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Never Ever Edition


>Tips for new players
You can change vocations at level 10 at the Gran Soren inn or BBI.
Character appearance can be changed later on.
Don’t miss your sidequests: http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Side_Quest_Progression
Further info on "Must Do" sidequests: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qS9A47duONEwozGu8A6_oX_HyCxgBwbquGmlZqEQqqg/edit?usp=sharing
Understanding the romance system: http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Beloved

>Wiki you lazy shit
http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon%27s_Dogma_Wiki

==================================================

>/ddg/ Pawn Sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/156IeHCRWMcCTU4nkIIwGgjVBetjVu47C9TvAlAc5HUY/edit?usp=sharing

>Stat Growths
http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Stat_Growths

>RC Calculator
http://opsc.dark-arisen.com/calculator.php?cmd=calculate

>In-depth Beginner/Advanced Player Guide and FAQ
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17Avxu-W6BCjDrglXtHg8Z3sKB_z_5tlWhV1Vmf_YWHw

>Character Creator Sliders
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QfNzxImmAvPk0jUhfKdyjxwUBg8OUl9iQhLMBL_pEl8/edit?usp=sharing

>Mods available
http://pastebin.com/jcbPgLdj
http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/ro.uXOgwZkXAy5/latest

>Hotkey Script for PC Players
http://pastebin.com/7gju0zt8

>Modding on console and old pawns
http://pastebin.com/NMTBXnxA
>Guide to get DDO
http://pastebin.com/hywvK0qT

>DDO Beginners Guide
http://pastebin.com/xgzbcXNg

>Screenshot Guide
http://pastebin.com/6YtfNbcb

>Make webms
http://pastebin.com/4ipnGRND

>[un]official Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/postsliders

>Previous Thread: >>162801024
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>>163115653
BONES WALKING BONES
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TOP DRAGON EDITION
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EVERYONE

GRIGORI NEEDS YOUR STRENGTH
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>>163115653
This is a cruel OP.

>>163116078
[Raises arms]
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>>163116078
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Reposting the post of another anon

Arisen Must Die mode:

Solo playthrough, no pawns allowed
Hard mode
Found equipment only
Total defense rating must remain under 400 (including augments)
No picking up gold or RC drops
Base vocations only (no advanced or hybrids)
No dragonforging, if an item becomes inadvertently DF'd it must be discarded (not stored or sold) immediately
Can only kill things necessary to advance the story, must run from/sneak around all other mobs unless completely impossible to do so
No curatives except for Greenwarish (excluding Potent)
Must remain at Light weight or under
If you die or otherwise fail at any point during the Grigori fight the run is forfeit (failed arisen who lose to Grigori become lesser drakes)
Must clear all rooms of post-dragon Everfall at least once
Run is also forfeit if you die to Seneschal
Total deaths may not exceed 50, run becomes forfeit at 51 deaths
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We're on in VGL guys. Final vs X-Com.
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Ok this is it. Last fight. http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page click on hitbox as usual to see the stream.

>>163116078
[Raises Arms]
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>>163118491
RAISE UP ARMS ARISEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz1gqx0uRbQ
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>>163118491
Here we go, destroy them.
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Do it Rook.
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>red masterworks
WE CAN'T GO WRONG
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Just a Jape for MVP, make it happen
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WHAT DID YOU EXPECT

WITH MY HELP
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>>163118491
Hell yes!
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BONES, WALKING BONES!
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BONES
WALKING
BONES
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>2 saves in a row by bones
FUCK IT'S ALREADY GOOD BOYS
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Im going for NG+ as a mage for the first time.

What spells do i pick and what spells do i leave for pawns?
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BASED ROOK
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CAN'T STOP THE ROOK
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ROOK ALL TIME BEST PAWN
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BEST PAWN
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This fucking dragon/pawn team has been 10/10 this season.
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ROOK AGAIN
CAN'T STOP
WON'T STOP
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MOTHERFUCKING ROOK
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>>163118491
First pawn!
Best pawn!
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ROOK IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST
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Can anyone hope to stop this insane Rook+Grigs combo?
the answer is NO
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Take a moment to appreciate the hero ddg deserves
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Is there anyone who can stop this man?!?
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FUG
save us Rook
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THEY HOLD THE ADVANTAGE
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>that absolutely unopposed snektits goal
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OPEN YOUR EYES
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>>163118491
Fuck.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD
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>>163121232
1-3
ONE-THREE
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ITS OVER LADS

THE WIND IS PUSHING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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GRIGORI
GRIGORI
GRIGORI
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BEST DRAGON
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
GOLDEN GRIGORI
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>>163121335
1-4
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
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MVP

MVP

MVP
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HOLY SHIT
motherfucking Grigori does it again!
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We are the champion of this /vg/league. I still can't believe it guys.

This tournament, this performance and this team was all possible thanks to you. Thanks to you all for all of your support.
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>>163121853
god dude today was a fucking excellent trio of matches for us though, the entertainment was 10/10 all day.
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>>163121853
That was amazing, mate.
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>>163121853
What have i missed? What the fuck just happened?
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>>163121853

Congratulations, you destroyed them.
Incredibly fun match, Incredibly fun tournament,
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>>163122008
/xcg/ had a 99% chance to win.
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>>163122008
google implyingrigged.
in this wiki enter VGL and search for VGL 7.
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>>163122130
In what?
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>>163122008
We aughted the fuck out of /xcg/
We are the champions
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I'm getting Rook back.
I may be 100+ leveled, but he's hanging with me tonight
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>>163121853
Noice
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>>163122130
>99% chance to win
THAT'S X-COM BABY!
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>>163121853
amazing run my man
you did well in summer and you did even better this time around
great tournament, specially all the matches today
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>>163122261
Can you actually get Rook back somehow?
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>>163121853
You did great. Well done.
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>>163122389
He's in my pawn history

>>163121853
Great job man. Well done
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>>163122008
>What have i missed?

Basically:
Grigori best leading goal-scorer ever. Like, ever ever.
Rook first pawn best pawn.

Also, you can actually go wrong with Masterworks (don't get fooled by Caxton's relentless publicity campaign) , but when they don't go wrong they don't go wrong very well.
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>>163121853
Dude, when you can post some pics and webm, I need to save them.
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Now it's a meme match. Enjoy the fun out of it.
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>>163122931
I will lad, I will.
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>>163122906
Check the /4ccg/ /vg/ threads, most of goals are turned into webms on the go.
Have this though: https://0x0.st/9jO.webm
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>>163122931
Is it the "post game" of the tournament?
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>>163123134
yea
basically /4ccg/ is the final boss and everything is rigged in their favor
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>>163123035
Neat, I forgot the existence of that thread.
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Also I forgot. We need to put a star on the logo now.
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>>163121853
>those arrows.

Oh, wow, they actually hold the advantage this time.
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>>163123573
see >>163123196
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>>163123573
They are all 99 golds too, expect like a 9-0 win for /4ccg/. This match is just for fun.
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>>163122130
fuckin kek
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FUCK
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>>163122389
Pawn history

although you can make him yourself but I've never seen decent sliders for him
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Jesus.
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BONES FLYING BONES
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MASTERWORKS ALL
You can't go wronger than that.
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GRIGORI
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G
R
I
G
O
R
I
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Grigori is a real masterwork
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Holy shit, nothing can stop The Grigori.
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Of course Grigori scored, he's the real final boss.
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>10 saves
fugggg
BONES put in real work today
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>>163123365
Well. It's over.
I quote this post, because since we won the cup, we need a star on the logo. Can someone do it?
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>>163126361
Wait a minute, i've been gone for the day.

Did we fucking win it all?
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>>163126361
Bones and Grigori did marverls.

>Can someone do it?


I would, but I have literally 0 photoshop skill.
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>>163126551
Yes. Grigori scored on the final boss too and Grigori was the tournament's top scorer.
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>>163126627
Holy shit, i knew Grigori was a beast but damn, he really led the charge.

Wish i saw today's events
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>>163126361
What star do we need?
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>>163126551
Yeah, both the Freddies and X-Com got beyond destroyed.
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Congrats from /sog/ for winning the VGL. Offering you a dragon on a dragon as a reward.
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the enemies are too bullet spongy desu
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Is this thread about dragon's dogma again yet?
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>>163126736
http://www.hitbox.tv/4_CCVGL/

Without the _ you can watch the final day VOD once it pops out.
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>>163127332
oh thanks man, time to see Grigori do his thing
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>>163126920
neat
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>>163127146
Yes it is, we are talking about grigori after all.

>>163126954
Yeah, but most of classes can do a lot of damage too, MA with quad stacked magick rebalancer is a beast.
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Congrats on the VGL win /ddg/
You deserved it
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>>163126826
I mean really. We need something to work with.
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>exhaust all of Ayylinore's dialogue after talking to her when she appears
>already making the affinity sound
uh oh
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>>163129319
>not brining her the first time you see her
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>>163123365
I have zero skill with image editing and did this on paint, just an idea.
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>>163130202
It's a nice idea and I like it. It has to be a bit bigger though.
Would be nice to see it on the tail.
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>>163130641
Told you, no skill at all, but here is a sad attempt, couldn't get rid of the gold dragonforge background completely.
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>>163131968
I appreciate the effort. I see if I get someone that I know to work on it.
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>>163130641
Something like this?
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>>163132107
>Two stars
Maybe in VGL8
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>>163132107
Perfect, probably without the big star.
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>>163132328
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>>163126920
What a sportsmanlike thing to do. Appreciated.
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>>163130202

Oh, yeah that's a good idea. Maybe a star with the dragonforged symbol at the center?
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>>163132835
For now I put this version:
>>163132437

If you want to do little changes just put here them in the thread.
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>>163132107
Nah, have better stars.
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How's this
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>>163132437
Fixed a little.
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>>163133234
I like it.
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>>163133234
Personally I like it, put the dragonforged symbol at its center if you like the idea.
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>>163133234
make it a golden star
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>>163133002
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>>163133779
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Make a giant golden dragon background
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>>163134669
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>>163134923
I know gold has been suggested but it's too high contrast, sticks out like a sore thumb. Make it silver like E in general and put it where the tail is, centered.
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I tried to play around a little.
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>>163135042
>I know gold has been suggested but it's too high contrast, sticks out like a sore thumb.

I actually agree, but:
-I just put images that I found google on different levels, I can't do more than that with photoshop.
-it's a star actually used in the Italian Soccer Championship, as reference it's pretty nice.
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>>163135513
I prefer the star on the left, floats really nicely in the blank space there
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>>163135539
why don't you get some ideas from the past teams that have a star on their logo
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>>163135539
>>163135939
went ahead and looked them up for you
vgl1: http://implyingrigged.info/w/images/0/0a/Dsg_logo.png
vgl2: http://implyingrigged.info/w/images/3/3d/Dng_logo.png
vgl3: http://implyingrigged.info/w/images/2/2c/5N%40F_logo.png
vgl4: /dng/ again
vgl5: http://implyingrigged.info/w/images/3/34/Ffg_logo.png
vgl6: http://implyingrigged.info/w/images/9/93/Twg_logo.png
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>>163135752
Another dumb idea.
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>not using the Upgrade stars from the game
>not using all the three stars and leaving the last two slots empty so when we get another two championships we can fill them and at the fourth we go dragonforged
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>>163136360
>we'll have to win 6 times to get goldforged
jesus
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>>163135752
And the classic one.
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>>163135752
Or like this.
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Or maybe like this.
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>>163136949
Centered is good but put it below Dragon's Dogma General, over the tail. Then it'll be great.
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>come home from work
>ddg won
good shit
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>>163136314
The DaS one is pretty cool.
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Myuer, don't forget to upload the Masterworks All song somewhere.
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>>163137441
Just rip it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04qJU98XQkk
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>>163137018
Actually it looks even worse.
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>>163137528
Yeah, it's not a good idea.
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>>163137528
Yeah see, that's because you put it below the tail, not on top of the tail. Just place it directly beloe GENERAL.
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>>163137675
Damn, you are right. Now it's pretty decent.
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Quick fix.
Still, I hope there is someone with actual talent.
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Another quick fix.
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>>163138025
>>163138261
>>163138587
Yeah this looks pretty solid to me.
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And the last one.
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>>163138587
>>163138812

I love it. Its amazing what soccer has done for this general.
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>>163138812
is this star from the game?
any way you can make it more.. 'hd'
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>>163139005
Now that's done it's time to struggle to survive again.
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>>163139132
I copied it from >>163133234 with a few tweaks.
Not sure if there is better quality but it was the best looking star.
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>>163138812
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ddg/
Put this as the logo.
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>>163141679
Final cut with a slightly bigger star. Not sure which one is better.
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What are the best uses for Master Thief?
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>>163144379
Stealing the Winter Cup is what.
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AWAKEN

>>163139302
It wouldn't be the /ddg/ I know and love without a few used wakestones.
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I haven't played this in awhile and was going to get back into it.

For some god awful reason beyond me, I made my character and pawn both fighters.
So neither have them have any abilities in other vocations.

What's the most fun vocation (I'm about to do the DLC for the first time, if that has any affect on that choice) and what's the most useful pawn vocation?
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>>163146748
>using a wake stone after only 30 minutes since last post
come on son, learn the timings
a thread doesn't 404 until 1 hour and 50 minutes
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>>163146883
fighter is pretty useful for pawns
switch to assassin or strider imo
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>>163148116
Sorry, panicked when I saw the page 9.

>>163146883
Feel free to screw around with combinations, BBI equipment balances any lack of stats for staying too much in a class.
But if you feel fine with melee fighting you could pick assassin and maybe a ranger pawn like >>163148246 said, sorc pawns are pretty OP too.
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>>163148246
I played a Strider back when I played on PS3, not sure I wanna do that again.
I was thinking either Assassin or Magik-Archer.
MA seems pretty crazy.
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Is there any way to do a new game plus, without beating the game again? I want to start over, in my currently second playthrough, but I don't want to finish the main story just to do that.
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>>163148553
Both are great, just be sure you have someone that does magick damage if you pick Assassin.
MA is broken and Ricochet Hunter is fun to spam in a small room.
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>>163148681
switch to hard mode and switch back
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should I stream
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>>163149198
i'd watch
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>>163149198
>>163149531
That makes two of us.
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dead thread
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Can you put yourself out of fire if you have a water flask on you?
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>>163149531
>>163150501
alright gimme like 10 minutes
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Is there a way I can start a new game and hire my old pawn? Maybe Steam Family Share?
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>>163152130
yep, just like that
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live in like 2 minutes
twitch tv/illholdthemoff
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>>163152350
Alright thanks. Time to set that up.
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W-Why does Barnaby have high affinity to me?
Pawns can't love.
This is blasphemy
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>>163152572
I always assumed Barnaby received spirit from his arisen, since he acts autonomously in his management of the pawn guild.
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>>163152702
Makes sense
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so many possible little mods that would make life a bit better
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Who was most unexpected beloved you got /ddg/?
Did you sacrifice them?

Got Caxton once
I sacrificed him. Immediately felt bad.
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>>163154453
ayylenore was a legit surprise
why ;_;
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>>163154950
She ruined my chances of getting Quina
I forgot about the whole last person spoken to with affinity and started duchess in distress.
I was pretty upset.
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>>163154950
>>163155286
>TFW want Alinore just to cuck the Duke
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What stats should I set me and my pain pawn to at level 1 so that Capcom doesn't consider my pawn data corrupt?

I did
> me
> level 1
> fighter
> 450 HP
> 520 stamina
> 80 strength
> 60 defense
> 80 magick
> 60 magick defense


> pawn
> level 1
> strider
> 450 hp
> 520 stamina
> 70 strength
> 70 defense
> 70 magick
> 70 magick defense

I copied a fighter and strider level 1 pawn for those stats, but they aren't the same as the starting stats in the Wiki
they say that the stamina should be 540

http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Specific_Build_Objective:_Maximizing_Arisen_and_Main_Pawn_Stats
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>>163155790
Use the respec button, that'll get you the correct values. I haven't had any trouble with it after deleveling my L200 Pawn and Arisen.
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>>163155790
yea just click on that respec button and use those sliders
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>>163155790
540 is the stamina for a medium weight I think. If you're lighter you have less stamina to a floor of 500 I think. What is that tool? I've been editing it manually this entire time.
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>>163155894
>>163155986
oh thank you

but it starts at level 10? did we start off at level 10 in the beginning? I can't remember that far ...
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>>163156035
I bow to you, I could never do it manually ...

I went to Nexus Mods and downloaded a mod
http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/96/?

it was my first mod and somehow I figured out how to do it
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>>163156061
No, you don't. Hadn't noticed that, but I wouldn't trip... the first ten levels fly by.
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>>163156143
Wow that's a nice tool. Way easier than this
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>>163156175
thank you arisen-chan

I hope my pawn hasn't been softbanned by capcom :( I guess I'll find out in the next few weeks, if anybody hires my pawn
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>>163155790
Is pawn data corruption ban permanent? I noticed it on my main pawn when trying to get him on my alt account, even though he's been completely clean since I restarted.
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>>163156586
I hope not ... :(
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Loading my utilitarian mage pawn with spells, and I need something for damage. Would high ingle or brontide be better?
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>>163157086
Pawns are very bad at using brontide. Ingle is ok, but I prefer comestion.
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>>163157086
Neither. Get levin and Comestion instead.
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>>163157086
grand levin and comesion
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How the fuck do you save all the soldiers in griffin's bane? There's always one fucking asshole who runs off as fast as he can to get stabbed by a skeleton on the stairs.
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>>163159196
By not letting it fly off to the tower.
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>>163159196
Wakestones.
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>>163159196
actually, the only ones who "count" for saving all the soldiers are th ones with cuscenes
> the guy who gets offed by the griffin - wakestone him
> sir cecile or whatever, you just have to distract the griffin so it attacks you instead of him
> sir "i wished for a more heroic death" - wakestone

the 4 guys who are fighting skellies in bluemoon tower don't count
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>>163159839
fuck, wish I read this before going through all that shit

I ended up saving the suicidal spook fighters by literally picking them up and throwing them back down the stairs
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insta cast spells with no stamina usage should not be this fun
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Just saw this spooky motherfucker skulking around outside the pawn guild and nearly had a heart attack
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>>163160579
>I ended up saving the suicidal spook fighters by literally picking them up and throwing them back down the stairs

That sounds as fun as heroic.

>>163161375
Freaking nice.
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/ddg/ trophy cutscenes: [YouTube] /vg/ League 7 - /ddg/ Trophy Cutscenes (embed)
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>>163161753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcZDnMptVhE
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>early discipline ring run in bbl
>gargoyle knocks me off FIVE fucking times in a row
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>>163161856
The giant Grigori head will never get old.
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Anyone have a level 1-20 pawn and want tons of rift crystals?
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>>163156586
Ah, I guess he wasn't completely clean. I guess I must have accidentally edited his stamina because it was off by a bit. Works now thankfully.
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>>163159839
>the guy who gets offed by the griffin
He doesn't count.
>sir cecile or whatever, you just have to distract the griffin so it attacks you instead of him
Right.
>sir "i wished for a more heroic death" - wakestone
He dies on the top of the gates so you can't reach him. You'll need to stagger the griffin with spells or blast arrows before it kills him.
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>tfw no beastmaster vocation
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>>163166062
>you will never hunt with a pack of wolves
>you will never mount a griffin
>you will never pet a chimera
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>>163166062
>no barehanded monk vocation
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>>163162012
>do the run 5 times on one character (4x ring + trophy jacket)
>dll hook them in on every character afterwards
It's suffering
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[Aid]
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I would sell my boypussy into 90 years of sexual slavery just to make Dragon's Dogma 2 a reality.
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>>163169695
I wouldn't go that far but I too want DD2.
>6 skill warrior
>random weather scenarios inc snow and rain
>levelling up system isn't completely fucking borked
>vocations from DDO brought in
>online coop
>a gorillion new weapons and armours for fashion
>Barroch makes a cameo appearance
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>>163167161
Dll hook is just cheat engine for dummies, right?
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>>163169783
Dynamic weather and dynamic spawns pls

Also w3 signpost fast travel rather than portcrystals
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Why is DD so comfy?
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Anon from yesterday who asked about online features on pirated copies. Just repurchased DD. First copy id bought on PS3 about 18 months ago and played it for about an hour before getting a bit frustrated at how janky, stuttery and unresponsive it was.
Which is a shame since I've really wanted to enjoy this game.

Buy PC port and plug the computer into my TV

>4K60fps

Holy shitting fuck. I know I shouldnt be surprised, night and day difference and all that, but it's absolutely glorious. Responsive as shit and smooth as butter.

I dug this up just to remind myself what the console version was like.

https://youtu.be/fXH-VbQtuos
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>>163169856
basically yeah
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>>163169783
I liked port crystals

But yeah, dynamic weather and spawns sounds nice

But really just more to explore with lots of postgame content would be grand

>infinite tower comes back
>its the dd equivalent of a chalice dungeon
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can any of these cheat things modify affinity after a character leaves?
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>>163170343
>60fps

Eh, the problem is that the lighting is beyond terrible, to make it decent to you need an ENB which halves the fps.
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>>163171125
All things considered though, it's an oldish game. It's never going to look 10/10 so I'm not too worried. Playing on a large TV at couch distance is pretty comfy.

That being said, I still plan to look into texture packs and enb mods at some point though if they run okay.
I have a GTX 970.
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>>163171075
I think?
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>>163170069
>tfw chilling in cassardis and realizing there will never ever be a sequel
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>one of my pawns got stuck on a rock and died during first part of Grigori fight
>it's still crying out for my help when I'm past the bridge stuff

Why won't it die already, jesus.
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>>163171425
>It's never going to look 10/10

I don't mean "is beyond terrible" as "it doesn't look good" (I don't care about that that much as well), I meant it as playing with that terrible lighting can be a really annoying experience.

>I have a GTX 970

I have a GTX950m, hope the ENB won't kill your fps as it does with mine.
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>>163171745
Yeah thats true enough. What enb would you recommend? Is there consensus on a good profile or just personal preference?

>I have a GTX950m, hope the ENB won't kill your fps as it does with mine.

Hopefully. Quite a big gap of performance between those two GPU's. It'll be the 4k that kills it if the fps tanks. 4x more pixels to push is hard work.
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give me a challenge run
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>>163174740

see

>>163117929
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How do you make it downsamplw 4k to your monitor size?

Edit some ini, i assume?
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How do I into Everfall?

Also when should I go to BBI? Should I complete (can you complete it?) Everfall first or something?
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>>163175720
Do every everfall chamber once then go straight to bbl
Try and dragobforge your grigori weapon

Have fun at the chamber of fate
Lament is the UR dragon
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>>163175720
You have to collect 20 wakestones to finish the game.
You can beat the game and go to BBI in NG+.
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>>163141775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcZDnMptVhE

One gift from one of the guys, the team celebrating the win of the tournament.

For the logo, I put the precedent version of this one basically on the page.
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who else throws their hired pawns off cliffs
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>>163141775
>Not sure which one is better.

The one with slightly bigger star.
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>>163176523
sometimes i jump from ledge to ledge in the everfall and throw princess pawns down into the chasm

I know it doesn't do anything but it makes me feel better
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What the hell is a Dangan.
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Did I succeed with the wizard duo looks?
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>>163178854
Bullet IIRC
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>>163179159
Yeah, especially the one on the left.
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>>163179328
I'm thinking about switching him to green, the more I look at the blue robes the less I like them.
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>>163179561
I meant the red one, I don't find the other one bad but it's not great either.
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>>163179189
Yes, dangan is moonspeak for bullet.
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>>163179702
Was talking about the right one for the change, got mixed up a bit there.
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Much better
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Anyone need lvl106 Sorc? She's Util/Chall
Pretty OP though with goldforged everything.
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>>163181253
>wearing lv3 armors ever
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>>163180850
That's pretty sick, really nailed the 'old Arisen and younger Pawn' look.
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>uninstalled DD and cleaned my PC in and out wiht the vague hope of recovering my Save
>It still says failed to save
For my life, I don't understand how the save mechanic works in this game, how can I load a game but not save afterwards? how?
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>>163180850
>It's a us!
>A Mario an a Luigi!
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>>163183109
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>>163182994
It may seem stupid, the only thing I'm thinking of is Administrator's right (run DDDA as admin or see if there are writing restrictions).
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>>163183275
Yeah I tried the admin thing and only the folder is read only, the save file is normal
I just can't wrap my head around how this saving system works
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>someone sends my pawn back with a lvl 3 BB weapon when I'm not even finished the main game yet
noice
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OxxlTgvydA
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>>163185307
don't use it senpai

for maingame, it's the equivalent of setting all your stats to 9999
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>>163190013
When I say 'haven't finished' I mean "Am cleaning up the last one or two unfinished sidequests before fighting Grigs". This isn't my first save file, I know what using those weapons in main game is like. There's no gaurantee it'll purify into anything I'll be able to use, anyway.
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What was the post-game vocation farming method again? Hire two pawns with high miasma then just afk on the cathedral wall was the best method, right? Or has it changed since I last played.
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Does Mason leave the game together with Quina when you do A Parting Gift? I can't find him at the Abbey.
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>>163185307
enjoy easy mode i guess
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>>163191020
yeah
comesion works fine too
dont forget the discipline ring and a blessed flower assuming you duped one

>>163191570
i assume so, considering the dialogue
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>>163191950
Yeah I'm not sure on the dialogue because it kinda skirts the line between him legitimately saying he'll take her there and him bragging to you about how he's gonna fuck the shit out of her when you're not looking.
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Isn't she pretty? Going function over form until I got the full Hellfire set. Will probably have her show her face then.

That said, I need lv3 armors. Feel free to hire her.
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Grigori did nothing wrong
>>
AUGHT
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I want Dragons Dogma 2!
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>>163198482
We all do anon
It'll never happen
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KILLED THE FAGGOT GRIFFIN THAT ATTACKS THE CARTS OUTSIDE THE CITY
WEW lad

didn't even think you could kill this one
i'm still doing wyrm hunt quests, will griffins bane proceed normally?
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>>163200323
>i'm still doing wyrm hunt quests, will griffins bane proceed normally?

I'm wondering the same. Maybe there are more bully griffins.
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Aside from warrior for clout and sorc for the magick resist augment are there any other vocations I should level up on my pawn in terms of useful augments?
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>>163201669
depends what your pawn is
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>>163200931
they spawn randomly around gran soryn
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>looking for a sorc pawn in the right
>>Grand Ingle
>>High Comestion
>>High Bolide
>>Fire Affinity
how much fucking fire damage does this guy think people need?
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>>163201829
I forgot to say, woops. Fighter.
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pretty sure all the guards died to goblins lol

>didn't have the gloves of might quest
JUST
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>>163202428
what's a good level do some griffon hunting?
i feel like deleveling myself and searching for some
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>>163202246
Literally nothing wrong with that setup if it's base game
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>>163203694
I was 25
But i cheated and used periapts because i was scared it would fly off.
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>>163203907
ah well, i'll give that level a try anyways
i wanna take a break from bbi runs
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So is there literally any point in going below M weight class on a character?
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>Tfw find a really useful pawn
>Be a dumbass and kill it 3 times
s-sorry
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Are there any scan for DD's artbook?
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So, I managed to gather 20 wakestones in Everfall (Fuck the room with a lich, a chimera, a gorechimera and several hellhounds)

Is there anything I should do before turning them in?
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>>163208382
If I understood it correctly, you can use it to revive an npc that dies during an escort quest.
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>>163205069
I would just consider size being a minor way of changing your difficulty. All of the small character benefits are trash compared to big. The difference shouldn't be enough to influence you though so just worry about aesthetics. Unless you're really obsessed with being able to carry a ton, in which case you'll be playing as a giant fat blob.

>>163208382
Do any and all quests you care about finishing. That's how you go into newgame+.
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>>163208595
I understand how the wakestones work and how to use them, I'm wondering if there's anything I should do in the Everfall before I turn them in.
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>>163208859
It's worth doing each chamber once just because there are a lot of good fights in there, and the combat is the main reason most people play this game. There are 2 shopkeepers in there who sell the best weapons you can get before going to bbi, but those aren't a big deal if you're still playing the class you got the dragon weapon for. You don't have to worry about losing access to the ur-dragon since a portal to it is placed on the beach of cassardis in newgame+.
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The Everfall was really fun
i just wish i wasn't so dam overleveled when i finally got to it
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Abandon all delusions of posts.
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What's the best level to start BBI at? I just started NG+ at 50 but I don't feel like I'm high enough to start it yet.
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>>163214943
Unimportant. Gear is what matters. If you're in newgame+ you have a dragon weapon and that is plenty.
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>>163215141
Oh, alright.

Thanks Anon.
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Is the effect of damping even notable?
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>>163216254
what
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>>163217543
Damping, the strider's augment.
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>>163216254
that's the arrow recoil augment, right?
never ever had a need for it so i don't think so
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>>163217695
>that's the arrow recoil augment, right?

Yep.
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Does anyone else here dig the shit out of the soundtrack in this game?

>that atmosphere when fighting Daimon for the first time and Coils of Light plays in the background

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcoLNTG1tTo
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>>163217937
Honestly this game has one of my favourite soundtracks out of any game I own. Even the small things, I still love the little ~15 second bits that play when you got outside during day or night, and the theme's for when you start beating a monster, even after hearing them so many times I don't tire of them.
Coils of light is awesome though.
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>>163219152
eng or jp
important question
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>>163219482
Both
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>>163219482
Both are good but I prefer being able to understand the lyrics as they're sang.
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So when a (still living) Drake drops a Great Dragon Alula during the fight, that means I broke his wing, right?

So how come he just casually starts flying a minute later? Does the wing regenerate? If so can you break it again? How can I tell, does it drop again?
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>>163220547
It's just the claws on his wing. He won't fly as much though or for as long

It's basically has the same breaks as a Rathalos except for its tail, and its body which varies on drake type
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>>163220845
pretty neat mechanic
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i feel like playing mage. just sitting back and helping out my pawn's do the work
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>>163225605
It sounds nice until your ranger pawns keep using their daggers and not shooting the metal golem disks, or sorc pawns buffing all the time

And not cutting saurian tails

And relighting pyre Saurians

And refusing to venture more than 5 feet from you
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What would you guys normally run on a warrior pawn? I'm thinking corona/whirlwind/exodus with util/mitigator/scather, but in the end I keep changing him back to fighter because they're just so much more useful. Direwolf veil is too cool to pass up though.
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>>163227708
Lunge, Exodus and Corona probably
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this pawn learned about Daimon three times in a row. back to back. never seen that shit happen
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>>163229008
>nerodamus
is that the afro sorc?

is finding the same pawn super common?
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fug

>>163229652
yea it is
dunno, i rented him like a week or two ago and stuff came up so i couldn't play. got time now so i'm finishing these RC runs i promised
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>immediately goes into synchro after being revived
>free double bolide
love it.
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>>163202246
All of it
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high level strat: stick to the edge
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>>163231904
>It's bolide bro

Oh hey, yeah thanks for the hire.

Do you just like Bolide, or is it notably better than the other similar tier spells for you? My experience with it was kinda spotty, but then Fulmination can be spotty too... maybe I'll run Bolide for a while.
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>TFW working through BBI 2.0 as a L43 Warrior with a GF Bitter End

Gee whiz, I found a new challenge playthrough. I call it "Asthma Mode".
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>>163232930
np, really sorry about being late as fuck with those RC. did one run and immediately rehired him so i can get you more RC

bolide is a real amazing spell. hits hard and homes in on the opponent or at least half of them do. a must have. fulmination is another must have spell, it absolutely shreds life off elder ogres, garms, and other tough monsters.
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>>163233892
Yeah, sometimes Nero pops Fulmination when there's literally nothing to reach or other inopportune moments... but man I'm really glad for it when I need it.

I've got other things that I can juggle though, could probably swap out Comestion for it and maybe replace Gicel with a mid-tier spell. Or just get over Lassitude, but man dat torpor when it hits.
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Don't know what to model my Arisen and Pawn after for my next playthrough. Any ideas? Both will be female.
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>>163234137
yea the harder hitting spells take a really long time to cast, but damned if they're not worth it.
it really sucks when they're used on minor enemies, but that's why i like having sorcs with Scather inclination >but scather promotes climbing!
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>>163234940
I don't like scather sorc because they release the condemned gore cyclopes before I'm ready.
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Normally I don't upgrade my pawn's nuke spells when I make them sorcerer since they rarely ever get to cast them, but if I'm going sorc as well is it worth upgrade shit like Bolide and Fulmination for the dual casting?
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>>163235032
stay a bit further than usual
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>>163235262
I don't think bolide and fulmination are good enough unless upgraded. Gicel is still quite good without being upgraded so I always keep it regular on my pawn so it casts faster, even if I'm playing sorcerer.
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>>163235443
Yep, I have a bad habit of upgrading stuff (might go back and downgrade some stuff, now that I have dll hooks) but I agree a regular Glicel is solid.

I'll see how it goes with dropping Comestion, I tend to like it as a shorter-ish cast spell that still packs a wallop. Maybe regular Glicel can take its place, but I know for sure Brontide won't cut it... maybe Frigor can do the trick if Glicel is still too slow.
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>>163235950
Comestion and gicel are the 2 I never upgrade on my pawns. I've tried going without upgrading seism too, but I have a hard time deciding if it's good enough like that since it's so rarely cast. I also don't teach them magick agent because they love to waste time charging it up and releasing but almost never hit anything with it. That time would be better spent on a focused bolt or a real spell or even a regular attack.
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>>163236884
Agreed on Agent for sure, High Comestion usually whips out quick enough for my tastes anyhow, and with Seism I find even the base skill is so long you may as well go for the gusto and get the High version.

Shame I can't find a setting in dll hooks for the weapon talents like Focused Agent, it's not usually a problem but I'd rather be rid of it.
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>Get really tired of playing dagger classes
>Try sword + bow assassin
>Powdered barrage

Truly an underrated skill.
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>>163233881
Warrior is hella fun in bbi

jumping around dunking enemies all day with your jump attacks and all the iframes you can spam with exodus
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>>163235950
brontide is a real fun spell to mess around with
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>>163238470
Sure is, but man that staminan drain when below 51 with a L3 weapon is rough. Think I'll just farm stones and levels in the Everfall with a lower level weapon for a bit. Was fun to give it a go though.
>>
I want to beat up my pawn
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>>163241369
That's what brine is for.
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>>163241369
Switch to a red class and grapple kick them.
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post em
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>>163238470
>double barbed nails + bull mask
knockdown 4 days
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>>163243947
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>>163243981
MESS WITH THE BULL YOU GET THE HORNS
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>>163244462
SLAM DUNK FROM DOWN TOWN
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desu buffing jump height with dll input should be an activity all reds partake in
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>>163244969
I've put nearly 100 hours into this game and never once thought about jumping while climbing to ascend faster, holy shit.
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>>163244969
That's sick. You pretty much have to do that too if you're playing as a magic archer and you run into one of these guys.
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>>163243947
Wearing the finest for m'lady.
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>>163245807
Your arisen almost looks like Joseph Gordon-Levitt
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>>163245939
I suppose so, which is funny because I was going a bit more for 'fugly leprechaun'.
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>>163244969
Did this yesterday in that very room on my MA for 10 minutes after my hired strider got petrified even though I gave him a curative.
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>>163245226
did you know that WARRIORS LITERALLY CANNOT BE STOPPED?
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>>163234438
Maeve and Clementine from Westworld.
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>>163247450
who would seriously pay 40k a day, just to fuck maeve?
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Is there a reason why I can't open any images or webms on 4chan anymore? Used to work fine, then it started 404'ing an ever increasing number of images I tried to open and now I can't open any without a 404 error.
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>>163247496
I would pay 40k a day just to fuck Clementine, but Maeve has that hot strong-willed attitude.
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>>163246484
That's cheating.
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>give my fighter pawn proficiency
>dragons maw all day erry day
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next pawn
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>>163252792
who da
who da fuk are you
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>>163252589
don't give it to a GG ranger
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>>163171981
Here's a comparison
http://imgur.com/a/X3xID

I use Wickfut Lite because among the ones I tried it's the one who subtracts less fps, but I like Real Life more.
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I am currently playing with my character almost at level 45, I have killed off my pawn to get the increase to xp since beating Strength in Numbers.
I would like to make him really good for potential hires however I read it was impossible to try and minmax a pawn after you reach a certain level since killing even spiders will jump them a huge number.
Is it possible to still do this, or should I not worry about minmaxing pawn stats?
Also is it possible for others to hire my pawn even if I don't travel with them?
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>>163259154
You shouldn't worry about minmaxing at all.
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>>163250631
Wish I knew what it was saying.
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Can you save/reload before the Daimon chests to change the contents, like with most other chests?
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>>163263091
yes
it's a short list of possibilities with lvl 3s being 75%
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>it's another "pawn jumps brines itself unprovoked" episode
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>>163264682
I know the loot list, that's why I asked. Thanks for confirming~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>>163262836
https://safebooru.donmai.us/posts/1192866
>I don't know what filenames are
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I've tried to get into Dragon's Dogma, at first I was blown away by how the world looked in motion, the grass that sways in the wind etc.
I got around to Gran Soren and explored the area a bit and then it hit me: the game world feels like it was designed as an mmo. There's just empty-feeling areas surrounded by the sea or an impassable cliff wall of a mountain. Then when I was looking for the witch in the woods it felt like the game was on rails. This is a real turn-off for me, does the design get better later on? Is this a game that takes some time to get into or should I just give up?
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>>163269416
it gets better, the bitter black isle expansion area is the peak. I wouldn't recommend doing it until post game though
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>>163266158
take it easy
point your camera away from the cliff and don't run
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>>163269583
Alright, I'll have to give it another go at some point, thanks.
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>>163269416
The game got utterly fucking gutted from what we could've got. It's still excellent though the general for a game is seldom an unbiased source of opinion about the game and worth giving the once over (if you have the time) to see if you like it.
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>>163270562
>The game got utterly fucking gutted from what we could've got
What we could've gotten would've required 10 years of dev time with completely dedicated devs.
Just be happy that when their ambitions fell under the scope of the project, we ended up with a pretty fucking good game.
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>>163270562
I just figured you guys know your stuff and would keep the discussion civil and on point, and indeed you didn't fail my expectations. Thanks for that and for the insight.
Have a nice evening folks.
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>>163271083
I am happy with what we got, but let a man dream, anon.
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I just shot down a wyvern from the sky and it fell in the sea.

Should it not die from that? Didn't get shit. Otherwise fuck.
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NANI?!
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>>163273514
fucking nuked
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>>163273514
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What shit should I do in post game before going on NG+ & BBI? I've already done the hydra that shows up in the shadowfort and gone through every everfall chamber at least once. The wiki lists the special drakes/etc. I'm just wondering if there's any smaller but still worthwhile changed spawns to check out before I wrap this up.
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>>163274396
don't bother with ng+
stay in postgame and just move to bbl

the majority of bbl quests that take place in grancys are postgame only
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all me.

bet you sorcerers are glad when you have a big strong warrior around to do all the heavy lifting, eh?
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>>163275461
For my next save I want to do either a quad warrior or a quad sorc (well, maybe 1 mage for heals). They both sound like they'd be fucking hilarious so I can't decide which.
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>Hire Ranger
>have to fight Golem for the first time with my useless fighter pawn, a mage and the ranger
>Ranger is wank
>check her shit
>Guardian is her only inclination
Fucks sake.

Truly the worst inclination

Had to high bolide the Golem to death.
Next time I'll just bring a grand bolide ring with me.

>>163273514
Out fucking skilled
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>>163275708
Quad Warrior sounds hilariously bad.

Quad Sorc is hilariously good if you can sync up the skills.
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>>163276265
a single warrior with knockdown gear can leave an elder ogre perpetually reeling and unable to do anything
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>Fight Beholder in the Everfall
>Start ripping n tearing
>Sorc drops Grand Bolide on it

"We're done here"
>He turns around and heads for the door

Shit, my pawn woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.

No fun allowed, goddamn.
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>>163276463
Presuming a pawn had the wherewithal to Warrior proper.

Spell sync just kind of overrides Sorc pawns, makes it much more reliable.
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>>163274571
I like having a fuckload of portcrystals though (plus I start hating the dingy post-game lighting after a few hours). I've played the game before but last time was a long while ago and IIRC I almost completely ignored everfall and totally skipped any post-game stuff in gransys.
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Just did the quest for NG+. Good shit.

I'm not okay with my pawn being me
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>>163276563
Grand Bolide still amazes me with the amount of damage it can deal if the meteors are on point. Seeing a gorechimera or the likes health bar going from half a bar and almost all dots to a quarter of a bar and no dots in the space of about 5 seconds never gets old.
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>>163276994
It's pretty nuts in the Everfall sofar. He just Bolided another room down. BBI really gives him a lot of trouble with it though, hard to get the cast off... wonder if he'll do okay in the Chamber of Rape, lol.
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>>163276994
>charging for 5 minutes just to kill a gorechimera
lmao
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>>163277264
>Charging for 10 min to enchant your pawns with lightning
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>>163277264
But that doesn't look as cool
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>>163277264
>brain splitter
What the hell were they thinking
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>>163278178
probably smoking the same thing they were when they let blast arrows work with tenfold spam

sorc nukes are balances imo because they take ages and you're left vulnerable
warrior arcs are incredibly underpowered considering they aren't ranged, as it's easier to be hit and harder to land
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>>163276676
Quadruple grand bolide thunder.
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>>163278178
>>163278495
>Holy focused bolt
Reliable
Effective
Zero drawbacks
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>>163278641
>zero drawbacks
Is being boring a drawback?
At least I get some entertainment from flipping around with brain splitter
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>>163278641
yeah, add that to the list of fucked up balancing

along with rusted bows (and rusted weapons in general)
topor is just way too good for bosses to be allowed
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>>163278761
>>163278885
It doesn't even feel unbalanced at first.

But then you slowly start using it more and more until it's the only ability you use.
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>>163278885
>>163279590
It's good enough that I run Lassitude on my Sorc.

I swear, if Lassitude were a Mage skill it'd be a top-tier move mandatory for erry Mage eer.
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>>163279871
Oh, and since I'm speaking of Mages and Lassitude...

Did y'all know that Grapnel stacks with Torpor? It's pretty funny stuff.
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> finally discover why periapts are so wonderful

god damn it, they are amazing

I once beat Daimon I on hard mode without a single fucking periapt. That was a fight that lasted for hours, and I was down to the wire

no more curatives
no more wakestones
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>>163280413
They're pretty good, yeah.

Eventually you don't really bother with them anymore except Daimon 2.0 and Death, but man oh man they really make the lower level BBI runs happen.

Did you stack them 4x?
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>>163279590
Doesn't help that pretty much everything is weak to holy
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>>163280564
YES

the fight went from grueling 2 hour marathon just to beat Daimon I to beating Daimon II in less than 5 minutes
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>>163278885
>tfw no weapons that cause curse
>tfw best debilitation in the game has one shitty MA spell
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I'm playing assassin, trying to find two augments I can drop to make room for awareness and vehemence. Right now I have:
>Sinew
>Arm-Strength
>Leg-Strength
>Clout
>Proficiency
>Bastion
I'm thinking the best likely candidates are proficiency and arm-strength but I'm not 100% sure.
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>want assassin rings
>pc is assassin, main pawn is yellow
>get MK and MA rings
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>>163282146
arm strength for sure
drop it and never look back
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>>163283363
it's all magic shield or magic bow rings, what the fuck?
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>>163282146
You don't need both leg strength and sinew together, definitely get rid of arm strength
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>>163283541
>>163283832
Alright, thanks m8's. All my climbing at this point is grab and jump anyway, and the things that aren't are the ones that spam shake moves near-constantly when you get on them anyway. I don't have that one BBI augment yet.
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>>163284018
if your big into climbing adhesion + gloves of might are a must
opportunism gets you big damage so it's a real good one to have
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>tfw you only have 2 pieces of lv3 armor, but you still purify a double.

Anyone want to trade lv3 armors? I also have a lv3 weapon up for trade.
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Why do metal golem discs have to be so tanky?

Waiting for a ranger pawn to snipe it is painful.
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>>163284812
I thought golems were bad on my sorc run until I went back to my assassin and rediscovered the joy of wraiths and living armor
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Left or right?
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>>163285448
r
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>>163285448
left
eagle head feels out place next to scales
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>>163285448
Left for sure.
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>>163285268
>I thought golems were bad on my sorc
Just exequy the shit out of them.
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>>163289919
Takes too long at low level.
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>>163245128
Just putzed with it a bit on my Warrior, and I agree.

Some kind of 'super jump' ability should've heen baseline for Reds like Double Jump on Yellow or Levitate on Blue.

It also feels great doing a flying jump heavy attack.
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Does Exequy get better with an increased Magic Attack?
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>>163291954
nope
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>>163291954
>>163292526
You're thinking what I'm thinking, right?

Support Sorc
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>Finish game
>Times Main Pawn Gained Knowledge: 1
por que? I'm guessing this is because it's a new save but I hadn't slept at the inn before saving over the old save, that pretty much lets you chain pawn knowledge across save files if I remember right? (as long as someone has rented the pawn, at least.)
also
>Quina is my beloved for all the shit with Grigs
>Mads is the one on the beach scene after I kys
Since the thread is pretty slow I might as well ask for theories plus it's been like a year since I last did the ending. What actually happens during the ending? Does your pawn simply take over your body, inheriting your will and thus inheriting the role of seneschal in kind? Or is there more complex nip magic at work?
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Finally gave a return on Venus and Abel, been hanging onto them for a good long while so it should be a nice haul for them.

Found that the alternate xp tables adds an odd element to play. Since I don't want to have the "level on hire" bug to happen, I try to only save right after gaining a level. In practice that means before I want to save, I go grind some BBI... hence why I ended up holding the pawns for so long since I wanted to get to post-game with them but kept grinding BBI to 'earn' a save.

Was lots of fun though, and the pawns were pretty solid. Abel makes a good offensive mage with his skill setup, did pretty good with a stronger staff versus the Legion's. Venus was really strong with the Dragon's Maw spam, she did well stocked on mushrooms though she was a little lax on the blocking.

Would hire again, and recommend to others.
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>>163293798
I like to think there are two different timelines:

Timeline 1: the world is saved, the cycle is broken, you are dead and your pawn cucks you.

Timeline 2 NG+: you are sent to the beginning of the story because fuck you for breaking the cycle. It's like a Groundhog Day but eventually youl'll give up and become a seneschal.
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>>163296452
>little lax on the blocking
Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to fix that short of her learning in other worlds since I play assassin on this save with a usual setup of a hired mage and sorc which means there's no blocking examples to pick up.
inb4 "le pawn training meme"
Good to hear she's passable though. I've since reached post-game and done some vocation farming so she should have clout and some other changes now. Swapped out the upgraded shield summons for the second form of shield bash (another anon recommended that on fighter pawns paired with the strength reducing shield to make big guys a little less lethal. don't have the shield yet but I hope to pick it up in the future, in the meantime hopefully it's still reasonably useful for guard breaking) since I wasn't really noticing any particularly massive aggro draw, so we'll see how that works out. Hopefully it might make her shield more or something too. Thanks for hiring though, I just started an NG+ cycle so I'll see the return in a little while.
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>>163297215
The second makes more sense to me, at least. There HAVE to have been people before you with the will strong enough to ascend to the role but who realised that they might be able to free the world from eternal renewal (or just got sick of it), thus godsbaning themselves just like you. It might be in that case there's a power managing even the endless amounts of worlds, it could be endless cycles all the way down, who knows, but that power might simply return you to the beginning of the journey. It has infinite time to make you do it again and again, it could be exactly like you say and it's simply waiting on those stubborn ones to eventually give up and manage their world until they burn out rather than kill themselves.
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>>163297249
The only thing she actually needs is BBI bestiary. I am still pre-Grigori, but she is doing pretty great. Attacking, perfect blocks, everything.
I'll send her back in a couple of days.
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>>163297965
I haven't touched BBI on this save yet, so yeah. I'm planning to go there right after I get to the encampment on this NG+ though.
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>>163297249
She ain't bad at blocking, mind you, just sometimes her block slips. That may be because of having shield skills, but frankly I think as she levels it'll become a non-issue. Gotta take into account, I'm walking into BBI 2.0 with her, a missed block can be a one-shot but as she levels she'll be able to take the occasional hit.

>>163297965
>>163298295
Quite a bit of BBI knowledge should get rounded out from my game. I didn't deliberately set out to gift knowledge, but we managed up through Hella Pope in 2.0 so she definitely got a chunk.
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>>163298930
>returns my pawn with armour that matches colours better but I was too stingy to use gold on myself
noice m8
I've been waiting on something more fitting for a fighter than the circlet as well.

Also, I don't know the science ins and outs of how pawn knowledge works, but it could be because BBI things are still "an unfimiliar foe" for her, since if I'm right in remembering the pawn knowledge carry-over 'bug' she should have all the knowledge that the pawn from my old save did (where I did most of BBI but never beat Daimon 2.0), and the return there didn't have anything listed for "knowledge gained" which sorta confirms my suspicions. Who knows, hopefully her performance against BBI enemies will improve once I've been there myself.
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>>163282146
>to make room for awareness
Why would you care about this as the player? Almost all magic is incredibly easy to dodge.
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>>163302081
Might as well have it if I can cut out something I'm not really needing. At the very least it can be first on the list to be dropped when I get a BBI augment I want to use.
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who Sorcerer here?
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>>163304437
thicc
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ded
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>>163304437
>pink hair
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is there a way to speed up animations?
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>>163314684
Gale Harness.
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>want to fashion the shit out of my pawn
>queen's clothing is ridiculously good
so uh, how important are armour stats
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>>163316537
right, i guess,
i'm thinking with a mod or something like it.
i want to go fighter, pop a liquid vim, and spam dragon's maw
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Grand Fulmination or Holy Pact on main pawn?...
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>>163317871
>A few early defense points
>Your pawn doesn't get brined

Pick one.
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>>163317871
you can and should totally ignore the spoiled baby costume
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>>163317871
Queen set is quickly outmatched by gear with more resists.
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>>163318680
>>163318691
o-okay
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>>163319412
you'll have a lot more fun if you play fashions dogma anyways
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>>163319412
They're right, unfortunately for your fashion dreams. The set is the sign of incurable shitteritis and I'd dare to say most who've been playing for a while won't even inspect pawns wearing it. I know I don't, they just get right clicked straight back into the void before they've even stopped walking.
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Does anyone even care about urdy anymore? Is it even worth anouncing when grace goes out? I remember right after the PC release when the thread would become filled with "GRACE" every time.
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>>163320043
>>163320119
I'm just worried my squishy mage pawn will get gibbed, really.
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>>163320315
Not really, but there is the forum on Steam just for Urdy and they also link to a tracker.

I might have to hit him soonish, I've run out of Ascalons to hand out.
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>>163318581
fulmination
your wielding a mage weapon, put it on yourself instead
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>>163320315
i kinda still care about it
just can't be assed to drop what i'm doing to go fight him desu
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>>163321525
Oh, forgot to add that I've been playing assassin... I do use the shield holy enchant though when I play MK.

But yeah, I think fulmination is a better choice, it just nukes stuff.
>>
I'LL MIRROR YOUR SPELL
has a more beautiful phrase ever been spoken?
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>>163320338
Mage pawns tend to not end up the focus of most attacks anyways. Everyone knows mages/sorcs tend to have less defense anyway, and pawns are dumb as fuck, people aren't going to give your pawn all 1 stars because they had to res it once.
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likelihood of a DDO localization?

Likelihood a petition starts?
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>>163325494
>likelihood of a DDO localization?
For the Kuril Islands maybe, lol.
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>>163325494
You did see the stuff like last thread about the non-JP witchunts in these games, right? When they talk about """trying""" or """thinking""" about bringing these games to the west that's all it is, talk, meant to appease the part of their fandom asking about it, none of it will ever happen because they don't want the filthy gaijin playing they're glorious nip games.
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>>163326054
(((They)))) should "try" to "think" about it harder
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>>163326353
"They" will get right on "that", just for the "filthy" "gaijin" "scum".
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>>163325494
About the same as DD2 getting announced
Or HL EP3 getting announced
Or Bloodborne getting released on PC
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HOLY SHIT DD2 ANNOUNCED
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>>163327661
>JP release only
>Romanji characters cause instaban
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>>163327714
>ガイジ
どらふぉんずどぐま純粋による
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Dragons Centipede...
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>>163329120
Does it look good enough?
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>>163327714
That wouldn't work because a lot of JP players use english for character names.
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>>163329297
looks cute
let's see the face
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>>163329297
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>>163329120
lash>>>>>arc
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>>163330234
Gonna have to zoom in...Fucking hate the tools for capping in this game. GIVE ME FREECAM GODDAMNIT!!
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took on the drake a bit early and got crimson teeth dragonforged.

is that enough to go straight to bbl now?
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>>163331051
looks too small
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>>163330938
Early game man..Early game.
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>>163331069
Good luck killing the bosses
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>>163331069
Yes and no.

It'll help, but frankly you may still be running from chest to chest and hoarding throwblasts.

>>163331128
That's fair. Though to correct that other Anon, once you get the strength for it:

>Arc<Lash<LUNGE
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>>163329120
rare breed of snake dog
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Mystic Knight rank 5 and I'm sick of it
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>>163332686
Just hold out until 9 and get abyssal anguish
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>>163332758
>>163332686
This.

Unfortunately, if you want to do the fun melee MK build you have to hold out for a bit.

In the meantime, amuse yourself with cannons and Holy Counter.
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>What do you feel when you shoot a guard?
>...recoil
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On a side note, swinging enemies with implicate would have been neat
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>>163332853
>Playing MK for the first time in a few months
>Wonder why I can't get perfect blocks
>complete the game and remember that you have to get the core skill first
No holycounter really makes everything less fun
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>>163332686
>>163332758
>>163332853
I've done a playthrough as every vocation except the hybrids. Was looking at either MK or Assassin next.

Will I want to kill myself if I do MK? Are there any easy ways to switch between staff/sword and sword/daggers/bow/shield on PC? Or does it all have to be menu based still?
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>>163333386
As far as I know there isn't any good way to quickly swap compared to consoles, but you'll rarely need a staff as MK outside of levitate.
Getting MK to rank 9 is not very fun, but your mileage may vary
Once you get to rank 9 it's probably one of the most fun classes you can play
>>
good night
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>>163333386
Still menu based, though if you want you can use AutoHotKey to setup a single button macro or use DLL Hooks to setup weapon sets.

That said, I've personally found little reason to hotswap weapons in combat. Staff MK is more of a pawn support build in my experience with the buffs and sleep spell while Sword 'Sin is better at single-target & climbing while Dagger does dagger things and Bow is generally superior.

MK can be fun, but it takes some learning. Proccing a Holy/Dark counter within a GMC is a whole lot of fun to setup, and if you grind out Abyssal Anguish then the raw melee build is pretty awesome... you don't have to just do basic combos at a cannon. The only downside is the buffing time, but if you put affinities to a Mage or Sorc then doing just Anguish isn't so bad.
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Not this general, not this day
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>>163333386
You'll want to kill the retard(s) in development who thought making MK stow the shield on their magic back velcro and just dopily hold their bare arm out between blocks was a good idea. That one flaw is so glaring that it pretty much ruins MK for me entirely.
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>>163333154
C'mon bruh, I know life is hard but take a break from the skooma.

At least put a shirt on man, you're an agent of the Empire for fucks sake.
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Who the hell is still killing the Ur-Dragon these days? Would've thought people would stop caring at this point
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>>163337965
A combination of fools in clown suits looking for easy DFs from grace, Urdy weapon farmers, and the rare autist using Urdy as a DPS dummy.
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>>163336712
There was a mod that makes the shield invisible. Makes it kind of cool in the, "I make my shield out of magick" way.
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>>163338062
>fools in clown suits looking for easy DFs from grace
Literally me
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>>163337965
>>163338062
Some guy on gamefaqs claims there is a group of hackers who use nothing but makers fingers to quick kill it at times most people wouldn't be available for it.
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>>163338517
Why are people so autistic with these sorts of things, goddamn, it's like those stories of people that grind in shitty MMOs despite there only being 10 players
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>>163338517
I highly doubt there's enough aughtists like that to make a difference. Maybe a few looking to climb the leaderboards, but the vast majority have the sense to realize that would be futile plus the few that bother probably don't account for the anti-cheat mechanism that discards an Urdy session if you exceed a certain damage threshold.

The rare players that would be troubled enough to care and understand they need to precisely calculate the damage they dish out would count in the single digits, if even that much.
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>TFW a riftslut mage running Inflection and Fire Affinity with the freebie gear deliberately returns your BBI ready Sorc with 3/3/3

Oh man, I haven't brined a bitch in a good long while. Enjoy the body bags with 0 RC.
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>>163338764
Supposedly damage from makers finger doesn't count for the damage limit. You can also check that site that tracks the ur dragon every now and then and notice some extreme damage spikes, so I think it's possible.
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>>163339030
Dunno still. PC Urdy seems to go quick in general compared to console, even accounting for generation difference. I remember 3-5 graces per hour in the release month for PC, shit's ridiculous.

Also Maker's only takes a single heart, so it'd take what? 20 goes on a single manifestation of Urdy? And there's something like three instances of online Urdy per gen, and the health loss just gets averaged out.

So even if Maker's didn't count towards the damage cap, it'd still be insufficient. Just DPSing to cap would be more effective.
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>>163339242
Maybe they're cheating to fire off huge amounts of fingers or something.

There's gotta be something to explain why PC urdy dies so fast compared to console.
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>>163340403
Personally, I think the PC version of Urdy just had a different execution.

The same anti-cheat methods from console have been observed on PC, and all of the 'explainations' I've heard fall flat when faced with knowledge of the mechanics. Plus early on I managed to hit rank 1 on Urdy kills with 9 despite it being Gen 30-something, and all I did was farm him legit while others were claiming all kinds of hacks.

I do know that he was buggy at times, and maybe that's part of the new implementation. But regardless I am willing to go out on a limb that the same theories floated back in Jan/Feb that I observed to be demonstrably false haven't gotten more true over the course of a year.
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>>163117929
This is retarded.
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What is the Dragon Slave of this game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1U9ESUBpmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2zls8EEPds

inb4 holy focused bolt.
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>>163337965
i always grab an abyssal set for a mage
then dragonforge it
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>>163317871
Many people would never hire a pawn wearing that eye cancer set.
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>>163317871
Wearing Queens set gets you blacklisted and your pawn brined on sight. Not even joking, Remove it, discard or sell it, never EVER think about using again. Do I make myself clear?
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>>163342378
Why exactly?

Because it's stuff that shitters wear because they see very good armour the first time they visit the inn?
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>>163342561
That, plus it looks like complete shit. It's a dead giveaway that the pawn is gonna have a Guardian inclination.
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>>163342838
This, I have never seen a good pawn with acceptable non-shitter inclinations dressed in that shitty outfit. Every single time they have at least two or more blacklist worthy offenses, like Guardian inclination or Inflection

It's an immediate identifier of a bad Arisen.
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>>163343117
Wait, what's wrong with Inflection?
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>http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Brine
>Even the Seneschal can be taken by the Brine in the deeper waters of Cassardis.

Brine-tan confirmed for the true God of DD universe.
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>>163343513
Doesn't work as intended, instead of halving damage received while casting it increases it by at least double
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>>163343713
Jesus.
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>look for pawns to hire at a low level
>endless princess dress pawns with guardian/nexus, often both
Wish there was a way to cull these
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>>163343883
gotta have those MLG pawns for early maingame, right?
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>that feel when your pawn comes back with all the obvious signs of having been forfeit twice in the same day
I'm not even mad at eternally being stuck at a 3* rating, it's more the feeling of them having mistreated my pawn badly that sucks.
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>>163344963
>Hiring bad pawns at any level
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>>163345897
>hiring pawns for anything but bbl
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>>163346002
>hiring pawns
nice try, shitter
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>>163346002
You need pawns to weigh the pressure plates in the Quarry. You want pawns to help see of Valmiro because you have to carry his shit. You want pawns to weigh down a Griffin.

Sometimes you just want some bitches to carry your shit.
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>At low level hire some mage pawn called Cindy.
>Just needed a heal bitch
>Never bother looking at her, she just heals
>At lvl 40 decide to check her shit
>high level gear, she still has viable stats
oh
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>>163346948
>Hire a pawn at level 30~
>has goldforged everything
Can't tell if people are editing their inventory or just autistic
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>>163346948
??
what do you mean she has high level gear with viable stats?
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>>163347040
Respecced is a possibility.
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>>163347040
Two accounts with family sharing.
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>>163347104
Really just gold and dragonforged shit.
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>>163346948
Oh, right Cindy, my first hired pawn, very hot riftslut.
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>haven't played DD in awhile
>start it up
>crashes
>validate files
>14 failed to validate
>save data now gone
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>>163348312
Does it you an error message?
Mine crashes a fair bit now, mostly on startup
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>>163348463
its working now it said it couldn't start bgm2 or something, validating fixed it. Just sad my saves gone. I didn't think validating would delete it so I didn't back it up.
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Exequy stacks with magick stat doesn't it?
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>>163349446
No, exequy instantly kills whatever is in its aoe when it casts so damage doesnt matter, cast time reduction is more important for it but I don't think you can get it down enough to where it makes enough of a difference to make exequy worthwhile
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>>163349995
> cast time reduction
That's what I meant.
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>>163350109
I don't think cast time reduction is affected by your magic afaik, only augments and wyrnking affect it

I might be wrong
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Finally rid of that Trophy Jacket.
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>>163351163
still look like ass tho

at least wear the adept mantle to match the hat
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can i marry Ophis and have a sham marriage where she thinks i'm a female?
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>>163349446
If it is affected by magick, it doesn't seem to be affected by different staves, nor does the wyrmking ring affect it
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Why are pawns on ballista so fucking autistic

I get into the shadow keep thing and climb up, I see a ballista but ignore it to kill some hobgoblins that were more important

I'm about to run over to it so that I can shoot the other ballista shooting at me, but a pawn takes over and starts shooting THE FUCKING CYCLOPS INSTEAD
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>>163352621
Never thought about it, I wonder how she reacts when she's living in your house and you have your regular gear on
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>purify armour 2 and 3 nearly all day
>all magick archer shit

WHERE IS MY FUCKING BRAINSPLITTER!!!!!!!!!
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>>163354871
if you purify 3 rings and don't get it, cheat it in

RNG was their only way of ending the duration of bbl which is barebones as an 'expansion'
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>>163354991

How do I cheat it in? I use xinput to get easy RC but never messed around with anything other than that.
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>>163355167
can't you use the dll hook mod thing?

it's like a CE cheat table
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>>163355398

Actually yeah I just did it, at least now I don't lose a ring slot. Wew.
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Noob here. How come sometimes if I equipt a piece of armor it will unequipt an item in the clothing slot? And vice versa. I don't understand this, I thought they were supposed to be independant of one another
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>>163347040
Could be respecced to a low level with dll hooks. Could be someone transferring gear with an alt account. Could be a fresh game from an experienced player, especially if they use the alt xp tables mod.

Personally I did the respec option after discovering that accidentally hitting the save hotkey at the title screen as you quit kills the save, and that I hadn't manually configured the save backup system. Before hand I had a fresh save without the xp tables and managed a good set of gear and was forging it by L40, throwblasts and periapts is life friend.
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>>163357515
>hitting the save hotkey at the title screen as you quit kills the save
That's stupid.
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>>163357515
What's the save hotkey, just in case I'm slapping my keyboard like a retard in the main menu?
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>>163359407

With dinput, the normal menu save is F5, a checkpoint save is F9.
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>>163359056
It's a pretty unique set of circumstances, I was testing an FPS display program at the title screen and I accidentally hit the save key just before I alt-F4d. Wasn't even worried because DLL Hooks was supposed to backup saves, then I found out there was a problem with its auto-setup and had never made a backup.

I thoroughly shot myself in the foot on that one.
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>killed gayzer
>no abyssal eye
doesn't respawn until post daimon
least i got twilight greaves in a chest though
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>>163359784

Yeah, I had to kill the fucking thing 4 times, and it dropped 2, pissed me right off.
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>>163359847
what's even worse is that some of barroch's inventory is locked until you complete the quest
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>>163359784
>kill gazer
>drops like 2
>instead of RC
I have tens of millions but I want/need more.
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What inclinations do I want on a fighter pawn? Scather/Challenger? The other way around?
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>>163360080
Scather+challenger/pioneer is best bet desu
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>>163360080
Utilitarian once it has 3 star knowledge on most things.
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>>163360353
util as primary or secondary though? Or tertiary?
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I have this Santa Claus pawn (who incidentally looks kind of like Billy Connoley also) and he keeps getting killed by Death.

He's the only close range guy on my team. Is there even a point to trying to fight him as a melee class?
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>>163360080
scather/ util
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>>163360080
It depends only on what you want to do, with scather as first you will have kill the long range enemies all by yourself, while the pawn will keep busy the stronger enemy (that means that he could climb right from the start, though).


>>163360139
Pioneer is absolutely shit, pawns aren't smart enough to know how to effectively start an attack. If anything I wish there were a comand to let them stay some meters behind you.
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>>163361041
Prim.

3 uti prim pawns + full bestiary knowledge is godly.
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>>163361629
fighting him melee isn't that hard
what's hard is not losing pawns
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>>163356398
When you go and equip something, it'll highlight the slot it goes in. The outfits (duchess dress etc) take up every single armor slot.
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>>163362823
Keeping that Util primary hough... such a pain.

On my Sorc it gets taken over by Challenger quick, and then eventually by Mitigator. I always keep it at least secondary, but sometimes I slouch with the primary.
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Is there any way to change the order in which I purify cursed items?

I have 2 cursed armors, the first one gives a double, the second one something I can use.

How do I purify the 2nd without purifying (wasting) the 1st?
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>>163363713
There is no way.

Think of it like a list, and you have to get everything on that list in order. So if what you want is X spots down the list, you have to purify X items from that list before you get it.

So in a way, no purify is a 'waste' since it at least advances a list.
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>>163363713
you can't.
it's a list and you HAVE to go through every single one until you get what your looking for.
you can, however, switch to another vocation and get an alternative you might want to use someday
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>>163364324
>>163364589

Then how can you ever get a double if there are still pieces you haven't seen yet?

I thought every purify result was set in stone (depending on vocation, for a total of 3 results).

I've seen the gloves and chestpiece of the Shadow set twice now, but no boots or helm yet.
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>trying to climb a gorecyclops
>every little footstep even when I'm on it's head shakes me like a bag in the wind and takes like a quarter of my stamina
guess I should probably start carrying liquid vim, huh?
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>>163365272
Or start a diet.
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>>163365272

Get adhesion senpai, you'll never get shaken no matter what.
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>>163340403
The Maker's Finger auto-kills a heart. The damage doesn't exactly register on your end, but the very next time you fight that urdy, you notice its missing a fuckhuge amount of HP.

I'm fairly certain that the game averages his HP depending on his hearts, as well as whatever damage you do. With that in mind, about three people with a sack of makers fingers can reduce urdys health to nothing in about three-five hours.
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>>163365452
I plan to, just that I've only just started BBI on this save so I thought I might as well tackle that one goreclops in the area where you get the void key.
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>>163365452
>just get this thing that is 100% RNG
yeah sure

cockatrice just did a similar thing to me, chained bucking me off for like a full 30 seconds until i ran outta mushrooms
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>>163364757
Lol... no no no.

The list isn't like just a simple list of one item each, there can be repeats. You could have to purify 8 repeats before getting to a new item, that happens.
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>gazer was easy
>think i might be able to do the rest up to daimon too

>only way i could kill the elminator was keep it topored for 5 minutes and wait for sorc nukes that didn't even do much because shitty staff
>no chance against cursed dragon
fug
only 1 pawn at lv40 was a mistake
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>>163366758
But then the whole thing about it being a list you have to go through in order makes no sense.

It's just random. There's a list of results, sure, but there's no order.
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>>163367557
exactly, its a list but its not 1-10
it could be 6481824676
its different for every single person as well
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>>163367905
Then the 2 people that replied to me are idiots. Thanks.
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>finally get my pawn rented
>5 rents in a day
>all but one are three stars and no comment
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>>163368351
A list doesn't have to be ordered with only unique items. Sorry you made assumptions and needed additional spoon-feeding.
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>>163368874
Lookie here.

>>163364324
>Think of it like a list, and you have to get everything on that list in order.

and

>>163364589
>it's a list and you HAVE to go through every single one

:)
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>>163368734
What level are you/your pawn? That'll start happening a lot more once people are using them for BBI as they get bootyblasted by Death, fall of stuff or just get left behind because they've gone down in an area the player judges too dangerous to try going back for them.
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>>163365272
Just spam holy focused bolt.
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>Warrior pawns
I don't know what I was expecting
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>>163370030
>know for a fact it's a mimic
>pawn refuses to open the chest

>any other chest my pawn will open it instantly
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>>163369812
But... neither of those refute themselves? If your list is 83492 you still need to get 8, 3 and 4 before getting 9, you do have to get through it in order, and get through every item, regardless of what items are actually in the list.
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>>163369812
And here's your order:

>4826255948297272844482723662533382988888888888872663333738838

Go read the FAQ for future spoon-feeding, sorry you can't parse between different uses of 'order' but the sticky has you covered.
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>>163370240
>I said "in order" but totally meant something else so lol xD

>>163370158
Yeah, sure, but saying you have to get through all of them in order can't be true if you can get doubles before having seen them all. A random pattern isn't 'in order'.
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>>163370531
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>>163370531
Sorry, I'm not a Certified Autist Handler so I'm afraid I must end this conversation due to my lack of qualification.

Good day.
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>>163370792
Thank you, you too!
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>>163370531
You've fucking lost me now, anon. But I'll try.
What defines the order? An order is just the way it's arranged, going through a list that's 543327 is still in order, hitting a duplicate doesn't cause you to somehow no longer be adhering to the order of the list. If you want to get to the 7 and the list progresses strictly in order you're still going to get a 5, a 4, TWO 3's and then a 2 before you get your 7.
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>>163370137
This will never not annoy me.
>pawns will actively run out ahead of you to open chests
>they do this for literally every chest in the game
>when it's a maneater they'll do it, even say the voice lines then just crowd around the chest starting at it
>it's luck of the draw whether it takes then 30 seconds or several minutes to bother opening it
at least it functions as a way to detect maneaters since I don't think there is any other way short of memorising where they are
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>>163369931
Ah, well it's 155, so I guess that explains it.
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How do I have fun as Warrior?
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>>163371071
I think the problem was that one anon claimed you had to get through every possible result before you get what you want.

At the end of the day, though, you're just going to have to purify every single item you get and hope you get lucky, so whatever.
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>>163371642
I find that if a pawn is going after a chest and is interrupted by combat then they won't open the chest after. Like that one chest by the water with a guaranteed mimic and the bats? Yeah, I run ahead to kill the bats before my pawns get there, then they open the chest.
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This doesn't feel very safe.
Post action.
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>>163371821
What are you doing?

Arc can be extremely satisfying to land, even if tedious to wind up. Moving around combat slo-mo dodging while readying an Arc can be intense.

On the end, big strength and/or an Iraklis can make for a good multi-hit build based on Lunge and basic attacks with Exodus as a dodge. Much more fast paced style then.

Also, a little thing, if you use dll hooks then setting your sprinting jump distance to 35+ makes for amazing flying heavy attacks.
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>>163372783
Speaking of unsafe.
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>>163371821
Mostly: Exodus for defense / conterattack, jumping heavy attack as main attack, Lunge is fun and looks silly as fuck. The funnest thing is just handling the huge and slow weapon, but, yeah, as gameplay it's a pretty limited vocation.
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>>163373268
>the pawn standing doing shit all in the background
pottery
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If anybody's interested in dragging a pawn around with them, I'd appreciate it if you made mine your shackle.
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>>163371821

Go Strider instead.

No just kidding. Warrior is tedious though.
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Did someone here test Crippling Arrow's effects? The wiki doesn't sound too sure about its effects.
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>>163374493
>I'd appreciate it if you made mine your shackle.
That's some Hallmark tier shit right there, I bet it'd be a big hit on Valentine's day.
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Is there a limited supply of moonbeam gems? I like exploring on my own so I'd prefer not asking which doors I should unlock, but I don't want to open one for explorations sake and then find out "uh oh, you only get one per NG cycle :^)"
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>>163370030

>maneater chest in first part of BBI where Gorecyclops is in pre-daimon
>Pawns jump behind the chest as one opens it
>both get knocked into the brine

I just...
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Just started playing this.

Is their any skybox improvement mod? Or inventory improvement mod? Not like I need them it'd just be nice. I've spent the first hour exploring the first town, am I autistic?
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>>163377214
I know there's ENB's, can't really help you beyond that since I'm not much of a graphicsfag myself. Also no, it's neat to look around. I spent quite a while there on my first playthrough as well, usually still do, it gives a nice moment of pause before launching into everything else, even after all this time. Everyone does things at their own pace, anyway. This game favours those who don't just try to bumrush their way through everything.
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So for increasing bestiary knowledge, you need to do certain actions and also kill a certain number of the enemy?
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>bullying the absolute fuck out of an eliminator with masterful kill
this shouldn't be allowed
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>>163378768

Yeah its fun exploring, killing seagulls and shit, finding thousands of gold just lying around too.

Anyone know about any eyepatches you can get? I made my character with an eyepatch in mind.
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>>163363367
This pretty much describes exactly what is wrong with the pawn "learning" and inclinations systems.

It's great for teaming up as two of the same vocation or similar vocations and making your pawn more effective by mimicing you, but the game itself emphasizes the importance/value of a diversified party and without a way to "lock" their settings it's an eternal clusterfuck of fighting the game mechanics to actually BE diverse.

>>163371821
Obliterate. Then Obliterate some more.


>>163374839
Without fighting Daimon? Finite, but you do get multiple.
If you can clear Daimon, and Daimon 2.0? Infinite even without NG+ since one of Daimon's loot chests always contains one. I say Daimon 2.0 since after beating Daimon the first time all of BBI switches to Round 2 settings and he'll always have his second form until you reset all of BBI with a NG+.
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>>163379034
there's one that covers the right eye, but it's expensive for early game
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>>163379034
The Black Cat shop in Gran Soren.
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>>163379034
Gran Soren, Black Cat vendor/duper down in the Venery section of town, get yourself a Dragonseye Band. Fairly expensive (~100k) and more's the pity about the mediocre stats, but that's the cost of not wearing a full helmet I guess.
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>>163379612
it would be great if we had a way to say "You know enough, you don't need to learn from what I'm doing anymore." and then they'd only gain knowledge, their inclinations remaining locked. As it is I usually settle for using the autism-tier elixir formula in the science doc, it's pretty much the closest thing we'll get to locking inclinations without actually locking the values through cheat engine or something.
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Not sure yet if there's something I'm not getting about this game yet. Got to Gran Soren, changed vocation to warrior, I bought the two hander in the shop and upgraded it to 1 star. Kept playing till level 18 and everything in the area is still a sponge that takes forever to kill. Is the game supposed to be this grindy or have I not done something?
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>>163380391
early game is suffering, but it picks up
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>>163379948
I actually tried said autism-tier elixir blender exactly as described and it still didn't lock the inclinations. Now I just check my pawn's inclinations every few hours and top off with secondary/primary elixirs to be sure.

It's particularly annoying since some of the game's own limitations, even on PC, push you into behavior that can encourage undesirable inclinations like Acquisitor; since loot, even valuable boss loot, is subject to evaporating into thin air particularly in the chaos of busy BBI rooms, you basically have to drop what you're doing and grab it immediately or forfeit about 50% of the entire reason you're killing anything in the first place.
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>>163380590
Oh yeah don't get me wrong, that formula is a good as we're going to get, it doesn't actually lock them. It'll keep them for a good long time right enough, but like you said the best method is still just occasionally checking them for changes. Acquisitor going up every fucking time you pick something up is a little stupid, right enough.
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>>163380590
Oh wow. I'd try to steal her heart, too.
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What's your custom battle music /ddg/?
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>>163381820
>>
>In BBI for the first time
>In the bloodless stockade
>Find hole in wall
>"Hey, this could be neat"
>Fall into a pitch black sewer
>"Well that could have gone be-"
>Death shows up
And that is the story of how my pawns got brutally murdered in their sleep.
Luckily I managed to fight it away by myself, but that was quite the surprise.
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>>163378919
yep
pretty simple huh
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>>163380590
>>163381006
DLL Hooks does allow you to more precisely monitor your inclinations. I suppose you could edit them directly there too, but I usually just take a peek after a play session or while feeding elixirs.

It's a pretty good way to see what you have to look out for, if Scather is creeping up on your Sorc or what not.

But yeah, a "lock" option would be pretty swell.
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>>163384089
>scather is bad for sorc
i want this meme to end
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>>163382946
Changing makeup color should change the freckles, right? Maybe make them a little bit lighter, browner.

Besides that, my heart dude.
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>>163382636
>vs Daimon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uirF6FDKxSU
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So, starting a new game and going for the magical classes - Mage obviously has the worst stat growths post 10 so I'll switch off that as soon as I can, but should I still take it 1-10 or take one of the others instead?

And after that, pure Sorcerer? My first run was pure Assassin so I'm used to low defences.
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>>163387602
If you want to minmax then that's how you do it. Of course it isn't necessary but if you're playing as sorc anyways you may as well.
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>>163387860
Sweet, that solves that then. I will become the master of all magic.
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>>163387178
Freckles are a "scar" option, actually, not makeup. Thanks for the high praise though.
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Is there any reason why the apparently default image path "is.4chan.org/etcetcetc" refuses to fucking load images (clicking on any thumbnail returns a 404 or timeout loading error), but when I manually change it to "images.4chan.org/etcetcetc" in a new tab it loads the image just fine? Some way I can override and make it use image.4chan by default instead?
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Will scather pawns attack the condemned gorecyclops and free it?
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>walk into that one room with the double condemned goreclops and all the evil pawns
>two fucking garm spawn as well
asbolutely fucking not
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>>163390953
I think so. At least, that\s what my pawn tried to do while we were fighting another gorecyclops in the same room.
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>Daimon second form
FUUUUUUUUUCK
How the fuck did I ever beat this piece of shit, and more importantly how the fuck did they manage to make the first stage the best boss battle in the game and the second stage the absolute fucking worse. Going from one to the other, the whiplash is unreal.
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>>163390953
go near it enough and it will
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>>163378995
Masterful Kill is just fucking broken period, you barely need to time it since the parry frames last like a whole second

Also, what are the limits of shit you can use it on? Is it limited to humanoids only or can i PSSSH NOTHIN PERSONNEL doggos and big guys like cyclopes too?
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>>163398398
>parry frames last like a whole second
>he doesn't know.laughing whores.gif.webm

If you don't move or otherwise do anything after activating it you can sit there in active parry frames ready to counter a hit indefinitely. The counter itself works against basically any physical melee hit, from Goblin to Grigori. For smaller and/or humanoid enemies you counter by mounting and then slashing up and off, for bigger/nonhumanoid hits you counter by spiralling up with a twisting slash.
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>Every low level pawn with party hat
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>>163400815
they're ready to party
hire them all
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>>163399414
>his smile and optimism: gone
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>>163403945
hes seen some shit
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>figure Mercedes for the classic aloof female badass knight
>actually desperate to prove herself
>gets the shit kicked out of her
>utterly crestfallen
oh shit
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>>163381006
It cements it even more if you "lock" your secondary in the knowledge chair after applying aughtism seneschal mode.
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>>163406635
>no option to observe the duel properly but then challenge/apprehend Julien yourself afterward

He's right that the Arisen's only purpose is to find and cuntpunt Grigori for being such a jerk, but people are many things and Arisen is not the only thing the player is at this point in the game; letting him go or bringing him in may be the binary choice here but there's no reason it has to hinge specifically on whether or not you interfere with their duel.
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>>163382636
Been listening to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQsaPVW3vxY
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>>163382636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA9umJHAA-c
this shit gets me pretty hype for big battles
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>>163382636
When an enemy is toppled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeWbT4eSjmM
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>Urdy went into grace while I was sleeping again
Dammit
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>>163414458
>Get back home
>Grace just ended

Oh well, it's not like I had a clown suit ready anyhow.
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It's time to post dragons getting blown the fuck out
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The fuck happened here
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>>163415128
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>>163399414
Do you have to hold the button down to stay in stance? And the frames are basically infinite if you stay still?

Also didn't know it worked on non humanoids, will need to try that against cyclops/ogres
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>>163415220
Nah, you just press the button and as long as you don't move, any attack that hits you will be countered
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>>163415168
your pawn grapple-held it and it got frozen and glitched out

interesting
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>>163374493
I'll see if I can find you
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>assassin
>honor and treachery
>don't have any petrification healing items on me because whoops
>don't want to get close
>shotgun the cockatrice to death with blast arrows
how is this legal
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>>163418628
Blast arrows are for three things exactly:

>Daimon 2.0
>Death
>Lulz

Because yea, they really didn't think out the balance on that one.
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Anyone wanna hire this fucker? I don't really need the RC or anything but still.
Lvl 200 strider, Sahmed. Steam is illholdthemoff

If anyone has any ideas for curse resistant rings or underclothing please let me know. Biggest complaint I get with him
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>>163418545
Neat. She's 55 now, incidentally.
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>>163418876
found and hired
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>>163418876
oh dude, you gotta take off Inflection from augments. It's not going to matter since I'm just rerunning the main story, but Inflection is bugged and multiplies damage taken, not halves.
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>>163419963
I have half a mind to learn how to work that ARC tool or whatever and make a balance/fix patch. This game needs one, bad.
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>>163420476
That particular bug already has a mod to fix it. The problem is if you care about rentals you can expect most people aren't using any mods.
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>>163420660
I know there's an 'augmented augments' mod out there or some such, but I remember it came with some other tweaks I didn't care for... went a bit beyond the scope of unfucking things.

But you're right with the hires, Dogma community is a bit fractured between DDG and GameFAQs and Steam and Reddit. Best we could reasonably hope for with a 'fix patch' is shoving it in the sticky and making it standard for DDG hires, provided we manage enough rent sharing to make it worth the trouble.
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>Oh, Arisen, the duke wants to recognize your valiant efforts!
>He's so super impressed that he wants to send you to fucknowhereistan on a very important mission, far far away from Gran Soren!
Amazing.
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in your opinions what are the most fun/ least boring classes to play?

I'm on my first play through but this is how it seems.

TOP: Strider, Magic Archer

MIDDLE: Assassin, Warrior, Fighter

BOTTOM: Sorcerer, Ranger, Mystic Knight

SHIT: Mage
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>beat pope and drake at lv 46
>grow 4 levels because it's a party of just me and my pawn
nice

got some lv1 weapons too, can't upgrade them though because it costs a billion bucks and i'm not in postgame
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>>163421972
>Got the L1 weapon after Pope
That's a damn shame.
>>
>>163421957
All the classes can be good fun if you play them right
Not mage though, literally the worst
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>>163421957
>SHIT: Mage

hmmm

Is there anybody that's played exclusively through as a healslut for their pawns?
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>>163422804
Spell targeting for allies blows, from what I recall trying. Too frustrating to bother, especially when you consider that you're then depending on pawns to carry each fight.

Shit, it's hard enough getting them to open chests reliably!
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>>163422804
I've leveled as mage, up to ~130 some time ago.
All I can tell you is that you're basically dicerolling, hoping your pawn stops being retarded for a little bit to do it's thing while you grapnel the big bad. That's it. Well, and stacking Spellscreen so they don't get their shit pushed in. If regular Comestion wasn't such an amazingly good spell, I would have lost my mind.
>>
Fucking phantoms.

>Physical don't do shit
>They curse, already lowering your pitiful damage
>Zip around everywhere making your Sorc cancel casts to dodge
>Disappear after a decent hit, causing spell cancels and dragging out the fight

Living Armors are less obnoxious, at least you can tie them up by smacking their shield while a Sorc pawn does its thing.
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tfw all you get is arm pieces when purifying armor

ffs
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>>163423031
Why would you do that?
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>>163426564
Oh, this was when I still thought pawn training was a thing. Which means there was actually two mages :^)
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>>163427002
Christ
>>
'Tis but a flesh wound!
>>
>tfw you skill share
>tfw brain splitter on a magick archer
>tfw nothing can stop you
>>
>>163430684
>in an alternate DD universe, there are Magick Archers with Brain Splitter
>>
>>163431051

>tfw I am in the AU
>tfw DD2 is everything you imagined
>>
>>163430684
I do kisses, skull splitter and masterful kill as dagger skills

Wish I could fit gale harness on there too
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>>163431219
Why would you even want kisses?
Splitter is tons better

The only thing you cant split is a gorecyclops which dies easy to ninefold anyway
>>
>pawn came back with 3/3/3 again
Well, at least I'm getting hires
>>
>>163432689
all it means is your pawn is getting bodybagged
avoiding 3* is something only pawn sharing communities really do
the average player probably doesn't even know it happens or how to avoid it
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>>163432852
Not necessarily, since they come back with gifts too, meaning they didn't just get brined
Means either my pawn's shit or people are just terrible I suppose
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>>163433061
I assume most people just get through the menus as fast as possible. It's not that your pawn sucks, it's just that whoever hired it can't be bothered to change the default 3/3/3 rating.
>>
>>163433061
One of the problems is that when you realize the pawn you can't send negative comments to make clear what the problem was if there were a problem, that would help a lot. Honestly, devs are too scared of the trolls.
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>>163434419
*release
>>
can I play this game with mouse and keyboard?
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>>163435506
Controller is better.
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>>163435617
Dance mat is superior.
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>>163435705
My real life skull splitters on dance mat are beyond legendary.
>>
>>163435506
I've seen people use m+kb without complaints, but if you have a controller lying around to use instead, it's definitely preferable
>>
>>163435617
>>163435801
I have one but the cable is faulty and it causes the controller to disconnect occasionally.
>>
I've had no trouble playing with mouse and keyboard after a few rebinds.
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>>163435506
If a bow class - do that.
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>>163435770
>he doesnt play via motion capture with a VR headset
R u even trying?
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>>163437685
>vr Madeline motorboating
>vr Ayylinore brining
I want this now
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Man, fulmination really is a barrel of fun
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>>163438992
fuggg
life isn't fair
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If I wear a skill ring for downpour on assassin, will I be able to use that skill?

As much as I love speedy gonzales: the vocation, the assassin bow skills are kind of lame.
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>>163441324
No, it only upgrades existing skills.
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>>163441324
Nah, you can only use rings to upgrade skills that the vocation already has
While it would be cool concept to use other vocations' skills if you had the right ring and the right weapon, just the thought of having brain splitter on assassin or MA is upsetting
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>>163407373
elaborate
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naught but the finest wares
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>>163444925
Does she wear peasant gear or nun robes in the grigori cutscene?
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>>163444940
Those finest wares, man.
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>>163441324
>playing as assassin when strider exists
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>>163438992
>VR selene headpatting
>>
>Stagnant Surge has a chance to do 10x damage
>One shot a cyclops with Holy focused bolt
Balanced
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>>163445136
>not using gale harness with blast arrows and holy pact and becoming a holy explosion machine gun
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>>163445197
what is the chance though
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>>163445136
>playing as strider when assassin exists
>>
>took a break from BBI after encountering my first cursed drake and fighting it for half an hour
>continue, another cursed drake in the very next area

Fuck me.
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>>163446992
Strider has more fun abilities
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>find a cool ass looking ranger in rift
>great stats and fashion
>mitigator/medicant and only skill enabled is tenfold arrow
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>>163448568
Hunh, that's almost not terrible.

If it were a Strider that'd work, or Challenger instead of Mitigator for Ranger.

Medicant isn't my first choice for a secondary, but I've seen it work. Just load 'em up with Spring Waters or Balmy Perfumes and forget health bars exist for a while.
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>>163448568
>>163449098
Its for mushroom potage.
It also makes non healers react better to grapples like eliminator stomps or maneaters.
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>>163447963
Back kick is the single most fun ability in this game as long as you don't upgrade it. Clairvoyance and nothing personnel kill are also amazing. And don't forget about Powder Barrage.
Bow is lacking but Lyncean Sight is cool enough.
Strider just can't compete.
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>>163449759

Brain Splitter > any shitty assassin skill

Fracture Dart > any shitty assassin bow skill
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>>163449965
Brain Splitter is literal cancer.
I give you the bow though.
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>>163450153

>brainsplitter is cancer

no :)
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>>163435506
I played this with mouse and keyboard just fine, I never thought to myself once in 150 hours "I really wish I had a controller right now", so I don't get why people say a controller is better.

The only thing you would want to rebind is ctrl or alt which you hold down to activate your skills, which I put onto my extra mouse buttons.
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>>163450286
Yes, sweet anon.
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>>163450452

Ok.
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>>163450153
>Brain Splitter is literal cancer.
can you explain why?

Also just noticed thread past bump limit, I'll make a new one
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