/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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Just saying
(downscaled from 4k)
Next?

first for first

So if the Fire Longsword is DS2's Drake Sword, what's the preferred weapon to use at that point in the game?

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Xth for the Rock is too powerful.

Watch until the end for keks

>>162927360
Rapier
Mace for armored bosses
RIT lategame
Just watch a speedrun you dink

>>162925660
>Worst
60 Fth DMB says hi
Also, the R1 Windmill machine

>>162927360
>So if the Fire Longsword is DS2's Drake Sword
The difference is that it never loses its effectiveness unlike drake sword
>preferred weapon to use at that point in the game
Either it, rapier or some blunt weapon like mace
DS2's great weapons are actually pretty shit as far as actual dps or stun goes compared to lighter blunt or thrusting weapons.

>>162927508
>implying there are not better greatswords for dmb buff

>>162927473
>not posting the dark souls 1 webm
Fuck off faggot

>>162927750
>the dark souls 1 webm

That was probably the most vague thing I've heard all day.

>>162927632
Could you name them then, honestly curious as to what you consider better for DMB

>>162927929
Anything that doesn't split it's damage 3 times?

Would turtling and poking with a spear + leo ring be a viable PvP strategy in DaS1 or will I still get utterly fucked by my inability to do enough damage to stagger anyone?

>>162928273
You'll just get deadangled by anyone who isn't complete shit. You could probably really torment some Parish babbies with such a setup though.

>>162928116
Dude thats the beauty of it
>innate Magic damage
>Extra DMB on top
Why do you think Resin DSA is popular, that shit can deal good damage if you stack the right element

>>162928116
This >>162928575 anon is correct in saying drakeblood is the best GS for DMB (and when buffed, the best GS peroid) because it has so much base magic and lightning damage added to it. Even with the split damage, when using DMB it has the highest AR and damage of all of the greatswords even passing GSoJ.

>>162928798
>highest AR
since when this matters when you have split damage?

>>162929053
>highest AR
>AND
>damage

I tested it on some guy one day wearing firelink set. GSoJ did (if I can recall properly) did 432 damage per R1 and the Drakeblood did 502

>>162929192
I was about to ask you for stats but
>if I can recall properly
you're just pulling it out of your ass

>>162929583
Allow me to go and test it for you then. Give me about 5 minutes.

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>he still plays Arena

>>162930015
>he still plays Souls games

>>162930083
>he still plays games

>>162930202
>he studied has an internet connection

>>162930336
>he studied unironically phoneposts

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>>162930378
>He studied requires oxygen

>>162930378
>he didn't go to college to learn how to shitpost with a mobile device

>>162930401
>he studied has requirements

>>162930467
>he needs a device to shitpost

>>162929583
Tested on millwood dudes

GSoJ build:
29/40/40 STR/Dex/Int
AR 2h Unbuffed: 601
Damage: 530
AR 2h Buffed: 681
Damage: 642

DrakeBlade Refined build:
18/16/9/60 STR/Dex/Int/Fth
AR 2h Unbuffed: 519
Damage: 360
AR 2h Buffed: 754
Damage: 617

I did my testing back before the int buff so I was wrong there. GSoJ my weaponfu still reins supreme. Good thing I hate the drake greatsword

>>162931417
>int build with greatsword of judgment
>can use cool spells
>fth build with drakeblood
>locks yourself with shitty spells because miracles are trash

>tfw you dont know how to make a faith character and jojoposter wont stop platonically bullying you

when will this ride ever end

also post faith weapons besides

>Raw Dragonslayer's Axe
>Lightning-infused Anything
>Raw Astora SS
>Wolnir's Greatsword
>Homoprinces Staightsword
>Any ultras becuase lmao25end
>flail thing

>>162932225
You could always try kys

>>162932225
What about the SS i see a lot of people use that can shoot this white, straight beam?

I haven't gotten far enough to get it myself yet, but it looks faith based and pretty cool imo.

>>162932225
>>Homoprinces Staightsword
>faith weapon
It has E faith scaling at +5. It's a DEX weapon with a FTH requirement
Saint Bident buffed with DMB

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>>162932225
this and any CCS, gotthards or sabre with DMB

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>>162927473
>not putting "he d/c's at the end" in the filename
30 seconds of my life wasted

>>162932685
>not putting "all I do is R1 dark sword and I STILL die" in the filename
30 seconds of my life wasted

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>>162932792
it's not my fault ugs are inconsistently memey with rollcatches

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>>162927473
Did someone say tactical retreat?

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>>162932947
I LOVE disconnect webms.

What's better: warpick or mace? I want to try to make that sort of build work with enough poise to poise through medium weapons at SL35 +4.

>>162927183
is wanderer armor in ds3?

>>162933624
Nope

>>162933583
>this much poise at SL 35

Not possible

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>>162932930
>bloodlusted profaned gs
why

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>>162933814
iunno, memes

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>>162933784

25.85 poise isn't hard to attain with prisoner's chain and knight's ring adding 20 levels on to your person, on top of havel's ring if necessary.

>>162934035
Was this sheet updated with 1.22 regulation changes?
because it's fucking wrong

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When will you return to OUR game? The game with the best online play, Dark Souls 2?

>>162934356

Latest changes only updated ultra weapons (not including CGS's) and halberds to basically need some amount lower than these poise stats.

Everything else should still be the same. They just updated ultras and halberds.

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>>162932685
>dark sword
>fighting a solo fatrolling UGS user
>shitload of mobs and another player on your side
>still dies
fucking lol

>>162934393

Tbqhfam I find all Souls PvP equally shit, all in their own way. I just occasionally play the one that is most active, which is 3

>>162934393
I'd never leave if not for SM. Literally impossible to find players now that the player count is low.

>>162931417
Buffed the Drakeblood with Sunlight Blade or DMB?

>>162935353
The "AR 2h Buffed" was done with DMB. And DMB and Lightning blade have the same stat increase but because "lololol players have more lightning resistance" DMB does more damage and there is no reason to use lightning blade.

I really wish I could PvP on my PS4, but I'm stuck with NAT3, and no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to get the port forwarding trick to work, so I constantly disconnect. It's driving me nuts. I put so many hours into Dark Souls 1 and Demon's Souls PvP, and I want to do the same with Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3, but I can't.

>>162935787
turn on upnp?

>>162927360

Powerstanced rapiers is vastly superior in all ways to fire longsword, just requires more stat investment. Counter modifiers are king in DS2.

>>162934393
no thanks
I have let it die right now so I can wait for ni-oh/nier automata/das3 DLC

>>162933583
Warpick is only good if your opponent is stupid enough to walk straight into your attacks
Mace gives you a lot more options, especially against people who can tank you with HA WAs or etc

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really fires up the ol' neurons

>>162936184
>ni-oh
are you seriously hyped for this souls clone?

>>162936479
How amazing would the dlc have to be to save it?

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>tfw got paid
>tfw getting a PS4 along with Bloodborne tomorrow
I'm not gonna get conned into buying a Pro but what are the noob traps I should avoid in terms of the PS4 purchase?

Also for BB I pretty much have to get the GOTY edition to get the DLC without using a credit card, right?

>>162935847
I checked that, and the router firewall. No dice

>>162936673
A mistake is buying it from somewhere like gamestop or walmart. If you look hard enough you'll probably be able to find someone nearby that doesn't want theirs anymore that you could buy for $100 easy. ($100 is how much gamestop will pay for their PS4)

Also bloodborne online is dead. You'll be able to summon people sometimes but invasions are non-existent.

whats the minimum SL to make warden blades shine?

>>162936903
802

>>162936534
gameplay wise it's much better and the story looks ok

>>162936479
>>162934991
<1m: Invasions
1m to 2m for low level Duels
4m to 5m for mid level Duels
5m to 8,999,999 for high level duels (at 9m you start accessing the 45m+ tier)

Iron Keep Bridge or botherhood of blood for where to find players.

If you want to invade, go by the SM rewards from bosses:

SM from bosses only at Lost Sinner, minus belfry gargoyles:
151000 (Your SM to invade at this level: 70,000 to 179,999)

SM from bosses before you reach Iron Keep: 243,000 (Your SM to invade at this level: 130,000 to 279,999)

SM from bosses once reaching Drangleic
467000 (your SM to invade: 270,000 to 499,999)

SM from bosses after clearing drangleic:
603000 (your SM to invade: 350,000 to 699,999)

SM from bosses after acquiring giant souls and beating Vendrick (+100,000 for giant farming)
1183000 (your SM to invade: 700,000 to 1,199,999)

SM from bosses after clearing DLC and darklurker:
2,364999 (your SM to invade: 1,400,000 to 2,499,999)

Add maybe 10% to each number

Anything above 3M SM is NG+ or duel territory.

So if you're at 600k SM, you should be invading around Castle Drangleic.

>>162936852
Okay I've checked and nobody selling their ps4s at a reasonable price. I'll take the dive and hope it'll be worth it new.
Was just checking if there are specific models that I should avoid.
Thanks anyway.

And I probably won't be playing online.

>>162936964
XD

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u guys ready to praise that sun :)?

>>162936903
the one that let's you get 40 in luck while not compromising on other stats too much

>>162937012
Also, when building your PvP profile, don't use soul items, upgrade only minimum equipment and back up your saves regularly at each of the benchmarks. That way you can hop onto an older save and use soul items and upgrade materials whenever you want to make a pvp build.

If you do it right, it's way easier to make multiple builds than with DS1's system because of the soul vessel.

Also back up your favorite builds so you can PvP without wearing agape ring.

>>162937362
>no designated SL
Cool so I can be SL 802 right?

I'm running through Duke's Archives for the first time ever
When do I stop getting shot from behind while getting magic cast at me from above while three crystal hollows jump at me from the front?

>>162937012
high SM duels are the best

>>162937480
DS1 is a masterpiece, fuck off.

>>162937362
100% chance of being a gank squad

>>162937362
literally trash event idea
do you want fights that last a full five minutes or something?

>>162937480
Lure the crystal hollows and get gud.

>>162937502
Honestly my favorite duels are below 2m because battles have less leeway to them. You can still 3-4 hit combo people to death. At high level duels it's the same strategy but it takes 2-3x longer to kill someone, so they catch onto tricks and combos a lot faster. Less risk, less reward.

>>162937858
It's fine, the guy shooting magic from above is just an annoying cunt
Also, I'm not sure why the bow guys deal more damage than some bosses

>>162937853
if its so trash then why is bandai namco sponsoring it :) ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QqApF6W544

praise that sun! :))

>invade a guy
>blue gets summoned
>summoning a phantom
>summoning another phantom
>I don't just rush in but wait to ambush them in the level near some good mobs
>blue has returned home
>phantom has returned home
>phantom has returned home
>summoning another phantom
>summoning another phantom
>wait longer just to see what happens, laughing
>eventually "phantom has returned home" x2
>some more time passes, summons another phantom
>he eventually tries progressing through the level with 1 phantom
>I delete them once they trigger the mob I'm hanging out next to

God, that's gotta be one of my favorite invasions of all time right there. The key is patience, children. I wish I could upload this over 15 minute shitfest.

>>162937480
Once you leave

>>162937012
Does Looking Glass Knight only summon on NG+?
And roughly what sm should I be to get summoned?

>>162938000
That's what I do every time a host is camping a bonfire for phantom summon refresh.

Eventually he either kills himself, or he runs out and I ambush them when they fight the kettlethrowers

>>162937901
i stopped doing low SM PvP after i ran into 5 twinks in a row. fuck those guys

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>>162937969
>it's a scott jund thing

oh, i didn't know, i thought you made it yourself.
y-you're not actually subscribed to him on youtube right? Right?

>>162937362
>no tricks
>can't take off your pants for a quick tactical distraction

Shit event desu

>>162938378
What? You're not subscribed to Scott "our guy" Jund?
He left reddit for us friend!

>>162938378
this is bandai namco's brainchild, scott was dragged in later i think

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>>162937362
SL?
Area?
What do they mean "No Tricks"?

fug

>>162938185
For co-op, add up all the total boss soul rewards (like I did in the previous post) for each area, then at ~10% for enemies. Plug that number into this and that shows you the range where you can be for white sign to work:

http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Summon+Range+Calculator

Looking glass summons in NG, you have to invade in Drangleic castle though.

>>162937969
Bandai will "sponsor" anything that gets enough likes on facebook. By that all it means is that maybe they put it on their facebook or twitter page.

There's nothing 'official' about it. This is a crock of shit made by someone who desperately wants to be taken seriously.

Bandai will offer prizes for Armored Core tournaments as long as you have a decent number of facebook followers. If they aren't doing the same for this guy, then that means it's even less of a legit thing.

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>>162938203

In the cathedral I'm a big fan of either camping out at the grave warden or if they go downstairs, near the macaroni monsters. If any of them get bled out by the winblades or the leeches it's game over, I love that shit. I've had people be trying to run away and just drop dead from leech procs.

These days I've gotten to the point mentally where I never run in if I see the summon phantom thing, or I peak in while I have obscuring ring on and there's at least 1 phantom there. I feel like if I attack them at the bonfire they get it in their head that they can stay forever, yet for some reason if they never see me they'll eventually just start playing the level normally and when they finally run into me during an ambush, it's too late and they're too far away from the bonfire by that point.

Seeing this stuff (sorry for shit quality, 3MB limit is suffering) just made me laugh so hard, I literally didn't even care about the invasion at that point, I honestly just wanted to see how many people he'd summon and how many times they'd crystal out. I mean this shit had to have happened at least 5 or 6 times before he finally got a single sunbro to come with him it was hilarious.

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>>162940102
>implying you get anything from this
kek

>>162941087
>no rings
>as if they'll be able to enforce that
>chloranthy ring life ring and RoF everywhere

>>162941087

Is this on PC? I really hope this is on PC.

I hope it gets livestreamed and someone joins and curses everyone. We need that curseanon who responds to everything he doesn't like with "do this? you're getting cursed" to fuck up this event.

>>162938000
>The key is patience
this
"Patient invasions" are the best kind of invasions
I remember invading gankers in gank city, using obscuring ring and a greatbow. Waiting for the to come on the roof with the Silver Knights and then shooting them was so much fun.

Anyway if some of you are up for it I can host a FC in a few hours. Not right now because I'm enjoying the fuck out of another game.

Whats a fun weapon to pair with pontiff rings and wolf?

>>162941241
>hornets ripostes you
psh nothing personnel

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>>162941309

>>162928273

Nobody knows how to play Dark Souls I anymore. I play like a complete shitter, and I never get parried or dead angled(750 hours in Dark Souls I since 2015)

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How the fuck do I into dll interception

>>162942119
all good players dropped ds1 a long time ago or just gather in small fight clubs
you can probably pull the most retarded shit in township that could get you wrecked non-stop if you played at the game's prime

>>162941595
virtually anything with good combo potential
so most paired weapons above all

>>162941309
>>162942005

I'm not the "ur getin curshed" anon but I do plan on doing a "One-Punch Man" build for it. Just show up in random invasions/livestreams and 1 shot people with a fist.

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>actually kinda enjoyed full STR playthrough of DS2
>never used UGS in DS3
>turns out they can dish even more damage than in DS2 thanks to fully charged r2s
>that sexy as fuck tracking on vertical ugs in DS3
>those sexy warcry movesets
Holy fuck getting a nearly 1000 damage against NK with BKGS' 2hr2 is just golden.
Wish DS3's Fume wasn't badly nerfed, now i kinda even want to do a DS3 ugs run.

>>162943315
One shooting people? You are getting cursed

Guys, I played Dark Souls 1 and 3. I now want to pla Dark Souls 2 the supposedly worst in the series. Should I get the original or Scholar of the first Sin?

>>162943395
Cursing people? You are getting cursed

>>162943432
Scholar. There is no point in default 2 anymore since scholar has all the dlc, new npc, new npc placements, and has the "no soul memory" ring.

>>162942119
on pc maybe, on ps3 the same jap hyperautists are still there

>>162943432
The original is better but Scholar comes with the DLC.

>>162943481
>new npc placements,
It makes everything worse.

>>162943481
>>162936479
The basic DaS2 is also pretty much dead compared to Scholar.

>>162943481
>has the "no soul memory" ring
at this point ds2 is so dead there's honestly no reason to bother with it unless you want to bully the few random goers that will fuck off after your first invasion

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>>162943560
>original is better
>literally the same game but scholar has DLC, aldia, forlorn dude, and expanded online
>new npc placements make everything worse

Is there nothing you will not say to make yourself more retarded?

There is NO point to getting default 2 at all. If there is an option to get either, scholar will be better in every aspect. It's a massive cash grab, but if you didn't have default 2 you should never get it.

>>162943560
no it isn't. SOTFS takes the trash known as DS2, and turns it into the best souls game baring Demon souls.

>>162943649
SotFS literally has 2,500 people playing it right now. That is very far from dead.

>>162944101
It isn't worth it. He's never going to understand that he says things that make no sense without thinking it through.

If you handed him one apple, he ate it, then handed him an exact atomically same apple, he would say the first was better.

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>>162944101
DS2 is never going to be anywhere close to being the best in anything and adding horses to the rooms they shouldn't be able to fit unless the room was built around them sure as fuck won't make it better.

>>162944101
lol, thanks, I needed a good laugh

>>162944256
hunger is the best spice

>>162944247
He was talking about base DS2 which has like 500-600 people and I would say it's pretty dead.

>Play Dark Souls III for the first time
>My rolls can effortlessly carry me across an entire room, and barely cost anything
>My stomach lurches as I realize I'm expected to spam rolls in this game

Almost made me throw up in my mouth

>>162943361
>turns out they can dish even more damage than in DS2
Eh, nah, DS2 ultras could do 900+ a hit with just an r1

DS2 was a higher damage, higher HP kinda game

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>>162944247
It feels very dead thanks to SM
Basically all those 2500 people are spread across the game at such varying SM tiers and locations even seeing 1-2 signs somewhere is a lot, and after you invade maybe 3 hosts in some location it goes to permanent "can't invade anyone lol" status for at least next 30 minutes.

I'd say i saw more empty locations than locations with signs, and only was invaded once outside of bell tower which ain't brimming with activity as well.

>>162944461
>Eh, nah, DS2 ultras could do 900+ a hit with just an r1
Not really unless you're talking about some ridiculously overbuffed SL250+ character, the highest damage i got even counting the blunt damage bonus is around 650 per r1 maybe. And while DS3 does less per r1, r1s of UGS themselves are faster, have more stopping power and wayy better tracking. But honestly they aren't the main source of pve damage, charged R2s and WAs are.

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Round of applause for this guy with 30 vig and a life ring.

>>162944545
You know bonfires indicate active areas right?

>>162944771

Your webms are boring. They all look the same.

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>>162944771
could be worse

medium shields are so shit for parrying, let me setup parry something smaller than a greatsword ffs ...

>>162944273
DS2 SOFTS shits on Ds1. Let's not be delusional here. everyone seems to forget about the trash bosses DS1 had. Capra demon? Tarus Demon? Fuckin pinwheel? Bed of Chaos?

Ds1 had a handful of good bosses, and then every other one was just pure shit. DS2 had to many bosses, and you had trash like Dual Dragon riders. but at least DS2 had more than O/S, Gwyen, Knight artorious. 3 bosses, congrats DS1. you can't even get 5 decent bosses.

>>162944256
he sounds like a retard. haven't met a single person who actually thinks DS2, is better than SOFTS.

>>162944101
lmao nice joke pham

>>162944727
>r1s of UGS themselves are faster
That's not true lad
The damage comes out far faster on DaS2 ultras, you've forgotten
>have more stopping power
Only in the arena against unembered opponents. Impossible to stop chugging.
>wayy better tracking
Generally yeah, though some DaS2 ultras can spin around 720 degrees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unPSHBCLlIA

>>162944910
This but also please swap to a different weapon when you riposte
Scythe is too awful looking

>>162945015
>Capra demon? Tarus Demon?
Is this a joke?

>>162944929
>772 hp embered
>gold arena badge
how the fuck

>>162944896
Yes, and i'm talking about activity in those locations. Seeing even one sign is rare, seeing two is almost impossible. There never was a situation when bell tower was as empty as it is now, i remember going into sol even at 4m at some point and still getting invaders frequently, now it's extremely underpopulated to a point i can invade a single person repeatedly for like 5 times with no one else.

@162945015
3/10 bait, no (You) for you.

>>162945071
Ds1 bosses are a joke.

>>162944771
>947 hp
Not even.
That's 25 VIG and no life ring or RoFaP

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>>162944545

See this is why I still love DaS3 with around 6k players on PC regularly. I make an effort to play it as my main game now because of how much I enjoy invasions but also because I know there will come a day where it's dead like that and I literally just won't really be able to do invasions anymore even if I wanted to. Trying to get my time in while it's still possible.

I really hope they make a DaS4 or something like it, something with the invasion mechanic. I don't know any other game that has this sort of mechanic with this sort of medieval combat, it's pretty unique (though unfortunately that leaves you wondering where the fuck else to get it if/when this dies). Like, I still have yet to go back and play the other souls games but I know when I do it'll mostly be for the single player, and honestly even if I get invaded it'll probably be by some cheater or super twink so it wouldn't even be fun, I'd just get rekt by some unfair shit which makes me even less interested. Not like when those games were in their prime and you could probably fight against people going through the game normally the majority of the time, like you can with DaS3 now.

>>162945021
>That's not true lad
This is true. I jumped from DS2 to DS3 and speed difference, though it's not as high as it should be compared to pace of DS3, is still noticeable for all ultras with the exception of greatclubs.
>Only in the arena against unembered opponents
Not talking about pvp at all, who the fuck will want to use those things in pvp of any game anyways, they are a fun pve weapon class.
In DS2 there's a shitload of enemies with enormous amount of poise, in DS3 ultras generally have way better stopping power against any kind of enemy including big ones.

>>162945015
manus takes a huge dump on all ds2 bosses at once

>>162945073
OSs with HCSM + CSS

>>162945431
nope. Manus is a shit tier boss anyways. DS2 bosses are overall far superior to DS1 bosses, this is a fact. O/S isn't even a A tier boss, it's B+at best.

Ds1 bosses were shit, this is a statistical Fact. don't like it? too bad you are wrong.

>>162942780
could I do it effectively with Wardenblades or gotthards then?

>>162944910
sorry my man gonna kill myself in the corner
>>162945048
I've never played with scythes before and found them kind of fun, but lack of hyper armor is really shitty. Also learning parry timing for different weapons at the same time
>>162945229
This is a hornet riposte, 182+947 and you know the rest.

>>162945293
DS3 will be way more active even with smaller userbase because the entire game is built around idea of concentrating a huge number of players in certain areas. I will always be able to invade high wall at SL10-15 and get stable invasions, i will always be able to invade settlement at 20 and get a lot of activity, i will always be able to go for 50 +6 and get a shitton of midgame invasions because there's always people in this SL and upgrade range in those locations.

This is why i also don't hate DS3's linearity, for general activity per area it's a fucking blessing.

>>162945620

True. I hope it works out that way if they don't make a DaS4 (or equivalent) because invasions are so much goddamn fun. At 60 and below I almost never see seeds and I'm happy to fight ganks if I can keep retreating through waves of mobs.

Two questions.
Can I reroll stats in bloodborne and should I rush through DLC once I have access or wait?

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>>162945806
seed generally don't bother me if location has an area free of enemies i can just hide in and wait till host gets to the limit of his resources
ariandel is probably one of the best invasion areas in the entire franchise because of this and other reasons

>>162945293
>DaS 3 baby
Your opinion is less relevant than the faggot saying 2 is the best game

>>162946260
back to /v/, trash

>>162945553
The worst offense when it comes to bosses in DaS1 is recycling concepts from DeS.

>>162945553
Fucking kek. DS2 literally had the worst bosses, enemies and environments out of any souls game.

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>>162944929
>>162945073

GLORY TO THE 16 VIGOR MASTER RACE
WHO NEEDS HP AT SL 120?

>>162945610
That's not how riposite damage works

>>162945015
>>162945123
DS2 had the most forgettable, uninspired, boring and easy bosses in all of the souls games
not to mention the lack of memorable environment, ost or even lore to redeem them

>>162946023

The main problem is that the seed is usually tied with professional gank squads who have no intention of actually progressing through the level. It mostly because a matter of whether you want to wait there doing nothing for 10+ minutes just to grief them (since they aren't doing anything either all this time) while you watch a video in your 2nd monitor or do something else in general, or if you're like me and once you figure out what's going on just leave and go invade someone else. It's why SL60 and below is so good because you almost never run into that bullshit, so the rare times you do it's not a big deal to just leave because like 95% of the time or more it's fun and people actually try to progress through the level, at least eventually.

Believe me, though. There are definitely times where I'll literally just occupy an invader slot and wait the fuckers out, it feels good knowing they're sitting there unable to play the game. I can't either but that's why I always have something ready to do or watch in case shit happens, so at least I can make those assholes suffer and prevent other invaders from having to deal with that shit.

>>162946767
I don't really follow you, you can see 2 damage instances from hornet ring which combined give you 1129 damage and that's his whole hp bar.

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>>162946839
>sotfs added an even worse final boss than nashandra
>you just spend 5 minutes chasing his ass around and doding his utterly predictable moveset

>>162946759
a true glass cannon
>who needs vigor, I'm not gonna get hit anyway

>>162946962
>R1R1 a guy
>first number that shows up is 300, second number that shows up is 600

Did my second hit deal 600 damage? You should be able to solve this

>the SL36 shitposter is the loudest voice in defense of DaS3
goddamn, I thought the DaS2 niggers had it bad

>>162947173
Yes:^)

>>162941309

If you aren't doing it, I will

>>162947230
I prefer 3 to 2 and I only invade SL 130. I know it's not for everyone so I never post it. Please don't associate me with him

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>>162946023
>>162946938

tl;dr I deal with seeds or ganks, I feel like it's a good rule of thumb. Depending on the situation (generally, that they're trying to actually progress through the level along with seed), I'll deal with 1v2's + seed. Depends on the situation.

>>162946427
the fucking kek is on you DS1 had the most uninsparing bosses f the series, this is a fact. don't like it too bad your opinon is wrong.

>>162946402
DS1 bosses are just the worst in the series, it's not even up for debate, seriously over 80% of it's bosses are either: Demons with gigant weapons, Dragon God tier puzzle fights, or bosses who are the exact copy of themselves, Assylum Demon X3.

it's the most lazy game in the series.

>>162946839
wrong, but it's okay because your entire life you have been wrong on everything.

DS1 had the better lore. but had just as many shitty levels as 2 did. bosses were a massive step down from Demon souls, and DS2 still with it's massive amount of shit bosses had better boss design.

>Tarus Demon
>Vagina Dragon
>Bed of chaos
>Ceasless Discharge
>Assylum Demonx3
>Blight town
>Anor londo the city of Greatbows
>Gwyen just parry me, and I die


>lol DS1 bosses in a nuttshell. get keked DS1 babys.

DS1 was babys first Soul game, only the truly bad players think it's anywhere near close to being decent. Demon/Ds2,DS3 all shit on it.

>>162947359
make sure to record it and post webms if you do. also any hatemail.

>>162947230
>>162946368

>>162947345
Smart girl, keep on parrying

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>>162946427
>>162947457

>DaS3 guy sittin here like...

>>162947678
Thanks daddy :^)

>>162941087
>>162941087
"Community manager" is their name for their social media interns. That's literally all it is. They pay some 21 year old to post on their twitter, and when someone wants to have a 'tournament' they 'sponsor' it by posting it on facebook and twitter and reddit. It's just copypasta from whatever rules the guy decided to come up with.

The closest thing to an 'official' tournament that they do is send prizes to their community managers to distribute to the winners of tournaments and such. They won't do that if the person is just a random nobody and doesn't have traction on their social media.

It's a load of shit, don't buy into it.

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Wait... people actually watch this shit?

Last time I saw it I popped in real quick to see what it was all about and it was literally 2 guys with 2 handed gargoyle FS's trying to land running attacks. I groaned out loud and left.

I don't get it.

>>162937969
>Fighting with fist only
>Start losing
>*unzips CCS*

PC FC WHERE?

>>162947695
DaS3 is just dickriding on DaS1 while being too afraid to get it's own character.

>>162947896

>*points down*

>>162947963
DaS1 is just dick riding on DeS

>>162934393
base game is too hellish to even incentivize me to make a new character

>>162947457
I have never seen a game fanbase so autistic as the ds2 fanbase. Just look at the posts of that guy

>>162947963
souls games are just dickriding king's field

>>162947887
>high skill pvp meta

Does Lingering Dragoncrest Ring extend the duration of weapon buff bundles?

>>162947457
>Demon's has good bosses
>shits on DaS which was pretty much the exact same
Tip toppity kek.
The bosses in Demon's were mostly even bigger jokes than the DaS1 bosses.

>Blighttown
The fact that you're claiming it was a bad level outs that you know nothing about Souls

>invade a guy
>he's sitting at the bonfire
>he sees me at a distance and gets up
>he starts to bow
>eats a crossbow bolt to the face

I laugh every time.

I'm here to rape you, this is not consensual, ready your asshole because it's about to get remodeled.

>>162948059
>complete Fotfg, an actual good area
>get enough souls for cat ring + vig
>ascetic spam rotten
>skip base game

>>162947963
Just like ds2.

>>162948164

No. But they last longer now (10 seconds) and you can carry 20 of 2 different types so it's really not a problem.

Dark Souls X Drakengard

>>162948337
I don't remember going to Anor Londo in DaS2.

>>162948243
>swap to WoB, summon my buttbuddies as they sacrifice themselves endlessly to seeded PvE and I ressumon them without ever fighting
>eventually force a BC or you get ganked to death as I start summoning them from the boss fog and walk inside if I stay alone

Heh, welcome to Dark Souls, kid

>>162948218
please I think you need to get back to playing your bed of Chaos.

Demon souls bosses were on another planet, compared to DaS1. it's okay DaS1 baby we all know it was your first souls game, and you were bad in it, even though it was the most casualized Souls game in the series.

>impying Blighttown isn't the most shitty designed poisen swamp area in the souls game.

truly DaS1 baby your shit taste is showing.

>>162948143
well at least DS2 still has a fanbase, look how dead DaS2 is....

1/10

>>162948468
I don't remember fighting Ornstein in DaS3.

>>162948550
Can you even switch covenants when invaded?

I haven't played since launch

Have they fixed poise yet? Is going full havel viable now?

>>162948657
You can.

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>>162948320
>play DaS2
>play Forest of the Fallen Giants
>"wow this is a pretty cool level I wonder how good the rest of the game is gonna be if this is the first level?"
>every level after Fotfg is inferior except maybe Bastille
The DLC areas were the real Dark Souls2.

>>162948337

Ds2 is dick-riding Shadow Tower and King's Field harder than any other souls game.

>>162948550
>turns on CE and curses you all

Pffft, nothin' personal, kid.

What's the best small bow and how can I use it to pelt my enemies to death?

>>162948607
I don't remember Andre in DaS2.

>>162948683
Poise is "fixed".

It's now how poise was in DS1, but it is what they wanted it to be now. Basically, you have have an invisible "HP" bar of poise that refills when you swing. Each weapon does so much damage to that bar, if your bar is depleted (aka someone uses a heavier, more poise damage weapon against your weaker poise) then you get staggered. If you have more poise than they can damage to it, then you will not get staggered as you swing.

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is there a reason why valorheart has such a disgustingly large jump attack hitbox?

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>>162948790
the real dark souls 2 starts here

>>162947393
i honestly don't get the appeal to ganksquads, me and my friend tried it out in ds1 against forest invaders and it got boring after 10 mins

>>162948928
Duel bow and dignified bow are for real honorobu duelers.
Proper bow/regular bow are for nerds.

>>162927183
ds1 had insanely well scaling and high resolution item and armor models, at least on the PC version

i would assume the console versions would have had lower quality models because having the ability to scale them so high would be wasteful on the console platforms

>>162948056
i would say ds3 dick rides des more then ds1

At what point does deep dagger stop being fucking insane for ripostes (while weighing nearly nothing and requiring literally zero stat investment)? Because at +4 I'm pretty sure it's the best riposte weapon possible, getting in the 600-700 range regularly at SL35.

Is there any interest for a PC FC at Lothric Castle?
SL 120 pass is /dsg/

>>162949095
Good demonstration of why you shouldn't be a panic-rolling retard, but what's the relevance?

>>162948969
I don't remember bell gargoyles in DaS3.

>>162949095
why are you doing a co-op location alone?

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>>162949293
>>162948969
>>162948607
>>162948468

>>162944461
>>162944727

>He thinks he needs SL250 to do 900 damage....

Buffed infused dark pursuer's UGS at 40/20/20/20 + dark clutch + rob
404 physical AR (295 damage after defense)
557 elemental AR (390 damage after defense)

After 1.4x counter modifier and 1.2x 2H modifier: 1150 damage.

And that leaves you with 74 stats to put somewhere else before you even reach SL150.

Basically if you get the counter hit on any buffed+infused UGS in DS2, you're going to do a minimum of 900 damage, and you don't need huge stat investment to get it.

I mean, hell, Raw LSS's 2HR1 can hit 850 damage -without rings- and that only requires *30* stat investment.

Against SL150 people, that's 2/3rd of their health bar from a 2HR1.

>>162949314
tfw i did all the co-op spots alone because i didn't know they were co-op

>>162949293
I don't remember meeting Siegmeyer's doppelganger in DaS2.

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For Jott Scund's "official" event

>>162949172

Kids being assholes I guess. I mean at least with pro gank squads I "get it", like the crusaders. What I really don't get are the people who summon like 3 phantoms scaled down (so they're probably at least meta level if not SL420blazeit or some shit) with way of the blue on top of that.

I was thinking about it and it's basically the equivalent of a little brother handing the controller over to his big brother and saying "please beat this game for me?" because you're essentially not even playing the game at that point, you're just watching your buttbuddies play it for you. Like what's even the point?

It confuses me even more because you can literally just run past all of the enemies and just summon a million phantoms at the boss fog, you could even play offline if you don't want to be invaded. But no, they just summon their friends to play the game for them while they watch.

I can't really complain though, because who else could I derive my fun from if not these scrubs who I invade?

>>162949465
Yeah, each DLC has co-op area that people without DLC could get summoned to. Fun mechanic, but also pointless in SotFS.

>>162949603
>1
Seems legit. Your stats are retarded either way.

>>162949789
>not understand Phisto

>>162949592
I don't remember seeing the bed of chaos in DaS3.

>>162949095

>WAAAH WAAH WHY CAN'T MY 70% LOAD CHARACTER ROLL WELL

Fuck you

>>162949881

I don't remember seeing that in DS2 either

>>162949931
looks more like 70 agl than 70 equip

>>162949881
What now?

>>162949740
Less effort = more funny when you win

It's not about winning for the gank squads, it's about laughing and getting all 'hype' over dumb shit.

>>162950005
You didn't played the DLCs then.
Also, I don't remember seeing rule63 Nito in DaS3.

>>162949256
Lothric castle is kind of big, I don't know.

>>162949603
1. it's not his event
2. he can see your stats

>>162950123
old chaos isn't the bed of chaos though

>>162949864
>>162949603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDekhoeEoCc

"I CALL HIM FISTER ROBOTO"

>>162950186
It literally is.

>>162950168
1. Doesn't matter he made video
2. You're point?

>>162950123
then you didn't pay attention in irithyll

>>162950168
1. Doesn't matter, he made the video and it's /ourguyjottscund/
2. You're point?

>>162950273
I like this name more. I shall use this. Now I just have to get some goofy ass sliders for him

>>162950319
no, it literally isn't. bed of chaos is a boss. old chaos is an area.

>>162950137
The bonfire called Lothric Castle. Just before Dragon Barracks.

>>162950425
In ancient times, the Witch of Izalith attempted to recreate the First Flame with the Lord Soul that was in her possession. Instead, she spawned a corrupted fire known as the Flame of Chaos. When she failed to control the new flame, it consumed her and molded her into a twisted being known as the Bed of Chaos, the source of all demons.

Eventually, the Bed of Chaos was destroyed by the Chosen Undead, but the flames of Chaos lived on. At an unknown point, the flames of Chaos were discovered deep below the kingdom of Eleum Loyce. In an attempt to appease the raging flame, the Ivory King built a great cathedral at its mouth and the oracle of Eleum Loyce, Alsanna, prayed in silent vigilance. The attempt was unsuccessful and the flames still raged.

The king made some attempts to combat the Chaos, and his knights delved valiantly into the depths to exterminate the terrible things that dwelled there, but not one of them returned. Eventually, the Ivory King sensed the degradation of his soul and left Eleum Loyce. He traveled deep into the Chaos with his knights until he was devoured by the flames.

>>162950067

Yeah either way I'm just glad rarely see the real "professional" ones, the ones who know all of the ways to abuse the system to the maximum. Most of the time it's just some bad kid who summoned his friends to play the game for him, all of them usually being shitty R1 spammers and then I show up and fuck their shit up.

The best times are when you have long invasions where you keep retreating further and further into the level and they don't seed, where they know you're out there but don't know when you'll strike because you have obscuring ring on. When they're fighting some mobs and all of a sudden one of their phantoms gets killed and they're suddenly alone.

Winning against all odds as an invader is thrilling and incredibly satisfying and fulfilling when you pull it off (especially if you win through resummons too). Legit ganking seems like the opposite, a power trip that only little kids think is "funny". Like the kind of kids who used aimbot in counterstrike.

>>162950526
so, are you agreeing with me? flames of chaos=/=bed of chaos.

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>>162950273
>>162950406
How do you like the sliders?

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FC cancelled. Noone came.

>>162936673
Don't listen to the other guy about coop. I constantly get summoned.

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Fucking jacked bro.

>>162950123

I did

If you're talking about the Old Chaos then you're just retarded

For future reference, try not to be so blatantly obvious and over the top when you're trying to bait people into getting pissy. Subtlety is key.

Also, does anyone know if the Archdeacon's Great Staff deals respectable damage with sorceries at 60+ faith? I would assume it's not that great, but I'd prefer to know before getting all those dregs.

>>162950067

Yeah either way I'm just glad rarely see the real "professional" ones, the ones who know all of the ways to abuse the system to the maximum. Most of the time it's just some bad kid who summoned his friends to play the game for him, all of them usually being shitty R1 spammers and then I show up and fuck their shit up.

The best times are when you have long invasions where you keep retreating further and further into the level and they don't seed, where they know you're out there but don't know when you'll strike because you have obscuring ring on. When they're fighting some mobs and all of a sudden one of their phantoms gets killed and they're suddenly alone.

Winning against all odds as an invader is thrilling and incredibly satisfying and fulfilling when you pull it off (especially if you win through resummons too). Legit ganking seems like the opposite, a power trip that only little kids think is "funny". Like the kind of kids who used aimbot in counterstrike.

>>162951138
Make legs extra skinny

>>162950828
I just got on I'm sorry i would have attended

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Incredibly dirty...

>>162951520
are you cheating or is that a legitimate build?

>>162950735
You're gorgeous, please share.

Havent played this game since April and have a few questions for you guys:
Did you guys ever come to a conclussion on what the PVP meta level is? I just want to go Pure STR, is that ok? What class should I start with?

Is DaS3 considered easier or harder than other entries?

>>162951796

120-125.

If you want to go STR go Warrior. Pure STR has a few viable weapons like Yhorm's Great Machete, Gundyr's Halberd, Millwood Battle Axe and the Great Club.

>>162951720
99 STR
FLYNN RING
NOTHING BUT A LOIN CLOTH

EVERY DAY IS UPPER BODY DAY

The gods have shined upon me and given me the strength of Hercules

>>162951720
:^)

>>162951823
The tutorial boss in 3rd is the hardest of all souls, then it's comparable to others, I guess.

>>162951823
It depends on the individual. I thought the bosses in DS3 were the hardest out of all the base Souls games

>>162952014
How viable are pyromancers? Really just want to avoid quality because thats all I saw when this game came out

>>162952057
did flynns get buffed up in 3 or am i doing my flynns build wrong on 2

>>162936601
Unironically Old Hunter tier.

>>162951823
I haven't played it, but it cannot be easier than 2.

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>>162951720

>>162949931
Agility has more to do with the rolls being shit than equip load.
I went through DaS2 on my first character with base ADP and was having a terrible time. Now I always level ADP up first until I've got like 93 AGI and steamroll through everything.

>>162951823
Your hardest Souls game is gonna be the first one you started with.

But generally I'd rank DS3 above DS2 and Demon's, under DS1 and BB. The bosses in DS3 would absolutely destroy players stuck on pre-Bloodborne mechanics, but DS3 gives you much more ppwerful dodgerolls.

>>162952436
AEEERTRTTHAAS NOT AGAIN!!!!!

>>162952161
The Judge?

>>162952438
BB was my first. Found it tough but doable. DaS3 might be too different and taking forever to get used to.

>>162952436
hackers plz go

>>162952229
Flynn in DS2:

50 AR at 60 max equip weight
0 AR at 85 equip weight


= -2 AR for every 1 unit of max equip weight

So that means that every point in vitality drops your AR by 3.

>>162952219

Pyromancy is the best class of magic relatively right now for PvP and PvE. Go to weapons are the generic 'best' weapons dark infused since players have less dark defense on average and dark stats scale off INT/FAI the same way pyro does. The best pyro spells are Fire Surge to put pressure on players at mid-distance, Chaos Bed Vestiges as your generic nuke, Black Flame with the Pyromancer's Parting Flame from the DLC as the special effect of that flame makes Black Flame very strong and Black Serpent to force pressure across a larger distance. Spells like Boulder Heave, Great Chaos Fire Orb, Fire Whip and Bursting Fireball also may be of use to you. The go to melee weapon for pyros now is the Onyx Blade from the DLC, a Greatsword that scales terrifically off pyro stats that is also the longest GS in the game.

>>162952161
Gundyr isn't harder than Papa G

>>162952438
Agility only afefcts i-frames. His rolls are shit because he's he's rolling for DISTANCE. Which is why 70% equip load is a dumb idea. You get 30% longer rolls at 50% equip load.

>>162952585
>of all souls
>SOULS

>>162952497
nou 100 ar doesn't do nuttin. I just need to feel my pecs rip apart every time I flex

>>162952547
yeah that's what i thought. im doing 10 vit because i can stay below 33% with my dagger

>>162952585
The Cleric Beast is technically the first boss in Bloodborne, not the Dogfather.

>>162951520
Aerthas how do I unban

>>162952882
If you're TRUELY asking how to get unbanned I can tell you.

It's not possible after you've gotten the 'You have been penalized' message. If you haven't got that and you've only got the 'Invalid game data detected' then you can just delete your save and wait until the next patch. Usually you'll get unbanned by then.

Otherwise, you can family share :^)[/spoiler[

>>162952882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5vQ_GzV7VI
>tfw there's vac ban message in debug menu

>>162953018
Yeah I have been penalized.

I family shared but is there a way to use my old characters?

holy shit avelyn with exploding bolts is amazing vs ganks.

It also shits all over cocky casters, I've played for over 800 hours and never picked it up until now.

>>162952748
There's really no point to go below 30% in dark souls 2. It gives you ~10% further rolls but basically prevents you from having backup weapons or armor. 500 points of armor = 1 max flynn's ring in terms of damage.

Lower percentage does improve stamina recovery, but you're better off equipping chloranthy than lowering your armor weight below 50%.

Basically, go 70% if you use long range weapons (no need to roll as far to counter hit) and go 50% if you light or short weapons (straight swords, rapiers, etc.).

There is a rock-paper-scissors game regarding elemental damage vs physical damage, mostly in whether you invest points in Faith for GMB or Sacred Oath, and whether your infuse+buff or use RobFlynn.

>>162953168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igy4k-rFqSs

Not sure how well this works anymore because I hear it doesn't work then I hear it does.

But I know you have to have the same amount of junk characters on your new account as you did on your old one so it can properly line up the saves.

>>162953429
Yeah doesn't work either.
Tried making same amount of characters to "match" too, but it fails to load.
Think it's safe to use some speed hacks and lock hp/stam to clear pve?

>>162953369
>>162952748
* no reason to go below 50%.

There's also no reason to go below 30%.

0% 100%
10% - 95%
30% - 90%
50% - 80%
70% - 65%
100%- 65%
120% - 60%

Stick with 50% equip load without rings, then have royal soldier in backup in case you want to do a heavy weapon build at 70%.

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>That whip holster

Why is From so fucking lazy

>>162953369
>tfw 51% if i use my BKGS with shadow dagger sidearm
also, is mundane better than flynns? i was gonna farm to SL450 so i could do a 50 mundane build but i didnt know if it's better than flynns

>>162953687
>using a whip
naughty boy

how do i into leo ring? i just don't understand how to consistently get counterthrusts instead of just lucking into them sometimes?

>>162953687
>generic resin animation on all weapons instead of reusing the das1 DMB animation for shorter weapons
really makes you think

>>162951823
My impression was that it had easier areas overall compared to DaS1 and DaS2, but harder bosses on average than either of those games as well.

>>162954208
try shield poke with a rapier/spear or trading with warpick/pickaxe, although i'm not really sure myself.

>>162953687
It looks better one beefier outfits, you're just using a stickman today

Any FC going on ? If not I can host

Lost Izalith isn't anywhere near as bad as the great hollow in the worst area in Dark souls contest

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>>162927183

How can DaS2 & 3 even compete?

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>>162955919
I was about to host actually.
Let's try this again.

Lothric Castle bonfire PC pass is dsg

I got the craving for some DS3 pvp so I installed & booted up dark souls 3 for the first time in like half a year.
My save is gone and I don't like the game enough to actually play it.
WHAT
DO

>>162956312
What is this?

>>162956356
Nice
I'll put my sign in about 20mn

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tfw

When you kill a gray spirit, do they lose anything?

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>>162956356
Aerthas is coming to the FC with his Fister Roboto character. He lowered the damage back to normal. If you still don't want to fight him at the FC just curl up in front of him.

>>162956356
>Lothric Castle bonfire PC pass is dsg
Where are the signs?

>>162956564
>censoring his fps
You embarassed my man?

>>162957045
At the bonfire

>>162957035
Summon me, I'll ban him

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>>162957149
sowwy ur baneded kiddo :^)

>>162957035
>If you still don't want to fight a known hacker that I'm still for some reason summoning at the FC just curl up in front of him.

Might as well say "if you still don't want to fight him just suck his cock real gentle-like"

Who the fuck goes to these things anymore? Holy shit you people are pathetic.

>>162957335
No one curls up because their not a pussy and actually fight

>>162956446
a gif.

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CAUGHT ME MIRIN' CHOSEN UNDEAD!

>>162953725
No. Mundane is not better than flynn's, mundane is barely better than Raw.

Mundane HALVES the damage from your weapon and then adds a base amount based on your minimum stat.

Min stat = 15: 140 (mundane better than raw if base AR < 215 - scaling difference)
Min stat = 20: 170 (mundane better than raw if base AR < 261 - scaling difference)
Min stat = 30: 200 (mundane better than raw if base AR < 307 - scaling difference

So the only situation where mundane is better than Flynn is if the AR < 257 and there is no scaling, or about a base AR of under 187. There are almost no weapons in the game like that (and the few there are, like the ladle or some knives) got nerfed in a patch so they don't get the full mundane bonus.

>>162957335
>known hacker

Yes and? He's not actually hacking anything besides visual which can be seen >>162957575 here

>>162957478
>actually fight
>the known cheater who literally brags about it here all the time

Yeah, nah.

>>162957636
>b-but he'll be good this time, i-i swear!

Yeah...

Nah.

>>162957684
>brags about cheating
yeah nah, I help people with my cheating or point out goofy stuff

>this time

You mean every time?

>>162957636
>known hacker
>Yes and?

jesus fucking christ this place has really hit a new low huh?

>>162957780
Good thing there are no pillars where you can abuse no fall damage here

>>162957856
>"He wasn't wearing the ring that does that!"

cool. arena is a pointless thing anyways.

>>162957605
alri thanks

>>162957636
>he's not actually hacking anything besides visual
hacking is hacking dude. fucking cheater apologists ITT but cry when someone uses a bug holy shit.

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This kind of shitposting is either falseflag or some redditor came here where he's not welcomed. It stinks of faggotry!

>>162958113
lmao I don't even post in thread anymore because of shit like this

t. the actual aerthas

Did they make sunlight spear cost even more to cast?

FC is slowing down to to internet issues. Please be patient.

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Welp
Connection error midfight

>>162956948
guuyyyyysysysysysys