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c8 edition

had their rougery ended >>163374748

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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First for my dick.
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Name one enemy worse than the giant wizard dogs in Farron.
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>>163439901
jailers, because lmfao fuck your hp
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>>163439901
Pontiff Watchdogs?

Or the "giant Farron dogs" that jump 30 feet in the air and have grab attacks?
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>>163440015
The ones that attempt to bludgeon you with trees and shoot wisps at you while you attempt to trudge through the swamp.
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>>163440076
Oh. Dude they're easy as fuck. Literally roll forward and tap R1: the enemy.

Christ they're one of the simplest enemies in the game.
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>>163439970
>being an invader in the dungeon and ambushing co-opers in the room with a million jailers walking around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGp9P6QvMjY
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>>163439970
Jailers only effect your HP if they have line of site. You can also knock them down to stop it. They are like a babbby-mode version of the frenzy dolls in BB.
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>>163440370
I usually kill them before they can do anything it's only the one spot where there's around seven of them where one mistake is instant death fuck that.
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>watching a phantom run to that bridge in the Cathedral of the deep and instantly get Force'd off by the invader
>Then the host instantly does the exact same
Sure do love being a blade of the blue sentinels
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>>163439901
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>>163440647
>That fucking corpse that screams when you pick up the item its holding and calls all the jailers over
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>>163440647
It's not hard in the least. Just draw them in with a bow. Stand around a corner, and spam knock downs on any that walk around the corner.
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>>163440812
>Using a bow
Yaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwn
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>>163440884
I don't need one, but you are clearly below my level.
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>Pontiff enters the second stage
>that glorious theme change
How can one boss be so based?
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how is he ?
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PvE: DaS 1 > DaS 3 > DaS 2
PvP: DaS 3 > DaS 2 ≈ DaS 1
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>tfw 3 days until christmas
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>>163440956
Using a bow is the hallmark of shit players.
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>>163441067
sounds like it is perfect for you then
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>>163441020
The only good thing about DS1's pve is interconnectivity of the first half. DS3 does individual level design, boss design, enemy design and difficulty curve much better.
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>>163440956
Why do you feel the need to shit up threads with your tripfagging autism?
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Post cute
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>>163441113
Youre the one who suggested using it which implies that you use bows. Which makes you a shit player.
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>>163441189
>>163440976
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Anyone on PC want to drop me an Onyx Sword?
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>>163440976
pretty jubilant
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>>163441189
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>>163441282
Here you go.
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>>163440812
That's boring I believe you can affect them with alluring skulls and abuse the hell out of that and get free hits/backstabs. When they brand you your absorption is knocked down, you slow roll, you heal less and if you slow roll away from them or towards them their downwards slam with their brand will instantly kill you, plus when you're in the clear you don't get your god damn hp back. Those enemies are pretty friggin' cheap man.
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>>163441020
DaS2 is dead last in every category, PvP included.

>>163441159
No U

>>163441228
I suggested using it because you are a bad player, else you would not be complaining about or supporting someone complaining about such an easy encounter. Git gud.
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>>163441282
Yeah, this guy.
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>>163441361
Yeah nice to know
I don't browse this place often but I've seen you a few times in /bbg/, and your still a real attention whore here too.
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>>163441282
Only if you show me your boypucci
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>>163441361
>I suggested using it because you are a bad player, else you would not be complaining about or supporting someone complaining about such an easy encounter. Git gud
Im not complaining about anything or supporting any complaints. Im just stating that bows are a shit weapon used by terrible players such as yourself.
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Patch when?
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>>163439901
>giant wizard dogs

It took me entirely too long to figure out you meant the Elder Ghru.

Hint: FROM places them right next to giant fires for a reason. Kite them next to one and bait them in to any of their ridiculously long attack animations and they burn to death before they can even complete it.
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>>163441407
Why does Wilhelm have such a small head
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>>163441357
>When they brand you your absorption is knocked down
Why are you getting hit by that shit more than once ever. Getting hit by it the first time is excusable since it comes out rather quick, and you don't know to expect it if you are playing blind. However, once you have seen it, you should never get touched by it again.

They aren't cheap at all. They just punish you for playing like a 'tard. They can't even compare to the frenzy dolls.

>>163441460
>(you)

>>163441497
>It keeps happening
KEK
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>>163441189
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Why are all tripfags worthless shitposters?
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>>163441628
They look for attention, any kind of it
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>>163441551
I'll just filter you so I don't have to encounter your autism inside or outside /vg/
this is my very last (you) I'll be giving you, don't spend it all in one place
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>>163441361
>>163441551

I love you Lucy.
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>>163439901
Literally every dog in dark souls ever.
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>>163441551
Just because I see something once does not mean I can just magically dodge it all the time I have to see it multiple or many times even before I can really combat them. Are you calling me a fucking retard?
What the fucking hell is wrong with you?
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>>163441723
>Just because I see something once does not mean I can just magically dodge it all the time

Git Gud. am not saying this applies to everything equally, but in the case of the branding after you have seen it once you should be able to dodge it virtually 100% of the time. It has shit range, you know how dangerous it is, and you should be spamming knockdowns on them anyway.

>>163441671
>(you)

>>163441628
No anon, you are the shitposters.

>>163441672
I love me too.
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>>163441628
Why do you fucking mongoloids still not understand that it's literally as simple as just filtering their trip?
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>>163441896
I don't know what the hell you're on about. You do this all the time, passive aggressiveness bollocks. Suck a fat one and choke on it man, you're a shitter.
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Pls no fighto. Love each other desu.
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>>163442220
Fuck you.
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>people still responding to luci in 2016
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>>163442220
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>>163442220
No you fucking stink. People don't work that way.
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>>163442292
No
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>>163441532

Are you HPV?
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Thinking of doing a Miracle run of DS3.
Any hints or tips?
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>>163442558
Get a Raw ASS. If not that is Dragonslayer's still a decent weapon?
don't bother with it if it isn't 'cos miracles are shit, like all magic in this game.
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To clarify. The Frenzy Dolls, could lower your health just by looking at you, apply frenzy on top of it, and grab you as well. Nothing you could do would stop it. Your Frenzy meter would keep filling even after they died.

The best way to deal with them was to just accept that Frenzy was going to pop, stun lock them to death, wait for frenzy to activate, heal twice, then move on to the next one.

The jailers are push overs compared to that and perfectly fair.

>>163442220
This is all I want. To get along and talk about the games.

>>163441954
If you actually wanted to filter me, you would have hidden stubs. You are just looking to shit post.

>>163442558
Tip: Don't. Fai is pretty crap in DaS3.
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Souls plushies when?
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Will we ever get a souls game with decent netcode?
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>>163442512

Who or what is HPV?
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>>163442435
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>>163442820

Human Papilloma Virus
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>>163439578
Guys I couldn't beat dark lord nito so I backed out and traveled elsewhere thinking I had another area to go, I was planning on progressing that way and leveling up at the same time before I went back to him. Is there another area and boss or is everything else only available after I beat him? I can't be bothered to run through all that dark area right now just to get destroyed by him. Everyone gave advice on him but it either didn't work for me or it was possible due to items/stats etc.

I started with boodborne and it has become my favorite game alongside all the others but I can't say I've enjoyed any of dark souls 1. Rvry single area is fucking irritating and non of the game is remotely straight forward.
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>>163442758
That creature was so random. I still remember the reaction I got when i first saw it. A literal wtf. It didn't fit at all with the game imo.
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>>163443017
>doesn't appreciate the intricacies of DS1's connected world
know your place and don't enter sacred grounds
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>>163443169
I appreciate the connected world of bloodborne ten times more.
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>>163442919
Don't push me...
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>>163443241
Bloodborne's world is not nearly as interconnected as DS1's
Far from it
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>>163443316
DS1's world is not nearly as interconnected as my cock is about to be with your asshole.
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>>163443316
Seems like it is to me. Listen I love that about these games but that's got nothing to do with my complaint. I don't have a problem with the enemies (besides nito so far) my problem is that almost nothing is straight forward like souls 2, 3 and bloodborne. I love a challenge but it just seems that this game acts like a dick just for the sake of it. Everything is conveniently annoying, for example I fight all bosses on my own and the one time I decide fuck it i'll spawn someone for nito, I cant and now I have to travel back to the main fire (which I cant light for some fucking reason) and have to redo that pitch black area which is fucking stupid.
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>>163443017
You can go to the area below firelink, the area to the left of the first anor londo bonfire, or where the ceaseless discharge was at.
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>>162995898

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ykFRschsOg
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>>163443707
That's just one example of many since this first run of souls 1 began and there's never a straight forward area after something annoying like blight town for example. I want my games to be hard, I want to redo bosses when they destroy me but I don't want the entire game to be haha fuck you: the puzzle
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>>163443579
c-cute!
>>163443707
how are you having trouble with fucking neato?
Just dodge when he starts REEEEEEEing and ignore the skeletons, they get killed by his AoE anyways
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>>163443707
>Main fire which you can't light for some reason
1. You can become human at any bonfire
2. Check out the firekeeper homie
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>>163443743
I completely forgot about the 'lava area' as it does a cutscene opening the doors where the onion man was sitting so I headed straight there. Oh yea, the orange gate by anor londo too. Thanks m8
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>>163443253
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>>163443579
I need to stop laughing at dumbass shit
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>>163444142
I chuckled.
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>>163443892
I don't know how you all find him so easy? The skeletons are constantly hitting me while I avoid him and I almost never get a chance to heal without getting hit in the back. I have slightly wasted stats on stamina so I could wear my full set of chainmail but I can't even have the fast roll with the boots on. How the fuck do people have heavy armor on this game? NG+ or do you just accept the fact that you roll slow? I've never done a NG+ before or pvp so I have no idea.
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>>163444142
Fine
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>>163444305
Endurance is also your vitality in this game, people using heavy armor use Havel's ring most of the time and accept their mid rolls

DS1 is a lot less like the other games and treat is as so.

Also if your REALLY having a bad time with neato just cop out and get a blessed/fire weapon and kill him in like 6 hits
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>>163444305
Just stay near the front of the room to avoid aggroing the Giant skellies. Use your normal weapons to get the other ones low on health, then back stab them with a divine weapon so they stay dead.

Then all you have to worry about is the big boner, which is easy to beat when it is standing alone.
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>>163444419
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Why is parrying so satisfying in DaS3? Is it the "donk!" sound effect?
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>>163444540
That sounds easy to me but I can't make a divine weapon right now, well last time I played it and I can't remember why. I got close to beating him running amongst all of the skeletons and I'll be fine however I do it after another area and leveling up a few times etc. He's the only hard boss I've found so far, i'm kind of disappointed in that aspect.
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>>163444757
Just get the club from the same room as havel's armor and downgrade it once or farm for a silver knight spear.
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>>163443707
DaS's areas you can't walk to and from without bonfire warping:
A few boss rooms
DLC
Painted world

BB's areas you can't walk to and from without lanterns:
Hunter's dream
Rom's boss room
Cainhurst
Lecture building
Nightmare Frontier
DLC
Mensis
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PvE > PvP
Prove me wrong
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>>163442558
if you only level Faith and ATT and use Yorshka's chime and use all the damage boosting rings, your damage will be insane and most bossfights won't last very long. try to stay in melee range all the time, that way lightning spears will do much more damage and you'll be able to use lightning stake which is also pretty good, it seems to be a bit slower though
you can kill DA with lightning miracles, but it takes a lot of time time, it's better to do the entire fight with WotG, you'll need to bait the shield slam/axe swipe combo and cast during the swipe while walking under the axe, Falling Bolt and phase transition are good openings too
you can kill NK with Dorhty's Gnawing, if you stay away he'll just slowly walk towards you and rarely attack, but you can use it in melee range if you don't want to cheese him, you can bait the multiple stab combo, roll into the first stab to provoke the second one and then walk around it, it has longer recovery and it's a very good opening
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>>163444927
Fair enough I see your pint. I appreciate how it's all connected, it's just been an annoying experience more than anything else for me. I completed bloodborne and declared it my favourite game of all time and I fucking hate 99% of new games. Souls 2 and 3 were great too but not as good. I bought a ps3 so i'm waiting to finish souls 1 before I pop demon souls in and I've never seen a second of gameplay for it so I'm quite excited.

Is it just as tedious as souls 1? worse lol?
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>>163444927
>Painted world
False. You get in via the painting. You get out by dropping down behind our pure waifu, Prissy-chan. No teleporting needed.

>>163445053
You're wrong. Prove me wrong about you being wrong.
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>>163445170
Dark Souls 1 is the black sheep of the bunch in that the rest are very linear
Basically that translates to DS1 is the best and ur a fckn casual
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If I found a bug, who do I report it to?
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>>163445236
me
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>>163445170
>pint

This fucking keyboard, not a mistake on my part ;/
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>>163445196
You can't have one without the other. PvE is superior.
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What's that red cloak I've seen some people use? not lothric knight
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>>163445340
Slave knight?
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>>163445053

I can't. PvP is only a good excuse to meet your pcfcbfs.
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>>163445227
You probably spawn npcs for help on bosses, I've NEVER done it once on any of these games. The enemies aren't hard on ds1, in fact the bosses have been easy as fuck besides nito. The terrain is just tedious you mong.
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>>163445279
Basically there's a corner you can get stuck in in the catacombs in 3, and if you try to jump out of it you just fall in place until the game kills you
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>>163445430
It's a joke, chill out you sperg
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>>163445374
no big red cloak with no pattern
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>>163445458
There are many spots like that, there's one in firelink even
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>>163445501
Well I know what 'hardcore le 1v1 me' souls fans are like. Most people here seem cool though. My bad.
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>>163445170
https://youtu.be/LHVgz-W3uoI?t=58m33s
git fucking gud
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>>163445538
Sellsword Armor?
Cathedral Knight Armor?
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>>163445337
You can have one without the other though. You can play offline to avoid PvP, or you can play in the arena and avoid any more PvE.
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>>163445727
huh. it might be sellsword. Though its not as red as I remember
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>>163445718

>no totg fog gate skip

Is he even trying?
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>>163445538
Drakeblood has a red cape.
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>>163445538
Undead Legion.
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What's the best way to CE certain items into the game?
I want to put in the covenant miracles in my miracles run.
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>>163443253
Why, what are you going to do? Fight him?
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how's my first webm
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>>163445868
>post almost half a year old run
>this guy complains
Kahmul does that skip (and others) in his current world record, which is 17sec faster than the one I posted
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>>163442758
If they're Priscilla fuckplushies then yes, otherwise no.
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>>163446128
*backstabs u*
psssh... nothing personell kid
*teleports*
big mistake...
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>>163446128

You look like ippiki 2.0.
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>>163446503
i'm more handsome irl ;)
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>>163446128
Could have been good if it depicted a better game.
Any game, really.
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>>163446610

Do you have a bf?
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>>163446753
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>>163446692
At least it's not DaS II
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>Dark Souls 3 isn't on sale
Never thought 2015 Steam Winter Sale could be even more terrible, DS3 was even on sale during Fall or Halloween IIRC, oh well.
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>>163446913
>being still mad that miyazaki made a worse game than DaS2
Look at this salty babby and laugh.
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>>163447060
Don't worry' 2016's sale will be good
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>>163447094
t.avant redditor and PvP enthusiast Scott "damnnohtml" jund
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>>163447869
is it just me or do her eyes look like primordial serpent eyes?
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>>163448108

They're just Dragon Eyes. She also seems to have eye whites that the Serpents don't have.
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>>163448108
nah, not just you
because it's literally eyes of primordial serpents
she's a crossbreed between a primordial serpent and human or god, it seems
this also explains why the fuck she needs a goddamn dark soul
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Can someone post a list of king's field references in DS2?
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>>163449821

Have this: https://imgur.com/a/pP7cd

It's not just DaS2, but I think most of it is.
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>>163448517
WHAT EVEN IS A DARK SOUL
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>>163441020
>DS3 PvP is better than DS2

Only because it's more active. Just wait a year until the meta is all sorted out and the two games are closer in activity levels and you're gonna get real bored of arena rollspamming gank squad invasions in DS3 really fast.
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What the hell is this thing after undead dragon in Ariamis, on top of the bridge? It isn't targetable and doesn't react to my hits
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>>163440956
>NOT YOUR OPINION, MY OPINION
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>>163450854

Try jumping attack.
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>>163450854
It's the corpse of the dragon left over. You killed only the top half of its body, the rest is still undead, just without a brain.
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>>163450854
>>163450925
He's in for a surprise :^)
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>>163450925
you could've just told me instead of spooking the SHIT out of me
did i break the death animation?
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Dark Souls should never have allowed people to roll twice in row without getting punished in-game for it. 2 hit boss attacks should have required both blocking and rolling, and PvP shouldn't have become a rollspam fest where any attack can be dodged as long as you have some stamina.
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>>163439578
>rougery
>carthus rogue
why are so many people dylsexic?
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>>163447060
50% for the standalone version and 35% for the deluxe edition

I don't know if I should buy it or wait to see if it will get a better discount
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>>163451223
>dylsexic
>dyslexic*
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>>163446692
ds1 is actually pretty good imho
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>>163451223
>no making a carthus rogue that applies carthus rouge to his weapons
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>>163450854
don't worry, you'll see more lately. twerking dragonbutt bloomhell is one of the most memorable areas in the series
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>>163451394
that's the joke
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>>163449821
I don't know the king's field references but there's a fuckton of Armored Core references in the games:

>Emerald Herald = Your Operator
>Pursuer = Color-inverted Nine Ball
>Ornstein = Ibris Ornstein
>Patches = Patch the Good Luck
>Leonhard = Leonhardt
>Reitherpallash (BB) = Wynne D. Fanchion's AC

These are just what I can remember off the top of my head. I know that there are a lot more, especially with more obscure NPCs and item descriptions.
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>>163447094
>Miyazaki made a worse game than DS2 before DS2 existed

Seriously DS2 is brilliant compared to Armored Core 4/For Answer.
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Just watched a speedrun of DS1 all bosses.

Why are the DS3 areas so boring compared to the ones in DS1?
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>get invaded in das1
>guy gets a laggy backstab with an estoc
>oneshots me
is that normal?
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Is white dragon breath any good or should I just get the big magic sword?
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>>163453085
MLGS is a pretty good GS
WDB is shit to hit with and has meh damage, looks cool though
I'd say MLGS if you got the stats for it/going to those stats
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>>163452970
Despite the Estoc's Critical modifier only being listed as 100, Thrusting Swords and Daggers have inherent critical bonuses, so an Estoc will still get more damage on a backstab or riposte compared to another weapon class with the same AR. If they had the hornet ring or you're a vitlet, that sounds plausible.
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>>163452970
That's going to be at least 80% of your pvp fights. The rest are all script kiddies and rarely you run in to actual scrubs or pve people.
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>>163452838
Because DS1 was made by a struggling indie developer who didn't have anyone looking over their shoulder, and DS3 was made by a brand new company with a ton of hired / outsourced labor to make a generic AAA title.

The two companies just happen to share the same name, but ~95% of the employees were completely different.
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>>163452970
>it's his only fucking game
>4 friends
literally lmao @ that estocfag
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>>163453253
Well that explains a few things
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>>163453253
So DeS, Ds1 and BB all flukes? Should be expect trash from FROMsoft for their next 3 projects?
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>>163453310
What's wrong with 4 friends?
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>>163452970
There are only 2 mechanics in dark souls 1. Riposte/Backstab and poise. Those two mechanics are so dominant that literally nothing else in the game is worth optimizing for.

Either go 50% with havel's ring and wolf ring and trade damage in giants/havel's armor

Or go 25% with DWGR and use rapier/estoc/bandit knife and lagstab.

Anything between those extremes is going to get wrecked. DS1 was not designed for pvp, and they didn't think that people would legitimately min-max their SL and invade other players like that.
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>>163450742

I doubt it. As long as you stick to low-mid level invasions you almost never run into pro gank squads in the first place, just solo hosts with way of the blue and co-opers. Rarely if ever get seeded, too, it's fantastic.

I was discussing this with some other anon just the other day as well, and we both agreed that the pro gank squad thing will likely drop off entirely after the kiddies get bored of it. Most people just solo the game or play with friends, the ones who are out to abuse the system to the maximum don't last that long. If I were to guess I'd say it's because it is the opposite in many ways of invasions: when you win it feels empty and easy and if you lose while having such an overwhelming advantage it must be infuriating. As an invader if I beat a ganking host it's incredibly satisfying and fulfilling and if I lose to a bunch of bullshit I usually just laugh because every time I'll at least fuck with them a significant amount before running out of estus and finally dying, and I'm pro at playing around any sort of parrying shenanigans so I never get one-shotted.
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>>163452970

Sounds like a twink.
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is it possible to enjoy dark souls 1 graphically if you have only played 3
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>>163453617
what's a twink
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>>163453705

Low level character with high level gear.
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>>163453783
Oh, yeah, undead burg and parish are fucking full of those
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>>163451201
Lmfao, not him but they were supposed to be enemies I think but they scrapped them
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>>163440958
Nothing beats Burnt Ivory King on baseness
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>>163453496
DS1 wasn't even designed for pve. Poise and backstabbing make it dumb as shit.
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>>163454157
ABSOLUTELY THIS
THAT HARP
THAT CHOIR
AHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>163454119
it's the bottom half of that undead dragon i think
it snaps in half chasing you
too bad the camera just zooms so far in you can't even seen it
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>>163454157
>ice land
>jump down to old chaos
>welcome to hell
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can aanyone drop me a pure bladestone?
i am europoor
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>>163454250
>THAT HARP

>yfw it's the bed of chaos harp
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>>163454456
>was the king
>also the first line of defense
>didn't hide behind his soldiers like most kings
>made a shard of manus his bitch
A L P H A
L
P
H
A
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>>163454157
Ivory is all presentation, no depth. His moveset is pathetic and his animations are bad. He has like what, 3 moves?
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>>163453612
Soon nothing will be left but "pro" players and gank squads. Everyone else will play solo offline (because they don't PvP and have no reason to go online) or will only play with friends if they are new.

3 suffers from the issue that the better you are at the game, the worse it becomes and when you get invasions an duels at the frequency you get them in the other games, we'll have reached the moment where you can't excuse activity as the reason it's better.

3's PvP sucks compared to the rest of the series because it never ends.
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Am I a noob bc I need help with wolnir
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>>163453421
>>163453323
Demon Souls being a good game was a bit of a fluke. It was a spark of creativity that hasn't really been recaptured since, only copied/referenced. It was a B-tier title that happened to have A-tier creativity and uniqueness, sort of like the first assassin's creed or metal gear.

Dark Souls being a /popular/ game was a fluke. Dark Souls had a lot of problems but it was TOTALLY unexpected that it took off like it did. Bandai Namco picked up From so that they could stop Armored Core's competition against the gundam games by making them more multiplayer-focused. Dark Souls was not expected to be a bigger seller than Demon Souls, and that was one of the reasons they went multi-platform with it, because they didn't expect it to be able to compete on just the PS3. From didn't even do much of the PC porting, a lot of that was outsourced off of the 360 version of the game.

Bloodborne was ENTIRELY intentional. It had literally no budget cap and no release deadline, and Sony did polishing work with their own developers on the game. They even derailed DS2's development (which is why DS2 took 3.5 years to make and looks nothing like the demos) and poached devs over to bloodborne. It had a massive marketing budget and they were focused on Selling PS4s, rather than profit margins. This means they NEEDED a 9/10 or 10/10 "must play" game, instead of just a high selling 7/10 game.

After bloodborne the company was bought by Kadokawa, who fired half of the original staff and hired ~100 new people. Dark Souls 3 is the first game made by those people. Most of DS1/BB team went on to upper management, like Miyazaki, and the next 3 games will be the first with this new strategy. Most of DS3's problems come from the fact that it still has Bandai Namco's shitty development cycle, marketing, demands, and deadlines attached to it, without any of the crutches/support that Sony gave them.
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>>163453496
DS1 pvp would have actually been decent if it wasnt for how the backstab works. The fact that it instantly locks you in place during the animation and it being so easy to land in lag makes it way too good. At least poise is an intended mechanic of the game. Lagstabs are just pure bullshit.
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>>163454856
DaS 1's intended PvP has weapons with infinite combos from full HP
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i don't want to fight her /dsg/
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>>163454989
You can toggle escape those.
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>>163453624
No.

Dark Souls 1 looks like a ~2006 release title for the PS3 or a late PS2 title at its best, and if you're on PC, it runs like absolute dogshit with no optimization.

But you can tell that they tried to make the areas look as pretty as possible without knowing how graphics works. But there are some areas (Lost Izalith, Demon Ruins) that could easily end up in a top 10 list for worst level graphics of its generation.
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>>163455052
Toggle escape isn't an intended mechanic, that's the thing anon. Lagstabs are part of its PvP like toggle is.
DaS 1 has no decent PvP without exploits
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>>163455024
Try licking her feet.
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Dont forget!
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>>163454748
Yes, he's one of the easiest bosses in the game.
Just attack his arms and move away when it looks like he's starting to attack.
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>>163455024

Hurry home...
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>>163455143
Lagstabs are the only aspect that completely ruin it tho. If lagstabs were gone the other stuff would be more tolerable.
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>>163454759
Basically, From Software had a massive overhaul/regime change in 2006 when they were near bankruptcy, and then again in 2014/2015 when they were bought by Kadokawa.

Games made before 2005, between 2006-2014, and 2015+ were basically made by entirely different people, just with some of the same upper management.
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>>163455261
those look like my grandma's 60 year old feet
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>>163442717
>I-I just want to talk about the games I s-swear !
>Huurr Duurrr I'm the best, no one is better than me
>everybody but me is a shitter hhhuurrrr
>PS4>>>>>everything
>muh cheaters !
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>>163455439

Then tell your grandmother she has very nice feet.
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How do miracles even work? If they rely on gods, what gods do characters call to? Why would they even respond?
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>>163455276
They're there because as the name says, lag happens. The only way to remove them would be by having DaS PvP LAN only.

Everything that makes DaS's PvP interesting are backstab games. Try PvPing against a katana in Anor londo's elevator
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>>163455787

Probably the Lord Soul of Light, which gave them the power.
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>>163454748
Do you still need help with Vape Lord?
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>>163455787
I believe that both magic and miracles are just variations on types of magic, which are just manifestations of the power of souls a person acquires. Magic is about channeling other souls, miracles is about drawing on the power of your own. But the two are very similar. It's referenced a lot that miracles are often just magic, but often given "lofty" sources and ideals to manipulate others. Miracle users are actually quite corrupt in souls games.

Pyromancy comes from the Witch of Izalith, who created the flame of chaos as an attempt to copy the First Flame.
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>>163455590
>foot fetishism

I don't get it. Never have. I mean its not like feet are particularly unattractive, but they're not attractive either. Its just an extremely non-sexual body part for me. It's like hands, they're just there.

Tell me, why do you like feet so much?
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>>163454157
What I expected:
>big dude in armor

What I got:
>WWE VS. RAW OLD CHAOS SMACKDOWN FEATURING 50 Loyce souls :^)
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>>163456656
Isn't pyromancy just a corruption of Fire sorcery once wielded by the Witch of Izalith? I'm pretty sure Quelana just dumbed it down so that retard pygmy humans could understand it better.
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>>163456687
it's fetishes dude, who the fuck gets them
vaginas are fucking gross too if you think about them
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>>163454581
IDK WHY I NEVER REALIZED BEFORE
THANK YOU
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>>163456656
Evidence supporting this:
>Divine infusion does magic damage
>Miracles use resonance. Magic uses souls. Hexes use "Resonant Souls".
>All the staffs/talismans that can cast magic/miracles
>Petrus, Paladin Leeroy, Licia of Lindelt

>>163456954
Yes, that is what I was referring to. That fire sorcery was created to copy the first flame, though, but became corrupted into a chaotic weapon.
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>>163456656
>Miracle users are actually quite corrupt in souls games.
not my literal white knights who always link the flame :^)
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You were born a child of dragons, what could you possibly fear?
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>>163457285
My beloved Ocelotte
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>>163457192
>>163456656
>Magic is its own damage class, but faith casts lightning damage.

All of this implies that in the souls universe, Magic is -magic-, and hexes or miracles are just different kinds of magic that do slightly different kinds of damage, but they all derive from the same source (souls) and the differences are just the way it manifests.
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>>163457285
foot fetishists
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>>163457285
Being smashed in to pulp by my piece of shit retard dad.
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>>163457285
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>>163457285
Bleef Build/Faith Build
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>>163457285
OCELOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTEEEEE
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>>163457007
Liking vagines and tits and asses is something primal in us men. Foots? It's strange man, but idk, fetishes are fetishes.
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>>163457835
Some people don't like vaginas, tits or asses either. You can probably call them a very common fetish.
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>>163454581
how the fuck do you guys notice that shit, i can hardly ever remember tracks outside the bossfight. even for bossfights or themes i really like
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>>163457915
If you are not gay, and you tell me you don't like tits, pussy or asses, then.... What the fuck?
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>>163457285
footprints/throwing daggers/arrows
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>>163457285
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Most hype moment in the franchise
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Why do the manikins in DS2 lack heads?
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how the fuck is fextralife wiki always first result
who uses that fucking shit
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>>163458175
>can't 2 hand cast spells for more damage with slower cast to throw people off
From please, where is the love for casters?
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>>163458419
>Manikin Mask
>Mask of the manikins of Harvest Valley.
>A fickle queen gave them life, and tore off
their faces. How else could she forgive
those who dared gaze upon her?
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>>163458554
Does tearing their faces off mean tearing their heads off though? I thought the point of the manikin mask was because they had no face.

Even the trailers show manikins with heads.
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>>163458625
>DaS2
>lore
lmao
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>>163458232
Gehrman revealed to be final boss.
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>>163458232
Im am still so fucking mad that sword isnt in DS3. For what fucking purpose from? Thats the best looking longsword in this entire fucking franchise.
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>>163458738
It'll be there for the third DLC
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>>163458449
Kekstralife wiki probably pays for the optimization or something.
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>>163458795
When does that come out anyways?
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>>163458680
>Cripple stands up from his wheelchair
>*unsheathes scythe*

>Old one corpse gives birth right in front of you
>Autismo bb goes ape shit 3 seconds later

>Dead qt in the clocktower
>"A corpse... should be left well alone"

Why is bb so based?
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>>163458006
I download all my favorite soundtracks anon
I use alot of them for workout music, something about loud choirs gets my blood pumping
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>>163459337
https://youtu.be/TRNyWNw0jbw
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>>163459737
>Tonight we dine on Hunter meat.
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You know, I don't think there's a single area in Dark Souls 2's base game that I actually enjoyed.

Lost Bastille is honestly that only place that doesn't feel like a chore or a snoozefest, but it's still not even fun in my opinion.
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>>163461454
I really enjoyed Shulva and Loyce
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>>163461580
"base game"
>>
HOLY FUCK
after the absolute horror of farming wolfgrass I've lost all confidence in autosummon covenants, but jesus, constant action as an aldritch faithful.
hope darkmoon won't turn out to be another farmfest
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>>163461580
>base game

I finished the first DLC and enjoyed it, but am having to slog back through the game since Steam doesn't have cloud saves for DS2 and I forgot to backup my save when I reformatted my drive.
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>>163461868
>hope darkmoon won't turn out to be another farmfest
I'm sorry.
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>>163461868
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>>163461868
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>>163461861
>>163461932
sorry can't read
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>>163461454
At least it has decent bosses- oh wait...

>muh pvp
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>playing character called SMASHMAN
>get Stronkman on my team
It was destiny but I sat it out because it was 3v2
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>>163462039
>>163461973
>>163461935
FUCK
man, they should've made those covenants work with the red eye orb
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>>163462039
I found the crystal rapier too weak to actually use. I wound up offhanding it and using an unbuffed greatsword to 3hko them
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>>163462742
They should have just made that people who are using darkmoon covenant or blue knight covenant also gets bluebros to help them without switching to way of the blue
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>>163463087
>want to use raw Rapier instead of raw ASS
>rapier's attack is about 2/3rds of ASS'

Holy fuck, is there something I'm missing here? The rapier seems horrifically weak.
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>>163463325
Rapiers are nerfed to fuckall unless you're trying for crits and harassment.
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>>163463325

Don't rapiers attack faster?
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>>163463616
If they do it's unnoticably slight. ASS is fast as fuck.

>>163463436
Fuck.
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>>163458625
they are hollow animated suits. the mask IS their face. or they decided to go with that as an excuse to not use the mask on the enemy and make them even less threatening after seeing the abortion that it was
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>>163463713
>ASS is fast as fuck.

Well that's DaS3 straight swords for you. Incredibly OP.
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>>163459615
I use alot of them for workout music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeimE8Wz6e4
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>this will never become a boss fight or a mini-boss
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Ahaha oh wow. I just had an enemy not fight because his teammate used CCS. He even pointed for us to gank the other guy.
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>>163458625
>from took down the original mask idea because of copyright reasons
>made a new mask all together
>decided it wasn't intimidating enough and removed the head all together
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>>163463058
nobody actually uses it, numbnuts. it's only for the discovery boost
>>163461932
>>163461861
it's base game in sotfs :^)
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>>163463942
They recommend having 2 though.
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>>163463886
Where did this come from? Holy fuck, when can we fight cavaliers or ride on horses? Chariot and Nameless don't count. I want to fight a horseman boss.
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>>163463996
for when you kill you equip
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>>163463996
is there a x2 im not aware of?
>>163463929
>copyright reasons
what was the conflict?
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Would you summon a witcher?
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>>163455207
>working on Christmas Eve
>visiting family Christmas day
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>>163455207
What's /DSG/?
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>>163464691
Would you summon a Gryffindor?
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>>163464842
/dsg/ with caps like the rest of the card
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>>163464691
Yes
>>163464924
No
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>>163457835
>>163456687

Feet have a ton of nerve endings in them, like getting your feet tickled. It makes sense.
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Is the Dark Souls 3 + Season Pass worth it at 55 ameribucks?

I haven't picked it up yet because while I enjoyed Dark Souls 1 quite a bit, I never finished Dark Souls 2 because it was a chore to play and I was afraid 3 was more of the same. Am i wrong?
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>>163455207
>>163464771

Same. It's common to spend time with your family this time of winter over here.
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>>163464771
A real man never chooses the bed.
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Is DS3 season pass/dlc worth it?

Getting DS3 on this winter sale but I dont know about getting the Deluxe edition. Quite pricy here. I'm on budget.
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>>163459195
That's just horrible.
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>>163465358
DS3 is much more like DS1/Demon's Souls than DS2. And DS3 never really feels like a chore to play, in part due to being short.
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*Sees Gwyndolin* Aww, Gwyndolin you little useless self-deceiving bitch, does it hurt to hear that your daddy never loved you, and even raised you up as a girl? Oh and nice illusions you got here, I mean why face reality when you can lie to yourself and deceive others to think all is well, loser. Well, all is not well. I am here. I will kill you and take away these pathetic illusions of false hope you and your people have left. Then I will kill your daddy, mount his ugly bearded head on a spike next to yours, cover the world in darkness and rule over it, while tormenting your soul for eternity. Wanna try to stop me? *10 seconds later* Aww you fight like a bitch too. That's all right, you can't run forever! *Some time later* Told you... Sssshhh ssshh, I know it hurts having a sword in your gut, but don't fight it. You were born to be a loser, so don't fight it, loser. Die... And know that you failed, and everything you cared about, I will destroy... Suffer. MUHAHAHAHAHA! >:)
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>>163465184
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>>163458625
>>163463718
>>163458554

The Wojak face manikins would've been kekworthy to see.
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Anyone else's ps4 controller like to break the micro usb plug? I've had it break 2 so far and the controller still works fine if I stick in a new one.

I should probably just get a cheap bluetooth thing, my motherboard doesn't have one.
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>>163466087
>obey giantdad
My sides.
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>>163466468
My PS3 controller does this. Never used the PS4 controller on PC.
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>>163466698
Yeah my PS3 controllers didn't do it but that's mini usb.
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Why do they let you keep 600 Siegbrau in storage? Nobody is going to go to NG+200. It just allows CE and savescumming.
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>>163467108
They should've made Siegbrau infinite if Siegward rescues Greirat and limiyed the braus to 5 or something to even out the cheatin' bitches.
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>>163464771
>want to buy gifts for friends and family
>not having anything planned this year for Christmas
My folks only want me to pay for my loans because poorfag and friends want to do their own thing. I'm conflicted and disappointed in myself.
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>>163467108
>>163467249
Why do divine blessings / siegbrau / lifegems / shrooms / ... even have to be a thing? Just don't have item healing outside of estus, fuck.
>>
Shush, ye eejit!
>>
Man, I never use any "limited stock" consumables when I play souls games. Just too many ways to fuck yourself over wasting a 'shroom trying to beat a boss or the mother fucking piece of shit asshole cock sucking hellkite drake on NG++ while also losing 99 humanities because you got cockey and decided to not wear the fucking ring of sacrifice and god damnit that was like four level ups worth of souls you dropped you disgrace of an undead fuck.
>>
>>163466087
>>163458625
Wait a minute.

THATS RIGHT
THOSE GUYS FROM THE TRAILER
I NEVER NOTICED
WHERE WERE THEY
>>
>>163467565
Lifegems was supposed to be a grass equivalent for nobonfire runs and I guess longer stretches of co-op but honestly DaS2 should've ditched the Estus Flask altogether seeing as having to rely on the flask meant that bonfires were too close to each other.

Also DS1 was not meant to be on pc originally so from didn't account for hacks.
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>>163467939
The trailer looked like they were near Iron Keep or the equivalent. The Manikins also looked like assassins so maybe they were supposed to be something like assassins hunting the player down like the Forlorn are in Softs.

From pls, remake Demon's Souls for PS4 and then remaster DS2 for next-gen.
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>>163463929
>copyright reasons

How the hell can someone copyright something so plain as this mask?
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Rate? Going for a black templar look. I don't know if I want to use Golem armor or Dark armor.
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>>163468297
ask the Naruto guys
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>>163467939
they are the manikins. other than the mask, the rest is exactly the same
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>>163468615
That was always a meme, there was no copyright involved with the masks. It's not sourced anywhere and From didn't say anything about it on the Design Works or in any interview. They just decided to change the masks on their own for whatever reason.
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>>163468615
It makes a lot more sense here, because of the more elaborate patterns and shapes, but the DS2 mask is literally a perfectly plain white mask with two eye openings, and one of the eyeholes is a little dirty.

Theres no fucking way someone can give a C&D on that.
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>>163469040
You can be C&D if you put two small circles on the edge of a larger circle.
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>>163468967
They based the new look of the Manikin Mask on this.
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>>163469141
Thats really unsettling and a cool design, but its still an inferior version of the original mask imo.
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>>163463929
>>163468297
>>163468615

Namco even holds the rights to Naruto games, so there's no way they received a copyright warning for the mask, it doesn't even look close anyways.
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>>163469526
If only players knew what the mask referenced to. Most players would think it looks dorky as fuck without knowing it's suppose to be an executioner's mask.
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>>163468448
you want the elite cleric set. if can't/won't use ce, you could get the bk or thorns chest. golem armor just makes you look like you skip a lot of leg day
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>>163469673
This. From changed the design themselves and people immediately jumped to conclusions.

Why did it happen so late though? Cause thats the reason so many people thought copywright was the reason for the change, it came well after the mask had been shown extensively in trailers.

>>163469843
>without knowing it's suppose to be an executioner's mask

Do you say that like its common knowledge to INTENTIONALLY sound like a fag or what?

From what culture? I thought an executioner's mask was generally a black sack or hood. Who the fuck wore masks?
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>>163470152
>Do you say that like its common knowledge to INTENTIONALLY sound like a fag or what?
Quit putting words in my mouth you autist. Whether it's suppose to be a cool reference or make the mask seem unsettling, most players wouldn't have thought of that first because it WASN'T common knowledge. They think it was a weird face mask and were confused why they didn't keep the alpha design instead.
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>>163470440
>not answering his question
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>>163470595
Rothenburg ob der Tauber, Germany
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>>163470440
Oh I get your point, sorry.

I mean, the mask really is cool and unsettling on its own, the fact that its based on a historical executioner's mask is largely irrelevant to that fact though. The mask will subjectively look cool or shit to anyone regardless.

I wish they at least kept the OG manikin mask in the game in some shape or form though.
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>>163470810
>I mean, the mask really is cool and unsettling on its own, the fact that its based on a historical executioner's mask is largely irrelevant to that fact though. The mask will subjectively look cool or shit to anyone regardless.
Manikins were designed to be spooks roaming the fortress so it wouldn't be surprising they thought it would be fitting to use that mask look instead of the alpha one.
>I wish they at least kept the OG manikin mask in the game in some shape or form though.
To be fair, the mask probably looked too fantasy-like or not coherent with the "Dark Souls" style. Like it's something that's straight out of anime hence the copyright rumors. Either way, I wish we fought more of them in a expanded Earthen Peak. For some reason, I feel like that whole map was short and missing something that Brume Tower had. Maybe because it felt too empty and some mechanics in the map were designed to be used for something bigger but they half-assed it (levers used to lift poison pots).
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>his character name is Goku
>is a knight in full plate armor with a great shield and greatsword
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>>163471317
>To be fair, the mask probably looked too fantasy-like or not coherent with the "Dark Souls" style. Like it's something that's straight out of anime hence the copyright rumors.

Damn, you got a good point there, you're probably right.
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Let's play a game, /dsg/. Post your best/main character, and give it a boss theme. tripfags need not apply
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>>163472427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39rt-HsOGNo
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Post cosplay builds
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What's a good level of luck for a character such mainly is gonna use Anri's/straight sword and hollow weapons and maybe carthus swords, in fact I already have 40 luck and I want to know of it's worthy to scale more.
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>>163472427
The only character i have on my __phone_ is my shitty magic knight guy in a webm.

Theme-https://youtu.be/vcQ2DAkOVe0
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Coming from DaS 1 here, buy DaS 2 or 3? might get both eventually but for now whcih is better?
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>>163471798
>Artorias
>Fallen Knight's

>Ornstein
>uses Artorias' set

>Guts
>uses a shield
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My Favorite pic of my character
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>>163473326
DaS3 is a direct sequel to DS1 while DS2 is kind of a side story of sorts. Also the gameplay in DS3 is more closer to Demon's Souls / DS1 than DS2.
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>>163472427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39rt-HsOGNo
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>>163472597
>>163473679
You guys have pretty similar characters :^)
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>>163473326
I like 2 sotfs better than 3, but I think I'm in the minority, so you should probably go with 3.
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>>163473679
>>163473751
he's a fucboi
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I'm having a ton of fun with dork magic in 3. I overleveled by 10 levels though because fuck this 45/45 cap.
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>>163472680

Every single one.
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>>163472427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy9r2qeouiQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHp8-66naHI
I would post other songs from them if it weren't for their topcringe lyrics.
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>>163472427
I will post another because i am bored
Best i could do because i do not have a pic.

Theme https://youtu.be/ipqqEFoJPL4
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>>163471317
>too fantasy for dark souls
let this meme die. dark souls has it's fair share of both realism and fantasy/anime/you name it
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>>163475017
Soulsborne is the best when it stays grounded in at least the plausible gear.
Dark Souls 2 had some real buttugly weapons that were fantastical to the point of being totally retarded looking.
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>>163473326
Ditto >>163473595
If you're on a budget, Sotfs includes everything plus the dlc stuff and ""fixed"" some of it's problems. For DS3, you have to get the dlc or season pass and even then it's somewhat disappointing. I don't keep track of activity but people here have said there's activity in sotfs.
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>>163475274

Was this the ugliest weapon in the franchise?
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>>163475546
Replaying sotfs for bit here, invasions arent dead in tiers 35 and 36, and the arena still has a lot of people. Very few white soapstones though, but i dont usually look for them so it might just be me.
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>>163475698
Your pic or quelaggs furysword imo. Though the fury sword was ugly in a really cool way
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>>163475698
All the release date weapons gifted to you when you preordered from ds2. They were all trash, what the fuck were they thinking?
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>>163475978
It almost feels like Namco told them to have an on disc dlc quota, so they just made the shitiest looking weapons they could think of just to spite them
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>>163476114
I'm glad FROM are deciding to move away from them and start their own thing but god knows what travesty will come upon us for the next three projects.
>it's shit because the talented left
>exclusives
>more cashgrab
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>>163475978
Unforgivable that the Black Flamestone Dagger was an upgrade to the much better looking Royal Dirk.
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Paladin Leeroy just WoG'd me off the cliff
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>>163475978
saddest thing is that transgressor shield is one of the most broken shields in the game and flamestone dagger makes entire class completely irrelevant even worse than corvian greatknife in 3
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>>163475978
Their descriptions were a bit iffy too, like the Homunculus Mace & Shield being from Aldia's Keep while their design resembles spider eggs, which would be more fitting in Tseldora.
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>>163475698
i can kinda forgive KUGS because you can beat a queen with her own statue
what i won't forgive though is the fact this ugly, malformed piece of shit appeared outside of its own game
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>>163476810
>fight him again for the umpteenth time
>whiff parry
>he knocks me off the cliff
>falls after me and dies
>go back to the cliff; his stuff isn't there

FUCKING OF COURSE.

I NEED SOMEONE TO DROP ME SANCTUS ON PC. I'M NOT GOING INTO NG+ BECAUSE OF THIS SHIT.
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>>163476329
>exclusives
If it's gonna be a Sony exclusive like DeS/BB, then Japan Studio can work their magic again so the lack of talent won't be a problem.
It'd be kinda sucky having a smaller community overall and because /dsg/ is so pc oriented we'd have to split off into another elitist circlewank like /bbg/.

>inb4 Nintentoddlers get an exclusive Souls game
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>>163477456
>yfw Nintendo gets the Space Souls game
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>>163477546
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>>163467939
Idk if it's true but I think they got sued because the original manikin looked too similar to something else
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>>163472427
Heh....this won't take long................................................................KID

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xywr-722FKM
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>>163475978
>grab some old assets
>model literal shit on it
>put a vomit texture on it
>done, 10/10 - IGN

I stopped caring about preorders 10 years ago. Get with the fucking times.
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Hey /dsg/ I decided to reinstall DS1 recently, but after downloading DSfix and following the instructions, it's causing my game to crash. I did all the steps mentioned in the readme, but I stil get a crash at start up. Can anyone take a look at this pastebin of the dsfix.ini and tell me if they see anything that might be causing the crash?
http://pastebin.com/fjEdiqQ8
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>>163475978
>trash
>homo mace carried me through my entire first playthrough
>powerstancing them wipes out most bosses
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>>163477546
Good because it'd be garbage that doesn't interest me in the slightest.
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>>163476826
> flamestone dagger makes entire class completely irrelevant
???
>gigantic stamina costs that don't make up for 5 more base damage
>lower counter strength than almost all daggers
>hugely inferior moveset to ordinary daggers, to say nothing of bandit knife, can basically only 2hr1
>useless for backstabs and ripostes as it uses the straight sword modifiers and animations

das2 actually had weapon balance
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>>163478864
Cyberpunk souls.

This needs to be a thing.
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When are we going to hold the first ever fc in a boss room?
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>>163477546
>space souls
>gorgeous celestial environments
BB gave me a tiny taste and I was in love
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>>163478980
You forgot the only important part
>range of a fucking longsword with a speed of a dagger
>das 2 only had 1-2 good weapons in entire weapon classes
Fixed
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>>163475978
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>>163472427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUiOylPbfV0
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>>163478980
>das2 actually had weapon balance
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do spell instruments affect weapon buffs? ie will my pyroglove+10 give more fire damage with carthus flame than my white hair talisman+5?
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>>163479228
DaS1 had some FCs hosted in The Abyss.
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i wonder why they removed fire trail effect from resins
looked so nice
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>>163479878
Yes, it's a multiplier on your spellbuff, just like regular spells.

The exception is the luck-scaling sorcery staff, it doesn't get scaling for buffs for some reason.
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Anybody want to help me get through Irithyll Dungeon? It's kind of a pain to get through.
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>>163480471
Sure, booting up my NES, be there in 5
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>>163480471
Booting up my gameboy color
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>>163480471
Rerouting bootleg firmware to my Nokia N-Gage, anon. Be there in five.
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>>163480528
>>163480601
>>163480661
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>>163480770
You need to provide the information before you ask, anon. DS3 is on three different platforms.
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>>163480176
Because the Xboner couldn't handle it.
A lot of the graphical downgrades that happened from BB to DS3 were because the threeshitty's sucksessor Xblows One couldn't handle them.
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Because I've seen messages like "Need Queen" near the thorned whip pickup and I never really used a whip in previous runs, I'm thinking of making a "Mistress" character and try and focus on whips. Any good suggestion to an alternative to the whip that could be considered a "sex" weapon?
How about suggestions what to wear? I'm thinking the loincloth and the painting guardian shirt.
I wish we could just go naked but of course we just had to have the stat hits for doing that, didn't we?
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>>163481180
Oh yeah, that completely slipped my mind. I'm on PS4, sorry about that.
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>>163481363
I don't think you could pull that off early game so it couldn't really be used to skip ahead, I don't think. Unless you pour every point you get into HP.
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>>163481520
I think you can do it with like 12-15 vit, cause i did it on a bandit once.
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Okay so I bought DaS3 and just beat the tutorial boss, but my poor old computer never went above 40 fps on high, was in the 30s the entire time.
I'm afraid It's just going to get more graphic intensive later on into the game, should i just get a refund while im still able?
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>>163481519
>I'm on PS4
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>>163481652
Just turn it on low. What i am doing until i get a new card after xmas.
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>>163481520
>>163481623
Fall damage is % in DaS1.
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>>163481840
So it's a flat percentage based on how fall you're falling?
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>>163481840
Oh yeah. I forgot.
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>>163481904
>how fall you're falling
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>>163481978
I've been drinking.
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>>163481904
Yeah, and equip load increases the damage for falls you can survive, but doesn't actually kill you if you could have lived otherwise from full health. It can make the difference when you aren't full though.
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>>163481363
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Ded thread
Ded games
Ded inside
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>>163481304
Slave knoght legs of course.
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>>163482375
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>>163482375
I could never get that one to work.
But i am bad at platforming
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>>163482567
Did not know about that one.
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Patch when?
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>>163482078
The amount of equipload you have or the amount you're using?
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>>163482580

It's the trickiest one of the three. I find the stair jump the easiest >>163482567
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>>163481304
>suggestions on what to wear?
Dancer's outfit.
Karla's trousers

>sex weapon
>tfw can't get the riding crop of the Fat Ministers in Demon's Souls

Also your image got me hard. Might have to get a hooker for new year's.
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>>163481652
Lothric Castle is gonna become a slideshow for you probably,especially if you noticed any drops during the tutorial. Get a refund if you're not upgrading soon.
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>>163482998
I checked the wiki to make sure I wasn't wrong and it was as I remembered. The text there is way longer but it comes down to this:

Up to 5 game units you take no fall damage, 5-20 units you take an incrasing % of damage, up to 70% of your health (while nude), more than 20 units and you die.
Equip load increases that damage %, but even if you fall exactly 20 units with a gorillion equipload it will only scale up to 99.9% of your health, rounding to having 1 health left. Missing 1 health and falling from 20 units with a gorillion equipload will still kill you, however.
Fall control basically removes the damage, but doesn't affect the <20 units instakill.
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>>163483540
I MEANT > 20 UNITS

I HATE EVERYTHING BUT MOSTLY MYSELF
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Someone want to drop me an onyx blade on PC?
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>>163482776
Is that counter damage or just your regular damage? Looks like you hit the guy during the casting animation, but then, after he was out of it you still hit him pretty hard. I get those same numbers, but my regular damage is half of that. I don't know how this shit works, but yeah, that's pretty crazy. Those are greatsword/ugs levels of damage.
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>>163484284
He's using the exploit where you use the Bloodlust buff and switch weapons while keeping the buff, it's pretty broken but I never met someone that used it in game, there's only this guy that always posts the same webms in the thread.
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>>163484284
>he doesn't know

Look carefully at his weapon
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>>163484457
I've had one guy do it ingame and I just duel charmed it off.
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>>163472680
>>163464691
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>>163484284
It's called being a giant pussy
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>>163484541
It ignores charms, keep lying
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>>163484657
Huh? I've also charmed bloodlust itself before. Worked exactly the same.
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>>163484457
>>163484485
>>163484597
Ah, ok. That's make more sense. I just came back so I need to catch up. Sounds awful, btw
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>>163484284

It's a broken exploit that no one seems to care about.

I'll be posting these for a few more days. Then I'm done.
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>>163484541

It ignores Duel Charms.

Here's a bad picture.
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How do I make the most of my Millwood bow in the arena?
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N64
PC
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can someone post the /vg/ weapon ranking chart please?
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>>163439901

Teleporting dogs in pontiffs turf. Nothing like when you're about to reach the shortcut before the boss only to miss a teleporting dog and having it and it's buddies 2 shot you on ng max
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>>163482776

Why is everyone always wearing the untrue dark ring in arena?
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>>163485765

I think this is the newest one.
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>>163485926
That's complete trash. Washing Pole over Sabre, Crystal Sage Rapier so high, etc. I hope no one is going to take that seriously.
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>>163485926

>gargoyle flame spear

I remember using this before it was on this list long ago

Was it buffed or something ?
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>>163485924
You have to be stupid to waste a ring slot for it
You don't get any covenant "aura" if you have none equiped. It's better for fashion, boi
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>>163486158

Oh it's muh covenant thanks for the tip phamalam
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>>163486034
CSR is a very good rapier only it can't abuse leo.
Sabre was nerfed hard and it amd CCS are closer to other CS now
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>>163486192
No problem famygdala
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>>163486235
Sabre and CCS are still the best weapons in the game.
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>>163485926

Greatswords that high?

I thought they were just slightly faster ultra greatswords without the hyper armor
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>>163486416

They were buffed multiple times.
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>>163486481

Well shiet I've been out of the loop
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>>163472427
sm 1213129 who wants to fight that mirror knight cunt?
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>>163486034

Are you aware the CSR is the longest rapier in the game, longer than the Estoc?

>>163486235

>CSR can't abuse Leo

wat?

>>163486073

No, it has always been the best.

>>163486416

They've been very significantly buffed.

>>163486327

I didn't make the list and don't agree with everything, but read the text on the side faglord.
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So how are you suppose to know what shit is hollowed for using the hollowslayer sword?
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>>163486327
How are they better than SS? They have now lower damage, range, CCS's WA is much worse than stance, need to be 2h while SS can use good offhands.
All they have left is their superior running attack
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>>163486608
Sure, let me boot up my macintosh 95. Be there in about 3 minutes
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>>163486852
I'd assume anything humanoid.
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>>163486735
CSR is split damage, leo only boosts thrusts. More weapons can trade amd beat CSR in its game than the ones that can do so against estoc or quills
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>>163472427
>tfw fatboi and dickachu have made me use all my humanity
>stuck looking like fucking Jack Links
who wants help with ornstein and smough? im sl 50 and looking for a good time.
>will suck dick for humanity
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>>163480176
a-at least the propane sword has them
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>>163487009
>no humanity
>who wants to help
I have some bad news for you
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>>163487009
im offering to help people in order to get humanity...
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>>163487046
Tracer blades now has them.
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>>163486975

>leo only boosts thrusts

yes, and? As far as I'm aware in DaS3 it just multiplies damage from thrust-attack counter-hits. Split damage is irrelevant.
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>>163486852

What weapons are there that deal extra damage to bosses?

Hollowslayer is one and Wolf Knight's Greatsword is one that deals extra to Abyssal enemies including dragonslayer armor

Then the Black knight greataxe deals more to demons which there is only one boss in the game
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>>163487203
this is at>>163487115
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>>163487279
pretty sure there are at least two
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>>163472427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWE0nlhpdq8
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>>163486916
<_< did you just invade me, you shit
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>>163486608
brb setting down my soapstone to be summoned as a mirror squire and rek u fag
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Well, after trying for a solid week to successfully port forward my router(s) to play Bloodborne and Darks Souls 3 online, I've just about given up. I can't seem to get it to work no matter what I try, even though it seems like I'm doing everything correctly.
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>>163487407
Not currently playing dark souls, so no

playing darkest dungeon
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>>163482449
>DS2 had neat replay value shit like no death/no bonfire rewards, champ covenant and NG+ changes but it's DS2 PVE
>Memezaki was too lazy to include even the laziest cost effective replay value changes in 3

feels bad man
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>>163487407
I'll help you out. Give me a second. I have to see if one of my characters is in range. God ring?
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>>163487414
do it nerd
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>>163487235
Yes, so
Estoc counter hit: all damage is multiplied by leo
CSR counter hit: physical damage is multiplied by leo, magic damage isn't

This means the difference between a counter hit from CSR and one from Estoc, compared to a non counter attack is much higher on the second weapon. With Leo the dofference is even bigger. Estoc will beat almost any weapon in a trade so long as it's not a HA trade. CSR can't do the same since the trade damage isn't that bigger
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>>163487279

Anri's Does 10% bonus damage vs. reanimated.
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>>163486608
you're a thicc girl
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>>163487009
commooooon yall know you want these teriyaki lips pressed against your butthole
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>>163481203
Ps3 couldn't handle dark souls 2
Ps4 can't handle dark souls 3
Consoles are a blight
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>Get to Champion Gundyr in NG+
>Have 2 Estus left
>Decide fuck it, I'll give it a go
>Beat him in one attempt
Huh, didn't expect that.
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>>163472427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fe9W1gZPUs
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>steam winter sale
>neither das3 DLC nor the season pass are on sale

h-ha, I d-didn't want to have a merry Christmas anyway
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>>163487561

How do you know it only affect physical damage? Because I'm not so sure.
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>>163485926

Where the fuck is farron greatsword
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>>163487705
Solaire looks like he's into it.
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>>163474331
You've played way too much Dark Souls. How can you play it for 800+ hours and still enjoy it?
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>>163487804

don't make me say it
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>>163487893
Nice combo Anon. Wish we knew more about the Deep. And that DS3 wasn't rushed as fuck.
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>>163488065
>worst moonlight blade in from history

Yup.
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>>163487804
>>163488065
Multiplat is a blight. Inflates budgets tremendously and makes optimization a bitch.
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>>163488131
Spotted the PCuck
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>>163488065
I have a PS4 and Bloodborne

PS4 couldn't handle BB either, with Loran being a glaring example
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>>163487414
are you Lost?
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>>163472427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhqeNUFCyI0
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>>163487552
shame i just beat him. ;_;
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>>163485926
>not posting jojo masterlist
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>>163488383
Want me to play with you the rest of the way?
Also do you have God Name Ring?
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>>163487929
That's how it did before and if you actually check your ABS during animations, only thrust changes.
You can reliably test this out with a chaos estoc if you want to see
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>>163488226
>can't deny it

consolefag delusion
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>>163487964
Paired. Low tier.
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>>163488131
If you can elaborate on why it was the worst out of every iteration, I'd love to hear it
Because even without Nourishing gems, that thing was pretty fucking good on a STR/ARC character.
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>>163488701
>moonlight greatsword
>just a greatsword that gets a magic effect around it
>not actually made of moonlight
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>>163488396
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>>163488497
yeah i got the ring. want to kill that weird frog?
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>>163488948
Sure. I found a character that's in range of you, sans the ring. So do you want my sign at the bonfire, or the fog?
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>>163489050
im at the tower of prayer
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>>163488701
1. The irritating, shitty sound effect pasted across almost all tricked attacks
2. The beams don't explode
3. The beams have shit range
4. No lightning, though only DaS2 got that right
5. Not transparent, instead looks like cheap glass over patterned wood
6. It's far better as a simple claymore than the actual MLGS

DaS3's travesty of a MLGS is no better but it at least looks like what it should
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>>163488858
Oh, I thought you were going to bring up moveset or AR or something.
What do you think would be a good way for the Holy Moonlight Sword to transform in a game where every weapon is expected to have some sort of transformation/adjustment capability?
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>>163489050
ive got the ring on the Hanleth
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>>163489129
Alright, I'll place my sign
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>>163489386
HYPE
Y
P
E
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>>163489150
lightsaber-esque blade
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>>163489637
I had to build up a few souls to get the ring, coming now
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Does the game ever explain what the profaned flame is, exactly? Is it the dumb bowl that shoots fireballs?
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>>163489751
It's like a flame, but profaned
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>>163489140
-Fine
-Demon's Souls Large Sword of Moonlight has no beams whatsoever
-Lightning damage on a weapon made out of moonlight makes no sense and bolt wouldn't automatically make a weapon in BB better
Not to mention, what about a sword made of moonlight dealing lightning damage is "right"?
-Moonlight Greatsword in the first Dark Souls wasn't transparent
-Yes
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>>163489738
did you just fall off the egde?
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>>163490418
N-no...
yes
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>>163486416

Tier list maker here, Greatswords are probably the best general weapon class in the game imo at the moment aside from maybe halberds. Great 1H and 2H basic movesets, most every greatsword is some variation of good, the best ones all have a certain niche to each and their damage is generally spectacular for their speed and poise. Hell the Black Knight Sword at 40/40 has higher AR than over half of great weapons in the game.
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>>163490186
Demon's Souls didn't have movesets
>-Lightning damage
I meant lightning visual effects, but it is meant to shoot beams of pure light magic
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>>163490573

Which weapon do you consider best for pve?
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Does the beam from Lothric's Holy Sword do thrust damage and get Leo Ring bonus? I know it's physical, I just don't know if it's thrust like the sword itself.

If nobody knows I'll test it myself tomorrow.
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>>163490482
only took like 3 tries :D
im not bad i-i swear
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>>163491154

Ever since the Carthus CS nerf it's an even tie between Broadsword, Hollowslayer GS and Carthus to me. In terms of ease to get and early access Broadsword has it.
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>>163491203
Sign's down at the Crypt.
I'll have to go soon, because my best friend and I are going to play through DS1 for the first time in forever. He's reinstalling it.
>uninstalling it in the first place
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>>163491367
you guys like teriyaki?
>>163487009
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Bellfucker down.
Where to next?
Also what's your SM? I might need to switch characters here soon.
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>>163492216
I never realized how much lower case e's looked like faces until I saw them backwards in that picture.
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>>163492216
sm is 1347791
i don't actually remember where to go after this.
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>>163492426
Aldia's Keep.
I'll put my sign down in the building.
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>>163491346
>Carthus

Carhtus what??? Well in general I'm talking about bosses like Sully, dancer, twin princes, oceiros and soul of cinder. They move fast and have so much hp on ng maxed that I'm having issues with them.
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So I just bought DS3, and I'm super frustrated. For some reason, tilting my ps3 controller is being read as various button inputs like attacking, backstepping, using items, shuffling through my items. Has anyone else had this problem?
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>>163492646
Is it wired or are you using wireless?
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>>163487009
learn to dupe firekeeper souls and never suffer through humanity farming again
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>>163492513
where the dragon skeleton is?
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>>163492715
Wired, using MotioninJoy, which I've been using ever since DS1 with no problems.
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>>163492797
As soon as you walk into the building.
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Why does sister friede have no footwear given how cold it is?
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>>163492646
I've had it in a ps3 controller before. Moving the controller would press all sorts of buttons, notably the dpad. You're pretty fucked unless you're pretty good at repairing controllers, as, at least in my case, it was the case of one of the corners of the motherboard somehow snapping (I don't abuse my controllers so I don't even) and it wasn't something I was confident in gluing. So I just a new one. Which is a shame, because I really like fixing PS3 controllers, shit's rad.

Image is gore, please don't view.
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>>163492907
See Priscilla the filthy crossbreed slut
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>>163492907
She's already dead

Check the statue at the end of the room
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>>163492964
Wait seriously? So it's actually a problem with the hardware and not the software? Cause that's a huge bummer if that's the case. I've had this controller for almost 9 years now so I guess it was bound to fail at some point.
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>>163492964
>RAT 3 Mouse
kek m8

kek
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>>163492964
>RAT mouse
>anime mousepad
>>>/v/
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>>163492619

Carthus CS. Slap Rouge on it and it's still a HP bleeding machine against bosses.
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>>163493112
You can always open it up and see what you can find, but 9 years is some where and tear.

>>163493115
It was a gift, but I gotta say it's the comfiest mouse I ever owned.

>>163493148
You talkin' shit about my waifus?
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>>163493196
I had a RAT 5 back when those came out, was good but I just want my G400 to last forever
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>>163493287
That mouse is actually a 7, not a 3. Not that I know what the difference is.
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>>163493165
>Carthus CS. Slap Rouge on it and it's still a HP bleeding machine against bosses.

Don't you need specific stats to make bleed effective?
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>>163493391

No, Luck technically gives bonus Bleed/Poison scaling but it's so minimal it might as well not be there. Rouge is all you need.
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>>163493148
Persona's is first and foremost a video game series. Or is that not the point here?
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>>163493506
I think he was just shitposting.
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Why does Dark Souls 2 give me King's Quest vibes
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please no
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>>163493802
>estus flask +1
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>>163493802
And somehow, as hard as it might be to believe, it only gets worse from there.
Shittiest part of the game, unfortunately.
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>>163493918
i don't know what im doing
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>>163493970
>Shittiest part of the game, unfortunately.
I liked it
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>>163493481

I see thanks for the answers
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>>163493802
You got your demon slaying sword right there in your hand. Get to work.
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>>163494039
Hey, nothing wrong with that. Opinions, after all.
I've always hated going through there and the next place, though. I feel like it could have been a million times better if it wasn't so short, so rushed with reused assets, and such a pain to look at with all the lava.
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If a character has a +3 normal weapon, will that character be able to see a +2 twinkling titanite weapon if dropped?
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>>163494810

Yes but if you pick it up it will increase your WM to +4
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>>163494882
Can I upgrade to +3 special and still see it?
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>>163495038

Yes.
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Is 33.77 poise enough to spam R1s with the MLGS like a scrub?
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Does Wulf's Connectivity Mod not work anymore??
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>>163495417
against what you need that for yes

>>163495528
it does
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Anyone want to help me move a weapon between characters?

On PC
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>>163495816
what game?
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>>163495816
No.
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>tfw forgot to trigger Yuria's assassination sidequest before completing rite of avowal
>tfw accidentally killed Yuria afterward
i jump and jump but i just keep coming back
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>>163495838
DS3
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>>163495417
No difference from 7.7 poise, except when at 100% poise health, I guess. But I can never be bothered dicking around with that for anything other than tanking ultras with a greathammer.

32.8 lets you tank 1H hammers, 37.78 lets you tank 1H greatswords, higher than that it gets retarded.
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>>163495605
It's not connecting me to either of my friends that are playing. We're all in a discord and started new characters. In the Parish now, so we should have connected by now.
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>>163496530
Can't you force the program to connect you with other people though?
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>>163495816
I can, I need to transfer a ring too.
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What SL is the current meta in DS3?
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>>163496661
Sure what ring? I have almost all +2 rings and shit I think
Pass: SwordRing Location: High Wall of Lothric bonfire
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>>163496897
I already have it. It's gundy's ring.
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DS3: Can anyone help my pyro build with Carthus?
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>>163496582
Yes. Still not working
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>>163496959
Ok, just put sign there with as much of the password as fits, SwordRin and I'll summon twice so you can have your ring and then you help me with the sword
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>>163496747
80-100 - invasions,
120 - duels.
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>>163497179
Yup, already done that.
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>>163497226
Red sign nigga, can't summon whites
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Will From ever change the backstab/riposte animation for scythes?

Using a scythe to stab doesn't really fucking seem like the best idea
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>>163497275
Don't have a sign on the second one lmao. Put your sign down
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anyone want to co-op 4-1 and 4-2
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Really want to play DS3 on PC

What controller should I use?
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>>163497607
DS4
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>>163497607
GameSir
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Ok nigga, now show up in a character that can see a +3 special type weapon so I can transfer that
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>>163497607
DS4 is nice. You can also use swipes and pressing down left/right on the touch pad for shortcuts in games that allow for hotkeys. For quicksaving, item use or whatever.
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>>163497607
If all fails, xbox controller is the easiest and probably cheapest controller. No need to download a program just so long as the driver is updated and those controllers are everywhere.
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I'm retarded, hold on
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>>163496747
125 has been the meta since near the start of the game and it remains such.

>DeS, DaS1, DaS3
120/125

>DaS2
99 in every stat

>BB
98

>>163455489
Me being better at the game is still about the game.

Not everyone is shitters, but the threads are swarming with them these days. You can see it in all of the pathetic bitching about this weapon or that weapon being OP. Not calling them on it brings down the level of the general and the FCs, which also involves the game.

Sony consoles are the only ones to have the complete series, including DeS and BB.

Mustards are the ones that are all about "muh cheats," not me. These threads were vehemently anti-cheating before the PC release, and you are a liar or an idiot if you try to claim cheating in a multiplayer game doesn't bring down its level. And again, this has to do with the game.

Meanwhile, all you do is autistically focus on a minor part of my posts that others barely notice (a known symptom of austim) and shit post about it constantly. Your post almost never have anything to do with the games.
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>tfw wanna kill myself
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>>163497556
Ok now I'm back with the sword at +2 so my retarded ass can see it in the other character

You still there?
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>>163498678
Yup, i've placed my sign
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>>163498586
i mean if you've got a ring of sacrifice...
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>>163498586
>tfw can't just go hollow
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You can't see the sword? Also is there any other ring left?
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Ok, so can't see +2 either

Fuck me, I'll be back in a sec with a +1
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>>163498804
tfw to intelligant to be a abyss watcher
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>>163499290
>Also is there any other ring left?
Got the 2 I cared about lol could have kept all the others, I can drop them if you want

I'm back with +1 sword, I¿ll kill myself if it dfoesn't work
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>>163499602
kek, sure. just drop any other ones you don't need, but on that other character of mine.
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>>163499496
why is he so fucking tiny compared to an actual abyss watcher?
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Was there anything else?
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>>163499949
He's a manlet, why do you think he hates them for real?
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I just finished the game today with all the bosses. What are some essential things to do before going to NG+?
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>>163499949
I suspect he doesn't have any of Artorias's blood in him, so that's why he tries and become dragonkin
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>>163499815
I¿ll put sign down
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Newfag here, playing DS1. Can anyone give me a few tl;dr pointers on weapon enhancement? I have a winged spear +3 and a halberd +4 and that's it so far but I see there are several different types of enhancement?

Also, unrelated, I just got Griggs back at Firelink. I started as a pyromancer, which I realize doesn't really matter anymore, but it means this is my first access to sorcery spells. My intelligence is still at 12 where it started. Are there spells available here that are must-have for anyone? Or should I not necessarily worry about improving this unless I just want to?
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>>163499949
He has no wolf blood in him, that might be it.

Also might be that the AW hat/helmet really does makes your character look taller.
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>>163500320
You'll find embers around the world that allow you to upgrade your weapons further, if your at +5 divine you can either ascend to +10 divine or turn it into an occult weapon.

When you go into the Depths look for a chest near the beginning of the area, inside there will be the large ember which will let you upgrade to +10

Also don't bother with sorcery unless your planning to go balls deep in it, there's no respeccing in dark souls 1 so make sure where you put your points matter
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>>163500320
Oh, and important thing to mention, neither faith nor intelligence makes pyromancy stronger. only how upgraded your flame is.

you might want to make a new character
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>>163500784
>>163500860
Thanks man but why make a new character? And how do I upgrade my flame?
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>>163501360
I misread your comment and thought that you levelled your intelligence to 12, Ignore that.
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>>163501509
Oh nah, I have only leveled Vig, End, Str, Dex.
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>>163499496

if he's so smart why did he challenge the ashen 1
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>>163501509
lol wut
even if he leveled it to 12, it's just 12
you min-maxers need to get out of here, it's his first playthrough and even if it wasn't you're still getting worked up over something pretty insignificant
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You know most problems in Dark Souls games could be solved by talking instead of fighting...
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>>163502443
>sup Aldrich
>AIWRHWA EAGTWSDGA
>yeah that's what I thought
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>>163502443
Those enemies don't seem talkative at all desu.
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>>163468448
81 poise is ideal, above that you're just withstanding multiple hits of lighter attacks in a row, and no one combos that much because rolls exist.

If you're going to have that much faith you should use +15 normal with sunlight blade. Going divine/occult is going to basically halve your damage by comparison. Yes, your AR is higher, but split damage is a lot lower by comparison.

Adjusting the AR to account for split damage:
Normal Zweihander on your stats ~466 AR
Occult Zweihander: ~547 AR
SLB Normal Zweihander on your stats: ~664 AR
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>>163470152
>Why did it change so late?

Because most of DS2 had to be redesigned since most of the original team stopped halfway through development to work on BB. DS2 was a super-rush job to finish, the only areas that were actually complete before trailers were being sent out was Aldia's Keep, Dragon Aerie, and Forest of the Fallen Giants.

The 2014 network test beta (which only featured huntsman's copse) is a completely different game, from the ground up than the 2012-2013 gameplay demo, and that uses the engine that was actually used for the final game. This implies that the game was rebuilt on a new engine (likely to accomodate PS4/Xbone and 60fps) in about a year.
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hello where are the gwyndolin lewds
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>>163475274
Dark souls 2 went insane with the weapons but was a lot more practical regarding the armor than other games.
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>>163504495
>all that slutwear
>practical
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>>163475978
From knew that its fans were cancer so they gave them weapons with cancer
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>>163504495
>but was a lot more practical regarding the armor
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>>163504495
you mean like the bandit IE "fallout 3 raider" armor?
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>>163477193
That's sort of the point though. Fume UGS is a beautiful looking sword buried underneath charcoal. Look at it carefully. I think it's actually really good looking.
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>>163498518
>DaS2
>99 in every stat

meme trash

SL120 DS1 is more overpowered than SL200 DS2, which is the meta.
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Can we all agree smelter sword needs to come back?
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To be unkindled is to be a vessel for souls. Sovereignless Souls will become thy strength
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>>163498518
The meta for pvp is always "a high enough SL to beat the main game and get all the items/weapons, but not high enough to not have weaknesses."

For DS1 that is:
40 in health
40 in one main stat (Str/Dex/Fth/Int)
20-40 in a secondary stat (Str/Dex/Fth/Int)
>20 in a supporting stat.(Attn/End)

DS2 is identical, except you now have both endurance and vitality, plus 2 soft caps: That adds 40 + 20 + 20 = 80, putting the meta at SL200. SM tiers reflect this, as that's about the level you would be when you reach the larger matchmaking tiers (~5-12m SM)
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>>163498518
stop tripping please
>threads are swarming with shitters bitching about weapons being OP
what are "things that aren't remotely true" for 200, Alex
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>>163500320
Normal upgrade increases base damage and scaling. Go with that.

Raw upgrade removes scaling but increases base damage. Only good for weapons with no scaling, otherwise normal will always be better.

Crystal increases damage over normal, but can't be repaired.

Occult/Divine/Enchanted/Magic add some elemental damage and change scaling. They always do less damage than normal though, and are only useful if you min-max (for example, 40+ faith on an occult weapon). Using your fth/int for weapon augmentation (sunlight blade, etc.) will ALWAYS do more damage than using these upgrades, but is a temporary buff and takes up magic slots.

Fire and Lightning are like the above, but they don't have any scaling. This makes them useful for putting your stats into other categories but still doing decent damage. They will always still be weaker than normal, though, but at the benefit of putting stats elsewhere.

Chaos is like fire and lightning, but it scales with your humanity level, which can be very useful. It does more damage than normal when you don't invest any other stats in damage, but unlike fire and lightning it can lose its damage if you die and lose your humanity.

So in summation:

Faith or intelligence focused: Normal+15 upgrade, Augment with Sunlight Blade or Crystal Magic Weapon
Str or dex focused: Normal+15
No focus/low level: Chaos
No focus/low level and low humanity: Lightning
Weapon has no scaling: Raw
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>>163505290
that's not how i remember it
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>>163500320
>Are there spells available here that are must-have for anyone?
i wouldn't say any spell is must have but if you use shields at all, you might want to consider getting the magic shield.
>>
Loo Cee Furry
>>
Could some anon be nice enough to take a screenshot of Hollow Warrior chest, Thief's Hood, and Pyro Pants on a character from DS1? (Ideally a male character)

I don't feel like reinstalling just to get a reference picture.
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>>163504981
Fugs is nasty garbage, and it precluded the introduction of a good looking "heaviest UGS".

I miss the DBS so much. Strength builds have never been the same.
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Oh my beautiful face! Hows it looking /dsg/?? is it bad??
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>>163507013
>is it bad??
well duh you're playing DaS2
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>>163506902
>DBS
>good looking
???
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>>163504359
look no further good sir >>>/aco/1036421
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Anybody on PS4 want to fight Dragonslayer Armor with me?
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What's the best level to get summons for the Darkmoons? It's literally the only achievement I don't have this game and I've been playing it since day 1.
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FUCK THE PURSUER WHAT THE FUCK IS HE AND WHY IS HE THE SECOND FUCKING BOSS I UNDERSTAND THIS GAME IS MEANT TO BE DIFFICULT BUT THIS CUNT IS TOO FAR WHY DO MY DODGES HAVE TO BE FRAME FUCKING PERFECT TO AVOID GETTING HALF HIT BY THE TIP OF HIS SHITTY SWORD I WATCH GUIDE AFTER GUIDE ON THE SHIT AND STILL CANT GET HIM BELOW 50% I JUST WANT THE FUCKING DRANGLEIC SHIELD OK CAN I FUCKING HAVE THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO FIGHT THIS CUNT AND BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING NO IM NOT FUCKING FAT ROLLING AND I CAN FUCKING PARRY IM NOT THAT MUCH OF A RETARD IT JUST NEVER FUCKING WORKS RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HOW THE FUCK DO I DO THIS CUNT SO I CAN GET MY ITEMS AND GET MY BONFIRE AT THE LOST BASTILLE
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>>163509230
I want DaS2 SHIT babbies to leave.
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>>163509230
git gud
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>>163509230
git gud
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>>163508838
For Dark Souls 3, that is.
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>>163509416
the recommended level for dorkmoon summons is NaN%

just respec into a farming build and kill silver knights for ears

beg for the sweet release of death from this fucking shitshow of a series
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>>163509230
Calm down, use summons or your soapstone to go to other worlds to see how people do it and to get extra souls till you GIT GUD
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>>163509542
that photo is a lie, ds2 looks nowhere near that good
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>>163505247
>>163505889
The meta in DaS2 is 99 in every stat because you levels don't matter anyway.

>>163506290
Anyone that is in these threads for more than a day knows that it is true.
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>>163509230
dodge towards the direction the sword is coming from. he has huge recovery and dodging any attack chain (iirc 4 moves max) lets you land 1-3 hits depending on the weapon
alternatively parry his ass and shoot him with the balista, but that would require gitting gud
>>
How do we end dsg?
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>>163508838
>>163509416

I see a decent amount of Blues while invading as SL65-68 with +6/3 weapons. The Silver Knights will be easy enough to farm at that level as well.
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>>163509623
been in these threads for years, stop making shit up and stop tripfagging
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>>163508838
realize that darkmoons depend on people wearing WoB
realize that pretty much any covenant is superior in function
realize that WoB is found early AND is considered babby mode
add it all up to see that the best level is right after getting WoB. that and designated gankers
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I saw someone use a texture replacer for Dark Souls 3 to make the cloth texture of the fallen knight set transparent, so you could see the set underneath it (which i actually really pretty). I was wondering, any texture wizard here that can turn the cloth texture of Hawkwood's Shield transparent? because I'm pretty sure there's a beutiful shield underneath that shit.
pic related, the fallen knight without cloth
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>>163509572
That must be the DS2 level with atmosphere comparable to Tower of Latria,hehe.

But seriously, Heide's Tower looks fucking great and it's a shame that they never really fully capitalized on it.
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>>163441189
I can't wear that helm because of the skin around the neck. It triggers me like nothing else.
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>>163509572
>memes

Check out these spiders killing themselves on the spikes, scared of the light but still trying to get to me, they were so confused.
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>>163504495
DaS2 had a lot of dumb WoW fantasy shit but admittedly they also introduced some of my favorite "realistic" sets like Royal Swordsman set, infantry set, Drangleic set, Drakeblood set and the Loyce set. Also the Heide Knight set was cool as shit but the coloration was kind of crap and I didn't like the toilet paper cape.
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>>163510378
I never played two, but I'd pay to have the sluttier sets imported into ds3 with model and texture updates
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>>163510257
Brightstone cove looks kinda like shit but the area had that cool thing where you can see a preview of the areas from another angle before you go there and I think that was cool.
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>>163510552
>sluttier sets
go away waifufag
one thing i really hated about 2 is how it attracted shitty waifufags and how arena was full of ugly bitches with crowns and slutwear instead of somehow more creative characters
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>>163510762
No. That smelter demon midriff. Unf.
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>>163507013
>DaS 2

I pray for you. Thats a pretty cool looking character tho. What's it like in human form?
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>>163509230
You can make ti through DaS 1 while being shit.

This is the moment. This is the moment where every SHITTY but dedicated souls player realizes he needs to step his fucking game up and git gud.

I remember the good old days when Quake 2 came out, so I know my shit.
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>>163510762
Also peaking of waifus, I wish the mirrah hat was in this game. Now I'm making do with pharis but it doesn't feel as special
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How many femanons are here spouting about waifus because thery're afraid to their gender?

I mean serously, how many chicks are there here really? Be honest people. I'm a dude.
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This is a reminder that Sulyvahn did nothing wrong.
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>>163485926
still feel like the old wolf curved sword should be one tier higher. when 2-handed after landing two hits, if your oponent rolls sideways you can clip them with the full weaponart combo and create some space because you jump back, and landing that combo triggers the passive of the sword: the damage buff and healing.
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>>163492816
GET RID OFF MOTIONINJOY
FUCKING CHINESE SPYWARE
google a guide on ho to completely remove the motioninjoy driver (since a simple uninstall isnt enough) and get the latest STABLE (not beta) release on this page for ps3 or ps4 controllers:
https://github.com/nefarius/ScpToolkit/releases
>>
is the nexus a floating cathedral or some crazy shit?
>>
>>163505290
only if they come back as a paired weapon
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>>163511201
L O N D O R
O
N
D
O
R
>>
DaS2 is a much better game than 1 and 3.
That's why mizakicucks are so mad about it.
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>>163511201
>females
>on 4chan
>on /vg/ of all places
>here of all places
ahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>163511201
Probably a surpising amount, cause I made friends with a souls femanon a little while back.

I think a lot of them pose as dudes, or just straight up don't mention that they're chicks because of the mandatory femanon welcome package.

I am the pizza king.
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>>163511735
Never playes 1 or 2 but 2 does have more armor and weapons
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>>163511780
>or just straight up don't mention that they're chicks
That's what I do, we all know the "I added you because you're a girl gamer, tis a great thing to see!" Xbox screenshot
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>>163511770
>another sad basement dweller who thinks he's only talking to unattractive males

gets me every time
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pls help
literally can't move
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>>163511896
Exactly the femanon welcome package I talked about.

Its always a variation of desperate fags trying to flirt, and annoying fags trying to gender shame.

I really don't care about your fucking genitals. Just don't be annoying and we're good.
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>>163511992
shouldn't have uncapped the fps
friendly reminder that uncapping fps while invading/duelling is LITERALLY cheating since your animations are slightly faster
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>>163510378
For all the fantasy shit, the genre doesn't have one propper war hammer.
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>>163512041
Lucerne exists
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>>163509709
KEK
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>>163511735
>DaS2 is a much better game than 1 and 3.
How so?
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>>163511735
How's that objectively wrong opinion working out for you?
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>>163510002
Holy shit. That's how it looks? It's beautiful. I have a hard on for all the knight sets in 3. I hate that From plasters every armor in the game with cloth just to show off the physics.
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>>163512072
That's not fantasy though. I mean like the Great Wooden Hammer but metal and regal. Something that makes you want to play a paladin and crush evil.
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>>163512030
i'd rather kill myself than play at 30 fps
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>>163511862
Best thing was you could wear whatever you wanted because everything was viable.
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>>163512149
good luck killing yourself when you can't move :^)
>>
The worst thing about DS2 is not a game itself but its rabid, incredibly annoying fanbase with a huge Stockholm syndrome.
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>>163512137
o my mistake anon I thought you meant there was no realistic warhammers
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>>163512229
Nah, I meant there were no propper fantasy warhammers. I worded my post badly, my bad
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>garbage like fume ugs appeared in ds3
>this beauty will never appear outside of DS1 even though it could easily be on a body of giant blacksmith
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>>163512184
already restarted bruh
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>>163512085
>better poise system
>better BS system
>dual wielding
>balanced weapons
>balanced attire
>viable magic
>toned down grinding for upgrade materials thanks to ascetics
>pvp still works in cleared areas
>stamina managment
>no infinite iframes
>animation cancelling
>meaningful durability system
>checkpoints can be activated when invaded
>no infinite fogwall/disabled bonfire bug
>no queue bug
>sweetspots on weapons
>plenty fun level gimmicks like the poison statues, curse pots, dark areas
>respec in the starting area
>NG+ additions
>stable framerate on all systems
>short loading times
>punishable healing
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>>163511896
Every time
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>>163512041
>>163512137

You mean like this?
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>>163512972
I just can't believe that that message was actually written by an actual person in earnest.
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>>163514234
screenshots like this make me happy that Mount & Blade Bannerlord will have custom banner support, fucking love tabbards
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>No more soul's games
>Never ever a soul's game where you meet Chester in his own timeline

I mean I guess now it'd be pretty dumb to have a soul's game with a Victorian Aesthetic with BB out, but still. I'm kind of surprised Chester isn't in bloodborne, or at least his mask or something.
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>>163514296
>bloodborne never added a crossbow trick weapon
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>>163514258
never underestimate desperate virgins
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>>163514234
No, like this.
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>>163514296
I used to have a cosplay build of Chester, used the painting guardian sword with hidden weapon to simulate his melee attacks.
The build became totally irrelevant once everybody started to poise backstab though
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>>163511201
For the sake of honesty, I am a grillo. Raised in an age of never releasing any personal information online which has always extended to simply not bothering to reference your own gender. Now it's all RealID©™® full name social media stuff and harder to escape from, which is why i've used anonymous imageboards for ten years now. It doesn't matter who you are, nobody cares, shut up, just enjoy things in segregated communities that also enjoy the same things.
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>>163514234
those might be the stupidiest fantasy helmets I've ever seen
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>>163511201
Nyanners plays souls
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>>163514429
GRRM doesn't do subtlety. Did his seven hundred foot tall magical ice wall not tip you off?
>>
Just bought DaS3.

How's the waifu making scene of this game? Will I mostly play with a deformed face like DS1 and 2?
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>>163475978
The yellow sword, and silver and black shields are 10/10 though
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>>163514640
You can make your faces pretty qt. Though I have found that the sameface is real when it comes to what you can do to make your character a waifu
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>>163514640
It's really hard to make good faces, sadly. There are sliders in the OP but none of the faces listed are particularly great. People did the best they could but the engine just doesn't play nice.
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>>163514640
plebbit has a subplebbit with good sliders
>>
>>163514676
>>163514701
>>163514709
Gonna check some kewl sliders
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>>163514640
DS3 character creator is better than in 1 or 2, but worse than in BB and has really serious problems with white hair color for some reason.
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>>163514258
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>>163514870
>jesuschristhowhorrifying.jpg.exe
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>>163514870
I remember why I left /dsg/ now.
>>
>>163514810
What? DS3 character creation is much better than in BB. The waifus I could make in BB pale to those in ds3
>>
>>163514953
Less good hairstyles and especially beard styles.
No glasses.
>>
>>163514709
>plebbit
you mean your favorite website?
fuck off back to your subreddit
>>
>>163514640
You either get weird pouty mouth or crimson chin.
>>
>>163514953
No it doesn't, mustard. Don't false flag.
>>
>>163515021
it's not 2010 anymore we don't need to pretend to hate reddit to such a retarded degree we won't even look at the useful information they have
>>
>>163515113
>>163515113
>>163515113
>>
>>163515005
>Less good hairstyles
There was only about 3-4 hairstyles that looked good on a woman in BB. Same for DS3

>>163515079
What?
>>
>>163514640
ayyy
>>
>>163515124
>22 posts early
>>
>>163515108
so basically you're admitting that you're a redditor then.
Back to your subreddit
>>
>>163515159
holy fuck sliders PLEASE
>>
>>163515159
>not wanting a gf that looks vaguely like an alien
>>
Is there just like no activity going on for help on bosses in Ariandel or is my shit fucked?

pls halp am bad
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>>163515206
i dunno
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>>163515108
>we
lmao
nah, go back to plebbit
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>>163515192
>>163515021
>this dumb
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>Enter duel
>Nigger runs around for 3 minutes
>Chase him the entire time
>He never attacks unless I attack
>Get reactive played to death
>Point down, Patches squat

Well, at least 2v2 and brawls are fun.
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>>163515294
Why do you keep denying being a redditor? Fuck off.
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>>163515192
yes I am in fact a MASSIVE filthy redditor and we post our rage comics and circle jerk each other endlessly, you've caught me red handed

And I'll keep shitposting here too forever
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>>163515352
>tfw playing as a caster in group combat
>all this sweet, delicious assmadness from people on the other team
>unembered health means i lack only 100 hp at most compared to other players, easily compensated by my firepower and MLGS/onyx
>>
>>163515393
I don't want reddit stink nearby. Fuck off.
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>>163514709
post link?
>>
leddit has some nice sliders desu
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>>163515450
not while you feed me (You)s fuccboi
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>four channel will never surpass plebbit in waifu crafting
what am I even doing here
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>>163515578
good leave and go there
>>
>>163515526
>>163515578
I want to see the reasoning why you're not from reddit, which you obviously are.
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>>163515503
>>163515578
GO BACK TO FUCKING REDDIT

WHY DO REDDITORS POST HERE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>163515578
i refuse to believe that face was made without external interference. also
>those fingers
thank mr skeltal
>>
>>163515578
post link to sliders, i'm from reddit too.
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>>163515602
>>163515620
i know taiwanese sekrit menes

big 'dude
for u

he he brandon frasier
pupper
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>>163515706
>>163515679
REDDITORS DETECTED
*heats up lazor*
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SoulsSliders
>this triggers the /dsg/

Memeing aside i'm not from leddit, im just there for the sliders the other anon recommended
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>>163515817
you went to that site which makes you a redditor.
back to your subreddit
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>>163515817
EPIC reddit meme LOL!!!!!
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>>163515620
not even the same guy but okay

I haven't used any dark souls reddit since DS2 and I wanted to look up some fun cosplay builds. I've used it for other games like Hearthstone because 4chan is shit at coming up with actual good decks.

I'm just saying it's fucking dumb as hell to pretend like reddit has exactly 0 useful information and that 4chan should be your only source for game content when this place will at best have outdated/limited info in the OP and it's easy as shit to just google shit about the game and check the first few links that are likely gonna be reddit

stop being stupid
>>
>>163515935
>i use or have used reddit
yup, redditor confirmed.
back to your subreddit. we don't need your kind nearby.
>>
>>163515991
>we don't need your kind nearby.
le 4chin armie is hereeee
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>163516357
you are in denial my ossy mate.
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>>163510890
Like this, hangin out with gavlan atm
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>>163517234
Jesus that looks god awful
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>>163517234
>dying
are you a man or a schnitzel?
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AH, Anor londo!
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>>163518178
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>>163518178
>>163518657
For supposedly being the city of light or whatever, Anor Londo is pretty fucking dark you know.
>>
>>163515817
>https://www.reddit.com/r/SoulsSliders
Neat, but the only good one seems to be the "Valla the Demon Hunter (Diablo 3)".
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>>163520535
Its the sister fride the best one bud
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