/twg/ - Total War General

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First for Based Alaric

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>>164440105

3nd for i forgot to buy napoleon and warhammer during the sale and now im sad

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post em lads

xth for Stainless Steel a shit

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

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Jesus Christ, just how bad are Greenskins and Skarsnik against the fucking Dwarves? Everywhere I go if I don't get a good autoresolve fight I'm bound to lose the manual, and even if the balance is hugely in my favor when I auto I sometimes get defeats. What is this fucking bullshit? Dawi extermination when?

>>164440546
What difficulty?
Using any sort of combat mods?
Did you remember to focus on the army skill tree and get poison attacks at level 4?

>>164440546

dont even fight dwarfs without a waaagh backing you up, you're gonna have a bad time til you get black orcs.

>>164440643
Normal or Hard usually
No mods
Poison attacks on all my Lords

>>164440469
Are they playable in the game yet, or will they have their own DLC?

>>164440806

They are playable through mods but their roster is incomplete, most buildings do nothing and they use the Greenskin tech tree. They are getting a complete release as a free-DLC in February.

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This isn't funny you chaos shits.

>>164440105
Truly, Stirland is worst province.

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nth for shilling your own mod

Hey TWG. I am a history nut but terrible at these games.
Any videos I could watch to get good? Also should I start with Shogun 2 or Attilla?

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>Gobbo Archers

>>164441206

Start out with Shogun 2 then Fall of the Samurai then Attila. Or check out the other historical titles in the series after playing Shogun 2

Shogun 2 is pretty much the most polished and the easiest title to get into Total War

As for videos you can check out channels like Heir of Carthage or MrSmartDonkeyLP

>>164441206

For history games I have no idea who to watch, but PartyElite teaches Warhammer basics. It's applicable to most games, though, since military tactics hasn't changed much, even in a fantasy setting.

As for a starting game, Shogun 2. Attila has way more complex and punishing campaign mechanics than Shogun 2. If you want an easy jump-in point, Rome 2 would probably be best. Its campaign is simple enough to get good at and isn't too punishing like Attila, and it's slower than Shogun 2, giving you plenty of time to figure out what you are actually doing. Having said that, Shogun 2 is still a good starting point.

>>164440946

Just sit back and shoot them so they get forced to attack you :^)

>>164440546
you need trolls or skulkers. might be able to get away with spamming rock lobsters

>>164440546
Squigs, skulkers, trolls, a couple starting units (black orc/arachnarok), goblin shamans, rock lobbas, poison attacks neuter dwarf offense, massed missile fire into blobs

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Bretonnia:

>2 infantry
>1 missile infantry
>3 cavalry
>1 missile cavalry
>1 artillery

Holy shit, they are incomplete. What are they going to get added in? I think they need 3-4 more infantry options, at least.

>>164440320
I forgot to buy Attila dlcs. At least that game is piratable.

>slaneesh lives in the Elven woods

wot

>>164442363
>THE cavalry faction
>needs more infantry

>>164442363
If they stick to the army book, one unit of charge cav, one unit of melee cav, peasant archers with flaming shots/stakes, and peasant swordsmen with shields.

>Where is Krell?

No seriously CA where is he?

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Why is it so hard to mod? I just want Imperial Destroyer's new regions in Darthmod.

>Bretonnia took Marienburg
>We've been allies since the first couple of turns

REEE FUCKING SHITS

>>164442596
Who are you quoting?

>>164443187
There was a quest when I was playing wood elves, and some dude wanted to go in and try and get an artifact but it was a bad idea cause Slaneesh lives there.

>>164443564
I refused it too. Chaos corruption is bad enough when you're fighting off Beastmen.

Empire with mods or NapoopaN?
if Empire with mods, which mods?

I've played the shit out of FOTS, I still want guns but I'm sick of Japan

>>164443564
Dreaming Wood is Slaanesh's summer rape mansion. Technically it's not *in* the woods proper it's in the chaos dimension, but you can access it through Athel Loren because magic trees n shiet.

Is there any reason to go with zombies over skeletons? Besides zombies being just slightly cheaper.

>>164443564

>get this quest
>get the 20% ward save item from it

Yeah I'll take some girlcock any day of the week for that

>>164444234

both are chaff, but the looser formation of the zambies can help them a bit against artillery.

>>164444234
Skeletons can actually kill things, but zombies are superior if you just want a meatshield
If you're playing campaign you may as well just use skeletons, but in multiplayer I prefer zombies (and summoning them up)

>>164444234
Zombies are superior to raise with the raise dead spell. Their meatshield capabilities are okay, but they need leadership or they'll just disintegrate really quick.

The other consideration is that VC rush, and zombies are slower than your other units.

>>164443823
Napoopan

>>164443823
Imperial destroyer for good campaign map + new regions

Darthmod for decent battles.

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Can you recreate famous battles? I want to redo Badger Mouth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yehuling

>>164445957
kinda/not really
depends on the battle really

>>164445957

Nope, because we'll probably never see a total war engine able to take that many soldiers at once, but that would be grand. A total war: Romance of the three kingdoms game would be neat, fights would be literal sea of infantry going against one another so you'd have to use actual tactics to make things managable.

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>>164446034
My cousin got me playing pic related and I have been a Mongolian history fanatic ever since.
I would love a game where you replay their invasion of the middle east.
THis wiki is worth a fast read; its astounding
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_conquest_of_Khwarezmia

does anyone have the list of units for the tabletop armies and what the game has compared to the list?

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>own the game legitimately
>dont cheat
>played yesterday
>this shit pops up

What the fucking hell.

Thanks to some bullshit I got Total Warhammer for cheap. Its my first TW and I'm enjoying it so far but I have almost no clue what I'm doing. Is there some general path I should be taking through each campaign?
All I can do right now is work with old RTS experience. Send melee vs melee, ranged vs ranged, flank where you can, etc, but I doubt that's going to work past easy mode. Is there some trick I'm going to need to learn before I start messing around with flying and monster units?
I've only been playing dwarfs so far if that makes any difference

>>164446279

Genghis Khan did nothing wrong, and in fact he was a pretty good and honorable ruler way ahead of his time, even creating forms of animal conservations by authorizing hunting only during a certain time of the year and sought that all honor their vows of loyalty, even his mortal enemies.

>>164446584
called the police

>>164446279

M2TW: Broken Crescent mod - or just good ol' Stainless Steel if you want to play against them.

To play as Mongols, I can only recommend Eras - although I never played it.
... welp, might as well give it a shot, though.

>>164446806
Also made it illegal to piss in streams, tolerated religions and enforced that tolerance with military might.
He guarded trade routes, encouraged scholars and in general was an amazing ruler.
I honestly consider him one of the greatest rulers of all time. Ironic considering all of it started because some sheep herder stole his wife

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Are there any other significant human factions beside Bretonnia, that AREN'T the Empire, that could be added as a playable faction?

>>164446584
just called the swat team friend, they should be banging down your barricaded basement doors any second
say goodbye to /twg/

>>164446584
false positives are not that rare, raise an issue with CA over it. Though it might be a known problem.

>>164446627
First off, there are two difficulty sliders.
You only see one when starting the game, this is the campaign difficulty. This primarily affects campaign AI, Agressiveness, lack of willingness to cooperate, and public order penalties.
It is set at start.

In addition to this, battle difficulty scales with what you set your campaign AI, it gives light bonuses to enemy morale and shit on the battlefield.
A lot of people don't like this, and you can change it once the campaign has started, and playing a very hard campaign with easy battles still gets you the very hard cheevos and shit.

Just to keep in mind.

You'll see hammer and anvil repeated ad nauseum here. This is for sensible reasons. it is the be all-end all for fucking up the AI.

Rather than melee ranged cavalry designations, the primary property of a unit is how it fits into hammer and anvil really.

Missiles weaken the enemy anvil and scare off some hammer units, they also do deny enemy missiles. Artillery does the same but at extended range. The primary strength of artillery is, defending or attacking: If you have an arty advantage the enemy MUST attack you.

Then you have your hammer and your anvil.
Anvil can usually be the cheapest part of your army and hammer is often the most expensive.

Understand that being in combat and charging are very important cornerstones to the gameplay.

If you engage in melee, you are essentially using CC on the enemy unit, which leaves them wide open to be flanked. Charges give (most) units a very significant bonus in combat. With most shock cavalry the bonus is so substantial you want to charge, run out of combat and charge again.
Note that charges do use your targetting, if you issue an attack order on an enemy archer far away, and your unit gets blindsided halfway, your unit did NOT charge into combat.

>>164445734
What regions does ID add other than Warpath shit?

>>164446965
However he died, the Khan took great pains to keep his final resting place a secret. According to legend, his funeral procession slaughtered everyone they came in contact with during their journey and then repeatedly rode horses over his grave to help conceal it. The tomb is most likely on or around a Mongolian mountain called Burkhan Khaldun, but to this day its precise location is unknown.

>>164447132
John Green pls go

how do you use free company effectively?

>>164440946
I've never seen this steep map before.

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>>164440946
It's a fun one.

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>>164447325
Subutai was inarguably the greatest general of all time.
Pic related, this was what he did to the finest army in Europe

As Empire, do the Notfrench deserve to live?

>>164447250
Major army book factions, no.
Southern realms and Kislev are the only other humans really.

KANGZ are pretty human despite being undead.

>>164446627
>>164447278
pt. 2

I just read that you're playing stunties, they're a good easy entry point I suppose(especially for campaign map) but they lack varied tools and considerations other factions have.

Flying units can only get back in the air if they're away from enemy units, so really swift cavalry can pin them down indefinitely.
Overall flying units are fairly intuitive and you should have no problem understanding their role.

Monstrous units are also very intuitive, the basic assumptions of less models but splash damage is reasonable. The thing to keep in mind both against and while using large units is that missiles can shoot over the melee and hit the tall fuckers really easily. Two crossbows focus firing can almost make a giant vanish into thin air.
A not so obvious feature to monstrous units is that their mass allows them to push through units, and their splash damage works as psuedo-range sometimes.
An example of this is as VC, using basic infantry to engage, and then charging your crypt horrors through the back of your infantry into the enemy. Whereas doing the same with a second infantry unit kinda just blobs it up behind the first.

Mass is an important point as well. It mostly refers to the ability of a unit to ignore everything around it and move.
It's probably the biggest weakness of the entire stuntie faction by far, but it's only a real concern in multiplayer.

And AP damage, in SP is mostly a concern of who you're fighting.

Fighting dorfs/chaos, use handgunners. Fighting anyone else use crossbows.

That's all I can think of right now. Ask more specific questions if you have them.

>>164447381
Don't use them against anything armored to start with. They're just a unit you can kinda be mobile with and stretch their health a bit further by being out of combat. Nothing standout.

>>164447250
all the counts could be made into interesting factions i bet
i dunno know the neeeeeeeerd lore for them but im sure all of them have their sspecial snowflake nonsense

>>164442363
add to the current roster

>Questing Knights (greatweapons melee cav, armour piercing)
>Grail Pilgrims (high defence + leadership infantry, shields)
>Errant Knights (cheaper shock cav)

Lords
>Prophetess of the Lady (Wizard Lord)

Legendary Lords
>Louen Leoncouer (Franz 2.0)
>The Fay Enchantress (Wizard LL)
>The Green Knight (Ethereal LL, can use world roots).

It's not a bad roster. Perhaps they need to make a Paladin Lord and another Melee Hero to round out the Lord and Hero selection?

>>164447132
h-he also carried out a level of mass murder not seen until the age of industrailised warfare

>>164447828
They don't really have any issue with Bretonnia and they do help one another out a fair bit.
It's just religious differences that keep one another from being true partners all of the time.

>>164447312
Attila the Hun was allegedly buried inside a gold coffin inside a silver coffin inside a wooden coffin and had a river diverted over his burial site, only to have everyone involved killed after the fact.

>>164447876
The Iranians shouldnt have killed him ambassadors

>>164447250
Kislev is the biggest. The actual roster should focus on skirmishers and skirmisher cav, melee infantry and War Bear cavalry. And Ice Wizards.

Otherwise, Estalia, Tilea and the Border Princes should have their own roster, but it would be fairly similar to the Empire. Just pikes and less artillery. But they should get Dogs of War regiments of Renown so you could get crazy shit like Slayer Pirates, and Ogres along with some beefy Pike and Crossbow units

>>164447868
>world roots
You mean the UnderLady?

And Greenskins only have one melee hero so I think that's fine.

>>164447868

You are missing the Grail Reliquae I think, they have confirmed those are in. Don't paladin lords already exist? I think the other Bret dukes are those.

CA releases brets in february.
They are the same as Chaos - you get a basic roster, say, like it is right now with no special mechanic.
For 10-30 usd you can buy a unit pack.

Technically it's still free.

>>164447934
H-how did he kill them off if he was dead?

>>164448103
He left orders with his lieutenants I would imagine.

Also on the topic: Allegedly Tamlerlane's tomb foretold that if his body was disturbed, the world would tremble.
His body was discovered by the Soviets and a very short time later, Germany launched their attack on the Soviet Union.

>>164448082
Grail Pilgrims/Reliquae are the same thing, although perhaps making them separate would be a good idea.

Technically speaking, yeah, Bretonnian Lords are (almost) all Grail Knights and Paladins are hero units only, but it would nice to have a more diverse Lord selection. Not a big deal though

>>164446627
i'm pretty experienced in all total war games besides Warhammer. Warhammer is a different experience to a point from what i've heard.

Generally you want more surface area of attack than the otherside when it comes Melee fighting. If you can get 2 units to fight one unit from the same direction thats great in the short term. Your unit will eventually lose because the other side will just outlast your unit, but it allows you free up a unit that you can use to hit the 2 units in the flank or that be used to create local superiority. Clumping up units wont make the other side die any faster. The archetypal example of this is the Battle of Cannae between Rome and Carthage.

Local superiority is another important thing. Theres "global" superiority which is having the most units in the entire battle. But local superiority is having the most units in a small part of the fight. Say on the right side of your line you have 5 units and they have 3.

Global superiority makes it much easier to have local superiority, but using clever maneuvering and "pinning" the other sides troops into useless 3v1 fights(where theyre all facing the same direction) you can create local superiorities and eventually win a fight. one example of a "pinning" tactic is the battle of Dara, between the Byzantines and the Sassanids. the Byzantines used the trench to "pin" the infantry of globally superior Sassanid army. Then he used local superiority to win the fights on the flank(also he used ambushes) and gained the upper hand and won the battle.

Cavalry is great for doing both of these as well as preventing them from happening to . Keep them at the wings to fight off other cavalry and to kill off the other sides cavalry.

Also keep a small part of your force in reserve behind your main line to shore up parts of your line that are vulnerable of being broken through(this is an effective use of clumping up your troops) and to prevent flanks and local superiorities.

>>164448035
what about Araby, Nippon, and those Amazons?

>>164448082
technically the Grail reliquae is part of the grail pilgrim unit. I could see them having it as a separate unit however.

>>164447868
A peasant hero character would be neat.

Sort of like in shogun 2 you could have the heroic ashigaru.

A heroic peasant. Perhaps able to be armed with a long bow. Sort of similar to the wood elf sniper hero but not nearly as snipey. good at ranged attacks, decent in melee, but mostly about buffing peasant units.

Similar to the Bertrand (totally not robin hood) the brigand.

Doesn't really need to be melee due to paladins.


Also I hope damsels get Life and Beast lores. (I would also like light. but I know that bretonnia never did get to use light for whatever reason)

What ever happened to maximus? I can't play without his and other's combined autism helping me min max everything. What are your thoughts on night goblin warbosses? Are they worth using over an orc warboss?

>>164446806
>>164447132
Apologists are the worst. The man genocided over half the Eurasian continent seemingly because he liked killing people and raping their women. His plunder of China was so traumatic that one of the most advanced civilizations the world has ever seen literally never recovered and stayed in a state of near complete stagnation. He literally took millions of prisoners of war just to kill them in the most brutal way possible because he's a sick freak. Seriously, after the Battle of the Kalka River, he built floor boards on top of his prisoners and feasted on top of them to the sounds of their death. His trade routes that he defended did nothing but spread the bubonic plague to Europe, where even after death, the khan indirectly managed to destroy another culture for no reason. His "religious tolerance" was because he saw himself as a god higher than all the petty gods of men and thus didn't give a shit who people worshiped as long as they worshiped him in some way. People who defend Temujin are literally "but Hitler fixed the economy!" or "but Stalin advanced social justice!" tier.

>>164447793
Being a good general has literally nothing to do with being a good ruler. Temujin was a god tier general and everyone with a military background should study him however

>>164447828
Once Archaon comes if you're friendly with bretonnia, bretonnia starts sending a couple stacks to fight chaos... if the woodelfs haven't raped and murdered them all.

>>164448551
chill mate, he got the trains running on time so its all good

>>164448101
How can you keep your job if you keep leaking all this stuff for us, Darren?

>>164448426
Araby is the most significant of those by far, but still not too pertinent to many factions(at least in the psuedo-end times setting where the other races offer a threat. They're also incredibly unlikely because CA would need fairly original assets for them.

Nippon and Cathay are REALLY far away, and left very ambiguous to the audience.

Amazons are a very light bit of flavour to Lustria and are probably less relevant than even the halflings in the Empire.

>>164448551
>>164448551
By being brutal he stopped rebelions that would have killed more and stopped cities from resisting. He always offered the option to surrender.
Also Genghis wasnt responsible for the black death.

>>164448551
still a good general tho.

>>164447381
They're a good early game unit since they can do a bunch of things alright. Position them behind your main line and on a hill and they can fire into the enemy if the enemy makes a hole, and then charge in to fill the gap, or have them swing around the side aiding in fighitng off enemy skirmishers and then hitting the rear of the enemy line. in mid game they can set up flanking maneuvers or ambushes for enemy light elements. in late game they lose all effectiveness and should be replaced with professionals

>>164448426
not really touched on as far as I can tell. The Empire and Bretonnia had proper army books which is where the units come from, while Kislev and the Dogs of War (which represents all the southern nations) have had official rules released before, from where CA could develop armies.

Having said that, Araby will need to be introduced when the Tomb Kings are added so there's that, Amazons when they do the western continents (and we'll hopefully get Pirate Vampires)

>>164448695
>herp derp, if we kill everyone in the world and burn it to the ground, it won't rebel later

>>164448983
> Warnings and examples are useless

custom sieges on Attila are the absolute fuckign worst
what the fuck were they thinking

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Post your Top 5 Generals of all Time
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>>164448983
well he got what he got by right of conquest no pussyfooting around it but walking into a city choping up all the males and raping the women is not that uncommon for the time
its not just a mongol traditional pass time

>>164446627
The easiest thing to do for battles by far is to watch the small video guides on Part Elite's youtube channel, he goes into the core concepts of Total War games vs traditional RTS.

As far as Campaign goes, it really is free form & depends on your faction but just remember that diplomacy is do-able & useful, expansion is necessary & as you get stronger so will other factions.

You also want to make sure you're decently prepared for the Chaos invasions at like what turn 100?

>>164449097
>Caesar
>Belisarius
>Genghis Khan
>Patton
>Hannibal Barca

>>164449097
Karl Franz IS Prince and Emperor so he gets 2 slots at the top.
dunno bout the rest

>>164449097
>Karl
>Vlad
>Belegar
>Grombrindal
>Durthu

>>164449058
>killing everyone who could have spread the word is a warning

Kingdoms literally adopted a "do not even talk to the Mongols, just fight for your lives" policy where every able bodied male instantly rose up to try to defend themselves because everyone who encountered the horsefuckers didn't come back

>>164449178
>you can do whatever you want with a defeated enemy
>it's just their culture man
>who cares about advancements in technology or philosophy, might is right!

oy vey

>>164446965

Okay, just checked, and that should be Falcom - not Eras.
Sorry.

And, yeah, I know Mongols are awesome, no need to sell them. 'Preaching to the Choir' here.

It's just too bad Temujin's sons were such shits and failed to follow his laws - might have gone a bit better, otherwise.
Or maybe not ...

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>>164449097
Subutai
Italian man from Corsica
Karl Franz
ODA NOBUNAGA
Basil II

>>164449097
>Scipio Africanus
>Napoopan
>Agrippa
>Subutai
>Nobunaga

>>164447868
you forget the other men at arms
swordsmen i think it's still missing

>>164449315
>Two stunties
If the stunties are so good, why did they lose to gobbos and rats?

>>164446627
The core of TW battles is morale & sending your opponents fleeing the battlefield.

The most basic & important way of doing that is by clashing with them in a sort of battle line vs battle line & then smashing them from behind in a flank attack - ie. Hammer & Anvil.

With your archers how you said you do ranged vs ranged, while you might start the battle with ranged units skirmishing, what you really want to keep in mind is that shields facing in the direction of where the missiles are coming from can help block the missile fire, so hit them in the side/behind & especially target unshielded high value units like all those 2handed melee units running around waiting to be shot to shit.

>>164449403
>it's just too bad Temujin's sons were such shits and failed to follow his laws

Why do you want to live on an earth comprised solely of pastoral land anon?

>>164449097

Lee
Forrest
Longstreet
Jackson
Temujin

inb4 THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!

>>164449825
>Lee

you mean the butcher right?

>>164447290
Arabia, khazak, Indonesia,

>>164449097
>Napoleon
>Julius Ceasar
>Belisarius
>Hindenburg
>Nobunaga

>>164449917

>Robert Edward Lee
>butcher

Git outta my sight 'afore I git muh Springfild, ya Yankee shit!

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>>164449825
>top five generals of all time
>four confederates who lost their war

anon right now

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>>164449097

>Reinhard von Lohengramm
>Napoleon
>Hannibal
>Khalid ibn Walid
>Belisarius

I'm really starting to think that a lot of monster units being shit is solely because their attack animations suck ass, they're well animated yes, but what they accomplish is much worse.

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>>164448551
>>164448983
>>164449382
>>164449667

>>164450314
I'll still use monster units just because i love watching their special attacks and the explosions of gore they can cause.

nothings better than seeing elves get vaporized as a monstrous infantry unit charges into them.

>>164449097
>Napoopan Boopaparte
>William Slim
>Hannibal Barca
>Georgy Zhukov
>Oda Nobunaga

>>164450413
Its really too bad. They could at least remove a couple of the dumb ones like the giant yelling thing, or at least make the special attacks faster.

>>164406718

On for just a sec, but I am not sure how to do that. The CDIR unit priority table assigns values that seem to dictate unit quality in the AI's eyes. I made sure to model or even exceed the vanilla values and set it up so higher grade units had higher values (the same way they did in vanilla - a cataphract would have a high value while a slinger would have a low one).

Clearly that doesn't fix it. You could make it so lower quality units are lost at higher tiers, but that can lead to problems on its own too.

I'd ask AE or whatever other mods are out there how they've made the AI recruit more higher grade stuff.

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>mfw it's stabby time

>>164450512
Screaming and shouting was a giants ability. It should have more of a debuff effect when it happens however. to make it more useful.

would make it much better.

>>164450157

Got me some (You)'s though ... :D

Okay, but seriously:

Frederick the Great (4 kicking the shit out of all the major Powers of the time)
Temujin (4 the last grand stand of steppe cavalry)
Hannibal (4 being awesomer than Romans - at least for a little while)
Longstreet (4 figuring out WW1 50 years ahead)
Belisarius (4 all the shit that got done despite all the shit that went down)

>>164440326
rollin

>>164451161
>royal schythia
FUCK THAT LMAO rerollin

>>164450787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5mmFPyDK_8

>>164450314
Crypt Horrors, Treekin and Minotaurs are pretty crazy, it's just trolls and spawn that are underwhelming.

>>164450787
>last
are you stupid?

>>164451613
>>164450314

Am I the only person who likes armoured chaos trolls? They break easily but wreck shit if used properly

Why the fuck haven't welves conquered the entire setting?
Orion fucking moved to the other side of the empire to kill one stack of poopoopeepee while dorfs were getting stomped by Archaon and Big Bird, then kicked their shit in when they tried to pursue him, then went to razing Castle Drakenhof before going home.

>>164452540
They only care about Athel Loren; and Orion is just some douche

>>164440105
So how long before Karl Franz was this?

>>164452540
>Never fought with them yet
>Got dragged into a war with them once, but we ended it without any bloodshed

Are they really that bad?

>>164452540

Don't wood elves like, have a really really small populace?

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>>164446584
>reinstall steam

Anyone got that gif of the rock rolling his eyes? This is the very last fucking thing I will do to try and resolve a problem, and always the first thing people will suggest is one of the solutions.

>>164447278
can you explain hammer and nail?

>>164449097
freddy boy
napoopoo
caesar
hannibal
davout

>>164453448
yes. the AI cheats like a mother fucker and doesn't need amber. So they can confederate and pop out high tier units by turn 13. FUCKING TURN 13. They then proceed to assrape Bretonnia. And for some reason the AI is super aggressive, when the WE should really be isolationist

Medieval 3 when?

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the most annoying looking force I've ever seen, not to mention the epic late-game units in an "uprising"

>>164452924

This was immediately before Magnus the Pious, so ~250 years.

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>>164453897
Here. You engage the enemy in a frontal attack and hit them from behind causing panic.
Notice how subutai drew his opponents attention to the perceived threat and then used his cavalry to hit them like a hammer from behind

>>164454307

Taking Kraka Drak can be a pain early on, I usually let a chaos uprising destroy them.

What faction is best faction for darthmod empire ?

>>164454501
>putting your anti-flank force in a blob ready for wrapping

of course it isn't that simple, but what went wrong?

>>164454651
Spain or Ottoman Empire

>>164454501
So would you recommend like Cavalry to be the hammer?

So why did CA buff welfs anyways? They were perfectly fine before the patch and now they're overpowered.

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>>164454748
>otturdman empire

>>164454772
Yes due to.mobility and the fact a charge can cut deep. Disorder is what you want because panic is contagious and if people perceive there is no escape they will run. Cavalry is superior to infantry for that reason. Infantry is the board the nail goes in. It holds them. That's why cavalry should be uncommitted and left to keep the opponent off balance.
>>164454694
Subutai scouted the area better and had a mobility advantage

>>164454845
>So why did CA buff welfs anyways?
Because all the fucking casuals weren't able to adapt to the different playstyle although I don't feel like they play differently

Also
>muh two Beastmen stacks on turn 5 in the mini-campaign
Just idiots being too stupid to comprehend that they spawned from upgrading the Oak.

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>all the different hounds look the same in attila
bullshit, I wanted to see a wolfhound shred the shit out of an enemy

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I really love tanks.

>>164455350

DEATH IN THE SHAPE OF A PANZER BATTALION

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

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G O B L I N S

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>>164455940
daily reminder to kill gobbos

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>>164456463

So is Dorthu or however it's spelled one of the best fighters in the game? He seems pretty fucking strong but I dunno diddly about min maxing.

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>>164456539

>>164447132
>tolerated religions

kek

To an extent.

>>164450314
It really depends how you use them. They do a ton of damage on their own but will be overwhelmed.

But, if you charge them in first and then have a unit follow in behind to smash into the broken formation they both end up doing a ton of work.

>>164454972

How can you say Cavalry is superior to Infantry, when Cavalry is only conditionally good? Yes the Cav is the hammer to the infantries anvil, but without the anvil, the hammer is useless

GORKS FIST

>>164457090
archers
lone groups of non-spear infantry
retreating infantry

cmon man

>>164457090
I think maybe he means Cavalry are better for the role of Hammer than infantry? You could flank with infantry all the same but it lacks those characteristics of speed, maneuverability, shock & impact.

>>164454307

>Chaos rebels

How fucking chaotic do you have to be to rebel against chaos?

>>164441414
Vanilla S2 battles are too fast for a beginner

>>164458156
Nah s'cool.

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>>164458156
I wouldn't say that, but even so, this is a pretty decent mod that I've been using that slows it down.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=103143761

>>164448035
Every DoW unit is unique and even the "vanilla" pikemen regiments have a twist to them like having a first row of crossbowmen, Tilea would be sweet.

>>164449216
I don't get how Patton was that great, admittedly I never looked much into it because by what I read he was quite a cunt but all in all what did he do that some other american couldn't, considering how the war was going when he arrived?

>>164456619

>what if it were a

Every time.

>>164448035
>war bear cavalry
Just like the empire focuses on Gryphon flying cavalry.

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>>164458385

>>164457090
All cav will beat all inf unless the inf hides in a massive blob.

>>164454845
>Game is constantly praised for it's faction variety
>WAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!! how come this faction doesn't play like the others?! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!! BUFF PLS
Something like this happened, shitters can't git gud, even while they had all the required tools to be very capable

Only things that needed a fix were the Wildwood Rangers (which will be nerfed next patch, thank god), Archers being useless in forests, which will never be adressed and the elite archers (Deepwood and Waywatchers) being too expensive for what they do

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>>164447868

>Green Knight LL

S-T-O-P

They've already fucking announced the third Legendary Lord

It's this faggot

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I believe your generic greeting was telling me to leave the forest, wasn't it Beastman?

>>164459332

>Alberic wants to go questing but his son won't let him

>>164459312
The buff wasn't very substantial except for the fuck up with the Rangers.
>WAAAAH MY QUARRELERS ARE OUTRANGED NOW, GUESS I'LL STACK PHYSICAL RESISTANCE

So I just realized that the Vampire Lord blue skill "Children of the night" rank 2 increases the total capacity for all heros. I though it was just the vampire and not wight king/banshee/necromancer.

>>164459384
Why do elves constantly greet me as traitor when I play him?

>>164459517
Its a bug

>>164435353

Around Aberdeen

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>posting a roll chart on reddit

which one of you fags did this?

Is it just me or do flying monsters tend to miss their charges half the time. Sometimes they take of massive chunks of a hero/lord/monsters health, other times they miss and then run around and do nowhere near as much damage

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>>164460843
THIS MEANS WAR

>>164460843
>Redditors are so retarded they can't figure out how a roll chart works

>>164460843
that was me

I'm not even ashamed :)

>>164460992
They can find online dice programs I guess

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>>164460946
COME FIGHT ME by raping me like the elf whore I am!

>>164460843
Why should we care?

What mods do you guys use for Attila? After playing DeI I really cannot stand the vanilla battle speed, it's way too fast.

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>>164461193
A knight shall never dishonor himself with such an unchivalrous creature.

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I have a decision to make.

I could fight the Pics to the north, then go south and relieve Britain

or

I could fight off the Caledonians, freeing up my Britain senpaitachi, then turning towards the Picts

The thing is, I don't know if my army could take a full stack fight twice in one turn. I need advice from the /twg/ brains trust.

>>164461498
Not even The Lady?

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have fun in jail christfag

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>>164461587
I... DO YOU MISTAKE ME FOR A CHURL?!

>>164461695
Taking you for a churl would be no mistake

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>>164461747
Fill your hand, peasant. Prepare to breathe your last!

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>when the outmeme the enemies army composition

nuthin personnel... git...

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>want to download LME for nappy
>see this
why this shit gotta be so complicated

>>164462028
I would hate to see the hard way.

>>164461009
Why the hell are you using smilies when you are writing with other men, you absolute faggot.

>>164462246
Why are you so angry? :(

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>>164461564
Well I chose to sit tight. They came to me with a small (3 unit) stack with them. Sorted them out and the Caledonians are still laying siege to London

>>164462324
Ebdanians*
God all these fucking factions are the same

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I want Total War to go back to it's roots, TW R2 and onwards doesn't feel too fun for me with entirely new mechanics scheme in the overworld.

I am hoping for a TW to focus on ancient china and the warring states

>>164461238
becuz muh sikrit club
LEEEEEEE

>>164462369
>ancient china and the warring states
Yes please, that would be swell

>>164461238
Would you use something from reddit as the op?

>>164462463
If its a good meme or interesting image, yeah. In fact I have already.

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>>164462369
>>164462438

Battles that would number to the million, I don't think any computer can handle it.

They also had some pretty sweet gadgets invented.

>>164462508
What ancient battle ever got to a million men?

>>164460946
>This is Rome having a pitched battle
>"Pitched Battle" means "Please don't kill me, please forgive me".

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Whatever happened to the option to have the AI control allied armies? I'd would be nice if this could happen all at once rather than a wave of reinforcements

>>164462549
the ones the chinese would write about

Man, Kislev had it tough in the lore.

Like the finale of the Siege of Praag, where Chaos literally rained down raw chaos power onto the city, doing shit like literally fusing the people together with the city, effectively creating one big suffering glowing tumor.

>>164461193
be careful what you wish for wench

>>164462549
Battle of Chingping I believe it was called, about 500,000 on each side, though not sure how many of them were armed forces, not unusual to have hundreds of thousands of peasants accompanying as logistical support

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No Manlet, you're going down you piece of shit.

>>164462891
I'd say Sima Qian writing about Chinese shit is about as reliable as Herodotus writing about Greek shit.

>>164462804
>Wooooooooow
>It took chaos magic to kill me

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Dude what

>upgrade sarmatian cataphracts to elite sarmatian cataphracts
>lose 20 melee defense

at least I got 2 shitty precursor arrows :^)

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>>164463087
What is happening to my game dudes

>>164462501
>if it's a good meme
please leave

>>164462324
You probably would have been ok to fight the full stack to the north first then turn south and take out the other celts.
Whats your strat in Britain?

Also why are archers so shit in Attila and slingers so based?

>>164463214
Either way I killed both of them.

My strat is help Britain to control all of Britain and use them as a shield to live with, like a parasite.

Because CA hates you. And me.

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DUDE
AXES
LMAO

>>164463203
I think you'd be surprised how many popular /twg/ and 4chan memes have come from reddit newfag

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>>164462804

Praag has been rebuilt that many times just because they can't get rid of the chaos corruption afterwards, so they end up razing their own city afterwards.

>>164463427
>420KB
D U D E

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I hope no more fantastical themes for Total War. I really dislike Warhammer

>>164462028
firstly because europoors are retarded and insist on language options and secondly NTW only works with narrow campaigns ala the Napoleon story mode.

>>164463793

Warhammer is the only fantasy franchise worthy of a Total War game anyways.

>>164462549
Battles in the millions were fairly common during the Mongol invasions and yuan dynasty like the battle of samarkand.

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>tfw no V:TW yet

>>164462676
You tick off >control large army you fag

>>164463448
Dude looks like an end-game WoW character

post med 2 screen shots

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>>164464242

>>164463941
What's this from?

>>164460843
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5lqwjy/since_im_at_it_already_for_everyone_who_cant/
they don't understand dubs

>>164464203
>tfw warcraft was originally intended to be a warhammer game but they didn't get the licensing
>wow could have been world of warhammer

>>164464612
Yes and then Gw would nt have gone the same way, stop wishing for the past to change as I like it how it is so stop wishing for change

>>164448082
>>164447868
>>164459332
So the Enchantress is a Wizard, Louen is a grail knight and Alberic is not a grail knight, giving each lord unique abilities.

>>164463441
>>164462384
>4chan is reddit XD you newfig!

Holy cancer, fuck off. It's clear now why this general explodes in bitching everytime Trump is mentioned, you cancerous rS4P people come here because your website is too shit.

>>164463087
You ruined everything

>>164462028
What campaign year for LME is the best?
>>164465098
You're just as fucking retarded as they are, dumbass.

>>164465098
>he doesn't want the sites to overlap so that /twg/ can then screw reddit over in online battles like /wgg/ did

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The epic AFRICAN KANG showdown

>>164440105
Good job Ottilia, very well done.

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Working on a skulltakerz overhaul mod but I can't find any good lore sources on savage orcs since they are so minor. Also I haven't played tabeletop since 2003.
Would it be lore friendly to let them recruit all the forest goblin units?

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>>164465284
someone watched too much 300 it seems

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>>164447793
>finest army in Europe
>this is what Hungarians actually believe

>>164465098
Reddit is the biggest Trump fanclub on the internet retard. To like Trump is to be a redditor.

>>164465235
>You're just as retarded XDDD
>I'm not reddit I swear

No, fuck off redditor

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Whew
Fuck Caledonia

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>>164465372

>>164465405
>romania is a country
>this is what romanians actually believe

>>164465414
>To like Trump is to be a redditor.
This is like when leftists say to like trump is to be alt-right

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>>164464242
Taken somewhere around '08/09.

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>>164465487
I pressed end battle right after the screenshot. He didn't die

>>164465325
Has this woman ever eaten anything in her life? Jesus fuck

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>>164465448
>mum! look! i called him reddit!!
>do you love me now mum!?

>>164465414
Classic redditard posting a lose-lose scenario

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>>164465570
I nuked 2 armies in the south. They don't want to fight me. God damn, I wish I had night battles.

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>you will never build a Prussian doomstack fleet and sink the British navy

>>164465576
Yes.

>>164465521
Honest question, whom do Hungarians hate the most?
Turks, Romanians or Austrians/Germans?

>>164465690
You can already do that in both Empire and Napoopan.

>>164465773
Very easily turks no competition at all.
Romanians aren't relevant enough to be hated. They just hate the powers that forced them to cede land to Romania.
Austrians at least saved them from the Turks the first time around, and they were pretty loyal to the German cause recently.

>>164465773
I guess Ottomans, than the Austrians back in 1848 and now Turks.

>>164465824
But not in Victoria...

Is napoleon not meant to have border lines on the campaign map?
wtf

>>164465824
He's talking to me. I will never do that.
I've played enough Napoopan and I'll never touch Empire ever again.

>>164465835
Seperating Ottomans and Turks
;^)

>>164465854
You're not supposed to fight England as Prussia in Victoria.
You're supposed to unite Germany and jizz you grey load all over Europe and Russia.

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>>164465969
>fighting a land war in russia

>>164465903
well I'm also separating between dog shit and horse shit

>>164464309
a movie

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yall nigs wanna tell me how a faction with one settlement can maintain a stack and a half?

>>164466032
Russia is an absolute pushover in Victoria though.

>>164465630
>>164465529
>>>/reddit/

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>>164466129
Also wondering that.

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Question about Attila.

When playing as WRE, what territory do you want to defend at all costs, besides the African plains?

In my current campaign I'm making a point of defending Rome and Carthago at all costs, but as I start to lose territory in Germany I'm getting worried I won't be able to defend Italia.

I already know Britannia is mostly a lost cause, but with a bit of luck and skill I still haven't lost a province in turn 20. Should I start thinking of developing and trying to hold it more dearly, or is the worst still to come?

>>164463941
Looks like a movie about the Russo-Japanese War.

>>164466230
You can hold everything if you play it right. You're still almost too big to fall.
Just give it your best shots, play your defeats and see how well you go.

>>164466230
There are gold mines in spain which are, well, gold mines for cash. Hold on to them at all costs.

>>164465325
I don't think anybody will call you off for including forest goblins with savage orcs

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>>164466230
>what territory do you want to defend at all costs
All of them.
>>164464309
>google Russo-Japanese war movie
>look at list
>click most recent
>search in youtube
>found it
It's a tv series called "Sakano ue no kumo".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erk83OXMvYo

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>>164466348
Thanks

>want to play S2/FOTS with some sort of overhaul mod
TROM3, Sekigahara, or Land of The Rising Sun (FOTS)?
shits hard to decide ayo

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nth for #grace #2017

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>>164465325
>>164466602
Please keep posting these.

>>164465284
But they're jews not africans

>>164465478
>losing that much cav
WEW LAD

>>164442363
>horsefuckers that think being on foot is the world's biggest disgrace
>UH YEAH I THINK THEY NEED LIKE 4 MORE INFANTRY CHOICES AT THE ABSOLUTE BARE MINIMUM

were you oxygen deprived as a child

>>164459332
>no Green Knight
Fucking why?

>>164465284
What was that racist af mod someone made for Trigger Warning: Attila that had some over-the-top fantasy element to it?

>>164455350

Isn't there only like eight of those in the whole empire according to fluff?

>>164466129
Because you have a basic income of 2k, so they'll only have like 50 income left

>>164466845
I lost a lot of everything mang

>>164466901
they've confirmed he'll be in, just not as an LL

>>164466901

CA is being pretty cryptic about the Green Knight

He's in the promotional art they put out, and when people on Plebbit were complaining about him not being included Darren responded with "Who says he isn't in there"

>>164466974
Horses are worth more than anything, you should have learned this by now
>>164467030
He's a legendary hero

>>164467076

>He's a legendary hero

Source: Your asshole

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How disappointed do you think Vlad is in Manny?

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>Bretonnia released in Feb
>Still won't be able to crusade on Araby

>>164466690
zoom and enhance those computer screens, lets have a look at thos Tomb Kings

>>164467002
>>164467030
I just hope he won't be another grombrindal, because I'm not taking a boat to fucking Helsinki of all places to get the fucking code.

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>>164466702

>>164467337

Estonian?

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>>164467321

>>164467452
t. guy who doesn't know what this meme means

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>>164466602
What's the story behind these?

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>>164466702
>>164467353
Belgium

Well I've pacified tutorial island. Everyone is either dead, driven off or a tribute state. My objectives are just to "survive" so do I just keep smashing end turn until I win?

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DOWN DOWN TO GOBLIN TOWN DOWN DOWN TO GOBLIN TOWN DOWN

>>164467534
miss euorpe
winner was bearded 3 years ago

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>>164467534
It's Miss Universe National Costumes 2015.

Bolivia

>>164467617

>winner was bearded 3 years ago

Wasn't that the Eurovision Song Contest?

Or did the crossdresser win Miss Europe too?

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postin and rollin

re-rollin on Empire (just finished) or beasties and welves because I don't have em

>>164467645
Oh cool thanks
So what was Belgium thinking >>164467554 here?
>>164467664
Seconding this.
I only remember him winning ESC.

>>164467701
based Karl, I just finished a campaign with you. Re-rollin

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ah yes the infamous roman huddle strategy

>>164467758
screw you Tzeentch, re-rollin again

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>>164467715
Belgium is a non-country so what is there to think about?

Indonesia

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>>164467859
Ireland