/twg/ - Total War General

>page 6
>new thread

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C H O S E N
and a couple of chaos warriors

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>manny

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3rd for the most ebin troops in the entire series

Hey, I fixed my mod. You can build the order chapterhouse now.
It's not showing it's name for some reason though.

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>>164376676
>not Chosen
baka desu senpai

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>>164376539
>ROLLAN!

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>>164376764
>total war shitpicker

>>164376676
Why do they wear the mask?

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>>164376803
>disregarding Chosen
It's like you want to play total wars incorrectly

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>mfw it's stabby time

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>>164376764

More like Chosen piece of shit

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>>164376882
>total war dickpicker

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>>164376539
______B
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C H O S E N
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>Thought chaos was the endgame enemy to watch out for
>In reality it's the fucking elves.
Franz and Gelt are too busy dealing with the Vampire Counts. What kind of army comp do i need to fend off Wood Elves in case they do decide to cross the mountains?

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>>164376937
>>164376939
>low test

>>164376539
>[Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

>>164377049
Crossbows, greatswords and demys with halbeards

>>164376840
So people care who they are.

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>>164377108

>newfags

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>>164377108
>hating on based [Embed]s

>>164377360
>implying

>>164377108

[Embed] is a vintage meme you plebian

>>164377360
>>164377597
>>164377784
Do you have autism?

>>164376539
>>164376906
>not only ultra, I play ulta + large sized units

>I don't get why you would play smaller battles in a MASSIVE WAR GAME, why do you ruin you inmmersion senpai?
Link ?

>some faggot forgets to clean up his [Embed]s because he really wants to make a new thread
>gets called out
>tries to cover it up with memes and this catches on
I love memes.

>>164377876

Do you?

>>164377876
>>164378204
I'm pretty sure the submit button gives you autism.

>>164378197
Saying things are a meme is a meme desu

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Post Antiochus bullying

Pls add me on stim.

Total War: Anime when?

>>164378197
I think you're a few years too late

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>lay siege to Middenheim
>tfw only get a walled city rather than a tower Minas Tirith style fortress city

I should have seen that coming shouldn't I?

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Reminder that the new TW game should be announced in ~3 months

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>Grombrindal not necessarily out January according to Grace.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5lfu7v/will_grombrindal_dlc_unlock_for_everyone_after/dbvg95b/

>Old Friend is a Legendary Lord according to Darren the Reddit post has been removed though.

Gonna call it, Old World Edition is a capstone release for the game. All of the FDLC will be released at the same time and they'll announce the sequel along with the pre-ord- I mean EARLY ADOPTER BONUS. No more paid DLC for the first game.

>>164376676
>wanting to be Jewish sandniggers that get raped by LITERAL niggers
How cucked can a man be

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>>164379183
>Old Friend is a Legendary Lord according to Darren the Reddit post has been removed though

Fucking Darren

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>>164379183
I can't wait to play jurassic park, dino fury edition.
I mean dinos riding rinos... I mena come on how lizardmen are not the most loved Warhammer faction?

>>164379153
>new TW game announced in ~3 months
keep dreaming, we'll maybe get an announcement next year

>>164379153
A you mean a TW:WH expansion? Neat!

>>164379452
All new standalone game were announced ~12 months after a game was released. Why hould it be different now?

>>164379183
>No more paid DLC for the first game.
I can absolutely see that happen tbqh.
It's probably "only" 5-6 months until the next game

>>164379509
When you're talking about the Warhammer expansion/game then you're surely right, but the next historical title? Never ever gonna be that early

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>GOBBOS

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This would be the only correct choice for the old friend

>>164379526
>5-6
8-9.

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Sorry if this has been asked 100 times but is Warhammer worth getting as a fan of totalwar but not Warhammer? Thinking of grabbing it for $45 dollerydoos before the steam sale ends in a few hours.

>>164376539

How can I stop using the red skills for Karl Franz /twg/?

Every campaing I go straight for the reddies, instead of leveling his fighting capabilites, I just can't resist it.

>no end times mod update
>no 1212 release
>no AE release
>no 2.3 EB II

>>164380070
Its total war in a fantasy setting

>>164379183
>All of the FDLC will be released at the same time
but we already know that

>>164380070
It's a technical improvement in many ways, but the campaign map is seriously lacking in depth and challenge

I was honestly surprised by how challenging the management in Attila was when I went back

>>164380070
It basically comes down to how important is it for you to have every minor campaign feature of past total wars?

In terms of battle features, faction diversity, diplomacy etc everything has improved and most people seem to be enjoying it a lot more than they expected.

I haven't had this much fun playing a strategy game since Rome 1 & I think with all the free & paid content to come it's just going to get better. inb4 shill

>>164379889


TO THE DEATH!

>>164376789
Roll.

>>164380070
Yes. Economics is a bit dull, but its made up for by faction diversity and new features like Lords/Heroes and Magic

>>164380350
Don't you find the campaign more challenging with how strong a lot of the factions get throughout?

I mean, Chaos invasions, coupled with Orc & Beastmen raids, OP Wood Elves, factions confederating into larger ones, all with armies that aren't just 20 stacks of spearmen.

>>164380530

>armies that aren't just 20 stacks of spearmen

Dont kid yourself, we now get 20 stacks of Pistoliers and other stupid shit instead

Not to mention the disappointing watered down Chaos invasions

>>164380349

I think he means all the unreleased FDLC will come out at the same time. So Grombrindal, Bretonnia, VC LL and Empire LL come out at the same time.

>>164380743
>Not to mention the disappointing watered down Chaos invasions
only started playing recently. Did they get nerfed or something?

>>164379183
>>164379526
>no more DLC for game 1
>even though they still need to add Chaos Dwarfs, Ogres and Tomb Kangz to the map

OH BOY ARE YOU GUYS READY FOR THOSE RACES TO BE NOT-DLC? ONLY 30 DOLLARS FOR THE "LAND OF NEHEKHARA" EXPANSION PACK WHICH ADDS NAGASH WHO CAN CONFEDERATE BOTH THE TOMB KINGS AND VAMPIRES AND BRING ABOUT THE "END TIMES"

AND OF COURSE ANOTHER 30 DOLLARS FOR THE "LEGION OF AZGORH" EXPANSION THAT ADDS THE TAMURKHAN MINI-CAMPAIGN AND ANOTHER 30 DOLLARS FOR THE "GOLD OF THAT ONE FAT OGRE KING" EXPANSION

THEY'RE NOT DLC, THEY'RE MAP EXPANSION PACKS- SO IT'S OKAY IF WE CHARGE YOU EVEN MORE FOR THE LEGENDARY LORD PACKS WE RELEASE FOR THEM LATER ON.

>>164381275

Thats been the plan for a while now. Don't get mad because of your own ignorance.

>>164381275
I don't care anymore. CA can have my money if they make this for me.

So where would you like the map to expand to first? South, East or West? Personally, I'd prefer South or East. Greenskin and Dwarf campaigns are so boring that adding either Kangz, Ogres or Chaos Manlets would help a lot with the monotony of their campaigns. Plus, orcs havin a skrap with the ogres would be fun and fixing some grudges with the chaos dwarfs would be cool.

I hope they don't continue with their plan to add the western continent first. Skaven would be preferable, imo. Should make the current map more fun before adding another one.

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I should be studying right now...

>>164381780
Same, but i think it will be west to add iconic factions like HE, DE and Lizards

>>164381275
>all those capital letters

your parents should have beat you more growing up

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>>164381897

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>>164379975

Empire: March 3, 2009
Napoleon: February 25, 2010
>11 Months, 22 Days

Napoleon Announcement: August 19, 2009
>6 Months, 6 Days

Shogun 2: March 15, 2011
FoTS: March 23, 2012
>1 Year, 8 Days

FoTS Announcement: November 28, 2011
>3 Months, 24 Days

Rome 2: September 2, 2013
Attila: February 17, 2015*
>1 Year, 5 Months

Attila Announcement: September 25, 2014
>4 Months, 23 Days

Average release after base game: 1 Year, 1 Month, 26 Days*
Average release after announcement: 4 Months, 28 Days

*Attila's development was slowed by some months because of Rome 2's horrendous launch and skews the average slightly.

6-7 months is more likely, with an announcement in February/March.

>>164381275
Apart from that's the 2nd expansion you doofus

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>>164381275

>map expansions

Like the Wood Elves DLC that cost $30 right? Oh wait. This community is filled with such histrionic babies.

>>164382276

even june-july feels like a long time, especially with no new content in the interim

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>>164382213

>>164382412

DURR ITS NOT THE SAME BECAUSE [FRANTICALLY MOVES GOAL POSTS]

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>>164382542

>>164381275
OY, WUT DA ZOG DID YOU JUS' SAY ABOUT ME, YA STUPID GIT? I'LL 'AVE YOU KNOW I GRADUATID TOP A' MY CLASS IN DA ORK KOMMANDOS, 'N I'VE BEEN IN A BUNCHA SECRIT RAIDZ ON DEM FILFIE 'UMIES, 'N I HAS OVER 300 A DEIR TEEF TA PROVE IT. I'M TRAINED IN THE ART A' STEALF 'N I'M DA BEST AT DAKKA OUTTA ALL DA ORKZ. YOU AIN'T NOTHIN' TO ME BUT JUSS ANOTHER CAN T'SCRAP. I'LL WIPE YA DA ZOG OUT, A DUFF THE LIKES A' WHICH AIN'T NO WUNZ SEEN SINCE DA WARBOSS, YA LIST'NIN'? YA THINKS YOU CAN GET AWAY WIV CALLIN' ME A GROT IN FRONT'A DA WHOLE WAAAAH? FINK AGAIN, SKUM. AS WE YAP OUR GOBS, I'M CALLIN' ALL MY INFILTRA'A'S ACROSS ALL A' ORKDOM 'N DEY'S 'UNTIN' YA RIGHT NOW, SO YOU BESS' PREPARE FOR DA STORM, GIT. DA STORMBOYZ'LL RID YA UH' DAT PUNY LI' L FING YOU CALL A LIFE. YOU'S AS GOOD AS DEAD, YA GROT. I'Z EVERYWHERE 'N EVERYTIME ALL AT ONCE, 'N I'Z CAN KILL YA 700 TIMES WIFOUT EVEN USIN' A SHOOTA. NOT ONLY DAT, BUT I CAN GET ALL THE STIKKBOMBS AN' DAKKA I WANT AND BLOW YOUR TINY 'EAD INTO SO MANY BITS YOU WON' EVEN 'AVE DA CHANCE TA MEET GORK AN' MORK WHEN I'M THROU WIF' YOU. IT'Z A SHAME YOU 'AD NO IDEA THE AMOUNT OF WAAAAGH YOUR SNOTTY GOB-FLAPPIN' WUZ GONNA GET YOU INTO, YOU'DA CUT YOUR TONGUE OUT INSTEAD! BUT YOU DI'N'T, AN' YOU'S FIXIN TA PAY THE PRICE WIF MORE DEN JUS' YER STUPID TEEF. I'LL SHOOT YA SO 'ARD YOU'LL DROWN IN DAKKA. YOU'S AS GOOD AS DEAD.

>>164382276
You keep posting this without realizing that the scope of these expansions is different.

>>164381275
some might just be race packs.
also
>THEY'RE MAP EXPANSION PACKS
you mean that thing that has been confirmed as free?

>>164382617
>ork

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The courageous dwarfs facing Grimgor

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>>164382591
Does warhammer have navel battles? I like navel battles

>>164382618

Care to elaborate?

At what point would migrating as slavs be worth it?

What's more cozy that conquering your half of the world, cutting all ties to every other faction and watching the world dissolve for another four hundred turns or so? Little, I'd wager.

How do I deal with immigration as WRE? I'm about 40 turns in and have fixed my shitty economy, sanitation and food shortages, secured my borders without losing much except for pannonia and dalmatia and some shithole in the desert, have btfo'd some barbarian shits and rebels and basically managed to stipulate peace treaties with everyone, right now I'm reconquering Britain and Ireland with my best army led by my 7 stars general whom I succesfully managed to marry to one of my daughters, public order is basically under control and I'm strongly boosting latin christianity along all of my empire, my only concern is the ever rising immigration, I can't really rise taxes because that would fuck my hard earned PO up, are there other ways?

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>>164382814

>>164382995
never, slavs don't migrate, they should always be squatting

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>>164383202

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>>164382814
unfortunately no, even the nakedest of them hide their navels

also no naval battles, rumor is that they don't have the license for dreadfleet

So i'm confused... I know the next Total War is going to be an expansion to Warhammer but what exactly will it include? I mean, it has to be equal to a full fledged game...

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>>164383351
>rumor

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>>164383281

>>164383351
>no navel battles
disappoint

>>164382936
Take FoTS for example. It's one new campaign and, what, one and a half of a new faction?
New World expansion is supposed to have 4 factions, new landmass, a new campaign AND an integration into the Grand Campaign. That last bit is currently killing CA.
It's like comparing Grim Grave to Shit Elves.

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>>164383371
See everything on the western half of the map that isn't in already? Probably all of that, including lizardmen, High Elves, Dark Elves, and skaven as the base races

>>164383371
new continent or map as big as the old world with 4 races plus one preorder dlc halfassed race would be exactly what we got with warhammer at the start

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>>164383421

>>164383404
has it been confirmed by CA that they can't do naval battles because of licensing issues? last I heard it was all speculation and it was just as likely they removed it because they didn't have enough Charlemagnes

Are there any mods to change the projectile trails in Attila?
I know you can disable them, but I'd like to have them, just a bit less obvious.

>>164383371

>but what exactly will it include?

We don't know exact.

In fact we don't even know generally

In fact we literally don't know anything at all, whatsoever.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is speculating and/or talking out of their ass. We have ZERO actual information.

>>164383573
I believe there was an interview where they were asked if they had plans to implement naval battles using the dreadfleet ip and they said no, which could mean either no naval battles or if they do implement them they won't use the dreadfleet stuff

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>3(THREE) months since September 30th 2016
>AE STILL NOT RELEASED

>>164383371
>>164383712
>We have ZERO actual information.

This is literally not true.

We know it will have it's own campaign map separate from the big connected grand campaign map.
We know it now will include 4 races,
We know it's no longer an expansion but a "sequel" which likely just means it's $60 instead of $45.
We know the scope has increased because of the huge success of the game and it's DLC.

All of this has been confirmed by CA on various platforms over the last month.

Beyond that everything else is unknown. Safe assumptions are that High Elves, Dark Elves, Lizardmen and Skaven will be the featured base races. Another safe assumption is they intend on revealing it soon, within the next few months.

lads how do I go about capturing the post battle screens before they fade away? Spamming f12 and getting dark pics is getting old, and I want to share my ebin battle results.

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>>164383421
>AI's clusterfuck clumps of troops compared to an actual battleline

Why didn't the Wood Elf DLC come with Regiments of Renown? Are they seriously going to not give DLC factions RoR?

>>164382814
It's naval you git. They don't have them because it was already such a risk

>>164384041
They'll come """"""for free""""""

>>164383705
Yep it's on most 'top atilla mods for immersion' mods

>>164383762

>wanting 85 types of hastati
>64 types of velites
>117 types of principes
>98 types of equites
>14,756 types of the other early Roman units

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>platinum tier
where were you when total war became mainstream?
is this the beginning of the end, or the the start of a golden age?

>>164384041
They will most probably come with Bretonia update or Expansion launch.

>>164384364
Great because lots of money for CA to do things properly.
Bad because lots of plebs who can't into the game and complain that it's too hard (see Wood Elves)

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>>164383528

>>164384491
To be fair, the wildwood rangers were fucking trash.

>>164384041

I just wish there was a way to remove RoR

I fucking hate them

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POST CARPETS!

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>>164384502

>>164384573
Yeah, not everything was perfect but now they're so fucking op

>>164380070
It is certainly not as challenging on the campaign map, but if you can get into the factions the battles can be super fun. Each faction is basically like an entire cultures playstyle in Rome 2 and Attila, yet even more different in some cases considering how samey some cultures could feel in those games.

>>164384261
Couldn't really find it without there being any other changes to the arrows.

>>164384671
They've confirmed that they were overtuned. They'll probably be taken back down slightly.

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>>164384619

>>164384289
>not wanting that
Smh

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>Finally have a campaign where I manage to get on Kislev's good side and even save the from the edge of disaster during the Chaos invasion
>Have to attack them if I wanna finish Volkmar's first questline

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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>>164384761

>>164384791
>wanting that
>no count on the triarii variations

>>164384903
>He doesn't want to differentiate between Eqvites Consvlares and Eqvites Romani
Stay pleb tier

>>164380070
It's currently cheaper to get oustide of steam

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>>164384903
Would you use these old fuckers?

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>>164384875

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>tfw they have basically no income but they can still support 3-4 doomstacks because the AI is a cheating whore

Why do people praise Shogun 2's campaign again? Don't get me wrong, I love the game. But most of the provinces are useless to you. Building them up would cost too much food, so they just sit there and take up space.

How is this better than Warhammer? In Warhammer, every territory gives you interesting choices. Do you want giants or boars? Shit like that. It's much more interesting than Shogun 2. I don't understand the praise for Shogun and the hate for Warhammer. Is it just butthurt history fags?

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>>164385446
>Military alliance with Karak Norn
>HE DOESN'T KNOW

>>164385376

what is this from

>>164385529
In my defence, the WE end up being genocidal cunts regardless of who I do or don't ally with. They're just cunts

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>>164385463

>>164383950
anyone?

>>164385463
Personally, I like it. A lot of thought goes into which provinces are upgrade to do what, and in what way, and you've got to take into account builds effects on your entire empire.

that, and the nature of the map makes for fun strategy, more effective AI and less chasing armies all over the world

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>>164385428

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>>164385562
Dominions 4. There's a general right here.

http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/
You can check out the units here.

Here's what the Marian Reforms of dominions 4 does to those triarii. Not exactly, I'm being dramatic

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>>164385742

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Rate my faction leader lads. Thinking of renaming a city after him when he inevitably passes, so I need ideas for names

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>>164385857

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>>164377108

>>164385684
You need some third-party stuff, e.g. nvidia has Shadowplay.
Spamming F12 can lead to a good screenshot, you have to be lucky though

>>164385951

Attacity

>>164379153
If I roll Rome II I'm playing Europa Barbarorum instead.

>>164385649
Not even bait, I'm serious. I love Shogun 2, I think it's probably overall the best constructed Total War. But the campaign is simpler and has less depth than Warhammer. Much less interesting choices on building your territory.

Campaign depth:
>religion
Warhammer has factions with locked religions, but chaos/vampiric corruption is a pretty close mechanic
>map
Shogun 2 is better, but Warhammer's map is alright
>building territory
Warhammer wins this hands down for reasons stated above
>agents
Warhammer has a slight edge here because you can directly use your heroes in the battles, which adds another choice
>end game
Both have interesting end games with realm divide in Shogun and Chaos rapestacks in Warhammer
>diplomacy and trade
Warhammer has much improved dipolmatic AI

I just don't get the 'Warhammer's campaign is dumbed down' complaint I hear a lot. Compared to what? Maybe Attila or Rome 2, which I admittedly haven't played much yet. But not compared to Shogun 2 or Medieval 2.

>>164379153
roll but gonna play warhams anyway

>>164386167
>Great because lots of money for CA to do things properly.
>for CA to do things properly.
Anon please

>>164386247
meant for>>164384491

>>164381275
>Chaos Dorfs
>Ogres
I have a feeling these guys aren't getting armies.

I'd be happy for now if we could play as other Empire counties.

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>>164385964
>tfw years' worth of empire screenshots got accidentally deleted
>tfw year of our Lord 2017 and still no empire 2

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

>>164386247
Epic

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>>164386467
>dem textures

WHEN I GETZ THERE, GONNA ________

>>164386214
>Warhammer Campaign is dumbed down

The only reason I think people can say this is that about half the factions are defacto locked out from any sort of diplomacy (Or more, depending which faction). There's no fertility or hygiene to take care of either, which is honestly a good thing because that just meant you had to babysit settlements even more in Rome2/Attila.

Furthermore, you can't go around raiding assets like farms and docks like you could in Shogun2.

>>164384823
Instant Quest Battles mod, my man.

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DOWN DOWN TO GOBLIN TOWN DOWN DOWN TO GOBLIN TOWN DOWN

>>164386214
Alright, I just assumed bait from the last few words of the post.

Most of your points are true, but their value in your eyes and my eyes differ quite a bit.

They're different games entirely. Shogun 2 is tight and polished, Warhammer is a ton more variation.

But I would say

>Do you want giants or boars?
Still isn't very engaging, and is more just a consequence of the game's differences.

>>164386810
fertility and hygiene always annoyed the fuck out of me.

I really like the concept of their inclusion but their final impact on playing the game is literally just a bland tax(building the right buildings, taking up slots), or else you get fucked.

>>164385376

Yes, in the third Line, you pleb.

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Poor little Celts

Is anyone actually liking the mechanic of amber for WE? I feel it's far too restricting when it needs to be used not only for buildings and research, but also units. I haven't even used any of the high end amber-requiring units besides the ones you get.

>>164387020
Would going to the triarii have the same meaning if every last one of them would be guaranteed to be older than 55 and probably suffering from a ton of physical ailment?

>>164387106

I like it when you have to pick and choose carefully what you want but when it becomes restrictive later on when it comes to units and oak upgrades it's more of an annoying than anything.

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Why no epic boar mount for welfs?

>>164385951
Attenopoli

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>>164384823
Why have you not saved the halflings of the Moot from their vampire overlords?

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>>164386421
WHY do people keep saying this?

The map outline already extends into the Dark Lands and there are actual unique Chaos Dwarf models in the base game. Give me one good reason why those two races are unlikely to be included. You Hashut-hater.

>>164386993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTDa-vG2MQ

>>164386810
>The only reason I think people can say this is that about half the factions are defacto locked out from any sort of diplomacy

And yet it's more flexible than WH fans would like, with Greenskins sometimes calling a Dwarf Faction into war with another Dwarf faction, which is the ultimate haram in fluff.

>>164387774
now compare it to peter jackson's version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNXRnMj02To

>>164385376

Total War: Dominions when?

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threadly reminder

>>164386214

If I have any complaint about TWW's campaign its how public order seems so meaningless. It offers no boon and the downside is often too predictable and exploitable. But this is also a complaint I have in general with how linear PO works in TW. I wish I knew how to mod this sort of thing but I'd like to change it to be a bit more dynamic, rewarding and sometimes punishing.

PO has two categories, provincial and settlement. Provincial PO is a flat increase or decrease applied at the settlement level. Example: Karl Franz is in Reikland (not in a settlement just within the borders) this provides +10 across all settlements within Reikland. Eilhart is at -20 PO but with Franz in the area it's augmented to -10. Provincial PO affected by edicts, technology, troop presence, heroes and military actions.

PO Effect Tiers (applied at the settlement level)
+91 - +100: Large increase to income, replenishment, religious conversion, reduction in recruitment costs (local) and an additional local recruitment slot.
+71 - +90: Moderate increase to income, replenishment, religious conversion.
+21 - +70: Small increase to income, replenishment, religious conversion.
+20 - -30: Nothing
-31 - 50: Small warbands (3-7 units) of leaderless low tier infantry will spawn near disaffected settlements and raid the region.
-51 - 70: Warband size increase up to 12 units, now with low tier missile infantry, will continue to raid.
-71 - 90: Warbands size increase up to 18 units, with cavalry now and a hero unit, the AI will continue to raid and try to ambush you if possible.
-91 - 100: Stacks now lead by rank 10 generals, have access to artillery and will attempt to siege or capture their spawning settlement. Rebel AI will now continue to try and instill rebellions in other settlements. At -100 PO will begin to drag down adjacent provinces by a small amount.

>>164388302
>threadly reminder
>first time posting

>>164388363
That's not his first time mate. although he does miss a few threads.

>>164388341

Just to be clear only 1 stack can spawn from a settlement. And if you destroy the warbands you'll get a flat +# PO increase for X number of turns. But if you let it go it'll snowball out of control, kind of like actual rebellions.

>>164388483
>threadly reminder
>misses a few threads

I haven't been to /twg/ for about 6 weeks

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Will there ever be an end to war guys?

>>164388520
It's probably better for your health.

>>164388295
Soon.

>>164387764
Don't worry. It's absolutely absurd to assume that we won't be getting ogres. They're an important race.

>>164388537

Hopefully never.

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>one of the two biggest steam sales of the year

>no dlc discount, only 25% off base game

How do we make Total Warhammer great again?

>>164388625

>They're an important race.

Gonna need to explain that one to me, my dude

>>164388636
edgy

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Oh hey we finally carpeted the entire village

>>164388880
They interact with a lot of factions that otherwise don't have that much to interact with, they're very mercenary and spread very far, and they offer a pretty unique and fun roster that the game would sorely suffer were it missing.

Is all I can come up with. It's all true but it still doesn't matter much. The main point of my post was pointedly ignoring the Chaos Stunties is all.

>>164387186

Going to the Trarii usually meant fighting to the last man

>>164388742
By readding all the depth attila had

>>164388742
>people still whining about this

How much of a discount should a game that's barely 7 months old that has sold extremely well be discounted for exactly o' master of business?

>>164386247
>>164386345
The least thing we can do is hope although it's pointless, you're right ;_;

>>164389186

Go away, Sega

Shouldn't you be making shitty Sonic the Edgehog games?

>>164389269
Sega is just acquiring good PC gaymen studios.
pretty good idea desu, while Nintendo and Sony battle it out for manchildren.

>>164389186
Dude you'll always have someone complaining about the price of something until you give it away to them for free. Then they'll complaining about how little free stuff they get.

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>Honour

>Khorne

Wait what

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>tfw not gathering Wyrdstone in Mordheim

>>164389404

Chaos Gods have a positive and negative Trait.

Khorne's two traits are war and honour

>>164389143
Yeah I know, but it also had the connotation of the last man being the best.
Whereas here the last man is probably the worst.

>>164389507
>all those buckles and straps

Who fucking designed this shit?

>>164389635

>are

Were

Khorne got retconned into the god of slaughter ages ago

Looks like Creative Assembly is rolling that back

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You're at a bretonnian banquet and this guy slaps your wife's, the host's wife's, the host's and basically everyone's ass.

What do?

>>164389736
Does he slap my ass?

>>164389736
I heavily berate my wife in public for being in the way of the other guests while I make a mental note that I'll have to find a younger one with a smaller ass

>>164389736

Slap his ass once for every ass he has slapped

It's only fair

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>>164389635

You're implying that war or honour is a negative trait, Anon.

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>>164389736
Gather the finest lances in Bretonnia and go quest all over his undead ass.

>>164389736
call King Louen on his pimpogriff to show codpiece man over here who's boss in Fair Bretonnia

>>164389736
>No mount

Cycle charge.

Divide et Impera added a Public Order Penalty for navies if they dock with a town because of Shore Leave.

I don't know if this is awesome or stupid.

>>164390034
It's autistic, and it doesn't improve the gameplay

>>164390034

That's pretty funny. I like it.

Are you enjoying DeI? I couldn't really get into it. I'm a bit of a romaboo and couldn't really be fucked starting as them with all the towns they get.

>>164390135
I just started it for the first time now in about one year, I'm gonna post some screenies and share my EPIC ROMAN CAMPAIGN (GONE SEXUAL) with you all.

>>164390135
Man fuck big starts.

>Love Seleucid roster the most by far
>Have an unnatural fixation with the city of Antioch
>simply can't play as them because I'm immediately bored

>Grab 10% campaign movement first level up.
>Random marauding orc fuckwits #348 still manage to move more than me every single time, dancing circles around me.

This is so fucking infuriating.

>>164390484

Just get the mod that disables forced march and the mod that grants 10% movement speed in friendly territory.

I fucking hate forced march. Worst thing they added to TW.

>>164389701
>Looks like Creative Assembly is rolling that back
>CA unfucking GW's mistakes

Neet

>>164390679

they unfucked GW's mistakes by creating a WHFB game. I bet whoever OK'd AoS is pretty pissed right now 2bh.

>renewed popularity in our IP
>lol, can't cash in on that because we dropped all those models and shit

Hey do you guys know what settings in M2TW would best mirror Shogun 2? I hate not being able to wasd the camera

>>164390546
It needs a different exchange. Needs to cause attrition in hostile land dependent on distance traveled and have a cooldown following its use.

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>>164390546
>They tried to be smartasses and escape through the underway.
>mfw I intercept them.

Question: Are wild riders supposed to out class Greatsword units of Vcunts, Empire and Dwarf factions? Cause they don't die, have higher moral than dwai, get charge bonus, anti large (I assume), and can move faster than you can kill them.

I just don't think Wildriders should fare better than the top end of great weapon infantry units. Their charge bonus, speed and anti large is enough. If they can out power your anvil line, what the fuck can you do?

t. slightly miffed anon.

>>164390802
Yep, that's exactly how I've felt about it. I see Forced March as a way of moving your own armies from the arse end of nowhere to the frontlines. Not for sacking places and ducking in and out of danger. It's a good idea but the implementation is atrocious.

>>164381897
I HAD NO CHOICE MOM, THE AUTISM BECKONED ME TO COME CLOSER AND I WAS TOO FRAIL IN SPIRIT AND BODY TO RESIST

>>164390546
Get one of the mods that increases home territory movement distance to get past this bullshit.

>>164389992

>Bretonnians playing tabletop minatures

Are Knights the true KNEETS?

>>164384606
Yeah holy shit these one unit cap shitters are crazy, throwing the whole game off balance.

>>164390894
If you're talking about wildwood rangers, right now they do a lot more AP damage than intended
Also, they're a lot more vulnerable to low tier and ranged units than the other high end infantry of other factions due to their low armour

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Where my poke and shoot bros at?

>>164390894
Probably. Centigors with great weapons do it as well.

Bottom line is that greatsword units are more of an anvil against infantry, rather than large units.

Note that the cavalry unit still takes awhile to do damage in melee and/or cycle charge, and the counter to a mobile unit is knowing where it'll go. And if it's in melee the only way it can go is out. So they're still a sufficient anvil as long as you react and solve the problem while they stand as anvil.

Note that they do cost more as well.

You're talking about riders right?
Not the possibility of what this lad interprets:
>>164391158
Right?

>>164391248

>pike and shot

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Units look very nice

>>164391361
those models are pretty boaring.

>>164391248
Playing Cossacks 3

>>164389992
>I'm telling you, clean shaven is the way to go this season!
>WE WILL ALL SPORT FULL BEARDS AND THAT'S THE END OF IT!
>Friends, please, calm down, we can discuss this in a civilized manner.
>W-What about moustaches?
>Holy shit I'm so bald it's like mint candy for my head.

Alright famalamadingdongs, now that GW knows that a company other than Relic can actually turn the Warhammer franchise into digital gold, do you think we're going to see a 40k TW?

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>>164391452

Just started a Greenskins campaign. Only played VC so far. Any tips?

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>>164391452
What did you expect, boars?

>>164391653

dont let the dwarfs faction confederate the purple dwarfs to the north west else you're gonna get dicked

dont fall for the gobboshit meme

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>use a custom scope on my mod.
>income jumps up 40%
hehe.
I was only pretending.

>>164391482
How is Cossacks 1: 2?
I'm still tossing up getting it or not.
I'll probably hold out for now because none of my buddies has it either.

I heard bad things about multiplayer but it did sound like release day networking issues.

Have they been resolved?

>>164391361
>dei

Get out!

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>Gobbo Archers

>>164391653
Just auto-resolve everything.

Can someone advise me on whether I should pick to play my first Very Hard Campaign as Durthu or Orion?

>>164391930
I don't know. I never play RTS games in multiplayer.

>>164392030
Grand Campaign or Seasons?

>>164392030
>picking an easy mode faction for your first VH campaign

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>>164389992

here i am

>>164392072
Fair enough I suppose.

Sell me the singleplayer then.
Is there a campaign? Are you just doing skirmishes?
Is the AI braindead?
Is it worth $15 burgerbux?

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>it's a Vampire Counts are fucked now that the Empire is fielding their endgame army of tanks, luminarks, greatswords, armor-piercing ranged and crazy cavalry

VC units are so mediocre it hurts

>>164392091
GC

>>164392095
Are they really easy? I heard when they first came out it was hard.

>>164391653
>think in cockney while playing
>watch films like The Rise of the Footsoldier for immersion
>be kunningly brutal
>or brutally kunning xD
>always be intent on stabbing
>be sure to eadbutt some umies
>WAAAAAGH or WEEEEEGH, the pronunciation doesn't matter
>zog da stunties
>always drive your boyz forward
>fink with ure choppa
>always remember that you's better than dem

>>164391361
Those models do look a little nicer than what I would expect from Rome 2. What did you do?

>>164392304
yeah, but at least they can endlessly regenerate and raise units that will stay on the batt-

No, wait, I thought we were talking about TWW not Total War: Multiplayer here. TWW is a 2016 game that was irrevocably ruined and is no more.

>>164392338
They got a pretty substantial buff a short while after they came out. They weren't really hard to begin with, unless you played them like the vampire counts, like I guess most people who play total war do.

I've only played Tree Hitler in seasons and I'm like halfway through.

I think looking at their faction bonuses, Orion is better overall but I'm not 100% sure.
I'm far more partial to Tree Hitler in context but I'll probably go orion when I do GC.

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>>164392491
It's Divide et Impera

>>164392543
The only issue with VC in singleplayer is the combination of their shit income and the way additional armies raise maintenance result in discouraging the player from overwhelming the opponent with numbers.

They're still fine, you just have to really go into their elites and properly use fear and terror.

>>164392594
Why the hell is the campaign map so dark?

>>164392812
mods.

>for most factions basic barracks is the primary recruitment building you want
>is the only recruitment building that can fit outside the province capital
>province capital real estate is super valuable
>always start out with basic barracks in capital

EVERY TIME
DELETE CAPITAL BARRACKS
REBUILD IT ELSEWHERE
JUST DON'T GIVE IT TO ME TO START WITH. PUT IT IN THE FIRST PSUEDO-TUTORIAL SETTLEMENT THE MISSIONS POINT YOU AT.

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>>164391248
HERE, BIKE&SHIT DA BEST!

>>164391526
>40k TW
no, 40k is for plebs

>>164392594
fountains?

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>>164392254
>Is there a campaign?
There's five.
1. HRE campaign where you play as Prince Eugene and fight the Ottomans & French/Spanish.
2. English Civil War
3. 17th century Russia
4. Cossacks
5. French campaign about the French navy

So far I've only played and beaten the HRE campaign.

>Are you just doing skirmishes?
Haven't tried those yet.
>Is the AI braindead?
At least in the campaign it wasn't. They would build huge bases and send large forces of infantry, cavalry and artillery.
>Is it worth $15 burgerbux?
I think it was worth it. But I kinda like the time period and Empire just doesn't do it anymore and AoE3 while great also has it's limits.
I was hoping it would go on a better sale but got it when it became obvious that there won't be a better deal.

>>164393309
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=831679533

I made a thing.

>>164393130

so what units would you recruit since you only ever start with a capital

unlike old TWs you can't recruit units from a basic settlement in warhammer

>>164388880
>>164388625
>>164387764
Chaos Dwarfs could theoretically not be included, with the excuse that "da ogres eated dem XDDD" and with the ogres being situated in the Dark Lands, but given how much money CA is making from this and given how the Badlands region needs more stuff going on I don't really see a good reason to not add "Dwarfs from Hot Topic" to the game.

>>164393372
I thought some factions could. Could've sworn wood elves got something just from their basic settlement thing.

And my point is, recruit nothing, take your second settlement turn 2 like everyone does 99% of the time, and have recruitment capability from there.

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>>164387764

>>164393372
there's a mod that allows you to recruit basic empire and dorf troops from basic settlements.

>>164393372
you conquer the second settlement with your base stack, like, with every faction

>>164393395
anon

listen to me

they are the best army in the setting

>>164391526
Depends on the contract Relic has with the 40k license. It'd be crazy not to make TW:40k, but the license might be locked up for a while.

>>164376789
Roll pls be fun

>>164376789
wot next, no skarsnik and wood elves pls

>>164382740
Literally no reason to make it 100% free. And making them campaign packs like Beastmen and Wood Elves means they can't make more DLC for them, which is okay if we assume Kangz, Ogres and Chorfs aren't in demand and don't have many lords anyway- which I guess is kind of true.

>>164382412
>>164382590
It isn't the same because Nehekhara, Araby, the Dark Lands and the Mountains of Mourn are all much larger than Athel Loren even in a situation where they water them down in terms of size.

Given the way CA has overpriced Beastmemes and Welfs thus far, why would they not want to create a new category to enable them to charge even more for these races which will require them to expand the map by a large degree- keeping in mind that the mountains of mourn aren't even visible on the edge because they're so far east.

>>164382408
The second expansion is Daemons. It was always Daemons. There is literally no good reason why they would create a map that has the realm of chaos, darklands, mountains of mourn and nehekhara awkwardly separate from the rest of the map in the event you don't own the base game and none of those races have any real synergy with each other to be included like that.

Daemons on the other hand can alone be subdivided into gods and then units based on those gods- Slaaneshi Chosen and Khornate berserkers and whatever else- as four separate god-specific factions.

>>164393719
>no skarsnik and wood elves pls
Congratulations, now you've got yourself a manlet.
What's the next step of your master plan?

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>Franz and Gelt busy finishing off Vampire cunts in the east
>Chaos coming from the north
>Wood Elves coming from the south
>Artois who took over Bretonnia in the west just broke the non-aggression pact between us

Been a rough first campaign of 2017.

>>164393539

the 2nd town doesn't always have a barracks and even then its at least 3 turns without recruiting in which time the AI faction you're against [templehof, bloody spearz, secessionists...] will have 3 turns to recruit more units. thats 9 more units than you will have in their army.

>>164393619
Now that guy has to post the pic again.

>>164393885
>the 2nd town doesn't always have a barracks
That's one of the key points of my original proposition, though I'm not the lad you're replying to now.

The AI needs 9 more units than the player quite frankly.

>tfw the Empire doesn't have any pikes

>>164393619
I realize that, they are probably the army my body is most ready for

But on the tabletop they obviously didn't have much of a playerbase due to being forge world only.

But on the other hand given that TWW was one of the best selling games in the Winter Sale and one of the best selling games of 2016 and will get yet another massive bump of sales and players when the Old World Edition is released and there will be all these people playing the game who know little about the actual tabletop there really isn't any good reason to NOT include the Chaos Dwarfs because even if only a fraction of the currently massive playerbase decides to buy them you're going to make a lot of money.

And this is keeping in mind that Chorfs have a cool aesthetic and I'm certain when hordes of hobgoblins are raping people from the flanks while roaring hell-tanks are raping people from the front there will probably be a lot of people who want to buy them.

I suppose you also have to consider that putting the content in game, unplayable, enables people who are unsold on this content to experience it and see if they want it.

>>164394027

>tfw spears
>tfw halberds
>tfw no pikes

>>164394029
Please stop. I can't imagine the Chaos stunties fan club can afford to pay you a very high shilling wage. There are better employment opportunities available.
Please consider them.

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>>164393808
Never mind. Everything went better than expected.

>>164393885
Blood Spearz is weak as shit and as dorfs you can wipe out multiple armies with just your starting forces.

With Templehof it's easy to raise dead and overrun them in their capital early on and after that they don't have settlements worth shit so they can't oppose you, especially if you get a second vampire lord to blitz the north while you're blitzing west.

Secessionists are by far the most annoying starting enemies because of the sheer size of Reikland and the fact that it's human vs. human and unlike vampires you don't have a "raise living" mechanic to rapidly build a big force, so even rushing the secessionists won't wipe them out quickly enough to avoid bullshit.

>>164381275
>game announced as a trilogy
>time comes for 2nd game/new world and all the possibilities that entails, fixing problems with the base game, expanding on sieges after easing newfag fantasykids in, naval battles to accomodate the seafaring peoples being added
>go apeshit about a ripoff
what's your deal buddy

>>164394027
>>164394139
Pikes are for bitch niggers and memesters.
Halberds are the thinking man's weapon of choice.

>>164394027
>Estalia, Tilea, Border Princes are famous for using Pikes
>they have generic Empire rosters

>>164394179
>not doing it for free

>>164394318
>thinking man's weapon of choice
>just stand there and wait for enemies to land on your weapon

at least with my pikebros we can move around and crush enemies with their own weight and shit

>3.6 attack speed

>>164394284
>time comes for 2nd game/new world and all the possibilities that entails, fixing problems with the base game, expanding on sieges after easing newfag fantasykids in, naval battles to accomodate the seafaring peoples being added
THAT'S WILD SPECULATION

>>164394349
>>164394027
cataph's southern realms gives estalia pikemen

also just updated like 2 days ago adding a new lord to each of those factions

Why do these southern shitfucks never take trade agreements, are they hardcoded to ignore you like Kislev? It's really annoying and dumb, there is just no reason for this.

>>164394281
I never had any trouble with the seccessionists at all.
Even if you pick Gelt God bless your doomed soul, the mortar will help make quick work of them.
And obviously Karl and the Reiksguard will absolutely crush early AI armies.

>>164394349
>kislev is famous for ice magic and lightly armored horse archers
>use empire roster

They could have given Kislev the Bretonnian roster and it would have fit them better.

>>164394440
>cataph's southern realms gives estalia """""""""""""""""""""pikemen""""""""""""""""""""""""""
ftfy

>>164394401
yeah it is, hence possibilities
why be outraged at something we've known for months rather than be excited at what we don't know

>>164394521
No it wouldn't.

>>164394454
The problem is that the speed at which you can take the secessionists out is lower, and in that time the orcs from the north and the savage orcs from the south and the beastmen from the west can all come over to fuck with you and this is ignoring the possibility of Marienburg declaring war on you.

So...we gonna get Lizardmen?

If Archaon hates Chaos gods, then why Chaos gods supporting him?

>>164392543
If the funds for the MP battle is so high that the Empire player is fielding Tanks, Luminarks and Greatswords, you probably have the funds to field the VC units that can counter that shit.

>>164394669
Chaos society isn't exactly built on trust and friendship.

>>164394658
Fuck off, furry.

>>164394692
>Luminark

Uh, why

>>164393806
not playing him but either uber-angry god manlet or manlet of revenge and lost eight peaks

>>164394761
>Hurr durr ur a furry because u want fucking StarGate Reptilians

Apply yourself

>>164394658
Almost undoubtedly. They can't really appear at any time other than alongside the other two Elves. And there is no way in hell said Elves aren't the next game.

>>164394669
Chiefly arrogance as a state of being. They need one another for their goals and each is confident they'll fuck the other over at the end.

>>164394787
normal luminark has no why.
RoR luminark because net is superb and basic luminark chassis can sometimes do a little bit of damage if the enemy brings big guys.

>>164376764
>Total Borehammer
kys

>>164394562
https://youtu.be/OzZZ6Mpfh7c?t=98

>>164380374
>battle features
Apart from LoL-tier powerups how is Warhammer more deep than other TWs? We still don't have a fighting retreat button, for example

>>164395376
well the fact that you have armies of creatures that have no morale and must be put down to the last man does add some depth to battles.

>>164395376
Not the person you're replying to, but cavalry charges in warhammer have gotten me as hard as artillery in napoleon or pila on charge in rome 2

>>164395376
> battle features
Heroes, items, spells, monsters, psychological effects, varied unit rosters, vanguard deployment (?) etc ?

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98KB, 954x550px

>>164395235
I'm so fucking ashamed

>>164395651
vanguard deploy aint new. You can add flying units though.

>>164393527
Fucking kek. But sadly Chaos dwarves will be included eventually, there are shekels to be made. But they are a meme faction of the worst kind. Literally what is their point?

>>164384823
>get on Kislev's good side
That's fucking impossible, surely?
I've even tried playing as Kislev and Kislev fucking hates Kislev.
You must be paying them fucking hundreds of thousands and sucking that kislev every fucking day, I cannot for the flying fuck of me get any rapport with them. Even now they're down to their last settlement, under siege and inches away from my armies they refuse to even grant me ANYTHING.
You and your wizardry can fuck off.

But seriously, aside from bribes why does Kislev seem to hate absofuckinglutely everyone?