/twg/ - Total War General

>new thread
>page 7

Are there going to be more episodes in time commanders season 3 or just the 3 of them?

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>>164492972
Your first priority should be to move the thread to page 1. But beware the...

>it's a no [Embed] edition

>>164493071
You mean if our Daimyo is to become Shogun, military ruler of all of

Man, the 1d4chan page for warhammer TW is comfy.

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6th for FORM PIKE PHALANX

DoW2 > Total War

>>164493309
both different games desu.
And I actually played dow3 for 15 minutes at pax.

>>164493406
is it as shit as it looks

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>tfw to intelligent to govern an world spanning empire

>>164493406
Excuse me, trying to meme here, senpai.
How was 3? I loved Retribution, but everything I've seen of 3 was kinda worrying.

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>>164492897

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This new mod is great, his new black armor looks better than the silver.

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>tfw too intelligent to govern my dad's empire

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17th for brilliant AI

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>>164493614
>too
Get out of here Brainlet von Carstein

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Arverni? I haven't heard that term in 300 years

>>164493526
asked them about the animations and particle effects. Said they were looking into it.
>>164493430
gameplay is pretty solid. It plays like a mixture of Dawn of war 1 and CoH2 (the LoS parts).
Basebuilding is better than dawn of war 1 because it doesn't feel tacked on.

Drop pods are awesome.

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>>164493867
STAAAAAB

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Mah Rord! A grorious victory wirr sune be yours!

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>>164494002

>reinstall rome 2 because I couldn't get eb2 not to be shit not even the devs could lul
>pick rome, because rome rules
>BRAVE ROMANS TO A MAN

why do we hate this game, again?

>>164493987
>gameplay is pretty solid

that's reassuring, at least. Haven't liked anything i've seen so far, especially the pastel looking colours, hopefully they've done some changes since the announce trailer.

not played CoH2, loved the original though. glad to see base building is on form, hopefully they don't do some faggy beta where people complain about it and they change it. loved the original dow since it was a scifi command and conquer (was like 8 at the time, had never heard of SC or 40k...) and it pushed every button. How tactical is the combat? Is it closer to 1, or 2? Wasn't a fan of every unit having multiple buttons/abilities in DoW2.

Also, what factions did you get to play as? Just Imperium by the sounds of it?

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>>164493856
Of course you haven't because you're an illiterate Christian dog and probably German as well.
No wonder you never heard of the Arverni since you never read the works of great Julius Caesar or any great author for that matter. Go listen some more about your dead Jewish criminal since that is all you're capable of for your lacking whit will not understand the words of Caesar, Homer, Herodot or Sueton.

>>164494315
combat in 1 was far more tactical than people give it credit for. In a MP game, blobbing will be punished pretty heavily by flamethrowers or unit abilities like grenades. Heroes are not as OP as people like to think. they are more like dow2 heroes as in they will form the basis of your army but will die off if you mismanage them.

The space marine snow mission. Same as every other streamer.

I personally liked the colors. DoW1 was pretty bright, and you can always use the army painter if you want more darker tones.

The best thing I liked is that they are open to using ideas from both their own RTS games and other ones. For example, you can't reinforce in the field unless you have an APC like the Metal bawx. It makes those units have an interesting niche in the army.

Honestly, the particle effects were accentuated by the snow and lava on the map.

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>>164494280
>play as rome
>click on general
>MY LIFE FOR NER'ZHUL

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>mfw it's stabby time

mktw campaign when

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>>164494737
>be britbong
>tfw no stabby time

>>164494905
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK THAT CAN'T BE REAL

>>164494905
You can't buy cutlery if you're under 18? Wew lads, I'm having a giggle right now.

>>164495091
Britain simply picked the "ban swords" option when the event came up in FotS.

>>164494492
You are a bigger cuck than Belisarius

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>tfw britbong
>tfw no chariot stabby time

Best AI mod for FOTS?

>>164495385
>>164494905
Hello /k/ bored are we?

>>164495385
>play Rome II
>Iceni have chariots
>be Brit
>ride chariot
>get arrested
>'modern' day

what did they mean by this?

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>>164495385
>be british
>give up the cross

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We did it gobbos, 3 runesmiths da uvva boyz dun 'ave ta worry about

>>164495091
>>164494905
>>164495163
That's not real btw Do you seriously believe shit you see in anonymous 4chan posts?

I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna finally push myself to finish a Rome 2 campaign. Any good mods to go with it?

>>164495916
Yes

>>164495916

4 turns per year is a minimum

fuck losing generals to old age every 30 turns

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How long until they get mad at my empire for being larger than theirs and declare war?

>>164495837
>217 Thorgrim kills
>348 Peak Gate Guard Kills
>391 gyro kills
>Untouched norgrimling's ironbreakers
>477 fucking irondrake kills

Haha get fucked grobi scum

>>164496357
>military actions against garamantians

kill yourselves, fucking eurasian trash

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

I AM A RUNELORD, NOT SOME KIND OF "SMITH"

>>164496712
what?

>>164495837
How did you expect to win with that?

Lads, how do you play Angrund? Consolidate the nearby dwarven settlements first or just go straight to the Badlands and try to take Eight peaks asap?

Does it have a strong garrison right away?

Any tried that new Mousilion mod that is popular on steam atm?

>>164497425

I usually secure the starting area, then kill skarsnik ASAP, then if the dwarfs in the northwest dislike me i take em out. Then I go for KEP.

>>164497425
Gain control of starting province.
Take out Skarsnik, only to walk into one of his tricksy traps and add another chapter in the Book while moaning about being the King of Eight Peaks.
Head for the Badlands.

Eight Peaks will typically have a full stack as well as a big garrison guarding it.

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>>164495737
>int britbongs

>>164497689
>Take out Skarsnik, only to walk into one of his tricksy traps

Every time I try and make my way over to Skarsnik, his fucking rebels have managed to force march a stack to MY lands, attacking me. How the fuck is this making any sense, they fucked him over and took control of his home settlement.

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>>164492897
Rollan for reddit :^)

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>>164496042
>>164496357
>>164497254
As the greenskins I have a lot of throw away armies with basic troops or just random dumb shit followed by proper armies with the better options.

The gobbo general made it out and the next turn Azhag goes in there with another warboss and clears it out easy. Then the gobbo army was remade and sent out to soak again.

Roleplaying with a bit of strategy is the best way to play IMO

>>164497901
roll

>>164496489
I didn't even want to expand into africa this campaign, but for whatever reason they kept on declaring war on me. They were actually the no2 power behind the sissynids, controlling almost all of africa, but they just couldn't keep the peace so I had to culturally enrich them

tell me about the black sea colonies

>>164497901
>the redditor who crossposted from this general being a giant fag in his redditpost

like pottery tbqh

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>>164496691

Fuck Bretonnians. Stop treating your peasants like shit, you honourless stains!

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>>164498483
I saw a vision of Gilles le Breton. He said you're a faggot and a peasant.

>>164498376
>being a giant fag
thanks :)

>>164498310
they are the nations of pergamon, colchis and cimmeria


they live on the black sea

>>164498747
>pergamon
>on the black sea

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>>164498638
Nice "patron" goddess you got there. Be a shame if your culture was founded on a lie

>>164498747
are they fun to play as

>>164498872
probably

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>>164498853
The Lady of the Lake is a human goddess. You can tell by the size of the tits on the statue.

The Lady of the Lake has also said to return the world to normal, making sure the peasants of Estalia, Tilea, the Empire, Kislev, and the Border Princes know their place.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>164499037
>you can tell by the size of the tits on the statue

huh seems ironic to me considering the lady's rack looks remarkably similar to the one wielded by the spellsinger titty monster in one of the wood elf banner arts

>someone post it

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>>164499289

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>>164499137

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hurr durr

how do you use gyros in TWW?

>>164499793
you send them to athel loren and play it aint me

>>164499793
I ain't no Thane's son.

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>fight garamantians until all they have left are the 2 minor provinces in aethiopia
>after taking their last settlements, they still have a full stack inbetween axum and the city above it
>Axum proposes defensive alliance for helping them take out garamantians, I accept
>next turn notice last garamantian army sieging axum
>decide not to help axum so that I can take the city if the garamantians capture it

DEVILISH

>>164499382
I'd worship that iykwim.

How the fuck do I force steam to download the dlc I just bought.

I want Boris to dominate me!

>>164499793
what kind? there's 3

basic: supressing ranged units, requires micro
bombers: bombing clusters of enemy lines
brimstones: anti cavalry, anti large, anti monster

>>164500353
Why would you worship an elf instead of a pure human goddess?

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I am playing as Cordoba have three grand mosques and 2 fully upgraded imams but Islamic influence is still going down. Explain please.

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>Friend convinces me to try Radious.
>Play Dorfs to try and break my record for turns taken to reclaim the badlands.
>Get to Black Crag as Grombrindal.
>Nothing but night goblins in the garrison.
>wut.
>Take Black Crag with minimal losses, worst damage was 40 losses to quarrelers who wandered into wolf riders. Gyrocopter got almost 400 kills though.
>Get Greenskins down to 1 settlement.
>Grimgor is sitting in it with a full stack, lightning striking whatever other armies he raises.
>This garrison is also nothing but goblins.
>Take it, only have to deal with Red Fangs at this point.
>Red Fangs are down to their last settlement, the major one with a diamond mine.
>Red Fangs field two armies in the time it takes me to get down there, Have to chase them across the badlands.
>Raise an army to siege their settlement while they're mucking about.
>Nothing but goblins again.
>Zhufbar gets wiped out by Undead.
>Bloody Spearz come out of nowhere and get intercepted by an army I was recruiting to clear the mountains of bullshit.
>Catch both Red Fangz armies on the same turn.
>Decide I've had enough, going to delete this save and start a proper one so Greenskins aren't just goblins.
>Get a blue screen.
Fun fact: Radious added Glade Knights to the Wood Elf roster. Armoured and shielded :^)
Never again. That was the most unfun experience I've had playing Warhammer, and I've played a Chaos campaign to completion.

>>164500426
Because look at them titties.

Also >rub ears

>>164500372
for the total war titles the dlc content is already in the game, because it is downloaded as part fo the patches. Purchasing it from the store just allows you to access it

>>164500529
Events or local traditions might make it so that there is a very small amount of a non-islamic religion in some provinces.

>>164499037
>>164499382
>>164499393
Is nowhere fucking safe for nofap jesus christ...

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>>164500426
>Lady of the Lake
>human

>>164500749
Correct. You ready to abandon your man-gods and worship a true human goddess?

>>164500715

>nofap

This meme is fucking shit

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How fucking dare you Ca

>this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JLxPpJU0Zg

>>164500715
You could at least fap to a superior waifu, like Vampire-chan.

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>>164500749
Found somewhat better picture. The Lady has pointed ears.

http://is.4chan.org/vg/1483476217846.jpg
Which one

>>164501095
obv the one with shield wall + disciplined

what am I looking at btw

>>164501067
>>164500749
>>164499382
>>164499037
Aren't Elfs supposed to be flat wtf lol?

What the fucking fuck

https://youtu.be/UPupIupk810

>>164501095
Did I just click an image link on 4chan...
woah...
left

>>164499793
>Basic gyrocopter
Don't. You're better off with another organ gun or cannon. Or even infantry. They don't do enough work after they drop bombs, and they don't have enough bombs. Of course, last time I tried them I wasn't good with gyros.
>Brimstone
They're good against monsters or clumped infantry. They can also harass the shit out of missile units, and their bombs are enough to rack up over 100 kills per battle. Just don't use bombs on units with small numbers or loose formation unless you have to. You can press them into melee combat in a pinch, but they aren't made for it, and won't survive long against melee troops or cav.
>Gyrobomber
Same idea with the bombs, except you have more payloads to drop. If used properly, they can rip elite units to shreds, and keep applying pressure for a while after running out of bombs. They're not the best at sniping heroes or lords, though. And being limited to 1 model per unit means melee is a bad idea, even against weak missile units.

Of course, practice is the best way to figure out what works. Force yourself to use gyros when you can get away with it, and eventually you'll not want to leave the Karak without them.

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>>164501226
Not Warhammer Elves.

>>164501372
I'm not even going to click this

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>>164501226
>>164501525
Certainly not

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>Gobbo Archers

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G O B L I N S

>>164501525
>>164501726
Whatever happened to the anon who wanted to be dominated by best elf anyway?

>>164502149
he's like 20 posts above you m8

>>164502149
He was right here >>164499137

>>164502237
>>164502219
Oh thanks god
Everything is fine then

>>164497938
>in the fluff Belegar is a loyal minion of Thogrim's and is dependent on his aid and the aid of Karak Azul
>in the game Belegar starts in Karak McFuckinNowhere and ends up as Thorgrim's benevolent patron, while Karak Azul gets trashed by the 'skins by turn 10 anyway

'roleplaying', right, hehe

I'm gonna try out Radious for Warhammer since I have over 100 hours with SFO and I want a decent change

it can't be that bad, right?

>>164502315
>Everything is fine then
>the real G O B L I N S poster is still gone

it'll never be fine m8

>>164502363
I urge you to reconsider.
>>164500651
It's not worth it.

How do I play the Huns, I always get raped by romans and slavic, like a fucking wore

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*pop*

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>>164499037
I was expecting the classic prophetess of the lady with this classic headgear and am quite dissapointed at this lazy copout desu.

Finally hisfags can prove themselves useful by informing us how said headgear is properly termed. Any medievalists up in dis thread?

>>164502613
damn the gore and animations are so shit in warhammer compared to attila

i know it makes the combat better but damn

>>164502661
'Tis a divided hennin

>>164499037

Will the fay enchantress just be a lore of life wizard or will CA find a way to give her the ability to choose between the 8 lores just like she could in the TT?

>sarmatian heavy cavalry is a medium shock cavalry unit
>has same armor value as very heavy sarmatian cataphract lancer, but 30 more speed

you can tell CA put no thought into the Alans & Suebians

>>164502863
Nah, cause muh skilltree. I wouldn't be surprised if even the Slann had three lores of magic max coz muh skilltree because GW are nothing if not inflexible, as befits strategy autists.

>>164502863
Might be lore of life + one other lore
They gave damsels lore of heavens so maybe that will be it, or they'll figure out a more elegant way to let mages choose between 8 lores by the time lizardmen come out and just move those changes over

>>164502786
I kind of wish they'd go the Attila route of throwing in a few kill animations in to help spice things up.

But then again Warhammer plays so fucking fast you'd never get to sit and see them anyway.

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>>164503107

You were saying?

>>164502838
Thankee, milord.

In recompense, more classic Bretonnia!

>>164503380
kek I had forgotten about these monsters. Fucking ridiculous

>tfw not sure if really want to recruit Gelt.

I've heard terrible things about him. Is he worth even having as a legendary lord after Franz?

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>first time playing through a Shogun 2 campaign
>mfw realm divide
>didn't crush Hakawhatshisname early enough in the game
>now at war with the entire map
MY CAMPAIGN IS IN GRAAAAAVE DANGER, MY DUDES

>>164503963

He's only good as a starting lord, imo, for the +1 wizard cap. Lore of Metal isn't very good and he sucks donkey dick in melee combat and doesn't really have anything worth having to have him in an army.

His voice actor is the only reason to use him. It's really good.

>>164494280
Rome 2 hate is a meme, the only people that actually hate it are the anons that got burnt at launch by the awful release.

It's not a bad game.

>>164504191
Just TOTSUGEKI the shit out of them, that's what a true Date would do.

>>164503963
Gelt's a pretty cool dude. He's guaranteed to not die, and lore of metal gives a map-wide bonus to AP, even if the other spells aren't worth much. But if it's him or Volkmar, go for Volkmar.

>>164504354
I don't like it, legit. it just doesn't feel that fun to play. I don't know, it doesn't feel as fun as shogun and doesn't feel as fluid as atilla and I've only played a bit of atilla so far.

>maximus autismus hasn't made a video in 5 months

>>164503963
It's not the worst it's just hes stuck with a lore of magic thats under powered compared to other lores.

Just speck him out for army buffs and don't send him against anything heavy hitting and he'll be fine.

It's a shame because he's a interesting character but CA can't into balance.

>>164503963

Recruiting him is worth it just for his quest battles, just do it, he's fun and he's not THAT bad.

>>164504891

>Butthurt history fags who got overhyped for Rome II are still THIS mad

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somehow the persecution of tengriism in my cities has greatly upset my military

lads, what faction always blobs your maps no matter what, and which one always dies early on, when it really shouldn't?

>blobbers

For me, Dwarfs always beat Grimgor and his armies back and subsequently take the badlands

>shitters

Rome always gets relegated to the island to the west, usually end up a client state of Carthage.

>Can push for a peace treaty forcing them to break their own alliances but can't tell them to leave my allies in peace.

God damn it CA.

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>>164502661
This one is so much better though.

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Rebels in Constantinople :(

I want to be kept a shining jewel up until I capture it

If stunties 'n' 'umies all got along, they'd probly gun me down by the end of this waaagh

>>164504965
It's a mix of that and people still butt hurt DLC has become a industry standard.

Which is kind of a joke because if you don't like it don't buy it, but I guess thats hard to do?

>>164503963
Why has CA left him so shit? The game has been out long enough for simple balancing.

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>>164505368
>troops ignoring my commands
Sounds like a problem between the chair and the keyboard

>>164504891

I'll admit, as much as I like the game I'm still glad it's mixed. I can understand that DLC is industry standard (as much as I hate it) but even a lot of the finished factions are lazy. Don't even get me started on how much they phoned in the minor factions.

>>164505102
What fid he spend those 13.2 hours doing then?>>164505368
How do you even get those issues

>>164505237
I love Total War, but the DLC prices are megajew. It's a legit complaint. Nearly 20 bucks for one fucking faction, come on.

>>164505368
I can sympathize with the DLC issues, but this is a whole new level of retardation

even by Steam standards

>>164505363
No one on Reddit complained
>>164505018
Today they persecute tengriism, tommorow Christianity

>>164505567
Depends whether you think steam reviews are the place to complain about DLC or not
It's one of those things that could use some kind of separate category, along with optimization

>>164505237
I think most are happy to accept factions like beastmen and wood elfs being DLC, but the Chaos preorder was poorly handled. Preordering wasn't even a massive deal but Chaos are a staple faction in the setting.

FUCKING ATTILA GENERAL SNIPE: THE GAME FUCKING ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME THESE MEN ARE FUCKING WORTHLESS

>>164505567
I still like to wonder how different the revenue would have been if they sold factions at about half the price they did. Would buyrates be twice as high or more?

>>164505812
>Redditfags that can't skirmish cry about dagger ear scum being too weak
>they're patched to be so strong that they overrun the campaign every single time
>meanwhile real issues are ignored

Bravo, CA.

>>164505843
well, the DLC page is for sure

bombing the base game's page because of that is a dick move tho

>>164503226
What are you saying, of course the slaanesh will be able to use all the magic , they'll probably have their own branch where they learn the default spells all at once then the tier one spells all at once and so on

Damn, those Age of Reckoning trailers are still pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-68bXPgH9Dk

>>164505079
It's executed better for obvious reasons, but the new concept is more wishy-washy generic fantasy and less of a tasteful touch of hisfaggotry.

>>164506038
I don't know. I can only speak for myself, I only bought the Chaos dlc because I'm a fanboy. If the other factions were even 25% cheaper I'd buy them too.

>>164505567
bought the game for 30bucks and using a fixed dll to unlock all dlc even works online. Anyone intereste? it also works with family sharing so your main acc should be safe behind 7 proxies. still nobody has been reprimanded for it so far it seems.

It's practically modding!

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>>164506193
They gave the head dress to the mounted damsel.

>>164506264
That's fucking illegal you goof.

>>164505905
nobody has problems with the factions, its the pricing. It is the result of a really scummy strategy by CA where they release some half-assed campaign alongside a race, and bump up the price because of it. No one enjoyed the eye-for-an-eye campaign, and no one enjoyed the seasons of revelation campaign, but people still payed full price for the dlc because they wanted the new factions. And now, because people have continued to buy the dlc at the full price, they aren't likely to change the practice.

>>164505994
What faction are you playing/what unit is your general? It isn't like WH where you can just toss your gen in willy-nilly and expect him to perform well. Keep him behind your line and use him only in dire circumstances

>>164506174
literally the most hype i ever was for anything
too bad 2 factions was a big let down from 3faction rvr in their previous game and also unfinished and all the rest

>>164506312
it's the only way to get your moneys worth. These truly are the end times.

>>164503792
Yeah these guys were badass, did they just get ignored into oblivion?

>Wood Elves have conquered Sylvania.
>I'm Empire.

HALP

WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO, THEY'RE WAY TOO STRONG TO DECLARE WAR ON BUT THEY'RE ALSO TOO EXTENDED FOR ME TO EXPAND SAFELY

>>164506264
you wouldn't download a car

>>164506680

You basically have the choice of trying to push them back or restarting. I've had so many retarded pushes by Wood Elves in the Grand Campaign now that I've lost count. It makes me want to grab the 'any faction can occupy anywhere' mod to balance things out.

>>164506680
I don't get why the Wood Elves are so fucking OP in AI hands when I've heard they're super weak as a player

>>164505079
>>164506193

The head covering/veil thingy kind of mirrors Medieval representations of the Virgin Mary? Kinda? Sorta? grasping at straws?

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>>164499037
>>164500749

Can the King fuck the Fay Enchantress? Is it allowed?

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>>164506056
>Wood elves are buffed to be able to hammer and anvil like all other factions, because people can't wrap their head around the fact there's more ways to fight
>Wood elves are now horribly broken when played to their strenghts

>>164506680
Elgi genocide now.

>>164506948
they IGNORE amber requirements.

>>164506956
Didn't Gilles le Breton (first king of Bretonnia) marry the Lady herself during End Times?

>>164507049
End Times is hot garbage.
Better option :https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Endhammer
>fuck i forgot how much porn is on 1d4chan.

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lets go, hunnic buttmonkeys

>>164506950
it seems to have been more of a profane bling thing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hennin

>>164506451
Ostrogoths, Germanic Nobles. The unit was stood behind our main line and was killed by missile troops while the rest of the unit was at like 80%, fucking 4 seconds later my whole army was routing despite most of them also being at ~75%

I realise know why my Alani game was so stupidly easy, just lure them around with horses fuckers till you isolate and kill their General and there you have it

>>164506970
There isn't really another way to set up than in a double line, and you can't even effect a feigned retreat cause WE aren't horseniggers and won't reliably outrun the enemy.

>>164505567
>>164505905

No I agree with that the prices are stupid. but when you look at most of the complaints it's less about the price and more "hurr I hate DLC, don't support this game!!!1!"

Which pisses me off because honestly the content has been bad and it's been getting better over time it's just over priced.

I mean I'm fine with the Lord packs the biggest issue to me has been the faction packs. Having the mini-campaigns forced on everyone and then still having them be boring shit to play is just the worst and they need to change that.

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Downloaded FotE but I don't know who to play

When I get to the end game, I don't want my soldiers looking like someone who just emerged from a mud hut. I'm fine with starting as whatever, and I can live with cities being mudhuts until the end, I just want professional looking soldiers

>>164507889
the biggest issue is the base game, I doubt anyone would give a shit if beastmen and welfs never existed but convincing sieges, diplomatic options and some more depth to the features were in the base game. Likewise for the next expansion, it could be just two races with naval combat and it'd still be better than 4 races in the current set up.

How are Centigors with Throwing Axes? I've only got 60 hours in TW:W but so far it seems like Missile Cav are universally shit.

>>164506948
It's a mix of the AI getting cheats (Extra money, ignoring Amber, diplomatic buffs) Which leads to things like all the wood elves with their super settlements all confederating within the first 20 turns. Which then gives them MORE MONEY to spam out stacks, which when mixed with their aggressive behavior leads to them kicking the shit out of all the other starting nations.

Also the auto resolve favors ranged units and stats so with that being their factions main trait and the buff they got they're now stomping all other factions. (Because the only way the AI can deal with other AI is with auto resolve)

>>164507894
PLAy as tanuhkids they're hella fun, renamed as tanukh I think but still have same models, also you only have 1 archer unit and no pikes so you learn how to cav

>>164508168
That's true, I'm just hoping that with the mutil game set up they're going with it means that can do far larger changes going forward.

If the next game comes out and it's just another 4 factions and nothing much has been changed or added back in I'm going to lose hope in CA and probably join these people making complaints.

>>164508457
They used to be shit/ok due to having to stand and fire but they recently got given the ability to fire while moving so they should be able to be proper anti-armor skirmisher cav now.

>>164509135
Its just ok and it lets you go through the motions of warhammer total war with some flashy spectacles and monsters but that's it. It isn't a benchmark total war game, it hasn't expanded on that formula, but its certainly no worse than previous games and you have to admit it was a lot more work. Just a shame that adding more layers to the same base isn't going to make a better game.

>>164506604
They probably died during the End Times.

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>>164507619
The best strategy I've found for out-horsefucking the huns is to play as either roman empire and get equites dalmatae with the tier3 horse upgrade, which allows you to catch and destroy hunnic horse archers before they kill your other, better cav.

Unfortunately, the alans have no very light melee cav, and can't get tier 3 horses

>>164509575
Again, End Times a shit
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Endhammer

>>164509575
Most the Brets either died in Middenheim/Altdorf battling chaos or escaped into a realm aided by the lady.

>>164509135
The quality of the DLC has improved with each iteration so they look as though they are taking feedback into account, which will also affect what goes into the next game/expansion and dlc.

>>164509424
I know, I just really like it and want to see it become more than what it currently is.

I've been happy with it as a start but it desperately need more going on. I just hope CA will pull through with the expansions and don't get lazy.

is melee attack the actual chance of a hit? so if melee attack is 30, that's a 30% chance of a hit?

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>>164510274
>the next expansion will just have 10 sub-factions

>>164510274
stupid mini-campaigns are still there though

>>164510470
afaik yeah

>>164510507
that should make belegar happy though, that means there will be less factions that can pound his pathetic hold-less dwarf ass into oblivion

So is there any way to defeat a LL with a garrison? If not, why do garrisons exist?

>>164510602
>stupid mini-campaigns are still there though

I enjoy the mini campaigns but I don't like how it's factored into the price as heavily as it is. Where WoC = £6 and BM/WE = £14, so that's £8 you can say is going to the mini campaign. It is pretty ridiculous. They are also nowhere near as good as the Rome 2 and Attila mini campaigns.

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So when is Archaon actually supposed to show up? It's turn 130 and i'm still facing these minor armies.

>>164510974

It depends on the faction and what you have honestly. I struggle with VC because they have no archers so you can't just kite the LL around the map, whittling him down. Plus, if they have archers and your garrison doesn't you just lose by default.

2 crypt ghouls, 1 grave guard I think and 2 skeletons? is a terrible garrison, I'd take miners and quarrelers over that any day. With that one, you can certainly kill an LL.

>>164511227

he should come soon, it seems to range from 110-150 or so but is accelerated if you have more land.

>>164507275

Thats actually not that bad.

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>>164510602
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY, YOU FILTHY FUCKING GROBI?

why doesnt CA explain how stats work exactly? all i can find are people doing tests on youtube to take an educated guess at how it works

If a have a melee unit fighting an enemy and I send in Karl Franz and he starts swinging his mad Warhammer can he hurt my own units with his aoe swings?

>>164493545
I used to play TW arena with some steambro from /mbg/ when it was in cbt
It was pretty fun actually, despite all the friendly fire troubles we would constantly end up in the first places
i really hope wargoyming doesn't screw it up

Childhood is when you idolize the Empire, Adulthood is realizing the vampire counts make more sense

>>164511813
just the age old conflict between ruling yourself and being responsible for the shit or letting others rule and being irresponsible. Western society used to be built on the former ideal.

>>164511703
I said that dawi women were made to take green cock.

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When will Romans learn?

>>164511706
from what I understand, Melee Atk/Melee Def are % chances for a unit's attack to hit/be blocked respectively. Weapon damage determines how much damage is dealt to a unit's hp upon being hit by an attack, with armor capable of blocking damage that isn't ap.

>>164511813
>tfw you will never live the neet life in Sylvania and only have to pay the occasional blood tax in exchange for tendies and protection

Not gonna make it lads.

>>164512193
Smelly dumb Etruscan scum

how are you playing as them

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>>164495737
>>164497797
This picture fits so perfectly lmao

>>164512348
i dont see any stat that says how often a unit attacks or what the physical impact of a charge is
also doesnt explain what the difference is between shield armor/defense and normal armor and defense

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>>164512669
I did it lads. The KANGS retook the white devils claimed lands. Africa is the capital, camels>horses

>>164496357
you own a huge chunk of the map just invade
i beat them with 2 armies and savescumming a couple times

>>164512854
>garamantians
>kangs

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>>164512450
Faction unlock. Also using a mod from Will to give them more historical units.

This doesn't feel right...

>>164509792
I thought nothing could be worse than the End Times.
Then I read that article. Holy shit it's bad.

>Hurr hurr Brettonia now rules the world.

>>164513012

It looks like my typical rome 2 game where anyone but Rome controls Rome.

>>164513052

Bretonnia only has Bretonnia and a little bit of Estalia.

the one that raised my eyebrow was the Beastmemes

>Poo in loo beastmen setting up a caste system and ruling a kingdom

>>164512712
Melee defense only works against melee attack to determine chance to be hit. Armor negates damage from both melee and ranged. Units with shield can block missiles coming from the front (35% chance to negate missile damage completely)

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>>164493626
>close

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>tfw some good old fashioned midnight fuckery let's you destroy both the enemy's armies
It's a good feel

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>>164511964
I didn't ask for this

>>164493626
Explain this right now

>>164512993
You hold your tongue you barbar. You tried to destroy our history, deny our royal heritage. Now we took over. Now we is kings

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>>164514306
I'm sorry milord, how could I forget.

Can we expect the models to be exportable/importable one day?
I would love to mod a Chaos or Ork invasion in Attila.

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>>164514476
>Kang and Sheid

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>>164514476
You call this white man nobility? LOL

>>164514476
Was this made in response to the black german soldiers in Battlefield?

Who is Boris Todbringer?

Is it better to use infantry with high armor or with shields for the battle line in TWW?

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>>164507275
>scroll down that whole page
>no porn
>mfw

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>>164514259
The AI can't into realism, I would keep most of my men hidden in the forest so even though the AI saw them move their they forgot they exist, and kept on forgetting after falling for my dumb trap the first time

Then I would use the horses to rotate their formation until their units could be shot and routed one by one until I ran out of ammo...

1/2

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>>164515556
I was then going to withdraw probably, happy with a strategic victory but I accidently got the horses to break their army into two halves so I quickly ran down the hill and destroyed the first half and their Generals, the other half pretty much ran away without fighting

>>164513273
More fleshing out that Ind has gotten in 30 years.
>Is it racist?

is there a mod that makes shogun 2 battles a bit slower? i dislike how archers just demolish everything before melee lines have even spotted each other

>>164513638
I was so busy staring at beast-men ass I didn't even see the human there

>>164515519
Look at the gallery for the Skaven page and the Tzeentch page. Cultist-Chan as well if you want literature.

>>164516438
>Look at the gallery for the Skaven page

I'm not gonna do that m8

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>>164515797
the slow motion mode

>>164514717
You might be able to do that already, I don't really know anything about modeling.
But, these threads here show you can at least export them, no idea if you could get them to work in Attilla.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?731740-3d-modelers-REDOWNLOAD-THE-UU3D-EMPIRE-TW-(Variant-Rigid)-PLUGIN-TO-WORK-WITH-WARHAMMER-MODELS
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?731618-Mod-Help-Request-Anyone-With-UU3D-Pro
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?731134-Ultimate-Unwrap3D-Support

>wood elf agents body-blocking my army in their forest

EPIC

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>>164516438
more

how will lizardmen play? I've never tried the TT, but they look amazing.

>>164517276
did I miss an announcement

>>164515797
shogun 2 is built around that exact type of game play senpai

>>164517445

He doesn't know about the tweet

No, I' just like the lizard / frog / reptile aesthetic and want to ride dinosuars and cast frog magic

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wew lads

>>164517708
what spell?

>>164492897

Red Skills for Franz.

Y/N?

I just can't seem to resist going for those infantry buffs, even though Karl keeps getting fucked by generic Empire Lords.

>>164517708
I AM THE NIGHT

>>164517708
Ahh, you merely adopted the dark.
I was born in it, molded by it.
I didn't see the light until I was a young man and by then it was nothing to me but
BLINDING!

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This looks much better. This is how history should have gone.

>>164517782
Is blue tree ever worth it on either lords or agents? They're completely trash. Skill tree in general seems like step back from Attila desu.

>>164517276
Sturdy Infantry - check
Annoying fast poisoned spearchuckers / pipeblowers - check
Dinosaurs as lord mount options - check
Best spellcasters in the setting - check
Pepes - check

Expect a low-ranged, slow army with quick guerilla support and M A G I C

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>>164518034
Sadly it was not just Rome vs Etruscans. There were so many factions there

>>164515470
Khazrak's prey.

>>164518161
>Lords
there's lightning strike and that's it

>Agents
there's some great buffs there, check them out! and agents get enough skillpoints to invest in yellow and blue

>>164517276
vampire counts but with javelin type units and no clump

>>164518187
Basically a mix of Chaos and W Elves?

>>164518161
Almost never for Lords, except reducing siege time and lightning strike
For Agent there are the experience bonus, that are fucking OP, and some others.

>>164517276
Heavy infantry that will hold almost any line.
Fast as fuck skinks that can harass with poisoned attacks.
Dinosaur cavalry and monsters, both on ground and air.
Lords riding dinosaurs.
And THE best mages in Warhammer.

>>164519029
Aren't the best mages High Elves?

>>164519207
Nah, Slann are better. Slann are the absolute best of the best, since they were made by the Ancients and so are even older than the oldest elves.

>>164519207
mage rankings
slann > elves > humans > greenskins

>>164519439
>humans>greenskins
kek

>>164519580
balthasar gelt > everyone else

>>164519439
>humans > greenskins

u take that bak before i 'eadbutt ya, ya stinkin umie

what would tournamnet rules look like in TWW? why doesnt TWW have army composition rules akin to the tabletop? cheese is too strong in this game.

>>164519627
foot of gork > the game

>>164519627
And yet he's DOGSHIT in the game.
What the fuck where they thinking?

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Want to play a total war game, never played one before. Suggestions?

Thinking of going for either Shogun 2 or Napoleon since I'm a fan of muskets, doesn't have to be one of those though. I enjoy difficulty and complexity so the TW game that has the most of those two is the one I'd like to play.

Pic unrelated but it's a real problem.

>>164520212
>magic suuuucks! Hey, check out this epic meme show where plebs restage the battle of Cannae!

>>164520212
probably not much at all since most of the starting lords compared to the ones we have now are quite unremarkable with no special anythings at all

it started with the G&G dlc, since khazrak and malagor aer also pretty unremarkable.

>>164520591
malagor is at least a little unique because you can make all units in his army super fucking fast.

>>164520538

Shogun 2 is a good starting point. If you want more muskets, grab the Fall of the Samurai. Way more guns in that DLC and it's standalone. Warhammer also fits your criteria if you want muskets, if you can tolerate the fantasy aspects of it. Dwarfs and humans both get gunpowder units, artillery and footmen alike.

>>164520591
>it started with the G&G dlc, since khazrak and malagor aer also pretty unremarkable.

Dude, Malagor is a Beastman spellcaster who can fl-

>>164497901
trooling

>>164520702

Are you talking about the 24% movement speed boost map wide? Because normal bray shamans get that too. I haven't played malagor in a long time though so I can't remember if he has a unique ability.

>>164520898
he also gets a unique upgrade at the very top that increases movement speed

>>164520886
no gelfs

Been playing a bit of TWW multiplayer, everyone brings meme builds.

So far all i have faced is Bret peasants, and VC with vlad and summoning spams.

What are effective builds to counter these? so far i have been using Gobbo and Chaos armies with varying success.

Was gonna try Empire, would a double lore of beasts be worth it for double doom flock?

>>164505217
Seem like the old world go against me
Everytime I sack a city I hear

STAB STAB STAB STAB>>164505217

>>164521137
effective counters are laying out ground rules before the battle starts so you dont cheese each other

Wait, so the vampire cunts can recruit from the mercenary pool for the same cost as regular recruiting from a province?

>>164520541
Lore of Metal is really weak.

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>>164520751
Okay, cheers mate.

>>164521234
I would like to try some lobby matches, like 3 v 3 empire vs GS.

tfw no friends like TW.

Holy shit, why is the Chaos campaign so terrible?

I'm meant to be a wave of destruction, crashing against the Old World and breaking it apart.

Instead, I feel like a really persistent raiding force. The horde infighting attrition makes 0 sense, especially when Beastmen (who are far more prone to that shit in the lore) do not suffer from it.

>>164520591

Yeah, but Balthasar is super shit. He has basically nothing unique about him, costs a ton and only has access to the weakest Lore in the game.

>>164522123
You can get to the "wave of destruction" stage but you need to play like a faggot and sack Norscan villages over and over again to level your lords/hordes up first so you get really cheap upkeep.

I like their roster but the Chaos campaign on legendary was one of the least fun experiences I've had in this series, and yes I did finish it.

best DeI/Rome 2 youtubers?

>>164522123
either spend 40 turns bringing norsica to heel, which is boring, or don't attack provincial capitals and just run around razing and sacking the minor villages. You'll get so much dosh and will spread so much corruption and weaken everybody so much so quickly

>>164515797
Get a time machine, go to feudal Japan, show them what a shield is.

>>164522506
I always wondered why they used so few shields.

>>164522652
I feel like somebody asks this question every single day

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Boris Todbringer, count elector of Middenland, marches at the head of an army through the Drakwald. There have been reports of bands of beastmen raiding through the area, and there are rumours that the villages of the Wasteland were razed, it's houses put to the torch and it's inhabitants massacred.

heeeeeey guys it's pixelated apollo here

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>>164522759
Alas, it would seem he is not alone. Cries are heard from further down the line, as the soldiers begin to spot the horde of beastmen, all too aware of their trespass.

How did they get so close without alarming the scouts?

>>164505237
+ chinks mad about the cancelled translation

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>>164522936
The beastmen charge, breaking the middenlander's formations, as gors run down the hill and harpies fall from above.

>>164522936
Probably asked Vlad to spare some of his tactical genius for the day

>>164522652
because shields are for pussies who probably fuck their wives for purposes other than procreation

>>164505567
And it's because of the mini-campaigns which have, so far, all been shit.

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>>164523110
Todbringer doesn't give any orders to his troubled soldiers, however. Once he spots the tactical genius that managed to lay this ambush, his remaining eye fills with anger, and he charges ahead!

Khazrik is nothing but eager to respond to the challenge. He still remembers the pain of Todbringer's steel on his face.

>>164521326
I was quoting what I think was running through GW's minds when designing the game.

>>164523225
what is even the appeal of them? would just allowing there to be multiple factions make it more fun? I'd much rather the minicampaing be a series of 4-5 quest battles that tell the story

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>>164523319
Damn it, I mistyped Khazrak.

With Middenland's lines completely fractured by the sudden charge, the advantage is for the beastmen, who revel in the opportunity to slay the hated uncloven ones.

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>>164523498
One of Middenland's soldiers decides that when in an unexpected situation, he should do the unexpected. He dances.

The minotaurs are not amused.

>>164523468
More factions for the Beastmen campaign? No. Because your only options would be

>Beastmen
>The single Greenskin faction
>One of the big-ass human factions

Wood Elf is a maybe, since you could have
>Wood Elf/Tree Hitler
>A Bretonnian faction
>Mousillon
>Dwarfs
>Greenskins

But just a series of quest battles might not work either because some people would prefer to build their own army for the battles instead of being handed one.

>>164523764
Then make it a serie of objectives that unlock quest battles and set up events.

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>>164523735
Todbringer's crossbowmen try to make some distance, salvage whatever they can of the situation. But the beastmen archers put a quick end to that thought.

Private Hans' last thoughts are of where the hell are the scouts as an arrow lodges itself on his neck.

im surprised beastlords allow ungor to be cowardly archers. you'd think they would just kill any ungor who wanted to be an archer

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>>164524000
If it's any consolation for Hans, they didn't do much better.

>>164524121
Maybe they just think they're so worthless you might as well give them a bow and tell them to do what comes naturally.

What new Lords can we expect?

Also I suppose we're done on VC Lords? So no Isabella or Abhorash?

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>>164524232
The Gorebull decides to end Boris' duel prematurely. Khazrak makes a mental note of sawing off his horns later for daring to think of stealing his prey.