/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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To >>163235665 this anon in the last thread, unfortunately it is a high poly mesh that cannot be made with sliders. This is what happens when you pull her face data.

I'll reply with an image when I do a full rip onto my character in just a moment as well.

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>>163236627
>he doesn't know about bell maidens

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>>163236791
This is what happened when I directly pulled her face to my character instead of just trying to copy sliders.

>>163236283
Thanks for the info, some of these sound fun. Got anything for Pyro or is that a one size fits all type of thing where there's just not much room to level up differently?

How would you make co-op in Souls games more challenging? Should bosses gain 10x their normal HP?

Can somebody tell me how much damage a 40STR/40INT Manus Catalyst R2 does on another player

>>163236906
spoopy

>>163237094
35

What else is there to really do in the rat covenant after filling up all the lockstone holes in the areas you defend? There are not that many I know of outside of here that I don't have filled up yet.

>>163237347
torture poor souls who wander into your funhouses.

>>163236791
>>163236906
damn, thanks for trying. really disappointed though I've never played BB but it looks like BB has higher mesh faces for player characters like some of the npcs do in DS3.

Post QTs

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>phantoms have a chunk of their health taken off
>and half of their estus uses
>Invaders lose their souls in the spot where they died
Not even getting into the absolute shitshow that is the build and weapon balance in this game. How the hell did they screw it up this much this many games in? Figured they would have had this shit locked in by now.

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>>163237746

>>163237801
>>Invaders lose their souls in the spot where they died
Fucking hate that shit

>>163236938
>tfw typed out several builds with huge descriptions/justifications but accidentally deleted the tab

going to kms

doing a tl;dr version, just ask questions if you want more details

pure pyro: pick pyro and gimp vigand endurance until you can get: 30 attunement, 40 intelligence, and 40 faith

quality pyro: pick pyro then gimp vig and endurance until you get 25 str, 25 dex, 30 fai, 30 int.

good build for omnicasters, but miracles and sorceries will be vastly weaker than pyromancies, so use the other schools of magic for their utilities such as healing

An EXTREMELY fun, but EXTREMELY difficult build to use is something like what PvPSkillz shows here in this video around 17:34: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12CM5GEXOFw&t=2s

The mixups are fun and limitless, and that build is extremely satisfying to play.

>>163237746
(You)

>>163237746
Nana

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r8

>>163238082
> but miracles and sorceries will be vastly weaker than pyromancies
At 40 INT + 40 FAI, Crystal Chime is the second most powerful sorcery and miracle catalyst in the game.

The only problem will be that the highest-damaging spells (CSS, White Dragon Breath, Sunlight Spear) require 45+ of the stat. Still have access to plenty of decent spells though.

>>163238425
the two lines proceeding the "quality pyro" build, are intended for the quality pyro build

pure pyro is self-explanatory. chuck fireballs until you win or die

>>163237072
health gain doesn't do shit, bosses just need to re-target more often

>>163238401

>70 STR
>Not 40 END when you're using a UGS

>>163238401
let your memes come true, anon

>>163238401
just go 39 vig 66 strength 10 dex 25 vit and FOURTY END

FUGS needs end more than any other weapon in any souls game besides powerstanced avelyns. Fucking eats it for breakfast.

you gain literally no damage by putting 4 extra points into strength

>>163237801
>invaders also get fuck all for souls from killing host

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After that one scythe post in the last thread I realized it was probably fair to rate the PKGS along with the Great Scythe. Also edited some text and resized some images to fit better. This will probably be the last version of the tier list until the next balance patch.

>Greatsword of Judgment
>Sword wave goes for the shins instead of the torso
As funny as the idea is that's really annoying.
Otherwise this is a fun sword.

what level should i be for ng+ invasions and pvp? it seems as though as soon as i go above sl80 everything dries up. what ng/location should i be sl125?

>>163239739

You should only free aim unlocked when doing the WA beam as with the MLGS R2s. For some reason when locked on it aims downward and only the legs of players right in front of you.

>>163239790

If you want to do NG+ pvp anywhere from 100 to 120 is fine for arena and RSS duels. If you want to do invasions don't go beyond 80 unless you want to do exclusively Painted World, Grand Archives or post-Pontiff invasions.

>>163239904
okay, thank you. time to trim my mugenmonkey build back to sl80. i'll post it here when i'm done.

>>163239601
>still only two weapons in top tier

why isn't dark sword up there? it's still the best SS and R1 machine

>>163237072
Add bosses that can attack multiple targets at once without turning their back to another.

Dark souls AI is (probably) coded very similar to Armored Core AI, where it basically tries to maintain a fixed distance and then has constant turn tracking to face whatever target is in front of it, then switch target priority based on whomever is closer.

A lot of boss problems would mostly be solved by giving them wide sweeping attacks whenever someone got behind them, as well as giving them more attacks that hit multiple times /wider areas to deal with multiple people.

DS2. Its my first time using greatswords. I chose to use Pursuers greatsword. What stats should I focus on?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/128096

rate please

>>163240417
50 int 50 faith 50 atn

>>163240386

Dark Sword is not top-tier still for many a reason:

>Slightly more stamina consumption compared to standard straight swords
>AR nerfs gives it slightly less AR than a Broadsword at 40/40 and the Sunlight Straight Sword at 40/40/16
>terrible R2s that aren't godlike Straight Sword pokes
>also a terrible WA that isn't Stance

It still has respectable AR and the third longest straight sword range but it doesn't have enough going for it otherwise to move it to top. Anyone who says the Dark Sword is that OP now needs to stop repeating launch release memes.

>>163240637
does that mean 40/40/16 battery is at least partially-eligible for top-tier?

or does the lack of a combat-usable weaponart kinda make it suck?

>>163239601
I feel like there's an overwhelmingly dense population of high tier weapons solely because the meta isn't very well defined yet, so there's not much distinction between 'situationally high tier' and actually high tier.

DS2 had a lot of high tier weapons until later versions when it was realized that counter modifiers were actually a lot more abusable than poise for trading, so hammers took a nosedive in their usefulness.

>>163237072
Why do you want to make it more challenging?Isn't the point of co-op helping the player beat a boss he keeps dying too? If it just became harder most of the people wouldn't bother using humanity and summoning help. On the other hand it would be more fun for players that already beat that boss.

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Cute?

>>163240572
I don't think this will best suit my needs.

>tfw bosses don't have co-op exclusive mechanics

>>163240739

The SSS needing slightly more stats then the standard quality build without really benefiting from that FAI otherwise makes it lower, and the WA does lower it as well especially since its affects are nerfed in PvP. Straight Sword Stance is absolutely amazing and any SS that lacks it is worse for it.

>>163240750

For me there's a lot of high-tier weapons because there's a huge amount of weapons in 3 currently that are terrific with the only thing separating them from others in their class being a few minor stats like AR, range, speed and rarely moveset.

>DS2 had a lot of high tier weapons until later versions when it was realized that counter modifiers were actually a lot more abusable than poise for trading, so hammers took a nosedive in their usefulness.

The problem is there is nothing similar in 3 due to the relative lack of depth. The 'meta' in 3 for lack of a better term is punishing whiffs with your own attack and trading blows with HA weapons until one side runs out of patience being a passive asshole. Counter modifiers played a big part in 2 but there's nothing to add to 3s mechanics beyond the still very simplistic HA system that needlessly obfuscates a lot of numbers.

>>163239601
Put Great Scythe lower

it blows solely because it's a piece of shit compared to every other one

>>163240417
>>163240879
40 strength by the look of it, though it might have the same moveset as the Greatsword, but I don't remember.

>>163241286

There's only a 20 AR difference between it and the Corvian on a 40/40 Refined plus a slight loss of range, it's not that much worse despite being made obsolete by it.

>>163241381
That's the thing though. Pontiff reaches near its AR with only ONE stat investment, and Corvian totally invalidates it.

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>>163240838
Cute!

>>163241494

I agree on both those points but it doesn't make the Great Scythe on its own worse. It still has all the benefits of the basic Reaper moveset post buffs with acceptable AR. It's literally just a 'slightly' worse Corvian so I'm fine where it is.

>>163241286
>>163241381
>>163241494
Scythe guy who posted in the last thread here.

Great Scythe is KILL YOURSELF tier because it has no advantages over any other scythe at all. It's not a BAD weapon, there's just no reason to use it. Throwing it in shit tier would be retarded because it's not shit, just worse than every other scythe.

I wish this game was more open and had alternative ways of crossing the map

Something along the lines of a US > CotD

Grand archives not being locked, maybe have a grand archives to abyss watcher travel, demon ruin skip to yhorm, or some shit like that

I just really hate how monotonous the PVE experience becomes, I enjoyed going through dark souls 1 several times because of the fluidity of the map

DS3 is just so boss gated, it's tiring, your only real choice in the game is if you're gonna go fuck aldritch or yhorm first

>>163243084
>DS3 is just so boss gated, it's tiring, your only real choice in the game is if you're gonna go fuck aldritch or yhorm first
this

do the dragons on the cliff near boletaria only stay asleep if you got there without dying once?

I didn't play this game for a few days and I turned into worthless shit.

>>163243240
They completely disappear after you open the gate to Phalanx iirc

>>163243259
Same here, friend

No idea how people do those no hit runs at sl 1 in ng + 7

Just finished up on my sl 100 solo vs twin princes on ng + 7 and that shit was not fucking fun

Can't imagine not using any estus or getting hit

>>163243558
has anyone done sl1 NG+7 without getting hit?
or do you mean just healing in bossfights?

>>163242732
>no seperate footwear slot so you can wear firekeeper footwraps with slave knight leggings

why live?

So has anyone got an idea on how Zullie started swapping character/NPC animations? I've been digging around trying to see how the animations are called but every time I try to have an animation override it just swaps back to the one it was doing and keeps on doing that.

No one will even know what I am talking about or how to begin most likely, but it's better than asking on the CE forums

If only zullie was still here...

>>163243980
it would probably be just like wearing slave knight leggings. and you could try to put one of them in the hair slot

>>163244169
I just wanna know how to get that halfsword grip by swapping the hold pose or something

>>163244441
Halfsword grip?

You mean holding a GS like a spear?

>>163244527
Yeah. Can you use it on UGS like the Zwei? Figure it would look pretty tight.

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>>163244563
Animation swapping has been PRETTY difficult since every weapon has it's own animation sequence for everything. I have found stuff through random testing though.

(although Zullie had found some of them prior, but they've gotten updated with new effects such as in the webm)

>>163240883
>forced summoning if you want to see the boss' entire moveset
Maybe in the boss' NG+ form also used these moves or something.

Or maybe some bosses could summon invaders to help them LGK style if the player brings a phantom to the fight.

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What do you think he is looking at?

>>163245262
He's watching all the players get twinked.

>>163245262
Why does every /dsg/ player always have trash fashion in DS1

>>163244441
People complaining about 3 phantoms in DS3:
DeS had this too so when you gush butthurt towards ds3 and claim it's gone casual shet up you pcuck cunts and go play the first game of the series.

>>163245262
>tfw you know there are demons around here but you got lost in some tower
>tfw you just want to make Gwyn proud
>tfw your entire body was burnt away and you're just a soul eternally bound to charred black armor filled only with ashes but your feet still hurt

>>163245434
I just tried looking as edgy as possible for my bleed build. Did it work?

>>163245262
either the knight shield or he's trying to locate the bkh knight in darkroot
>>163244441
in ds1 it was possible. assuming it works similarly, you can switch hold pose to a spear, but the hand will move towards the grip for any attack. what you want is to switch a 2h attack of the sword to a 2h attack of a spear. in ds1 you couldn't change individual moves, it was either the whole moveset (or if the weapon you're mimicking had some special/unique moves, just those moves). you could for example do a pretty decent job halfswording in ds1 if you changed the special moveset of a gs to sk spear

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>kill someone and their phantom
>get invited to a "Git gud, casul!" Steam group
???
I thought by killing a 2v1 I would be better than the host?

how many throwing knives would it take to remove dragon in dark souls 1 where you can hit its tail under the bridge?

>>163245481
i went on the wiki page for tears of denial and all i saw was tears from people butthurt about it in the comments

Which i found funny when i remembered how second chance was 100x worse

>>163245621
It takes something like 30 arrows provided you don't miss any so it would take a LOT of throwing knives.

>>163245613
>salty faggots in charge of rational thinking
it's fanmail, be proud

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>>163245613

>>163245613
I once had a guy invite me to a group he created after I killed him and his 2 fuckphantoms 3 times in a row calling me a cheater, I sent him an invite to a git gud group and he deleted his group a minute or two after

I was proud of that.

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Got Demon's Greataxe from the second boss I've fought
this is going to be unwieldable for a long time, isn't it?

>>163246789
>46 STR
Yes, unless you pump all your points into STR right off the bat (which is what I would do).

/dsg/ pls spoonfeed me the best dex weapons to use

Finally starting DaS3 after getting souls fatigue from playing BB too much a while back

>>163247101
to use for pure DEX builds*

i enjoy the silent relationships of souls

>aldrich faithful invasion
>2nd guy shows up
>we look for the host all over
>i end up finding him and start fighting him on the ledge
>spooky ledge fight ensues
>2nd guy shows up with a bow
>he lands a headshot and the host stumbles off the ledge to his death

>>163247179
forgot the rest
>hours later in grand archives
>i get invaded by the bow dude
>he finds me and collapses
>i emote back to him
>he jumps off the rooftop

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Odd question to ask here but does anyone have a HQ rip/vector for SoC's helmet from the collector's box

>>163247264
Using any decent, free image editing software, you can easily make a stencil of the helmet from the image you posted.

Just use an easy marking/wand too man, Photoshop is like 35 years old dude, get with the times.

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rate my fashion souls

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>>163247179
>>163247250

I have a story too.

>summon Death for coop
>face is actually modeled as close to a skull as he could
>is a pretty cool guy but ends up dying to Heysel
>be afk later in Cathedral, posting here
>get invaded by the same guy in Cleansing chapel without noticing
>he patiently waits for me to come back
>we both bow
>have a really nice and lengthy duel despite my flame arc'd claymore taking 70% of his HP in each hit

>>163247540
stinky smegma/10

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How did you all like For Honor beta?

The game seemed like a wet dream for a souls pvp player to me.

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>>163247941

I didn't get an invitation

How's the Moonlight after the last patch? It seems to swing a little faster but that might just be me.

>>163248094
sign up for the january beta anon

Did anyone ever figure out what the deal with Dark Firelink was?

Also I'm replaying the game for the first time and god damn 3 has some fucking great atmosphere. Lothric Castle is a huge pain in the ass, but the aesthetic of it is top tier.

I'm going to be For Honor's scottjund
You will see

>>163216164
What happened to enb?

>>163248253
I don't know who that is.

i love when a host dc/s right after he dies

It's not like I'm in this for the dregs

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>>163248541

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>>163248253
>>163247941
>mfw playing valk because everyone gets so upset when i slap them around
What a great character.

being an unoriginal cosplayfag, should I name my valorheart user Achilles or Maximus. Achilles does that signature sprint R2 like 50 times in the Troja movie and he actually has a helmet, feels like the better choice..

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>>163248541
wew

>>163236791
She has the same eye as the fat lazy bland cow bitch from from dark souls 2.

If you use the Pontiffs eyes and oldwolf + Dancers l2

will you do some seriously damage?

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>>163248802
>using Valorheart to cosplay as some fag and not Sophitia, Cassandra, or Pyrrha

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>>163248802
Name him TRUMP MAGA

>>163249234
500 then they roll out

>>163249378
Use him to host, and drop items for invaders so they will leave, so he can buy his victory too.

>>163249378
Wouldn't trump make more sense with havels shield or something?

>>163249291
>Maximus and Achilles are fags
>wants me to cosplay as a female anime character
I neither have autism nor am I a virgin, don't play female characters.

>>163249427
not a fan of trump winning are we?

>>163249427
if by buying his victory you mean pandering to people who want to profit then you're right

>>163249489
I wanted him to win, but not like that.

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>>163249427
>Trump bought his victory

Not unless he paid Hillary to run.

>>163249430
Shields for weapons are garbage in DS3, they didn't even have Orma and Reeve or something similar.

Just better to go with a MAGA Lion theme instead and the brass armor and Pontiff crown.

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>>163248839
>>163248541
I love these.
Any more edits like these?

>>163244169
>>163244647
Have you tried messaging her on Youtube or something?

>>163249580
You know why I never buy Souls games on PC? Because no matter how much better you play the game, you can't win while playing by the rules when your opponent is going outside them to cheat.

Russian hackers tend to be the most annoying shit to deal with in the PC Souls Games too.

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>>163249690
I have a few webms too but they're only good with sound.

>>163249815
You know, Lucy, for someone who never plays Souls games on PC, you sure are comfortable acting like you have a lot of experience playing Souls games on PC.

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>>163249785
>her
Him.
And he comes around the general occasionally.

I was surprised to learn that Crestfallen still lurks

>>163250336
>Him.
Her. You have to allow yourself to believe.

>>163250126
>You know, Lucy, for someone who never plays Souls games, you sure are comfortable acting like you have a lot of experience playing Souls games.

FTFY

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>>163250425
Look. We don't have cute girls in our community ok?
It's all normal looking guys pretending to be cute girls online and the sooner you realize that, the faster you can begin the healing process.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Wa4bx6t-A
This is not who you're talking to online when someone's acting cute with an anime avatar. At "best" it's a tranny or a really feminine gay man If that's what you prefer then the more power to you because that's what you're going to get on the internet , in the most likely scenario it's a regular dude putting on an act for fun or to get off.

>>163250912
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Wa4bx6t-A [Embed]
Couldn't even make it 10 seconds in

>>163250912
If you're hoping to ask >her for info, wouldn't it be to your benefit to play along anyway?

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>ds3 will never have a bow with simon's bowblade moveset
>we are forever stuck being unable to move while shooting, having windup between each normal shot, low projectile speed, short range and painfully low damage

>>163251139
I'd play along if I knew/thought they'd want that because Zullie's done a lot of good work but I think Zullie clarified that they're a dude due to misconceptions and ERPfags.

>>163251038
but quelaag a cute!

officially sick of ds3, spiritual ds4 when

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How do you make non-potato faces in DaS1?

>>163251330
you don't
bb character editor is the only good in series

>>163251330
That's a good Benedict Cumberpatch.

>>163248118
B-bump?

>>163240750
>so hammers took a nosedive in their usefulness.
That's not the reason I dumpstered them. They were all massively outclassed by nearly every weapon type.
They lacked any way to be aggressive with their awful running attacks.
They had poor range and no "hyper armor". You had to constantly be in someone's face which was exploitable.
The best way to use a hammer was to turtle and use the Craftsman Hammer's 1hr1s with some extra 1hr2 roll catches.
When you did that, you just had a poor straight sword.

>>163249427
a small loan of 99 embers

>>163250126
Who said I had no experience with them?

>>163252401
Then declare bankruptcy when the dark wraiths come for their share, making a small fortune while screwing everyone that partnered with you.

>>163248118
greatswords were buffed. if it doesn't have "wolnir" in its name, any greatsword is great
>>163251330
andre's cranial ember

What are the odds the last DLC has some SUPER SEKRIT lore about the Primordial Serpents?

>>163252696
It's going to be in the boss soul of the artorias rehash fight item description

>>163252696
i think it's supposed to be a continuation of the first dlc and that had some references, so it just might

>>163252802
Does it really? I never wound up buying it because I heard it was crazy short, like 4 hours. I figure I'll get it when they bundle the whole thing together with all the DLC

What are the chances of another separate edition like sotfs?

>>163252876
it has a big old mural in the main bossfight and the "abyss dragon" the millwood knights fought may or may not be a serpent

>>163252969
Literally free $$$ so yes

>people still getting upset when you use mask of the mother
xD

is it possible to beat gravetender with a +2 longsword? I do like 40 damage a hit(clean hit without shield) and 200 riposte

>>163253504
Why are you not using something like a rouged bandit knife or a fire broadsword or a raw ASS instead?

>oversized, ugly slabs of iron are all shit
>believable, realistic weaponry is almost all high-tier
Is Miyazaki trying to tell us something?

Were there any performance patches since release?

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>>163249690
made this one last night

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>>163249690
>>163254403

>>163254403
Fucking perfect

>>163253964
The age of magic is dying.

>>163254659
I want to know that man's level of satisfaction.

>>163255391
what is this, something like the skull ring but forced on someone else?

>>163255391
That's beautiful.

>>163255527
She summons those enemies and they attack you. For a short time, Shaman Bone blade turns other enemies against whatever it hits. So she summoned them, they attacked her instead of the player.

>>163255527
Shaman Bone Blade. Consumable item with the Rapport effect from Dark Souls, turns targets you hit in to allies for 20s.

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>>163255391
This really should be in DS3 instead of seeds.
Pulling this off against invaders was the raddest shit ever.

>>163255805
>This really should be in DS3 instead of seeds.
undead rapport

>>163255850
He said "instead of", not "along with". Seeds are shit and should be removed.

>>163255850
Short-range consumable item that works on all enemies and needs no investment. Rapport is different.

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>>163255893
>Seeds are shit and should be removed.

>>163256145
>he's such a skilless piece of shit he needs seeds to deal with invaders
disgusting

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>>163256185
>he needs seeds
>needs

>>163256145
>invaded by a red/purp
>can summon two white phantom bodyguards
>guaranteed to have a blueberry appear
>can get a third white if you're willing to finger, maybe even a second or third blue if you camp hard enough
>all of your allies can heal with their seven estus flasks
>all of your allies can use the full arsenal of tools available to the player
>all of your allies can equip rings to hide their status and make it even more difficult to single out and kill the host

Man, it's STILL too hard! I wish there was a way for me to literally turn every enemy in my game in to a threat too!

>>163256386
>3 white phantom limit
>guaranteed bluefaggot
>inability to use some switches for invader
>seeds
Tanimura should've been fired after DS2 instead of being allowed to taint DS3 with this garbage as well.

>Fight a guy who can actually parry and he deals more damage with a hornet ring.
>I beat him at his own game by doing a good parry.
That was one quick fight though.

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>>163256386
I can't help but notice that you're glossing over the fact that most invaders will be optimized for wherever they're invading and they'll have builds meant to kill people, which also probably means 7 sips at +10.

Invaders, as a rule, are cheesy faggots looking to ruin someone's game. The only difference here is that it's your fun getting ruined instead, and that's if you even invade at a high enough SL to make truly dangerous phantoms a likelihood.

Giant's Seeds huh?
Almost all the raids I've done with them I mean the host using them I just black crystal out 'cos it's usually a fucking ganksquad that appears and I've only had one instance where it wasn't.

>>163256686
so you're basically saying that the only way to tip back the scale as an invader is to twink? so that low level invasions almost exclusively end with the host getting curbstomped while high level invasions almost exclusively end with the invader getting memed? and that system is ok in your opinion, doesn't need tweaking or anything.

>>163256686
Most invaders will have to min/max because that's literally the only way they can compete with the insufferable mountain of bullshit they need to get through to actually kill the host. Fuck off.

Seeds should be left in the game, but using the dried finger should disable them.

>>163257079
no, using a seed should allow friendly fire. wanna take away my cover? you don't get cover either

>>163256971
>so you're basically saying that the only way to tip back the scale as an invader is to twink?

No, I'm saying that invaders optimize for the areas they invade and always have. People even went as far as smurfing back in DeS. Twink implies low level.

>>163257057
>Most invaders will have to min/max

Most invaders min/max in every game in this series and if you're full of shit if you think it's a recent phenomenon.

>>163257168
Nah, that is too OP, and an invader should be able to take on a host and one phantom legit. It's when you have a full gank squad that enemies should only be on the invader's side.

>>163257178
>optimize for the areas they invade
right, they can spend their levels more accurately, since the build is finished. meaning they can get a few extra levels in vigor. hey, with both life+3 AND fap+2 could mean almost ONE HUNDRED EXTRA HP! you're right, i see that now. in fact, seeds SHOULD be removed but keep the effect constantly on. we wouldn't want anything other than twinks to actually stand a chance, ever, would we?
>>163257370
they don't HAVE to try r1 spam stunlock the invader while bullet-helling him with magic. they can avoid hitting each other

Any news on DLC2?

>>163257640
2 more hours

>>163257780
dank meem

>>163257079
Agree.

>>163253964
>believable, realistic weaponry is almost all high-tier
I just wish it was more than just straight swords.

>>163257594
If you'd put as much effort into the game as you do into being a condescending cunt then you might have a better time in your invasions.

Invaders are still very dangerous at high levels (around Irithyll I often start to see cookie cutter OSOK greatweapon + caestus builds) and it seems like you have to draw up some nightmare scenario to make it seem otherwise.

>>163258226
It is, the CCS and the sellsword twinblades are very nice models. The mail breaker is also nice but your character holds it upside-down and cuts with the spine.

>>163258226
curved swords, crossbows, spears. glaives used to be too, but their SA got nerfed

>>163258226
>almost 2017
>still bitching about straight swords
Holy shit

>>163258474
>current year
>people disagree with me
wth

>>163239601
>javelin low tier
I don't know if this was discussed before but doesn't it have better damage because it's a strength weapon? Plus the WA has hyper armor with potential to headshot and the range is similar to a crossbow shot so the weapon has some niches going for it.

>>163258462
What's SA?

>>163258829
super armor, aka """poise""". you may have heard of it as hyper armor, but that's total unstaggerability, no thresholds

>>163258881
SA and HA are awful I hate poise as it is it's garbage. I parried a guys dual scimitar faggotry perfectly and took him down it was good.

>>163256830
>raids

You sound like an idiot

>>163258970
esl pls. i personally think a combination of poise and SA would be the optimal system

>>163258993
I am but it's not like I really give a damn.

>>163259056
Poise alone DaS1 poise I mean should be fine HA can be applied for big weapons so when you fight bosses you don't get ripped apart.

>>163259056
Nah, best system would be DaS1 style poise with BB style BSes.

>>163259179
DS1 poise with hyper armor? why not

Honestly, my major gripe with DS1 were the backstabs. BB / DS3 style backstabs would do tons for the game

>>163259194

So what you're saying is that BSes should be removed from PvP?

>>163259259
I would have to agree however I feel backstabs are a cheap mechanic and parries should be all we get I mean BB used parries well well and the backstabs were just charge an attack and it's merely a free visceral attack. I'd take no backstabs or DaS3 style backstabs.

>>163259273
No, but you shuld need t get the drop on them, or they should need to really screw up for you to land one.

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>>163237746

>>163257594
Have you ever invaded under SL 40 or so? It's pretty much impossible to lose and winning an invasion at those levels has never been something to brag about, compared to invading 50-70 (the closest thing to "fair" invasions for both sides) or at meta levels where winning means you just found a duelfag or actually stood up against a true gank and came out on top.
In fact, outside meta levels, you can find plenty of decent and easy invasions at dungeon, ADP, castle and even archives.

And if you do twink, nearly everyone at low SLs has half your HP unembered and you can usually have more HP than even the host.
You can even abuse areas like farron swamp for bigger advantages.

>>163259464
>Heterochromia and edgy eye colors.
No John, you are the faggots.

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spamming the twin straight swords rolling r1 is still a meme? jesus.

>>163259472
I abused Farron swamp with Wolves of Farron and have around 60 grasses. It was pretty fun on occasion I'd get some idiot who needed to actually be killed. I wasn't twinking I was just in the area and then kept my level low at all times as it's the latter half of this game where the bullshit flips up.

>>163259634
I parried some idiot who kept doing that to me and was able to defeat him like that. I've fought faggots who do that and running basic attacks and still parry them, if they survive they either panic completely running away or stop doing it entirely.

Somebody redpill me on the followers torch

>>163259574
And an eye scar to top it off

>>163260080
I don't care about scars this is a game with swords, axes shields scars can occur I'm fine with those. Heterochromia is faggotry and so it the unnatural eye colors. Blue eyes are best fuccboi.

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Anyone give me a hand with sister freida on ps4?

>>163260130
I don't think it's hetorochromia, but more like her right eye is blind since she got scarred there, but was originally like the other one.
Red eyes is an unforgivable sin though

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be there, /dsg/

>>163260229
What's the pass friend?

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Alright, so I've been gone a while, due largely to some real life troubles, but for anyone who was still waiting for updates to my existing stuff, or for the release of the size changing script and the timestop script, today's your day:

http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls3/mods/136/?

I'm sorry it took this long to get done, hopefully now that some of the issues I've been having are resolved I'll be able to be more timely about these kinds of things.

>>163260380
4chan

>>163260403
DELETE THIS
I remember you

>>163260464
Invaded, putting it down now

>>163260403
Hey Zullie, can you confirm or deny this >>163251298
>I think Zullie clarified that they're a dude due to misconceptions and ERPfags.

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>>163260403
>not zawaurdo.webm

>>163260403

TOKI WO TOMARE

>>163260689
Rip, that was nasty

>>163260970
Yeah when she winds up for that long it's usually nasty
She's going down lad

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>>163260768
Well, I usually don't talk about that kind of stuff because it doesn't often lead to productive discussions, but I can deny that. I'm female.

>>163260853
I already had one named that.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>163261030
Thanks family

>>163261397
Anytime dude, enjoy post Friede sadness

>>163261236
> I'm female.
Can i modify your hex code bb ; )

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yesterday i used a save file to get straight to pvp. i feel guilty and am now starting fresh...why do i have a conscience

>>163261484
dlc was so short :(

>>163261643
I know, bosses and areas are really good though and that's exactly the problem
You kill Champions?

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>>163236791
>>163236906
Okay, so quick summary of how all this works.
Player Model NPCs have an entry in the CharInitParam that tells them what their equipment, stats, and other things are. Among their entry in the CharInitParam, there's an ID that leads on to an entry in the FaceParam, which is where their face data is stored, obviously.

The thing is, the ONLY NPCs that use the CharInitParam, and by extension the FaceParam, are NPCs who use the same model as the player, IE "Player Model NPCs". So when the game tries to get to the Face Param for an NPC that is not a Player Model NPC, it's not really pointing at anything.

>>163244169
>>163244647
The method I used for forcibly playing animations is something I found by taking the SpStayControl from DaS1 Debug and finding it again in DaS3. There's a whole lot you can do in DaS3 just by assuming they left it in from DaS1.

>>163261643

It's what happens when you summon for bosses, fuccboi.

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>>163260403
Stay gold child.

>>163261236
can you make it so only sillyman friezes, not the stand?

>>163257594

I've said this multiple times in the past in these threads in these sorts of conversations, but really the only thing that bothers me in the game is the seed of the giant tree. Honestly I wouldn't really have a problem with the rest of the system if that was removed, because I don't mind taking on a gank as long as they're actually trying to progress through the level and I can use mobs to my advantage to even the odds.

Because I'm not there for rewards. I don't need embers, I don't need tongues or sunlight medals. I'm there to fuck people up, to stop their forward progress for as long as possible. To kill them if I can, but as long as I could ambush a gank through every important mob in the level and they eventually got to the boss after all that, I'd be satisfied.

All that said, with current conditions, yeah SL60 and below invasions are the best. Twinks really do help balance things out, I'm also very thankful that the ember heal glitch exists and most people don't know about it. Honestly with a good build with high survivability/damage output, hornet parrying being the most common, it really isn't that bad dealing with ganks in low to mid level invasions. Even blues are often just free 2 estus. Mostly just gotta be willing to run away when the situation calls for it, heal up, then come back in and fuck people up. Plenty of gank spank invasions I still have more than half my estus left.

Ps4
I have a Uchigatana, Bloodlust, Sharp warden twinblades, drakeblood gs, gotthards, pyro, all slabbed.
I don't want any of these, if anybody wants them let me know

>>163259472
>Have you ever invaded under SL 40 or so? It's pretty much impossible to lose and winning an invasion at those levels has never been something to brag about

this nigga...

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>twinaxes at just 40STR/12DEX have almost 400 AR
>they ruin the HP bars of bosses in seconds
I'm in love.

>>163261397
>literal irl healslut

MUH DICK

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>>163261920
Yeah, there are two methods I've used for the timestop. The simple one uses some speed values I found a long while back, one affecting all characters and one affecting just the player, so you "freeze" them by setting all characters to 0.0001 and the player to 10000, effectively leaving your speed at 1 since they multiply together. The other variant uses a flag for "No Update", which freezes the affected character directly, but you have to find it per each character you'd want to affect.

So, using the No Update method, you would just freeze Sulyvahn specifically and leave everyone else unchanged.

>>163261809
Zullie you're a beast.

I figured that the facedata was exactly how you said it was but I thought it would have been funny to try (which it definitely was)

In regards to the animation, this is actually very helpful. I found out last night talking with someone that the idle animation I was looking for (ie the "last animation used") was ACTUALLY -1 when I was searching for just 0.

<3

>>163261920
Assuming what zullie has shared with me, it would be as easy as changing the animations right when you set the game speed to 0.

>>163262737
>>163262758
One of you fags show me pontiffs face up close please

>>163262737
i wanted the stand to not be affected, not pontiff to be the only one to not be affected. although i guess since there is no other enemy there, it's kind of the same thing

>>163262174
>I'm there to fuck people up, to stop their forward progress for as long as possible.

Yeah, that kind of thinking is probably why From implemented the seed in the first place. Invaders running into mobs like pussy bitches to avoid combat isn't fun for anyone. It's not fun for the invader, it's not fun for the host and it's not fun for the phantoms either.

So for that reason the seed is good because if an invader is going to be a pussy bitch, they're getting seeded.

>>163243084
Profaned Capital should have been below Demon Ruins, Archives opened from the start, and Abyss Watchers should have been past the Church (Trying to gank Aldritch but he was gone)

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>>163262919

>>163262948
Well, the other option would obviously be to find the Stand's speed modifier and set it to 10000 along with the player's. Then everything other than the player and the Stand would be affected.

>>163263035

Oh, the "invaders are pussies" response again.

In a thread where the insane amount of advantages summoner class hosts get has been explained in detail.

Oh.

Please, keep going. I'd tell you to stop making a fool of yourself but honestly I doubt that would stop you, so I might as well enjoy the show.

>>163252876
It has the (Second?) best boss fight in the game. It's about the same length as AotA

>>163263235
oh. i thought of that but assumed it wasn't possible, that the there were 2 values, one for all chars and one for just the player

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>>163263303
You think Gravetenders is that good?

Please tell me you mean Gravetenders and not rehash Maria. Please.

>>163251167
It would be relatively easy for them to implement this too, given that bows are fucking useless one handed. Just make a bow with a onehanded curved sword moveset, that switches to a bow when 2-handed. Bonus points for giving it a mechanic like Friede's GS where holding L2 adds a stance with an L1 anime combo and a L2 AoE or projectile.

>>163263078
Thank you
Fucking cool

>>163263663
literally the only thing they need to do is to speed up standard shortbow R1 and allow movement during shooting animation

>>163263969
A paired bow-weapon would be pretty neat though, but yeah those changes would help bows. It's actually kind of sad how the entire class is a meme now, even greatbows are only used for bridge trolling.

Are there any armors in 3 that make you look like a Greek myrmidon?

Preferably light armor but I'll take heavy as long as it has the aesthetics

>>163262373
It is anon, just because it's not early DeS bullying or 1hko ing parish nerds, doesn't mean they aren't pathetically easy.
Hosts and non downscaled phantoms could have seed, chain, raw ass, regen, obscuring and so on, but if you actually invade at those SLs you'll see how rare that is.
You could argue the effort to get those items from the invader takes skill, but you can ask faggots anywhere to drop everything but estus for you and carry your ass through bosses, so it's kind of a moot point
If you lose an invasion at those SLs, you either got counter twinked(as someone who twinks and counter twinks at the SL, it's very, very rare) or you fucked up and played like an idiot.

You are always preying on players being very new or ignorant, which they are way too often at the SL, so winning those is nothing like the average invasions of irithyll and beyond or the true ganking experience

>>163264154
the closest you could get is gundyr's chest, faraam helm and slave knight leggings, although you will probably have to tone down the chest and waist quite a bit

>>163264154
Closest I could come up with was Sunset helm, Dragonscale armor, Golden bracelet/Cornyx's wrap, Slave Knight leggings

Looks pretty good with Valorheart. It's the best I could find for a sort of 'ancient warrior' vibe, but the little booties on the Slave Knight leggings wreak havoc on my autism. I'll be searching for alternate leggings in the meantime.

>>163252876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiT2h42fPoo
Daily reminder that Ashes are longer than Artorias.

>>163264287
>>163264320
Thanks, yeah valorheart javelin and some shield. Thought it would look nice.

>>163263268
The seed is not the problem, all of the other advantages stacked together are.

Giving invaders something like a Foe's ring (obtained from maxing Aldrich) would mitigate the phantom gangfucks

At what SL is invading most fun?
I just got the orb and after trying it a couple of times at SL15 I have to say, that right now its pointless.
I either face host with downleveled phantoms / twinks / sentinels.
Sometimes all of them. 1v5 is just retarded.

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>>163264595

the only good invading is watch dogs. SL 25 ish

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Starting dark souls 3 for the first time.
Should I for the usurpation of fire ending for my first run ? I wanna maximize content since I probably won't play it twice

>>163248364
He recently got divorced and some people lurking around hate his guts.

>>163264595
Between 20 and 40.

>upper end of high wall
>undead settlement
>crucifixion woods
>farron keep
>cathedral of the deep
>watchdogs/blue sentinel summons virtually non-stop

I made a 20, a 30, and a 40. Best bracket by far.

>>163265054
>since I probably won't play it twice
Well, I'm sure you're glad to know From sacrificed replayability to please one-and-doners like you!

>Should I for the usurpation of fire ending for my first run ?
It's not like it matters all that much, but Lord of Hollows gets a tiny bit of special treatment so you should go for that.

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>>163264898

>>163261809
So I've realized that I don't have dark souls 1 because it was just being family shared over from a friend's account.

Would you be able to tell me the pointer address I'm looking for? (or at least what area?) I used the last animation area as a base area and just looked for 4294967295 nearby but I can't seem to find it even by doing a full search for the values he said were also nearby.

Sorry to be a burden

>>163265194
I've played the first like 3 times, Bloodborne one and a half, I just realistically don't think I'll play this more than once

>>163264595
for me SL120 full meta cancer gank spanks.

but for normal invasions I have a lot of success with sl50 +6 strength build, but you can also go +10 if you want to catch people who slab early. very few ganks and you avoid the twink olympics that plagues 20-30.

>>163264530

I'd take either but honestly it's a moot point anyways, the shit will never get fixed so as such I have no qualms about using the most OP build I can with whatever advantages I can get my hands on as an invader.

>>163264165

I don't think you understand. As an invader, I'm not looking for professional gank squads or counter-twinking hosts that just run away forever and occasionally turn-and-burn with their SS or GS, I'm looking for hosts and co-opers actually trying to play the fucking game and get to the boss. As far as I'm concerned, I'm just another mob trying to fuck their shit up as best I can.

This isn't a competitive fighting game like street fighter or some shit. It's about doing what's fun not "bragging", especially when the system is so unbalanced. both lone host scrubs and pro gank squads exist at low as well as mid levels. Invasions are not honor duels. I'm not here to have a fair fight, I'm here to hit below the belt and donkey punch you and your gang, I'm here to jump you when you're distracted.

There would be no point in invading in the first place if all it would involve is honor duels except instead of 1v1 no chugging it's 1v4 summoner class with twice the chugging and resummoned phantoms getting all their estus back. No one would play that.

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>>163264898
>furry
>russian
>honorfag and only when it's convenient for them
Do your part to exterminate the filth.

>>163236515
why the fuck did they make farron watchdogs an autosummon covenant? that shit takes ages, and I'm sl41 with +4 weapons

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>>163264898
only thing I could find that's not ebin parries

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>>163265976

MBA is so good :^)

>>163266204
>heavy-infused caestus

R A R E

I wish getting a partial parry against bosses didn't result in you losing a ton of HP plus having 0 stamina so you get hit by the second attack.

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>>163266004
>small as shit area with weak gimmicks
>even with two bosses you still don't get summons
>'reliable' sl range is short 20-30 sl
They should've turn more areas into covenant territories. I don't see why they couldn't make Aldrich summons at the Cathedral and Watchdogs summons extend to Roads of Sacrifice or Farron Follower areas.

>>163266204

>>163266516

We wuz kangs n shiet nigga

>>163265134
Why do they hate him? I dislike twitchfags in general but did he do something specific?

>>163266004
>I'm SL41

Probably too high in all honesty, SL35 +4 is where it tops out as, the most active probably being in the SL20-30 +3 range.

>>163266713
I don't, but last time there was this guy with the alimony meme and the just thing and he seemed to be haveng a blast about it.

>>163266516
>>163266825
I'm doing a 100% procent run on my character, guess I'll farm ghru's for the wolfgrass, whats thhe ideal sl range for aldritch faithful?

>DaS3
I wanna make a jester, but there's no jester set. Suggestions?

>>163267139
50-60 ideal range
You still get summons above that range but sl 90+ is where most of the cancer is concentrated

>>163266841
Why would you gloat over someone's personal life being destroyed like that especially if there are kids in the middle?
Oh well, not my business I guess.

>>163267215

Fallen Knight set

>>163265742
That's got nothing to do with what I meant. Invasions are not fair at all.
Sub 40 invasions heavily benefit twinks, which are the only invaders around the SL left. There's nothing worth discussing about them except strategies, which everyone already knows given how often they're repeated. Discussong those is like discussing ganking. You are free to do either, since the games allow those, but losing as either means you're pretty bad and winning is a hollow skilless victory. Of course, there's no harm if people have fun doing it, but no one really cares about whatever one does as a twink.

Contrast this with mid SL invasions which I called "fair", on the sense that everyone has different advantages but neither side is likely to have them maxed to win effortlessly, meaning more fun stuff can happen. Or meta SL gank spanks, where victory is very unlikely and are painful to do, but if you do win, then you probably have a very interesting story to show and you wrecked 3 faggots or more who deserved everything that happened to them.
Those are the worthy moments, talking about beating up people at low SLs is like talking about how you ganked a guy so badly he disconnected.

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>>163267289
You find all sorts of degenerates who's lives are miserable and their only solace are inflicting pain to others aka Schadenfreude :^)))

>>163266713
Retards here still hate him because apparently he "sold out" and shilled for DS2

>>163267691
oh, I just hate him because his face looks funny

>>163267831
u2

>>163267546

Honestly I'd say mid level invasions are even easier because you actually have the stats to use something like yhorm's to one-shot even hosts from full health. Something you generally don't have the stats to do at around SL35 +4.

I'd also say +4 invasions are more fun because due to how 7 estus makes a much bigger difference down there (even though even in crux woods a host can have up to 9 if they went to cathedral but didn't kill the abyss watchers, more if they just left crystal sage alive and beat the rest of the game with the dancer skip) and how a lot more weapons and builds are viable down there. When you get into mid level territory you're pretty much forced into hornet parries and spin2win or losing. The only real difference is you can take a lot fewer hits once you hit midranges, everyone has hornet ring when they riposte you, and the host has a lot more estus to heal with. Of course like I said it also allows you to easily beat everyone with a yhorms hornet riposte build, if you call that "more skillful" then okay I guess.

>>163264374
>>163263303
Guess I've been spoiled by the fact that I got the Artorias DLC super cheap years later

>>163263583
>has one move similar to Maria
>IT'S LE REHASH

Kill yourself.

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>>163267139
>finally get invasion
>invasion cancelled, timed out
>mfw

>>163268235
Which move are you specifically talking about?

I'm curious.

The ideal range for watchdogs is +3/+4 and SL30 right?

>>163268235
the move ain't even similar either, only the startup animation

>>163268494
+3 if you're super paranoid, but +4 is fine. And you should still get constant invasions up to SL40, which also lets you run through both the Cathedral and the Keep.

Yo, im shit at dark souls, but ive made it all the way through the first one, and im at the looking glass knight in second one.

anyways, ive been using the Pursuers Ultragreatsword during pretty much all of the game, and im now trying to find a faster/stronger weapon with good str/dex scaling, since ive been just dumping into those 2.

whats like really good str/dex scaling weapons that i could use?

>>163268295
friede in 3rd phase does a spinning jump similar to lady maria

>>163268928

i always end up using the dragonslayer's crescent axe. it's a bit short on reach but it has nice horizontal & vertical slices and has innate lightning damage to boot, on top of w/e you buff it with.

>>163269012
Okay. And the dozen other moves that are literally the exact same as Maria's just "ice/blackflame" edition?

>>163269167
and it scales well with str/dex?

cause thats all i care about right now.
i feel like i could be dealing double the damage im currently dishing out with the Pursuers sword if i found some thing that scales well.

>>163268928
I've always liked the Sun Sword, but I don't know if you do coop for sunlight medals.

So considering the entirety of Anor Londo was modeled. textured, and rendered, where we originally going to be able to explore more than just the castle?

>>163269428
oh, im so shit i dont even co-op.

like, i just try my best to make it through the games.
hell, i dont even roll, i just go sword/greatshield and turtle all the way.

Best scythe for LCK/Hollow build?

>>163269616
great corvian

>>163269616
Corvian is the best in general

Best AR, and highest bleed. Don't claim the self bleed is a bad thing, it bleeds you for less than regular bleed, making it a good counter to bleedfags.

>>163269201
>dozen
can you name 4?

>>163269947
>it bleeds you for less than regular bleed, making it a good counter to bleedfags.
As you as you cause the bleed and not them

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>tfw there's no mod that will make something resembling the original plan for Dark Souls, with all those cut areas and Priscilla as the Heroine
>same thing for DaS2
>a video of all those unique animations Priscilla supposedly had if you make her playable will never be uploaded
>no DLC where you can save Gwyndolin by time traveling to before the events of the game and telling him shit is gonna go down or outright fighting off Aldritch

How well does DS3 run on PS4?

Does most of /dsg/ play it on PS4 or PC?

>>163270232
Shitty. It can't even get 60 fps

PC. It's like a 90% PC from the stawpoll we had once

>>163270073
You know Priscilla as the heroine meant likely her being a level up girl?
Izalith's quality was sacrified so we'd have a single game free of the cancer that those NPCs are

>>163270232

It's 30fps on console instead of 60 on PC, but the overall graphics are better than >75% of the PC screenshots I see in these threads.

Most of /dsg/ plays on PC, but the overall PS4 community and activity is far greater than the PC community.

>>163267691
His DS2 shilling was cringy and blatant but if you buy into endorsements of eceleb trash you're a retard and can only blame yourself when you get burned. None of them are "bros", they're there to make money. Very few actually care about the Souls franchise other than as a potential to generate income and efame.

That said, very few of them actually do harm to the overall community so getting mad over them is pointless and dumb, a bit like internet sjws who are looking for reasons to be outraged over something.

>>163270073
>Wanting to save Gwyndolin
I for one welcome the age of the deep.

>>163263035
I really enjoyed seeds as invader in 2. Let me bring an army to the host. It's amazing that they fucked up such a simple thing in 3. Fucking miyasucky.

>>163249690
>no edit with Patches kicking him down

>>163270232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yfVbVR6S40
>30 fps with shitty frame pacing
Did you rike it?

>>163258731

Shit range.Has 431 AR at 60 STR which is still less than a 40/40 Refined Partizan by a few points. It has slightly slower 2HR1s compared to other spears. And the WA has so much wind-up it can only reliably hit great weapons that are about to R1 you up close. It has some nice but it has far more downsides that outweigh it.

>>163270624
>t. Pontiff Sulyvahn

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>>163271241

>>163249580
>>163249427

Hilary campaigned for 64 million votes who were guaranteed to already vote for her. Trump campaigned for the 84,000 swing votes that decided the election.

It was a case of having a huge amount of support for her directed at the completely wrong direction. Why? Because in most elections, having a 2-3% lead = guaranteed win in that state. So she didn't campaign in states with that lead (Pennslyvania, Wisconsin, Michigan), which are traditionally democrat states and were in her favor.

In prior elections, undecided voters usually split 50/50, but in this election there was a Bradley Effect. This is where people who support a candidate list themselves as undecided because of the candidate's controversy, scandals, etc.

So if there's 10% undecided voters, and because of the Bradley Effect, it's actually 60/40 in favor of trump, a "guaranteed win" of 2-3% switches over to a loss. Hilary's campaign assumed that the more scandals trump had, the more undecided voters would vote AGAINST him, not for him.

So looking at those 84k voters in michigan, wisconsin, and pennslyvania:
>while national unemployment was low, they are still in double digit unemployment in their areas
>they are not college educated, primarily white males
>they are too old to go back to college and start new careers
>their jobs were lost because of automation and globalization

So all Trump had to do was say something that those 84k would love to hear, but the 64 million who voted for Hilary would hate. "We're going to close our borders economically and bring your jobs back, even if it means slowing down the rest of the economy and raising prices 10-20%"

Trump ran on that platform, Hilary didn't stop him, and so those 84k voted for him. That was enough to swing the election, it has nothing to do with punditry or the candidates themselves. It's entirely a game of campaigning and strategy.

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>>163271550
That girl seems to die a lot.