter him and be done with it, he doesn't care about insults, his goal is to be talked to and about
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>made a whirligig character and stopped playing it when I +10d it
>friend asks for help on ludwig
>run in pop bbp and fire paper
>mfw max beast meter
>mfw 4500 damage in 3 hits
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>>164480015
it's an absolutely ridiculous weapon
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>>164480015
Playing for the first time, I just discovered it, it's so much fun in PvE. Will it be any good in PvP later on?
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>>164479423
il try and make it later :^)
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>>164479585
Yes there is, same as savescumming chalice bosses. Just back it up to a USB and reload to get a new ending each time.
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>>164461146
Stuck on that fucker too.

>Tfw running an arcane build and do almost no damage
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>>164480515
need some halp?
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>In functionality they're identical to the Rabid Dog but they're much more handsome.

who is editing this wiki
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>>164480815
Everyone, it's open source
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>>164470094
How the fuck did Fluorescent Flowers come to being? Were they humans? too many eyes on the inside?
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>>164480515
Just shoot him. He does that "get away from me" double swing every time it takes damage or if you're just too close.
Really easy to chain parry him to death.
Unless of course you fuck up, or he randomly decides to do something else. Then you're gonna get one shot.
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>>164480815
retards, so everyone
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>>164480775
Wud b laff.

Password is vg
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>>164481081
be there in a min
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>>164480951
Shoot him with what spell?
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>>164481081
>>164481251
searching
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>>164481440
>SL109
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>>164480775
>>164481251
>>164481385
Thanks anon!
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>>164481081
thought you needed help with keeper of the old lords not the fire doggo?
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>>164481612
>>164481776
>ever stopping leveling up
>>
If I'm BL26 and I'm gud would the dlc still rek me?
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>>164481951
Keeper of the Old Lords
Watchdog of the Old Lords

What's the difference, really? My bad
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>>164481990
>wasting echoes on diminishing returns and limiting your online potential
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>>164482061
ONE IS A GIANT DOG ON FIRE
THE OTHER IS A PYRO DEXFAG
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>>164481990
the ride has to end somewhere
>>164482016
probably
>>164482061
np anyway,glad to help
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>>164481990
Tfw BL300+ :^)
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Why did Gehrman have sex with Kosm?
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>>164474442
anyone got any answer?
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>>164482136
No echoes spent leveling are wasted. And since passwords are a thing, you're not limiting your online either.
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>>164482370
I can vouch for this because I've never cooped on any build besides my 300+
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Could a 50skl/50blt build work?
>>
pizza, music and bloodborne: the best way to get over a 4 year relationship
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>>164482175
It's taking 5+ viscerals to kill a hunter lol
THESE GEMS THO
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>>164482623
Where do I subscribe?
>>
What gems do I use on an arcane build?

I have Saw Cleaver for fire damage and Tonitrus for bolt damage.

Right now I'm just switch gems so that fire and bolt damage are the highest in the weapon menu. Is this what I should be doing?
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>>164482502
give people the business with bowblade in both forms
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>>164482816
get the lost versions of them both so you have the radial, triangle and crescent slots, then just improve the gems as you go along
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>>164482816
>What gems do I use on an arcane build?
Good ones.
>>
Does anyone need help with Ludwig?
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>>164483017
So I should look for the games that add the most fire/bolt damage?

And are Lost version better? Kinda sucks since I upgraded both of them to +9 already.
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>>164482816
sit down son.... you gonna want some fire gems for the fire weapon and some bolt gems for that bolt mace
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>>164483120
I might
I'm BL32 and nothing is dying lol
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Anyone up for aborting the orphan? Ringing at hut lamp, pass is bbg, level 115
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>>164482623
>Someone had you for four years, even if the last six months, give or take, were a sham

Still got a leg up on some of us, sempai.
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>>164483148
this is why you should ask /bbg/ if youre doing something new and not too sure :^)
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>>164483589
>tfw when it actually was about 6 months when it started going down hill
are you her? :^)[/spoiler
>tfw no face
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>>164483350
WHO WANTS TO WALK ME THROUGH TO LUDWIG PLS
RINGING AT NIGHTMARE LAMP
PASS bbg
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>>164483578
Coming
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>>164483852
>>164483852
omw
>>
>2017
>not having your laptop on top of your ps4 so you can shitpost on /bbg/ and play bloodborne at maximum efficiancy
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>>164483350
pass? and wher3
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>>164484136
The very first lamp
Pass is bbg
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>>164483578
Sorry bruv. Got hit twice with that pink bullshit
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>>164483871
Ringing again
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>>164484202
omw
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>>164483809
Just familiar with female mindfuckery.

>tfw girl I know posts facebook meme about how they can be with a guy for months, but not be in the relationship emotionally
>she posted this as an empowering thing
>they think fucking a guy you don't love for six months is empowering
>>
>>164484015
>laptop on top of your ps4
>having a jet engine at your ear
>not on top of another chair
>>
>>164484202
this downscaling is rough
>>
>>164484317
>not having headphones plugged into the controller so you dont hear said jet engine
>>
ARI IM W8ING FOR YOU
THE OTHER GUY TOOK OFF
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>>164484202
oops
>>
>>164484239
thank you good hunter
>>
I just entered Grand Cathedral (lamp was blocked) and I was attacked by Eileen. What the hell? I'm after Spider. Last time I've seen her was in front of Cathedral Ward.
>>
>hunting executioners
>>
>>164471340
I'm also upset with how distant areas look.

>can't see Healing Church Workshop tower from some places
>the area between BSB's chapel and the stair leading to it are pure brick paths when looking from above
>Old Workshop when seen from afar doesn't have any buildings by it (except small ones)
>looking at the path to Yahar'Gul from the Church Workshop shows some scaffolds for some reason where the axe executioners are

Also the very poor LOD or whatever when looking at another section of the same area you're in.
>>
>>164484767
End her misery, anon. She would want that.
>>
SHOULD WE EVEN TRY AGAIN
>>
>>164484767
you have to help her kill henryk before you kil rom, other wise she gets pissed off
>>
How do I beat the minigun user in Hunter's Nightmare? Parry windows seem VERY odd/tight. Definitely harder than Cainhurst Crow.
>>
does this game make sense geographically or do we have any situations like in DS2
>>
>fight ludwig the gay ass horse
>get hit once by a normal attack
>go away and heal
>healing slows me get hit again
>go away and heal
>healing slows me and get hit again
>he storms at me like a train and almost oneshots me despite
>time to heal

>somehow get to ludwig with sword
>he just keeps on attacking
>if I get hit once I'll die because he'll hit me 2 times more
>get him to ~1/5th
>die

>Can't use fire or boltpaper because of Chikagay

Such is the life of a shitter.
Also is there any time it would be good to shoot at him?
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>>164485115
This is what I get for playing semi-blind, spoiling unwanted shit and still missing half the content. Fuck my life.
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>>164485226
Absolutely. You can see places you will soon visit in the distance
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>>164485226
Some minor inconsistencies when it comes to detail of specific areas, but actual layout of each on makes sense. See the long greentext above for more info.
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>>164485307
Ignore the despite
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Why do I come here every day?
>>
DO YOU GUYS WANT TO RING AT THE CHURCH LAMP
>>
Speaking of which, just started my first actual Souls game, DaS2, BB being the first. Any tips from /bbg/? Just beat Dragon Rider.
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>>164485197
Lead him around the big rock and when he stops shooting batter him.
>>
Executioner here, just run pass the enemies.
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>>164485456
yeah, play 1
>>
>>164460053
Does BB have a better boss fight than ds3 dlc boss fight?
>>
does anyone wanna help me with chalice rom? im really getting the business here ;_;
password is meme
>>
coop question: when people come help someone in a dungeon with a password, does the cooperator need that dungeon active on their tombstones? Or do you just use the short ritual root chalice?
>>
Anyone doing FRC spelunking?

Or anything that could net me some Insight? I'm short 3 Yellow Backbones on my main character, but out of Insight on my NG+ character that I've been using to open new chalices.

>>164485456
>actual Souls game
>DaS2
Don't play it it's shit.
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>>164485325
It took me 4 playthroughs until I got Eileen's questline right. Don't worry about it.
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>>164485428
because /bbg/ is the comfiest place
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¡Allí está!
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>>164485570
anyone?
>>
Wich build is fun to play ?
I'm the kind of faggot who always play with the Rakuyo but I really want to change. But I just can't stop getting back to it.
>>
What am I supposed to do when Ludwig ramms his sword into the ground and acts like a space moses dividing the kosmos?
>>
>>164485876
I'm having quite a lot of fun with a pure Arcane build.
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>>164485987
get as close to him as possible then get to his back
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which trick weapon would a student of mensis prefer?
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>>164485874
AWAY! AWAY!
>>
>>164485570
>>164485874
I'll help yal
>>
QT EXECUTIONER
One more try m8, ringing at that last lamp
We got this
>>
>>164486189
no
Still ringing at chalice rom if anyone wants to help, password is meme
>>
>>164471340
Dude, it's not that hard.

The Yahar'gul thing happened while we were killing Rom. In fact, killing Rom might have caused it to go off prematurely or forced Mensis to do just do it then and there. You're in a bizarre lake dimension that is clearly not in the waking world, you can't judge the lengths of time or how long you were out cold after the moon descended or how long it took you to manifest back at the bath from Moonside Lake. Time scales in Bloodborne aren't terribly clear due to the alien nature of pretty much everything happening around you.

Also, the melted down people thing was in Yahar'gul alone. That's Mensis' HQ, like Upper Cathedral Ward is the Choir's HQ. No reason for it to be in Central Yharnam or Cathedral Ward at all. That's also part of the horror, you can get kidnapped by the Bagmen early on and see Yahar'gul as a veiled, comparatively normal section of the city. Kill Rom and all of a sudden, all the people you didn't see who had been kidnapped like you and nun were driven out and melted down, husks fused to the walls. It's the disparity between the two forms that's supposed to be shocking. You're not supposed to see it.

And names aren't face-value literal. Yahar'gul is probably pretty unseen to your average Yharnamite. It's not a residential area, it's a mad cult's headquarters and prison. It has two ways in and out, both through colossal barred doors, one lost at the bottom of abandoned Old Yharnam with a Darkbeast behind it and the other tucked around the side of the Grand Cathedral with an Amygdala perched over it.
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>>164486226
The downscaling is rough, ringing
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>>164485987
This attack always gets me, but I often manage to avoid it if you just run around him in a medium range circle to get behind him. The tracking is complete bullshit though.
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>>164485574
You need to have opened the chalice yourself at one point (doesn't need to be active on a tombstone, you just need to have once been in there) or own the root chalice of the chalice you're trying to be summoned to.
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>>164485876
Bloodtinge or arcane ya fukwit
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>>164486319
Fuck dude, sorry
Thanks for the consistent help though <3
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>>164486410
Cool. Yeah wanted to be sure as I've gotten bbg help in my chalices and wanted to pay it forward
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>>164486576
No worries. You done for today?
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>>164486267
I'm ringing but nothing is habbebing
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>>164486745
;_;
well still ringing at rom and password is meme
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Anyone wanna help on Amydala in defiled?
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>>164486792
chalice rom i mean
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>>164486698
Nah not the whole day, atleast i shouldn't be
Tried him once solo before getting off and instantly died in phase 2 lol
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>>164486928
I find phase 2 a lot easier than phase 1
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>>164486886
Sure pass?
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>>164486979
HECK no m8
But I'm going to go through old yharnam before trying him again so it should be easier
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>>164486745
guess il just have to try and git gud
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>>164487005
I cheesed him, but thanks!
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>>164487103
Sorry bruv. It wasn't connecting. Just use the pillars for cover and take your time killing the spiders
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>they laughed at me when I pumped end to 40
Pshhhhhhhhhhhhh
https://youtu.be/u2qQzWe4ggM
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>>164485428
because bb is the best game to play with skilled bros?
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>>164487203
thanks for trying anyway
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>>164485428
Comfy bantz and cosmic tier memes
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Can anyone help with Lawrence? Ringing by entrance, pass is bbg, level 115
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>extra autismal thinking
guys what if surrogates really exist and luci is one of them?
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>>164487554
Very nice senpai
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DOLL VORE
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>>164487554
>echoes retrieved
>against keeper
>implied bully video
top kek
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>tfw chalice dungeons give you anxiety
I don't know. Never happened in a game before besides some horror games/segments, which is more akin to heebie jeebies than anxiety. I also kinda feel "rushed" like I'm on a timer. And the first time I've felt something close to claustrophobia ever.
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>>164488256
HEY Knew I should've cut that part out
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>>164488273
Playing without sound gives me anxiety in the chalice dungeons
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>>164488139
luci was a failed abortion though
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>>164488273
it's those red spiders, isn't it?
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>>164488120
ty good hunter
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>Get Ludwig to 2nd Phase like 6 times in a row
>Don't beat him
The delay on all of his attacks fucks me over so badly
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>>164488510
Nah, I think the bell bitches instead. And hallways after hallways with occasional big rooms.
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Why do Executioners and Vilebloods fight? Explain this to me, Hunters. Why are you spilling each other's blood instead of crushing vermin?
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anyone wanna help with lower pth BLB? password is bbg1
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>Tfw just got A Call Beyond on my arcane build.

Shrekking everything never felt this good.
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>>164488806
one of the vilebloods stoll blood from bygenworth or however its spelt then the church got pissed off for some reason and went after them because they saw them as corrupted.
executioners are delusional and shouldnt be trusted
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>>164488875

Your eyes are finally open. Now you begin to see.
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>>164489000
Trips don't lie. Executioners summon their uncontrollable tard rage because all they want to do is smash things under the illusion of good will. As blood-addled as they get, the sadistic bastards. Nobody working for the church should be trusted.
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>>164488873
sure, omw
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>>164488220
This image is legitimately fucking unsettling
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>mfw maria's second phase
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>>164489000
>the church got pissed off for some reason and went after them because they saw them as corrupted.

Nice trips vileblood, but don't try to pretend you did nothing wrong.
>call yourselves VILEbloods
>even Annalise says "yeah this shit is corrupted af"
>start going after hunters because she can't get over the fact she's infertile
>"why is the Church so mad lol"

We told you that blood kills braincells but nooooo you wanted a waifu.
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thanks void, managed to kill it with arrows after. much appreciated. assuming >>164489310 isnt void then dont worry, we killed it.
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>>164489279
>>164489000
>willingly letting yourselves get cucked by a dead hunter's blood semen so your queen can have a child of someone not from her own kingdom
I didn't even revive her.
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>>164488273
They're pretty eerie at times. You really want to fuck yourself up, try this chalice someone posted from a few threads back. That was a weird night.
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>>164487554
Lol um looks like she bullied you first
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I FOOKIN DID IT LADS FOOK YESELF LUDWIG
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I've run FRC pthumeru for gems a while and now I wanna run Isz. Do I need to open the chalice in FRC to get access to FRC glyphs when I have already opened Pthumero with it?
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Ringing for Loran Silverbeast, lower loran, pass bbg
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>>164489343
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Why is she so tall?
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>>164489385
>Church
>not mad
I'm sure that blood tastes great, you beast. Keep drinking it. And don't mind all that hair you're growing.
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>>164489450
>implying we actually get cucked
kek
executions r gay
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>>164489492
Ludwig is considered hard? I just beat him on my second try.
Honestly the fucking chalice dungeons are way worse.
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>>164489454
Link to thread? Searching up the code brings nothing up.
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>>164489585

You're both wrong. The League is the only faction for a Good Hunter to belong to. All others are blood drunk abominations.
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>>164489501
omw
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>>164488806
Vilebloods kill Hunters for Dregs, Church saw this as a problem and sent Executioners to deal with it.
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>>164489450
>Implying I don't mix my semen and blood and give it to her
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>>164489315
I have more
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>>164489638
ludwig is really easy if you're over leveled
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why do executioner scum say vilebloods are cucked?
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>>164489546
my timing is off ;_;
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>>164489701
Running the next 2 layers if you want to join again broseph
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>>164489493
no, you just need to have the Isz root chalice in your inventory
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>>164489690
Hunter of Hunters is more exciting.
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>>164489638
Game's hard when you're a shitter.
But the joy is bigger if I had like a 1000 tries instead of 2.
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>>164489553
nah, you're just a manlet
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>>164489585
>I get to yiff with Amelia
>you get to be a disgusting mosquito that eats blood off the floor

Seems alright senpai.
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>>164489829
What difference does it make?
Being overleveled just means dumping blood echoes into secondary stats. You hit the cap on the stats that matter before even getting to the dlc anyway.
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>>164489553
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anyone willing to kill ludwig with me?
thrice now he's survived on less than 3 hits of health and im tired of his shit
ringing outside fog, pw 7421
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>>164490063
omw
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>want to do arcane build
>but unless i go for autism gems strength or skill builds with fire/bolt paper are better
why does this have to be the case?
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>>164489995

Considering that the longer a Hunter resists the change, the more powerful and horrifying the beast, what would the Good Hunter become?
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>>164489995
You get to be shredded and burned with her too! Laurence is a fucking idiot, and anything that came as a result of him screwing with the blood is equally retarded.
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>>164490061
lel
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>>164489996
Not if you are BL 40
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>tfw playing through the game for the first time and realizing how many quest lines I've already fucked up
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>>164490109
thank you!!
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>>164489454
I created a chalice that had many dark rooms with ritekeepers summoning those black things with eerie white eyes. Here's an example of how spooky it got.
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>>164490176
Something Ludwig level.

>>164490234
>No your flavour of blood is fucked
>says the Vileblood

???
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>Do Chalice Dungeons up until depth 4
>Now level 85
>The rest of the game feels like I'm severely overleveled

This is bad game design desu.
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>>164490350
>implying I'm a Vileblood
It only takes common sense to realize that blood that turns you into a beast is fucked
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>>164489660
Shit, really? Might be gone now or something. It was ages back, though, we've been burning through threads pretty quick, all I saved was this image from it and another anon's haunted save where bosses were named after different bosses.

If you want to know the deal with it it was just completely empty, save for exactly 7 regular Pthumerian skeleton guys. No treasure, no items, there were no boss doors and no bosses. Just three layers of emptiness. People tried seeing if invasions worked, but the bell maiden died the second she spawned in. It was fucking spooky. I didn't see it myself, but apparently two other anons found a void at the end of the third layer, if you jumped into it you'd respawn back in the Dream.
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>>164490326
Shit posted image. Here's webm
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>>164482370
He doesn't know what summon ranges are
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>>164489817
How and why are you doing this
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>>164490367
If you did the opposite, all of the depth 1-3 dungeons would be a chore.
Don't worry, it's the intended way to play. Gehrman tells you that in the beginning of the game. Got a chalice - get as deeps as you can before proceeding with the main game.
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>no way to reallocate stats
>can't use acquired weapons on base NG
>can't summon your other files to play with the one you're using
will never not be mad
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>>164490527
Oh my god fuck that completely
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>>164490527
Eh, I've seen those rooms before. They're really not a big deal.
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why'd they decide to make invading so rare in this game? It only really happens to you in nightmare frontier potentially, yea a woman appears if you use the bell too much but then an invader has to also be trying to ring in whatever random spot you are

I was wondering if I just missed a requirement my first 70 hour playthroughs for being invaded or something, there's not even a coliseum like ds1/2 (altho tbf those kinda sucked)
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Is there an upgrade to the belt lantern in BB or am I thinking Dragon's Dogma?
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>>164490967
there's no upgrade to the belt lantern
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>>164490959
Nightmare Frontier and Mensis are the only places you can be 'naturally' invaded as there's a bell woman already there, and a bell woman appears if you use a beckoning bell at all, otherwise you can't be invaded.

You also have take into account level ranges between you and invaders, Frontier is good for lower level invasion, Mensis for higher, anything in between and beyond is a mystery, really depends on your level and whoever's around.
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is there any actual reasons to use any other weapons than a fire saw spear and a bolt saif on an arcane build?
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>>164490670
>can't reallocate stats

DAS 2 had this but it de-emphasized build permanence and made the process of levelling up less important or serious. Hard to gethe attached to a build when you know that at any time you can just fucking reallocate and make a different one. Why even have a specific build when one character can be any build you want?

>can't use acquired weapons in base NG

What does this even mean? There isn't a single weapon that requires going to NG+ to use, not even Burial Blade.

>can't summon your other files

This is just gimmicky and dumb, and programming AI for every possible build would be a fucking hassle.
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>>164489901
Sorry about that wait. Someone was at my door
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>>164491445
No worries m8, waiting by next lamp, bell ringing
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>>164491346
if you want to have fun
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If you have more insight why is it easier to get frenzied considering you're smarter?
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>>164491596
insight leads to madness
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>>164491596
You start to understand why what you're seeing is bad.
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>>164491393
Because then you have more options, and don't have to dick around levelling up from a new game to play how you want.

And with all weapons unlocked in base NG, no need to have to deal with NG+ enemy stats. Just the basic game with the entire arsenal at your disposal. Plus, never needing to do a new file, go through up to almost the entire game, then have every weapon to do... nothing but farm or NG+.
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>>164490670
I'm on my first playthrough, spent additional 10STR to try cannon 2 times for shits and giggles just to end up pissed I can't use tools or fancy guns. I will probably end up with mid level in everything. It's annoying you have to either spoil yourself with equipement and biuld videos or reply whole game because you picked wrong stats for some endgame item.
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is there any advantage of a whirligig over saw spear on an arcane build?
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>>164491516
maybe i can join too?
bbg is the pass?
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>>164491596
Because frenzy is starting to comprehending the incomprehensible. If you're slow at thinking it happens naturally slower.
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>>164491596
>tfw to smart to not get frenzy
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>>164491951
yeah
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>>164491907
>>164491930
Honestly not sure why Miyazaki didn't implement something like this. It's From's "gameplay first" maxim in it's purest form.
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just made a fresh new FRC Ihyll
anyone want to go spelunking?
ringing with password bbg123
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>>164491516
Oops
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>>164492253
no worries, all cleared anyway, making my way to the next bit, bell still active
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>>164491804
>>164491892
>>164491990
>>164492027
THIS IS FRIGHTENING
Thank you
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>>164492208
Be joining you in 10 mins, anon. Got to take a call
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>>164491907
>>164491930
Just go bl 240 and use everything. And of course you won't know what you're doing on your first time, that's the fun of it. Though, I agree with the respec thing even if it could be done one time per character, you mess up on the leveling screen once and say bye to minmax.
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>>164492149
sorry m8, I'll go for >>164492208
I like ihyll chalices
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>>164492347
alright, thanks for the help!
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>trying to invade hunters nightmare
>im shit though
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>>164492208
I'll join. Feels like a race to get there first...
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>faggot with bone ash set and chikage invades me
>walks slowly towards me
>stops and does the "point forward" emote
>charges at me and transforms chikage
>hit him once with my buffed tonitrus and he dies

why are BLT builders such edgy faggots?
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>>164492208
omw
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>>164492253
fuck, ringing again
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>>164492208
Let us know if you find any Yellow Backbone, yeah?
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>>164492298
Love that part.
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Jesus, how many of you plan on going? There were already enough replies
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>>164492481
only saw chikage at first and thought i was the person as im being a shitter in hunters nightmare with a chikage and failing :^) but yeah im getting killed by people with holy blades
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>>164492640
I was ringing the small resonant bell up until now
ringing beckoning bell for realsies now
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>>164492664
LHB fags are just as boring imo.
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>>164492587
you know that if you kill the wet nurse, you can buy all the chalice materials?
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>>164492763
>2 extra replies after the initial 2
Ridiculous
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>>164492602
those fucking hounds are the worst
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>>164492863
>meanwhile it took me two days to get anyone to go spelunking in my FRC Ihyll
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>>164492763
host here, im not getting anyone, gonna restart and ring again
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>>164492782
cant get kills with the chikage as im shit with it
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now we just have to find micolash and we're good
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>>164493010
I invaded someone as a vileblood, that wasn't you?
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>>164493313
no, is someone else using the same password??
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>ring for gascoigne cause why not, let someone get echoes
>guy is really good and messages me asking if I wanna help him too
>after a nice short conversation we bully gascoigne into submission
this game and its community are nice and I like this
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:^)
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>>164480939
No, they're just creatures of the cosmos that they found in the dungeons.
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>>164492602
damn, and I got a bloodrock from that. Need to do more main story stuff now, thanks for the help good hunter
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>>164493405
bbg123 right? If so, yes.
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>still invading hunters nightmare around ludwig
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>>164493195
>engraved menorah
>in a water tank
holy wat
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>>164493587
dang, im going to switch to new password then
new password:
bbgfun
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>>164493539
No prob senpai. lookin to help where I can
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>students are slimy and spineless

What did Miyazaki mean by this?
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>tfw you make an exciting new FRC and SRRC doesnt work
I'm gonna ring with password
bbgfun
for a few more minutes than i guess ill run through it alone
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>>164492827
>You really think someone would do that? Go on the internet and lie?
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>>164494098
that theyre slimy and have no spine
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>>164493675
want to run yahar'gul, cancerous village with me then? im overlevelled and overgeared but coop is good times
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>>164494175
Absolutly
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>>164494104
You have to Share it.

And you should post the glyph too since Smalls are faster than SRRC.
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stupid question but did you open the new chalice, bbgfun bro?
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>>164494104
Is it set to Open? Also, share the glyph. Might be easier to ring from Layer 1.
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>when you invade and the co-oper just keeps spamming pistol
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Anyone give me a quick hand with amelia? Pass is Draper ringing at cathedral ward lamp
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>>164494312
>>164494343
>>164494356
i am very embarrassed right now, chalice is set to open, glyph is nx48k95r
pw: bbgfun
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>>164494312
>>164494343
>>164494356
bloodmind
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>>164494393
>it does no damage so you just stand there and Brush Off Dust
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>>164494465
Wait shit. We got three people joining? I'll drop out, sorry.
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>>164494447
omw
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How much of a shit idea is this? It's not really supposed to be good, I just feel like making a crappy meme build
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>>164494549
no I'm going to bed
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>tfw people entering ludwigs area as soon as i invade
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>>164494549
Don't; I'm (>>164494312) gonna run it alone.
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>>164494542
>he's a 50 blt evelyn user
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>>164494549
Actually, it's four but now it's three. I'm not giving up.
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>>164494698
Nah you lads go on ahead. I don't want to take anybody's spot, since I was one of the ones who replied to the original post last
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>>164494098
>that one lazy guy who never leaves his chair
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>>164494667
>10 arc
??
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>>164494829
don't worry bro, i already planned to play a little and go to bed
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>>164494575
thank you hibiki
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>>164494873
Flat gems, no?
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sorry about that ill try to play safer, ringing again
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>>164494667
Vit-gouge Wheel is pretty good with Flat Arc gems. Rapid Poison is worse but still viable. It'll get boring quick though since you're only relying on mult-hits, so that means you'll mainly dash r1 everything. R2s are okay too.
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>>164494873
Base stats for wheel. Thought of either doing flat arc gems or some shitty poison setup
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>>164478714
Stop with your shit life
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>>164494873
For the wheel you dunce.

>>164494667
Do it, poison wheel works wonders. It'll be a pain to get to FRC, but if you farm Loran Silverbeast, Isz Watchers and Bone Ash Hunters enough you'll be able to poison most players and a bunch of bosses in one dash r1.
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>>164493657
M A J E S T I C
A
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T
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so on my chikage/bow build im at 29/20/11/15/50/7 (sl:82). recommendations on where to put the last 16?
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>>164494159
sorry anon I forgot it's in NG+
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>>164495823
40-50 Vit, you're glass with 29. 14 Strength for Bloodletter.
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>>164495516
You sure told me.
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>>164494265
thanks for the help, man
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>>164496445
Gonna be finishing lecture hall L2 and upper cathedral, will let you know when im in Upper Cath if you want to rejoin
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layer one had some tough enemies, but nothing that special in terms of loot, got a heir rune from a chest
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Someone for defield hotdog?
pass: anon
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>>164496678
Ok, SRRCing in. We have spot for one more if you're wondering.
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>>164496641
Lol what lvl are you? Also for sure
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>>164496989
127, like I said, overlevelled for this stuff lol
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>>164496781
Lemme go to the restroom real quick and I'll srrc in.
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What the crap happend between Bloodborne and DaS 3?
Bloodbornes soundtrack is god teir, memorable melodic tunes through out the entire game and then das3 comes out and has like 3 good tracks in it.
Was Bloodbornes soundtrack so good because of Sonys funding or what happend?
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>>164496678
I underestimated the giant, ringing again.
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>>164496678
Layer 1 is pretty unremarkable but Layer 2 is pretty nuts.
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Anyone wanna help me run through cainhurst real fast and kill martyr? Pass is bbg at the ;lamp
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>>164497482
>>164497464
I killed the first one, then there was actually a 2nd waiting in ambush!
that's a first for me
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>>164497491
omw
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>>164497089
Ringing at Upper Cath lamp
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>>164497491
ringing
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>>164497437
Bloodborne was an original IP designed from the ground up to look good and be good.

DaS3 was a contractual obligation.
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>>164497624
And now we have to kill both, thanks Miyazaki.
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Is this good enough for a Burial Blade "build"?
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Help me understand Blunt/Thrust.
How do I know what a Ludwig sword does?
It's not a blunt weapon and it only thrusts when you R2.
I'm at Kos I should know this by now...
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>>164497952
more like oedon build am i right lads LOL
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>>164497952
Ooops.
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>>164498067
There's a google doc in the Calculations pastebin that shows you the move sets of each weapon, colour-coded for attack types. I'd link it, but I'm mobile right now.
IIRC, almost the entire tricked LHB moveset is blunt.
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>>164498067
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1doP2HShMmJcHZFTNSZ3yVFxbUu4U1aO6yHIk9-wQ1Wo/edit#gid=222193878
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>>164497775
I'm there
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>>164497634
wombo combo
>>164497817
ill grab you too if you're still ringing
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>>164497491
just changing character quick
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>>164497095
Thank you.
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>>164496781
Hope you got him. I realized just a little too late that I couldn't roll away.
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>>164498295
Ringing
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>>164498309
>>164498338
same person, and the character i wanted to go on hasnt got cainhurst so i guess its back to my edgymeme character
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>>164498120
Why 18 Blt and 10 Arc? 18 Blt Evelyn is worse than Hunter Pistol, and investing in Blt on a Skill build for gun damage is dumb unless you went 50/50. Military Veteran 25/50 Str/Skl would be a better Burial Blade build.
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When can you attack orphan of Kos?
After he finishes and I attack I go in and he immediately strikes back after one hit.
I can't figure how how to fight him when he never gives a chance
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>>164498309
re-ringing
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>>164498653
Ah, thanks. Didn't know it was worse.
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Show off your hunter

Heres mine
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>>164498802
AYY LMAO
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>>164498107
Lmao
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>>164497775
Just so you know I need to go through this place too to fight abrietas
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>>164499110
Sure, want to ring at lamp and I'll come to you?
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>>164498802
>Char
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>>164499176
Ring at lamp
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>>164498309
downscaling
is
a
bitch
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>>164499298
For my Ebrietas or yours? Do you need Upper Cath or just Ebs area?
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THERE MUST BE OODLES FOR US TO SHARE
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>>164499357
yeah it is, almost got him but got stuck on a pillar, I can wait for your one character if you wanna switch
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>>164498690
It'll be easier with fast weapons. I attack orphan of KoS after almost every dodge whenever I'm close.
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>>164499378
Need to kill ay lmao first
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>>164499448
dont think it has cainhurst, forgot its on ng+, wanna try again quick?
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>>164499640
sure
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>summoned for defiled hotdog by some waifufag in the noble dress
>hotdog immediately does the puke attack when she enters
>then kills her in one bite
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>>164499663
ringing
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>>164499607
Alright, ring again on the inside of the glass and I'll join for your Eb
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>>164499378
Holy shit that was ng+ too
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>>164499968
out fucking skilled
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>>164499431
Was Alfred a party going teenager all along?
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>>164498802
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Wanna get into PvP but im not sure if PvP is still active, there still people in Australia/NZ(if that matters)?
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>>164500083
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I just beat amygdala again in an isz frc dungeon, but I still can't figure out perfectly his jump pattern.

If I stay still when he jumps am I supposed to always survive on his belly? It seems to frequently work, but not always. Maybe I just have to stay away from pillars for them not to change his trajectory?
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>>164500083
What the fuck am I looking at here?
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>>164500183
It's still active.

We also have weekly fightclubs here. Australia means sometimes shitty connection but it hasn't stopped me.
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>>164500083
Dunwich/10
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>>164499663
lol i had no blood viles for like the last 1/4 of that fight
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>>164499968
ty for the hunting friend, im off for tonight though. take it easy
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>>164500083
I hope you named it circumcised vagina
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>>164500662
haha I figured. Thanks Max. That downscaling sucks but its almost like 2 people versus a raid boss at that point so it was pretty fun
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>>164500672
Nice hoonting with you.
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>>164500730
yeah that was pretty tense but fun
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>>164500820
Now I get to go spelunking for a lost chikage so I too can be an edgelord. Happy hunting.
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>>164500338
It just takes time to learn. Over time you just get the feeling of when to dodge so you're in i-frames when he lands. It's hard to describe, you sort of just get the feeling. I more or less know when to dodge and the jumps are never usually a problem for me, but he does catch me out the odd time.
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>>164498107
You're right
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>>164500951
thats what im going for right now too
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>>164501041
id say we should spelunk together but I havent done a single chalice yet. Gotta go kill BSB and start down
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Neat. Didn't know these Goliath Pigs could actually be parried.
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>>164500979
But even if I time it correctly, wouldn't I die if I dodge to a place still below his members or there would be no damage?
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>>164501137
dungeons with regular chikage arnt fun
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>>164501271
The more you know
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>>164501271
I didn't know that shit.
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Hello chaps.
Would anyone mind helping me out with the Research Hall?
pass is bbg2
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>>164501271
Damn, these fuckers were so easy to backstab I never even considered trying to parry them.

It's fascinating that even after two years you still learn new stuff about this game.
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>>164501362
I can't wait to kill myself
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>that room with hotdog and giant
also can you you detonate those urns by rolling into them or did you blow me up by shooting em
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>>164501271
TIL, and is that Loran? I've never seen that area that brightly lit.
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I'm so sorry I was trying to make it safer to cross, Ihyll anon.
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I don't know where to put the 6 points.
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>>164501346
I-frames is I-frames, I've dodged directly under him and came out unscathed, it's being in your i-frames that matters. It's all about timing. Honestly I've fought that fucking thing so many damn times I can feel rhythm to the fight, now he's just a chore.
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>>164500083
I found it when SRRCing for randoms. Isn't it majestic?
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>>164501594
Yeah, that's in Lower Loran. You can also parry the attack where they stand on their hind legs and squash you. I've always thought that only humanoid enemies could be parried.
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>>164501712
Endurance would probably be the best considering you feel the need for two stamina runes already.
>>164501732
I guess. Since it's a 50 arc character, I wonder if I should just stay in front using ranged attacks to avoid having him jump and take the risks with the energy arms that I can at least see. I always end with a fair amount of vials and bullets anyway.
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>>164501558
I shot them, sorry. >>164501616
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>>164501558
You lads found a Hotdog mob? That's fantastic
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>>164502151
yes wanna join? password is bbgfun

also we should try to see if we can SBB them
would be really neat if that works
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>>164502151
He's on a oil pit and there's a cannon giant near him. Send help.
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>>164501851
First Kenneth, now Caine...whuch mysterious Beckoner will complete the Eldritch Trinity?
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>>164501712
Str for LHB. Or 5 in End and 1 in Blt for Reiter.
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>>164502704
>oil pit + cannon giant
Oh the horror. Ihyll have mercy on the poor bastards.
Can't join you guys, but I'll check the glyph later. Been hunting for boss mobs, and I haven't found a Hotdog mob yet
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>>164501540
get a bowblade if you can aswell, the 1 extra point in skill is worth it
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>>164502963
I managed to get this guy in my chalice. I saw someone else who had a shadow of yharnam in theirs.
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>>164502713
Have a co-operator do a suicide run with a shaman bone blade
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>>164502057
>Since it's a 50 arc character

Oh dude, then throw on your Formless Oedeons and spam Blackskye Eye and Accursed Brew, but choose your timings for when you've got a clear shot at the head. I wouldn't recommend Gloves because they eat up your bullets like no one's business. I'd say even bring an Oedon Writhe in case you stun him and can get back bullets on a visceral attack.

When you're out of bullets, start going for the head with a weapon.
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>>164503028
yeah I planned on running nothinpersonel, bowblade, evelyn and idk what for the last
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>>164502963
>oil pit + cannon giant
There's at least one BAH and this cool guy in there too.
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>>164503064
>The horror that is Pthumerian HMPH
Calling my mommy. I remember a cold abyssal glyph having some HMPH mobs in one of its layers
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>>164502963
I wanna come too!
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I'm at like attempt 50 with Orphan of Kos and I've still no luck. I'm almost 120 and it's even NG+ yet.
Aside gitting gud, is it my weapon/stats?
30 str 25 skill
Ludwig Sword +10 with two 12.7 phys attack up gems.

I'm pulling my hairs on this one and I really am believing this is the hardest boss From made.
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>>164503397
You join those lads, anon. You join them and have a great time spelunking.

Too bad some of these mobs don't respawn once killed. I know BSB mobs are gone for good in such cases. I'd imagine the same for HMPH and Hotdog
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>>164503223
can put 2 points into str and get bloodlett if you want to go full meme
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>>164503514
He is hard for the first time.
Then you get it, and then he becomes a boss you fight for fun.
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>>164503703
not a terrible idea, ill look into it
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>>164503386
If I remember correctly, that chalice had bone ash hunters in every layer, beast-possessed soul, ritekeepers that summon those black mobs, and a cainhurst knight immediately in the bonus room when you first enter the dungeon. Then of course HMPH and a brainsucker in a ihyll chalice.
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>>164503514
>BL120
>30STR, 25SKL

Where are the rest of the points going, anon? Also my good lad, get a third gem for your weapon.

Do you have any other +10 weapons? Ludwig's is a slow ass weapon and Orphan is a fast boy. Even the untricked sword would probably suit you better just for speed's sake. And fire paper, if you have any, he's weak to fire.

I also fought him like 50 times my first time, was using a Hunter's Axe, terrible idea really.
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>>164503514
>almost BL120
>LHB
>only two gems in it
>aren't even as good as Mensis gems

This is a really good false flag, right?
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>>164503159
I'll try it on next opportunity. Even if I just leave him with less health, I can rush below him and reducing the amount of jumps will still help a lot, I always survive 5-10 jumps before he randomly falls right on me. I end up playing safe and focusing on his tail and legs which take too much time, with the eventual head hit when he falls well positioned,

Blacksky eye does 350 damage on his head and 250 on his body I think, and a charged HMLS beam 900 damage but that one is probably too unsafe to use (maybe uncharged depending on how long between attacks).
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>>164502841


It might be whoever is hiding behind this mask
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>>164503514
How much Vit you got? At least 30 is recommended. You could farm the Winter Lanterns nearby for 22.3% Physical Droplets. If you can parry Orphan with those, he'll go down pretty quickly especially with Clawmark Runes. Also runes that give health/bullets from visceral attacks are buffed for the first phase.
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and it ends with a headless BLB in layer 3, dropped an abyssal too
thanks for joining! that was a lot of fun
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>>164503981
In about 500 hours and several dozen Amy kills, I've been killed by the jump twice.

You're vastly overthinking this. Just stand under his legs, pick one, and hit it. When he jumps wait about half a second and roll. It's that easy.
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>>164503981
The tail and legs are basically useless to attack since the damage is so small. His arms take regular damage so, and are a much large target for HMLS beams, but try and focus on the head. Brew has an explosion so it's pretty much a guaranteed hit if you're within range, and does about twice the damage of a Blacksky Eye.

You'll get him, anon. Amy's not fun, but there's a rhythm to the fight.
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Was that the last layer? If it was I had bbgfun, thanks Noble.
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>>164503514
I have only tried 7-8 times so far, but I'm stuck on orphan of kosm as well on NG. I have a similar build - 30 str, 25 skl, 38 vit, +10 ludwig, my gems are a somewhat better though, I recommend maybe looking into that.

He has so much hp it gets forever to drop him to half while avoiding hits. And when I finally get to phase 2, with some difficulty, I get combo'd to death or die to his lightning. I refuse to visceral him to death, I felt bad after parrying Maria twice and winning that fight.
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>>164503514
> Ludwig Sword +10 with two 12.7 phys attack up gems.

Mate....

There's a free 18% gem in Yharhagul, another similar in Mensis (droplet shape so it fits in any slot) and a 15% nourishing radial. Those are just sitting on the ground waiting to be picked up.

But they are irrelevent since just outside Orphan's Boss room is two Winter Lanterns who drop 22.3% Droplet gems. It will take 20 minutes of farming max to get a decent set, less if you don't care about them being perfect. Just equip the eye rune from Willem and Mensis and wear frenzy resist clothes + rune. Your damage will go up by an insane amount. Instead of being a 1.26 total Modifer it will become 1.83.
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>>164504060
Fucking beautiful
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>>164504601
yes, it was the last layer
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>>164503980
Oh no, I have three gems, I forgot the last one, it was like a 7.3% attack up from what I remember.

I'm pretty sure they're shitty.

My stamina is also at 25 and Vit is 30. Bloodtinge is 22.

Apologies if I sound like a mess, I've been playing this game blind under now.
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>>164503981
If you got 18 Strength you could always use a Fire Stake and Oil Urns.
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>>164504695
>>164504721
Why are you niggers propagating the stereotype that all LHB users are bad?

For God's sake, get 45 Vit, get 50Str, and get some goddamn better gems. You get 22%s right there in the damn Hamlet.
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>>164504784
Fucking hell
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Whats the best version for a HMS? I have 40 str and 50 arc, also, which gems should i aim for?
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>>164505003
Nourishing gems.

People will say Lost but it's six of one. Get the gems first and let then be the deciding factor.
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>>164505003
Lost or Regular. Nourishing Radials from gargoyles/Rom, Triangles/Wanings from Amy.
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>>164505003
OP, read it.
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I hate the undead giant in the first pthumeru chalice, hotdog gives me less trouble
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>>164504784

Sweet jesus
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>>164504871
Where did I imply all Ludwig's users were bad?

I was expressing disbelief that he somehow made it to Fishing Hamlet without finding any better gems. Even if you kill no enemies there's 18% radial in Yharhagul, 17% in Cainhurst and a 18% (I think) droplet in Mensis.
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>>164505576
Yeah whoops it was meant for >>164504662 and >>164504721
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what's the most difficult room you guys have ever encountered in a chalice dungeon? Something like this: >>164490527 maybe?

Worst room I've ever come across was a wide but short hall (with ladders) with a cannon undead giant and like 2 troupes of those labyrinth rifle guards with their two dogs each. The undead giant was perceptive as fuck once he spotted you for the first time, and I couldn't go anywhere without him shooting at me (and his cannonballs destroyed all sources of cover)

I discovered later on that the mob version of the undead giant will miss all his cannon shots at just outside of melee range, so maybe I could beat that room if I gave it a go today... >>164490864
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When backing up a BB save, am I only backing up the save from the user I'm logged in as, or am I backing up the saves of all my PS4 user accounts?
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>>164506142
Former
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>>164503845
>>164503386
what glyph? I want to play that shit, sounds fun
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>>164506096
Hard to say.

Most of the worst rooms I've seen are optional, or can otherwise be circumvented or largely trivialized with Blue Elixirs.

A couple of the worst are obviously that dual spider maiden pre-lamp bonus area in story Ailing or Lower Loran, and the room filled with emissaries, brainsuckers, and two lycanthropes in story Isz.
One of the lever rooms in Defiled Pthu can be a pain in the ass too. Pic related.
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>>164504784
I just decided "fuck it" and spent my upgrade materials to bring my untouched stake driver to +10 and WOW this thing is fucking awesome. What a badass weapon. The charged R2 is the most satisfying attack to land in the entire game
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>>164506801
kxhp35ny

I was wrong about cainhurst hunter being in the first room. That's in my isz chalice.

Just so you know the bosses are: Undead Giant, Maneater Boar, and HBLB
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anyone wanna help with loran abhorrent beast? password is meme
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>>164507060
why did the boss take so much more damage from that than the little guy next to him?
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>>164506943
There's one in Ihyll that's worse. Two dogs, a crossbow knight and a rifle hood Pthumerian right in front of the lever room guarded by a bunch of skinny Pthus and a rooling fatty.
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>>164507437
Lower Loran?
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>>164507060
Yeah dude.
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Is Bloodborne worth a PS+ subscription?
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>>164507529
just normal ailing loran
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>>164507641
Alright, I'll SRRC in.
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>>164507437

Be there in a moment.
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>>164504784
>>164507060
>>164507530
What's the best build if you want to go stake driver
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>>164507708
>>164507725
not sure whats going on, people were having problems connecting to me earlier aswell. weird thing was its only been happening in dungeons
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>>164508218
Damn, but if you get the other anon, go on ahead. No need to wait
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>>164507060
Even more satisfying than flattening something with a fully charged Kirkhammer R2? Damn.
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>>164507708
>>164507725
>>164508218
just gonna restart my console quickly, doubt itll mae a difference but fuck it may aswell try
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>>164507537
I caved in and bought it to beat Laurence, never looked back. Have had many fun nights co-oping on /bbg/.
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>>164508218

Are you seeing fogwalls go up? In that case it might be NAT issues most likely. If not, then SRRC is being a cunt.

I actually happened to have Ailing Loran open, ringing by the lamp.
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>>164508073
50 STR, 50 SKL. Base vitality, use three Charge ATK up 12% + ATK up at Low HP 27% gems and always run around at low HP. Have your other weapon be a broken +6 Beast Claw with three Stamina cost down 9% gems with ATK down curse for building Beasthood.

It would require perfect play, but you'd do 5000+ damage.
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>>164507060
I can't believe how much stamina that attack uses

>>164507471
I think it is because the boss had just finished swiping with one of its frenzied attacks. Both you and your enemies will take much more damage if you get hit right at the end of an attack / roll / dodge. Not sure what the exact multiplier is but it feels like at least 1.5x normal damage
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>>164508504
one min just restarting
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>>164508504
ringing
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>>164508504
ayy restarting worked
thanks vandeline, appreciated
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>>164509193

No problem, that was indeed laggy.

At one point you and the boss were both kinda just sliding around.
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lake runes:

are they worth it over clockwise or anti clockwise metamorphisis?
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>>164508073
50/50 Str/Skl with Charge Up or Blunts for the tricked R2. Or if you wanna use Oil Urns do 18+/50 Str/Arc with a Fire setup. 2 Colds and a 27.2% Triangle.
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>>164509324
I doubt it.

In FRCs ain't nothin' prying Clock-Clock-AntiClock off my Hunter
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>>164509324
>Lake / Great Lake vs Clockwise Metamorphosis

Early / mid game: no
NG++: fuck yes

later on all the enemies will start doing damage that will shred through 1900HP like it's nothing, and only damage reduction runes actually scale with the enemy's increased damage
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>bullet misses even though im almsot right infront of keeper
>2 hit by keeper
thanks keeper
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Best gems for burial blade STR/SKL
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>>164510716
If 25/50, (3)27.2% gems
Do some research and read the OP.
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>>164510884
If you guys stop spoon feeding maybe they would bother to read it.
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>>164511007
kys
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>>164511165
drink cum
>>
post cute bloodborne waifus
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>>164509752
>damage reduction runes actually scale with the enemy's increased damage
I don't think that's right. The runes just amplify the damage reduction given by your armor / clothing and your level. Equipping Great Lake 3 does not make you take 5% less damage across the board. It only multiplies all your defensive stats by 1.05. If you are naked, it does not increase your physical defense at all, because 0 times 1.05 still equals 0.

The damage formula in this game is weird but you are still probably right overall - that better damage reduction is superior to having more health when the enemy does high damage.

I always use clockwise metamorphosis 15% (+HP), Great lake 5% (all dmg) and Lake 7% (physical damage) when I am struggling against a boss
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>>164511251
gay
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>>164511165
Or some say kysm...
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>>164511449
memed
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New player, what level should I be when fighting Amelia because I'm getting my fucking shit kicked in.
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How is the stake driver for regular usage (not using it exclusively for the untricked R2 attack)? Is the tricked form just used to give it some horizontal slashing / non-thrust attacks, to make it easier to hit enemies?
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>>164511893
98
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Can someone please help me get the Rakuyo? I can with the frenzy ladies but those goddam shark dudes in the well I swear. Im in Lighthouse Hut lamp, pass:789, thanks !
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>>164512210
omw
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>>164511893
Maybe 30-40. She is a great fight but the walk up to her from the lamp is a major pain. You have to sneak past the scythe guy but you can (dangerously) run past everyone else.
What level are you now? VIT? How does she always end up killing you?
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>>164512210
NG+?
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>>164512278
Nah NG
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>>164512112
kek.
>>164511893
you can do it usually as soon as you reach her, so whatever level basically. say if you need help with her here
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>>164512210
wait for me pls
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What is he doing there?
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>>164512275
Lvl 19 with 14 vitality
Usually I fuck up a Dodge and get deleted instantly.
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>>164512479

Having a fun game of hide 'n seek obviously.
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>>164512210
you gotta bait out the anchor-shark's jumping lunge-attack (the really dangerous one where he combos), then shoot him right when he looks like he's about to flatten you with his torso. There's a pretty huge window to parry him there.

Then, once the other shark drops in (after you visceral the anchor one like 2-3 times), hit the anchor shark (or whichever shark you can) with a shaman bone blade to make him kill the unarmed shark, and finish him off as soon as he's done. Use the pillar in the middle to block them from both hitting you at once if you fuck up during this part at all
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Thanks for the Rakuyo you beautiful beautiful bastards
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> invade in the woods
> level 50 with +10 Burial Blade and Blades of Mercy
> new players get terrified of my giant scythe and veterans know I'm a twink (although to be fair I still havnt killed Rom)
> hit them then throw numbing mist as they heal
> hit them again
> walk menecingky towards them as they mash triangle, no idea why it's not working
> hide on the elevator with Blue Elixor while host and coop friend go up and down

This is incredible. I wish BB didn't have invasions so restricted, imagine how much fun it would be if solo players could be invaded as well. I think bell Maidans should spawn if you have 40+ insight regardless of if you are cooping. At 80 insight 2 invaders should be allowed in a world.
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>>164512479
Being a visual representation of the fact that the beast lurks within and you can't escape it.
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>>164512821
For some reason my Shaman blade's didn't seem to work.
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>>164511893
Lemme halp

Set a pass and ring your bell m8
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>>164512975
I don't have PS+ :(
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>>164512495
level up your vitality, it's way too low for your first playthrough. Learning the bosses moves is a lot of trial and error, and that means you will get hit every now and then. It will take much longer to learn if you are always getting one-shotted
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Anyone up for Old Yharman? Pass is bbg, ringing at the 1st lamp. NG
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>>164513086
make sure to use fire or bolt paper if you have it
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I've made another FRC Ihyll!
glyph: amje7ywt
if anyone wants to join me in some spelunking the password is bbgfrc
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what is a good boss to small resonant bell at?
doing ludwig atm but hosts keep dying to the phase 2 cone attack
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I'm Sl 48 and Logarius is raping me someone plz help
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>>164512479
There is a beast below the bed every time someone gets old blood transfusion, don't you remember the start of the game?
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>>164513086
They give you a 2 day free trial, and you can use it up to 7 times, one for each account.
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Jesus christ defiled hot dog is hard, i died like 7 times before downing him.

Fuck that explosion attack.
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>>164513193
ringing
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>>164513193
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>>164511893
10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms12ftbQv7U&feature=youtu.be
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>>164511282
no bully
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>>164513324
pls
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>>164513193
you worldwide nig?

I've been ringing for a while
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>>164513685
Gross
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>>164513086
serrated weapon (saw cleaver/saw spear are early game) and fire or bolt paper and giver her the business with those
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>tfw giving Amelia a good time
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>>164513850
Lemme restart real quick
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>>164513929
Don't
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>>164513685
luci/10
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>>164513929
I ain't clickin' that shit, nigga
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>>164514129
Nah don't worry, not the webm of the guy fucking the dog
i checked
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still no luck old yharnam anon
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>>164514237
that was bad
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>>164513773
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>>164514371
Oh well, it's probably on my end then
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>>164514435
Set a password and I'm coming
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>>164514435
set a password so higher levels can help you
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>>164514435
pass?
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>>164511894
You've got the modes switched. Tricked r2 is the big punch, untricked is horizontal while tricked is thrusts (doesn't do Thrust damage through which is BS). It's okay but not amazing, r1s are about the same speed as Saws but without serration. Tricked also has worser range. I think the jump attacks are the only Thrust attacks it has, the big punch is Blunt unless you convert the weapon.
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>>164514435
password is vg
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>>164514807
where you at
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>>164513929
>tfw I missed the image yesterday
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anyone wanna help me give defiled fire doggo the business?
password is kek
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>>164514807

Ringin'
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>>164514931
Believe me, you didn't want to see it.
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>>164515021
wh3r3
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>>164514890
logarius bossroom
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>>164514931
it wasnt that bad really. actually it was
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when I join a chalice dungeon via a glyph, do I spend any ritual materials?
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>>164515057
I was using the wrong bell like an idiot
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>>164515021
>>164514890
ok i changed it to bbg
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>>164514938
omw
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>>164515140
No
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>>164515175
No.
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>>164514938
still there?
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>>164515201
helllppppp
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>>164515540
yeah
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>>164515201
I'm ringing but I'm not getting anything.
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>>164515581
go into network settings and change it to worldwide
and make sure you're ringing the beckoning bell
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>>164515595

Are you sure you're using the beckoning bell? No one seems able to be summoned, so you I think you fucked up somewhere.
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>>164506096
A boring answer but honestly nothing fucks me up more than those hemwick witches who summon madones in a fucking blink of an eye, except maybe hellhounds

I found an elevator room with 5 Ritekeeprs throwing fireballs once though, that was funny but more an exercise in tedium than difficulty

Also found a swamp with 3 scythe giants once

Once found a chest guarded by a Cainhurst knight and a Bone Ash hunter, 2v1 is pretty rough even when they're NPCs
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Finally finished grinding arcane gems for pvp on my pure arcane build and oh boy it's shit.
Parasite of kos is so bad I can't believe I spent all that time grinding.
Not only is it slow as fuck but whenever a slow attack connects it does less damage then fast physical attacks.
Man arcane is a scam. What do I do now?
Just delete my character?
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>>164515816
ive been having problems with people connecting all day, yet its been fine whenever ive tried to connect to others
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>>164511282
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>>164515785
i do
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wanna try again?
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>>164515816
fucking chikage r2,sorry. up for trying again?
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Time for a fresh new thread
>>164516275
>>164516275
>>164516275
>>164516275
>>164516275
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>>164516184
photos mirrored but yeah
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>>164516290
yes
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>>164516434
fucking pushed into the wall and couldnt dodge out of it, i hate the fire doggo. ringing again if you wanna retry
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>Defiled Pthumeru
>Hotdog
Jesus fuck I might need to get PSN
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>>164516691
>>164516434
bloodtinge is bad for this :^)
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>>164517012
shit
he changed the direction of the atack
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>>164517012
ringing again if you wanna keep trying
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