/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

I've been using twin sellswords the entire game and I FUCKING hate them. They have no fucking reach at all, I have to literally be inside the asshole of my target in order to hit it.

I also have a rapier but it does no fucking damage compared to the amount of stamina it sucks out of me.

Are there any non-shit dex weapons that aren't 90% of the way through the game?

>>163304804
>I have to literally be inside the asshole of my target in order to hit it.

wtf?

>>163304804
Uchikatana / Crow quills/talons

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MOMMY ROSARIA
MOMMY ROSARIA
MOMMY ROSARIA
MOMMY ROSARIA

>>163304804
Chaos blade after 4 bosses
Crow quills after 3 bosses

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>Untended Profaned Doors

Does resetting the world flags for rebirths get you banned? Literally the only thing I want to do since going through another ng + 10 for rebirths is annoying

I'll prob just do it though and remember to back up my save this time since I've been clean thus far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grJ_6d-y9cU

Is this the best game trailer of all time?

>>163305206
Can't you just do it on a family share acc?

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WE ARE NUMBER ONE

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>>163305608
Are you REAL invaders?

>Well... uh, technically, ah... na.

Have you ever killed a good guy? Like a... like a real sunfag?

>Na.

Have you ever tried a false white ring?

>Na... na.

Alright! I can see that I will have to teach you how to be invaders!

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>>163305157
>High Things
>No-man's Abyss
>Fishing Firelink Doors
>Frozen Woods of Despair
>King's Clinic of the Giants
>Quelaag's World
>Farron Nightmare Tunnel
>Dream Dungeon
>Painted Abyss of Despair

>>163305716
We really need an anon to sing that

>>163305361
bitch please, it's one of the worst ds3 trailers

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>ducking under a scythe's slash with the flamberge's r2 weapon art

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>>163305847
>Farron Nightmare Tunnel
>It's an incredibly long boring stretch of shitty level design
>No branching paths
>No shortcuts
>Poison inducing, speed slowing mud the entire length
>Those high jumping face raping Ghrus all over the place
>NPCs equipped with Farron break dancing sword constantly tryign to stunlock you
>Giant swamp monsters spamming their homing skulls at you while your ability to roll is severely compromised
>Basilisks too for good measure

So at what point do you know it's time to stop trying to solo and time to summon help?

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>>163305716
Are you REAL darkwraiths?

>Well... uh, technically, ah... na.

Have you ever killed a good guy? Like a... like Artorias?

>Na.

Have you ever stole humanity of somene?

>Na... na.

Alright! I can see that I will have to teach you how to be darkwraiths!

So I finally finished Dark Souls 2. It has its flaws, but I liked it in the end. Should I play Bloodborne or DS3 next?

>>163306465
>It has its flaws, but I liked it in the end.

A woman after my own heart

>>163306465
DS3

Going from BB to DS3 will make you kill yourself

>>163306465
bloodborne probably, gotta see the progression of souls ganes in order

>>163305847
>Quelagg's World

Sounds like a shitty spinoff starring spider-tits lady that I'd play the fuck out of

>>163306375
Here's a little lesson in dickery!
This is going down in our city!
If you want to be a Darkwraith number one,
You have to chase a knightly furfag on the run!

>>163306589
>Going from BB to DS3 will make you kill yourself
Not really
BB lacks a shitton of quality of life improvements ds3 has and arguably has worse vanilla bosses and level design plus poorly thought out base mechanics like almost full absence of true combos.

>>163305361
True Colors was better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9NxxZDjNyU

How in the fuck am I supposed to get the "yeah this isn't Griffith's armor turned into a super ninja bird thing" sword from?

>>163306926
>bamco trailers
all shit

>>163306924
So what you're saying is, is that BB should be released on PC and given an overhaul in some ways in order to make it a great game?

>>163306951
Explore the Covian Settlement a bit. Make sure you've looked at all the back paths, ridges and jumps you can do.

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>tfw the host parry spams so much you decide to just pull out your caestus and spam over and over to mock him

>>163307070
Where does that post say anything about PC?
There's no reason to turn this shit into retarded platform arguments.

>>163307070
>>>/v/ is right there, fucktard

>>163307315
Well, they could certainly wait until the PSultraMKpro4.2 for such an overhaul.

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>>163307260
Laddy... https://youtu.be/n4geCMAO-7k
I fought him 4 times and this is all he has done

>>163307070
too bad the game is payed for with sonybux, the best we could hope for right now would be bloodborne on PSNow

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>>163307818

>SL289

>>163308056
I-i like to pvp with this so I can use everything
My other builds I kind of neglect to be honest

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>>163307260

>tfw you just shoot him with your crossbow point-blank

>>163302217
Being a faggot is my specialty
But yeah I guess if you think it's worth my time I might as well try and make a start. Even if I never post it it'll be fun

>>163302793
Well what I really wanted to make as a comic which I guess I might now writefag was a story about Irithyll during Sulyvahn's rise to power, after he's deposed Gwyndolin and asserted himself as Pontiff. So your pic is pretty appropriate because it'd probably touch on Sulyvahn's treatment of the Dancer and maybe her relationship with Vordt. Though, I wouldn't want to butcher From characters so they probably wouldn't be narrators or anything. Their relationship would be observed by someone on the outside.

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>>163307260
>>163307818

Don't get me started, this was a bit later in the fight.

This is probably the best I can do with summing up DaS3 PvP.

>>163308159

>level 289
>28 Vigor

Hahaahaha, ok that is actually legit funny. I'm screenshotting that.

How do you even find people in the arena at that level?

>>163308528
It takes 5-20secs in the arena
Ever since ds1 I thought of people who pumped vigor were giant vagina's so I stray from it and focus on other stats
I recently changed my mind though, after giving my dex build 40vig I had gone past 20vig with this build
You don't understand, I hate having high health it makes me feel like such a loser. I never disparage others for it though, especially not in BB

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I want to cosplay this on my next character, but I've never done much screwing around with outfits. I think the Lothric Knight Sword will be good enough for the sword, any other ideas?

>Like 10 more themed characters and builds I want to make
>Only 3 character slots left
Fuck
I think I'm going to have to delete my original playthrough character and quite possibly the character I made for the cosplay event we had months ago

Might even have to start making save back ups with different characters and switching them in and out every now and then

>>163308408
If you write it, post a link here in the general

>>163308765

Well, more power to you.

I'm just surprised you're not constantly getting shat on in the arena by fast-rolling Havel's with DMB Washing Poles with 1500+ HP.

>>163308501
jesus christ how horrifying :^)

>>163304982
Wait, is she just a big girl then? I thought she had slug stuff growing out of her

>>163310340
She's just a big girl. In game all that fleshy shit is a grub man lying around her with its head in her lap.

>>163308839
Fire witch chest and gloves. Black leather, Alva, or abyss watcher legs for the red accent. Lothrics hood has black and gold color scheme at least.

Herald breastplate hits the white and gray tones. It's hard to get the whole color scheme in.

>>163310340
Of course she's a big girl, she's Gwynevere.

>>163308408
I've always felt like this particular part of the Dark Souls III story would write itself, not to mention that it would be pretty interesting.
Thinking about the Silver Knights fighting a Deep Accursed or the Giant Sentinels trying to hold back a tide of Boreal Knights, it would just be really cool to see it play out. Not to mention the confrontation between Sully and Gwyndolin.
Also, I really like the idea behind Vordt and the Dancer. A little cliche, but the thought of two people growing so close in the face of all the horrors and torture they went through is touching to me.
I'd read it if you make it.

>>163310460
Such a lucky man grub

Is it true that Alonne drops pieces from his set if you defeat him as a phantom?

Dark Arrows should have D/D scaling with Intelligence and Faith.
Moonlight Arrows should have A scaling in Intelligence.
Lightning Bolts should have C scaling wtih Faith.
Lightning Greatarrows should have B scaling with Faith.
Splintering Bolts should gain a minor to moderate boost in bleed buildup with Luck.
Poison Arrows should gain a moderate boost in poison buldup with Luck.

>>163310568
Yes, to allow people who didn't buy the dlc access to his set

>>163310490
Forgot about the Herald's, that'll be better than what I was thinking. Thanks mate.

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This thing can get pretty ridiculous, I see.

>>163311020
I think you expect too much of Fromsoft. Logic isn't really they're strong suit

>>163310513
I always interpreted Sulyvahn's take over as a series of tricky political manoeuvres and religious falsehoods, rather than a violent clash. The story would be less 'the exciting last stand of Gwyndolin' and more about how life in Irithyll changes as Sulyvahn claims the title of Pontiff and takes more and more power: the discontent of some of Irithyll's inhabitants as Sulyvahn phases out the Darkmoon Knights and a great deal of the Silver Knights and establishes the Pontiff Knights and Fire Witches in their place.
I think it'd have two narrators:
>The anti-Sulyvahn voice, a Darkmoon or Silver Knight, probably not anyone close to Gwyndolin but a loyal subject and worshipper nevertheless.
>The pro-Sulyvahn voice, a recently appointed Pontiff Knight or Fire Witch, someone who idolises his strength and resolve.

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>>163311468

>Ruins ruins

Ruins ruins

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>>163307260

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Remember to come, /dsg/

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>The Archdragon Profaned Shrine
>The Undead World
>The Road
>Undead Capital
>No-Man's Town
>The Doors

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>>163311674
YOU'RE MAKING ME HYPED ANON
FOR SOMETHING WHICH MAY OR MAY NEVER EXIST

>>163312235
Heysel has a nice stomach

>>163311674
Now that I think about it, it does make more sense for the takeover to have been nonviolent, considering that there really aren't any signs of struggle evident around the buildings or any other structures. I'll admit that I have a massive hardon for imagining various creatures and characters throughout the series in combat, though.
That does leave the question of what exactly happened to the silver knights/giants (and the blacksmith) if they weren't killed in battle. Maybe they ended up being forced into the ranks of the outrider knights or something Smough = Vordt confirmed, or just got kicked out of the city.
I like the idea of two narrators, especially since we never really get to see a sane voice in favor of Sulyvahn in the game. Surely he had people that respected his strength, at the very least.

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>>163312674
I'm guessing Gotthards?

>>163308159
It's a shame that they don't let you have multiple characters on the same save file. Also a shame that you can't save or copy save files.

>OH WAIT

>kill dancer after many attempts, really cool and tough boss
>place bowl
>cool cutscene
>holy shit what is going to happen now, looks like a staircase will open into some huge dungeon
>*a fucking ladder descends two meters*

fucking seriously

>>163313061
AWAY AWAY~

Is there a CE table for DaS2 with a 100% drop rate script?

>>163313061
Schierke

Fuck the corvian scythe

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anyone want to bully deacons?

pass: dsg
system: PC

>>163313640
be there in 1 min

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Dragons get the fuck out

>>163313640
>>163313749
Fuck the deacons

Do people still do PvP at the chapel threshold bonfire in DS2? Or is it all iron keep now?

>>163313640
>>163313749
>>163313956

Thanks, Devil's Luck!

>>163312579
I'm surprised you guys are encouraging me so much
For all you know I'm a fucking awful writer

>>163312728
In my opinion the Silver Knights ranks have been depleted over who knows how many thousands of years:
The best of the best are severely depleted by the wars against the demons and then going to the Kiln with Gwyn.
More might have left Anor Londo after Gwyn linked the Flame as guards of the rest of the Gods, though a good deal stayed behind to guard Gwynevere's illusion and help Gwyndolin's plot. Several of those then gave their lives for the plan, making sure that the Chosen Undead was strong and worthy enough to take the Lordvessel.
Then things probably get a little better for them between Dark Souls 1 and 3, as Anor Londo/Irithyll is reinhabited. Their ranks *might* be replenished with the returning population of divinity (or divine descendents), but its clear by the time of Dark Souls 3 they're in their death throes. Silver Knights are loyal as fuck to the old royla family, so it's quite possible Sulyvahn excommunicated several of them as Outrider Knights. Those remaining might have been turned into 'harrowed spirits' like the rest of Irithyll's inhabitants, killed by Sulyvahn if they found out he was holding Gwyndolin hostage, and eaten by Aldrich when he arrived.

>>163313012
I don't think you understand
That's okay

First time Scholar of the First Sin right now.

Good builds to just cruise through the game quick? I'm wanting to do DEX, but I'm not committed to it.

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>>163314530
This, no contest.

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>>163314045
>For all you know I'm a fucking awful writer
I'm a drawfag, tried to draw some Souls futa porn and though it was awfully drawn. I still posted it on the /aco/ thread and got some feedback, some anons said the drawing wasn't awful. I still think it is
If you feel like writing it, just write it ! You'll have feedback from several anons. I believe in you !

>>163314775
>25 endurance

Why are you in here, you BB-obsessed slut? You NEED at LEAST 40 Endurance in all souls games if you're going to:

Use shields, or use Ultras

>>163314936
I saw it, it is awful. The proportions are terrible, the picture she's jacking off onto looks terrible and like no one at all. It's like modern cubism.

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>>163314990
Git Gud.

>>163314530
Dex scaling is 60% of strength scaling. But you get poison and bleed.

So at 40/40:
S strength = +140 damage
S Dex = +85 damage

So if you go pure dex, do it to meet dex requirements for some really good weapons (Katanas, Spears, Scythes, Bows, Rapiers) or for poison infusion later on in the game.

Powerstanced Rapiers is generally considered the best early dex combo, it can take you throughout the whole game, but try more things.

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>>163314841

isn't battery basically tied with fume ss and og long ss in sotfs?

why would i wear anything but the xanthous set in ds1

>>163315278
SOTFS straight sword ranking:

1. Fume Sword / Long Sword
2. Heide Knight Sword
3. Ashen Warrior Sword / Sun Sword
4. All other swords

Long sword is overrated, Ashen Warrior is underrated.

>>163315710
does the Fume UGS still have the shielding counter attacks in DS3 that it had in DS2?

I need to know if this game is trash or not

>>163315667
Why is battery only 3rd? It's almost 10% more AR than any other SS at a fraction of the length

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>>163314045
>Pontiff and Aldrich rising in ranks of Darkmoon knights/Way of White, eventually granted a high rank and the Greatsword of Judgement as proof
>Pontiff slowly convincing Irithyll that his Profaned Flame and Age of Deep is better than Gwyndolin's false Age of Fire, behind his back and slowly corrupting them
>at his suggestion, Way of White clerics under his command may enter Anor Londo and slowly gain more presence in Gwyndolin's city
>Age of Dark is nearing again
>Gwyndolin in a moment of weakness grows weary and lonely of his duty
>adopts Yorshka because they are both outcast abominations and he desired family
>Pontiff convinces all of Gwyndolin's followers including the Darkmoon and Silver Knights that Gwyndolin is a fraud for having a crossbreed dragon as kin
>Pontiff poisons Gwyndolin without anyone's interference and imprisons the crossbreed
>sends the Darkmoon knights and all opposers as Outriders to rid of them
>Gwyndolin and the last remaining knight Smough is sacrificed to Aldrich

>>163315667
I never really saw a need to use anything other than the craftsman hammer (trivializes PvE) and the Estoc (trivializes PvP with the RobFlynn + E. Gauntlets).

>>163315981

Everyone already know you're a fucking faggot, no need to state the obvious

>>163315061
I know it is awful, but do better then

>>163316092
The salt is real.

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>>163316131
>if it's so bad do better yourself then!

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>>163316292
Well can you ?

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>>163316392
>invalid arguments

>>163316392
Yes, but that is beside the point and is not a valid defense. Only children (mental or physical) try to use it as one.

>>163316470
>greentext

>>163315887
Range, and scaling requirements. Sun Sword is only better if you're pure quality, long sword will always out-damage it (and out range) when buffed+infused, at lower stat investment.

This makes sun sword only better if the enemy has decent elemental defense, since it's better at pure physical but worse at elemental.

>>163316674
>

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>>163316674
Invalid argument

>>163316928
>>163315887
Basically:


10/10/40 Long Sword >>>> 15/15/40 Sun Sword > 40/40 Sun Sword > 40/40 Long Sword

What level should i be for Micolash?

Im at level 50 and this dude oneshots me with his opening attack

>>163317181
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>>163317056
So your argument is saying that my argument is invalid ? Wow you sure showed me

>>163317181
There's literally no reason to ever even get hit by Micolash. I'm not even trying to be an ass but he really is that easy. He'll just spam the auger of ebrietas in his first phase which is absurdly easy to dodge. The only trick is in his 2nd phase where he spams call beyond but you can make sure he never uses that if you just always stay close to him.

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>>163317181
Your level is irrelevant, just don't get hit by the augur

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How the fuck do I git gud at this?

I've lost so many matches.

>>163317693
Use your R2s idiot

>>163317782
Wait, there's more to this game than R1?

>>163317693
>two-handed
doing it wrong
>hollow
doing it very wrong, i bet you have 27 STR

>>163317423
>this is the game people praise for its boss design

>>163317423
WHY IS BB SO MUCH BETTER THAN DS3 WHY WE DIDN'T GOT BB FOR PC INSTEAD OF DS3 REEE

>>163317974
>WHY IS BB SO MUCH BETTER THAN DS3
studio japan
>WHY WE DIDN'T GOT BB FOR PC
studio japan

Fuck studio japan

>>163317896
>spam at the boss
>he rekts your ass by spamming back at you
>taunts you by continuing to spam over your body

How is this not amazing?

>>163317896
I've never seen someone praise Micolash for being a well-designed boss.
Bizarrely memorable, sure, but not well-designed.

>>163317896
BB's boss design is shit though. The DLC has some godtier bosses but the base game outside of maybe 2 bosses is largely shit and forgettable.

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Dark souls noob here, Ive been playing DS2 made a sorc, im in bastille ive killed the boss with the long sword before you find the primal bonfire, ive been playing a sort of battle mage with staff/shield in one hand and an axe/crossbow in other with what im guessing is the medium armor type and im lvl 75, stats are -

9 vigor
20 end
18 atn
6 vit
18 str
13 dex
8 adap
22 int
12 faith

Doing it right or doin it wrong?

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>>163317868
How the fuck am I supposed to use it then?

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>>163318249
yeah you really don't know what you're doing

if you've found a soul vessel you should re-spec at the firekeeper's hut, your stats are all over the place
you don't have equal INT/FAI for dark magic, you have no ADP and no VIG

ADP is hugely important for i-frames, i imagine you get caught during your rolls a lot

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>tfw no sallet in DS3

>9 vigor
>not a lot of agility
Are you dying a lot?

>>163318364
Subtle bait, I like it

>>163318142
I don't know, I thought the only truly shitty bosses in BB are the Hemwick Witches and The One Reborn. The rest were at least alright.
Then again, this is really just going to end up being opinion vs opinion.

>>163318249
I forgot the link
>>163318594

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>>163318364
You need more clutch rings obviously

>>163318543
>you don't have equal INT/FAI for dark magic
He said he's playing a Sorc, not a Hexer.

>>163318543
>>163318594
Learn me some gameplay tips and i wouldnt say im dieing alot, if anything with what ive heard i feel like i should be dieing more.

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So a while ago there was a bit of talk in these threads about invading in the Catacombs, which is great fun, as well as a few fun, half assed ideas thrown out for a Carthus player covenant. I remembered those rules as best I could and put them together into something a little neater.

This thing is pretty fucking wall of texty and needs reformatting/prettying up, but I thought I'd drop what I have so far here. if there's any fucking awful spelling mistakes or weird phrasing it's because it's 4 in the morning here

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>>163318706
>>163318664
Okay now seriously, I don't really know the best way to use it.

Also, I have honestly no idea what ring to put there

>kill dancer early
>upgrade any weapon to +9 right away

this is pretty nice

>>163318671
>Hemwick Witches
The are a joke as a boss, but they are the most annoying an deadliest enemies when you meant them in the chalice dungeons. They get their revenge in spades.

>>163318787
Just play str and grab a blunt weapon. It will make life much easier, and you can just respec later.

>>163318842
>Kukri
>middle-eastern themed build
>using a weapon from India

>>163318904
b...but... muh'spells

>>163318671
I mean, they were okay. There were some interesting bosses like Logarius or Amelia but I felt like most of the base game bosses were just lackluster. There wasn't even that one boss we usually get in a Souls game that's fairly difficult and gives you a sense of satisfaction after beating it. The DLC definitely made up for it with Ludwig and Orphan but I really wasn't impressed with the boss lineup in BB.

The game has other things going for it but bosses weren't a strong point imo

>>163319039
Pointless. The early spells don't do shit, and you don't have the stats to support them yet anyway. Plus, you can just respec back into a spell build later.

>>163319116
HMPH is probably the toughest boss in the any of the Vanilla games in the Soulsborne franchise.

>>163319116
Orphan sucks in terms of visual design though
>naked Dark Souls Hollow wielding a Dragon Tooth got lost in Bloodborne

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>>163318787
ADP is the most important stat
you should level it immediately until you have 99 / 100 AGL immediately
enough ADP for 105 AGL is ideal, however ATT also slightly raises AGL so if you plan on getting a sizable amount of ATT you won't need so much ADP

VIG and END both have the best gains up to 20, getting those is better than getting more str / dex for a caster

dark magic scales based off equal INT and FAI, so if you plan on going with that, aim for 30/30 int / fai

the magic weapon buffs last the longest

STR / DEX scaling is generally low unless you go all out

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>>163318035
? How did studio japan play an important part of BB's development?

>>163319246
so what do i want to do stats wise then? every single point in str?

>>163319246
>HMPH is probably the toughest boss in the any of the Vanilla games in the Soulsborne franchise.
>just use a kneeling gesture in his face and he can't hit you with over half of his attacks, much like Pontiff

>Telling a new player in a Souls game to go for a cheese build on their first playthrough
/dsg/ sure has become a sad place. Back in the day we used to tell newbies to fuck off out of the thread and have fun.

>>163319304
BB keeps Memeyizaki in check so he doesn't pull dumb shit

>>163319274
>i finished sotfs my 1st time without putting a single level in ADP

heh

>>163318249
>Adaptability increases your invincibility frames while rolling
>the LOWER of the Int/Fth stat determines your dark scaling. No reason to do both stats unless you want to go dark.
>70% equip load is ideal. 50% below that, there's no real reason to go below 50%.
>You won't do heavy damage with melee until you get infusions, since that scales off your Int/Fth instead of str/dex.

Basically, if you're going mage, you need to get to mid-game as fast as possible so that you can get all the powerful buffs later on. If you're doing both Int and Faith, you need to keep them equal so you have good dark damage for the powerful hexes you will get soon.

>>163318787
>>163319039
>>163319317
Ignore the local tripfag. He is jaded on das2 and will encourage only cold, heartless efficiency.

Spells are the most fun I have had in two, especially sorcery. For the early game though, at least 20 vig and 20 end, then focus on spells and such, then try to get a combination of ATT and ADP that gives you 96-100 agility. Longsword is a solid weapon for most of the game, but if you want to have fun with spells look for the blue flame, which is a straight sword that can cast spells.

From here, dump into INT until 40-50 and ATT until at least 30.

>>163319246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncW3EHe7fUs

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>>163319502
That's a irrelevant answer. Try again.

>>163319252
He's not as good as Ludwig at visual design but he makes up for it with some of the most aggressive movesets in any Souls game. Beating his 2nd phase felt like an accomplishment.

>>163319116
I thought Father Gascoigne, Ebrietas, Gherman, and the Blood-Starved Beast were all pretty good along with the two you mentioned.
There's also some bosses exclusive to the dungeons that I thought were pretty cool, like the Bloodletting Beast and the Elder.
On the other hand, some bosses like Moon Presence and Wet Nurse weren't truly awful, but were still seriously disappointing.
>There wasn't even that one boss we usually get in a Souls game that's fairly difficult and gives you a sense of satisfaction after beating it
The Abhorrent Beast as a boss is very challenging and actually did fit that category for me.
>>163319348
I've seen that, but I don't know how it helps with the boss since you still need to leave the gesture to deal damage.

>play des
>soul dupe
>use bbs
>use light weapon
>shit on game


>play das1
>soul dupe
>use moveset swap estoc + BKGS
>shit on game

>play das2
>get to fotfg
>quit das2

>play das 3
>get anri go 40 luck
>shit on game

>play bb
>walk around table
>shit on game with 40/40 LHB

>replay BB
>shit on TOH with 40/40 LHB

Daily reminder not to fall for the "souls game are challenging/hard" meme.

These games are no different than AAA games

>>163319580
>70% equip load is ideal
Not in Dark Souls 2 it isn't. Huge stamina regen penalties and tiny rolls.
>there's no real reason to go below 50%.
Roll distance.

>>163319889
>>quit das2
Very true, most important step

>>163319274
Adaptability isn't the most important stat, but agility is the most important thing to level up first.

Once you hit ~92 agility there isn't a whole lot of benefit. And he's got some attunement, which helps.

A pure mage with 40 attunement can get away with 8 ADP competitively, especially if you're playing ranged and not constantly rolling all the time.

>>163319889
>Souls games are easy if you cheat :^)

Who knew?


>play das2
>get to fotfg
>quit das2
Alright, I kek'd.

>>163319782
I forgot about Gasciogne. He was a good boss. Probably one of the best early game bosses in any Souls game. Gherman might've been more fun but after fighting like 10 different NPC hunters in the game, he just felt trivial at end-game.

My opinion on chalice dungeons isn't all that great so I'm a bit jaded on the dungeon bosses. Going through those dungeons were just a slog and incredibly boring with the same copy-pasted bullshit. There were a couple I enjoyed fighting like the headless bloodletting beast or abhorrent beast but a lot of them felt like pure bullshit (like defiled Amygdala or hotdog) than actually fun.

>>163319889
>says the games are not hard because he can soul dupe

disgusting

>>163319317
See:

>>163314775
Personally, I would say get the base stats for the fire longsword then use that until you get the craftsmans hammer. The drop points into VGR, END and ADP (around 20 each) before focusing on Str.

>>163319594
>cold, heartless efficiency.
I don't deny this. I just don't see "efficiency" as a dirty word like you do.

>>163319348
Too bad you can't do shit from that gesture either.

>>163319643
And you are fucked if he puts his back up against a wall with those back dashes. Not to mention most people aren't running multiple claw runes.

>>163319012
They're from Carthus in game.

>>163320069
Makes me laugh when people think they don't need 105 AGL. Very satisfying to have someone completely incapable of dodging iron king hammer r2s or bandit axe.

>>163319946
You are correct for PvP. But not for PvE. The extra ~15% roll distance you gain from that huge investment in weight cap (8-12 otherwise wasted points) would be literally better spent on any other stat, until you hit ~SL150 or so and you start seeing diminishing returns on other stats and you're not able to increase your damage/defense more.

>>163319889
Only Bamco and YT memers pushed this whole SOULS IS LE HARDCORE bullshit. There's nothing inherently hard about Souls games. It's just unlike almost every other AAA game, Souls games punish mistakes harder and force you to be patient. Unfortunately most people these days who plays games seem incapable of doing that which is why all they do is meme about how hard every Souls game is.

>>163319946
>Roll distance.
I always find longer roll distance to be a detriment instead of a benefit.

>>163320301
He's playing PvE, not PvP. Nothing in PvE is so hard to dodge you need the extra 3 frames of 105 agility. Especially not at a ~20 stat point cost.

>>163320367
it made me think of this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6c4ZuMg79g

>>163320367
Souls is just Legend of Zelda except they don't tell you what any of the controls do, or how to use any of the weapons.

And the whole "lots of stats you need to figure out on your own, no tutorials" thing was just borrowed from Armored Core anyway.

>>163316158
great fun but not particularly useful after that phase
also he curbstomps you into the sidewalk on ng+7 if you use a UGS, no fun allowed

>>163320367
>Dark/Demons games require a modicum of thought and punish mistakes
>Unwashed masses thinks this makes Dark Souls the hardest game ever because they can't just fuckwit their way through it
>Team who work on Dark Souls 2 think this is meant to be the design philosophy and fill the game with tedious challenges and dumb bullshit to make it "hard"
>Team who work on Dark Souls 3 make it easy as fuck so the retarded masses can beat it and boast about being hardcore gamers
just shoob my woob dudes

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>rat king has given me the best and most satisfying PVP in soulsborne
>nobody comes to the arenas post-200

No justice I tell you

>>163320821
>keep your distance
>bait his leaping lunge attack
>hit once or twice
>rinse and repeat

You can literally fight NK on any NG and beat him with that strat without ever taking any damage.

Souls games are good at one thing

Making me rage with the force of a thousand suns

>>163320968
>tfw 5k hour souls vet and still ragescream during obviously bullshit bullshit that's almost always my fault anyway

spider chime ladies
capra demon
that rare instance where you get ganged up on by 1000 fuckshit enemies
when you fucking panic roll out of pure muscle memory in a situation that kills you for it and you know not to panic roll but do it anyway

>>163320156
Defiled dungeons in general can get fucked, there's nothing fair or engaging about getting one-shot by every enemy in an area.
Dungeons as a whole probably could have been a lot more tolerable if there were far fewer that were actually "required" for you to go through.
As it stands, you end up going through a dozen of the things before getting anything interesting to happen.
If the game itself had been longer, dungeons would've felt less like padding, too.
Which is a shame, since I did think there were actually a few good bosses in them, they're just stuck behind hours of grinding through the same levels over and over again.
And this is coming from someone who genuinely likes the idea of purely optional, procedurally generated levels as long as they're a fair challenge and have enough enemy/location variety.

>>163321225
you can pretty much skip all dungeons by going straight to NG+1 can't you?

>>163321283
go away

>>163320965
are you saying i should go SLOW?

@163321283

No (You) for your dumbass

If I forgot to pick up the Exile Greatsword and Giant Club, would I be able to find them somewhere? Or do they spawn in the NPCs' locations?

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>Quelaag's Chasm

>>163321326
The only thing going to NG+ allows you to do is buy materials for dungeons instead of farming them.
You still need to find every chalice type to progress, and that requires you to make something like 8 or 9 dungeons sequentially before you actually reach depth 5.
Even if you have the glyph for a high-level dungeon, the game won't let you use it unless you've personally made a dungeon at that level and type.
Progress in dungeons also doesn't carry over between characters, so you need to repeat this process if you want to visit high-level dungeons on a different character.
It could've been a cool idea, but holy fuck is it a pain to slog through the same FIXED dungeons over and over again for every new character.

>>163320865
From Software was better off with Agetec publishing whatever they wanted to make, no matter how hard or complicated.

>>163321559
Answer: Yes, they spawn in the NPCs' locations.

So is the Kumo good or am I just against shitters?

>>163323053
Exile gs is superior. It's only good if you want a curved gs infused with magic

>>163323251
Even with regards to reach?

>summoned as Darkmoon Blade
>host black crystals me out

Fucking nigger

Wait, when did Scythes suddenly become not shit?

>>163321772
can't you just kill ebritas, get her chalice and use souls + insight to get the materials for RCF

What's the recommended endurance for a 120 quality build?

Also what makes more sense if I plan on occasionally using weapon arts, simple caestus or blessed?

>>163324906
>What's the recommended endurance for a 120 quality build?

Which game?

>>163324906
depends on whether or not you use shields or ultra weapons

does anyone have a guide to a pyromancy build?

>>163325069
>>163325351

Curved and regular greatswords are probably the heaviest I intend to use and I don't intend to use any shields.

DaS 3

>>163325434
20 to 25 should be plenty.

>>163325417
40INT40FTHONYXBLADEPARTINGFLAMEBLACKFLAMEFIRESURGEVESTIGESPYROBOOSTRINGS

>>163325587
25 for the love of god

20 is not enough

>>163325605
>40INT40FTHONYXBLADEPARTINGFLAMEBLACKFLAMEFIRESURGEVESTIGESPYROBOOSTRINGS
sasuga

>>163325635
I would probably lean towards 25 with greatswords too, but I can do fine with 20 if I needed the stats elsewhere.

>>163325587
>>163325635

I'll still have a quite a lot of stats left over. 40/40 is standard, right? I could pump Vitality but it sort of feels like a waste since most of my preferred armors are light. Should I just get like DMB or some other buff then?

I made my previous character into a whip-wielding pyromancer so I don't really want to use very many pyro spells.

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Is it just me or is the dlc kind of lame? I came back to Souls just to play it, but it's not holding my interest. To be fair, I'm not very far through. The only thing I've liked so far are the weapons and armors, but there's so few of them.

Do you guys think any of those weapons are worth it, though? I got the crow quill on a dex character, and I think its p cool.

>>163326092
>that pic
Autism

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So I'm trying to download the Random Weapon every 7 seconds mod for DS1 and the link for it is dead.

Anyone have a backup?

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>>163326309
>not having autism

You don't know what you're missing.

>>163325973
Standard is:

50VIG
40STR
40DEX

Then it comes down to how much ATT and VIT you want in addition to END. 44 VIG is a better stopping point though, so you can pick up a few spare points there too.

>>163326686
>50VIG
Why the fuck. 40 is as much as anyone will ever fucking need.

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>Can only respec 5 times a run
Why the limit?

>>163327380
Because use CE

>>163327380
To make your choices matter. You can get more by going to the next NG.

>>163327519
>No fucking around allowed

>>163306227
If you actually had trouble with any part of 3 then you must have severe brain damage

>>163327548
You can fuck around 4 times per playthrough and still fix it. If you want to duck around again then you have to leave with the consequences of that choice.

>>163327702
>Having fun is bad

>>163327756
You're an idiot.

>SL83
>Pontiff Bonfire
>Porch has zero (0) Red Soap signs

When the fuck did this happen? Where do people duel now?

>>163328076
Your internet is a big shit

>>163327756
>>163327935
You're both idiots. I'm going to give you all some free advice here. Get cheat engine and then you can respec without going into an NG. There's problem solved. No need to pay me.

>>163328076
>play DLC
>kill optional boss at the bottom of the map
>burn his bones
>enjoy 5sec wait for Arena HONORABLE DUELS

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...has anyone else already discovered this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tud-Kmubpfo

>>163328221
>tfw no DLC

>>163328107
No man, it's just empty. I invaded someone first try, but no one's dueling.

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>>163328291
>>tfw no DLC

>>163328117
This is why I never buy Souls games on PC, cheating-scum.

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>>163328275

>>163317321
Not that anon, but me not being able to cook doesn't disqualify me from judging food. There is one case "do better then" applies, when we're pushing the limits of perfection. If then the other dude insists there could be better, you can suggest him to prove it. In which case simply presenting someone else's even better creation is absolutely valid too.
Do you think you're close to making futas as perfect as possible?

>>163328354
>tripfagging for 4+ years now
why anon
nobody cares who you are

>>163328354
>I never buy Souls games on PC
That's a good thing. We don't want your tripfaggin kind around here.

>>163319304
Studio Japan was the development team that created both Demon's Souls and then later them and DaS1 people created BB while C-team was working on dasdreck.

>>163317974
Bigger budget and developmemt time. Most of the Souls games have been developed with a very small budget compared to other AAA series and Sony pumped a lot of money into BB. Also development time, BB was in production pretty much right after DS1 DLC was done so like 3 years instead of the usual 2. That's why it got such God-tier soundtrack and everything in it was tip top quality. It was still a short as fuck game before the Old Hunters expansion which was one of the legit criticisms about the game. If they had aimed at having the scope of DaS1, I think it would've ended incomplete still.

>>163328589
>get Dark Souls on PC
>have to deal with hackers
>get Dark Souls on console
>have to deal with Lucifer

you just can't win

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dark souls is making me feel alot better about dying soon. night lads

>>163328889
>>163317974

Not just more time and budget, but far better publisher demands. Sony cared more about 10/10 scores than facebook likes, because they wanted a launch platform. Bandai's idea of marketing was social media memes. Sony needed BB to sell PS4s.

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>>163329057
You're dying?

>>163329232
i am very sick

>>163329171
>still lost GOTY to Titcher 3

>>163327380
I have never ever respecced in a souls game. I'm glad the feature is there for people who want to try out different builds but I've never found use for it since I don't minmax.

>>163330152
I have used it a few times to swap builds around after big changes to the game. Mostly though, I min-max and plan ahead so I don't need it.

>>163328589
>nobody cares who you are
>while giving him replies
Bring more (You)s, Slayer of Demons!

>>163329257
make sure to get a darksign tattoo over your heart. claim to respawn with the final words for extra effect

>>163330470're waifu a shit

>>163328901
>not having CE for hack protection
>not anonymizing everyone

you CAN win, if you cheat hard enough

>>163330554
If videogame tattoos weren't so lame, I'd get the hunter's mark or a darksign pretty much immediately

>>163320968
Soulsborne games don't really make me upset. The Souls games have a lot of control fidelity, as in, the games don't do shit like auto-face you towards an opponent unless you use a lock-on or swirch up the controls for no reason. You're always able to plan ahead, prepare for encounters and the game rarely forces artificial restrictions on you within the context of the game.

Is there a open-face helm in this game that shows your hair?

>>163331975
>this game

>>163331975
pretty sure all helms hide hair

DS2: Sorceries or hexes for a fresh character? I've never done either. I figured hexes are more WTF pwn but they require investment in faith too

>>163332572
Sorc. Hexes got nerfed a very long time ago.

>>163331975
Aurous helm in ds2 is the only helmet that shows your hair.

>>163332572
>they require investment in faith
it's fucking nothing, dark orb rapes the entire game. seriously, it's not even fun.

>>163331975
>DeS
Brushwood Helm
Plate Helm

>DS1
Chain Helm
Hollow Warrior Helm

>DS2
Benhart's Helm
Falconer Helm
Hard Leather Helm
Hollow / Infantry Helm
Pate's Helm
Varangian Helm

>DS3
None; shit fashion

>>163332572

Both have pros and cons, Sorcery has some very strong stuff but it's later in the game whereas hexes can get a lot of their strongest stuff early on from Felkin at the start of Huntsman's Copse. If you don't want to inflate your SM I recommend getting the Sunset Staff by reaching certain INT/FAI values from Felkin, infusing it with Dark and using Dark Orb so you don't spend souls for Great Resonant Soul, Dark Orb on a Dark Sunset Staff does comparable damage without that cost.

>>163332658
Just dark orb? Is there a reasn to above minimum requirements for it then?

>>163332761
I'm doing PVE. I'm just curious in terms of magic since the most I've used was magic in DS1. I've done it with melee. But want a magic run.

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>>163332684
>>163331975

Steel soldier helm I think

is faraam helm the only helm with a roman feather thing on the back of the head?

>>163332967

Be forewarned that the DLC content has enemies and bosses with very inflated elemental resistances making casting of all types a chore to get through with them especially with the nerfs of the major spell nukes a very long time ago. I recommend getting a raw offhand of a weapon of your choice as a backup.

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What kind of build would suit this fashion in Demon's Souls?

>>163333085
I'll most likely respec then for mostly melee. I usually just used a shortsword in DS1.

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>>163333049
Giant Helm in DS1 has that, if this is what you're talking about at least

>>163328275
https://youtu.be/bxdyNaN8c-Q?t=8m1s

>>163333101
Anyone? I'm thinking buffed Very Large Sword

>>163333202
thats what I meant, damnit I want one in DS3

>>163332772
It depends on your equipment. But the main reason is the amount of casts while having good damage

>>163332986
What a guy

>invade as watch dog
>host is clearly a nooblet
>end up guiding him through the swamp to put out the 3 beacon flames, killing red invaders for him

what has become of my life

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>>163333085
>RAW offhand
>not going Enchanted so you can do phys damage with INT scaling
U wot p8?

>>163333085
You can get through the DLCs just fine with a decently strong elemental weapon. I facerolled them with a magic zwei.

Does anyone here think DS PvP is greatly overrated? It's boring to watch, and it's boring to do. It's much more fun just playing PvE.

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Rate?

>>163334857
forgot to go 18 mag/fth

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SCARED

how long until it stops breathing fire
its been like 5 mins

>>163335085
Run to the sunlight altar to your left. It'll fly away.

>>163334652
Yes, it's a complete sideshow without much depth or lasting appeal and it's a shame that the covenant system is almost entirely focused on it instead of offering some extra options/content in PvE stuff.

>>163326415
I do believe the cheat engine data for DS1 has that built in. So try getting that and using it this way.

You can even manipulated how many weapons per second and if it's both hands if I recall correctly. If all else fails try looking for the stuff Lobos Jr, uses.

>>163335141
Neat. Will it come back so I can kill it at a later time?

>>163336113
yes

I finally cracked. The amount of passive running away buffed greatshields soul mass spamming healers made me have to use the washing pole. If you fight me understand its because of them im doing this. I tried using fun normal stuff but I'm tired of people running away the whole fight.

>>163327380
Probably because they're faggots who want you to inflate game time by forcing you to create new characters rather than change existing ones.

This is why altering appearance consumes respecs, despite the two having fuck all to do with each other. Or why returning Rosaria's soul to her does absolutely fucking nothing when logically any game designer not trying to fuck his players in the ass would give you another 5 or even infinite respecs.

Is it weird that seeing the Plank Shield makes my dick hard?

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>>163337927
Seek help or a carpenter.

>>163337927
No. It's aesthetically pleasing, but because of its shit stats, its only use is to add flare to your twink

>>163333085
>very inflated elemental resistances
if i recall correctly, it's spell specific. elemental weapons are resisted normally. basically a shitty way to mend a broken magic system

Is it best to do the DaS2 DLC in the order of Sunken>Iron>Ivory? Seems like the order most pushed by the key placement in Sotfs at least

>>163338697
that's the release order, so seems reasonable

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I just decided to replay Dark Souls 1 tonight and Dark Souls 3 really REALLY SPOILED ME.

>>163338697
it's accessibility order, release order and difficulty order. it's even the order aldia talks about them. i guess the game is trying to tell you something

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>>163318842
Oh hey, I already have a character that does this.

Only other thing I'd suggest is invading as a Mad Phantom (for shackles) and using an Untrue Dark Ring to better fit into the theme of the level.

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>>163337927
Is it wrong that hearing Shalquoir's voice makes my dick hard?
>first time playing DaS2
>collactan the shiny next to Shaq's shop
>prompt her talking to me through the wall
>get aroused immediately
>rush into the shoppe
>wtf where da waifus at?
>think game must have glitched
>quit and reload
>only the cat is there
>not even a sexy kind of cat
>put down the controller and go on e621

Anyone on PS4 willing to drop an unupgraded Friede's scythe for me?

Do DS2 Vanilla mules not exist anymore? I remember using one a while back but i cant find any non-dubious shit anymore

>>163339341
Once I finish NG+ Undead Settlement, sure. I'm taking my sweet ass time though.

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>>163339289
Is there r34 of Shalquoir?

>>163339729
:-(

>>163339914
It'll be probably a half hour or so. I like to go slow, steady, and gentle, like making sweet sweet love to these hollows.

>>163339963
kk. I'll probably still be lurking. Flisk me a message on psn Rustin-

>>163340052
With the -?

>>163339341
save yourself the pain and don't get it

it's aweful.

>>163340137
Yup.
>>163340213
I planned a build around it :-/ just need the weapon now. I'll give it a go and if I don't like it respec

>>163340287
I'll give you a ring soon, then. This is going well, other than me being dumb enough to fucking walk off death drops in a hurry.

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r8

>>163339389
.

>>163339832

More than of most characters.

>>163340287
I can't seem to send you a message on PSN, probably your privacy settings. I'm ready though.

>>163341060
kk whats your psn i'll try you

Holy shit, I hate Smouldering Lake. It's literally the worst area.

>>163339832
Not that much and what there is isn't very good.

>>163341312
EmoDragonZ